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Episode 74: Student Bodies featuring Kate Bellock

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​Spooooooky season is here and so is our dear friend Kate Bellock.  This librarian is kicking off our spook-tacular by taking us to Horror School with Student Bodies (1981) a horror-comedy parody of slasher films.  Directed by Mickey Rose and staring a bunch of unknowns (including an unforgettable unknown called The Stick), it skewers many tropes of the genre all while flinging jokes at such a rapid pace that it’s hard to linger on the ones that don’t land.  All in all, it’s a pretty good time, so tune in!

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Introduction to the Podcast

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That you would, if you could And you know that you should Yes, you know that you should
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Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. It's the only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much? And it's our inaugural episode of Spooky Season.
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yeah and we're your hosts my name is chris spooky anderson
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i were your host my name is chris booki anderson And with me, of course, I have ah my very scary co-host,

Guest Introduction: Kate Bellick

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Mr. Greg Bossy.
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Scariness gets me hot. Yes.
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He speaks for all of us. Unfortunately, speaking of hot, we do not have my lovely wife, Anna, with us this week. They have caught my cold. Listeners, you might hear I have a little bit of a cold, maybe a little bit of a sexy smokiness to my voice.
00:01:58
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Speaking of sexy smokiness, we have with us a very special guest. It's Kate Bellick. Kate, how are you? I'm good. I'm um' really happy to be here to talk about this movie with you guys. Yes. Silly, silly little movie that I love. This movie was so much fun. Listeners, this week we're talking about student bodies.

Discussion: 'Student Bodies' and Personal Connections

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And if you haven't seen student bodies, here's just a brief summary to hold in your mind for the rest of the episode.
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A faceless serial killer named The Breather stalks and kills about dozen high school students in a gonzo spoof of slasher films.
00:02:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that's nice and straightforward. Yeah. Now, Kate, you were very excited to bring us this one in a way that I could tell you have a personal relationship with student bodies. Tell me about you and student bodies.
00:03:07
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So this is the movie that I i have to watch every spooky season. If I don't if I don't watch student bodies, Halloween just can't happen. Like it just can't happen.
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And I first encountered it in high school. My ah best friend, Kaylin, shout out Kaylin, she introduced ah it to me.
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And I think she was introduced to it by her um her uncle, who was more like a cousin in terms of age. Very uncle cousin coded movie.
00:03:41
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Yeah, yeah. yeah Definitely. And it's kind of funny just because i really was not at the time, super well versed in the slasher genre, pretty much seen scream and that's it, which is a good one to learn okay to become versed in, in the genre. So it's so ah in your face about it, but yeah, it teaches you how to watch it. Yeah, definitely.
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ah And now, you know, I've seen seeing all of them, um probably not all of them, but I've seen most of the classics. So with each year, as I watch more, i kind of start to appreciate student bodies a little bit more for that, the parody aspect of it.
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Yes, it's a rich text that pulls from its tapestry of ab horror.

Initial Impressions and Memories of 'Student Bodies'

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Uh, so I had not seen this one before. I had always seen the cover, uh, you know, the DVD or the VHS tape back in the video store days, but it's sort of, it's not, it doesn't really grab you that much. The, the, the key art on this one, I got to say, i it just looked like, oh this is just younna me, another slasher with maybe some comedy elements.
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And I bet it's not particularly funny. That was my assumption. It turns out it was actually really quite Fair assumption. Yeah. Greg, had you seen this one before?
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No, I had not. I think that I've heard of it before. Like when someone said we're watching student bodies, i was it was kind of like, okay. Like it was not like a surprise or something, but I didn't really know a lot about it. But I will say that I remember from my childhood watching...
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like seeing my family watch a movie that the opening had ah like a perspective shot with like ah stalker or somebody walking and like a lot of heavy breathing.
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And I always thought that that was later in life. I saw blow up or blow out. I can't the John Travolta, Brian De Palma one. And there's that in the beginning. i was like, oh, that must have been what they're watching. And then I saw this movie and I was like, or maybe was it this movie that they were watching?
00:05:58
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And then I happened to watch Phantom of the Paradise this week. And in that, that's another diploma. There's yet another sequence of perspective camera with heavy breathing. And so I we' just wondering, is it is this like a trope?
00:06:11
Speaker
Yes. Okay. Largely initiated by, I'm going to say, ah Black Christmas and Halloween. Okay. Okay. yeah Good to know.

The Making of 'Student Bodies'

00:06:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So it could have really been anything that they were watching. Brother, we got to get a scare-a-thon going this spooky season. and I got to send you to school.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yeah. I know horror movies, just not the classics, just all the really bad ones. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the bad ones are so much fun. I completely understand. They're pretty good. Yeah.
00:06:40
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Well, you guys want to hear what I found out in terms of context of student bodies? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. i've I've been excited for this because I don't really know anything about how it came to be. so Well, it's actually, it may surprise and shock you.
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ha ha um yeah but
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I wish I had some context about the background of the film. Script director, actors on set. What was going on on screen? I want to hear some details.
00:07:36
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Gossip skin to all that shit. Can't imagine all the time.
00:07:52
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Ged Zooks Student Bodies came out on August 7th 1981 another August release for a horror movie same thing that happened before Terror in the Isles that's the same day my husband was born August 7th 1981 that's his birthday he'll be excited already you're learning amazing stuff yeah I can't wait to tell him when he gets home today yes if he comes back during the recording get him on mic So and it was directed by a guy named Mickey Rose, ah who also wrote it.
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And there were three taglines. All three taglines up appear on the poster. Oh, that's intriguing. Yes. 13 and a half murders plus 14, 1423 laughs equals student bodies.
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Tagline number two.
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okay tagline number two At last, the world's first comedy horror movie.
00:08:59
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Okay. I mean... sure if that's true. I don't know if that's true, but I also kind of feel like maybe that's the joke. Yeah, I don't know. i don't know. who I can't tell.
00:09:10
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Yes. Last one, number three. The Laugh Count Begins. That's... I like that. It's not bad. It's not All right, so Michael Mickey Rhodes was born on May 20th, 1935 in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn.
00:09:32
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That's right, he's a Brooklyn boy. And he went to high school with one Woody Allen. Who's that? the two of them were actually close friends.
00:09:43
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Hmm. And then they both attended NYU film school together. Go Violets!
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And unlike Woody, Mickey graduated from film school.
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So it's funny, isn't I not expecting any of this. Yeah. Yeah. This is from bizarro Woody Allen.
00:10:09
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And I think that speak it does have like a certain Brooklyn Jewish sense of humor to it. Yeah. So Mickey Rose, he worked mostly as a comedy writer.
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ah ah He worked with Woody Allen on What's Up Tiger Lily, Take the Money and Run, and Bananas.
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But he also wrote for a bunch of other people. ah He started off writing for Sherry Lewis and Lamb Chop. Oh, good for him. but he also wrote for the Sid Caesar Show.
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the Tim Conway show, the Dean Martin show, the brothers brothers show. And for 982 episodes, he wrote for the tonight show with Johnny Carson.
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Wow.
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So just a solid working comedy writer. Yeah. and That was just a job that you could have. Yeah.
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So in 1981, uh, There was a writer's strike.
00:11:16
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It's kind of like the strike that the Writers Guild had a couple years ago for sharing streaming revenue, but this strike was for ah establishing compensation for pay TV or for cable TV.

