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S1-E80 : Wilcard Wednesday! The What could've beens...
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We're back with another episode, and today the boys are looking back at all the players who burst through the Arsenal youth stages and didn't quite make it. For some it's a fond look back, for others... well we discuss them at least!
Host : Josh Vince
Guests : Joshua Duncan, Jamie Patterson, Craig Matthews
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Introduction of Hosts
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast, brought to you as part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. It's Wednesday, which means it's wildcard time. I am your host, Josh Vince, and joining me today, I have a plethora of talent filling out the Arsenal squad. It is Jamie Patterson, Craig Matthews, and he's back. It's Joshua Duncan! Josh, it's good to see you, buddy. It's good to have you back, man. How have
Young Players with Unfulfilled Potential
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you been? A chaos December, I imagine, coming your way.
00:00:38
Josh D
yeah Yeah, I've been alright, you know, I'm just busy with personal life and myself, but, you know, I'm happy with the two awesome wins, you know, so I'm about to end the moment.
00:00:46
Jamie
yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
It's been real good recently. ah we We are recording this pre-December, but when this comes to you, it's going to be the 11th of December, which means technically two weeks to Christmas. So we thought being the festive season, a lot of festive season is about celebrating those who are with us and those who are around us, but also remembering those who came before.
00:01:07
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those who are no longer with us. And from an arsenal perspective, we see that as the youth who didn't quite make it through our ranks. So we are going to be looking at the players who could have been the youth stars, who shot onto the scene, did a Micah Richards, but didn't quite land on their feet. A little bit like Micah Richards, again. So the first name that I want to throw to you lads, and I want to get just an immediate reaction. Craig, we'll start with your immediate reaction when you hear this name. It was...
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a very fast, wide player, had a lot of potential. Mr. Joel Campbell. Does that know?
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Josh D
good
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, it's good to have you back, Josh, the first thing you did.
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Joel Campbell, youngster when he came to us. He was 22 when he came in 2011. We paid 750,000 euros for the young man. He made 23 appearances, three goals, two assists. Do you remember much of Joel back in the day, Craig?
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Craig matthews
I remember it was quite young. He played in the youth tournament for Costa Rica.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:02:11
Craig matthews
I think they also liked him from then. I thought he would be the next best friend. I thought he was going to be the next best friend as well. He does not talk about him going to different clubs and they also snapped him off. I thought he would have done well for us.
00:02:23
Craig matthews
He went on so many loans as well. They could remember the work permit issues. because I've learned there's so many teams and he's finally got his chance.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:02:31
Craig matthews
I thought he was going to kick on but it didn't work out for him so that's what I'm going to eat.
00:02:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you're right. A lot of teams are in for a man. We got a bargain price at 750 grand. I mean, Josh, that laugh was clearly a laugh of admiration for the man.
00:02:45
Josh D
I mean, you know it is, yeah. you It was all right. I remember he went to the World Cup. I think it was 2010.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
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Josh D
I think he scored that free goal. He had an amazing World Cup. And then we fought, what I fought, now it's time to kick on it. He was getting a bit of gains, but it just didn't work out for him.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
No, it did it didn't really. He was one of those profiles. is He was a big lad. like there was There was some timber to him, but he was he was rapid as well.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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ja Jamie, do you look at him him fondly?
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Jamie
I remember him fondly, yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Sure, your face doesn't suggest you do.
00:03:17
Jamie
No, remembering fondly, you know, as the guy said, he was, you know, I think during that World Cup, we were like, wow, like, you know, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what he produces.
00:03:28
Jamie
And yeah, just fortunately, we were just kind of sold dreams, real weren't we, really?
00:03:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
We were a little bit. We did manage to get a fee for him though. We sold him for one and a half million euros. Euros, by the way, because transfer market is all I had today.
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Josh D
Is that it?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
One and a half mil, yeah.
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Jamie
um
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he was at the he was like He was at the club for seven years.
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Josh D
and He better not, he better not.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Craig matthews
you
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He was there from 2011 to 2018.
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Jamie
Where, where did he go again?
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Josh D
Wow, that 2018 was there.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
2018 he was still there yeah man he was still there um i'll just get up where we sold him too but he's 32 now directly still playing or he's retired he is still playing four i've got a ah forgive me my pronunciation to any brazilian listeners out there adletico janiense janiense yeah sod it that'll do they are 20th in the brazilian league currently
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Josh D
I thought, oh wow, wow.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Craig matthews
Still playing.
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Josh D
I think he's still playing, yeah, I think he's still playing, yeah.
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Jamie
but ah
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Craig matthews
Still playing.
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Jamie
oh
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Josh D
Oh, wow.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
it's it's It's not going great for him at the moment.
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Jamie
Oh.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, he's on loan. He scored two goals for them. And we sold him to Frosinone.
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Josh D
Who?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Frosinone, they are, yes, they are an Italian team.
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Jamie
Is that an Italian team?
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Jamie
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, good, good knowledge.
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Josh D
What tier are they on?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
That was a, that's a very good question. They're definitely not top tier.
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Jamie
I believe that probably the I probably assume that they're the tier below Serie A.
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ah
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Josh D
Yeah, it's testing tier. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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theer bit yeah thesery b yeah They were in C until 2014 and then dropped back down straight away again.
