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Scorsese, De Niro, Pesci, Sharon Stone, Las Vegas + Mafia. If you like these things and have LOTS of time to spare, this is the movie for you! Stone gets an Oscar nod for this role, the soundtrack is incredible, the outfits are next level, and yet still I'm not sure about it.
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Transcript
Introduction to Movie Life Crisis
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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis.
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Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.
Recap of 'Casino' Trailer and Key Themes
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Ace ran the casino.
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I am the boss.
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Nicky ran the money.
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I'm trying to make a living, that's all.
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They shared a dream called Las Vegas.
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Look at this place, it's made of money.
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That was just too good to last.
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You didn't see that you were being set up.
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Robert De Niro.
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You buried me.
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I buried you.
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Sharon Stone.
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Kill him.
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Joe Pesci.
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This guy 35 years, I'm gonna whack him for you.
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A Martin Scorsese film, Casino Bittered R. Now playing at theaters everywhere.
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Huh.
Soundtrack and Character Dynamics
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I don't think I watched the same movie.
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Dude, I will say the trailer made me remember that the soundtrack for this movie was fantastic.
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Of course, when your movies have like a six day run time, you can get a lot of good songs in there.
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But yeah.
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Not surprisingly, the soundtrack is a double disc because this was three hours long.
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Yeah, no, it was a good soundtrack.
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That trailer made it sound like they really did work together.
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But as I watched it, I didn't feel like they were actually working together.
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Oh, you mean De Niro and Joe Pesci's characters?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I know they were friends, but they had like completely different mafia jobs, but then they kept like getting each other's way.
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Right.
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That's why it was weird that they were like, together, they're going to take down Casino.
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Yeah.
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And I kind of regret that we didn't start the podcast in 1990 because I think if we had, we would have done Goodfellas.
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We did some 90 movies for Patreon, but we didn't get that many done.
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Right.
Joe Pesci's Iconic Portrayals
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And I was reading a lot of stuff where it's like, Joe Pesci's playing the same guys in Goodfellas.
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Like, damn it.
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I wish I would have seen that recently so I could tell if that's the truth.
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Can he play the same guy as he does in My Cousin Vinny?
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Because that's who I really want him to be.
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I know, man.
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Or even Home Alone.
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Oh, God.
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I think he was using the same hairpiece as he was in My Cousin Vinny.
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He's got herpes?
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Hairpiece, hairpiece.
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His freaking piece was ridiculous.
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I was like, he probably got brain cancer from the amount of glue they had to use to keep that thing on his head.
Scorsese and Mob Film Legacy
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Movie Life Crisis Season 5, Episode 21, the Martin Scorsese epic casino.
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Is it an epic?
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I just mean in length.
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Oh, right.
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Three hours long.
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We were just complaining about this before we got on.
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We both, like, Scorsese's great.
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Everyone loves Scorsese.
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Fine, whatever.
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But first of all, two-thirds of his movies are about the mob, and I don't have that much interest in the mob.
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I have, like, a 10% interest in the mob.
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And then almost all of them run three hours.
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Dude, I like it.
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I actually, like, the first hour of this movie, I was super into the, like...
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how the mafia
Mafia and Las Vegas History
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started and then ran Vegas, especially in the like 1930s through like 1980s.
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I am fascinated by, I think it's so fricking cool.
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And I'd love to, I've read a bunch of books about that.
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I think it's, I love it.
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Right.
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Uh, but then I was like, Oh shit, we got two hours to go still.
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Damn it.
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Uh, we're going to take a deep dive into that.
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No, we're really not.
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We're going to repeat the same thing.
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Take it up a notch.
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I got stuff to do.
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I got a family.
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Yeah.
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I kept thinking like, boy, this is more like...
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Like the craftsmanship, undeniable.
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I get why Martin Scorsese is a great director, but it just seems more admirable than it is enjoyable for the whole... People are going to hate on us because, you know, people feel a certain way about this movie and these type of movies.
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I don't want my Prius to blow up when I turn it on tomorrow morning, but, you know, it was too long for me.
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I got stuff I got to do.
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I think everybody who really likes this podcast understands that me and you love Bye Bye Love, which no one's ever heard of, and you cannot find anywhere in a casino.
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We're like, yeah, it was fine.
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It was a little long.
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I think that's on brand.
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That's exactly where we're at.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, dude, it was good.
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It's great.
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I mean, in 95, when I had Time to Kill, I probably liked it a lot more.
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But I don't know that I watched it back in the day.
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I have no recollection of it.
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I definitely didn't remember this movie.
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There was a couple
Personal Encounters with 'Casino'
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of lines that I heard in Jay-Z songs because in the late 90s, all of those guys thought they were gangsters and they thought they were all mobsters and stuff like that.
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But, you know, other than that, I didn't see it either.
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I didn't.
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I'm not even 10% into the mob.
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I don't get it.
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Yeah, man, I don't know.
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I was glad we did it for the podcast because I don't remember seeing it.
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It was a huge movie in 95, and it's got great people.
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And I think in 95, I was just like, a bunch of old people with weird hair?
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I don't want to watch that.
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And now I'm like, dude, I've never seen this.
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I like all the people in it.
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I'm kind of interested, and I'm glad that we did it.
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I probably will never watch it again.
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I can't imagine.
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I don't think I would.
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I'd be like, dude, you know, we should watch Casino.
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You want to come over?
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I'm not going to.
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i'll ask off work dude do you want to watch casino
Themes of Greed and Moral Ambiguity
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or do you want to watch back to the future one and two or star wars episodes four and five like right you pick right right no i dude you're preaching to the choir on this one yeah i'm i'm with you and i like all the guys too i just don't the mob bosses mob stuff doesn't do it for me
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It does do it for me, but it was more than I needed.
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But anyway, let's a lot of it.
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It sure was a lot of it.
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Did give us a synopsis.
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All right.
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A mob, a mob runs Vegas empire built on greed and control inevitably eats itself alive.
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So it's built on, on greed and control.
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But by the way, who was I supposed to be pulling for in this movie?
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I don't think there was a... I mean, I guess I'm supposed to pull for Robert De Niro because he's the narrator.
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He's doing the voiceover.
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The movie starts... First of all, it was an amazing open.
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The freaking title scene is his car blowing up and De Niro flying past you in the explosion.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, holy shit, that was awesome.
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So I guess him, but it's not like he's a nice guy or a good guy.
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Right.
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But I mean, Drake and Scorsese.
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Yeah.
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I mean, are there.
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Who am I pulling for in the Wolf of Wall Street?
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I don't know.
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Capitalism.
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Yeah.
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If so, Jonah Hill's dental implants.
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Yeah, I'm not.
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Right.
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Yeah, that seems to be a running theme in Scorsese movies.
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It definitely does.
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$40 million budget, $116 million gross.
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That's all right.
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So that puts it in the kind of top 20.
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I was trying to find the list, but for whatever reason, I can't find my freaking list of 95 top box office.
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I mean, triples the budget, which gets you to profitability.
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It's not hugely profitable, probably because...
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Like a weird thing that you don't really think about if you watch movies like a regular person is the longer the movie is, the fewer showtimes a theater can do in a single day.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So there's a reason why movies are all the same length.
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There's a couple of reasons.
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One's like people don't want to sit there for three hours.
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The other reason is you can't show as many movies.
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Right.
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You can't get as many showings in.
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So I'm sure that the studio is like, hey, Marty, if we cut this thing down to two hours, we can get freaking four screenings a night instead of three.
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That's more money.
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And he's like, God, nuts to you.
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Right.
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I'm not doing that.
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By the way, Casino's number 44, just above Tu Wong Fu.
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Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar.
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Which is the best movie title of my lifetime.
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Because
Box Office and Length Challenges
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it didn't need to be that long.
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And plus, freaking Wesley Snipes in drag.
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Yeah.
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It's under Just Cause with...
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A Harvard professor, Sean Connery.
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Sean Connery's in that.
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I don't remember that.
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I don't either.
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It's too ahead of a goofy movie, and I'll watch a goofy movie twice before I watch this shit again.
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Absolutely.
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I was trying to show a wolf that, because he's all about the Mickey Mouse people, but there's not.
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And he's like, where's Mickey?
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Where's Minnie?
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I was like, just hold on a second.
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Tevin Campbell's about to sing.
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It's going to be amazing.
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He's like, I don't care about that.
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I like me some power line.
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This thing won or was nominated for a bunch of awards.
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Yeah, Academy Awards.
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Sharon Stone was nominated for Best Actress.
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Golden Globes, she won Best Actress.
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I thought she did a great job.
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I really, like I liked how she played this.
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It was freaking crazy.
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Yeah, I went on a journey with her in this movie at first.
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I was like, man, I just really don't like Sharon Stone that much.
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And then like two hours in, I was like, I think I just don't like this character.
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And maybe she's actually doing a really good job of playing someone who's a freaking strung out, a hot mess.
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Yeah, I think that's what it is.
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Yeah, this is the second Sharon Stone movie this year.
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That seems like two more than we really need to do.
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Now we know.
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And knowing, half the battle.
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Best villain, by the way, nominated MTV Movie Awards was Joe Pesci.
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So he was the bad guy, if you were wondering.
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He was definitely a bad guy.
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That's what I was going to say.
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The mob, so they're kind of all...
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They're all bad guys.
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The weird thing to me was that he's based on a... So the whole thing's based on a real story.
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Like the guy who wrote the screenplay with Martin Scorsese, Nicholas Pelleggi, wrote a book called Casino, and it was about these real-life people.
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The three of them, De Niro, Joe Pesci, and Sharon Stone, are based on real people who all have different names, but it's very similar to their actual lives.
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And I was trying to figure out...
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Because obviously Joe Pesci is fun-sized.
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Like, does he... How tall is the guy that he was based on?
