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S1-E84: Stokenal FC And World News!

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On today's Tactics Tuesday, the lads take a look at the discourse surrounding the new Stoke City side in the premier league, also known as Arsenal Football club. Join the two Josh's as they hilarioulsy dive deep into discussion about the Pulis ways, the madness of Ian Holloway and so much more!

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Introduction and Personal Anecdotes

00:00:01
Speaker
every club every day the global sports podcast network work hello and welcome to the daily arsenal podcast brought to you as part of the global sports podcast network today is tuesday which means tactics tuesday and you are joined by myself josh vince and the one and only joshua duncan josh how you doing buddy you've been all right ah Yeah, I'm sort of covering from Saturday, I gotta be honest. and I'm not happy about that. Everton draw, how he played, but in a personal life, yeah, I'm gonna end it. How you doing, mate? I'm doing all right. I'm also recovering from Saturday, but for different reasons. I went out after the game. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, yes. It was a foolish idea to go out in Manchester City Centre on a Saturday night just before Christmas. Couldn't get in anywhere. And when we did, the drinks were ridiculously expensive and my head ached like hell the next day.
00:00:53
Speaker
It's that time of year though, isn't it? But we're not here to talk about hangovers and foolish mistakes that we've made, because if we did, it this could be an hour long

Arsenal's Set-Piece Proficiency

00:01:02
Speaker
podcast. so We're here instead to talk about Arsenal. In particular, our comparisons that have been made recently in the media to Stoke City. Now, Josh, have you heard much about this particularly?
00:01:17
Speaker
um I've heard a little, I don't really listen to it, I don't really listen to the negativity noises around us, but um they' they've got a bit of a point, but there's a little bit of hate in there, I think. Well, it's interesting because I've been reading up on it today and basically it comes from this. Arsenal have scored the most Premier League goals from corners since the start of the last season, we already knew that. And this prowess has led us to be in compared to Pulis' Stokeside who netted, by the way, this is mad, okay, between 2008 and 2013, 43% of their goals were set pieces.
00:01:54
Speaker
81, 81 of the 188 goals they scored in five years were from set pieces. Wow. Which was that just under Tony Pulis? That was just under Pulis, yeah. Wow. Yeah, which is madness. And, you know, it's funny, we were talking literally just a moment ago about ah Liam Dallap and Rory Dallap being fun. So obviously, Mr. Dallap known for one thing in particular.
00:02:23
Speaker
yeah those glorious glorious throw-ins and i actually i've got a quote about that saying that we might need somebody who can do that um so we're actually we obviously haven't met that stat you know they scored 43 of us were set pieces um since the start of last season 25 of us have been which is still quite a lot yeah um so i can vaguely see where the Stoke comparison um comes from. But Tony Pudas has spoken about this as well. He's come out and oh sort of given his retort. Yeah. ah He said that it was inevitable that he would be considered a trailblazer and a set piece guru.
00:03:07
Speaker
i love they took water credit oh yeah hundred percent It's nothing to do with over anything like pe list is just set on the fact it's like oh no yeah eventually people are gonna catch on that I was doing brilliant things like ah I don't know how much you're a member of the Hughless era, but I always loved his post-match interviews because he's such a wild character, it was Tony Hughless. You know what's funny, when he was on a touchline, he'd wear a tracksuit and his hat and glasses, and then in the interview he'd just wear a suit and look like a completely different guy.
00:03:41
Speaker
It's like he had the change in the dressing room ready to go. It's just like, yeah, I've looked like a bit of a scumbag on the touchline. But if I'm going in front of a camera and it's there, I'm going to be suited and booted to the nines. ah He went on to say, as Arsenal are showing, it's such an important part of the game. It's something that is coming more into fashion, teams up and down the country having set place, coaches. It's taken every while it's taken every everyone a while to work it out, but it looks like the pennies dropped.
00:04:08
Speaker
So he really is claiming ownership over this, like completely and utterly. um Now, in particular, he brings up a tactical thing, which I hadn't really realized, but thinking about it when you look at how we do set pieces makes a lot of sense.

