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Fri 25th Oct: CROSSOVER | Crystal Palace vs Spurs Preview
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In the latest episode of the Daily Tottenham podcast, Joe joins the Daily Palace crew to preview this weekend’s much-anticipated Premier League clash. They dive into both teams’ recent form, breaking down the tactics likely to be on display. Key players to watch out for are highlighted, with some interesting insights into who could make the difference on match day. To top it off, Joe and the Daily Palace hosts have a bit of fun picking a combined XI, with a couple of surprise selections sparking debate. A must-listen for fans eager for a deep dive ahead of the game!
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00:00:02
Speaker
Every club, every day. The Global Sports Podcast Network. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Daily Palace, oh wait, the Daily Palace slash Tottenham crossover podcast today. um' I'm joined by two Joes. i'm I'm inundated with Joes. I might even just change my name legally to Joe after this just to make things easier. I've got Mr. Joe Forrester from the Tottenham Podcast. How you doing, Joe? Very well. Yeah, thanks thanks for having me, guys.
00:00:32
Speaker
No worries. Anna, I've also got Joe Lodge with us from the Daily Palace team. How's it going, Joe? Yeah, well, thanks. It was always going to be Joe's, wasn't it? This this problem ah occurred first with, there's lots of us all over the place. It was never going to happen. We're never going to have two on the wallies on the podcast one day. So, um but yeah, doing well. I squeezed in a quick run before this in a Fiorentina shirt, which I thought was visually inappropriate. So I've instead put on my tiny soprano jacket. This was the first thing to hand.
00:01:00
Speaker
Do the people in Manchester think you're Italian, Joe? Is that what you're trying to tell me? I did get fouled once in ah in a sass while I share on ah on the canal. Given the old poorly, give it i pauly yeah Amazing. So um talking of runs, a bad run for Palace, supposedly, ah I suppose a much better run for Tottenham. The two teams meet each other on Sunday at Selhurst Park. And I suppose it's a two very different stories for each team at the moment. So, I mean, Joe, Joe Forrester. See, I'm going to have to. This is going to be now. The whole part is me. I feel like a teacher at school. um jo Joe, Joe.
00:01:47
Speaker
In terms of Tottenham so far this season, what has the the story been? um could you Could you give a sort of like a summary and idea of how things have progressed under and so far? ah What's the best way to put it? I think in terms of the way the fan base are feeling reactive. um I think that's kind of similar for for all football fans, isn't it? But essentially, quite a ponderous start and there was criticism of of the tactics. kind of We saw some of the issues that Spurs faced last season, particularly having huge amounts of possession but failing to convert that
00:02:19
Speaker
into any kind of meaningful chances, let alone goals. And ah the the main accusation and kind of the main phrase among Spurs fans was overplaying. And there was this feeling that Spurs were kind of spending entire games camped out and not just in the opposition, half in the opposition box. And two, three, four, five touches allow people to reset, get back into position, we would get counted on. It's what happened to Tottenham against Leicester on the opening day. It's what happened to Spurs against Arsenal. And thankfully,
00:02:46
Speaker
that seemed to wake Tottenham up because then at that point something clicked and we we had this kind of semi poisonous atmosphere or certainly going that way where Brennan Johnson had deleted his social media accounts due to I mean every fan base has it just some idiots and I think also the problem is is if you look at Twitter or X the algorithm rewards interactions and then the idiots get interacted with and kind of yeah I'm always sort of at pains to point out to people who don't know much about football those aren't the football fans, those aren't the people who represent a club, they're just just people who kind of spend their entire day trolling footballers. But anyway, from that point on Spurs has completely turned around. Brennan Johnson has scored ah six goals in six games. um Spurs have won six out of seven. ah Obviously pretty guttingly and you guys will will feel this as well given they're your great rivals. um The loss in that run was to Brighton, very well publicised that game, ah a horrible turnaround after a fantastic start, showed there's still some frailties and still some naivetees. But I think the big change, and I'm sure we'll get onto it later, has been the tactical switch. James Madison has dropped a little bit deeper to kind of play more of a quarterback role, and Dayen Kulosevski has moved into more of an attacking midfield role.
