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Demolition Man
6 Plays2 years ago
Be well, John Spartan! Info assimilated, now have a joy joy day.
This absolute smash action flick is one of our all-time favorites. Sylvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes, and in her first leading role: Sandra Bullock! Also Denis Leary and Nigel Hawthorne.
Listen to find out finally what the 3 seashells do...
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Transcript
Introduction and Theme
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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis.
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Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.
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Happy Halloween, dudes.
Teaser for 'Demolition Man'
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He's a cop from the 90s who just woke up in the 21st century.
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I've been leaving about killing you for 40 years.
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She's his new partner.
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What I wouldn't do for some action.
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With all the right moves.
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I'm impressed.
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And all the wrong phrases.
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You take this job, you can shovel it.
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Close enough.
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Sylvester Stallone.
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Wesley Snipes.
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Demolition Man.
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Rated R. Starts Friday October 8th.
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That's what he was
Nostalgic Halloween Memories
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going to say.
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That's what he was going to say.
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Yeah, that's what – Dude, was that a Janet Jackson song over that trailer?
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Is there one where they sampled the Bee Gees?
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I don't know what that was, honestly.
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It sounded like just – maybe it was just a generic Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis song.
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It definitely sounded like a song where somebody would be wearing really baggy pants, like doing The Running Man.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I like how it started off with –
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Happy Halloween, dudes.
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Yeah, that was the commercial that this TV spot was
Podcast Episode Details and Challenges
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read from.
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It had like the Elvira.
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I think it was like a Wendy's or like Burger King Elvira commercial.
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And I left it in there just because I knew you would enjoy it.
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Elvira.
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Good Lord.
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That's dusting off a classic.
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Movie Life Crisis Season 3, Episode 21, Demolition Man.
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Demolition Man.
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We're not far off the original release on this one.
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Recorded it 10 days after?
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Yeah, yeah.
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We're really close.
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We're a couple weeks behind.
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We hardly ever do that right.
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Well, yes, we attempt.
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I mean, technically this isn't right either, but, you know, it's close.
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We're in the ballpark.
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I like to be in the right part of the year because that's when all the 30th anniversary articles start coming out, and I can read there's an interview with the writer who came up with the three seashells thing.
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Yeah.
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And if we'd done this in March, that interview wouldn't have been out, and I wouldn't have seen it.
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Right.
Research Difficulties and Humor
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We're in the right spot.
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You would have to go deep dive.
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Yeah, I'd have to call him myself, which I don't want to do.
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Which you probably could have, though.
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I feel like I probably could have because the website I found the interview on was like – like the advertisements on the side of the website were like, you want to buy some shit from Hong Kong?
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I was like, OK.
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I don't think I'm in a good website here.
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I think I'm in the wrong neighborhood.
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My cell phone is not working.
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Hey, do you want to start your own GeoCities website?
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What the what?
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You want to invest in Steven Seagal's cryptocurrency?
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Oh, man.
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Never.
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Never am I doing that for that guy.
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Yeah, hard
Meet the Hosts: JT and Jeff
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pass.
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Movie Life Crisis.
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I'm JT.
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You're Jeff.
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We are almost done with 1993.
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We got like five left.
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This is, I think, the fifth to last movie, and it's one of my favorites.
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Yeah, it's fantastic.
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I can't believe we're already to episode 21.
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21.
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We're cooking.
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3, 2, 1.
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We're also in the time of the year.
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We're in the toddler cough in my mouth season, so I'm a little cold.
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I have a little cold, but that's just how it's going to go the last couple of months.
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My kid thinks they tell secrets into people's mouths.
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Daddy, I was... He goes out into the world and he's licking stuff and touching other kids in the face and he comes home and coughs in my mouth while he tells me about it and I get sick.
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It's whatever.
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It's
Personal Anecdotes and Relatable Stories
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fine.
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That's what the next couple of years are going to go like.
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And this is how we all got COVID.
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That's right.
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Somebody off a boat in Formosa forgot to wipe themselves, and that's how we all got to glue.
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How you doing?
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How you doing?
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How you doing?
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If I hadn't been sick, I really want to.
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Roger, a real-life friend and also a Patreon supporter, assures me that I can run a 100-meter dash in under 20 seconds, and I really wanted to try and do it, like go to a football field and try and do it, but I came down with the whatever this is that I got, so I have not.
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Yeah.
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But I'll go back to that.
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Once I feel healthy, I'll do like two hours of stretching and then I'll do 100 meter sprint.
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See if I come in under 20 seconds.
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I can.
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Yeah, I'm going to go.
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I can go out to the track out at school, have somebody film it, see if we can actually do it.
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Yeah, that's good.
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Yeah, I can.
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I got to wait till it gets a little colder.
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I can't run in the 70s.
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I'm not built for that.
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I think you're going to need also your whole planning period is not going to be enough time for you to stretch.
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I don't know.
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I got, I got block scheduling now.
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I think I could fit it in.
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Yeah.
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It's, I knew you should tell, you should let your classes make wagers on how fast you'll run it in.
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I think also I can have some of the track kids run with me so we can see how actual slow it is on video.
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That sounds great, man.
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I think that's a fantastic idea and a fitting tribute to cool runnings.
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What's those, what are those sports bras that like tell you how fast you're going and stuff like that?
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You know what I'm talking about?
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I don't know.
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I haven't, I didn't, the sports bra with a speedometer.
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I didn't know that was a thing.
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Yeah.
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Like a lot of the athletes wear them up under their shirts.
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Some of them don't wear it.
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Who's that quarterback who looks like an Ewok?
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What's his name?
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I don't know.
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Dude, I haven't watched football in like 10 years.
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I don't know.
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You're talking about like the heart rate trackers and stuff?
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Yeah, but it does all kinds of stuff.
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It keeps track of like your, like, I don't know, speed and everything, I think.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Roger will know that.
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He runs all the time.
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Send me a sports bra and I'll run in that.
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Yeah.
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News, we're a little bit behind on Patreon.
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Major League is going to come out next week.
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It's supposed to come out this past week.
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Blame Jeff.
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Yeah, it's on me.
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I watched the wrong movie.
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I was completely ready for Demolition Man last week.
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That happens.
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We're in a good groove, though.
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We're going to keep cranking out Patreon movies every other week, barring any other scheduling snafus.
Why 'Demolition Man'?
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But I think we're in good shape.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Let's talk about why this movie was chosen.
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Give me your insight on that.
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Spoiler, because it's freaking awesome.
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Well, yeah, because we both really, really like it.
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And also it's really close to the anniversary, so that's why we picked that now, I think.
Plot and Cultural Impact
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That's why we put it in there at this point.
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Because the only other thing that I see is Columbus Day, and that's not really a reason to watch Demolition Man.
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Unless you're considering Columbus the Demolition Man.
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Stallone, he's Italian.
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He probably celebrates.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's how that works.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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Dude, I don't know.
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Because we like this movie.
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Yeah.
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Because we've always liked this movie.
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Even if we were doing 10 movies for the year, this would have been one of the 10.
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That's how much I like.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So this was a no-brainer.
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After watching it again, I realized why we picked it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Give us a synopsis.
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A police officer has brought out a suspended animation in prison to pursue an old ultraviolet nemesis.
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Nemesis?
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Nemesis.
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Who is loose in a nonviolent future society.
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Yeah.
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This is, dude, the tendrils from this movie that are still around now that people still talk about, like the restaurant wars, the Taco Bell, the three seashells.
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Yeah.
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There's so much.
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I don't know how many people are even aware that that came from Demolition Man.
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The three seashells, I can't imagine anybody not knowing where they came from, but maybe, I guess if they're young.
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Well, but even stuff like the Taco Bell redesign, the color scheme, like the Taco Bell purple stuff, that all was designed for this movie.
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Right.
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And that's actually how they Taco Bell, when they build them now, that's what the sign looks like.
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The version I had that I borrowed from the internet and watched on Plex, I think it was the international version because mine didn't have – Pizza Hut.
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Yeah, mine didn't
Box Office and Sequel Discussion
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have Taco Bell.
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I had Pizza Hut.
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Yeah, if you had Pizza Hut, you had the international version.
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Mine had Taco Bell because I paid for it on Google, $3.99. $3.99.
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I watched it on Tubi, though.
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Tubi?
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Is that what it's called?
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Yeah.
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And that was the international version also, because I watched it again.
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I let it run today.
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Yeah, the international version, they spliced in Pizza Hut for Taco Bell, both audio and video, because apparently in the 90s, Taco Bell was not really well known in Europe, and Pizza Hut was owned by the same company.
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They negotiated product placement, and so they were like, yeah, just make it Pizza Hut for Europe.
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It'll be fine.
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It was weird, though, when I first watched it, because his mouth still says Taco Bell, but the voice says...
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Yeah, well, Stallone's not going in there to dub that.
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They're just going to like, I'll be in my trailer.
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You guys figure that out.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it sounded like him.
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It's like when they make the dirty words disappear on TBS.
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This movie, $59 million budget, $159 million gross.
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It's only number 18 on the year, but that's the calendar year and it released in October.
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So the total earnings would actually put it probably in the top five or six over like a 12-month period.
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But because it only had three months to earn in 1993, it actually just barely finished in the top 20.
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Yeah.
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Did you notice that the box office section of IMDb has it incorrect?
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No, I don't go to IMDb, so I did not see that.
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Oh, I pulled it up on IMDb and I was like, oh, snap.
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57 was the budget and it says 58 was the gross worldwide.
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Yeah, I use usually Box Office Mojo or the numbers to look up the box office stuff.
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But I always go to worldwide gross for the year.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it is $159.1 or something.
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But the box office on IMDb Pro says it only made a million dollars.
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So that's not right.
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Well, they did say that the marketing budget for this, like the filming budget, the production budget, and the marketing budget brought it to about $100 million all in.
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So...
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They only made $60 million,
Cultural Influence and First Impressions
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but any, any endeavor I'm involved in that only makes $60 million.
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I still feel pretty good about.
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Yeah.
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I feel like if you make any extra money, it's worth it.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I mean, if it's yes, because the people who are paying to make movies want to see a return on their investment.
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But honestly, if you're, if I'm seeing movies, I don't care if they make money.
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It just, are they fun?
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Are they good?
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Like that's the important.
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Still cost me eight bucks or whatever.
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Yeah.
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It still costs me eight bucks.
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No, no.
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It costs me 18 and that's if I don't get snacks, but it's whatever.
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You're not going to get snacks?
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No, I'm going to get snacks.
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It's only go like twice a year.
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So I'm definitely going to blow it out.
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I'm going to be making it rain hundreds up in there.
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You're going to have to.
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Yes.
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Awards, funny awards.
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Sandra Bullock was nominated for a Golden Raspberry for the worst supporting actress in that category.
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That's BS.
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She was awesome.
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Agreed.
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MTV Movie Awards, Wesley Snipes was in the Best Villain category nominated.
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It didn't win any awards.
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It had Best Special Effects and Best Costumes and stuff like that in the Saturn Awards, but didn't win any.
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Just nominated.
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Nice sequels and spinoffs.
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They talked about Demolition 2, Demolition Man 2 for a long time in the 90s.
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Stallone kind of said, like, I don't think it's going to happen.
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But then he said in 2020 that it actually is in pre-production with Warner Brothers and he does expect it to happen.
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So that's just a couple of years ago.
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So we'll see.
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Yeah.
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Well, two things.
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One, they said it's going to actually be a sequel.
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So it's going to take place after this.
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Yeah.
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In the late 90s, early 2000s, they talked about making a prequel.
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where it was like early on Stallone just finding Simon.
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Oh, becoming the demolition man and like initially encountering Simon Phoenix.
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That would have been awesome.
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Right, right.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Either one of those would have been good.
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My whole thing is, is how do you do that now that Stallone's a thousand years old?
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The prequel will do it just like the Star Wars movie where they do like CGI or like the Indiana
Favorite Scenes and Societal Portrayal
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Jones.
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You saw the Dial of Destiny where they made Indiana Jones.
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Yeah.
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They look pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I think that technology is going to keep improving where like they can use the actual actor with actual motion capture.
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And it's not like we don't have a ton of footage of what Stallone looked like in the 90s that we can't just map onto that face.
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God, that's where we live in the future.
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Yeah, we really do.
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I need to get that technology from when I'm walking around so that I don't have to go to the gym.
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Just make it look like Stallone with my head.
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I think you just want a t-shirt that has abs painted on it.
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I think that would work.
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Yeah.
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I see people in those and I get fooled all the time.
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Like that guy.
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Oh, nevermind.
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It's a t-shirt.
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Yeah.
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Dude, not only do they have a movie, they had a novelization of it.
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They made some comic books.
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Dude, they had some video games and pinball games and stuff like that.
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The movie was actually out there.
