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White Christmas
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Emma and Katie are dreaming of a White Christmas! This week, we’re sliding into White Christmas with jazz hands, questionable military logic, and enough harmony to melt snow on contact. Bing Crosby is crooning, Danny Kaye is doing the absolute most, and every emotional problem is apparently solved by putting on a show in Vermont. We are dive into Bing's creepily blue eyes, Vera's inane dance moves and how that Buttermilk-Liverwurst combo should NOT be a bedtime treat.
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And that's okay, because I don't think people need to hear about my train escapades. Probably not. It's a Christmas miracle. That's for your other podcast, train escapades. Train escapades.
00:00:12
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Trainscapades. Trainscapades. Trainscapades. Choo-choo. Like the icecapades. Exactly. Whatever happened?
00:00:22
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It just occurred to me that icecapades is a pun on escapades. It is? Yeah, Ice Capades, Escapades. I thought it was just a fun title for a show on ice. Christmas. Yeah, I mean, me too, until just now. like I was like, what is a capade? Because there's ice capades. Oh, no. It's a pun on escapades.
00:00:46
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Not the smartest person in the world. um ah You know, it's early. We're doing a podcast in the morning. Yeah.
Emma's Culinary Adventure: Kenai Dip
00:00:54
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Here i are. was last night. Oh!
00:00:58
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had at We had an impromptu potluck at a at game night at my friend Rachel's house. Oh, fun. I made Kenai dip. Do you know what that is? Oh, no. I've never heard of that. What is that? No, nobody does. I hadn't heard of it either. It is a smoky cheese dip ah from Alaska.
00:01:17
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oh Apparently, it's very popular in Alaska. It is basically like, it's similar to pimento cheese, um You know how much I love pimento cheese. I was going to say, I'm actually surprised that you didn't bring pimento cheese. But now that you say that it's similar to pimento cheese, this is okay.
00:01:35
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So like it is, i mean, it tastes very different, but texturally it's similar. So it is... um It's I made my own mayonnaise, but mayonnaise. I'm sorry. Humble brag. You made your own mayonnaise. OK, i sort everybody else said making mayonnaise is not hard. It's just eggs and olive oil. like Yeah, but one time I made it it was gross. yeah a So um and then garlic and um smoked paprika And a bunch of jalapenos, serrano peppers,
00:02:12
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um ah and what else? Something else. um And then a bunch of cheese. And then you like kind of fold it all together to where it's like a big cheese, kind of like a solid, like pimento cheese. Yeah. and then Oh, and a little liquid smoke. um ah So it's very smoky. The whole apartment smells like smoky, garlicky right now. It smells really good.
00:02:35
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Oh, nice. Smokey garlicky. made it last night while watching this movie. Nice. yeah I love that. And we, you know, we both knew that we were watching this movie from the text messages.
00:02:50
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At first, Emma didn't realize that Katie was watching this movie because Katie just sent Emma a few audio voice memos. Well, how do you like that? Not so much as a kiss my foot or have an apple.
00:03:06
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Of not even a B character, but like a C character in this movie. And I was like, what is happening? Some would say the best character in this movie. Did Katie have a stroke? Like, what is happening? Mutual, I'm sure.
00:03:23
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And then, of course, as I'm watching it later, I'm like, oh. Yeah. This is what Katie was doing this time. of Yeah, she's like, she's very like Lena Lamont, basically. She's very Lena Lamont. Singing in the rain, yeah. Yeah, she's Lena Lamont. Not evil.
00:03:42
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Well, Lena Lamont, I feel like she has her own, she's not evil, evil. She's just washed away with the Hollywood machine. Yeah.
00:03:53
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And that's my first of...
00:03:57
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My first paragraph to Emma's thesis on Lena Lamont, Hidden Hero? oh no. No. no, no. no i'm not backing up that hypothesis. Listen, that's my favorite movie of all time. And I would, i try to give Lena Lamont um like the benefit of the doubt every time. And every time she just pays me off.
00:04:21
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I know. I know. can't stand him. They are mean to her. It's not her fault. are mean to her. It's not her fault. She's stupid. But, you know, because as someone who has to work with stupid people sometimes, as everyone does, is very frustrating when someone is just stupid.
00:04:42
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Yeah. Yeah. It is very frustrating when someone is just stupid. But she's also trying to survive as a woman in the 20s. I know. Who just living off of her own income. Give the girl a break.
00:04:58
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But she's she is ah you know she's not giving anything to Kathy Seldon. like she's ah She's not a girl's girl. she's ah She turns on her. yeah that's That's true. You got stick together.
00:05:08
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can't stand him. yeah People who don't know Singing in the Rain have no idea what we're talking about. They're like, that is what is happening? That is not the movie we are talking about. Yes. It is both Emma and Katie's favorite films. ah That and The Money. your favorite movie too? don't think you mean that. It's one of my favorites. I can't name a favorite specifically, but it's definitely in the Windows circle. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:38
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Like I can watch that movie anytime, anywhere. freaking love it. And I will. And I will. I forced, um, when we did, a so friend and future and past guest of the pod, Madison Smith, when, um, we did summer spooks and then we tried to transition it to like musical March. Oh, fall follies, fall follies, fall follies. And, um, ah my pick was singing in the rain and I got to do my little, a little speech before it. And then we all watched it and it was a good time.
00:06:14
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We never got to pick. I, well, my pick was going to be sing street, uh, because, um, wait, what did, did COVID happen? Is that what happened? I think COVID COVID was already happening, but I think COVID just got worse.
00:06:27
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Yeah, that's what it was. And so we ended up canceling them. Um, Because this was like 20, it was was fall of 2021. Yeah, 2021, yeah. Was that when the um Epsilon variant or whatever it was? Not Epsilon, what was it? I can't even remember what their names were. Yeah. um Yeah, so, well, originally my pick was Singing in the Rain, and Madison said you can't do Singing the Rain. Emma's already picked Singing in the Rain. Yeah.
00:06:52
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Yeah, I was going to do the ah musical masterpiece Sing Street was my thing. Yes, which is great. And do love it. And maybe if we do love that movie so a musical month, we can do Sing Street. Because there is some rom in there.
00:07:06
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Absolutely. Yeah, Sing Street is is romantic and a comedy, if not necessarily a rom-com. Yeah, exactly. Love Sing Street. Love it. And I know, and we missed out on In an the Apocalypse.
00:07:20
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I think Theron picked that, um which Madison hates. I have never seen it. I love it. i think it's so great. It's a Christmas movie. It's Christmas zombie musical?
00:07:32
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Yeah. It's great. it is someone who wrote a zombie musical, when that came out, I got a bunch of text messages about it. It's super fun. I enjoy it. Charlie loves it. And Madison hates it.
00:07:46
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And... um Also, I think someone had also picked The Labyrinth and it was going to be the first time Charlie had ever seen The Labyrinth. He still has not seen The Labyrinth. Charlie hasn't seen The Labyrinth? Charlie lived under a rock for much of his life. That rock was being called England. He was not a movie guy, I guess. like He was not a movie guy. I'm surprised that you like Labyrinth because of your hatred of the 80s and poor people.