'Student Bodies' in the 1981 Comedy Landscape

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ah So the studios, they couldn't buy any new scripts at this time, but they could produce scripts that they already had sitting around. And obviously with Mickey Rose being a guy that was already in the Hollywood system, somebody optioned a script for him for student bodies at some point.
00:11:49
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Yeah. So an important piece of context, just in terms of where movies were at at the time, ah Halloween had come out in 1978 and the slasher genre had blown up in America by then.
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ah Both prom night in 1980 and Friday the 13th came out in 1980. But another movie that came out in 1980 was airplane, which really established the market for gonzo comedies. So these two things were ripe to collide.
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So Paramount decides now is the time to take a flyer on student bodies and they green light it for about a half a million dollars. But production was moved to Houston to hire non-union workers and non-union actors.
00:12:39
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Okay. Yep, that's right.
00:12:45
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Bummer alarm. Bummer alarm. This next bit is kind of a bummer. Student bodies is a scab film But such is life.
00:12:56
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That's crazy. Yeah, nobody's perfect. Hey, you can't place morality on art. It exists outside of us. ah I don't know. Anyway, ah Mickey Rose was ah hired to direct because what else was he doing?
00:13:13
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You know, the writers are on strike. Might as well. But... Michael Ritchie was brought on as a producer and credited as Alan Smithy as the producer.
00:13:27
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So there are those that theorize that Michael Ritchie, like phantom directed this movie. Okay. Richie is famous for previously having directed the pageant comedy Smile.
00:13:44
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He also directed the Bad News Bears at this point. So he was sort of a reliable comedy director at the time. Sure. Maybe would have been looking for work, but didn't want to run afoul of the unions, you know? Right.
00:13:56
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Because ah the Teamsters were in a sympathy strike at the time, I believe. Mm-hmm.
00:14:03
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and Yeah, he would also go on to direct Fletch and Fletch Lives, Wildcats, and The Golden Child. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. yeah Okay. Now, most of the Houston cast of this film never worked again.
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Star Kristen Reiter, who played Toby, made a go at Hollywood, but it didn't quite work out. ah She ended up moving to Germany to front a rock and roll band called Wedding.
00:14:33
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And we have their hit song Momentary Something as our outro today. That's exciting. want to hear a little bit more from Kristen Reiter.
00:14:47
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I'm sorry that I forgot the second half of the name of your song, Kristen. I should have written it down.
00:14:55
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huh Now, she eventually after that moved back to California and she became a music teacher working at like one of those rock and roll music schools. Good for her.
00:15:09
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Now, the other thing that i want to address is the rumor as to who played the character of the breather. Yeah, I was curious about this. Did the voiceover on the breather. It was credited to one Richard Brando, but that was a ah nom de plume.
00:15:25
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And the two theories are this is either Jerry Belson, who was a relative of one of the producers, I believe, or famed standup comedian Richard Belzer.
00:15:38
Speaker
Huh. Yes. I've heard that one. hadn't heard the the first one you mentioned. Well, the main piece of confirmation that it was Belzer was there was an interview with him in the AV club where somebody asked him about it.
00:15:53
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And he said, you know, I've heard it and it sounds like me. I don't remember doing it, but also I don't remember a lot of things that I was doing in the early 80s. Wow. Whereas like someone involved with the production confirmed that it was Jerry Belson.
00:16:09
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So okay I think I'm pretty sure it was Jerry Belson.
00:16:15
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I like that their names, their last names are so similar to it. Is it Belson or Belzer? It's like, that's interesting. What a funny funny world, eh? Yeah, right?
00:16:27
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So Student Bodies was a moderate success. It made $5 million dollars on a half million dollar budget. And it was an early cable staple because it involved almost no cussing.
00:16:40
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Hmm, that's true, actually. They addressed that point. Yeah. Almost no cussing. That's right. Yeah.
00:16:49
Speaker
So other comedies of 1981, if you were looking get your ribs tickled at the cinema.
00:16:58
Speaker
So you've got Stripes.
00:17:04
Speaker
OK. ah The first half of Stripes is a very good movie. I've never seen it, but I know it's considered a classic. The first half of them is at boot camp and it's really good. And then the second half they get out of boot camp and are driving a military RV across Germany. And that's the part that everybody hates and no one cares about.
00:17:22
Speaker
This reminds me of full metal jacket in a way to feel weird. Same thought. Yeah. Yeah. Very similar structurally. You got Arthur this year.
00:17:33
Speaker
That lovable drunk. Everybody loves that guy. Yeah. I don't think anyone, any single person on Earth has watched the movie Arthur in the last 20 years. Probably not.
00:17:45
Speaker
You got Nice Dreams, the classic Cheech and Chong. Oh, okay.
00:17:51
Speaker
I know it played on Comedy Central a lot, but I never watched it. You got History of the World Part 1. Oh, yeah, it's good to be the king. Yeah.
00:18:02
Speaker
Arguably a comedy, you got My Dinner with Entrez. and I've never seen it, but I like that you're putting it here. i like My Dinner with Andre. It's a good movie. A lot of people do.
00:18:13
Speaker
I like the community episode about it. I haven't seen the movie itself. right If you like that, you'll love My Dinner with Andre.
00:18:24
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ah ah You got ah Incredible Shrinking Woman, Joel Schumacher's debut. How about that? taking it over from John Landis after it went over budget.
00:18:37
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And you also got the other classic horror parody, Saturday the 14th, which came out literally one week later. That's crazy.
00:18:49
Speaker
I don't know that one. Well, it's, if if I remember right, not as good as this. How could it be? How could anything be better than this?
00:19:01
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Absolutely. 100%. Do you guys ah want to get to the plot of student bodies? Yeah. Yeah. Plot gets me hot. Yeah.
00:19:27
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Plot bumper, listen to me.

