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Cassie Keet Interview Scream Therapy
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Welcome to our killer (puns!) interview with the exceptionally talented Cassie Keet, the maestro behind the critically acclaimed film, Scream Therapy. This genre-defying movie has already made waves in the international film circuit, captivating audiences with its unique blend of suspense, emotion, and raw power. Come have a listen as Jim and Keet talk about her bold and innovative filmmaking approach, the importance of a team, and how to use a cardboard cut out to the fullest. All this and more on the next What’s Kraken!
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Introduction to Cassie Keat and 'Scream Therapy'
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Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here, and I cannot wait for this next interview with none other than Scream Therapy's Cassie Keat.
00:00:08
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That is right.
00:00:09
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Scream Therapy is the new hit best, honestly, the best horror comedy I have seen in such a long time.
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I hope you guys can check it out in the theaters, in the screenings, in the big festivals, and oof.
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You got to check it out.
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I don't care where it's playing.
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You got to get there.
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Got to get it now.
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And if you're wanting to see a bit more of Cassie Keet after this interview, go to CassieKeet.com, C-A-S-S-I-E-K-E-E-T.com, and you can thank me later.
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Speaker
All right, hit it.
Exploring 'Scream Therapy': Themes and Influences
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Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here and boy, do we have another exciting episode of what's cracking.
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I have with me none other than Cassie Keat, because I can say the name perfectly.
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I think I said, yeah, yeah, you got it.
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Oh, watch.
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I'll screw this one up of screen therapy.
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I'm too far too.
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You are, you're crushing this.
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Now I have a quick question for everyone who is wondering about screen therapy.
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I've seen it.
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Speaker
This embargo was done, right?
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That's my first question.
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I can, we can talk about it.
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Good, good, good.
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I have a huge question.
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If you have not seen Screen Therapy, A, it's a horror comedy.
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One of the best genres ever.
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B, it's a feminist movie, which we need more of, especially in the horror land.
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It's a true feminist movie, by the way.
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I'll get into more of that in a second.
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But C, yeah, I can count.
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Nick Cage's face here.
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Yes.
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Speaker
What is this?
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Are you guys baiting Nick Cage throughout the entire movie?
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I, I don't, I wouldn't, am I, are we baiting Nicolas Cage?
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Maybe.
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Is it more just me taking the time to say I love Nicolas Cage?
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Absolutely.
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Even, okay, no, you're gonna love this.
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Oh.
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This is how I own this.
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Oh my gosh.
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I love Nicolas Cage.
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It's not a joke for me.
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Like, oh yeah.
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And then when I go like that, he goes away.
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That's so bizarre.
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I want one.
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It's like you healing Nicolas Cage and you're taking him like a healer.
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I love Nicolas Cage.
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I love his movies.
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I love him just as a person.
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I just, I love him.
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he's in a different league.
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There, there was a story.
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I'm not sure where it is anymore, but we knew Nicholas case with someone else that you knew him when he was first starting out.
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And there's a story where they're playing poker and he's like, Hey, who's that on the, this album cover?
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Like whoever the singer was like,
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Oh, man, I want to date her.
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So he calls his agent up, just like randomly seeing people on posters and album covers.
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And that's how he started doing it.
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Like, just tell her I want to meet her.
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And that was it.
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Like, oh, my God, that's like power right there.
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That's confidence.
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That's Nick Cage in a nutshell.
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That's Nick Cage.
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God, I... He brings it 100%.
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I wish I had that just like see someone on a poster and be like, call up the reps.
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I want to take them to dinner.
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Speaker
Take them out right now.
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Speaker
But you know what?
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You've got the confidence that Nick Cage has because I'm watching this movie screen therapy.
Cassie's Early Internet Days and Creative Beginnings
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I watched it three or four times.
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Swear.
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Swear to God.
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Yeah.
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Three or four times.
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I was like, oh my God.
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And it's the.
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I know we're going to review it later on and go on with this, but it's the best movie for comedy people.
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It's the best movie for horror people.
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And especially if you're a horror virgin and you want to like tiptoe into horror, this is the way you get in there.
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It's an awesome movie and it's, okay.
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It's well-casted, well-directed, well-written obviously.
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It makes all the boxes.
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And I have to ask, I'm not going to ask where the movie came from the idea.
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But for the Nick Cage connection, did this have anything to do with his Purple Rain?
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That might be maybe the only Nicolas Cage reference I don't know.
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Did I stump?
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Okay, allegedly there's a video of him doing, I think it's a Prince cover, Purple Rain.
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No.
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And he's screaming.
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And it's making the karaoke, like God's cry.
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He's like, that was my scream therapy.
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No.
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Holy.
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I swear.
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Oh, my God.
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Because I was Googling Nick Cage plus the movie title, and that's what popped up.
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I'm like, oh, my Christ.
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That's – I can't wait to rewatch this later to make sure I didn't say anything insane.
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But then I'll remember to Google that because – Google this now.
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Speaker
I desperately need to watch Nicolas Cage doing –
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Karaoke and calling it.
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And then calling it scream therapy.
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That's amazing.
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What an accidental connection.
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That's wonderful.
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And I love that.
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This is the things I really love when we're just like in the universe, we're picking up the things and there's some things.
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Okay.
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There's some questions I have written down that I must ask.
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And the Nick Cage one was one, and that's awesome.
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Speaker
I need to know, because you said you were an AOL person or were an AOL person somewhere in cyberspace.
Writing Ventures and Inspirations
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Were you a town square person or a places person?
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I was in two major places when I first got to AOL.
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I found the Buffy the Vampire Slayer chat room immediately.
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And that's actually how I started writing is people were doing something called online role playing.
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Right.
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Where like one screen name would be playing Buffy.
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And so Joshma would be like Buffy.
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you know, colon, colon, walks into a bar, into the bronze, colon, colon, hi, Willow.
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And I was like, can I be Willow?
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And they're like, of course.
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So I was like, Willow, colon, colon, waves at Buffy, colon, colon, hi, Buffy.
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And thus a writer was born.
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And I never stopped.
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Speaker
That's amazing.
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That is amazing.
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I love that story.
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Speaker
And there's so many things that the internet, okay, for those of you that grew up with the internet, it used to be text.
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Yeah.
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Like, why are you like talking?
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Like, what's it talking, typing?
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Like, that's what we had to do.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I remember when my home, my house first got the internet and our own computer, it was such a big deal.
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And the first time I got on the internet at my house, I'm pretty sure the first thing I looked up was RogerEbert.com because I was obsessed with Roger Ebert and his movie reviews.
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And then IMDb because I loved movie trivia.
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And the third thing was Amityville murder.
