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EPISODE 91 - Christian Gonzalex Extension soon. Gabe Jacas!
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:01
Speaker
All right, what's going on, guys? We're live. It is, what, June 16th, 830 at night. We're in the absolute dead zone here. Welcome to the Savage Boston Pod.
00:00:14
Speaker
I'm Scott with, I guess I'm going to say now, with SavageBoston.com. Here with our guys on from SavageBoston.com, affiliates here, our boys here. We got Joe from LFG Pat's Pod.
00:00:27
Speaker
And we got Bryson from the triumphant return of Title Talk.
Drake Silver Mention and Summer Activities
00:00:32
Speaker
uh, with our guy, Drake silver, uh, top report, our leading reporter. Um, I'm tri sure Drake will enjoy that. Drake silver, when he hears this. Um, anyway, thanks for coming on guys. I appreciate it. Um, are you guys doing? What's up? We'll throw to you guys. What's going on.
00:00:47
Speaker
I'm doing awesome. It's ah even though it's a little dead, you know, enjoying the summer, spending some time with the kids. My son's at soccer camp this week. My wife's actually in Florida. A lot going on. But um yeah, we're there there's still news to talk about. There's still things to talk about. And we're we're trying to get some events planned for for Pat's camp. So, yeah, I'm yeah i'm excited. a lot of stuff coming up.
00:01:10
Speaker
Nice. i'm I'm planning to be there in August when it's joint practice.
Joint Practice with Eagles
00:01:15
Speaker
Let's go. then The Eagles one? Yeah. All August 20th. August 20th. That's the event. That's going to be an insane practice. like That's going to be outrageous, though. The hype there. is It's going to be more than some games during the season. I'm not even fucking joking with you. like That practice is going to be outrageous.
00:01:35
Speaker
Yeah, um I really just hope that everything's okay. like Eagles fans appear to be very not rational to me, and so I really hope there's just not that many of them. And you know just stay out of everyone's way. I'm just i'm just there to have a good time. i don't want to like I don't want AJ Brown to be hexed in the middle of some practice, you know what mean?
00:01:55
Speaker
But as far as what I'm doing, that no one cares, but you know I really appreciate being on here with you guys. I hope my audio and my video is all right, but we've got some stuff planned here. okay I've been talking to some of you behind the scenes. We've got some stuff planned. This might be the dead zone, but I'm telling you, if you're listening to this, please, you're going to have to pay attention because we have some really big things that are coming on.
00:02:17
Speaker
It's going to be really fun, and Savage is going to be involved too, and maybe Joe too, and maybe um also Drake May. Yeah. Yeah, let's get it. Maybe Drake. Maybe Drake.
Robert Kraft's Lawsuit Against Foxborough
00:02:27
Speaker
Maybe Sean Booty is coming.
00:02:29
Speaker
Who knows? Yeah, man. Well, this is – it's kind of funny. So, like, I figured I'd throw this story out quick because it just broke – at least I tweeted about it like a half an hour ago. It was just completely random. I saw it. Just Robert Kraft is suing the town of Foxborough. Robert Kraft and New England Patriots are suing Foxborough for like a million bucks over, I don't know, over entertainment fees because the town is basically should be capping them at like a hundred bucks on some renewal fee. And instead they're trying to get a million from him. Did you guys read the story? Do you have any thoughts on this?
00:03:02
Speaker
Just broke. Yeah, I mean, it's it's I'm not surprised, right, that Taxachusetts is pretty much the mafia at this point, and they're trying to get their cut, right? They're trying to get their taste, and and Robert Kraft is not the guy to get it from, so I just i don't see it going well for them. hell i think he'd rather pay lawyers a million bucks than pay them.
00:03:25
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's it's such a random, i don't know, it feels just weird timing. I guess it's the dead zone, but did you see that story, Bryson? I thought you were going to say something about Kashawn Booty messaging me, so i was really excited. Yeah, you, yeah, that's the big news. He just ran right over me, and I was like, ah I'm not that important, actually. It's all right, it's fine, it's okay. Yeah, good old Booty, man. ah Well, I just thought it was weird. and i don't know, it just feels like You don't want to be suing the town that is hosting you for your stadium. And it's just bizarre. like It feels like bad juju, you know what mean? Like all around. I just don't like bad vibes, you know what I mean? Yeah, and paper waves here, especially with the World Cup going on. That's right. like I don't know. like How much money is Robert Kraft making off the World Cup?
00:04:08
Speaker
I'm sure he's doing quite well. um Still odd he had to rename the stadium. I didn't even, to Boston Stadium, not even going to go into that. Just found it strange.
Christian Gonzalez's Confidence and Role in the Team
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Speaker
um all right cool we'll we'll get off that because that story is no juice but but basically ah so let's talk about gonzo really quick um you know broke the other day from uh from our guy alex conti uh even got a shout out on the radio multiple times for breaking the news here he had it that christian gonzalez um bought a brand new massive house in uh in
00:04:42
Speaker
around the practice, I believe it's in Walpole. I don't really, it doesn't matter the town, but near the practice facility, this mansion. So, um you know, why don't you go, why don't you go first, Joe? What's that?
00:04:53
Speaker
What's that telling you about the Christian Gonzalez contract? If he's buying a huge, massive new home in Walpole? Yeah, i think he's signing with the Falcons soon. I think that's what saying. But no, yeah this is this is like long overdue. Everyone's excited. um i was saying before, like I got a few friends that were like, yeah, trade him. I don't care. And I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? like This guy is the cornerstone, the cornerstone of this team, this defense. Him and Milton Williams like together when they're on the field.
00:05:21
Speaker
you can so You can feel it when they're not in the field. Let's just put it that way. So, yeah, I'm jacked. i like like This is the season's offseason, but been nearly perfect. Outside of this linebacker situation, which I'm a little scared of, um there's not much they've done wrong.
00:05:38
Speaker
Yeah, what do you think about the ah the house buying, Bryson? That's awesome news, man. You know, for like five seconds, I was nervous because his trainer was posting stuff on X. Like his trainer was super mad. i don't know if you guys saw this, but he's he he was arguing with Patriots fans on X and talking about Gonzo needs to be paid and all this stuff. And which I i mean, I get it. You know, you're you're part of the circle. You're getting paid. Everyone wants to be paid. I totally I totally understand that. But that did have me a little bit scared. But I've been like.
00:06:07
Speaker
For years, it seems like years now, people have been like trade gonzo. It's super weird. What's up with that narrative? I've heard that. I've i've heard the same thing. I don't get it. lie it just because he plays cornerback? Like, I don't get what what's the deal. Like, I don't get the narrative. like and you want to You want me to be honest? it's Yeah, please. Because he's not like a Ty Lawl, Steph Gilmore guy.