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Craig matthews
Her third B, F, M, C, I was saying. Third C, third B.
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Jamie
I was thinking Siri B.
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Craig matthews
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
so so So he didn't come along at the best of time, but that was that was Joel Campbell's journey there. um The next name that I have, this is one that I kind of ah stumbled across in an article.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I just want to see if anybody remembers this name, sort of gut reaction.
Gideon Zelalem: FIFA Fame vs Reality
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Gedion Zelalem.
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Craig matthews
The American kid.
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Jamie
Oh my gosh.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Craig matthews
The American kid.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Craig matthews
The American kid.
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I'll be honest, a lot of these players, my memory of them is more from playing FIFA and having them like shoot up in the ratings and like, you know, growing young talent.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Jamie
ah Yeah.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
And Gideon, I remember, was one of those really, really irritating ones who just would not improve at all.
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Josh D
yeah yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
To be fair, in terms of actual Arsenal memories, I'd be surprised if any of us remember him playing for us. He played 13 games for Arsenal.
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Craig matthews
I remember, I will be playing for us.
00:05:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it was it was an he was a decent looking lad, but and in the sense of footballing, I'm not one to comment on his attractiveness or anything like that, but he wasless and it looked it looked good with the ball at his feet.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what I'll say. And um yeah, of course, mate.
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Jamie
like Can I just ask Josh, does your Mrs tend to listen to these podcasts by any chance?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
She does, yeah, she listens to every single one.
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Josh D
ah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I've got a fun chat coming my way in mid-December.
00:06:20
Jamie
Uh oh.
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Josh D
ah good
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Jamie
and ba Could be in the doghouse.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
but It's fine, we'll have just come back from Copenhagen. I'll be in the good races at that point.
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Jamie
but
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Josh D
yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
um We had him for five years and he went to Kansas.
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Josh D
That's in the middle, I'd say.
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How much do you reckon we got for him?
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Jamie
I was going to set about 750k.
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Craig matthews
and
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Craig matthews
under under milk
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Global Sports Podcast Network
100 mil was that?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
under ah Sorry, I i heard 100 there.
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Josh D
he said how you go
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Global Sports Podcast Network
um we We got nothing. Nothing. He went on a free to Kansas um Now the next one we're gonna quickly throw in and I know that Josh likes his players He's mentioned him in the podcast before he was 20 when he came to us I couldn't actually find a price that we got him for which is quite interesting It is the one the only Rio miaichi
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Jamie
but
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Josh D
Please, it hardly works on this video.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
super
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Josh D
Oh man, what can I say? But this guy was the biggest prospect that we had for a while. And he was quick as well.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He was rapid.
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Josh D
And he was meant to be the next thing that's gonna, he was meant to be our second, basically.
00:07:27
Jamie
Rapids, yeah.
00:07:30
Josh D
That's what I was trying to say now. And it just never worked out. It just never happened. in He never just, he never looked like he was gonna stop. He never looked like he was gonna stop.
00:07:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I mean, he, he had, he had the pace, but apart from that, like his technique wasn't there. His end product didn't seem to be there and he just wasn't developing under a side though.
00:07:45
Josh D
Yeah.
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Jamie
No.
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Josh D
yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I remember vaguely.
00:07:49
Josh D
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Um, does anybody have any idea of how many games he played for Arsenal?
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Josh D
I'm gonna say five.
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Jamie
About, I was going to say about eight.
00:07:58
Craig matthews
Six.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
So I only got the Premier League ones. Premier League starts. One.
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Josh D
One.
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Craig matthews
One.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Craig matthews
Wow.
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One.
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One. In four years.
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Josh D
Wow.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
In four years.
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Josh D
But he wasn't good enough. To say he wasn't good enough.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He wasn't good enough.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He weren't good enough.
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Josh D
yeah
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Jamie
Goodness me.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
And it was a sub-appearance as well. It was even a star.
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Jamie
Wow.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Bless him.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
and um in
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Josh D
What will, will he come around and get what I'm coming for?
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Jamie
This guy, this guy was basically a arsenal just to soak up the wages.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah, I mean, if you can get away with it, then bloomin' hell, go for it. I mean, Gareth Bale wouldn't... No, actually, who's who's the the best soaker-upper of wages? Phil Jones?
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Craig matthews
Mm.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Phil Jones had the best life I could imagine.
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Jamie
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He was on Hunt...
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Josh D
I was gonna say if the citykeeper, what's his name again?
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Craig matthews
Carson, Austin, Austin, Austin.
00:08:43
Josh D
Ah, fair choice.
00:08:43
Jamie
Oh, Scott Carson.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Scott Castle!
00:08:46
Josh D
Yeah, Scott Carson, yeah. Scott Carson.
00:08:48
Jamie
Oh my gosh, yeah, good show.
00:08:49
Josh D
I don't think he ever played.
00:08:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a pretty cushy life, isn't it, really?
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Josh D
And I'm pretty sure he's won a few medals as well.
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Jamie
Champions League in that mix as well, I believe.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
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Josh D
I think so, yeah, yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, for sure. Well, um he's still playing football, Josh. He's now playing at Yokohama Maranos at 33 years old and has won a title.
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Jamie
Yeah.