Plot Analysis of 'Student Bodies'

00:19:31
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I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
00:19:40
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
00:19:53
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So we get an opening text that reads, this motion picture is based on an actual incident. Last year, 26 horror films were released. None of them lost money.
00:20:06
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So instantly the tone is set. That's what a great piece of opening text does.
00:20:13
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Then we get an exterior of a suburban house, ah very reminiscent of ah The house from Halloween. The house from Nightmare on Elm Street.
00:20:24
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The house in pretty much any of these movies.
00:20:27
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The house is very well cast. And then we get a ah the POV shot that Greg was talking about of the breather breathing. And approaching the house. And there's some on-screen text that says Halloween.
00:20:41
Speaker
And then it fades out. And it says Friday the 13th. And then it fades out. And it says Jennifer Jason Lee's birthday. No, Jamie Lee Curtis. I was like, wait a second. It would be an odd choice.
00:20:54
Speaker
It would be very odd. I mean, we hadn't even gotten to fast times at Ridgemont High yet, don't think. Now, ah inside, there's a teen girl named Julie, and she's babysitting an unseen child.
00:21:10
Speaker
And she gets a phone call from Toby, who will actually end up being the hero of our movie, who warns her about being, uh, Toby warns her about like being imprudent. She's like, don't, you shouldn't have crazy things happen you. Crazy things happen to people who do crazy things.
00:21:25
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Uh, because Toby is a very prudent gal. And this opening is also incredibly reminiscent of scream, which I love. Then, uh,
00:21:37
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Julie hears a cat meowing outside and she goes to check it out and opens the door, but it's a dog that's meowing. Yeah. Which is just a really funny visual gag.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah. I like that. but It's so simple. And this also is sort of exemplary of the problem that I had writing a summary of this movie, because every scene follows this sort of Rube Goldberg logic of gags.
00:22:03
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If I don't explain like nine gags in every scene, then I can't really describe what's happening in the scene. So I just have to like paint a very broad picture and just be like, oh, ah you know, this gal gets killed, you know?
00:22:17
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Yeah. It's... The fine line I have to walk. The challenges. It's tough. It's tough.
00:22:26
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So the phone rings again. Thank you. i You're the wind beneath my wings, Kate. So there's ah the phone. It starts ringing. And ah she picks it up and and there's heavy breathing.
00:22:39
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And it keeps on ringing and we get a couple of visual gags with the phone. You know, it's really, it starts like rattling and then she picks it up and the, I think the phone comes. Did you read it as the phone coming? That's how I read it. Yeah.
00:22:54
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Oh, I, I saw it as drool, but I'm always going to see it that way now. Yeah. The phone comes out of the receiver.
00:23:06
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And then she goes to the kitchen and where she sees a sink full of dishes and she grabs a snack of some chicken. And then her boyfriend, Charlie grabs from behind in a classic, ah you know, shock.
00:23:18
Speaker
And she says, he says, ah what's that chickeny taste? And that had me rolling. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:28
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ah and then And then the two of them go upstairs to screw. and People in this movie, I love, they they don't it fuck they don't have sex. They screw. They ball, you know? oh But before they can get down to it, Charlie hops in the shower.
00:23:44
Speaker
And that's when the breather comes in and stabs Julie to death with paperclips. And then wraps Charlie up in a big contractor bag. And then we get a title on screen that says body count one,
00:23:57
Speaker
two That's going to be a visual gag that runs throughout the film. And I really enjoy how, like when I first saw it, it was like body count one, but where's the, oh, there it is. but There's a lot of that. It's like, we don't get the body count until we see the body happen. Even if we know there's a count going to be added to it, we still wait. And I love that timing on that.
00:24:17
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Yeah. This movie has an excellent sense of timing. Very good sense of timing. So the adults come home. Mom is upset at the state of the house. Dad finds chicken on the floor and then like glues in the bite that fell out of the babysitter's mouth back onto the chicken and puts it back into the fridge. It's a rubber band. He puts a rubber band. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:44
Speaker
Very nice. Chicken. Broken. two Broken. And you you also, you keep hearing the mother scream from like another room and the husband walks in. She's like, the TV is on.
00:24:58
Speaker
And it's just like when are they going to find the bodies? When are they going to find the bodies? They notice literally literally everything else in the house. And what's also really strange is there's no child that she was babysitting. No. That never comes up at all.
00:25:10
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No sign of the child.
00:25:14
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but So the next day, there's a funeral at the high school presided over by Principal Peters. Really great idea to have the funeral at the high school. Yes. With the cheerleaders and their black pom-poms.
00:25:27
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Yeah. And it's all because it's also a pep rally too. Yes. He does explain that due to budget cuts, the funeral, the school pride parade, the pep rally, the homecoming game and the prom are all happening on the same day.
00:25:44
Speaker
And that' that's another great example of something that you hear it happening this movie and you're not sure whether or not it's a gag. And so you're not sure whether or not you have to write it down. And then you find out that that is what's going to be happening in the movie. and it's not just a gag.
00:26:01
Speaker
But at at the pep rally slash funeral, we meet Toby, our heroine, and her boy and friend, but not boyfriend, Hardy. Toby is like always wearing a cardigan and has a page boy haircut.
00:26:16
Speaker
And she was very earnest and kind of has the affect of ah Michael Cera's girlfriend on Arrested Development. and
00:26:29
Speaker
You know, I love egg. Yeah. Yeah. hu ah But she's also very charming in her own way. She's a great character.
00:26:41
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and And Hardy is, you know, everybody else I'm going to say is mostly position players with a couple of like stars, but nobody embarrasses themselves here. No, no. Everybody's very functional. ah So Toby sees another a young couple go off to screw in the back of a nearby car.
00:27:02
Speaker
The gal doesn't have her diaphragm. You never hear about diaphragms anymore. Not these days. oh So the guy sneaks off to get condoms.
00:27:13
Speaker
ah So the gal gets clubbed to death with a wooden horse head. and the guy comes back with a sack full of groceries, which I thought was also a great gag. Like while he was at the store, he clearly picked up like a loaf of bread.
00:27:25
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ah But he gets garbage bagged and our body count is back up to three and four. There's also a fun through line, which is why I said what I said at the beginning, because everyone there's always like a man will approach a woman and he'll be like kissing. She's like, not now. And then he'll say, oh, but blah, blah, blah gets me hot.
