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S1-E94 : A look back at our bonkers predictions...
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As we reach just over the halfway point of the season, the two Josh's take a little look back at some of the predictions the team made at the start of the seasons, and be warned... there are some absurdly hot takes!
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Revisiting Season Predictions
00:00:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. You're not going mad. You were just listening to some excerpts from our podcast from many, many months ago, when we on the Daily Arsenal Podcast brought to you on the Global Sports Podcast Network, gave you our season predictions. And seeing as it's just past the midway point of the season, we thought we'd come back and have a little look at some of those predictions that we made, because a couple of them were A little bit outlandish, to say the very least. I'm your host, Josh Vinson. Joining me today, ah you heard him there, just then, disagreeing with Jamie the Arsenal. We're going to win the league. It's our very own Joshua Duncan. Josh, how are you doing, my man? You all right?
00:01:25
Josh D
Yeah, I'm not too bad. It's just just really cold now. you know it's It's just the weather.
00:01:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is freezing cold.
00:01:29
Josh D
It's just it's really, really cold.
00:01:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, is that bad in in London as well?
00:01:35
Josh D
Yeah, it's it's like the other day was like, mine is free when I played football on a Thursday. And I was just like, I'm not doing again. I'm not doing this again.
00:01:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
bloody hell I just thought it was the north that was getting that cold but no but no yeah I mean if you're listening in the UK it's been brutal I think in America it's like there's a super weather front coming in as well so they've got it worse bless them 2025 is a fun start but anyway as I said before we're going to be reviewing our season predictions from the start of the season
00:01:55
Josh D
Already.
Freezing Weather in the UK
00:02:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
um We're going to be focusing on four main people because ah Lewis is no longer with us and Noah comes in and out. So we're going to be focusing on the predictions that myself, Josh, Esmond and Jamie made at the start of the season. Although I do have something that Noah mentioned that I have to bring up and mention to you because it's hilarious. So the first thing that we're going to talk about is the manager to watch.
Managerial Picks and Praise for Slot
00:02:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
So Esmond asked us all to pick a manager who we thought was worth watching. Do you remember who your choice was for this?
00:02:34
Josh D
yeah slot on on slot
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was slot indeed, which was better than some of the other choices. Have a little listen and see if there's any, we'll talk about some of the more interesting choices in just a moment.
00:03:00
Josh D
Yellow slot, on the slot.
00:03:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
So they were a few of the predictions that we made. I mean, definitely yours was a good shout. You so you saw it from the very beginning slot, didn't you?
00:04:01
Josh D
Yeah, I watched their pre-season games. I was just like, yeah, they got them playing. They're playing a bit. yeah it's ah it's ah It's kind of like, oh, what's his name again? Clop. It's kind of like Clop.
00:04:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
00:04:11
Josh D
hide had it Yeah, but um nice. Yeah, he got them. He got them playing really well. Quick football, you know, counter-attacking as well. Everyone seems to know what they're doing. So, um yeah, um I think I got that
Job Security Discussions
00:04:23
Josh D
one right.
00:04:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah You were bang on the money there. I mean, the rest of us, it's safe to say we're not. I mean, Eddie Howe is, no, not Eddie Howe. Sean Dyche is still in a job. Just about, I think, because obviously the takeovers happened.
00:04:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's likely that they're probably going to move on someone new, I think.
00:04:39
Josh D
I think he's alright, to be fair, this season at least.
00:04:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, they're one point above the relegation zone am currently.
00:04:45
Josh D
Yeah, but like, look, Southampton's literally down, aren't they? Oh, didn't you say you were gonna stay up?
00:04:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll get to that, Josh. Thank you very much. But I mean, I have to bring in Jamie and Esman's shouts as well. Jamie, Oliver Glazner going to do a fantastic job, apparently. Palace of Languish in the 15th, which is only one place below Esman's choice of Julian Lofoteki. He has been disastrous, hasn't he, Lofoteki? He's been god awful.
00:05:17
Josh D
He's useless. He's absolutely useless. He's a handy P45 man, you know what mean he's he's Honestly, yeah, they just just don't look good, West Ham. They look really bad.
