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EPISODE 90 - Patriots minicamp!
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Introduction and New Collaborations
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Hey, we're live. How do I put you in the middle? All right, we're here. Hey, there we go. We're back. We're live with the Savage Boston podcast here.
00:00:12
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I'm Scott with my co-host Brett on behalf of SavageBoston.com. Again, go check it out. New website. And we're here with our guy or were who we're collabing with on our website as
Minicamp Insights and Player Performances
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well. We got Joe from LFG Pats Pod.
00:00:27
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What's up, Joe? How you doing? I'm doing good, man. it's It's awesome. Thank you for having me. And yeah, I really look forward to this ah this official collaboration, even though we've been collaborating for a long time. I love the cross promotion and love what you guys are putting out there.
00:00:43
Speaker
Collab, dude. We're collabing. It's official. We got a collab. Yeah. So, yeah, man, this is, ah you know, we're we're doing something. We got minicamp in. We got some shit going on.
00:00:55
Speaker
At least it's something. It's June 9th today at 830, 840 at night. now I'm just psyched that we at least have something happening compared to what's going to be pretty much the dark ages for the next, like,
00:01:09
Speaker
I don't know, man, after this week, what's what's it going to be till July? I believe July 25th now is when we have Patriots, um you know, Patriots training camp again. So, so yeah, man, it's the dark ages soon. So we got to soak it up, man, this week. You better learn something this week, watch some football this week, get, get, get, ah soak it in because we're going to be in trouble. So I guess, Joe, any thoughts today on what you saw from minicamp stuff coming out and any, any initial takes before we dive into it?
00:01:39
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Yeah, I mean, it's good to see Gonzo out there, right? um You know, he's he's saying all the right things. He showed up, right? That was the big thing. um You know, you got A.J. Brown being A.J. Brown against second third string quarterbacks, um quarterbacks but um he's going to be locked in this season. You can already tell. This guy's over the moon for this team, for Drake May. So you love to see that.
00:02:02
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hunter henry's hunter Hunter Henry's praising him. um You know, you got a beefed
Concerns and Speculations on Player Health
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up Kyle Williams. I'm excited about Kyle Williams. I think a lot, a lot of people are a lot of people are already out on him and think he's not on the same page as Drake may and blah, blah, blah.
00:02:18
Speaker
I think he could have a big year and not big in, you know, fantasy sense, but big for the team. He flashed enough last year where you can see the the potential. um And then, you know, I, I think it just comes down to the, the, what, what,
00:02:32
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makes this team strong, right? Which is the defense. If Gabe Ackes can get out there, i don't know what what this mystery procedure is that he had. i don't know if that's if that's out there, but it doesn't sound like anything serious. And I hope that he just they keep him on ice until ah and until it gets serious. But um yeah, I mean, this team is...
00:02:53
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last year right it was it was uh it was a mess right what was it the first oh first ota they had where drake made through like four interceptions and everyone's head exploded it's funny then oh i was hysterical i mean even i was like you know you tweet something out and people get pissed um you know and like they're on the radio they're like you know he's washed the you know the four interception ota um certainly a lot better this year to begin the last year but um This is Brett. Brett, any initial thoughts from the stuff you saw today before we dive into other stuff?
00:03:24
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Yeah, I agree with Joe. i mean, the biggest thing right now is obviously Gonzalez showing up. I think a lot of us all expected him not to actually come into minicamp without that contract extension, knowing he wants to do it.
00:03:36
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And, you know, he talks to rap reporters and talks, you know, he continues to be a good soldier, say how he wants to be here long term. But I think the fact that he showed up just is a good indication that there's probably some potential positive movement in the fact that they're going to close a deal soon and they will extend him.
00:03:56
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um You know, a guy coming into a year, a contract year, making four million when he's about to sign a contract, like, making $80 million dollars or something like that. It's one of those areas where he's going to want to make sure he gets that secure. So the fact that he's showing up to camp gives you a good sign. So that's probably the biggest takeaway I had from minicamp. And then, yeah, I mean, it's good to see some of the rookies getting into rep So like low move signs, he's out there for minicamp, but Yakis is obviously the big possible contributor on defense that we got as our edge guy, which we know we need edges. i want to see him out there. i want to see how they're working it. And as I said, it's just kind of curious to see what kind of, you know, action they do. how do they set guys up?
00:04:39
Speaker
You know, where they slot in guys and stuff. So good early signs, but it's one of those things where it'll be interesting to see where they end up and like how they build up. But like I said, Gonzo is the biggest one for me.
00:04:50
Speaker
Sounds like you're wrestling a bear in the background. Yeah, the dogs decided to come down and start wrestling near me. You're under attack. Let me move the dogs.
Patriots' Strategic Approaches and Predictions
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I know. My dog's upstairs. um But, yeah. So I want to challenge on Ackis first. Again, I keep wanting call him Yakis, man. I feel like that just rolls off the tongue. Yak, dude. But, um yeah, about Ackis. So is that not weird to people? Is this not, like, getting, like, a little weird? And I'm not talking about the contract. Like, that to me is – That to me is normal. Like last year, Travion didn't sign for a long time. You know, it wasn't playing. Like we understand the the issues with contracts and the second round picks are trying to figure out guarantees, blah, blah, blah. Like I understand that with contracts. What I think is weird about Akis is the injury situation, which someone asked a pointed question today, like,
00:05:41
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do you Did you guys know about that he would need a procedure? And Vrabel kind of like really quickly glo glossed over that. You know what I mean Like I shared the whole exchange today. But Vrabel was like, yeah, well, you know, we're just people aren't here. They're not under contract. You know, he just quickly blew it over. But it kind of sounded to me personally like Vrabel was not aware that he was going to need a surgery.
00:06:07
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That's what it sounded to me. And I know that's that's speculative, like as not informed, I, nobody checked in with people today. Nobody was like, yeah, no, he knew like, they're like, yeah, this is a little weird. So that's what everyone said. So um I don't know. I find it odd. Do I think this is like going to be some sort of bust or something? No.
00:06:26
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Like hopefully he gets, gets there soon. He can learn and grow with the team, but I just, I don't understand kind of, I don't get this mystery injury situation why and and why we're being so, yeah, why does this feel so secretive to me? So Joe, why don't you give me just your kind of drawn out take here on Ackes and this whole injury situation?
00:06:47
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Yeah, I think when it comes down to it, is he taking a page out of Belichick's book, right? You don't have to say anything, so you don't, right? And this is what Belichick did for years when it came to injuries, right?