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Yeah.
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And like that perfectly encapsulates.
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I love movies.
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I love trivia.
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I love pop culture references.
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And I love horrifying things that have happened in the past.
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And the coolest thing is back then you had to wait like five minutes for the pictures for the amortical murders to come down.
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Cause like blind.
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I also didn't know they were going to show me the actual photos.
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I was like 11 or 12 just being like, I heard about the Amityville.
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And then it's like,
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Cripsene photo, cripsene photo.
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Here you go.
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Speaker
Download, download.
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Speaker
No.
00:07:39
Speaker
You never knew what you were going to see on the internet.
00:07:42
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I mean, at least now you kind of have some sort of idea, but then it was just a frigging wild west.
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Speaker
Yeah.
00:07:49
Speaker
It was a wild west at a point where, okay, I was on AOL as well.
00:07:53
Speaker
That's how I got to city to city.
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Speaker
You meet people through AOL, right?
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Speaker
I love that.
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Speaker
And back then it was pay by the hour.
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Speaker
You had to pay by the hour.
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Speaker
It went unlimited after this, like whatever per month.
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Speaker
Right.
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Speaker
But allegedly, some people might have been using credit card generators, allegedly.
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Speaker
And they would then, like the first white collar crime for cyber identity theft, AOL.
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Speaker
That's amazing.
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Speaker
Just to check the people, allegedly.
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Speaker
Oh my God.
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Because we can't go to jail.
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I mean, I was a child, so I was living on my parents' dime.
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Speaker
They were paying...
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Speaker
Oh my God, I can't even imagine how many hours I was online.
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Speaker
They would go to bed and I would sneak online to keep writing.
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Speaker
Right.
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Speaker
And that's the thing because it's AOL.
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Speaker
It was coast to coast.
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Speaker
Yeah.
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Speaker
You could hop.
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Speaker
You could hop all the way through.
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Speaker
Yeah.
00:08:44
Speaker
I was in Little Rock, Arkansas, writing with people in frigging Ireland and –
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Speaker
That was the best thing, especially from a small town.
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Speaker
Well, I'm not saying Little Rocks, a small, small town.
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Speaker
But it's not LA.
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Speaker
Yeah.
00:08:58
Speaker
And now you're having more people that have your interest.
00:09:01
Speaker
And you're thinking, oh, I'm not alone in the world.
00:09:03
Speaker
I've got a ton of people in my interest.
00:09:05
Speaker
People like Trevor.
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Speaker
People like Trevor.
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Speaker
I went through Instagram.
00:09:09
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker
Trevor.
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Speaker
You actually said on your Instagram, and I almost quote, if you ever have time asking me about Trevor, I'm
00:09:20
Speaker
Oh my God.
00:09:20
Speaker
So is it like a model or what?
00:09:23
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Okay.
00:09:24
Speaker
Trevor, I've worked so many gigs in my life.
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I like any writing gig I can do, I'll take.
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Right.
00:09:33
Speaker
There was one for this website that was a tie-in website for a novel.
00:09:38
Speaker
That's very confusing.
00:09:40
Speaker
It was like a novel was written and the characters in the novel work at a website.
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So they thought it would be cool to have actual content on this website.
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Speaker
Okay.
00:09:53
Speaker
So I was writing content for a fictional website in a book.
00:10:00
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And this guy, I think, if I remember incorrectly, was the cover model for the book.
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Speaker
What's their marketing budget?
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Speaker
Holy crap.
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I don't know.
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Speaker
Oh my God.
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I don't know if the book ever got released.
00:10:18
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But yeah, I worked for two blogs.
00:10:20
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One was a wedding blog and one was a blog.
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And it was the most insane.
00:10:27
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But yeah, they gave me this guy.
00:10:29
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It is like source inspiration to inspire you.
00:10:35
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Mostly I just like watching people walk by and go, it really scares them.
00:10:42
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It snicks people out.
00:10:43
Speaker
Yeah, I mean...
00:10:45
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That is amazing.
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Honest to God.
00:10:48
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It's the things we keep.
00:10:50
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I'm looking around.
00:10:51
Speaker
My office is basically decorated by other companies.
00:10:55
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I like this one and this one.
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Speaker
It's the stuff that they promotional give away.
00:10:59
Speaker
It's crazy.
00:11:00
Speaker
They just had this dude's face all over the office.
00:11:03
Speaker
What would you use that for?
00:11:04
Speaker
You wouldn't use it for the bookstores.
00:11:06
Speaker
It's way too.
00:11:07
Speaker
They just had them laying around with the popsicle sticks.
00:11:10
Speaker
So I guess people could be like, hi, how's your day going?
00:11:13
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I have no idea.
00:11:14
Speaker
Do you think Trevor's like the cousin of the author?
00:11:17
Speaker
Like seven years now.
00:11:19
Speaker
It's like the Zed car that just won't go away.
00:11:22
Speaker
Okay.
00:11:22
Speaker
So I just like, okay, that was good.
00:11:23
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Now,
00:11:24
Speaker
Boy, I'm cruising around with these questions, all these intricate things.
00:11:30
Speaker
We talked about rice cooking before we started pressing plates.
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah, rice is very hard.
00:11:35
Speaker
Couscous is easier, by the way.
00:11:37
Speaker
Well, I mean, but you saw the video where I messed up the couscous because I accidentally used sugar instead of salt.
00:11:43
Speaker
That was the worst.
00:11:45
Speaker
And I like, I sugared my asparagus and my chicken.
00:11:49
Speaker
So everything caramelized and then mostly like started catching on fire.
00:11:54
Speaker
I want to say that's bad, but I've done the same thing.
00:11:58
Speaker
And it was my own place.
00:12:01
Speaker
I knew it.
00:12:01
Speaker
I knew it was sugar.
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Speaker
I was like, I just forgot.
00:12:03
Speaker
I put that sugar in there.
00:12:04
Speaker
Like, I feel like we should just not be allowed.
00:12:10
Speaker
Into a kitchen unless it's to reheat the Trader Joe's chicken tikka masala or something.
00:12:16
Speaker
Not if I want to burn my house down.
00:12:18
Speaker
Uh-uh.
00:12:21
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Lesson learned of that one.
00:12:22
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Yeah.
00:12:23
Speaker
So we're going through – Boom, boom.
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Screen therapy.
Filming 'Scream Therapy' and Community Involvement
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Speaker
Yeah.
00:12:27
Speaker
Where was the shot location-wise?
00:12:30
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We shot it – Okay.
00:12:32
Speaker
So there's Joshua Tree National Park, which is a desert in California.
00:12:37
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And then there's a town outside of that, which is further into the desert, called 29 Palms.
