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As we head into the Olympic break, we discuss what needs to happen for the Sens to make the playoffs, and which players we will be rooting for in Italy. But first, we present our pitch for a cameo in Heated Rivalry season 2.
Timestamps:
6:45 More hockey romance discussion
(WARNING: SPOILERS FOR IT'S A SETUP BY TAYLOR FITZPATRICK FROM 28:15 TO 28:57)
29:30 Are the Sens good?
49:00 Previewing the Olympics from an Ottawa-pilled perspective
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Transcript
00:00:06
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don't even know what he's thinking. He's just a complete brickhead. Brady Kachunk. Thomas is my best friend. I got a lot of good-looking dudes on my team. You just got new.
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I just have. Just have a seat.
Introduction to 'JBD' and Hosts
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Hi everyone and welcome to episode JBD of Elite Sense Brain. Guys, I looked up who has worn 48 over the years. There aren't a lot of good options. I'm so sorry. So episode JBD specifically in 2021, apparently.
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um Anyways, I'm Beata. I'm joined as always by the artist formerly known as Twitter user at Ericsson's Burner. How's it going? <unk> doing okay. How are you?
00:00:47
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I'm surviving, you
Challenges of the Quebec Bar Exam
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know? um i've alluded in the last few episodes to ah me being really busy in a new year, and since I tweeted this out, I'm finally gonna announce it. um For those who weren't already aware, I'm currently in the process of studying for the Quebec Bar.
00:01:07
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which is absolute hell. So it's possible I might like disappear off the face of the earth in March and April or something. Please do not make fun of me if I fail the bar. I'm trusting you all with this information, but that's how I'm doing. Not great.
00:01:23
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Oh my gosh. I feel like, okay, you know, recently, you know Kim Kardashian keeps taking the bar like over and over again? Okay. No comment. I don't know where, like, what, I don't know. But anyway, the thing is that, like, I feel like there was a time when, like, she, like, talked about how, like, she threw her back out studying. And people were like, oh, my gosh, like, she's so bad at studying. She even threw her back out. I feel like that's real. I feel like that's the one part where I'm like, I feel like you can throw your back out studying. And Kim Kardashian is valid for that one.
00:01:52
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Oh, 100%. I'm halfway there, you know? so Kim Kardashian apparently keeps trying to write the bar without getting a law degree. And for the record, i have two law degrees because I went to McGill and they give you two degrees with your program. so i'm i amm ahead of
Bar Exam Worth and Self-Value
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Kim Kardashian in that way.
00:02:11
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Also, the Quebec bar is really hard and a lot of people fail it. And my boss said that every smart person she knows failed it at least once. So everyone... Keep in mind, if I fail it on the first try, it's because my brain is too big. I'm too smart. They couldn't handle it Please remember that.
00:02:28
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It's literally true. Also, like, if you pass on the first try, that's like loser behavior. I'm sorry. i'm sorry to future you. I don't know. if I pass on the first try, i will gladly accept the title of stupid person who passed the bar.
00:02:47
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Happy to do that, guys. That's so funny. Also, was Kim Kardashian riding the bar in her second language? I don't think so No, exactly. Also, um this is so unrelated to anything. i watched that show where she's like a fancy lawyer who's like a fancy divorce lawyer or something.
00:03:08
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really bad because that's like my official review on it it was crazy i don't I just thought of that because she was like I'm not a lawyer but I play one on tv I was like do you even like is this is this a lawyer rule I can't tell she like i don't know if that's what being a lawyer is like I don't know please advise Ask me in a year. Yeah, a little more than a year, probably. Well, definitely at least that. But anyways, also my plea to any listeners who might feel the need to like post an encouraging comment. um I've been saying this to everybody in my life.
00:03:42
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Yes, I do appreciate everybody going, oh my god, you're totally gonna pass on the first try. Stop doubting yourself. You're so smart. I love hearing that. However, what I need to hear the most from everyone is your worth as a person does not depend on whether or not you pass the bar and I will think you are smart even if you fail it three times and have to do the whole process over again.
00:04:07
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So can I hear a little bit of that, please? Well, i I firmly believe that's true. Also, because, like, it seems like a dumb test. It's like, it's crazy. Like, no one should base anything on it.
00:04:19
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I guess technically, law societies have to base one thing on it, which is, like, can you technically, like, practice or whatever the hell. But... Other than that, it's nothing, in my opinion. Both my current boss and my boss at
Resilience in Studying and Kim Kardashian
00:04:35
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the legal clinic that I'm going to be articling for think it's bullshit and are mad that I have to go through this whole process before I can work for them. So I'm going to take their word for it.
00:04:44
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Yeah, there you go. Anyway, I guess. So anyways, that's how I'm doing. Yeah, that's so rough. Although, okay, going back to this being episode JBD, I thought this like a minute ago and I was like, I'll stay with this.
00:04:58
Speaker
I feel like like cool that we're officially in like this is a terrible number who only one player we kind of like had for one season you know if you mean it's like when you're in like ah episode four or whatever it's like obviously you have the beloved ones I feel like it's a sign of like wow yeah made it like where We're getting into the training camp numbers, the like rookie numbers where you get called up for two games and you're like wearing some random number. i The other option that we had was Jared Cowan. And i know it's been a while, but people who have known me for a long time know I was never going to call a podcast episode, episode Jared Cowan. Absolutely no way.
00:05:42
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Yeah. I don't know. When we get to like 100 though, we're just going to have to start doing math. We're going to have to be like, welcome episode whatever times whatever. couldn't even think of an example. but yeah.
00:05:55
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Fucked up. we're We're almost halfway to that. Yeah. Get ready. Give us another how many years?
00:06:05
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A while. Yeah, good but once you're done like heading for the bar because that's the thing is like then we'll be able to report like all the time oh yeah 100% we'll do twice week famously you have a lot of free time when you're articling yeah exactly that's what I've always that's yeah I famously always said that so then there you go we'll do daily episodes at that time oh yeah get ready literally nothing else going on Sitting down every single day on that grind.
00:06:39
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Yeah, anyway.
Exploring 'Heated Rivalry': Books vs. Show
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Anyways, okay, small tangents aside, the first thing we have to discuss today... Once again, for the third episode in a row, we need to have a discussion about hockey romance. I'm so sorry. It's just, it's such a big thing right now. And listen, i can finally participate in the discussion because I watched all of Heated Rivalry and I read the first, I don't know if it's the first book because it's like game changers, right? So I guess technically- The second book in the series. yes Yeah. So I read Heated Rivalry, the book, and I watched Heated Rivalry, the show.
00:07:12
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And like the show is actually amazing. Like it's an incredible show. i loved it. Here's the thing, though. When I started reading the book, it was before I watched more than 10 minutes of the show, right?
00:07:28
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i was like, and I was primed a little to not like it because I trust your opinion so much. And you did not you were not a fan. But like I stopped reading it. Then I started watching the show. Then I was like, I should finish this book.