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:05:27
Josh D
And you know I've got a few of my colleagues in my workplace. They all support West Ham. And I would like to tell them, but surely. I know David Moyes is boring, but surely this is worse.
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:05:37
Josh D
He goes, no, no, we're playing good football and you knowre we're doing all right.
00:05:41
Josh D
And it's attacking football. That's what we want. I was like, yeah, but look who you are on the table. you know it Forget about the football. If you're not producing results, it was a point.
Team Struggles and Surprises
00:05:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's clearly not good attacking football, is it?
00:05:54
Josh D
No, it's not.
00:05:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because they, I mean, let's let's have a look and see how how many goals have they actually scored, West Ham. So they have scored, there's this good attacking football, 24 goals, sort of around the average in that area.
00:06:05
Josh D
Okay, okay.
00:06:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've conceded 39.
00:06:09
Josh D
That that says it all doesn't it?
00:06:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's all, they've got, hang on, have they got the, they have the third worst goal difference in the league, West Ham.
00:06:18
Josh D
I think I showed that shows defensively that they're terrible.
00:06:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
It shows a lot.
00:06:21
Josh D
They're really terrible.
00:06:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Where was Lopategi? Was he at Wolves briefly, Lopategi? I want to say he was, yeah, he was at another Prem club sort of when they were going through a bit of a tricky spot as well.
00:06:26
Josh D
I believe so. Yeah, I believe so. He was here. Yeah.
00:06:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you you definitely won that prediction, Josh.
00:06:34
Josh D
I think I'll take that one.
00:06:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's be honest with seeing how this season is going. um in terms of In terms of the impact signing, I'd argue that you might have won this one too.
00:06:37
Josh D
I still lose.
00:06:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you remember who you picked for this?
00:06:45
Josh D
Really? Yeah, think I think I'll put netto.
00:06:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
You did pick Nitto. No, you didn't win. Well, actually, ah I mean, No you didn't.
00:06:53
Josh D
I don't think it's really...
00:06:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
You didn't pick Neto as the impact signing.
00:06:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
You picked Neto later on. You picked David Raya.
00:06:56
Josh D
Did I put red, didn't I?
00:07:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's listen in.
00:07:01
Josh D
Yeah I did.
00:08:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's not Ricky Lambert, but he's better than that. I'm not sure where Esman was going with that attempt at Schlaid's.
00:08:55
Josh D
I don't know where he... Honestly, honestly, I'm lost for words. I'm still lost for words.
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
on it honestly like that it's just the instinctive from myself and you know and he hasn't he's really not lived up to the hype as he I mean so I mean Spurs have been all over the place anyway as it goes but I mean Dominic's lanky I think has been considered 60 million I think they paid for him wasn't there they've been he's been particularly poor for that amount of money I would argue
00:09:06
Josh D
Yeah.
00:09:16
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:22
Josh D
Yeah, 60 million, he was quite high.
00:09:28
Josh D
To tell you the truth, I think he's done a lot better than I thought he would do. And ah that's not a compliment to him. you know It's not a compliment to him. I had no expectations whatsoever.
00:09:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
not a compliment to Spurs, is it now, Josh?
00:09:39
Josh D
No, that's not true. I thought he would get no goals. He's got like a couple goals. I mean, he's got, yeah, like habits.
00:09:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's managed one or two in the air. I'm not gonna let you get to me, Josh. I'm not gonna let you get to me like that. He's got more than Trossard, that's for sure.
00:10:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
but um But this is where I wanted to bring Noah in. I couldn't actually get Noah's file. It corrupted for some reason. But do you remember what he said was the most impactful signing? I think this is the worst take, arguably, in the entire predictions that we did.
00:10:18
Josh D
He said something really, really stupid. I don't know who it was, but it was something I really disagreed with.
00:10:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
He said this was the best re-signing in football ever. He said, Ilkay Gundawan.
00:10:32
Josh D
Oh, OK. It's not that stupid, but well, no, no.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not worked out.
00:10:36
Josh D
Yeah. um No, it yeah is.