00:06:28
Speaker
You can look at him and he – like, let's be honest. You look at him and he doesn't look like the toughest guy ever, right? He doesn't have that, like, swagger of toughest guy ever. my Massachusetts, Boston type of guy. Like, Gilmore always did, right? Didn't say much. Gonzo is the same way, but he's like – You would think, like, by looking at him, you would kind of underestimate him, but he's one of the best corners in the game. So I never really understood why people – and it's like he has these little – like, every NFL player has these things where they miss a game or two here. there he's missed He missed three games last year because of hamstring injury.
00:07:01
Speaker
Okay? He he had soldier ah shoulder surgery. Like, this is very routine. Other than that, he's been healthy for the majority of his career. So have no issue with the Patriots paying Christian Gonzalez. You know, when you're an NFL team,
00:07:14
Speaker
you You would want, you'd be like, oh, the Patriots aren't going to pay Christian Gonzalez. Let's get him over here now because he's freaking awesome. What are they whining about over there? You have an elite player. You know how long it takes Drake May, Milton Williams, like you just said, Christian Gonzalez, A.J. Brown.
00:07:30
Speaker
It takes forever to find one of those guys. Now you have like four or five legitimate ball blue chip players. You keep them all and you forget about it. Look at the Eagles Super Bowl team. Look at all these Super Bowl teams in the past. These are now rosters of blue chip players. And the Patriots are like slowly acquiring blue chip. You love to see that he's buying a house. And ah we want Kashawn Booty to buy a house right now, okay? Yeah.
00:07:54
Speaker
It's funny with with Gonzo, though. like It's true. The whole trade Gonzo thing is weird. like i don't You have a guy you drafted who's ah very young still, very elite in his position, shut down cornerback, premium position.
00:08:07
Speaker
Why wouldn't you want to pay him? Is it just people don't want to pay big money? Is it like you're scared of a max deal? like what's I don't and don't get what it is because he's an elite player. I understand like maybe you don't view him as – I don't know, like 20 whatever year, 2019, Stephon Gilmore won the, you know, defensive player the year or whatever. Maybe you don't think he's that level, but I mean, it was your best player on the field in the Super Bowl.
00:08:31
Speaker
um You know, guy balled out all playoffs. He was incredibly elite. And he was your standout player for the entire postseason, basically. So, I don't know i don't know who who we're talking about doesn't want to sign him, but I have heard the chatter.
00:08:46
Speaker
I think it's a little odd. with with With our guy, Booty, as we've said, you know, Bro, we talked about it. They've been've been shopping booty for a long time. i don't know. like a long time, dude. nobody i don't know if nobody wants him. Nobody wants to pay. Everyone wants him.
00:09:03
Speaker
You know what mean? Like, love you, booty. You're a guy. Best friends with Bryson. um I don't know. i don't know what the I don't know why nobody wants to take him out. No one wants to give a fifth. It's going to be like a pick swap. And is that worth it in the end? Like, why not why not just hold a player at that point if you're going to do just like a pick swap, right?
00:09:22
Speaker
um and then or anyone unless the room's just too crowded and you really feel the need to hold on to efton chisholm who again i hate even talking about until i know that he's going to be uh a better player not just a practice guy just like kind of this i'm rambling but just like braden swinson who everyone Everyone people are trying to hype up a guy who couldn't make the team last year. Like that's, that's weird to me.
00:09:44
Speaker
Just a little weird. I don't get those vibes. i said something about Swinson. People were like, what do you, what do you come after Swinson? But like, we're mad about it. It was just a lot. It's just odd to me. So any thoughts on that, Joe?
00:09:56
Speaker
ah Yeah, first of all, the Braden Swinson hype. I mean, this guy's he's on his last leg and it's only his second year. he's He's a fifth round pick. And, you know, he's got to show juice. At least he didn't show any juice. He didn't show anything last year at all. And I didn't see it in practice. I didn't see it in training. I didn't see it anywhere.
00:10:14
Speaker
i don't know if you guys remember seeing anything with Braden Swinson, but. Yeah, I think play wise, like you talking about like, yeah, just I mean, he didn't obviously he wasn't in games, but he didn't show it in the preseason. he didn't i mean He didn't show it anywhere. I didn't. I remember don't remember him making a single play.
00:10:29
Speaker
He was out of shape. du He didn't even look like an edge like he was didn't. His body type was kind of weird. He was not. He wasn't in great shape coming in last year, which I thought was odd. Yeah, yeah. And I think Kayshawn Booty, I think, is obviously he's a stud. He's in Bryson's DMs. But when it comes down to it, he is replacement-level player. He is. I think he is.
00:10:52
Speaker
um And I think that when it comes down to it, if we can get – I mean, I think there's enough teams out there that we can get a fourth for him. Maybe it's a pick swap, right? Maybe it's a fourth and we give him a sixth or something. For Booty? For Booty,
00:11:05
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Right. I think if you could get a fourth for Booty, in all seriousness, he would have been gone in like three seconds. Like, I don't think it's i don't think it's even... We'll see. it might it might not it might not It might not materialize right now. It might be an injury in camp. It might be at the trade deadline. Who knows, right? Who knows how that how that ends up shaking out. But um between him and Pop Douglas, like, they're both on...
00:11:24
Speaker
on um on notice i think you know pop douglas is uh he's an interesting player because he started out as a slot and you know he's a high catch low low um low average depth of target with a lot of yak then they turn him into a um you know high a dot um low catch guy. So he's like 14 yards per reception. And, you know, they really changes his role. It's kind of like he they they got him playing the Kyle Williams role. And so you got these guys that are um just really not
00:11:59
Speaker
you know we have We have other guys that can play the position that they're playing, and Pop Douglas can't block. So, yeah, it's it's some of these guys are in interesting spots, but the good news is, is unlike last year, we have A.J. Brown and Romeo Dobbs um and Kyle Williams. We have Matt Collins. like We have a core of
Training Camp Excitement and Player Competition
00:12:19
Speaker
guys that are just like studs. So I feel good about this. We don't have to really hem and haw about the fifth and sixth receiver at this point or the fourth, fifth, and sixth, however you want to slot it.
00:12:28
Speaker
and I do think Efton Chisholm does have a potential role, but that's he's got an uphill battle because there's now this now we have dogs. We have like actual receivers. Yeah. um Comment here from from our guy, Drake Silver, again. But i actually like I actually like the comment, which is you know obviously – Being funny, you know, Elijah Ponder is going to own. So here's the thing.
00:12:51
Speaker
Like being serious again, going serious mode. I don't really – this narrative is coming from somewhere. Like what's up with the what's up with the narrative now that Elijah Ponder is some like under the radar stud who's going to step into the edge role? Like i'm ah I'm not just going to – I'll throw it to you in a second, Bryson, about this. but Like, I saw a Bedard clip today. I just clipped it because I thought it was really, again, just odd.
00:13:14
Speaker
So Bedard comes out and he shares. He's like, Akis isn't going be very far behind with missing time because, like, you know. He wasn't going to do anything anyway this season. People really expected him to be a good player. And I thought that was really fucking weird. You drafted, you traded up for a guy in the second round.