00:08:13
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I didn't say I liked it. Oh, come on. I don't know.
00:08:19
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Also, it is not poor people. it is very well done um jim Henson puppetry. Yeah, but they're like little sewer monsters. They're trash the trash beasts. you know And beautiful gowns.
00:08:37
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Jennifer Connelly is firmly upper middle class, I suppose. Exactly. no I don't know. No, no. no They're like, they're they're not upper middle. They're maybe middle class. Yeah. Like, they have a house, but, you know.
00:08:51
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I mean, she looks fancy enough and- she She goes and gets a gown. And you don't spend that much time in her house. um i i My sister loved Labyrinth.
00:09:04
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I like it. It's not something that like I'm going to be like, I have to watch the Labyrinth right now. um It's only merely because I only really like one song in it.
00:09:15
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And then I feel like David Bowie. Magic dance. oh Okay, correction. I only like two songs in it. Well, there's only like four songs in the whole movie. I like Dance Magic Dance and I like um have the the one about the babe. Have you heard about the babe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same song.
00:09:35
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Oh, it is? Oh, then I like Dance Magic Dance. There you go um ah The um Well hold on I mean how many songs are in Labyrinth I haven't seen Labyrinth in a long time Right I would also like to point out that when I said that you don't like the eighty s or poor people you didn't say that's not true you said they're not poor
00:09:59
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um Can I be specific in that I don't like 80s poor people It's not better not better not better that's not true i i don't dislike poor people and i i am neutral on the 80s oh yeah that's a shame um yeah there no no there are other songs there's other songs yeah because there's like a bunch they just all sound the same because it's all just david boy going ah hurrah ah yeah it's very 80s bowie um it's not his best look um ah but um but yeah dance magic dance is great I remember seeing him as a child and being confused because I thought he was so attractive, but I didn't know if it was a he or a she, and I was okay with that.
00:10:48
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Yeah. that's I mean, that's kind of his deal. Yeah. I mean, less so than a lot of other people in the 80s, but yeah, for sure. There was some androgyny there. yeah More in the 70s than the 80s for Bowie, but yeah. But like specifically in Labyrinth.
00:11:05
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Oh, for sure. In Labyrinth. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah Being like, i don't know if this is a boy or girl and that doesn't matter. he is very sexy or they are very sexy. ah Based of you. ah
00:11:21
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i feel like I'm just constantly canceling myself on this podcast. ah No, I'm trying to cancel you and failing. That's what's happening.
00:11:33
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Hooray! Amazing. Yes. That's an excellent segue. Canceling. Canceling.
00:11:43
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Indeed. Because there's lots of canceling in this movie. Canceling of Lance. Hey, Thomas. No. Thomas, stop it. Hey, hey. I'm going to cancel you. You're chewing on the wrong thing.
00:11:55
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Thomas.
00:11:58
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Last time this happened, she didn't even cut it out.
00:12:04
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cannot chew on that thing. This is his very fancy video game headphones. He needs these to hang out with friends. Moving you. Okay, here we go.
00:12:18
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And we're back. Alright, and we're back. His video game headphones. He needs this to hang out with friends.
00:12:29
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He was chewing on like the little like thingy. The little microphone that like flips down, you know? Yeah. And I was like, but Charlie needs his friends. Let dad have friends.
00:12:44
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Boy, oh boy. oh boy. Anyways. ah That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is ah go get your ho, hoes slash go get your girl.
00:12:59
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ah This is the podcast where Emma and Katie are two successful
00:13:09
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singer-songwriter people who ah have a very fantastic show and were legends. um One of the rare instances where ah the the movie actually does feature two female protagonists and you've placed us as the boys. yep yep yep Because it's the better it's the I mean what am I going to say This is the podcast where Emma and Katie Are two sad sack sisters Who Who have like a show That's not really going anywhere We do a floor show and we got another job For another floor show in Vermont We run in and one of us writes a letter To one of our brother's Old army buddies Trying to convince them because they're super famous So that they can come see our show
00:13:57
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And then, oh I don't know, hijinks ensue and somehow we're all going up to Vermont and we're all flirting together and we get to Vermont and wouldn't you know it, there's no snow because of global warming.
00:14:13
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Yeah. In 1954. uh, and so we also realized that the guys seem to know the guy running the inn. And he happened to be their army general. And, uh, they really want to help him because he was their army general. And so he's like daddy. And, ah So we have to help daddy and we then decide as a group that we're going to put on their Broadway show in Vermont. And so we're going to hire, bring all the actors who they have paid ah week's long vacation wages, um, to come back up extra money and do this show in Vermont, uh, to know people, but hopefully that we will bring people, um, and then more hijinks ensue.
00:15:03
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That's right. Uh, I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. um Paying all those actors to come up on Christmas Eve costs somewhere between ouch and boing, boing, boing, boing. Yep. Because I'm like, where are they getting all this money?
00:15:20
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i mean, I guess they're very rich. Yeah, so this, were talking about White Christmas, 1954.
00:15:29
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Should also point out that these two men are literally twice our age. Yes, they are. And nobody questions it for one second. And how old were um Rosemary Clooney and what's her name? We'll get there. Okay. Right Christmas, 1964, directed by Michael Curtiz, who, legendary Hollywood director, directed Mildred Pierce, The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood, a little film, you may have heard of it, called Casablanca.
00:15:58
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oh um written by Norman Krasna, Norman Panama, and Melvin Frank, which are like the most 1950s names I've ever heard.
00:16:12
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Normans and a Melvin. I'm kind of disappointed it wasn't three Normans. Right? Right. um So the way this worked was, um backstory on this movie. So 1942, there was a movie called Holiday Inn, which featured... For the first time, Irving Berlin song White Christmas and Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire were in that movie um along with some blackface. Oh, yikes.
00:16:40
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That is a movie about like kind of super competitive like song and dance men who are chasing the same girl and one of them steals the other one from him. And then he's trying to get her back and it's a whole thing. And the other one, the sad one, Bing Crosby opens an inn that's only open on holidays. yeah it That's a moneymaker. So stupid. And so every, there's a, there's like a holiday number for every holiday. Right. And the Christmas one is of course white Christmas.
00:17:11
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Yes. An Irving Berlin song that he wrote years before and didn't publish because he didn't think it was very good. um and is the most successful ah song of all time. It's the most best-selling recording ever.
00:17:32
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And Bing Crosby is the most successful solo singer of all time, still. Still. Yeah. Is this like parentheses just Christmas or like parentheses of all time?
00:17:47
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Oh, wow. yeah um so they, that was a huge success. And then they also did Fred Astaire and Bing k Crosby in a movie called Blue Skies, which was another Irving Berlin adaptation. Irving Berlin had you know, probably the, you know, most successful songwriter of the 20th century still, and especially of the first half of the 20th century. Like the guy had hit after hit after hit, obviously. Yeah. um ah And so they kept making these jukebox musicals based on his his work because he has has some musicals, but none of them were really as successful as the jukebox stuff.
