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Can You Heal Your Mind? Jonathan Ramalho on Psychosis, Longevity & the Power of Presence
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What if living well isn't about living longer, but living more fully? Jonathan Ramalho shares the powerful story behind Beyond the Pill—from searching for the secrets of longevity to facing psychosis and finding his way back to himself. We explore mental health, healing, purpose, community, and the simple daily habits that can help us feel more present, connected, and at peace.
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00:00:00
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It's so quiet here. It is, it's good. I like silence.
DMT Experiences and Silent Retreats
00:00:03
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I was looking at a silent retreat to the extent that you have retreats in the darkness. So you can go into a cave and they also facilitate meals. So then they look after you, but within ah confined area and confined room, it's complete darkness. And I think you can do this for like seven days to 30 days. And it also triggers a lot of
00:00:31
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DMT and... What's DMT? So DMT is created from dreams, right? So we all produce a very macro dose. It's a small dose that's produced when we sleep in our pineal gland and there's evidence now showcasing that we also produce a macro dose when we die.
00:00:55
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It's also the an active compound in ayahuasca, which is what I had with the shamans in South America. I remember from the documentary Beyond the Pill, but first of all, let me see who's here. Yeah, yeah
Jonathan Ramalho on 'Beyond the Pill'
00:01:08
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let's do it. i cast it either I'm joined today by Jonathan Ramalho, founder of the Longevity Network and creator of Beyond the Pill documentary, which is coming out on Amazon Prime. Through his work, Jonathan explores the future of health longevity and what it means to take a more preventative approach to wellbeing.
00:01:28
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It's fascinating with the documentary because going back three years ago when this idea was birthed, I wasn't necessarily sure how it would manifest.
00:01:40
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And throughout this journey, being able to identify what really moved the needle forwards within longevity and having my unique experience from my own practices within longevity and the access to very advanced practitioners and my own personal experience. It's been really interesting to see how it's come about. I never really set out to do the documentary about myself and also including the type of people that we have.
00:02:15
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But it's been a very fruitful and meaningful and very profound manifestation that has striked a chord for a lot of people. We were just talking before the introduction about a slight silent retreat, which I'm not sure if it was recorded or not. So it would be nice to get into it again because it's such an interesting thing that you mentioned and what we get out of
Media's Influence on Childhood Development
00:02:40
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that. I've heard about silent retreats and what they really awaken in us and it's kind of like...
00:02:47
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terrifying in a way like before you've experienced it because in the world we live in it's it's not something that we're we're close to as human beings Absolutely, it's fascinating because we grew up in this experience, if you will, being programmed at such a young age. For example, when you're trying to get a kid's attention in front of the screen, everyone knows that they ignore you and it's not out of choice. This is a very intense experience that the child is going through. They're essentially being hypnotized and what that looks like is the amount of frame rates per second that is flickering that captures the attention and the mind of a very vulnerable brain that's developing that can't compute and be aware that someone is essentially trying to request for their attention so it's very
00:03:43
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serious in terms of the risks that we're dealing with. And it's not necessarily known in terms of the side effects. And we are aware of the terms that are used, for example, when you put on the TV and you choose what program to watch is essentially in front of us, right? So then we also have the upper hand to be intentional of what programs we want to install. And we're all aware of ai And we get to question what is our own algorithm, right? What is our own operating system?
00:04:21
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And how do we protect ourselves from what we would deem predators? You know, we had to... be mindful of a tribe from another town for our survival or you know the lions and the elephants that may endanger our our tents at night right our camps whereas nowadays we have some of the most sophisticated scientists that have engineered and architect ways for our attention our attention is a commodity
00:04:57
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And this is what we're up against, right? So then it's so fruitful, one, being aware of that, and two, being able to utilize that in in a way that can serve you.
00:05:08
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when it comes to influencing, for example, everything is about getting attention, monetizing attention, right? Making money out of attention. your documentary touched on mental health and it's something that I'm very passionate about because I've struggled with it myself.