00:04:01
Speaker
where he's been an absolute revelation and you kind of add that to Brennan Johnson's scoring prowess and yeah things are looking are looking pretty rosy in N17. Yeah I think I mean sort of from what I gather from my Tottenham friends and sort of the story as you said the story so far this season and sometimes the football being visually has been like really enjoyable it's just maybe getting results that has been the issue and sort of instead of um closing games out and just being a bit more clinical and cynical.
00:04:33
Speaker
um and just sort of as I'm a big fan of Ange, I think he's a really great football manager. but I i like followed him closely when he was um managing the Celtic and I thought it was a really great acquisition actually by Tottenham to get him as their coach. But I think it's really interesting in terms of what you say about adaptability and it's I think and just showing that he's not going to stick to a plan just for the sake of it. He will change it. He feels that it will get better results for the team and allow his players to um to perform better.
00:05:06
Speaker
yeah Joe, that being Joe Lodge, that being said, do you feel Oliver Glazner is going to be sort of adopting maybe the same thing as Anne? Do you think he needs to change things drastically? Or what's the story so far? It's not looking too rosy down in South London at the moment. Well, yeah, the story so far is They say to boil a frog needs to increase the temperature for slowly so that it doesn't just hop out the fan. The same seems to be true of them poaching eagles that think they're starting to realize now, oh, no, we are boiling, Palace. um No individual game has been a disaster, really. ah Usually there's something good in terms of
00:05:57
Speaker
the performance in one half of the game or performance in one half of yeah the pitch. The issue is getting a system together where they're both attacking the potent and look dangerous and capable of creating chances.
00:06:17
Speaker
like they did, particularly at some games earlier in the season, sort of Leicester and Brentford spring to mind. And also sort of defensively competent because in those games, they, yeah, they they carried a threat, but looked so vulnerable when they lost the ball. And then recently I'd say the forest game, very bad half hour after they conceded towards the end of the game. But first 60 minutes were okay most notably defensively much improved and their ability to get back into defensive shape after losing the ball was
00:06:55
Speaker
so much better, but somebody that's so much as vulnerable and and the goal was probably kind of more of avoidable and um error from Chellaba slash Henderson than it was indicative of a deep tactical problem, but they created nothing relying on Eze and Nketya to try and score goal a month. Both of them did come close, but it's it's getting those two things together.
00:07:24
Speaker
probably I think everyone would like to see Glastner, certainly in the long run, try something different for the sake of it can't be worse. No no wins after eight games. it's by you know Something has to change. But equally, you can sympathise with this assistant that's worked for him in the past. It worked really well at the end of last season with a similar palisade. And when you watch it, it is difficult to pinpoint and a really obvious big issue with the the concept and and squads. It's more, let's just not...
00:08:05
Speaker
all quite agreeing, not all quite clicking into place at the moment. So, yeah, I don't envy him, his position right now. could Can I ask you guys a question quickly? Because there's there's this thing at the start of this season where I think everybody kind of said, everyone I talked to went, oh, like, Palace is going to be decent. Palace is going to be decent, no problem. Like, thought that you could kind of onwards and upwards, no one even kind of considered it being eight games in or whatever we are, and Palace kind of sitting third from bottom.
00:08:28
Speaker
And you mentioned that the the frog metaphor, but that kind of frog wasn't boiling at the end of last season. That that frog was loving life, right? Because didn't you win? You won six out of seven or something. Obviously Glasgow come in, done really well, won the Europa League at Frankfurt a couple of seasons previously. like Everything kind of looked onwards and upwards. So I've kind of been watching on as someone who kind of doesn't watch Palace Week in, Week out, fairly baffled. like Is there anything you guys can put your fingers on as to what's going wrong?
