Introduction and Recent Experiences
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happy monday snow jobs nation we are back again bringing you episode 137 of the snow jobs podcast main show powered by top gun backblades as always i'm steve you know who's with me
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rick james jeremy lindstrom glacier snow management what is up jay
Travel Troubles
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RICK JAMES
a lot. another hey We're early again this week.
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Friday night, two weeks in a row
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RICK JAMES
Friday night. Wow. We're really stepping the game up.
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Right off the plane, right into the studio.
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RICK JAMES
Yes, sir. Yeah. it was a yeah
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How was your flights?
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RICK JAMES
Flights are okay. Yeah, they were fine, I guess. yeah It's had some Delta issues, but whatever.
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Delta screwed up about everything they could possibly have screwed up. His seats, his meals.
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i've been getting I've been getting the Delta app flight notifications for every flight leaving Philadelphia and getting to Fargo today.
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I just got another one that the 815 has landed in Fargo.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's one they had me on for tonight. was like, and I was, my other, my app was this morning, don't know what the hell they, what was going on. But yeah, they, they screwed everything up. My meals, everything.
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Yeah. something's Something's screwy somewhere.
Touring Philadelphia Mishaps
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don't know.
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I don't know. Usually they're pretty good, man.
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There's no problems with them.
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But, yeah, they screwed up his meals. They screwed up everything. So not Delta's best day or two days, but we'll give him another shot.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, thought there was fight on the plane this morning.
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What else are we going to do?
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RICK JAMES
was kind of getting ready for that.
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Oh, yeah.
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RICK JAMES
I thought I was ready for that, and then nothing happened. Then on the way from Fargo, they had to take a girl off. EMS had to come on. So, yeah, it was ah yeah a day.
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Rick James Air Marshal.
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RICK JAMES
Yes. I will knock somebody out.
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oh shit yeah it was a good couple of days a very uh quick turnaround for you you came in uh what wednesday you came in and then right out
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RICK JAMES
Wednesday and drove up.
Pennsylvania Snow Plow Events
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this morning early cool cool you got lost in philly
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RICK JAMES
Yep. Even got to tour a little bit of field. I even got to tour some area of field area probably should have been in last night. So that was kind of fun.
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yeah that's basically all of philly you should not have been in
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RICK JAMES
ah was like, this is not taking me the right way here. And I was places I shouldn't have been. I can guarantee you that.
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ah Should have stopped and asked directions.
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RICK JAMES
Hey, I had the windows down. pumping, pumping at the lights. Yep.
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Excuse me. Can you show me where the freeway is, please? ah What movie was that from the 80s where they did that? They stopped in the middle of the ah the hood and asked for directions.
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No problem.
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Oh, shit, man.
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Yeah, it was a good week. We had a busy week. um This week, we had two great snow events in the state of Pennsylvania.
Guest Experiences at Snow Industry Events
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I attended Storks Plows Spreader Plow Tech School.
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ah That was on Wednesday out at Storks. And then Jeremy flew in, as we said, and he we both attended the S&S Snow and Ice Solutions Field Day on Thursday. ah you you got to hand it to the uh the vendors in pennsylvania the snow industry vendors they're uh they're they're raising the bar for events they're they're getting it done for their uh for the people in pennsylvania the snow guys in pa good for them yeah i mean it's it's really cool i mean i think there's more events in pennsylvania than any other state right what are we up to three now
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, definitely are.
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RICK JAMES
i think so. Yeah.
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Maybe four, because I think Gene also does a networking event at Storks as well, just straight networking, like a get-together type deal. So it's ah good for Pennsylvania, man.
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Good for Pennsylvania snow guys. Got to get it. tip the cap to uh to the vendors in pennsylvania the snow industry guys they're uh they're they're raising the bar so hats off to gene and the storks team as well as uh tony and janna from sns it was uh definitely two great days of learning uh very different types of learning which uh we'll get into in detail with our ah with our guests tonight. All right, but we're going to talk about the two days. We're going to talk about it with some of the guys that were there and get into some ah some
Announcements and Celebrations
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detail with both of that.
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So today, to help us do that, we got Matty Young matt of Young Landscapes. ah He went to both days.
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RICK JAMES
Happy muscles.
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matty muscles he uh he went to both days so he was at storks with me and uh and then he went to sns the next day as well and then we got anthony man of anthony winter services and he went to sns uh so but you know we're going to talk to them about that get their take on the days what they liked what they'd like to see more of next year but before we do that as always we're going to uh hear from team top gun come back to a quick recap review
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All right, gang, we're back. So quick week in review. oh Let's see. What do we got? We got trade show, not trade shows, but show day announcements. October 2nd. It's a Thursday.
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As we've been saying, second annual Northeast de-icing solutions field day. Can't talk tonight either. That's in Uxbridge, Massachusetts. That starts at 9 a.m. ah
Show's Emblem on Arctic Products
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They're going to have Jordan Smith there doing the liquid de-icing discussion that he always does.
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ah You know, he is the Mac Daddy of liquids. so ah anytime you get to talk to him, if you're interested in liquids, that is a definite bonus. So... If you are in in liquids already or looking to get into liquids, that is definitely something you don't want to miss. All right, get there.
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ah It's also going to feature a panel discussion that I guess is moderated by Jeremy and myself, and that will also be on liquids and also has an after-hours networking event.
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Please RSVP to Northeast De-Icing Solutions by September 25th if you're planning on attending. What else do we have going on?
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We got, oh, here's a good one. ah As we all know, in snow, all of us use different products and different brands to get the same job done. All right. Last week, we wished Western Snow Plows a happy 75th anniversary.
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And as you know, I use Western products. Today, we can congratulate Boss Snow Plows on their 40th anniversary in snow. right. And as you know, Jeremy uses boss plows. So congratulations to boss on their 40th. Congratulations again to Western on their 75th.
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That's that's a big deal. Both both people or both companies rather in snow a very long time. So keep it coming. What else? Something cool that we actually got to see the first time while we were out at Storks. We got text messages with them.
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The first Arctic products that are wearing the new Snow Jobs Nation emblems on them have come off the line. it's ah It's a crazy
Merchandise and Listener Engagement
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ah crazy thing to say, right, Jeremy?
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Or no. Yes.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, I was unmuted. Sorry.
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Oh, there you go. He's speechless.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah, that was that was cool to see the our stickers on the Arctic plows and everything going on out. Arctic's kind going to have our sticker on it. So it's pretty badass.
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It's wild. It's wild. Spencer sent the picture of it, and ironically, it was on the new special edition Storks Artics, which are sick looking.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, those are badass. Yeah, those are badass.
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battleship gray sectionals battleship gray razorbacks those are gonna look really really cool they they already do look really cool but seeing them in person uh i think is gonna be even better because we only got to see them in pictures but yeah it's pretty cool to see that snow jobs emblem on uh they said they're putting it on every product coming off the arctic line so that's seriously humbling for us and uh i know uh we both want to just thank the straight family and the extended family at arctic for uh just everything they do for us believing in what we what the show is about and they're they're always behind us on everything and it's just an insane honor for us anything else about that jay
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RICK JAMES
I think that's about it on that.
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Sweet. So thanks again to Arctic. Appreciate it. And that's, uh, that's awesome. So you buy an Arctic sectional, uh, in the coming months there, you'll see the snow jobs nation sticker on the backside of it. It's a pretty sweet.
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What else, buddy? How's the snow jobs nation store doing? You got stickers back in stock now.
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RICK JAMES
Stickers are back in stock. and wow and then yeah
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Sweet.
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RICK JAMES
Just waiting on orders. Got to get people to buy some stuff. It's going to get cold.
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Great. Yep. Long sleeve shortage is coming. we've we've We've said it here. it's It's a real thing.
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RICK JAMES
Carhartt shortage, yep.
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Car heart shortage, sweatshirt shortages.
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RICK JAMES
Carhartt shortage.
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But, yeah, also, guys, keep hitting the ah like, subscribe button on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, wherever you listen to us. And i keep dropping reviews of the show. It definitely helps us. It helps us get better, helps us keep bringing you what you want. So let us know what you need, and we'll keep trying to get it for you.
Guests Join with High Energy
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All right. Thank you in advance for that. What else? Anything else, buddy? All right, cool.
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RICK JAMES
that should do it, I think. That's pretty much our announcements.
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Cool, cool. Let's hear from our partners. We're to right back. We'll get into it with the boys.
Storks Plow Tech School Experience
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right gang we're back let's welcome in matt young and anthony man welcome back boys how are we how we doing how's it going ah like come on anthony where's the energy where where's the energy come on you you got to be on your seventh energy drink of the day let's go get the energy going let's go
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Matty Muscles
What's up, boys?
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Anthony Mann Jr
up gentlemen?
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Matty Muscles
Doing great.
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Anthony Mann Jr
Doing good. Great state Pennsylvania here.
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RICK JAMES
Come on. Pump it up.
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Matty Muscles
What's the grape? What's ah what's first form grape?
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i saw you dumping something into the water there what were you dumping in there
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RICK JAMES
Oh, that's the best.
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Anthony Mann Jr
This is ah just a protein formula, clear formula one clear. And it just tastes really good in water.
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Oh, all right.
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Anthony Mann Jr
It's a great flavor.
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Anthony Mann Jr
And good source protein.
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First form.
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Anthony Mann Jr
Yep. Of course.
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RICK JAMES
First form. Yep.
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God.
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All right, cool.
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All right, so let's start out with Storks.
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Anthony Mann Jr
should take a little pre-workout and get me going, you know?
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Me and Matt went. There you go. Well, come on.
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Get it. When does it kick in? Let's go here. Let's bring the energy. It's late at night. We're all tired. Let's go. um Let's start with Storks, which me and Matty attended. Matt, what did you think overall?
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Matty Muscles
I mean, really, you know, of course, in true Storks fashion, they did not disappoint. I thought it was a great day. um I got out there about a half hour late and walked right in, you know, hopped in and it was just you di do you dive right into actual technical information and being a, you know, we, so we run, we run all Fisher plows. So, and we've run them since before, like literally before I was even born, my dad was running Fisher plows. So it's just like you, you dive in and you learn everything there is to know about them, schematics, the whole nine, you get a, you know, a nice booklet, which is, you know, spiral bound. um
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Matty Muscles
It's just, it's no BS. Like it's exactly what I expected plus more. And it, you know, you really get into the technical information, which is what I was there for.
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Matty Muscles
um And you learn a lot. So, I mean, I've had years, decades actually of experience with them. And there's still things that I walked out of there learning like, holy crap, I never even knew that.
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Matty Muscles
So a nothing bad to say about it.
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Yeah.
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The manual that they gave you is like the ultimate cheat code.
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Matty Muscles
It really is.
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It's literally had everything, every wire. Here's where this wire goes. Here's where it goes to. Here's what color it is. Here's how it should look. yeah It was the mat. It was worth, I would have paid 125 bucks just for the manual.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah. So like I was, I was reviewing it with my dad.
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Just for that book.
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Matty Muscles
We, we went over it today at the office and it was just like, I'm like, dad, there's things like that. We've never even been privy to about this information that only dealers get. I said, we, I go there for a day. I get this information. now we have it at our fingertips and you know, it's just like, where, where is where has this been, ah you know, the entire time, but it's, you know, it's just like, you can't repeat it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No, and I think it's it speaks to a lot about the dealer. It speaks to how Storks does business.
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Matty Muscles
hundred percent 100%.
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Storks is about promoting the industry, pushing the industry forward.
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They've proven that time and time again. They want to elevate everybody's game.
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Matty Muscles
Without a doubt.
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they're not just there They're not just there to sell you product. You know, they're there.
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Matty Muscles
No, absolutely not.
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for to They're they're going to they're they're the old adage of what is it? Give a kid a fish eats for a day. Teach a kid to fish. You know, he eats for a lifetime.