00:07:42
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And I think we agree on this. If you just like project the show onto the book, the book is so much better. This is the take I've landed on that I think if I had watched Heated Rivalry, the show, without having read the books and without any knowledge of like the fan base and the way the media is talking about it, I would have been like, yeah, this is a decent show. Like, small gripes, but I would have enjoyed the show. And honestly, by the end, i was enjoying the show.
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I do think that this is a case of reading the books before watching the show truly ruins the show for you. yeah like, i think... ah Because I, like, again, I, like, finished the show before I finished reading book, and I think this is, like, proof of it. Every...
00:08:34
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like seen in the show that was like taken from the book where I had already read the book I just like thought about the book and I was like I don't like the book and now I'm just like seeing the book kind of play out and I was like I don't know i just like the the book was just like as you said right it's like not really any like about hockey but the thing about the show is that like That's how shows work, is that you assume plot development is happening off screen. So you watch the show and you're like, I'm assuming all this plot development happened, all this like character development happened, and that's fine. I'm just like seeing snapshots. But then you go back to the book and you're like, oh no, there was nothing happening off
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screen. Like, this this is just it. They kind of just, like, took scene. It's almost like the book is written specifically for the show, which is not the case because the book came out so many years ago.
00:09:22
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yeah and it's also like you assume certain things about the character's motivations and what their thoughts are during certain scenes, and then you read the book and you realize that they were that you were wrong about it. Or like, one thing that jumped out to me is, remember one of my criticisms of the book was that I don't think it needed to be in dual point of view. I think that really ruined a lot of like, the relationship between the characters and like the the pace of the story. Not that I disliked either character. But um one thing that I remember
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from reading the book, and I can say this now because people presumably have watched the show, is like, Ilya's whole backstory with his mom is something that we get in his point of view before he talks about it with Shane. And then I was watching episode six, and you get that scene where he tells Shane about this backstory with his mom, and it's this huge emotional moment, and you can really feel like the connection between the characters, you can tell that they're like, growing close to each other, it's, you know, you as the audience are learning something about Ilya,
00:10:25
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And like it just works so much better in that format than when you already know it because Ilya told you that in his head, Yeah. yeah Yeah, I like that's the thing. Like, I think you mentioned like when you first talked about it, like I think the show works better and like it works like infinitely better. Like it's actually like and it's crazy because like plot like plot point for plot point. It's like the exact same. But it's just like that's such it. Like I think it's such an example like the format just working so much better when you're like actually watching it unfold, which like is so rare. I feel like I feel like most of the time people are like, no, the book is so much better. Like the show isn't as good.
00:11:02
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This is like the first time where I've been like the show is objectively like a million times better than the book. I'm sorry to
Cultural Issues in Hockey Depicted in Media
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like Rachel Reed like you are like a visionary for like you like create like obviously like the show wouldn't like exist without the book like give her her flowers and everything but like I just personally really prefer the show.
00:11:22
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Yeah, and it's weird because, yeah, they are really, the show is really accurate to the books. It's just, I just think the books are really poorly written. And I think that it, the story works so much better in a TV show format.
00:11:35
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And especially because, like, I don't know, the book doesn't really give you a lot of extra substance, right? That you would, like, miss out on in a TV show, right? Yeah.
00:11:47
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Yeah. And also, like, oh my gosh. Shout out to all the actors on the show. Like everyone was like amazing. I feel like Canadian talent like comes through Except I guess like Connor's story is not Canadian, but everyone else I'm pretty sure is maybe, i don't know. All the other main characters I'm going assume are Canadian.
00:12:06
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so yeah i forgot to mention this in the other episodes, I was so excited about Safine Lys and now I'm mad that people know her as Rose Landry but she will always be Shauna Shipman to me! I love, well okay, Yellow Jackets is like objectively not the best show ever but Shauna is my favorite character in Yellow Jackets, Safine Lys is so good in it and I am so sad that people now know her as Rose from Heated Rivalry instead.
00:12:35
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I fear that I only know her as from Heated Rivalry. But like. likes not She's insane in Yellow Jackets. Okay, I'll watch Yellow Jackets. But like she was so good in Heated Rivalry. Like, oh my gosh, it was all so good. And like, i don't know. It's like, I feel like I felt bad because I was like, oh my gosh, like I jumped on the train so late. i feel like it's kind of like not really ramping up as much as it was. And then like.
00:12:58
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Like, Mark Carney has, like, a Shane Hollander fleece. Like, it it we're back up. but Like, it's all coming in again. so yeah. Well, and we're also talking a little bit before about how a lot of the, like, the way some of the media is talking about the show and, like, the fan base as, like, this huge commentary on homophobia in hockey is, like, not entirely accurate. But even then, I think, like...
00:13:23
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It does also tie into the show almost doing a better job of conveying those themes just because you watch the show and you assume that Shane is struggling with his sexuality when you watch the show and then you read the books and it's like, no, he's not really struggling with this.
00:13:41
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yeah like that I also think that like I don't know like because the show is so much like you kind of like just get out whatever like like it's such a great show for like projecting your own kind of like understanding right because it's like if you come if you like have like if you've like watched a lot of hockey in the past or whatever like you come at it with that understanding and you're projecting a lot of that but even if you haven't it's like it's kind of more of a blank slate but you're projecting like other feelings onto it that you might have I just feel like the show is just like an immaculate like it's just like peak of the form like I feel like just a perfect form of immaculate I that's okay i might be overstating a little I'm like in my like I'm like in my heated rivalry show but like I know I don't think it's like immaculate but it's like that's the thing it's like I feel like you kind of and to a certain extent like get a lot out of it like whatever you are projecting onto it but I also will say
00:14:33
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A lot of people, not a lot, but like some people who like are actual like gay hockey players and stuff have like expressed that it's not accurate and heated rivalry fans are like, um, actually no. And it's like, okay guys, like I think that someone who is actually like gay in hockey would know better, but Yeah, that's the thing. And there was an article about an openly bisexual player who was criticizing the show and had like very similar criticisms to what I had, which is like, it doesn't really depict homophobia that much. And it also doesn't really put in the effort of showing how homophobia works specifically in hockey and sports. You know, the guy mentioned, like, the, like, culture of conformity within hockey culture plays into a lot of this, right? This fear that, like, you can't be different from your teammates at all. um
00:15:20
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This fear of standing out. Like, that's something that you see in hockey that you don't necessarily see in all these other sports. And that's, like, a huge part of why hockey is like that. Or just, like, I don't know, the homophobic language that is everywhere in the sport. Like, you know, he was talking about all of these specific challenges. And it's like, yeah, it is a little bit sad that the show...
00:15:38
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Didn't even try to look to convey what this actually looks like in hockey, you know, and and just sort of did the generic. Oh, yeah, they're in a really homophobic environment. And like you understand that because you know, the sports are homophobic anyways. Right.
00:15:53
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Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. where Yeah, I totally agree with that. oh anyway, I think the show like is objectively like, so i like I said, so much better than the book. And I like enjoyed the show. I think it was like a good show. um But yeah, I think there's like definitely problems. So that's why i know that there's controversy of people who are like, we love heated rivalry, then it comes up that they actually hated it in the background.
00:16:19
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Our whole All of our thoughts were true and on this podcast, and I'm pretty sure none of them changed. It's just I hadn't watched it before, and now we're giving more context to my opinion on it.