00:06:58
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He only he waited until he had to say something. And I don't mind it. I don't mind the sidestepping. Now, let's see how long this goes, right? If it gets into July and he's and he's you know sitting on the sideline and on the bike and you know doing all kinds of things and he's not showing that he can go.
00:07:16
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That'll be different. um But yeah, is it it is it a knee scope? What is it? I'm interested to hear what that is. But he's not going to tell us anything. That's my take. But i yeah, there's there's probably a reason for it, right? Do you think Grable knew that this injury was – do you think he knew he was going to need a procedure? Like that's the weirder part part to me.
00:07:35
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You've to think that guys in the first and second round are well-vetted like that. you You have to think. But I don't know. i' i'm not I'm not familiar with the process. you know I'm not familiar with first-round picks for sure. you new You know every single thing about them.
00:07:50
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Second-round picks, I don't know. i's It's a great question. you, Bryson, in the chat referring to Lomu as Goatmu. Thank you, Bryson. Appreciate that. Yeah. Brett, what do you think? do you think there's some weird weird behavior here with this Akis injury situation?
00:08:08
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Well, i'
Offensive Dynamics and Key Players
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I'd have to imagine they would have scouted that and gotten the medicals. like A second round pick is a highly valuable pick for them to go out and get that. There's no way they wouldn't know that this would be something that was unknown. um yeah We'll see. I mean, it's it's super early and it's really everyone's chomping at the bit for grabbing anything that can come out. I'm not going to make much out of it, I think.
00:08:36
Speaker
It's one of those situations where, you yeah, you want to get him in early. You want to get him working out, see what they can get out of him. But it's not the end of the world. This is the first round of mini camps. The guy's going to sign. like I'm not going to jump around and say, this is something that, you know, it's a bust. It's not a good pick. It's not going to work out off of this, right? there's There's other things you could consider, but to me, I'm fine. Like I said, I want to see him because as a fan, I want to see how he works and how he shows and getting some reps. And,
00:09:05
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just it'd be obviously great to see him out there on the field because being a high pick in the second round and what's likely going to have some impact this year it'd be interesting to see how he performs out there but when it comes to him with his knee and a little bit vagueness they're always vague like this is the it's the continuous year of smoke they're just going smoke out they never like let anything out so i it's it's a bit of nothing Yeah.
00:09:32
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Yeah. I feel you. I'm sure. And people, I don't know, people are getting a little weird about the pick already. They're like, you know, they, it's, he's a bust, you know, he's, it's, it's too high wasted second round or like, let's, let's, you know, hold the horses a little here. Like let's let the guy get in the pads, man. Like this is, I think Atkins is going to be a dog, man. Like I'm, I'm into the pick. I like the pick.
00:09:55
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He's a strong kid, dude. So I'm excited to see that kid on the edge. I'm concerned about like the depth on the edge. like Harold Landry's not here. They're just like, they asked for Abel. He's like, yeah, he's basically like, he's a vet, whatever.
00:10:07
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But like, i don't know what kind of shape Harold Landry is going to come in at. Like, I don't, I don't know. Is he going to be a great player this year? Like what's, what's, what's Landry going to be at? So, you know, you don't know. And I think Landry is obviously end of the year injured and and not doing well.
00:10:23
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um But yeah, so to me, it's, it's a, you know, it is what is. I don't think he's, We have comment here from DW. Let me read this one here. Do you think that's why he went in the second round? what the What is injury history? I'm not sure. I think Atkins got mocked in the late first. I think in one mock I saw. but And I was surprised. like I always thought he was a second-round guy.
00:10:48
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um So I don't know you know. Obviously, I'm excited to see him go against Will Campbell this year. And i want I want to see what kind of player, what he looks like. But yeah, I never thought he was supposed to be supposed to be a first rounder that I don't know where that came from. But I mean, that's gonna be a massive camp battle. I mean, how do you think Akis Joe, how do you think Akis ends up looking against Will Campbell in camp this year? What do you think training camp battle?
00:11:13
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You know, um it it ah he's not like the speediest of guys, which that seems to be what overwhelms Will Campbell to an extent. But he's got a great combination of both speed and power, and he's relentless. So I think he's give him fits early on. I think i think Will Campbell is – he's got a big chip on his shoulder, right? He has to. There's no – it's like now or never for him. because everyone's looking at him and he knows it.
00:11:41
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So I think it's going to be vicious when they get the full pads on and when they're actually going 11 on 11. I think it'll be it'll be great. It's going to be great for both of them because I think they'll i think they'll both take some wins and losses. right It's not going to be – and Will Campbell has seen the best in the league, literally the best – Like there's not many tackles that have played that gauntlet of of the ends that we did towards the end of the year.
00:12:04
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So he's seen and we've seen him at his worst. We've seen him at his best. And now we get him back fully healthy. I'm excited. I'm really excited to see what he can do alongside AVT, who is there today. um And he was. Oh, yeah, he played a little today, right? He played a little today. He was in and out with Ben Brown. um I'm actually, I was thinking about my article today, and it's going to be a little bit about um the Josh McDaniels kind of history of his running game and and what kind of backs he produced. Because i right now, wearing ah a Trevion Henderson jersey, if you didn't notice. But I think Trevion Henderson could have an explosive year. i I really do. I think the sky's the limit for him if he can do the things that he needs to do, which is,
00:12:47
Speaker
Have some vision, have some patience, and obviously pass protect. Now, he may not need to have a lot of vision because this offensive line and this offense with Richie Gilliam sucks about Julian Hill, but we have plenty of run-blocking tight ends at this point on the roster. You got... um You know, you got the the fullback, you got Hunter Henry, you got Eli Raritan, you got um who's the other UDFA that we signed.
00:13:15
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We got the kid from Illinois. um But you got him. And then you got you still have fullback from last year, Brock Lampe. Who knows if they run him? Who knows if they run Gilliam at tight on the line?
00:13:27
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But I think that they're going I honestly think they're going to pound the rock. Like I know we got AJ Brown. We might even get Stefan Diggs, but I really think they're going to pound the rock this year. So Will Campbell, AVT, Jared Wilson, who he's from the center position and a phenomenal run blocker.
00:13:43
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He did it all. call He was the best run black blocking center in college football. So I'm excited. They're definitely going win the ball. I mean, like, that's that's a given. Brable wants to run the Rock. That's what he did in Tennessee.