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That's that's how they do They want you to be able to to to stand on your own because you might not have a storks in in your backyard.
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I sure don't. My dealers aren't open.
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Matty Muscles
No, I don't either.
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my My dealers aren't open at 3 a.m. if something goes down. So them teaching you how to troubleshoot.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, no, I drove three. I mean, you know, in the grand scheme of things, I drove three and a half hours for that. But at the same time, it's like you're building a relationship with somebody who is always going to have your back.
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Matty Muscles
And we have dealers that I have a dealer that is, you know, both both of our local dealers are 15 minutes away and they would gatekeep this information because, yeah, they're the dealer.
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Yeah.
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Matty Muscles
And then you have somebody like Storks who's willing to give it out. you know, like at will.
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Yeah, no, it's a it was it was great.
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It was absolutely awesome. um I thought the hands on instruction like they went over. We started out matt as Matt said, he was about 20 minutes later. So um we started out going over the book. We're diving right in like, all right here for this plow. Here is the wiring setup. Here is the wiring. diet Here's how you wire it in.
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Here's where everything goes. Here's where the fuses are. And they just continued to build on that for like the next two hours. And then you went down and did hands-on with, they had what, six or seven different plows on, on different vehicles and stuff.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
And they had pre pre rig problems for us to troubleshoot. Yes.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, and I thought they did a great job of actually breaking it down between number or the the pre-lunch session was electrical. and then they And so they broke that out and then they broke the after-lunch section into hydraulic.
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Yes.
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Matty Muscles
So when we're ever troubleshooting everything, it's always in any yeah know it's a it's either an electrical issue or and it's a hydraulic issue.
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Yep.
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Matty Muscles
And I thought that was a great way to break it down and split it up.
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Nine times out of 10, it's electrical.
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Matty Muscles
Absolutely. And I can even tell you the things, some of the things that I learned after, you know, being familiar with these things for, you know, over 20 plus years. ah So your, your dealer might not actually be installing some of these things right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes. Yes, I actually was able to show that.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah. so I'm like, oh my God. And I, I, for me, real world, I'm like, well, I know for a fact that my dealer didn't install it that way and it's actually wrong.
Storks' Support for Contractors
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Yeah. Nope. 100%. I think there were a couple of guys saying, oh, really? Because that's not the way it looks on my trucks.
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Matty Muscles
Right. Right.
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Yep. No, I got that, too. ah definitely I definitely got that. I thought the what they did... ah picking like i i think it's the most common issues that come up like the the non-interface warning on the controller when it's just slow flashing you know okay you got to trace it to find what the deal is what's what's not hot where if there's a bad ground or a blown fuse uh i thought those were those were really great it let guys work through the problems they had a tech you know They had a professional there with each group to to kind of you know walk them through it, and if they needed help, they needed a little direction, ah they gave it to them. But otherwise, it was all on us to find the problems. I thought that was awesome.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, I agree.
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um I know the, i we had, I had a local guy, Matt Boos of Quiet Acres Landscaping. He actually came down with one of my guys, ah Mark, and they were both like blown away by the day.
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they're like, wow, they're willing to teach us this stuff. Like, this is awesome. Like nobody does this.
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Matty Muscles
Well, that's what I was getting at. It's like most of this stuff is, is gatekeeped by our local dealer because they want you to bring it back so that they can hit you for a charge of whatever it may be, you know, but in the grand scheme of things, in the middle of a storm, if you have this information and you have a resource like that book that they gave us.
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hundred percent.
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Matty Muscles
So now all of a sudden, you know, you can be like, oh, wait a minute. I think I can troubleshoot this myself and maybe even fix it.
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and Absolutely.
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Matty Muscles
Unless it's a catastrophic, uh, you know, failure of like a module or whatever it may be, you know, all of sudden you're back up and going in the middle of an event when your dealer might not be open.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, 100%. I thought another really valuable piece of information they gave you was the list that they handed at the end of, hey, listen, these are what we've seen from our experience are going to be your most common problems that come up with these. Here's a parts list of what you want to have extras of.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Like they they they had a lot like it that was like that was like the icing on the cake.
Obligation of Dealers During Snowstorms
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Like they they gave you the book. They gave you the tools to to figure out the problem. And they also told you here is the top 90 percent of what could possibly go wrong. Here's what you're going to need to have in stock to be able to fix it on the fly right there without us.
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I thought that was awesome.
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Matty Muscles
And I will even say, like, from a private contractor perspective, um when you have a dealer who's a good dealer and they do good right by you, but if they're not open during a storm or if they're not available during ah critical time, when whenever you may need them, like don't discount the fact that like there are other resources out there, but you should be able to stock other parts, stock other common yeah issue type things like, hey, listen,
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, like things cost money, but you should be stocking these things because in a pinch, they're going to get you through. And they also gave us, you know, that kind of information like, hey, in a pinch, you should probably have one of these on your shelf, because this is going to fix your problem and get you back up and going.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. am i Am I wrong in feeling like if you're a major dealer in any area for snow... Don't isn't it like your duty to keep texts on during snowstorms, whether it's at night or during the day?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
i mean, that's about supporting your customers. If you if you're a small dealer, you you sell five, 10 plows a year. OK, I can understand you're not open all night you know during a storm. But if you're selling one hundred and fifty, two hundred plows a year, you're a major dealer for that area or whatever area you're in.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Isn't it? don't do you Don't you feel like it's their duty to be open when you're going to need them?
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Matty Muscles
I don't know if I would call it duty, I would almost call it obligation.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Like,
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but There you go. Same, same difference. I mean, like that, that should almost be handed down from the OEMs. No, like, Hey, listen, if you're going sell our product, the guys are going to, the guys that are buying this are going to need backup from the dealer when they need it most, which is when it's snowing.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That doesn't matter whether it's 2 PM or 2 AM, you need to be open to to fix it, to get them back on the road.
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Anthony Mann Jr
We're fortunate we have two local dealers near us and both of them are open.
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Matty Muscles
I don't disagree with that.
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Anthony Mann Jr
They have it on their thing. If there's accumulating so on the ground, we're open.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We don't have any of that.
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Anthony Mann Jr
So that makes it nice.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great. That's awesome. If anybody knows, if anybody's in my area there in the Hudson Valley and knows plow dealers here that stay open all night during storms, definitely let me know because I don't want to be wrong about that.
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But I know my the dealer where I get my stuff this is not open all night long during storms, which.
00:22:06
Matty Muscles
So I know that we have we have two local dealers.
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Matty Muscles
they They do have the opportunity to be open. And one of them, at least one of them does. But there's a growing line. It's like, yeah, hey, if you have a problem, yeah, come on up. But you're going to get in line.
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Matty Muscles
So at least they're open. But it doesn't mean you're going to get like you know first service as you walk through the door. But...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah yeah and i i would one of the negatives i heard about the dealers that are open all night is that the the local municipalities break stuff and they're wrote they're the ones tying up the line like i think contractors should private contracts should go to the head of the line personally that's just me that's being selfish but yeah i mean the the the local municipality should have their own mechanics able to fix stuff honestly that's just my feeling but uh anyway uh lunch lunch at storks again awesome food there they had smoky bones barbecue brought in uh that was delicious that was awesome good for them and then what else did we do we got to play with the new uh the new douglas dynamics rate controller the new controller that was great
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Matty Muscles
Yep, absolutely.
Storks' Impact on the Industry
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, I thought that was awesome. It was great to put our hands on that.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
that was uh yep
00:23:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Gene was able to show guys how to program it, how to zero it out, how to get what they need in there, how to program 1,350 pounds per acre.
00:23:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, but yeah, no, you can, you can program that.
00:23:36
Matty Muscles
It maxes out at 1,500. We know that for sure.
00:23:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's
00:23:41
Anthony Mann Jr
The thought's out here.
00:23:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. but Yeah. He'll have to have two dual controllers. Yeah.
00:23:48
RICK JAMES
Dual controllers.
00:23:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah But yeah, no, we had a good time with that. It was good to see that thing in action, see it how it actually works, ah how to set it, how to ah zero it, how to get your readout.
00:24:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That was pretty cool. um What else? What else about Storks, Matt? Anything else we missed to talk about there?
00:24:07
Matty Muscles
No, like I said, I mean, typical Sorx fashion, they did not disappoint. And I think for what we experienced there, like, I was only I was only able to show up by myself. Like I said to my father today in the office, I'm like, you're absolutely going next year.
00:24:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:24:26
Matty Muscles
Gene Sr. is an absolute wealth of knowledge.
00:24:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:24:30
Matty Muscles
Like that guy has forgotten more about plows the and the snow industry than most of us will ever know.
00:24:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:24:39
Matty Muscles
And you can realize that in a matter of a five minute conversation with him and you know, tack that on to everything else that they have going there that you know, the facility is fantastic.
00:24:53
Matty Muscles
And it's just like, wow, anything that they have going on, like they they they don't miss he does. They don't miss.
00:24:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, they don't.
00:24:59
Matty Muscles
They don't miss.
00:25:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's ah that's a really it's a really big family there. like I mean, they just have total involvement, total buy-in from everybody that works there on everything they do.
00:25:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
They all seem extremely happy to be at work. I mean, it's just got to be a really good place to work. So hats off to Storks.
00:25:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys killed it again. um Hats off to Douglas for letting them do something like that, you know, and not saying, no, no, no, don't don't do something like that.
00:25:19
Anthony Mann Jr
Thank you.
00:25:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, that's that's awesome that that's supported by Douglas.
00:25:29
Matty Muscles
Yeah, big time. I actually I think that's a good point. I mean, any OEM that is considering it or, you know, on the fence about it, like you should be buying into stuff like that, because the more contractor knowledge that you're putting out there, it's going to only benefit your dealers in and in return benefit your contractors who are actually the ones using and buying your product.
00:25:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah hundred percent 100%. thanks to Gene and the Storks gang for ah for having us. We appreciate it. Thanks for ah Big Gene and the other techs that were ah were very patient with the guys learning and and helping us ah helping us be able to diagnose our own issues. that You can't put a price on that. So thank you very much to Storks. Keep killing it out there, guys. You're doing great.
Travel Challenges in Pennsylvania
00:26:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Great things for the industry coming out of Storks. And we look forward to seeing the new Battleship Gray Artics out there. That's going pretty cool. uh what do you want to do move on to sns thursday yeah oh yeah go ahead i got one more thing too go ahead matt i was just gonna say i thought it was cool so last year that plow tech school and sns were on the same day
00:26:28
Matty Muscles
Well, before we go to that, Steve, actually, no, you go ahead first.
00:26:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
So guys couldn't do both. And this year, that's why I said Pennsylvania, the the vendors, snow vendors in Pennsylvania are killing it. This year they talked. They had it on separate days, one day apart. So you could come into town and do both like we did.
00:26:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
And just, you know, basically knock two two different events out two days and get out of there with a lot of lot of great knowledge from both events. I thought that was really cool of them. And then, you know, they support each other. Gene actually came to S&S.
00:27:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know, on Thursday. So that that's really, it's really cool to see that's where, that's where things are heading that the, the not only are they are, are snow guys supporting different events, but the vendors are actually supporting each other's events too.
00:27:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
And wanting to make everybody else's events as successful as theirs. So hats off to everybody there.
00:27:27
Matty Muscles
Yeah, no, I think that's great. And the what I wanted to say was the collaboration between vendors is awesome and dealers as well. But um so if you can't like we were at obviously the the Storks event for SnowX, Western and Fisher, but Storks is also a dealer for Boss and now Arctic.
00:27:52
Matty Muscles
So I think that as in an overall perspective, like
00:27:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. yep
00:27:59
Matty Muscles
if if you were to go to, you would if you don't run Western, Snowex, or Fisher, you're not going to get anything out of it. But I think that if you run Boss, if you are looking to run Arctics, like there should there's the absolute ability for...