00:05:26
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I want to ask you, how much
Mood as a Biomarker for Longevity
00:05:28
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of mental health issues do you think are actually about our disconnect from ourselves? Connection is everything. It's essentially one of the key biomarkers that I've distilled as mood right so when we're looking and we're measuring all of these different biomarkers I've simplified it in a way that I look at my mood which is also not just a connection other people a sense of belonging but it's a connection to self
00:05:58
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And I think it's critical because having that connection will impact all of the other factors in longevity. And in the film, what we've done is broken it into three phases.
00:06:11
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So we go to recovery, performance and prevention, because from my own experience, I've discovered that performance is a byproduct of recovery. The more I've recovered, the more I'm going to perform.
The Four Pillars of Longevity
00:06:25
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and the more I perform the more it's going to benefit prevention and the four pillars that we look at is sleep, food, mood and move.
00:06:37
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These are all ways that we can simplify and understand how we can essentially reach our full potential and we question why would I want to reach my full potential and I've come up
00:06:55
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As a child, craving my my grandparents' attention, right? I really wanted to play with them. And after my granddad had suffered a stroke, I realized that my most successful way to get him to play with me was to get him angry.
00:07:12
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right and that would conjure up enough energy for him to chase me around the house right so as a kid i was ecstatic i was excited i was like success i've got him to move he's chasing me right so as ah as a young boy it's super exciting and you start to understand what makes someone tick right how how does behavior shift and what do you need to do to influence behavior so psychology has been a very fascinating domain for me because i've always been interested to understand how a mind works to understand myself better and to understand others better
00:07:55
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And my coach and Espiritu is being instrumental to to help me understand my relationship with myself and the frameworks that she uses, for example, being a mirror, right? So we're all mirrors with each other.
00:08:10
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And the science is also fascinating when we look into mirror neurons, like being in front of a person that tends to be something within neuroscience that we start to manifest and wire these mirror neurons which is incredible and it's not something you necessarily learn at school so having a opportunity to heal yourself having an opportunity to reach your full potential I'm not saying in a narcissistic way at all I'm saying in a way to honor yourself and honor a higher purpose, whether it's God, whether it's nature, whether it's your love for for yourself and the world.
00:08:53
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And by serving yourself, you'll be able to serve others, right? And the difference is the energy and the presence that you bring to the table. and the decisions that you make are essentially what you become and that really helps to set the standard in the room and it shows your level of contribution contribution um there's something about success and a few people on the documentary talk about success and what success is and why our idea of success might be a little bit skewed we're dealing
00:09:30
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with a society that is incredibly sophisticated. We need to give ourselves enough grace to understand that
00:09:40
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We're up against entertainment that has been weaponized, right? And what I mean by that is not just the political agendas
Media Risks Compared to Smoking
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at play, I'm just saying your mind. Your mind is a very, very attractive place, but it's also very vulnerable.
00:09:56
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And that comes bit with a lot of risk. For example, you would be way more happy, way more peaceful if you didn't watch horror movies at night.
00:10:07
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Right? it' It's so simple that we've made it hard for ourselves and we're not aware of the risks. For example, if you buy a cigarette pack, at least you can start to see these signs that it creates cancer and you know, you have these very disturbing images on there. But when you watch a film on Netflix or on Amazon or any platform including YouTube, you're not being sure the risks that it can have and it's very
00:10:40
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dangerous to to live in the society that parents are also very much going through the challenges of raising children that are very expensive on their energy as well so they tend to lean on to entertainment and that's where it starts to build that addiction or that habit or that routine that you tend to build within your life and you see what the norm is I'm not against entertainment at all, but I'm saying it's a tool and it's been misused.
00:11:13
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The generation nowadays grows up very differently. When I was growing up, there was no there was no there were no phones, there was no YouTube. there was the TV and even the TV, you kind of have a very limited use with it because it's there. You have to turn it on. It's one TV in the house. There's like rules around it. Some someone else will come and watch the news and then you have to go. so you know, you can't just do this like 24 seven what we do right now with the phones or, you know, like scrolling on anything.