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And I couldn't... His name's Tony Spolotro.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm like, how's a guy 5'2", a mob enforcer who's like...
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He's like, how about a counteroffer?
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I kick your ass.
00:10:24
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Oh, a counteroffer.
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I could use a good ass kick and I'd be perfectly frank with you.
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Like, how's the guy that's five foot two, like just beating the shit out of everybody?
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And I can't tell.
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I got a motion of the guy, but he doesn't look very tall, but I couldn't get his up.
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He's not.
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He is a five foot two inches.
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All right.
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So that's freaking spot on perfect casting.
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Yeah.
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So he picked him perfectly.
Real-Life Mob Stories and Violence
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Yeah.
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Nailed it.
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By the way, that guy, Tony the Ant, is his nickname?
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Yeah.
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He died of blunt force trauma.
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Yeah.
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He died of being hit in the head with a baseball bat and buried in a hole.
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That shit happened exactly like in the movie, including his brother was there also.
00:11:03
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When I was reading, because I read about all three of the real characters, I was like, this movie was actually a lot like what happened for real.
00:11:08
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I like that more knowing that.
00:11:11
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I like it, but man, that's terrifying.
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People are really like this.
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I kind of want my, I want it to be a little more fantasy.
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So when I turn it off, I can go like, well, at least that's not real life.
00:11:22
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The cool thing is neither of us are eligible to join the mob as made men because we don't have Italian descent through our father's side.
00:11:29
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Yeah, sure.
00:11:31
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Plus a whole lot of other reasons, but mainly that one.
00:11:35
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When you said made, all I can think of is Vince Vaughn.
00:11:38
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You lost my carpet cleaning van and I don't like you.
00:11:43
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Who do I give this to?
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Who do I give this to?
00:11:46
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Who do I give this per diem to?
00:11:48
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I know, but who do I give it?
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No, this is mine.
00:11:50
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Cardiff Giants?
00:11:51
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Cardiff Giants?
00:11:52
Speaker
You let fucking Screech in the club, but not me?
00:11:54
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Is this what we're doing?
00:11:58
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You could watch Made a couple times.
00:12:00
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You could watch Swingers and then Made in the time you could watch this movie.
00:12:03
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Yeah, both better uses of your time.
00:12:06
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Dude, people are getting hand cramps typing comments about how stupid we are right now.
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I don't care.
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You know what?
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Now that I've seen Scorsese's eyebrows, I would just swap him out for Eugene Levy and his eyebrows and have him direct this.
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That's where I'm at.
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Sequels and spinoffs?
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No.
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No.
00:12:27
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This is the unofficial cousin of Goodfellas, though, because everybody said this is just Goodfellas in the desert.
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Everybody said this is, yeah, it's basically Goodfellas part two.
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Yeah.
00:12:36
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And it's, yeah.
00:12:39
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So, and do you remember when and where you first saw this?
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I actually think this is the first time I saw this.
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This is definitely my first time.
00:12:45
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I mean, I've seen clips like the part with the pen I've seen before.
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I want to say the explosion in the car I've seen before.
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And I've definitely seen like pictures of De Niro and all his bright salmon shirts with pink jackets and all those 70s suits.
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But like, I've never seen the movie.
00:13:06
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So this is my
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I knew I hadn't seen it.
00:13:08
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I was like, I don't remember, but maybe I saw it.
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I knew I hadn't seen it when the movie started.
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And I was like, why are the clothes so weird?
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It took me like 15 minutes to figure out, oh, this is in the sixties.
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And then the seventies.
00:13:19
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And then the eighties is like, all right, now I get it.
00:13:20
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Now we're, now I'm with you.
00:13:22
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We're all tracking.
00:13:22
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But yeah, this is, we don't usually, usually podcast movies are like, dude, remember we saw this when we were kids.
00:13:28
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It was like, I actually am kind of every once in a while.
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I'm like, I want to go back and see one I didn't see back in the day.
00:13:32
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Yeah.
00:13:33
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I, and dude, I don't think you should watch this as a kid.
00:13:37
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Yeah, well, true.
00:13:39
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I mean, at the time, this is we're like 15 and 16, 15, 17.
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Yeah.
00:13:42
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This thing, by the way, was going to get an NC-17 rating just from the amount of like blood and explosions and people's heads getting clamped in vices and F-words and cigarettes.
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Here's the thing, though.
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And they had to change some stuff up.
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I really am okay with that.
00:13:57
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Like, I don't, I'm not, that's not the only thing I like in it, but like if people are going to get killed or like somebody gets hit in the head, I'm like, all right, that's fine.
00:14:06
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I watched a nobody too.
00:14:09
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Yeah.
00:14:09
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With, uh, Odenkirk.
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There's tons of blood and people getting beat up and it's fine because it's, because it's funny.
00:14:15
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Not this, this is not, it's not the same kind of.
00:14:18
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Isn't Sharon Stone in nobody too?
00:14:21
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Isn't she the villain?
00:14:22
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Uh, is that who that was?
00:14:24
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Yeah.
00:14:24
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Now that you say that, I think it was.
00:14:26
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Yeah, it was.
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Circular.
00:14:28
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Dude, this, uh, I was actually like, I don't like a lot of, I don't like a lot of blood and guts.
00:14:33
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Like freaking Joe Pesci had the guy's head in the vice and his eye was literally popping out.
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I was like covered.
00:14:38
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I was like, just, I guess no one's here to tell me when this is done.
00:14:41
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I'll just wait.
00:14:41
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I'll just listen to the sound.
00:14:43
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Yeah.
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But that's the thing.
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Like, that's too realistic.
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I don't know.
00:14:49
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Like, that's why the Saw movies are not good for me.
00:14:53
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Yeah, I'm not into Blood and Guts.
00:14:54
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I'm not into gory stuff.
00:14:57
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Well, cool.
00:14:58
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So we're both coming to this fresh.
00:14:59
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We have zero nostalgia.
00:15:00
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So how'd you rate it?
00:15:02
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One to ten.
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No sevens.
00:15:05
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I didn't give it a nostalgia bump, like you said.
00:15:09
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She was way too long.
00:15:11
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Seemed pretty repetitive.
00:15:16
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I get why I'm supposed to like it on the technical side, but I give it a five and a half.
00:15:22
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Yeah.
00:15:24
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Like, I just, I don't, I don't know.
00:15:29
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Dude, there's a lot that I liked about it.
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I liked the interplay of the three leads, Joe Pesci, Robert De Niro, and Sharon Stone.
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I liked that they're based on real people.
00:15:37
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I love seeing Vegas in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and all the kind of gang stuff.
00:15:44
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They find a front man, Kevin Pollack, and then they get a loan from the Teamsters pension fund, but really it's mafia run, and then they stick Ace in there, Robert De Niro, to run.
00:15:53
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I freaking love that stuff.
00:15:56
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But when I saw Runtime, 179 minutes, I was like,
00:15:58
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No, I don't like that.
00:16:00
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No.
00:16:02
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It's just going to take me all week.
00:16:05
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Ah, just in shifts.
00:16:07
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And there are long movies that I like, like Avatar and Gone with the Wind.
00:16:11
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I've never seen Gone with the Wind, Ten Commandments.
00:16:13
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Don't like that.
00:16:14
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No, I mean, there are long movies that I like, mainly James Cameron.
00:16:17
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Lord of the Rings.
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Lord of the Rings.
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Titanic.
00:16:21
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Yeah, I was... Dude, it's also... The pacing of it felt weird.
00:16:25
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Like I said, the first hour I was super in, I loved it.
00:16:27
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I was like, this movie's pretty freaking great.
00:16:29
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Yeah.
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And then there were two more hours.
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But it felt like a kind of stream of consciousness.
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Like there weren't a lot of like...
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There weren't a lot of scene or act breaks that I could really remember.
00:16:39
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I don't know.
00:16:40
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It was weird.
00:16:40
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Did you feel like that?
00:16:41
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Yeah.
00:16:42
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No, it's exactly the perfect way to say it.
00:16:45
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Everything just kept happening.
00:16:46
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I would edit 45 minutes out of this, but I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck was happening that I would take out.
00:16:52
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There was just a million things.
00:16:53
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When you said, oh, I loved it how they had the front man and they got the loan from the Teamsters Union and all the different people in there.
00:17:01
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All I can think of is people that I teach, if they watch this movie and they don't have headshots with people's names from the movie, they're not, they're going to lose.
00:17:10
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They're going to be like, who's that again?
00:17:12
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What that guy say when I said, who's that guy?
00:17:15
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Oh, wait, that, well, I think that's the, I think the verisimilitude that Scorsese loves about like the,
00:17:20
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underboss and then this guy works with these guys and then the family out of Kansas City and how they interact back with Chicago and these guys are the enforcers and I was like dude I get that it's very realistic boring also cut that way down yeah I don't need any of that stuff
00:17:36
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Why didn't Don Rickles talk more?
00:17:39
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Yeah, dude.
00:17:40
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Why didn't Don Rickles talk more?
00:17:41
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What if Joe Pesci just has a Wookiee life debt to frigging Robert De Niro?
00:17:46
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Let's just make it simpler.
00:17:48
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They're just going to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters.
00:17:51
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Let's blow some shit up here.
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So I gave it a 6 out of 10.
00:17:55
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Nice.
00:17:56
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There's a, I gave it a little bump.
00:17:58
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We're going to get hate mail.
00:17:59
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Dude, I downgraded it because it's super long and also not even that fun for being how long it was.
00:18:04
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But then when I was reading about it, I was like, dude, there's, the fact that it was so close to the real story is awesome.
00:18:09
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The fact that they spent like a million dollars on Sharon Stone's outfits, including like recreating stuff that they'd seen pictures of her character wearing.
00:18:16
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Nice.
00:18:17
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Like all of that shit.