00:13:32
Speaker
Yeah, he should have an impact. Your expectation is a second round pick should have an impact on your football team. That should be your expectation. i don't I think that's really fucking weird to come out and say like your second round 50, 55 overall draft pick. Like it would be foolish to think he can impact your football team in a way. Like I thought that was really, really fucking weird. So I don't know. Bryson, what do you what do you think about the ah the i don't know if you saw the Bedard clip or the Elijah Ponder stuff?
00:14:00
Speaker
Man, I get no layups today. man you know i've got a jovanon Joe and I on LFGPod nailed the Kashawn Booty story so much that Kashawn Booty tells me so in the DMs, and here I am talking about Dakis. I'll talk about it. file I'll skip over Booty. We'll talk about it, I guess, again. But look, I like Seth Main's tweet. okay I said this on my podcast where he was like, and I think around these parts, we really do get this stuff right.
00:14:27
Speaker
And that's why, because Sean Booty even said so. But the ACCA stuff, I think it's very simple. He has had an elective surgery, okay? Savage knows what that means. It means he did not have to have this surgery. Most of these surgeries that guys get in sports that are elective surgeries, they they can wait. They don't have to have them right now. you don't have to have your knee scoped right now, okay? you Most of these guys wait until after the season, you know, into the way into before the summertime.
Elective Surgeries and Player Health
00:14:53
Speaker
So he's decided to do that. So my guess for Ackes is that something is going on contract-wise, And he was like, okay, fine. I'm just going to have a surgery. I don't care what happens. I'm not showing up. I'm having a surgery. Deal with that. Let's come back to the table later. This is exactly what's going on with him, by the way. So when you see, like he it's not like they didn't know. This is an elective. so Almost any NFL player could have an elective surgery at any time for anything. yeah All of us right here, you know we're not 20 anymore, all of us. I hate to tell you guys this, but all of us could go into a doctor right now and be like, I want to get my knee scoped and that would probably have, it'd be just fine because all of us are going to show that stuff for a knee scope. This is what he's done. He's chosen to do this guys. Let's not forget about that. Okay. I don't like that at all, by the way, that's not good.
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, i think, I mean, well, a from a, Physical perspective. Yeah. Most people want to especially once you get in your 30s on if you really want to analyze or look at a joint, you can have a procedure done at that joint. So that's actually accurate. You know, most people look a little too hard instead of doing conservative measures. I don't need to get into like PT talk. But basically, yes, anyone can have I don't know. i didn't I'm not sure what the deal is with the surgery. All we know now, Reese Reese is the only dude really tapped in on this. No other reporter had it. You know, good. Good for Mike Reese. finding out again, he had an elective knee procedure. or I don't know if elective was used, but he had a knee procedure.
00:16:23
Speaker
And, um and just yeah kind of that what they said is, I don't know if he said, i don't know he said elective, I didn't get the exact detail. All I know is that he he had a procedure and either Mike was kind of like,
00:16:37
Speaker
didn't confirm it in the article, but he said potentially the team was unaware that he had a procedure or he didn't tell the team before the draft, like something fucking weird happened or the team told him don't get it. And he did anyway. There's some wiggle room for like something he did wrong, but obviously he did something wrong that the team didn't like by having an elective procedure they didn't agree with or by not telling them he had a new procedure on his knee. One of the other happened.
00:17:06
Speaker
um either which feel kind of stupid so now they're not guaranteeing his his money to like be in there and be practicing and the team wants some extra protection
Elijah Ponder's Potential
00:17:16
Speaker
because they don't know how his knee is going to turn out it just is kind of a genuinely an actual an actual mess um you know it's it's weird so i like the player but the situation has been a mess so um how do you feel on that stuff joe Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where I think in a few weeks, if we're still talking about it, then it's a problem. But I do think in a few weeks, this will be figured out. We'll see more clips of him, you know, working out. And when it comes down to it, the the procedure is is obviously minimal. Just look at some of the workout tape. But in a few weeks and then we get into camp, if he's there.
00:17:56
Speaker
that that's when, uh, you know, everything just kind of goes away if he's not, and there's still problems. He's not signed to a contract, right? This is when it kind of bubbles up, but for now I'd say it's a dead season. I'm okay with it.
00:18:06
Speaker
Um, Elijah Ponder though, I do think he, you know, he flashed quite a bit last year, but it takes a lot more than just flashing. Right. I mean we've seen key on white flash. We've seen these guys in the past flash. And if you got to be able to put it together more than just flashing. So he'll get, he'll get reps. be, he'll be ah a situational guy who will, uh,
00:18:25
Speaker
coming on third down at times to spell some people and he'll get a shot, but um he has to be more consistent. He has to be, you know, he has help his game. And just like everybody else, it's not an easy league to to be successful. And so anyone that's predicting like this massive breakout for Elijah Ponder, I mean, he's got an uphill battle. It's not going to be easy, but I do like his, ah he made some plays for sure. He put some pressures on, he got some sacks. So I do like him. I think I like him as a prospect, but you know, UDFAs,
00:18:54
Speaker
Second year, it's it's it's it's ah it's a big ask to say he's going to break out. We got a comment from someone I've never seen before. Brett Denley.
00:19:05
Speaker
i don't know if this is a Bryson bryson guy. um I like the player. Savage, you haven't seen a stat from Akis. Stop lying. Yeah, he's a rookie.
00:19:16
Speaker
Am I so how I don't know. Like, you mean college snaps? Like, am I not allowed to like a college player? i don't understand. like a weird, i don't get it. Like, I'm not allowed to like a second round pick from college. Like I like the player. I like his build. I think he can be a good three down edge, really strong guy. He repped 225, 30 times on the edge. Like he's a, he's a tough guy.
00:19:37
Speaker
I like his strength. I'm excited to see him on the field. Here's the problem. He's not on the fucking field. He didn't sign his fucking contract. He's getting knee scopes. So get on the fucking field and then we can talk about if you look good. And I'm happy to do that.
00:19:51
Speaker
Brett Denley, whoever you are. Thank you. nice sorry else go Savage in July or August, whenever the next big thing at defensive end is absolutely crushing our very own Will Campbell all summer long. And they're the next, you know, the next. Then we can really pivot the dialogue. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Atkins is actually going to be really good guys because he's dominating Will Campbell practice on one knee. All right. I can just, I can hear it from here. Yeah, that's going to be – that dialogue will be something. Imagine the – I mean, hey, who was it last year that was blowing up Will Campbell? It's Keon White. He's a very elite player. He had a very elite season. I mean, he really – he's one of the best defensive ends ever. But, yeah. But this year we're Will Campbell stands, so we're not going to allow that to happen. We're going to shift the narrative this year, okay? We're going to be like, no, that –
00:20:44
Speaker
Will Campbell, he's awesome. So i' I'm totally ready to reset. I was just thinking, you know, this summer, who's the next defensive end? Like Akis, Ponder, all these guys that have one sack against Will Campbell in the summertime every single day. And we're like, yeah, he's going to have 20 snaps and he's absolutely terrible.
