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Ep. 171 – “Ladies & Girls Kissing”
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This week is all about church boomers tangling with technology! There has been a plethora of stories involving older religious figures embarrassing themselves on the internet, and we selected a few of our favorites to discuss. We have the hapless head honcho of Hillsong’s “hacked account” tweets, the band of benevolent nuns burgled by bogus AI bishops, and finally, the salacious self-sabotage of a sanctimonious Catholic shock jock. Strap on those boots, Christian soldiers! We’ve got muck to rake…
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Controversies Surrounding Church Militant
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The head of a far-right website, Church Militant, Voris often claimed the Catholic Church was secretly run by an international gay crime syndicate. In a 2020 webcast, he referred to the Black Archbishop of Washington as a term many viewed as both a racial and gay slur, provoking an outraged backlash from Church scholars and officials.
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A single slur that's both gay and racist. He called him an African Queen. Oh. I was thinking something so much worse. Yeah, I was thinking something much, much worse than that. That's actually okay. I'd not say that's good. It could be a lot worse.
Hosts' Personal Hygiene Anecdotes
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Hey everybody, we are back with another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And I'm Jeremiah. And today we have the privilege, yet again, of hanging out with Jeremiah and his second chin. It's really a nice angle that we get to see Jeremiah at. He is laying down on his couch with his head awkwardly propped up because he's old and his back hurts.
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I think I'm actually, aren't I younger than both of you? Isn't that, makes me even better. Oh, man. Well, you know, it is what it is. Me, me, me. My back hurts. I gotta be honest though. We established that Jeremiah may have been put at like a, at a, a, a bodily disadvantage by the amount of hygiene he was taught as a kid. Yes. While Sam and I both just never washed our hands and ate our boogers and all that. So now we're strong.
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Wait, we were talking about that before the podcast, but Casey, I didn't hear you confirm that. Did you not wash your hands before you ate too? No. Yes. Okay. I would wash my hands if I had recently touched an amphibian. I wouldn't say I always did a very good job, but there was definitely the expectation that you would wash your hands before coming to dinner. Did I just flick them under the water really quickly a lot of the time? Definitely. I've lived outside most of the time. I'm not saying I was a ton cleaner than y'all.
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Licking them under the water is emphatically not washing your hands. We learned during COVID that if you don't sing the ABCs under like 115 degree water while scrubbing vigorously the first layer of your skin off, then you're going to kill all of your friends and family.
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I tell you what, I did feel bad during the first month of COVID when there was videos about how to properly wash your hands. I was like, I've never washed my thumbs in my life. I've washed the other four fingers and my palms. I just figured the thumbs are from the knees down. They just get washed by the water just being there. Even though what you grab all of your shit with, I'm sure you used utensils, but
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I mean, for some stuff. If you had like chicken, like bone in chicken, talking drumsticks, you know, you're picking those bad boys up. We know it. We know you're not cutting that up with a fork and knife. No, no, that's true. But yeah, I was like, man, I I've probably been washing my hands. Nothing wrong. But I've been doing a substandard job of washing my hands my entire life. Yeah. Thumbs don't get a lot of attention from me either.
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I don't know, I feel like if I'm washing my hands, I'm taking care of the thumbs, but I didn't often wash my hands. I remember like, I gotta say before, if we, I would, we'd be over friends. This is what's funny. And I do this kind of shit as a parent now, but it's like, we'd be at a friend's house for dinner and their parents would be like,
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you guys need to wash up for dinner. And my parents would be like, yeah, what do you guys think you're doing? Like, they'd like add on like, like, that's the expectation at our house too. And it's like, this is, oh, that's where you first learn to pretend that you're like, your family does stuff like other families. You do learn that pretty like early on, you go,
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Oh, societal pressure says X. So we're going to now pretend like we do that. And if your parents, I don't want to. I don't want to be the kid that doesn't wash their hands because even your friends will be like, you don't wash your hair. You don't want to deal with that. You don't want to deal with that. You don't wash your hands from your other friends. So you go. Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah. We were just like so excited about dinner. Yeah, I think you don't want to be perceived as gross when yes. Yeah. Like that's a bad moniker to get.
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Oh, like I remember the first time I was like it got pointed out. This is one of my homeschool groups. I can also emphatically say that I remember this day vividly less because of the story I'm about to tell and more because I was concerned that I didn't set my VCR correctly to record the episode of Pokemon where where Venus or uses his like ultimate attack. And I just really wanted to see that episode. And I
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And in homeschool co-op was during the time where new Pokemon episodes were airing. So like that was really important to me. And I think that that's why I remember this day better than any other day at homeschool co-op. But it was there was a kid who had like his think under his fingernails where I was like just all dirt was like caked in there real deep. And these girls pointed that out. They're like, oh, my God, your fingernails.
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And he was like, what? He had no idea. He didn't register as wild. We were probably 11 years old, maybe. And they were like, that's disgusting. He's like, what? He's like, it's just dirt. What's the big deal? It's just dirt. And they're like, yeah, why is there so much of it under your fingernails?
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I don't know because I was. Yeah, it's weird thinking about now because afternoon. He probably wasn't digging in the dirt with his bare hands that morning. So he put on your eggs. Yeah, he's probably been there for a little while. But I remember like I feel like that is my first vivid memory of like knowing that my fingers were kind of probably fucking dirty to a little bit. But like that was that's one of my earlier memories of
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the oh yeah wow that's nasty like you just jump in on it because you don't want to be a fucking weirdo so yeah just thinking about it like I mean I would be outside playing all the time and you know like climbing trees and running around barefoot doing all that stuff and like
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I definitely wasn't taking a shower or a bath every single day, no matter what, right? I was definitely going in and out of the house a lot. And I wasn't like washing my feet and my hands every single time I went in and out of the house. Like we were probably all really nasty. Look at your average eight-year-old and just think like how gross they are. All eight-year-olds smell like sweaty palms.
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That's the population I work with and they are nasty. Children are disgusting. They're constantly sticking their tongue out and like licking the boogers that are dripping out of their noses. The kids are so fucking gross. Dude, it's like if you have to if you have to shake their hand or something like that, it's like petting a dog that lives outside most of the time. They're going to have that like dusty feeling on your hands like your fingers turn black and greasy after you're done touching them.
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When you high five a kid, it feels like you just high five some like scotch tape. It's like not super sticky, but just sticky enough to feel the tug. I tried to stay away from little kids, but if I have to interact with them, like that's why fist bumps are pretty safe. Yeah. Thank you society for commissioning fist bumps as a great reading and a salutation.
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Do you remember a time growing up like in school or whatever where you suddenly had the realization that you stunk?
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Yeah. Yes. I do. I can tell you mine. I was working at VBS. Uh, I was doing the skits. I was in high school and it was, um, early high school, early enough. I, I, I feel like I was a late bloomer when it comes to like being stinky. Like I remember playing basketball and kids like reeking and being like, I don't
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I legitimately just didn't really start to smell bad till later. And so I was a late adapter to deodorant and shit. But I knew pretty quickly when I needed to start using it. And maybe I was 13, 14, and it was one of the first times I remember that I had forgotten to wear deodorant. And I remember being like,
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at my church, had a sweatshirt on, was feeling warm. I went to the bathroom. I was like going to take my sweatshirt off and stuff while I was in there, because that's just when I realized I was warm. And I did. I started taking off and realized that my armpits smelled so fucking bad that I was like, I can't take this off. And I remember like putting soap into my hands and trying to like wash my armpits in the church bathroom. You took a whore shower.
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Yeah. And I was like, I don't know what to do. So I just put my sweatshirt back on and I made sure my elbows stayed against my rib cage like a fucking chicken. Did they have cans of Lysol or anything in the bathroom or any of those smell dispensers for getting rid of the poops? No, nothing. Time to find out if I'm allergic.
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Yeah, dude, I was like, I was like, it was a feeling. It's like that mortified feeling of like, this is social suicide. I'm about to walk. I'm about to walk out there and just it's over for me. And I want to say that was the same VBS where like, because churches are awesome about how they spend their money usually. And they're like, how can we make this more fun? And it was like a desert themed VBS. And we, we found a local camel owner to
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to hire, to bring camels into the church. Okay. Who's a local camel owner? What state is this in? This is Massachusetts. I didn't know. How did you pick this one? Well, it was the prettiest of the camels. I mean, you saw this camel. And I can tell you that because I got to kiss this camel. That is what happened. So the kids had a competition where they were like,
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had to, whatever. I don't know if they were raising money, getting points. I don't remember how they did it, but it was pretty much like there was me and then the other person doing the main character in the VBS skits and each team had a person. And if the other team, if your team lost, you had to kiss the camel. It's like whoever showed the top of their head the most during the puppet show. Yeah. Which I was. You had to talk to the puppets around that time too.
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But this was independent of my puppetry. My puppetry and my acting. I was also on the puppet team. We should compare notes at some point. Yeah, I would like to. I was classically trained puppeteer here. Classically
Dental Hygiene and Personal Stories
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trained. I don't know what school were you from.
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College but for sock puppets I can tell you where from the same one as me because I saw the top of your hand going up like that It should be the bottom. No, I did it raw hinges. Oh, yeah, cuz it gives them that unnatural like yeah Exactly exactly. It's like they're getting face fucked. You don't want your puppet looking like they're getting face fucked I also another memory from
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The one thing I went to, the one puppet event I went to where you like, I don't know, it was a conference that my church paid for. The hotel that we stayed in. I watched a few good men. That's the first and only time I've seen a few good men. And I watched the whole thing. And that was a impactful thing for me because I still have a very clear memory of that.