Dopamine's Role in Behavior
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The brains of the generation now, they're kind of built differently.
00:11:51
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It's very dangerous because it changes your pathways. For example, dopamine. Dopamine is going to dictate your behavior or incentivize certain behavior. Now, dopamine can also drive a habit.
00:12:06
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For example, fulfillment. You do some artwork, right? And, or let's say you make dinner. right the process of making dinner choosing the ingredients putting it together the type of flavors that emerge from that the whole accomplishment and also seeing in loved ones appreciate it or yourself appreciating the work and effort that you put into it there's something very tangible and something very physical that allows you to build enough dopamine that can be sustainable in a very healthy way The challenge that we have and the course that I had done with a friend of mine, Stephen Kotler and Rian Doris, which is around flow states with neuroscience, was highlighting our dopamine addiction.
00:12:58
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And one of the exercises we done was to ask a question, why did I pick up my phone? And I started to catch myself either. i was like,
00:13:11
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oh i just picked up my phone and it was my subconscious picking up my phone i do this all the time right and i was like oh why did i pick up my phone it's like oh i'm looking for a dopamine kick i saw some influencer again uh put a view a video on youtube saying do you even remember what you saw three videos ago you don't right because you're in a loop for sure you're not awake the quality of your presence is is being awake. And to be awake, you also need to go through a process of unraveling what being asleep is. And I think the matrix is also noted to be in some degree or documentary, right? More metaphorically, because we're understanding how,
00:14:02
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we're in a loop and to break that loop you need to do a lot of work and that work is very difficult it's very challenging and it's not easy so i'm aware of of why people don't do it and are very much caught up with going out drinking, going partying, watching Netflix and chill, and I'm not hating on on that, so I'm going to make that distinction. But what I'm alluding to you awake? Are you awake are you
00:14:35
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present enough that you're able to feel your feelings not live in your feelings i don't think that's a healthy place to be think i think you want to be able to be strong enough and awake enough that you're able to feel these emotions these feelings right before I think it was the Greeks who thought emotions were these spirits that would come and go, just
Integrating Intuition and Critical Thinking
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like clouds. And thoughts are the same, right? We don't have a physical area that we store our thoughts. doesn't live inside of us, right? And there's very fascinating literature around it. and i think what we're moving towards is being in your best self which just means being a clear vessel to some degree that allows you to think with your prefrontal cortex thinking critically right feeling fully right and then being able to integrate your intuition and using these three components to make the best decisions when you can because
00:15:40
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There's different parts of the day that you have energy and the beginning of the day is where you should probably protect it the most. so That's where you have your best energy. So you want to be able to use your components that you have in order to make the best decisions because you end up being the result of your decisions.
00:16:03
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so true and that's very difficult though it's very difficult so I want to talk about how to do it actually practically what it actually means because feelings can be so overwhelming sometimes right they come in like it's like this torrent You feel overwhelmed, you lose track of what you're doing. And I'm speaking from personal experience. um You get so overwhelmed with these feelings that everything else just, you know, everything else just goes.
00:16:35
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Absolutely. So there's two areas that. One is applauding yourself to be in a position that you're feeling these feelings. There's a lot of people that numb their feelings and they're not dealing with their problems, which is essentially going to make their life a lot harder.
00:16:54
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so i think you need to applaud yourself for being receptive and having these feelings and not numbing yourself and the the main drug for that is obviously you know alcohol and then you start to get harder drugs like cocaine etc you're avoiding your feelings you're going out clubbing, if you will, or, you know, you're sleeping with other a people and you're sleeping around and there's multiple ways to distract yourself. Even working, for example, right, is another distraction ah to your feelings.
00:17:30
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The other side is living in your feelings, right? When you're just overwhelmed with your feelings and you're also in a loop. Yeah. Right. So if you're in that place, then it's also good to get out of your head and into your body and have more of a somatic experience.