00:27:46
Speaker
And so the first one, i don't know if they said it during the babysitting one, but during the funeral, it's just like, funerals get me hot. And it's just every scene where I saw people kissing, i like, what's going to make somebody hot?
00:27:58
Speaker
What's going to make somebody hot this time? I can't wait to find out what makes him hot. Yeah, that is that was my favorite running gag. That was my baddie award. i That's why i wasn't calling it out. Yeah, that's fair. But it's almost too good to not call out. And you should still keep it the award. But I'll pretend like I don't know.
00:28:15
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Yeah. Yeah. We'll all be amazed. and it It is great. So ah Toby, Toby goes to investigate and finds the bodies in the car.
00:28:27
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Then we catch up with Toby later in Mr. Duncan's woodshop class. Duncan extols the virtues of making wooden horse head bookends.
00:28:38
Speaker
And then the character that you really hated to see coming enters. It's Mwamba, the kid from Africa. Yeah. Yeah. They use him to make a gag about busing.
00:28:50
Speaker
They're busing him in from Africa. And it was such a long trip. He only arrived on the last day of school.
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah. not Not one of the better...
00:29:08
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yeah that one gets a thumb down but we press on uh toby finds a blood-soaked horse head and text flashes on the screen next to mr dumpkin suspect then we get obviously what's going to be one of the highlights of the film a locker room scene there we see a little bit more of another one of our high school students. That'll be important.
00:29:33
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Patty Patty is the, uh, pretty girl who wants to be, uh, prom queen. And you can tell this was 1981 because she is just rail thin and super tall.
00:29:45
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And, uh, and ah the breather is there watching, you know, the locker room scene. And, uh, we get a POV shot of him and he's always making like running gags between his breathing, you know, little asides and he's clearly jacking off.
00:30:05
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And then, all the gals leave except for Toby. She doesn't like to get changed in front of the other gals. She's very demure. Uh, she removes her purple cardigan, which just has a button on it that says no to reveal another button pinned to her bra strap that says for the last time I said no.
00:30:26
Speaker
What a payoff. I didn't even catch the first button, but I didn't catch the second one, which is hilarious to Yeah, it's a button each layer.
00:30:34
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yeah and we've seen that no button in like the previous two scenes. i clock it So to have it pay off two scenes later was really satisfying.
00:30:43
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But ah Toby hears the breather and she runs away. She runs down into the boiler room where she runs into Malvert, the ah ah very bizarre janitor.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yeah, very bizarre. He was apparently a former teacher who had been in an accident and now had brain damage, but they still employed him as a janitor, is his backstory. And he's played by an actor whose name is The Sticker.
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, that was the stick was his stage name. I did not write down his real name, but he was a local stand of a comedian who was also double jointed and just a very strange guy.
00:31:26
Speaker
Very tall, very beanpole and yeah very flexible. The flexibility is a real surprise when you finally see it, because he's like when I say tall, I mean, like we're like talking like seven feet tall, not like six two or something like he seems like he's a very tall person.
00:31:46
Speaker
And very lean and very long fingers like it. Someone who knows. Like, this is definitely some sort of genetic condition. I forget what it is called, but I know that the I think I think the guy who's the lead singer of Deer Hunter has it.
00:32:03
Speaker
Yeah. One of those things like like almost like a Joey Ramones. Yeah, he definitely had it, too.
00:32:10
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ah Now. Yeah, she runs into Malvert and everything's fine, I guess. They have some sort of interaction where he's weird, but then we cut to the next scene. And the next scene is the parade.
00:32:22
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big parade. Yes, get Principal Peters addressing the crowd again, doing what he does best. And I love Principal Peters. I thought he was a great character. a good time. He's a good time. Absolutely, yeah.
00:32:34
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He had a great voice. Now, and he says, ah hasn't there been enough senseless killing? Let's have some killings that make sense. Yeah.
00:32:46
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Great line.
00:32:48
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Ralph and Dagmar, two local kids, go inside a parade float to fool around. I'm assuming Ralph says, come on, baby, parades turn me on. that's He said something like that. yeah Hollow bulls hot bulls get me hot because the float is a bull. That makes sense. I've seen this movie a lot of times.
00:33:12
Speaker
No, thank you. We appreciate your expertise.
00:33:16
Speaker
I love when you have that kind of relationship with the movie.
00:33:21
Speaker
So Ralph has to double back. Kate, why you have to double back? Was it condoms again? No, I think it was, ah it was moving too fast or something. And it was, she, she was being jostled and she wanted a smoother ride.
00:33:35
Speaker
Something like that. That makes sense. There's always an excuse for the dude to leave. Yeah. Yeah. But the breather is in there and kills Dagmar with an eggplant.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yes. Somehow. Yeah. And then Ralph comes back and he goes in the trash bag. This movie knows men are trash. yeah Bodies five and six.
00:34:01
Speaker
Now, Toby finds these bodies, too. And the whole para parade parade parade sees her with the dead bodies and Malvert gets the student line now are the titular line. Malvert gets to say student bodies, student bodies.
00:34:18
Speaker
And so now people are beginning to suspect Toby, but then we cut to an old man sitting at a desk who tells us that movies that get an R rating tend to do better at the box office in this genre.
00:34:34
Speaker
And what movie can earn an R rating for having prurient content, sexual content, nudity, or a vulgar words referring to the act?
00:34:47
Speaker
And so with that, we must say, fuck you. And then it cuts the MPAA rated R screen out. It's such a good gag. Because I also feel like he's like, it's so we just have to say, fuck you. Like, it feels so sincere, despite the fact that they're just trying to curse. It's really beautiful.
00:35:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:12
Speaker
So now everyone in school thinks that Toby did it. So she gets questioned by the faculty in the principal's office, where she insists that she wouldn't kill a fly.
00:35:23
Speaker
and then she kills a fly and we get body count six and a half. Nice. So Principal Peters sends Toby to head shrinker, Dr. Sigmund. And the two of them have a dialogue about her relationship with sex and her father and this, that, and the other.
00:35:38
Speaker
ah But back in the principal's office, the phone rings and Ms. Van Dyke, one of the teachers, gets another one of my favorite lines.
00:35:50
Speaker
I'll get it. I'm farthest from the phone. And then someone responds with, that makes sense. That makes sense. It's a beautiful moment.
00:36:03
Speaker
Wouldn't you know it? It's the breather. And he says he will kill next at the big game.
00:36:11
Speaker
So after her meeting with Dr. Sigmund, Toby goes back to English class and the PA announces that she's probably the killer. And then we're off to the big game.