00:18:24
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Yeah. um So they wanted to remake Holiday Inn, basically, um because partially because of the blackface thing, which even then in the in the late 40s and early 50s was like, they were like, huh, that was probably a bad idea. Yeah. Yeah, it was.
00:18:46
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And also largely because it was in black and white. And so in the 1950s, movies were having to compete with television, right? Like television was literally stealing its audience, much like streaming, you know, is is is doing now. And so the movies had to come up with gimmicks to try to get people to come there. And one of those gimmicks was color.
00:19:07
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um You know, TV was in black and white. TV was very small. So... ah Big, huge screen, lot big, like, a spectacle, color, everything like that was the way to try to get people to come into the movies. So Paramount had this idea to remake Holiday air with InColor and with a new process called Vistavision.
00:19:31
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with this division which is similar to cinemascope and uh cinerama which were other like competing studios ideas of like just big screen like so big um it's so big Vista vision, uh, the innovation there was, um I watched like a little mini documentary about it. I don't really understand a lot of it because I don't under, I don't know a lot about like cameras and film projection. Yeah.
00:20:03
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Um, but part of it is, ah it increases the size of the, uh, of the film on the negative specifically, as opposed to just pushing it onto, a larger curved screen.
00:20:17
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This is put onto a flat screen and the film feeds through the projector horizontally instead of vertically, which also helps it look clearer at a much larger image, which is um unlike ah Cinerama and Cinemascope. The competing ones tended to get, you know, look more grainy and and out and out of focus the bigger they got. Because it's still on 35 millimeter. Like eventually what they would do is transfer it onto 75 millimeter or 62 millimeter or something to make, to make it clear at a bigger image. But this was still on 35 millimeter.
00:20:57
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Question is, is Vista scope? The reason why, um this sorry, is Vista vision? The reason why Bing Crosby looks, ah his eyes are so blue. He looks possessed throughout this entire movie. Yeah.
00:21:13
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He just had really blue eyes, I think. They're so freaking blue. It's certainly not, you know, CGI or anything. know it's very unsettling how blue his eyes are.
00:21:25
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Yeah, yeah. he's ah He's a strange looking man. um yeah He looks like a ventriloquist dummy, I think. He kind of does. And he's teeny, teeny, tiny. Yeah.
00:21:37
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Well, I mean, they all, I mean, I guess Danny Kaye is, is like bigger. Danny Kaye. think it's because he's always next to Danny Kaye. Because he's next to Danny Kaye. He is so much shorter.
00:21:48
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there, but there are, and there's like. Danny Kaye was six feet tall. Yeah. Yeah. Well, um Bing Crosby looks like he's four foot tall.
00:22:02
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Bing Crosby was 5'7". Okay. Which we all know means five four Yeah, pretty short. Yeah, yeah exactly. all All men add two inches to their height on their official ah IMDb's and all women subtract to it two inches. Exactly.
00:22:17
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um ah So, um yes. So it was going to be Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire. Fred Astaire thought that he was getting too old. so And then he read the script, which was by Norman Krasnack. And he's like, this sucks. I'm not doing this. And so Fred Astaire dropped out.
00:22:37
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And then they hired the great Donald O'Connor. ah Yes. the rain And from, he was in a movie with Vera Ellen ah the year before, which was a big hit, which was called something that I didn't write down. Yeah.
00:22:52
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But, um so they thought that would be fun. And they wanted to have a, um so they changed it to, from a singer and a dancer to a crooner and a comic.
00:23:04
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And so the script needed to be rewritten for Donald O'Connor. So um the Norman Panama and Melvin Frank took over writing the script. So the two of them were comedy writers um who had, um,
00:23:19
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They wrote Mr. Blanding Spills His Dream House. And they also wrote a movie called Buona Sarah, Mrs. Campbell. Oh. Which about a woman.
00:23:30
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who um lives in italy and doesn't know who the father of her daughter is and three different men come to uh the daughter's wedding to just figure out which of them is the father which if that sounds familiar to you it's a mama mia that the plot of mama mia it's a mama mia um uh
00:23:54
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You frightened your cat. Mama Mia! Oh my god. Blowing out the microphone. um ah So, i yes. So the two of them rewrote it. They said that the script was, quote, lousy. And so the two of them took eight weeks to rewrite the script completely for Donald O'Connor and and Bing Crosby.
00:24:25
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um then Donald O'Connor got Q fever Jesus from Francis the talking mule what so Francis the talking mule was like the silly like children's movie series that was in a bunch of movies Donald O'Connor was in it a movie with Francis the talking mule and he got Q fever which is like a serious infection that you could get from like sheep and and and mules and and stuff like that um basically it's just like you can uh their their their piss and shit and stuff like gets into the air and you breathe it in and it can give you q fever oh so in in pre-production like After dance rehearsals and everything had already, like, almost finished, ah Donald O'Connor gets Q fever and has to drop out of the movie.
00:25:19
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And so they have to quickly replace him with Danny Kaye. um ah And then that's... The rest is history. Yeah. You've got...
00:25:33
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Rosemary Clooney and Vera Ellen as the sisters. um And everyone's ages, which I have here. Let's go over everyone's ages. Bing Crosby is 51. Rosemary Clooney 26.
00:25:47
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yeah rosemary clooney is twenty six Jesus. Ellen is 33. Okay. Okay. is forty three and vera allen is thirty three okay um Also, we should say that Vera Ellen um is ah is a dancer and not a singer. And her voice is dubbed in this movie.
00:26:07
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There's a rumor that there was a rumor that Rosemary Clooney ah dubbed her voice herself, and that she was singing with herself. But that's not true. A woman named Trudy Stevens ah did the singing voice for Vera Ellen in all the numbers except for the ah the reprise of Snow at the train station, because that was recorded live. It's not, it was dubbed because they, and a little acapella bit when, when they get off the train, um that was, um yeah, that's all four of them singing live in the studio. Nice.
00:26:43
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Nice. I love that. And it also should be said, this is the first of Emma's fun facts, Emma's fun facts, right after Katie's so many awesomes fun facts. Yeah.
00:26:55
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Vera Ellen, ah because I did not know this until yesterday. This is actually not really an Emma fun fact. It's more of a Charlie was looking up trivia and telling me trivia as we were watching it. say If it's about Vera Ellen, it's probably a sad fact, actually. It's a very sad fact. um Well, you know, i just grew up watching this movie thinking that that's how skinny people were lived and looked in the fifty s Oh, dear. Yeah. um And...
00:27:24
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Did not realize that she was ah horrifically anorexic. um And there is a rumor that a lot of her costumes are high necked to hide her um her neck wrinkles from her severe anorexia. But that is not true. It was just a costume choice.
00:27:43
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Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. um She's so small. Her waist is insane um in this movie. I mean, she's a small person, like just stature in general. It's just very narrow shoulders and is very, and is short, but my God. It's so small.