00:18:18
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I was like, dude, that's awesome.
00:18:19
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The cinematographers won multiple Academy Awards.
00:18:22
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Yeah.
00:18:22
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Yeah.
00:18:22
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Like Scorsese, De Niro, freaking never was not smoking a cigarette.
00:18:27
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It was like great.
00:18:29
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That was crazy to me.
00:18:31
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Dude, freaking tiny Pete Ginobili, like out there just like smashing heads was like kind of hilarious.
00:18:38
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Yes.
00:18:40
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So, I mean, there's a lot I liked about it.
00:18:42
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I wonder, because you can find anything on the internet, like, could I get a two hour cut of this?
00:18:46
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Can someone make a two hour cut of this movie?
00:18:48
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Is it even possible?
00:18:50
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There's got to be fan edits, right?
00:18:51
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I don't care enough to do it, but I'm just wondering if it is possible.
00:18:55
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Um, I'm sure they have fan edits of it.
00:18:59
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Um,
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There's a fan edit called De-Stoned that it has way less Sharon Stone in it.
00:19:10
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It's 172 minutes regular.
00:19:13
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Fan edit is 100 minutes.
00:19:16
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Got it down to an hour and a half.
00:19:18
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Now we're talking.
00:19:21
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I might be in on that.
00:19:22
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I could be into that.
00:19:24
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Someone tell me how that is.
00:19:26
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Oh man, removed all the major scenes with Lester and Ginger.
00:19:32
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She has no more major dialogue in any of the remaining scenes.
00:19:36
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Yeah.
00:19:36
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I mean, she did a good job and Lester is freaking James Wood and he is awesome.
00:19:40
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But yeah, I could be into that.
00:19:43
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I don't know that I would have just said like, let me lift Sharon Stone out of this movie if I was trying to cut it, but I'm not that upset.
00:19:48
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Right.
00:19:49
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Yeah.
00:19:49
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What's your first best scene?
00:19:51
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Dude, I put the head in the vice scene only because how'd they do that?
00:19:55
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I got that one too.
00:19:56
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I was freaking like, I don't know.
00:19:58
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The guy's like, it's the guy's like your size and Joe Pesci is like dragging him by the throat after like three days of beating on him with baseball bats to try to get the guy to give up whoever he was working with.
00:20:08
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And he's just, he keeps threatening to do it the whole movie.
00:20:10
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And he actually does put the guy's head in a vice and just keeps
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freaking turning the handle until his eyeball pops out.
00:20:15
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Yeah.
00:20:16
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And then he finally gives it up and Joe Pesci's like, that's who you're giving up?
00:20:20
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You waited this long to give up?
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And he was just, he couldn't believe it.
00:20:23
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He was super mad.
00:20:26
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Yeah.
00:20:26
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Freaking Little Nicky is ruthless with the violence.
00:20:30
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I put it in there just because I don't know how they did it.
00:20:32
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I thought it was awesome.
00:20:35
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That one's in there for me as well.
00:20:37
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And I hated it as much as I loved it.
00:20:38
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I, I, cause that's one that like, I'll never forget that that happened in this movie.
00:20:43
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Right.
00:20:44
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Um, that's, that was like freaking the alien exploding out of the freaking chest or like the third, the third tit in total recall.
00:20:51
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Like I'll always remember that.
00:20:53
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She's got a third nipple.
00:20:55
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It's just clear.
00:20:59
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Fuck us.
00:21:01
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That's what I was thinking.
00:21:04
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My first scene is when Ace, Robert De Niro, he's running the Tangiers Casino, even though he doesn't have a gambling license.
00:21:10
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He's just a freaking great odds maker, and the mafia puts him in charge of the casino, even though he's not a part of the mafia.
00:21:17
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He's just good at making them money.
00:21:19
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And one of the people that works for him is the freaking county commissioner's nephew, and he's a totally incompetent jackass.
00:21:26
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Yeah.
00:21:27
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And somebody ripped off the slot machines while he was watching and De Niro is so pissed off that he fires the guy.
00:21:33
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And everyone's been telling him that he can't fire him because he's like, oh, he's a politician's nephew.
00:21:36
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You can't just, that's not how it works.
00:21:38
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And the freaking county commissioner who's just like, dude, who was that guy?
00:21:43
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Damn it, I can't remember his name.
00:21:45
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No, I know who you're talking about.
00:21:46
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He had the bolo tie and the huge freaking hat.
00:21:49
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Yeah.
00:21:51
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Dang it.
00:21:52
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I can't remember the actor's name, but he looks like a freaking cowboy.
00:21:58
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But he's just like, hey, I need you to just hire him back.
00:22:02
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He's like, you know, we look the other way.
00:22:05
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We do a lot of stuff for you.
00:22:06
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And dude in De Niro is just sitting there.
00:22:08
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He's wearing a freaking smoking jacket and slippers in his office.
00:22:11
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He's wearing a freaking...
00:22:12
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powder blue freaking bell-bottom polyester suit and he doesn't have the uh he doesn't have the pants on and he has to go over and put the pants on yes jiggle his foot to get it through this and he pulls the pants on over his shoes because they're freaking bell-bottoms and he's sitting there just smoking a cigarette he's like i can't do that and the guy's like well maybe there's somewhere else that he could be like away from the floor and he's like i can't do that
00:22:35
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He's an idiot.
00:22:37
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He's like, he's, he's either, he's either internet or he's, or he's too stupid to work here.
00:22:42
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Right.
00:22:42
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And the commissioner goes like, Hey, like, I don't know what to tell you.
00:22:45
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You're exactly right.
00:22:46
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He's incompetent and he's a screw up, but also could you just give him a job?
00:22:50
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Right.
00:22:50
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And like De Niro knows that this guy can completely screw over the casino.
00:22:55
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And he's like, nah, can't do it.
00:22:57
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Just standing.
00:22:57
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That's the hill he dies on.
00:22:58
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I don't, why not just give him a broom to sweep something?
00:23:03
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude.
00:23:05
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Put him back on the fryer.
00:23:06
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Like, just give him the worst job until he quits.
00:23:09
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Right, exactly.
00:23:11
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Exactly.
00:23:15
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Yeah, I like that, the cowboy guy.
00:23:18
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I wish I could also remember his name.
00:23:20
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The guy who played his nephew with the bolo tie and just was super apologetic, and he was also very dumb.
00:23:27
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He did a great job, too, at pretending to be like that.
00:23:30
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Yeah.
00:23:33
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I thought everybody did a great job.
00:23:34
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It was just too much job.
00:23:36
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Everybody.
00:23:36
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Too much is a great job.
00:23:38
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Everybody did a great job.
00:23:41
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First of all, the reason that he wasn't wearing pants in that scene is because the person he's based on, his name was Frank Rosenthal, was really OCD about always having his pants and not have any wrinkles.
00:23:55
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So that's why in that scene he's in there in his freaking drawers.
00:23:59
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Pfft.
00:24:00
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And he's like, just tell him one minute.
00:24:01
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And he goes to the closet and he's like stepping into his pants.
00:24:03
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It's because the actual character wanted his shit to be crisp all the time.
00:24:07
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Rocking the khakis with a cuff in the crease.
00:24:10
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Jeez.
00:24:12
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That's a lot of work for not that much comeback.
00:24:15
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Like, I don't care about wrinkles.
00:24:18
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Dude.
00:24:18
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I don't run a casino, so...
00:24:22
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Don't ask me.
00:24:23
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I, in general, don't want to be wearing pants if I don't have to, but it's not because I care about wrinkles.
00:24:28
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It's because pants are stupid.
00:24:31
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But dude, again, shout out Scorsese to just go like, yeah, just frigging, just put on your pants as part of the scene because the real guy didn't like his pants to be wrinkled.
00:24:40
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Yeah, that's crazy.
00:24:42
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So yeah, so that's my second one.
00:24:42
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What's your second one?
00:24:44
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My second one is get your feet off the table.
00:24:47
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Like Ace is trying to manage the casino and he's going to deal with a stupid cowboy who's got his shoes off and his feet up on the table.
00:24:56
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Yeah.
00:24:56
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And he sends Don Rickles over there, Mr. Potato Head, to go tell him something.
00:25:01
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And he comes back and he's like, yeah, he's not budging.
00:25:05
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and he goes over there and talks to the guy, tries the nice way, and he doesn't do it, and he ends up using his head to open the door with the... He gets his goons to come and take him out.
00:25:18
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And then it ends up being Joe Pesci's...
00:25:21
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boy or whatever um and then he gets beat up again by joe pesci after joe pesci finds out that he took his shoes off and put them up on the table um yeah dude he gets he doesn't joe pesci doesn't beat him up because he had his feet on the table he's upset about that but he beats him up because he was calling de niro names right uh when he when he wouldn't leave and he's and freaking joe pesci's just like hitting him in the head with the phone yeah
00:25:51
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And this dude is like six foot four.
00:25:53
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Way bigger.
00:25:55
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Pesci's like climbing up on a table to hit him over the head.
00:25:58
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Just diving at him with a sock full of nickels.
00:26:03
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Dude, well, the thing I liked about De Niro, about Ace in this movie, is that he is like a freaking cold-blooded sociopath, and he never raises his hand to anybody.
00:26:14
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He's just like smoking a cigarette.
00:26:15
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He's like, take that guy and smash his head through the door and then throw him out on the street.
00:26:19
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Yeah.
00:26:20
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And like he goes into the back room.
00:26:21
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Remember when the guys are counting cards?
00:26:23
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Oh yeah.
00:26:24
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And like signal each other.
00:26:24
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He goes in the back room and he like asks the guys, he asks him, he's like, which hand is you right handed?
00:26:28
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And I have the guys like stretched out.
00:26:30
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His hands are on the table.
00:26:31
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Yeah.