00:21:01
Speaker
I mean, isn't that why camp's the best like like that? Like you can overreact to anything. That's what's fun about camp. You see one rep and you're like, oh, fuck. Like it gives you opportunity to see the guys in practice and and And honestly, with Will Campbell, man, like,
00:21:15
Speaker
It's better. People should be Campbell stands in some way. Like who's that one Twitter guy, you know, that's always going off about loving Will Campbell. There's one guy we interact with. Seth Mayne. Yeah, Seth Mayne. Defended Will Campbell. I think every day in my mentions. Like there's not a day goes by without Seth talking about how much he loves Will Campbell.
00:21:34
Speaker
But like in reality, you should root for Will Campbell because if it fails, your team's in a worse position again. That's why we're stands. Like, we should – you literally should be You should want him to succeed. and he sucks so bad that he has to move – like, you have to move him to guard, the team is another fucking problem.
00:21:56
Speaker
I mean, yo know how many games does Morgan Moses play this year? Eight? We got lucky last year. We got lucky last year with how many he played. That's for sure. We know that.
00:22:07
Speaker
I mean, seriously. I don't i mean, yeah, I don't know. He's been remarkably healthy, but I don't know how many games he actually, you know, how many games he actually plays this year. And Lomu is going to get hopefully a good amount of time. Love Lomu. Goatmu. Goatmu is going to defeat Morgan Moses. He's out there. He's trying to coach Goatmu just to get away from him, okay? Goatmu doesn't need you, Morgan mo Moses. He doesn't need you, all right? He's the best. He's the best dancer. Like I said, zero games. Lomu is going to come out there and dominate. And you notice, guys,
00:22:38
Speaker
he's playing backups guard out there. Lomo is no one. No one says anything about this. He just is like, yeah, sure. I'll play guard to you. That's fine. Oh, yeah, I'll play this. I'll play saw that i'll play right now. Just 100 percent. in the better Meanwhile, you know, where's Will Campbell stands? But last year, Will Campbell is definitely crying the blues if you're making them play guard. Right. Am I wrong about this?
00:23:01
Speaker
I think it's funny. like yeah ah well the the engagement would be berserk if Will Campbell got reps and guards. But Goatmoo does it. It's fine. He's just you know one of those awesome players. He wasn't drafted fourth overall. He wasn't drafted fourth overall. It's a big difference. Yeah, but still first-round guy. But like in all seriousness, I think that tells you something about Lomu just in such a positive way.
Lomu's Adaptability
00:23:23
Speaker
Lomu's like, fuck it. i don't give a fuck.
00:23:25
Speaker
Right tackle, left tackle, guard. Don't give a fuck. Put him in there. Who dances better, though? Who dances better? Bryson, Drake, Silver, or Lomo? I want to hear it. That's a hard-hitting question.
00:23:37
Speaker
I don't dance, bro, but Goatmoo, he is the GOAT. Dude, I want this year to be awesome with Will Campbell and Goatmoo lining up out there. I think that would be the like the best of all time. You've the Dancing King. You've got the Why So Serious guy on the other side. I'm i'm i'm standing on everyone here, okay? We're standing all these tackles. i don't care. I know we we just had a debate on pat's LFG Pats podcast about how Will Campbell should play guard. I'm over it now, okay?
00:24:04
Speaker
Now we I'm saying Will Campbell should be an all-pro guard, or excuse me, an all-pro tackle. And then Goatmood is going to play everything, but he's going to play right tackle, so. i'm I'm all in, guys. I'm really actually excited about good move. And something that one of my friends, Jeff Matt, was telling me, he he was an offensive lineman. He played offensive lineman. He was pretty good. And he was like, watch. He's going to play backup guard in camp. Just watch. If he's good, he'll play backup guard.
00:24:31
Speaker
and he And lo and behold, he is. And no one says anything. Oh, it's not too hard, whatever. He just does it I love that, man. I think that's awesome. By the way, did you guys see him catch the balloon today? I did see that. Savage, did you see that? I saw part of that video.
00:24:49
Speaker
no like What was it? Only Pop Douglas caught it? right some bob douglas didn't get brown yeah AJ Brown caught got it. yeah And Look, blue chip that's our boy right there that's our king He's he's a legend. He's already a legend. I think. yeah man, I think I'm excited for I'm excited to see him get out there. I'm going to hold on. Let me mute the chat here. Not mute. I'm going to take it off this thing. People are getting a little spicy in the chat.
00:25:18
Speaker
That's that's the that's the only only danger of the live stream here. Hey, let's keep it PG in the chat. All right. Let's so only stand good move in the chat. What are we doing here? Stand booty.
00:25:29
Speaker
Stan Goatmoo. I don't know what – I can't even the chat because don't care. You're irrelevant. But Stan Goatmoo, okay? Well, yeah, good stuff. Well, I heard earlier this week after the d Gonzo stuff at the house came out, kind of like, you know, thinking that contract is pretty close.
Christian Gonzalez's Contract and Draft Evaluation
00:25:47
Speaker
You know, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I was – I hope it's something that comes out soon because that'd be – it's a nice quiet period. It'd be a great time to – have a contract announcement. um And I, you know, I hope they don't wait until closer to training camp, but it will be a great, great time for it. So um you guys think he sets the market with like 30, 32, 31, 32, something like that a v What do you guys think?
00:26:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's going be somewhere people are saying, oh, he's going to get 35. It's like, no, it's going to be slightly above what the highest contract is. That's what everyone does. ah Whether they go incentive laden, maybe a little bit more, but that's really the only factor. It's going to be at 32, 33 million, something like that.
00:26:34
Speaker
um but yeah i'm excited the guy's 23 years old guys like this is it's absolutely insane like we have the we have the perfect window for this player that i was dying laughing when we got him and it was at 19 17 or 19 forget where we got him um but the the kid from um what was it the commander's uh forbes got picked before him and i was oh my god roll on the floor Yeah, rolling on the floor laughing. The guy's like a a legal midget and like weighs 100 pounds. and they and he I don't even know where he is anymore. it Was he on the Panthers? is He was on the Rams, wasn't he? Rams, yeah. He was an okay player with the Rams for like a second. We got so lucky with that him falling to us. Yeah, yeah I mean, they –
00:27:20
Speaker
You know, that was, um I'll give, i don't know how much credit we can talk about. we don't have to go full deep dive drafting with, with, you know, Belichick or whatever, but like, especially towards the end of his career.
00:27:31
Speaker
um But that was a nice gift. It was nice certainly a nice, a nice little with a bow on it, Christian Gonzalez before he bowed out. because obviously, you know, phenomenal player and he's been good since day one. i I can't, I think he only fell because of the reasons we've been talking about. People look at him, they're like, oh, he's kind of, he's kind of not tough. He's he's not physical enough. Like they love Witherspoon.