00:09:08
Josh D
He's very free.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
He's 33.
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Josh D
Wow, ah yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's 33 now.
00:09:12
Jamie
Oh my gosh, he's won
Henri Lansbury's Journey
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Jamie
more than Kane.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
At any age, she has one more than Harry Kane.
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Jamie
yeah
00:09:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is very true. And we so we we let him go on a free to St. Paulie, and I think that was only fair for the kid. Right, that's the first three. When we come back, I've got another three, and two of these in particular i have real, real amusing memories of.
00:09:33
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So we'll be back just after this message from Zencaster.
00:10:07
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All right, welcome back to the second part of this Wild Card Wednesday on the Daily Arsenal Podcast. This next player, I do remember again, mostly from FIFA, but he had a bit of a career after Arsenal. He's one of the youngsters who, let's be honest, it wasn't particularly difficult to do better than the three that came before, but he certainly did. The name I'm about to mention, gentlemen, is Henri Lansbury.
00:10:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Lansbury?
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Josh D
but
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Josh D
I fashioned the past way.
00:10:36
Jamie
wow this is yeah this is really bringing me back to fee for now wow yeah
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah, 100%. 2008 he was in the Youth Academy. So we didn't pay anything for him.
00:10:44
Craig matthews
Hello.
00:10:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you know, he's had an alright career.
00:10:49
Josh D
Yes.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not been bad. You know who we sold him to. Craig, do you remember?
00:10:54
Craig matthews
ah think it was not in a forest
00:10:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was not an in forest, yes.
00:10:56
Josh D
Yeah.
00:10:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
And um not for the most that we've seen so far, 1.25 mil. So ah Joel Campbell, more expensive of a sale than Emery Lansbury, who's gone on to play a lot more English football.
00:11:11
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But the next one in particular is is a cult hero, a cult figure.
Emmanuel Frimpong's Arsenal Career
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Emmanuelle Frimpong.
00:11:20
Craig matthews
I think it was not in a forest. Dance.
00:11:20
Josh D
god
00:11:22
Craig matthews
ha
00:11:22
Jamie
while Yeah.
00:11:23
Josh D
a string form
00:11:25
Craig matthews
<unk> I remember, I remember his debut. He came off. He came off the bench.
00:11:37
Craig matthews
I mean, he got two yellow cards. He booted one player off and he got Liverpool. He booted the player up in the air and he got sent off.
00:11:42
Craig matthews
I remember that game. It was raining as well.
00:11:42
Josh D
yeah
00:11:44
Josh D
Oh, god.
00:11:45
Craig matthews
I mean, it was for the goal. We lost it again. 2-1. And he got sent off. I just remember him booting the player in the air. That's all I remember.
00:11:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
He certainly had a um ah volatile nature. that's the That's for sure, yeah. I mean, Jamie, do you remember much of the friend pong?
00:12:05
Jamie
Nah, apart from the fact that nowadays everyone thinks that Frimmy, the guy that runs my arsenal social channels, is Emmanuel Fringpong, which is complete fault,
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Global Sports Podcast Network
It was...
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Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh my god, seriously?
00:12:17
Jamie
There are people in the fan base that think that Frimmy, the guy that literally runs Arsenal's social media accounts, is a manual Frimprong. And I'm like, no, you're definitely getting the two mixed up there.
00:12:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, if he has, then he is in the nicest way for me. Let himself go since giving up the game.
00:12:35
Josh D
but
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Craig matthews
this is
00:12:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
but We love, we love Frimmy here, but my word, like going from a professional football there.
00:12:38
Jamie
Of course.
00:12:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, here's an interesting question for you. When we're talking about Emmanuel Frimpong, does anybody know the Arsenal player who he had a scrap with in the tunnel?
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Craig matthews
That's right.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Nasvery, Craig's bang on it.
00:12:55
Jamie
wow oh my gosh wow
00:12:55
Josh D
and is
00:12:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes. ah yeah Yeah, we lost to Man City in the League Cup quarterfinals and they had a massive scrap in the tunnel. um It was as they walked off and then carried it on in the tunnel and they were both disciplined and he was then very quickly sent out on loan. Oddly enough to Wolves. So he didn't last much longer after that. I mean, he was with us. Jesus, he was with us for six years.
00:13:24
Josh D
Yeah, he was there for a while. there I remember this one game, he played all right, and then we thought he might kick on, but this never happened.
00:13:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
No, he went for 250k. Any idea who he went to? When I saw this, I was quite genuinely surprised.
00:13:39
Craig matthews
What was it? Was it a Russian team?
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
It wasn't, no, it was a team in the England.
00:13:49
Craig matthews
Was it on Tarleton?
00:13:50
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No.
00:13:51
Jamie
I would, you know, what I was about, I also was always thinking Charlton.
00:13:51
Josh D
It was the lead one team, isn't it?
00:13:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a League One team, yeah.
00:13:55
Josh D
Yeah, I can't remember who it was.
00:13:56
Jamie
MK Dons.
00:13:57
Josh D
I can't remember.
00:13:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, it was Barnsley.
00:14:02
Josh D
That's it, Barnes and Yeah,
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he went
00:14:02
Jamie
Wow.