00:26:32
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And the guy's like, yeah, I'm right in.
00:26:33
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And he just, and De Niro just like gives a guy a head nod.
00:26:35
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He fricking smashes a guy's hand with a hammer.
00:26:38
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oh Christ no and then they bring his partner in and his buddy's like freaking hands all smashed up and De Niro just tells his partner and the guy's like I'm so sorry I made a bad mistake and he's like he's like you can leave with a hundred thousand dollars but you get the hammer or you can walk out with nothing and both hands he's like both hands both hands both hands yeah
00:26:59
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I was like, God, I don't want to cheat at cards.
00:27:01
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I don't want to deal with Robert De Niro or Joe Pesci or the mob.
00:27:06
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I'm not good with any of this.
00:27:08
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Yeah, well, you live in the wrong place if you don't want to deal with the mob because there's freaking Italians all over that bitch.
00:27:14
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I just don't go eat it.
00:27:15
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I don't know.
00:27:16
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S and S, wherever.
00:27:17
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I don't know where.
00:27:18
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Wherever the mom hangs out.
00:27:19
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I'm Italian.
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I should probably know that, but I'm from the, it's from my mother's.
00:27:23
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Murphy's dude.
00:27:26
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By the way, the black book that, uh, Nikki got into for being like, they banned it from all the casinos.
00:27:31
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Yeah.
00:27:32
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That's a real thing.
00:27:34
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And it's public record.
00:27:35
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You can click on it right now and read who the people are that are banned from every casino in Nevada.
00:27:39
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Yeah.
00:27:40
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That's crazy.
00:27:41
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Yeah.
00:27:41
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Joe Pesci, the person who are on it right now.
00:27:44
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How many?
00:27:46
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37.
00:27:47
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Nice.
00:27:48
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Joe Pesci got kicked out and got the actor Joe Pesci got kicked out and said, we're going to ban you from this casino.
00:27:57
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We're going to put your name in the book.
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And he was like, that's when I learned about that.
00:28:00
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Yeah.
00:28:01
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That's a real thing.
00:28:02
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It's a public record.
00:28:03
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You can click on it and see the pictures of the people.
00:28:05
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There's fewer people in that book than there are who have been president of America.
00:28:08
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It's ridiculous.
00:28:09
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That's crazy.
00:28:10
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Yeah.
00:28:10
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Yeah.
00:28:11
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Got to do a lot.
00:28:12
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Normally they just crush your hand and make it look like it got caught in a cotton chain.
00:28:17
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They hit you with a sack full of nickels or with a rubber hose or with a phone book.
00:28:21
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And then if you do it again, then they put you in a hole out of the desert.
00:28:25
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Yeah.
00:28:25
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I don't want that either.
00:28:26
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Yeah.
00:28:28
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I don't even like Vegas.
00:28:29
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I like... Dude, you and I have been to Vegas together.
00:28:32
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It's like worse buffets than the frigging Bay St.
00:28:35
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Louis, and I don't like to gamble.
00:28:38
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Dude, when Kat and I went there the whole time, I mean, the highlight was obviously the Bacchanal Buffet.
00:28:44
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And when we got to the front, they were like, I said, two buffets.
00:28:47
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And the lady was like, would you like a bucket of beer or maybe some champagne?
00:28:50
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I was like, no, ma'am, just two buffets.
00:28:52
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She's like, all right, that'll be $163.80.
00:28:53
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And I was like, I'm sorry, what did you just say?
00:28:57
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Dude, it's a huge buffet.
00:28:59
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And we sat there for like two hours because we were waiting for boys to mend.
00:29:03
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Everything other than what I just said was god awful.
00:29:07
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And people were like, you don't like Vegas?
00:29:09
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You could drink on the street here.
00:29:10
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I was like, yeah, we're from New Orleans.
00:29:11
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Yeah, but they got food everywhere.
00:29:13
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Yeah, we're from New Orleans.
00:29:15
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No, no, no.
00:29:15
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They have like live music and stuff too.
00:29:18
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Yeah.
00:29:19
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It's like a less humid, more hot New Orleans.
00:29:24
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It's god-awful.
00:29:25
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It's not for you.
00:29:26
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Yeah, I would think the last time I went was probably in the like... It was like 15 years ago at least, maybe more.
00:29:32
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And I was with buddies of mine from college.
00:29:35
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And then we went to one of the buffets.
00:29:36
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It was the same situation.
00:29:36
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But we went to like the brunch.
00:29:39
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And even the brunch was like, I don't know, 40 bucks.
00:29:41
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But the cool thing is...
00:29:43
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They don't make you leave.
00:29:44
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They don't.
00:29:45
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We sat there for a while.
00:29:46
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We sat there for like three and a half, four hours.
00:29:48
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We went through like it was brunch and then it was lunch.
00:29:51
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And I think they were moving into after lunch before we ever finally left.
00:29:54
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And I was like, well, dude, I definitely ate $38 worth of food, but it didn't seem like it was worth it because now the rest of my week is ruined.
00:30:02
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Well, that sounds like us big time because Kat was at a convention.
00:30:05
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That's why we were there.
00:30:07
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So I'm talking to people as I'm walking around.
00:30:09
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I'm like, where's a good restaurant?
00:30:10
Speaker
Oh, have you tried this Mexican restaurant?
00:30:12
Speaker
You're going to love it.
00:30:13
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, cool.
00:30:14
Speaker
So we get an Uber.
00:30:14
Speaker
We get in the car.
00:30:15
Speaker
We're driving for a really long time away from the strip.
00:30:18
Speaker
We get to this place and the outside of the building is neon everything.
00:30:25
Speaker
And it is a strip club that shares a building with a Mexican restaurant.
00:30:29
Speaker
Kat was like, absolutely not.
00:30:31
Speaker
So we didn't even get to try it.
00:30:33
Speaker
But everybody said it was really good.
00:30:35
Speaker
And I really wish I could have tried it.
Las Vegas Experiences
00:30:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:38
Speaker
Just eat there for the articles.
00:30:39
Speaker
For the articles.
00:30:42
Speaker
I was just about to say the articles.
00:30:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:45
Speaker
I mean, I don't care.
00:30:46
Speaker
I think Vegas is fascinating as a town that shouldn't exist and was built so that people can give their money to free first crime families and now corporations.
00:30:54
Speaker
I don't care.
00:30:55
Speaker
I've been there 15 times.
00:30:56
Speaker
I don't need to ever go again.
00:30:58
Speaker
but it's yeah it's too warm for me it's a dry heat though it's a dry heat yeah dude i played a pickup basketball one summer in vegas it was like 118 in the shade i was like hey this is great uh this was before you could get ivs just like regular people just yeah yeah anyway my third scene is the i couldn't figure out i think i'm gonna do the last the last scene voiceover so for it's like
00:31:23
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The scam is unraveling.
00:31:25
Speaker
They're skimming money.
00:31:26
Speaker
The mafia is skimming money from the casinos.
00:31:28
Speaker
In real life, Robert De Niro's character, his name is Lefty and not Ace, is running four casinos, and they're skimming money back for the Chicago crime family.
00:31:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:38
Speaker
And it gets uncovered because the FBI is wiretapping some knucklehead, and he just dumps the whole thing out.
00:31:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:44
Speaker
And then the mafia just starts, in true mafia fashion, killing everybody.
00:31:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:49
Speaker
And and they tried to blow up Robert De Niro's character, except because he was in some kind of freaking Cadillac El Dorado that had a plate mounted under the driver's seat that General Motors had done to balance the weight distribution of the car.
00:32:04
Speaker
Nice.
00:32:04
Speaker
It blew up, but he didn't die.
00:32:06
Speaker
And so then in the mob was like, we never sanction blowing him up.
00:32:09
Speaker
That guy makes us a lot of money.
00:32:11
Speaker
But so Robert De Niro is doing the voiceover.
00:32:13
Speaker
His car's blowing up.
00:32:14
Speaker
I'm seeing that and I'm hearing him do the voiceover.
00:32:16
Speaker
And then right after that, he's talking about how Vegas stopped being in it.
00:32:20
Speaker
Like they demolished all the old casinos and they built a bunch of new ones.
00:32:24
Speaker
And now they're all owned by corporations instead of owned by the mob.
00:32:27
Speaker
And he's just talking about how his Vegas from the 60s, 70s, and 80s became the modern Vegas.
Narratives on Vegas Transformation
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:32
Speaker
And I was like, that whole scene, if I can count that voiceover car explosion and like the freaking transition of how Vegas is now, that is awesome.
00:32:40
Speaker
Yeah, it was cool.
00:32:42
Speaker
I would watch that 10 minutes again.
00:32:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:44
Speaker
And when they were showing the pyramid, whatever one that one is, the MGM.
00:32:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:50
Speaker
And the MGM with the big lion, and they showed that.
00:32:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:54
Speaker
Yeah, that part was cool.
00:32:56
Speaker
I didn't know what to put for my third scene.
00:32:58
Speaker
The whole time, I was just like, well...
00:33:00
Speaker
I don't really like the pen scene where he is standing at the bar and he's like, is this your pen?
00:33:07
Speaker
And the guy gets all mad and tells him to shove it up his butt or whatever.
00:33:10
Speaker
And then Joe Pesci comes over there and just starts stabbing the guy.
00:33:17
Speaker
Apparently that was mostly improvised by Joe Pesci.
00:33:22
Speaker
He said, I told the story to Marty Scorsese.
00:33:26
Speaker
about a mobster I knew when I was a little kid that killed a guy with a pen.
00:33:30
Speaker
So we were there and I was just supposed to argue with the guy, but I figured why not just start stabbing him.
00:33:37
Speaker
So then Steve stabbed the guy and he was just going to town.