00:12:44
Speaker
And then –
00:12:45
Speaker
There's a further desert after that.
00:12:49
Speaker
And that's when it's pretty much empty.
00:12:52
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There's just like houses that were put up without regulation a lot of times.
00:12:59
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And that's in Wonder Valley.
00:13:02
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And that's where we shot.
00:13:04
Speaker
And the whole community came out like for the scenes in the bar.
00:13:10
Speaker
Those were all locals.
00:13:12
Speaker
Really?
00:13:13
Speaker
Except for like a couple of actors that we had brought in.
00:13:16
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It was friends of the guy who owned the bar.
00:13:19
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And who let us stay in his house.
00:13:20
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And that man is Kevin Bone.
00:13:22
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And he plays the staring man, the guy with the crossbow.
00:13:26
Speaker
Really?
00:13:27
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Yeah.
00:13:28
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So we hired local talent and I had to work with him because he's the kindest man in the world.
00:13:33
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And he has that very distinct voice.
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It's like very low.
00:13:38
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He's the nicest human in the world.
00:13:41
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I recommend anyone, if you're out in Wonder Valley, go to the Palms Restaurant because it's the only place for like 30 miles.
00:13:50
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You will die without it.
00:13:52
Speaker
You will.
00:13:52
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You have to go.
00:13:53
Speaker
But the prices are insane and they have live music.
00:13:56
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It's only open on the weekends.
00:13:59
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It's incredible.
00:14:00
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It's like a world outside of this world.
00:14:03
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That's so cool because I spend a lot of time in Vegas.
00:14:08
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I'm like, oh my god, that's the desert.
00:14:09
Speaker
I wonder if that's my old desert.
00:14:11
Speaker
It looks like the desert, right?
00:14:13
Speaker
Right.
00:14:14
Speaker
I was talking to someone and she was like, oh yeah, there is a cut through.
00:14:20
Speaker
Maybe not to Vegas, but she's like, people drive through that area to get to.
00:14:27
Speaker
This is not an interesting story because I can't remember where the cut through is to.
00:14:31
Speaker
Never mind.
00:14:32
Speaker
We'll just pretend.
00:14:35
Speaker
But there's always if you're going from Vegas to L.A.
00:14:38
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or Vegas to Salt Lake, it's all the same.
Premiere and Critical Reception of 'Scream Therapy'
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Like, yeah, maybe it was Salt Lake.
00:14:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:43
Speaker
This is your last time.
00:14:45
Speaker
And the water is like 10 bucks for what?
00:14:47
Speaker
The small bottle of water.
00:14:49
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Like, OK, oh, my God, it's like 85 bucks.
00:14:51
Speaker
Like, OK, I get it.
00:14:53
Speaker
You're the last place ever from here.
00:14:55
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200 miles.
00:14:56
Speaker
After our first night, we settled and we weren't filming.
00:15:01
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We were going to film starting the next day.
00:15:04
Speaker
And Kevin was so sweet, but he forgot to tell us that we shouldn't use the water made by the fridge that has an ice maker.
00:15:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:15:15
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He forgot.
00:15:17
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So we were all using that, trying to conserve.
00:15:20
Speaker
We didn't want to use a bunch of water bottles.
00:15:23
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure everyone got sick.
00:15:25
Speaker
But nobody wanted to be like, hey, I've been in the bathroom several times today.
00:15:31
Speaker
Because we're making a movie.
00:15:34
Speaker
It was 109 pages to shoot in 13 days.
00:15:37
Speaker
Really?
00:15:40
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Yeah.
00:15:40
Speaker
There was no time for you to have a tummy issue.
00:15:43
Speaker
It was just like, go, go, go, go.
00:15:45
Speaker
Fuck it up.
00:15:46
Speaker
Get someone else.
00:15:48
Speaker
Use it for your pain and your character's pain.
00:15:50
Speaker
I'll be right back.
00:15:53
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It's really screaming at this point.
00:15:55
Speaker
It's my stomach.
00:15:57
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Oh, yeah.
00:15:58
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And one of our toilets on set broke day one at five in the morning.
00:16:04
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I used the restroom.
00:16:05
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It broke.
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And out loud I said, surely you must be joking.
00:16:10
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And that was the start of filming.
00:16:13
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And it was great.
00:16:15
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It was great.
00:16:15
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It was a challenge and we had a wonderful time.
00:16:19
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It looks like it was a fun time.
00:16:21
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And I'm going to say this.
00:16:25
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If you see Screen Therapy and it's just premiered a couple of days ago, right?
00:16:30
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Premiered last week?
00:16:32
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Yeah, it premiered on Friday the 23rd at Dances with Films, a film festival in Los Angeles.
00:16:40
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And I know there's people who came just to that festival recently.
00:16:44
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I mean, for the festival, just for your movie.
00:16:46
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Yes.
00:16:46
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They even limited that.
00:16:47
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I'm like, oh my God, that's great.
00:16:49
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You know why?
00:16:49
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So would I. I see, we get a lot of PR stuff like, okay, no, no, no, no.
00:16:54
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I saw like feminist screen therapy.
00:16:57
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I'm like,
00:17:01
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It looks such a good idea and such a great premise.
Is 'Mad Max Fury Road' a Feminist Film?
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And it's straightforward.
00:17:07
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It is a horror comedy through and through.
00:17:09
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Somebody says it's more comedy than horror, and I'm fine with that.
00:17:13
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Because you still have the zaniness.
00:17:16
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I won't spoil it, but there is horror elements.
00:17:18
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There's absolutely the horror tropes that go through it.
00:17:21
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Yes.
00:17:23
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I will classify this and I'm so glad without spoiling, I'm so glad it ended the way it ended because I was like, oh my God, no.
00:17:31
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Like, oh my God, that's awesome.
00:17:33
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Through and through.
00:17:34
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Now, my question to you is.
00:17:35
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Yes.
00:17:37
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Mad Max Furiosa, feminist movie or not?
00:17:41
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Mad Max Fury Road or.
00:17:43
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Fury Road, Fury Road.
00:17:45
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Yeah, sorry, my bad.
00:17:46
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Mad Max Fury Road.
00:17:47
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I like, I feel.
00:17:51
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Are we allowed to curse?
00:17:52
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I should have asked that earlier.
00:17:53
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We already had someone breaking our cursing thing, so go for it.
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Knock yourself out.
00:17:58
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Okay.
00:17:59
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I'll add it myself just in case.
00:18:02
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I love Mad Max Fury Road.
00:18:04
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I think Furiosa is a fabulous character.
00:18:07
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And yeah, I would say Mad Max Fury Road is definitely a feminist.