00:16:31
Speaker
Exactly. We were haters from day one. We never tried to get your attention. Because as as you all know, guys, we would it would be really hard for us to get the attention of gay hockey Twitter. like you know we're we're just We're desperate for those views, but it's okay. We'll go without.
00:16:50
Speaker
We need to stop getting like 50 year old men who just love the Edmonton Oilers. That's our main like listenership. It's like we need to branch out. God, well we will never pander to the gays.
Anticipating 'Heated Rivalry' Season 2
00:17:05
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Yeah. So, yeah, I think I'm excited to see like season two because I like I haven't read the second book because I'm like,
00:17:16
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I think that the show will just do the book better. so I'm just going to wait to watch the show to see what happens. um But yeah, again, I know that there's like you like mentioned like the criticism you had. so I'm like tentatively, hope they handle it better in the show.
00:17:32
Speaker
well Yeah, it's tricky because like, I think it would be hard for them to handle the story, those storylines well, at least without changing things pretty dramatically. because yeah as I said in the last episode, like I thought there were some pretty serious problems with how that was handled. But then the thing is, it's almost win-win for me because like either the show is good and they have actual good commentary on hockey culture, Or I get to be vindicated because everyone is going to turn on the show for how horribly they handle the topic of sexual assault in hockey. And then everybody will be on my side and be a hater.
00:18:08
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and obviously I'm hoping it's the first one. the The third option is actually the worst one, which is that they still do it really badly, but people still praise the show for being good the way they do the book.
00:18:21
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ah That will be extremely annoying for me personally. Yeah, I fear that might be the most likely outcome based on like what I understand about um everyone's like fandom status right now. um oh but hopefully They're gonna have a scene of the commissioner sitting down with Ilya and saying, Ilya, don't come out. You need to stay in the closet for the league's image. And everyone's gonna go, this is so realistic. like i What an interesting commentary on hockey culture.
00:18:54
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I feel like watching the show, because I know that that scene exists, because like famously it exists. I feel like watching the show, though, I couldn't imagine it in the show. Like, I feel like it's so out of the realm of possibility that I'm like, no way it will go in the show. Because the show, I feel like it's so much like, I don't know, it's not obviously like 100% accurate, but I'm like, it makes more sense, you know, so Yeah, or they're gonna have a guy who gets traded to Ottawa and everyone's like, wow, he's such a good guy because he turned on his teammate when women accused his teammate of sexual assault. And we're never gonna show these women or really discuss this whole issue. We're just gonna say, that guy is such a good guy for standing up to him.
00:19:38
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I really hate that bit, guys. Jacob Tierney, if you can hear me. like oh just like change feel free to change it it's fine yeah he's already been saying that he's like really eager to portray that storyline he's like yeah Troy Barrett is really necessary and I i keep reading these going like oh boy ah we're in from some for some discourse about this Oh gosh.
00:20:03
Speaker
but Yeah. Also, though, they are saying I saw recently they were like, we need Canadian talent. So will you be auditioning for season two of Heated Rivalry?
00:20:16
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ah Not me personally. No. How about No, I can't act sadly. But if anyone's listening and you're going to audition, please just like tell me how it goes. I'm like so rooting for you.
00:20:30
Speaker
Well, wait, what if they need an in-universe podcast? Like, they had, was it Man in the Crease in season one What if they're like, we need ah woke gay Ottawa Senators podcast? You know what? Jacob Tierney, I will even, like, put aside my own morals and I will go on your fake podcast and be like, I love Troy Barrett, woke king. and my god know Oh my gosh. Like actually though, cause wait, isn't like the new book that Rachel Reed is writing, like the podcasters are the villains.
00:21:02
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ro but oh yeah. I can also play ah of the role of villain. That's fine. yeah Like whatever you need me for. so funny. Throwing our hat in the ring. Yes. I feel like the thing, I feel like if any podcast is going to get a cameo, it won't be us. And it's so messed up.
00:21:21
Speaker
Cause like we're literally, There's a podcast. There's a hockey podcast. and I'm pretty sure that people are Bruins fans. So if you were going to have them, you should have had them when Ilya was in Boston. If Ilya is in Ottawa and you have a cameo by a Boston podcast, it makes no sense.
00:21:38
Speaker
No, you need an Ottawa podcast. And look, the book's like... get gayer later I mean, obviously not really, but in the sense of like, there are more gay players and the team vibe in Ottawa is more, you know, progressive and gay.
00:21:56
Speaker
so like, why don't you have our podcast there? Show how our demographic is reacting to everything that's happening. Yeah. Guys, everybody start tagging Jacob Tierney on Twitter.
00:22:12
Speaker
now Now I'm picturing us getting a cameo and then all the fans are like, I'm going to go check out this hockey podcast to see what they're saying about my favorite book series. It's like a very like measured, like, well, like it's like it's just mostly criticism. But like, I can argue it's very measured.
00:22:28
Speaker
like that's the thing. I feel like we're not we're like doing the opposite instead of pandering. We're talking to like the heated rivalry fandom. Which they are, as are equals. Because they are. Like, we respect the heated rivalry fandom enough to be like, here are my measured critiques of this media. You know what i mean?
00:22:45
Speaker
well yeah. And I think I might have said this when I gave my review of the book, but, like, I think that romance is capable of exploring difficult topics. Like, not to the same extent as other genres know, but, like, you can write romance, like...
00:23:03
Speaker
Romance can be well written and it can have important messages. And I think that you are um like almost being condescending toward the genre if you're saying, like what do you expect from romance? Obviously, it's not going to address any of these issues well. like I take romance seriously and i expect better from it. Yeah.
00:23:25
Speaker
There you go. That's why we should have a cameo. We're the only ones who respect it enough. Yeah. Criticize it. and don't know. We're not pandering. We're not bullshitting anyone. and were You know that these are our honest thoughts.
00:23:42
Speaker
Mm hmm. I feel bad though because I feel like I am just like oh my gosh like I'm like so caught up in like the show i'm like oh my god it's so good but I'm not heel turning still maintain that there are issues in the book is not good ah there you go what you need to get into next You need to read the Between the Teeth series. will. And then the rest of Taylor Fitzpatrick's books. And you need to text me all your thoughts about it. And come into the next episode ready to talk about my Blorbo of all time, my best friend, David Chapman.
00:24:16
Speaker
You need to get in on this. That's a book series that actually does a good job of portraying homophobia and hockey accurately. i definitely will. That's the thing is that I think I needed also the heated rivalry baseline of like, okay,
00:24:28
Speaker
Like, I've read it, I've watched it, now I'm ready to read something probably better. it's such a rabbit hole. I have now, like, it's now happened several times where I have gotten friends into Between the Teeth, and then I check in and they're like, yeah, I'm just reading all of Taylor Fitzpatrick's books, I'm deep in the obsession, like, I haven't read anything else for two months.
00:24:51
Speaker
Oh my gosh, this is awesome. And also, Always in Tandem, the other like big series, it's still updating. So I'm so sorry, guys, to people who follow me on Twitter.