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But anyway, kiss this camel camels have green spit. It's really awful. Their tongues are just they're wild. It's it's it's horrifying. It's a it's I think this might fall into the category of a slightly traumatic experience getting tongue punched by a fucking camel. A camel with tartar. Oh, my God. This camel had plaque.
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because he is a non-native camel that's addicted to beetle meth. I was afraid it was going to spit directly into my mouth, but it didn't. You camel spit or is that just llamas? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a for real thing, yeah. We were told the kids don't get that close because they'll just...
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Where were you supposed to kiss the camel on the lips? Yes, I went in at church event. Yes, dude. I was molested by a camel by a camel by a camel at church. I'm sure a jury would see you as the as the victim. Yeah. Like, that's one of those things that it's just, man, sometimes we ought to do an episode about like stuff from the 90s growing up in church. We're like, it's a good thing the Internet didn't exist, like stuff that
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I'm not saying it's good that that stuff happened, but I'm glad we have the stories before the Internet existed to share it all and get it shut down immediately. Yeah, I had a picture of it. It didn't quite capture the tongue action, but there was lip contact in this picture. So well, back to realizing that you stink. Yeah, that's right. That's how we got here. I definitely remember. I don't remember the specific instance where like I noticed that, oh, no, I have
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body odor, you know, but I do remember like my mom going like, Oh, it's time. It's, it's probably time to start wearing deodorant. So she just like gave me a stick of like my, what my dad used. He always used that like speed stick, like crappy smelling, like it gets residue on everything. Speed stick, speed stick. And he did the musk scent every time. It's just kind of smelled like.
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I don't know, like an old leather item at an antique store. And it was like, it was the opposite of antiperspirant. Like I'm pretty sure it was perspirant. Like it encouraged you to sweat. And it was like you were just lubing your hinges with like a stanky smelling slime.
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So like half the time in the days where they thought that if you sweat more, it just sweat the bad smell out. Like just no, we got to like multiply the sweat. Yeah, similar to bloodletting bloodletting for stinky pants. And then that's why they like just drink a Gatorade and slather on deodorant. You'll be fine. Dude, your arms are so slippery, though. Like the minute you started sweating, like
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Like it was just, it just felt like you had like baby oil in between your arms and your body and you were just like slip sliding like crazy. It helped you slip out of those noogies that all the bullies tried to give you. He was like, whoop.
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Yeah, I mean, I guess there there's positive effects, too. Nobody likes being doggy. I don't know if you have a story. I have a question, but Jeremiah, is there a moment where you realize you started to smell bad? No, I've been thinking I for body odor. No, I do have something for bad breath, though. Oh, let's hear it. That's good. That's really good. Well, it's not like a big story, but like, do you guys have you ever had tonsil stones? No. Well, I've heard about it.
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This is when your bad breath like calcifies into gravel, right? Yeah. You basically get like mineral deposits in the back of your mouth. There's like little pockets and folds of skin and you get like these little white pebbles will get kind of embedded back there. And if they grow from the top, they're stalactites. And if they grow from the bottom, they're stalagmites.
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And whichever direction they come from they smell like death it's like you wake up one day and all of a sudden your breath is just horrible and you can't fix it and you don't know what's going on. And these aren't that small either like they're you know they're smaller than like a kernel of corn. I'm trying to think of maybe grains of rice.
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I just got this lump in my throat. What do you do about it? What's the solution? Where do they come from? With the deep throat and your toothbrush? You need to scrub your esophagus. I'm pretty sure it's the same thing that plaque is. It just gets built up in these little pockets, like in the back of your throat. It just gets built up there just like it can build up on your teeth.
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And if they get built up in there, then it just becomes like a hard little stone just stuck in the back of your mouth. Abominable man, Pearl. Pretty much. I wonder if I feel like I might have had one of those before, but I like used like a toothpick to like scratch it off. That's basically what I did.
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Yeah, when I figured out when I figured out what it was, I had something softer than a toothpick. I don't remember what it was, but something like some extension and I just gagged a whole bunch and got them out over time. Yeah. Over like a day or two. But like it smells like death and like you have a bad taste in your mouth and your breath is bad. I just chew a minty gum as much as I could. It was it's I never noticed a bad breath smell. I feel like I've noticed having them once or twice in my life and I was able to get rid of them.
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maybe yours is just too calcified semen yeah well and to be fair well he had been working on that gag reflex he just said oh it's gagging all the time like oh okay i see where this i see where this is going like to be fair i didn't know your experimentation phase
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Sure, sure. I didn't know how long they'd been there, though. Like, I just knew the day that something smelled bad enough that, like, I was up in the mirror with a flashlight shining it down my throat, like, because I thought I saw something. And that's when I found that, like, they could have been there for months getting bigger and starting to stink. Like, you have no idea. I mean, it's kind of like having a cavity, right? Like, you could go between dentist visits, you could have a cavity the entire time and not know it if it's not causing you pain. That is so wild.
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Yeah, I can't think about it too closely or I'm going to say it makes all the things Casey will literally like extract maggots from the intestines of a dead deer out in the middle of the woods while holding his phone flashlight in his mouth just to get a couple of antlers to soak in acid and show off six weeks later. But talking about a little bit of buildup in the back of your throat makes him makes him this uneasy. It's really interesting.
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Well, because it's also something where like you as soon as you know, they're there. Of course, your tongue is like trying to find them. Right. And as soon as your tongue finds it, then you can taste it because you're touching your tongue. Maybe I didn't have the same thing. I'm going to look this up after because. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yours was semen. Yeah. It's maybe it's making more sense than it is now. It was a pearl. My I was just creating pearls in the back of my throat. Dude.
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Okay, do you have people in your life that have terrible breath that you like debate telling all the time? Yes. Oh, yeah. I could think of a friend immediately where I'm like, if you're in the passenger seat and they're talking, you go, oh, God, I should probably say something. Yeah, I have one of those. I feel so embarrassed for this person. Like, I know I should tell them.
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But it's just, you know, I mostly care about me. Yeah, not having to handle it. That's why you just start. Now, when I think of these people and I think of those people who have gum on them and they go, anyone want gum? Are they saying that because there's a person in the vicinity that is that person and they're doing a neutral way of like,
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Who would like it? Cause no one turned. I've never. So God bless them. Yeah. I've never turned. Anytime anyone's been like, do you want gum? I've never said no. Like of course you want gum. On the off chance it's you. You should just go for it.
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Yeah. Oh, absolutely. But maybe I need to start carrying gum more often is like a self-defense tactic where you just go, you get in the car and it's like, oh, their breath is awful. You go, I'm going to pull out a piece of gum and you go, do you want a piece of gum? I've never met anyone who's turned up down a piece of gum. Oh, I'll turn down gum. Why?
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because it ruins whatever you're drinking. It's because you're always drinking fucking Code Red Malibu or something. It doesn't ruin water. Water's still tasty. Water's even better. That's the most Casey response. Casey's the only adult I know who is like drinking things consistently that are ruined by gum.
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Well, to be fair, I mean, I know some adults that are drinking tea all day long, like, you know, just like, lipped in unsweetened tea, and that would be pretty ruined as well. That ruins your teeth. That's true. People who talk about tea, get out of here. Hey, I was drinking a lot of tea in January. I know. I momentarily forgot that you were a tea guy. I didn't talk about it too much.
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I feel bad about my dental hygiene because I've never had a cavity. I've never had any major problems like that. My teeth were a little crooked though. About five years ago, I looked into getting an Invisalign because my dentist told me that my bite pattern and wear patterns on my teeth would probably wear some of them out a little prematurely. Of course, because in this country, teeth are luxury bones. Replacing them is very expensive.
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Envisalign's not cheap, but the dentist said, like, yeah, I think you can actually, you can fix most of the issues here if you do Envisalign. And I probably should have gotten braces when I was a teenager, but it wasn't that bad. So the dentist at the time told my mom, like, eh, it's up to you. You can do it or you cannot do it. And my mom at the time, I was very grateful. She was like, yeah, let's not bother with it then. If it's not a big deal, you know, don't sweat it.
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Of course, in retrospect, I wish she had done it because, you know, everything's horrible when you're 16, so might as well just get braces over with then, too. Oh, yeah. Adult braces seem obnoxious. Yeah, but are you familiar with how Invisalign works? Like, they put dots on your teeth, and then you have your teeth formed to this mold, and then they print you all these, you know, trays that you have to click in, and they click onto the dots on your teeth, and they reshape your teeth.
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Oh, I didn't know it clicked in like that. I thought it was more like a mouth guard type thing. No, so a lot of the ones you can do online, like Smile Direct Club or whatever, those ones are just more like a mouth guard. Invisalign, you have to have a dentist install it. They were putting teeth colored dots on a bunch of my teeth and hardening them down with a UV light. And if I didn't have the Invisalign things in, my teeth felt serrated. It would actually cut up the insides of my lips.
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But from five feet away, no one can tell you have them on and you feel like you have a lisp, but most people can't hear the lisp. So in that sense, it's really good. But anyway, the significant thing about it is you can't have them in when you eat, obviously, you can drink water, but that's it. So if you take them out, like to eat lunch, when you're done, you have to floss.