00:18:11
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How?
00:18:11
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Okay.
00:18:11
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Now, I have a co-host that says the same thing.
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So I'm like, okay.
00:18:17
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But at the end of the movie, Tom Hardy literally has to give his blood to save the woman.
00:18:22
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How is that feminism?
00:18:24
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Well, I don't think – Spoiler alert.
00:18:26
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Sorry.
00:18:27
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No.
00:18:27
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I don't think having something be feminist means that men can't be useful or heroic.
00:18:37
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Yeah, like a feminist movie or even just like being a feminist is the idea that women are equals.
00:18:45
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So it's not misandry.
00:18:47
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It's not we hate men.
00:18:48
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It's I'm working just as hard as you and I deserve to be treated the same way that you are.
00:18:55
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It's your sake.
00:18:57
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Yeah.
00:18:57
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Yeah.
00:18:57
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So I think like –
00:18:59
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Tom Hardy being of service and being like sacrificial and helping is not like, and now the dude comes in to save it because he would not have gotten anywhere near that far without Furiosa and all the other women.
00:19:16
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There you go.
00:19:17
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Yeah.
00:19:17
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So that's the first answer that makes me go.
00:19:20
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Yes.
00:19:21
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:22
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This movie, because he treats these women like people and like his equals after he warms up, because mostly he's just a grunting, you know, animal trapped to the front of a car.
00:19:34
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For most of the movie.
00:19:36
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Yes.
00:19:36
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He's more like the hood owner.
00:19:38
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You know, he's dealing with a lot, but now the feminist movie, because it treats women like,
00:19:45
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It shows how horribly women are treated and then it shows women coming together to protect each other, which is also what Scream Therapy kind of is about.
00:19:54
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Not even kind of.
00:19:55
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For me, I mean, either person made it, so you should have a better.
00:19:59
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No, I mean, it definitely like it is about female friendship and supporting each other a thousand percent.
00:20:07
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And it's about.
00:20:09
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I'm not going to spoil it too much if I say the antagonists are a bunch of incels, right?
00:20:16
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No, I mean, that's in the description.
00:20:17
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That's like the tagline.
00:20:18
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I think that's the description.
00:20:20
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Yeah.
00:20:21
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When you're doing that, I was like, oh my God, this is the perfect movie for right now.
00:20:25
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This is where it's going.
00:20:27
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That's how I felt when I was writing it.
00:20:30
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I was so angry by so much of the stuff that I was seeing online and just like,
00:20:36
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Roe v Wade is gone and like all this, all this shit is happening.
00:20:42
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And Scream Therapy was my way of like, my screaming was into the script.
00:20:49
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It helped me sort of get through some of my own anger and frustration and mostly just my desire to be around creative people and like women who I love.
00:21:00
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And off to the desert we went and I like, it gave us all this huge,
00:21:05
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release an outlet just to be with each other and feel supported.
00:21:09
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It might be a bit therapeutic.
00:21:11
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I think you hit the head on that one.
00:21:13
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And this brings
Comedy Career and Online Reactions
00:21:14
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me up my next question.
00:21:14
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Whoa, man.
00:21:17
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That's the improv troupe of Hollywood, right?
00:21:20
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Yeah, I, um, uh, it's woman is a sketch comedy group.
00:21:24
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We were pre pre pandemic.
00:21:27
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We were doing shows once a month for like more than a year.
00:21:33
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And yeah, we ended up like we got representation and then we had these producers attached and we started pitching to all the huge like studios like Amazon and Netflix and then the pandemic hit.
00:21:46
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Pandemic hit.
00:21:47
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Okay.
00:21:49
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Yes, that sounds slightly familiar.
00:21:52
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As it, you know, it happens.
00:21:55
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That's life in Hollywood.
00:21:57
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Right.
00:21:59
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You have a bird in a hand.
00:22:02
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And, you know, you never know what's going to happen.
00:22:05
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You just have to be adaptable.
00:22:07
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But even though that, I do think...
00:22:11
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Woolman still has legs.
00:22:14
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Obviously the pandemic has to play out the way it does or not.
00:22:16
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For sure.
00:22:17
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But I've been watching it on, I think there's a YouTube channel on it.
00:22:23
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I think so.
00:22:25
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Wow.
00:22:26
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If you guys haven't checked it out, you guys need to check this out.
00:22:29
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It's the Woolman.
00:22:30
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W-H-O-A-M-A-N.
00:22:32
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Yes.
00:22:34
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It is hysterical.
00:22:35
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It's actually really funny.
00:22:36
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I mean, I was like, oh my God, it's like a surprise.
00:22:39
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But for an unknown outside of Hollywood and you're still getting that momentum going, you can see why.
00:22:50
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Because there's some, I was laughing my butt off watching these.
00:22:55
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We had a top one.
00:22:58
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It's an amazing, it's an amazing venture.
00:23:01
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And it is topical.
00:23:03
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It's not dated humor.
00:23:06
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It's stuff that's current.
00:23:07
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Even now, you know, you said you taped some of these before the pandemic.
00:23:11
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It still fits.
00:23:12
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It's what people are going through now, not like.
00:23:15
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Absolutely.
00:23:16
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Yeah.
00:23:16
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That, you know, when you're when you're doing comedy, the goal is to try and make something evergreen so that, you know, we've we filmed this, you know, this sketch in 2019.
00:23:27
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But if someone like you are something onto it in 2023, then you're still going to be like, oh, yeah, no, that that makes sense.
00:23:37
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It connects.
00:23:38
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It connects.
00:23:38
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And that's the same humor you use.
00:23:40
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Yeah.
00:23:40
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That's the same humor I see in, in screen therapy.
00:23:42
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It connects.
00:23:43
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Like, Oh my God.
00:23:44
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Like, Oh my God.
00:23:45
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Like, Oh, and, and sad, sad, but true is like a lot of times like totally that one guy.
00:23:52
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Okay.
00:23:54
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Okay.
00:23:54
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Now I know I should not do that.
00:23:56
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I've got it.
00:23:57
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Yep.
00:23:58
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Yep.
00:23:58
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It's like a small little hint.
00:23:59
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It's like, God, don't be that character.
00:24:01
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Yeah.
00:24:04
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Right.
00:24:04
Speaker
Now, have you ever thought about going out for like SNL?
00:24:09
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I I've submitted a writing packet to SNL a couple of times.
00:24:16
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I but God, I would love to be on that writing team or like a featured player.
00:24:23
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I yeah, I absolutely love SNL.
00:24:26
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It's it's one of the hardest auditions to get, though.
00:24:29
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You have to there's so many hoops to jump through.