00:13:59
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Every single one of his moves has been indicating that he wants to run the run the rock. I mean, bringing in a fullback like Gilliam, continuing to draft in the offensive line, which is what you need to do, and then signing free agents in the offensive line. He's just focused on trying to build up to get stability because he knows that's what's going to help open things up with the offense. Now, the difference with, you know where he's at with the Patriots versus where he's at in Tennessee is obviously Drake May. Like he has a legit quarterback, whereas you have a run game. to help complement ah an elite quarterback, it opens everything up. So, yeah, we're going to run the rock. We do have to show that we can do it on a consistent level. That is the biggest thing. We could not do that last year. Obviously, minicamp is never a good sign. I mean, they're really not. They're not full pads. They're not hitting, really. Like, that's not going to be a good indication on what it's going to be. But –
00:14:49
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To me, it'll be interesting to see how they do the reps, where they go, and 100% agree. Henderson, like he just he has all the abilities to do it. It's just has he grown as a running back to understand how to be patient, make sure he reads it and stops running into the ass of his blockers in front of him and actually has the patience to hit the hole where the hole is there. Fred hates how Henderson runs.
00:15:13
Speaker
Oh my God, dude, how many times does he have to run into the ass of his outside lineman? I know. He'll be like, what are you doing, dude? No, what I was saying, we we mentioned this the other pod, Joe, we were saying like, you know, again, if you had said before the season, this dude was going to have, you know, whatever 900 yards rushing and, and like, yeah I forget, he had a a bunch of TDs, like nine TDs or something like that Like, if you said that before the season, you'd be like, wow, that's a great, it's a great season. Wow. You know what mean? Like you'd be, you'd be into it 900 yards for a rookie back. So, but then you watch it and like, yeah, he's got the home run talent, but it's true, man. He just loves running into the ass of his lineman and like his blocking was poor.
00:15:53
Speaker
Um, so i you know, I loved, uh, you know mandre ended up coming back last year and playing really well which was awesome you know after his fumbling issues we all doubted him i doubted him everyone doubted him um and he turned out to be at a way better all-purpose back at the end of the year you know what mean especially in the postseason like henderson henderson couldn't function in the postseason yeah i guess the entire offense couldn't really function in the postseason so it's not like you know it wasn't anything wasn't anything crazy um let's talk about booty for a second so booty um
00:16:26
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You know, Booty was here today, which was interesting. um And, ah you know, obviously happy he showed up. I think, like, we've been saying it for a while on here.
00:16:37
Speaker
If they could find a return for him, he'd be traded. You know what i mean? Like, this is the problem. Like, Booty was here. he played a bunch today. They said he was he played a bunch. He was lined up at X sometimes when A.J. Brown was at Z. ah but But, yeah, man, like,
00:16:54
Speaker
It's weird. I don't know. Why can't they trade him? Why can't they find a home for him? Do you know what I mean? You
Receiver Evaluations and Trade Challenges
00:17:00
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feel like at this point, you can't get a five? like you You have to like bring him in and make him work? like just get up Why can't why can't they find a home for him, Joe?
00:17:08
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i it It really is astounding. or like You look at someone like the Chiefs, right? I would be like throwing my fifth-round pick. i be I'd be driving to Gillette and handing it to Kraft or Elliott Wolfe in person. um That that that ah offense is devout of real talent. I mean, you've got Rasheed Rice, who's in jail. Is he still in jail? Is he getting out soon? I know. The Chiefs are disaster, dude. They're a complete disaster. Now, they they did a great job um in their first round by replacing their corner with, you know, the the number six overall corner.
00:17:42
Speaker
um But when it comes to their offense, they're a mess. I mean, I do like Kenneth Walker from a fantasy standpoint. I'm actually kind of psyched on him. But as a team, like an actual team to get wins I just don't see it. I don't see how they're going to do it again this year with an aging Kelsey and Rasheed Rice. I don't know how they haven't talked about his suspension yet. That's wild to me. But, yeah, there's plenty of teams that could use his services, right? Like, to me, I don't see, like, how they don't give at least a six-round pick, a pick swap, like a fifth and a sixth. they're comfortable playing taekwondo but they don't want booty exactly exactly exactly yeah exactly you know guys the guy's wrist there is uh you know a tiny wrist the guy's an injury waiting to happen and you got xavier worthy who runs into his own players and separates his shoulder i don't get it yeah i don't really get that somebody they should be able to find a home for him somewhere brett why do you think they can't get rid of booty right now since they're trying to trade him
00:18:38
Speaker
My only guess is they're asking too much. And i think they're in a position where it doesn't hurt for them to ask for more. So like if they're shopping him and trying to get to a four, which I don't think they're going to get, that would be the only reason. Because the way they look at it is, well, we'll try it for a four There's no reason why we have to push him out sooner like sooner than that.
00:19:03
Speaker
There's no obligation for it. Again, Booty is saying all the right things, which is good on him. But like, ultimately, I think, yeah, they've been wanting to trade him for the last couple of years.
00:19:15
Speaker
Vrabel is a player's coach, and he recognizes the fact that you're kind of screwing the guy over if you don't give him an opportunity to go elsewhere. He's just, I know he's working in three reps right now. And they they're again, this is minicamp. There's really not a ton going on here at the moment.
00:19:31
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But it's one of those things where you're going to want to get them in when they get OTAs going forward and they're getting more action in the offseason, like into the right environment for the player, as well as he starts to get disgruntled. Like he's saying the right things today, but eventually he's going to see where his opportunities are and and how he's going to get pushed down, down further and further. And then it becomes a disgruntled guy. Yeah.
00:19:55
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becomes an issue in the locker room, which, again, I think Rabel's going to manage through it. But just knowing Rabel as being a player's coach, I think he's going to ultimately move them. So the only reason why I think, like I said, they haven't done it is they're probably asking too high because there's no they don't have a huge need to push them.
00:20:10
Speaker
So they're going to see what bites. If anyone happens to be stupid and throw a fourth at it, perfect. If not, well, then they slowly drop the asking price and then eventually if they had to cut them, they could cut them.
00:20:22
Speaker
I think if you could get him for a six, great. I mean, you drafted him at six. So that's really not that bad for what you are able to get out of him as an asset. But clearly he's just not valued to the same level that we would want him to be valued at around the league.