00:28:14
RICK JAMES
Snow Power also.
00:28:15
Matty Muscles
for Gene to now expand upon that and say, okay, we're going to run an event for people who run for contractors who run boss. We're going to run an event for guys who run arctics, things like that.
00:28:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:28:28
Matty Muscles
I think the expansion is right there. And I'm sure knowing the way that they operate, that they're going to hop right on that.
00:28:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. Yeah, and I mean, Storks also sells snow power. So like they got, i mean, between all those
00:28:40
Matty Muscles
Oh yeah. I apologize. Yeah. I didn't i don't mean to say, I don't mean to sell uncle Rick short.
00:28:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's all good.
00:28:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
but But like you think about it, they got all the Douglas, the three Douglas brands. They got boss. They got snow power. Like if you're putting it on a truck, you got a 70% chance of having it there.
00:28:54
Matty Muscles
That's where you should go.
00:28:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, I mean, they got so many brands represented there.
Introduction to the S&S Event
00:29:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's awesome. Good for them. But yeah, no, that was a great point. um All right. Moving into, you want to talk about our our drive along the go path? Well, we left.
00:29:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, I was kidding. ah
00:29:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
There are highways, actually. We were commenting almost the whole drive that how come we're going through these side mountain roads for an hour and 40 minutes between locations? There's got to be highways.
00:29:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Of course, there are highways. Waze just sends you, if it's 30 seconds quicker, they will send you the goat path. and We will never take that again.
00:29:34
Matty Muscles
PennDOT killed my truck.
00:29:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
but ah
00:29:37
Matty Muscles
I think I need new shocks and struts on my pickup.
00:29:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it me or is the entire state of Pennsylvania Highway torn up right now?
00:29:43
Matty Muscles
Under construction.
00:29:45
Anthony Mann Jr
Every summer, every summer, 84, they do it in two sections.
00:29:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
All of it.
00:29:48
Anthony Mann Jr
They just keep switching spots. It's been a
00:29:50
Matty Muscles
It's not even 84. It's like every other interstate plus every other like back road.
00:29:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everything. We were on, what were we 81?
00:29:56
Anthony Mann Jr
a... 81, same thing. Same thing. They rotate.
00:29:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
But nothing ever gets done.
00:29:59
Anthony Mann Jr
Every year they do a section, a couple miles.
00:30:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nothing is ever completed, though.
00:30:04
Matty Muscles
I'll tell you what, I'm going to start a highway construction company in Pennsylvania.
00:30:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:30:10
Matty Muscles
And yeah, pretty soon I'll be out of the snow industry. Thanks, guys.
00:30:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're not kidding. Like, that's the way to go.
00:30:14
Matty Muscles
Appreciate it.
00:30:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let's have Todd teach us how to do federal contracts. ah we'll ah We'll just do so we'll do road work in Pennsylvania because no shortage of that.
00:30:25
Anthony Mann Jr
All the guys doing it own the quarries.
00:30:26
Matty Muscles
Oh, my God.
00:30:28
Anthony Mann Jr
So they own the asphalt, they own the aggregate, yeah.
00:30:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh yeah.
00:30:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Smart.
00:30:32
Anthony Mann Jr
That one guy bought all the quarries right up and he's all on the highway and now he just does all the highways because he can beat every bid.
00:30:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Smart.
00:30:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
smart oh well uh but we did make our way to uh to sns right outside of scranton in taylor pennsylvania uh we got in there we waited for the boys to get in there we got up early and got to sns so let's talk about the sns day and that we were all at that so who wants to kick us off with that we'll go right into what we do first the panel discussion
00:31:02
RICK JAMES
Yeah, panel discussion. yeah Anthony was on that, so go ahead, Anthony, kick it off.
00:31:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah anthony was on the panel absolutely
00:31:10
Anthony Mann Jr
All right. um ah Like Maddie said, I mean, these these shows are just get better and better, especially these smaller ones. And Tony and Janet, they just they make sure you're fed.
00:31:24
Anthony Mann Jr
you You are not hungry.
00:31:25
Anthony Mann Jr
You are not thirsty. They just, I mean, if you're hungry, just go to
Liquids Panel Experience at S&S
00:31:30
Anthony Mann Jr
S&S's event.
00:31:30
Anthony Mann Jr
um then You're going to leave with goodie bags, boxes of food, boxes of desserts, um you know, and they're just good people. Got to meet his, I think I met his brother last year, but I really got to talk to him this year a little bit. Great guy, um you know, and the vendors, you know, we had,
00:31:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
yep check fucking check
00:31:48
Anthony Mann Jr
a couple new vendors there this year. So, uh, actually talked to a guy about salt. Um, new guy, uh, came up and talked with him, met a guy owns a trucking company. He wasn't a vendor. He was just there, but he does salt too.
00:31:59
Anthony Mann Jr
Um, so, you know, always looking for, to network with salt vendors.
00:32:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, Anthony, you were on a liquids panel with Snow Boss and Sterling Lowe.
00:32:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
um That was actually really cool. That was, I mean, even for us, that we're not in liquids. Jeremy's not in liquids. Well, Jeremy's not huge into liquids, but, like, Matt's not in liquids. But I thought it was a really good discussion. Like, you guys really did really well, the three yeah
00:32:26
Anthony Mann Jr
and it's really hard when Jordan Smith is the person that was supposed to do this. And then you've got to go up and fill in his shoes. um
00:32:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't think so. i Honestly, I don't. No offense to Jordan, but I think people, I think that audience got a lot more out of a panel to hear all three of your points of view. I always think a round table type deal is more informative.
00:32:47
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:32:48
Anthony Mann Jr
Jordan just a wealth of information, but he's fed into us so much that we're out there just,
00:32:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
He is. Oh, yeah, absolutely. In his sleep.
00:32:54
Anthony Mann Jr
We're out there spreading what we learned from him now.
00:32:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what I'm saying.
00:32:56
Matty Muscles
You're his disciples.
00:32:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you guys learned from him, but now, exactly.
00:32:58
Matty Muscles
You guys are his disciples.
00:33:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now you're able to pass on your own experiences.
00:33:01
Anthony Mann Jr
And now we, you know, yeah and having three different guys with three different types of businesses where, you know, Snow Boss is 100%. You know, we're 50-50. The other guy, i forget what he said he was.
00:33:15
Anthony Mann Jr
um Does anybody remember how much percentage he was of Brian?
00:33:18
Matty Muscles
i think I think Sterling's 100%.
00:33:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah he's mostly he's got it as a backup yeah he's 100 he's got he's got granular as a backup yeah he's only what baltimore that right baltimore
00:33:21
RICK JAMES
Yeah, Sterling was like 100% also.
00:33:22
Anthony Mann Jr
Okay. Okay.
00:33:24
Anthony Mann Jr
So yeah, he's very different.
00:33:24
Matty Muscles
But he's also in a different market.
00:33:26
Matty Muscles
He's also in a different market, which I thought was awesome.
00:33:31
Matty Muscles
he He basically covers the whole state of Maryland all the way down to D.C.,
00:33:33
RICK JAMES
a lot of Baltimore area.
00:33:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
but there are what i think he said it like a 12 inch average market so yeah that's but they got a lot of de-icing events so that's where uh the liquids come in handy
00:33:39
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah. I think that's what he said.
00:33:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
But yeah, I thought you guys did a great job. Anything that that stood out about the panel for you, Anthony?
00:33:54
Anthony Mann Jr
Um, it's just nice to be able to go up there and have those discussions because even being up there, you're learning from the other guys that are there. Um, so just to get back to what you said, the panels are great.
00:34:05
Anthony Mann Jr
Um, did I, I thought the,
00:34:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
We can come back to you.
00:34:11
Anthony Mann Jr
the, the, the crowd actually was engaged. They have, they had good questions.
00:34:15
Anthony Mann Jr
Um, Yes. They were different than normal questions you've heard before.
00:34:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very, very engaged, actually.
00:34:20
Anthony Mann Jr
um And you even had some of the road department guys asking questions. um You know, so that that was nice. Yeah.
00:34:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah yep
00:34:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah they were actually i mean like i could smell lunch for a full 15 minutes and i'm like hey lunch is ready and but people were still asking questions i'm like all right enough let's go let's let's eat but no dude it was awesome like there was a lot of engagement from the audience i thought it was great
00:34:42
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, listen, whenever we can add value to other contractors that are either doing it and just can learn one little thing or the new guys or the guy on the fence, if we can add any value to them at one of these events, that's what it's all about.
00:34:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:34:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Jeremy, what'd you think of the panel, bud?
00:34:58
RICK JAMES
I thought the panel was really good. Like you said, it was very entertaining. It was, if it flowed really good. i mean, the flow of it, time flew by. I think it was almost, you guys were up there for what, almost two hours or an hour and a half?
00:35:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think over, I think over two hours.
00:35:10
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I don't know what it was, but it seemed like, yeah.
00:35:12
Anthony Mann Jr
was it all Was it that long?
00:35:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't think we, I don't think we broke until 12, 1145, 12.
00:35:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
and eleven forty five twelve
00:35:16
Anthony Mann Jr
Okay. Yeah.
00:35:18
RICK JAMES
So it was, it was a lot of, like everybody says, a lot of good discussion, a lot of, lot of good questions.
00:35:18
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, so yeah, about hour 45, two hours.
00:35:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
lot of Kool-Aid drinkers.
00:35:26
RICK JAMES
And then just, Yeah, a lot of Kool-Aid drinkers, you know.
00:35:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
There was a lot of Kool-Aid there.
00:35:31
RICK JAMES
A lot of guys that need some education out there.
00:35:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
kept.
00:35:38
RICK JAMES
Oh, Matt, quit shaking your head at me. I got to stir the pot.
00:35:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
i yeah
00:35:42
RICK JAMES
That's what I do best.
00:35:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
I kept pointing to the screen as they were talking.
00:35:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
all the All the Kool-Aid drinkers were talking about the scrape, the scrape, and I'm looking at the screen and watching so much snow being left behind.
00:35:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, what are they looking at? that like This is like complete denial.
00:35:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah No, I'm kidding.
00:35:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah, Chris kept trying to call me out, and I was like, I wasn't taking the bait.
00:36:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm not biting.
00:36:01
RICK JAMES
I was just letting him go.
00:36:03
Matty Muscles
guys were You guys were distracted.
00:36:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
we were We were definitely outnumbered, that's for sure.
00:36:09
RICK JAMES
Oh, we're definitely outnumbered, but i'll take I'll take my chances.
00:36:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:36:13
Anthony Mann Jr
He's still got he still got his opportunity for a picture of a drip.
00:36:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, well, I mean.
00:36:17
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah, i got I found that yesterday. That was that was easy to find.
00:36:20
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, I know you did.
00:36:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that's tough.
00:36:21
RICK JAMES
it was very easy to find.
00:36:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Look at the first plow.
00:36:23
Matty Muscles
I'm not sure that drip was hydraulic fluid.
00:36:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
The first plow you come across.
00:36:27
RICK JAMES
Alright, well, you know what, Matt?
00:36:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's a good chance.
00:36:31
Matty Muscles
I think it was fluid film drip.
00:36:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Fluid film don't drip like that.
00:36:36
RICK JAMES
you ah you You and your militia, you your militia Matt. me and You guys can just cool down.
00:36:41
Anthony Mann Jr
Mafia, baby.
00:36:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Matt, what did you think of the panel?
00:36:46
Matty Muscles
I thought it was great. um I thought that the three guys that were on it. So Chris, Anthony, and um Sterling represented it extremely well.
00:36:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Starling.
00:36:58
Matty Muscles
um I think that overall the audience was, and I said this to Tony um when we were texting back and forth, this was above the, ah the liquids one-on-one talk that Jordan, that Jordan starts with.