00:10:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Hindsight is a beautiful thing. At the time, I kind of agreed with them. I was like, oh, Gundawan coming back. That's a good shout.
00:10:45
Josh D
Yeah, Yeah.
00:10:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, I mean, it's just laughable, quite frankly.
00:10:50
Josh D
yeah is is
00:10:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think you won those two, Josh. I think you comfortably won
Relegation Predictions Revisited
00:10:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
those two. In which case, I'm going to take a quick break. We're going to hear from Zencaster. I'm going to salve my wounds. And when we come back, we're going to look at our relegation selections. Oh, God. And the player to watch as well. So we'll be back just after this message from Zencaster.
00:11:16
Josh D
Yeah, it is.
00:11:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
and welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. It is Tuesday and we're looking back at our early season predictions. We've talked about the manager and the signing of the season, who we thought it was gonna be. It's fair to say Josh is winning currently in this argument. the The Duncan is surely superior at the moment. However, it's time to look at relegation predictions. Now, I'm not gonna play the clip because it would take 10 minutes to listen to all of us giving our relegation thoughts. You remember what you put for yours.
00:12:14
Josh D
I think I put It Switch Southampton and I think I put Everton.
00:12:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
You did put Everton, yes.
00:12:21
Josh D
Yeah, I think I did.
00:12:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was one of the few things me and you agreed on, and at the start of the season, because it was just after that 3-0 victory, right at the start of the season, when I think it was Brighton beating them at Goodison Park.
00:12:25
Josh D
Yeah.
00:12:28
Josh D
Yeah.
00:12:32
Josh D
Yeah.
00:12:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
but they They smacked them. I mean, I just don't see where they're going to get the goals. I definitely didn't at the time. Do you think that's still a big problem for them, Everton, like their inspiration going forward?
00:12:44
Josh D
um I think it's got just a enough to stay up. I think because Southampton are so poor and it switched. I don't know. issues were doing They're doing better than I thought they would be doing, you know.
00:12:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, they've put a few results together, haven't they, Ipswich?
00:12:57
Josh D
They're fighting chance there. So if I were to... Yeah, yeah, they have.
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:02
Josh D
I lived with one big team. so Well, Tottenham's not really a big team, but, you know.
00:13:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rightly so, sir, rightly so. I mean, I think, honestly, at the moment, Leicester look more likely to be dropping the Ipswich on just current form and how the team seems to be shaping up.
00:13:17
Josh D
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
They just look all over the place. I mean, you, Esmond, and Jamie all agreed that Southampton were gonna go down. Jamie didn't think Ipswich were gonna go down. He thought Wolves would, which we all thought was a ridiculous shout. Not bad, actually, in terms of how the seasons panned out.
00:13:37
Josh D
Yeah, you know, is it their games they've been a bit unlucky with some of their games. I've watched some of their games and, you know, they've they've they've been like gar was was there um Gary O'Neal when he got sacked, before he got sacked.
00:13:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:13:47
Josh D
ah he He had them paying a little bit. They just couldn't defend. That was the problem. this could at Most teams in the Premier League couldn't defend.
00:13:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:53
Josh D
um but But I think they'll be all right.
00:13:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it's made the prem more interesting.
00:14:00
Josh D
I think they've got more than enough to to stay up.
00:14:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, ah I mean, when you look at the quality they have, especially going forward, like they they're terrifying, and they're attacking frontline is incredibly good.
00:14:07
Josh D
Yeah.
00:14:10
Josh D
Yeah.
00:14:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's that definitely should be enough. that's where I think Everton are lacking with that but they're probably more solid at the back Everton I mean they frustrated teams they frustrated us this season so Everton likely to pick up points that way wolves likely to get wins with their front three I'd say um the only person who didn't put Southampton going down was me
00:14:20
Josh D
Yeah.
00:14:32
Josh D
Don't know why.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can tell you exactly why. It's because I commentated their first game of the season. It was the Newcastle one where they were down to 10 men and Newcastle were down to 10 men and Southampton still lost. But I thought I saw something in them. I thought I saw some really good attacking flair. I always liked Adam him Armstrong on FIFA. I was like, he's rapid, he'll get goals. They currently have six points, Josh.