00:33:42
Speaker
I didn't want to put that, but then when I read that article about him improvising and I was like, yeah, I'm putting that on there.
00:33:50
Speaker
So that's my third scene.
00:33:51
Speaker
Dude, I'm glad that you did because it was pretty early in the movie.
00:33:53
Speaker
It was showing the backstory of the two characters being friends before they both moved to Vegas.
00:33:58
Speaker
It just shows you how absolutely freaking psychotic Joe Pesci's character was, Nicky.
00:34:02
Speaker
So crazy.
00:34:04
Speaker
I can't, I mean like...
00:34:06
Speaker
I don't want to live in a world where if someone insults me with words, that someone might get stabbed.
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah, but dude, I keep thinking the whole time, I'm 47, I talk a lot of shit.
00:34:19
Speaker
I've never been in a fight.
00:34:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:21
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:34:22
Speaker
Like...
00:34:24
Speaker
Yeah, like the last time I got punched was in fourth grade.
00:34:27
Speaker
And I was like in the middle of changing clothes for basketball practice.
00:34:31
Speaker
And I didn't even see it coming.
00:34:32
Speaker
I was like, why did you do that?
00:34:35
Speaker
I was like, I don't know.
00:34:36
Speaker
I was like, well, don't do it again.
00:34:37
Speaker
Like that's the level of violence I'm comfortable with.
00:34:42
Speaker
I mean, I've gotten hit in the face when I was trying to break up fights.
00:34:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:47
Speaker
But I'm not fighting anybody.
00:34:50
Speaker
Jesus.
00:34:52
Speaker
I see a Russian tank rolling down Flatbush Avenue.
00:34:54
Speaker
I don't give a fuck.
00:34:56
Speaker
Here, take this gun.
00:34:57
Speaker
I'm not doing anything with that.
00:35:00
Speaker
Well, so there's a lot of words in this movie.
00:35:02
Speaker
Did you have any quotes?
00:35:04
Speaker
There's so many words.
00:35:05
Speaker
I was trying to look up some of the scenes.
00:35:06
Speaker
There's a couple.
00:35:07
Speaker
I like the Ace Rothstein and the Robert De Niro character had a bunch of like...
00:35:15
Speaker
I had a bunch of quotes.
00:35:15
Speaker
I was trying, because he's doing voiceover throughout the whole thing.
Casino Operations and Innovations
00:35:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:18
Speaker
The one of the ones I had down was he's talking about running a casino.
00:35:21
Speaker
And he's like, in the casino, the cardinal rule is to keep them playing and to keep them coming back.
00:35:25
Speaker
The longer they play, the more they lose.
00:35:26
Speaker
And in the end, we get it all.
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:28
Speaker
And that quote happens over the...
00:35:31
Speaker
Yeah, dude, there's this like whale is like Japanese gambler who comes in, wins like $2 million from the casino and gets ready to go back to I think maybe it was actually Chinese.
00:35:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:40
Speaker
And and so he's getting back on the casino's private plane to fly back with all the money.
00:35:45
Speaker
And De Niro fakes a plane problem.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:48
Speaker
And then somehow like manages to make sure the commercial flights are all booked up.
00:35:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:52
Speaker
And they go, hey, we're so sorry about that, Mr. Whatever.
00:35:55
Speaker
Come stay.
00:35:55
Speaker
We got you comped.
00:35:56
Speaker
And then we'll put you in the penthouse.
00:35:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:59
Speaker
And they just, and the guy freaking stays and gives all the money back.
00:36:01
Speaker
And then like another million dollars is like, dude, that, I know that's a, if that exact thing didn't happen, that type of thing has happened a bunch.
00:36:08
Speaker
Dude.
00:36:08
Speaker
And the weird thing is, is I keep hearing, cause you know how prevalent sports gambling is now.
00:36:15
Speaker
Well, I have a bunch of students that are pretending to be 18 and they're all on sports gambling and they keep telling me like, Mr. Horn, it's a lock.
00:36:22
Speaker
I'm telling you, you need to do this one because I'm all, I'm all get it.
00:36:25
Speaker
Um, I'm like, dude, you're not, that's not, you're not going to make enough money to live like that.
00:36:31
Speaker
Like that's, Oh, I'm going to go to the casino.
00:36:33
Speaker
I'm good at cards.
00:36:34
Speaker
You don't even know.
00:36:35
Speaker
Like, yeah.
00:36:36
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:37
Speaker
The casino always wins, man.
00:36:39
Speaker
That's not a thing.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:41
Speaker
You need to show those kids rounders.
00:36:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:44
Speaker
They don't.
00:36:45
Speaker
You think they could watch rounders?
00:36:46
Speaker
They couldn't sit through that.
00:36:47
Speaker
It takes too long.
00:36:48
Speaker
There's too much talking and yapping and yearning for a love.
00:36:51
Speaker
Yearning for the love that will never be.
00:36:53
Speaker
Taking a valuable killing and fornication to them.
00:36:57
Speaker
Killing and foreign engagement.
00:36:59
Speaker
Dude, my first quote is Ace 2.
00:37:00
Speaker
He said, there's three ways of doing things around here.
00:37:02
Speaker
The right way, the wrong way, and the way that I do it.
00:37:06
Speaker
I like that.
00:37:06
Speaker
I might start using that at school because I don't do stuff the right way.
00:37:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:11
Speaker
But I don't do it the wrong way either.
00:37:14
Speaker
So that was my first one.
00:37:17
Speaker
I like that one.
00:37:18
Speaker
I'm not like a huge rule follower.
00:37:19
Speaker
I mean, I don't want to go to jail, but I'm also like 55.
00:37:22
Speaker
I go 59, 60.
00:37:23
Speaker
It's fine.
00:37:24
Speaker
No big deal.
00:37:25
Speaker
But yeah, I like that one too.
00:37:27
Speaker
The next one I had was also from De Niro.
00:37:31
Speaker
This is another voiceover quote.
00:37:33
Speaker
He's talking about like, he's getting to be like a well-known person in Vegas.
00:37:36
Speaker
He's like shaking hands, like politicians are coming up.
00:37:38
Speaker
He's like giving them free shit and like hooking them up with stuff.
00:37:41
Speaker
And the voiceover is like back home, they would have put me in jail for what I'm doing, but out here they gave me the key to the city.
00:37:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:47
Speaker
That's freaking great.
00:37:48
Speaker
I'm getting.
00:37:48
Speaker
And I like how they kept saying stuff like that the whole time.
00:37:50
Speaker
It's like, Hey, it's Vegas.
00:37:51
Speaker
Like you just do like Nikki had a quote at one point.
00:37:54
Speaker
He's like, it's like this site is like this place is like a morality car wash.
00:37:58
Speaker
It's like, it just washes away your sins.
00:38:00
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:01
Speaker
uh dude he had a lot when his voiceovers came on his were pretty good too there was one where he was talking about the underboss uh pescano that's one of my quotes where um he's like this guy could f up a cup of coffee like he was just trying to show him like how inept this one underboss was uh and that's the guy that ended up getting them all busted
00:38:23
Speaker
So, and dude, do you know that the, like, and so they're in a grocery store in Kansas city.
00:38:29
Speaker
He's like taking, he's keeping the records of all the casino skimming.
00:38:32
Speaker
He's like the guy that he's the point person for that operation.
00:38:35
Speaker
It's all running through him.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:36
Speaker
And he's standing in this like little family grocery store in Kansas city, like talking to some of his buddies.
00:38:41
Speaker
Every, the other thing I liked about this movie is that all of the mafia enforcers are all dudes that are in their seventies.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:47
Speaker
Like they all look like they're going to be wheeling an oxygen tank around and like playing Keno and shit.
00:38:51
Speaker
And they're just like hitting people up ahead with baseball bats.
00:38:54
Speaker
That's what I don't understand.
00:38:55
Speaker
It feels like if you're like, I don't know, in good shape, you wouldn't have to worry about that.
00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah, unless they use the gun like they did a lot of times.
00:39:04
Speaker
But yes, if you, some of those mafia guys with baseball bats, I'd be like, I could just run away from you.
00:39:09
Speaker
I feel okay about that.
00:39:12
Speaker
But then his old Italian mom is there, and he's going around, and he's like, he's fucking guys, and his mom's like, hey, language.
00:39:18
Speaker
He's like, all right, sorry, you can tell I'm getting upset.
00:39:20
Speaker
She's like, you don't need to talk like that.
00:39:22
Speaker
So he's just, it's a freaking great, he's talking about mafia shit and how he's going to murder a bunch of people and how everyone's effing him over, and his 90-year-old Italian mother's like, language.
00:39:31
Speaker
While we're making soup and shit.
00:39:35
Speaker
And the mom is Martin Scorsese's actual mom.
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah, Catherine Scorsese.
00:39:39
Speaker
I saw that because I recognized her.
00:39:42
Speaker
Dude, also in the background, it was just being somebody who goes to the grocery for my...
00:39:49
Speaker
household i was super upset i was like what the prices yeah a head of lettuce was 15 cents i was like god damn it i buy lettuce at the grocery now i just walk out and put it directly in the trash because it's already bad like i don't yeah dude yeah let me just throw this away here instead of having to do it at my house right um um my last quote ace rothenstein rothenstein
00:40:13
Speaker
He is talking to a baker because he is sitting there and eating a blueberry muffin.
00:40:19
Speaker
And the person he's eating with, I can't remember if it's Joe Pesci or not.
00:40:23
Speaker
It's Kevin Pollack.
00:40:24
Speaker
Kevin Pollack.
00:40:24
Speaker
That's right.
00:40:25
Speaker
He's the front man for the casino.
00:40:27
Speaker
He's like the legitimate business person.
00:40:29
Speaker
And he's freaking great.
00:40:30
Speaker
He's great.
00:40:31
Speaker
He's great.
