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Episode 7 - What’s The Deal With Impulsiveness And Risk-Taking?
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In this episode, Paul and Martin (co-Mayors of ADHDville) get stuck into the ups and downs of impulsivity and risk-taking. Martin struggles with trash and Paul springs a quiz on Martin.
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Theme music written by Freddie Philips and played by Martin West. All other music by Martin West.
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This is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals.
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Transcript
Introduction with Humor
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I'm just dancing strangers in the night. Strangers in thick tights. I used to sing like that. Strangers in thick tights. I don't know why. I was not thinking.
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Yes. I was thinking, I felt what I wasn't thinking. I found out yesterday, it was a day before, I don't know, that this bit between, that screws us up, I say, DHDs, before the frontal cortex, there's a thing called the thalamus gate. Okay, yes. Right, that's broken. Oh. It's broken.
00:00:46
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You know, it's broken or someone, someone like didn't make a copy of the key. You know, it's yeah, it's good. It's like thalamus gate. Okay. I bet my warranties run out on it as well.
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Right, Thalamus Gate. I'm going to... Another episode will be another episode. I was presuming there's like a George Thalamus that gave the name, like people give asteroids and stars names. All right. It's probably Greek. Georgios Thalamus.
Meet the Hosts: Paul & Brian
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I know that bombshell. Let me welcome you to Old Geezer's talk about ADHD.
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Oh, there we go. All right, there we go. So yeah, hi. Hello, everyone. I'm Paul Thompson. I was diagnosed with ADHD after 56 years of WTF and OMG. And I am Brian Cranston, actor, according to
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what you thought I should, if this podcast was a film, that's who you would get to play me. Right, the chemist from Breaking Bad is spot on. I'll take that. Take that and raise you.
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And I think I cast you as, um, Oh crap. Uh, David Jason, star of frost and, uh, only fools and horses. Yeah. Yeah. Not sure what to make of that, mate.
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Hey, I would take it. I would take it and okay. All right. Here's me running.
Friendship & ADHD Discovery
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Um, so hello everyone. So we're just two old geezers who by coincidence or not, after 35, 35, 39 years of friendship, discover ADHD is. Yeah, me too.
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Now it's really important to say at this point, this is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals. So don't take any of our advice. We're a kind of all-inclusive ADHD pizza with a loaded crust.
Exploring 'ADHDville'
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Wow, that was hard.
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It's supposed to get easier, it doesn't. Anyway, still here, then grab your tart decorated thermos flask and let's take you to ADHDville and imagine a town that we've created our minds where we like to explore everything to do with ADHD.
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And in ADHDville, we start off in the mayor's office. We are the joint mayors of ADHDville, and this is where we take care of business. Right, so our meeting today, usually right at the top is, how was your ADHD week?
Weekly Review & Challenges
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Was it good, bad, or ugly?
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yeah i i was mixed yeah go on mixed bag we're gonna say mixed bag mixed bag yeah pick a mixed mixed bag yeah i've actually been uh getting getting to bed at a decent time
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which is like really important for me. So that's good. On the bad side, we have a load of stuff from our basement and we have to kind of have scheduled trash pickup. So you basically go online and you say,
00:05:11
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Right, I've got a couple of chairs or whatever and the council come up and on a certain day, at a certain time, we'll come and pick it up from the front of your house and I keep forgetting that even though I've got it in my Google calendar and I put up alerts, I've managed to only hit one of those pickups and I've missed at least two
00:05:38
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Even even I've got alerts everywhere that go right the stuff out on the front yard Do you use I use the like Apple calendar and I give myself multiple alerts like one hour before no two days my my go-to is two days before one day before and then like one hour before So I get messages
00:06:04
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I have, um, so when I booked them, the first thing I did was to go into my, uh, onto my reminders on my iPhone. And I went right on this. Uh, so I have to put it out first thing in the morning. So the previous day I put in an alert saying, put that shit out on the front. And then in the morning, about an hour before pickup, put the shit out on the front. And then I managed to miss.