00:37:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:37:16
Matty Muscles
I mean, when, when we're, when,
00:37:16
Anthony Mann Jr
Thank you.
00:37:19
Matty Muscles
we're reviewing it i'm thinking about it back and forth it's like okay we have now elevated the conversation there was so many people way more than i expected when the question was asked like how many uh people are using liquids already the amount of hands that came up i was like wow this is a lot and and i am somebody who has been talking about using liquids for
00:37:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:37:42
Matty Muscles
multiple years now, I still haven't adopted them into our operations. um But I'm like, holy crap. Like, this is a real thing. This is a real thing. Like, you can't avoid this.
00:37:54
Matty Muscles
um I thought it was fantastic. Being able to hear.
00:37:59
RICK JAMES
I thought it was good.
00:38:01
RICK JAMES
um was just going to say, I was thought it was really good too that while Sterling, he runs all Kami and Anthony and Chris, they run all VSI stuff. So you kind of, you know, we had them both represented really well and, you know, they they said they both perform really well.
00:38:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah hundred percent
00:38:14
Matty Muscles
Yeah, not only that, Jeremy, but to add to that, like when we were talking to Sterling after when we were outside, he even says like, you know, his brine makers is a is a Henderson unit.
00:38:26
Matty Muscles
So it's like you can you can clearly run multiple different manufacturers to you know accomplish the same thing.
00:38:35
Matty Muscles
Right. Like. That's what it comes down to.
00:38:37
Matty Muscles
So I thought that was really great.
00:38:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
ponder
00:38:40
Matty Muscles
um But yeah, I thought the panel discussion was awesome. um These events where you have this round table type organ ah format and panel discussion, things like that, it brings,
00:38:55
Matty Muscles
organic conversation and you can't fight where that conversation goes to. And it always ends up leading to ultimately the best place, which is why everybody should be willing to show up because the things that you're going to learn, you can't quantify. You can't look and say like, well, I didn't go to that. And, you know, i wasn't, I knew it wasn't going to be worth it for me.
00:39:20
Matty Muscles
it's It's hard to say that. And coming from somebody who was resistant to going to events for so many years prior, the things that I've learned in the past three to four years of my life as a professional is really, you know, kind of changed my perspective on that, without a doubt, changed my perspective on that.
00:39:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:39:43
Anthony Mann Jr
You nailed it.
00:39:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. My,
00:39:44
Anthony Mann Jr
i One little thing at any show you pick up could change the whole strategic of your business.
00:39:50
Matty Muscles
Absolutely.
00:39:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, 100%. Here's my take on SNS on the panel that that Anthony, Chris, and Sterling did. um We go to a lot of shows now. ah we We go to a lot of different events that have panel discussions, that have group chats, breakout groups.
00:40:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
it the you know We've been to events that have good panel discussions that have 150 people in the room, and there's no questions. There's minimal questions. There's less than 10% of the audience asking questions.
00:40:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
You had, what, 45...
00:40:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
45 people in the audience, 50 people in the audience, they were all invested because you had to have had 30 questions.
00:40:26
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like everybody was invested. So that is directly that that's usually the amount of questions that come out are usually always due to the speakers that are on the panel. So you guys, the three, you kept them engaged.
00:40:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
You kept them.
Vendor Introductions and Networking
00:40:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
You kept giving them tidbits that they wanted to know more about. And they ended up asking question. And like we said, there's no stupid questions and there weren't.
00:40:48
Anthony Mann Jr
No, no, they were all good questions.
00:40:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like there were a lot of questions that they were really good questions.
00:40:50
Anthony Mann Jr
They were great questions.
00:40:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like I was shocked by the lick, the level of knowledge in the room. um And, and I, like Matt said, I was also shocked by how many people were actually in liquids when you asked for a show of hands that, that were already doing it.
00:41:02
Anthony Mann Jr
You know, I asked that question.
00:41:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, but that.
00:41:04
Anthony Mann Jr
I wanted to know how many guys are using it. And I was shocked. I mean, it wasn't half the room, but it was it was pretty close to half.
00:41:12
Matty Muscles
easily close Easily close to half.
00:41:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I think you had half.
00:41:14
Matty Muscles
And honestly, i ah i wish that I wish that that question had been posed at the beginning of the session, because then I think that it would have elevated the conversation to a completely different level to get into some real like real full-blown technical stuff, which is, at this point,
00:41:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think you had half.
00:41:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean,
00:41:34
Matty Muscles
That's where we need that's where we need to be when you're in a room of that, ah you know, that number of people like that are using liquids already. Like, let's go to the next level.
00:41:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:41:44
Anthony Mann Jr
What's nice too is
00:41:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
but i mean
00:41:45
RICK JAMES
so like ah but Like out there, it's a whole different ballgame than here. I mean, you guys almost don't need to have a you know ah have it spiked like we do here out here where it's so cold.
00:41:57
RICK JAMES
I mean, lot of the guys are running 95.5, the way it sounded like Chris said that everybody was doing, and that seems to work pretty well out there. So, I mean,
00:42:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:42:05
Anthony Mann Jr
we've had no problem running 100% straight.
00:42:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really?
00:42:09
Anthony Mann Jr
And that was
00:42:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Even with all the moisture in our events, all the water diluting it?
00:42:12
Anthony Mann Jr
no problem.
00:42:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:42:14
Anthony Mann Jr
No problem.
00:42:16
RICK JAMES
And like I said, you know, a lot of guys didn't know. I know like, well, like Robert was talking yesterday, you know, like Patrick told me, goes, you know, so you don't need to spike it. You can just double it or whatever, you know, and you'll probably fine.
00:42:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's interesting.
00:42:29
RICK JAMES
You know, just put double on that you would normally put on.
00:42:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:42:32
Matty Muscles
That was even something that Sterling said, you know, for down in Maryland, you know, Hey, don't worry about putting an additive in just like, just take another lap around.
00:42:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
up your application rate per acre.
00:42:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. But yeah, again, hats off to Anthony, Chris, and Sterling because, you know, yeah, the the engagement is directly due to the the guys on the panel.
00:42:50
Anthony Mann Jr
Appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys kept them interested. You kept them. You all had great perspectives. And I think that's that that was probably the most questions I've ever seen actually out of a panel discussion at one of these.
00:43:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, what there had to be, what, 25 questions?
00:43:07
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I agree.
00:43:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
maybe 26 questions i mean the questions went on for a full hour and 20 minutes it was a long time
00:43:17
Anthony Mann Jr
I mean, we did, no, hey, what I'm longer than that, we did a quick introduction of who we were, and it was questions go. Like, there was no topic to talk about, and I liked that. Like, people didn't have to listen to a boring little thing, you know, it was, hey, what's the question from the audience? Oh, everybody's engaged.
00:43:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah yeah absolutely
00:43:34
RICK JAMES
And everybody's fed off each other and there's one from one to the next.
00:43:34
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, cool, cool.
00:43:37
RICK JAMES
So it was just, it just.
00:43:37
Matty Muscles
Yeah, and i think I think Tony and Janet did a great job of pushing into that type of format as well.
00:43:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
10-4, absolutely. So yeah, then the panel discussion broke up. i Actually, Tony and Janet, they before they did the panel discussion, they did another cool thing. Like, they did it last year, and I thought it was cool, and they did it again.
00:43:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
They had all the vendors introduce themselves that were there and tell a little bit about you know, who they are, what their company is, what they, what they sell, what they can do and that they're around all day. There weren't, they weren't trying to sell anything. They were just, they were one of the, one of the gang basically just milling about and talking to people, getting takes on stuff.
00:44:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I thought that was really cool to do that that way again. ah So after that, after the panel, we did lunch real quick and then we went into networking all afternoon discussions, hanging out with the, ah at the booths outside.
00:44:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Had it under the tent, a nice ah pavilion there that they poured. that was ah That was really cool.
00:44:36
RICK JAMES
Yeah, the concrete he poured this last year, so yeah, that turned out really nice.
00:44:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, yeah, it nice concrete.
00:44:43
Matty Muscles
Yeah, apparently in PA, they can pour concrete better than they can pour asphalt.
00:44:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
and and
00:44:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that was nice concrete.
00:44:50
Anthony Mann Jr
We don't pour asphalt, we lay it.
00:44:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah Well, yeah, if they lay it the right way, then they don't get to do it every year.
00:44:54
Matty Muscles
Whatever you want to call it, they they they pour concrete better than to lay asphalt on their roads.
00:44:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:44:59
Anthony Mann Jr
one thing I don't mess with, so you can't blame me.
00:45:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
they do it right they don't have to do it every year then that negates the need for them uh so they're not going to do that um so who what vendor did did anybody talk to a vendor that uh they had an interesting conversation with i talked to the i had an interesting conversation with two of them the insurance guy and the the uh the green the green lady
00:45:20
RICK JAMES
Yep. Insurance guy. And then what what's it?
00:45:23
Anthony Mann Jr
ah You guys know I support the insurance um HMK, you know.
00:45:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're all aware, Anthony. He saved you $7 trillion.
00:45:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
dollars We heard.
00:45:31
Matty Muscles
severe truck
00:45:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
We heard.
00:45:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
That guy was so funny, dude.
00:45:34
Anthony Mann Jr
And they don't pay me for that, you know.
00:45:35
RICK JAMES
If you don't, if if you don't, if you don't save $7 trillion dollars and your insurance company needs to, you need to bend his ear a little harder or something.
00:45:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
that guy was so funny.
00:45:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, don't listen to Anthony. He goes, I save money, but I don't save as much. He goes, he likes to upsell. It was so funny, though.
00:45:54
Matty Muscles
Good sales pitch from Anthony, though.
00:45:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, yeah, no.
00:45:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, absolutely.
00:45:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, you know, no, that guy that guy was really cool.
00:45:58
Anthony Mann Jr
When people support me, I support them.
00:46:01
RICK JAMES
The doctor was there. Got to talk to the doctor on his stuff.
00:46:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
The Doc Lock of the week. We got we got a Doc Lock of the week.
00:46:05
RICK JAMES
Doc lock of the week. We're going to start doing the weather doc lock of the week from the doctor.
00:46:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah rubb like ah ah It was always good to see Dr.
00:46:17
RICK JAMES
We're definitely doing a doc lock of the week.
00:46:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Shanaburger.
00:46:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Doc Lock of the week. Did he give us one? We put him on the spot. Did he give us
00:46:22
RICK JAMES
ah Yeah, it was going to be 75 sunny in San Diego, I think he said.
00:46:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. All right. Let me check today's weather, actually, while we're doing this in San Diego. um So anybody have an interesting conversation?
00:46:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
we I think we all had interesting conversations with the insurance guy.
00:46:41
Matty Muscles
Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
right.
00:46:43
RICK JAMES
Saber edge guys there. Was that matt doesn't it Yeah, he was the guy that got made yeah.
00:46:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was the creator, right, of Sabre?
00:46:48
Anthony Mann Jr
Yes. He was the creator of it.
00:46:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah, he was a nice guy.
00:46:51
Anthony Mann Jr
I had a nice conversation because we're looking for some blades for one of our pushers and um what's it called? Couldn't get them for me. Winner. So I was seeing, he's like, well, if I don't have them, I'll make them.
00:47:04
Anthony Mann Jr
was like, perfect.
00:47:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:47:06
Matty Muscles
It's funny that you bring up winter because I believe two years ago when I was there, winter winter was there and yet we haven't seen them since. So it's like, hey, what happened?
00:47:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Winter was there.
00:47:16
Matty Muscles
Did this fall off your radar or do you not give a shit or don't
00:47:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know. ah But they weren't they were definitely there the first year.
00:47:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
They were not there this year. ah Weather Pros was not there this year.
00:47:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was noticeable.