00:24:33
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And like I haven't even tried to do the acting audition because like
00:24:38
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God only knows how you can get through so many steps just to get – I think you have to have recommendations or you have to know somebody.
00:24:50
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And a lot of them come straight from UCB and the Groundlings and stuff like that, which is all – they're all incredibly talented people.
00:24:57
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I just have never really been able to wrap my head around how to even get in front of –
00:25:04
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like someone like Lauren Michaels.
00:25:08
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Yeah, I was watching these.
00:25:12
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I'm like, you know, I think that's... I didn't know you guys had some options for the show itself.
00:25:18
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Then I was like, you know what?
00:25:19
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SNL, I think that's the next step.
00:25:20
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Honest to gosh.
00:25:22
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I think even if it's...
00:25:26
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Maybe, okay, hear me out.
00:25:27
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This is me brainstorming.
00:25:28
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I have too much caffeine.
00:25:29
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I don't know.
00:25:30
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Maybe it is the total package and almost like the small video clips, little video shorts.
00:25:38
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We're like, we need like five minutes of time to fill.
00:25:39
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Here is a three-minute video short.
00:25:41
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Maybe that's the way in too.
00:25:42
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I don't know.
00:25:43
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I don't know.
00:25:43
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I'm not the agent.
00:25:44
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Yeah.
00:25:45
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I mean, my manager app actually represents the dudes who are in Please Don't Destroy.
00:25:51
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Yeah.
00:25:52
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who are currently doing the five minute SNL shorts.
00:25:57
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Because I'm watching your videos.
00:25:59
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Yeah.
00:26:00
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And I'm like, my God, that'd be perfect.
00:26:02
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That'd be, it'd be absolutely perfect for it.
00:26:04
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And we never know.
00:26:05
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Now I'm going to ask you two more questions if you don't mind.
00:26:08
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No, my gosh.
00:26:08
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Thank you so much for going on the overtime in this with me.
00:26:11
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Oh, I'm having a great time.
00:26:13
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I mean, you and me and Trevor, we're just.
00:26:15
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Yeah.
00:26:16
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Trevor just scared me.
00:26:17
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I swear to God.
00:26:18
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Look, there's someone behind you.
00:26:19
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Yeah.
00:26:24
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Now we talked about your movie, which is going to be, it is not going to be, it is Scream Therapy.
00:26:31
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Yeah.
00:26:33
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Have you gotten streaming location for your movies?
00:26:36
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I know it's still in the theaters.
00:26:37
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I know this is way early to talk about it.
00:26:39
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Yeah.
00:26:41
Speaker
We have had a few offers for distribution, which is very exciting.
00:26:48
Speaker
But we are still waiting to hear from a lot of the genre film festivals that are happening at the end of the year.
00:26:54
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the bigger genre festivals always happen in the fall.
00:26:58
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Yeah.
00:26:59
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So the goal, you know, if I were queen of the world and I could get whatever I want, the goal would be to get into at least one
00:27:07
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maybe two more festivals in the fall and then leverage that into getting the best possible distribution deal.
00:27:14
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It's smart.
00:27:16
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But I mean, thanks.
00:27:17
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Yeah.
00:27:18
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It's a great idea.
00:27:22
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I'm like, do you get as much?
00:27:24
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I figured to clean up.
00:27:25
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You were going to clean up on those festivals.
00:27:27
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I wait, we what?
00:27:28
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I'm sorry.
00:27:29
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You will clean up on those festivals.
00:27:30
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You absolutely will.
00:27:32
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I certainly, I certainly hope so.
00:27:34
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Yeah.
00:27:34
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But even if we don't get into any more film festivals because things are so competitive,
00:27:40
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then we'll just go out with sales reps or just look at the distribution offers we already have.
00:27:48
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This is my first feature, so I'm very new to this side of the business of trying to sell something you've already made instead of being in the room and pitching something that you want to make, like a TV show.
00:28:06
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So this is...
00:28:09
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Thank God I have an incredibly talented group, team of producers.
00:28:15
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And we have a wonderful PR person, Melanie, who's out here saving lives, putting out fires every day.
00:28:23
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She was great.
00:28:24
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Melanie is incredible.
00:28:26
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Absolutely.
00:28:27
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On the ball.
00:28:28
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It was awesome to see.
00:28:28
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I was like, okay, I probably shouldn't say this out loud.
00:28:32
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Do it.
00:28:34
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Okay.
00:28:34
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For people that don't know, if you are like a –
00:28:38
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Welcome to the haunted MPL.
00:28:39
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We got like, I don't know, 5,000 people.
00:28:41
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I don't know.
00:28:42
Speaker
But Melanie treats you like you're a superstar no matter how big the outlet is.
00:28:47
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And if I gave Melanie like an email over the week, I thought like there's no way in hell I'm getting an answer back before Monday.
00:28:54
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Five minutes later, I'm like, damn.
00:28:57
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She's on top of it.
00:28:58
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Yeah, that's wow.
00:29:00
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Like absolute superstar right there.
00:29:03
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She's been working really hard for us and we're very grateful.
00:29:08
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It's an amazing combination.
00:29:09
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And I think a lot of good things are going to happen.
00:29:11
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And I have to have, there's one question I do.
00:29:15
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I wrote this down.
00:29:16
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I must ask.
00:29:17
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Now, do you want to be angry or do you want me to ask you a question?
00:29:21
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This will make you kind of go, yeah.
00:29:22
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Yeah.
00:29:24
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Oh God, I don't know.
00:29:27
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Both.
00:29:28
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Okay.
00:29:29
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Yeah.
00:29:30
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Because I have to, I ask questions because honestly, God, I want to know.
00:29:34
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There's no setups.
00:29:36
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During my research, I saw the YouTube channel and I saw this guy comment.
00:29:43
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They know I'm going now.
00:29:44
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I saw this guy comment.
00:29:45
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He was like, seeing five women made me think, well, this isn't going to be funny.
00:29:50
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I'm like, why the fuck would you – now I get this for her.
00:29:53
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Like why would you write this fucking comment?
00:29:55
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We have laughed about that comment.
00:29:57
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So you know what – okay, yeah.
00:29:59
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Yes, because there – I don't know.
00:30:02
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There's something about like – I feel like some dudes recently evolved from swamp fungus.
00:30:11
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Like just grew the arms and legs.
00:30:15
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They just became bipedal.
00:30:17
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Their brain is just forming.
00:30:18
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And they're like, I know what I should do.
00:30:21
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I should just make a comment that no one should make.
00:30:26
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But like, yeah, when dudes are like, I thought because I saw five women in a video, it wasn't going to be funny.
00:30:35
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Boy, was I surprised.