Abou Diaby: Talent vs Injuries
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Josh D
that's it.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
it went to barsley in twenty fourteen he went to grand which is a bit of a fall from grace after that like you have a scrap with Sami Nasri and that's where you end up it's a rough ride for him um the next player and the last one in this section is a player who i really actually respect and
00:14:03
Josh D
Yeah, I remember seeing it in I remember seeing it in FIFA, yeah.
00:14:04
Jamie
Wow.
00:14:05
Craig matthews
very
00:14:10
Jamie
Wow.
00:14:11
Craig matthews
Hmm.
00:14:16
Jamie
Yep.
00:14:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a bit harsh, I think, to say that he didn't really hit the heights, but his career was really dampened by problems. That is Abu Di Abbey.
00:14:35
Jamie
Oh.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Abu Di Abbey.
00:14:36
Josh D
and
00:14:37
Craig matthews
I love that game, man. I thought it was a fun game, man.
00:14:38
Josh D
yeah yeah i do
00:14:40
Craig matthews
I love that game, man. I thought, I think, if he had had injuries, injuries, I feel that injury against Sondra that finished his career, man, the one that Dan Smith nice broke his ankle.
00:14:47
Jamie
Yeah.
00:14:49
Craig matthews
It was 2006, like there. I feel he never broke his ankle. He ended up being up there, that one. I still think he's up there as one of the top players for last. I think when he came back from injury, when he played, he made us him better.
00:15:03
Craig matthews
He never made us him worse. I remember he scored a good goal against Liverpool and Champions League.
00:15:04
Josh D
Yeah, yeah, I do too.
00:15:07
Craig matthews
And he's got, he dominated, over one game he dominated, left, right, certain, all over the place, couldn't get off, couldn't go, couldn't go near him. So there was a spot, there was a top player in there, and that's what he did as well.
00:15:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
eat He was brilliant back in his, I think, I don't know about you, Jamie, but when I think about Abu Dhabi and the players that we've heard so far, and you know, let's be honest, a lot of them were just youth prospects who didn't get enough game time.
00:15:21
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:15:32
Jamie
Yeah.
00:15:33
Josh D
Yeah.
00:15:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Abu Dhabi is the one player so far that we've mentioned, who I think had genuine potential to be up there with some of the best midfielders in the world.
00:15:44
Jamie
Yeah, absolutely agree.
00:15:44
Craig matthews
and
00:15:45
Jamie
And you know what, going on Craig's point, for me, as soon as DRB springs to mind, it just, it reminded me of that Liverpool game.
00:15:46
Josh D
Yeah.
00:15:53
Jamie
I remember sitting there watching that goal and I just thought, yep, this guy has got potential, providing he stays fit.
00:15:54
Josh D
yeah
00:15:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that was the that was the big problem, wasn't it?
00:16:01
Craig matthews
Hmm.
00:16:01
Josh D
yeah
00:16:04
Craig matthews
Hmm.
00:16:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
And for so many of these players, that was the big problem. I mean, we're gonna going to take another quick break. And when we come back, there's only two players left, unless you guys have any more that you want to throw in at the end. One of them is a player who I loved when he played for us and has actually gone on to do relatively OK.
00:16:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the last one I think is the most obvious contender in this list. So we'll be back just after this message from the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:17:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back to the Danny Arsenal podcast as part of the global sports podcast network. Now, in the last couple of records that I've done with Jamie, he's either screamed about a result that's been happening or something like that. Right now, during that break, he was creasing up. I'm curious to know Jamie, it might have nothing to do with the podcast, but I want to know what's got given you the giggles.
00:17:21
Jamie
Oh my gosh. So my group chat are going crazy about it and I've just seen Spurs being their typical selves, take a lead and then just go and scuff it. Imagine now, they, it's currently, so we're recording on a Thursday night and, oh, okay. My, my laughter's cut short, unfortunately. I thought Roman.
00:17:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought, what? What's happening? then
00:17:46
Jamie
I thought Roma had taken the lead. They were 2-1 up, but VAR had to come in and have their say. So it's one all at the minute.
00:17:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's won all.
00:17:55
Jamie
Yeah.
00:17:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I swear the game's only been going on for 25 minutes.
00:17:58
Jamie
Literally, it is.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's hilarious. I love that. And also United are losing to Bode Glimt.
00:18:04
Jamie
Oh, by the glimpse.
00:18:04
Josh D
oh great that
00:18:05
Jamie
Oh my God. Wow.
00:18:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, this is the evening that just keeps on giving, isn't it?
00:18:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Goodness me. but Right, next player. The player that I loved. Again, a young, rapid, wide man with a beauty of a left foot.
00:18:11
Jamie
It really does.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
He had so much potential and he did okay, I think. This is one, Carlos Vela.
00:18:27
Josh D
Oh,
00:18:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just love it every day that's being thrown out. Josh is just like oh for goodness sake why am I wasting my time here?
00:18:32
Josh D
great. That's it.
00:18:40
Josh D
you know he I really liked him.
00:18:40
Craig matthews
Oh, hmm.
00:18:42
Josh D
At one point I thought he might do something. I only used to come in the Carlin Cup games. Back when it was Carlin Cup. Yeah, he was he was all alright. He would get goals here and he look you looked rapid.