00:06:34
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I got the first one, but then I missed two other pickups. So that's annoying. Okay. Right. Yeah.
00:06:44
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On the trash theme, I used to, up until April, I was living, I lived in Palermo for three years. And, oh God, they just like, they just like sometimes didn't pick up the trash on those days that they were supposed to. And so when it would go out of kilter, and so when you thought they were supposed to pick up the plastic, they picked up the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
00:07:14
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the glass, you know, when they supposed to pick up the glass, they pick up the, um, in deferrated, they call it in, in Italian, in different, in different trash that's in different. Seriously. So then it would go all out of the, all out the window. And then I got had a neighbor who gave, was giving me trouble. She said, Oh, why are you putting out the trash on the wrong day? I'm like, well,
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I said, because they didn't pick it up when they're supposed to. And they said, yes, they don't. No, they don't. Anyway, yeah. So you've gone to a huge fight. Yeah, yeah. Well, we just exchanged, like, you know, glances. It's like, you're not getting it, are you? And I was giving the same look to her. She was like, you ain't from around these parts.
00:08:11
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Exactly. That happened a lot in Palermo, believe me. Yeah. Now then, I was going to set up something for us to try next week, because I know that you said that your girlfriend was giving you
00:08:35
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giving you a little chip for housework stuff. So I'm trying to find a ADHD housework hack that we could both try and then see if that works. So I'll get that sorted out for next week. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And we skipped the budget.
ADHDville's Economy & Humor
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Well, I mean, there's, there's Barbara from procurement, right?
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And then there's Steve from Counts, right? And the good news is they're both on vacation. So if you want to write any big checks, so if you have any big guests coming, then I would book them now. Because when they get back,
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I mean, they're going to probably take the mayor's checkbook away from me. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Okay. I find it funny you say that I have got some ideas on that. So yeah, which I won't tell you about. I'd be surprised, obviously.
Quiz: Famous People with ADHD
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All right. Well, I'll look forward to that next week then. But talking of surprises, I've got a quiz for you, Martin.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you did a quiz for me thought I'd favor, you know, sure. Okay. So we've got super for super format. It's nice. It's a, it's a, it's actually a, um, what'd you call them? Um, you have to pick out from ABC, multiple choice. Thank you, Martin. Thank you. So you didn't do exams at school as we learned. Yeah.
00:10:35
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Yeah, last week. Yeah, not even multiple choice. Okay, multiple choice. So I've got like a list of four categories. A list of four categories, got four categories. You have to choose which one of them in each of the categories is the famous person who has ADHD or had, because some of them are historical figures. Okay. All right. So I have to pick them out. Okay.
00:11:04
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Right. Okay. So you choose from one of these. Ingvar Cambrand, inventor of the IKEA Billy. Okay. A. Okay. B. Dominic Wilcox, inventor of the vibrating finger gun massager. These are all real, by the way. Finger gun massager. Yep. Okay. C. Augusta Aida Byron, daughter of Lord Byron, inventor of computer programming. I kid you not. It's true.
00:11:35
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All right. D. Alan Darm, inventor of the rotating spaghetti fork. I think I've seen that. All right. Or A. Malcolm Pickard, inventor of the Snogometer. Okay. All real things. The Snogometer. A, B, C, D, or E.
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Right. So one of these inventors we know has ADHD. Yeah. All right. Okay. I feel like I should go with the most nuts one. I mean, cause I'm going to go with the revolving spaghetti fork. That feels like a ridiculous ADHD thing to me.
00:12:28
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Uh, Alan Dom. No, it's not. It's ink for comp a camper and camper at a, uh, event of the, I keep, I keep Billy, but well, he didn't really invent it. I keep Billy is actually is I care him for the founder of it. I just said event of the, I keep Billy for comic effect. Right. Okay. Right. So the owner founder of, uh, um, ink bar founder of I care is ADHD.
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All right. Moving on. Moving on. A, B, C or D. Robin Williams, inventor of the morgue from the planet Ork. Oh, he was a great, loved him. Yeah. Yeah, loved him. Apparently he was given the part of morgue because the director said he was the only alien that arrived for auditioning.