Zonal Marking vs. Arsenal's Attack

00:04:24
Speaker
yeah A lot of the goals they have scored, which I have seen, have been scored against zonal marking. I always used to hope and pray teams would zonal mark, because you have people standing and jumping. When it's a running jump against a standing jump, there's not many people who will beat you. Arsenal are attacking the spaces in between the zonal markers, and everyone is on the move.
00:04:44
Speaker
Now, I haven't thought about that particularly, but when I think back to the girls we have scored, Zonal Marking does seem to be used against us, weirdly, as opposed to Man for Man. Yeah, I think a lot of people like Zonal Marking. As my people, I never liked it because whether I'm positioning this person stronger than me or bigger than me, I'm just going to outplay me, you know? I think Man for Man always works. I'm a strong believer in Man for Man. Zonal Marking, I mean, shows doesn't work a lot. Did you experience a bit of it when you were playing?
00:05:14
Speaker
Yeah, he I hated it. I think in certain games it can work, you know, but you need to know your opponents. But now, I ran from them all for me. I'll be honest, like I've seen Zonal Marking over the years and I've never entirely understood it.
00:05:31
Speaker
Like the concept of it, I get sort of like trying to have specific positions where you think the ball is going to be coming in. But surely if you're following your man, you'll be hitting those zones anyway, because you're tracking your man to where they want the ball to be. It kind of depends because when I first introduced it on the market, whether it is on the pitch, because everyone just, you know, when you're kids and you're young, you just go anywhere and the ball's going. they'll put cones on every zone and you'd have to stay in that zone like here to there that's where you have to be and it's kind of that's how it is in the Premier League but they just know it in their head you know I will hear from here and whoever's in there I'm going to mark them but again like with Gabrielle they again what Teddy Cruz was saying they utilize the space so well where it doesn't you know they stay in that zone but they know that they can you know overpower that part there
00:06:16
Speaker
You have to get their goals. Because often, I think when Gabrielle's not playing, I imagine Saliba's going to be in that role. But yeah very rarely he actually is. It's more like a marina or somebody. And it kind of makes sense with what Pulus is saying that you need, you need the stronger person. Yeah, don't you to make you to be making that run? Yeah.
00:06:36
Speaker
Yeah, because it's all good and well having speed and having the jump, but it's that strength that pushes you forward and gets the actual gets the power on the ball. Yeah, end of the day and that's what you're aiming for from a set piece delivery. Um, so that was pure less and I have to admit when I was reading that I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed his responses to that is such a fascinating character as that man, honestly. We could probably do an entire podcast on it. Actually, another, what was the ah Bristol City Manager? Do you remember him? The really straight, Ian Holloway. Blackpool. Ian Holloway. Oh yeah, Ian Holloway. He's crazy, he's nuts. Absolutely nuts. For some reason, I always put the two of them together in my mind. I always see them as the same, even though Tony Pulis was far more Aggie and irritable.
00:07:26
Speaker
Tony Pew this in Holloway was just insane. Yeah, like pure bonkers energy, which interviews were funny. They he just said anything. It was the fact is, you know, for anybody listening from this part of the world, I do apologize, but from the West Country, people are so funny.
00:07:44
Speaker
if you stuff They stuff they come out with is incredible with that accent as well when it's kind of like that and you're just it's kind of like a camp pirate genius it's it's not it's it's an awful lot to take after after like an intense physical game of football to then have yeah, yeah, we were running around like headless rabbits out there It's such a juxtaposition of the two things. I just i i kind of miss that funny energy. that the premp yeah because there's not many When you think about it in the game these days, Josh, there's not many characters really in terms of managers are there.
00:08:21
Speaker
Nah, I think the only person, well, unless it's miserable or you're making fun of them, yeah there's no one that's really funny, you know? There's one' everyone just really serious game face on. The only one that comes to mind, maybe Runio, he might say time cheeky, you know? That's about it. Clop, I didn't mind.
00:08:37
Speaker
because he had moments where he was kind of he was funny or he was frank or he would just randomly swear in the middle of after having beaten Barcelona 4-0 and said that he didn't care about it and just like told them to go and do one effectively when they told him off for swearing because kids would be in bed. But he's the only one I can really think of. Like like you say, everybody's very serious now.
00:09:01
Speaker
It kind of, it takes the fun out of those post-match interviews when you don't have the insanity of somebody just going at it.

Set-Piece Dependency: Strategy or Flaw?

