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Episode 78: Evil Bong featuring Kennedy Cooper
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Finally, the leaves are changing color, Kennedy Cooper, host of the podcast The Most Important Election of Our Lives is here, and we’re getting the pumpkin spice lattes out for… Evil Bong(2006)? While it may sound like a horror film (and it is), this Charles Band directed effort is more of stoner comedy that’s a love letter the Full Moon universe that also has a bong puppet and Tommy Chong in it. Despite the fact that a good portion of the film takes place in the nightmarish strip club that Kennedy calls “bong world” the film feels much closer to hanging out with a group of friends rather than watching a movie. Evil Bong can unite us all, even you, all you need to do is tune in!
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Introduction and Hosts Overview
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That you would, that you could And you know that you should Yes, you know that you should
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. The only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much?
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We're your hosts. My name is Chris Anderson. With me as always, I have the Alistair to my Brett, Mr. Greg Bossy. Hello. How are you?
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I'm doing pretty good, Greg. How are you doing today? um ah Yeah, I'm awake. I'm listening to the rain and I'm here and I'm excited to talk about this picture. Yes, who wouldn't be?
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I'm especially excited because we have the Larnell to my Bachman. lovely what ever Hello.
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How are you doing, my dove? I am. i'm I'm hanging in there. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's what we like to hear here on your favorite bad movie podcast.
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And hey, we're all hanging in there because we have a very special guest.
Kennedy D Cooper Joins the Conversation
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You might know them as the host of ah the most important election of our lives, but I like to think of them as our own personal evil bong. It's Kennedy d Cooper. How are you, Kennedy?
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What's up? I am a sentient bong. Okay. lot of people on Blue Sky don't know this. You know, they just read my posts. They think that's a human writing that wrong.
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well You learn something new every day, listeners.
Summary and Personal Connection to 'Evil Bong'
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And if you don't know the plot of Evil Bong, you can learn that right now. Here's just a short summary to hold in your mind if you haven't seen Evil Bong.
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Alistair's new roommates smoke weed out of a sassy accursed bong. And now he's the only one can free their trapped souls from inside the possessed pipe.
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Yeah, that's precisely it. That was beautiful. Yeah. Well, thank you. Kennedy, when I asked you to come on the show, you had Evil Bong right at the front of mind.
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That's always a good sign for me. Tell me about your relationship with Evil Bong. Well, this was a tough choice for me. I like so many questionable bad movies or whatever, but I felt like I had to go with this one because too many of the quote-unquote bad movies that I like have some redeemable quality, and this one... Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. oh I have a special relationship to this movie, though. um The thing about Evil Bong is that I have a group of friends that I've known for a long time that ah were scattered at this point increasingly in different places. Mm-hmm.
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And, ah but a lot of us have been friends for some of us like 20 years or whatever. And so we get together on discord and do activities and stuff like that. before that Skype and other things.
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And so yeah ah watching movies has been like one of the ways that we've sometimes like held together a little bit. And we developed this tradition in particular of like watching a lot of movies around Halloween.
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Yeah, perfect time for it. Yeah, such just a great time for it. And ah we've developed a ah complex, sophisticated rating system for films. Probably one of the most sophisticated film rating systems ever devised.
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Includes like a racism, sexism, and ableism matrix, which I don't think ever been incorporated into film rating system before, as far as I know.
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No, I like is I'm imagining it to be truly three dimensional. I'm very excited yeah to locate how problematic a film is in space. yeah um We rate films on a complex variety of metrics and we have been for years and ah around the time of the COVID pandemic in particular, like this really san is like a tradition.
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and nice ah because we needed to cling to things during that time.
Cultural Impact of 'Evil Bong'
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And it was for sure. so ah this is a little long winded. Thank you for bearing with me, but Hey, hey no, I'm loving every minute.
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um It was during the the the original lockdown period ah that we watched Evil Bong for the first time.
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And ah Evil Bong, so we you know we've watched movies that are great, movies that are terrible, everything in between. Evil Bong stood out right away as something just sort of bizarre, almost singular and ah and And it took on this weird cultural quality with us. Again, ah maybe blame COVID.
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Yeah, we were all had a little cabin fever. Like the effects of long COVID, which I... Yeah. Like like possibly involved. i don't know.
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ah but The last thing that made an impression on you before your brain turned to soup. Or maybe it was the first thing that made an impression on me right after my brain turned to soup. I know.
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but Yeah. um ah it was It was just this movie that stood out as being so weird to us and having such peculiar qualities. And it even influenced the rating system that I've discussed. we One of the things that we ask in the ratings form is, is this film a bong world?
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Or does this one take place in Bong World? Because we noticed that Bong World seemed to have very special criteria that most horror movies don't match, but a select few do.
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And that that that became of interest to us. Interesting. No, I could say an infamable quality of Bong World that is shared across canon of films.
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I can see where you're getting at. So, yeah, it just became this like thing that and and and then it became this like initiatory thing where like, you know, I could see that doesn't grow that often, but it is surprising. It's like 65 people or something surprisingly large. Oh, wow. And it's because, you know, over the years, people bring in their, you know, close real life friends that they meet that they think are cool and things like or their partners or you know and so it's like And so periodically people get brought you know ushered in Somebody's been dating somebody for six months or whatever, and they feel like it's time or whatever.
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And it's like one of the things we'll often do is be like, okay, well, you have to watch some evil bongs. like It's like an initiation thing. Yeah. yeah You'll be missing out on the in-jokes if you don't watch evil bong. This is part of the lexicon.
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Well, but also it's like it's this combination – We it's like it's we treat it sort of like how some people have this like weird fixation on like films like Rocky Horror Picture Show and like reference them and recite them and things like that.
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Like it's sort of like part that and part like Rick Roll. like okay yeah like like getting someone to sit down and watch evil bong they're gonna go through phases where they question if they want to keep being friends with you yeah they're gonna go through phases where they question if they want to ever smoke weed again yeah they're going question deep things about themselves and and everything around them but while they watch that film.
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But usually they come out of it amused and changed for the better. but Nice. It's a bit like getting jumped into the gang though. There is a bit of an endurance test to see if you can hang. I feel.
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Yeah. Even though it is a slim, like 87 minutes, it feels longer yeah That's for sure. I had seen this one before, but I had just sort of watched it on a whim and not paid paid its due attention.
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I think this one. It's easy to space out on, but if you don't space out, I think you can find little joys in it. Greg, had you seen this one before?
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No, i like I only knew this movie because we had talked about it in a prior episode for some reason. I think maybe Charles Band was involved in Robot Jocks or something. ah And we mentioned Evil Bong. And I just remember thinking, like, that's an interesting title.
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I wonder what that's about. I mean, obviously I knew what it was about. yeah It is one of the great, it's up there with deathbed on the... Yeah. yeah yeah It's just like, that's about an evening long.
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Exactly. So, ah yeah, it was it's ah it's an interesting little picture. It's intuitive, that's for sure. Yes. Anna, had you seen this one before? Did you watch it when I watched it?
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watched it with you. but ah But also, I didn't remember, I remembered none of Yeah, I think it lost the fight to our phones. You know what I mean? It was just that kind of night. I mean, maybe, maybe lost lost the fight to something. There's lot going on in this world of arts.
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It's true. but But this time around, I think i genuinely enjoyed it. You said you had a good time. Yeah, no, I really liked it. Well, that's great. Seems like we're all on the same. We're all evil bong fans to some extent or another. So that's fantastic.
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I just want to say I just feel tickled to have pleased more people with this movie. You know, I can go back to the to the cult and say, you know, work, work successful.
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Yeah, you'll be spreading the good word for sure. but ah Do you guys want to hear the context research I found out about this bad boy? Sure. Yeah.
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I wish I had some context about the background of the
'Evil Bong' in Cultural Context
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film. Script director, actors on set. What was going on on screen?
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I want to hear some details. Gossip screen to all that shit. Canon matcher all the time.