00:08:57
Speaker
Do you want to take Finn or, I mean, yeah, so I almost know. I mean, I think it's interesting. I think lazy analysis would be to say, for example, oh, Michael Lisa is gone. So therefore a huge part of of that Palace squad and probably, and I saw, for example, we were talking about Twitter and the algorithm and all this, this nonsense. And I saw the click bait stuff. And I think it's very easy for certain football fans who, as you said, who don't, necessarily watch Palace Week and Week out to assume, oh, well, it's pu it's because Michael Alise is at Bayern Munich now. But in fact, if you see a lot of what we were doing well in the second half of last season, it was it was a team effort. It wasn't necessarily um Michael Alise orientated. For example, I was ah
00:09:46
Speaker
I'm thinking back now, trying to wish it was it was like this again. But the goal, for example, we scored against Liverpool where the team was passing like it was like Tiki Taka, almost just like one touch football, which very rarely seen. I said, I can assure you. But it sort of just showed you a real air of confidence and a real sort of swagger. And I think the main thing I've noticed with Palace this season is We've arguably got ah the best, the one of the best squads we've had in years at the moment. And in terms of quality, we should be doing much better. But I think it's a real thing of attitude and mentality. mentality There isn't really any leaders in that team at the moment. And I think a big, big problem, in fact, and people highlight Mark Gahey, not Mark Gahey, sorry, Michael Alise leaving. But I think, in fact, it was Joachim Anderson,
00:10:39
Speaker
I think that's going to really come the end of the season. I think that's going to be a really um pivotal point in um in our campaign is what the decision to let him go. Because I feel like he was a real stool at the back of ah the in the palace defense. And as the old adage goes, don't break it. Don't break it. Don't fix it if it isn't broken. And and I just really muck that up.
00:11:02
Speaker
yeah um And I think Palace's issues are down to that largely. Maybe too many drastic changes and too many and as great a system as I think it can be when it works, I think when it's got players who aren't used to it and who are still adapting to it, it can fall apart pretty quickly.
00:11:23
Speaker
So I think maybe going back to what Joe was saying, Oliver Glaser might have to sort of be a bit more adaptable and tinker it a little bit, just so that he can incorporate the other players maybe. And I think we also just, we have a lot of our best players in really bad form at the moment. So hopefully that will switch around. But as you said the the hot the water is getting very hot around the frog he's in a bit of a jacuzzi at the moment at the very least i would say but um we're going to take a quick little ad break and when we come back we're going to carry on talking about the build up to palace feet hotman this sunday so don't go away
00:12:03
Speaker
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00:12:28
Speaker
Welcome back to the Daily Palace slash Tottenham podcast tonight. um I'm joined by Joe Lodge from the Palace team and Joe Forrester from the Tottenham squad. um So we're just discussing the build up to Palace and Tottenham's ah fixture this Sunday. um Two teams in very different sort of parts of the table with two different sets of issues I suppose to deal with.
00:12:53
Speaker
um Joe Lodge, what are your predictions for the game? what do you think How do you think Glazner, if you had to put yourself in Glazner's shoes, how what do you think he's going to do to to set himself up for this game? Is it going to be a case where, as we know, because Tottenham have so many technically gifted players and real attacking threats in comparison to what we have, is it going to be a case of shutting up shop or do you think he's going to try and open it up a bit more or a formation change? What are your thoughts?
00:13:25
Speaker
ah sir so It's a bit of a tricky one to predict, I think. The rumours are that ah he is edging closer to trying this sort of back four from the start and that's not even working in work and training. On the one hand, now would maybe be a good time to do it. Home crowd behind them, Spurs is probably one of those games that wouldn't necessarily expect to get anything from. And as a result, it's maybe a good time to try something new. um That said, I think the sort of 3-4-3 or 3-5-2, depending on quite what the orientation is in any given game, was
00:14:18
Speaker
has has some potential promise for Palace in this one. Again, it it did look solid against Forest, more so than it has any other point in the season. And that's probably kind of how I'd like to play the game, is yeah not take any risks. A draw even against Spurs in this form would be a pretty encouraging result. I also think, I was reading an article, interesting article earlier about how Spurs have become this dangerous counter-attacking team um this season, partly by leaving um Son and Johnson, whoever is on the wings in the game, pushed up really high when they're in defence.
00:15:05
Speaker
And I think that maybe if they play again more the kind of free for free type orientation Palace does create a ah opportunity for threat because it leaves. um a doggy or poro probably sort of isolated it's fullbacks and I think great footballers but not the most solid defenders so it's a potential route to joy if they can kind of double up on those guys. Of course the problem is Len you're leaving kind of free against three, Solanke, Son, Johnson, like against them, he'll have to back three out of the Palace on the day.
00:15:42
Speaker
So I'm am not super hopeful. I kind of think that I can't necessarily see a route for Palace to causing spurs significant problems that doesn't potentially create problems for pallets themselves and as a result I'd probably go with some kind of um yeah some flavor of a spurs when and that and unless pallets can just shut up shop and rely on Eze to produce something wonderful which is not a sustainable game plan going forward.