00:15:00
Josh D
Yeah, it's, it's, I, you know, Ramster. Yeah. I don't know why he went to Southampton. He's just ruined his career. You know?
00:15:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
He really kind of has, hasn't he?
00:15:07
Josh D
Yeah. He's just.
00:15:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's not looked good. I know the defence in front of him has been shocking.
00:15:12
Josh D
Yeah.
00:15:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, I mean, would you, if you were like a mid-table club, would you look at him now, Ramsdale, after this season?
00:15:20
Josh D
Um, I mean, if you're going to have to, if it happens to get really good and there's a discount price there, then, you know, and you need a keeper, then yeah, I probably would, but that's the reason why.
00:15:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I he might be willing to come back as our second keeper now after this chastening season. You never know. chair
00:15:36
Josh D
ah die
00:15:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
um The other shout that I made in the relegation one, you almost made this shout, but you backed out at the last minute.
Noteworthy Performances and Predictions
00:15:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I said Forrest were going down.
00:15:50
Josh D
Yeah, I almost did I almost did put that in there why we were so wrong
00:15:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I mean, let's be honest, at the start of the season, their squad didn't look that great. They hadn't made huge improvements. I mean, Nuno's not a manager that you'd scream a shout about necessarily, is he?
00:16:05
Josh D
I disagree with him, you know, I think the Tottenham, I think Tottenham were a bit too quick to get rid of him. And remember our walls, he had them playing brilliant football, you know, we can't forget that spell.
00:16:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he was there, wasn't he?
00:16:15
Josh D
Yeah, you can't forget that. So I think we kind of, he was a bit of, he's probably the dark horse of all manager, of like all the managers that we were thinking about. We didn't really, really think about him, you know, and, you know, Pat's often done a too tremendous job at Forest.
00:16:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you can't really take it away from him. Ultimately, like he's but he's been really good. And being a third at the moment, no one would have put money on them being in the top, probably in the top half, let alone third.
00:16:31
Josh D
Yeah. Amazing. No, no.
00:16:37
Josh D
Yeah.
00:16:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
So they are massively outperforming expectations.
00:16:39
Josh D
Yeah.
00:16:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I'd say, I mean, Esman said, Ipswich, Southampton, Leicester, like he's won that one because they realistically are the teams who are probably going to be going down.
00:16:45
Josh D
Yeah. yes Yeah.
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Next up was the player to watch. um You've already mentioned your choice. You did choose Neto as your player to watch.
00:16:53
Josh D
Yeah.
00:16:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
There were some other interesting ones. Jamie had a good one. um I might have, again, made a mistake. I don't think I had a very good day, Josh. let them Let's listen in and see what we all said.
00:18:41
Josh D
Wow. oh and
00:18:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah i listened back to that on the bus coming over for work today i was just like oh no what have i done
00:18:48
Josh D
hey
00:18:53
Josh D
They're not so bad about it, is there? What's so bad about it? Is when you said, oh, I think you're going to hit pushing 20. And I was just like, what? That's what made me laugh. I was like, even when he's good for me, not hitting that in those numbers.
00:19:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
i but i just thought i think i I think I was kind of a bit like Jamie with a Murray Hutchings, because let's be honest, he picked him because he's an ex gunner. And you know, he's ah he's a young guy coming through.
00:19:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, you know, I want him to do so well.
00:19:17
Josh D
Yeah.
00:19:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I was like, your score 20 will be fine. I'm gonna think this into happening. but it was the most stupid call well actually it wasn't the most stupid call we all know where that one was but that's coming up towards the end of the episode so you you made sort of a bit of a nod when Esman said timber earlier on hmm
00:19:24
Josh D
Yeah.
00:19:36
Josh D
I mean, from ah from but but from our selections, yeah, he probably wins it out. Timbar, again, was it was yeah know he's been solid, even though there's certain games where he's not been picked, but every time he has come on the team, apart from when he plays left-back.
00:19:49
Josh D
Even when he plays left-back. I know Jamie hates him playing left-back, but I don't think he's terrible there.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:54
Josh D
He's better than Denton Cenko, anyway. So, um yeah, he does a job.