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brush your teeth and gargle with mouthwash before you put them back in. Cause you get any food stuck in between the Invisalign or in your teeth, like it'll start stinking and be bad and whatever. And you have to clean the trays out pretty frequently. And like, if you do all of that, it's totally fine. But that meant I was flossing and brushing and using mouthwash and stuff like three times a day and being very particular about it because I wanted to make sure I wasn't like leaving food in the retainers. Yeah. And once I got used to that feeling of my teeth being that clean, I was like, Oh,
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I think my teeth have probably been terrible for like disgusting for years. And like, you know, I mean, I'm, I'm brushing every day. Like I was flossing the day before the dentist office, like everybody else, like I was doing all the normal stuff. And, but just by comparison, I'm like, Oh, my teeth are like three times cleaner now. This is insane. So I feel like I probably had really bad breath for years. I'm guessing. I mean, maybe I didn't actually, but I feel like a bad breath friend. You could have been the guy. Yeah.
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You know what, you get to a certain age, it's kind of like snoring. It's like, is it really a problem if it only affects your wife's happiness?
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It. Yeah. But that's that's such a distracting smell. You're like, I'm trying to have a conversation here with you and I can't I can't do it. I can't think about what to say next because I'm like trying to control my breath. I'm trying to to breathe in when you breathe in and breathe out when you breathe. I'm trying to like sync up our breathing patterns in order to not be uncomfortable here.
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And it can't be that these people just aren't having great dental hygiene. I think mine's just fine. I don't think mine's amazing. But when I do smell that, I go, have I ever been that? Is that me? And no one's saying it? Is no one saying that to me where I should know that about myself? Right? Yeah, that's always the worry is like makes you sell. I think the point of this is just be a bro to other people, you know, discrete way to tell them if it was you, you'd want to know.
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So a lot of your concentration goes to that. It's wild.
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I would want to know if we're all like, oh, do I say something? I don't know because I don't want to make it weird. Right. But if I want to know, I want to let me take you so ballot stones. Yeah. Have you ever been mad at somebody who told you, though, or frustrated that somebody told you?
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No, of course not. You'd be like, Oh my God. Thank you. Now I know socially anxious people who listen to this podcast. That's your cue. Just repeat that in the back of your head. I've never been mad at someone who told me I've never been mad at somebody. But you know, there's always the chance that we mad at you specifically this time. So maybe keep it to yourself. Yeah. Perfect. I don't mean to interrupt you, but you smell like a turtle cage. That's a distinct smell. Yeah. I turtles amphibian. Uh,
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those reptiles reptiles those are reptiles that's their water they get sticky because I do have a bearded dragon also a reptile and they don't have a scent at all bearded dragons have no scent which is why other animals like dogs and cats do not care about their existence at all they don't they don't really like a desert wizard right yeah yep pretty cool
00:27:31
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Also, don't get a bearded dragon. It's just a thing to have to take care of that doesn't show you love or affection unless you're a reptile person. I don't know. I'm not a huge animal person, but I have a lot of them against my will. It just happened to me one day. Things just show up in my house and I have them. Anyway, let's OK. This has been fun.
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Listen to us as Sam processes through, maybe he didn't want kids. Okay, what's next? Dude, his dragon ends up dead over the next week. No, here's the thing. This is what I also hate about myself. Don't tell us you're not going to murder your dragon.
00:28:07
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Here's how we know I won't this is this is something I do truly hate about myself is like I I've had opportunities to get rid of it like to rehome it and I don't know if it's my ego I don't know what it is I go of course we can't do that you can't you can't get an animal and then get rid of it It's just like this weird feeling that I have you have a foster kid move out. I
00:28:29
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No, he still lives with me. I he's 20. It's about time. I mean, you know, he could. Sorry. I'm sorry. Good. As the words were leaving my mouth, I was like, this is not this is not a good thing to say. No, I just I can't get rid. So even like one of my dogs, his name's Albus, he is just riddled with anxiety. He's bitten.
00:28:55
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Uh, like nipped out. He isn't really quite full blown, but he's terrified of new people. So he'll like, we have to put a muzzle on him when new people come around or people doesn't know well. And it takes him like five minutes, 10 minutes to be like, Oh, okay. I'm safe. Everything's good. And then he won't get off of that person. He's like, this is now my new best friend and I never want to get off of that. Like he'll, it's just all these one eighties anxious as a motherfucker dog drives me nuts.
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It's hard to find people who want to watch him because he's just so needy and high maintenance. And I'm like at the same time, I don't really want him. I don't I don't I don't always want him. But I just feel like even I I like my animal. I love my animals. I but I fucking hate owning them. It's where I like Elvis would be a good police dog. Yeah.
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Yeah, maybe. If he thinks you're an intruder. Albus turns off the body cam.
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But yeah, I just, oh my
Sam's Relationship with His Dog
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God. But I would never get rid of him. And one of the things my wife likes to remind me of is that I have said that one of the reasons I hate him is that he's made me love him. And I fucking do hate him for that. Isn't that every dad with a pet they didn't want, though? Yeah. The pet always wins.
00:30:23
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Fuck you. I all I insult him constantly. And there is some things that my dog does that are pretty funny. What? So if I get angry, he knows immediately that it doesn't even if it's not directed towards him, it's been directed towards him enough. But I'm just like something pisses me off. I'm a mumbler. I like mumble shit under my breath when I'm mad and alone. I'm like, fuck this fucking shit. So fucking goddamn tired of the fucking shit like you do that. You do that.
00:30:50
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And I start doing that and he looks at me, he gets up from wherever he is and he goes and like hides under a bed all the time. He unsnaps his holster. He unsnaps his holster? Yeah.
00:31:05
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Or he'll like go and we have a bell at my back door that he rings and he wants to go out. He'll like immediately go over and ring the bell and he stays outside until he doesn't think I'm mad anymore. And it's pretty funny. Sounds like the dog does a better job containing his emotions than you do. Oh, maybe. I need an outlet man.
00:31:26
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That's what you're supposed to have a dog so you can kick it. Yeah. Try biting. Yeah. Bite my dog. I'll bite my dog when I get mad. Anyway, I don't, this is all, we don't need anything. I don't know why we're, I even went down. You would get rid of a bearded dragon, but you've become addicted to pooping into sawdust.
00:31:43
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Yeah, that's right. We won't have a reason to buy it anymore without drawing suspicion. We went from turtles being reptiles, not amphibians, to me owning a bearded dragon, to me hating my animals, to me talking about the dog I have that I hate. Here we are. We did it.
00:31:59
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Uh, now I want to talk about something else. Um, I'd like, I'd love, I'd love when celebrities get saved. Uh, they just, they need, like, because it becomes who they are. They, they got to talk about a lot. We've seen a few lately.
00:32:20
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Shay dozer is a stand-up comic he I think what's notable about him is he's got like a bunch of face tattoos He's like full tatted up the guy with like the tattoos like on his neck and stuff, too Yeah, he's got the dagger on his face Funny comic and you know, I saw him on tiktok it maybe a couple years ago where or reels or whatever a couple years ago because I
00:32:47
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He would joke about that. Like he's getting into stand-up and he's like, you can't go up in front of a crowd of people and not immediately address the elephant in the room, which is like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking him up. This is the guy I was thinking of. Yeah. So it's like he would make jokes about, you know, ruining his life. And the only opportunity left for him is stand-up comedy once you fucking tattoo your face and shit like that.
00:33:09
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But he's a funny guy. But he released a post recently on Instagram where he like he's Catholic. He got full blown saved. Well, that doesn't count. Catholic doesn't count. Oh, he's he's a sincere kind, it seems. But that's fine. I think it was Catholic either way. Then the other one, which this isn't super surprising. He's been on his spiritual journey for a minute. We see Shia LaBeouf gets he's Catholic now, too.
00:33:37
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a lot of people finding Catholicism. Exvangelicals went Catholic. Everyone's just like, Oh, it's beautiful. If you can forget about the priest molesting kids part. Um, but
00:33:48
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The one that's fun to me recently is the L.A. Inc. star Kat Von D recently got saved and she's just doing some fun stuff with it. Here's just a I mean I have a goofy article from you. There's a few articles written about it but a tattoo artist Kat Von D. This is you know you know that article you know that's probably a bunch of horse shit.
00:34:15
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Uh, but it's like the people kind of horseshit where you're like, this is what we want when we're talking about celebrities, just like bad writing, picking at the dumbest stuff. So, uh, all right. So it says Kat Von D is asking people to pray for herself and her husband amid a surge of backlash over her decision to become Christian. Clearly she's not a Calvinist. Um,
00:34:38
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Since it's her choice, but there's a I also love that it's her decision the backlash over her decision to become Christian means that she not only gets to experience salvation and Joining the one true faith, but also already and immediately gain the joy of being persecuted for that faith I think that's that's beautiful and validating that she made the right choice so
00:35:04
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some fun things about it right it says uh she has since been candid about her faith though she's been targeted by trolls criticizing her decision to embrace religion or arguing that she doesn't quote unquote look christian due to her fashion or style where are you reading this from this is from unilad
00:35:26
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OK, OK, so this is a normal. Yeah, just like a people kind of bullshit. Yeah, yeah. Cat opened up about the impact of such comments during an appearance on Relatable podcast, where she explained that while her husband, musician Raphael Reyes, has supported her on a journey, he's not.