00:30:37
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They have good editing.
00:30:39
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Thanks.
00:30:42
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Thank you?
00:30:43
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I know.
00:30:44
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You know what he just as easily could have done?
00:30:48
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He just as easily could have not written anything and just, you know, just enjoyed it.
00:30:56
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Just watch the fucking video.
00:30:58
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You don't have to say, hey, I'm surprised that you're talented.
00:31:03
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Like you're negging us in our video that is fantastically done.
00:31:09
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Good Lord.
00:31:09
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Yeah.
00:31:10
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That, okay.
00:31:11
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Part of the reason I asked because I see stuff like this and it drives me batshit crazy.
00:31:16
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And so I see how.
00:31:18
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To me on a, on a first date only date, he's like, I made a joke and he goes, wow.
00:31:27
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Has anyone ever told you that you're funny?
00:31:32
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I'm like, I certainly hope so because I'm literally a paid comedy writer.
00:31:38
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I know.
00:31:39
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Like, you think you're the first person who has ever had this thought?
00:31:45
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Trevor would never do this.
00:31:47
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Trevor lives on my fridge.
00:31:49
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Trevor, see, Trevor knows.
00:31:52
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Trevor, not to say dumb shit.
00:31:55
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He's the handsome dude, though.
00:31:56
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That's the weirdest thing about Trevor.
00:31:57
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I'm going to have a dream about Trevor later on tonight.
00:32:00
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I'm like, who is Trevor?
00:32:02
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I have a cardboard smoke show who lives on my fridge.
00:32:07
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It's weird, but I can't let him go.
00:32:11
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I can't.
00:32:13
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The funniest thing is it's on a stick.
00:32:15
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I did not know it was on a popsicle stick.
00:32:19
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Yeah, it's easier to sneak up on people and be like, what's up?
00:32:24
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Plus, someone had a cookie.
00:32:26
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I get it.
00:32:26
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They print out the head, right?
00:32:27
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So they had to cut the head in that shape, like cut out all the white part.
00:32:31
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Yeah.
00:32:32
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And then glue it to a stick.
00:32:34
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Yeah.
00:32:34
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And they like really followed his hairline.
00:32:36
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It's pretty amazing.
00:32:40
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It's amazing.
00:32:41
Speaker
And that just, not just once.
00:32:43
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You said there's like a lot of those.
00:32:46
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There were several on a table and I just went, can I have this?
00:32:50
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I'm having this.
00:32:52
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Someone got paid to do this.
00:32:54
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That's the most amazing.
00:32:56
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Yeah.
00:32:56
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I don't know.
00:32:57
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There were a lot of interns at this.
00:32:59
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Okay.
00:32:59
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Yeah.
00:33:00
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I forgot the States.
00:33:01
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Yeah.
00:33:01
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Yeah.
00:33:01
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I don't think any of you are being paid at all.
00:33:06
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Yikes.
00:33:07
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Now speaking about being paid, what's your favorite hardcore horror movie?
Cassie's Favorite Horror Films
00:33:13
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Favorite hardcore horror movie.
00:33:16
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I mean, I grew up watching like horror comedies like Scream and Jennifer's Body came out when I was in, I think, high school.
00:33:26
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I freaking loved Jennifer's Body.
00:33:28
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But like hardcore horror, I mean, you've got to go with OG Evil Dead.
00:33:37
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Gosh, Halloween, The Exorcist.
00:33:42
Speaker
Oh, and then-
00:33:43
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Newer stuff, like The Strangers, just ruined my whole night.
00:33:48
Speaker
I think Funny.
00:33:49
Speaker
I wanted to see them so fast.
00:33:50
Speaker
As a horror movie.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:54
Speaker
It's like, I love a good horrifying horror movie.
00:33:58
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And then I love a good, you know, horror comedy.
00:34:03
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And I think having that balance in your life is, like, I freaking love the remake of Last House on the Left.
00:34:10
Speaker
But I can't watch that
00:34:12
Speaker
Whenever, you know, like throw scream on while I'm, you know, working out or.
00:34:19
Speaker
That's the thing is like horror comedy has this.
00:34:22
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I love comedy.
00:34:23
Speaker
I love horror.
00:34:23
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So I'm the same way.
00:34:24
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Like if you combine the two, that's the best genre ever.
00:34:27
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Absolutely.
00:34:28
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And screen therapy does that so bloody well.
00:34:32
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And that's what I was trying to think.
00:34:33
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Because I know you like it's the horror part.
00:34:37
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And there is a horror aspect of screen therapy.
00:34:40
Speaker
100% there is.
00:34:41
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:34:43
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And there's the comedic aspect.
00:34:45
Speaker
and they work together so well, it becomes interesting right away.
00:34:50
Speaker
I think that's where a lot of the pure, pure horror movies, it takes a while to burn in.
00:34:54
Speaker
The pure, pure comedy movies takes a while to burn in.
00:34:56
Speaker
But the horror comedy, you can get people interested in it because you know something's going to happen.
00:35:01
Speaker
Right.
00:35:02
Speaker
Like something horrible is probably going to happen.
00:35:04
Speaker
And yet you're so invested in the characters.
00:35:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:08
Speaker
Like for the first shot at the, you know, the Tiki bar, really.
00:35:12
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It was actually more of a pool bar.
00:35:13
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Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:14
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I wanted to really take my time in the first like 15, 20 minutes so that you actually care about the characters.
00:35:23
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Thank you.
00:35:24
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Yeah, because otherwise, like, you'd probably be rooting for the incels, you know?
00:35:29
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But, like, to see the women loving each other, supporting each other, you see how funny and full of life they are.
00:35:35
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You don't want them to die.
00:35:38
Speaker
You want them to win.
00:35:40
Speaker
And so that first 20 minutes, it helps you invest.
00:35:44
Speaker
And then the rest of the movie goes, pew!
00:35:47
Speaker
And you are off to braces.
00:35:49
Speaker
That's why I've watched it so many times.
00:35:51
Speaker
There's movies I won't name because I don't want to, like...
00:35:55
Speaker
Reviews, reviews, yeah.
00:35:58
Speaker
I couldn't figure out like this one dude died.
00:36:01
Speaker
No, no, the other dude.
00:36:02
Speaker
No, no, the dude that looks like from 90210.
00:36:03
Speaker
No, no, the other, other dude who looks like, they all look like, I'm like, huh?
00:36:07
Speaker
All the guys looked, I have no investment.
00:36:10
Speaker
They all look like they spent years like doing nothing at all.
00:36:14
Speaker
And all of a sudden are dying one by one.
00:36:16
Speaker
So I was like, what cares?