00:25:02
Speaker
i tweet so much about Always in Tandem. Every time there's an update, I'm just talking about if you're wondering who these guys called Robbie and Georgie are, like, It's the main characters of Always in Tandem. They are living rent-free in my brain. It's all I can think about. I'm tweeting about them several times a day. I'm so sorry, but the only way to understand what I'm talking about is to read Always in Tandem and start following along with the like updates every two weeks or so. I will. Although, I guess i don't really see the Twitter. I don't see anything on Twitter, really. But that's okay.
00:25:39
Speaker
i will I will read it. And then I will know. Yeah. So, guys, between the teeth first, then always in tandem. You can also read always in tandem later because it's like There are mild spoilers for other series, but not really.
00:25:52
Speaker
The other ones you have to read, just an update, guys, you have to read No Expectation of Returns, which is really short, but it's really good. You also have to read It's a Setup, just because it's my favorite. Not my favorite. It's my third favorite after all Between the Teeth and Always in Tandem, but it's so good. I love it so much. Very self-contained as well. Doesn't spoil any of the others.
00:26:08
Speaker
Update, though, from the last episode, I read Impaired Judgment and Other Excuses, and I did not like it. I don't think it's worth reading, except for the fact that it crosses over with other series. Yeah. So warning everybody, impaired judgment and other excuses is not Beata approved.
00:26:24
Speaker
But those other those four I mentioned, those are the four like goaded series that you have to read. Sounds good. I did i think I'm just gonna like, when it's time to read it all, i'm just gonna like bookmark this part of the podcast and just listen back to like understand what I have to do.
00:26:39
Speaker
Yeah, or just text me. Just ask me yeah which ones you should read. yeah And i I will reply instantly. I'll be like, here are all your options. Here's what I would recommend. yeah, those four I mentioned, those are the four you need to read.
00:26:52
Speaker
Honestly, I did read, i ended up reading You Could Make a Life, the book that sort of like started the whole universe. That's the one where the Leafs win the cup. So I didn't want to read it. Not as Leafs not Not as much like leaves propaganda as I expected. So it was it was fine. You can read it.
00:27:08
Speaker
it's like It's not a must read, but it's cute. I enjoyed it. It does involve a Habs player being referred to exclusively by the Sens as just the diver, which is great. I really appreciated that.
00:27:20
Speaker
but um There was some Sens propaganda at the end, in fact. all all these hockey romance series they just love doing Ottawa propaganda it's so fun oh oh my gosh yeah this reminds me this is somewhat going back to heated rivalry I'm sorry what how did everyone celebrate Ottawa's inaugural Shane Hollander day oh my god i was mad about it my thing is like Mark Sutcliffe like come like don't like Mark Sutcliffe is king of pandering I feel like like i don't believe he watched he did rivalry but anyway that was an aside it was lame didn't like it at all trying it should have been David Chapman day instead
00:28:04
Speaker
you guys would know what I'm talking about if you read the Between the Teeth series. He's also an Ottawa boy. oh also other Ottawa propaganda in Taylor Fitzpatrick's books. Guys, another reason that you have to read It's a Setup is because this isn't like a huge spoiler, but it's a it's a like important plot point at one point that the main characters are in the Stanley Cup finals against the Ottawa Senators. And I was reading this. OK, I guess it is kind of important.
00:28:29
Speaker
I'm spoiling things, but I was like, oh my god, they're going to beat the Sens. I'm going to be so mad. They don't. They lose to the Sens in the finals. The Sens win the cup. How many cups did the Sens have in, like, hockey romance novels?
00:28:44
Speaker
Everyone is writing about the Sens winning the cup. It's crazy. this so funny. I feel like Ottawa has never been more, like, like just relevant than right now.
00:28:56
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, that was a very long tangent to start. We haven't even gotten into, like, any actual hockey. I'm so sorry. It's just so relevant these days, guys. Exactly. And it's because in, like, in in the books, it sends when the cup.
00:29:12
Speaker
In the real life sense, it's not as good all the time. Although, maybe. I don't know what to think, guys.
00:29:24
Speaker
Like... They're too far out right now. It's really hard to have hope. Like, I know they're currently eight points out. We're recording this right before another game. um And like, look, it's not insurmountable, but like, it's a lot of points to make up. in In the era of the loser point, like, we need one of the teams above us to fall off the face of the earth. And we also need the sentence to be good. And honestly, you know what?
00:29:51
Speaker
I believe in the possibility of both of those things. Yeah, because like looking at the standings, I could pick a couple of points. seven actually I just checked. Yeah, because it's like I could see like a couple of these teams.
00:30:05
Speaker
i face disappear You know what i mean? Like I could see a couple of them. Like I think they're like artificially good or whatever right now. i don't I'm saying this as someone who's not watched any games other than Sens games recently. It's like they might be legit good. i don't know. In my head, Buffalo is not legit good, but they might be.
00:30:23
Speaker
Buffalo, from what I understand, just has a hot goalie. Okay. Detroit also fake good right now. And Detroit has a habit of falling off the face of the earth in the second half of the season. So I'm eyeing them. In fact, why don't we talk about this right now? that The Detroit Red Wings did something very exciting recently, didn't they?
00:30:42
Speaker
did I did. got the best text of my life. The Detroit Red Wings extended Chirot. We get to keep looking up but Ben Chirot cap friendly, even though cap friendly doesn't exist. Who would have now who could have guessed that making fun of Ben Chirot's contract would outlive cap friendly by several years? That's so beautiful to me. Yeah.
00:31:05
Speaker
like I've come back from where I'm like, I haven't watched the Detroit Red Wings play hockey because like why would I? i don't know if they played the Suns recently but if they did I didn't watch it. I'm like is Ben Chirot like good? And then I googled it and like no he's not. Don't worry everyone. He's not good. It makes no sense.
00:31:22
Speaker
Because I was like this is such an unforced error. Why would they do that? and it doesn't make sense. I love this. It's wonderful. And also like Boston could fall off the face of the earth too for all we know. Yeah.
00:31:33
Speaker
That's the thing. I thought Boston was supposed to be bad. Like, you don't prove it right, I don't know. it's so annoying. yeah and it's also just like, okay, part of what's so frustrating about the Sens this year is like,
00:31:47
Speaker
I think they're at least the second best team in the Atlantic, if not the best team. If you look at the actual advanced stats, like they are the best defensive team in the entire league. They actually have improved every single thing that on every single thing that they needed to improve on after last year's playoffs, which I didn't even think they were going to do. right like Their finishing is so much better. Their defensive play is fantastic. like They have great depth throughout the lineup. They The advanced stats show that they are legitimately a really good team. And people are not even saying that we need league average goaltending. They're saying if the Sens had slightly below league average goaltending, they would be easily in a playoff spot. Like, it's so frustrating.
00:32:34
Speaker
Yeah, but that's the thing is like, okay, obviously it's a super small sample size. I'm like, i don't want to jinx anything. So like knock on wood, I feel like Allmark since coming back has like been okay.
00:32:46
Speaker
I don't know. Cause like, I guess so yesterday, cause we're, yeah, like you said, recording this right before the defense game today. eat So they won in against the Penguins or was that two days ago?