00:13:23
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his words. Yes, because I think he's didn't he sit in the seat upside down. Yeah, right. Exactly. Is that right? Yes. Right. Love Robin Williams. Love that guy. Anyway. B, Roode Cahoy, inventor of the Nexus 6 replicant Roy Batty. Oh yeah, great film. B, Brian Cranston, inventor of Walter White, the chemist, blue and blue myth magician.
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or D Alan Clark inventor of Rita Sue and Bob too. Oh, that was a cracking film. Yeah. One for the seventies, one for the UK crowd. Well, uh, if there's an American, someone watching this podcast and there isn't American and they've seen Rita Sue and Bob too. We want to hear from you.
00:14:21
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Right, it's pretty out there. Yeah, get it out from blockbusters. A, B, C, or D? Martin. Okay, so Robin Williams obviously had a lot of mental health issues. Maybe ADHD was kind of part of those. Rudger Hauer, actor, Blade Runner. Bryan Cranston, again, actor. And then Alan Clark, screen writer.
00:14:49
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I'm going to go with like Alan Clark, me and you and Bob too or whatever. Yeah. No, it's Robin Williams. Oh, bless him. Bless him. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. That makes sense. Oh my God. And planet, our planet is poor for not having him.
00:15:13
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Absolutely. Okay, let's go to the next one. A, B, C, D, or E. Well, you've got the idea by now, I'm sure. Okay. Lewis. Oh, these are all writers, by the way. Here's the thing. Okay. Lewis Burke. These are all real books, by the way. Lewis Burke Frunks, writer of How to Raise Your IQ by Eating Gifted Children. Eating Gifted Children? Yeah.
00:15:42
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Yeah, it's a real book. Okay. Oh. B, Jules Verne, writer of the Thompson Travel Agency. Hang on, didn't he write 20,000 Leads Under the Sea? Under the Sea and... Yeah, stuff like that. Donny Smith, writer of We Got Zombies on the Lawn Again, Ma.
00:16:11
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Man, I wanna read all of these. These are amazing titles. Let's see, ABCD, Kathleen Mayer, writer of How to Shit in the Woods, an environmentally sound approach to a lost art. Wow. Wow. All of those should be on your on your reading list.
00:16:37
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bucket list. How's the shit in the woods? An environmentally sound approach to a lost art? Boy, that doesn't sound very hygienic, Jesus Christ. You know what? I am more familiar with Jules Verne. I've read a few of his books. He was an interesting character. I'm going with him.
00:17:07
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yes well done well done yeah he wrote the book the Thompson travel agency i'm like one for three
00:17:16
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Yeah. Last one. All right. From the last one. All right. Okay. Oh, here we go. These are all, uh, um, actor artists slash artists, musicians, right? Wow. Okay. Just famous people. What the fuck? Michael Phelps. Michael Phelps. Inviter of the wide shoulder. Oh yeah. Okay. Olympic gold medalist. Or be Liliana, inventor of the ironic father hating lyrical style.
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C. Johnny Depp, inventor of the pseudo Keith Richards pirate D. Dustin Hoffman, inventor of the Mrs Robinson kissing machine O. Ozzy Osbourne, inventor of ant sniffing and bat eating
00:18:11
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Well, yeah, because I know that after Phelps won all his medals in his last Olympics, he did say that
00:18:25
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you know, he went into a depression, I think he was talking about his mental, and I think ADHD was one of those things. Interesting enough. He apparently woke up in his hotel room thinking, damn, now what do I do?
00:18:42
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Right. Lily Allen, comedian, right? I can remember him in the 80s. No, she, she, singer, singer, singer, singer. I'm thinking of someone else then. All right. Don't know about that. Johnny, Johnny Depp.
