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Dogma (25th Anniversary) Breakdown: Faith, Redemption & Comedy Chaos | Streamin’ Demons

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 In this episode of Streamin’ Demons, Jo and Amelie go full-on divine as they resurrect Dogma for its 25th anniversary. They deep-dive into the Kevin Smith classic’s brand-new 4K remaster—marveling at the fresh visuals, crisp sound, and how shockingly well it holds up in 2025. But this episode isn’t just about pretty pixels.

They get personal, reflecting on what it meant to first see Dogma—whether in a theater seat in 1999 or on a scratched DVD in Australia. There’s a whole lotta love (and a little rage) for the lost era of physical media, with Jo and Amelie going head-to-head on whether streaming can ever compare to the raw ownership of a shelf full of discs.

From Alan Rickman’s divine delivery to Bethany’s gut-punch story of faith, loss, and reproductive rights, this one’s packed with sharp takes, laugh-out-loud moments, and plenty of righteous indignation. They talk cancel culture, translation woes, and why Dogma still hits hard—especially when religion, politics, and comedy are constantly under fire.

💿 Whether you're Team DVD or Team Stream, this one’s for the cult movie lovers, the spiritual skeptics, and anyone who’s ever thought, “Wait… didn't Snape have a penis?”

🎟️ Dogma is back in theaters (UK & Ireland) on November 7th—and this episode is your front-row warm-up.

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KEY MOMENTS

  • Opening riff – Jo & Amelie set the tone by joking about the film’s 25‑year “resurrection” and their DVD memories.
  • Restoration reveal – They dive into how the new 4K remaster hits, how young the actors look, and what that timing means.
  • DVD vs streaming culture – A nostalgic segment on owning physical media vs streaming and why that matters.
  • Big theme drop – They unpack how Dogma tackles religion, belief, women's issues (Bethany’s story) and cancel culture.
  • Cultural translation fun – Amelie recounts her experience watching movies dubbed vs original language, accents and meaning lost/found.
  • Why it still works – They push the idea that the film holds up today, and why introducing it to new audiences matters.
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Transcript

Intro

00:00:07
Jo
Hey everyone, Joe and Amelie here for Streaming Demons again and again and again and again. Today's, we got a movie we already watched before. We're watching it today because it is none other than the 25th resurrection of, like no wait, the 25th anniversary dogma resurrection.
00:00:25
Jo
There you go. Sorry, the erection part caught him. Blows me away. So it was a weird to do because we've seen this movie before I've seen in the theaters because that's how old I am You saw it in a DVD hack DVD, probably in Australia.
00:00:41
Amelie
Oh no, it's not an ARC DVD actually, it's a real DVD.
00:00:45
Jo
Oh, can't for this shit.
00:00:46
Amelie
Yeah, we haven't a sort of conversation with the Australian because i was in Australia at that time. um I came from a generation when every Friday night we would go to the DVD place, rent a DVD and, you know, watch the DVD in family.
00:00:59
Jo
Right.
00:01:02
Amelie
And a lot of old millennials, so people who were born in the 80s, not like me, like in the 90s, would buy a lot of DVDs and spend the afternoon watching DVDs, you know, eating popcorn and stuff like they would have film afternoon.
00:01:12
Jo
Yeah.
00:01:17
Amelie
And we, as a generation, especially mine, we are now having Netflix and we download everything on the internet.
00:01:27
Amelie
We go less and less to the cinema.
00:01:29
Jo
Streaming demon.
00:01:30
Amelie
And the thing is, when you have fuck ton of DVDs, like a room full of DVDs, is it better to watch a DVD or to download?
00:01:30
Jo
Yeah.
00:01:42
Amelie
And a lot of my friends... We're like, wait, when you download, there is censorship. But when you have the DVDs, this is it. You have the DVD. Nobody's coming to your house to grab the DVD and change everything.
00:01:55
Amelie
You have the masterpiece. Like you have the piece.
00:01:57
Jo
Yeah.
00:01:58
Amelie
You know what I mean?
00:01:58
Jo
And you actually own it.
00:01:58
Amelie
It's yours.
00:02:00
Amelie
Yeah.
00:02:00
Jo
Yeah.
00:02:00
Jo
There's even if they don't censor it, you don't actually own anything you buy on Amazon as digital or Apple or Netflix. Netflix fuck even offer it. You're just leasing it for a while and you pay them as as you would if you bought the DVD at Amazon or Walmart or where did you buy DVDs now? Sam Goody's. That's still a thing.
00:02:23
Jo
Tower Records gone. And then like Blackbuster is gone. Hollywood Video is gone. Where do you best buy? Where do you buy DVDs, Amelie?
00:02:33
Amelie
I don't know. I don't buy DVDs. i don't buy DVDs.
00:02:36
Jo
We have to figure this shit out.
00:02:37
Amelie
That's an excellent question. I don't.
00:02:39
Jo
Right?
00:02:40
Amelie
I don't have a DVD player.
00:02:42
Jo
And that's that's sad.
00:02:42
Amelie
I don't.
00:02:44
Jo
Or Blu-ray. We got Blu-ray players on on our... Most gamers will have a Blu-ray player because you can put it in your Xbox. You can put in your PlayStation 4.
00:02:53
Amelie
Mm-hmm. What I used to watch my DVD with, it was my PS2 when I was a teenager.
00:02:59
Jo
There you go.
00:03:00
Amelie
So my generation was we play video game and we watch DVDs.
00:03:00
Jo
Yeah.
00:03:05
Amelie
Then you have the small DVD player you can take in your car. um My brother Jerry had one people like Stefan would have a DVD player and just play the DVD and watch the movie.
00:03:11
Jo
You good? Jesus.
00:03:18
Amelie
Or for example, computers used to have a DVD player.
00:03:21
Jo
Slot. Yes.
00:03:22
Amelie
Nowadays, no, we just have a USB key or we download on the internet.
00:03:23
Jo
On the slot.
00:03:28
Jo
Yeah, and that's kind of the magic. I do have the DVD of Dogma. and It was a film that I loved and talking about this thing. We're not going to give you any spoilers for the movie today, by the way.
00:03:41
Jo
Even though the movie's been out 25 years, I think there's some things, even watching it today, I forgot. I'm like, oh shit, that's right. That's that in there. And a lot of the things we kind of forget.