00:16:14
Speaker
Yeah, as you said, I think unless one of our many sort of long shots that was never meant to be suddenly pops itself into the net, I don't really see Palace bothering Tottenham too much in this game. I think Tottenham have got a really good technical squad.
00:16:30
Speaker
Joe what are your thoughts how do you think and is gonna set up for this game and i will say this if you have any strikers that are out of form and not scoring goals basically play them against us cuz we'll they'll definitely get a go against us i can tell you it's sort of like alice guarantee so.
00:16:48
Speaker
Well, thankfully for Spurs, given the start to the season, it's it's actually kind of been it's been the other way around. I mentioned Johnson's been in great form. um Dominic Solanke, who everybody was pretty, not scathing, but down on when he came in. Everybody suffers from the very, very long shadow of Harry Kane at Spurs. So Solanke's come in and been fantastic, scored a couple of goals, got assists, and done that thing that And wants him to do, which is just work really hard.
00:17:15
Speaker
um every single player on in that team is relied upon to to defend. And the reason for that is is because there is a crazy kamikaze high line. It's starting to look a little less scary as it seems to click a bit more. That being said, anybody who watched the second half against Brighton will have seen what can happen when when it doesn't go right. And we can be exploited in that way. um Joe, you were absolutely right to to mention the full backs, particularly Destiny a doggy. So a doggy is the most bizarre but fun player. So he is generally the most advanced player in any Spurs attack. This guy is a left back if you're old like me or a left wing back. And he tends to spend quite a lot of the game
00:18:05
Speaker
I would say very near the opposition goal line. He ah essentially is in auxiliary forward. That being said, his defensive cover work is almost non-existent and he has been guilty of some criminal defending ah this season so far, which is kind of scary for Spurs. I actually think a team like Palace, the best way to to beat Spurs, and it's the way with what we really don't like and what Manchester United didn't do, for example. so united came out and tried to play and pushed forward and then Spurs win the ball high up turn it over and you've kind of got these three on three situations as you say whereas actually Spurs find it a lot harder against teams that sit back it's what Leicester did to us it's what Arsenal did to us and then you can just break and traditionally teams will break
00:18:53
Speaker
down, well, ah down our left-hand side, exploit a doggy. If you can get past Van de Ven's pace, then you've got a real ah real chance in there. um and I guess the worry for Spurs fans would be if Eze does kind of pick the lock with a pass like that and then Kettier finds his feet, then we're very susceptible to counter-attacking goals. um That being said, I think what one of the issues that obviously Spurs were quite famous for, and it was at the start of this season as well, was balls into the box, particularly corners and the keeper's inability to defend them.
00:19:22
Speaker
Vicario has really stepped up and added that element to his game which has been a huge improvement for us in terms of kind of leaking goals. If I was Oliver Glazner, I would be looking to exploit a doggy and the space is left there because even if he recovers, he he doesn't do so to any great effect. um I think the interesting thing that we might see given kind of what happened against West Ham is James Madison might lose his starting place and it might be Papis Saar who's in instead of him who came in in that second half ran his socks off um and it kind of exemplifies well he doesn't have the maybe the quality of Madison exemplifies the work rate and that will be what Spurs look to do as soon as SA or somebody wants to play gets on the ball they will have to strangle him immediately and just um win that ball and turn it over
00:20:10
Speaker
um But the way to beat Spurs, as I say, is counter-attack and run at Destiny or Doggy because chances are he'll be 60 yards the other way up the pitch. I mean, from your description, he sounds like the ideal sort of palace signing. He's great fun. He wants to bomb up and down the wing and do no defending. Ah, he'll fit right in.
00:20:30
Speaker
um Yeah, no, I think that's a really interesting point. I think, as you said, I think it would be Pretty surprising if Oliver glasner elected to play sort of open expansive football like you um And sort of I think as you said, I think he's probably gonna opt for a more conservative sort of closed Shutting up shop essentially and just hoping to hit Tottenham on the counter but be interesting to see because Maybe that's not what Oliver Glazner feels comfortable with. Maybe he doesn't think his players necessarily need to do that. But I agree with you. If it was me personally, I think I'd be playing quite a defensive um at defensive game and just relying to try and hit Tottenham on the very few chances that we get. Cool. We're going to take another quick little short ad break. And when we come back, we're going to do some combined 11s.