00:32:57
Speaker
and don't remember. But they, like, in total, they had 16 shots against, and Omar let in two of them. So it's like, okay, technically speaking, not good, but they still won. Like, so, you know? Yeah, also, i think one of those goals was not great, but the other one was fine. Like, yeah, he he played fine. He has been playing fine since coming back.
00:33:17
Speaker
So, like... I don't know. i i think they're a good enough team that, like, they don't even need crazy good luck to go on a huge run. They just need, like, decent goaltending and to continue playing the way they're playing because they look, they have looked so good recently. Mm-hmm.
00:33:35
Speaker
That's, and, like, people are taking notice. Real, like like, hockey writers and stuff. All the hockey writers. They're, like, the darlings. But that's the thing. is that It's almost like we need, like, It's like if the Hamburglar run was like he was just fine.
00:33:49
Speaker
Like we need just, yeah, like a fine streak. Yeah, well, and I always think of the Hamburglar run as like, that's my, or no, it's more like it reminds me um what it takes to make up that many points in the standings. Because remember, jury at the start of the Hamburglar run, it was around this time of the year, and they were 14 points out of a playoff spot. And I remember at that point, I was like, yeah, they're probably not going to make the playoffs, but like, it's not impossible. If they just go on a winning streak, it's fine.
00:34:17
Speaker
And they had to win every single game, basically, from there on out. And they still only made the playoffs on the final day of the season. Like, that's how hard it is to make up that kind of ground in the era of the loser points. So yeah, seven points out, that's half of what they were facing with the Hamburglar run. But, you know, that's still a lot, right? Like, they need to win and they also need the teams ahead of them to lose. Because it feels like since I started looking at the standings, they've only made up like two or three points, you know?
00:34:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's the thing is that i like I haven't been looking at the standings. I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, i don't like that's none of my business. like The standings are none of my business. But yeah, looking at it's crazy because in my head, was like, oh, like they've been playing so well. They're going on like a bit of a run. Maybe like we must be close. And it's like, ah no, not so much.
00:35:09
Speaker
Yeah, well, because right now, see, we we're very smart and we're recording this like right before a game. um So ah who knows how things are going to change. Apparently, if they win tonight against Carolina, ah they will have a 50% chance of making the playoffs, which is great. But like right now they're at 61 points. The top wildcard team is Washington with 63 points, but we have two games in hand over them tonight.
00:35:32
Speaker
It's whatever, you know, like we're basically leading the pack of the wildcard teams that aren't in a playoff spot. What we really need to pay attention to is the Atlantic teams because they're also holding down both wildcard positions. Boston has 68 points and we have one game in hand over them, right? So if we win that game in hand, that means that we are five points out, which like that's...
00:35:53
Speaker
not impossible. First of all, we have to win the game in hand, but like, it still requires that we, that Boston lose a few games, you know? And then the thing is Buffalo is only one point ahead of Boston with a game in hand.
00:36:06
Speaker
And then Montreal, one point ahead of them, Detroit two points ahead of them. Like it's, And we have oh we have a lot of games in hand over Detroit. So, like you know it's it's possible, but like we need the Suns to keep winning and we also need at least one. We only need one of those teams, actually. Just one of those teams to go on a long losing streak. So, guys, open up Etsy. if you If you're into witchcraft yourself, like maybe maybe we start ah cursing one team. let's Let's pick just one. I vote Red Wings.
00:36:36
Speaker
personally. Yeah. the I also am wondering like how the Olympic break will like affect things because it's like it's almost like if they go on like a huge run right like if they just like win until the olympic i yeah it is hilarious timing watch it like it's going to be potentially out of date as soon as it gets uploaded this episode but whatever you what mean because then it's like oh will it kill the momentum or will it be like they love the feeling of winning so much because assuming at least one of the players on the sense wins gold and then they're like oh my gosh like actually no that won't happen
00:37:10
Speaker
Obviously not. many people on the Senate are going to the Olympics? Is Oliver going? No, he's not. ah It's Brady, Sanderson, Matt DiColo, Lars Eller, and Matt Stogard, and obviously Timmy.
00:37:28
Speaker
And I yeah think that's it. And no Thomas Shabbat. I forgot. Fucked up. But also, what if somebody gets injured? Like, on the Sens or on another team? We don't know.
00:37:38
Speaker
Yeah. It's true. Yeah. So, we'll see how that goes. Like, i I want to believe. I'm kind of cautiously optimistic. But, like...
00:37:49
Speaker
We need some results here. Actually, I have been um doing ah some great work to make sure the Sens win. i actually have to reveal why they have won the last few games.
00:38:02
Speaker
Basically, a few days ago, one of my very best friends who lives in Calgary texted me a selfie where she was wearing a Sens hat. And she was like, she's not a hockey fan at all. And she was like, I have no idea how this hat ended up in my house. But I found this hat and I wore it when I was out walking the dog.
00:38:19
Speaker
And I have no idea how it happened. I was like, okay, this is a good sign for the Sens. I'm taking this as a good sign. And then I texted her like, haha, you know, the Sens are playing tonight. So like, you better be prepared to wear this hat every time they play. And then the Sens won. And so I texted her, hey, can you wear the hat next game? And she is a very good sport. I'm a terrible friend. ah But she has been wearing the hat every single game day.
00:38:44
Speaker
outside in Calgary to make sure that the Sens win. I think she is now actively rooting against them, but she's too afraid of me to stop wearing the hat. But like, I've been, I've been doing the work to make sure that the Sens keep winning. And I hope everybody else is doing similar things here. my gosh. i that's amazing. Thank you so much to you and your friend for your like dedication.
00:39:07
Speaker
I think if the Sens do win the cup, it goes like Brady, Brady, you to your friend oh oh 100% I am expecting that yeah but yeah I don't know I feel bad I don't think I've been doing anything but now I can't start doing anything it's what it's not doing yeah just just whatever you're doing whatever you've been doing recently you gotta keep it up yeah so yeah Sens are good?
00:39:35
Speaker
question mark they're good but they are being unfairly punished by the league And we need to start rooting for the other teams to fall off a cliff. Oh, wait, we should also say um all of this stuff about the Sens and whether they're going to make the playoffs is really distracting from something really important, which is that the Leafs are really bad. in, they're tied with the Sens and the standings, but like in a bad way.
00:39:59
Speaker
No, it's like crazy. You know what the difference is? Oh, wait, never mind. thought that the Leafs were on a losing streak. Apparently they're not. I thought they were. But whatever. They were for a little. And they've played one more game than we have. That makes a whole difference.
00:40:12
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. so and apparently they've just been bad. and we're finally having to we're finally getting to really get excited about the possibility of the Leafs missing the playoffs. And that's really fun. And they're talking about a massive teardown. And it's just so wonderful.
00:40:32
Speaker
i'm so happy about this. So there's one silver lining to this season, you know? Yeah, that would be so huge. At least tear it down. It's like, I feel like they've been talking about it for so long that the actual payoff is just gonna like go so like, gonna be awesome.