00:18:53
Josh D
you know And just again, he just just's never it's never... And he was from Mexico, he was alright as well.
00:18:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:18:59
Josh D
and it just didn't work It just didn't work out. you know you know i Didn't he go to Villarreal afterwards?
00:19:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah It wasn't Villarell, it was Sociedad.
00:19:07
Josh D
Just associate that.
00:19:08
Jamie
Oh, yeah.
00:19:09
Josh D
Just associate that. Yeah, associate that.
00:19:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And I'll be honest, eat it well there hundred and eightyfour appearances fiftyf four goals but that he did
00:19:14
Josh D
Yeah, I remember going to Cambridge. It wasn't that bad.
00:19:20
Craig matthews
If he were the young Griezmann as well or Antoine Griezmann, I thought he had a good partnership.
00:19:20
Josh D
Yeah.
00:19:20
Jamie
Wow.
00:19:24
Jamie
That's it.
00:19:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did, yeah.
00:19:28
Craig matthews
I feel like he wasn't suited to the Premier League. He was a good player after he also important from a youth tournament. He was top scorer in a youth tournament on the 17th World Cup.
00:19:39
Craig matthews
I think he was also important from that. He scored some good goals for us, but I remember that chip against Sheffield United in the League Cup.
00:19:46
Josh D
Get it.
00:19:47
Jamie
yeah yeah going on to craig's point there i do i think the premier league was a bit much for him and i think la liga the football was a bit more free flowing and i just think again no disrespect to the to the league itself but it's a more relaxed kind of atmosphere you know
00:19:47
Craig matthews
I thought it would kick on, but I think it was better in Spain. It was better when you left Arsenal, I thought, in Spain it was much better.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
It.
00:20:12
Jamie
players players in that league are a bit more skillful, you know, skillful on the ball and I think that just suited Carlos Vela down to the tee.
00:20:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a bit less aggy, isn't it?
00:20:22
Josh D
Yeah, no aggression really there.
00:20:23
Jamie
Yeah.
00:20:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah like yeah and
00:20:24
Josh D
Not like, criminally, you need to be a bit bulky, you know what I mean? You gotta handle your own.
00:20:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah You're not going to get Ryan Shawcross breaking your leg in La Liga.
00:20:31
Jamie
yeah
00:20:31
Josh D
I knew it was all gonna bring it up. I knew it was all gonna bring it up.
00:20:34
Jamie
yeah
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
We haven't talked about that nearly enough in this podcast. We want 81 episodes in. We have not talked about that enough. But, um I mean, Sociedad was not the end for Carlos Vela. In fact, is not the end.
00:20:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
He has been playing in America since 2018 for LAFC, where he scored.
00:20:52
Josh D
Yeah.
00:20:54
Jamie
Yeah.
00:20:55
Josh D
Yeah.
00:20:55
Craig matthews
You want the nectar, you want the nectar, I think.
00:20:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he did. And in 152 appearances, he scored 78. So again, you know, retirement football suits him well.
00:21:03
Jamie
Wow.
00:21:04
Josh D
good Yeah, so football.
00:21:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
but suited
00:21:09
Josh D
Yeah, please skillful.
00:21:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:11
Josh D
Yeah. so
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was always quite an elegant player, I thought. Like, it was it was nice to watch. And he was, in this list, he was our most, um he was our highest return on selling. We sold him for 14 million euros.
00:21:24
Josh D
Oh wow.
00:21:25
Craig matthews
wow wow
00:21:25
Jamie
That's not bad.
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:26
Josh D
That's pretty good back in the day as well to be fair.
00:21:27
Jamie
Yeah.
00:21:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Back in the day, that's good.
00:21:28
Josh D
Yeah.
00:21:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's only 20 million less than Oxlade Chamberlain.
00:21:29
Josh D
Yeah.
00:21:31
Jamie
Hmm.
00:21:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that's, you know. One day we'll top that, but it is not this day. Finally, in this, There's only one player, there's one player you have to mention in a list like this, in youth players who were destined for the the greatest heights and who were scuppered.
Jack Wilshere: The Great Midfield Hope?
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jack Wilshire.
00:21:54
Josh D
yeah
00:21:55
Jamie
Yeah.
00:21:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:56
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:21:56
Josh D
Yeah.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is the saddest that I've ever seen three screens on Zencast are mentioning that man's name. It was, his career Jamie was such a such a frustrating one, wasn't it?
00:22:05
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:22:10
Jamie
It was, it really was, you know, when I when I see him play in the Champions League, I'm like, wow, like, this is what we, this is a talent that we have at our disposal.
00:22:23
Jamie
We've got to keep him injury free. And unfortunately, he was so, so injury plagued. I think if you take away his injuries, again, I think he could have had an amazing career at Arsenal.
00:22:38
Josh D
yeah
00:22:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:39
Jamie
Funny enough, I've also met Jack Wilshire as well.
00:22:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh for goodness sake. ah You may have listened to the episode that came out yesterday. Jamie's met ah Patrick Vieira.
00:22:50
Josh D
Oh, really?
00:22:50
Jamie
yeah
00:22:51
Josh D
go well
00:22:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
You have a much more chilled reaction than I did.
00:22:53
Josh D
yeah
00:22:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was livid.