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I mean, I know that's part of the marketing stuff, but still, there's a lot of stuff.
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Well, they also did the, like the, the title Demolition Man came from us, the sting song, Demolition Man.
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And then they've used the movie title Demolition Man and stuff like a Grand Theft Auto has had a mission called Demolition Man.
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Right.
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Three seashells have been, have it appeared in like a bunch of like science fiction stuff.
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Yeah.
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What about Dennis Rodman doing his hair blonde?
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Cause he liked the way Wesley Snipes looked.
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I know.
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I love that.
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And now Jeremy Sohan for the Spurs dyes his hair blonde.
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He probably has no idea
In-depth Analysis of 'Demolition Man'
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what Demolition Man is, but he's just doing it because Rodman did it.
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He did it because Rodman's doing it.
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It turns out Wesley Snipes didn't even like the hairdo.
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No, and Wesley hated it.
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Shaved his head right after that.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, I mean, whatever.
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But I'm here to tell him, not that he cares or whatever, hear it.
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It looks freaking awesome.
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I totally understand why Rodman was like, this is badass.
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I like how it came to a point.
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Yeah, it came to a sharp point.
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That was badass.
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Ice cold.
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Also, there's a lot of people that say like the development of the erotic games on the Oculus Rift is from the virtual sex scene in this movie.
00:12:51
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Yeah, I don't think anyone was ever going to develop virtual reality and not have that idea, but sure, why not?
00:12:56
Speaker
Do you remember when and where you first saw this movie?
00:12:59
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Dude, I don't... All right, so a few things.
00:13:02
Speaker
I don't remember the exact first time.
00:13:04
Speaker
I remember watching this a lot on DVD, and I wasn't into action movies and fighting movies as much as you and Joe were.
00:13:11
Speaker
So I don't think I saw this in the theater.
00:13:13
Speaker
I'm 99% sure I didn't.
00:13:15
Speaker
I don't even know if we recorded this, but this is one of those movies that ended up being kind of good.
00:13:20
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Once I saw it once, I was like, God, you come to it late, and you're like, oh, I should have seen this.
00:13:25
Speaker
This is awesome.
00:13:26
Speaker
Or like Fifth Element.
00:13:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:13:29
Speaker
Like I love Fifth Element now.
00:13:30
Speaker
I didn't see it in the theater and I wish I would have because it's good.
00:13:34
Speaker
But I didn't know that then.
00:13:35
Speaker
So I came to it like this is one of those movies.
00:13:38
Speaker
I loved action movies in this era.
00:13:40
Speaker
And I feel like I tried to get my dad to take me to see a bunch of them in theaters.
00:13:44
Speaker
But I don't remember seeing this one in theaters.
00:13:45
Speaker
So I don't know if that means I was unsuccessful in convincing him.
00:13:49
Speaker
But he also liked action movies.
00:13:51
Speaker
So I'd be like, hey, Stallone's got this one.
00:13:52
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He's going to fight some people.
00:13:53
Speaker
And he's like, all right, we'll go to that.
00:13:54
Speaker
But I don't remember this one, so I think we probably rented it like blockbusters, new releases, 45 days later or whatever the rule was.
00:14:02
Speaker
Yeah, way longer than 45.
00:14:03
Speaker
Yeah, well, but remember you could rent it before you could purchase it.
00:14:08
Speaker
Right, right.
00:14:09
Speaker
But it was still like five months instead of six.
00:14:11
Speaker
I thought it was like 90 days.
00:14:13
Speaker
And then you could, it was like six months before you could buy it, but like 90 days before you could rent it.
00:14:16
Speaker
There was a, there was a VHS exclusive rental window where you go rent the movie.
00:14:20
Speaker
It wasn't in theaters, but you could not own it.
00:14:22
Speaker
I don't remember the exact dates, but I think we probably did that.
00:14:25
Speaker
Like, let's see, like right the moment you could 74 to 76 days.
00:14:31
Speaker
Cause this is 90 days before the release of physical home video.
00:14:35
Speaker
They have 90 days to be in the theater.
00:14:37
Speaker
And then 74 to 76 days before they sold it.
00:14:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:43
Speaker
Well, we'll get back to you on that.
00:14:44
Speaker
But there was a window, and I'm pretty sure we just rented it.
00:14:47
Speaker
But I was on this early because this is exactly my type of stuff.
00:14:50
Speaker
I loved Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal and Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee and any other movie where people were fighting other people.
00:14:58
Speaker
I was all about that.
00:15:00
Speaker
Oh shit.
00:15:00
Speaker
I found it.
00:15:01
Speaker
Six months, early nineties, six months when it was VHS, eighties and nineties, uh, which was cut to 90 days because DVDs were easier to produce.
00:15:10
Speaker
Nice.
00:15:10
Speaker
So they could do 90 days.
00:15:11
Speaker
So you're right.
00:15:12
Speaker
Late, late nineties was 90 days.
00:15:15
Speaker
Sweet.
00:15:15
Speaker
That's the, uh, that's a pretty tight window.
00:15:19
Speaker
I mean, it's closer now, isn't it?
00:15:21
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:15:21
Speaker
Now it's way less.
00:15:22
Speaker
And now it's streaming.
00:15:23
Speaker
So you don't have to go to a blockbuster to get it.
00:15:24
Speaker
You just turn on your TV and click on one of the many apps you pay for.
00:15:28
Speaker
Boy, do you.
00:15:29
Speaker
Pay for it, pay for it.
00:15:30
Speaker
All right, so what'd you give this one?
00:15:32
Speaker
No sevens.
00:15:33
Speaker
No sevens.
00:15:34
Speaker
One to ten chimmy dogs, no sevens.
00:15:37
Speaker
I gave it a nine out of ten.
00:15:38
Speaker
Nine.
00:15:39
Speaker
That's a good, dude.
00:15:40
Speaker
Yeah, I just, like, I was hooked, man, from the moment, from the thing, when this thing started.
00:15:45
Speaker
This is one of the best action movies of my life.
00:15:48
Speaker
I think this is, the first 11 minutes of this movie is like,
00:15:52
Speaker
It's just an absolute masterclass in action and exposition and hooking an audience.
00:15:56
Speaker
It starts in the 90s.
00:15:58
Speaker
The freaking Hollywood sign is on fire, and then Sylvester Stallone jumps out of a helicopter yelling, FedEx!
00:16:05
Speaker
Lands on a rooftop and starts shooting people and punching people, and then...
00:16:09
Speaker
Wesley Snipes blows up the building and then they both get arrested and they both go into the cryo prison.
00:16:13
Speaker
And then it says like, wham, demolition man.
00:16:15
Speaker
I was like, oh shit, it just started.
00:16:17
Speaker
Like just so good.
00:16:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:18
Speaker
I like when they give you, when they hook you before the thing.
00:16:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:21
Speaker
The cold open.
00:16:22
Speaker
It's like a long intro.
00:16:23
Speaker
Dude, that was absolutely like some stuff.
00:16:25
Speaker
It's like, that was good, but I don't know.
00:16:27
Speaker
Like I'm like, they should absolutely teach this in classes about how to make awesome action movies.
00:16:31
Speaker
Like that's how you open an action movie.
00:16:33
Speaker
That shit was amazing.
00:16:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:35
Speaker
And that first, like, and throughout the movie, like a lot of times when we watch the movies, like something happens and I open up my notes app on my phone, I type a thing in there and like 60 seconds of screen time passes while I'm typing that thing in and I just get back into the movie.
00:16:47
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But this, every time I look down to type something and I have to pause and rewind because I was, I kept missing stuff that I liked.
00:16:52
Speaker
So I was like, I just can't, I had to watch it one time through without taking any notes and then go back a second time and then take notes.
00:16:57
Speaker
Cause I, every time I went to type something, I was like, Oh wait, someone said something that I liked.
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:03
Speaker
I like how in the beginning, too, the...
00:17:06
Speaker
By the way, I gave it an 8.5.
00:17:08
Speaker
I'm totally with you on that.
00:17:10
Speaker
Nice.
00:17:11
Speaker
I think if you go into it knowing that the action is going to be like tongue-in-cheek kind of action and the lines are going to be ridiculous like all the other action movies, you're going to love it.
00:17:22
Speaker
And that intro that you were just talking about, there was like six, I think, lines I counted of the most ridiculous lines to say before you pull a trigger.
00:17:34
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:17:35
Speaker
Like...
00:17:35
Speaker
please tell your acquaintance and like go after somebody.
00:17:39
Speaker
I had a bunch of quotes that I loved.
00:17:40
Speaker
I could easily have made a bunch of quotes that I hated because there was a million quips in this movie, but I just go, I mean, like we talked about the quips.
00:17:47
Speaker
I just go like, it's the nineties.
00:17:49
Speaker
Like that's just going to happen.
00:17:50
Speaker
I know that's super corny now, but like, I just, that's what it is.
00:17:54
Speaker
Look at the, look at the, uh, indispensables.
00:17:57
Speaker
No, what the hell's the name of it?
00:17:59
Speaker
Um, no, the new Stallone movies.
00:18:01
Speaker
He just made the fourth one.
00:18:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:03
Speaker
Undesirables.
00:18:04
Speaker
That's not right.
00:18:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:05
Speaker
God bless.
00:18:07
Speaker
I can't think of the name of it.
00:18:08
Speaker
It's the, uh, anyway, the, the new one with all the action guys, I don't really, um, I, I like, they're all still like that.
00:18:16
Speaker
They all still, they all still do that.
00:18:19
Speaker
Expend, expendables, expendables, the expend for bulls, expend for bulls.
00:18:25
Speaker
That's the new one.
00:18:26
Speaker
Too, too fast, too furious.
00:18:28
Speaker
Dude, I like those quips and they're all in those movies.
00:18:31
Speaker
That's like a Stallone thing.
00:18:33
Speaker
I freaking really like it.
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:35
Speaker
And I like that the whole idea of the movie, the cautionary tale of don't let people that are opportunistic type leaders can take advantage if there's a huge tragedy like the earthquake, the big one in 2010 or whatever date they said.
00:18:52
Speaker
And they try to maintain power by changing stuff.
00:18:55
Speaker
Well, that's the thing, man.
00:18:57
Speaker
On top of being a fantastic action movie, I think this movie is really prophetic, kind of similar to how Idiocracy is, where I think about it all the time, where somebody else, like some news comes out and I'm like, God, like Demolition Man, talk to us about this.
00:19:11
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Yeah, they tried to warn us.
00:19:12
Speaker
Freaking Dennis Leary.
00:19:14
Speaker
Yeah, Dennis, not as much as The Simpsons or Idiocracy, but still, a couple times a year, I'm like, ah, just like in Demolition Man.
00:19:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:23
Speaker
Dude, there's somebody I follow on Twitter that every time they pass some law and it feels like it's going to take away some of their freedoms, they say like, I just want the freedom to eat a cheeseburger and run naked through the street if I feel like it.
00:19:35
Speaker
And they say that every time and post a picture of frigging Dennis Leary having one of his rants.
00:19:41
Speaker
So like, dude, all of that together, all the action you're talking about, all of the...
00:19:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:48
Speaker
Social commentary.
00:19:49
Speaker
Dude, I liked it.
00:19:50
Speaker
Eight out of five, man.
00:19:51
Speaker
I had a freaking blast.
00:19:53
Speaker
I never watch them twice.
00:19:55
Speaker
And I watched it at the house and took notes and did my thing, you know, two weeks ago when I wasn't supposed to.
00:20:00
Speaker
And then I put it on Tubi today during my off hour while I'm grading papers.
00:20:04
Speaker
It was just playing in the background.
00:20:07
Speaker
Dude, it's still good.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker
This thing moves, man.
00:20:09
Speaker
It was kind of nonstop for me.
00:20:11
Speaker
I'm not going to lie.
00:20:12
Speaker
Maybe the last third starts to like drag a little bit, but the first two thirds is absolutely – like every two minutes something awesome is happening.
00:20:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:20:23
Speaker
And the last third, but they finish it off with that finale, that last fight.
00:20:28
Speaker
That was a good fight for an action movie in the 90s.
00:20:31
Speaker
Well, sweet, dude.
00:20:31
Speaker
Let's talk about best scenes, best three scenes.
00:20:34
Speaker
My first one is the 187 Murder, Death, Kill.
00:20:37
Speaker
Murder, Death, Kill.
00:20:39
Speaker
Murder, death, kill.
00:20:41
Speaker
They defrost Simon Phoenix, Wesley Snipes in the cryo prison.
00:20:45
Speaker
And then he's got his parole hearing and he somehow knows the password for the cuffs.
00:20:51
Speaker
And so he gets out of them and he just starts killing people.
00:20:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:55
Speaker
And in 2032, no one ever – there's no violence.
00:20:58
Speaker
It's like a – Nobody ever touches each other.