00:20:36
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Now, what do you think? ah Do you think they end up giving Pop Douglas a second contract? No. because Can't. You know what I mean? Like, I know he's down there, but, like, they he seems to, if he just figure out how to be, like, not fall down when he catches the ball.
00:20:52
Speaker
like Like, as soon as he tries to get yak, he falls down on ah most of the plays. But, like, he's, the kid can get open. Like, if you can use him. You know what I mean? Like, in it today, I guess, even he's still out there. He caught a ton of balls today. He gets open. He's, he's ah you know, he's obviously a really shifty, fast player. i just wonder, like, you know, i maybe he's probably not going to take a cheap deal. I'd love to have him back on like a team, a really, really team friendly deal, but it feels like another guy that's going to be out of here.
00:21:22
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You know what mean? Like, like, I feel like you could give him, I don't know. Like, I don't know what he would take. That's the thing. Like, I think you could try your best to keep them in here. um Like people, I'm not even mentioning like Efton Chisholm until you see a legitimate team.
00:21:37
Speaker
play from him in training camp or something like i'm not yeah people people getting ahead of themselves with that um but yeah pop douglas man he's he certainly um still looks explosive and he he can catch the ball man i like i like how he's he's moving like he's the guy i would rather give a cheap second contract to i think booty is absolutely done um there's just way too many people in that room um Oh, man, and we we just have to see what Kyle Williams looks like, which, again, is kind of everyone's – the question for everybody was, what do you get from Kyle Williams? You know you think he takes ah do you think he takes the next leap Joe?
00:22:12
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I do, um mainly because um he he flashed quite a bit in year one. like He showed us what he can do. um It's year two in the Josh McDaniels system, which is notoriously difficult for younger players, for receivers in general, right with all the option routes. um he's just He's too talented to fail, in my opinion. And and at yet the very least, I think Josh McDaniels is going to learn how to scheme him open a little more. i We said it a bunch of times last year in the and the game against the Bucs, right, where it's like that perfect crosser. Like, this guy is – if you put this guy and and you give a Drake Mason time to block, he's going to get open. Like, he's too fast. He really is.
00:22:51
Speaker
He ran 22.5 miles per hour at the ah the Senior Bowl. So he's a burner, and, like, he's just too talented. And he put on some muscle. He put on, like, probably 10 pounds of muscle. he looks He looks like more of an NFL player for sure.
00:23:05
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um So, yeah, I have high hopes for him. um i think Pop Douglas, if you can get him in an incentive-laden deal where you're giving him like $5 million guarantee, but he can get up to like $9 million, I think that's fair.
00:23:16
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um And I think he's worth it. I do because he does make big plays. The only thing I don't like about him is his size. like He is literal midget. He's 5'8 out there. And you can see it a lot of times when Drake Mays trying to get him the ball. It's such a tight window because he he doesn't really have the wingspan.
00:23:33
Speaker
um So i don't love that. And that's where i do love Chisholm more because Chisholm's a more heady player. if he He's a more like – He was slow, dude. He's slow, but he but he gets he gets into the spot. right He knows the spot he needs to be in. He's a studious player. Hold on. let me I want to rant about something for just one second. this ah Sorry, a rant coming at 23 minutes of the podcast. People need to stop calling fucking Efton Chisholm Julian Edelman.
00:23:56
Speaker
That's ridiculous. You have to stop. Has anyone actually looked at the athleticism of Julian Edelman? like Does anyone have any idea how athletic he was compared to Chisholm? Like he ran a 4-4, Chisholm runs a 4-7.
00:24:08
Speaker
He had literally an elite, elite, like three cone. Chisholm's not the same dude. He's not on the same plane athletically. I understand like he he's he's still a good, decent-sized kid, Chisholm. Maybe he's, you know, he can figure out how to sit down in his own. He can run routes.
00:24:24
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But yes, I don't, ah I'm not, know but to keep the chat's going nuts about Chisholm. I can't, how Bryson, what are, Bryson's, I can't tell if he's pro or anti-Chisholm in the chat. You never know. You never really know. Anyway, I can't, dude, he literally, like, you couldn't be being completely serious. He could not be more different than Edelman. Just because he's a white person does not mean he's the same human being as fucking Julian Edelman.
00:24:53
Speaker
I'm sorry. No, absolutely. No, no. I would never call him. I think in the beginning it was very easy to say, and always said Danny Amendola, right? And even Danny Amendola coming out of college was a phenom. That's a better comp. Yeah, Amendola. That's a better
Offensive Strategies and Player Potential
00:25:08
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comp.
00:25:08
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Yeah, I was more on the Amendola side because I think that's kind of it. And who knows what this what his ceiling is? Because Amendola was actually a pretty prolific player for the Rams when he started. He actually lit it up pretty good his first or a second year.
00:25:21
Speaker
um but and And he was amazing at punt returns. He was made amazing at everything. And that's one thing that Efton Chisholm doesn't really do, isn't really separate himself from a special team standpoint. So he's got to really do it from the slot position. He's got to really dominate that.
00:25:35
Speaker
And I do think he has a ah possibility to beat it out Pop, but Pop always looks good in camp. Last camp, he looked like he had this like next year. I'm like, oh, this guy's going to pop off this year. he looked really good and then he kind of went and you know behind the scenes he kind of liked and he come out he'd have his big games right the saints game where they called that that that one back and he still had a touchdown i think too there um he has some big moments and some big games it's just he's he's never going to be a focal point but i think he can he can help us win some games but yeah it's going to come down to money some idiot team is going to probably pay him 10 million a year right i mean you could be right brad do you have any thoughts on that
00:26:13
Speaker
I mean, circling back to Kyle Williams, I want to see him progress. For me, it was understanding the offense and how Josh was utilizing him. There was a lot of times last year where you just look at it and clearly Drake and Kyle were out of sync, which leads me to be this is a Kyle Williams issue because Drake didn't have that issue with a lot of other guys. So Kyle Williams, for whatever reason, struggled to like understand the offense, understand where he needed to be.
00:26:41
Speaker
But in the same breath, and like Joe mentioned, it's like, how is Josh utilizing him again? I mean, i i said this with Henderson. I'd say the same thing with Williams. When you get dynamic talent like that, you just got find a way to get that man into space for whatever reason. Like we just avoided screen passes to any level or degree. And when you look at guys like that, it's like, what the fuck are you doing? Why not throw a screen out there and try to make something move like It it drove me crazy because you just never put those guys out into space so they could be lethal. And for a guy like Kyle Williams, who's clearly struggling to understand the offense, reading, whether he's supposed to sit in the zone or if he's supposed to go, you know, running out, like he just didn't understand it.