00:47:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Because I always like to...
00:47:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
always like to
00:47:32
Matty Muscles
ja ye Yeah.
00:47:32
RICK JAMES
Yeah, no Emmys sitting on the table, so you definitely notice that.
00:47:32
Matty Muscles
yeah, yeah. No, let me sit on the table.
00:47:36
Anthony Mann Jr
No Nick to pick on.
00:47:36
Matty Muscles
Yep. I remember.
00:47:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
yep no no nick nick's fun because nick gives it right back but uh yeah no it's what's that uncle rick was there snow power was represented he dude he was
00:47:43
RICK JAMES
Uncle Rick was there, though. Uncle Rick was there.
00:47:50
Anthony Mann Jr
I had a great conversation with Uncle Rick. So, looks like we're going to go out and pick one up.
00:47:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
he was in minnesota 24 hours earlier he was in minnesota we he's crazy
00:47:55
RICK JAMES
He's the best.
00:47:59
Anthony Mann Jr
He's nuts.
00:48:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Brandon Riley sent out a video of like five snow powers on a flatbed trailer being driven by that exact truck in Minnesota 24 hours earlier. And then he's in Pennsylvania.
00:48:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
that
00:48:15
RICK JAMES
He was going to Twin Star, I think.
00:48:15
Anthony Mann Jr
And then he left to go play cards with his brother and his uncle.
00:48:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pinochle.
00:48:19
Anthony Mann Jr
like Yeah, he's like, I got to get out of here.
00:48:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
He is dude. He doesn't. I don't know when he sleeps. I hope he takes care of himself.
00:48:28
Matty Muscles
it Uncle Rick is a freaking major. He doesn't need sleep to survive.
00:48:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
he is ah He is something else.
00:48:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, yeah, he was there. um
00:48:37
RICK JAMES
That's Snow...
00:48:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
trying to think who else.
00:48:38
Anthony Mann Jr
There was a Salk guy, like a a guy there that was had bagged product and bulk product out of
00:48:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
You had the salt guy. Yep.
00:48:46
Anthony Mann Jr
He was down in like the Doylestown area of Pennsylvania. um
00:48:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:48:51
RICK JAMES
thought he sold anything east of the Mississippi, didn't they say, or something? don't remember.
00:48:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think bag product.
00:48:55
Matty Muscles
East and West.
00:48:56
Matty Muscles
He'll go anywhere. He'll ship it anywhere.
00:48:57
Anthony Mann Jr
They had a bag product. They said they'll ship it anywhere.
00:48:59
Matty Muscles
As long as price doesn't matter, he'll ship it anywhere.
00:49:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
um oh there was the guy from snow way was there
00:49:06
Anthony Mann Jr
You didn't have bad pricing on the product, on the bag stuff.
00:49:06
Matty Muscles
Typical soft one.
00:49:10
Anthony Mann Jr
It was like $6.75 a bag or $7 a bag.
00:49:14
Matty Muscles
Yeah, there was ah there was a dealer from Snow Way there, yep.
00:49:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
so that was a different guy than last year do you remember the guy from last year was a much older less engaging gentleman last year from snow way
00:49:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
This year, at least, that that guy had energy. That guy was really...
Environmental Concerns and Salt Usage
00:49:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That guy was... I liked that guy from Snow White. didn't get to talk to him, but he seemed like a good guy in his introduction.
00:49:36
Matty Muscles
and want to say the name i could be wrong but I want to say the name was like Hayward Distributors or something like that
00:49:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, it was. Yep. It was. You are correct. So the insurance guy, um that was an interesting conversation because he said that they are re look like his his company, at least are they're looking at they're going to take companies on an individual basis.
00:50:01
Matty Muscles
That's what he said.
00:50:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, yeah, they're going to start looking at snow companies on an individual basis. Like, what is your rating? Like, what is your past history for insurance? Have you had claims against you? If you haven't, you shouldn't be penalized by not being able to get insurance or having really super high insurance.
00:50:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
So they're going to start evaluating snow companies on a case-by-case basis, which which is encouraging.
00:50:23
Matty Muscles
He also said don't work for Walmart and don't work for Lowe's.
00:50:23
Anthony Mann Jr
Thank you.
00:50:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
He did say that. Yep. I mean, I knew that already. we we but Most of us know that already.
00:50:31
Matty Muscles
we Yeah, we know that.
00:50:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. buts not a Check. Fucking check.
00:50:35
Matty Muscles
Check and check.
00:50:35
RICK JAMES
yeah jack Check, check.
00:50:38
Matty Muscles
He's at Home Depot and they're okay.
00:50:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. I was really, i really wanted to.
00:50:42
RICK JAMES
yeah but ah There's no liability there.
00:50:42
Matty Muscles
We can figure it out with them.
00:50:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I was really looking forward to taking that eight acre Walmart in a 40 inch market for 35,000. Damn it. That's right out the window now after talking to him. No, no liability there.
00:50:55
RICK JAMES
There's no liability.
00:50:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
But ah no, they I thought that was really encouraging. he And we'll probably, I think we're going to get them on, right, to talk more about that, give guys some hope.
00:51:06
Matty Muscles
I think his name his name was Alan, wasn't it?
00:51:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's weird. Alan was Alan, I believe, wasn't it?
00:51:10
Anthony Mann Jr
And Matt's his partner.
00:51:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was Alan, yeah.
00:51:11
Matty Muscles
Yeah, cool.
00:51:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Yep. i And he keeps saying that he's not the guy to be on the podcast.
00:51:16
Matty Muscles
Careful how you use that word, Anthony.
00:51:19
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, Matthew is.
00:51:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's his co-worker.
00:51:21
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, Matthew. Yep. Colleague.
00:51:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Colleague. There we go. Yeah, so he said his his his colleague would be the guy to have on the show. he doesn't I think he can.
00:51:31
Anthony Mann Jr
I think you gotta have both of them on because Alan's funny.
00:51:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
again I think so.
00:51:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's funny. Exactly.
00:51:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's a funny guy.
00:51:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Former cop. He's a good dude. so ah But, yeah, I liked what he was saying.
00:51:40
Anthony Mann Jr
He brought out little Stanley hammers and handed out hammers to everybody. Did you get a hammer, Matty?
00:51:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:51:46
RICK JAMES
I didn't get one. No.
00:51:49
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, yeah, they were little Stanley rubber mallet hammers.
00:51:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
You wouldn't have been able to take it on the plane.
00:51:51
Anthony Mann Jr
I forget what he said. it He had some catch line for it.
00:51:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I didn't get one either.
00:51:55
Anthony Mann Jr
um Hammer the competition or something or hammer the ice. or um But they're going have their name.
00:52:00
Matty Muscles
I thought he was just using them to hold down his paperwork.
00:52:01
Anthony Mann Jr
They're going to use his business cards.
00:52:03
RICK JAMES
I thought he's, that's what I thought. I thought was just holding the papers down with it.
00:52:06
Anthony Mann Jr
No, he had about 10, 15 of them.
00:52:10
Anthony Mann Jr
They a bunch of them.
00:52:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
I thought it was a judge's gavel.
00:52:11
Anthony Mann Jr
he got ah Sean got one. um Robert got one.
00:52:16
RICK JAMES
Sean always gets everything.
00:52:20
RICK JAMES
Anthony got one.
00:52:20
Anthony Mann Jr
I walked off with Sean's glasses.
00:52:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a, I thought it was a, yes, you did.
00:52:21
Anthony Mann Jr
I had to come back.
00:52:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did take off with him. I said, listen, it was either Anthony or who was the other guy that was there still? It was either Anthony or Robert.
00:52:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
They were the last two guys to leave.
00:52:33
Anthony Mann Jr
They were sitting there and I just instantly, just like by instincts, just put them on my head.
00:52:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
So one of them walked off with the glasses.
00:52:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was bright out.
00:52:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
So ah the other, let's see, what else? ah the they we I had an interesting conversation with the the green in, like, i don't i I don't even know what the name of her her organization was.
00:52:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Something like Green PA or something, like Salt Reduction PA?
00:52:59
Anthony Mann Jr
It's the Pennsylvania Master Watershed Stewart. Stewart. Little Lehigh Watershed.
00:53:05
RICK JAMES
Jesus, that's a long name.
00:53:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:53:06
Anthony Mann Jr
water said
00:53:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
I got to get an acronym for that. I got to shorten that up.
00:53:10
Matty Muscles
I think her name was was her name Jennifer.
00:53:10
RICK JAMES
well That's the group that's going after Sean.
00:53:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
So i I thought what she was, i you know, obviously that's a great thing.
00:53:17
RICK JAMES
I got your back, Sean.
00:53:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
We got to protect our watersheds. ah You know, I applaud that. Good for her. She was a very nice lady. But I think I kind of, I mean, you guys were there. Did I kind of shock her and stop her in her tracks when I told her the first thing to get any contractor to buy into that?
00:53:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
First thing you got to do is go after the state DOTs and the local. local highway departments, get them to stop putting down so much salt and no contractor is going to put down less salt unless they're offered some kind of, you know, liability reduction to do so.
00:53:40
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah, good luck.
00:53:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause you know, we're putting down salt to make sure we don't get sued.
00:53:53
Anthony Mann Jr
She took notes from the minute she got there.
00:53:53
Matty Muscles
Steve, how dare you shock her by how dare you shock her by like how dare you shock her by the company that hired her to do the
00:54:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm just, I'm being honest.
00:54:07
Anthony Mann Jr
She wrote notes from the minute she got there.
00:54:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's, that's probably where you got to start.
00:54:09
Anthony Mann Jr
She was in that notebook writing stuff down the whole time.
00:54:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's good. I mean, listen, they she was, she was
00:54:15
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, no, she and she she was like, I'm overwhelmed. And she's like, I can't believe how you guys come together like this and are trying to solve the problem. And we don't even know you guys are on the front line doing this.
00:54:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, i mean that's I mean, that's the basic thing.
00:54:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
why no like guys are not Guys that are using salt, period, whether you're using too much or or using less, it doesn't matter. You're still going to use salt to protect yourself from liability, from slip falls.
00:54:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's our biggest fear. That's what keeps us all up at night. You know, from November to April, that has got to be the number one worry on every snow guy's mind.
00:54:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it not? Slip falls.
00:54:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then followed close second by what the fuck's going to break.
00:54:55
Anthony Mann Jr
Well, breakdowns.
00:54:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
like yeah You know, and then third, am I going to get paid? but for doing the work we already did but i mean that's that's a serious thing the liability is a big problem and she was explaining that new hampshire has something in place already that if you get certified with this green like salt reductions thing um you are offered limited liability uh for slip falls so they actually like the state actually protects you somehow or something i got to find out more about it but she said it's been challenged twice and both were unsuccessful um you know by people trying to sue for slip falls for those green industry uh certifications well we'll see i mean it's it's like i said anytime it's one person telling me that and i don't have documentation saying it in front of me i'm kind of
00:55:33
Anthony Mann Jr
We need to bring that national.
00:55:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know, skeptical about it. I want to find out more, get do my own homework on it. But I mean, if that's a thing, that would be a good place to start, you know, start at this.
00:55:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
You got to start at the state level of, you don't stop the DOTs from turning, you know, ah it's hard to tell a contractor that could, that is liable and could personally get sued to stop using so much salt when the state DOT is putting down 10 times what the contractors are, you know, that.
00:56:09
Matty Muscles
yeah exactly i mean that's kind of a no-brainer like if you regulate it from the state dot standpoint like that it obviously is going to trickle down
00:56:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:56:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:56:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we don't need more regulations. i can guarantee you that.
00:56:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, exactly.
Insurance Insights and Humorous Exchanges
00:56:23
Matty Muscles
no and i had ah had ahead my i license plate number yeah
00:56:24
RICK JAMES
I did see her. I did see her. like go ahead. I was just to say, I did see her writing and down Sean's um license plate number and stuff.