00:21:24
Speaker
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00:21:51
Speaker
Welcome back to the Daily Palace slash Tottenham podcast and I'm joined by Joe Lodge and Joe Forrester in our final part of the show today. We're going to do, as we always do for the crossover pods, we're going to do a combined 11. I feel it's going to be quite easy for Joe Forrester to do this combined 11.
00:22:08
Speaker
yeah for Joe. Joe Lodge is looking at me with like wide eyes going wife in. Why do you have you asked me to do this? um But yeah, ah joe Joe Forrester, what who's in your team and who stands out for you? to Give us a little breakdown of who's who's made your combined 11. Yeah, this is the thing because at at the risk of kind of sounding like an arrogant, dare I say, Arsenal fan.
00:22:33
Speaker
um i It would be mostly Spurs players and that's that's moat that's based on current Premier League form, I think, more than anything. um In goal I would i would go for Carrillo.
00:22:45
Speaker
ah He's been, I mean, what a find he was, didn't know much about him before we signed him. Incredible shot stopper. um Also kind of got that crazy wild-eyed goalkeeper thing that you need. um Yeah, like I've always heard that thing that that goalkeepers are always the mad ones in a team and he's certainly got that going on and I like to see that.
00:23:05
Speaker
The ball keepers are like drummers there that's the way i would say that as you said i like like drummers they're very integral to the way the whole thing sort of works and functions but they are mental they are insane and do crazy things at a moment so i totally agree with that. That's it and and even to the extent that you turn around and there they are at the back doing something mental.
00:23:26
Speaker
ah well it Yeah, it works. um Yeah, so Vicario, love Vicario. um In terms of the full backs, despite his obvious frailties, I would go Destiny a doggy. He's such a fantastic player. He's only 21 as well. So, had a few call ups for Italy and I think You can learn a bit of positional sense and defensive kind of be be defensively drilled more than you can, that innate ability to absolutely rinse an opposition fullback and cut the ball back. so And I kind of think it taps into that, the thing that Spurs fans want to see, that incredibly attacking, swashbuckling football. um Love him. Pedro Porro is a massive fan's favorite. He's my favorite player at the club at the moment.
00:24:08
Speaker
um Again, absolute lunatic, but in a very lovable way. kind of He's one of those players that fans love to see where there's kind of last-ditch tackles or if there's a block on the line and then he'll kind of stare wild-eyed at the crowd and beat his chest. And you sort of think, this guy this guy just loves it. And also, he's very fun on social media. So, I don't know. I think he'd be quite yeah quite a nice quite a fun guy to go go on a night out with. Center-half, Miky Vander Venn,
00:24:35
Speaker
While he was horribly at fault for a couple of goals against Brighton and is by no means a flawless defender, um that pace and that power just makes up for a lot and he's he's a seriously a classy defender I think and given that he's young he's still got a lot to do.
00:24:54
Speaker
He's the fastest player in the prem, isn't he, as well, I think, by such stats, which is crazy, for especially for a centre-half. I think I heard he was the fastest ever recorded in the prem, which would be... i actually I actually believe it in his case, because it used to be like Wayne Rooney and Phil Jagiellke would come out on top of that, and you're like... I never actually looked at it.
00:25:16
Speaker
I was just going to say, I'd like to see the Car Walker Traore Van de Ven foot race. I think I'd rather see the Wayne Rooney, Phil Jagellka foot race. It'll be like school sports day. We'll arrange both. It's like, you know, you have all the kids who are real athletes and then they have like, you know, the dads or whatever at the end mowing down. Wayne Rooney just plowing through lines of children to get to the finish line. um So it's gotta be Van de Ven. Now, controversially, this is kind of what I was thinking about.
00:25:44
Speaker
Christian Romero isn't that beloved by Spurs fans. um In all honesty, like he's obviously a very good defender. He's a World Cup winning centre back. So I mean, he's obviously not a muppet. He does have that aggressive side, which kind of when it's tempered can be used effectively. That being said, a lot of the time, it's just pretty unsavory and and a little bit counterproductive. He's also not incredible. He's not flawless by any means. And I genuinely don't think because there's lots of rumors about him going to Madrid and stuff. I don't think a lot of Spurs fans would be disappointed to see him leave. And we've got Radi Dragas in who we bought from Genoa sitting on the bench. Lots of bos fans would be pretty happy to see him come in would be too disappointed, which is why I thought I potentially would take gay as the other center half. i I if that was to I was to wake up tomorrow tomorrow morning and
00:26:38
Speaker
in a bizarre parallel universe, there'd been some kind of swap deal that was somehow allowed within the rules. I wouldn't be disappointed. i mean I think I could see it happening. and You say that. I think like so it football is such a strange sport and and the world as we know it. and like I know, for example, obviously one of the big stories over the summer was Mark Gahey being linked away with Newcastle, but I could see him going to a team like Tottenham quite easily and doing doing very well, in fact, for for a team like Tottenham.