00:28:01
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Like i felt it made me feel so bad about myself. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like you could fit your hands around her waist. And when they throw her up in the air, I'm like, is she going to come down? Yeah. um ah Yeah. So yeah, she, she had a sad life. She died young. She was very ill She had, you know, yeah, anorexia and drug addiction and a bunch of stuff that was sad. Yeah. um Sad. um ah But um boy, could she dance. Boy, she's such a good dancer.
00:28:37
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She's incredible, actually. Yes. Like, she does, she can do anything. Like, she does so many different styles of dance in this. She's like, yeah. Which is good.
00:28:50
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Because Rosemary Clooney cannot dance. Yeah. And it's very evident in the small moments when she is dancing. Yeah. When she's like doing a little shuffle. Yeah. Well, and especially like at the end number, um the boy, I wish it was back in the army number. Like she can't even, she just she just looks like she doesn't want to be there.
00:29:09
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She's a little out of rhythm on the March thing. Yeah. Yeah. And she's just like, I'm just like, Oh girl, either she's not having a good time making this movie or she can not move. Yeah, that's okay because she did have a good time making this movie. um And despite the, I mean, obviously there was nothing romantic between Bing Crosby and Rosemary Clooney, but they were very good friends and continued to be so for the rest of Bing Crosby's life.
00:29:33
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they and they They toured together. they were um Their families were really close. like they were They really loved each other. Yeah, I love that. umly yeah yeah um We should also say another fun fact.
00:29:47
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Oh, this is going to be the episode of fun facts. This is a historically yeah important film. This is also a movie that I've watched every Christmas since I was born. So I've seen it a bunch, know a lot about it.
00:30:01
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Bing Crosby's wife, Dixie, died the year before they filmed this. um And he was very um in a in a in a bad place. ah Devastated. um They were...
00:30:15
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um Very close. And he was in a and a funk at the beginning of this movie. And it was not until ah the the drag number ah where Danny Kaye kept hitting him with the the fans um that he kind of broke out of it, which was was shot early. And Danny Kaye, in an interview after Bing Crosby died, said that...
00:30:39
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It was that bit of breaking him on the set that got him like to enjoy making the movie. Oh. Opened up and and got like this, like started enjoying it because he was, you know, devastated. like Yeah. Because he was really upset. His wife died.
00:30:56
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Yeah. Oh, I love that so much. He four sons. Oh. Yeah. yeah Four sons. Well, four sons with that wife. if Like ah several years later, I think seven years later or so, he married again and had another son and I think a daughter. was going to say, and then he had another four sons. No. oh And thus starts eight rides for Bing Crosby's children.
00:31:25
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of a And obviously we should say, you know, one of his his oldest son, I believe, wrote a memoir in the 80s, which was very critical of him, um you know, saying that, you know, and Bing Crosby himself in interviews said that he was too hard on them. He was a disciplinarian. He, he you know, beat his kids, um ah which, you know, it was the 40s. That was obviously very, very popular. You know, my... yeah My parents were were hit by their by their parents, for sure. Yeah. That was like the greatest generation's parenting style.
00:31:57
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Yeah, for sure. There seems to be some disagreement between his children about um how bad it was. But um we should if we're talking about Bing Crosby and his children, we should say that. Yeah.
00:32:07
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Yeah. You know, and I mean, like, I think that's a very common thread for a lot of those um golden era of Hollywood um actors. Like, with their children. They they did did not seem like they were good, happy parents.
00:32:24
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But, um you know, I think... He had to have not been there very often, because he made, like, eight movies a year. Exactly. You know, they're they're working around the clock. They're on some sort of cocaine pill. And...
00:32:39
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Drinking martinis all day and eating liverwurst all night. Liverwurst and buttermilk. They're poor intestines. They're poor, poor bowels.
00:32:54
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Absolutely horrific. um ah So yeah, what happens in this movie? Yeah, so we open up. We are at, you guessed it, guys, what a better way to start a Christmas fun family film than World War II?
00:33:11
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So we are in World War two and it's a fun variety show. And it's,
Opening Scene of 'White Christmas'
00:33:20
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there's Bing Crosby and he's singing some songs and there's Danny Kaye. He's also there. And the general comes by and there's apparently going to be a new general in town. There's other generals. Get out of here.
00:33:33
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And he's like, I don't know. It's Kermit. What? What?
00:33:40
Speaker
No, please continue. Why are the soldiers out there? ah i don't know what it's devolved into. a Why are they partying for Christmas? Bah, Humberg.
00:33:54
Speaker
And he's like, there's no Christmas in the army. Yeah. it's a pretty sure famous thing there was there's like many famous stories of christmas in world war two yeah yeah and world war one one of our favorite um british christmas commercials is uh showing the world war one british christmas commercials what a sentence Right. It's ah the World war one ah Christmas. Night. Yeah. Silent Night where the Germans and the British ah went into dead no man's land and all played ah football or as we called here, soccer. And then the next day they all had to kill each other.
00:34:40
Speaker
So it's Christmas on the front and they are moving up. So Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye are, you know, song and dance men who are entertaining the troops, but they are the troops. It's not like an OS, um, um, a USO show or anything.
00:34:56
Speaker
They, um, and the general comes and then they sing some songs, uh, some really forgettable Irving Berlin war songs. Yep.
00:35:07
Speaker
Uh, but mostly he sings White Christmas. What you do with the, oh yeah. We start with, ah there's like a little dancing and then he sings White Christmas. And it's... With his insane eyes. it's It's just one of the best songs ever. Like, it's hard to undersell, like, big White Christmas. Like, it's a beautiful song. What can you say? yeah It's a banger.
00:35:31
Speaker
It is a banger. And his voice is so beautiful. of ah boy oh boy and it's just majestic it sounds real good um and then the general is like um so i'm leaving and there's a there's a new general who sucks who's gonna take over um ah so have fun with that uh he's injured um so i believe that he's moving out because he's injured he's walking with a cane yeah And then a bomb hits and ah Danny Kaye saves Bing Crosby's life. yeah Pulls him out of the way as ah as a piece of house collapses. Yeah.
00:36:12
Speaker
And in the meantime, he hurts his arm. And so Danny Kaye ends up in the in firmary infirmary, infirmary,
00:36:21
Speaker
where it where hurt people go in the army. You said it right. I don't know. Oh, I did? you Yeah, I was nodding. It felt weird coming out of my mouth. Um, and, uh, and as well as he's there, Bing Crosby, who before Bing Crosby was in the army had a solo act. And so he goes to check in on Danny Kaye and he's like, how's going? I do single, you see.
00:36:44
Speaker
I do a single. And he goes like, well, let me pitch you this job. It's a job for two people. And he goes, okay, well, I got a single. Who's this other person going to be? And he's like, well, I don't know. Who's this other hunk of dynamite? He says. This other hunk of dynamite. Bing Crosby ad-libbed lot of his own like jazz slang into this movie. And I love it so much.
00:37:03
Speaker
Yeah. The other hunk of dynamite. Uh, And, uh, and yeah. And, um, but Danny Kaye like, well, it's going to be me.