00:21:00
Speaker
Yeah, it's like a utopian society.
00:21:02
Speaker
Really, it's kind of horrifying, but it's shown as a utopia.
00:21:05
Speaker
And so the cops get these like 187 cryo prison.
00:21:08
Speaker
Everyone's like, all the cops are like, 187?
00:21:10
Speaker
What is that?
00:21:11
Speaker
They have to look it up.
00:21:12
Speaker
It's like, oh, it's a murder-death kill.
00:21:13
Speaker
We haven't had one of those in 19 years.
00:21:15
Speaker
Nobody listens to Snoop Dogg anymore, man.
00:21:20
Speaker
Snoop is not healthy and thus illegal in 2032, according to the Cocteau plan.
00:21:26
Speaker
You know they can't listen to Snoop Dogg in that future.
00:21:29
Speaker
That's so sad.
00:21:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:32
Speaker
I couldn't even imagine not having suggestive songs.
00:21:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:37
Speaker
Wait, sorry.
00:21:38
Speaker
Are you saying that Hot Dogs, Arm or Hot Dogs is not a suggestive song?
00:21:43
Speaker
I don't think so.
00:21:44
Speaker
I don't think so either.
00:21:45
Speaker
Now that you say that, though, it might be kind of dirty.
00:21:49
Speaker
These are mini songs.
00:21:50
Speaker
You called them commercials.
00:21:51
Speaker
That's the most popular oldie station.
00:21:53
Speaker
Dude, that, I think about that all the time.
00:21:55
Speaker
Cause like literally you can go on YouTube and find YouTube videos of old commercials and watch the old commercials just for the commercial sake.
00:22:02
Speaker
And sometimes I'll do that.
00:22:03
Speaker
I'll go like, oh man, I want to go see the little Penny commercials with, uh, with Penny Hardaway and Chris Rock.
00:22:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:09
Speaker
Tyra, you left your toothbrush at my house.
00:22:13
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:22:15
Speaker
And every time I do, I'm like, Drake and Demolition Man talked about this.
00:22:17
Speaker
We're literally seeking out the commercials for the nostalgia.
00:22:20
Speaker
We're doing the stuff that... And dude, like the kids that I teach, none of them have like the premium version of anything.
00:22:30
Speaker
So they're constantly listening to ads.
00:22:34
Speaker
And the amount of kids that I watch like sitting back at my desk and they're just staring at the ad waiting for it to be over.
00:22:39
Speaker
I'm like, God, they got them hooked, man.
00:22:41
Speaker
They can't even like...
00:22:43
Speaker
I'll go look up the NBA, uh, NBA lockout ads from like the late nineties, 98 or 99.
00:22:49
Speaker
Regina Miller, you stink.
00:22:51
Speaker
Regina Miller, you stink.
00:22:52
Speaker
Two white guys playing horse.
00:22:53
Speaker
It's fantastic.
00:22:57
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, no, the one eight seven murder death kill.
00:23:00
Speaker
I was thinking about it as it was happening because he, they show, uh, Wesley Snipes break out of the cryo prison.
00:23:05
Speaker
He kills the guards.
00:23:05
Speaker
He kills Warden Smithers, Smithers, Smithers, take us down.
00:23:09
Speaker
Sir, you're flying the plane.
00:23:10
Speaker
Excellent.
00:23:11
Speaker
Um,
00:23:13
Speaker
But then the whole rest of that sequence you get from the point of view of the police station.
00:23:17
Speaker
I was thinking, man, it's actually so brilliant to show the initial impact of Simon Phoenix on 2032 through the police station because the cops are just going –
00:23:27
Speaker
There was another 187.
00:23:27
Speaker
And then he stole a car and they're going, what's happening?
00:23:31
Speaker
Right.
00:23:31
Speaker
You got to see all of the future cops going like they didn't, they had no idea how to react.
00:23:35
Speaker
Like it would have been cool to see him just like kicking ass, but it was actually really smart to just show the cops reacting to it from the police station.
00:23:41
Speaker
Exactly.
00:23:42
Speaker
You didn't, you didn't even actually see him doing all of the ass kicking that he was going to end up doing.
00:23:48
Speaker
Plus I like how the only person that actually knew who he was or what was going on is a Dell Paxton from a
00:24:00
Speaker
And he was like, oh yeah, Simon Phoenix.
00:24:02
Speaker
I remember him.
00:24:03
Speaker
I was like, golly, that's, he's awesome.
00:24:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:07
Speaker
Dude, my first best scene picks up right after that.
00:24:10
Speaker
The cops are trying to take him down and he's got like, he's like typing stuff and a cop car pulls up and the squad leader doesn't know what to do.
00:24:19
Speaker
He's got his little handheld thing that like tells him how to handle it.
00:24:22
Speaker
That's what, that's one of my quotes.
00:24:24
Speaker
It's a little Palm Pilot.
00:24:25
Speaker
And he's like, maniac is imminent.
00:24:26
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Request advice.
00:24:28
Speaker
And it was like, with a firm tone of voice, demand the maniac lie down with hands behind the back.
00:24:33
Speaker
And he says it.
00:24:34
Speaker
And then he turns around.
00:24:35
Speaker
He does this little quip.
00:24:36
Speaker
He's like, oh, such nice and tidy uniforms.
00:24:38
Speaker
Oh, I'm scared.
00:24:39
Speaker
Stuff like that.
00:24:40
Speaker
And he's like, Maniac has responded with a scoreful remark.
00:24:44
Speaker
And it's like, approach and repeat the ultimatum with a firmer tone and add the words or else.
00:24:49
Speaker
I was like, oh my God.
00:24:50
Speaker
This is like what new teachers say when kids are fighting.
00:24:55
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They just don't know what to do.
00:24:57
Speaker
That one's so good.
00:24:58
Speaker
As soon as I saw it, I totally remembered it.
00:25:00
Speaker
Me too.
00:25:00
Speaker
I also have in one of my three quotes, maniac responded with a scornful remark.
00:25:04
Speaker
Is that shit?
00:25:06
Speaker
Frickin made me laugh out loud.
00:25:08
Speaker
Oh man.
00:25:08
Speaker
And add the words or else.
00:25:12
Speaker
Oh man.
00:25:12
Speaker
Who, who thinks of this stuff?
00:25:14
Speaker
It's great.
00:25:15
Speaker
I like it.
00:25:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:16
Speaker
What's, what's your second one?
00:25:17
Speaker
My second one is all the way – like probably halfway through or more through the movie when they go – when the cops go down into the underbelly where Dennis Leary does his dumb Dennis Leary speech.
00:25:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:28
Speaker
I hated Dennis Leary's speech because it was very obvious that they just said Dennis Leary, do like 20 seconds of your stand-up right here on film.
00:25:34
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:35
Speaker
Yeah, they wanted him to rant.
00:25:37
Speaker
That's why they did that.
00:25:38
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:38
Speaker
And he wrote it himself and it was very apparent that he wrote it himself.
00:25:41
Speaker
And now 30 years later, I'm like, God, why didn't they just write something for him?
00:25:43
Speaker
So I didn't know that was Dennis Leary doing a rant in this movie.
00:25:46
Speaker
Right, right, right.
00:25:47
Speaker
He's really good in this part other than that one scene, that one speech.
00:25:51
Speaker
But like the whole – Let me tell you though – Oh, go ahead.
00:25:54
Speaker
No, I was going to say, let me tell you, I was like, as soon as I saw him, I was like, oh, crap.
00:25:59
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I forgot Dennis Miller was in here.
00:26:01
Speaker
And then I realized like halfway through me writing Dennis Miller a bunch going, wait, no, that's not Dennis Miller.
00:26:07
Speaker
Imagine if he would have wrote his rant.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:09
Speaker
Imagine if him writing a rant, we would have had to look up a thousand freaking references before we could have even talked about it.
00:26:17
Speaker
You probably would have got a lot of the rest, for instance, and I'd been like, it's like, what?
00:26:20
Speaker
When Hannibal stormed the Alps?
00:26:21
Speaker
What the hell does that mean?
00:26:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:23
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't know.
00:26:24
Speaker
So I didn't like the Dennis Leary, doing Dennis Leary speech.
00:26:27
Speaker
But when the Oldsmobile 442, the Rat Burger, all that stuff down there was awesome.
00:26:32
Speaker
Like, I love that.
00:26:33
Speaker
Yeah, that's cool.
00:26:34
Speaker
That's cool.
00:26:34
Speaker
And Jack Black.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, Jack Black making an appearance.
00:26:38
Speaker
Didn't even say anything, did he?
00:26:40
Speaker
No, I don't think he had a line.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, I recognized him as soon as I seen him, though.
00:26:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:44
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I like that part.
00:26:45
Speaker
I like that part.
00:26:46
Speaker
And the fact that you show like the disparity of how dirty and gross it is to the clay.
00:26:51
Speaker
That's why like showing the building blowing up in Kentucky or wherever it was in the very beginning.
00:26:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:58
Speaker
It was in California, but like actually filming Kentucky showing the, what the nineties look like compared to how clean it is in the 2032 year.
00:27:09
Speaker
You got to see the bad so you can understand how clean it is before.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:12
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Well, one of the, there were a bunch of writers on this script so much so that there even was like lawsuits about who got the writing credits.
00:27:19
Speaker
And one of the writers added that you got to start this.
00:27:22
Speaker
You have to start the movie in 1996, Los Angeles.
00:27:25
Speaker
And he said, if you don't see Kansas, it's hard to appreciate Oz.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:30
Speaker
Oh, that's a good way to say that.
00:27:32
Speaker
Show like the Hollywood sign on fire, shit blowing up, and then go to like Utopia where now all restaurants are Taco Bell.
00:27:38
Speaker
But and I like that.
00:27:40
Speaker
I mean, this is just a smart movie, man.
00:27:42
Speaker
Anytime there's some Utopia where everyone's happy, but also you can't use salt and you can't swear.
00:27:46
Speaker
Like there's definitely going to be an underbelly where people are actually poor and dirty, but having a lot more fun.
00:27:51
Speaker
Yeah, way more fun.
00:27:53
Speaker
It's the tale as old as time.
00:27:55
Speaker
It's like the fifth level of the Titanic, where the people are just down there poor having fun.
00:28:01
Speaker
Yeah, just loading the coal into the engines.
00:28:03
Speaker
And I like that stolen, because it's always like it's the same thing, right?
00:28:05
Speaker
They thaw the guy out from the future, and like, how awesome is this?
00:28:09
Speaker
And he goes, this place is a fascist hellhole.
00:28:10
Speaker
Put me back in the freezer.
00:28:11
Speaker
I'm like, good for you, buddy.
00:28:13
Speaker
I don't want this.
00:28:13
Speaker
Right.
00:28:14
Speaker
Yeah, speaking of that, my next scene is the virtual sex scene.
00:28:18
Speaker
Not...
00:28:20
Speaker
Not for the virtual sex, but – and not because I used to try to – because it's just flashes of pictures on the screen, and I tried to pause it to see if it was Sandra Bullock's real boobs.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's not.
00:28:32
Speaker
It's not.
00:28:32
Speaker
No, we know it's not.
00:28:34
Speaker
But, dude, the whole thing where she's like –
00:28:38
Speaker
Everybody's so like upfront with their feelings and out in the open.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:43
Speaker
She's like, John Spartan, there is of course a well-known and documented connection between sex and violence.
00:28:48
Speaker
Not so much casual effect, but the state of general neurological arousal.
00:28:52
Speaker
And after observing your behavior and my resulting condition, I was wondering if you'd like to have sex.
00:28:58
Speaker
And he's like, whoa.
00:28:59
Speaker
with you?
00:29:00
Speaker
He's like shocked.
00:29:01
Speaker
He's like now.
00:29:03
Speaker
And she's like, he's like, all right.
00:29:05
Speaker
And then like, they sit down and she brings out a towel for him, which I thought was great.
00:29:10
Speaker
And the little head gear thing that he puts on his head.
00:29:14
Speaker
Uh, and they virtually connect, uh, neurologically.
00:29:17
Speaker
Uh, and then he's like, he can't take it anymore.
00:29:20
Speaker
And he's like, what the hell is this?
00:29:21
Speaker
Takes, takes it off.
00:29:23
Speaker
Uh, she's like, what's wrong?
00:29:24
Speaker
You broke contact.
00:29:24
Speaker
He's a contact.
00:29:25
Speaker
I haven't even touched you yet.
00:29:26
Speaker
He's like, it's like bone and Mrs. Pac-Man.
00:29:30
Speaker
It's like, what do you say we do it the old fashioned way?
00:29:31
Speaker
And she's like, ew, fluid transfer.
00:29:34
Speaker
And the part that I like the best is when she starts to like, like really start to question like how gross he is.
00:29:40
Speaker
He's like, yeah, boning, doing the wild mambo, the hunk of chonka.