Climax and Twist Ending Discussion

00:36:20
Speaker
The big game is a sight gag between one very large team and one very small team.
00:36:26
Speaker
There might also be racial aspects to this,
00:36:31
Speaker
but if it weren't for that, I think this would be a solid gag. If it could have just been one very, cause you know, it is always funny in high school when you have some kids who've like gone through puberty and some kids who haven't and seeing them go up against each other.
00:36:45
Speaker
That's great stuff. Yeah. Anyway, uh, Another couple sneaks off under the bleachers to screw. The gal complains about garbage being dropped under the bleachers on them. And the guy responds, come on, baby. Garbage gets me hot.
00:37:03
Speaker
And then Toby goes to investigate. She follows them down there. But she gets knocked out cold. And this couple gets killed, too. I believe the gal gets an eraser stuffed in her mouth.
00:37:16
Speaker
And the kid gets bagged. The guy gets bagged. Bodies seven and eight. So I guess the gal only counts as half a body. You hate to see it. And bodies seven and eight are found in the center of the scrimmage.
00:37:32
Speaker
So Toby is now sure that she's going to take the rap for this killing because Toby was also found in this stack. But she's able to sneak out in the meat wagon.
00:37:44
Speaker
So now no one knows where Toby is. So faculty questions Hardy in front of the corpses, not knowing that Toby was also with those corpses in a body bag.
00:37:54
Speaker
They get a phone call from the killer who says that he will strike next at prom. And then a corpse fart clears the room. See, these are all like gags. Yeah. so Progress the plot. It's the movie's almost like a Rube Goldberg machine.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, very much so.
00:38:13
Speaker
oh So Toby needs to go to the prom in order to investigate. But she's going to need a disguise. So she steals a Sandy costume from last year's production of Grease.
00:38:27
Speaker
Non-musical version of Grease. Hardy mentions that. Yes. The rights to the music, which is really great. Yeah. I'd probably like that one better. We did Greece my senior year of high school and I was president of the drama club.
00:38:42
Speaker
And I was like, I'm not, I'm not doing Greece. I'm not, I'm not, I hate Greece. I'm not, I'm not doing Greece. You guys have a good time with Greece. We did it my senior year too, but I never did the musicals. So I, I wasn't involved.
00:38:56
Speaker
Okay. Fair enough. Uh, now. Then get another cutaway gag. This time it's the breather summarizing our all our suspects with like little gags.
00:39:10
Speaker
Oh, do you think Toby did it ah I think she's gay. You know, goes like that. That was a good breather, Chris.
00:39:23
Speaker
Thank you. Maybe i played the breather. I would have been two months old at this point. no So ah Toby and Hardy, they want to investigate the principal's office.
00:39:36
Speaker
And so they talk Malvert into stealing the keys for them. It's a great moment. Yeah. You get to see Malvert really doing some wild physical gags with that wild body of his.
00:39:48
Speaker
Yeah. Also, the ah she's like, did you get the keys? And he puts his hands out. She's like, I didn't say his cheese. I said his keys. And that's when he produces the keys.
00:39:59
Speaker
And then later, the principal's like, oh, my keys and my cheese. And my And I just really, I really love that a lot. That's a great payoff. I missed that one. It is so good. And my cheese.
00:40:13
Speaker
Now, ah meanwhile, Patty loses prom queen. She's very upset. ah So she sneaks off with an ROTC guy to forget her cares with a little bit of bawling. But the ROTC guy, he forgot his condom too.
00:40:27
Speaker
These guys. Yeah, right. need to wrap it. No glove, no love, fellas. Come on. And then Patty gets killed in in the woodshop. I forgot how she got killed.
00:40:38
Speaker
I don't know if we see, but the woodshop. The crown is the crown. Oh, yes. She goes gets impaled on the crown. You've brought me the crown. I'm prom queen after all.
00:40:50
Speaker
And we did see in a previous scene the principal get named prom queen out of respect for him having to deal with all these dead students. So that's a little hint as to who our killer might be. We've also got the shop teacher in the closet just hearing the murder. Yes.
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah, so we now can rule out the shop teacher.
00:41:12
Speaker
So the ROTC guy comes back and he doesn't mind that Patty's dead and he starts humping away anyway. He gets sacked mid hump. We've got bodies nine and 10.
00:41:23
Speaker
Now the woodshop teacher who's been hiding in a utility closet the whole time. He is discovered. He chides the breather for poor chainsaw maintenance.
00:41:35
Speaker
But then the breather kills him to body. Number 11. Okay.
00:41:40
Speaker
Then, or meanwhile, Toby, who has been digging through the principal's office while Hardy investigates the principal's assistant's office, has found photos of all the lady victims inside the principal's desk.
00:41:56
Speaker
And then the principal shows up and strips nude except for having i love New York written on his chest and he's wearing boxers. Really long boxers, like a really old fashioned style boxers.
00:42:07
Speaker
Yeah, classic old man boxers, like down like past the knee. And he tries to kill Toby with a typing team trophy, which is a very difficult sentence, and I just crushed it.
00:42:23
Speaker
But ge he slips on some marbles and impales himself. Body number 12.
00:42:31
Speaker
So Toby runs to tell Hardy what happened. He was checking in the assistant's office and she finds him dead with a glove stuffed in his mouth. And these rubber gloves have been a recurring image throughout the film as like red herrings. Cause we know the killers wearing rubber gloves, but we see like nine pairs of rubber gloves. yeah Everybody has these same gloves.
00:42:54
Speaker
So the assistant, Ms. Mumsley revealed that she killed the boys while the principal killed the girls. There were two killers. Once again, just like scream,
00:43:07
Speaker
Toby runs away and she's chased through the high school halls by adults and then some dead people, some dead children. It starts getting very surreal. and She jumps out of a window and it turns out it was all a dream.
00:43:21
Speaker
Toby wakes up surrounded by the entire cast, but different. She says to the, the, the woodshop teacher, she says, you aren't even my woodshop teacher anymore. And he says, I will always be your French teacher.
00:43:36
Speaker
That's going to be my baddie award, by the way. that was I loved that joke. I'll get into it later, but yeah. um But Hardy is still the same.
00:43:48
Speaker
And so Toby decides that it's timely finally time for the two of them to bone. And so they go out into the woods, but then Toby dons the gloves and chokes her out.
00:44:00
Speaker
You mean Hardy? What a twist. Hardy, yes, Hardy dons the gloves and chokes Toby out. But then we go ah to Toby's funeral and Hardy goes to leave flowers on her grave and as she reaches up through the dirt and chokes him out.
00:44:18
Speaker
Nice. The end. Very nice. What a movie.