00:40:47
Speaker
Now we just need one team to fall out of the playoffs. Guys, like, I almost feel bad reading for this. But like, how funny would it be if it was Buffalo?
00:40:58
Speaker
Like Buffalo or Detroit, can you imagine if they were so securely at a playoff spot in February and then somehow managed to crash and burn and be overtaken by the Ottawa Senators? Like, come on. Come on, guys.
00:41:17
Speaker
i feel like it must be Buffalo. Like in my head, it just is what makes sense. Mm-hmm. I feel like the hockey gods will make sure it's Buffalo. It's like, okay, I believe in the Red Wings' ability to go on a long losing streak and miss the playoffs because that's what they tend to do.
00:41:38
Speaker
I also just believe that the Sabres are cosmically cursed and will inevitably fall out of the playoff picture. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, i just, it's like in the universe's hands, but like, I believe in the universe.
00:41:53
Speaker
And I also believe in, you know, Boston and Montreal just not being very good and falling out of the playoffs. Like, it could happen to any of those teams, which is really exciting. I agree. That's the thing. I feel like Again, saying this as someone who has not watched like a single Montreal Canadiens game, they're definitely fake good, right? like They're not actually good.
00:42:15
Speaker
eight i think i think they're less fake than we're saying they are. So here's the thing. Every time people are like, oh my god, Ottawa is a really good team. they're just Their season is being tanked by bad goaltending. Habs fans jump in and they're like, we're in the exact same situation and the Habs have managed to make the playoffs.
00:42:35
Speaker
And the Habs situation is not nearly as bad as the Sens. It's like, it's the Sens, but like a little bit less bad. Their goaltending is slightly better than that, which makes me think they're like not super, ah they're like actually kind of good. But also I'm pretty sure they still have their weird record in one goal games and like tons of loser points and stuff.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's a lot of loser points. So I... Oh, they have one more loser point than we do. It's a lot. Seven is respectable. Eight, that's embarrassing, guys.
00:43:07
Speaker
oh my gosh. Again, potentially like this episode has the power to become out of date like immediately. No, but eight is like, i don't know. It's like if you have eight loser points.
00:43:21
Speaker
oh Let me see. No, I was about to say in like 55 games played, but they have 56. Okay, never mind. Oh, no. The of the power to do the exact same thing. That's fine. Look, I just don't think the Habs are that good.
00:43:36
Speaker
And I think they could fall out of contention. And that's something like, you know, we name the teams, right? It's like Detroit, Montreal, Buffalo, Boston. The chances of all four of them falling off a cliff in the, you know, last 30, 20 games of the season, whatever. Very low, right? Like all four of those teams are having a good season. Yeah.
00:43:57
Speaker
But like one of them, like surely between those four, one of them is going to crack, right? Yeah, like if they don't, it's like the exact same thing as like I don't know. It's just like so unlucky. It's like, what are the odds that like the one time we need them to crack, they don't when they like when it's happened every other season. Honestly, now that I'm saying this out loud, the odds of that happening to the Suns are like really good. like the odds that we get really unlucky are actually amazing. So that's going to suck if that happens.
00:44:30
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. And it's just like the sends have been so streaky too. So it's like, yeah, now I'm feeling good. And I'm like, if they just keep playing like this, they'll be great. But I don't know. They're probably just gonna have a stretch where they're terrible. Still, i I'm gonna I've talked myself into this now.
00:44:47
Speaker
And I'm going to lock in this prediction. I feel like i need to wait until the last two games before the Olympic break before I really feel optimistic. But I'm going to lock this in. i think the Sens get into the playoffs on the final day of the season. And I think the team they knock out is the Buffalo Sabres.
00:45:04
Speaker
I believe. That's the other thing, though. Is that, like... I feel like there was like a vibe shift. Like I feel like the Sens are like, like back. And I feel like, I don't know. i think that it's like, okay, part of the reason I feel like this is because, okay, and obviously there was like all that like weird stuff where like people were being really weird online about Allmark and like, okay,
00:45:25
Speaker
don't do that everyone i don't think the people listening did that but like that was so dumb I just like was like oh the whole thing is really stupid like why would people do that but anyway I feel like stuff like that has the power to just like tank your whole season also because it's like everyone just feels terrible and everyone's just like not like in a bad mood and everything which like so fair because it's like People are being very weird online. That would definitely affect people. But like I feel like it's like the resiliency a little bit where like he came back and like obviously they're like going on a bit of a run. In my head, I'm like, that's the turning point. Like the fact that they like didn't completely crumble with that. I don't know. That's like my feeling on it. It feels like a very sort of galvanizing moment where they're like rallying behind their goaltender and stuff. And it's such a feel good story. Like, oh, I want I want to believe. Also, I am looking at the Sens schedule for the later half of the season. They play the Sabres on April 2nd, which is toward the end of the season. So I'm going to I'm going to predict that they win that game and then that they clinch a playoff spot in the final game of the season, which is against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
00:46:33
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. Like, I believe. It's like it was written to happen. This is my prediction. And then i will not be able to pay attention to the playoffs because I will be writing the bar. No, actually, that's that's after the hard parts. Maybe I'll be fine. Maybe I'll be able to watch. Yeah, there you go. I feel like I don't know. because like guys There are hard sections of the bar and there are easy sections, you know, that's how it works.
00:47:00
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. But I agree. i agree with that. But yeah, I don't know. I think that I think that the Sens, obviously, it's like kind of annoying because it's like not totally like in their own hands, you know, like they could play really good hockey and then just like everyone else is playing good hockey. So it doesn't actually matter. but Like they don't really control their own fate. I don't think like I don't know the schedule and I haven't like worked out the math, but assuming they don't, that's kind of frustrating. But like i feel like they I believe in them to be able to do their part.
00:47:30
Speaker
And if they fall apart right after I say this, like in 50 minutes when they start playing, then that's my bad. But you know what i get you know what I mean? Like, I feel like I believe in them. I just don't necessarily believe but That will be good enough.
00:47:44
Speaker
But I hope so. i know. and the thing is, like, you start getting ahead of yourself sometimes where I'm like, look, if they just win the two games before the Olympic break, like, they'll be in a decent position. And then we'll be able to get out of the Olympics being, like, all ready for the final push and everything.
00:48:01
Speaker
like but if they lose those two games like we're kind of screwed you know so yeah or you know if Brady or Sanderson get injured at the olympics Timmy gets injured at the olympics like that's that's it right yeah that's the thing is like Timmy's the one where I'm like maybe this is incorrect I'm pretty sure Germany won't probably won't win gold no offense to like German hockey players I just like that's the vibe I get I feel like maybe not So it's like, that would hurt because it's like, man, Timmy got injured and they didn't even, they weren't, they didn't win gold, you know? But yeah.
00:48:37
Speaker
But also like, then it's also like if Brady gets injured playing for, you know, giving his, yeah giving it his all for the US in like the gold medal game against Canada, it's like, yeah, that' the that's a terrible for a different reason. It's fan. I don't know. Yeah, honestly, any of them getting injured would obviously be horrible. So don't do that. Yeah. So anyways, pivoting to that discussion, how are we feeling about the Olympics?