00:35:45
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chosen to become a Christian himself. Oh, I didn't realize that. That's pretty cool. But I think what's kind of cool or not cool, I think what's interesting is that Kat Von D, obviously she's known as like the L.A. Inc. person, fully tattooed, whatever. She has decided to start like blacking out all of her tattoos. Which to be fair, I think that's becoming a much more common thing lately. Yeah.
00:36:14
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Yeah, and she doesn't seem like she's blacking out all of them. It's like ones that she says she doesn't. They don't represent her. Yeah.
00:36:23
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Her latest form, I guess this. OK, but I think this is a fun or interesting conversation because blacking out tattoos that don't align with who you are now is kind of like the it's isn't that just getting tattoos when
Tattoo Discussions and Personal Beliefs
00:36:40
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you're young? I mean, so we've talked plenty of times about how
00:36:46
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We had some of the worst ideas possible for the kinds of tattoos we could've gotten our twenties like bible verses this or that and we didn't we avoided getting tattoos.
00:36:56
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And thankfully, I would have a lot I might want to cover up now. Well, you said we avoided getting tattoos. I do have tattoos. I don't know about you guys. Do you have religious tattoos? Uh, no. That no. And if you. Yeah. So. OK. Yes. All the ideas I had for tattoos when I was 17, whether religious or not, I'm very glad I didn't get any of them because they all suck. Yeah. You don't think all lives matter is a religious tattoo. Oh, yeah. Casey, you guys know PRS guitars, right?
00:37:26
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Uh-huh. You know, the bird in lays. Yes. I wanted to get the bird in lays on my on my forearm and I did not own a PRS at any point. I do now. I didn't have one then. And I I wanted to get that tattooed on my forearm and I am so glad I did not do that. I was never a good enough guitar player to do that. That would have been lame, but also
00:37:54
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ambiguous enough that like you could have passed it off. Right. But I probably would have like I wouldn't have blacked it out. I would have replaced it with something else, which I guess is what you're talking about, Sam. But I don't know. She was really heavily tattooed. Right. Like it's probably more than you could actually tattoo over. Probably blacking out is the only option. I guess what's so fascinating to me is that you're like, I've made this change in my life.
00:38:19
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And I'm diving into it 100 percent. So I'm going to make like I'm going to make the irreversible decision to black out everything I have in my body that no longer aligns with who I am now, which whatever people can have different feelings about the tattoos they have. I have heard of so many people who got quote unquote saved later with their tattoos. Like this is just part of my story. Whatever. I think, again, to me, all I'm hearing
00:38:45
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is that people need to stop getting tattoos that are meaningful just stop doing that forever the only thing you can do the only tattoos of meaning that anyone should get is dead family members because you can't hate them someday they can't ruin it for you no that's not that's not true yeah you find out your grandfather was a nazi you're like ah fuck
00:39:10
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Yeah, so I don't feel like that's really safe. How many times have you found out something uncomfortable about a dead family member? Honestly, never. I have some ideas of like things that would be dope. Like my grandfather was an artist turning some of his stuff into the cool tattoo. It's like my grandfather isn't going to disappoint me at this point. I know my grandfather's story.
00:39:34
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I know that my aunts and uncles don't have the same, all have the same fondness for him because when they were growing up, he really just wasn't a great dad. But he did 180 his life later. That's not enough for some of them, but it's whatever. My relationship to him is fine. I know who he is and what he's about. My grandmother, yup.
00:40:02
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Um, or my kids, right? I know for a fact, I'm going to love my kids forever. Even if, you know, they like lame things later on or some shit, like that does not extend to the dog. No. So I will not get a tattoo of my dog, but kids and dead family members that you already have a fondness for. I love the idea of somebody getting a tattoo of like their mom's face and be like, yeah, she's just right. She was my hero. She was a veteran.
00:40:30
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I was in Iraq and then finding out afterwards that she was the lady in the pictures that Abu Ghraib.
00:40:44
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at this point it's like if you're gonna get for me it's just like find a cool artist find some cool art shit that looks dope shit that's not gonna not look dope later it doesn't have to have meaning i don't just all this that and that was me when i was young oh all these i don't want a tattoo unless i can find something that's truly meaningful as though like branding your body with something meaningful changes
00:41:07
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the way you've ruined your body. I think it's people just want to feel like, because they're going to get criticism from some people for getting a tattoo. So if you say it's something meaningful, or if it is something meaningful, you can kind of circumvent some of that of like, well, I'm so dedicated to this thing, or I care so much about this thing that like, you cannot like that you that I got a tattoo, but you can't criticize the meaning behind it. Versus when someone's like, I got these I got these tribal things around my arm because it looks sick.
00:41:34
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Like there's not, or I got the monster logo or I know a guy who got the Ram, the Dodge Ram logo. There's not a whole lot you could do about that, right? Like people have the right to kind of judge you. It's your body, but it's okay for people to judge you. But like, you know, you get a Bible verse or something or like it's for my grandmother who died. It kind of circumvents a little bit and people can't be a total dick about it.
00:41:59
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You are right. It does deflect awkward conversation or people being like, why did you do that? That's true. It's a good point.
00:42:09
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I'm 35. I think white people should only get kanji letters. Yeah, kanji letters, okay. I'm 35 and I finally got my first tattoo over February vacation here. And it is not meaningful to me in any way, shape, or form. It's a songbird from Bioshock Infinite. Very strange philosophy that you've adopted here. Yeah, that's pretty dope. Can we see it? Well, a week after your first tattoo?
00:42:36
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What? No, no, I've had this philosophy. I feel like I even mentioned this on the podcast before, but maybe not. But I have been saying this. So that's all stop with the meaning, the quote unquote meaningful that because that's a red herring. You go, what's if because what people want is a tattoo. That's what they want. I want a fucking tattoo. And how do I justify it? Find something meaningful. And then they change their mind about shit later and they go, oh, fuck. Now I'm stuck with this thing. Are you worried that your dad's not going to pay your tuition if he sees it?
00:43:04
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I wish my dad was paying my tuition. I would I would have if my dad told me he would pay my tuition if I got whatever tattoo he wanted me to get. I would have done that. That would have been meaningful. Well, Kat Von D is yeah, she's taken a lot of heat online. She is. I was just kind of looking at the comments under that she posted a video.
00:43:30
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It says 17 sessions, almost 40 accumulative hours later, we are about 80% done with blacking out my body. So she's doing the whole thing?
00:43:41
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Most of it. I think she's unhappy with most of her tattoos because she thinks they now represent like witchcraft and shit like that. I mean, did they do you have pictures? I'm sure she's been photographed enough. There's pictures. Yeah. Is she going to witchcraft route? She did. She denounced witchcraft when she got saved. Was she promoting witchcraft before? That feels like something that a 50 year old mom does. How old is Kat Von D? Oh, good question.
00:44:08
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Oh, she's got to be. She's probably older than us, I would think. Yeah, she has. She is. She was famous in the early aughts. I'm looking at your comments on this post, by the way. Oh, my gosh. So what are people so mad about, like, that she's like turning her back on tattoos? Is mostly just the same stuff as always. She's 41. Oh, wow. Some white girl commented, therapy is easier, cheaper, nicer.
00:44:34
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and then it's just like the onslaught of comments underneath fighting with her. She found God, didn't you read her post? Seems like you'd know, but it's clearly not working. Maybe a refund and better vibes? That is her therapy and she doesn't care if it's cheaper. She's got more and more money than you could ever dream of. Oh, I love those comments. Dude, the comments on Instagram posts are always ridiculous.
00:44:58
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Yeah, it's the new YouTube for sure. It's the contest to have the worst lease informed take possible. Yeah, 17 sessions, 40 hours, 80% done. She said, was addressing why she chose to cover her tattoos rather than laser remove them, which
00:45:18
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Well, yeah, I think she probably like super pain. I actually did start lasering tattoos. And although I think laser tattoo removal is effective, I personally personally wasn't going to be effective at your entire body, though. That would be years and years and years of like just burning your body. That would be horrible. I wasn't a good candidate considering how much coverage I wanted to remove. Laser is a slow and extremely painful process that
00:45:46
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depending on your tattoo can take more than 10 sessions, including long healing periods in between. Flash to a clip of Anakin in the lava. Yeah, pretty much.
00:45:58
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Like I think at a certain point like you oh my gosh, I don't think that's even possible to do for that many though. Like laser laser removal is looking at Jeffree star. She's like, I hate you. Here's what's horseshit though to me is and not to her obviously, but I think that she got I don't I can't project I guess I I wouldn't be shocked if she changes her mind again later about something but she goes.
00:46:24
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Explaining why she wouldn't be covering up her tattoos, Vondi admitted that she no longer wanted to be reminded of them on a daily basis. Well, guess what? You will still be reminded of them on a daily basis when you look at your blacked out body and go, why did I do this again? Oh yeah, to cover up things that I hate. Yeah, but you won't see the specific ones though. Like when you have that much of your body tattooed, you're gonna forget, like once you're not seeing them anymore, you'll forget about some of the smaller ones and stuff, I'm sure.
00:46:51
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Like, I'm not just trying to be contrarian. Like, I think there is some logic to that. Like, whatever her reasons are, it just kind of sucks because she's made her career off being heavily tattooed. Yeah. So I wonder what she'll do next. If she goes full on like Mennonite, doily girl, no pants, no makeup sort of thing, and then has to like dismantle her makeup empire.