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So Evil Bong came out on Halloween 2006. That's shame we didn't get this episode done. Yeah. yeah I wish we could have included this one in Spooky Season. It just missed the deadline.
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This is a post-Spooky Season epilogue. Bonus Spooky Season, everybody.
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Yes.
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But I think it important to note, 2006, before weed was legal anywhere in these United States. okay Oh, yeah thank you for looking that up. I meant to, but did not. Yeah. like Yeah.
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yeah yeah Yeah. That's definitely part of the quality of it, I think. I mean, and it's also part of the plot. ah But our director is Charles Band, and I found three taglines.
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Good. Tagline number one. A horror comedy that will leave you with the munchies. All right. yeah I mean, yeah. Yeah. i mean do Yeah. ah Number two, who's smoking who?
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That's better. That's interesting. There we go. yeah Yeah. It's, it's, um it's existential. and mean Yeah. Think about it. it And it really speaks to the themes of evil.
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Tagline number three. Dude, it's one scary trip. No. I like that one. I think it really suits the tone.
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I mean, it does suit the tone. Yes. think it just speaks to what you dislike about the movie. It might. It might. For me, it's two, then three, then definitely one is the bottom.
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Okay. Interesting. So we should keep going through the franchise. Okay. oh no No, you're saying taglines. taglines but Oh, taglines. Okay. no But actually, when you when you get through more of your context, stuffh I would like to talk a little bit about the franchise at some point because I have strong feelings about i I definitely have ah i have a couple of specific questions. I've got a great perfect segue to that. Don't you worry. I got an off-ramp.
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Charles Band grew up in the pictures. ah He was born December 27th, 1951, and his father, Albert Band, moved his family to Rome, where he worked in Italian movies, working in Italian genre films of the 50s and 60s.
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That's a good way to get a lot of experience. That makes a ton of sense, too. Yeah, you can see that aesthetic in here. You can see those bones. um His father got him all types of jobs in filmmaking when he was a young lad, working just in any department he could get him a job on.
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So Charles grew up working in film in every job he could find.
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Then in 1983, he founded Empire International Pictures. yeah EIP made a ton of movies listeners might have seen. They made Reanimator.
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They made Trancers. They made Troll. They made Ghoulies. They made Sorority Babes at the Slime Ball Bolorama. What?
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And they made Robot Jocks. Check out episode six, I think. Robot Jocks? It's a great episode. Now, ah Epic ran into financial trouble in the late 80s.
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Got a little overextended. Band wanted creative control without interference from the money men that he ran into troubles with with EIP. So he started up a new company, started Full Moon Productions in 1988, which seems late to me. I would imagine Full Moon was older.
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But I think i lump a lot of yeah e i pictures yeah EIP pictures into and full moon stuff. Yeah, honestly, same. Makes sense. So they produced and distributed dozens of classic direct to the VHS horror movies, including franchises like Puppet Master, Sub Species, Demonic Toys.
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They picked up the Trancers franchise. They did Ginger Dead Man and they did Evil Bong. And plus just tons of one shots of movies that mate you probably haven't heard of unless you're like a Full Moon fan.
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And some of which are the worst fucking things ever committed. Yeah, they were dirt cheap. Yeah. Like the worst movie I've ever seen in my life is Blood Meridian, which is a Charles Band full moon joint. Okay.
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That is not what I thought that was going to be at first. So offensive. So offensive to everything that is good taste. I don't doubt it.
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He doesn't seem like a guy that's afraid of pushing boundaries. Okay.
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But then on the other hand, the Puppet Master series is like weirdly woke. Yeah, it does have a lot of Nazi hunting in it. There's so much. got to give him that. it's just ah It's just an entire franchise about how Nazis got to get murked.
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Yeah. So you got to give Puppet Master the thumbs up on that front. Charles Band contains multitudes. Yeah. we yeah Yeah. And you could look at some of his more offensive work as being, you know, coming more from the John Waters school.
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You know, I think he's a conscious button pusher. You know what I mean? I obviously not as talented as John Waters. Yeah. you know i think Charles Bann's more of an unconscious button pusher, which is still fine sometimes. Yeah. yeah I mean, maybe maybe I'm being too generous.
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He wanted to be a Roger Corman type ah using his independent studio to launch the careers of the next generation of Hollywood greats by letting them hone their craft, making horror movies for necking teens only without the next generation of Hollywood greats part.
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Let's make a bunch of cheap horror movies. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So ah in 2006, Charles was talking to his sons, Harlan and Zolman.
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Wow. ah Yeah. As you do.
Creation and Financial Aspect of 'Evil Bong'
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. As you do. yeah As you enjoy talking to Harlan and Zolman, your sons. Yeah, of course. and And he was talking to them about ah stoner comedies and the possibility of doing some sort of stoner comedy.
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And ah Band came up with the title Evil Bong while they were just throwing around joke titles. And then he was like, wait a second. Evil Bong.
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It paints a picture. Yeah. And so he he developed to the rest of the movie from the title. And he said he drew some inspiration from the original Little Shop of Horrors.
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Makes sense. You see that. Yeah, you you sort of have this object that you're you're become infatuated with that ends up attacking you. And it's also a sassy black lady.
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And also, it all takes place in pretty much one location. Mm-hmm. Yep. Now, since he was also the producer, he gave himself the green light to make the movie. He says, you know what? This picture is approved. Me. And stamped it.
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He started principal photography just six weeks after coming up with the idea and principal photography only took one week. Banged it out. God damn. All of that truly makes sense. yes yeah I mean, it shows, but I mean, you gotta, you gotta to give them the salute. I couldn't shoot a movie in a week. God damn.
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No, that's how you make profit it on this little stuff. As much as we, it's easy to roast the quality of the movie in a lot of ways. The fact that it was shot in a week kind of impressive. No. Yeah. Yeah. yeah but There's a lot of craft in this film, oddly enough.
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Yeah, it's just honed into a very specific direction, I think. Yes.
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So the bong prop was made by Jeff Farley and was based on a vintage bong that band found at a Melrose head shop. Farley sculpted three different faces for it.
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ah Farley had worked previously on puppet master versus demonic toys in 2004. That's how they had worked together, but he was not a band regular. And I think this puppet was a little bit lackluster compared to a lot of band family puppets.
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Okay. That face was not very expressive. No. I think the payoff of the Bong transformation is kind of worth it, but the process to get there is a little underwhelming. That's kind of how I feel about it always.
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If they had at least just made the Bong's lips move when it talked, I think I would have been enough for them. Evil Bong 2 is a big upgrade on the puppetry.
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Okay. Nice. Okay. That's good to know. Interesting. Uh, now it's hard to find the exact numbers to grade evil bong success as a movie financially since it didn't get a theatrical release.
Exploring 'Evil Bong' Sequels
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ah And also i think because full moon is a privately owned company, they don't need to like report expenses or anything. So I don't know what its budget was, but I can tell you that evil bong appeared in at least 10 more movies to date.
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Good for you. bow Yeah. Hey, God bless. You got evil bong to King bong evil bong 3d, the wrath of bong ginger, dead man versus evil bong, evil bong, four 20 evil bong. High five evil bong, six, six, six evil bong, seven, seven, seven, the ginger weed man, chapter one, the ginger weed man, chapter two,
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ah Evil Bong 888, Infinity High, and Evil Bong-a-thon, which is a clip film combining all the other Evil Bong movies into a tight 88 minutes.
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Wow. Kennedy, you've got the most familiarity with this franchise. Give me your thoughts. I gotta know. Where should I continue to? Is there a point I should stop? There's definitely a point you have to stop. Okay.
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Okay. ah So here's the thing. The first evil bong movie is pretty funny. And ah in my own independent research, I discovered I believe it did make money. Like, that's why they kept making them. Like, I saw it must. have I saw like an old interview where he hinted that like he made like three times the money he spent on it or something, you know, um yeah which isn't like a ton, but is enough to justify keeping going.