00:29:43
Speaker
And he's like freaking dry humping in the air.
00:29:47
Speaker
And she's like, exchange of body fluids.
00:29:48
Speaker
You know what that leads to?
00:29:49
Speaker
He's like, yeah, kids smoking, the desire to raid the fridge.
00:29:52
Speaker
And then she breaks it down.
00:29:53
Speaker
She's like, after AIDS, there was NRS.
00:29:55
Speaker
After NRS was UBT.
00:29:57
Speaker
The first thing he did was outlaw all fluid transfer.
00:30:01
Speaker
And he was like, so there's no kissing?
00:30:04
Speaker
He's like, what about kids?
00:30:04
Speaker
And she's like, oh, you have to go to a lab.
00:30:07
Speaker
And that's how procreation happens.
00:30:10
Speaker
That whole idea, like I would have never thought to put that in a utopian way.
00:30:16
Speaker
But then after seeing the guy whose idea it was, you could see like why he did that.
00:30:21
Speaker
He's, he's kind of like that.
00:30:23
Speaker
And it's one of the, it's one of the really memorable scenes from this movie and no one fights anyone else.
00:30:27
Speaker
And you don't actually see Sandra Bullock's boobs.
00:30:29
Speaker
It's just because like, this is the society they created.
00:30:31
Speaker
No fluid transfer.
00:30:32
Speaker
One of the first things that Dr. Cocteau outlawed.
00:30:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:35
Speaker
And now if you want to have a baby, you have to go get a license and then it comes from a lab and you never actually touch each other.
00:30:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:41
Speaker
Well, that, I don't think that's worth it.
00:30:43
Speaker
That's definitely not worth it.
00:30:45
Speaker
The best part about the kids that I have was making them.
00:30:51
Speaker
Yeah, I like that.
00:30:53
Speaker
I like that whole speech.
00:30:54
Speaker
It's like, let's have some sex.
00:30:56
Speaker
Let me get your headset and a towel and we'll sit across from your sunken living room.
00:31:00
Speaker
You're wearing like a freaking kimono with shiny dress shoes.
00:31:05
Speaker
No sleeves.
00:31:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:07
Speaker
And he looks at himself in the mirror and he's like, happy Halloween.
00:31:11
Speaker
And he's like checking his breath and stuff.
00:31:13
Speaker
That's ridiculous.
00:31:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:15
Speaker
Yeah, because he didn't know.
00:31:16
Speaker
That's great.
00:31:17
Speaker
I like that.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah, that was a good one.
00:31:20
Speaker
My last one is the final scene in the cryo prison, the final like boss fight between him and one of these guys.
00:31:26
Speaker
Just good, man.
00:31:27
Speaker
I love that the 90s, the 80s and the 90s, you had to have like the ultimate – because it wasn't – there was no CGI, so you couldn't like –
00:31:33
Speaker
You can have robots throw in cars at each other, like in the Matrix movies or in Transformers.
00:31:37
Speaker
You could physically just punch each other.
00:31:38
Speaker
Just two jacked dudes punching each other until one of them fell over.
00:31:42
Speaker
Let me ask you this, though.
00:31:43
Speaker
Wait, wait, real fast.
00:31:44
Speaker
So you know how – I mean I'm sure I've noticed it before, but I never thought about it until I was watching this one.
00:31:50
Speaker
Stallone will like punch Wesley Snipes in the gut, and he'll just kind of like sit there and wait for the next punch.
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:58
Speaker
Is that because he's stunned or is that just because it's in the script?
00:32:01
Speaker
Like, I've never been punched.
00:32:02
Speaker
I've never been in a fight.
00:32:03
Speaker
So like, if somebody punches me, I feel like I'm just going to fall down on the ground and start crying.
00:32:08
Speaker
I think it's just the fight choreography in the 90s is probably a lot more like kind of basic.
00:32:13
Speaker
Because I think it's one of the things that Jackie Chan kind of got famous for is he brought the Hong Kong fight choreography to the United States.
00:32:19
Speaker
And it's like he's fighting 50 people all at one time.
00:32:21
Speaker
They're all kicking each other in the face.
00:32:22
Speaker
And it's like it's really like and it's like Jackie Chan and Jet Li.
00:32:26
Speaker
And then it's like so I think the fight choreography is still coming along.
00:32:31
Speaker
If you watch some freaking silent vaudeville movies like the fight scenes, like someone punches someone else and that person falls over and the fight's over.
00:32:37
Speaker
Right.
00:32:38
Speaker
So I think we're still seeing the evolution of fight choreography.
00:32:40
Speaker
But yeah, I don't think that's what real fight.
00:32:42
Speaker
Dude, real fights is like if you look them up on the internet, it's like one person punches the other person and the other person falls down dead sometimes.
00:32:48
Speaker
You can't just punch people with your fists for like five minutes.
00:32:53
Speaker
That shit, that's not how that works.
00:32:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:55
Speaker
But I mean, if you're Stallone, maybe you can take a punch.
00:32:58
Speaker
I don't know.
00:32:59
Speaker
I guess so.
00:32:59
Speaker
Well, dude, Stallone got hospitalized in Rocky III because he asked Dolph Lundgren to really punch him.
00:33:04
Speaker
So kind of, I guess.
00:33:06
Speaker
That sounds horrible.
00:33:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:33:08
Speaker
That's what you get.
00:33:09
Speaker
You should have thought that through.
00:33:11
Speaker
Dolph Lundgren's 6'5".
00:33:11
Speaker
That's what you get.
00:33:12
Speaker
What about the very last thing?
00:33:14
Speaker
And he's like, is it gold in here or is it just me?
00:33:18
Speaker
Like, you're like this kind of quips?
00:33:20
Speaker
No, man.
00:33:21
Speaker
I hate the quips.
00:33:21
Speaker
I have it from the scene.
00:33:22
Speaker
Like, dude, I hate the quips.
00:33:23
Speaker
There's so many of them.
00:33:24
Speaker
And I think they were doing like- That's what I liked about it, I think.
00:33:27
Speaker
They're doing like old style one-liner comedians were doing where it's like, if I just throw a million of them out, maybe a couple of them hit.
00:33:33
Speaker
One of them will make it funny.
00:33:34
Speaker
It's like, and I just don't like that style of comedy where it's like, I'm just going to keep saying quips until you like one of them.
00:33:39
Speaker
I don't like that.
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:41
Speaker
But I also just go like, eh, it's 93, whatever.
00:33:43
Speaker
I don't, that's just part of it.
00:33:44
Speaker
I don't care.
00:33:45
Speaker
Yeah, but then they went to kick an ass after that and use an awesome weapon.
00:33:48
Speaker
So that was – like they still got the point across that it was awesome.
00:33:52
Speaker
Well, they're doing it all throughout the fight.
00:33:54
Speaker
It's just that's part of the fight.
00:33:55
Speaker
But I liked how there's like the 80s and 90s arms race for action sequences where it's just two guys punching each other because that can only go so many ways.
00:34:03
Speaker
In this one, it's like, oh, the freaking claw game hook that picks up the ice cubes picks up Sylvester Stallone and he's stuck in it for a while.
00:34:09
Speaker
And then he freezes Wesley Snipes and he kicks his head off.
00:34:12
Speaker
Like he talked about early in the movie.
00:34:14
Speaker
Dude, that was awesome, by the way.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah, totally.
00:34:17
Speaker
Or it's like a diehard.
00:34:18
Speaker
He hangs the guy on the meat hook.
00:34:19
Speaker
Like there's always like, we got to do something new.
00:34:21
Speaker
They're going to fight, but we have to do something no one's ever seen before.
00:34:23
Speaker
Yeah, something different.
00:34:25
Speaker
What about him jumping through the frozen bars as he's jumping out?
00:34:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker
Like the jail bars that were like...
00:34:30
Speaker
up that got frozen by the thing and he like just jumped through him yeah dude it was awesome he took the one little little ball and the little wand he smashed it on the floor freaking wesley snipes got frozen solid the whole place got frozen solid he ran out and then somehow even though the whole cryo prison was frozen solid it also exploded and he ran away from the explosion so it's great it's full of fuel full of fuel frozen solid fuel and then all exploded who cares it's great
00:34:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:34:57
Speaker
Dude, I freaking loved it.
00:34:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:59
Speaker
Oh, dude, me too.
00:35:00
Speaker
That's your third scene?
00:35:01
Speaker
That was my third scene also, yeah.
00:35:03
Speaker
I do want to – this is going back to – this wasn't one of my scenes, but the very beginning of the movie, the cold open where they're fighting in 1996.
00:35:09
Speaker
I don't understand why – well, first of all, there were like 55-gallon drums that had C4 painted on.
00:35:16
Speaker
That's not how you store C4.
00:35:17
Speaker
That's not how you see it.
00:35:18
Speaker
It doesn't come in drives.
00:35:19
Speaker
Yeah, obviously, on rush hour, you hold it in the back of a trunk of a car.
00:35:22
Speaker
Is that C4?
00:35:23
Speaker
Everybody tripping.
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:24
Speaker
Man, I've been looking all over this, man.
00:35:26
Speaker
You don't even know how happy you made me.
00:35:29
Speaker
But I don't understand why John Spartan went to the cryo prison because Simon Phoenix blew up a building that had hostages in it.
00:35:35
Speaker
I'm all for holding the cops responsible for their actions on the job, but I don't see how that one was his fault.
00:35:41
Speaker
I was confused by that.
00:35:42
Speaker
He was supposed to wait.
00:35:43
Speaker
They told him not to go in.
00:35:45
Speaker
And he went in anyway.
00:35:47
Speaker
And now all those hostages died because he had to be the guy that goes after Simon Phoenix.
00:35:54
Speaker
Right.
00:35:54
Speaker
But I don't think not waiting is a, is a felony.
00:35:57
Speaker
Like Simon Phoenix blew up the building and, and took the hostages and blew them up.
00:36:00
Speaker
And he just happened to be standing there.
00:36:01
Speaker
And it's like, you got to go to prison too for like 70 years.
00:36:03
Speaker
What?
00:36:04
Speaker
That sucks.
00:36:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:06
Speaker
And then he was in there for however many years, 30 something.
00:36:09
Speaker
He was in there for a long time.
00:36:10
Speaker
Learned how to knit.
00:36:10
Speaker
Didn't he have a, he had a wife who died in the big one.
00:36:13
Speaker
The big one of what happened to his daughter.
00:36:15
Speaker
She was alive.
00:36:17
Speaker
She was like, there was a deleted scene where he met her in the future.
00:36:20
Speaker
Oh, damn.
00:36:21
Speaker
I didn't see that.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:22
Speaker
Uh, there was somebody online that says is, I was on Reddit that I was reading about it and they're like, wait, so Sandra Bullock's his daughter.
00:36:29
Speaker
And I was like, well, they had virtual sex.
00:36:32
Speaker
I don't think that would be a thing that you would want to do with your daughter.
00:36:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:35
Speaker
Well, I think that was one of the problems when they – I think they did some re-editing or some reshooting because some of the early test audiences thought that Sandra Bullock was his daughter.
00:36:43
Speaker
I mean she could have been.
00:36:44
Speaker
He was 47.
00:36:45
Speaker
He was 29.
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:46
Speaker
He was 47.
00:36:47
Speaker
She was 29.
00:36:48
Speaker
She was 49.
00:36:48
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:49
Speaker
But yeah, so they had to like do some tweaking to the movie to make sure it's real clear that they're actually not related because it's like, oh, he's got a daughter in the future.
00:36:56
Speaker
And she's like, oh, I'll help you find her.
00:36:57
Speaker
I can look it up.
00:36:58
Speaker
The future is freaking dirty, man.
00:37:00
Speaker
Freaking hooking up with your daughter virtually.
00:37:02
Speaker
I ain't no good.
00:37:03
Speaker
Pass.
00:37:03
Speaker
Pass.
00:37:04
Speaker
Pass.
00:37:05
Speaker
All right.
00:37:05
Speaker
So what's your first, what's your first scene?
00:37:07
Speaker
I mean, your first quote.
00:37:09
Speaker
My first quote was, dude, there's so many good lines in this movie.
00:37:12
Speaker
So many.
00:37:13
Speaker
The first one is Sandra Bullock comes back.
00:37:15
Speaker
This before everyone's unfrozen.
00:37:16
Speaker
She's like complaining in the car about how nothing happens.
00:37:19
Speaker
And she's, she's bored of being a cop in the future because there's nothing fun.
00:37:23
Speaker
And the chief is like,
00:37:25
Speaker
Like gives her a like, it's like, I listened in your call to cryo prison.
00:37:28
Speaker
He's like, I'm very disappointed in you.
00:37:29
Speaker
And like, kind of like, like rips her a little bit.