00:27:25
Speaker
And Josh did him no favors, which – He's a rookie. I'm not asking for our OC to write the entire playbook around making sure Kyle Williams gets his. But at the same time, can you throw him a bone every now and again, knowing the fact that if you got him out in space, put him out in the flat, he'd probably be able to juke on one guy. And then who the hell knows he's off to the races. So I'd like to see Josh be more creative with Kyle Williams.
00:27:50
Speaker
But at the same time, and we talked about it last year about the possibility of bringing in a digs and how that could potentially hurt Kyle Williams, which to my stance, I don't really care. This is the professional football league. You got to be able to perform.
00:28:04
Speaker
I got to see him step up and be able to run the right ah offense, know the zones, understand how to be in sync with Drake. Like that has to click. And those are some of the things I'll be trying to look out for. i know we're talking about how he's looking with Dobbs early on.
00:28:17
Speaker
what's going on with A.J. Brown. We've got to get May in sync with Kyle Williams, too. You need that extra option. Yeah. I just want to read – this is kind of like depressing stat line for Pop Douglas. you want to know how many receptions and yards he had last year?
00:28:31
Speaker
have any idea? Do you want to but' take a guess? Because I know like I didn't remember at the top my head. Take a guess. I'm going to guess it's probably like very embarrassing, like high 30s with like 400 yards and i don't know, four or five scores, something crazy like that. Pretty darn on it, Joe. Pretty close. Only 31 receptions for 447 and three touchdowns.
00:28:54
Speaker
I thought I was low. I thought I was low. Success percent was higher because obviously he's working with like an efficient Drake May. um but But that's not good. You know what I mean? And that's someone that like if he wants to get another contract or stay in this team, man, like he's got to he's got to find find time, find reps. Like, I don't know how he's going to get ah get more targets, but like it's not a great year, you know, between we'd a few guys. And that's with that's without the roster having A.J. Brown and Romeo Dobbs.
00:29:25
Speaker
I think about that. And like and the dig stuff is still floating out there, too. You know what mean? Like Diggs is not completely off the table. So I just, like I said, in training camp, man, you're right. Every year he comes out and and Pop Douglas looks like an absolute stud every year, dude, in training camp. And then it's like, it just either falls off or guys learn how to play against him or he doesn't know how to sit in zone. I don't know what it may be, but he always kind of, he always has some sort of weird fall fall off, you know? Our roster's Super Bowl, it was not good last year. like It just wasn't. yeah And it definitely showed up in and the playoffs. We could not move the ball. We could not get any separation. You look the Super Bowl, like we couldn't do anything, which is why we had to go out and get Dobbs and A.J. Brown, who were like a one and two option.
00:30:11
Speaker
You look at it and say you had a Super Bowl roster team and you didn't have a one and a two. Like it just shows how great an elite Drake May was to find people to get open, find ways to like throw it in tight windows and make things happen.
00:30:25
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, he spread the ball around, you know, Matt Collins was the second leading wide receiver behind digs. I think maybe Henry. I'm not really sure about that, but from wide receiver room, he definitely was the second on that run.
00:30:38
Speaker
And you look at Hollins, like he's a journeyman wide receiver. Like our wide receiver room was not good last year. Adding A.J. Brown, adding Dobbs significantly improves it.
00:30:50
Speaker
But we need that third option. I think Hollins could be good and serviceable, but it can't just be those three. That's why I say we need Kyle Williams to elevate. I think when it comes down to it, I think the biggest thing from that Super Bowl was just yeah Will Campbell and a guy who never played guard, playing guard. I think those are the two biggest things. Because I did look back. I mean, it's it's... You know, it took me probably about two months, but i looked back and i there were plays where people were open. So it's just, it to me, it was just a relentless pass rush, which I think, I have the Patriots winning opening night. I really think that this team lost, the the Seahawks lost a lot of good players. We gained, like we're definitely on the rise in there. Obviously, it's it's difficult to to come back after a Super Bowl win and that roster, right? it's kind of Eagles-esque, right? The Eagles. had that like, you know, massive fall off when they lost Milton Williams and who was it? Sweat. And ah there was another guy, too, that was really big. But um again, I just I think this team is they're going to be based off this run game. And that's just going open up everything else, guys. To me, that's that's what this team screams is they're going to run the ball. They're going to run play action. And all these guys that are running these crosses and these deep patterns, that's why I really like Kyle Williams this year because what happens when you run the ball well, right?
00:32:13
Speaker
Everything else opens up. It becomes a lot easier. There's not option routes because your option is a guy screaming down the middle of the field because they think you're running it. um So to me, it's it's it's it opens everything up and it makes everything more
Contract Negotiations and Market Analysis
00:32:25
Speaker
simple.
00:32:25
Speaker
And I think that's that's where these guys will shine. they eat like Kyle Williams to me, is is um he's the most unique player We don't have like Trevion Henderson up from the running back position, but he's the most unique receiver that we have outside of obviously A.J. Brown, who's you know a potential Hall of Famer.
00:32:42
Speaker
um So to me, it's like that that combination of his deep ball ability and Kyle Williams to me screams, you know, I think we got ah think we got i think we got a good one Yeah, i think, I think um and mean, first off, AJ Brown, I think is going to be probably a first ballot Hall of Famer when are you look at it.
00:33:00
Speaker
You know, like I'm ah hoping if if his career ends the next two to three years how we want it to go here, then yeah, you're looking at a guy who's who's literally a first ballot Hall of Fame player.
00:33:13
Speaker
um Which, you know, again, like there's no reason to think him and Drake aren't goingnna aren' going to be tremendous. You know, like I think, I think, what's everyone saying no in the chat? i don't know everyone's saying no.
00:33:27
Speaker
Are you saying no? Cause I said he was going to be a first ballot hall of fame player. agent Or cause Drake Silva said Kyle Williams is getting as many snaps as me with the starting offense. He's so cooked sadly. Oh, that's funny. um No, I, I basically, this is more confusing with the chat doing the live stream sometimes. Cause I'm trying to figure out what everyone's yelling about while we're talking. This is supposed to be a collaboration Bryson. And yeah,
00:33:51
Speaker
title talk come on man it's funny um yeah yeah we need the full title talk collab too we'll get everyone in here um but yeah man so yeah i basically dude there's no reason to think aj brown's not gonna not gonna cook with drake man this year you know and i think um i understand the knee concerns like You're gonna tell me he can't he can't work out the need for two more years of high-level play. like i don't I believe he can. i think the dude takes takes care of his body.