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um Yeah. And it was like, i I know that from other things I've read, it was like a relative hit for Full Moon. Yeah. This is one of their bigger titles and it makes sense. It's a very marketable title. You know, you're trying to sell movies to a video store and they see Evil Bong on there. They're going to, yeah, I'm sure I can rent out Evil Bong five times and make my money back.
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Right. um so ah so they had a little ah like a minor hit on their hands so they decided to keep going Evil Bong 2 is pretty fun but they do up the racism so no that's lot it you've got to know that going into it because King Bong is also a black stereotype and it gets a little bit worse in some ways okay i'll give that one a thumbs down uh uh so i think you have to go into it knowing that like certain elements of it and there's also a really just unnecessary element of fat phobia in evil box there's some there's just some stuff that just felt like why is this
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Why is this being introduced into the movie? um A couple of bad calls for evil bong too, but, but it's ambitious and interesting and features a couple of the funniest scenes in the whole franchise.
00:24:36
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I don't want to spoil all of it, but I will just spoil this one as an enticement, which is that ah a human gets rolled up into a giant joint and Okay. Nice.
00:24:49
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Okay. I just think everyone needs to see that. um Absolutely. Evil Bong 3, it's clear that they didn't want to risk spending as much money as they did on Evil Bong 2, so it's a little less ambitious in some ways.
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But it's also really fun and is like the least if offensive Evil Bong actually by far. Even less than one. um Okay. Interesting. So like Evil Bong 3 has like this weird sci-fi thing going on.
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where like aliens abduct people and there's an alien bong it's awesome the alien bong is awesome okay okay alien bong sounds very good i'm liking the decisions they're making here um there's just a lot to enjoy about evil bong 3 it's super weird um and uh yeah um but then Then the franchise goes straight off a cliff.
00:25:49
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wow oh Evil Bong versus Ginger Dead Man is just barely watchable, but it is ah trash to an extreme degree. It is offensive on every level. You will be offended. Okay.
00:26:08
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ah but in every possible way watching evil bong versus ginger dead man and then past that okay so i didn't watch some of the like later newer like there's some of the the the way like the the ginger weed yeah Yeah. The two-parter. Like that stuff and some of the newer stuff. I didn't watch any of that at all.
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But like past that, the movies got so much more racist. It's actually a bad call you like crazy how racist like the fourth and fifth official installment installments are an official eventually just i just had to stop was like i can't keep watching this is like yeah watch it's like actually that's understandable unpalatable garbage okay maybe i'll see if i can work my way through bong-a-thon it did come out 2025 and is sub 90 minutes we are still on the hunt for best bad movie 2025 wait that came out this
00:27:11
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this year Yes. Wow. Yeah. so They're still going with evil bongs, but I do, I do actually heartily recommend if you enjoy the first one, if you don't enjoy the first one, obviously just fucking stop watching them.
00:27:27
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Like, yeah, absolutely. ah They're not going to get much better. That's for sure. It's always going to be evil. bong If you didn't enjoy the weed jokes, um,
00:27:39
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you're not going to, it doesn't have any other tricks in his back pocket. There's nothing new coming, right? yeah Yeah. But, but if you, if you enjoy the first one, I think two and three are really watchable.
00:27:52
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Okay. But I wouldn't go. I am curious about that alien bomb. Other horror comedies of 2006. You got scary movie for didn't see it.
00:28:05
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Sure. Sure. You got Slither. Okay. I remember that one coming out there. You got Poultry Geist from the house that Toxie built over at Troma.
00:28:20
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Okay. You got Behind the Mask, the slasher mockumentary. It's pretty good. Didn't know about that one. i i It's been an ages since I saw it. It's a solid B film. It's fun.
00:28:34
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Okay. You got my pick of the litter. The ah rear window with the Sasquatch, Abominable. Oh, I like that.
00:28:45
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I think I've seen that one. Yeah, that's pretty good. Abominable is pretty good. And also, you got snakes on a plane. You know, I've never seen that.
00:28:57
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I only saw half of it. I saw it in the theater and people were hissing at the screen. It was a fun enough time. because I saw it in the theater too, but the theater flooded.
00:29:09
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Oh, geez. We had to leave. And then I just never. and never could go back. I never went back. I don't know what's up with that, but.
00:29:20
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You got the idea. you know Well, you guys want to move on to the plot of evil bong? Sure. Yes. All right, let's keep it chugging.
Notable Scenes and Characters in 'Evil Bong'
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Plot bumper, listen to me. I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
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So we open on surprisingly long opening credits with kaleidoscopic weed imagery floating about. For a sub 90 minute movie, there is, i want to say at least three minutes of opening credits with no plot in it at all.
00:30:32
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bold move. By the way, I hope you like the opening song. You're going to hear it a lot. And it's also the theme song to evil bong too, because they did not. and i mean pretty yeah I was not into it. So there you go.
00:30:49
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It was not the best. It was not the best. We then see Alistair, a big nerd with a center part, but cut knocking on the front door to an apartment.
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He's looking for a place to live. The door is opened by a bathrobe wearing stoner named Larnell. He's stoner paranoid type.
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He introduces his two roommates while negotiating the rental agreement. His roommates are Bachman, the surfer stoner type, who smokes the most weed out of the three of them. And Brett, the jock stoner type.
00:31:29
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and rare but accurate archetype that does exist in the wild. He was a baseball jock that blew out his ACL. Uh, now Brett starts immediately busting on Alistair, reinforcing the ancient, you know, rivalry between jocks and nerds.
00:31:49
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But then he also starts giving him like manosphere style advice being like, you just got to start pumping iron, bro. You just got to eat a bunch of protein and chicks will love you. But Al needs a place to live.
00:32:03
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So he's in it for $40 a week rent. Which is a crazy price. But considering he's splitting a ah studio with three other guys and is sleeping on the floor.
00:32:15
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Yeah. It seems about right. He is literally in a flop house. Yeah. He's in one of those weed houses. Yeah.
00:32:25
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Now, all the bros start smoking weed, except for Alistair, who politely demurs. oh While they smoke, Larnell mentions that he saw an ad in High Times Magazine for a possessed bong, and he is buying it with Al's rent money.
00:32:42
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Very excited. Yep. I'm going be honest, if I saw an ad for a haunted bong, and it was $40, including shipping... Sounds great. Yeah.
00:32:55
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I'm going for it. I mean, $40 just for a bong is a pretty good price. Listen, I'm never, I'm never going to purchase anything that anyone claims to be haunted. I'm just going to say that right now. I'm not a superstitious man, but I still don't spit in the face of that. You know what I mean? It's like, that's haunted. Like then you can keep it.
00:33:11
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Frankly. I wouldn't buy most haunted objects, but I would buy a haunted bong specifically. Okay. All right. Yeah. I think I might make exception for the bone.
00:33:24
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So time passes. The boys are settling into a routine. Al studies while na Larnell plays Super Mario Brothers World with a wildly different soundtrack to it.
00:33:36
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It's great to see. I love it when that happens in a movie where it's just like, I know the visuals and those are not the sounds. Also, that's not really how you. play Well, he might have actually been playing this one. I think he was. Yeah. But yeah, that is always wild to be like, somebody doesn't play video games.
00:33:54
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Somebody thinks I will know this very common knowledge for people my age. um I didn't, I didn't know that. It's true. It's true.
00:34:06
Speaker
So then UPS guy shows up with the bong in a package. The UPS guy is very strange. Yeah. his name is Rabbit, and he's played by Sonny Carl Davis, and somehow Rabbit appears in every Evil Bong film. Am I understanding that correctly?
00:34:24
Speaker
You are understanding that correctly, yes. How does this character come back ten times? Do that he keep ordering things? Does he have a different job? um Does he move in with them?
00:34:37
Speaker
they They kind of like, ah they they track him down to like make him help with the increased evil bong problems and offer to pay him. Okay.