00:27:09
Speaker
um yeah i don't know if i'd really want christian romero he is a good defender as you said he's just got that i have loads of argentinian mates and i i really enjoy watching the argentinian football team but he just has that tendency like a lot of argentinian defenders have to just lose his mind for like five seconds or whatever and just do something absolutely black criminal.
00:27:33
Speaker
ah um I think he's a very, very good player when he has his composure. I think he just, as you said, just has these moments. Maybe he should be a goalkeeper. He sounds a bit he sounds crazy enough to be a goalkeeper. Maybe he should just do that instead. Well, this is it with it with Emmy Martinez, isn't it? It shows you how, because because Argentina have that kind of the DNA of crazy footballers.
00:27:52
Speaker
So to then be the keeper for Argentina, you've got to be king crazy. As obviously, I mean, Martinez pointed out, we're doing hip thrusts with fuck cup and all sorts like he's different gravy. And who else who else is in your squad? So let we who's in your midfield and in your attacking part of the team?
00:28:12
Speaker
So the mid the midfield would be, I think the midfield would probably be in entirely Spurs. my own My only caveat to that is maybe I can find a place for for one Palace player. I don't think it'd be any surprise who it is. I mean, I would definitely go Yves Passuma. Yves Passuma is a player I love, my favourite kind of footballer, that kind of Musa Dembele-esque glider, somebody who seems to, they almost kind of play like those players did on Pro Evo about 15 years ago, where they sort of float across the pitch and turn and seem to just drift out of tackles. um Yeah, can can win the ball, can pass the ball, can move with it, like just such a classy footballer when he's, when he's on form. I would obviously, as ah as I said, Diane Kulesevsky has been absolutely fantastic in attacking midfield. um The other options
00:28:58
Speaker
from a Spurs point of view to make up because I would have a killer. So if you just to be clear, he's been fantastic. like And also like I like anybody who's got twinkle toes, but it's an absolute unit. That's a lovely like that. So that's a really lovely ah thing to see come together in a footballer. And this is by far his best season at Spurs. So then if you've got your third place up for grabs, you go Saara Kay, right, real work, cool, spent ankle, very solid kind of seven and a half out of 10 player, James Madison, bit Mercurial when he's good, he's good, but he can be quite easily nullified.
00:29:25
Speaker
So then I would say, OK, well, I know Eze is more of a forward, but is this way you drop Eze back? I mean, it's quite a lopsided team, tactically, because you've got Busuma sitting deep and then Kula, Sebski and Eze both essentially playing behind the forwards. But yeah, like, why not? Why not? glasston Plus Kogler, both attacking managers. Let's basically play five up front. And then that front three for me would be Johnson, just in absolutely wonderful form.
00:29:54
Speaker
um Eddie Nketi is not a bad player, but he just really hasn't found his feet so far. um Dominic Solanke has been in great form, like I say, he's working, like working incredibly hard and kind of getting goals and assists. And as much as his form has dipped this season, probably until last week, um I still think Sun is genuinely a world class footballer. And having somebody like that on the pitch, both footed, you can pretty much score from anywhere is invaluable.
00:30:21
Speaker
No, I totally agree with that. I think Sun is going to be one of those players that when he does eventually leave Tottenham, whenever that may be, I think you it's like you don't know what you have until it's gone. yeah I think like he's such an integral part of that Tottenham team for such a long time now. And I just think he's he's very much a Tottenham icon and sort of a Premier League icon in itself.
00:30:42
Speaker
Very quickly, Joe, I'm guessing, so joe Joe was asking me earlier, is this a combined 11 of current like current crop of players or of all time? I basically think he just wanted to incorporate Luca Modric in there somehow. Maybe Harry Kane as well. But Joe, tell us, who's in your combined 11?