00:03:53
Jo
a how beautiful this four k is they retouch it in 4k and it's gorgeous it's absolutely gorgeous like the beginning the movie like oh my god it's so clear and the the faces are are so young and it makes you at least me think back to 1999 when i saw this in the theaters like how much have i changed oh shit i saw this in 99 when did you see this
00:04:20
Amelie
Very late, before Covid. 2018, 2019? No, was nine.
00:04:24
Jo
It's like 2018, 2019.
00:04:24
Amelie
twenty eighteen like nineteen
00:04:26
Jo
Jesus. Oh, man. Oh, man. Yeah. i was like, I saw this in a theater when it first came out in 1999. I'm like, oh, you were five. You couldn't see it?
00:04:36
Amelie
i was nine
00:04:37
Jo
You were nine? Oh, God. i was I was throwing five. That was a funny number in my head. and I shouldn't have been that close. Oh, well. But it's and it it's an amazing thing. like This is one thing that you're you're saying, i believe on this podcast, it might have just been our conversation we had.
00:04:56
Jo
that when you went to Australia, you're your husband was like, yeah, I got these fucking DVDs. You got to watch this, this, and this, right? Bean and I used to do the same thing. like Whenever we brought a girl over, it's like, okay.
00:05:10
Jo
We called it we call the ghetto pass for us. It's like, okay.
00:05:13
Amelie
yeah
00:05:15
Jo
ah if she watches Friday and she's like what the fuck that ain't it if she watches don't be a menace to self-sense while drinking juice in the hood and doesn't laugh or favorite black hat NWH and db h then doesn't like laugh at all like you just can't hang and with that's us you know
00:05:30
Amelie
It's very Westerner. My friend Paul. who was older than me, had a room full of DVDs. When I said a room full of DVDs, like imagine a library but full of DVDs.
00:05:41
Jo
oh yeah
00:05:45
Jo
I don't have to imagine that. That was my fucking house.
00:05:48
Amelie
Yeah, and big TV and a big sofa, but American sofa. Jude lived in North France, married a French woman who is was at that time a dean in a university in England.
00:06:00
Amelie
And he had a typical French house, very beautiful house, but there is one room, it t was very American. And we would do pizza night or sushi night and watch TV in English.
00:06:11
Jo
come
00:06:14
Amelie
And there were the DVDs have to watch. So you have to watch this or you have to watch that. Of course, I rewatched Bravart in English with the subtitle in French, this kind of thing.
00:06:25
Amelie
So there were this culture of various movies you have to watch, who are very famous in America, but didn't make it in Europe. And it's a but base basic base of the culture.
00:06:37
Amelie
Like our favorite game was like, you select three DVDs, I select three DVDs and we put the DVD on the table and we watch and, oh, come on.
00:06:37
Jo
right
00:06:44
Jo
We put our penis in them. That's my favorite game.
00:06:48
Amelie
And we watch one of the DVDs. Like for example, ah you select three DVD, I select three DVD and on your three DVD, I say, okay, this one I want to watch and yours, this one I want to watch.
00:06:50
Jo
Right.
00:06:59
Amelie
We place the two DVD together and we select.
00:07:01
Jo
right
00:07:03
Amelie
And it was a fun game.
00:07:03
Jo
So why are we doing that now for, we have a podcast. We can talk about this stuff. Why aren't we doing that too? Well, actually we kind of do it.
00:07:09
Amelie
We do, we do actually, but I like...
00:07:12
Jo
No, you're right.
00:07:12
Amelie
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:14
Jo
We kind of do. See, I like that idea.
00:07:15
Amelie
Yes, we do.
00:07:16
Jo
And this, that's what it brings me back to. And if you were not born old enough to see the movie in the nineteen ninety nine s or as some people say the 1900s and fuck all you people who say that, by the way, individually or in mass, doesn't matter to me how you fuck yourselves.
00:07:32
Jo
If you got an OnlyFans page, if you're doing that, though, I might subscribe. You can now see it again and again and again and again and and again in the UK and Ireland.
00:07:46
Jo
UK and Ireland. ah November 7th. seventh November 7th, UK, Ireland. Bam. Do it. Actually see it in the theaters. I think we're talking about a lot of times is this like a theater movie or ah a rental movie or a streaming movie. I think this is a theater movie.
00:08:06
Amelie
And I would encourage people who are like me, who are not English native speakers, who had the possibility to watch the movie um doubled, to watch it with subtitle or to watch the original.
00:08:17
Jo
The original. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:20
Amelie
It's different. So you need to know um I've been traveling the world, watching a lot of movies, etc. And my husband and I, we have a game. Whenever there is a movie who is very famous, he always asks that question.
00:08:36
Amelie
Did you watch it in English or in French?
00:08:40
Jo
Right. Right.
00:08:40
Amelie
And I have to stop and think, okay, I did watch that movie several times, but did I watch it in English? Meaning, did I hear the accent of Alain Brickman? Did I understand the joke from The Bridge?
00:08:56
Amelie
Or... Can I really understand the tense of the situation in such and such scene?
00:09:03
Jo
right
00:09:03
Amelie
Right? Because when it's doubled, everybody has the same accent, the Parisian accent. Nobody has the Irish accent or you cannot take notes.
00:09:13
Amelie
The guy is from the Bronx, et cetera, et cetera. You see what I mean?
00:09:17
Jo
Oh, that's interesting. So you had no idea when George Carlin was doing the George Carlin Act, and Alan Rickman's in this film as well.
00:09:24
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:09:24
Jo
Snape has no penis. That's why he doesn't get with Lily Potter.
00:09:27
Amelie
That's scary as fuck.
00:09:29
Jo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. um That's not really a spoiler. I'm not sure which sport we're spoiling now. It's either going to be Harry Potter 5, Teen, or Dogma. Yeah, Snape has no penis.
00:09:40
Jo
Ben, Affleck, and Matt Damon. Batman and not Robin. Ooh, that would have been a weird fucking movie. sam ah So you're having all these actual accents flying around.
00:09:53
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:09:53
Jo
Chris Rock, I mean, Salma Hayek. Do you remember watching this in a different language? Like, did you actually watch this?
00:10:02
Amelie
Yes, yes, I watched it in French and they don't have accent.
00:10:02
Jo
Okay.
00:10:06
Jo
None of them have accents. So how, it doesn't really play all right, because you you have Alan Rickman, brings so much to it with the way he speaks.
00:10:17
Amelie
Yes, yeah.
00:10:17
Jo
His accent brings a lot to this.