00:34:20
Speaker
he's He's a beast, man. He's a freak. Dude, watch him in training can Being dead serious, like watch him in training camp, he's going to dominate people. I think you're going to way more physical than you think he is. or I mean, or unless that's exactly what people think he is. But like compared to watching who we've been watching at the wide receiver position for years here, you're going to see him in camp and you'll be like, oh fuck. Like that's like, again, that's a dog.
00:34:46
Speaker
Like that's that's someone who you have to be scared of. That's somebody who you line up. You have to know where they are. Everyone complained all fucking year, dude, about in the postseason, like we didn't have any matchup. but You know, no one who you feared on the offense. The only one you feared was Drake May. You you you you you take out Drake May and then you don't have anybody else. Yeah.
00:35:08
Speaker
You know, this year, that's not true, man. and Like, you take out Drake May, you you know, you have A.J. Brown there. And then even Dobbs, to me, like, they're sleeping on Dobbs. Like, Dobbs is going to be a massive red zone target, huge body. So, ah yeah, man, I think the offense is going to be improved. I don't know what what it looks like in practice against the Seahawks week one.
00:35:27
Speaker
i have no idea. Yeah, Joe's enjoying the chat. Just laughing. it's so funny anyway so yeah man it's been um you know hey this one i'm just bummed out that we're gonna have like after this week dude it's again it's like what six weeks six straight weeks of of no football like nothing that's that's ass dude like that's you there's nothing in there like the red socks are horrible too it's not like we can just go pivot onto the red socks and
00:36:00
Speaker
And have fun. We'll get some stuff, though, because you remember last year, right, when they broke away from this, they had the, ah you know, it was it the North Carolina trip with the receivers? And, you know, so there's little little nuggets here and there. But, yeah, it's it's largely pretty dead. But there is there will be some stuff. It's just going to be random and on a whim, you know?
00:36:20
Speaker
People are going to be... Dying, dying for football. um Yeah. What do you think ah Christian Gonzalez? You haven't touched on him yet. You think that deal gets done middle of training camp? Is that before training camp? When does he get paid?
00:36:32
Speaker
ah It has to happen. that like he's and I don't blame him for making a business decision. He's saying it's between my agent and the team, and and it's going to stay that way. I don't think he's going to play until until that gets done. so and he Like I heard before, oh, we're going to trade him. Kraft's not going to pay. I've heard he's not worth it from ah from a fair amount of people, too, which I – I just don't know what people are looking. I don't know what they're watching.
00:36:56
Speaker
um But he's, yeah, he's just, he's a freak athlete. I think it's because he's deceptively like fast and it's not even that he's fast, but he is closing speed. He's kind of like Stefan Gilmore. I've always compared him to Gilmore where he has that, like, Oh, you you think he's B and he just like last second just comes in and makes a play on the ball.
00:37:14
Speaker
Um, And you just don't hear his name, right? And that's what people, it's like a left tackle. Like when you don't hear their name, you're they're doing good. Yeah. So. Well, he definitely shouldn he definitely showed up in the biggest moments. I mean, he had some amazing breakups in the Super Bowl like that kept us within striking distance. He showed that he can be elite against one of the most elite wide receivers in the league with JSN. And he had plenty of options like plenty of times where he was the better player on the field. So he's going to get paid.
00:37:47
Speaker
It is interesting, though, like I said, the fact that he's out there. you've got news coming out about Abdul Karir out in the Giants and you i'll see what that ends up being for an injury. So there's nothing like given.
00:37:58
Speaker
Like you can blow out your knee doing want something stupid out here on the field. Like there's nothing given. And when you're a guy of his level of you know caliber play and where he's projecting out to be for a contract, he's going get paid.
00:38:14
Speaker
He should get paid by the Patriots. I think it's a good sign that he's out there because that leads me to believe he's going to get paid. Because if they were distant, his agent would be like, you do not go out in that field at all.
00:38:24
Speaker
But the fact that he's just like, I'm letting my agent do the work. This is a business thing. And I'm going to come out here and play. That's him towing, like saying good soldier stuff. But that also to me is an indication that he's probably close to getting that contract. So They're probably going to deal with it after they break from minicamp and then they'll go through and figure it out. So it'll be before they come back together and camp.
00:38:48
Speaker
Another genuine question about that. Why do people keep theorizing? I've seen, I think it's like Tommy Curran was theorizing this amongst some radio dudes like, They think for some reason he's going to get paid like a top wide receiver or something. Like he's coming in asking for like $40 million. Like i've heard this take by other people suggesting he's looking for um massive money like with like a different position. And that doesn't make any fucking sense.
00:39:13
Speaker
Like they're not going just randomly have him at Jamar Chase money. Like that's not what happens. Like you need to set the – you got to set the market. Like he can set the market, but the quarterback market is at like $31 million. dollars Like that's what you're looking at to set the market. You don't just jump to like – you're not just going to give him a quarterback contract.
00:39:29
Speaker
Like you've got to set the market. So like I don't understand where Curran's getting that. i don't and i don't really get – I forget which radio show was too this morning. But they were just theorizing about you're going to have to give some monster deal to Gonzo like in ah in a different stratosphere. And that's just not going happen.
00:39:47
Speaker
You know, like it's just not – again, it's not how it goes. So, again, if it was me, I'm looking probably 32, 33 million AAV, which would be the same as Witherspoon. If you're giving him 35 and you some massive bump, like that means you think he's the best fucking corner like ever. That means you think he's the best cornerback in football, better than Pat Sertain, better than Witherspoon. Like you think he's the best. So all I'm saying – um want him to get paid, want him to be extended,
00:40:17
Speaker
ah but he's not get some like insane deal. Like it should, the deal has to make sense. You don't just like get crazy money. Like him and Witherspoon.
00:40:27
Speaker
I just don't like how they're in cahoots with their same agency, bouncing the contract off one another. Like who's getting the better deal. Who has the better offer like that? Who's got more guaranteed money. Cause you know, that's what's, that's what's happening. You know, like they both are at CAA. So um anyway, that's, that's what I kind of feel. Any, any more thoughts on that?