00:47:14
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Oh, that'd be so sick. I would love to see her commit that hard. In regards to people asking about the blackout, she said, I also really love the aesthetic. I know it's not for everyone, but it is very satisfying to see me to see a clean slate when I look down onto my arms.
00:47:32
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I, yeah, it's not for everyone. I look at Blackout and go, what, what, what? I don't, I truly can't begin to understand that direction. It makes very little sense to me. It's like, I fucked up my whole body that I have to just like hit the erase button, just ah, it's like when you're a child and you're doing a picture and you color outside the lines too much, you just fucking scribble all over that shit until it's unrecognizable.
00:48:00
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That's what I think of when I think of blackout time. I fucked it up too bad. Fuck.
00:48:06
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I know somebody who'd like to scribble over, uh, some, uh, some sketches that they did recently. Yeah. So is this a good pivot? Is that what we're doing? Oh yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. That's as close as it's going to come anyways. Um, so what Brian Houston, who is he the founder? He's the son of the founder, I believe, right? No, I think Brian, uh, yeah, I think, I think you might be right. Cause his dad was the one that they had to like cover up, uh,
00:48:34
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Right, I think his dad already stepped down. Hillsong founder, Brian Houston. Yeah. I guess Joel, Joel Houston's his son, isn't he? Joel Houston's the one that ran like. He stepped down, but he still apparently steps up from time to time. Ah, OK, OK. So he did step down from the church, but he's still tweeting. He's still a conservative thought leader, possibly guest pastor. We got a guest speaker today for the 52nd Sunday in a row. My father.
00:49:00
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Brian Houston. When someone steps down like from being the CEO of a company because of impropriety and now they're just a consultant. Yeah, they're just a 90% shareholder. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what did Brian Houston get up to? I'm sure he's just enjoying his retirement, laying low, being chill, right?
00:49:17
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Oh yeah, definitely trying to be chill. This is chillier than it's ever been. This is my favorite screw-up. Yeah. It's so fun when it happens, or when somebody accidentally likes a photo of something you're not supposed to be seeing. Yeah. And his is, as you'll get into it, but I'm just going to do the preface, his is the most boomer way to fuck up. I think that's what's so fun about it.
00:49:44
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Yeah, so he posted a tweet that just said, ladies and girls kissing.
Scandals and Mishaps in Religious Communities
00:49:58
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That's like a third grader typing ladies into Google. I think that was my first search when my parents left the house and I was 13 years old.
00:50:13
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And this dude Owls is Brian Houston, I gotta find out. So how are we supposed to interpret him saying, he said, Casey, can you read it again? He said, he said, I think it was, it was just ladies and girls kissing. What's the difference between ladies and girls in this context? Girls are younger than ladies. He's looking like some matronly figure in his, in his video, apparently.
00:50:41
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So he's 70 years old and he wants to see, I'm just trying to think of the way you would categorize this. Ladies and girls translate milf kissing teens, is that? Yeah, stepmom, lesbian, something or other. Yeah. Okay, so he tweeted it, then what happens?
00:51:06
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He realized his mistake like 15 minutes later and deleted it, but it was far too late. The internet had done what the internet always does.
00:51:21
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Dude, it's so funny. It's such a 70 year old thing to type. And like, you could just, I mean, I feel like you could see like Biden accidentally pushed that. How fucking good would that be, dude? Biden's not an idiot. He doesn't probably ever use his own phone. Like I doubt he's ever tweeted anything himself directly. That's why you have teams for that type of thing. Probably not. I'm not sure he even breathes on his own.
00:51:53
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Yeah, I love it because it's like you're 70 years old and you thought you were googling something he's probably even thought he put the safe search on but it's just that his His not safe search incognito mode, but he really just had his Twitter account on night mode and
00:52:14
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He probably had his thumb over the webcam, like, as he was typing it. Yeah. A little... Just trying to think of, like, what, what series of events would lead you to think that the Twitter new post thing is a search bar? Like, I know people do that type of stuff on Facebook, right? Like, it makes a little more sense on Facebook because the new post thing is an open text box right below the search bar.
00:52:38
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It's embarrassing when someone does it, but it's an older person you kind of understand. It doesn't not look like a search box. I feel like there's a lot more steps involved on Twitter. I don't tweet a whole lot, but you have to hit the new tweet button, then you have to type, then you have to click post. It's not like it's just an open box waiting for you to type. Is this on phone? I don't know what it looks like if he's using it on a computer. I've rarely seen it on a computer.
00:53:07
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But I don't know. I mean, he's 70. He fucked up. And 16 minutes later, it says he was it. It was deleted 16 minutes later, but not before it had been seen by some ex users who posted scathing responses. And eventually that eventually he statement said, rest assured, we're working on discovering how P.S. Brian was P.S. Is that pastor?
00:53:36
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I've never seen an abbreviation for pastor before. I'm not sure they're Australian, so who knows. P.S. Brian was hacked. Our team has ascertained that someone logged into his account from a location within the USA. We've a middle school boy who was trying to avoid his parents catching him looking at porn. It's like when somebody's obviously lying to you, so they had to add like they add like extra details that
00:54:02
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just to like, try to legitimize the lie. Dude, I watched a lie to me. I watched that shit for a season or two. And they're like, the more details you add, the more likely it is. Like, if it's like, that's it. It's like, oh, it was and then we did that. It's like you get too detailed and that means you've made the whole fucking story up.
00:54:21
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just to be the devil's advocate. And I don't know. You're doing it again. I know. I don't know anything about it. Just ask the motherfucker. He's a seven year old piece of shit who molested kids. Let's go, dude. Did she directly molested kids? I know. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to say let's rag on him for the stuff he actually did or we know that he did. But no, just to be the devil's advocate because this type of stuff does happen from time to time where like if
00:54:44
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I'm assuming he doesn't have a social media team still if he's not the head of the church anymore, but there are definitely scenarios. I'm trying to think there was a politician a few years ago where someone on a social media intern was logged into multiple accounts at the same time and did post a hot take that was supposed to be on their own account, but was on the politician's account. Of course, they get fired and all that stuff happens. It's not like this doesn't happen from time to time. It just doesn't seem-
00:55:10
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It doesn't seem like this would be a scenario where there's like the team, you know, had some fire tweets to run with for Pastor Brian. And this one just accidentally got sent out there incorrectly. If it is, it is the funniest prank. Oh, it is. Oh, God. Honestly, fantastic. I mean, I would also, because he's 70, it's not impossible that he was hacked because his password's probably horrible and he probably doesn't have two-factor authentication on. Like, I would also have zero problem believing that a 70-year-old's password's like,
00:55:40
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P Houston or something like Hillsong was wrong 666. We also know that the older you get, the more you turn in, you like go back. It's like a circle of going like, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a young man or a woman, I'm an adult, I'm an adult. And then you kind of go back to being a child again, you say childish things like I hang out with my, with my
00:56:07
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wife's grandfather who's in his 90s and he's he's you know sometimes you feel like you're sometimes it's like in my I'm having similar conversations with I with him that I am with my children at this point you know where you're like it does come full circle the older get now 70s isn't 90s but he's it's a trajectory right and you're moving in that direction maybe he's got all his faculties but that
00:56:34
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That sounds very much like the kind of search a 70-year-old man would do if they haven't had a lot of experience in searching for things that still make them hard. Ladies and girls kissing. They have a right to defend themselves. Well, I think what's really interesting about this is after they said he was probably hacked, I mean, Casey, do you have what they did next, what they posted?
00:56:59
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Uh, there is an amazing catch-all. Uh, well, it said rest assured we're working on who on discovering who hacked him, blah, blah, blah. Well, I like this one. This is a nice catch-all to like, just to really make room for grandpa to make a couple more mistakes. There he goes. Our team has ascertained that someone logged into his account. Oh, please. Uh, please disregard anything that seems out of the normal.
00:57:27
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For your safety, remember, Pastor Brian does not contact anyone privately. Send me nudes. Yeah, that could be exactly what it sounds like. Or honestly, it could be somebody being like, let's see how much money we can get. Like, hey, it's Pastor Brian. I need you to Venmo me a seed gift. Lord, real quick.
00:57:49
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But didn't they also- You shall receive a seed gift from me personally. After Brian has sent me nudes at the top of his clipboard. Didn't they also though tweet out like a-
00:58:01
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Um, you know, somebody tried to compromise the account, that type of thing with like a screenshot of an email that was for a different Twitter account that just sounded similar. I don't, I'm not sure. I need to look this up. I need to look this up. Hold on. Sorry. I didn't realize, I know. I just, I, sorry, you took me off guard. I didn't realize we were talking to someone who was like on his defense team and that's just what threw me. No, I'm not. I'm sure mine is truly the homes to your Hannity.
00:58:25
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Yes. Oh my. But who's Hannity? Am I the frog or the cunt? Oh my god. I have another, I actually have two interesting technology related stories here too. First one, short, but
00:58:46
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Um, it says AI robots copy Bishop's voices to con nuns out of thousands in terrifying scam. And it's basically like someone used AI to straight up like Nigerian prints, a bunch of guns out of thousands of dollars. Damn. That just came up in a conversation at my, uh, in-laws tonight. Cause, uh, my wife's grandmother is just that typical elderly person who
00:59:15
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The only reason I talk about my wife's grandparents versus mine is all of mine are dead. Uh, I'm sure they'd fall for the same things, but, uh, they, she's been scammed several times where like people call and say, we need your credit card because something's happening. And. Oh, that one got declined. Can you, do you have another one? And she just like goes through all of her credit cards and gives it's hilarious.