00:18:59
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obviously Pirates of the Caribbean, lovely. You know what, interestingly, Dustin Hoffman, we were talking about Rook Gahaar earlier, with Blade Runner starring Harrison Ford. Now, Dustin Hoffman was the actor that they wanted to play Harrison Ford's
00:19:23
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No way. And he turned it down. Right. Oh my God. He may have had Dustin Hoffman as Blade Runner. It's hard to think of that, isn't it? Hard to think of Dustin Hoffman. That is bizarre. Talking of Blade Runner, during the extensive research I did for this questionnaire,
00:19:46
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Read it up about Ruka Hoya. You know he wrote that monogram about the really famous old, he wrote it the night before. It's the Wikipedia thing about that. They've actually got the original monologue that he was supposed to use that he thought was crap and he rewrote it. He used to see how bad the original monologue was.
00:20:10
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Oh really? I've never seen that. Yeah, it's really bad. Yeah. We put that in the links. That little passage at the end is a classic. So Michael Phelps, Lily Allen, Johnny Depp, Dustin Hoffman or Ozzy Osbourne? Ozzy Osbourne, crazy, crazy guy. But I'm going with Phelps because I'm pretty sure he has ADHD.
00:20:35
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Okay. It's all five. Oh, so I do win. I get 50% marks. That's a C student right there for you. I said I was a C student last week and there's my C result. Exactly. There you go. That was fun.
00:20:59
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All right. Well, I feel good about that. I feel good about that. Do you feel like you've kind of like limbered up for the next part? Yeah. So where are we going today?
Impulsivity in ADHD: Pros & Cons
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We are taking a cab downtown to talk about what's the deal with impulsiveness and risk taking.
00:21:25
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all right well let's uh let's uh save a few bucks and we'll just take the mayor's car instead if that's okay with you all right then yeah yeah all right then we'll just save that money for our next surprise guest well yeah i mean we have to find that that be somewhere all right let's let's let's go
00:21:57
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New stuff, new sounds. Yeah, because each place we go has its own little signature tune. And that's the downtown signature tune. Sounds like Isaac Hayes should like come in with his like cool, you know, singing tone. I do think downtown is kind of
00:22:22
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You know, is the, the coolest of the towns of the, uh, yeah, the up and down. Yeah. Well, Isaac is one of the coolest dudes out there. It was. Yeah.
00:22:37
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Absolutely. Oh, right. So here we are. Pulsivity and risk-taking. What have you got for us on that, Martin? What have I got? Well, you know, the interesting thing about this is it kind of comes in two halves. There's the kind of good and the positive side, and then there's the kind of negative side.
00:23:01
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So on the positive side, impulsive is part of ADHD. Certainly if you're in the impulsive type of ADHD, and that kind of generally means that you'll be like an adventurous person, a fan person,
00:23:24
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They're very adaptable. We are very adaptable to stressful jobs. It makes us passionate people. We can make decisions quickly. I think also we can be interesting people to work with from other people's point of view.
00:23:48
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Uh, you know, yeah, ideas we think out of the box. Yeah. It's like, we like people to go to for like, if you want like stuff out of the box kind of thinking, yeah, we kind of go to like, Oh, let's go talk to Martin about that.
00:24:06
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Right, you know, it makes us interesting partners, right? Because, you know, like, they, you know, like, so, so my wife, you know, I, I never know what's gonna happen from one day till the next. She's constantly surprising.
00:24:28
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me with a new different thing that is happening. And I think, you know, because ADHD people need novelty to kind of keep us interested. If your partner does also have ADHD and is impulsive, then that kind of... No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Trisha's ADHD too. Yeah.
00:24:54
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did not know that. Oh, well, you see, you see. She's a, she's a different flavor of ADHD ice cream to flavor flavor. And we kind of compliment each other. Wow. Well, that's, that's interesting. Okay. Okay. Sorry to interrupt you. I think we end up finding each other interesting. So that's why we stick around.
00:25:25
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Yeah. On the bad side, impulsivity, you can also obviously lead to acting without thinking. It's also blurting stuff out
00:25:46
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talking without thinking. It's also linked to heavy alcohol and substance abuse. Also like having affairs and other risky sexual behaviours, aggressive driving, having accidents. Right.