00:10:20
Amelie
Alors, little anecdote, Piège de Cristal, the movie with Alan Crickman and...
00:10:32
Amelie
Die Hard. Die Hard is a movie you watch every time at Christmas, right?
00:10:35
Jo
Oh yeah. this No, no, no, no. What's it in France? In like the Crystal...
00:10:40
Amelie
Piège de Cristal.
00:10:41
Jo
Yeah, the ah Crystal Palace trap or some shit like that? Piège de Snow?
00:10:46
Amelie
Alors, Piège de Cristal, it's Crystal... Alors, Crystal Trap.
00:10:51
Jo
Oh, Piège. I was right. Damn it. I said Christmas Palace trap.
00:10:53
Amelie
Crystal Trap.
00:10:55
Jo
What the fuck?
00:10:55
Amelie
And it's a beautiful, beautiful title, Piège de Cristal.
00:10:56
Jo
Correct me.
00:10:59
Jo
Yeah, it does nothing.
00:10:59
Amelie
And it's a beautiful title.
00:11:00
Jo
sounds like a fucking musical.
00:11:02
Amelie
Because crystal, crial you think about the window. So you know it's a long building with a lot of window. So when you're French and you say piège de cristal, that's a fantastic title because it's piège, a trap.
00:11:10
Jo
so
00:11:18
Amelie
Crystal, so you imagine bang, explosion.
00:11:20
Jo
Yeah, no.
00:11:21
Amelie
cria Crystal, crystal, also the building with windows.
00:11:24
Jo
Like, Die Hard doesn't fucking translate?
00:11:26
Amelie
Die hard. No, it's ugly.
00:11:28
Jo
know.
00:11:29
Amelie
How do you call it? Oh, die hard. Meurdure.
00:11:34
Jo
you no i know No, no, you're right. You're right, my bad, because no one France gets hard. ha ha ha ha. ah
00:11:40
Amelie
So, yeah.
00:11:41
Jo
oh
00:11:41
Amelie
So, for example, for die hard, when you talk about
00:11:41
Jo
ah Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no. You can't deny it now. You can't deny it because think about this, folks.
00:11:51
Amelie
die hard.
00:11:52
Jo
did if If people in France can get hard, you would not be with an Australian.
00:11:53
Amelie
Meurdure.
00:11:58
Jo
You would have stayed your ass in France.
00:11:59
Amelie
Oh.
00:12:01
Amelie
Oh.
00:12:01
Jo
But she had to go else elsewhere, her folks.
00:12:03
Jo
the doubt Actually, I don't want to tell the story, but yeah ah we know he's Australian. So, the down underland.
00:12:11
Amelie
Yeah, jealous.
00:12:13
Jo
Oh, hell yeah. but Fuck, man. My friend Dino had an Australian woman. Now you have an Australian dude. Where's my Australian? Huh? That's what we're learning today. We're learning that Kevin Smith's got another great movie remastered 4K coming out on November 7th.
00:12:28
Jo
Not streaming, by the way. In the fucking theaters in UK and Ireland.
00:12:32
Amelie
Mm-hmm
00:12:32
Jo
Go see it. i Shit, November 7th. Man, maybe I'll come out and see that. But we also learned that, yeah. yeah I don't have an Australian and it's a it's a travesty.
00:12:46
Amelie
You don't know you don't know straight any Australian person Oh Mm-hmm
00:12:50
Jo
No, I mean, I don't have my own. know Australian people, are're you know, there's not my own. I'll get over it somehow. All right, over. So when you're watching this, the sound is also kind of like ah we both had our headphones on, right?
00:13:06
Amelie
you
00:13:07
Jo
As we're watching, we watch things together. one two, three, a type thing. And the sound seems to be touched as well. Like, you can really hear the scuttering when the hockey players are going through.
00:13:17
Amelie
Yes.
00:13:19
Jo
can You can actually differentiate between one another. and
00:13:22
Amelie
The color is retouched.
00:13:25
Jo
it's gorgeous.
00:13:25
Amelie
The sound also. The cartoon. I don't remember the cartoon at the beginning.
00:13:29
Jo
Cartoon. Yeah, the cartoon beginning is kind of cool. It's got an introduction to characters and stuff that. was almost like the old Pink Panther.
00:13:37
Amelie
easy
00:13:38
Jo
don't know how we were doing things. I like that.
00:13:40
Amelie
But yeah, for Alec Rickman, you need to know when I was talking about Piège de Cristal Die Hard,
00:13:46
Jo
Here's the crystal.
00:13:47
Amelie
and the famous quote and everything, I was quoting the hero and i was talking about how the hero is fantastic, cool, etc. And everybody look at me and is like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:14:00
Amelie
I like Rickman. And I was like, what? The bad guy? And everybody quotes the bad guy and says, I don't care about the bad guy. But when you watch it in French and you watch it in an original version,
00:14:11
Amelie
They don't have an accent. They all speak French like normal people. They just speak differently. They're bourgeois and so.
00:14:17
Jo
I'm curious. Yippee-ki-yay. What's that in French? How do they translate that?
00:14:24
Amelie
Pauvre con.
00:14:26
Jo
Say it again? You kind of cut out.
00:14:27
Amelie
Yuppie-kaye,
00:14:29
Jo
Puffcom. They actually do say that Yippee- So they don't have to translate Yippee-ki-yay, but they have to translate fucking Die Hard?
00:14:31
Amelie
pauvre con.
00:14:34
Amelie
Yuppie-kaye, pauvre con. Yuppie-kaye, pauvre con.
00:14:39
Jo
God damn it.
00:14:42
Amelie
And there is a man, and my friend AJ and I, we disagree.
00:14:42
Jo
Yippee-ki-yay puffcom?
00:14:46
Amelie
There is a man in France, unfortunately, he passed away.
00:14:50
Jo
He's French.
00:14:51
Amelie
as passed away
00:14:51
Jo
Oh, that too.
00:14:53
Amelie
He's an actor who was the official voice of the hero. And everybody knows him and he has a very particular voice and the Americans don't like his voice.
00:15:04
Amelie
But us French people, we love his voice.
00:15:06
Jo
Love the voice. going to ask you a question.
00:15:09
Amelie
Go.
00:15:10
Jo
What actor plays the hero in Die Hard? What's his name?
00:15:14
Amelie
Um...
00:15:14
Jo
Jim Morrison or Jimi Hendrix?
00:15:16
Amelie
Oh, fuck off.