00:31:01
Speaker
Well, starting with the midfield, Tom Huddleston. Yes, legend. nice So, but running through it quickly, I've gone Vicario, similar reasons, I like the way he's he's continued the tradition set by the Rees of Spurs having keeper to have built like shadow puppets and It's good fun. I like Vicario. Almost the same back line, except I've gone. What I've basically done throughout the team is judged Palace players at their best and Spurs players on current form, which I appreciate isn't really fair. But on Moonyaws, Moonyaws it right back.
00:31:40
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um gay band event similar logic and then Pedro Poro I've sure horned in at left back um because I thought you know he basically sort of hops into midfield anyway a lot of times doesn't matter too much um played a kind of 4-2-3-1, so we've got Wharton alongside Besumer, he's the next pass player in there. Again, he's had a bit of a sticky start to season with a sort of groin injury, and it's not where he found his feet, but he's got that unquantifiable kind of quality of just
00:32:16
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starting an attack out of nowhere from set up possession with a punching it ball through the lines that, you know, it's quite rare. It brings sort of players like Cesc Fabregas mind, not saying it's quite a lot level, but so it's it's a rare skill than Wild Lights incorporate and then Basumbra alongside him, similar reasons, i like he's got that kind of mousial-ish, elastic legs that you just can't get the ball off him is, yeah, great player, pleasing to watch. um I've got, in attacking midfield, Madison, again, a bit of home call and appreciates from playing a bit deeper lately, but I think on his, at his worst, he's a tidy, thin-cut player and a set-piece threat and at his best, brilliant and really creative and very, very hard to sort of lay a finger on.
00:33:02
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as they are on the left, I think he suits that role well, gives him a lot of freedom to drift, and he can do whatever situation requires of him, like we're talking about there, he can play deeper in midfield, he can play in the final thirds, make a difference, he's just a quality player. Johnson on the right as well, I think, I'd sort of say,
00:33:24
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in the most complimentary way possible. I wouldn't call him a particularly talented footballer, but I think he's shown that that principle of if you're basically clever, quick, have composure in the box, that you'd be really dangerous forward creatively and as a goal scorer. It's great runs. Decision making is good as finishing has improved a lot this season, it seems. So yeah, it'd be great. And then I've As much as I do like Slanky, and I really wanted to put John-Philippe Mateta in the team. a for I can't justify it. I've just put Son through the middle because I figured that job well for Spurs when he was doing it last season. And I have no doubt that this team will create chances and control games fine. And, you know, there's no one really other than maybe having a hand in the league that I'd rather be on the end of those chances than Son. I think he's a tremendous, tremendous finisher.
00:34:17
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um Horrible mention for Bentanker as well, who I really like when he's not insulting his teammates or windmilling his fists. He's a good player, but I didn't quite make it in today. I'm kind of i'm in shock that Mateta, I mean, obviously you're using your head over your heart, Joe. I mean, um yeah, I'm shocked that you haven't gone for Mateta and your combined 11, but maybe that's a sort of an indication of how his season... He's in the all-time Premier League 11, but maybe not.
00:34:46
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not like the oldheim' lovefront with alan sheer and chris janna andaldo yeah Someone described, was it the I was reading in the Guardian the other day, someone ah described him at at the Olympics as going to the the biggest sports day ever. I was like, ugh. I think he still might be there mentally. Thanks so much, guys, for joining me today. um Some really great insights there into both teams and how they're sort of going to be shaping up for Sunday. um Thanks to you listeners so for joining us as always. and
00:35:17
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keep an ear out for not only just the Daily Palace podcast, but also the Daily Tottenham podcast and all the other global sports podcast network shows. yeah if if you just listen to You should be spending every day just listening to 20 podcasts in one go. And i'm more, because I think we've got, was it podcasts in it for Spain and Italy and yeah just everything. and If it's football, we cover it. so can Can I just say, don't don't bother with the Arsenal one though. that is That's 20 minutes of your day you're not getting back.
00:35:48
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I imagine a Tottenham fan who doesn't like the Arsenal podcast. me um Thanks so much to the both the Joes. Thanks so much to the the Joes for joining me. Thanks, Joe Forrester. Thank you so much, guys. It was a blast. And thank you, Joe Lodge. Thank you, Fem. We'll see you all soon. Sports Podcast Network.