00:37:14
Speaker
And so I'm you and me, baby. And he's like, I don't know if this is going to work. And so then we have a little montage of their career growing. Yeah. He guilted him into doing it because he saved his life and he hurt his arm. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yeah, buddy. d Um, And, ah and so he, we get our little montage of their career and it's all like just growing and growing and growing. And they start off doing this little two person act and then it gets to be singing bigger.
00:37:48
Speaker
Singing Irving Berlin songs, which are credited to them. Like they are writing these songs and performing them is the idea. yeah and it's like, Heatwave, Blue Skies, like famous Irving Berlin songs. Yeah. One of them is Irving, the other is Berlin.
00:38:03
Speaker
Right. Yeah. ah And then um they get on the tell of on the radio shows and um
Meeting the Haynes Sisters
00:38:10
Speaker
on all the things. And then all of a sudden they're like, are they going to start producing? question mark And ah they do. They produce a musical. And that's their next big thing. And then we move our way into Florida where they're in Florida. for Why are they in Florida? I never really get why they're in Florida.
00:38:31
Speaker
So, um ah first of all, the show is ah closing. They have um they've been two years on Broadway. The show is is going to shut down for a few weeks to give everybody Christmas break.
00:38:42
Speaker
um They're going to Florida to to see an act because... um and the dog face boy. yu The dog face from their one of their army buddies.
00:38:55
Speaker
ah we have to we We have to back up a little bit because we almost forgot about Doris. um Oh my God. Danny Kaye wants to hook ah ah Bob ah Bing Crosby up with someone so bad and he's trying constantly. He tries with Doris who is Barry Chase who is still alive.
00:39:16
Speaker
um And i she she's like a dim-witted showgirl Who he says Meet meat ah um bought whatever their last name What's his last name? I don't remember um And she says Mutual I'm sure And he's like oh okay She's stupid ah goodbye yeah And never realize she says one of my favorite Lines in any movie To one of the other girls Well how do you like that without so much as a kiss my foot Or have an apple What does that mean I don't know Nobody knows Do you think she improv'd that line
00:39:59
Speaker
I don't know. i don't know. i don't know. So Freckleface Haynes, the dog face boy, who they show a picture of who looks perfectly normal, honestly. Yeah, perfectly fine.
00:40:11
Speaker
They talk about him like he's a hideous monster. Has two sisters who are doing a sister act in Florida. So they go to Florida.
00:40:22
Speaker
Yeah. To see this sister act. um And then they have this argument where Danny Kaye is like, I want you to get married and have a bunch of kids. And so I could get 45 minutes to myself. Yeah. the warning Because you work too hard and you make me work too hard and I don't want to do it anymore. Yes. um ah And he's like, well, I would like to do that, but I just never meet anybody that I, you know, connect with really like, um,
00:40:51
Speaker
And he's like, okay, well, we'll keep trying. ah And um they go to Florida and we see the sister act, which is the Han sisters. And unlike the dog face boy, their brother, they are um Rosemary Clooney and Vera Ellen.
00:41:07
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And they're beautiful. And they sing the amazingly fantastic song, uh, sisters to which Charlie likes to three times in this movie.
00:41:18
Speaker
Yep. Three times. Charlie likes to rework the words in this to sing brothers and then sing it about our cats to which he sent a video. Well, I made him do it and put it on video to send it to Katie last night. And it was great.
00:41:33
Speaker
Can you confirm? Absolutely. he is holding two cats, one in each hand up on their hind legs like a toddler would. Yep. And making them dance. And they they do not like it.
00:41:49
Speaker
They do not like it. um They look upset. Yes. But it's adorable. It is adorable. Yeah.
00:42:01
Speaker
So yeah, they sing Sisters. It's a great song. um And then ah they go and sit down and they get into like a conversation. Yeah.
00:42:14
Speaker
Danny Kaye realizes that Bing Crosby ah likes Rosemary Clooney because how do you not? i And then he likes Vera Ellen. And so they go and have this dance number, which is yeah crazy. And insane.
00:42:29
Speaker
Out on, um and that is, um what is it called? What happens when you're dancing? what happens and It happens while you're dancing. Yeah. Yeah. um And they're dancing on top of a canoe. um He's like, they're like swinging out over water. It's it yeah ah it's beautiful. And we should say um the costumes in this movie are designed by Edith Head. ah And they're fantastic. there' so we'll get We'll get to it later. But one thing to notice, first of all, is that
00:43:00
Speaker
Danny Kaye and Bing Crosby's costumes, their shoes are the same color as their pants all the Oh, didn't even notice. And their shoes are like always like suede and completely smooth on top. it's Yeah. It's very strange, but it it oh i mean it looks good when they're dancing. So I guess that's important to me. The only thing I noticed about their costumes is ah perhaps a time appropriate the thing. It's that pants were like so high. time Yeah. Men wore their pants fifty right under their nipples. Yeah. Yep. They're so high and it doesn't help Bing Crosby because he's already such a tiny man with a tiny torso. And so it's like cutting him off in a weird place. Yes. And, and yeah, yeah.
00:43:43
Speaker
Um, But yes. So, um, so you get that. And then all of a sudden you find out that the, the girls are going to Vermont.
00:43:55
Speaker
They're, they're doing a floor show. Oh, well, Katie, do you just want to lead? no. Just stop skipping things, Emma. We'll be fine. i mean What assuming? The fact that they that the landlord of like their apartment or something, there was like a so a burn mark on the rug and they owe $200 all of a sudden, but they're not going to pay it because they didn't do it?
00:44:19
Speaker
Partially, but mostly you're you're you're leaving out that Rosemary Clooney and Bing Crosby get into an argument about working an angle because we find out that- the freckle, freckle face Haynes, the dog face boy didn't actually write a letter to them, asking them to go see his sisters. Um, Vera Ellen did pretending to be him. And yeah Crosby is like, Oh, that's great. Sometimes you got to work an angle in this business. And Rosemary's Clooney is like, no, it's unethical. I'm a very moralistic person. Um, ah and I won't stand for it. And he's like,
00:44:56
Speaker
okay, that's fine. And they kind of like come at, uh, come, come at odds to one another. And meanwhile, Danny Kaye and Vera Ellen are falling in dance love because that's what happens. Um,
00:45:09
Speaker
Then the whole thing with like, they're getting run out of Miami on a rail. um yeah So Danny Kaye gives them their train tickets ah to ah to New York and they'll have they're they're going to Vermont. So we'll have to get that figured out. but um and then helps them hide and they have to do a drag number.
00:45:27
Speaker
Yeah. Because they're delaying the sheriff so they the girls can get away. So they play the record of them singing. And the two of them, in like, not full drag, but like wearing part of their costumes over there their are clothes. Yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
Lip sync sisters on stage, much to the delight of everyone. Yep. And the two of them are just laughing very genuinely throughout the whole thing. It's very cute. And that's what we we talked about. That's so cute. earlier where Danny Kaye is just making Bing co Crosby break. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:01
Speaker
Yeah. Bless.