00:36:18
Speaker
But here we see something that's going to be immediately investment.
00:36:22
Speaker
There's a problem stated right in the beginning.
00:36:25
Speaker
There's character growth that happens.
00:36:27
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:36:28
Speaker
almost immediately character growth it's and the scenes the timing is perfect for these these scenes are perfectly timed they really are you look that's i'm not going to try to give too much away i'm trying to see much later
Crafting 'Scream Therapy': Editing and Conclusion
00:36:41
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the minute from the the marriage thing and guys there's always that like you've been together how long i think marriage is good you don't ever say that to people and that's that's all things like you never did it
00:36:56
Speaker
And then the finding them on the sofa.
00:36:59
Speaker
Like, where's this thing?
00:37:00
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And it's like, boom.
00:37:01
Speaker
It's like, brilliant.
00:37:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:04
Speaker
A lot of these beat shifts were written into the script.
00:37:10
Speaker
And then, you know, I wanted the quick cut.
00:37:13
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I wanted this to be the reveal.
00:37:16
Speaker
But then other things, I was bored.
00:37:20
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blessed to work with an incredible editor named Justin Rieger.
00:37:25
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And we, he was able to find so many, like his cutting to reactions.
00:37:32
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He is an incredible, incredible editor because he understands horror where you have to like, let things slow down and play out.
00:37:42
Speaker
Right.
00:37:42
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Hold the tension.
00:37:44
Speaker
And he understands comedy where you have to like,
00:37:46
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Da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da.
00:37:48
Speaker
So him putting together and then without giving away too much movie, the last 20 minutes, we sort of go through like four or five different genres.
00:38:00
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in quick succession of this to that, to that, to that.
00:38:04
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And you have to know how to edit for every single different genre.
00:38:09
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And our editing sessions would be like, he'd be like, oh my God, it's another genre, Cassie.
00:38:15
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And he's like, oh, and like, you know, edit this way, edit this way.
00:38:20
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And it took so much collaboration.
00:38:23
Speaker
But he's a genius.
00:38:24
Speaker
It came out ridiculously well.
00:38:26
Speaker
There are times where...
00:38:29
Speaker
Okay.
00:38:29
Speaker
There's times when we review movies and people are unfair to actors or writers, directors, and a lot of the editing would be botched.
00:38:37
Speaker
And that was really what's wrong.
00:38:39
Speaker
Some movies just drop on editing.
00:38:41
Speaker
And we were saying about this, like, yeah, that's tremendously hard skill, especially if you're mixing genres.
00:38:46
Speaker
But they're different time.
00:38:47
Speaker
It's different timings.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker
And to have the eyes.
00:38:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:51
Speaker
It's amazing.
00:38:53
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Yeah, it's different with our composer who –
00:38:56
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I mean, the most work he had to do was for the last 20 minutes.
00:39:00
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And so he's composing different music for different genres in a way.
00:39:05
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And like the collaboration from from everyone in our post team was like a dream come true.
00:39:12
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Can't wait to work with them again.
00:39:15
Speaker
I hope there's a sequel.
00:39:18
Speaker
Would there be a sequel?
00:39:19
Speaker
I don't know.
00:39:21
Speaker
Someone was talking about doing like a Dylan and Nora spinoff.
00:39:28
Speaker
Like they go off on an adventure.
00:39:33
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We'll see.
00:39:33
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We shall see if I do a sequel.
00:39:36
Speaker
I would need for lightning to strike to have a really good reason.
00:39:43
Speaker
Because I like where we leave them off.
00:39:46
Speaker
And it's like, do I want to mess with the ending of this movie?
00:39:50
Speaker
I don't know.
00:39:50
Speaker
I'll think about it.
00:39:51
Speaker
That's one of the things I will mention in my review because my review has some spoilers in it.
00:40:00
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Some, not all.
00:40:01
Speaker
That's okay.
00:40:02
Speaker
The ending fits.
00:40:03
Speaker
Like a lot of times, you're a writer.
00:40:05
Speaker
So, you know, sometimes you miss the beginning.
00:40:08
Speaker
Like you have like 12 pages, like actually it starts on page 12.
00:40:12
Speaker
Right.
00:40:12
Speaker
Cut the other 12 pages out.
00:40:13
Speaker
Save for somebody else.
00:40:14
Speaker
And sometimes you miss the ending and like people keep going, you know, like 12 other thousand pages long.
00:40:19
Speaker
Like, no, no, actually the ending was on page 15.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:22
Speaker
Son of a bitch.
00:40:23
Speaker
But your movie, like it jazz hands on this.
00:40:27
Speaker
Jazz hands on the ending.
00:40:29
Speaker
Jazz hands on the ending like, oh my God, it fits.
00:40:32
Speaker
And you're like, okay, credit roll.
00:40:35
Speaker
Yes, perfect.
00:40:36
Speaker
Yes, it's very much like, this is the story I wanted to tell.
00:40:40
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I'm going to tell it in as efficient way as possible.
00:40:44
Speaker
I want it to move quickly.
00:40:45
Speaker
It's only 79 minutes and 10 seconds.
00:40:48
Speaker
It's all tight.
00:40:49
Speaker
Nothing wasted.
00:40:51
Speaker
Tight, tight.
00:40:55
Speaker
Keep it moving.
00:40:56
Speaker
So even if you don't like the movie, you've only kissed 79 minutes of your life goodbye.
00:41:02
Speaker
And if you don't like scream therapy, there's something wrong with you.
00:41:05
Speaker
You should be out with Nick Cage screaming at purple rain, top of your lungs.
00:41:09
Speaker
And if you do like the movie, then you can just watch it again because it's only 79 minutes.
00:41:13
Speaker
So, you know.
00:41:14
Speaker
I swear.
00:41:15
Speaker
I don't even remember how many times I watched it over the weekend.
00:41:18
Speaker
I was like, oh.
00:41:19
Speaker
I love that.
00:41:20
Speaker
This is awesome.
00:41:20
Speaker
This is awesome.
00:41:21
Speaker
That's huge.
00:41:22
Speaker
I appreciate that.
00:41:24
Speaker
Now, I know you have a website, CassieKee.com.
00:41:28
Speaker
Jesus, I can't spell your name.
00:41:29
Speaker
You're doing great.
00:41:30
Speaker
It's right in front of me.
00:41:31
Speaker
C-A-S-S-I-E in three different places.
00:41:34
Speaker
K-E-E-T.
00:41:35
Speaker
That's where I'm dyslexic.
00:41:36
Speaker
So the K went this way.
00:41:37
Speaker
Dot com.
00:41:38
Speaker
I do it all the time.