00:17:51
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One of the things that we're developing is called face bath and it's essentially a way to produce similar impacts of cocaine, right? So the level of dopamine you get in cocaine is very similar to what you have with cold exposure.
00:18:10
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Right. So then you have an increase of dopamine and neuroprinophrine that is incredibly high and it gives you a very big dose of dopamine. You know, a lot of my friends in their 50s are saying, you know, that guys can't keep up because they have heart problems.
00:18:31
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Right. Due to their decisions. Mm hmm. Right. So their decision your decisions are ah very much going to be a dictator of your life. And what we have is the present moment.
00:18:43
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And what we tend to forget is where we want to end up in life. Right. Because, hey, this could be a bit fun and, you know, this is attractive or people talk about peer pressure, whereas.
Building Resilience Through Cold Exposure
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it's usually a lack of morals or a lack of discipline or a lack of resistance, right? And resilience. And this resilience is what helps you with your thoughts and helps you if you're in a loop or if you're stuck.
00:19:15
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And I think what you could do that's very simple is start to get out of your head. For example, cold exposure is is a very strong way. Also, the sauna is is a lot more beneficial to women than cold exposure from the latest studies we're seeing. And it's less aggressive. It's more inviting. Women love it, right? so With the sauna, um it's it's great to be able to get out of your mind and relax, right? And you have exercise.
00:19:46
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You want to make sure you're eating well, you're sleeping well, and talking to a friend, reading something positive. So I would say try to get out of your head. And I think you know this very well, either, as you know, if you're having a heated moment or heated experience, you never write that heated email. You sleep on it. Yeah, it's something I actually do. Sometimes I'm so quick at, if I make a decision, and I realize that, right? I'm so quick to notify people immediately.
00:20:14
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This kind of um impulsiveness, right? Yeah, it's interesting. um I think impulsiveness is fascinating, right? Because you want to reduce the filter and and it's good to some degree, but you also want to align with your North Star and identifying where that is and what your outputs look like is really going to be supportive with if you're hitting the mark or not. Right. So the more work we do on ourselves with what is our North Star? What is our value? Is it, you know, for example, for me, it was always integrity, play, loyalty. and these are these attributes that make it very easy for me to make certain decisions because i know my road is perundi and like being able to navigate through a very centered place i'm not saying it's easy at all yeah i think one of the quotes i heard recently is man makes plants god just loves Yes, it's true because sometimes, you know, you have, when you're connected to value values, it's very powerful. But then at the same time, sometimes personally, I have this moment where I'm making a decision and I'm realizing there's a part of it that's,
00:21:32
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more so you know the path of least resistance right it comes from there where it would be too triggering for me to make a decision that's too big at that particular moment but the more you change and the more you grow even the path of least resistance becomes resistant So you're kind of like, you really have to start challenging yourself at one point.
00:21:55
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And I'm experiencing this at the moment. with something It's a feedback clip, right? So for example, the path of least resistance is also identifying resistance, which is going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. in in that resistance right so once you've found it right you can also allow it to serve you because within ascension within expansion you're going to be finding the norm within a certain space that before wasn't the norm so then your path of resistance is always going to evolve and it's always going to shift right ideally it's going to go towards your north star but these are where you create certain boundaries and certain check-ins to ensure that one you're connected to yourself right connected to your higher purpose and you're being truthful not to yourself but also to others right and i think that level of integrity is what
00:22:55
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we have that will support our clarity moving forwards because people talk about a mask people talk about performing but the amount of energy it requires to have a mask the amount of energy it requires to perform is very taxing, right? So it starts to pay dividends if you do the work on yourself and going to your point and about triggering, there's a documentary, my favorite documentary, i I would probably say it's called The Work.