00:26:12
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So there's that kind of... It's in our, if not always, it's almost always in our notes with reference to, there's a guy who's like studied ADHD for like 20 odd years or something. We put the link in the notes, but he's really interesting because he really puts, they kind of put it out there without sugarcoating it. But what actually the,
00:26:41
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the downside of uh ADHD can be including car driving cars, you know, and It was quite shocking but Refreshingly shocking, you know and and like really honest Which I really appreciated. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean like out of all of that. I know that my I don't tend to do the substance or the alcohol abuse part of it the the affairs and and stuff has
00:27:10
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featured in my past I mean quite a while ago now but but but you know it was it was there I do drive too fast even now do you haven't had haven't had much in the way of accidents I mean very very I think I've
00:27:33
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I've right two cars. Yeah, one wasn't my fault. So actually, let's just strike that down to one. Okay, it was just a bump. It was just like, it wasn't it wasn't even a thing really, but
00:27:49
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Well, that professor, an expert of ADHD is called Dr. Russell Barkley, PhD. Just do a search on him. You can find some interesting stuff from him on this subject. He's saying specifically to driving, he said, you know, suggesting potentially that we should be tested for it before giving a driving license. And a major percentage of car accidents are caused by potentially ADHD as
00:28:19
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I remember him saying that. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. So I think one thing is to just define impulsivity a little bit more, you know, so we know what we're talking about. It is that, you know, acting in the moment without planning or consideration for the consequences. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:43
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And I think for me that kind of there's a planning part, there's the forward thinking part, all of which is like, I can see because, you know, people don't tend to like to think about
00:29:00
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tomorrow, these, you know, we're a little bit time blind, right? You know, that the future doesn't exist. Well, I heard expressed the other day in a really interesting way, because like ADHD, we're supposed to go ready, aim, fire, but ADHD go, oh no.
00:29:24
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Here we go. Back in the room. Hello. Back in the room. Hello. So yeah, I was just saying, um, I thought there was a really nice expression of this thing that you're talking about the ADHD people rather than saying, uh, ready, aim, fire, ADHD is go fire, aim, ready. Yeah, that, that makes sense. Yeah. And also if we're, if we're dopamine deprived,
00:29:49
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you know, doing impulsive things kind of gives us that, that injection of that sweet, sweet. You know, and all of these things, you know, has their plus sides and the monocytes, and we talked about the plus sides, you know, but it only really becomes a problem, you know, if
00:30:13
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your impulsiveness affects your your relationships or interferes with work or you know consequences get out of hand get out of control yeah right yeah yeah and it's kind of funny when i kind of think about
00:30:34
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impulsive you know so one thing is you know is uh impulsive buying purchasing tick um and i know yeah and i know i'm very much in that box and you'll
00:30:49
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If anyone's on the YouTube video, you'll see that we both have the same microphone. Yes. Um, yeah. And that, and that's like a, let's do a podcast. Let's go buy a microphone. Totally. And feel awesome about it. We also have, we have, we have something else. Uh, we have, do you remember, I compulsively bought a Land Rover Defender, Martin.
00:31:15
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And we went together and collected it. Oh, this old beaten up old, uh, Land Rover. God, I love that car. Totally impractical. I was living in London at the time. Just to park that thing. Cause he had no power assisted steer just to park it. It was like going to the gym to go like, like lifting weights, you know, for half an hour, just to park it.
00:31:41
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But I love that car. It was such a dumb buy. It was insane. But an example of, you know, it didn't have crazy consequences. Luckily, you know, but that was, that was madness.
00:31:59
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Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I mean, you know, there is definite joy and dopamine hitting compulsively buying things that you later kind of gave. Why the hell did I buy that? Well, getting right into that moment, I'm not sure how it works for you, but I could find myself like a silly example. I could find myself like coming out of a shop with a pair of socks that I spent 200
00:32:26
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euros on. Okay. It's not a real story, but it's, and then like thinking back of the last 10 minutes, how did I get to this point? And as if I was in like a trans state, you know, like I didn't have 10, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, but spent 200 euros on a pair of socks came out like, Oh, how did I get here?