00:34:49
Speaker
The second one, they're like, they're like, listen, you seem to know more about evil bongs than we did. Okay. We'll pay you help us. It's like, as I recall how it goes in the second one.
00:35:03
Speaker
and then ok after that, he's just kind of like hanging out. Yeah. All right. And in fact... That I like. I like that he becomes part of the crew.
00:35:16
Speaker
He's just a fixture. He's almost like in a loose, very loose way. Almost becomes a little bit of like a Cenobite type figure where he starts to spend increasing amounts of time in Bong World.
00:35:31
Speaker
In some of the later... Okay. Like in so in one of the later films, it's implied that he's just living there all the time. Wow. He has just departed society.
00:35:43
Speaker
And he he understands the perils of Longworld well enough to navigate it and, like, survive within it long term.
00:35:54
Speaker
We love that kind of character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I think I need to watch evil bong-a-thon. Now I'm sold. Now that I know that that's it, that it has like a lure that it's not just new people meeting the bong every time. Now I'm interested.
00:36:08
Speaker
Oh, the lore is shockingly. That's something Charles band loves like puppet masters. Also like, that's true. Like puppet master. The craziest thing about puppet master to me, and this is part of why i love it is that puppet master has like the most involved, detailed, and shockingly relatively consistent, although of course there are times when it's not, lore of like pretty much any long-running horror franchise.
00:36:37
Speaker
Like, the lore of Puppet Master is dense and powerful. wild and they really that me just keep building on it they they never forget any of the crazy stuff they said before they're just like oh yeah you remember that wild shit from movie two we remember too buddy Nice.
00:37:00
Speaker
That's, that's gotta be one of the advantages of having a consistent authorial voice across the whole franchise, you know, to having it always be Charles band sort of baby the whole time is that he can gatekeep it as much as he wants, you know, and he's going to have a consistent artistic vision for it.
00:37:18
Speaker
So, okay. Okay. Lornell unpacks the bong while Brett explains to Al that Lornell came from money. Larnell compares the bongs hourglass shape to a woman, taking care to point out the tits and vag.
00:37:36
Speaker
Classic. Yeah, great. That's ah something you love to hear or someone say. and then everybody but Al hits the hookah hoses. It's sort of a combination bong and hookah. song It's a wild contraption.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it looks like it works. Yeah. ah everybody gets high as shit, but they've run out of weed. Isn't that always the way? Larnell is very disappointed as he appears to be falling in love with the bong in some sense.
00:38:07
Speaker
That night, the bong begins to glow and whisper to our boys. And then we get on the screen 24 hours later. Don't know why they did this. Only time they ever do anything like it.
00:38:18
Speaker
It's also a weird amount of time because it's like i woke up in the middle of the night and saw the bong glowing. And then 24 hours later, we were smoking out of It's like exactly at the same time you woke up the day before.
00:38:30
Speaker
Is it too interesting? or Yeah. I'm a little confused. Is this a joke? feels more like 18 hours later. Yeah, yeah. Is this joke? Is this mistake? Was this intentional? What's happening? It was fun.
00:38:42
Speaker
It was fun. ah So now they're restocked, and Bachman and Lornell are smoking out of the bong again. They're very excited. Bachman is knocked off his ass.
00:38:56
Speaker
Brett brings by two ladies, Luanne and Janet. Luanne is dressed as a cheerleader, but is not a cheerleader. She is just a freak. And Janet is her good girlfriend.
00:39:11
Speaker
Lauren L makes a move on Janet and it takes the rejection remarkably well. It's really nice. It is nice. It's really funny, too. I will say, though, that during that monologue, like, the lighting is really strange, and it's like there's, like, dark pools around his eyes, and I was just like, this is kind of weird lighting for what I think is a positive i think it's a positive speech, actually.
00:39:36
Speaker
Yeah. I think they cut down on a lot of lighting adjustments to keep that one-week shooting schedule. That make some sense. Yeah. So Al tries to make small talk with ah Janet until Brett points out that he has dishwashing soap bubbles all over his crotch and everyone laughs at him.
00:39:58
Speaker
so They invite the gals to try the bong, but they both think it's kind of cringe and decide to roll out. Bong calls Luanne a bitch, and everyone thinks Larnell said it.
00:40:10
Speaker
Larnell blames Bachman. Bachman's clearly passed out. Anyway, that night, the bong calls out to Bachman, who smokes and his soul gets sucked inside the bong.
Bong World and Moral Dilemmas
00:40:24
Speaker
Inside of the bong is a strip club.
00:40:29
Speaker
yeah Other patrons of the strip club include Ooga Booga from the movie doll graveyard and Dr. Ivan from the movie decadent evil.
00:40:40
Speaker
There's just, this movie crosses over with, I want to say at least seven other full moon movies. What's interesting is I could tell that there was significance to all of these characters, but I didn't know any of them.
00:40:55
Speaker
I thought that would be the case. Yeah, I was just, I was just, I was like, this person seems significant to a group of people that look very interesting and very like specific and are talking in an interesting way. I assume this is somebody, but I don't know who this is every time.
00:41:13
Speaker
Yeah. I only knew one. Yeah. Was it the trancers guy? yeah Yeah, the Tranchers guy. You have to give credit to Charles Band, though. Like, some of this is weirdly cinematic, and he did he did kind of a good job like, creating that multiverse feel.
00:41:33
Speaker
it with it It worked even even though I didn't know who they were. Like, I still, like, I caught the significance of the moment and was just like, this is probably really great for somebody who knows what this is.
00:41:45
Speaker
Right. And, like, in that way, I kind of enjoyed it, you know. Yeah, and I also was like, who are these people? But it did, it it felt cinematic still. Yeah. And I think that that sort of like seeing someone being played as famous, but they aren't famous, it adds to the sort of surreality of, yes I'm assuming this is what you were calling Bong World.
00:42:09
Speaker
i was calling it an interdimensional strip club. And it it does sort of remind me of the Black Lodge from Twin Peaks. That's an interesting correlation, but I like it.
00:42:19
Speaker
I wrote down at one point that you were going to run into Dale Cooper looking for the bathroom. It did feel like he could just pop up at any moment.
00:42:30
Speaker
ah Yeah, it is sort of weirdly Black Lodge-y or something. ah There's something compelling about the quality of Bong World. It is it is a special, unique environment.
00:42:43
Speaker
Bachman, he gets approached for a lap dance by a gal with skulls on her bra. ah He responds ah by saying the same thing i say every time I open up Blue Sky.
00:42:56
Speaker
Goth boobs, huh? That's cool. know and then ah then ah the lady drinks his blood. And he says, i love you. It's a wonderful little moment.
00:43:11
Speaker
the skulls on the boobs help drink the blood. I really think that needs to be understood. Yeah. it's It's interesting because they're like clearly like prop clothing, but it's also like they light up and make sounds. So it's like, so are they like, does she have like skull breasts or is she just wearing a skull bra? And I chose to not really interrogate that a lot.
00:43:34
Speaker
Yeah, no, no. It is whatever it needs to be in the Exactly. Exactly. So the next morning, Brett stumbles in, wrung out from a late night with Luann.
00:43:45
Speaker
He tells the boys to clean up because the gals are coming over tonight. Why anyone would ever want to come over to this absolute shithole? I have no idea. I wouldn't want to stay there. i assume they're doing it because they're trying to connect Janet with Alistair.
00:44:00
Speaker
Because I think they're both just like they're just like, she's attractive, but he's not going to find anybody, and she's into him, so let's get these two to together. Let's just do them both a favor, and we'll get them together, we'll fuck, and they'll they'll do whatever it is those two geeks are going to do together.
00:44:16
Speaker
Yeah, fair enough. um Exactly. thing Yeah, I mean, all these characters are implied to be in college. i partied in some pretty shitty apartments in college.