00:56:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
License plate. License plate number.
00:56:34
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, yeah. Name of his company off his shirt. She had everything on him.
00:56:38
RICK JAMES
Yeah, yeah, he he's going down.
00:56:38
Anthony Mann Jr
Pictures.
00:56:41
Matty Muscles
He was scared.
00:56:42
Matty Muscles
He was scared.
00:56:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
you The Bin Laden of salt.
00:56:45
Anthony Mann Jr
The salt daddy.
00:56:46
RICK JAMES
He really felt picked on, you know, because he was not a Brian guy, and was all Brian guys there. Yeah, he was. Yeah.
00:56:53
Anthony Mann Jr
He needs to help. he needs He needs to be part of the solution and get on Brian and help the environment.
00:57:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nobody's going to mess with my Sean. That's my buddy. That's my buddy.
00:57:05
Anthony Mann Jr
They'll outlaw salt and he'll be out there throwing it.
00:57:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
00:57:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah he He said the same thing, though. He goes, listen, I'm in Jersey. I literally lead the league in frivolous slip fall lawsuits.
00:57:18
Anthony Mann Jr
You don't have to tell me.
00:57:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
He goes, if if you're not going to stop Jersey DOT from sitting in intersections, literally with their their conveyors still going, dropping a pile of salt in the intersection while they're at the traffic light, then don't tell me to use less when I needed to protect myself from getting sued.
00:57:31
Anthony Mann Jr
Bro, Jersey, you'll be driving down the road in Jersey and there'll be piles about a foot and a half high by about this far when they got to clean their salters.
00:57:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that's what he said.
00:57:41
Anthony Mann Jr
You hit one of those, you're you're airborne. Okay.
00:57:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that's what he was saying.
00:57:46
Matty Muscles
He's got a good point.
00:57:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
He does. No. yeah And that's I think that's a lot of guys points is, you know, that it has to if you're going to tell contractors that can personally be held liable and sued that they got to use less salt, then you got to start with the DOTs that those drivers are not going to get personally sued for putting down too much salt. If there's an accident or something, the state will settle it.
00:58:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
But the driver himself is not worried about. you know, losing his business or losing his home of the the, you know, you got to start with the state DOTs and the local highway departments, get them in line.
00:58:18
Anthony Mann Jr
And the OEMs, look at Western, what they're doing.
00:58:21
Anthony Mann Jr
They're helping the contractors that don't know now. You know, lot of us older guys have been in this industry.
00:58:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I mean, with the rate control.
00:58:27
Anthony Mann Jr
With that rate control, they're helping with the solution too.
00:58:29
Anthony Mann Jr
So, you know, everybody gets together. You know, it's not going to end it, but it's going to lower it.
00:58:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:58:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, yes and no.
00:58:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes and no. I mean, if you're going to help, if you really want to lower salt, that's not what it's, I don't think what it's for. It's not to make guys use less. It's to let them know exactly how much they're using.
00:58:48
Anthony Mann Jr
No, I get that, but...
00:58:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
If they wanted them to use less, they wouldn't let it go up to 1,500 pounds per acre. You know what saying?
00:58:52
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, right.
00:58:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like when the industry standard is what, 800 pounds of of untreated rock salt per acre? Is that what Simon's a little common, what is best practices says?
00:59:01
Anthony Mann Jr
I'm not sure.
00:59:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think it's 800.
00:59:05
Matty Muscles
What's Saima?
00:59:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
Equipment Preferences Debate
00:59:09
Anthony Mann Jr
Now, what's your rate with the treated salt with the magic?
00:59:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah jesus
00:59:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
250 maybe Depending I mean we're using We're using Artics You know there's not much left behind anyway
00:59:15
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, wow. So half.
00:59:23
Anthony Mann Jr
and Okay.
00:59:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
So unless we have severely frozen pavement, now let's not start again, Matt.
00:59:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
we had a We had a big, big argument in the hotel room, ah Metal Plus.
00:59:32
Matty Muscles
That I squashed really quickly.
00:59:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
And the best part is you cannot have an argument.
00:59:35
RICK JAMES
no You didn't squash.
00:59:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
You cannot have a valid argument if you've not used both products. and that was that was kind of where the argument ended.
00:59:44
Matty Muscles
That's fair. That's a fair point. But.
00:59:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
But I'm going to argue anyway.
00:59:48
RICK JAMES
There's no but.
00:59:50
RICK JAMES
There's no but.
00:59:51
Matty Muscles
and there's ah That's a fair point.
00:59:51
Anthony Mann Jr
Personal preference is what it is.
00:59:55
Matty Muscles
it's It's a little bit of personal preference. But.
01:00:01
Matty Muscles
Are we going to go there? Do we want to go there right now?
01:00:03
RICK JAMES
No, no, we're not going there.
01:00:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, no, we go we don't have and we don't have enough time for that.
01:00:05
Matty Muscles
No, I'll go.
01:00:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
i want to go to bed.
01:00:06
RICK JAMES
We're not going to stay out here that late.
01:00:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, shit. But no, ah what were we talking about?
01:00:10
RICK JAMES
To go nowhere.
01:00:10
Anthony Mann Jr
Get the energy drinks.
01:00:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Damn it.
01:00:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
I lost my place. What were we talking about?
01:00:17
Matty Muscles
Give me some grape bomb. um I'll fucking go all night long.
01:00:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God. um Yeah, no, what were we talking about? I lost my place now.
01:00:23
Matty Muscles
were We were talking about salt.
01:00:25
Anthony Mann Jr
rate control we're finishing up on.
01:00:26
Matty Muscles
Salt red reduction.
01:00:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah, so and unless it's unless it's like a um ah bad icing event, like we're getting like frozen precipitation or something, or or the ground is really frozen, um we we're not going more than 250 an acre.
01:00:43
Anthony Mann Jr
Wow. Okay.
01:00:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's 250, 300 tops it goes up to. it's It's hot. It's hot salt, and we don't leave much behind with the Artics at all.
01:00:53
Anthony Mann Jr
It looks like we might try our first quarter to count this year.
01:00:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
We got Artics with saber edges and winter edges.
01:00:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, you know, then you can join our argument.
01:01:01
Anthony Mann Jr
yeah Yeah, I'm gonna put him side by side.
01:01:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
We got to get mad in Arctic so at least he can see.
01:01:03
Anthony Mann Jr
I'm gonna do a fair comparison. You know?
01:01:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Do it once and then you tell me. how how what What size plus do you have?
01:01:13
Anthony Mann Jr
have two, I have the 813 and the 1016.
01:01:18
Anthony Mann Jr
and sixteen
01:01:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay, perfect. So you put that 1016 next to an Arctic LD 10. what What Arctic are you getting?
01:01:28
Anthony Mann Jr
I'm not sure. It'd probably be a bigger one for my bigger loader.
01:01:28
Matty Muscles
Can't do it.
01:01:31
Matty Muscles
Can't do it.
01:01:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay, so you put a 10 foot Arctic next to a 10 foot metal plus and you'll see that the 10 foot...
01:01:34
Anthony Mann Jr
Will they both be 16 foot pushers? Well, it's the 16 foot metal class to like a 14 or 16 foot.
01:01:39
Matty Muscles
You're gone.
01:01:42
Anthony Mann Jr
What size is the Arctic coming?
01:01:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah You can't do it. Hold on. You can't do it. You got to hear me out. So put the 1016 next to the 10-foot Arctic and just judge it on the the mold board for the metal plush because the wings scrape like shit anyway.
01:01:58
Anthony Mann Jr
but Okay.
01:01:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
They don't scrape as good as the mold board.
01:02:00
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, okay.
01:02:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
the I'm telling you, we watched videos of it all day yesterday in the background.
01:02:02
Matty Muscles
this is this is not this is not this is not ah This is not right.
01:02:06
Anthony Mann Jr
No, I agree.
01:02:07
Matty Muscles
Like, you can't.
01:02:08
Anthony Mann Jr
listen And this is why we're giving it a shot.
01:02:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're telling me? So, Matt, wait a minute.
01:02:10
RICK JAMES
No, Matt, this is our show.
01:02:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're going to tell me that the wings
01:02:11
RICK JAMES
Your band, Matt, this is our show.
01:02:14
RICK JAMES
You can get off.
01:02:15
Matty Muscles
yeah Yeah. Okay, bye.
01:02:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Matt, you're going to seriously tell me though, Matty.
01:02:18
Anthony Mann Jr
but but That's why we're going to give it a shot, because we've got to try, you know, and see what's better that's out there.
01:02:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hold up. I want to get this on record from a Metal Plus user. ah You're seriously going to tell me that the wings on the Metal Plus scrape as good as the Metal Plus mold board does?
01:02:32
Matty Muscles
I'm going to tell you that you can't compare in all fairness, whether like full transparency, you can't compare a hydraulic wing plow to a straight box pusher.
01:02:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're just talking scrape.
01:02:44
Matty Muscles
You can't do it.
01:02:45
RICK JAMES
You don't have to
01:02:47
RICK JAMES
arctic scott ah Arctic's got a hydraulic claw, too. I
01:02:49
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, Metal Plus has a box.
01:02:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go.
01:02:50
Matty Muscles
okay. So how, how, how, big how big, how big are their wings?
01:02:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I got a snow wing.
01:02:53
RICK JAMES
have a... Yeah, there's...
01:02:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I got a snow wing.
01:02:55
Matty Muscles
How big are their wings?
01:02:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Two foot.
01:02:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Two foot.
01:02:58
Matty Muscles
The two-foot wings.
01:02:59
Matty Muscles
So when i when when you can when you can take six-foot wing on a van wing with that has a live edge, you can't compare that to a straight box pusher.
01:02:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:03:11
Matty Muscles
it's It's the start and end of the argument. Like, it really is.
01:03:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not.
01:03:16
RICK JAMES
Have you seen it?
01:03:16
Matty Muscles
I'm telling you, you can't โ but I don't have one of them.
01:03:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not at all.
01:03:16
RICK JAMES
Have you seen it?
01:03:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not at all.
01:03:17
RICK JAMES
You don't even have one of those, Matt.
01:03:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Tonight's Kool-Aid is sponsored by Metal Plus.
01:03:21
Anthony Mann Jr
All right, so how about them weather guys?
01:03:21
Matty Muscles
But I'm just telling โ I'm telling you.
01:03:24
Anthony Mann Jr
Let's talk about Robinette.
01:03:25
Matty Muscles
I'm telling you, you can't compare โ
01:03:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, when did he become so far left?
01:03:28
Matty Muscles
You can't compare a hydraulic wing plow to a straight box pusher.
01:03:32
Matty Muscles
Talk apples to apples. you all Oh, well, you want you want to compare bids apples to apples, but when you want to talk about plows, you want to talk about a hydraulic wing plow compared to a straight box pusher.
01:03:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're not talking about the versatility.
01:03:42
Matty Muscles
You can't. Yes, that's exactly what you're trying to say.
01:03:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're talking straight up scrape.
01:03:45
RICK JAMES
I got videos, Matt.
01:03:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Straight up scrape.
01:03:47
RICK JAMES
I got the snow wolf. I got the metal plasmin. I got the snow wing. Side by side.
01:03:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
I believe we said that.
01:03:51
Matty Muscles
Fucking, fucking militia.
01:03:53
RICK JAMES
Watch my TikTok.
01:03:53
Matty Muscles
Fucking militia. Who?
01:03:56
Anthony Mann Jr
Now I'd like to see ah an Arctic box versus an Arctic or a metal plus box, you know, instead of a wing belt.
01:03:59
RICK JAMES
You're the cage. You're a cage guy.
01:04:03
Matty Muscles
I'm not a cage guy anymore. Don't even get me started on that.