00:40:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think that's that hits it on the head, right? It's like this is all an equation that it's that that's existed from the beginning of the NFL, right? These guys, all it's all positional. It's all baked in All the agents know it. They're not going to be looking for – then what? They're going to hold out for an extra $3 or $4 million when no one else gets paid that? like it's just that you You just don't see that happen like that. I mean, maybe with a quarterback position, right? But even then, it's pretty like within $1 or $2 million or $3 million. It's like not – You're not talking 5 million above the highest player. It doesn't it doesn't happen.
00:41:18
Speaker
I mean, you just look at the Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. Like, they were going through the same thing, and Chase was like, I'm going to make more than Jefferson, right? And they it was within margins. So this thing's going to be super close. I can't imagine Seattle or the Patriots are going to get stupid here.
00:41:35
Speaker
um So, yeah, obviously having the same agent makes it a tricky dynamic because they're both kind of leaning on each other to see who can get the most leverage. Because if one guy is able to get up to 35, well, then the next guy is going to be, hey, I want 36.
00:41:52
Speaker
And that's just the way market setting guys go. They set the market this year and then it resets it next year. so you know we'll see it's probably going to be in that 32 33 range i don't see it going higher than that yeah that would be insane someone in the chat just said like something like 38 million a year that would be uh yeah there's no it just that's just not gonna happen you know what mean like ah they they gotta to keep it under wraps man that's why they have a fucking
00:42:23
Speaker
yeah That's why they – Elliott Wolfe's actually been doing – they work out good contracts, to be honest. like if you If you want to give Wolfe and even Matt Groh a compliment for all the times we shit on them, right? like They work out pretty good contracts. I like the contracts they've been doing. They give teams they give teams good outs.
00:42:41
Speaker
They give the team good outs, team-friendly deals. like When's the last time the Patriots had a horrible, not team-friendly contract you needed to get out from under? Do you guys remember, like, can you guys recall one in the last years? Wolf, I was saying this the whole time with the whole Howie Roseman thing. They're like, oh, Howie's going to get a 2027 first, accept it. And it's like, guys, Wolf doesn't, and he's not on record to lose deals. He doesn't do it. He called Howie on his bluff, right? Howie wanted a first and a second in 2027. And he said, all right, go find it. Go get it from somebody else. Bro, Howie wanted picks in 2026. He wanted a first in 2026 in the combine. Wolf's like, no. Then he's like, I'll take a first in 2027. He goes, no, and he's like, go get it from
Defensive Strategies and Player Comebacks
00:43:22
Speaker
someone else then. Then he's like, oh, can we do it first? And, like, they play kick the can. Like, this is what people don't get. They have two full seasons. They trade A.J. Brown. He's not on their team, and they have no replacement for him for two full seasons before they get to use that pick.
00:43:36
Speaker
That hurts, too. Like, that again, that hurts. It's not like – I get it. They still got a first, but, like, it's not just some magic given that he – that Howie really got him. Like, no, like this was the Rams were doing the same shit. The Rams almost made this deal and they backed out for a variety of reasons. They couldn't make it work. They didn't love the knee. The Devante Adams trade thing fell through. There was a couple reasons. Breer breer documented this whole fucking thing.
00:44:02
Speaker
But like, but yeah, they this is, it wasn't just some slam dunk. Like the Miles Garrett trade was like, let's like, let's dump a ton of picks and give you Jared verse.
00:44:13
Speaker
you know Like, and Jared versus a really good player. He's not a Malice Garrett, but he's a really good player. So like that to me is a pretty good deal for the Browns. Just the problem is the Browns will never make anything of it because they're the fucking Browns.
00:44:26
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like that's, that's the difference. So um yes, I don't think Howie was some like super genius. Let me work one over. Like you still have to explain to your fan base and sell the Eagles fan base on hey, like we're going to be okay. We're going to figure out a way to do this. They better hope Makai Lemon um figures out how to be a good good wide receiver. And they have like Deuterius was a wicks or whatever. I forget who they are. give a fuck. They got Eli Stowers as well. they have um they do have it They have a pretty formidable offense. But here's the thing.
00:45:02
Speaker
Jalen Hurts sucks. I'm just going to say it. He's not a good quarterback. He is a one-to-two read at most quarterback, and then it breaks down and he has to run or just throws it away. I mean, there's a whole highlight series of him throwing terrible ball balls to A.J. Brown. He's not a good quarterback. He's not in the long-term plans of that team, I guarantee it. I know a lot of Eagles fans that are just like, they're they're done with him. And then they won't say it on Twitter, but there's a plenty like plenty of actual people, not Twitter people, that will say that they they're sick of Jalen Hurts. So like this guy's not the answer. And I agree.
00:45:36
Speaker
actually think it's been somewhat widely reported even that this is a make or break year for Jalen Hurts. Like I think even maybe Shaft. I forget who was talking about, about the national guys were saying this is kind of make or break for Hurts.
00:45:47
Speaker
And then if he doesn't perform in, like they're going start looking for his replacement because he was he was awful last year. um And, you know, again, the year he won the quarterback, the sir Super Bowl, he was good.
00:45:59
Speaker
And also they had maybe the best roster I've ever fucking seen, like that 20, 20, 14 or whatever it was like that roster was unbelievable. Generational team. It's like ridiculous team.
00:46:11
Speaker
They had disgusting talent everywhere. So, and, and honestly hurts and Drake silver just the through another interception today over the middle. He can't throw over the middle. He's having a ton of probably can't throw over the fucking middle.
00:46:23
Speaker
And now they have Makai lemon who I don't, who they claim wants to go over the middle. I don't know. I heard he doesn't look good and he's kind of injured again. it's like, so, you know, We'll see what that team turns out to be. But like, I'm happy where the Patriots are.
00:46:37
Speaker
I'm happy with there where the offense I'm happy with how the quarterback is. i like the, ah ah the only thing I don't like right now is I don't know what the fuck's going on with the edge role.
00:46:49
Speaker
um We need our second rounder to play, to start participating, sign this contract. And I don't know. God knows what fucking surgery he had and why people don't want to talk about what surgery he had. Where's that info? Where's where's the reporters on that? i was trying to text people in like, what's going on? Do we have any idea? Everyone's like, yeah, no, it's weird.
00:47:08
Speaker
Like, that's what I got back. Like, no, one could like word what's going on? like What surgery did he have? He just said, yeah, he you had a procedure. OK, what? Like no one knows, like they're being so fucking tight with the, with the health information. And again, that's fine. I just personally want to know. So. It's not a great feeling with that position. And then you will, then you look at turn to the linebacker position and look at the depth there too. So it's not great that we're starting this way, but it's early. This could be, you know, a maintenance thing. I mean, i wouldn't go that far because it was a procedure, but could be something that was, you know, give him a month and he'll be back, you know, half, half speed.