00:27:55
Speaker
on seattle right because they're like who i figured he had drafted you know little higher than gonzo i forget where but uh but yeah basically they're like you just view him as a little more physical but gonzo's been an excellent player i don't know again where people get this weird talk that he's gonna get like 35 milli or higher i think that's odd to just like compare to other positions but you give him a nice 32 a year and let him set the market and then witherspoon will come out and set it, probably set the bar a tiny bit higher than Gonzo. He'll probably get the tiny bit more money.
00:28:26
Speaker
Um, however they worked out out at their agency, but, but yeah, man, I think I'm hoping to break soon. Cause like you said, it's, it's, we got, it was training camps on July 25th. So this is kind of, uh,
00:28:39
Speaker
We got well six weeks, six, five, six weeks, and then we'll get some actual shit going on. But this is this is when the hay. What's the phrase? The hay is made. The give me give me the phrase. The hay is in the barn. The hay in the barn, baby. Yeah, b yeah man. So, I mean, it's ah yeah. No, it is what it is. But is there anything specific you guys are excited to see in training a camp? Anything you guys, you know, are looking really looking forward to?
00:29:09
Speaker
Um, actually, yeah, you know, I've talked about this. I said, I hate to say this all the time because Joe and I are on multiple podcasts together, but we've, we've talked about the human element of this Patriots team and just how much it means it's going to mean to them that AJ Brown is there pumping everyone up. And the players have already said, you know, we tell, we can tell they believe in us to win this year because we're trading for AJ Brown. Right. But that's only on the offense, right? The thing that needs to be repeated, remember last year, how amazing it was, the defense? Remember that Giants game? You had people on the timeline complaining about hits in big 2025-26, right?
00:29:51
Speaker
I've never seen anything like that. I lived through the Brandon Spikes day, the days before. it was I've never seen anything like that. And I did worry, like, it's very hard to bottle that and use it again.
00:30:05
Speaker
In the NFL, it's almost impossible to replicate a defense year to year because of injuries and just the randomness of everything else. Schedule, yada, yada. This is a good defense. They've got legitimate blue chippers. They've legitimately figured it out. And I'm looking forward to in camp.
00:30:22
Speaker
Actually, remember when Gilmore and Edelman fought? You remember that? i'm um I'm actually really looking forward to that. I want to see like, I want to see Drake May yelling at Christian Gonzalez and AJ Brown fighting with Christian Gonzalez. I'm ready for all of this stuff because I think this camp, I think that's going to happen again, this camp. And then we'll go into joints and we'll all say, man, thank goodness they aren't practicing with each other anymore because they're sick of the of beating each other up, which is actually pretty awesome ah to be intense all summer long. I'm really excited for that, guys. i don't know about Yeah.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yeah, I have to admit, it's it's um the the amount of blue chip talent on both sides of the football. It's just going to elevate everybody, guys. Like, I don't think people realize, like, the power of A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs. And then you have second year guys like Trevion Henderson, Kyle Williams. I mean, they're all going to benefit, right? all this All this attention that these guys are getting.
00:31:17
Speaker
um this This offensive line, I remember saying last year, like, all we have to do is take an incremental step up and we're going to be ah a lot better, a lot better from an offensive line standpoint. Well, now we've taken ah ah a huge step up. If if ah Elijah Veritaker can stay healthy and pan out um like we've seen him do in the past, and you know we have Richie Gilliam, who we were talking about in the ah Foxboro Fellows last night, the Bills, James Cook, right? The reason James Cook is so good is because of the blocking tight ends and because Richie Gilliam. And James Cook average yards before contact was three yards.
00:31:58
Speaker
So imagine Trevion Henderson not getting touched for three yards. What's he going to do now? Granted, his vision has been a problem, but between him and Ramondre, our running game is going to be absolutely stellar.
00:32:11
Speaker
And then if you think, you know, you got you got Vrabel telling the guys, oh, we want to reinvent the team. We want to run more bootlegs, whatever that ends up meaning. Like give me a, give me a ah double, a dual threat quarterback that maybe you get them out on boots more. Give me, uh, an outside zone running scheme for Trevion and, and Ramondre, and then give me AJ Brown, who you have to double now. And, and now you get to open up guys like Kyle Williams. You get to open up guys like, um, you know, Hunter Henry's going to get opened up more, right? You're going to have to single some of these guys.
00:32:43
Speaker
Um, so I, I'm, I'm ecstatic to see this team and I'm, I'm really circling that, um, the Eagles practice because I think it's just going to be absolutely stellar competition. You got an ex players, ex, you know, ex coaches, but essentially you got Milton Williams and AJ Brown going to be going up against their old team. um I think it's going to be electric. I can't wait.
00:33:04
Speaker
It's great point. um Let me ask you this question. Who is your most likely pair to fight in training camp? Number one, most likely who fights?
00:33:17
Speaker
On the Patriots. and i can see On the Patriots. Okay, on the Patriots. It's got to be Ackes and Will Campbell, right? It has to be Ackes and Will Campbell. Can you imagine that? Imagine those clips.
00:33:28
Speaker
I mean, it has to be Ackes and Will Campbell. Goat Moo and and Milton Williams. I don't know. I i see Goat Moo. I see him being like, a i don't want any part of this kind of guy, even though i love him a lot, right? who else the Who else would you think if that would be like just beat? Because it's got to be Carlton DeNavis, right?
00:33:47
Speaker
I actually was going to say hey died Brown and Carlton Davis. That was going to be my – I can see that. Just A.J. and Carlton Davis. Just like – That would be sick. All summer long now we're going to hear, see, A.J. Brown is – look, he is bad for the team. Look at him fighting Carlton Davis. But it's going to be awesome, and we're going like, yeah, that's right. A.J. Brown is a team captain. and He's owning right now.
00:34:08
Speaker
That's what I'm going to say. I like this coming ahead by paper waves. Henderson and OBAs are very random and I like it a lot. um lot OBAs are, I don't even know what, what is he just going to be a gunner? Is that as what he's going to end up being special teamers? He's the a guy that people actually think are going to contribute at off ball linebacker. Like I have no idea. Like that's, you were talking about not knowing a player. I have no idea what kind of player OBAs or is going to be in the pro level.
00:34:34
Speaker
Seems like a special teamer, but yeah, it it seems like it's a it's one of these guys that they just really liked his tape and they see his potential, but he'll probably start a special teams and maybe he'll get some snaps. But they're big on Momu. They're big on some of these guys that they brought in, but I'm not big on any of them. I think it's just Christian Ellis and and Spillane. Right. It's just don't know.
00:34:56
Speaker
Yeah. Do you like, though, like, i um I like, other than the contract shit with the Akis, obviously, I like their top three picks, and then it's like a black hole, kind of, but I like the top three, and I'm excited about Eli Raritan. Like, I want to see what he's got, man, but, like, like we got to see something from Raritan. Like, he's got to put on a little muscle, and I think the Paps are going end up signing another they're like Will Disley or something or like, what's like Pharaoh Brown, right? They're going to bring back like ah another blocking tight end probably. And then try to like groom Raritan, but I'm hoping Raritan can contribute too. Like, I don't, I don't like, why can't Raritan get 500 yards receiving this year?