00:23:31
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And in prison, what they have is these group therapy sessions, right? and And they can say whatever they want to say within a confined space and usually it's a group of like eight guys. right and what you start to see is a projection of you know stepdad or you know ah someone that had triggered them in their lives and it it projects in this circle and what you see is the emotions come full circle which is how they express their themselves and from a certain trigger but the release is there and you see these grown men in prison being triggered and being able to complete their emotional cycle it's incredible and i think this is where we start to understand what masculinity looks like and what a real man looks like is and also everyone else being able to experience their emotions it doesn't need to be something that they act on but it needs to be expressed and that's the difference i'll give you an example here either about seven years ago i was doing a course i was training in therapy psychosynthesis coaching and
00:24:53
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We'd done an exercise, it was meditation, and we would have an A1 piece of paper, we'd be able to get crayons, felt tips, pencils, pens, choosing anything that you'd like, and then you'd have to paint, you know, what does your mind look and feel like, right? So we painted it.
00:25:11
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I done a river on top of a mountain and then they asked you to put the paper in front. There's eight of us. Then you step on it and then you embrace it And it felt incredible. I had these sensations going through my body, right? It's a very somatic experience.
00:25:27
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The next one was your feelings, right? And your emotions. And within this exercise, you're taught to not really think rationally. You're not essentially looking into symbolism.
00:25:39
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You're being able to be guided and tap into your subconscious and just allow that work to manifest in a visual and, you know, really surrender to this experience.
00:25:51
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So, I'm getting out of my head and I'm like, all right, buddy, you do the work, right? You tell me what you want. You know, subconscious, you're you're in you're in the lead now, right? You're taking lead.
00:26:06
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And my hand reached for black marker. was like, oh, okay, interesting. All right, stop thinking, stop thinking, right? But I'm observing. I've now become the observer.
00:26:16
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I'm observing the observer, right? And then... I saw myself drawing a black circle, but I'm not thinking why, right? I'm just observing and removing my sort of ego to to lead this experience. I really want to surrender to this moment and have my subconscious show or do this experience as they seem fit and then just like two magnets that come together right if you flip them on on the same sort of sides they repel and I could feel the energetic resistance to this black circle on the paper that I didn't want to step on and then
00:27:01
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That experience told me that I wasn't really connected to my emotions. It was a breakthrough moment. I realized like how closed I was to my emotions.
00:27:15
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That's so interesting. So, Ossie, to actually really shut down the mind for that moment, which I can't do. But just becomes practice, yeah right? Because our mind is very demanding. It's very attractive, very demanding, and it's quite aggressive on our energy. Our brain is what consumes most of our energy.
00:27:42
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literally and it takes a lot to shut it down and we have many components to it we're talking about the subconscious which is essentially what's running in the show and we have more access to it when we first wake up and when we go to sleep which is where most of the hypnosis takes place or if you want to induce yourself with certain programming then that's really key to use those two windows and what you could do is listen to something positive you could make your own meditation for yourself right and being able to listen to something at the first moment of waking up right even if you're sitting in bed is going to be a dramatic difference to if you're listening to it two hours later
00:28:30
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That's why you should also really protect it. First thing, waking up, you don't really want to listen to the news, right? You don't really want to listen to the news period, right? Not the general news. You want to be civic to your industry and you want to be tailored to getting the best insights and having a holistic way of processing what's going on into the world, but also prioritizing yourself and what you need first.
00:28:56
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for me the morning is really powerful how you um wake up and you know what you see what you do immediately after within the next let's say hour or two right like like you said not scrolling on instagram or um just having like maybe nice music and looking at nature coffee that's very meditative for me visualization would be great in the morning as well because it kind of again it sets you in the right mindset another thing i love is not just visualization it's emotionalization feeling the emotions of what you want your day to to feel like yeah it's a energetic signature right and being able to live in it is is essentially very similar to actually living in it Right.
00:29:50
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And it encompasses that energy that starts to become familiar and you do what's familiar to you. Right. And that's the difference of being used to to a certain energy and being comfortable and being prepared to handle the path of least resistance. I think someone told me yesterday or this week, you can only get in life what you're ready to handle.