00:15:19
Jo
No, no. Yippee-ki-yay. Pump-pump. what Pump-pump.
00:15:22
Amelie
Yuppie-kai, pauvre, yuppie-kai, pauvre, con.
00:15:23
Jo
Yippee-ki-yay. Oh, pull-vuh.
00:15:30
Amelie
Yuppie-kai, pauvre, cunt, basically.
00:15:30
Jo
Pull-vuh. You can. Or not. that be You go. like Say it again.
00:15:36
Amelie
Yuppie-kai, pauvre, cunt.
00:15:36
Jo
Pull-vuh. Yeah.
00:15:39
Amelie
Yuppie-kai, pauvre, con.
00:15:39
Jo
Pull-vuh. Pull-vuh.
00:15:43
Amelie
Yuppie-kai, pauvre, con.
00:15:45
Jo
I don't even want to know. Because... Motherfucker. You actually do have the word motherfucker, right?
00:15:52
Amelie
Putain bordel de merde.
00:15:54
Jo
Yeah.
00:15:54
Amelie
We would translate like that. Fuck, putain.
00:15:58
Jo
But. time
00:15:58
Amelie
Shit, merde. But would say putain de bordel de merde, you know what I mean?
00:16:00
Jo
That.
00:16:03
Jo
Man.
00:16:03
Amelie
um Sylvester Stennen.
00:16:07
Jo
Mr. Stalin.
00:16:08
Amelie
Schwarzenegger. I will be back.
00:16:10
Jo
Swashenegg.
00:16:11
Amelie
In French, she's je reviendrai.
00:16:13
Jo
Oh, I will return my return. No, I will enjoy my return.
00:16:18
Amelie
Je reviendrai. I will be back. I will be back with Terminator, the sentences, je reviendrai.
00:16:24
Jo
I just said I just said Joyeux like that's it for those of you want to see French lessons well you've come to a right fucking place because one thing about Kevin Smith's dogma is and all the fucking French in it they never pardoned their French once
00:16:36
Amelie
um Not famous. No, no, no, no, it's not a famous movie in France. I heard about it via internet, but I didn't know about it. It's super famous in the English native speaking world.
00:16:53
Jo
Yeah, no, it's huge.
00:16:53
Amelie
Super famous.
00:16:54
Jo
Like most Kevin Smith movies, they're saying it's a cult classic, but I think you can almost name any random Kevin Smith movie and becomes a cult classic. And that's also, unfortunately, a polite way of saying it made him make money at the box office, but people really love it.
00:17:09
Amelie
Thank
00:17:10
Jo
I'm kidding. Your movies are better than mine, obviously. But you have this aspect of this release, and not sure if They're going to make this into like an actual 4K Blu-ray somewhere, you know, down the line and ship it out that way.
00:17:26
Jo
But we got an additional bonus. They may or may not stream this. I don't know if they'll add this on or if we just got it to watch it. When they're doing the Q&A tour, because Kevin Smith did this in North America um like the 1500 screens in like, it was something like, what was June or something like that?
00:17:47
Jo
And does a Q&A. I've been through some Kevin Smith Q&A's before. It is experience. It's experience. The first Q&A, my accent coming up, the first Q&A I've seen for Kevin Smith, he went so long, the city transportation shut down.
00:18:12
Jo
Yeah, like we were actually legally having get out of the building because there was no more transportation.
00:18:13
Amelie
No.
00:18:17
Jo
That's how long he was. It was great. it's fantastic. I'm not complaining. That is not a complaint.
00:18:22
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:18:23
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:18:23
Jo
That's like, he can just go and go and go.
00:18:27
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:18:29
Jo
I think they call the Q and A is like, let's get, you know, let's face It's like a couple of cues and a lot of A, but that's the funness of Kevin Smith. You ask him one fucking random question and he'll go on for 25 minutes and it's going to take you on along a long journey and somewhere in that journey, the the question is probably answered.
00:18:47
Jo
Maybe, But the answer itself given in that journey is enlightening, is funny, is heart-touching, or whatever it's going to be. Have you ever been to an event where you had like the director come out and talk about the movie before or after?
00:19:05
Amelie
no
00:19:06
Jo
Yeah, no, we did that for Clerks 2 or 3. We did that for one the fucking Clerks. Might have been Clerks 3. And it's it's weird because you don't know if ah you you feel bad at the movie bombs because he has to come fucking back out.
00:19:22
Jo
Right? It's like you can set the movie up all you want. Hey, were everyone, here's the movie. You know, that you can everyone's going to love it. And if the movie bombs, he has to come back out. Could you imagine? Like, hey, I can't wait for you to you know watch this great thing. And then it just fucking falls to shit.
00:19:39
Jo
You have to follow your movie. They just bomb. Unfortunately, that...
00:19:46
Jo
Nope, did not happen. The movie was great. Everyone loved it. came out. He rocked a couple more and left. It's an amazing experience. It's ballsy though. Now, when we're watching the movie, how does it start out? When you're watching Dogma, you remember how it starts out?
00:20:04
Jo
With the warning. The warning label.
00:20:08
Amelie
Yes.
00:20:09
Jo
It's just a fucking disclaimer. Right?
00:20:11
Amelie
Yes.
00:20:12
Jo
That was 1999.
00:20:15
Jo
They felt the need to put that on there.
00:20:17
Amelie
Yes.
00:20:18
Jo
2024, I had to put that on my fucking books. It got it got worse.
00:20:20
Amelie
Yeah.
00:20:21
Jo
I almost have to apologize for all your art.
00:20:21
Amelie
No, it gets worse. It gets worse. We were talking about that. And the thing is, in 1999, it was done for the Christian in America. According to Paul, Paul, who was the age of my dad.
00:20:35
Amelie
Right.
00:20:36
Jo
Sure.
00:20:36
Amelie
When I watched it with Stefan, my husband, it was after the attack in France. And in France, we have this problem with Charlie Hebdo, with the people who got killed because they were drawing a caricature of Malmé.
00:20:45
Jo
Carly Hadwell.
00:20:49
Jo
They drew a character of Muhammad.
00:20:52
Amelie
Right. And nowadays, there is this big debate of history teacher being insulted by students saying, hey, madame, you don't have the right to say that. You don't have the right to say this.
00:21:03
Amelie
This is history. It's a fact. It's history. It's a based on history, right?