00:32:55
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And then shame, like, what the fuck, Paul? What the hell? Yeah, yeah, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm certainly guilty of doing all of those things.
00:33:16
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And yeah, I mean, what can you do? Apart from like, just kind of know that that's what you're like. This has come to mind, Marty. This is one of the
00:33:33
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joys and actually was one of the, uh, um, motives for doing this podcast is like just finding out this stuff about each other. And for God, how your, your stuff on my stuff, like overlaps, it's, I really loving it. I love it. Really just find it really fascinating.
00:33:53
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Right. I think that's like, you know, if, if you're ADHD, if you're an ADHD, chances are a bunch of your friends are as well, because you just seem to get along. Get along just fine. Another one is just fine. Impulsive talking.
00:34:16
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Right. Mm hmm. Here's another one. That's like, where, you know, the ADHD brain works really kind of quickly. And it's kind of, and it's, it's impatient to get stuff out there. And say something because one, it kind of gets
00:34:46
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a little bit bored and just kind of wants to say stuff. Also, there's this thing of like, well, I'm going to forget what I wanted to say unless I say it now.
00:35:00
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you know, other things that characterise this is like if you find yourself you button or talk in the middle of other people's sentences or you have trouble filtering out what you're going to say, you know, like where your mouth goes before your brain even starts to think about what you're going to say.
00:35:28
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Yeah, some things could just come to mind on that, Martin. I think it's related. I think I'd get frustrated if I'm not in a conversation with someone who's stimulating.
00:35:44
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Um, with the opposite of that being when I am opposite someone, we're in a conversation, more likely a fellow ADHD without realizing it. I've just been super, super stimulating, but it's what I think conversation, stimulating conversation is one of my favorite, um, dopamine, uh, things.
00:36:08
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You know, when there's that like connection, the conversation is just going left and right and you know, all over the place. Yeah. And when you're not, when I don't have that person in front of me, I just go and switch off. Right. Boring, boring people have become very boring. Yeah.
00:36:32
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Another thing I thought about is because this is a podcast, you know, we are old geezers. Hello. Hi. There's a thing of, I think, you know, when you get to this point in your life and say you've never thought of yourself as having ADHD,
00:36:56
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And you just kind of go, yeah, well, I just say what's on my mind. And I just talk. And because I've reached this age, it almost becomes you must think, well, that's who I am. Take me or leave me. You know, I call a spade a spade, blah, blah, blah. And you can almost think, well, it's it's nothing that I should work on. Right. It's not a, you know, if you don't like me, you don't
00:37:26
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like me and I kind of feel like actually yeah it is something that you should you should think about yeah you know because it can just people lived with it yeah 50 yeah yeah doesn't mean that it should you know that should have
00:37:44
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We come back to consequences again, aren't we? I've been in a situation where I was, I think, quite rude to a group of friends. I pretended I had a really bad headache and needed to go home and sit in a dark room.
00:38:00
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And I think like, you know, I was just, I think I was just basically really fucking rude. So yeah, I think I just, I'm really careful not to be arrogant about it. So when I say, you know, say, you know, boring, boring people, just to me, you know, ADHD, it's people that don't, aren't stimulating and it's different, you know,
00:38:26
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I hope that doesn't sound really fucking judgmental and arrogant and just, you know, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I think, you know, if you think about it and say, right, well, this is who I am, you know, that I do just, I just talk.
00:38:46
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And if you look back and you can go, well, it does affect relationships or I am out of line at work and I have suffered because of it, then it should be something that you should take a closer look at, right?
00:39:06
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Yeah, exactly, exactly. I mean, empathy, you know, as well, you know, they might seem at that precise moment, you know, not very stimulating, but it's just because they could be tired, you know, what the fuck, you know, you know? Yeah, right. Okay, and then there's another thing, which is impulsive decisions.
Impulsivity's Impact on Leadership
00:39:32
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Um, right. And this isn't, this is an interesting run, you know, uh, so for example, it could be saying yes to something and then regretting it later. Right. So, oh, you know, Paul, you know, I've got this thing, uh, you know, can you do it for me? And you just kind of go, yes. And then there's.