00:35:31
Speaker
Like, is there any reason why he can't be involved somehow in the packs passing game? You know? well I think you're totally right, man. It's like, you You guys were just talking about Demaria Douglas, about how his, you does per target, his ADOT, increased wickedly. It's like a lot of that is because of Drake May. So a lot of all these guys are getting a Drake May bump. You know, and as we talked about, Drake May is one of the best deep ball throwers in the entire NFL. He's going to be healthy this year. That is also going to stretch the defenders. It's going to open up the middle of the field in the run game. So I think guys like Raradon,
00:36:04
Speaker
which i like I am over here, and I know Savage totally with me, and we are on an island. Maybe Joe's with us. Maybe he's like wishing we would go away. i am I am so hungry for Hunter Henry to absolutely just – Get out of here. Okay.
00:36:20
Speaker
I want to see – I want to see – I was calling for this. for I'm on the same island. I'm with you. Okay. I want to see Raradon just – and I'm like Savage. If he can just fit in those middle pieces in the middle of the field. Last year – you guys have to be reminded of this every single podcast we did. Last year when I'm like grading Drake Mather, it's almost all of the bad passes or interceptable passes are 200 Henry. They're just not – They're not on the same page, and sometimes they are, but it it appears like they're not and a lot of times. Both of them, Hooper and him, too. Both them were. Exactly. It happened in the Super Bowl. It happened in the playoffs. i I would love nothing more. All you need to have for a tight end, everyone knows this, he doesn't need to be the fastest. He doesn't need to be the biggest. He just simply needs to know how to fit in the zone. If he can do that, he's going to get a lot of yards. it's It's very simple in the Drake May offense. You're spreading the field with guys like Kyle Williams, A.J. Brown, And then you're shortening it also with your run game. So the middle of the field is going to be wide open a lot of the time. So there's going be plenty of opportunities for these guys. And Lord help me, we want to see Raradong.
00:37:24
Speaker
And some people are calling him Raradong. I'm not going to do that because that's inappropriate. okay that's it That's not right. Don't laugh. That's not funny. okay But I want to see him own. I'm actually really excited. Drake Silver reminded me of this, and it made me really feel bad. He was like, dude, I remember you back in 2018 or whatever year was talking about Matt Lacoste. Could you just shut up? Every year, Patriots fans are like, yeah, look at this ah Nate Sudfield, all these tight ends that we all try to love over the years. right We're all guilty of it, but I love him.
00:37:54
Speaker
No, i i think that I think that's dead on, you know, the tight end thing. Everyone's always looking for the next Gronk at this point. It's been, you know, like everyone. Everyone wants everyone we ever see to be Gronk, which first of all, I think number one, you have to realize at some point that like you just got like one of one, dude, like with Gronk. Like yeah being real, like you just – he's one of one. I mean, Kelsey is an incredible pass-catching tight end.
00:38:20
Speaker
he's still a very different player than Gronk was. Like you got the prototypical best wide tight end in NFL history. Literally, he's one of the, probably the most impressive player I've ever seen in my life in person. Like just from size, reach, blocking, literally everything he did was incredible. He was born in a football lab, man. So I loved, I loved Gronk. I don't expect fucking Raritan to beat Gronk obviously, but like he weighs, I don't know what he weighs now, like six, he's like what? Six, six, two 45, a draft or something like that. Right.
00:38:50
Speaker
big boy he needs to be like 260 like he needs to get some more beef so he can block more and then yeah you're right though can he can he sit in his own can he read the defense can he run up the seam can he do those option routes that mcdaniels was made gronk famous for run brady to gronk up the seam like you can see it in your dreams dude every every every night you see brady to gronk up the seam so you know if they can yeah i hope to interrupt you but I don't think you're misremembering something or maybe not remembering. Oh, sure.
00:39:21
Speaker
What did Josh McDaniel say like just last week?
00:39:27
Speaker
rare at dinner About or about A.J. Brown reminding him of Gronk? where And remember, the thing about Gronk was he was, like you just said, he was so dominant up the scene.
00:39:40
Speaker
Virtually impossible to guard up the team, but they only really were using it, especially in the end of his career, rarely because he was always getting hurt. yeah People were going after his knees.
00:39:51
Speaker
Now you have A.J. Brown. The game's a little bit different, right? I'm really interested to see that and how they use A.J. Brown because that's not a mistake. He's not just saying like he's Gronk because he's huge. He's not 6'6", but he what he's saying is he's big. We're going to use him like Gronk in this slot off ball type of role, which would be awesome. so maybe, maybe you know, I like that.
00:40:15
Speaker
yeah I just learned something about Eli Raritan. So he is, yeah, about 20 pounds shy of Gronk. Same height, 6'6". Wingspan, he's about three inches less wingspan, but his hands are identical.
00:40:28
Speaker
Ten inch, three-fourths inch hands. So he's got massive hands. yes I mean, yeah, to say that he could be Gronk, it's it's like hyperbolic. But it could be better. Yeah.
00:40:41
Speaker
But um i I do think that he has a high ceiling and I do think that he was underutilized in that ah offense. And this is where, you know, you're looking at him and you're looking at Hunter Henry and i his ceiling is higher than Hunter Henry for sure. Hunter Henry's always been ah a savvy vet. He's always been a great player.
00:41:00
Speaker
but he's not, you know, he's not the caliber of, you know, someone like, uh, really anybody like Gronk or anybody in in that category of just monstrous, big dominating physical guys. He's not, he's not that. So just think about why, think about why, like,
00:41:17
Speaker
um you know, what made Gronk so special or what makes, what makes, again, I'll bring it to the guy that I'm quote unquote, not a fan of, right. What makes Kelsey so special as a receiving tight end over so long. Right. And it's not just his relationship with, with my homes, which obviously they know exactly, but Kelsey is one of the most difficult people to cover ever somehow with how he uses leverage, how he sits in zones, how he reads defenses. Like, You can look at his stats. The guy has been a savant pass catcher for a very, very long time. And now his body's starting to go, so he's he's not going to be the same guy, right? But, like, Raritan, I don't know if he builds that relationship with Drake, and I know get ahead of ourselves, but you just you just want to see flashes, man. Like, if you see a couple flashes with Drake, they build that relationship. Like, i don't know, you need a good tight end. and And Hunter Henry, it's ironic. We all kind of agree on this. Usually you have someone disagree, but we all agree, like –
00:42:11
Speaker
I don't mind Hunter Henry. I just think you, first of all, you you can upgrade at the position. And I brought up the contract situation where if you really needed to, you could so cut Hunter Henry and save money. If somehow Raritan grows into that role, but at this point you're so shallow in the tight end room, that's just not going to happen.
00:42:28
Speaker
So I expect Henry to play out the year and Raritan to hopefully learn behind him, but this is probably Henry's last year on the Patriots. He's his last year of a contract. I don't know what happens to him after this. He's probably aware of this. And I hope he kind of brings up Raritan and then maybe we see Raritan surpass him at some point. Like that would be, that would be the goal, right? Like late in the season, Raritan's tight end one rep, something like that.