00:40:32
Speaker
He has more blueberries in his blueberry muffin than De Niro does.
00:40:37
Speaker
Dude, way more.
00:40:37
Speaker
I would have been pissed.
00:40:38
Speaker
Yeah, it was not.
00:40:39
Speaker
If I was running that shit, I would have been back there talking to the kitchen, too.
00:40:42
Speaker
De Niro's muffin was just all muffin.
00:40:45
Speaker
There's no blueberries.
00:40:46
Speaker
Yeah, it was just cake.
00:40:47
Speaker
And Kevin Cox was just a fistful of blueberries with some frosting on.
00:40:51
Speaker
And he's like, I want an equal amount of blueberries in each muffin.
00:40:54
Speaker
He's like, you know how long it's going to take?
00:40:55
Speaker
He's like, I don't care how long it takes.
00:40:57
Speaker
Put an equal amount in each muffin.
00:41:00
Speaker
Uh, that's frigging great.
00:41:01
Speaker
If the, the minutia that he worries about is the reason they're making tons of money.
00:41:06
Speaker
Well, dude, so first thing is that it's actually not that hard to make that happen because you just do the muffin batter and then pour it into the muffin tin and then go add the blueberries later.
00:41:16
Speaker
It's not hard at all to get the right amount of blueberries in every one.
00:41:19
Speaker
I don't know what the fuck that guy's problem was.
00:41:21
Speaker
Two is that Frank Rosenthal, a lefty, who's running all these casinos, actually was that detail-oriented.
00:41:28
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:41:29
Speaker
He was the first person who put a sportsbook inside of a casino, which now every casino in Vegas has a huge sportsbook.
00:41:34
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:34
Speaker
He was the first one who had female blackjack dealers, and they said they doubled the money they made in blackjack in the first year that he did that.
00:41:41
Speaker
So he actually was that obsessive and detail-oriented and innovative.
00:41:44
Speaker
Anything worth doing.
00:41:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker
He was Jamie Dugan in that shit.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah, he was.
00:41:50
Speaker
I think my third quote, I was trying to think about it, is I wanted to capture something about the triangle between the three characters.
00:41:57
Speaker
The one from the trailer where Sharon Stone's all mad because De Niro won't give her money for cocaine or whatever she's mad about.
00:42:07
Speaker
She's a junkie at this point.
00:42:08
Speaker
Or James Wood.
00:42:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:09
Speaker
Yeah, and she's also sleeping with Joe Pesci, and she's like, she just comes over, she's all freaking strung out, and she's crying.
00:42:16
Speaker
She's like, that's it.
00:42:18
Speaker
She's like, just kill him.
00:42:19
Speaker
Can't you just kill him?
00:42:20
Speaker
And Joe Pesci's just like angry.
00:42:22
Speaker
Joe Pesci's like, I've only got for 35 years.
00:42:24
Speaker
You're going to whack him because of you?
00:42:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:28
Speaker
Dude, that dynamic between him and Sharon Stone, that kept building the tension, and I didn't like it.
00:42:37
Speaker
So I'm...
00:42:38
Speaker
I thought that was super interesting because they apparently in the mob world, which I know nothing about, like, like De Niro knew that his freaking mob enforcer buddy was sleeping with his strung out coke head wife.
00:42:54
Speaker
And he didn't care.
00:42:55
Speaker
And Nikki knew that he knew and didn't care.
00:42:58
Speaker
But they both had to keep it a secret because the mob doesn't like that.
00:43:03
Speaker
They're like, if they find out if you're sleeping with someone else's wife, they'll just kill everyone involved.
00:43:07
Speaker
They're big on, you know, just being married and staying married.
00:43:11
Speaker
I'm like, I like how they didn't care, but they had to keep it a secret anyway.
00:43:14
Speaker
I don't like cheating like that.
00:43:15
Speaker
So I'm going to murder someone.
00:43:17
Speaker
Which one's worse?
00:43:18
Speaker
Are they both bad?
00:43:19
Speaker
They're both bad.
00:43:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:22
Speaker
So I like the, I do love the moral relativism from the, from the mob.
00:43:25
Speaker
I like that.
00:43:26
Speaker
I like that dynamic.
00:43:27
Speaker
Although I couldn't, I mean, Sharon Stone's a good actress.
00:43:30
Speaker
Cause if I was looking at Joe Pesci's freaking hair piece, I was like, here we go.
00:43:32
Speaker
We're going to make out.
00:43:33
Speaker
I don't, I don't think I can do it.
00:43:37
Speaker
She's such a good actress.
00:43:38
Speaker
She should have got that Golden Globe.
00:43:40
Speaker
You know why?
00:43:41
Speaker
Joe Pesci's hairpiece.
00:43:44
Speaker
Yeah, man.
00:43:45
Speaker
I think that's my third quote.
00:43:47
Speaker
Because I thought that dynamic was right.
00:43:48
Speaker
If I'm cutting the movie down, I'm not cutting that part out.
00:43:50
Speaker
That was kind of cool.
00:43:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:51
Speaker
No, I get it.
00:43:52
Speaker
All right, dude.
00:43:53
Speaker
Let's do characters.
00:43:54
Speaker
Top three characters.
00:43:55
Speaker
Who you got?
00:43:55
Speaker
The three on the poster.
00:43:57
Speaker
That's what I got, man.
00:43:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:59
Speaker
I really like James Woods.
00:44:00
Speaker
I really like Kevin Pollack.
00:44:01
Speaker
I really like Don Rickles.
00:44:02
Speaker
But none of them were really in the movie enough.
00:44:04
Speaker
They weren't enough.
00:44:05
Speaker
Right.
00:44:06
Speaker
Right.
00:44:06
Speaker
And for as long a movie this is and for as big of a scale, as many sets as there are, there aren't that many actors.
00:44:12
Speaker
Yeah, there are a bunch of actors, but none of them are big scene-stealing spots.
00:44:20
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:44:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:23
Speaker
Dude, Joe Pesci, everybody said he's just playing his Goodfellas character again, but...
00:44:29
Speaker
I like how he's the muscle.
00:44:31
Speaker
I think that's great.
00:44:32
Speaker
I think a five foot two angry Italian person is great muscle.
00:44:36
Speaker
And I like De Niro's methodical.
00:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, he's based on Anthony Spilotro, who is a real mafia enforcer named Tony the Ant.
00:44:46
Speaker
And the reason that his nickname was Tony the Ant is that the mob got a hold of an FBI wiretap where the FBI agent referred to him as a little piss ant.
00:44:57
Speaker
and the newspapers couldn't write piss ants.
00:45:00
Speaker
They just called him Tony the Ant.
00:45:02
Speaker
Tony the Ant.
00:45:03
Speaker
Nice.
00:45:03
Speaker
And then that got to be his name.
00:45:04
Speaker
And he really did get killed by the mob for the shit that happened in this movie with his brother in a cornfield and got buried there.
00:45:14
Speaker
I don't want to be buried in a cornfield.
00:45:17
Speaker
I don't want to be killed with a baseball bat after I watch my brother get killed.
00:45:20
Speaker
I don't want any of that.
00:45:21
Speaker
No, I don't want any of that.
00:45:22
Speaker
They were both breathing when they started covering him up with dairy.
00:45:24
Speaker
They were alive.
00:45:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:26
Speaker
I also put Sharon Stone in there because she was an emotional hurricane that was, it did really, she did a great job.
00:45:35
Speaker
She did a really good job.
00:45:36
Speaker
Her character's crazy.
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah, super crazy.
00:45:38
Speaker
Take her out of the movie and I'll still maybe watch it like the fan edit, but she did great.
00:45:44
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think—I mean, I'm not like a huge—if I look at her movies, I'm like, I don't—there's nothing that she did that I think is like— none of my movies are Sharon Stone movies.
00:45:52
Speaker
Like, she's in some stuff.
00:45:53
Speaker
She's fine to good, but I don't— Yeah.
00:45:57
Speaker
I don't know.
00:45:57
Speaker
I just don't think—she's not one of my favorites.
00:46:00
Speaker
But when I read interviews with her and I hear her talk about her life and her career, I like her.
00:46:04
Speaker
I'm like, this—
00:46:06
Speaker
She seems like she's badass, but yeah, I just never think her performances are incredible.
00:46:10
Speaker
Because I was thinking, if I put like, I don't know, just pick somebody, like Laura Dern or somebody in this role, it would probably be, I mean, it's harder to pitch her as the hottest showgirl in Vegas.
00:46:22
Speaker
Right.
00:46:22
Speaker
But I could put a bunch of actresses in this part.
00:46:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:26
Speaker
No, I see that.
00:46:28
Speaker
I could see that.
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah, but dude, I really, I do like Sharon Stone.
00:46:32
Speaker
And I like that the costumers spent a million dollars on a lot of it just on her outfits.
00:46:38
Speaker
She also said, because this is based on real people and they were in Vegas, she said she kept getting like notes from people.
00:46:43
Speaker
It's like, hey, I knew Jerry, the real person.
00:46:47
Speaker
who actually did OD in LA, just like it showed in the movie.
00:46:50
Speaker
They're like, meet me in this corner.
00:46:51
Speaker
I'll be wearing a blue shirt.
00:46:52
Speaker
I'll tell you some stories.
00:46:53
Speaker
And one of the people who met Sharon Stone and told her stories about Jerry said that her favorite, her favorite song was BB King's The Thrill Is Gone.
00:47:02
Speaker
Oh, nice.
00:47:02
Speaker
And so she would listen to it on set all the time.
00:47:04
Speaker
And Scorsese was like, what are you listening to?
00:47:06
Speaker
And Sharon Stone told her the story.
00:47:08
Speaker
And then they put that song in the movie.
00:47:10
Speaker
They did.
00:47:10
Speaker
Yeah, that was good.