00:22:56
Jamie
yeah yeah and you know what it is I even got my phone out and showed him the photo as well
00:23:02
Josh D
Oh, God, come on, man.
00:23:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was braggadoseal at that point in time.
00:23:07
Josh D
as
00:23:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, Craig, I mean, there's one game, in particular, when we're talking about Jack Wilshire, that game against Barcelona. I mean, it sticks in my memory.
00:23:14
Craig matthews
Dominate. In the Esther Buskets and Javi and that I was watching the game thinking, how can they be dominating these guys who are only 19 years old against like men?
00:23:29
Craig matthews
These guys were experienced pros like Champions League winners, Cup winners, behind the big reputation.
00:23:30
Jamie
Yeah.
00:23:37
Craig matthews
and it i It was fearless in that game.
00:23:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it was crazy. Josh, obviously, like Jamie said, injury plagued him. What do you reckon his heights could have been? Like cause he was such a talented player.
00:23:52
Josh D
I think, I think we'll ask the fans for, he'll be our next Arsenal captain, you know, lead us to glory, really. That was, and he was going to be in England great as well in that midfield. He was the only one that could really play, play the ball, you know, pick a pass.
00:24:03
Josh D
He was our, you know, our Iniesta, basically, you know, our English in the Iniesta for England and Arsenal.
00:24:09
Craig matthews
Mm.
00:24:10
Josh D
And it just, you know, when I first saw it, I think when he was on loan football and he came on, I was like, this guy is too good to you, you know, and I think he can get in the team. Like he definitely can put a run in the team. And then, yeah, just injuries.
00:24:21
Josh D
And then, you know, I think the decision when, I think that time when Emory came in and he could have stayed at Arsenal and he chose to to leave, I think he should have stayed.
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:30
Josh D
I think maybe he probably would have put more out of But yeah, it's such a waste. Big waste.
00:24:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a waste. And I mean, there was there was a slight, you know, happy ending briefly, because in 2022, just after he'd announced he was retired from playing, he was the and he was under 18's coach for Arsenal.
00:24:49
Josh D
mi
00:24:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And but he was doing some he was doing some work as well. Like he got to the final of the 22-23 FA Cup, the youth f FA Cup, obviously. they We lost it to West Ham infuriatingly.
00:24:49
Jamie
yeah
00:25:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's hope that's not, let's hope that's not important for what's going to happen on Saturday.
00:25:04
Jamie
ah
00:25:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
but um
00:25:05
Josh D
good
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Unfortunately, about a month ago, he left Arsenal.
00:25:11
Josh D
Yeah.
00:25:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's gone to Norwich.
00:25:11
Josh D
Yeah. I want some talks going like that.
00:25:12
Jamie
Yeah. No rage.
00:25:13
Josh D
Yeah.
00:25:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:14
Josh D
Yeah.
00:25:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's just, it's sad to see him go again. Honestly, I thought we had him at last. So that's my list of, uh, players who didn't quite make it. Is there any others that you lads want to throw out?
00:25:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Any names that jumped to my... Oh, Josh has got one there.
00:25:28
Craig matthews
I've got two.
00:25:28
Jamie
Go on JD.
00:25:30
Craig matthews
I've got two.
00:25:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, go on then.
00:25:31
Josh D
I Craig go first.
00:25:32
Jamie
Oh, Craig.
00:25:33
Josh D
Go on, Craig.
00:25:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don Craid.
00:25:33
Josh D
You go.
00:25:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Luperli.
00:25:41
Jamie
Hmm.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arturo Luperli.
00:25:55
Jamie
Hmm.
00:25:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it. Yeah.
00:25:57
Craig matthews
He was the one that I once thought would be the next best swing I need.
00:25:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
a His Wikipedia picture is looks like a businessman in a car park.
00:26:01
Craig matthews
Had a good good potential, but I didn't really work Yeah.
00:26:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's awful. it's not even you You know normally like players, even retired ones, have got one of them in a kit. It is him in a suit and tie at a car park somewhere. like that That's a brutal fall from grace.
00:26:17
Josh D
ah
00:26:17
Craig matthews
you
00:26:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, that's a fair shout. What was the other one you had, Craig?
00:26:22
Craig matthews
Betno.
00:26:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bender?
00:26:24
Craig matthews
Nicholas Betno.
00:26:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I never thought he had a high ceiling, personally.
00:26:25
Josh D
I must haze a bit more. Yeah, just haze a bit.
00:26:28
Craig matthews
I don't get a high feeling, but I thought that the hype, that they were having with the hypers, they were going to be at the strike of Rosslyn. Didn't really work out for Rosslyn to be fair. He did better on loans, I think, than Arsenal.
00:26:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's get his stats. So 108 for us and 24 goals. Oh, he did all right for Rosenberg, 57 appearances, 24 goals. I mean, the Lord has a special place in all our hearts, I think, doesn't he?
00:26:41
Craig matthews
When it was on loans.
00:26:55
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:26:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really, truly deeply. Josh, which name was it you want to throw at?