00:49:05
Speaker
I don't know. i feel like, okay, i I don't know if you read the like, or men's hockey, the Connor McDavid, like, it's like, he's in the Players' Tribune or whatever. I saw excerpts of it, but I haven't read the whole thing. I read it and I was like, oh, okay. Like, so like,
00:49:23
Speaker
I feel like the like the Canadian feeling is like coming a bit. You know what I mean? like I felt like, oh my gosh, like I really believe in link Team Canada, blah, blah. That being said, though, I honestly don't even know who's on the team. like i All I know is that Connor McDavid is there and Thomas Chabot isn't there.
00:49:39
Speaker
so i have no idea. so all you need to know. Yeah, the roster was, like, fine. I remember, yeah, for... Okay, i think it's for men's hockey. i remember I saw the roster and I was like, you could do better, but also, like, it's hard to go wrong with the talent pool that Canada has. Like, they don't have any good options in goal, but everywhere else, like, yeah, I genuinely think Thomas Chabot should have, like, at least been considered for the team, but all the defensemen there are pretty good. it's It's not like, you know, it's not like they made any really egregious... mistakes and stuff. um Maybe in some cases went a little heavy on like tough guys who
00:50:18
Speaker
Why do you do that for international tournaments when you know that, like, you always run into trouble with the refs? I, like, yeah, I don't think, I don't remember if Tom Wilson is injured or not, but he was initially named to the roster and now they have Sam Bennett too. And it's like, you know that in international competition, like, every single time you have one of these tournaments, Canada takes a million penalties and then, like, complains that the refs are the reason they lost or whatever. Well, sometimes they will. Usually they win, but you know, if they lose, they're like, oh, it's all because of the refs. And it's like, they call things the exact same way in every single one of these tournaments. So why are you like, not adjusting to that? Bit of a tangent, but that's like always a problem I have. It feels like they're
00:50:56
Speaker
looking at the other teams and going, oh, we need to counter the Kachuks with toughness of our own when it's like, chances are the refs are going to shut down the Kachuks for you. Like, there's no need to focus on that. um But anyways, yeah, what I'm getting at is like, I think their roster is fine.
00:51:12
Speaker
i i am tempted to be like, oh, this doesn't look like a gold medal winning roster. But also like they had mostly the same roster at Four Nations and they won. so Yeah, you know. Yeah, that's the thing. The other thing is that I feel like, um obviously, like, there's different competitions, not just the US, s but like, assuming US is like biggest competition or whatever.
00:51:32
Speaker
i feel like that roster, they made a lot of weird decisions, namely, like not bringing Jason Robertson. Yeah, that was weird. No one can see this, but such a cute cat. Yeah, so guys, this is Tanya. She is choosing this moment to be silent when she never really is. ah She doesn't like it when I close my door, so I leave my door open for her so she can join in the podcast whenever she wants. If you follow me on Twitter or Blue Sky, you might know this cat because um she's gotten into a habit where every day at 7pm she sits on the couch and she waits for her hockey game to start.
00:52:05
Speaker
And if there's no hockey game on she screams at us until we put a hockey game on. So she's very hyped for the Olympics. And now probably asking me why I'm not getting ready for the hockey game now. yeah Sorry, tangent.
00:52:19
Speaker
You were saying about the US. I think, yeah, weird roster. just and like The Jason Robertson, like leaving leaving Jason Robertson off was so weird. And like obviously, like they shouldn't have done that.
00:52:32
Speaker
But also, as someone who wants the US to lose, I'm like, well, works to our advantage. Exactly. Yeah, there's also been some discourse about whether Shane Pinto was an egregious snub from the team or like is slightly a slightly silly player for people to be so upset about leaving behind. i think Shane Pinto would have made a great like fourth liner on Team USA. He has been fantastic defensively. I'm i am glad the US left him at home.
00:52:59
Speaker
as a Canadian fan yeah that's the thing i it's like the four nations I remember also like it's like the feeling of just like hating Sens players I was also just like i don't like I want this feeling to go away soon but for a couple of games after the Sens like started again I was like I hate you Brady Chuck and it wasn't a good feeling See, that's the thing. What I remember is I hated Brady Kachuk so much where I was like, I don't know if I could ever like this guy again. I feel like I still haven't fully recovered.
00:53:28
Speaker
But then the thing is with Sanderson, because he was a last minute like injury replacement and then he came in and scored a goal. I was just happy for him. I was like, people are noticing Jake Sanderson. So maybe it'll be more of the same with that, but I will not be happy if Jake Sanderson plays too well against Canada.
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing is that like, i I, guess, I don't know what other people like what the consensus is. But like, I personally do not cheer for like, I don't cheer for Ottawa.
00:54:00
Speaker
players in the Olympics if they're not on Canada. That's like my pick. Well, no, it depends. I will be watching every Team Germany game. I will be cheering for Tim Stรผtzler. I mean, because the thing is, for is like I don't think Germany is actually going win. So like, it's whatever. I'm going to be cheering for Canada and Germany, right?
00:54:19
Speaker
Honestly, if Germany knocks out Canada in the elimination rounds, like, I'll be happy. That's the thing. I think I would just be like, okay, like, that's so cool. Go to me, go. Fair enough. Like, it's just, I think it's like, basically only the US where I'm like, and that's the thing, like, so many and the players are American. so like, yeah. Well, I remember the last Olympics that NHLers were at, which was 2014, right? yeah um I was like, oh, how am I going to root against Team Sweden when they have Erik Karlsson? But that gold medal game, i was rooting for Canada. I was not rooting for Erik Karlsson.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah, that is interesting, though. Germany, Canada, gold medal game. i think you'd just be like, okay, weird. I think because I would cheer for Canada. But then if Germany won, I'd be like, you know what?
00:55:06
Speaker
Let's go. Yeah, I'd be like, okay. It was all Tim Stutz. I'm so excited to see what he can do on like a shitty team.
00:55:18
Speaker
Like, it's really, it's going be him and Leon Dreisaitl and then Moritz Seider just, like, skating circles around everybody else. It's going to be so good. I'm so excited for Tim Strzel to be the center of attention. Yeah, so true.
00:55:32
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what else. I think, I guess I, and do you have, like, a prediction for men's hockey? The thing is, i' of I honestly feel like the U.S. is going to win both tournaments, and I really, really hope I'm wrong.
00:55:46
Speaker
Yeah, I'm nervous, especially for goaltending. Because, okay, yeah like... I don't, I think I'm too Ottawa charge-pilled, but in my head, she's not even the starter. But I'm like, well, Phillips is the greatest goalie of all time. But she's not starting even, right? So I'm like, okay. But that's crazy, too. Like, I am currently writing a women's Olympic hockey preview for Silver 7, which will probably be up before this podcast is. And I'm previewing, like, yeah, the US and Gwyneth Phillips, and I'm like...
00:56:17
Speaker
How scary is it that they have a goaltender that's better than Gwyneth Phillips? but like, that's why I'm like, oh, shoot. Okay, that's scary. and in my head, I was like, maybe she's not starting because like, it' like whatever the like, whoever's managing this is just like, so silly and doesn't know how good she is. But I worry that it's because there is someone who is better. You know what I mean? Yeah, Erin Frankel is pretty good. I feel like Gwyneth Phillips is better. okay so there you go. But like, Erin Frankel is still very good.