00:37:32
Speaker
And she just goes, thank you for the attitude readjustment.
00:37:34
Speaker
Info assimilated.
00:37:36
Speaker
And she walks away.
00:37:37
Speaker
I was like, God, I love the way everyone talks.
00:37:39
Speaker
The dialogue in this movie in the future is so good.
00:37:42
Speaker
I don't want to get to that point.
00:37:44
Speaker
Enhance your calm.
00:37:45
Speaker
Have a joy, joy day.
00:37:46
Speaker
Be well.
00:37:47
Speaker
Be well, John Spartan.
00:37:49
Speaker
I don't like that.
00:37:50
Speaker
I don't want to have to talk like that, but I did like it.
00:37:53
Speaker
Maniac responded with a scornful remark.
00:37:57
Speaker
And or else.
00:37:59
Speaker
Dude, so my first quote is when he first gets unfrozen, he comes to the thing, to the police department, and he's got to go to the bathroom.
00:38:12
Speaker
And they're out of toilet paper.
00:38:13
Speaker
It's the three she shows.
00:38:14
Speaker
And the way Sandra Bullock says, Garcia's like, did you say toilet paper?
00:38:21
Speaker
And then she's like, they used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20th.
00:38:26
Speaker
Man, I know that I don't use as much toilet paper anymore.
00:38:30
Speaker
I still use toilet paper, though.
00:38:33
Speaker
I don't know how to use the seashells.
00:38:35
Speaker
I think that's the shtick.
00:38:37
Speaker
And I read the story about how like the guy writing it called a buddy and said like, what could I put in the bathroom that would be futuristic?
00:38:44
Speaker
And he's like, I got a bag of seashells on the back of the toilet for decoration.
00:38:48
Speaker
He's like, all right, cool.
00:38:49
Speaker
I'll make something out of that.
00:38:51
Speaker
Uh, so I read about that.
00:38:53
Speaker
And then I read that Stallone said like, yeah, yeah.
00:38:55
Speaker
You use the first two like chopsticks to clamp together and then pull the waste out of the body.
00:39:01
Speaker
And then you use the third one to scrape it out.
00:39:03
Speaker
And I was like, Oh God, that sounds horrible.
00:39:07
Speaker
I don't know how to use the three seashells.
00:39:09
Speaker
I've tried.
00:39:09
Speaker
I even asked my students today, like what they think it would be, how they would do it.
00:39:14
Speaker
Nobody had any good answers.
00:39:15
Speaker
All of it was gross.
00:39:16
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:16
Speaker
I don't think there is a good answer.
00:39:17
Speaker
I think it's just supposed to be something that you think about.
00:39:19
Speaker
Right.
00:39:20
Speaker
If it was two seashells, you could come up with a use for just two of them.
00:39:22
Speaker
But just the fact that it's three is like, well, shit, why is there a third?
00:39:24
Speaker
I don't understand.
00:39:25
Speaker
Well, in case you drop one, what's the, how do you use two seashells?
00:39:29
Speaker
Well, two seashells, I would just say like, you use one to clean initially to scoop away and then one to come back and wipe.
00:39:36
Speaker
Because they're not like actual – it's not actual seashells from the ocean.
00:39:39
Speaker
I'm sure it's like some kind of futuristic like Japanese toilet shit where you push the seashells-shaped button and you get like a nice soothing warm spray.
00:39:46
Speaker
That would be great.
00:39:48
Speaker
Yeah, but I'm saying like I think the intention was you're just supposed to spend 30 years going like, what were the three seashells?
00:39:54
Speaker
Which is exactly what has happened.
00:39:56
Speaker
Oh, that's gross.
00:39:58
Speaker
So what was the actual quote that you liked there?
00:40:00
Speaker
The quote was when she said they used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20th.
00:40:05
Speaker
I like that they call it the 20th century because I feel like that's what the kids you teach think of it as.
00:40:08
Speaker
Like, oh, yeah, back in the 20th century.
00:40:10
Speaker
It's like, bitch, that's when we were alive.
00:40:12
Speaker
It wasn't that long ago.
00:40:13
Speaker
Yeah, dude, they were like, they said something about Britney Spears.
00:40:16
Speaker
They were like, oh my God, yeah, she was from the 1900s.
00:40:19
Speaker
I was like, what did you just say?
00:40:22
Speaker
She's like, it was like frigging, I don't know, Hit Me Baby One More Time or something, whatever her first song was.
00:40:27
Speaker
And they were like, oh yeah, that song's from the 1900s.
00:40:29
Speaker
I was like, don't you ever say it.
00:40:30
Speaker
1999.
00:40:32
Speaker
Jesus, give us a break.
00:40:34
Speaker
Yeah, that was the 1900s though.
00:40:36
Speaker
It definitely was the late 1900s.
00:40:38
Speaker
Technically correct.
00:40:42
Speaker
Yeah, my second quote was the one you already said.
00:40:44
Speaker
Maniac responded with a scornful remark.
00:40:47
Speaker
Just because that made me laugh every time I heard it.
00:40:49
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:40:50
Speaker
Dude, I really liked this little Palm Pilot.
00:40:52
Speaker
That's a genius idea.
00:40:54
Speaker
I hope we get that for all the jobs.
00:40:56
Speaker
Yes.
00:40:56
Speaker
What's your next quote?
00:40:58
Speaker
My next one is when they're in the car and it's Stallone and Lena Huxley.
00:41:05
Speaker
Lena?
00:41:06
Speaker
Huxley.
00:41:06
Speaker
Lenina.
00:41:07
Speaker
Lenina.
00:41:07
Speaker
That's it.
00:41:09
Speaker
And she's like, yeah, I've in fact perused some newsreels from the Schwarzenegger library.
00:41:13
Speaker
And that time you took the car and he was like, hold up, the Schwarzenegger library?
00:41:17
Speaker
Uh, dude, the whole thing, would they go back and forth in each other's movies?
00:41:21
Speaker
Like we did a, what you call it?
00:41:23
Speaker
Where he was a Terminator.
00:41:24
Speaker
What was that?
00:41:25
Speaker
Oh, that was last action hero.
00:41:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:27
Speaker
Where he puts the loan as the Terminator.
00:41:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:30
Speaker
Cause they had a big feud like in the eighties, but clearly by this point they're kind of like are friendly with each other and they're, they're putting each other in the other movies.
00:41:37
Speaker
And these movies both come out in 1993, which is kind of amazing.
00:41:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:41
Speaker
And that's, I freaking love that.
00:41:42
Speaker
When he was like.
00:41:43
Speaker
I kind of wonder if they negotiated that.
00:41:45
Speaker
Like, hey, Schwarzenegger wants to put you in Last Action Hero as the actor in T2.
00:41:50
Speaker
Maybe there's something you could put him in.
00:41:52
Speaker
And he's like, I'm doing Demolition Man.
00:41:53
Speaker
He could be the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library.
00:41:55
Speaker
I don't know if they did that or not.
00:41:56
Speaker
She, I thought it was great how they added in there.
00:42:00
Speaker
His popularity caused the 61st Amendment.
00:42:04
Speaker
Just, dude, all of the, they just went through all the way through.
00:42:07
Speaker
But when he was like, hold on.
00:42:09
Speaker
Schwarzenegger library.
00:42:10
Speaker
Cause you know, like I'm picturing, like you said, them feuding constantly.
00:42:15
Speaker
I forgot that was even in there.
00:42:16
Speaker
I freaking loved it.
00:42:17
Speaker
So I threw it in there.
00:42:18
Speaker
I definitely didn't forget that.
00:42:19
Speaker
Cause I think about that.
00:42:20
Speaker
Well, I thought about it all the time when Schwarzenegger first started getting into politics, I was like freaking demolition, man.
00:42:24
Speaker
Again, we're going to have to pass the amendment.
00:42:25
Speaker
So Schwarzenegger can be president.
00:42:27
Speaker
The governor, the governor, the governor.
00:42:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:29
Speaker
What's your third?
00:42:30
Speaker
My third quote is again at the police station when he's first unfrozen and he sees Zachary Lamb, the old guy who was his helicopter pilot back when he was young.
00:42:38
Speaker
And he's like, gosh, you were a hell of a pilot.
00:42:41
Speaker
And he's like, peep, John Carpard, you'll find one credit for the violation of the verbal morality statute.
00:42:46
Speaker
And Benjamin Bratt says to Sandra Bullock, he's like, they seem to be friends, yet he speaks to them in the most profane manner.
00:42:52
Speaker
And then Sandra Bullock goes, if you'd read my study, you'd know that this is how insecure heterosexual men used to bond.
00:43:01
Speaker
Oh, man, that's what I'm saying.
00:43:02
Speaker
They're just straight out in the open with all the stuff.
00:43:06
Speaker
Oh, man, it was so good.
00:43:08
Speaker
I like it.
00:43:08
Speaker
I like it.
00:43:09
Speaker
Dude, so my third quote was like that.
00:43:11
Speaker
It's when she comes walking out and she says it like really low, and she says like a sanctimonious asshole, and the machine on the wall says, Lena Huxley, you've been fined one half credit for Soto Voce violation of the verbal morality statute.
00:43:28
Speaker
And I was like, Soto Voce?
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:30
Speaker
And it's Latin for like under your voice.
00:43:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:33
Speaker
It's like it's speaking with a low volume.
00:43:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:37
Speaker
Dude, that's freaking great because she whispered it and it changed what the actual thing on the wall says.
00:43:43
Speaker
Yeah, it changed the font.
00:43:44
Speaker
Dude, tell everybody about the thing you found on the internet about the machine.
00:43:49
Speaker
Oh, dude.
00:43:49
Speaker
So I was looking up like stuff about these machines and I came across this website where the guy –
00:43:57
Speaker
Talked about how he was making one.
00:43:59
Speaker
So he took a PS3 microphone camera combo and put it in a thing that looks just like that.
00:44:06
Speaker
And the reason- He put it in like a housing and used like a Raspberry Pi with some AI software, like voice algorithm stuff.
00:44:13
Speaker
So he could recognize when he said dirty words.
00:44:16
Speaker
Dude, and there's a video on YouTube.
00:44:17
Speaker
He actually, if you, like, if he swears in front of it and like, it plays the audio clip and then it prints out a ticket that says fine.
00:44:23
Speaker
Prints out a thing.
00:44:24
Speaker
So dude, I found out why it looks so good is because those things, those, those used to be, uh, um, intercoms in German, in Germany throughout the eighties and nineties.
00:44:33
Speaker
So everybody was like, yeah, they look kind of fancy.
00:44:36
Speaker
Let's just make them that they add the little printer and dude, his prints it out and it says stuff on it and says fine and everything.
00:44:42
Speaker
God's genius.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:44
Speaker
The YouTube video.
00:44:45
Speaker
I was like, I was like, shit, this really works.
00:44:46
Speaker
This is fantastic.
00:44:48
Speaker
It would go off constantly in my house.
00:44:50
Speaker
I don't want to, I don't want to go off constantly in my house too.
00:44:54
Speaker
You'd definitely have to have an off switch if I had one.
00:44:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:58
Speaker
That's all three, though.
00:44:59
Speaker
That's all three for me.
00:45:00
Speaker
Nice.
00:45:01
Speaker
Any other extra quotes for you?
00:45:02
Speaker
No.
00:45:02
Speaker
I mean, the dialogue in this movie is fantastic.
00:45:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
But those are the three that I got.
00:45:07
Speaker
Let's do characters.
00:45:08
Speaker
Who's your first character?
00:45:10
Speaker
First character is Wesley Snipes, Simon Phoenix.
00:45:13
Speaker
Yep.
00:45:13
Speaker
Dude, he looks really cool.
00:45:16
Speaker
Yeah, dude, he looks super cool.
00:45:17
Speaker
When he gets even further down, like not when he's wearing like the early NSYNC outfit where it's like a orange mesh t-shirt with his nipples poking out and a pair of overalls.
00:45:29
Speaker
I'm talking about when he gets to the part where he's like big frigging shoulder pads made of tire threads.
00:45:35
Speaker
Yeah, like that.
00:45:36
Speaker
Wesley Snipes looks freaking sweet.
00:45:39
Speaker
I wrote that down, man.
00:45:40
Speaker
Even though he looked like the badass Mario Brothers.
00:45:43
Speaker
He's wearing overalls with a red mesh shirt underneath it and boots and the blonde hair.
00:45:47
Speaker
I was like, dude, if I was super jacked like Wesley Snipes, I feel like I would dress like that.
00:45:52
Speaker
I would know I would feel like an idiot, but he looks so cool.
00:45:55
Speaker
Dude, at a certain point, I'm pretty sure you can just dress however you want if you're kind of cool like that.
00:45:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:00
Speaker
He definitely pulled it in.
00:46:01
Speaker
Again, agreed.