00:30:19
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That's it. Like, no matter what you want, you can only have what you're prepared for. There's theories in life as well that the same lesson keeps occurring until you're able to overcome it. And one of the great things that my coach and spiritual done with myself was identifying what's one step for your nervous system to expand. And we're not necessarily given that context, which is identifying where are you within your nervous system and what it's one leap that isn't going to
00:30:53
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provide the anxiety that's going to make it too much resistance. So identifying one area that you can help increase the expansion of your nervous system is a very healthy
Balancing Challenges with Nervous System Capacity
00:31:09
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approach. Whereas what we are essentially exposing ourselves to is usually leaps that are too uncomfortable, too anxiety inducing, because we're not necessarily aware of our own nervous system and we're not given the right sort of understanding on how to protect it and the damages if you know we do something too ambitious or you know too much of a risk it needs to be calculated and also collaborative with your nervous system
00:31:44
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Yes, so this is what I've been experiencing currently. Something that was too big of a leap. And the thought of that caused me so much anxiety. So even if I leaped, I would live in that anxiety. So it wouldn't really be a real leap, right?
00:32:00
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And then I didn't because I realized I need to do things in a different way. Safety is key, right? And Google done an experiment with identifying what is the most common traits within all of the top successful teams in the world. And it was psychological safety. Psychological safety is essentially a area or a environment that is conducive to fail and for that to be not necessarily celebrated but for that to be okay you're not going to lose a job if you failed right and that safe container the psychological safety is what set teams apart and i think this is the same with relationships right i think relationships whether it's love relationships or whether it's just friends in general and i think having a psychological safety um environment is allowing you to really experiment, really allowing you to express yourself and going back into not having trapped emotions, wearing masks and, you know, being scared of your triggers. I think this is where you have space to identify your triggers, right? And explore it. You have space to allow your emotions to
00:33:16
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be completed for it to be released, right? And going back into an idea of what a man or a boy should should look like or act like and, you know, crime was a sign of weakness, whereas now I think it's been reframed, right? Like I think crime is so powerful. and it's one of our ways of expressing ourselves and it's a path of evolution and i think seeing that in a man is very attractive because you're evolved being and being able to celebrate that shows your your power and this is where we're trying to remove the mask so we can be our most authentic self
00:33:59
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and there's a frequency board right so within this frequency board we start to see how humans are evolved within a certain frequency and we have you know what we believed loved to be one of the highest frequencies whereas only recently did we realize that it's actually authenticity and this is where we remove the mask and this is where we're not scared to cry you know this is where you know we're being our our best selves if you will Best selves is just a byproduct of being yourself. And being yourself is a path of doing the work to remove all of the stuff that didn't serve you, including the programs that may have came from your parents, from school, from TV, from, you know, very well-funded organizations and corporations. you know like Cadbury's lobbying the diabetes foundation and you know this is the world that we live in and it's okay but it's not okay not to be aware of it right like you're having fake chocolate you're not eating real chocolate you know real chocolate is cacao you know raw cacao is the best for you it tastes different yeah it tastes different sure it might be a bit bitter right but you know royalty used to to trade in cacao right going back hundreds of years ago and you know they used to even have psychedelics with cacao and you're talking about not necessarily just these but royalty right so our history also highlights things that feel like it's coming full circle again
00:35:26
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yeah I've done a few one was a Kundalini activation and that had a cow and then a different experience at a therapy retreat which also had a spiritual side to it to kind of you know ease you into things and that had a cacao active activation as well so it is very much used in that and one of the cacaos I didn't drink the other one was like yes but then was like oh very tasty actually
00:35:57
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but yeah it's um it's very interesting how you said we are coming back to that it's a full circle and there is this moment at the beginning of the year I think I read it was an astrological thing about this year being just super turbulent things being like up and down changing I think we need to sit with ourselves, right? We're living in a very fast-paced world, but the reality is that is not our nature.
00:36:24
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Our nature is very present, right? There is no future. There is no past. We think of death as being in the future, whereas we have death in the past.