00:41:39
Speaker
And what else?
00:41:41
Speaker
I mean, you have Instagram.
00:41:42
Speaker
You have Instagram.
00:41:43
Speaker
You have the... Yes.
00:41:45
Speaker
I'm just noticing I have like mascara under my eye.
00:41:48
Speaker
That's attractive.
00:41:48
Speaker
Anyway.
00:41:48
Speaker
This is permanent black.
00:41:51
Speaker
Okay.
00:41:52
Speaker
Like I have a little bit of mascara.
00:41:53
Speaker
I'm like, I can't get rid of this.
00:41:54
Speaker
No, you look great.
00:41:55
Speaker
You look great.
00:41:55
Speaker
This is called the 90s for me.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah, you've got like, you've got light coming in from in front.
00:42:01
Speaker
I got front lighting today.
00:42:03
Speaker
This is like a bizarre.
00:42:05
Speaker
It's great.
00:42:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker
No, you're absolutely fine.
00:42:09
Speaker
It's like, you're just like, you play like, there's this one small speck right here.
00:42:14
Speaker
I'm like, have you seen one?
00:42:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:18
Speaker
Okay.
00:42:18
Speaker
Um, so plugging wise, whatever the place that you're going, what do you want to do with this?
00:42:25
Speaker
Um, well, hopefully, uh, hopefully we'll see you at a genre festival near you.
00:42:31
Speaker
Um, and then after that, hoping to be distributed online.
00:42:35
Speaker
Uh, otherwise you, I'm, I'm just, uh, gosh, if I were queen of the world, I would be filming another movie within like four months from now.
00:42:46
Speaker
I, so if anyone has money that they just want to give me, that would be fantastic.
00:42:50
Speaker
Um, yeah.
00:42:52
Speaker
Maybe.
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:54
Speaker
That's the whole.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:57
Speaker
Honestly, maybe.
00:42:59
Speaker
And there's the thing, like, if you can, if you can imagine it, I've seen a movie done on two iPhones.
00:43:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:43:06
Speaker
And I thought they were full of shit, but that's really like, oh, my God, you really did have two iPhones.
00:43:10
Speaker
I mean, the Florida Project was shot on an iPhone, the Mark Duplass produced movie.
00:43:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:18
Speaker
And it's amazing.
00:43:20
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:43:20
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:43:22
Speaker
And your movie is fantastic.
00:43:25
Speaker
Location-wise, it was minimal.
00:43:28
Speaker
Acting was... I mean, these are always these... I love... That's why I love horror comedy.
00:43:32
Speaker
I love horror because you can do a lot.
00:43:35
Speaker
with just the right energy and the right talent with the right energy plus a bunch of talent.
00:43:40
Speaker
But yeah, but I mean, when you have a cast and crew who is like incredibly good at their jobs and happy to be there and ready to work and ready to have fun.
00:43:54
Speaker
And I, you know, if we keep calling it summer camp, the movie, because.
00:43:58
Speaker
Ready to break the toilet the first day.
00:44:00
Speaker
Exactly.
00:44:01
Speaker
Drinking poison water.
00:44:03
Speaker
All good.
00:44:03
Speaker
Drinking poison water and then getting in the hot tub until 2.30 in the morning.
00:44:08
Speaker
Oh, and making the call at 5?
00:44:11
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:44:12
Speaker
We had night shoots and day shoots.
00:44:16
Speaker
It was like a mixture.
00:44:17
Speaker
Oh, no.
00:44:18
Speaker
We spent more time.
00:44:21
Speaker
You would think after shooting for like 10 hours, we would want to just not see each other and just be like, please don't talk to me.
00:44:28
Speaker
But every night we were hanging out, drinking, playing games, playing like dancing and singing.
00:44:34
Speaker
It was, it was.
00:44:35
Speaker
It came across.
00:44:37
Speaker
It came across in the movie.
00:44:38
Speaker
Thank you.
00:44:38
Speaker
I appreciate that.
00:44:39
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:44:40
Speaker
It seemed like the real actual group of friends hanging out to the fact I was looking everyone up in your movie to make sure they weren't like part of old man or some other group.
00:44:48
Speaker
Cause it looked like the guy had been together forever.
00:44:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:52
Speaker
Mandy and Claire, we were all the three of us were woman members and they played Dylan and Nora.
00:45:00
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And then our other three actresses, Jerry Courtney Osteen and Harley Bronwyn and Rochelle Anderson knew each other and like in our friends.
00:45:11
Speaker
And so the five of us just hanging out, we were all familiar with each other.
00:45:16
Speaker
But then being like, oh, cool.
00:45:18
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We're five best friends.
00:45:19
Speaker
Fantastic.
00:45:19
Speaker
Let's move.
00:45:21
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That's what I love.
00:45:22
Speaker
And that's why I really love screen therapy.
00:45:25
Speaker
Not only is it a great solid, like you said, it's under 90, right?
00:45:29
Speaker
So.
00:45:30
Speaker
79, buddy.
00:45:31
Speaker
Dude, it's no longer the three or four hour movies.
00:45:34
Speaker
Ah, but now I'm just going to kill my butt.
00:45:36
Speaker
Oh, kill my butt, but I'm going to love it.
00:45:38
Speaker
Hopefully.
00:45:39
Speaker
Hopefully.
00:45:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:41
Speaker
Well, yeah.
00:45:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:42
Speaker
But In-N-Out, I love it.
00:45:45
Speaker
You know, it's the same.
00:45:46
Speaker
It's the same length if you watch Barbie twice.
00:45:50
Speaker
I did not know that.
00:45:53
Speaker
I was kind of scared.
00:45:53
Speaker
I'm like, I didn't even know that.
00:45:55
Speaker
It's weird.
00:45:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:56
Speaker
But for screen therapy, once it comes, let us know.
00:45:59
Speaker
Drop us a line.
00:46:00
Speaker
We want all the awards for screen therapy.
00:46:02
Speaker
And if screen therapy is not in your movie theaters, you better bang on those doors and get it.
00:46:09
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:12
Speaker
Keep an eye out and hopefully we'll be able to be releasing it to the wide public.
00:46:18
Speaker
The whole wide world.
00:46:20
Speaker
I look forward to it.
00:46:22
Speaker
I just want to say thank you very much, Cassie, for your time.
00:46:24
Speaker
Thank you so much for having me.
00:46:26
Speaker
It went over only by half hour.
00:46:28
Speaker
Oh, perfect.
00:46:29
Speaker
Only by half hour.
00:46:30
Speaker
Trevor, thank you for making up.
00:46:34
Speaker
You're welcome, Jeff.
00:46:35
Speaker
Sorry.