Final Thoughts and Ratings

00:44:24
Speaker
So final thoughts, five star ratings. Greg, why don't you kick us off?
00:44:30
Speaker
ah So for watchability, I'm going to give this a four. ah The racism, while not terribly prevalent, the some of the jokes did kind of upset me, so I'm just going to put it at a four.
00:44:41
Speaker
um The stuff in it that is good is just just a really good time. I was genuinely surprised by this movie. um I thought that, like typically, i know we've had, when we had popcorn on i remember I was like, i you know...
00:44:57
Speaker
Comedy is trying to relieve tension. Horror is trying to build tension. i feel like this movie is not really trying to build a lot of tension. was just trying to be funny. And so i I really appreciated that aspect of things where it wasn't like, oh, isn't this scary? It's like, it's of course, it's not scary, but it's a horror movie. It's using the tropes. And I enjoyed i like how horror movies do that. They kind of discuss other horror movies. And this one is certainly doing that.
00:45:19
Speaker
As far as weirdness goes, it's not that weird. I think it's just it's a comedy. It's a parody because it's parodying other things. It's stuff that you've seen before, just in a heightened context, which is usually not that weird, just a bit heightened. So I'm going to say two.
00:45:34
Speaker
Fair enough. What about you, Kate? Where did you land in terms of watchability and weirdness? ah Well, I mean, obviously I've seen it so many times that as far as watchability, I must find it.
00:45:49
Speaker
I find it very watchable. Although I think um Greg has a ah point about some of the ah yeah less a great jokes. yeah So I might i also say for and for weirdness, it definitely could be weirder.
00:46:09
Speaker
um to me as watching it at 16 it was one of the weirdest things i'd ever seen yeah but you know i've i have a lot more i've seen a lot more movies since then but uh it definitely could be weirder but i think it it walks a nice line so i'm gonna give it a three on weirdness okay fair enough I'm going to give it a watchability of about a three and a half.
00:46:32
Speaker
I thought there are obviously some really solid gags in here. There are also some clunkers. I don't want to say it's like constantly hitting, you know, but when it does hit, it hits pretty hard. yeah and And there are only a couple of things where, you know, you get a little bummed out and it takes you a little bit out of it.
00:46:48
Speaker
ah But I think also, if you're a slasher fan, you'll, you'll especially like it. I'm not quite sure how broad its appeal would be outside of people who are interested in horror, but maybe for weirdness, I gave it a ah two. I feel like it's more of a guilty pleasure than something that's sort of weird.
00:47:08
Speaker
It does have sort of an air of unearned confidence to it, you know? And also, you know, you're not seeing out a lot of great actors, you know. No. They're good, but they're not great.
00:47:21
Speaker
Yeah. It almost has, like, the vibe of watching a feature-length YouTube video for some reason. Yes. I like that. There is just sort of...
00:47:32
Speaker
yeah there's There's an air of like a hint of amateurishness and a hint of like not everybody being Hollywood pretty that I think is just a unusual enough that I would say it's worth remarking.
00:47:47
Speaker
But with that, do guys want to go on a little bit of a tangent? Yes. Yes, please.

Hollywood's Alan Smithy Pseudonym

00:47:59
Speaker
Sure, the movie's the main event. But that's not the case with this segment. No need to be sad lament.
00:48:12
Speaker
Cause we're going on a tangent.
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, that's the name of this segment. Going on a tangent.
00:48:34
Speaker
Tangent.
00:48:47
Speaker
So this week our tangent is going to be about famed Hollywood director Alan Smithy. Hmm. It was, of course, a pseudonym that's used by directors.
00:48:58
Speaker
Now... Before 1968, the DGA rules did not allow the use of pseudonym. This prevented producers from pressuring directors into using a pseudonym.
00:49:10
Speaker
You know, like if you had directed under a pseudonym, then they could fire you and replace you with another guy and have him go on the pseudonym and be like, oh yeah, same director, don't need to.
00:49:21
Speaker
Hmm.
00:49:24
Speaker
This changed when director Robert Toten was fired from a movie called The Death of a Gunfighter and was replaced by Don Siegel. But they ended up working on it almost 50-50, and neither of them felt like it was their creative work.
00:49:42
Speaker
So the Directors Guild allowed them to use pseudonym. their first idea was Al Smith, but then they realized that there were too many people actually named Al Smith. So then they changed it to Al Smythe, which then became Alan Smithy. That was what they laid.
00:50:01
Speaker
Ironically, the first Alan Smithy film was praised by both the New York times and Roger Ebert for being quote sharply directed and allowing the story to unfold naturally.
00:50:14
Speaker
How interesting. Yeah. Yeah. They just didn't feel like it was theirs, I guess. Now, since then, it's been used when directors have successfully argued to a Directors Guild of America panel that they did not have creative control and they were not happy with the final product.
00:50:31
Speaker
Hmm. and Okay.
00:50:35
Speaker
So here's a couple of famous examples.
00:50:40
Speaker
Anderson House. who was the only second unit director to be granted Alan Smithy status. And he got that for, uh, doing second unit on twilight zone, the movie and the part where, uh, yeah.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yeah. He was like, I don't want my name on that. And they were like, we understand that. Let's get you out there. Now, uh, you also got David Lynch, uh, went for Alan Smithy on the TV edit of Dune.
00:51:08
Speaker
okay. Okay. know Dennis Hopper ah did it for a movie called Catch Fire.
00:51:18
Speaker
William Friedkin did it for the like echo horror movie The Guardian. thought that's the movie. I think it is. Okay.
00:51:29
Speaker
And then Martin Brest did it for the in-flight versions of The Scent of a Woman and Meet Joe Black. Oh, wow. And Michael Mann did it for the TV versions of Heat and the Insider.
00:51:45
Speaker
Okay.
00:51:48
Speaker
Arguably the most famous use of Alan Smithy was when Arthur Hiller directed the movie and Alan Smithy film Burn Hollywood Burn. Yeah. And then successfully pleaded to get his name taken off of that movie.
00:52:03
Speaker
That's how I learned what it was. Uh, because I had a subscription to entertainment weekly at the time. And i was like, Alan Smith, he's like a thing. sure is. Yeah. And there are also a couple of films where they like successfully erased who directed them.
00:52:20
Speaker
Like, we don't know who directed the barking dog 1978 or gypsy angels of 1980. Okay. Okay. or gypsy angels of nineteen eighty s okay Yeah, and then 1995 Raging Angels and Smoke and Lightning.
00:52:37
Speaker
We don't know who directed those. Smoke and Lightning was something that just came up recently, I feel like. and I feel like that's true. Now I feel like I need to track down Smoke and Lightning.
00:52:49
Speaker
And I thought that that was a claymation or stop motion show from Netflix. I mean, it's not the most original name. I'm sure if you...
00:53:04
Speaker
Smoke and Lightning, 1995 film. Two Miami car mechanics borrow a luxury car for a night. Unaware contains classified documents. Okay, it starred Christopher Atkins, who we talked about in our episode on Quigley. Yeah, that's right.
00:53:20
Speaker
That's right. All right, I got to track down Smoke and Lightning. Yep.
00:53:27
Speaker
Well, you guys want to play a game? Yeah. All right. Let's talk about... Prophets.
00:53:57
Speaker
You can make a movie with a lot of But it doesn't matter if it doesn't turn profit. They want profits.
00:54:07
Speaker
A whole lot of profits.
00:54:10
Speaker
This film better turn a profit.