00:36:35
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The years that have gone by is essentially death. And being in the present moment is what we're going to have in the future. It will be now. Time is ah it's an illusion right it's a form of measurement that is very helpful for us to process a certain reality and i want to go back to your point talking about community right and loneliness and it's interesting because i think it's been floated around within the longevity circles and one of the things being the most underrated undervalued
00:37:11
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part is community whereas i think it can't be just community it needs to be community stacked with empowerment stacked with certain morals that also allow enough authenticity that people will call you out on your bullshit and people will pick you up right but if you don't have community that they're not gonna call you out on your bullshit, they're not gonna hold your hand and pick you up, then it might be a disservice to you, right?
Community's Role in Empowerment
00:37:46
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You might get stuck in your mask, you might get stuck within certain trigger points and not being able to break through that and evolve.
00:37:56
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And you might be better off alone that way. I might be a comfort zone, right? Because if because the people around you, you change with them, or you should be changing with them, right?
00:38:09
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And the more you change, the more people who are aligned with where you're going. you should have around you so if that's not happening perhaps it is a comfort zone 100 so osmosis is essentially where you're going to be soaking up a lot of stuff towards your subconscious right you're not aware of it but we're all influenced and this happens in media you start to relate yourself to the hero even if the hero is not a good person you start to see yourself in them right so then once we've studied media and we're aware of that
00:38:45
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we are so vulnerable that we're not aware of the programming or the values that are being injected within our subconscious because we can't guard ourselves that way, right? That's the difference here. It's not as if, you know, we're talking about something to accept cookies or, you know, don't have the sugar. It's more what's happening due to your environment that you won't be able to stop.
00:39:13
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So deciding that environment and being very conscious of the good and the bad or what you want, because you're going to be a byproduct of that environment. So you can't necessarily go on this path of longevity or this path to reach your, you know, full self, if you will, or path of discovery. If you're not taking in the environment, speaking to some of the top longevity investors in the world and realizing that a lot of the money is going into biotech.
00:39:44
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We've gambled in a very individual way. And what I mean by that is within all of these new therapies that are undergoing these clinical trials or getting FDA approvals and getting funding, it's not countering the fact that our environment is very toxic.
00:40:07
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Regardless of how fit and healthy you are, what I've learned with Beyond the Pill and my own journey is is going through a stage of different components one component was thinking that Psychedelics seemed to be the best solution that we had for mental health, right?
Personal Journey and Mental Health Solutions
00:40:27
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I went on that expedition to figure out, is this something I could advocate for?
00:40:34
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I went to South America, I spent time with shamans, done my own due diligence, read the clinical papers, read the books, learned about DMT, read about shamanism, and was recommended to to do this with this particular shaman. I came back to London diagnosed with schizophrenia.
00:40:51
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I lived in a psychiatric ward. So that was my experience from ayahuasca thinking this was the solution to mental health and actually, you know, falling right at the bottom of what mental health looks and feels like. And it wasn't a six hour experience it wasn't a two day experience it was literally months that i'm living within psychosis thinking i found what could be the solution to what was costing the global economy one trillion dollars each year which was depression and anxiety
00:41:28
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and how that could basically give everyone on the planet clean drinking water 40 times over. That to me was the biggest problem that I seeked out to solve. And I came back from trying to find that solution, which was the psychedelics and ayahuasca and spending time with shamans due to their clinical studies and showcasing that was the most successful rate for depression and anxiety. And I came back to London with schizophrenia and on my journey it's been very rewarding to showcase that it's possible to heal schizophrenia and is why we made beyond the pill we wasn't necessarily sure how it would manifest but this is the story of beyond the pill because So many families, so many people need to know that it's possible and what the path looks like. And we have Wim Hof, we have Davina Taylor, Marissa Peer, so many amazing people. My coach as well, who's featured inside her to showcase this transparency of someone who is able to recover and showcasing that they're not the only one.
00:42:38
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Just like Roger Bannister, right? Once he broke the four minute mile, so many other people did as well. So that's the the mission. Thank you so much. And it's an incredible documentary.