00:09:08
Speaker
Like, was it Steve Bruce who kicked off at one of them once about taking the piss or something? No, it was Roy, Roy Hudson. Roy Hudson, that's it. I'm not taking the piss, Roy. Well, I think you are. I think you are. Yeah, I'll take the piss.
00:09:30
Speaker
Do you want to do the interview again or are we going to cut hair? I saw it recently. I saw a couple months ago. it It's just, it's another gem. It is an absolute beauty. ah right but I think that was Tony Pew this is opinion. When we come back, um I want to take you through some pundits opinions as well because equally some of them are delightfully fun and funny. Some of them are quite complimentary, but the others are just ridiculous. So we'll be back just after this break.
00:09:56
Speaker
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00:10:20
Speaker
If you're ready to tell your story, check out the link in the show description to learn more about Zencaster. And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. You're here with Josh and Josh. It's just the two of us today. Double trouble. And we are here talking about the comparison to Stoke City. And we looked at the, to be honest, the only stat that matters and that anybody's brought up is the fact we've scored a lot of set piece goals. And so did Stoke.
00:10:45
Speaker
But they so they needed them a lot more than we do. But I've got some um i've got some really, really fun little ah ditties from individuals. Dibetal Bervetov. So a lot of it came out after the United game, you know, when I think it was Timber got the header to win the game. um So Dibetal was the one who started it off. He was the first one to say it.
00:11:07
Speaker
Arsenal are the new Stoke City, depending on set pieces to give them the win. Now, I don't particularly like that because he's saying, depending on set pieces. However, could it be argued that we do a bit too much at the moment?
00:11:21
Speaker
Um, well recently, yeah, but I'm a bit of a tough, he needs to start talking because he can't, he still can't strike a football. style I've literally, I watched the soccer box and he said that, you know, we've Gary Neville and he was saying, um, you know, when he came into the club, you know, he was a bit worried that we've got a strike off. He can't hit a football. but So, you know, you know, I mean, you need to go learn that. for For a striker who does time at Spurs, it's pretty rich, isn't it?
00:11:48
Speaker
but Joe, speaking of Gary Neville, he had something to say about Nicholas Yover. So Nicholas Yover, I think of him as a genius. You know, he's he's an important part of my life now. You know, watching him come up to the touch line, crossed arms, waving around like a lunatic. He's beautiful. This is what Gary Neville had to say about him. He is the most annoying bloke in football.
00:12:12
Speaker
You know, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, I get what you're saying here, but what do you want a man to mean? Not to be good at his job? He bought into me to do set pieces, right? and he's And he's made it very well known that I'm so good at this. So if anything, he needs to have a bonus. Exactly. I think he deserves whatever he needs to stay. That's for sure.
00:12:33
Speaker
um um I've never seen it in the real world, that wouldn't work. I imagine going I go into work and I'm really good at my job. I'm known for one thing, but I'm really good at my job. No one's going to say, oh, he's annoying. yeah You know, he's annoying, doing his good job. Do you know, Arteta summed up really well. Arteta said this.
00:12:48
Speaker
Before, it was we didn't score enough, so we were soft at defending. We didn't have the mentality. We weren't physical enough. We didn't big any big teams from home for the last 17, 20, 22 years. We want to be the best at everything. We want to have the best academy, the best player development, recruit the best players, best coaches, the best set pieces. That's the aim. Because it does feel as though if you're Arsenal, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't at the moment.