Conclusion: Off-season Reflections and Training Camp Anticipation
00:47:48
Speaker
And then, you know, he picks it up when it comes to preseason and then, by the season he's okay but it does it's not great and not great feeling at a position that we needed him right we drafted him in the second round because we need him to play big snaps right away Harold Landry is he ready what's his story who knows and then I think Landry is going to be fighting fighting dude I don't know why i just have like vibes like
00:48:10
Speaker
guys get older coming off an injury i just think he's gonna be fighting like they're gonna keep him on the team he'll probably have a spot um and i think i think he is kind his contract i believe from when i looked it up is too poor that they can't cut him yeah um and that that would be one of those contracts that again that's a that's a variable guy the first guy they brought in that they paid but like i'm pretty confident he doesn't have a great contract it's not great it's a terrible you can't trade him like it's just not his cap is 16 16 and a half million what's his uh how does that hurt them if they cut him right now uh it's a good question i forget his post june first number yeah he has he has one more uh sorry two more years on the deal but he has his out
00:48:54
Speaker
Oh man, his out is after. Yeah, it's not a good deal, dude. Nah, it sucks. Not a good deal. 19 million, 19 million in dead cap space.
00:49:06
Speaker
ah Yeah, they can't cut him this year. They can cut him next year. yeah um It's a June 1st, as they cut 2027. It's four mil of dead cap. So I'm just looking ahead. He'll probably be gone next year, but he'll be on the team this year and you hope he can go. i just I don't envision him being kind of the same guy, but you know, let's see, let's see how it, how it plays out.
00:49:29
Speaker
Um, and yeah, it's good point. Bryson, he'll have a lesser role and benefit because of it. Yeah, probably true. Maybe it'll be able to stay healthier. have a little more explosion off the edge. Maybe you make them a specialist, just get them out there on third downs. You know, um, I think there's, there's, you know, nothing wrong with that.
00:49:48
Speaker
Um, But, yeah, man, um well, why don't we start wrapping it just because we're 50 minutes in we'll keep you guys forever. any we got any – Brett, why don't you give me any final thoughts, anything you want to go over, chat about, anything important?
00:50:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, again, i don't think there's going to too much coming out of minicamp. We talked about depth. This is one of the challenges when you're in a rebuilding process. The depth comes because you have successful draft picks, and we just – haven't had a good run with draft picks other than the last year, obviously. And then we'll see what happens this year.
00:50:21
Speaker
Hopefully that all produced like, if we have the hit rate, like we had last year, then we could be cooking. So we'll see. i think it's one of those things where, like I said, just, just get that Gonzo truck contract put in place. It's just the domino piece that helps line up everything else going forward from a longevity standpoint. So I really, really, really would like to see them get that one organized.
00:50:43
Speaker
Other than that, I mean, yeah, we're about to hit dead season. So enjoy it while it lasts, boys. and know we're going to have to get some like ah some interviews lined up or some shit. We're going to do some like off color, off color streams or something. So I'm going to keep people entertained for like the six weeks of dead zone before. Because you know what's camp ramps up, dude. We're all going to get fucking just jazzed. Everyone's just going jazzed up.
00:51:05
Speaker
I got to get down there for that first day. i just got to be jazzed. I'm going to make it happen. We'll do a super, super collab podcast. We'll have like 10 guys on one pod. We'll do super, super collab. Any final thoughts, Joe? Anything you want to get over, get off your chest?
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's it's more of a I think I'm going to take this time to ah to kind of do some research. I was saying earlier, I want to look at the yeah you know olden years, Josh McDaniels offenses. what What do they do with a fullback? What they do with this kind of personnel? And what what do I see for you know this team from ah from a running standpoint? I want to focus on that specifically.
00:51:42
Speaker
um And then, you know, you think about like AJ Brown and everyone likes to compare him to Randy Moss. I think that's that's a little hyperbolic. Randy Moss. ah I think he's the best pure receiver to ever play the game ah just from his pure speed, size, knowledge of the game standpoint. like it but But here's the thing. If he does like half of what Randy did when he was with the Patriots, maybe a little more than that. But I mean, 23 touchdowns. Right. um The guy was unguardable. and but You couldn't do anything against him. But I do think AJ Brown could have a monster year. I just say it just the ability for i mean, just think of what he did with booty. Right. And booty is, you know, he's he's an above average player at best and and he just elevated booty. So what can he do with AJ Brown?
00:52:29
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um um I've been looking for this. I know, Savage, you've been saying this thing, too, for years. You know, A.J. Brown, since he was in the draft, I was dying to get him. Just like, please draft him. They said he was on a visit. Him and Debra were on a visit. We talked about it a million times. and then and then And then he was available somehow with the Titans because they were not doing great. And I'm like, oh, please, we need this for Tom Brady to keep Tom Brady around. Never happened. And so this is like and years the making for him. But like us as fans that watched him, we were all – there too. And we were all thinking the same thing. So I don't know though. I don't, I gotta have to go look back and see the first time that I said the Patriots need a trade for AJ Brown. Like, I don't know how many years ago that was obviously wanted the player for a long time. um And just happy it became realistic that he kind of shot his way out, I guess, you know, really, I mean, with personal conflicts with the quarterback and clearly was not an on the field issue, but like the Eagles, Eagles are enough of a headache to the Eagles. They want to be done with them. So, you know, it is what it is, but obviously a player that we all have really high expectations for, and I think we'll be, we'll be great. So um yeah, man, we got a couple days this week. We, got Hey, two more days of, of content as they say. And, and then it's kaputs, man. We're going to be scraping the barrel. I'm going I'd have to like go on vacation or something. It's a great time to start a sort of website as soon as nothing happens.
00:53:56
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pumping out articles as no sports are going on. We'll just miserable Red Sox. So, um, all right, well, thanks for tuning in guys. We appreciate it Um, and, uh, yeah, man, we're going to be, I'm going to keep trying to like get the live streams going. Even if we're just shooting the shit, I think it's good to keep consistent and, and obviously we'll be ramping up as, uh, as July, as July comes in, man, and then we'll be off. i' I'm stoked. So, uh, so yeah, we'll catch you guys later. Peace.