00:21:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:21:09
Amelie
And nowadays, we have this cancel culture of we cannot talk about this. We cannot laugh about that and cultural appropriation and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:16
Jo
Oh yeah, I know. Yeah.
00:21:20
Amelie
So watching the beginning with this is what's going on, it's just to be fun, etc.
00:21:24
Jo
yeah
00:21:26
Amelie
It just reminds me of matriffe. who did Netflix special is a young comedian, a comedian. And he's like, okay, we're here to laugh. I'm going to make a joke.
00:21:37
Amelie
Enough was in one. It's to stay in the water and you're going to see, remember, I'm a comedian. This is not reality. This is just a show.
00:21:46
Jo
Right. Yeah.
00:21:46
Amelie
And he tells a joke about ah him going to a fast food restaurant and see a woman with a white dress with a black eye and they laugh and think oh maybe she got beaten up and make a huge scandal and people wanted to cancel him and stuff it's the same like just this is for fun yes and they turn and turn and turn and turn and turn in and remember only god can judge us but it doesn't exist so whatever you see like they turn turn turn turn
00:22:07
Jo
yeah
00:22:17
Jo
Right. Joe Pesci, as Carlin would say, right? And that's what it kind of is. It's reflection of you want to want to you wonder where cancel culture comes from. Well, there's a whole lecture on this. It's actually from the power elites kids. It's not actually your ideas.
00:22:35
Jo
You don't have any ideas. You have the power elite telling you what you should think. And one of those things that you should think is canceling someone. You see them kind of do it. So you're kind of trying. You think reappropriating it their power.
00:22:48
Jo
You're not. The elites really will never get canceled. But they'll let you fight for the second tier. And makes like, oh this guy's getting canceled. Who really wants him canceled?
00:23:00
Jo
Not the idiots that you are on Twitter or X or Instagram or Facebook where you get your own ideas from. Again, get your ideas from because you have no critical thinking. Oh, it's a soapbox day. Sorry, kids.
00:23:11
Jo
Welcome my soapbox. Won't be old man version of it. But that's where the old cancel culture started coming in, like the late 90s, to the point where, like I'm saying, like we lost that battle.
00:23:24
Jo
you know we We thought we were winning when we had a little bit of the ah Frank Zappa and Dee Schneider coming in saying, hey, you know music doesn't kill people.
00:23:37
Jo
Ozzy Osbourne getting on trial because they people thought his music was killing people. Or the parent parental guidance label, which I was going to put on, actually, maybe the hardcover, there might be a mock-up of my book with that on there, honestly.
00:23:53
Jo
But that was all stemming from the, I want to say, late 80s, early 90s, all the way through. Dungeons and Dragons will kill you. Don't use you know't don't play D&D. It's satanic, whatever the hell that shit was.
00:24:05
Jo
And we get to the point where it gets worse and it keeps getting worse. It keeps getting worse. Smith puts it out in his movie because he knows he makes light of it, but he knows he's fucking asked to.
00:24:17
Jo
gets worse. It gets worse. They get protested. It gets worse. gets worse. I have to put out a video. ah a video I have to put it on my book and I still get fucking banned in places and people call me a piece shit for whatever I wrote against religion.
00:24:30
Jo
Again, I think most of the the book that they hate for me is the religious part. They don't really... you know I guess you can beat the housewives up all you want. But stay after religion.
00:24:42
Jo
So you you have that cancel culture. And this is what kind of goes back to the screening. It reminds us where the lineage came and how far we did not get.
00:24:54
Jo
just got worse.
00:24:57
Amelie
And it's getting worse, especially with internet.
00:25:00
Jo
Yeah.
00:25:00
Amelie
Like there is a new generation where girls, because I was a receptionist, I was talking to girls. I was like, so how's the dating scene? What are you looking for? Et cetera. They're like, either the guy wants to fuck us, which is fine. And after we get ghosted or we get ghosted before getting to meet the person or they're like, okay, what's your body count?
00:25:24
Amelie
Are you a Christian? Do you believe in God? Do you want to have kids?
00:25:27
Jo
Fucking interview.
00:25:27
Amelie
I don't know want what to have kids. Why you don't want to have kids? If you don't want to have kids, you are a lost cousin and stuff like that. I'm like, what the F? You know what I mean? Like there is a problem of internet.
00:25:36
Jo
Yeah.
00:25:40
Amelie
There is good thing with internet, but there is also bad things with internet. And more and more people, especially young people are starting to be,
00:25:53
Amelie
too much like really really far right ah they want to have a family and stuff and they're like yeah women has way too much uh too much right i'm hearing and listening people studying things who date from before the second world war right
00:25:58
Jo
Yeah.
00:26:14
Amelie
Like women shouldn't be in pills, you know, like ah abortion is a really bad thing. Women should have a baby. Women who are over 35 years old who don't have babies are totally crazy.
00:26:25
Amelie
And these people are not dumb. Like it's really, smart yes, they're dumb, but that's really scary.
00:26:32
Jo
i know you're married. Yeah.
00:26:33
Amelie
Like they're not, they're not rednecks, if you see what I mean. They know how to speak properly, if you see what I mean.
00:26:40
Jo
yeah
00:26:40
Amelie
And that's scary, you know, and there is more and more of them. And I'm like, yeah, no. um
00:26:49
Amelie
I was talking to a friend who suffered from endometriosis, and she was interviewed by TV about her condition. And she was talking about what's going on, about the condition, she has fixed her everyday life, how difficult it is to have babies and stuff.
00:27:10
Amelie
she got insulted because she couldn't produce children. And I was like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Like there is more and more progress technology wise, but politically wise,
00:27:23
Jo
Well, right.
00:27:29
Jo
It's it slid back a bit. And this goes back to the movie with Bethany. One of the... i don't want to spoil the movie, but this does tie into of the characters, Bethany, and played by ah Linda Forantino.
00:27:42
Jo
Where it is an issue of women's rights. i don't I don't think it spoils it. It's the first two minutes of the film where she works at an abortion clinic and she actually gives the money to the church because she's actually a good, you know, and she goes to church and gives the money to the fucking plate being passed around.
00:27:59
Jo
You have that aspect of it. And you also have the, she's, you know, she had a medical condition without spoiling it that led her not to have kids or be able to have kids, and that in the societal view, it made her lesser.
00:28:19
Jo
And that's what you were talking about before.