00:42:53
Speaker
Imagine, imagine, any language imagine if he's good, man. Like seriously, imagine y'all I'm just, when I'm doing my predictions in my head, Like, none of us are really even thinking that Raridon is good. Imagine if he's simply like a B-C plus player and he's actually legit.
00:43:09
Speaker
That is insane. And Savage, you like, you have the connections. I know that you talked to Drake May and his family. Why don't you just get Raridon over there for Ann May's nights where she's making cookies and stuff? yeah yeah They can just straight up have a feast and he can gain weight. You could facilitate all of this. What are you hesitating for? Actually, if this doesn't happen, I'm going be mad at you, to be honest with you. I made the connection.
00:43:31
Speaker
he needs He legit needs to gain weight though. Like being dead serious. Like he actually, he does. He's like bake him some cookies. Like 245, you know, he needs to get, he needs to get bigger, but they said he's, he likes blocking. He's a physical player. So, which is good. That's good though.
00:43:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, oh, Bryson. So what did it talk about? What, did what did you have in mind for doing this, this summer in this dead period? Do you want to give any thoughts away? What you wanted to maybe throw down?
00:43:58
Speaker
you have an idea? Well, we've listen, i I love you all, okay? Everyone does their own thing. But I'm like, I don't consume, other than you guys, I don't really consume much Patriots-related content.
00:44:14
Speaker
And a lot of that is really because I like having my own stuff. And we're friends. I don't mind consuming your stuff. But, like, the Quicksilence Everyday podcast, the 98.5 Everyday, no offense to those guys. I'm friends with those guys. just don't.
00:44:26
Speaker
I like having my own stuff. So, you know, I'm thinking here. I'm like, you know, something's got to be different. You know, we're tired of talking about Akis. We're tired of talking about all this stuff. It's fun. But like you said, it's the dead season. So we've got a plan. And we did this, Alonzo and I, we did like top Patriots games since such and such date. And and we're going to release like a five to ten series podcast. So you can just binge all summer long, one week at a time or all in one day, whatever you want to do. If you want to eat all the Oreos in one day, I really don't care. We'll have, you know, maybe we'll have Joe and his buddies on the podcast. Maybe we'll have Savage. Maybe we'll have Fitzy. Maybe we'll have Jerry Thorne. Maybe we'll have Kashawn Pudi. We're going to have people that, you know, on these podcasts going through our favorite moments from the Patriots.
00:45:11
Speaker
OK, so it's going to be a lot, but I promise you're going to love it. there's gonna be I'm going to make a lot of stuff for people because I just, like I said, I don't like every week. I'm like, okay, we're doing podcasts. What do we talk about this week? It's like Akis is just like this tweet. It's like, gosh, I would rather not do a podcast than do that. so Let's actually create something here. so We're going to rehash it.
00:45:37
Speaker
You're all going to love it. We'll all talk about it and I'll let you know when it's going down. okay And then we'll we'll all be a part of something that's absolutely incredible. And and everyone's going to love it and it's going to be there for years on end. okay Joe's going to be there. Travis is going to be there. Drake May is going to be there.
00:45:52
Speaker
So i I hope that you guys come and you do this with me and you love it. Yeah, man. im dones get um I'm always down to help out. and i don i like i like getting – appreciate when people are still at it in the offseason, to be honest. like I like when people are are into it, grinding it, you know because this whole offseason, man, this is when – this when you you tough it out, especially if you're someone online trying to create content and, and you'll be engaging and stuff like this is, there's not much happening, in man. Like this is really, you know, I think it's overwhelming, honestly, like how much stuff starts coming out once training camp hits and like the season, obviously there's so much more happening with football. So, but yeah, man, this is a, it's cool. Hopefully people keep, keep the exciting stuff coming. Joe, you got anything cool going on? Anything interesting?
00:46:40
Speaker
ah As far as the off-season, yeah, I'm trying to plan the ah the event that's coming up. So I'm talking to all the the different restaurants and bars at Gillette to try to get us a space. and'm Trying to get some ah some swag going with Fanatics through Babs.
00:46:57
Speaker
You've got to get let us know when that all goes down, too. so Yeah, yeah. I'm i talking to my guys at Impact. who I'm um seeing if we can get like a table table. you know, like a table cover made with all of our logos. So I'm trying to trying to get like a good, ah a solid event going and something we could do every year. I think it would be awesome to do ah for the joint practices, do like a kind of Megapod with all the, all the different social media personalities. So yeah, Bryson, if you're going to be here for the Eagles, Eagles joint practice, definitely divisions flying in.
00:47:30
Speaker
um yeah we're going to have quite the crew. So, sounds beast mode. Babs, you, Savage will be there. you know and so There's a lot of good guys, man. So I'll i'll be happy to he be happy to hang out with you guys and pod because you know the summer is what separates, to me, always the people who know ball and the people who do not know ball.
00:47:51
Speaker
And, you know, my friends, they know ball, all right? Listen, in the training camp in the summertime, you guys are going to, like, you're going to be bombarded with the worst forms of propaganda you have ever seen. Like, Robert said earlier, like, um my favorite player is going to catch a pass that, like, okay, I love Kashawn Booty. We're best friends, right? and But, listen, he he's catching a pass on air with one hand, and everyone's like, man, he looks he just looks so good. with you I know. And it's like, OK, yeah, let's let's calm down a little bit. But when we're at camp, it's really scouts are the lowest paid play um coaches or staff on the team.
00:48:28
Speaker
It's the lowest tier of job. It's the easiest. I promise you, if all of us go into a basketball gym, if all of us go into a little league or, you know, whatever and watch instantly, we know who's good and who's not good. You do the same thing for the NFL. It's not that complicated. Trust me. So when we go and we watch these players in drills instantly, we're going be like boom, rare Dawn's awesome. Boom. all This might not be good at all. Or boom, Drake and may and AJ Brown are connecting. It's going to be amazing. So um that's what you should be excited for. If you're a fan, if you're a fan, you've got to listen to the right people.
00:49:01
Speaker
like us, okay? Because we're all friends. We're smarter than everyone, okay? not can But anyway, you've got to listen you've seriously find out the right people and figure out who is telling you nonsense and who is not. And if you want to know, if you want to know, let me give you a good barometer for that, okay? Remember a couple years ago when you had people telling you in practice that Jacoby Brissett was better than Drake May? Do you remember that? do you remember that, guys? I do. I vividly.
00:49:26
Speaker
you remember so terrible get expert Search those tweets. Look for those people. Remember them and just say, I'm not really sure about all that, okay? Listen, I'm not saying I'm always right or we're always right, but stuff like that. You've got to listen to the right people. Listen to Savage Boston. Listen to Joe.