01:04:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not even close.
01:04:06
Matty Muscles
I'm not a cage guy.
01:04:07
RICK JAMES
Let's get started on that.
01:04:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not even close.
01:04:08
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah, cause but they're because they're not gonna they're not going to give you a plow, they said they were.
01:04:08
Matty Muscles
out Like, I love my cages. um I love my cages, but I'm not. I love my cages, but I'm not a cage guy anymore. I'm a fucking metal plus militia.
01:04:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
01:04:21
Anthony Mann Jr
it was the metal plus mafia.
01:04:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm going to throw up.
01:04:22
RICK JAMES
You got hit hard.
01:04:24
Matty Muscles
That being said, I'm pretty sure i'm i'm pretty sure I got a Razorback coming this year.
01:04:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
We didn't say anything about.
01:04:37
Matty Muscles
once i heard of once i Once I heard that I could get a gunmetal gray Razorback, I'm pretty sure that one's coming.
01:04:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
good
01:04:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
You can get a black one too. Sick.
01:04:47
Matty Muscles
ah don' more of a I'm more of a gray guy.
01:04:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
I like the gray. I do like the gray.
01:04:50
Matty Muscles
i'm a I'm a gray guy, especially when it comes with a Snow Jobs Nation sticker on it.
01:04:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
but I'm going to say one more thing and then I'm going to mute Matt.
01:05:00
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, yeah.
01:05:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nobody was, we didn't say anything about versatility or war uses.
01:05:04
Matty Muscles
yeah Oh, that was but that was part of the conversation.
01:05:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
We said straight scrape. No, just scrape, just scrape. That's all we're saying. Just scrape mute and mute.
01:05:10
Matty Muscles
That's it's not always that.
01:05:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was just straight up scrape.
01:05:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's the only thing I said.
01:05:19
RICK JAMES
This is just fun.
01:05:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
This is a lot of fun.
01:05:20
RICK JAMES
This is just fun going back and forth.
01:05:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
There this is so fun.
01:05:22
RICK JAMES
You only people are going fired up over this? You know how many people are just going lose their shit over this?
01:05:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, God, it's so funny.
01:05:26
RICK JAMES
but this Oh, my God. We're going to get so many DMs of mafia.
01:05:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's so funny. We're like, oh. Oh, my God. Dude, it's so funny.
01:05:34
Matty Muscles
Steve was falling asleep, and yet he, like, lurched out of the bed dispute the argument.
01:05:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
But anyway.
01:05:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. I will.
01:05:39
RICK JAMES
He was falling asleep. He wanted us. Yeah. yeah
01:05:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
I've used both. I know how they both scrape. I know what their pluses are. i know what their minuses are.
01:05:48
Matty Muscles
I know what the โ
01:05:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah I'm not taking anything away from Metal Plus.
01:05:52
Matty Muscles
I'm not taking anything away from Arctic either.
01:05:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
You gotta use one though. You gotta actually see it when you see it and you're like, oh, now I know what these guys are talking about.
01:05:59
Matty Muscles
I've seen it. I've seen it.
01:06:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay.
01:06:03
Matty Muscles
I've seen it.
01:06:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
You haven't seen it. You told me you've never seen an Arctic roll snow.
01:06:07
Matty Muscles
I haven't seen it because we don't have the right snow to roll it. And you and you both and you both agreed you both agree that you have to have the right snow to see the roll.
01:06:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's not true. oh hold on. I'm sending you eight videos right now.
01:06:15
Matty Muscles
You tried looking up the video. You'd spent five minutes trying to find the video of it rolling snow. I've seen him push snow. I've literally worked right next to one. And yet when he has to stop short and I can drive into a pile and not worry about breaking a block on a โ on on
01:06:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
You don't have to stop short.
01:06:34
RICK JAMES
That's called the operator. that's That's an operator.
01:06:36
Matty Muscles
Okay, operator error.
01:06:36
RICK JAMES
It's not the fucking plow.
01:06:37
Matty Muscles
Okay, fine.
01:06:40
RICK JAMES
So what happens when you rip a wing off? Is that is that the plow's fault or the operator's fault?
01:06:44
Matty Muscles
Never ripped a wing off.
01:06:45
RICK JAMES
Oh I never ripped a wing off.
01:06:47
Matty Muscles
you never failed Oh, I've never broken a block.
01:06:47
RICK JAMES
I've seen wings later out
01:06:49
Matty Muscles
Oh, my God.
01:06:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Never broken a block.
01:06:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Never have.
01:06:51
RICK JAMES
I got pallets of broken blocks.
01:06:53
Anthony Mann Jr
Holy shit.
01:06:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's not the arrow.
01:06:54
Matty Muscles
Steve's never broken a block.
01:06:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's the Indian. I've never broken a block.
01:06:56
Matty Muscles
Never broken a block.
01:06:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
The LDs don't break block. It ain't the arrow.
01:06:59
Anthony Mann Jr
Can we get back to our regularly programmed schedule?
01:06:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's the Indian.
01:07:01
Matty Muscles
this is not the This is not the way that the episode didn't have to go this way, guys.
01:07:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let's do that. Let's do that.
01:07:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
I didn't realize how indoctrinated Matt has become.
01:07:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's totally brainwashed here.
01:07:13
Matty Muscles
Listen, I started this episode as a cage guy.
01:07:13
RICK JAMES
Oh, this is good.
01:07:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
What?
01:07:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah
01:07:22
Anthony Mann Jr
I started it as a pro tech guy.
01:07:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, ah God. ah
01:07:24
RICK JAMES
We got to go to commercials.
01:07:25
Matty Muscles
Protective.
01:07:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
What? Yeah, let's let's do that. Let's go to commercials.
01:07:28
Matty Muscles
Yeah, let's go to commercials.
01:07:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everybody shut up and mute.
01:07:30
Matty Muscles
Hey, shut that up. We'll go to commercials.
01:07:59
Anthony Mann Jr
Thank you.
01:08:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we're back. We have kicked Matt off the show. He's gone.
01:08:27
RICK JAMES
we we looked We lost Matt and Anthony.
01:08:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah They've left in protest.
01:08:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jeremy, what did you think of dinner at S&S?
01:08:36
RICK JAMES
ah it was great. it was always It's always good.
01:08:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Awesome, right?
01:08:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was some seriously amazing food. That spread is incredible.
01:08:43
RICK JAMES
yeah I got to do a photo drop to you, too, on that. So, yeah.
01:08:45
Anthony Mann Jr
You got your mushroom, Steve.
01:08:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I got a whole tray of my own mushrooms. That was awesome.
01:08:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was great.
Event Highlights and Food Praise
01:08:53
Anthony Mann Jr
I think that was the best part of the event was just sitting there and like real conversations with the vendors, not, you know, them trying to sell just conversation for an hour or two all together.
01:08:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was so funny. Stuffed mushrooms were awesome.
01:09:04
Anthony Mann Jr
Hanging out was really cool.
01:09:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's literally what it's all about.
01:09:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's literally, you will get so much more out of that doing that than anything else. And that was a really, that was really cool. And, you know you you started out like we had plenty of room outside and i went inside and told guys like they were getting plates and going and sitting by themselves i'm like guys come outside eat with us like everybody's under the tent there's plenty of room out there you know bring your stuff out there so it was it was great it was definitely good to uh to see guys out there and uh it was the the spread was incredible the the i don't know
01:09:41
Anthony Mann Jr
it looked like a wedding like you it looked like a high-end wedding have flowers on the you know with the food i mean there were so many different things spread out nice antipasta out there i mean was perfect
01:09:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%. Oh, 100%. 100%. It was amazing. What was what was your favorite thing food-wise at dinner?
01:10:02
Anthony Mann Jr
The meatballs.
01:10:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really? The meatballs?
01:10:06
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, the meatballs with the regat was good.
01:10:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
01:10:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting. All right. That works. I definitely like the, ah obviously, we know I like the stuff, the sausage stuffed mushrooms.
01:10:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Those are great. The lobster rolls were killer. The little mini lobster rolls. Those are great. And then this year, they had that roast beef. Did you get the little roast beef slider?
01:10:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was roast beef with a horseradish mayo and some kind of, i don't know if it was a cranberry or date spread on it. It was like ah it was perfect. It was really, really good.
01:10:38
Anthony Mann Jr
Oh, nice.
01:10:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
good Hats off to the Epicurean Delight caterers again. They they killed it. That was awesome.
01:10:45
Anthony Mann Jr
they're They're good. I mean, they were even offered to make more of stuff that they ran out of.
01:10:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really well done.
01:10:50
Anthony Mann Jr
You know, you guys want this? and no No, no, no, no, there's plenty.
01:10:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:10:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:10:55
Anthony Mann Jr
Above and beyond.
01:10:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it was great. Matt, what was your favorite food there?
01:11:00
Matty Muscles
So I didn't stay for dinner. I had to come home.
01:11:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's right.
01:11:02
Matty Muscles
Yeah, I had to come home, play dad duty for a while.
01:11:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm sorry. I forgot that.
01:11:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
You missed that.
01:11:07
Matty Muscles
But I'll tell you what, like lunch, I hammered lunch. I mean, like you it was so good.
01:11:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did.
01:11:14
Matty Muscles
I felt so guilty and i I texted Tony.
01:11:14
RICK JAMES
You definitely did.
01:11:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
The tuna was good.
01:11:17
Matty Muscles
I'm like, listen, I'm sorry for pulling the old Irish goodbye. Like I feel I felt so guilty about not being able to stay for dinner because like obviously you guys raved about it from last year. But like, They just, just like stores, like they don't miss.
01:11:30
Matty Muscles
It's just like everything like from start to finish for the whole day, they don't miss.
01:11:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:11:36
Matty Muscles
And I want to say this too. It's like, they don't charge you a registration fee. Like if you can, if you can afford to make the trip and be there willing to network with like-minded individuals,
01:11:53
Matty Muscles
you don't, it's not going to cost you any more than taking off a day's worth of work. Like, it's just, it's kind of the way that I see it.
01:12:01
Matty Muscles
And I, I want, you know, everybody to know this, like, this is a no brainer event. If you're within driving distance, it's just, it's, it's going back to what you guys have talked about on the podcast before these grassroots event type things that are, what's that?
01:12:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:12:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Boutique.
01:12:20
Anthony Mann Jr
Boutique.
01:12:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Todd named them boutique events.
01:12:21
RICK JAMES
A boutique, as Todd todd Dickerson calls
01:12:21
Matty Muscles
Oh, yeah. Well, you Yeah.
01:12:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
01:12:23
Matty Muscles
yeah Boutique.
01:12:25
Matty Muscles
How does he say it?
01:12:26
Anthony Mann Jr
Boutique.
01:12:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Boutique.
01:12:27
RICK JAMES
A boutique show.
01:12:28
RICK JAMES
A boutique show.
01:12:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Todd Dickerson calls them boutiques.
01:12:29
Matty Muscles
Yeah. Boutique show. I can't say it with his accent, but it's so it's way better when he says it.
01:12:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:12:34
Matty Muscles
But like if you can make the time to get there, it's totally worth it.
01:12:41
Matty Muscles
Without a doubt. I will.
01:12:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. like
01:12:43
Matty Muscles
I'll tell you this right now. Like there will not be one that I will miss because I've been to three in a row and every year it's gotten better.
01:12:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. hundred percent.
01:12:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was great. Yeah. I mean, Tony and Janet killed it. I actually told him like next year, you guys really should do a registration fee.
01:13:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Even if it's only like 25 bucks, 30 bucks a guy's offset, some of the costs. Cause I guarantee that food is not cheap.
01:13:07
Matty Muscles
I completely agree.
01:13:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a lot of food.