00:28:20
Amelie
yeah
00:28:20
Jo
is still And the thing about Smith's movie, it still connects. like the the Yes, it's funny. Yes, it's it's a funny movie. like You see Chris Rock. I didn't realize how much Rock's ass is in this movie. I'm like, Jesus Christ.
00:28:35
Amelie
yes and she work in an abortion clinic like she work in an abortion clinic there is
00:28:35
Jo
I don't remember it in the fucking...
00:28:39
Jo
Yes. Well, Chris Rock's ass doesn't work there, but Bethany does.
00:28:44
Amelie
and
00:28:44
Jo
yeah
00:28:45
Amelie
And there's this scene when she explained what happened. It's not her fault. She got an infection. Like she got sick. Can happen.
00:28:50
Jo
Right.
00:28:51
Amelie
You know, right?
00:28:52
Jo
Yeah, without too many spoilers, but yes.
00:28:53
Amelie
And ah yeah, but you see what I mean?
00:28:55
Jo
Yeah.
00:28:57
Amelie
And that's terrible. But I'm telling you, I went to the office, I met a lot of people, and I met a lot of people who came to me and like, oh, you're the mother of triplets, mother of triplets, like I was the goddess, right?
00:29:12
Jo
Are they dragons?
00:29:12
Amelie
And had, yeah, like, limit, yeah. As I drag and say, drag and say, the agreements.
00:29:16
Jo
Jesus Christ. Yeah.
00:29:18
Amelie
And the tone of bullshit I heard was horrifying because you see this man coming to you with big smile. oh Oh, God bless you. You know, you have three kids.
00:29:28
Amelie
This is fantastic. And yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have two girls and a boys.
00:29:31
Jo
that European thing?
00:29:33
Amelie
Oh, but bra Bravo, bravo, you should be happy. Yeah, it's fun going and everything. And and and and you're working and stuff. You're such a good woman. and Like, God really love you. But you know, there is way too much women who don't want to have kids. Like, there is a lot of white women who don't want to have kids, you know. You know what's the problem with white women?
00:29:50
Amelie
And they have the pill. Therefore, they became slut. And they fuck fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. And you know what happened? Where the uterus is completely fucked down. So then they do IVF and IVF doesn't work and they want to have a carrier and stuff like that. You know, women should be mother by the age of 25. I wouldn't say before 25, but at 25. And you listen to that, you're like, what?
00:30:11
Jo
Yeah, i was like, you're at your internet cut for a minute, so no one really knew that you were talking about someone saying that out loud. They actually thought you were saying that yourself.
00:30:19
Amelie
Oh.
00:30:21
Jo
was like, I'm just letting this shit go.
00:30:21
Amelie
Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:30:22
Jo
Nope, that's the fucking cut.
00:30:24
Amelie
That's what men would say to me.
00:30:25
Jo
I'm putting that in there.
00:30:26
Amelie
Like that, sorry. But that's what men would say to me.
00:30:27
Jo
no Yeah, I know.
00:30:28
Amelie
Like, congratulations, Ed. You know what? And that's crazy because if you looked at me as a normal person, I got pregnant at 30 years old, gave birth at 31. It's pretty late.
00:30:41
Amelie
i could have just one kid, you know. And B, judge because I just had one kid. Oh, look at this woman. Just one kid. What a selfish woman. And na an ni and and and nine and she doesn't want to have a second one.
00:30:54
Jo
Right.
00:30:55
Amelie
But I maybe have a good reason.
00:30:55
Jo
Well.
00:30:56
Amelie
You know what I mean? Like money wise and my uterus and my body and etc.
00:31:02
Jo
I think you'd have explain that to your kids if you stopped at one.
00:31:02
Amelie
etc.
00:31:07
Jo
Like, oh no, get back there, goddammit. You get back in there, you stay the fuck in there. I'm only having one of you.
00:31:12
Amelie
No, God choose me.
00:31:13
Jo
Yeah.
00:31:14
Amelie
And I was blessed with three kids in one go. But you cannot imagine the lift up and the fact that I'm international and I'm not living with my family.
00:31:18
Jo
Oh my god.
00:31:26
Amelie
I'm friends with a lot of females who travel world, have freelancers, who decide, like for example, my cousin, to leave away from Europe.
00:31:29
Jo
Yeah.
00:31:34
Amelie
and the consequences. So you're single, there is consequences. So you decide to live abroad, there's consequences. You don't want to have kids, there is no consequences.
00:31:43
Amelie
If you're 35 years old, American and live in France and you decide to not have kids.
00:31:43
Jo
yeah
00:31:51
Jo
There's consequences. And that's for Bethany. She deals with this. Like the characters deal with a lot of the real stuff. And that's what makes it good.
00:31:59
Amelie
Yeah.
00:32:00
Jo
Even the angels, Loki and Bartleby, they deal with real issues. They deal, like they're they're friendship squabbles. They're real. that That's all grounded in humanity.
00:32:15
Jo
and And I think that's what dogma is. It's grounded in humanity. And that's why it works in 1999. That's where it works in 2025. And I'm jealous of the Irish for more than a reason.
00:32:29
Jo
But you guys get to see this. You and the UKers, eh? Oh, that's youpers. You and the people from the UK can see this on November 7th in the theaters.
00:32:41
Jo
I had to like break into a theater and like a porn theater and like put this on a projector. ah so That's how Emily and I saw this. at some broken down porn theater somewhere. Kidding.
00:32:52
Jo
Or am I? I don't know. like I'm not a spy. What am I supposed to do? So i I like this. i like that we're doing it. And I like it's the same movie.
00:33:03
Jo
You know what I mean? I was wondering. I didn't remember movie being like two hours long. Was it really fucking two hours long? It flies by by the way, but they didn't add in any Lucas.
00:33:14
Jo
Like George Lucas would have like, here's fucking Jabba Hutt walking around now just because. like
00:33:18
Amelie
Yeah, no, no, that was terrible.
00:33:19
Jo
They didn't do any of that shit. Yeah, they didn't they just retouched the color.
00:33:21
Amelie
Terrible.
00:33:24
Jo
They retouched the, you know, it looks like it came from 2025 instead of the 1990s. If you've seen a film that has been retouched in the 90s, go watch the Daily Show of Jon Stewart, the early ones.
00:33:38
Jo
See how well that video aged, meaning the the video quality. We've come a long way in 25 years, and that's just fucking TV. You know, we've come a long way now. So I loved this movie before.
00:33:52
Jo
i got my dad a Buddy Christ for his truck. And, you know, yep. And then I gave it the away after that.