00:39:54
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there's not been the thought of like, oh, hang on a second. I've got all this other stuff to do. And now I've taken on something that I actually don't have time for. Well, my thing is I'm just too much of a yes person anyway. But it's slightly linked to something else. But yeah, my default is saying yes anyway, when I really, really don't want to say yes. And then immediately you say,
00:40:23
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Damn it, what did I say? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's also a part of it which is like, you know, that kind of the the opposite of it, which is overthinking, right? You know, when you overthink something and you get this kind of this this what's it called analysis paralysis?
00:40:51
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where you end up not making any decisions whatsoever, because you're kind of just brain-wearing on it. And in order to avoid that, you just kind of make a decision so you don't fall into that analysis problem.
00:41:15
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Yeah, it reminds me of, was it the first or the second podcast I revealed to the world that I was indecisive about indecisiveness? So yeah, probably the last person to give you a reaction. Actually, I mean, but there is a positive spin on it. And certainly, you know, as we're older, more mature,
00:41:52
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There's one reason why I like working in the retail space. So I'm a creative director and I spent a lot of time working for brands in the retail.
00:42:07
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spaces. It's very quick. You have to make decisions quickly. There isn't much umming and ahring. It is almost like boom, boom, boom, boom. And as you get older and more experienced, your decisions or your answers to problems just become better and better and better as you have more experience. I'm really decisive.
00:42:37
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to the point where I'm quite philosophical about, I'd rather be decisive and make a choice rather than waste half an hour debating. And generally I find that it's quite rare. If I trust my instinct and I decide a certain thing, direction to go, whatever, I'm not that often wrong. But yeah,
00:43:06
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Yeah, no, and it does make for good leaders, because by the point where you get to be a leader, you're a little bit older, and your decisions are a lot smarter, and you're not scared to make a decision, right? You just kind of go, right, Paul, is it A or B? And just go, look at it, analyze it. Oh, and you just run with a decision. I think because you get older, you realize, you know, what's the
00:43:31
Speaker
what's the worst that could happen you know take the left road to the right that what's the worst could happen it's very rarely there's anything you know um you know drastic you know uh usually in my line it it can be right and the consequences can be can be quite uh immediate but the um
00:43:58
Speaker
I think if I was going to wrap this up, it feels like I would say embracing your impulsivity is a good thing. You just have to kind of be aware of where it's
00:44:22
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going to hold you back will be detrimental to you, right? I like to think sometimes I like to think of things as a as an object. So I like I think of my positivity as like a ball, like a physical thing. It's like you decide what to do. It just pulls, pulls ball of impulsivity. And there are other aspects of other aspects that I like to give a shape to. It's like, like,
00:44:49
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I don't know, it just helps me to visualize it, give it like a... It's about Tom Hanks and his basketball, what was it called?
00:45:01
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Wilson. On the subject of impulsivity, but I think it's quite likely that we're going to dedicate an episode to it and what happened to
00:45:20
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to me, you, what our experience was of ADHD during the lockdown, because their impulsivity is like a biggie on that one. And yeah, yeah. Because my positivity just was off the charts during the lockdown. And I didn't realize it until three years later.
00:45:43
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when I came out the other end. So yeah. All right. Well, that'll be an interesting subject. All right. Okay. Well, obviously we could chat a lot more about this and we probably will at some other point. Yeah. So let's jump back into a mayor's car and let's go over to the post office. Yeah.
Listener Engagement & Feedback
00:46:14
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00:46:38
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00:47:09
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Oh, right. I forgot to hit the outro button. Outro. So there we go.
Conclusion & Sign-Off
00:47:14
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Oh, there we go. Comes in. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for being here. Check out our show notes and links. Look out for new episodes that drop every Tuesday. But in the meantime, be fucking kind to yourself. Avoid it. Avoid, if you're like me, avoid eating Haribo. Ciao for now.
00:47:39
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There, says the Mayor. That's that.