00:46:02
Speaker
Later on when he was wearing the freaking armor made out of old tires, he's like, he looks badass in that too.
00:46:06
Speaker
It's awesome.
00:46:07
Speaker
Dude, he looks so cool.
00:46:08
Speaker
Those shoulders look like old three-wheeler wheels.
00:46:13
Speaker
You know what I'm talking about?
00:46:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:14
Speaker
It looks awesome.
00:46:15
Speaker
By the way, did you know that he was – because he's like a real-life black belt, he was kicking and punching so fast that it was blurring on camera.
00:46:25
Speaker
So they were like, you got to slow down like –
00:46:27
Speaker
The camera can't keep up with your hands and it doesn't look as good if it's blurry.
00:46:32
Speaker
So you got to slow down.
00:46:33
Speaker
So that's why it kind of looks kind of awkward sometimes because he had to, he literally had to slow down for the camera.
00:46:41
Speaker
That's freaking bad.
00:46:42
Speaker
I was trying to find out.
00:46:43
Speaker
Super fast.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yeah, you can tell he actually knows karate, which is, I think, cool.
00:46:47
Speaker
They had to try really hard to get him to do this movie.
00:46:49
Speaker
They offered it to him once, and he didn't.
00:46:51
Speaker
Like, a couple people they offered it to, like Jackie Chan, they offered it, and he didn't want to be the villain.
00:46:55
Speaker
Wesley Snipes at first turned it down.
00:46:56
Speaker
And then eventually, like, the director and the writer went and met with him and, like, tried to explain, like, here's what we're thinking.
00:47:02
Speaker
Like, it's going to be awesome.
00:47:03
Speaker
You can say all kind of cool shit.
00:47:05
Speaker
You're going to get to fight Stallone.
00:47:06
Speaker
Like, you guys will be pretty evenly matched.
00:47:08
Speaker
And he eventually, like, took it.
00:47:09
Speaker
But they had to, like, work on him to get it done.
00:47:12
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:47:13
Speaker
What about the part where he speaks Spanish too and how nobody knew he could speak Spanish?
00:47:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:18
Speaker
So they were doing rehearsals and he just started rehearsing his lines, saying his lines in Spanish.
00:47:24
Speaker
And that's why the guy apparently when they were filming –
00:47:28
Speaker
he didn't know that he was going to say that.
00:47:30
Speaker
That's why it was like a genuine, what the hell.
00:47:32
Speaker
Um, that's frigging sweet.
00:47:34
Speaker
Like, and they just left it in there cause everybody liked it.
00:47:36
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that's freaking, that's killer.
00:47:38
Speaker
Uh, the costume designer's name is Bob Ringwood.
00:47:41
Speaker
He, um,
00:47:43
Speaker
He also created the Batman suit for Tim Burton Batman.
00:47:47
Speaker
Ooh.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:48
Speaker
That's a good Batman.
00:47:49
Speaker
He is a pretty badass costume designer, especially if you're doing an action movie in the 90s.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's one of my favorite Batman costumes too.
00:47:58
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
00:47:58
Speaker
It's classic.
00:47:59
Speaker
And everyone since then has kind of ripped it off a little bit because before then, Batman was like gray shirt with the blue tights and the blue.
00:48:06
Speaker
And this was like all black with the yellow.
00:48:08
Speaker
Yeah, and it looked good too.
00:48:11
Speaker
The yellow belt really stands out.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah, no, Wesley Snipes is one of my characters too.
00:48:17
Speaker
I almost didn't put him in there because I felt like he was way over the top at parts of this, and I hated the quips.
00:48:24
Speaker
God, that's – But I also think that like –
00:48:27
Speaker
I don't think it should have been his job to not be over the top.
00:48:30
Speaker
Like over the top is what you want from him.
00:48:32
Speaker
Like the director or the editor should have been like, let's not use all the over the top takes because what you want from Wesley is like, dude, crank it up as loud as you can and then we'll fix it later.
00:48:41
Speaker
Right.
00:48:41
Speaker
But I couldn't keep him out because honestly, man, I think it's such a milestone performance for Wesley Snipes.
00:48:46
Speaker
And anytime I think of this movie, I always think of him.
00:48:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:49
Speaker
That's because he looks the coolest.
00:48:50
Speaker
It's so memorable.
00:48:51
Speaker
He looks super cool.
00:48:52
Speaker
Super cool.
00:48:53
Speaker
And he's great in like 80% of it.
00:48:55
Speaker
And he's badass.
00:48:57
Speaker
It's just some quips.
00:48:59
Speaker
But dude, there were some times where it's like I got a little bit of like Jack Nicholson, Joker, or like Tommy Lee Jones and Under Siege vibes where it's like he was just like kind of frenetic, like a cackling like a maniac.
00:49:09
Speaker
It's like you're a little too much right there.
00:49:11
Speaker
Right.
00:49:11
Speaker
But not that much.
00:49:12
Speaker
And it's overall such a killer performance.
00:49:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:15
Speaker
How much of that though is like direction where the, the guys.
00:49:18
Speaker
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:49:19
Speaker
Like, I'm, I don't think that's his job to fix that.
00:49:21
Speaker
I think that's somebody else's job.
00:49:22
Speaker
Like, right.
00:49:23
Speaker
They, I mean, he's playing a psychopath.
00:49:25
Speaker
He clearly was told to like crank it up.
00:49:26
Speaker
And the director said, like, I think probably trying to be nice about it.
00:49:30
Speaker
He's like, Wesley doesn't really like to rehearse.
00:49:31
Speaker
It's not really part of his process.
00:49:32
Speaker
He just likes to get in there and improvise.
00:49:34
Speaker
He's like, so I think that's kind of his way of going.
00:49:37
Speaker
Like,
00:49:37
Speaker
What you get is what you get because he doesn't really want to rehearse.
00:49:40
Speaker
You get what you get and you don't throw a fit.
00:49:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:43
Speaker
And to me, it's like, hey, if it works, man, Wesley Snipes, clearly that works.
00:49:46
Speaker
Frickin' go for it.
00:49:47
Speaker
Do your thing.
00:49:48
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:49
Speaker
And if Stallone is cool with it too, especially it's like, well, this is how we're doing this movie.
00:49:52
Speaker
You better figure it out.
00:49:53
Speaker
Yeah, you better turn it up to 11 or you're going to be left behind.
00:49:56
Speaker
Yeah, well, and the director, Marco Brambilla, this is his first feature film.
00:50:01
Speaker
He was doing like music videos before this.
00:50:02
Speaker
So probably I'm guessing that that stuff really is more on the director than it is on Wesley Snipes.
00:50:07
Speaker
So I got him in there too, but he was my third because I struggled a little bit.
00:50:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:12
Speaker
So if he's your third, who's your next one?
00:50:14
Speaker
Or who's your first one?
00:50:16
Speaker
The first one on my list is Sandra Bullock.
00:50:18
Speaker
See, yeah, I put her second.
00:50:19
Speaker
I liked her.
00:50:21
Speaker
This is her first leading role.
00:50:24
Speaker
She had one minor part before this, but she does this movie.
00:50:28
Speaker
This is a big movie.
00:50:29
Speaker
And then she does Speed in 1994, next year.
00:50:32
Speaker
And at that point, after these two back-to-back, that's her first two movies.
00:50:36
Speaker
She's a star.
00:50:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:38
Speaker
But man, she's so good.
00:50:39
Speaker
She kills it in both of these.
00:50:40
Speaker
I know.
00:50:41
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:50:41
Speaker
She's so good in this movie.
00:50:42
Speaker
Like she's really like earnest and energetic and she's like a perfect foil for Sylvester Stallone.
00:50:47
Speaker
Like his guy's like John Spartan.
00:50:50
Speaker
He's like misanthropic, sarcastic, frozen man thing that he's doing.
00:50:53
Speaker
Like she's so good and like playing against that.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:57
Speaker
She – I'm glad you said speed too because they're – speed also.
00:51:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:02
Speaker
Because the Imperial Highway that they filmed part of this on that wasn't open to the public was still not open to the public when they filmed Speed and they filmed that there too.
00:51:12
Speaker
Nice.
00:51:12
Speaker
So they were both on that same thing.
00:51:15
Speaker
Also, did you see that Lori Petty was supposed to be – Lori Petty was this Lenita Huxley.
00:51:22
Speaker
That was her role for like two days and then she basically got fired.
00:51:25
Speaker
And they said personality differences.
00:51:27
Speaker
And then she basically said like she didn't get along.
00:51:29
Speaker
Her and Stallone did not get along, which I can definitely see because Stallone we know is kind of a dick and Lori Petty is also kind of a dick.
00:51:36
Speaker
So I can see they didn't get along.
00:51:38
Speaker
Yeah, both of them.
00:51:39
Speaker
And Sandra Bullock seems like everyone likes her.
00:51:40
Speaker
Yeah, who doesn't like Sandra Bullock?
00:51:43
Speaker
There's people that don't like her.
00:51:44
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:51:45
Speaker
Sandra or Sandra?
00:51:47
Speaker
I don't know.
00:51:48
Speaker
Next time we have her on the podcast, we'll ask.
00:51:51
Speaker
Nice.
00:51:51
Speaker
I did take note that she's 29 and Stallone is 47.
00:51:55
Speaker
So that's a problem that movie's been having for a long time, 20-year age gaps with the romantic leads.
00:52:03
Speaker
With the love interest?
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:05
Speaker
And also Lenina Huxley is a reference to Aldous Huxley, who wrote the novel Brave New World.
00:52:11
Speaker
Which is kind of about a futuristic kind of utopia, but also kind of terrifying situation.
00:52:17
Speaker
Yeah, same idea.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah, I put Sandra Bullock as my second, so good call.
00:52:22
Speaker
Because I'm talking about Lenina Huxley, the names in this movie, the character names, are freaking incredible.
00:52:28
Speaker
Like, Warden Smithers, Lenina Huxley, Simon Phoenix, John Spartan, Zachary Lamb, Edgar Friendly, Dr. Cocteau.
00:52:36
Speaker
I don't know how you come up with names.
00:52:38
Speaker
Other than just click a name generator...
00:52:41
Speaker
Uh, I got, I'm not good at coming up with names like that.
00:52:44
Speaker
I'm terrible at that.
00:52:45
Speaker
And the answer for me is, uh, I asked chat GPT anytime I have to name something in like a role playing game or something like that, I just get chat GPT to do it.
00:52:52
Speaker
But I don't, in 1993, I have no idea, but that's like, those are amazing names.
00:52:57
Speaker
Every one of them is like really spot on, perfect, really memorable.
00:53:01
Speaker
I, uh, especially like the very last person that I chose for my, my, uh, third.
00:53:07
Speaker
All right.
00:53:08
Speaker
He, associate Bob.
00:53:11
Speaker
As I knew you were going to pick associate Bob.
00:53:13
Speaker
Dude, do you not like that guy?
00:53:14
Speaker
No, I do.
00:53:15
Speaker
Glenn Shattuck's freaking, uh, from Beetlejuice.
00:53:18
Speaker
Like, uh, he's Otho from Beetlejuice.
00:53:21
Speaker
Like, uh, he was in the, uh, the other movie I saw not that long ago.
00:53:26
Speaker
The Heathers.
00:53:26
Speaker
Heathers?
00:53:27
Speaker
Heathers.
00:53:28
Speaker
Dude, I freaking love that guy.
00:53:30
Speaker
And, uh, I was reading about how, like in the novelization, uh, they reveal that he's actually a eunuch.
00:53:38
Speaker
And that Dr. Cocteau had him castrated to prevent him from becoming too ambitious.
00:53:45
Speaker
Nice.
00:53:45
Speaker
But they kind of left that part out of the movie because, you know, like if you realize that that guy would do all that kind of stuff, you would realize he's the bad guy right away.
00:53:55
Speaker
But –
00:53:56
Speaker
Dude, I freaking love that guy.
00:53:57
Speaker
I love the way he acts.
00:53:58
Speaker
I love his delivery.
00:54:01
Speaker
I love how he's always standing straight up, hands clasped by his chest.
00:54:07
Speaker
I just love that dude.
00:54:08
Speaker
And every time someone gets killed and he's like, I'm associate Bob.
00:54:12
Speaker
I'd be very happy to remain on during your administration.
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:16
Speaker
Wesley Snipes is like, yeah, sure, whatever.
00:54:18
Speaker
And then at the very end of the movie, Dennis Leary's like, he's like, Bob, stop.
00:54:22
Speaker
He's like, let's talk about your hair.
00:54:23
Speaker
He's like, pick a color.
00:54:24
Speaker
He's like, what is this?
00:54:24
Speaker
Kimono?
00:54:25
Speaker
He's like, you gotta lose that.
00:54:25
Speaker
You look like a couch.
00:54:30
Speaker
Ah, frigging Dennis Leary does.