00:34:03
Jo
And then apparently they gave it to someone else. So that was kind of maybe the Buddy Christ keeps moving that way. I don't know. But he loved it. I didn't know how my dad would think. I'm like, oh, maybe I just fucking hate it. But he loved it.
00:34:14
Jo
He loved it. Okay, full story. I got myself Buddy Christ. I put it on my my car, and my dad saw it once when he visited. like He loved it so much, I just gave up to him. Oh, there go And he was pretty, religious religious yeah, towards the end.
00:34:28
Amelie
That's cool! That's cool.
00:34:31
Jo
Yeah, so you you have these concepts, and you you have George Carlin playing... religion with a guy named Rufus in this, which would be his Bill and Ted name. I mean, it all kind of spirals inwards.
00:34:46
Jo
It's really cool. Now, besides the shit demon, and I think the shit demon still works, by the way.
00:34:57
Jo
Like, you know it's coming up. You know what's going to look like. I'd rather have that than some tricked out CGI'd completely, obviously, right?
00:35:09
Jo
But, you know, I saw Tron Ares a couple days ago. And I think that's pretty decent use of effects as sometimes it does get away.
00:35:22
Jo
But that's the anomaly lately. A lot of the movies that you're seeing in the CGI, it just kind looks like shit. It takes you out of the movie. And I don't know if that's a part practical or part CG to whatever it's going to be for the sheep demon.
00:35:38
Jo
The shit demon. But it... Oh, that happened. That's my fucking thing that fell down. Sorry, kids. An angel just got his wings. There you go.
00:35:49
Jo
But it it didn't go poorly. Like, the work's still the work. It's still nice work. It looks like it belongs in today's... It looks like it belongs in the movie theater today.
00:36:02
Jo
And I'd rather see that in most movies.
00:36:02
Amelie
But even in the old version, the shit monster was good.
00:36:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:36:06
Amelie
And when you don't know the movie, because we have a new generation who can watch the movie, let's a Gen z you don't expect to see the shit monster when you don't know.
00:36:17
Jo
Yeah.
00:36:17
Amelie
People are like, wait, wait, wait. And you're like, okay, you watch the scene.
00:36:20
Jo
Wait for it.
00:36:20
Amelie
There is a stripper. Okay, there's Salma Hayek. She's hot and sexy. Okay, cool. And then you have out of nowhere the shit monster. And you're like what the fuck?
00:36:28
Jo
Yeah, it kind of sets it up in the in the wrong places. And it all comes back. A lot of the jokes go circular in a good way. It's a set up and go and then a callback. Set up, go, callback, right?
00:36:41
Jo
It works. And I was thinking during this movie, you don't have to watch any other Kevin Smith movies. You should, but you don't have to, to enjoy this one. You do have Jay and Silent Bob. They are the constant thread throughout.
00:36:56
Jo
And they're right. That John Hughes is a motherfucker. I also went looking for those. I got lost when the Canada instead. But you have all these things where you don't have to watch it. ah like You don't have to watch Clerks. You don't to watch Mallrats or any of that.
00:37:13
Jo
You can and really enjoy Dogma just by itself. You get a better character you know view if you actually watch Arrest too, but there's there's no one, you're like, what's this guy? What's that guy? You don't have any of that.
00:37:28
Jo
It just kind of works. And that's the beauty of this movie. So I think it held up. And you're saying, same thing, yeah? It held up?
00:37:35
Amelie
Yeah, and I really like, for example, the scene, there is one scene I really like with the demon.
00:37:36
Jo
Yeah.
00:37:41
Amelie
And I was like looking at the CGI and saying, this is a really good effect. Like they retouch the color.
00:37:45
Jo
Yeah.
00:37:46
Amelie
It's perfect. And I had a little moment of hesitation. It's like, I don't understand that scene. And immediately there is the explanation. I'm like, it's smart. It's really clever. Like it's really, really, really clever.
00:37:56
Jo
Yeah.
00:37:56
Amelie
There are scenes, I will talk about it after the podcast, because I don't want to spoil it, it's really well written.
00:38:01
Jo
else
00:38:02
Amelie
Like, it's funny because it's well written. It's well played, it's well written, and there is a good tempo.
00:38:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:38:08
Amelie
And that's a movie I would like to watch with my kids later on.
00:38:11
Jo
Yeah. It's tight and you could really watch this with your kids depending on your parenting, but I would watch with mine.
00:38:14
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:38:18
Jo
I why not? There's, there's nothing horrifically bad about this. It's, it takes a poke at the religions. It does so on an even keel.
00:38:25
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:38:28
Jo
And unfortunately, there's no nudity. There's there's some scenes that I really couldn't watch because was like once again, Snape has no penis.
00:38:37
Amelie
Yeah, oh god, la vache, that is so well done.
00:38:39
Jo
That freaked her out a bit. Yeah.
00:38:43
Amelie
but they're like who yes
00:38:44
Jo
Yeah. That's old Marilyn Manson one. So you you have all that. And you told me that you liked it more today than you have before, but you just liked it more.
00:38:55
Amelie
Yes, so I watched it in French but that was not very interesting so I zapped. I watched in English with the Australian, but my level is English was not as best as nowadays.
00:39:08
Amelie
And I didn didn't understand the sense of humor as a different accent, but it was fun to watch, you know.
00:39:15
Jo
Right.
00:39:15
Amelie
But nowadays, because I have a better understanding of the subculture, I'm really good with the vocabula, I understand the different accent. I really enjoyed it, like deeper conversation.
00:39:26
Jo
yeah
00:39:27
Amelie
Like I was saying, it's not a goo goo ga ga movie.
00:39:30
Amelie
It's really intellectual.
00:39:30
Jo
No.
00:39:31
Jo
It's deep.
00:39:32
Amelie
Like you pay attention to the way they talk. It's really high past and very intellectual.
00:39:39
Amelie
And I was really impressed. Like every comedian has a moment of seriousness when they talk and they negotiate, etc. when they tell the story and you stop and you listen.
00:39:39
Jo
yeah
00:39:50
Amelie
And that's very profound.
00:39:51
Jo
yeah Sometimes you collaborate and listen.
00:39:54
Amelie
Thank you.
00:39:55
Jo
But I'm not gonna do Ice Ice Baby, sorry. But i like I agree, this is, it's ah obviously a comedy, questions have but it is a comedy. At the same time, it's a social critique.