00:49:42
Speaker
Listen to people read a tweet. I'm not going to call this person. that I almost tweeted it. It was like who's Drake Silver. No. This is a guy who works for one of those one of the Patriots organization type things, media people around here. and He had a tweet from Six years ago, specifically, where he talked about how he thought the Patriots would be better with Cam Newton as opposed to Tom Brady. That's beast, man. In 2020. And I was like, a fucking dick. Like, looking back, it was good looking back. It's still out there and I'm not calling person out. I just, it's on some of the takes, like, dude, I was there hyping up fucking Jalen Polk and Javon Baker. like, dude, look at these guys. Look at Jalen. They were fucking horrible.
00:50:28
Speaker
Horrible. So we all, we're all victim to our bad takes. Kevin, you're the hype man, though. you Everyone has your role. know. was trying. You're the hype man. that We need you to be the hype man. I was quite literally trying my hardest. to I was coping so fucking hard, dude. I was that glad but i knew that Lad McConkie was going to bite us, and we're going to see it this year with with with ah with Mike McDaniel. We're going to see Lad McConkie at his fullest, so that's going to hurt. Still,
00:50:55
Speaker
um but yeah jalen polk i remember what reading uh pfs oh no you know it was reception perception one was like a zone beater like top five zone beater that was a top five man beater i was getting hyped up by matt harman i'm just like yeah these guys are gonna be great we got two for one like oh christ should i know when javon baker dropped that first deep ball by drake from drake main the preseason against the eagles remember that fucking dime by Drake and he dropped it and I was like you motherfucker I like because I was so ready with that clip there I was like I can't believe you fucked up this preseason but your gut told you you knew you watched for five seconds you're like that's it I know this is not gonna work the people in the wheelchairs never stood up oh what can you can you believe you fucking said that for real
00:51:42
Speaker
good disgusting that's a decent quote actually i still i bring this i bring this up you have to back it up though you gotta to back it up i don't think i've ever had a more ridiculous moment it's not even it's when um i got an internet fight with jack jones uh at when he was going through the bringing guns into the airport thing that was like the most bizarre moment i think i've i've had and everyone's yelling at me because it's a patriots player was like i don't I don't think this guy, I don't know what's going on with this guy. It's weird behaviors here. Like, don't know, very strange, but that was maybe one of my weirdest Patriots moments.
00:52:14
Speaker
I don't know. How about when I saw his wife went after a bad? Remember that? Oh, did she? How long ago was that? but You guys don't remember this? No. ah and I love Babs, by the way I've met Babs like like maybe four or five times in person. like I've hung up with Babs. I like Babs. What happened? Hold on. Tell me the story.
00:52:36
Speaker
really I think Babs was saying that he was going to retire and like he didn't. he played and Honestly, by the look okay we all love the Hightower, but I really like part of me wants to believe that he played the season just because Babs said he was going to retire.
00:52:50
Speaker
And then he was awful and he actually did retire. But yeah, the wife was just really upset at Babs and it was just like really comical because behind the scenes we're all like, Babs is hard. You can't tame Babs. All right. I mean, maybe you can now, but like back in the day, it was like, Pat, please don't say that. And he's like, dude, I'm saying And he just straight up Like use Babs is just sending screenshots of like the random conversations from people are like, don't tell anyone. He's like sending me. I love the guy, man. But yeah. Was that Spike? Was he Spike King in the day? Was that Spike King era?
00:53:22
Speaker
Our cargo shorted um King, Spike King. We love that. All right, shout out Babs. Shout out Babs. All right, guys. I'm so sorry. Go for Joe. I was to say, the weird story that comes to mind to me is Chandler Jones on his knees at the police department. Remember that one? What was he on? Was he on something? Oh, he was on synthetic Delta 9 or some THC shit. Did you see what happened with him and me?
00:53:49
Speaker
No, you and Chandler, what did you do with Chandler? I have the clip. So the morning, and um i can't really I can't really say what all, what you'll have to look up what happened, but he's sitting by a fire. It's in the morning. And so you'll have to look up what exactly happened. But he's sitting behind a fire on a live. And I'm like, um I'm going into this because it was just, it was really weird. It was like five in the morning, his time, it was dark and he's sitting by a fire.
00:54:13
Speaker
And I was like, okay, I've got a call. It's Chandler Jones. And I think I said like, Chandler, you're cooking right now, which we all would interpret that as like, go off King, like, let's go. And he was like, I'm not cooking.
00:54:26
Speaker
And he just like straight up they started eviscerating me in front of everyone. He's like, see, it's just me and my fire, me and my dog. And he just started going crazy. And I was like, no, I actually just meant, and okay, whatever. But yes, Chandler Jones straight up just went off on, but he's having a bad day. Does that exist somewhere?
00:54:42
Speaker
that you have that actually have the recordings of of this. but all i said was go off gang and he's like i'm like okay okay my bad i think i think if you're in the internet game long enough then seriously like if you're in the the tweeting the internet game long enough you're gonna even if you try your best to not ruffle feathers and like to be honest like you're gonna you're gonna eventually end up in a conflict somewhere somehow with whether it's a player like at this point like i don't i don't i don't tweet I mean, I still tweet tweet crazy shit occasionally, but like I try not to. I try to you know, be try to be legit, but like, oh, I won't come after it I don't want to come after people unless it's for, you know, just an on-field reason. Like Will Campbell sucks.
00:55:27
Speaker
I'm going to say he sucks. Like that's that's the real story. You know what i mean? Like I want to be objective, even though the fans might not like it. It makes you feel bad there, man. Like, it really does make you – and I was just reminded of this. And, like, because, you know, we talk about Booty, and then he's, like, sending me message. I'm like, man, I've – you know, sometimes I don't say nice things about him. I'm just joking around. I'm like, I really – and all these years, I've really – really don't like talking bad about players. Like, we might joke around about them, but I really don't like that at all. And that's part reason. Because just human beings, right? These are guys we all love at the end of the day. We're just getting our good stuff, you know?
00:56:04
Speaker
It's a tough job. Obviously, they're under a lot of public scrutiny. I don't consider that they read my tweets or see my tweets, but they probably do. Especially if it's about them, I'm sure they're being sent it by somebody potentially. It's weird. I don't know who's reading that Robert Kraft thing I just sent out about him suing Foxborough. It's got 100,000 views in an hour. don't know who's reading that.
00:56:31
Speaker
No idea. it's that's what's the funny part about the Twitter stuff. Like you don't know who's reading your stuff or watching and and I love it. and the same time, it's kind of, it's kind of ridiculous. So anyway, um, I am psyched about the season, man. I'm psyched about training camp. i want to get down there, meet you guys, talk to everybody and just, just get a good community going. Cause I think that's, that's what it's about, man. And it should be a lot of fun this year. So, um, so yeah, I appreciate everyone tuning in. I'm going wrap it up now. Cause we, we're, we're going on here and, uh, And yeah, thanks, Bryson. Thanks, Joe, for coming on. We appreciate your time. And we will catch you guys next time.
00:57:08
Speaker
Peace out. Thank you.