00:44:28
Speaker
That's true. That's true. They don't seem like that type, though. they are They're all very clean cut for being a bunch of like stoners. It's true. They all have grubby haircuts.
00:44:39
Speaker
Even Larnell is not grubby enough. Yeah. yeah like The grubby people are like clearly not grubby. They're just like shaggy. like None of these people have a stick and poke.
00:44:50
Speaker
No one has a side shave. Come on. No one has a weird rash. Yeah. yeah No one owns a pet rat.
00:45:05
Speaker
ah So while they're cleaning up, they find Bachman's body. ah Bachman is dead. It's terrible. Al wants to call the cops, but the bros just want to hide the body for the night.
00:45:17
Speaker
So they're debating that. And mid-debate, Larnell's Pop Pop shows up. strange he was probably gave my favorite performance in the movie no it's it's incredible it's incredible
00:45:35
Speaker
Uh, so, uh, Pap Pap is very mean wheelchair bound, incredibly foul mouth. Uh, he demeans everybody that he speaks to, and he calls his new wife hot. And then she comes in and she's incredibly old.
00:45:48
Speaker
And he keeps on saying that she needs to take a nap, which I thought was very funny. Yes. Uh, and then he goes and he takes a shit in their bathroom and then he leaves.
00:46:00
Speaker
Uh, they're all really glad that Pap Pap did not find Bachman's corpse. Who wouldn't? I mean, you'd be very happy to find out that no one discovered that corpse. Yes.
00:46:11
Speaker
That's specifically they're trying to avoid. So the boys knock back a couple of Coors. Even Al joins in in a beer. Even if he doesn't smoke weed, he'll still have a beer with the boys. They're beginning to bond.
00:46:23
Speaker
And Al agrees that they can the deal with the Bachman situation tomorrow so that he can try and fuck Janet tonight. So they hide Bachman's corpse in the basement under a pile of trash.
00:46:36
Speaker
I love this plan. Yeah. Flawless. but You got to focus on what's important. Exactly. I like that Alistair at least asks, like, what about the time of death? Yes.
00:46:50
Speaker
They're just like, shut up, nerd. Who cares? You can definitely convince the cops that he's not dead like two days ago.
00:47:00
Speaker
They say, oh, he passes out on this couch for days at a time anyway. We'll just say he was laying there for two days before we noticed. Yeah. oh Reasonable enough plan. ah So the babes come on over.
00:47:15
Speaker
Oh, no, hang on. I've skipped ahead. Before the babes come over, Larnell is alone with the bong. he's like, I shouldn't smoke from the bong. Or should I?
00:47:28
Speaker
Because the bong starts calling out to him, literally. The bong can talk. And it has more of a pronounced face now. Its face is beginning to become defined. And so he does smoke from the bong.
00:47:40
Speaker
And then he also gets sucked into bong world. There he meets Ginger Dead Man from the movie Ginger Dead Man. And Pap Pap is there too.
00:47:52
Speaker
And Pap Pap continues to be an asshole. But Evil Bong is also in Bong World and she has a giant bouncer. And the bouncer ejects Pap Pap.
00:48:05
Speaker
And then ah stripper says to ah to lanyard larnel it's a weird name it's hard to recall that name it doesn't i feel like anytime i think larnell like no larnell's not right lanyard was um lanyard gates yes yeah
00:48:31
Speaker
So yeah, Lauren L is, goes in to hang out with the stripper and the stripper says, Hey baby, I have a surprise for you, which to me normally indicates a different sort of sex scene is going to happen.
00:48:46
Speaker
But it turns out I was misreading the situation. It's actually that she has sharks for boobs and the sharks bite his hands off. yeah I just want to point out, and this is important, um this is this is a defining feature of Bong Worlds that is never violated in the series.
00:49:05
Speaker
ah She starts out with her breasts exposed, and then she goes, hey baby, I've got a surprise for you, puts on a bra. Okay, so in Bong World, you're safe if there are exposed titties somewhere around you.
00:49:24
Speaker
But if that stops being true, if you can't see a boob, you are in danger. Wow. Okay. And it's, it is one of the strangest, but completely infallible rules of these movies.
00:49:40
Speaker
Um, uh, and, and yeah, it's, home there's something so funny to me about the idea of like, she's like, Hey baby, I've got a surprise for you. And then puts a bra on that is like, the surprise is my new bra.
00:49:55
Speaker
I check out this
00:49:59
Speaker
I like
00:50:03
Speaker
i would certainly be surprised. I will admit it. I didn't expect that. So back in reality, the babes come over. ah Brett has helped AI, AI, Al clean up. Oh no. I know. You've made it, right?
00:50:22
Speaker
Yeah. Brad has helped Al clean up and they pair up with the gals. No one notices that Larnell is dead. He's sleeping or whatever. yeah they're yeah You know, there appear to be no bedrooms, so everybody just sleeps in the living room.
00:50:38
Speaker
oh So they play a little trivial pursuit before they decide to hit the ball. Once again, al demures. ah Brett soon passes out, but Luann gets horny as hell in the most intense and insane way.
00:50:53
Speaker
Weed really hits this gal different. This is a one of the strangest things I've ever seen on film. I didn't know what they wanted me to do with it.
00:51:05
Speaker
yeah Yeah, truly. What my reaction is supposed to be to what was happening on screen is genuinely a mystery. Yeah, like they they they like pan over to Alistair and he's just like got his jaw dropped and staring. And it's like, that's what I'm doing.
00:51:19
Speaker
i don't i think he's doing. what I think he doesn't know what to do either because I don't i don't know what I'm supposed to do. We were all Alistair. She's like trying to be sexy and having like a complete.
00:51:36
Speaker
life-ending manic breakdown at the same time. yeah She's like pounding with her fists on his lap and going, I'm horny, I'm horny, I'm horny, I'm horny. It's like, i I don't know what you're trying to achieve. There's some erotic pogo sticking.
00:51:53
Speaker
yeah I forgot about that part. She tries to make a balloon animal out of a condom. Yeah.
00:52:03
Speaker
It's a very strange scene. It's so hard to even explain. it felt like it felt like somebody who has never had sex before and is trying to... like ah somebody has told her that like, if she doesn't get this man to have an erection in the next 90 seconds, then she dies.
00:52:27
Speaker
Like, here are your props. She's just trying anything, just looking at any prop in the room. Like maybe this could be a sexual object.
00:52:38
Speaker
ah
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah. It, it was truly unique. A fantastic scene. Yes. Um,
00:52:50
Speaker
A baffling experience. um She soon collapses from exhaustion on top of Brett. Janet, meanwhile, wants to fuck Al, but he's all like math oh equation.
00:53:08
Speaker
ah But eventually they start making out. But then Al notices that Larnell is dead. And then they see the evil bong with a fully formed face and it talks to them and it taunts them and it sucks the souls out of Brett and Luann.
00:53:25
Speaker
done And they're now, yeah, who would have thought? Now it's gotten almost the whole gang. ah In the inner strip club, they run into one of the demonic toys before the bouncer kicks out Luann for hassling Brett.
00:53:40
Speaker
Who knows what happens to Luann's soul at this point? Just out there in limbo somewhere.
00:53:47
Speaker
Brett meets a stripper named Carla Brewster, who is mentioned earlier in the film for giving an especially toothy blowjob. She has a bra with mouths and she bites his dick off.
00:54:02
Speaker
Got him. Yeah. womp mom got him yeah oh i Back in the real world, oh the bong now has a fully formed face and Janet succumbs to the one bit of weed that she smoked and passes out.
00:54:20
Speaker
And then Tommy Chong shows up. Yeah. Yeah. He's Jimbo. Yes. He's the original owner of the bong. And he explains that the bong steals souls and Al wants to save Janet.
00:54:37
Speaker
So Jimbo gives Al some vitamins and then Al smokes some weed from the bong to follow her in.