01:13:08
Matty Muscles
And not only that, but on top of it, Alan from the insurance company, I can't think of it, but he was even saying it's like there are sponsors who are willing to write checks to help them offset costs and they refuse to take the money.
01:13:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, they got to do it.
01:13:26
Matty Muscles
And that just goes to show you like the kind of people that Tony and Janet are.
01:13:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
01:13:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, they're home runs. They're great people. And you you really, you're you're happy to see their events succeed every year. You know, they're
01:13:39
Matty Muscles
And their, their team, the team that they have there is top notch.
01:13:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
absolutely right down to the dogs, right down to the dogs.
01:13:43
RICK JAMES
Phenomenal. Yep.
01:13:46
RICK JAMES
Yep. The dogs. Yep.
01:13:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're great dogs.
01:13:48
Anthony Mann Jr
they're awesome
01:13:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God. I love those dogs.
01:13:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Another great event at S&S.
01:13:53
RICK JAMES
Can't wait for next year to see if they do. I'm sure it'll just as good. If not, but obviously it'd be better. So.
01:13:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. Who did you guys, anybody meet anybody for the first time out there?
01:14:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. Anybody want to shout out?
01:14:09
Matty Muscles
Yeah, you want to name him, Jay?
01:14:10
RICK JAMES
no No, No, I don't to name him.
01:14:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
um I'll start.
01:14:12
RICK JAMES
I'm just saying yeah.
01:14:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'll throw some guys out.
01:14:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
We met that. the
01:14:15
RICK JAMES
No, I met Sterling in person.
01:14:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
that There you go.
01:14:17
RICK JAMES
First time i met him in person. saw
01:14:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sterling's awesome.
01:14:20
RICK JAMES
He's great. Him and his daughters were there and stuff.
01:14:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's a great dude.
01:14:22
RICK JAMES
yeah was He's a great guy. and
01:14:24
RICK JAMES
I talked to on the phone before.
01:14:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
The Lowe's.
Young Entrepreneurs in Snow Business
01:14:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
The lows travel heavy, man. That's a whole family thing. they went The whole family went to Storm Day out there in Minnesota, and he came with the with the girls.
01:14:32
Anthony Mann Jr
And the daughters have their own brine company for residential.
01:14:38
RICK JAMES
Yeah, yeah, that was cool.
01:14:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah?
01:14:39
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, I thought that was really cool.
01:14:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's crazy.
01:14:40
RICK JAMES
That's Jonathan, Larry, yeah.
01:14:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
01:14:43
Matty Muscles
Yeah, I agree. I thought it was really cool to see to heat to see and meet them and hear about, um you know, what they're doing with their kind of little residential thing that they're getting off the ground.
01:14:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:14:55
Matty Muscles
talk about Talk about bringing the the next generation of Snowfighter into kind of like the forefront.
01:14:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
I met that Louis. low
01:15:02
Matty Muscles
um and And not only that, but the fact that they're both women, young women, um being a father of three young daughters, I thought that... I had a great conversation with both of them and with Sterling and I was extremely impressed.
01:15:11
RICK JAMES
That was cool.
01:15:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
01:15:17
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah, good family.
01:15:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, they're a great family. Absolutely. Very good family.
01:15:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
like ah Speaking of young people, though I met, the we all met actually, Louie DiMatteo.
01:15:23
Anthony Mann Jr
LCD, think.
01:15:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
The, um was it LCS?
01:15:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
LDC? LDM?
01:15:30
Anthony Mann Jr
ldcc their lcd
01:15:33
Anthony Mann Jr
ah lcd i think
01:15:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
ldm LDM maybe I don't know but he's a young gun he's uh we met him there and he was one of the guys I'm like yo come over and sit with us like you guys off to yourselves like this is what it's all about like doesn't matter if you're young like come sit this is where you're gonna learn have conversations and they came over and they uh they ate with us and no I did not make him bring me mushrooms that was the uh that was the one waitress kept pushing him on me she ended up with just leaving the tray on the table
01:15:54
RICK JAMES
Well, didn't you make him bring you mushrooms? I thought you made him bring you the mushrooms. Oh.
01:16:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, ah but no, that was cool to meet Louie.
01:16:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was, ah that was awesome.
01:16:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
um Got to see the, what's that?
01:16:11
RICK JAMES
Jonathan was there. Chris. Jonathan was there and his crew.
01:16:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jonathan was there. Yeah, I got to, I got to see all the winter stoners, Jonathan and yeah, winter stoners.
01:16:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Winter stoners.
01:16:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what I call them.
01:16:23
RICK JAMES
That's a good name.
01:16:26
RICK JAMES
Chris was there.
01:16:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:16:26
RICK JAMES
I can't call him a snow boss. so We have our own snow boss.
01:16:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's true. It's snow boss East snow boss East.
01:16:30
RICK JAMES
He's just Chris. yes Yeah.
01:16:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh man, that's funny. That's funny.
01:16:35
RICK JAMES
There's quite a few cool...
01:16:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Anybody else? ah Anybody else meet anybody or see anyone?
01:16:38
Anthony Mann Jr
I met a kid, Chris Minton. um he He was from local guy, actually like south of there a little bit, but he he has a trucking company. He does probably, but he also runs salt.
01:16:49
Anthony Mann Jr
So he was one of the guys I was talking to about some getting some salt.
01:16:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool.
01:16:52
Anthony Mann Jr
And then, yeah, that kid.
01:16:53
RICK JAMES
Was that the kind it was with Mike?
01:16:56
Matty Muscles
Yeah, he was there. He's a buddy of Mike's.
01:16:59
Anthony Mann Jr
Yeah. He had a beer.
01:17:00
Anthony Mann Jr
Yes, yes, yes. He was a friend of mine.
01:17:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's Mike's buddy.
01:17:04
Matty Muscles
Yeah, I met him too. It was great. It was great to talk with him. We actually, he he rides he rides snowmobiles up Tug Hill Way and is familiar with where our our camp is up in Racket Lake.
01:17:16
Matty Muscles
And yeah, we had a great conversation.
01:17:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
cool yeah i got to uh i got into town for storks the night before and uh i got to go out to dinner with the winter stoners there so uh had larry martin levon and uh and nate from vantage and then jonathan was there as well that was uh that was a really good conversation good time good to see those boys they uh
01:17:40
Matty Muscles
Hey, what was the deal with, there was a Vantage truck parked out in the lot with like a Ventrac on it and something else. they Did would they have a presence or what was that about?
01:17:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
i think they were just i think they did some properties before they came yeah i think they had a mower on the on the vent track there was a spray rig there was a spray rig on there and there was a 45 20 with uh a mower deck so i'd assume they probably did a property or two before they came so yeah that's uh that's nate nate's with vantage
01:17:52
RICK JAMES
think they were just there. think they were spraying. There was a sprayer on there, right? Was that a sprayer and then a mower?
01:18:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, yeah, it was good to see all those guys. Yeah, we only got one more event to go, right? Because we're not going to equip this year. So we got Patty Salmon October 2nd.
Upcoming Events and Gratitude
01:18:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it.
01:18:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
We'll call it a year.
01:18:25
Matty Muscles
That'll be fun.
01:18:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, yeah, it'll be great.
01:18:26
RICK JAMES
Yeah, Gary's zombie fun.
01:18:28
Anthony Mann Jr
I'll represent down in Louisville.
01:18:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
It'll be great.
01:18:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
01:18:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let us know how it goes.
01:18:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't go down there. I can't go down there and see you sweat like that in the hardscaping competition again.
01:18:39
Anthony Mann Jr
I'm not doing it this year.
01:18:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
I thought you were going to.
01:18:41
Anthony Mann Jr
Fuck that.
01:18:41
Anthony Mann Jr
no Nope. Nope. I got my guys doing it. I'm not. the I filled in because someone didn't make it last year.
01:18:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're not doing it.
01:18:47
Anthony Mann Jr
Because of college, they had final exams.
01:18:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha.
01:18:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I was worried about you last year. i was like, he's not going to make it.
01:18:52
Anthony Mann Jr
I got it.
01:18:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's dehydrated.
01:18:54
RICK JAMES
I think I'm going.
01:18:55
RICK JAMES
I think I'm going now, Steve.
01:18:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're going to go.
01:18:57
RICK JAMES
Well, I got invitation for the PBR Invitational to ride bulls that night, so I got to probably go to that.
01:19:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh well, I mean, that's important. That's important.
01:19:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
If you got it, if you got to go the competition, you got the hat.
01:19:06
RICK JAMES
I got to go ride bull, so I got the hat.
01:19:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
You got the hat already. You're good to go.
01:19:10
Anthony Mann Jr
Make sure you have the pimp vest on.
01:19:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
You should definitely wear the blue coat though.
01:19:16
RICK JAMES
That's where it came from. That's where we that's that's where we got it from.
01:19:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's it that's it all right cool anybody got anything else
01:19:25
Anthony Mann Jr
i just wanted to say thank you for um but the kind words about the panel discussion.
01:19:26
RICK JAMES
That's a night, boys.
01:19:31
Anthony Mann Jr
You know, it's nice to know that but I'm adding some value to it.
01:19:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
no problem man well deserved you guys crushed it the three you were awesome what happened jay what did you i missed it yeah
01:19:37
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Steve gave us notes.
01:19:41
RICK JAMES
said Steve gave us notes to read, so.
01:19:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah no they they were so they were awesome the three you killed it man give give credit where credit's due all three you were awesome on that you know there was a lot of engagement there
01:19:47
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it was great. was great.
01:19:52
Anthony Mann Jr
I think we got to get a hold of Mr.
01:19:54
Anthony Mann Jr
Dickerson and get a snow jobs fishing trip lined up here in the springtime.
01:20:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
big dick todd there it is top doggy sean's an ashore fisherman sean doesn't go offshore
01:20:02
Anthony Mann Jr
yep Right after the winter, go out and get the boys together.
01:20:05
Anthony Mann Jr
Sean's big fisherman, you know? Well...
01:20:13
RICK JAMES
Oh, William at the shore with baked potato chips.
01:20:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean says offshore fishing is easy. It's when sharks are constantly circling your feet where it's hard.
01:20:19
Anthony Mann Jr
Ha ha ha ha ha!
01:20:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh that That's so funny. ah But anyway, anybody got anything else, boys? that We'll wrap it there.
01:20:28
Anthony Mann Jr
That's it.
01:20:28
RICK JAMES
No, just want to thank ah tony Tony and Janet again for another great event. So it was a good time.
01:20:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. All right. Well, yeah, that's great. Thank you, Tony and Janet, again, on behalf of everybody for throwing such a great event. Thank you from gene for Gene and and Gene Sr. there. ah the the i mean, Storks just keeps killing it.
01:20:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
they They keep getting better every time out and can't wait to ah to do all the Pennsylvania events again next year. Anybody got anything else?
01:20:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, then we will wrap it. We'll cut it there. That'll do it for episode 137 of the Snow Jaws podcast main show. All right, thank the boys again for the time today. Well done on the panel, Anthony.
01:21:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Matty, you almost won the argument, but not quite.
01:21:14
Matty Muscles
This argument is not over.
01:21:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That is it, gang.
01:21:16
Matty Muscles
not. it's not it
01:21:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
that that It is now because I just muted your ass, so it's over now.
01:21:18
RICK JAMES
That's what keeps the show going. That's what keeps the show going.
01:21:19
Anthony Mann Jr
All right, we're going to get a boxing ring. We're going put some gloves on.
01:21:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.
01:21:23
Anthony Mann Jr
Put some metal plus Arctic on you boys and let you have fucking at it.
01:21:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh The argument is over because i muted the mic. So that's it, gang. Everybody be safe out there.
01:21:32
RICK JAMES
I have a microphone.
01:21:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's right. but
01:21:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
don't That's it, gang. Everybody have a safe week out there. Have a great week. Get your bids done. Keep pushing.