00:59:40
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It's honestly really funny. But what I mentioned tonight when we were over my in-laws that we thought was so funny is like someone had mentioned similarly like if at some point I feel like we're going to deal with
00:59:57
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she's gonna get calls from her, quote unquote, grandchildren. It'll just be like an AI scam. That is exactly what this is. Yeah. So maybe they heard this and that's what made the connection. But I was like, the irony of that though is what's so funny is no matter what, like we were over there last weekend and you know how sometimes you get mailed those dollar bills and it's like, but you can send it back. And if you send it back, like that seed money for this, have you guys ever seen that where you're mailed a dollar bill?
01:00:26
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Yeah, the normal the normal mailing like pyramid scheme. Yeah, it's not male fraud. It's just it's, you know, the I was in one for pencils, pencils from around the world when I think like the commemorative quarters. Same thing with those. Yeah. So she gets it. She's like, well, it's wrong to keep it. I should send it back. We're like, no, they want you to send it back. Don't send it back. Keep the fucking dollar. It's not a big deal. She's like, couldn't
01:00:52
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understand why it was like not why it mattered like she's just so fixated that she had to send it back because she doesn't want whatever they're selling really get sending it back is giving them it's kind of that's you're just on the on the fishing line still at that point so
01:01:11
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We're having this back and forth and I'm like, I mean, she's been scammed so many times. Like she, someone reaches out. It's like tech support, eight, seven, six, five, four, three at AOL.com. And she's like, well, they're from AOL.com. Of course, they, they need my credit card information to help me with the AOL account that I have.
01:01:31
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do you
01:01:51
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cancel it and figure out what was going on. But yes, she was paying $70 a month for an AOL account that she just didn't need. What does that come with? Nothing. It comes with an AOL email. That means that doesn't do anything. She was the only one left still had that account. Yeah. But what's so funny is you could forward email straight to your pager.
01:02:13
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She is one of the women, she's one of the most stubborn people on the planet. No matter what you say, you're wrong. You say it and she disagrees. You know those naysayer types? And I said, I was like, we were talking about it tonight. I'm like, holy shit, it's incredible. She will absolutely believe anything anyone says who calls her if they call her and ask her for a credit card number. But if her family tells her anything, they're completely wrong, 100%. She will never listen to anything anyone says.
01:02:43
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But she'll be scammed by a complete stranger constantly. That's got it. I love my beard and dragon more than her.
01:02:49
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Yeah, that that generation I feel like where it's like, I know everything. My family is just dumb. I raised them. I'm smart. And then it's just like someone with a fraudulent email or like a this any sort of phone scam calls and like, yes, take all take all my money. Isn't that called like powdered butt syndrome or something? Like once you've powdered someone's butt when they're a baby, you don't want their opinion on money. Yeah, yeah. Politics like
01:03:14
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I haven't heard that term, but that's exactly it. That's why I stopped. That's why like last time I saw my dad and he, uh, he, he says something like, uh, we're talking about, I don't even know what we were talking about. That's just because they're poisoning the water. They're pumping us full of vaccines. The second we come out the womb and my mom goes, who's day? And he's like,
01:03:38
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The imperial government and you're like and then I just sit there. I just as soon as he goes that direction I just pull out my phone and look at it. I just ignore it. I'm like He doesn't care what I have to say. We just I've established that because we've had too many arguments I'd like that like I wonder how you managed to like skirt the the total compliance
01:04:02
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like programming in your infinite wisdom. You got all the vaccines when you're born and you drank that water for 50 years, but now somehow you're the bastion of enlightenment? Come on, dude. Well, it says that these con men have been using artificial intelligence to alter their voices and faces, which is pretty crazy. They're actually doing this like video wise too.
01:04:27
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That's really kind of scary. Yeah. Religious leaders and beg for money for operations in Spain. The Guardia Civil Police Force said that up to 15 convents in the southern province of Jain have been targeted in the last few weeks. One posing as the Bishop of Jain, Sebastian Chico, telephoned several nuns asking them to transfer 5,000 euros to pay for surgery.
01:04:57
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The Covenant in Tora de Gemino, you didn't practice those before, and handed over 2,500 pounds. In the coastal town of Almeria, the bishop's office warned that fraudsters are using artificial intelligence technology to achieve the most perfect imitations of voices and, in the case of videos, even the face and gestures of the impersonated.
01:05:22
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And here's a nun that was too smart for this guy. So it says, one nun said she told a fraudster who telephoned her and introduced himself as the Bishop of Jane. You're not Don Sebastian. Your voice is very hoarse. But she said he replied, yes, I am. I need the money for an operation on my throat. And you got to like a guy who can think on his feet. Flawless logic. Flawless.
01:05:48
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Guess she's never heard of laryngitis. My voice sounds scratchy, but if I have a surgery, it'll be fine. Dude, this is on the Daily Star, and it's just a total trash site. It says, read next. Enraged camel bites owner's head off before villagers exact brutal revenge. That could have happened to me.
01:06:13
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You would have been a legend. I mean, you'd have been dead, but you've been a legend. The kid who got like, you'd be a urban legend for like the whole United States. You probably would be like camels would probably go extinct in the United States because of you. How cool would that be? Hunt them for their humpbacks, dude. I mean, they got to be some.
01:06:37
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Good, good stuff in there. Yeah, I do think it's crazy though that like, we've been hearing for like the last like five years that, Oh, AI is coming. AI is coming. It's going to be scary. It's going to do all these crazy things. And you're, you just get to a point where you're like.
01:06:54
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Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I guess we'll deal with that when it gets here. And now it's like every two days, there's another terrifying story where it's like AI in war game simulation launched every nuke in the country. AI tricked owner into falling in love with it. And then, I don't know, uploading it into the CIA.
01:07:18
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database or something. I don't know. It's just like a different scary story like every day about AI now. And it's always like with just regular ass people. But that's all it just needs enough regular ass people things for it to continue to build upon itself, right? Like
01:07:34
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Oh, we learned that like a person with an IQ score of less than X can fall in love with you in 40 sentences or less. You know, they're just like, it's all just a fucking, all we are is a math problem at this point. Yup. Yeah. It knows how to put in the cheat codes. We're just dealing with the real life game shark. AI's turned on God mode and it's just wrecking us already.
01:08:03
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Did you ever the first time you played a game where you could turn on the invincibility mode and realize that that like oh fuck yeah and then you do it and you're like
01:08:12
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Oh shit, this game suddenly is not any fun. Yeah. Also, you felt like you're getting away with something like an Age of Empires. I was like, there's cheat codes. You can get like cars with rocket launchers. And then you think about it later. You're like, well, they had to program those into the game. Like, I don't think that's a cheat. I think it's just an Easter egg. Like, it's just a fun thing they put in there. Like, it's not magic. Age of Empire. I spent a lot of time on Age of Empires, man. You can still play it. They they did remasters like remakes of one and two. They're on Steam.
01:08:42
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That's, well, I don't have a PC that could, well, it's pretty probably, I guarantee the requirements are pretty low for it, but I have a pretty shitty laptop that I use for school. So I don't imagine it would play it well, but I, there was so, that game was so fucking fun. I feel like I learned more about history through that game than I did from anything I learned in high school.
01:09:06
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That's probably true. I don't know if that's worse for your high school or good for Age of Empires, but I also made the same justification to my parents when I wanted to buy it, so I'm not going to argue with you. Well, if they wanted me to learn more about history, we need an American history version of Age of Empires. I would have learned so much more because history- Implications of that could get a little scary.
01:09:26
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I know. You're right. You know what? It's called Clash of Brothers. There's only two teams. The Civil War is like uncomfortably black. Sam picks the same one every time. The tech tree is the same between both of them, except one side has the worst submarines that you've ever heard of.
01:09:44
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And one side has completely free, like labor. You know, you're just like, this isn't fair. How, how am I going to compete with that? I have to mind shit? Fuck this. I'm the South now, bitch. I'm going to win. Oh my gosh. Oh man. Oh my God.
01:10:12
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Okay, so I have one more story here. Whoa, dude, we're coming this one. So this is an interesting I had never heard of this guy. So we've talked about Catholicism, right? And Catholicism was pretty lame, like your entire life. And now it's like people are getting back into it. But in a more mild way.
01:10:41
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And it's kind of whatever, you know, it's, it's ritualistic and it's sort of a, it's almost more of a discipline than whatever, but yeah, they do it. Don't go to confession. They still do all the same. Like, I mean, I don't know a Catholic really that goes to confession regularly at this point. Um, yeah, it feels like an aesthetic thing at this point or like a grounding practice, but like, we know like how Catholics feel about birth control and the people I know of.
01:11:11
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shift in that lane aren't like, yeah, I believe that now too. Like they kind of just like went Catholic, but did the pick and choose thing, which isn't really like.
01:11:21
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I wonder if they probably haven't done any sort of confirmation, right? I imagine a lot of people who've switched to Catholicism, they just started going. I wonder. I think there's a big wing of Catholicism that's not quite so militant about some of that kind of stuff. Yeah, maybe. There is a militant wing.
01:11:41
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It's a lot smaller than evangelicalism. I mean, there's not that many people taking Catholicism that seriously, it seems like, you know, there are a few go like I had a friend whose wife is Catholic and he had to technically convert, which he was happy to do because he didn't really care enough. But like, it actually found again, this is another person who found the aesthetic appealing and was into it.