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah. So then they they get on the train, but they don't have tickets because they gave them to the girls. And so they have to sit up all night in the club car. And Danny Kaye is like, why don't we go to Vermont? All that snow to be good for us. Bing Crosby is like, what is wrong with you? What is your deal? What's happening? Why? Why? why Why are you behaving in this manner? ah And then he figures it out because the girls are there in their supposed cabin. Yeah. Cabin A. Yeah.
00:46:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then they, uh, they sit up all night in the club car. Yeah. And they sing snow, which is such a beautiful number. And it's, uh, just four part harmony and it's fabulous. And it's just, yeah, I love it. I love snow. Snow is my favorite.
00:46:48
Speaker
Um, and it's really, really cute. Um, but then of course they arrive in Vermont and wah wah. There's no snow. there's no snow. snow. was 65 yesterday.
00:47:04
Speaker
Famous Vermont accent. Yep. Yep. that That's the guys. as They're arriving going, hey, where's all the snow? Yeah. We bring it in at night. um ah So. um They go to the inn where ah the the stern housekeeper busybody. Emma.
00:47:31
Speaker
Is it? It is. Oh, I didn't notice that. um i was like, oh, okay. She is the worst character in the film. Yeah. She is. That's why I'm not excited about it.
00:47:46
Speaker
She's like, well, we'll give you half your salary for canceling, but you know we don't have any guests because there's no yeah snow and we're like ah a resort town. It's ski hotel.
00:47:57
Speaker
Yeah. um ah So there's no point in having a floor show. And um there then they realize that the general from the first scene yeah is the owner of the hotel who has retired from the army and bought a hotel in Vermont. Yeah. Well, at first, Danny Kaye says, oh, you're a custodian?
00:48:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:20
Speaker
Because he's bringing in the firewood. Yeah. Yeah. um ah And he's like, no it's no, it's worse than that. I own the place. Yeah. Also, Charlie did bring up the fact that you cut to the sisters doing sisters on the floor show later.
00:48:36
Speaker
And there's people there. Well, yeah, but not enough to pay for them, I'm sure. You know, like. Oh, yeah. But like, you know, three or four little tables of people there. Yeah. There's there's some people there. The townies still want a floor show.
00:48:50
Speaker
So the general says, like, yo' get no, no, no, you'll still do the show um as long as you you want to. And, um you know, for however many guests we get. And they're like, okay. And then the boys are like, we're just hanging out. ah Yeah.
00:49:05
Speaker
And then they get an idea, which is one of my favorite things that happens in the 1950s, which is where... Also, it happens in the Muppet movies a lot. Yeah. ah Where... We need to save this location. We need to save this hotel or theater or whatever. And the best way to do that, you got to put on a show. Got to put on a show. Let's put on a show. That's going to bring the people in. Don't worry about all the money we're going to spend on the show. We're going to be concerned about the amount of money we're bringing in from the show.
00:49:36
Speaker
Yeah. ah They need to save the hotel and the general yeah by putting on a show. So they decide to bring their Broadway show and paying everybody to come up to Vermont and put on their big show which on Christmas Eve. They have promised this whole, this giant cast of like, what is it? Like 30, 40 people.
00:50:04
Speaker
yeah easily And that's just the actors. Exactly. They've promised and paid for them to have a week off for Christmas. So really, this seems really sweet on the outside, but when you think about it, they're forcing 30 to 40 people to cancel their Christmas plans, not go home and see their loved ones, forcing them to go back to work in a new place in a different state that they are not familiar with and forcing them to work.
00:50:36
Speaker
Well, here's the thing. I mean, they do say they're going to pay them double and that they are, and that they don't have to do it. um You know, obviously there, it is volunteer based. But again, it's that, it's, you know, it's that thing. Like this is only 10 years after, less than 10 years after the war ended. Like it is still very much like, you know, we're doing it for the general. Like it's, they're all the army buddies, right? It's very like,
00:51:03
Speaker
there's a There's a lot of like patriotism like slash jingoism in this in this movie that is, you know, not great. But, you know, World War II is the one where you can kind of get away with that, I guess. Yeah.
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um But still, I mean, what if these people wanted to go and spend time with their family, but like they had to choose between money and family and yeah your family?
00:51:31
Speaker
Way to go, Bing Crosby. Plus, you don't want to piss off Bing Crosby. Yeah. Exactly. So they put on a show. Everybody shows up. The first thing they do is the menstrual number, which... Yeah. what likes um which Luckily, it's not in blackface.
00:51:50
Speaker
It's not in blackface, but, you know, part of Irving Berlin's like twenty s and 30s like ah music was was menstrual numbers, which, you know, they did. i mean, the first movie with sound is about a blackface, you know, menstrual performer. Like it was very, very big. um ah And that's a that's a shame.
00:52:14
Speaker
Yeah. So there's a lot of like, boy, we miss the minstrel show days. um and And, call out by name, several a famous minstrel performers and talk about the the tropes of the minstrel show, you know, Mr. Mr. Bones, the interlockter, like um that sort of thing. And yeah, And then they have ah this the song Mandy, which is a big dance number for Vera and Ella, which is insane.
00:52:46
Speaker
And they throw her around like she's a just a frickin', I was going to say a sack of potatoes, but she weighs less than a sack of potatoes. Yeah, like a pillow. a pillow.
00:52:57
Speaker
Up and down the steps. yeah and um And here is another bit of um Practicality in filmmaking. So Donald O'Connor had rehearsed all these all these dance numbers with Vera Ellen and because you know he's a great dancer. yeah Danny Kaye, while he can dance, didn't have time to to learn these these numbers before they had to film them because they were on a tight schedule and he literally had come into the production very late.
00:53:29
Speaker
So they had, ah John Brascia, uh, who is the, uh, Vera Ellen's dance partner in most of these numbers. That's the guy is do the dancing because, ah originally it was supposed to be, um Donald O'Connor, but, um, Danny Kay didn't have time to learn the the dances. So they just had the, um,
00:53:50
Speaker
the dance captain basically fill in and, ye ah and do these days. And he's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. but um And then of course also there's, um so there's George to curious is in this movie ah famous for playing Bernardo and West side story. He won Oscar for that. He is in a couple of these dances. um Most, most notably in Rosemary Clooney's number um later on ah the lover. You didn't do right by me. Yeah.
00:54:21
Speaker
Yeah, her real dramatic sassy number. Yeah. um So they have this huge, like, just the menstrual number is like... It's to be like huge. Yeah. Maybe like eight minutes long or so going into Mandy. And then it just cuts back to the general, the housekeeper and the general's granddaughter. They're the only audience just clapping. Yeah. Yay. To this full production in costume, in lights, in like all the things.
00:54:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um And then we have the liverwurst and butler buttermilk seed. Yep. Yep. Because Bing Crosby can't sleep and neither can Rosemary Clooney. And so they meet up in the kitchen and they... I can't even... It's so gross.