Arsenal's Media Reputation and Comparisons

00:13:13
Speaker
Yeah, I think us has always got a bit of stick um you know in the media. that you we were always is I remember the days when Jack Hall used to get sent off and all that sort of stuff. We would always get it. I think Matt Richardson mentioned it as well one time and in the Sky Studio. and you know I kind of agree. we always at the bottom of the joke. We always they always target us. And I don't understand why, because I'm not being funny, but we're not really winning anything. and it's a were We're a weird club to pick up, aren't we? I've never got it. Is it just because, you know, we used, like, are people still using the invincibles to get at us? Like, I have city fans nowadays talking to me. It's just like, well, yeah, you guys have won four in a row. It's just like, yeah, well, you're invincible and you never shut up about that.
00:13:58
Speaker
but it's all we have. yeah you know We've had a few FA cups and apart from it, that is it really. yeah um There's quite an interesting stat that came along as well when I was digging in this piece. Goals from corners in Europe's big five. um We are top.
00:14:15
Speaker
this season. We are top in Europe, which is mad. ah We have 22 girls from set pieces. ah This was from the 4th of December. So I think it's gone up since then. Next up was Leverkusen. So we had 22. How many, how close do you reckon they were? I want to say they had 19. 17. With five ahead of them. And then it's Machin Gladbach. Oh, wow. yeah With, also, a team who keeps insulting us about our setpiece goals, Man City a fifth. Really? Yeah! Fifteen. Oh wow. Oh wow. I think this is in all competitions, to be fair. I'm so surprised by that. Yeah, so am I. Honestly, it doesn't make any... like City had been so crap, you wouldn't imagine they'd actually been any good from set... But then again, I guess their equaliser against us was technically a setpiece, wasn't it?
00:15:09
Speaker
and so yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah off one but yeah But when we look at like the set piece kings in terms of percentages we are towards the top in terms of like Premier League 2023 to 2024 but Everton half of their goals from the start of 2023 to 2024 half of their goals were set pieces Everton Like, it's sure natural. Well, I'm not surprised. We just do it in a more elegant and beautiful way because we are frankly, just a better club. So, so to put a wrap under this whole stoke thing.
00:15:50
Speaker
Do you see it as, um for example, Roberto Martinez sees it, we all suffered s Stoke, I think it's great credit to remember Tony Pughless. So see it as a compliment, or do you see it more as Gary Neville sort of it being ah more of an insult to be compared to Stoke City in their heyday?
00:16:08
Speaker
um It's a bit of both because, only because we're not scoring an open play and that's the worrying part. You know, if we were scoring an open play and then we had that in our lock heart, you know, an extra arsenary, you know, i I would tell them to shut up and, you know, go back to worry about your night, you know, again, have a worry about, you know, your your team. But at the moment, I think there's bigger problems that at the moment it seems to be the only way we're scoring and, you know, you can't win titles like that.
00:16:34
Speaker
It does. And I mean, this this quote from Oliver Holt is a journalist ah was is a couple of weeks old. It kind of disagrees with that. But I think in the last couple of weeks, it's become more apparent our actual problem. That stokeside under manager Tony Pulis was largely defined by their set piece for Alliance. It felt like camouflage for their limitations. It's not like that with Arsenal. Their set piece excellence is another weapon in an already daunting armory.
00:17:00
Speaker
However, like you just said at the moment, it doesn't really feel like that, does it? Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't at all. We're far too reliant on them. But do you know what, do you know what Stoke fans, if you're listening to be considered, you know, let's call it Stoke and all.
00:17:15
Speaker
it's but we'll We'll take that. We'll take that one for you. Yeah, we're gonna take another little break. And when we come back, we're just going to chat about some of the footballing news from around the world, because there's been quite a lot going on at the moment. So we'll be back just after this little break.
00:17:31
Speaker
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00:18:01
Speaker
Global Sports Podcast Network, every club, every day. And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. It's our Tactics Tuesday and we had a little bit of a tactical dive comparing us to Stoke City, as apparently we have become them in the Premier League. But it's time to look around the rest of the world and at other news coming out of other leagues and the Premier League. So the first story that I kind of wanted to bring up with you, Josh,
00:18:27
Speaker
is it was a big, big talking point on Sunday between Arsenal ambassador Mika Richards and Gary Neville. yeah um the The end of the road for Marcus Rashford and Guy Nacho.
00:18:43
Speaker
Because after the game, Amarine came out and said, today the team proved we can leave anybody at the squad and manage to win if you play together. He also talked about he cares how his players talk, what they wear, what they drive, and their attitude in training. To me, and to a lot of fans, especially online, that seemed like a big dig at those two young players. what Do you think he's throwing them under the bus a little bit?