Tommy Chong's Role and Climax
00:54:46
Speaker
I've got to say, ah he's his acting, I think, is the best of everybody. like it's It's really weird. As soon as he came out, I was just like, God damn, he's good. yeah Which I think is just in context.
00:54:57
Speaker
yeah But also, I think he is good. like he's a you know He's been in entertainment. He's been an entertainer for a long time. But you just see him, you're just like, fuck, that is a true professional. Yeah, just a charming and engaging performer.
00:55:08
Speaker
If anything, it speaks to the quality of his skills even more that yeah he sold a role like this. you know yeah You know, the script wasn't doing the heavy lifting for him. Oh, yeah. His his whole character is basically like, oh, my bitch ex-wife, except it's a bong.
00:55:28
Speaker
ah Like, like, pen yeah.
00:55:34
Speaker
So ah once Al is inside, Jimbo tries to smash EB with a hammer, and it's ineffective. Tries the same thing with a chainsaw. Ineffective.
00:55:46
Speaker
Inside Bong World, ah strippers come on to Al. ah He brushes them off. Then he runs into Jack Death from trancers before finding Janet getting grinded or perhaps ground on by a male stripper.
00:56:04
Speaker
So finally we get a male stripper up in the mix. Kudos. Back in reality, Jimbo threatens Evil Bong with a bomb. In response...
00:56:15
Speaker
Evil Bomb releases, Evil Bong releases a plume of smoke saying, you're mine, baby. Admit it. You're mine.
00:56:26
Speaker
Jimbo brags about his super tolerance that he has developed over a lifetime of smoking just a lot of weed, ah but it only does so much. Evil Bong is definitely bringing the good stuff.
00:56:37
Speaker
Very powerful. Yes. Got that.
00:56:43
Speaker
BC, but 47 BC, but yeah. Yeah. ah Back in the interdimensional strip club, Al and a visibly stoned Janet run into Bill Mosley playing some one from the full moon extended universe, but I could not identify who this was the one that stumped me.
00:57:05
Speaker
No idea. Yeah. No clue. No clue. He was also in the house of a thousand corpses. I know that. okay And he was in Texas chainsaw massacre too.
00:57:18
Speaker
Now he wanders off. Bill Mosley wanders off. And then the evil bong starts yelling at Al being like, I'm going to take over the world. I want to get the whole world stoned. Everybody's going to be stoned. It's going to be great.
00:57:31
Speaker
Now calls her a weed imperialist and say, it should be an individual's choice whether or not they get high.
00:57:39
Speaker
Back in the real world, Jimbo succumbs to the smoke. Back in bong world, Al gives Janet vitamins, takes one for himself to clear her head. It works like that.
00:57:51
Speaker
ah They run into Jimbo on their way out. Jimbo has brought his bomb with him. So Al and Janet escape while Jimbo blows up the otherworldly titty bar from within.
00:58:04
Speaker
Back in the real world, everyone wakes up. Everyone except for poor Jimbo, whose body is also presumably not there. He is just gone.
00:58:15
Speaker
Before kissing his gal, Alistair eulogizes Jimbo for his great sacrifice. Before we cut back to bong world, where now Jimbo is in charge and all the strippers are ah fantastic.
00:58:29
Speaker
They all love him and he wants them to play with his hot wheels. And then there's a cute scene of all of them playing with hot wheels. And it's a lovely little end to the movie. The end.
00:58:43
Speaker
Yeah. So. Evil bong. Evil Bong. Final thoughts, five-star ratings. Greg, where did you land on Evil Bong? So, ah this is not my type of movie, and I did have some trouble getting through it, but I will say...
00:59:00
Speaker
that it is very charming. And it still was a good time. ah Like it is in also like the fit that was Luann who throws the sexual frenzy.
00:59:18
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Just seeing that within context, I think makes this movie worth it, frankly. ah Like if you're curious at all, like that's genuine. It is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Like you're just watching this movie. you're like, wait a minute.
00:59:34
Speaker
Like I've never had a movie question. I've never had a movie make me question reality so much as that particular moment. I'm going to watchability is like a three though. Cause it's got some like downtime.
00:59:45
Speaker
think you were with the right group of people, Right time, you know, it's going to be good. And certainly, like, I'm not going to, like, watch it again on my own, but I could certainly easily be convinced to watch it again.
00:59:56
Speaker
It's certainly watchable and a good time. ah And as far as weirdness goes, I'm going to give it a four. It's pretty bizarre. i it's still like kind of classic stoner comedy kind of stuff. So it's not like too crazy, but like, just like the frenzy that she goes into all the strange cameos, the weird choices, like you said, with the, like they have their topless and then they put on a bra. There's just so many strange little moments like that, that are just like very bizarre.
01:00:31
Speaker
What about you? And what do you thinking? ah Final thoughts-wise, I don't know if I mentioned, i liked I liked Larnell's emotional, comparative emotional maturity as an ongoing bit.
01:00:47
Speaker
He was very good at drawing boundaries, and it made me laugh every time. Big, like Larnell. Watchability, I would say probably...
01:01:03
Speaker
You know, I'm going to say i'm going to say four. okay Because I was going to give it, like, lower than that because I was going to say, you know, your mileage may vary if you watch it sober, but I literally can't imagine watching this movie sober. So i'm notm not even going to think about that instance. I don't... Yeah. ah That's just a very different... um That'd be like doing a food review of uncooked pasta.
01:01:33
Speaker
Yeah, I think this movie is like The Ring in that if you aren't high, it will get you high. Yeah, yeah yeah it has it is insidious. It will just find yourself with a joint in your hand before the movie ends
01:01:53
Speaker
ends. And um as for weirdness, ah I would also give it ah for... um Okay. Because while it does, you know, very straightforwardly fulfill the premise, along the way, along the way, there's some, there's some, some weird stuff.
01:02:15
Speaker
um You know, the whole concept of Bong World, in fact, is yeah weird. You know, was, as part of my not remembering the movie, I'd completely forgotten about Bong World and I was very, very,
01:02:30
Speaker
impressed that this was a portal fantasy yeah fair ah i gave it a three and a half in terms of watchability. I don't think it's going to be everyone's cup of tea for sure.
01:02:44
Speaker
Uh, it is also relatively cheap looking. The acting isn't great. The jokes aren't great. Some of the jokes are a little problematic. I wouldn't say that it's particularly scary, ah but it is very fun. It does keep moving.
01:02:58
Speaker
It's kind of like eating a bunch of gas station snacks. You know what mean? i'm not going to say this is a good meal, but it's a good time. Yeah. Uh, For weirdness, I graded it lower than you guys. I gave it two.
01:03:12
Speaker
I thought there were lots of weird gags and full moon cameos that... all would be very weird to see out of context. But since I sort of was like, okay, oh, cool. A bunch of full moon guys, you know, that wasn't that strange for me.
01:03:27
Speaker
I do think that one, I I'm going to bump it up to two and a half because I do think that one moment with that gal was very strange. Very strange in that moment. I will grip. I'll give you that one. I'll bump it up.
01:03:41
Speaker
Kennedy in terms of watchability and weirdness out of five stars, where do you land with this one? Yeah, I mean, I think I'll be somewhat similar to a lot of what's been said. I really think I kind of want to split the difference somehow and say, like, if you're watching this movie alone, it's like three star watchability. And if you're watching it with like five of your friends passing the bong around, then it's a five star watchability. It is like, yeah you know, it is.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's only a movie that you can just crack jokes and smoke weed with your friends while watching and have a really exceptional time. so ah So I guess, you know, to split the difference, we'll say four out of five, right? but okay But with that kind of understanding that it really is that divide between like, are you alone or do you have buddies in a pizza, right? like yeah And for context, I was alone when I watched the movie. So I think that did color my experience of it.
01:04:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Like, it's still kind of fun alone, but it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah. You could tell. I was like, this is something I want to be watching with other people, realistically. Yeah. um As far as weirdness goes, I think I'd give it, like, a solid three out of five. Like, it's definitely a weird flick in a lot of ways, but it's not, like, super weird. And especially having the context of having seen later into the series, like, Evil Bong 3 is so much weirder.