00:19:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
He does a job, doesn't he? A left back.
00:19:58
Josh D
he does You could tell on the right side he's more natural to that to that side. Obviously, he's right-footed.
00:20:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:02
Josh D
But, um yeah, i think he I think Edward wins that one by far.
00:20:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you know what's interesting about what you just said there? When we were speaking in our Predictions podcast, you didn't even think he was a starter for Arsenal.
00:20:16
Josh D
Did I?
00:20:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you were like, I'm not convinced that he's a nailed on starter.
00:20:21
Josh D
ah I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I said that.
00:20:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Admittedly, there's been a lot of injuries and we've seen more of him because of those injuries. So we hadn't seen much of him the season before.
00:20:30
Josh D
yeah i well i don't know because i'm i've always been a timber fan i'm probably just thinking that because i didn't think well on the left side i think you probably go quite furry he probably starts ahead of him on the right side i think ben white starts so that's probably why he doesn't yeah yeah yeah
00:20:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly. And Ben White was fit at the time. So I do understand why he said it. I just wanted to just, you know, drop that one in there. So it doesn't just look like I'm a menace. We're going to take a quick break here from the Global Sports Podcast Network. When we come back, we're going to have a look at the top goal scorer prediction. And then we're going to have a look at the champions. So we'll be back just after this message.
Top Goal Scorer Predictions
00:21:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back to this third and final part of the Daily Arsenal podcast where we are reviewing our season predictions. We've had a look at a lot. Josh has been proven fairly smart in this one and I have not have been made to look like a bald-headed buffoon.
00:21:55
Josh D
Yeah.
00:22:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I'm just going to rip the plaster off right now. Josh, I think you know what's coming.
00:22:04
Josh D
that The champions won. You will win the league.
00:22:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh no, much worse than that. This is everybody's predictions for the Premier League top goal scorer.
00:22:09
Josh D
Oh, ah we put the same the thing.
00:22:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Here we go.
00:23:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
There are technical issues. The podcast can no longer continue. I can't believe it. I still can't believe it. What was I thinking?
00:23:49
Josh D
was you drunk that day or something me like what what's going on you know what yeah if you said player to watch i might i might give you that one but top goal score you're you're asking for a miracle
00:23:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think I spoke to my dad and I let him convince me that Nunes was gonna come good. And I thought I'm gonna be a bit different here. And I'm gonna look at Slott's tactics and be like, yeah, Nunes suits that down to the ground.
00:24:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
my god i was so wrong josh i'm an arsenal fan i'm always asking for a miracle it's what we do i mean your your choice was pretty much bang on what was it sort of like was it the fact that you had quite a bit of confidence in slot which gave you the salad shout
00:24:26
Josh D
wow
00:24:37
Josh D
wow yeah yeah because again i've been watching loads of their preseason games and i'm just like this guy let's have a bath so that he looks sharp and i was thinking if he can stay fit he probably would be out there.
00:24:48
Josh D
But in my head, I was thinking probably Harland, because Harland, you know, again, he's a gold, well, he was a gold machine. know um Yeah, you you you I think that he would book his favorites to probably win the golden boot.
00:24:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's it's hard to bet against him in there.
00:24:59
Josh D
And since, yeah, yeah, well, you know, maybe he should listen to his own advice and stay humble, you know?
Top Six Analysis and Surprises
00:25:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
um ah I don't think that can ever leave him for Stay Humble, Sharp.
00:25:11
Josh D
No.
00:25:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah By the way, I've just checked. Darwin Ines has scored two Premier League goals.
00:25:16
Josh D
Oh, wow. Is that it? To be fair, it doesn't start, though. It doesn't start.
00:25:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, he doesn't start. and And it looks like he'll be leaving as well soon. So my prediction is even further up the window now.
00:25:27
Josh D
We could use him. We could use anybody.
00:25:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Actually, yeah, it's true. Someone who can put the ball in the back of the net. Would you start him over Haverts?
00:25:35
Josh D
Ooh.
00:25:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ooh, that's a question.