00:27:01
Josh D
Well, I remember, I was young at the time, but I remember when we signed and I remember he was meant to be this, apparently at the time, we didn't have a guy that can get goals, goes in the box, he meant to be the fox in the box, and I mentioned it before, as Francis Jeffers, that guy was meant to be the guy that was to get goals, you know, and again, injuries again, but for me, even I was young at the time, I don't think it was ever going to hit the science that he was meant to hit, but I remember he wasn't going to do a big sign and I think everyone was after him at one point.
00:27:31
Josh D
And yeah, it just didn't work out.
00:27:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
it yeah it was it was huge when he came to us all right let's have a quick look an eight million fee in 2001 that's huge money okay
00:27:38
Josh D
Yeah, yeah, it was it was a big, it was a big, yeah, it was a big sign.
00:27:40
Jamie
Wow.
00:27:41
Josh D
and Yeah, yeah.
00:27:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it came from Everton where he'd got 18 in 49 games, which is mad. And then for Arsenal, he just... I'm just trying to see how many games he actually played for Arsenal. 22 appearances.
00:27:52
Josh D
And he played a big game as well.
00:27:52
Craig matthews
Wow.
00:27:53
Josh D
You know, I remember he played him again at Old Trafford.
00:27:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:55
Josh D
I think he got injured in that game as well, to be fair. But yeah, he had loads of injuries, yeah, he had loads of injuries.
00:27:58
Craig matthews
then
00:27:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he was... Brittle bones. Brittle bones. And he saw his career de-read. Oh my word. ge Right. So I'm just looking again at the stats.
00:28:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
His entire professional career, right? This is a player who was meant to be the big thing.
00:28:13
Jamie
Mm.
00:28:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
235 games he played over from 1997 to 2013. So that's 16 years he only played 230 games.
00:28:19
Craig matthews
Wow.
00:28:19
Jamie
Oh, wow.
00:28:23
Craig matthews
Wow, into his mind.
00:28:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
hiion He only scored 40 goals in his entire career.
00:28:28
Josh D
oh
00:28:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's brutal.
00:28:32
Josh D
Yeah.
00:28:33
Craig matthews
Scored in his England debut though, didn't he?
00:28:35
Josh D
Yeah, he did, yeah.
00:28:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did, yes.
00:28:36
Josh D
He did. He did, yeah.
00:28:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. One game, one goal for England.
00:28:38
Jamie
Hmm.
00:28:40
Josh D
I never said record, you know.
00:28:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Hey, you know, Harry Redneck style.
00:28:44
Craig matthews
Hard if it's like a rep.
00:28:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
One on one.
00:28:49
Craig matthews
There's a lot more players, there's a lot more track to think of.
00:28:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Oh, go on then.
00:28:52
Craig matthews
Eduardo, the one who broke his leg.
Eduardo da Silva's Career-Altering Injury
00:28:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, Eduardo.
00:28:54
Jamie
Oh.
00:28:54
Josh D
Oh, yeah.
00:28:54
Craig matthews
off He, Eduardo da Silva.
00:28:55
Jamie
ah
00:28:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh.
00:28:56
Josh D
was ah That one hurt me. That one That one hurt me.
00:28:59
Craig matthews
Eduardo, that one hurt me when he broke his leg, man, of course. Yeah, that season.
00:29:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. That was, that was a brutal break. Wasn't it?
00:29:08
Craig matthews
Mmm, burning away.
00:29:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, yeah.
00:29:09
Jamie
Yeah.
00:29:09
Josh D
you Yeah, I remember watching it.
00:29:11
Jamie
Birmingham away, Matt Taylor. It was Matt Taylor.
00:29:16
Craig matthews
and mark Yeah, Yeah.
00:29:16
Jamie
I believe. And I remember reading the papers the next day.
00:29:18
Josh D
I remember watching it. Yeah.
00:29:22
Jamie
And all you saw on the back papers was that he should have been banned for life.
00:29:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Martin Taylor.
00:29:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was it. Yeah.
00:29:28
Josh D
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:29
Jamie
That's it. Martin Taylor.
00:29:29
Craig matthews
often pay off Yeah.
00:29:30
Jamie
Yeah. That he should have been banned for life after that horrific tackle.
00:29:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh my. Jesus. So Gilberto Silva is the only person who could speak Portuguese and English so he had to go with him.
00:29:38
Josh D
Oh,
00:29:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
He had to translate everything for him.
00:29:40
Jamie
Wow.
00:29:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah, you're right Jamie.
00:29:42
Josh D
wow.
00:29:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Van Gogh called for a lifetime ban for Taylor.
00:29:46
Jamie
Yeah.
00:29:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
um So it looks as though he broke his left fibula and dislocated his left ankle.
00:29:53
Jamie
Oh, it was that bad.
00:29:53
Josh D
Yeah.
00:29:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is shockingly bad.
00:29:56
Craig matthews
your Yeah.
00:29:57
Josh D
I remember watching the game.
00:29:59
Jamie
It was that bad that the they couldn't even show replays of the tackle because it was that horrific.
00:30:02
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was
00:30:03
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was hanging, wasn't it?
00:30:06
Jamie
That's it.
00:30:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Awkwardly, it just looked wrong.
00:30:06
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:06
Jamie
Yeah, it did.
00:30:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, God, yeah, that was horrible. Well, that's a brutal, that's a brutal thought to...
00:30:13
Jamie
And I believe, I believe also he did go to Shakhtar Donetsk.