00:47:11
Speaker
I'm like, they did a bunch of shit to like keep this as real as real could be.
00:47:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:15
Speaker
Cool.
00:47:16
Speaker
that's awesome the the soundtrack is killer by the way you're right yeah dude it's awesome and then de niro's the third character we both got he's dude he's great i was like methodical obsessive just he's he's really good and i i mean de niro's like i freaking love that guy and i i'm trying to think of like
00:47:39
Speaker
I don't really ever see him in stuff where it's like, I didn't like that that much.
00:47:43
Speaker
Right.
00:47:44
Speaker
At least as far as his performance goes.
00:47:45
Speaker
I don't know what it is about.
00:47:49
Speaker
I didn't realize he's 82 now.
00:47:53
Speaker
Well, I remember seeing him on one of the roasts and he looked it.
00:47:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:59
Speaker
He's pretty old.
00:48:00
Speaker
82, that's a pretty good run.
00:48:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's no Dick Van Dyke, but it's not bad.
00:48:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:06
Speaker
I think he also has a daughter, though, that's like a baby, doesn't he?
00:48:12
Speaker
That sounds right.
00:48:13
Speaker
Let's see.
00:48:17
Speaker
He's got seven children.
De Niro's Personal Life and Connections
00:48:19
Speaker
Jeesy crazy.
00:48:25
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:48:25
Speaker
His daughter, Gia.
00:48:27
Speaker
He fathered when he was 79 with his girlfriend, Tiffany Chen.
00:48:33
Speaker
That'll be cool.
00:48:33
Speaker
They can be in diapers at the same time.
00:48:35
Speaker
Oldest fathers in their own record.
00:48:39
Speaker
Dude, being a father is by far the coolest thing in the world.
00:48:44
Speaker
But if you ask me if I want to have a kid when I'm 80, I promise you it's a no.
00:48:48
Speaker
That's a no from me.
00:48:49
Speaker
Well, I hate to tell you, there's a guy named James E. Smith that was 101 when he had a baby in 1951.
00:48:55
Speaker
Wow.
00:49:02
Speaker
All right.
00:49:03
Speaker
That's the hard-hitting information that you come to us for.
00:49:06
Speaker
That's pretty old.
00:49:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's old.
00:49:09
Speaker
He's an old dude.
00:49:10
Speaker
All right.
00:49:11
Speaker
What about director Scorsese?
00:49:14
Speaker
So Scorsese's the director.
00:49:15
Speaker
He also co-writes the script with Nicholas Pelleggi, who writes the book about these real people.
00:49:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:22
Speaker
So he wrote the Goodfellas script with Scorsese.
00:49:24
Speaker
They worked together on that.
00:49:25
Speaker
He starts working on this project while they're doing Goodfellas.
00:49:29
Speaker
And he's like, I'm going to write this book and then maybe we could adapt it as a screenplay.
00:49:32
Speaker
And Scorsese's like, why don't you just, let's do the screenplay first and you write the book later.
00:49:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:37
Speaker
So, but he, but he was Oscar nominated for the adaptation of Goodfellas in 1990, Nicholas Pelleggi.
00:49:43
Speaker
Nice.
00:49:44
Speaker
So they wrote this together.
00:49:45
Speaker
He wrote the book, Scorsese directed the movie.
00:49:50
Speaker
He's a consigliere.
00:49:52
Speaker
Consigliere.
00:49:55
Speaker
What is this?
00:49:55
Speaker
Chrome?
00:49:55
Speaker
I can see my reflection.
00:49:58
Speaker
That is one of the best Robert De Niro movies.
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:50:03
Speaker
Analyze this.
00:50:03
Speaker
Fantastic.
00:50:05
Speaker
They're doing another Meet the Fuckers or whatever Meet the Parents.
00:50:07
Speaker
So I'm kind of curious how that's going to go.
00:50:10
Speaker
I can't get it up.
00:50:12
Speaker
What, you mean sexually?
00:50:13
Speaker
No, for the big game against Michigan.
00:50:18
Speaker
I have nipples, fucker.
00:50:18
Speaker
Could you milk me?
00:50:21
Speaker
We were talking about this before because neither of us are huge Scorsese fans.
00:50:23
Speaker
He's done some movies that we really like.
00:50:25
Speaker
Right.
00:50:26
Speaker
The Aviator I really like and Wolf of Wall Street I really like.
00:50:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:30
Speaker
And like even like Cape Fear, Color of Money.
00:50:33
Speaker
But a lot I was like, dude, what's the I think it's like it seems like half of his movies are about the mafia.
00:50:38
Speaker
It seems like too many and all of them are way too long.
00:50:40
Speaker
And so I figured it out.
00:50:42
Speaker
He's got, I think, 19 feature films.
00:50:46
Speaker
And the average runtime of those 19 feature films is two hours and 35 minutes.
00:50:49
Speaker
Oof.
00:50:51
Speaker
The longest is The Irishman, 209 minutes.
00:50:54
Speaker
Are you kidding me?
00:50:55
Speaker
Three and a half hours.
00:50:57
Speaker
That's way too much.
00:51:01
Speaker
But, I mean...
00:51:04
Speaker
And the shortest one is freaking like Color of Money, which is great.
00:51:08
Speaker
And then Cape Fear is 128 minutes.
00:51:10
Speaker
Cape Fear is really good.
00:51:11
Speaker
Freaking Edward Norton is terrifying in that movie.
00:51:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:15
Speaker
Dude.
00:51:16
Speaker
So it's like we recognize that Scorsese is a director of immense skill and everybody he works with is incredible, but it's like, it's just not right.
00:51:23
Speaker
It's not my jam.
00:51:24
Speaker
It's not my jam either.
00:51:25
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:51:26
Speaker
Give me some explosions.
00:51:27
Speaker
Right.
00:51:29
Speaker
Speaking of explosions, I found a little factoid that Michael Mann,
00:51:34
Speaker
who directed De Niro in another great movie that we did this year, Heat.
00:51:38
Speaker
Heat.
00:51:39
Speaker
He had an NBC crime show in the early 1980s that he created and ran.
00:51:42
Speaker
It's called Crime Story.
00:51:44
Speaker
And one of the lead characters was also based on Tony the Ant, Tony Spolotro.
00:51:49
Speaker
Nice.
00:51:49
Speaker
And it's because Michael Mann went to high school with the actual guy, Tony Spolotro.
00:51:53
Speaker
Good Lord.
00:51:54
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:51:55
Speaker
Which explains kind of why Michael Mann is into mafia stuff.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:58
Speaker
He grew up with these dudes.
00:52:00
Speaker
That's wild.
00:52:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:03
Speaker
I, are we going to, are we at the age where we would already know if somebody is going to be that and we could say like, oh, we went to high school with that guy.
00:52:13
Speaker
And he's.
00:52:14
Speaker
The people that we went to high school with have already accomplished everything that they're going to accomplish, including me and you.
00:52:18
Speaker
And it's mostly none of us have done anything.
00:52:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:21
Speaker
I don't know.
00:52:21
Speaker
I'm looking at this picture.
00:52:23
Speaker
Just another people, another person taking a shit that ends up in a river.
00:52:26
Speaker
I don't recognize any of you.
00:52:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:29
Speaker
That's exactly where I was going with that.
00:52:32
Speaker
We get down to like 30,000.
00:52:33
Speaker
30,000 feet of shit.
00:52:35
Speaker
Lanes opening up on the highway.
00:52:37
Speaker
We can all go to the Super Bowl.
00:52:38
Speaker
22 of you are playing.
00:52:41
Speaker
Shoot a bald eagle right in the head.
00:52:43
Speaker
You're shitting on my tank.
00:52:44
Speaker
Drive a tank.
00:52:47
Speaker
But yeah, man, do you have anything else on the writers or directors or any bonus stuff?
00:52:51
Speaker
I don't.
00:52:52
Speaker
Oh, this was Scorsese's first time digitally editing the movie.
00:52:55
Speaker
Nice.
00:52:57
Speaker
That was a new technical chapter in his career.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, and there was some cool stuff about the production.
00:53:02
Speaker
Like, they shot in Super 38, and it's because Scorsese knew it was going to be released on... It'd have to go to TV, and he really hates pan and scan.
00:53:11
Speaker
So he's like, we shoot in Super 38, and we can crop every single shot to make it look the way it's supposed to.
00:53:16
Speaker
I don't want to do pan and scan.
00:53:18
Speaker
And I was like, that's actually pretty awesome.
00:53:19
Speaker
Because then I think the next movie he does in Super 38, you can do it digitally, but in this one, they're actually having to, like...
00:53:27
Speaker
Um, the cinematographer's like, I don't want to do that.
00:53:30
Speaker
And he didn't do super 38 again until he did kill bill where they could do it digitally to adapt it for TV.
00:53:37
Speaker
Nice.
00:53:38
Speaker
But yeah, there's some cool stuff like that.
00:53:39
Speaker
They filmed this thing in the actual Riviera casino at night.
00:53:42
Speaker
Um,
00:53:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was a bunch of, like, dealers and, like, people that worked there that were pretending to be patrons.
00:53:53
Speaker
That's pretty cool.
00:53:53
Speaker
Yeah, if you really like this movie, I do recommend you go and read at least the Wikipedia pages of the three people that this movie is based on, because it's kind of crazy how accurate the story was, even though they did change
Accuracy and Criticism of 'Casino'
00:54:05
Speaker
a lot of stuff.
00:54:05
Speaker
Like, they changed all their names, they changed some of the cities, but, like...
00:54:08
Speaker
A lot of it was like the freaking car explosion and her OD and him getting freaking killed in the field.
00:54:14
Speaker
All that shit is exactly how it went down.
00:54:16
Speaker
That's the scary part.