00:54:31
Speaker
He's funny sometimes.
00:54:33
Speaker
He was definitely funny in the 90s.
00:54:35
Speaker
I don't know if I think he's funny anymore.
00:54:37
Speaker
Probably been a long time.
00:54:38
Speaker
But at the time, I thought he was really funny.
00:54:40
Speaker
Yeah, his asshole song was super funny back in the day.
00:54:45
Speaker
So who's your third?
00:54:46
Speaker
My third was Sylvester Stallone.
00:54:48
Speaker
I didn't put Stallone.
00:54:50
Speaker
I don't know why I didn't put him, but I didn't put him.
00:54:52
Speaker
I mean, he's just like, if I rank his movie roles, this is either second or third for me.
00:54:57
Speaker
It's definitely behind Rocky.
00:54:59
Speaker
It maybe is behind Rambo.
00:55:00
Speaker
I'm not as big on Rambo.
00:55:02
Speaker
I'd have to go rewatch Rambo, but this is in the top three.
00:55:05
Speaker
I didn't like Rambo as much as I liked Rocky either, but I'm saying this is...
00:55:09
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I mean, this guy's a Mount Rushmore action hero of my lifetime, and this is probably his second most memorable movie role.
00:55:15
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Like, it's great.
00:55:17
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I really liked Rocky.
00:55:18
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All the Rocky movies, I always liked those growing up.
00:55:22
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But I don't even know, like, other than this, Judge Dredd and Rocky, I don't remember watching an Oscar.
00:55:29
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Yeah.
00:55:30
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Oscar.
00:55:30
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That's the funny thing is if you look through Stallone's filmography, it's like, man, there are fewer movies there than you would think.
00:55:38
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Yeah, I don't know, man.
00:55:39
Speaker
If you don't like Rambo or Rocky, you're stuck with some not as good Stallone movies.
00:55:45
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Yeah, I think if you take away the Rocky, you know, whatever, nine Rocky movies, if you delete those from Stallone's career, it looks very different because those are like Oscar winners, made hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:55:56
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Right.
00:55:57
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Critical success, commercial success.
00:55:59
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Yeah.
00:56:00
Speaker
But he's just, I don't know.
00:56:01
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It's hard for me to think, like they offered this movie to Jean-Claude Van Damme.
00:56:05
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I would have watched it if it had been Van Damme and Wesley Snipes, but I don't think it would have been nearly as good.
00:56:09
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It wouldn't have.
00:56:09
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They also offered it to your friend.
00:56:12
Speaker
What's his name?
00:56:12
Speaker
Seagal.
00:56:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:14
Speaker
He turned it down.
00:56:14
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Yeah.
00:56:16
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So that's something like there are other people that would have made this movie, but I just think there's something about Stallone that I thought really makes it work.
00:56:21
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Yeah.
00:56:21
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Like, dude, I don't have a problem with Stallone.
00:56:24
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He just didn't make my top three.
00:56:25
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He didn't beat Associate Bob.
00:56:27
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Yeah, for sure.
00:56:28
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And I also had a little bonus shout out for Benjamin Bratt because he didn't have that much to do, but I really liked, I liked what he was
Behind the Scenes: Influences and Collaborations
00:56:34
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doing.
00:56:34
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He did good in this.
00:56:35
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And then, and then him and Sandra Bullock are going to like work together again on Miss Congeniality in 2000.
00:56:40
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Yeah.
00:56:40
Speaker
Which is a movie that I just found out is directed by Lawrence, something Lawrence and his kids have a band that my kids are obsessed with right now.
00:56:52
Speaker
Lawrence Kasdan?
00:56:54
Speaker
No, no.
00:56:55
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Lawrence is his last name.
00:56:56
Speaker
Oh.
00:56:57
Speaker
And the name of the band that they started is called Lawrence.
00:57:02
Speaker
It's just like a bunch of, it's like white people funk.
00:57:06
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Mark Lawrence, I think, is the writer.
00:57:08
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He's a writer, not a director.
00:57:10
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Yeah, written by Mark Lawrence.
00:57:11
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Mark Lawrence.
00:57:12
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That's a long anecdote without very much information in it.
00:57:15
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His kids, yeah, his kids made a band, which is fantastic.
00:57:18
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You guys should all check them out there.
00:57:20
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Super fun.
00:57:20
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I'm going to go delete that later.
00:57:22
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Whatever.
00:57:23
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Super fun.
00:57:24
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My kids listen to a band from the guy that directed that film.
00:57:27
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What was his name?
00:57:27
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I'm not sure.
00:57:28
Speaker
Actually, maybe he wrote it.
00:57:29
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The important thing was he had an onion on his belt, which was his title at the time.
00:57:32
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It all came together at the end.
00:57:35
Speaker
All came together.
00:57:36
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Writer, director, actors.
00:57:38
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The first thing I had on this was the producer.
00:57:40
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Joel Silver was the producer, and I think it's worth talking about Joel Silver because he produced basically every iconic 80s and 90s action movie, like Commando, Die Hard, the Lethal Weapon franchise, all the way to the Matrix franchise.
00:57:51
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This dude, everything in the 80s and 90s where shit blew up, he produced.
00:57:55
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Yeah, I liked a ton of his movies, and...
00:57:59
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There was a bunch of them that I could take or leave.
00:58:02
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Like, again, I like misses, but like he's every big action movie he had a part of.
00:58:06
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Yeah.
00:58:07
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And I liked the diehard movies.
00:58:08
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There's just not like all of them aren't my favorite, but like he did like kiss, kiss, bang, bang.
00:58:12
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And like, like when I started getting into scary movies, like house on haunted Hill and 13 ghosts, he did those.
00:58:19
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So I dude, he's, he's awesome.
00:58:21
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I don't know.
00:58:22
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I still don't, I'm not a hundred percent sure on what producers do,
00:58:25
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But man.
00:58:26
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Yeah, I think it's a pretty vague job title.
00:58:28
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And he didn't executive produce that many things, but he did produce a bunch of stuff.
00:58:32
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So he was one of the multiple producers.
00:58:34
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People that did stuff, yeah.
00:58:36
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I mean, that's the stuff that brings people to, like, the people who end up being responsible for a project.
00:58:40
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Hire the director, find the studio, get the script, get the actors.
00:58:44
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Right, right, right.
00:58:45
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I think that job title can be like they are in charge of everything to like they kicked in $20,000 and then we told them when the screening was.
00:58:52
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Right, right, right.
00:58:53
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But this guy made enough money and won enough stuff that I think he probably was pretty involved.
00:58:58
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Yeah, yeah.
00:58:58
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The director, Marco Brambilla.
00:59:01
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Brambilla.
00:59:02
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Or Brambilla.
00:59:03
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Brambilla.
00:59:04
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That bus over there.
00:59:05
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Tamazula.
00:59:06
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Tamazula.
00:59:07
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Yeah.
00:59:09
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First time director for this movie.
00:59:10
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He was a music video director.
00:59:12
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There was a point in time, and I guess maybe they still do it, but like people direct music videos and they would be like, that guy's awesome at music videos.
00:59:19
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We should give him a movie.
00:59:21
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And then sometimes it would work out.
00:59:23
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Yeah.
00:59:23
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All the stuff that I saw, which by the way, if you haven't seen the stuff that he's into now, like the single channel high definition, like videos that are like four minutes long, they're like art installations.
00:59:36
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They're awesome.
00:59:36
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Yeah.
00:59:37
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Like he did the power video for Kanye West, which isn't even the whole song.
00:59:41
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It's like a minute and 15 seconds.
00:59:43
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It's awesome, dude.
00:59:44
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It's layered videos of other stuff.
00:59:49
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Ah, God, it's like zoomed in.
00:59:50
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And as you zoom it out, it shows the whole scene.
00:59:54
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It's ridiculous.
00:59:55
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Yeah.
00:59:56
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All of his stuff is good.
00:59:57
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And you could tell like the stuff from Demolition Man and the stuff that he did before to this Megaplex stuff that he's doing now is crazy good.
01:00:07
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Yeah, and he didn't direct that many movies.
01:00:08
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He did this one and maybe one more and then kind of went just to doing, like you're saying, music videos and kind of art installation, kind of almost digital art stuff.
01:00:17
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Yeah, it's digital art.
01:00:19
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That's basically what it is.
01:00:20
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Dude, I tried to look up the other thing that's marked down in his filmography.
01:00:25
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It's an anthology film.
01:00:26
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The Explorer was the line of art and pornography intersect.
01:00:29
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And I was like, oh, okay.
01:00:30
Speaker
Shouldn't have looked that up on the school computer, but since we're doing it.
01:00:34
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Yeah.
01:00:35
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Subscribe to Patreon, $5 a month, because Jeff might get fired from his job.
01:00:40
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Dude, I didn't look up the movie.
01:00:42
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I just, I didn't watch it, but.
01:00:44
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Yeah.
01:00:44
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Did you, did you look up anything about the writers?
01:00:46
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I just saw that there were a bunch of writers involved.
01:00:48
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Like someone came up with the idea and wrote an initial draft and someone did a total rewrite and then someone else came in and did another rewrite.
01:00:54
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Yeah.
01:00:54
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Someone else did some punch up work and then Larry wrote his part and Snipes was ad libbing and there's a million people involved.
01:01:00
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Yeah, yeah.
01:01:01
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So one of the guys that the screenplay did, like Action Jackson was his only movie that he did good.
01:01:07
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One of the guys did the screenplay for Son-in-Law and two of the Universal Soldiers.
01:01:12
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And then the screenplay, the screenwriter guy for the main guy, Daniel Waters, he did Hudson Hawk, Batman Returns, Adventures of Fort Fairlane with Andrew Dice Clay, and The Heathers.
01:01:28
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So some of the stuff...
01:01:30
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These guys, like, you know, but most of it you don't.
01:01:33
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Which is surprising because it actually, I think, ended up being a really good script.
01:01:37
Speaker
So it's weird that it's like...
01:01:39
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The script came from half a dozen different writers, none of whom ever sat in the room together, and a director who had never directed before.
01:01:47
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And then it actually turned out to be a really good movie.
01:01:50
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That almost never happens.
01:01:51
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Yeah, that's good stuff.
01:01:53
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Yeah, I got nothing else on the writer-directors.
01:01:56
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The only other good I had was just some cameos.
01:01:58
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Like Jesse Ventura was part of...
01:02:00
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Wesley Snipes gang.
01:02:01
Speaker
He had a fight scene with Sylvester Stallone ended up getting cut out, but you can see him in a couple of the scenes.
01:02:06
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Yeah.
01:02:07
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You talked about Jack Black being like in Dennis Leary with under underneath the city with Dennis Leary where they're eating rat burgers.
01:02:13
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He's down there.
01:02:14
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Yeah.
01:02:14
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Yeah.
01:02:15
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And did you see the guy, the lounge singer and the Taco Bell restaurant?
01:02:21
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Dan Cortez.
01:02:22
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Of course I did.
01:02:22
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Dan Cortez.
01:02:24
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MTV sports.
01:02:25
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MTV, MTV VJ MTV sports.
01:02:27
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Dan Cortez.
01:02:28
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Like always wearing the, um, was it was like a bandana.
01:02:32
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He's always got like slicked back a ponytail, like Steven Seagal with a bandana.
01:02:37
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I don't know.
01:02:38
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Uh, I don't, I didn't know he was in this.
01:02:40
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I didn't remember that.
01:02:41
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Well, apparently there was some promotional tie in with MTV and I don't know if that was like, because he was in the movie or if he got in the movie because of that, or if that was probably that second one.
01:02:50
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Yeah.
01:02:50
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The person who won the sweepstakes got to press the button to blow up the building in the beginning.
01:02:55
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That's pretty awesome.
01:02:56
Speaker
That is awesome.
01:02:57
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I want to press the button.
01:02:59
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The only thing I had for a thing, it was two things.
01:03:01
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One in the very beginning when Wesley Snipes is typing and they tell that he's looking for where the guns are and the machines like telling him what a gun is.
01:03:12
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And he's like, I don't need a history lesson.
01:03:13
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Come on.
01:03:13
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How, where's the guns?
01:03:15
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I was like, how, why'd he call it?
01:03:16
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How?
01:03:16
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And then I remembered that's from 2001 a space, space Odyssey.
01:03:20
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So that, that was pretty cool.
01:03:22
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And then the other thing, the director said the most expensive part about making a science fiction movie is the vehicles, like spaceships and or cars.
01:03:33
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Yeah.
01:03:34
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And General Motors provided 18 concept vehicles.
01:03:38
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Yeah, they gave them these like fiberglass ultralight cars.
01:03:40
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They just donated them so they could just use them in the movie, which is pretty awesome.
01:03:43
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Yeah, that's awesome.
01:03:44
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So it saved a bunch of money right there.