01:05:07
Speaker
okay interesting that i have to kind of grade on a curve a little bit you know with the context of that um uh and just things like that in perspective and also i just watch so i'm i'm a huge cinema buff and i watch so much weird shit i'm not obviously y'all do too to a large extent but i'm just saying for me personally it yeah it kind of falls right in the middle of like it's definitely kind of weird it's not the weirdest thing you'll ever see but you will have moments where you go what
01:05:40
Speaker
yeah well with that let's head on to act three of the show let's talk a little bit about the score to oh yeah please
01:06:10
Speaker
Let's talk about the score, score, score. This movie's got a great score, score, score.
01:06:22
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Time to talk about the score, score, score. This movie's got a great score, score, score.
01:06:32
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Score, score, score.
01:06:38
Speaker
All right. There are 33 tracks on the Evil Bong soundtrack. A lot of them are Juggalo acts. That's right. Evil Bong is down with the clown. Wow. That might explain my reaction. That might explain my reaction to the soundtrack. yeah No disrespect to Juggalos.
01:06:59
Speaker
No, of course not. I have nothing but respect for their those people and their culture. I'm sorry that I cannot get into the music yeah or the fact that the vibes are off for me.
01:07:12
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But what I'm going to do, we're running long. I'm going to read through just the title and artist in groups of five, just to bang out these 33, because I just want to read these because they're fantastic.
01:07:24
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All right. So here we go. Shake Your Boon Key by Jail. Let's fuck by Cottonmouth Kings. Yeah. Fire by Potluck.
01:07:37
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Bong toke by Cottonmouth Kings. What you want to do by Sandog. Nice. Wow. I knew Cottonmouth Kings from somewhere. I don't know why, but i was like, oh, Cottonmouth Kings. Okay.
01:07:51
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I heard about, I used to love watching those ah gathering of the juggalos infomercials. Oh, I remember. that you. That heard them. I heard about them before somewhere else, I think, too. But yeah, that makes good sense.
01:08:05
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The first one of those was so good. We should show that in the Discord. All right. ah next Next group. Like It Like That by Insane Clown Posse.
01:08:17
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So High by Twisted. Voyeur by Stormdrain. Wow. Partay Harday by Van Stone.
01:08:29
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And We're Vanstone by Vanstone. Oh. ah I was really hoping that one wasn't going to be by Dan Stone. was hoping that was going to be twisted again. Yeah.
01:08:42
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That he would be classic twisted to steal their thunder like that. All right. I-E-I, spelled I space E-E-E space I, by Dennis Shin as Menace.
01:08:58
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So I guess probably just by Menace. Okay.
01:09:03
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Spring Break Girl by Karen Hayden featuring Dusty Rose. Disassemble You by My Good Eye. Fever by Nina.
01:09:16
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And Lala by 4Zone. Wow, that's a lot of nonsense. making shit up Keep going, I guess. so All right. Ribbons by Moss Bluff.
01:09:33
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Yellow Helicopter by Zia. Roll It Up by Mentone. Pass That by George Ward. There we go.
01:09:43
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Nice. so and Now we're nowre getting back idols that get back into the... yeah yeah Yeah, we're getting back into the weed block, especially... Here we go. We got Bong Rasta by Volume 10 and Turtle Man.
01:09:58
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That's Mrs. Green by District 78. Yeah.
01:10:10
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yeah Wicked Weed by 99 Cent Baby. And Hollow by Laser Mustache. Oh, wow. I like these bands quite a bit.
01:10:23
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We're not done yet. Oh, my damn by M2C featuring six hole. Okay. Strip it off by the booty boys.
01:10:35
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Nice. Spank me by the booty boys, which will be our closing song this week. Oh, good. Wherever you are by Atherton music. I'm just going to straight run to the end.
01:10:46
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Burned Out Slow by Static Disaster. Euphoria by Collide. Ooh la la by BK featuring Hilary Van Leer. And Point of View by Kurt Gellerstedt.
01:11:02
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Fantastic. Yeah. What story. really paints a picture. It does. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think the movie would be complete without all 33 of those songs. No, you need every one of them.
01:11:15
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I was shocked at how much the lyrics address the concept of smoking weed. Yeah.
01:11:24
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And even occasionally other parts of the plot. Sure. It's true. Yeah, occasionally. Are you guys ready to play a game? Yeah. yeah All right, we're going to play a little Two Out of Three Are Real.
01:11:40
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He's this guy, he's that guy But there ain't no way he ever played the third guy I know how you feel But two out of three are real I said I know how you feel
01:12:11
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Two out of three are real. Maybe we can talk all night.
01:12:20
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But now it's time for the segment.
01:12:30
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That's right. We're doing a little two out of three are real with films produced by Charles Band since the year 2000. Okay. Oh. and okay oh IMDB has him listed with 456 producing credits. This man is truly prolific.
01:12:46
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So what I'm going to do is I'm going read you three movie titles. Two them are real, but one of them is a Chris original. So I want you to spot the fake.
01:12:57
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You'll buzz in by saying your own name. If you get the answer wrong, your opponents will have the chance to steal. Is everybody ready? yeah All right. Hands on buzzers. Question number one.
01:13:10
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Which one of these is fake? The 12 Slays of Christmas, Spooky Shoes, or Doll Graveyard?
01:13:21
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Greg. Greg? Spooky Shoes.
01:13:27
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Wait. That was correct, Greg. Okay. Spooky Shoes is a Chris Original. she she sister Question number two.
01:13:40
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Sex school, lessons of lust. Wow. Sex school, dorms of desire. Okay. Or sex school, easy A. Hmm. Anna.
01:13:57
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Anna. Sex school, dorms of desire. I'm sorry. Sex school, dorms of desire real. real Greg or Kennedy, can you steal? Kennedy.
01:14:11
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Kennedy? I'm going to go with easy A. Correct. me There was not an installment of Sex School about how easy it is to do anal.
01:14:21
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Question number three.
01:14:25
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Bikini Planet, Erotic Quest, or TNA Time Travelers? Greg. Greg? TNA Time Travelers.
01:14:38
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Sorry, that one's real. And I have to track that one down. ah Kennedy. Kennedy? I'm going to do a Bikini Planet.
01:14:48
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You're locked in, Kennedy. really thought that one was real. like My first reaction was like, yeah, I've heard of Bikini Planet. but I'm telling you, Charles, get at me. I've got a million and one pitches for you. All of these movies you're making up will just be real movies. He makes like 700 movies a day.
01:15:06
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yeah Yeah, if he just listens to this episode, we'll see them all in the slot. Question number four. The Death Murders. Final stab. but Skullheads.
01:15:22
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Anna. Anna. The Death Murders? You're correct, my dove. You're on the board. That also means the Skullheads is one.
01:15:34
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I knew the skull. I just, the skull heads just sounded too believable. Yeah, that's fair. All right. Question number five, unlucky charms, Franken spy, or Kentucky fried zombies. What was the first one?
01:15:54
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Unlucky charms, Kennedy, Kennedy, unlucky charms,
01:16:02
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no i'm sorry unlucky charms is real and or greg can you steal what was the second one frankenspy what was the third one kentucky fried zombies greg greg frankenspy
01:16:21
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No, I'm sorry. Anna gets the point. The fake one was Kentucky Fried Zombies. I was sure that was real. Yeah. It sounded so real. Once again. Question number six.
01:16:34
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Barbie and Kendra storm Area 51. Okay. um Barbie and Kendra versus El Chapo. Or Barbie and Kendra save the Tiger King.
01:16:47
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Wow. Yeah. Topical. Very. Anna. Anna? Versus El Chapo?
01:16:56
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Correct. You've taken the lead, my heart.
01:17:01
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Question number seven. Plenty of game left to play.