00:25:38
Josh D
No, because hav...
00:25:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nunez or Haverts?
00:25:39
Josh D
No, I'll go hav it, because hav it somehow gets a goal.
00:25:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:25:42
Josh D
I don't know how. yeah
00:25:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Haverts kind of trips it into the goal, doesn't he?
00:25:47
Josh D
yeah yeah Yeah, and it' it's better than not scoring, so, you know.
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
He sort of fumbles it in.
00:25:52
Josh D
good
00:25:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is very true. ah The last thing that we really did was who we thought the top six were gonna be. um Me and you were the only ones who thought City were going to win the league.
00:26:05
Josh D
Really?
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Esman and Jamie both said Arsenal. They both thought Arsenal were going to win it. um None of us right on that front, realistically, with the way it's looking. um Obviously, none of us had Forest in our top six.
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
me I had Spurs in fourth.
00:26:24
Josh D
I had my United in fourth, didn't I?
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
You had Manny and I in a fourth. You said you don't think they're gonna be there, but they need to be if Ten Harg wants to keep his job.
00:26:31
Josh D
Yeah. I was riding away.
00:26:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
the You are the true soothsayer of the Daily Arsenal podcast, aren't you, Josh Duncan? It's just sort of like, they're not gonna, they need to finish fourth, but Ten Harg will go before this happens.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe that's the way to do like predictions from now and just say, I don't think this is what's going to happen. They need to do this.
00:26:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because then you're covered, isn't it?
00:26:55
Josh D
Yeah.
00:26:56
Josh D
Yeah, I don't want to commit to anything, you know.
00:26:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:59
Josh D
I'm not losing.
00:27:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
I we all had Liverpool in third, which I think at the start of the season, you definitely but it made perfect sense, didn't it?
00:27:08
Josh D
Yeah, I didn't think... I thought they would still drop points here and there, you know. i mean know and And this season, they've been a bit lucky. At a certain game, they should have dropped points. so um But yeah, if Fair played the slot, he's really doing his thing. and a live woman
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
He really is your choice for manager to keep an eye on. Manager to keep an eye on. Man United is going to have a struggle. God, you've been all over it. You've been all over it, Josh. Realistically, there weren't actually many shocking additions in the champions.
00:27:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Esmond thought Newcastle might finish fourth, which, you know, was sort of understandable.
00:27:41
Josh D
Okay, they're out there. They're out there.
00:27:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jamie had Villa in fifth. Again, you can kind of guess it.
00:27:48
Josh D
Yeah.
00:27:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's just the unbelievable drop off of Spurs and Manu and obviously Man City as well. But that, I mean, Man City is still sick. Like they're not, they're not languishing at the bottom, but Manu and Spurs, how long has Lopategi, not Lopategi, how long has Ange got realistically, Josh?
00:28:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like.
00:28:08
Josh D
Maybe two more games.
00:28:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:28:10
Josh D
I was surprised that you know this weekend he wasn't sacked. Yeah, played two more games.
00:28:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you can't like, because the Spurs, Spurs fans, for some reason, they think they're entitled to victories, which I mean, yeah, we know full well, they're absolutely not.
00:28:25
Josh D
Yeah.
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that the next prem game, I mean, the next prem game is us at the Emirates.
00:28:30
Josh D
Yeah, oof.
00:28:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then, oh, Everton away.
00:28:36
Josh D
TK loses his job. By the time this is probably, a you know, in its couple of weeks, we're probably talking about how Andrew lost his job.
00:28:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'd be amazed if he sees out January, because what Liverpool in the League Cup semis, Tamworth Roebas in the FA Cup come on Tamworth. I know I know my 20 quid that week's going on. Then us then Everton Hoffenheim, Leicester and then Ellsberg.
00:29:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
No idea who else, I'll be honest. A banter league team, I imagine. But yeah, that's it. that was Those were our predictions. I mean, I definitely think that you and Esman came out best on that one. ah jamie Jamie had some solid shouts. He had some out there ones. I am never making a prediction again. I don't think it's sensible for myself or for the podcast, quite frankly, because we need to have some sort of credibility
00:29:30
Josh D
Yeah.