00:55:09
Speaker
I don't know. My grandmother used to have buttermilk, um which I assume was mostly for cooking. don't think she drank it, but it was always in the kit in the in the refrigerator and it always grossed me out. Yeah. Yeah, because like here's the thing. Here's the thing of what buttermilk is. So when you make butter, you essentially, you're whipping cream until it separates. Like you go past whipped cream until the cream separates from like so that you get the the milk fat. Curbs and whey. Yeah, exactly.
00:55:41
Speaker
um And so you have the fat from the cream and then you have all the like liquid. The protein of the whey. The protein, yeah. And so the fat is butter.
00:55:52
Speaker
And then the protein of the whey is your buttermilk. And it's, um you use it in baking. You use it in cooking. ah You still use it quite often. My mom will always have it. um I've used stuff like buttermilk.
00:56:07
Speaker
Protein powder for bros. Yep. Use it for protein powder for bros. um But also like, cause it is of acidic. There's an acidity to it because in order to recreate it, like, cause I've not had buttermilk on hand. So a substitute is to do like cream with like, I want to say like lemon juice or vinegar and that recreates what is needed in buttermilk to to do the science of what you need but like it's so it's like sour yeah it's not good so like why it smells terrible and it smells terrible so why are you drinking it
00:56:53
Speaker
Uh, cause you're a freak. You're a real 1950s freak. Uh, why are you eating liverwurst also? Yeah. Gross. Two bad tastes taste bad together. Yeah. That's straight diarrhea right there. Yeah.
00:57:08
Speaker
Um, they have this like, they're like romantic conversation about, you know,
The 'Choreography' Number Discussion
00:57:15
Speaker
dreams and, um, he sings count your blessings, which is a very sweet song. uh,
00:57:22
Speaker
And it's like a very little romantic, like, ooh, is something going to happen kind of scene? Yeah. um And then we have, ah so the idea is that they're going to go on the Ed Harrison show, which is Ed Sullivan, basically. Yep. Yep. That's what I told Charlie. And he constantly was like, who's Ed Harrison? Ed Harrison doesn't exist.
00:57:46
Speaker
um it's It's a fictional world, Charlie. Yep. Yep. And ah to promote the ah the show. um And because he was in the army with him too. Everybody was in the army together. Yeah. everybody And not only in the army together, they were all in the same regiment. Yeah. Yeah. um And then we do choreography, which is super fun. Super fun number.
00:58:10
Speaker
Which is making fun of Martha Graham. Yeah. A little late ah to be making fun of Martha Graham, but okay. You know, is what it is. And then ah we have, and what is, what does the nosy Parker get up to Emma?
00:58:26
Speaker
The nosy Parker, the nosy Parker. oh i was like, who's the nosy Parker. oh you mean my namesake, Emma? Well, she is, um you know, just like any other front desk lady who works at a slow in, eavesdropping on everybody's phone calls.
00:58:47
Speaker
And so at one point, Bing Crosby, he calls back to the ed ah Harrison show, not Sullivan. And he's like, we got to help out. We got to help out our general and all this stuff and blah, blah, blah. And Ed Harrison is like, yeah, let's exploit it.
00:59:05
Speaker
but yeah
00:59:07
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Yeah, he's like, well, bring the old man out there and then make everybody like full of schmaltz. Yeah. And and that's when... the nosy um front desk lady, Emma, hangs at the phone because she goes, oh,
00:59:22
Speaker
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. not listening to any more of this and hangs up. And then immediately Bing Crosby's like, no, that's terrible. We won't do that. Which of course, it that's exactly what happens. um But, um but nosy Nellie Emma ah tells, does she straight up tell Rosemary Clooney or does she tells her granddaughter and who tells Rosemary Clooney? She straight up tells roseary you know Rosemary Clooney what's going on. Or what she heard on the phone. And Rosemary Clarence is like, terrible. These people are terrible. Morals.
00:59:57
Speaker
And so then she pouts. She's like, I'm never going to be successful because I hold myself to a higher standard. Exactly. And then she pouts for like the next day. And, um, and, um, what's his name? Not Bing Crosby, David. ok ok Danny K. I was going to say David O'Connor. Um, and. Happ, hap, happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap dance with Danny fucking K. Yeah. Oh, what is that?
01:00:27
Speaker
That's a quote from national lampoon's Christmas vacation. Oh, see, I haven't seen it because... I know, because you don't like poor people. That's right. No!
01:00:37
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Because I don't like cringey 80s movies. It's not cringey. It's good. ah I don't like cringey movies that make me feel gross. You don't like cringey 80s movies that make me feel gross.
01:00:49
Speaker
That's you. um um So Vera Ellen and Danny Kaye at this point. are so Why is she pouting? she's She's big mad. Vera Ellen is wearing an incredible skirt. Yes, she Made for a baby.
01:01:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. It's it's like 12 inches around up here and then like 55 inches around at the bottom. Yep. Yeah. And then she's like, she's always been like a mother hen to me and so would never get married unless she knew I was going to get married first. Yeah. um Pretty regressive, like, um men and and women politics, even for the fifty s I feel. I mean, it's early yeah.
01:01:40
Speaker
ah But here's my question about this scene. My question about this scene is that she's flirting with Danny Kaye and coming on very strong. um But haven't they been banging this whole time?
01:01:54
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No, I don't think they have. That's the thing. Like, they've just been dancing, you know? But I thought that that was like a ah euphemism for doing it. I mean, maybe. Maybe maybe they're getting slammed down big style. I don't know. i don't know. But like they've like it seems like they've made out a whole bunch, even though we haven't seen it. But they've just danced a whole bunch. And so whenever she's like flirting with him and being like, well... wouldn't you like to propose Danny Kay? And he goes, what? but what you Well, I mean, it's it's what they they say. they The euphemism have a couple of laughs, ah which may be euphemism for, you know, casual sex. Who knows? Who knows? um
01:02:35
Speaker
but ah But yeah, so I think that's all he thinks that is at that point. um But she's like, We can get fake engaged, ah which will make ah her realize that she loves this 51-year-old man.
01:02:50
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Oh, geez, Louise. Yep. And not someone else her old her own age. And he's like, g-g-gulp. ah yeah you You just mean pretend, right? ah There's not going to be some real marriage in this?
01:03:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um And so then we have the cast party where Doris returns. Doris returns doris makes her grand re-entrance and Katie katie jumps out of her seat and with joy.
01:03:23
Speaker
Leonardo DiCaprio holding the beer and pointing at the screen. yeah yeah yeah but yeah of the Doris. So yeah, they have this thing where Danny Kaye announces that they're getting married. Rosemary Clooney is wearing this beautiful green velvet gown.
01:03:38
Speaker
um And Danny Kaye is like, come dance with me, Rosemary Clooney. And the Vera Ellen's like, come dance with me, Bing Crosby. And then they're dancing. They keep trying to switch partners. Yeah. just There's this pervert in the mix also. Yes. Standing out to the side. He keeps trying to butt And finally, Danny Kaye introduces that pervert to um to Doris. And she goes, mutual, well I'm sure. Yeah.