01:17:05
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Attack of the 50-foot cam girl. Moon Maidens 2. Or Mars Needs Jell-O Wrestlers. Greg. Greg.
01:17:17
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They never made a sequel to Moon Maidens.
01:17:21
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They did make a sequel to Moon Manies. Kennedy. Kennedy? Attack of the 50-foot cam girl.
01:17:31
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That one's real. I've seen it. It's very bad. No, seen dead that Yeah, so it has to be the third one. Yeah. Anna gets the point.
01:17:41
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What was the third one? Mars needs jello wrestlers. yeah They do, though. They could use them. It's truth in advertising. Question number eight. Bikini Apocalypse, The Dead Want Women, or Sexual Hell?
01:17:58
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Greg. Greg. Hell.
01:18:04
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and went too far with Sexual Hell. I'm going to be perfectly honest. I just wanted to be able to say Sexual Hell once in my life.
01:18:15
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I mean, it sounds like a great movie, right? Welcome to Sexual Hell.
01:18:24
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It's like a knockoff Hellraiser. Exactly.
01:18:30
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All right. Last one.
01:18:33
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Death streamer. Baby oopsie four all grown up and or micro mini kids. Greg. Greg. Baby oopsie four all grown up.
01:18:47
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You've got it, Greg. You really stormed the gates. I just wanted to say it. I just wanted to say it. But Anna still wins with four points. Congratulations to Anna.
01:19:00
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Good work. Yeah. Guess what? It's the Batty Awards.
01:19:11
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Now you're messing with her. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:19:22
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Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:19:28
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Congratulations to all the nominees.
01:19:36
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That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. Congratulations to you, Lester. You've made it to the final segment of the show, the Batty Awards. The awards that we give out.
01:19:48
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Yes. Greg, do you have a Batty Award? I do have a Batty Award. So I'm going to give this Batty Award to ah something that Bachman did. I do want to take a moment to say that those three, like the main three roommates, well, they may not have been like the greatest actors. Their rapport together felt extremely natural.
01:20:11
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And I really liked watching them interact with each other. ah And Bachman was ah was a delight. I loved him saying, oh monkey a lot, which I was going to give ah the baddie award to. But then I remembered ah I had a real journey when this happened. At the end, he pops but when everybody comes back alive.
01:20:30
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He like pops through the door and is like, oh, yeah, Bachman. Great to see him again. But also, how are they going to handle this? Because they abandoned him in the trash. And then he goes, dude,
01:20:42
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I just woke up downstairs under a pile of trash. What happened last night, man? And I was like, touche. The bomb. Good work. Good work.
01:20:53
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Yeah. Good work. Yeah. They just put a lampshade on it. Yep. And I was just like, all right. I really liked how you handled that. was very nice. Yeah. Slam dunked it. Anna, do you have a Batty Award?
01:21:04
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I do. I'm going to give it to the most 2006 costume piece. o Janet's crocheted shrug.
01:21:17
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yeah Really took me back in in unfortunate ways. Terrible. Yeah, we don't need those anymore.
01:21:28
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I'm giving out my Batty Awards to three new members of our Two-Timers Club. Three people in this movie have been in movies we have covered before.
01:21:40
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Tim Thomerson, who played Jack Death Bong World, was also in Rhinestone. He was great in Rhinestone. Yeah. I was trying to remember, yeah. ah Phil Fondacaro, who played the Little Person Club patron, who was Ivan Burroughs from the movie Decadent Evil.
01:21:59
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He also played one of the dwarves in Phantasm too okay Oh! Hell yeah. So shout out to Phil Fondacaro. And also... Ginger Deadman in this movie was played by John Carl Buchler, who was the director of Ghoulies 3, Ghoulies Go to College, which I think is the movie that this has the most in common with. Kennedy, have you ever seen Ghoulies 3, Ghoulies Go to College? No.
01:22:24
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It's like the 90s version of Evil Bong. Okay. I strongly recommend it. I'm to to watch that. I think you will really dig it. Kennedy, do you have Batty Award?
01:22:35
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Yeah, so, you know, i want to give an award to most unexpected speech of the film, which is when Alistair gives the surprisingly cogent and coherent speech about weed usage and how you should not be judged for using weed or not using weed, which is a yeah surprisingly... A solid moral for this movie. Like a lot of stoner comedies either come out on the side of weed bad, stay away.
01:23:13
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Or like, like everyone should just be high all the time, man. Like, and it's like this movie actually took a sort of,
01:23:26
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Correct, moderate stance of, ah you know, if you want to smoke weed, that's fine and you should be allowed. And if you don't want to smoke weed, that's fine and you shouldn't be hassled about it. And that's.
01:23:41
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hmm. That was like, the first time I saw it in particular, I was like, wait, is this really happening? Like, yeah this is a surprisingly strong moral for this film.
01:23:54
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Yeah, that really stuck the landing, which is I think adds a lot to Evil Bong's charm. mean like That you're going to on like, okay, okay, we all had our fun goofing around, but at the end of the day, we all feel something fairly reasonable.
01:24:08
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And I think that was a great place for the movie to land. And I think especially for 2006, you know, why yeah if if somebody made that movie like in 2023 with that same moral, it wouldn't feel nearly as interesting for somebody to be saying that.
01:24:26
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But for a guy to stand up in 2006 and six say, it's your choice to smoke weed or not. Yeah. God bless. Yeah. Kudos to you, Charles band kudos to you, Kennedy for joining us this week. You've been a fantastic guest.
01:24:41
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What a fun movie. e Do you have anything that you want to plug? ah First off, shouts out to people who listen all the way to the end. You're the real ones. People who don't listen all the way. yeah You don't know what I'm saying, so it's fine.
Kennedy's Social Media and Podcast Promotions
01:24:55
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um but um Get out of here, fake friends. They're already gone. You can find me on blue sky at Kennedy T Cooper dot BSKY dot social. That's the main place that I'm posting, at least for now.
01:25:09
Speaker
um Yeah. We'll see if they can win some goodwill back. Yeah. i anyway I have a podcast called the most important election of our lives. I have some older podcasts. If you love the sound of my voice.
01:25:25
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ah But um the one that I'm doing right now is called the most important election of our lives. And it's a show where we vote every day. Vote every day. Vote for Superman.
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Vote for Batman. Vote for Green Goblin. well Green Goblin's got my vote. Yeah. I want to hear him out. Yeah. See if he can take care of this spider menace. Vote formon vote for a Pokemon.
01:25:52
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Vote for everything. But I appeared on a Worst Selection of Our Lives. i but That episode has probably come out by the time this episode has come out, but has not come out at the time of this recording. Yeah, be out around the same time that this comes, because we are also on a similarly long tailed recording schedule. Yes.
01:26:11
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I love having that buffer. It's my comfort blanket. For those of you in the podcasting, no, it really is the difference between like driving around in a Ford Rambler with the bumper falling off and being chauffeured in a Rolls Royce.
01:26:28
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Yeah, just a smoother ride.
01:26:33
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Kennedy, thank you again so much for joining us. Now, let me ask you, are you going to listen to this episode when it comes out? Me? Yes. um You know, i I really struggle with the sound of my own voice. so i have Oh, I understand.
01:26:48
Speaker
have listened to full episodes of this show, but i i being put on the spot, I'm a little uncertain if that that... I'll get all the way through.
01:26:58
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Now I'm sounding like a fucking hypocrite, Chris. Thanks a lot.
Engaging the Audience and Community Announcements
01:27:04
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01:27:55
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01:28:07
Speaker
And come back next week when we'll be joined by my former co-host of Uncle Monster's Spooky Time Fright Hour, Ethan Saretsky. And we're going to be talking about his favorite bad movie, My Father the Hero.
01:28:22
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wow Yeah. So you don't want to miss it. And until then, ah be good. Goodbye.
01:28:32
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and enjoy the booty boys. Goodbye. bye