00:29:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, disaster, absolute disaster. Do you think, so now, looking forward, I mean, Liverpool, ah you do you reckon
Squad Depth Concerns
00:29:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
they're gonna do it? Or do you think Arsenal can come back?
00:29:43
Josh D
No, I think Arsenal. I think Saturday showed that, again, we've got a quite a thin squad. um We don't pick up points and we need to pick up points. And it's crucial because, again, Liverpool drop points there. And we probably won't buy in January. you know I know we linked to a few players, but we probably won't buy in January. But it's kind of crazy.
Chelsea's Ambitions and Challenges
00:30:03
Josh D
No one no one put Chelsea in the top four, did they?
00:30:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I had them 11th.
00:30:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I did a whole 20 and I had them 11th. I thought they were gonna have a disaster. Because they, Mareska's done something quite impressive there, hasn't he, in the first 20 games?
00:30:08
Josh D
Wow.
00:30:17
Josh D
Um, I would say so, but I was talking to my cousin and he was just like, well, no, they, they shouldn't because they spent all this money. They should be at least playing in the top four.
00:30:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
that Yeah, was it a billion pounds spent on their squads in like a year and a half?
00:30:30
Josh D
Yeah. It's just like, why are people shocked about it? Like if you spent a billion, but I've asked for a billion pounds, we should be winning the title. Like this hands down.
00:30:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Ashley, do you know what? That's a really good point.
00:30:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think because, because they were just such a shambles beforehand, everyone kind of wrote them off.
00:30:41
Josh D
Yeah, it is.
00:30:45
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just like, oh, they're just a chaos club. They got too many players and they don't know how to put them together.
00:30:50
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But you're right. A billion quid should win the league.
00:30:52
Josh D
yeah yeah yeah ah the you know is I think the new owners in they they had they didn't get the people the right people in the right places and they just made too many changes too quickly.
00:30:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's what Citi did 15 years ago. They split a few hundred million and smashed the league out. How have they got it so wrong?
00:31:11
Josh D
And everyone knows when a manager comes in, whether it's like you're working in the real world or in football world, you come in or new owners come in and you make too many changes, it doesn't really work out for you.
00:31:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I mean, Thomas Tuchel couldn't keep giving Todd Bowley lessons on the offside rule.
00:31:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
I still remember that. Wasn't it like ah the story was that he was, Todd Bowley was texting Thomas Tuchel for football lessons or something like that. It's like, he's your head coach.
00:31:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is not his job.
00:31:39
Josh D
Yeah, yeah, just I don't know what I think Americans and their owners and their managers have a really close connection
Cultural Management Differences
00:31:45
Josh D
where they spend a lot of time.
00:31:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:47
Josh D
So I think you're trying to do that. But it's not like that, you know, in in in Britain.
00:31:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:31:51
Josh D
It's just they don't really stay calm to come to games here and there. But that's why they get on with it.
00:31:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. We don't talk to each other in Britain.
00:31:58
Josh D
Yeah.
00:31:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
We politely nod at each other. And we definitely don't talk to our managers or our bosses. It's just a little bit of a shy, yes, hello.
00:32:06
Josh D
Yeah, you're right.
00:32:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we move on.
00:32:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:32:08
Josh D
Don't be fired yet.
Conclusion and Future Teasers
00:32:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Still got a job? Hey, cool. I'll be off. That's it for today's podcast. We hope you enjoyed. Well done, Josh. I mean, you are the soothsayer.
00:32:18
Josh D
Oh, cheers mate.
00:32:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
You are the knowledge supreme of the Daily Arsenal podcast.
00:32:24
Josh D
I'll take it.
00:32:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to go bury my head in the sand. And ah we'll be back with you tomorrow for a Wild Card Wednesday episode. where myself and Josh will be looking at a lot of the transfer rumors that are going around, including some of the weirdest ones that I've seen. and I've seen an incredible one that I cannot wait to talk to you about. So we'll be doing that tomorrow. Thank you very much for listening. I've been Josh Vince, he's been Josh Duncan. We'll be with you tomorrow. Until then, goodbye.