00:54:18
Speaker
They could have left the cities the same and made the other part fantasy.
00:54:22
Speaker
That's terrifying.
00:54:23
Speaker
He could have died in his sleep peacefully, not screaming like the passengers in his car.
00:54:29
Speaker
Did you have any words?
00:54:31
Speaker
Buckle up.
00:54:32
Speaker
We lost his bad blasting zone.
00:54:33
Speaker
We lost Billy.
00:54:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:35
Speaker
The only worst I had is the length.
00:54:37
Speaker
I want movies to be shorter.
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:38
Speaker
Length and repetition.
00:54:39
Speaker
Three hours.
00:54:41
Speaker
And the pacing I did think was weird.
00:54:42
Speaker
I don't know.
00:54:43
Speaker
Actually, I do think that there is so much going on with this movie that now that I know more about the real story, I probably would enjoy it more if I watched it again.
00:54:52
Speaker
But I'm not gonna.
00:54:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:54
Speaker
Dude, dense narration, freaking deliberate pacing like it was.
00:54:59
Speaker
It just felt overwhelming.
00:55:01
Speaker
I don't know.
00:55:02
Speaker
It's too repetitive.
00:55:03
Speaker
Old tech, it's 70s and 80s.
00:55:06
Speaker
Political incorrectness, they said a lot of racial slurs.
00:55:10
Speaker
They said a lot of racial slurs.
00:55:11
Speaker
The old tech, real quick, at one point in time, Robert De Niro gave Sharon Stone a Bieber for her to carry on her all the time, which I thought was amazing.
00:55:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:19
Speaker
Did you see it, though?
00:55:20
Speaker
It was the size of a manila envelope.
00:55:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:22
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:55:23
Speaker
Shit was ginormous.
00:55:24
Speaker
Huge.
00:55:26
Speaker
Yeah, political incorrectness, a lot of people called a lot of other people inappropriate names that we're not allowed to repeat.
00:55:31
Speaker
Yeah, misogyny, domestic violence, racial slurs, all of that stuff.
00:55:35
Speaker
Regular violence.
00:55:36
Speaker
Eyeballs popping out of the skull.
00:55:38
Speaker
Even for 95, that's tough to watch, even on 95 standards.
00:55:44
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:55:45
Speaker
And just the cigarette smoking would have got him an R rating.
00:55:47
Speaker
Forget about all the violence.
00:55:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:50
Speaker
I don't, they were, he was lighting a lot of cigarettes.
00:55:53
Speaker
Do people get addicted when they do that?
00:55:55
Speaker
They gotta.
00:55:57
Speaker
Like I, well, I think in Hollywood it's like, first of all, smoking a cigarette, we've talked about this on the podcast.
00:56:02
Speaker
It looks fricking awesome on camera and it gives you something to do with your hands.
00:56:06
Speaker
I don't know what to do with my hands.
00:56:07
Speaker
So it's great for movies and also it's an appetite suppressant.
00:56:11
Speaker
So everyone in Hollywood wants to be skinny anyway.
00:56:13
Speaker
It's like I kind of, I think they all wished you could still smoke and not be R rated because they would also be doing it.
00:56:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:20
Speaker
Because it's cool.
00:56:21
Speaker
It just happens to kill you.
00:56:22
Speaker
So you can't do it.
00:56:24
Speaker
All the cool stuff happens to kill you.
00:56:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:28
Speaker
This, that other guy.
00:56:29
Speaker
Bacon.
00:56:29
Speaker
All right.
00:56:32
Speaker
Five questions.
00:56:33
Speaker
Is it okay for kids?
00:56:34
Speaker
God, Christ.
00:56:35
Speaker
No.
00:56:36
Speaker
I had to cover my eyes.
00:56:38
Speaker
I'm 45.
00:56:38
Speaker
I had to cover my eyes at one point.
00:56:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:42
Speaker
Brutal violence.
00:56:43
Speaker
Pervasive, strong language, if you will.
00:56:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:47
Speaker
It's extreme.
00:56:47
Speaker
Drug use.
00:56:49
Speaker
All kinds of stuff.
Scorsese's Recent Projects
00:56:50
Speaker
Would it get made if it were pitched now?
00:56:51
Speaker
I think Scorsese's still making it.
00:56:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:55
Speaker
He just did Kings of New York not that long ago.
00:56:57
Speaker
And the Irishman.
00:56:59
Speaker
The Irishman is the one I was... I want to see Killers of the Flower Moon.
00:57:03
Speaker
So when I get a week off of work, I'm going to try to knock that out.
00:57:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:07
Speaker
Over Christmas holidays.
00:57:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:12
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I don't like... Is it a TV show?
00:57:16
Speaker
Could you make this like The Sopranos?
00:57:19
Speaker
It'd be a great TV show.
00:57:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:21
Speaker
It seems like it would be a great TV show.
00:57:22
Speaker
You could really delve into all the characters, show a multi-season TV series would be great.
00:57:27
Speaker
I felt like I watched two seasons of this already.
00:57:29
Speaker
Yeah, friggin, that's a lot.
00:57:32
Speaker
Like I watched 16 to 20 episodes in this one movie.
00:57:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:36
Speaker
I don't know who you put in this.
00:57:39
Speaker
I mean, this seems like it would be our wheelhouse.
00:57:41
Speaker
It's a bunch of old people, but you need old people that are like, can be angry.
00:57:46
Speaker
I don't.
00:57:48
Speaker
Well, when I was thinking about could it be a TV show, I immediately thought about Breaking Bad where it's like a bunch of kind of horrible people that are really... I was like, who in the Breaking Bad universe?
00:57:58
Speaker
Like obviously Bryan Cranston would be an easy one, but I kind of don't see him in any of these parts.
00:58:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard for me to see him in these two.
00:58:08
Speaker
I don't know.
00:58:09
Speaker
I don't know.
00:58:10
Speaker
I can definitely see Jonathan, what's his name?
00:58:15
Speaker
The guy that plays Mike Ehrmantrout.
00:58:17
Speaker
God, Jonathan Banks.
00:58:19
Speaker
He could definitely be in the TV version of this because he is freaking a perfect mafia guy.
00:58:23
Speaker
I've never seen Breaking Bad, so I don't know what you're talking about.
00:58:27
Speaker
But I know the idea of what you're talking about.
00:58:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:31
Speaker
Dude, I don't know.
00:58:32
Speaker
I got nothing.
00:58:34
Speaker
Margot Robbie and Leonardo DiCaprio, that's who he picks for all his movies now.
00:58:39
Speaker
Again, I don't blame him because that's one of my favorites.
00:58:43
Speaker
Wolf of Wall Street is, I think, probably my favorite Scorsese movie.
00:58:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:47
Speaker
Can we bring in Tom Hardy to play Little Nicky?
00:58:52
Speaker
He's not super small, but he feels like he could be angry.
00:58:56
Speaker
But he's not Italian.
00:58:57
Speaker
Well, the thing is, dude, he was Bane.
00:59:01
Speaker
So I believe that he could be cracking heads.
00:59:03
Speaker
I need someone that's like, dude, there's no way when in real life that's how big the guy was.
00:59:08
Speaker
Who's the littlest guy?
00:59:10
Speaker
That wears an oversized Yankees T-shirt and underwear to sleep in.
00:59:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:15
Speaker
I'd have to get Fred Savage for that.
00:59:21
Speaker
Ah, that's what it's going to be.
00:59:23
Speaker
What would you do?
00:59:27
Speaker
Can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2025?
00:59:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean... No, because it's October and you won't be able to finish it before the end of the year.
00:59:34
Speaker
You better really step on it if you want to get it done in 2025.
00:59:37
Speaker
Dude, the acting is really well done.
00:59:39
Speaker
If you're interested in that period of Vegas, Scorsese is obviously very good at his job.
00:59:44
Speaker
And so is the cinematographer whose name we didn't mention because we don't know enough about movies.
00:59:49
Speaker
But dude, I just...
00:59:51
Speaker
She's long, buddy.
00:59:53
Speaker
Yeah, super long.
00:59:55
Speaker
Get started now so you won't miss Thanksgiving.
01:00:00
Speaker
But it is, it's long.
01:00:03
Speaker
There's that too.
01:00:05
Speaker
Don't forget it's also.
01:00:06
Speaker
It's available apparently on Amazon Prime.
01:00:11
Speaker
Nice.
01:00:12
Speaker
Maybe on Netflix, but Netflix does a thing where it's like, hey, you want to watch Casino?
01:00:15
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It's like, just kidding, we don't have it anymore.
01:00:17
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We don't have that, but here's some other movies that feel like Casino.
01:00:22
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We have Casino Royale.
01:00:22
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Is that good?
01:00:23
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Is that enough?
01:00:25
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You can watch it twice.
01:00:28
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Really get the feeling of the three hours.
01:00:31
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All right.
01:00:31
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I think we got it done.
01:00:32
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Yeah.
01:00:34
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What's next?
01:00:34
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Yeah.
01:00:35
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Next up, we're going to lighten it up a little bit, and we're going to do Pocahontas.
01:00:39
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Ooh.
01:00:41
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Colors of the Wind.
01:00:43
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Yeah.
01:00:44
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The history teacher in me is going to come out big time.
01:00:46
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I'm going to try to turn that down a little bit.
01:00:49
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Yeah, dude.
01:00:50
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Start debunking how much stuff didn't really happen.
01:00:52
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All of it.
01:00:53
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That happened in Pocahontas.
01:00:54
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All of it.
01:00:54
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Pretty much all of it.
01:00:55
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Yeah.
01:00:56
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Yeah.
01:00:56
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The closest thing to real is the talking raccoon.
01:00:59
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That's like, no.
01:01:03
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No, we'll talk about it.
01:01:04
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All right.
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We'll be back in two weeks with Pocahontas.
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