01:12:05
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who grew up Evangelical, Southern Baptist. And it's like, in order to do that, it's like, oh, you gotta go through this big thing. They had to talk to their priest about birth control and what they're gonna do. I don't know, I feel like the priests, I mean, the schooling, it's all very, it's the same. It's not like you could find random, any Christian university, Evangelical university, and get slightly different things. Catholicism is very likes. It is very structured.
01:12:34
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I don't know because that's this guy's whole thing with it. So have you guys ever heard of somebody named Michael for us? I have. I don't think so. No. So he's kind of the he's like the Charlie Kirk of Catholicism.
01:12:51
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OK. Oh, no. Just as cool and similar predilections. So this guy, he said he kind of like made a name for himself as like, you know, a far right, very conservative, you know, politically active, militant Catholic who's like, you know, he tells it like it is and he's not ashamed of being Catholic.
01:13:15
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And, uh, you know, they, they belong to the real church. This is God's command. Like I went back and watched some of his old videos this evening with April and like, it was a lot of stuff like, you know, are Catholics the only ones that go to heaven? Oh, so what we grew up with. Yeah, it's very similar. It's like, it's very, uh, it mirrors a lot of the like, you know, conservative evangelicalism tropes, right? Uh, he's been very outspoken about.
01:13:45
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You know, all the big ones. So very anti gay, LGBTQ.
Church Militant's Origins and Controversies
01:13:52
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Now the Pope actually shift on that recently, didn't he? Yes. And he does not like the Pope. Well, you can't. Okay. Now he's okay. Well, I mean.
01:14:03
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Do you have a choice as a Catholic? Are you even really Catholic? If you just get into family members that are like hardcore Catholics and they don't think there's been like a legit Pope since I don't, I can't remember the sovereign citizens of Catholics.
01:14:17
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Kind of like the FLDS of Catholicism, basically. You don't recognize the current priesthood. He hasn't done this for so long, but until it wasn't convenient for us on a personal or political level now, it just isn't true. And it's not a true pope. A true pope would be calling another crusade. It's been 900 years since we had a true pope.
01:14:43
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Yeah, they would be calling out sin wherever they see it instead of trying to build bridges with the gays and whatnot. You know, saying that Islam is always about the gays. It's it's all those like check sheet things is what this guy was into. So he he started a
01:15:03
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So he moved, he lived in Michigan and started a website called like, I don't know. It was like, you know, Catholic vision TV or something. And the archdiocese there was like, Hey, we don't like you and what you're saying. And we want you to take Catholic out of the name of your thing here. And so he rebranded it as church militant.
01:15:28
Speaker
Oh, that doesn't sound right. That sounds like you immediately placed yourself on an FBI watch list. Yeah. And like, I don't know if he's like advocating for violence or anything like that, but he's just like a typical firebrand. You know, the Marjorie Taylor Green of this of this realm. Yeah. You know, and he had a pretty big online following. I think he had like three hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube and shadow band.
01:15:57
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And so I'm looking at this Washington Post article about him and it says,
01:16:06
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the head of a far-right website, Church Militant, Voris often claimed the Catholic Church was secretly run by an international gay crime syndicate. In a 2020 webcast, he referred to the Black Archbishop of Washington as a term many viewed as both a racial and gay slur, provoking an outraged backlash to Church scholars and officials.
01:16:32
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A single slur that's both gay and racist. He called him an African queen. Oh.
01:16:41
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I was thinking something so much worse. Yeah, I was thinking something much, much worse than that. That's actually okay. I'm not saying that's good. It could be a lot worse. Obviously, the Washington Post was not wanting to print that, but they did a link to whatever it was, like an article about that instance or whatever. Nobody read that and was like, I don't need to see that kind of filth.
01:17:06
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Like just say just say what he said because you can actually print what he said versus what we thought he might have said, which you cannot print. So basically he's just been this like fire brand fire and brimstone Catholic, you know, telling it like it is and preaching the word unapologetically and this and that and the other.
01:17:31
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It's nice that they got one, finally. It's been a while. I feel like it's been a while since one of them made waves. You know, we've had plenty of Southern Baptists make waves in that realm and just do typical evangelical conservative Christians to see Catholics. Yeah, when's the last time Catholics were involved in any scandals? Like, you know, they've just been clean for so long. I'd let them see them in this kind of a, you know, it's a refreshing form of scandal. Catholic nationalism.
01:18:01
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Hell yeah. I'm actually surprised it's not bigger, considering it is the one true faith.
01:18:07
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At one point, it says in 2016, okay, so I'll just read this paragraph here, but Voris' own personal history frequently complicated his stance on gay people. In 2016, he publicly acknowledged on his show that decades earlier, he had lived a quote, extremely sinful life of quote, live in relationships with homosexual men.
01:18:34
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They're the homosexuals. He's like, I was straight. I just accidentally sucked their dicks. Right. I did make out with a lot of gay dudes. I was a straight guy living with some homosexuals that I ended up having a lot of sex with those like straight. I had tons of sex with those gays. I was just with them for the bit. Like we just we we got like a nice apartment, like overlooking
01:19:01
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the sea just for the bit, like I was ministering to them, I was trying to reach them. And then, you know, we would throw these fabulous dinner parties and go for long walks on the beach, but I hate them and everything they stand for. And I want to be buried next to him, along with our scarf collection, but with the tombstone that says no homo, he's burning in hell, not me, I'm fine. If you want to be a conservative thought leader, like you got to have a good testimony, he was kind of building his resume.
01:19:31
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Yeah, he just I love the way he builds. It's like the building blocks are perfect. It's just like I accidentally engaged in some sinful sexual activity with men who happen to be gay. Well, I'm not. I mean, I'm not gay. It was just sinful sexual activity with gay men. Yeah. So he had that going on. And so he was like a a reformed gay man, I guess. Until.
01:20:01
Speaker
He was forced to resign in November. Okay. Resign from what? From his position as the head of Church Militant. I thought he was the only person working for Church Militant. Was there like a board of directors? Apparently, I mean, it said they had multiple buildings and dozens of employees. Oh, I thought this was like a blog. I don't know what they were doing, but they apparently had like a real organization behind it. Okay. All right. Okay.
01:20:31
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Yeah, they must have been doing more stuff than just like his dorky show. Just by monkey bars and shit out on children's playgrounds, getting ready for the upcoming war. And they were a nonprofit. So he was the head of this nonprofit organization and stuff. And he had to step down due to a breach of church militants morality class.
01:20:58
Speaker
So is there a website still up? Have you checked?
01:21:03
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I can't remember if I checked or not. Let me put myself on a watch list too real quick.
Internal Chaos at Church Militant
01:21:08
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This is Voris' trouble began in April when strange images appeared on Church Militant's cloud storage account according to several staff members. Shirtless selfies of Voris, some of them cut off just above his pelvis along with a screenshot of a text message exchange from someone expressing that they found the images sexually arousing.
01:21:33
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On a Dropbox account, typically reserved for matters such as the syllabus for an online class about the book of Ephesians, these new images stood out. Employees speculated that they had been uploaded unintentionally from Voris' phone, along with business documents meant for staff viewing.
01:21:50
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along. So it being paired with business documents leads you to believe that he can't play the same hacked card that our Hillsong friend did. It's gonna be tough.
01:22:04
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It's going to be a tough case to make. Dude, their website is chaos. It's chaos. Really? Oh, my God. It's like here we go. They have like their thing at the top where you can like cycle through the different things. It's like Queen of the Apostles and mother's the church. These are their headlines. Polls predict dogfight for Arizona State Senate. Germany penalizes
01:22:31
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convert cabbie for bible quote but then it's literally like it's just a bunch of shitty christian business ads um click here to join the fight get the truth spiritual bouquet which just looks like a christian like uh one eight hundred flowers uh and then you have like
01:22:52
Speaker
buying or selling a home, work with a pro-life agent. And it's just like a link to realestateforlife.org, which I guess you work with like people who will sell you a home that haven't murdered unborn babies. Kind of like putting the little Jesus fish on the sign for like your Jiffy Lube establishment. What are we doing here?
01:23:14
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Diversity, equity, inclusion, charity, backpedals, wokeness amid uproar. And it tells you how many comments are on this. And it's just like six comments, which is not a lot for a whole ass website pro-life a response to NAACP's abortion message. And then you have world news. Ecuador decriminalizes euthanasia amid debate.
01:23:35
Speaker
police arrest homosexual priests for peddling Viagra. I don't know where that's from. Um, it's got six comments though. So clearly there's a black market Viagra dealer, like I'm not saying like arrested under international Catholic law. I'm not sure how that would work. Um,
01:23:58
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But the website is real chaotic. I mean, the amount of thumbnails and pictures and oh my God, it looks like it. It looks like they just like you were in like 1998 and they just like decided to make a website for the first time. Well, it's not looking good for him. And I think it's only a matter of time before he gets outed completely for whatever they're holding on him. He's in the middle of some sort of a.
01:24:25
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There's like a law suit, a defamation suit against church militant for something that it posted. I didn't get the details of that.
01:24:36
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There is some aftermath for the organization, which is always sad, right? Sad to see a good organization taken down by one man's selfish act. But it says, after Voris resigned, a church militant sold off two of its office buildings in late December, according to court records.