Box Office Game: Horror Parody Films

00:54:23
Speaker
That's right, it's the profit game.
00:54:30
Speaker
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you, we're doing it this week with horror parodies. See if we can, let me know about the profitability of horror parodies. Okay.
00:54:41
Speaker
So I'm going give you a title of a film, ah brief description and its budget. And I want you both to tell me what you think it took in at the global box office. Whoever gets it closest will get the point.
00:54:54
Speaker
Everybody ready? Yeah. but no I'm going to be really bad at this. These are basically guessing games, so you're we're going to see who actually does better than the other, because we never really know.
00:55:05
Speaker
No one ever comes on and our games and does well. So don't worry about that.
00:55:13
Speaker
Question number one. Zombieland. A shy student trying to reach his family, a gun-toting bruiser, and a pair of sisters team up to trek across a zombie-filled America.
00:55:25
Speaker
Zombieland had a budget of $23,600,000. Greg, what did you think it took in at the $165 million. Okay. Kate, what do you think? I'll say $150,000 million. $150 million? $150,000 million? $150 million. Yeah, sorry. I know. Congratulations, Kate. You were correct.
00:55:41
Speaker
thousand million ah hundred and fifty million hundred fifty thousand million fifty two million yeah no sorry ah know congratulations kate you were correct That one took in $102,392,080. That's the Woody Jesse Eisenberg one, right?
00:56:04
Speaker
Yeah, that's the one. yeah Never seen it. I haven't either.
00:56:09
Speaker
Question number two. Young Frankenstein. Ooh.
00:56:15
Speaker
An American grandson of the infamous scientist struggling to prove that his grandfather was not as insane as people believe is invited to Transylvania, where he discovers the process that reanimates a dead body.
00:56:28
Speaker
Now, Young Frankenstein had a budget of $2,800,000. eight hundred thousand dollars Greg, how much do you think it made at the box office? $45 million. All right, Kate, what do you think?
00:56:41
Speaker
Wait, what was the budget again? $2,800,000. but two million eight hundred thousand Okay. um I don't know. six Six million. It made 86,278,631. Greg gets the point.
00:56:59
Speaker
Yes. Kate, you got to believe in Mel Brooks more than that. I don't even know like what's a normal like ah amount for a movie to bring in. I'm like, I don't know a lot.
00:57:12
Speaker
Yeah. And also, i have I'm not even telling you the year, you know. Yeah. Like, theyre the numbers are just too big. They don't even mean anything to me. Well,
00:57:25
Speaker
I'm sorry this was the game I chose this week. Onward we pressed. Question number three. Scary movie. A year after disposing of the body of a man they accidentally killed, a group of dumb teenagers are stalked by a bumbling serial killer.
00:57:40
Speaker
A scary movie had a budget of $19 million. dollars Greg, how much do you think it took in? $145 million. Okay. ok Kate, what do you think? um I'm going to make this simple for Kate.
00:57:54
Speaker
I'm going to say higher or lower from Greg's guess. Oh, wow. Greg, you're the host. You've got the home field advantage. All right.
00:58:04
Speaker
this one higher or lower? Lower. Lower. okay Lower. I'm sorry, Greg gets the point. That made $278,019,771. There's a reason why they made so many of those.
00:58:23
Speaker
Now, speaking of Scary Movie 5, a couple begin to experience some unusual activity after bringing their lost niece and nephew home.
00:58:33
Speaker
With the help of a home surveillance camera, they learn they're being stalked by a nefarious demon. Now, Scary Movie 5 had a budget of $20 million. dollars
00:58:47
Speaker
$45 million. dollars All right, great. Kate, higher or lower? a Higher. Kate gets it this time. It's $78,378,744.
00:59:01
Speaker
I can't believe that was still making that much at that point. But still, that's like a quarter of what it was. That's true. Question number five.
00:59:12
Speaker
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Hmm. A group of scientists band together to save the world from mutated killer tomatoes. They a budget of $100,000. what do think?
00:59:25
Speaker
greg what do you think had a budget of ah wait a, wait, $100,000? $100,000? was thinking million. dollars No, so that, we're higher lower? I'm going to bit higher.
00:59:38
Speaker
okay kate higher lower um i'm going to say a little bit higher
00:59:47
Speaker
Sorry, that only made $567,000. They it made $38,000. they wish it made thirty Yeah, that was a cult film. Right against the point. Okay. I knew it was popular on some level. I assumed it was popular in the theater, not on tape. But here we are.
01:00:04
Speaker
Question number six. Vampires suck. In this spoof of vampire-themed movies... I had to write that down from IMDb. Vampire-themed movies.
01:00:17
Speaker
In this spoof of vampire-themed movies, ah teenager Becca finds herself torn between two boys. And she and her friends wrestle with endless dramas that crescendo at the prom.
01:00:30
Speaker
And I'm presuming that vampires are involved somewhere, too. It had a budget of $20 million. dollars Greg, what do you think? $52 million. fifty two million dollars Okay, okay, very interesting. Kate, what do you think? Higher or lower?
01:00:47
Speaker
Lower. Kate gets to the point. It made... No, wait, hang on. What did you say? 52, Greg? Yeah. I'm sorry, Greg gets the point.
01:00:58
Speaker
made $80,054,547,866. Wow. would have thought, huh? Yeah. find that five hundred and forty seven thousand eight hundred and sixty six wow oh would have thought yeah yeah to find that one I don't know. like scare If you like hero superhero movie or epic movie, it's from those guys.
01:01:18
Speaker
I didn't like epic movies. so I remember you and i when we lived together, we watched one of those movies together. that was the watch Halfway through, we decided to turn the sound off and it became 10 times funnier. Yeah, i remember that now. yeah I want to do that again sometime.
01:01:39
Speaker
Question number seven. Haunted honeymoon. Two radio voice announcers are getting married, but Larry has fits of fear and a shrink needs 36 hours to scare him to death and cure him during a family reunion at a scary family castle.
01:01:58
Speaker
There's of course the classic, uh, Gilderrander, Gene, uh, Wilder spacey. Gene Wilder. Yeah. Budget. $13 million. dollars
01:02:14
Speaker
This is tough. um Yeah. $32 million. Okay. ok Very interesting. Kate, what do you think? Okay. Higher.
01:02:28
Speaker
Ooh, Greg gets the point. This was a flop. It made $8,033,397. That's all right. Question number We're almost there. Yeah.
01:02:37
Speaker
Not appreciated in their own time. No. but almost there yeah not appreciated in their their own time But also, i think that was directed by Gene, and I don't think directing was a strength.
01:02:49
Speaker
Probably not. Check out our episode on ah The Woman in Red. Question number eight. Club Dread. Broken Lizards Club Dread.
01:03:01
Speaker
ah When a serial killer interrupts the fun at Coconut Pete's Coconut Beach Resort, it's up to the staff to stop the violence, or at least hide it.
01:03:14
Speaker
Club Dread had a budget of $8,600,000. $15,000,000. Okay. Kate, what do think? Lower. Wow. got
01:03:22
Speaker
it this time, Kate. You're correct. made $7,565,807. Did not turn a profit the box. All right. Question number
01:03:33
Speaker
you' correct it made seven million five hundred and sixty five thousand eight hundred and seven dollars did not turn a profit of the box
01:03:42
Speaker
right question number nine Last one.
01:03:48
Speaker
Dracula, Dead and Loving It. Ooh, saw this in the theater on my birthday. Wow. This is Mel Brooks' parody of the classic vampire story and its famous film adaptations. You all know the story.
01:04:03
Speaker
Dracula, Dead and Loving It had a budget of $30 million. dollars Greg, how much do you think it made at the box office? Roll back in your mind. I've made $27 million dollars and I got to say, watched it again recently and you don't really probably need to see it.
01:04:17
Speaker
Okay. Now I'm curious. Well, all right.
01:04:23
Speaker
Kate, what do you think? More or less than $27 million? dollars Um, I'm going to say more. Oh, Greg gets the point that made 10 million, 772,000. didn't think it did terribly well.
01:04:39
Speaker
It did not.