00:40:08
Jo
that goes deep beyond, they use, I'm not sure if they're using comedy as a shield to, you know, that's comedic nature to kind of critique the societal, you know, at least the comedian's nature is to do that.
00:40:22
Jo
But comedy is really cutting on this one and it goes, the strength of the writing, the acting and the directing. Like all of them are Kevin Smith plus the other people, right? Kevin Smith did, think two of those three plus Silent Bob part, you know?
00:40:38
Jo
So you you have the strength of that production value of it. the the Just the love that everyone seemed to have and fun that everyone seemed to have on the set type vibe, you know?
00:40:52
Jo
Do you think we see this because you're a millennial on Om X? And A, us agreeing on a good movie, that's fucking weird. But do you think we see it because of when we came out versus like would a Gen Z?
00:41:10
Jo
Enjoy this.
00:41:13
Amelie
I was thinking about my nephew Benji, who is a Gen Alpha, who really believe in God and was raised in a Christian family.
00:41:18
Jo
Okay.
00:41:23
Amelie
But they're not Catholic. They believe on the Bible. Baptized? Baptist?
00:41:27
Jo
Baptist, sure.
00:41:27
Amelie
Baptist?
00:41:28
Amelie
Where? Baptist. And when I say to him, I don't believe in God, he was like all shocked. And I was daydreaming and i was like, should I watch that movie with my nephew?
00:41:28
Jo
Sure, sure.
00:41:40
Amelie
Now his turn is 13 years old. Should I go back to Australia, sit with him and say, I want to watch a movie with you. And I want your opinion.
00:41:48
Jo
No. You should not.
00:41:51
Amelie
Yeah.
00:41:53
Jo
If you're really asking, is that a real question?
00:41:53
Amelie
You see? Yeah. 13. 13.
00:41:55
Jo
No. How old is he?
00:41:57
Amelie
13 years
00:41:58
Jo
How old?
00:41:58
Amelie
Yes. Yeah.
00:41:59
Amelie
Yeah.
00:41:59
Jo
How old is he?
00:41:59
Jo
13. Does he have parents? Does he have parents? Does he have parents?
00:42:05
Amelie
yes yeah yeah
00:42:08
Jo
It's not any of your business to watch that movie with him.
00:42:13
Jo
See what I mean? He's not an adult. He's still a child.
00:42:15
Amelie
yeah but shoot Yeah, I know, but should I?
00:42:16
Jo
And you're taking it upon yourself to force an ideological.
00:42:21
Amelie
Should I?
00:42:22
Jo
You ain't the parent.
00:42:22
Amelie
I think about it and I'm like, if I have the afternoon with him, should I watch with him?
00:42:23
Jo
should i Should I watch snuff films of your kids? Not that would.
00:42:29
Amelie
With my kids, yeah, but we're not we don't believe, but I mean, we're not linked to a church.
00:42:33
Jo
Well, ah the thing is, with your kids, they're your kids.
00:42:37
Amelie
For the moment, they don't.
00:42:37
Jo
You can do what you want. Right.
00:42:40
Amelie
Yeah, I know. But I'm talking about There is a movie I'm going to watch and it's about that. Can I watch it with him?
00:42:51
Amelie
In a sense of not the, oh, I'm the parents, but can I watch it with you and you can give me honest opinion without, you know what I mean?
00:42:51
Jo
Educating Rita.
00:42:58
Jo
Right. Could you watch it?
00:43:03
Amelie
Without attacking or something like that?
00:43:03
Jo
ye You know what? I think this is a good thing to to look at.
00:43:05
Amelie
Like, you see what I mean? Not just, you you know what I mean?
00:43:11
Jo
Yeah, I think it's a good thing to look at. And this is one of the things where I was talking with some other people before, believe it not. And we as a society or a world, maybe because the internet and the algorithms is kind of the way they work, can't talk to another side.
00:43:28
Jo
We only talk to our side the other side automatically the enemy. There's no discussion. There's there's no ability for to converse anymore. And I think dogma resurrected, that's what they're calling it.
00:43:40
Jo
is one of those things where you can still converse about things. It comes from that time where we were losing, but we still tried. Sorry, kids, we lost. Spoiler alert.
00:43:51
Jo
We tried. We tried. We tried our best. And then you you have that set up along the lines of... You could sit this down because it is a comedy at the end of the day. And someone might get have sand up their ass crack.
00:44:07
Jo
But you could probably talk to them later on and be friends still. At least. don't know. So I think you're right. This was a good movie to maybe introduce people to the concept of critical thinking.
00:44:18
Amelie
yeah
00:44:23
Jo
You know?
00:44:23
Amelie
Yes, definitely.
00:44:24
Jo
All right.
00:44:25
Amelie
That's what I would like to to to try, to wonder, would it be possible? Would it be possible?
00:44:31
Jo
Yeah.
00:44:31
Amelie
Because with the concept of political, we are living nowadays. Everywhere around the world, it's like my idea is right, you're wrong. You can't say that. You are not allowed to say that.
00:44:42
Jo
Yeah.
00:44:43
Amelie
No, I'm allowed to have my own opinion and belief, etc. What I'm not allowed to is to murder you for that.
00:44:52
Amelie
See what I mean?
00:44:54
Jo
Not yet. Coming up next week.
00:44:56
Amelie
Like...
00:44:56
Jo
That's what we do on streaming Demons. Kidding.
00:45:00
Jo
But yeah, no, i get it. I get it. And that's why this movie matters. It's still funny. it's still poignant. It gets deep. And if you are in the UK or Ireland, November 7th, get tickets now. Get them as soon as you can.
00:45:16
Jo
Start a box office. Take the barricades. You're going to need a bigger ship. Ooh, that's mine now. And watch it in the theater.
00:45:27
Jo
If you can't get there, Try getting your old DVDs and VHS out and blow on it straight to Nintendo cartridge and put it in that way. It's really much worth watching. It's a two-hour thing.
00:45:40
Jo
That's it. Now, that's it for us from Streaming Demons. Like, subscribe, all that noise. Next up, by the way, going make this ether. put We get to interview Kevin Smith for What's Cracking.
00:45:53
Jo
Oh, whoops. Let that one out. But by the time you guys see this, you know, I can say it. So, haha. But now you know first. Anyways, watch out for the interview.
00:46:04
Jo
Watch out for Dogma November 7th in the theaters in UK and Ireland. Myself, Joe, and my co-host, Emily, we bid you good day. Bye, y'all.

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