Criticism of Rashford and Garnacho

00:19:09
Speaker
um Well, from what I heard as well, you know, they're not pulling their weight in training, you know, they don't track back. I mean, the manager is there to to get the best out of the team and he made his final decision. So he feels that they're not, they're not pulling the socks up. I think if it if it was me and I had my manager here saying, i'll I'll be pretty embarrassed. yeah you know you If anything, I want to prove a point. and But I think you've got a point there, especially with Rashford. I think Rashford's been He's a guy that he gets hot and cold and sometimes when he's cold, it's like he doesn't care. You know, you can have his own bad forms, but he actually just seems like he doesn't care. You know, it does like he's 27 now.
00:19:47
Speaker
which is mad because I remember him being a child and being a prodigy. it just We were talking about how old we feel only 10 minutes ago, and and that make Marcus Rashid's aides made me feel really, really old. But I mean, he had that brilliant run after the World Cup where he scored like 20 goals or something ridiculous. But you're right, it's so hot and cold with him.
00:20:11
Speaker
do you Do you think he just needs to move on from United, move on from the noise and move on to another challenge? Because I just get the impression that United is that sort of a club where players with potential, if they're not hitting it, they just wither.
00:20:27
Speaker
That's a very good question, you know, I mean, I think for him, maybe more of a less of a challenge probably will do the best be best for him. But I just don't see that happen. I've seen I probably gonna persist with him. You know, they've invested a lot in him, you know, given him decent contracts as well. Yeah, I don't see him I see him staying there on kind of rotten and then probably I don't know. I don't know. It's a tough one. is is I don't really understand how ah you even get really rid of him. Where where would he go? ah ah I was kind of thinking that because obviously PSG had been linked with him for years and he'd probably you know tear it up in the French league because it is the farmer's league currently of Europe. yeah and you know he'd He'd get back in the England side, that's for sure, because he'd be netting goals for fun.
00:21:15
Speaker
um but i don't i don't really know if that would help him particularly if you know what i mean yeah yeah i don't think it would i don't think it would i may think that I was going to say, no also with G'natural, I think he's still young. Have you heard that there's a little thing where he's um apparently been leaking the team to team news on social media? Really? I don't know how true he but I thought it today, like, apparently he's someone's been leaking the team and line up on social media. And every time he gets leaked, he's always in the starting lineup.
00:21:50
Speaker
so that's interesting him i don't i don't i don't want it you can actually be listening and i'm not saying it's you i don't actually know that's what i've heard we don't want a lawsuit that show if you are listening but also what you're playing at son be careful if you're going to do that sort of thing joe i can see ganache going to italy league or somewhere like that i think for some reason i just see italy suiting him really well if he was to move on from united for example um Talk about other news, i mean ah Barcelona are tripping up a little bit at the moment. They lost at the weekend and they've just lost Lamine Yamel. There's an awful lot of injuries going around at the moment, aren't there Josh? like yeah All over the place. Do you attribute that to just an absurd amount of games being played or is it something a bit deeper, do you think?
00:22:37
Speaker
It must be the extra fixtures, you know, it must be too much for the players, you know, it's, I think what is the time of this league? How many extra issues is it? Is it like two or three more games? I think it's two more games. If we don't qualify. But then, well, it's because it used to be six group stage games you'd play, but now they play eight.
00:22:58
Speaker
And then if you're in that middle section, you then have to do two legs of a playoff yeah yeah as well. So it's up to four extra games for a team if they don't you know if they're in that middle section, which, yeah thankfully, it looks like Arsenal might not be. We just need to win our last couple of games. But but it it does seem like an awful lot.

Nations League Format Confusion

00:23:17
Speaker
You're not keen on the format, are you?
00:23:20
Speaker
Nah, no, not for Champions League. I think they should have done this for more for, you know, the UEFA friendlies, you know, maybe something like that. I would have been it would been more interested in, you know. Sort of like international stuff. Yeah, international, yeah. Because you've got the nation league and that's basically Champions League but with just international teams and that's boring.
00:23:39
Speaker
And i I'll be honest, I've looked at the groups and how they ranked stuff and I still don't understand the promotion of relegation in the Nations League because there's the top tier but there's like four groups in the top tier. Yeah. yeah you get it It doesn't make sense. it makes no sense whatsoever. Whereas, I mean, if you had a big league, like, let's say, you know, 36 national teams, let's say all the European countries, or something like that. And it's just, it's just a little bit of extra prestige, really, isn't it? yeah It's not like it wouldn't be like a World Cup win or a Euros win or anything like that. It'd just be sort of like and a nice little, nice little addition.
00:24:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how many times I'm going to see England pay Greece or Maldolgo or something like that. You know, it was getting boring. I mean, it gets dull watching us smashing all the line and all the time. Yeah. You know, I think the last thing really that we can talk about today in terms of the news, we brought up yesterday, Gary O'Neill being