01:03:46
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That's the only two things I had for bonus good that you didn't mention.
01:03:50
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Yeah.
01:03:50
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Yeah, and now you would just do all that digitally.
01:03:53
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So it's cool that these were actual cars that people could sit in.
01:03:56
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Worst?
01:03:57
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I didn't really, I mean, I talked about Wesley Snipes a little bit.
01:04:00
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I thought he had like, he took it a little too far.
01:04:02
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But again, I don't put that on him.
01:04:04
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I put it on the director.
01:04:05
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But I wish he would have been like, backed it off as coach.
01:04:08
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That would be nice.
Potential Edits and Modern Viewing Habits
01:04:09
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Right.
01:04:09
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I don't know if it's because we've been doing this for so long now or that I just, I can't.
01:04:15
Speaker
I can't not see it anymore.
01:04:17
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Now I'm just looking at the stuff that could have been cut out.
01:04:21
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So I'm just like, like some of the stuff where they're like taking John Spartan out of the cryo prison.
01:04:28
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Yeah.
01:04:28
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That dude, that was like two minutes long.
01:04:30
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It could have been way faster when they're fighting in the museum and he's gone through the whole thing.
01:04:34
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That could have been shorter.
01:04:35
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Like, uh, even the going through the underworld, like, uh,
01:04:38
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It's like two minutes and 30 seconds of Dennis Leary doing his rant, and that could have been shorter.
01:04:43
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So, like, I think we could have cut out a total of, like, maybe seven, eight minutes, and that would have even made it go even faster.
01:04:52
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Even the thing, like, the lead-in to the sex scene could have been faster.
01:04:56
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Like, all of that stuff...
01:04:58
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Now that's all I can see.
01:04:59
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I was like, huh, they could have taken those things out and it would have been better.
01:05:02
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And now I hate that because I was never that person.
01:05:04
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Well, I think part of that is that – part of it is that we're watching movies critically, which we really have not ever done before in a podcast.
01:05:09
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And part of it is that just movies are – they're just paced differently because people – I don't know.
01:05:14
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Like it's one of the things we talk about all the time.
01:05:15
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We do these movies.
01:05:16
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Sometimes it's like I like that that scene was in there because you wouldn't put that scene in there if you made the movie anymore.
01:05:21
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You wouldn't put the –
01:05:22
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random scene where they're talking about like in city slickers, they're on the cattle drive and they're just talking about baseball when they were kids with their dad.
01:05:29
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Like you wouldn't put that, that scene doesn't advance the plot and it doesn't give you any, you just would cut that.
01:05:33
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But I liked that it's in there.
01:05:35
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Yeah.
01:05:35
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But yeah, you definitely could have tightened this up a little bit, but honestly it's, it's 115 minutes.
01:05:40
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So it's slightly less than two hours.
01:05:42
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It didn't feel like, it didn't feel that long to me.
01:05:44
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I would, I would have maybe, there's probably 10 minutes we could cut out of there, but I think it's actually pretty well paced.
01:05:48
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Yeah, no, it was fine.
01:05:50
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We could tighten up a few things, but I think it's pretty good.
01:05:53
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And even looking back, I couldn't even tell you exactly what to take out.
01:05:57
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But in the moment, I was like, they could have taken that out.
01:06:01
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I think anytime you look at reediting a movie from 30 years ago for 2023, you go like, we're going to take eight minutes out of this thing because people don't want to sit through his Stallone walking down the hallway with his hands handcuffed in front of him.
01:06:12
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Like, yeah.
01:06:13
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And, and yeah.
01:06:14
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And I was going to say that one of the teachers just sent us an email this past week that said the new numbers are out and the average high schooler has a attention span of like 18 seconds.
01:06:25
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Yeah.
01:06:27
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I was like, so I'm supposed to change up what I'm doing every 18 seconds?
01:06:31
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Yeah.
01:06:32
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Yeah, I can't do that.
01:06:33
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Which is why we don't have a lot of high schoolers listening to our hour-long podcast about 30-year-old movies from the late 1900s.
01:06:39
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From the late 1900s.
01:06:41
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God bless.
01:06:43
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So old.
01:06:44
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Yeah, I got no other bad stuff.
01:06:47
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I hate the quips we've talked about that.
01:06:49
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Yeah.
01:06:49
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They're just in there, though.
01:06:50
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That's just how it is.
01:06:51
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Yeah.
01:06:52
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You got to do it.
01:06:53
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And then for political incorrectness, the only thing I had was like at one point in the museum, Wesley Snipes just randomly for no reason at all made some like derogatory Asian sounds with his mouth.
01:07:01
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Yeah.
01:07:01
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He saw do that for.
01:07:03
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Yeah.
01:07:03
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He saw some Asian people walk past and then went like ching chong ching.
01:07:07
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I was like, what the hell was that?
01:07:08
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That's that was weird.
01:07:10
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And that was a strange choice that did nothing to help this movie.
01:07:13
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And it was offensive.
01:07:15
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But that's really all I saw.
01:07:16
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Yeah.
01:07:17
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I didn't see any other any other stuff either.
01:07:20
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Yeah, five questions.
01:07:20
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Is it okay for kids?
01:07:22
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Dude, I say 11 plus because Jake enjoyed the, he liked the quips, but he's 11.
01:07:28
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Yeah, that's perfect.
01:07:29
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And I don't even think because his 18 second attention span was like, squirrel, and looked off.
01:07:35
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I don't even think he saw the boobs because he didn't say anything about it and he didn't look awkward and I made sure to try to make eye contact with him.
01:07:41
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Dude, when we were talking about doing this movie and you said you couldn't watch it with him, I was like, I don't think there are any boobs in that.
01:07:46
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There was definitely boobs.
01:07:47
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I saw it.
01:07:48
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Oh, really?
01:07:48
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That's just my – Yeah.
01:07:50
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Those stunt boobs and then that call, I just – like both of those, I was just like – I remember those boobs, but that was – Dude, I don't – I mean – That was 15-year-old me going, boobs.
01:08:01
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I think, I feel like I care a lot less about an 11 year old seeing like 20 milliseconds of boobs than I do him seeing like two hours of people kicking the shit out of each other.
01:08:11
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Right.
01:08:12
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He knows, he knows the difference of what, that's why I was fine with him watching it.
01:08:17
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But yeah.
Speculating a Prequel: Casting Modern Actors
01:08:19
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So this movie get made if it were pitched now.
01:08:21
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Yeah.
01:08:21
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Why not?
01:08:22
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Yeah.
01:08:22
Speaker
So what year would be 2062?
01:08:24
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Yeah.
01:08:26
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What restaurant would win the restaurant wars?
01:08:29
Speaker
Chick-fil-A?
01:08:30
Speaker
I was going to say Chick-fil-A.
01:08:31
Speaker
God bless.
01:08:33
Speaker
Whoever pays the most for the product placement is who's going to win.
01:08:36
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Have a joy, joy day.
01:08:38
Speaker
Movie or TV show?
01:08:39
Speaker
I feel like movie for sure.
01:08:40
Speaker
It's got to be a movie.
01:08:41
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Yeah, yeah.
01:08:41
Speaker
Who plays the lead?
01:08:42
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I mean, I guess I'm not going to try and recast this because I think we're going to make a sequel to it.
01:08:45
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It's going to be the same people.
01:08:47
Speaker
I don't want it to be the same people.
01:08:48
Speaker
Oh, do you have some recasting?
01:08:49
Speaker
Who do you got?
01:08:50
Speaker
I want a prequel.
01:08:51
Speaker
No, I'm just saying I want a prequel.
01:08:52
Speaker
I don't really have any.
01:08:54
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I don't have any people.
01:08:55
Speaker
I think a prequel would be awesome.
01:08:56
Speaker
I'm trying to think who you could put in it.
01:08:59
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I want, who's the guy from Walking Dead?
01:09:02
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John Bernthal.
01:09:06
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I want him playing Sylvester Stallone.
01:09:08
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I don't know why.
01:09:09
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He's got the dark hair and he's kind of ripped.
01:09:12
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And I just like the way he could be that guy.
01:09:16
Speaker
He could be John Spartan.
01:09:17
Speaker
But who do you get to play Simon Phoenix?
01:09:19
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Like every time I look up people, I'm always like, Oh cool.
01:09:22
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Maybe I'll pick a freaking crazy black dude.
01:09:25
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That's awesome at karate.
01:09:26
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I'm like, do they even make those anymore?
01:09:28
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That's what I'm saying.
01:09:29
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There's like no action stars anymore.
01:09:31
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Cause the, all the action movies are superhero movies and there's no like karate in those.
01:09:35
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Everyone just has superpowers.
01:09:36
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So it's like, I don't know.
01:09:38
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I want a, who's crazy.
01:09:39
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Uh, and about the right age.
01:09:42
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I think we need to get some unknown.
01:09:43
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I want Shia LaBeouf.
01:09:44
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Well, we need to get some unknown guy from like Bollywood or from like, you know, those, the action movies they make that you see on Reddit sometimes where it's like from Nigeria.
01:09:51
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And it's like, guys are like getting launched out of palm trees.
01:09:54
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Like we need someone from another country that's doing some wild action stuff to be in this.
01:09:57
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Yeah.
01:09:58
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Some Ong Bak type Thailand stuff.
01:10:02
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I want the doctor instead of to be Raymond.
01:10:06
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Wasn't it Raymond Cocteau?
01:10:08
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Yeah.
01:10:08
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I want it to be Ramona.
01:10:10
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Can I be a woman?
01:10:11
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Yeah.
01:10:12
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I want it to be a woman and I want it to be played by Emma Thompson with her British accent.
01:10:18
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Yeah.
01:10:19
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She could totally be, I feel like I could see her being evil.
01:10:22
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Yeah.
01:10:23
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She could be cold and evil.
01:10:24
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I think.
01:10:24
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Yeah.
01:10:24
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Yeah.
01:10:25
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I like that.
01:10:26
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I feel like Sandra Bullock, that'd be an easier part to recast.
01:10:28
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She's probably, well, Selena Gomez is maybe a little bit older than Sandra Bullock was in this movie, but I think she'd be really good in that role.
01:10:34
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I want, um, cause she's kind of cranky.
01:10:37
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So you could update a little bit.
01:10:38
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It's like, she's not so bubbly.
01:10:39
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She's a little crankier.
01:10:40
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Yeah.
01:10:41
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Yeah, because people nowadays are more cranky.
01:10:43
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Yeah, totally.
01:10:44
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I think if I'm going to recast her, I always try to go with a person that's...
01:10:49
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Who's the chick from Nope?
01:10:52
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Palmer.
01:10:53
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Kiki Palmer.
01:10:54
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Yeah.
01:10:55
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Oh, yeah.
01:10:55
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She'd be awesome.
01:10:56
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I want her in there.
01:10:57
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Did anybody write those down?
01:10:58
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I should have wrote those down.
01:10:59
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It's all recorded.
01:11:00
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We can go back to it.
01:11:01
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Nice.
01:11:02
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Can you still watch and enjoy
Entertainment Value and Streaming Availability
01:11:03
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this in 2023?
01:11:03
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Dude, absolutely.
01:11:04
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It's fantastic.
01:11:06
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I had a blast.
01:11:06
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It's super fun.
01:11:07
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The only... The bummer is it's not on Disney+.
01:11:08
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It's not on Max.
01:11:09
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It's not on Netflix.
01:11:10
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You have to go and, like, rent it somewhere.
01:11:12
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That's the... Or watch it on Tubi.
01:11:14
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And, dude, it was like... It was like every 15 minutes there was an ad for...
01:11:19
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My psoriasis.
01:11:20
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That's my psoriasis that I apparently have.
01:11:25
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Are you an American between the ages of zero and 129?
01:11:28
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If so, you have been wronged.
01:11:30
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Yeah.
01:11:30
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Yeah.
01:11:31
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So you can rent it for like three bucks.
01:11:32
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Like I did on Google, or you can watch it on to be with commercials like Jeff did.
01:11:35
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Yeah.
01:11:36
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Yeah.
01:11:36
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Do the, do the thing.
01:11:38
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Our next movie is Dave.
01:11:39
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Dave.
01:11:39
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We'll do major league on Patreon.
01:11:41
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That'll be coming out a week after this.
01:11:43
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I'll be back with Dave, Kevin Klein, Sigourney Weaver.
01:11:46
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Dude, I love Dave.
01:11:51
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I also like Dave and Sigourney Wiener.
01:11:56
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Oh, great.
01:11:57
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No, that's never not going to be her name.
01:12:00
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Take us down.
01:12:01
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You're flying the plane, sir.
01:12:02
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Excellent.
01:12:03
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Excellent.
01:12:04
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Yeah, dude.
01:12:05
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It's good stuff.
01:12:05
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Tell all your friends.
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