01:04:04
Speaker
um and seems happy like she just she just wants any man i mean she gets she gets her her happy ending you know what we should do we should write the sequel to white christmas which is all taking place during the time period of white christmas like rosencrantz and gilded stern are dead but i not or about it's about george jacuress But it's about Doris's experience.
01:04:30
Speaker
we can do the whole, ah whole like, um I wish number about her, um hurt why she says mutual, all I'm sure. Well, the name of the movie is Mutual, I'm Sure, obviously. course. Obviously, but that's why the I wish number also going to be called mutual, I'm sure. And it can be all about how she heard it once and she thinks that is the epitome of class. And there's this whole sad sack of a story behind it. You know, ah we this practically writes itself, Katie.
01:05:05
Speaker
um Yes, it does. So Katie Coleman as Doris. Absolutely not. Um...
01:05:17
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So Rosemary Clooney is surprised, but is still mad at Bing Crosby for betraying them as she sees it. Yeah, girl knows how to hold a grudge.
01:05:30
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Yeah, and so she quits the show. And ah she leaves Vermont. She's going back to New York. They're trying to convince her not to, and she won't explain why. yeah ah She's like, you should know. um But he doesn't know because he didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:47
Speaker
She goes back to New York and she's doing a number. Bing Crosby goes to New York to to do the Ed Sullivan show, of the Ed Harrison show. um ah where um And she performs Love You Didn't Do Right by Me. And this is George Chikiris' big bit um where he's it's it's her and four male dancers are all dancing around her because she can't dance. yeah And like voguing almost like just, uh, our a farming, we would call it now. I took a moment where I forgot that this was a, an audio ah format and I just vogued.
01:06:25
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Where they're just like standing and doing this thing. And George Chikiris, uh, is like, just holding his arms out next to her. Yes. um And she looks like $1 billion dollars in this number. Looks fantastic.
01:06:39
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Wearing one of the best dresses I've ever seen in a movie. She looks incredible. um Yep, yep, yep. And Bing Crosby's tongue rolls out onto the table and his eyes pop out of his head. I don't know why that was Popeye.
01:06:59
Speaker
And then um ah he she watches um she watches the Ed Sullivan broadcast and realizes that Bing Crosby wasn't, you know, isn't exploiting the general. not He's not. He's a genuinely good 51-year-old, 54-year-old. 51. 51. He's trying to, and he's telling all of the the regiment, um you know, come to Pine Tree, Vermont on Christmas Eve ah for this show and and let's wish the old man well or whatever.
01:07:33
Speaker
Yeah. Forget about your family. I looked up the the general is younger than ben Bing Crosby. course he is. It looks like that they're putting like white like Santa face on him. Like it looks like that there are that that they're graying his beard and stuff. They just put some clown white on a comb and ran it through his hair. yes Yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just get an old guy?
01:07:56
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um ah Yeah, so then, um yeah, that's that that's basically the end of the movie. um They all come to yeah the show. yeah um And then um Emma, Nosy Nelly, and the generals. Oh, hold have to sneeze.
01:08:15
Speaker
had The general's granddaughter. ah ah they have hidden all of his suits. And he goes, why would you sell all my suits? And they're like, well, I guess you have to wear uniform. And he's like, I'm not wearing my uniform, guys. Come on. They go, well, I guess you're just a bitch.
01:08:36
Speaker
You fucking cuck won't put on your uniform. Come on. Yeah. Come on. And then he comes downstairs in a very emotional scene with his uniform and his granddaughter sees him. And it always makes me teary eyed a little bit because he, he, he swallows his humility and um puts on his uniform. And, and then he walks in and realizes what exactly is going on. And it is that a bunch of people from the army are there with their families and they see him at the worst table.
01:09:05
Speaker
The worst table because they have put a ginormous three-tiered cake in the middle of it, which is very sweet. It's very nice. And it's got candles all around it. And it's like saying, thank you so much for your service, Mr. General. um It's been 10 years ah of you being retired. Hooray. And... um And then they you would think after her they show him his seat and all of this happens and the clapping happens um and ah then Bing Crosby and all of the regiment come out and they do the the little like marching thing and they sing a little song. They do the war number, which kind of sucks. Yeah. Yeah. And he blows up the candles and you're like, oh, well, surely someone's going to take this cake away so he can watch the fantastic Broadway show. Here's the thing. He's seen it a couple of times. Like he's been watching the rehearsals. It's not that big of a deal. then what is he supposed to do? Stare at a cake for two and a half hours?
01:10:01
Speaker
You know, sometimes you get, ah you know, some well sometimes if you're not rich, you have to pay for semi-occluded views at shows, emma you know? But this is a party for him!
01:10:15
Speaker
It's for him. it is for him. That's a good point. And they don't move the gate. There's also this whole bit like we skipped over earlier where he's trying to get back in the army because like he's just at kind of at a loss and they won't they they won't they won't take him. They don't have a space for him because he's like old or whatever.
01:10:34
Speaker
um ah so um So, yeah. And then Rosemary Clooney ah puts a present in Santa's pack for Bing Crosby. Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye are both Santa.
01:10:47
Speaker
And he sings White Christmas again ah with everybody sings it together. And then it starts snowing and they fly the back. yeah Through the loading dock doors, you can see that it's snowing. And it's magical. Yeah. And everybody sings White Christmas and you're like, oh ah smile Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's great.
01:11:12
Speaker
um It's super fun. it's ah it's ah It's a great thing to have on while you're making Christmas cookies, or in my case, Kenai dip. Or in your case, smoky cheese.
01:11:23
Speaker
It's not even Thanksgiving, y'all. Yeah. Yeah. and um it's a It's a classic. Yeah. It's a classic. It's a fantastic classic. um Christmas in this house. Yeah, we love it.
01:11:37
Speaker
ah Fantastic. Well, what are we doing next week? Next week we are doing not a classic, like oh and and but an insane movie, um ah which is, it is, it's not made by a Hallmark, but it's a Hallmark style. Love it. It is called a New York Christmas Wedding.
01:11:58
Speaker
What? It is a deranged lesbian Christmas rom-com. I love it. And um that's all I'm going to say about it. Okay. We are going to have a guest, ah Ada Rhodes-Wish, on ah the show to talk about it because she is the one who originally got me to watch it a couple years ago. it's Amazing.
01:12:20
Speaker
When I told her we were gonna i was going to make you watch it, she's like, can I be on the episode? Absolutely. Yeah. 1,000%. Amazing. A New York Christmas wedding, yes. A New York Christmas wedding, baby. New York City.
01:12:37
Speaker
Yeah, New York is in it. Yeah, that's true. ah
01:12:42
Speaker
Fabulous. Well, shall we outro? Let's outro.
Podcast Conclusion and Social Engagement
01:12:46
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01:12:56
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Thanks to Andrew Milliken and Nick Svoboda for our theme music and Elena Henderson for our artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at gogetyourgirlpod or email us at gogetyourgirlpod at gmail.com. You can follow me and just me on social media at emilympizza.
01:13:12
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a christmas Until next time, we're just two girls standing in front of the internet asking it to love us. Good night.
01:13:23
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Good night.
01:13:43
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Christmas.