Managerial Instability in the League

00:24:39
Speaker
sacked. But since then, since we recorded, Russell Martin has also been sacked from Southampton. two seconds on the same day. You could see that one coming though, couldn't you? Yeah, I was writing these last that long. Literally, I was watching a lot of my lunch break today and you know that since the episode, we know when Principal Skinner gets fired. Yeah. Yes. They had superintended traumas that have happened to me. He goes, hey, you're fired. He goes, I'm sorry, didn't you just call me a liar?
00:25:16
Speaker
yeah but that's watch was i fall hilarious i guess i'm laugh ah as well absolutely brilliant i love that that's how hot at the news that's how company got that That's how you found out. yeah i went to go look i like oh you got sacked Yeah, I think he got sat like literally half an hour after the game Like the wow, I mean they lost 5-0 at home Like and let's be I mean Southampton have had a rough history of home losses. Do you remember the 9-0? I think it was Liverpool. Liverpool. oh Yeah, that was a bonk and I and somehow Ralph Haslam. Yeah, they stayed up and he wasn't sacked on the spot. Like if anybody else lost 9-0 at home, you'd imagine, you know, instantly going for the chop.
00:26:06
Speaker
but there was a there was kind of like a little pop question that I wanted to ask you. So since 2019-20 there have been, let me just count them quickly, okay there's been about 16 managerial sackings of teams in the relegation zone. So obviously trying to, you know, they sat in the manager in hopes of survival.
00:26:29
Speaker
So out of those 15, how many times do you think that getting a new manager in worked in helping them survive?

Relegation Zone Managerial Stats

00:26:42
Speaker
I'm probably going to say it's probably been, I don't think it's high. I don't think it's a lot. I don't think it's a lot. I'm going to say that probably four out of the 15. Five. Oh, yeah. Out of the 15. You're very close. Yeah. It's not been a successful way of dealing with the situation. So the ones that did work is when Everton sacked Marco Silva in 2019, 2020. I remember that. Do you remember who they brought in as well?
00:27:14
Speaker
Well, Frank Lampard. Was it actually Frank Lampard? I'm pretty sure it was Frank Lampard afterwards because interestingly, in 2022-23, one of the other ones that worked is when Frank Lampard was sacked, by the time, and replaced with Sean Dyche. Wasn't it Rafa Benitez? Rafa Benitez. I think Rafa was before. I'm sure Lampard came after Rafa Benitez. We're gonna do a quick Google here. Everton managers in chronological order. We got to get this right for you listeners, because this is the Daily Arsenal podcast. We are by no means experts. Oh, my God, you're right. Yeah, I remember. I remember because I had a bet with my cousin. I had a bet. I don't know why he was he was having a he was having a speech. You know, I mean, I don't know what's wrong with him that day. He goes, they're going to give people at Marco managers, you know, a Marco Silva, they're going to give him a chance. He doesn't deserve chances. And I said, how was when a bet you're not going to last a season? He was like, I bet you £20 he's going to last a season. And I was like, you think he's going to last a season even though you don't rate him? And I was like... That was better than betting eating a hat if Howard scores 20 because he's willing to play. The way we play, no he's not. That's very fair. So after Marco Silva, it was Duncan Ferguson, then it was Carlo Ancelotti. Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, it was Ancelotti, then Benitez, then Ferguson again, then Lampard, then God, they've had.
00:28:40
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Since 2019, they have had one, two, three, four, seven managers. but Does Ferguson count? Are you more of an intern manager? Interim, yeah. Okay, fine. We'll say five. We'll say five. We'll be fair to them. And can you count Frank Lampard really as a manager? yeah I mean, if you count Wayne Rooney, then you've got to count Wayne Murphy.
00:29:03
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Has he been sacked yet, Wayne Rooney? Has he had an awful start? Don't be with this club at the moment. You know, that's so funny. I was watching, um, Amazon would get him out of me yeah and he's wife's on there. No. he of ah but Yeah, she's on there. I didn't really watch the whole thing, but yeah then off the after part went in, the hotel and then their family speaking. And then, um, yeah. And then I was like, oh, i'm really not there. And then my uncle was like, yeah, because they need to stay in the chance of getting job. That's why.
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i he he like he disc got me got pressure He's doing so badly his job he couldn't go meet his missus in Australia. Oh, that's that's what he knows that's gone wrong in there um it should be right but um I think that'll do us for today. This has been it's actually been a really fun tactics Tuesday Thank you very much. Josh as always for joining us. It's been a pleasure having you with us and um We'll be back tomorrow with our wild card Wednesday It'll probably be me and Josh again with a Josh with a with a Josh with a game and inspired It's been a long day for both of us with a game inspired by our very own Josh Duncan
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So we'll see you then. All right. Until then, take care and have a great day. Goodbye.
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