00:30:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah He did, yes, 2015 he went to Shakhtar.
00:30:18
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:19
Jamie
Yeah, that's it.
00:30:20
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
14 goals in 29 games, not bad, not bad.
00:30:24
Jamie
Hmm.
00:30:24
Josh D
yeah
00:30:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but again, I mean, once you've had a break like that, you're never gonna be the same again, are you?
00:30:27
Craig matthews
Definitely not, no.
00:30:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:30:29
Jamie
Unfortunately not.
00:30:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. And I mean his Arsenal career was scuppered for it. He was with us for three years and only played 41 games. So that shows how much of an impact it had. The actual injury.
00:30:37
Josh D
He was a cold finisher, though.
00:30:39
Jamie
Yes.
00:30:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, you're so good.
00:30:39
Craig matthews
Got the finish.
00:30:40
Josh D
He was cold finisher, man.
00:30:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Wow. So.
00:30:42
Josh D
He was...
00:30:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it happened on the 23rd of February, 2008, the break. His next game was the 16th of February, 2009. Nearly a whole year.
00:30:53
Jamie
Wow.
00:30:53
Josh D
Yeah.
00:30:53
Craig matthews
then
00:30:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's actually, that's quite quick for what happened.
00:30:57
Josh D
Yeah, he came back quick. Yeah, he came back.
00:30:59
Jamie
Yeah.
00:30:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:59
Josh D
um I'll never forget, i've watching I was watching the game and I saw the i saw the Brit and I saw it like dangling. I was like, yo, this is crazy. And then I'm going to play football that day and I didn't go.
00:31:11
Jamie
da
00:31:11
Craig matthews
yeah
00:31:12
Jamie
JD was scarred for life.
00:31:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm not going to be another Eduardo.
00:31:13
Josh D
Yeah.
00:31:15
Jamie
JD was scarred for life.
00:31:16
Josh D
yeah
00:31:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Shock, did you have any Jamie or have all of yours been mentioned?
00:31:22
Jamie
Yeah, for me, it was like Eduardo, but a player that I couldn't, I know like,
00:31:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:27
Jamie
I know he left, but I would have also mentioned like Serge Ganabri.
00:31:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, he was a weird one for us, wasn't he?
00:31:36
Jamie
Yeah.
00:31:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
So she can operate.
00:31:37
Josh D
yeah
00:31:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
He, the talent was clearly there.
00:31:40
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:31:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
But Venga just couldn't unlock it.
00:31:43
Jamie
Nah.
00:31:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, wow, he only actually played 10 games for us.
00:31:47
Craig matthews
Wow.
00:31:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:31:48
Jamie
I'm sure, do you know what?
00:31:50
Jamie
I'm sure most of them were like League Cup games as well, to be fair.
00:31:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:53
Josh D
Yeah.
00:31:53
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:31:55
Josh D
Denise Golly primarily debut against, who's against?
00:31:57
Craig matthews
Swansy, swansy, swansy away, swansy away.
00:31:57
Josh D
I can't remember. Yeah.
00:31:58
Jamie
Yes.
00:31:59
Josh D
Yeah.
00:31:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:32:00
Craig matthews
Yeah, it was Ren that day as well.
00:32:00
Josh D
And he played the right that game. He played the right thing. I was thinking, he was right.
00:32:02
Jamie
o
00:32:04
Craig matthews
I think Ren got prepared.
00:32:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:06
Craig matthews
I'll see a walker ahead of him at the A walker was knocking his feet.
00:32:07
Jamie
Don't understand. ah Do you know what? I don't understand that.
00:32:09
Craig matthews
ah or
00:32:12
Craig matthews
But Walcott was blocking his path into the first scene. And I've never heard on the rat side of the time. so
00:32:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean he was around at the same time as Alex Oxlow-Chamberlain as well. It was like him, Nabri and Walcott all fighting for that position and when Ox was mostly on the right hand side rather than playing through the middle like he used to for Liverpool.
00:32:26
Craig matthews
yeah
00:32:30
Jamie
That's it.
00:32:31
Josh D
yeah yeah yeah yeah and as yeah yeah
00:32:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it was a tough ride for him and now he's um now he's doing things at Bayern.
00:32:36
Craig matthews
People everything I want everything there.
00:32:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's really doofy.
00:32:37
Jamie
Pretty much.
00:32:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Would you boys have him back?
00:32:41
Craig matthews
I would.
00:32:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's 29, but I'd have him quite happily.
00:32:46
Jamie
Yeah.
00:32:47
Craig matthews
It could be a good back office, it could be a good back office, or it could be on the left.
00:32:49
Jamie
Oh yeah. Read my mind there.
00:32:53
Craig matthews
Yeah.
00:32:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
mmm sure i might we might have to forward this episode to uh mickel should be like yeah mickel just stick with us, there's a lot of insult in old players, but stick with us till the 32 minute mark and then i just listen in.
00:33:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah pick up Pick up the a little bit of advice.
00:33:07
Craig matthews
of
00:33:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah That's it for today. Thank you all very much for listening. um I've been Josh Finns, a huge thank you as always to Jamie Patterson, Craig Matthews and Joshua Duncan. And we will be back very soon with our next episode. But until then, have a wonderful evening and goodbye.