Highlighting Favorite Moments with 'Batty Awards'

01:04:41
Speaker
Yeah. Uh-oh, it's the Batty Awards.
01:04:51
Speaker
Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:05:03
Speaker
Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:05:08
Speaker
Congratulations to all the nominees!
01:05:16
Speaker
That's right. Congratulations to our nominees. We've made it to the Batty Awards. Greg, do you have a Batty Award? I do. ah So as it was already discussed, it was for the joke. Just a little more context about this. She wakes up and it's very much the Dorothy of Oz or Dorothy waking, coming back from Oz kind of a situation. And you were there, but you were this.
01:05:37
Speaker
And you were there, but you were this. And you were there, but you weren't my French teacher. And just there's something like the timing on him saying it in the way he kind of looks down with this like look on his face like, come on now.
01:05:49
Speaker
And he's just like, I will always be your French teacher. Like it was just it was the sort of joke that just made me go like like I just couldn't. It just got me by surprise.
01:06:00
Speaker
And it was right at the end when I was not expecting it. And there was a lot of jokes in this that I really enjoyed. They came out of nowhere, but this was the one I was just like, oh, I'm so happy that this happened in like the last few minutes of this film. It's really impressive to me when a comedy can still like surprise, make you laugh by the end of it still like it hasn't lost all of its tricks yet. And it was just perfect.
01:06:24
Speaker
Yeah, the timing of it was so fast. And the look on his face and just the sentiment. is that like i'll always be Yes, the beret. Yeah.
01:06:36
Speaker
And the fact that he was the shop teacher earlier. Yeah. So everything just, it was pitch perfect. How about you, Kate? Do you have a bad earworm? um My Batty Award is also something we already talked about, but the the body count that flashes up on screen and along with the other little bits of text that pop up and they always have the little like ping noise just to make sure that you don't miss it.
01:07:02
Speaker
that I love that. i I feel like more more movies should have the body count. I love it. Yeah. Really good title work in this movie.
01:07:13
Speaker
Yeah. Very pleasing to look at. My baddie ward is, like I mentioned earlier, going to the blank makes me hot running gag. I think possibly the best instance was back in the woodshop when the ROTC guy says, these horse heads make me hot.
01:07:33
Speaker
Yes, yes. To me, it's like an instant sign. you're like Maybe this isn't the right guy for you. ah But I think it really speaks to that teenage experience of being so horny that you'll say damn near anything, even if it doesn't make sense.
01:07:48
Speaker
So great little gag. Great little movie.

Kate's Poetry and Podcast Engagement

01:07:52
Speaker
Yeah. Thank you for picking such a fun one. I'm so glad you liked it. ah Do you have anything to plug? I know that you had like a little some poetry come out recently.
01:08:03
Speaker
I did. Yeah. I had three poems in a fly leaf magazine came out in August. Okay. Yeah. So nothing to do with slashers or bad movies, but, but Hey, it has to do with you.
01:08:20
Speaker
do you have anything else that you want to plug? Do you want people to find you online or you're good? Yeah. If you want to find me, I'm mostly on the, ah the blue sky um as the arc.
01:08:34
Speaker
ah that whatever whatever yes yeah thank you so much for joining us i'm so happy to be here i'm i and love bad movies so you know i love i love this podcast thank you thank you for saying so well listeners we hope that you'll join us for the rest spooky season
01:09:03
Speaker
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01:09:15
Speaker
and ah And we hope that you'll come back next week when we'll be talking about the last horror film with Daze Johnson. Spooky season continues.
01:09:26
Speaker
Yes. And ah Kate, are you going to listen to this show? oh absolutely. Absolutely. When you do, give us five stars.
01:09:38
Speaker
yeah well Do it. Will do. Give yourself five stars. You've earned it. And ah yeah, listeners, until next time, be good. Goodbye.
01:09:49
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Goodbye. Bye-bye. goodbye
01:10:37
Speaker
I can't stay for curiosity, but what would you like to lie with you?