00:56:46
Speaker
Yeah, so that's nerve-wracking. you know Yeah, if we want to talk women's, I'm much more concerned about Team Canada's roster there. it is like It's so tricky with the women's hockey. And again, like I'm repeating myself from the Silver 7 article, but like you can kind of look at Canada's roster construction from two perspectives, right? On the one hand, you're like, this roster is going to absolutely steamroll every team except for one of them in the tournament, right? Like this is just like an incredibly deep team.
00:57:17
Speaker
Just some of the best players at every single position. Like it's absolutely ridiculous that there's this much talent on one team. But then the other way of looking at it is how does this team stack up against the one team that can compete with them? And it's not well.
00:57:33
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Yeah, I don't know. It's unfortunate. but like in my head, I'm also just like, for some reason, i feel like country like teams, like they bring out clutchness more. And in my heart and in my head, Canada is more clutch. Which like I like how every, i feel like every statistical person is like,
00:57:53
Speaker
Clutchness is not actually a factor and actually that's made up and actually you're looking at a tiny sample size. But in my heart and in my head clutchness is real and Canada is more clutch so... Oh, 100%. And like, it's happened plenty of times that the US has won, you know, the rivalry series or Worlds or whatever, or gone in as the favorite and like Canada pulls it off. Like Canada just like owns at the Olympics in women's hockey. And, you know, as as we have established, Marie-Philippe Poulet, even though she's not very clutch when she plays for the Victoire, she's clutch when she plays for Team Canada. She she is not clutch. She just really hates the US. i This is has been my theory for a while. It's true. Also, yeah, like that's the thing. If nothing else, it'll be so nice to be on like Marie-Philippe's side again. you know. I missed it.
00:58:45
Speaker
ah Do I have to pull out my MPP Canada jersey again? I haven't. It's been retired for ages. Because, okay, here's the thing, guys. Like, first of all, I have been a Poulet fan for ages. One of the reasons I'm a fan of hers is that she's my birthday twin. So, like, years ago, i got her jersey for my birthday because, like, I share a birthday with Poulet. And it's it was so long ago that it doesn't even have a C on it.
00:59:10
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Like an original fan. Yeah. So i people were actually shocked when I turned on her with the PWHL. Like this is how auto-appealed I am.
00:59:22
Speaker
i loved Poulet until the PWHL started. yeah But then the thing is like, oh my gosh, it'll be so nice root for her for a bit again. Yeah.
00:59:34
Speaker
It will be. And we've got some charge players on Team Canada too. Although like, well, okay. Brienne Jenner has been great. I'm really excited to see her. ah Emily Clark, obviously also great. Jocelyn Leirac.
00:59:46
Speaker
What is she doing on this roster? I'm so sorry. Like, love you, Queen. um So happy for you. Glad she gets one last kick at the can with the Olympics. But like, girl.
01:00:00
Speaker
Yeah. Like, okay, so here's the thing with the roster, though. It's generally it feels like Canada is making the exact same mistakes that the US made at the last Olympics, which is they're not trusting the youth. They're like leaning on veterans and prioritizing like players that they know. over the best players and it's especially weird when we have the pwhl so we can see exactly how they stack up against each other um also feels like it's more shady tactics from the toronto scepters yeah i don't know it's i guess like we'll see but i agree where it's like it is i feel like it's it's all i i don't know if this is like
01:00:41
Speaker
Because I feel like I forget any other Olympics. i So I don't know if this is like typically the tactic, but I do feel like they do prioritize. They are prioritizing like like experience more, which is interesting.
01:00:53
Speaker
Maybe it'll work. Who knows? Whereas the US has gone big into the youth movement. As we can see from the two charge players being represented, which are Rory Gilde and um Gwyneth Phillips, both both Olympic rookies.
01:01:09
Speaker
it's Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't bring in Savannah Harmon because I was really excited to talk shit. Yeah. But they made the right decision. as an Ottawa Charge fan, I know that Rory Gilday is a better choice than Savannah Harmon.
01:01:23
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. and don't and don't really have any predictions. I'm, like, very bad at I think I predict that everyone will have a good time watching. Mm-hmm. I... Well, the thing is, like, especially with women's hockey, there's there's almost two tournaments, right? There's the Canada versus USA who wins gold. And, like, would be incredible, like, for the sport if somebody upset them in the semis, you know? But, um like, it could happen. I'm not saying it's impossible. It's just, like, generally it's Canada and the US is the one tournament. And then there's the rest of them in the race for the bronze medal, which, like...
01:02:01
Speaker
I've been saying this for years. When people complain about how women's hockey is just like a two-team sport, it's like, and why aren't you watching the other teams play each other? There are so many other teams that are so much fun. I always watch the non-Canada US games, and they're tons of fun. But yeah, like i am really excited to see what Czechia can do.
01:02:23
Speaker
Unfortunately, they're not as Ottawa charge-heavy as I thought they were because all our Czech players left. But... um You know, i would be really cool if Czechia could finally medal. And obviously I'm going to be watching Finland because of my girl, Rania Savalainen.
01:02:39
Speaker
so should be fun. Yeah, I think also that's the thing. I think especially with like PWHL, it'll make all the other teams just like that much more exciting. Because it's like, I feel like now like you know them more, you know? Like where before i I was like not really aware of any like non-Canadian or American players as much. Yeah.
01:03:00
Speaker
I know like before i was kind of aware of a few players but that's because I was like really into women's hockey right um whereas so I knew like at least a few like really good players to watch on each team whereas now it's like no a bunch of these players are like some of my favorite players they're on my favorite team or you know they're they're on a rival team or they used to be charge players and not anymore so it adds like a little bit of excitement to it like yeah as someone who is like doesn't know as much definitely i feel like I will get a lot more out of like this tournament as I have like than I have past tournaments I think it's like probably true of like basically every PWHL fan where it's like it's so much like obviously more accessible now to just like know there's like on many many different teams so I think it'll be a fun tournament for everyone to watch Because that's the thing, it's like, you you probably have rooting interest in like most games now, just based on like who plays for the, like, I guess in our case, Ottawa Charge or not. So like, there you go.
01:04:00
Speaker
Obviously, like there might be more on other teams and there might be like Ottawa Charge players on multiple teams. But I think it's like fun to actually like be like invested in what will happen.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. i every Winter Olympics, I always just like have them on in the background all the time. Obviously going to be a little little bit harder to accomplish this year. Probably won't be able to pay too much attention, but i I'm going to try my best.
01:04:26
Speaker
Try my best without compromising my chances of passing the bar. If I fail, I'm going to blame the Olympics. There we go. There's my built-in excuse. I'm going to be like, I was i was too charge-pilled, too sense-pilled, too patriotic. it's like oh I feel like that's a valid excuse. I feel like they should accept that and just like give you 20 extra points or whatever. i don't know how the bar works, but yeah. Yeah, so true.
01:04:48
Speaker
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01:05:22
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