01:24:55
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But the organization remains in financial jeopardy. A lawsuit from a priest suing church militant for defamation in New Hampshire is scheduled for trial in March. In its December fundraising email, the board said that, quote, the evil one had taken, quote, huge bite out of the company, suggesting the whole outlet could collapse without more donor support. Obviously. We would hate to lose this place to the devil, the fundraising email.
01:25:26
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Are we talking about Satan or are we talking about your old boss? So yeah, I can't believe I'd never heard of this guy, but I don't know. You know, I think there's so many of these types of dudes. Once in a while you stumble across like a new person on YouTube or something, do an interview with somebody and you realize like, Oh, there's like this guy with a whole following here that I didn't even know about. And then you look at their Twitter and you say, Oh,
01:25:55
Speaker
Dude, can't listen to that. I'm on their shopping page right now. I want to share this one with you. It's an acornistic shirt and going down. It says A R 15. All right. Oh boy. There's a rosary. There's a rosary on it.
01:26:17
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And I didn't get what it meant because the acronym is Av Regina 15 decades and none of that makes any sense to me, but I'm just a plebe. I'm not a Catholic. I don't know. And it says, um, it says as someone might have written a whole book about the Rosary as a spiritual weapon.
01:26:37
Speaker
Uh, but Marxist journalist, but I repeat myself, don't, he, it's not even written correctly. Marxist journalists don't understand that we fight against powers and principalities and not flesh and blood. They've said the rosary is an offensive symbol. I hate symbol, a symbol of extremism.
01:26:58
Speaker
How much are you fishing? No one's ever said that about the rosary. No one's ever said it's a symbol of hate or extremism. It's just never been considered that.
01:27:08
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Do you want a t-shirt allowing you to give praise to the Queen of Heaven and mock liberals and show a rosary and start conversations? You do? Let's be friends or just buy this t-shirt here. Available in men's and women's styles. The women's style is more fitted, tight enough to show you are a woman, loose enough to show you are a lady. Oh my gosh, that's the description on the website.
01:27:35
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Yeah. It's like, it's like the, it's like the Catholic version of ludicrous is a lady in the street, put a freak in the bed. You could just have like just a size chart. That's a normal thing to have. Like you don't need to explain.
01:27:50
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and printed with a quirky little Latin phrase these are ideal for a whole heap of purposes no we chose so the 15 decades so it's like Av Regina 15 decades I don't know what Av Regina is probably something Rosary related
01:28:07
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uh we can probably google that quickly if we want but it says no we chose quote 15 decades because well it's the ar-15 isn't it this is not intended to be a slight to be a slight luminous mysteries which of course we pray every week in our chapel live what is the 15 decades referred to and also discusses the aforementioned the weapon book
01:28:33
Speaker
You can't just say 15 decades referring to an AR-15. Then what does decades mean? It's unclear. It's unclear based on this description. Dude, nobody, even if there was meaning behind it, nobody wearing that shirt could explain it to whatever party they're ruining.
01:28:50
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Oh, 15 decades of the, I've typed in 15 decades and the first thing that came up was 15 decades of the rosary. Man, Sam is just fearless with those Google searches. Sam's like, something about, I need to Google the 14 words. I don't know if anyone knows what that means. I just think. The 15, how to pray the 15 decade rosary.
01:29:13
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One, the Annunciation Humility. Two, the Visitation Charity. Three, the Nativity of Christ. Four, the Presentation. Five, the Fighting... Whatever. We could go... I have no idea what saying those words has to do with praying the Rosary or 15 decades. I don't know either. I guess you just kind of... Is this a 12 Days of Christmas type thing?
01:29:34
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Well, it's because they are 15 though, you know, so I see there's one on here that says It's a t-shirt that says hashtag Catholic me too By a priest that's how you show They only come in extra small to medium. There's a video attached to it so traced medium only Instead of the like white collar. It's a rainbow
01:30:02
Speaker
So I'm sure it's something like that. It's blaming all the – like, I think that's part of his deal is he blames all those like molestation plague in the Catholic Church on like the affliction of homosexuality. I think he called it – Why does he think there's such an affliction of homosexuality amongst priests? Does he get into that?
01:30:21
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Bad Pope? I don't know. Yeah, it's all the Pope. The Pope made all these priests molesti. Those are all the priests that should have been dying in Crusades. I'm not sure if I have my Catholic history right. Dude, this sucks so bad. It says, show your support for the hashtag Catholic Me Too movement by wearing this t-shirt.
01:30:40
Speaker
Get questions asked. Start conversations. Upset your friends. Dump a load of angry hornets into an otherwise polite parish council meeting. Make a mess.
01:30:56
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Wait, is that serious? It would be cool. I'll take that leather crucifix brace, but it looks remarkably like a slap bracelet. This is a terrible website. Like they literally have like an add to cart button for every single color and every single size. There's like 30 add to cart buttons on here.
01:31:20
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Yeah, it's great. It's a lot. They have. I mean, you can buy a bowl of natural kings incense. I don't know. This one's like it looks like colorful couscous. You can't just fucking buy straight up charcoal. I mean, I don't even know what it's for. It's just labeled charcoal for four dollars. This is for the Catholic children's stockings.
01:31:47
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The Catholic deplorable t-shirt description says, Are you a terrible example of humanity who believes marriage is between one man and one woman? The Catholic Church is the one true faith. Jesus Christ is the only means of salvation and that abortion is murder. You do? Let's be friends. Also, while we are being friends, wear this fine t-shirt.
01:32:09
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We can pick each other out in a crowd. It's a white soft short sleeve t-shirt right now because that's classic, but we're going to get other options out there. Despite what Bernie Sanders says, consumer choices are good.
01:32:24
Speaker
They have a whole section that we probably shouldn't just like keep this going for much longer, but I can't stop. It's too good. They have a whole section for DVDs.
Criticism and Ideologies of Church Militant
01:32:35
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It's the FBI series, the faith-based investigation.
01:32:45
Speaker
I can't believe I never heard that acronym before. They have FBI, Canadian Collapse, FBI Contraception, FBI, the CCHD into Alinsky. That sounds the trick out of this. And then global warming unmasked, faith-based investigation.
01:33:03
Speaker
It's weird. This Catholic Church nonprofit seems to just be a far right propaganda mill with a Catholic bent. Why do they always sound exactly the same? Do they have one about vaccines? They didn't have one. Now they have the... Oh, wow.
01:33:21
Speaker
A few DVDs here. They're probably like not reprinting a lot of these though. Okay, so you think they've probably stopped putting out new material. This is something they printed all these DVDs 10 years ago and they just still have them in stock. There is a tab here on the options thing that says none soap. I see that too none soap. Texas monastery four pack. The man soap trio or the blood orange and Bergamot. Which one did you prefer?
01:33:51
Speaker
Well, how's it? No, you're gonna do it. What's this non soap? It says, uh, it doesn't really give a good description. Monastery garden with Rosemary time and other herbs, Lizzie's lemongrass, Texas Prairie and plain and simple. Hell yeah. A lot of soaps, a lot of soaps. That's some fight club shit right here. There. This is cool. I like this guy. I like him a lot. Well,
01:34:15
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See if you can get him on the show. It's just a shame to see that his uh, you know, his empire is falling apart What a bummer he tried he tried he distanced himself from the Catholics He built his own website rebranded tried to re-brain Catholicism with a whole Tried, you know Looked at the brain as fast as he could but the gay priest disease finally caught up got him
01:34:38
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Nick gets another. Got him good. He's like a right hook, you know, just knocked him down. He was running so hard he created a podcast and a merch empire. Hell yeah. All right, everybody. Well, if you like the show, leave us a review and send it to your buddy, somebody you think will enjoy it.
01:35:01
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If you're Catholic, look, we said some shit tonight. I don't, we talked to, well, I'll take responsibility for some of the shit saying I said some shit. A lot of people seem to quote unquote convert to Catholicism from ex evangelicalism, whatever they find meaning in it. Cool. But because of how not progressive some Catholic values are, if you are someone who has drifted towards Catholicism,
01:35:27
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But don't subscribe to their non progressive values. Shoot us a message on Instagram, too. I'd be super curious to hear some like your reasoning or how you kind of like work around some of those some of those things. Perhaps we might even would consider having that conversation on the podcast if you seem like you know your Catholic shit well enough. But don't be a don't be a poser. Know your shit. Know your shit. I want to talk to people who know what they're talking about.
01:35:54
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You gotta be able to explain Ave Regina. If you can't explain Ave Regina and the rosary, then we're not interested. And I said Ave, like it's an avenue. So I'm obviously a moron. I'm just guessing Ave. No, you were 100% right. Ave Regina. Well, maybe. Regina sounds like a thing that's familiar. Yeah, Regina, you got it.
01:36:14
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Uh, anyway, if you are, if you have converted to Catholicism and do find meaning in it and have a good understanding of it and work around some of the lack of progressive values, I would honestly love to hear from you for, for real. We do a lot of joking and shitting on things here, but I would like to have an honest conversation. Take what you need out of stuff. Okay. Don't worry about, Oh, well, you know, there's, you know, gross evangelicals that like this or like that. Take what you need out of it.
01:36:43
Speaker
And you don't have to, uh, you don't have to include that person in your, in your club. Okay. They don't represent you and you don't have to carry water for them. Take what you need, live your best life and, um, you know, just don't, uh, don't tell anybody about it.
01:36:59
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And if what you need is ladies and girls kissing, just double check where you're typing. Yeah, don't put that in the wrong, in the wrong text field. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. We will see you next time.