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Toy Story
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To infinity, and… back to 1995. Pixar changed the game forever with Toy Story, the first feature-length computer-animated movie, and somehow it still feels like magic. Toy Story wasn’t just a kids’ movie; it was a cultural reset. Join us as we dig into the nostalgia, the behind-the-scenes chaos, and the wild fact that none of us ever looked at our toys the same way again.
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Introduction and Podcast Welcome
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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis.
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Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.
Toy Story Trailer Highlights and Copyright Issues
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In a world where toys come to life, they're two heroes.
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Hell yeah.
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Two rivals.
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Don't even think about it, cowboy.
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I don't like confrontations.
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Too close to the edge.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I got Dinsenna's head.
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Now, to make it back home, they'll have to become two partners.
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This is no time to panic.
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This is the perfect time to panic.
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Buzz, will you get up here and give me a hand?
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Toy Story, rated G.
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The boys are back in town.
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That's a weird choice.
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Yeah, our YouTube video that isn't even uploaded yet has already been copyright stricken for that song in the trailer.
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But you know, live by the sword, die by the sword, I guess.
Hosts' Enthusiasm and Toy Story's Box Office Success
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Movie Life Crisis Season 5, Episode 20, Toy Story.
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Toy Story.
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Great.
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Can't believe we made it all the way to Toy Story.
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Dude, I...
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I'm very excited about Toy Story for a number of reasons.
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It's either the number one or number two biggest movie of the year, depending on how you want to do your accounting.
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It didn't come out until Thanksgiving week, so in the actual year 95, it didn't earn as much as other movies.
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But if you take movies that released in 95's total box office runs, this is number one.
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Yeah.
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Killed.
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Also, my son is about to, who wasn't even born when we started this podcast, is about to turn four, and this is the first podcast movie that he and I have watched together.
Personal Experiences and Traditions with Toy Story
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Nice.
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Because they did a 30th anniversary screening of it.
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And he came home from like, he went to see his fricking cousins with my wife and he was like, wiped out.
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I was like, why don't we go to a movie?
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And my wife's like, that's great.
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See it later on.
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And so he and I sat in the theater with like eight people and ate a fricking huge bowl of popcorn.
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And like he loves Toy Story and I was having a blast.
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So that was positively delightful.
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Nice.
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And then also, I love Miss Toy Story 2.
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I gotta be honest.
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I would have sat there with you and ate a big bowl of popcorn also.
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Yeah, it was amazing.
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And the cool thing is because he's three, the movie ticket for him is way less.
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No, it's not the same price.
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$16 for him to get in there.
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And then like, it was like 15 something.
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And it was like 17 something for me.
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Like they're doing me a favor.
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Like, oh, it's $1.50 off.
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He's sitting in my lap.
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He's eating my food.
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There's nobody in the theater.
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I wonder why the movies aren't doing so well.
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They do like $1 movies during the summer, during the daytime, but this one they're like, no, full price pitches, hand it over.
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Yeah, I like the $5 summer things that we used to do when the kids were doing that.
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Yeah, they were doing like $1 summer movies, but it was all shit that I didn't think he really was going to want to
Quotes and Pixar's Influence on Animation
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see.
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But anyway, we were Toy Story last year for Halloween.
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We still got the costumes.
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We're doing it again.
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So we've been in the groove.
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We do Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3.
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Who do you dress up as, Buzz?
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No, no.
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I'm Bullseye.
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He's Woody's horse.
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Oh, nice.
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Yeah, Wolf is Woody.
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My wife is Jesse.
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And then I'm Bullseye.
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So I get to wear a horse costume.
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Which is fun because that's the heaviest and also the hottest.
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Yeah.
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That's all right.
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It's October.
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It's really cool outside.
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It was in the 90s.
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If it's a costume I don't have to come up with and my wife purchased it and I just stand in there and zip in there and start sweating.
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That's great.
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Plastic mask, rubber band, staple holding it on.
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Yeah.
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I don't recall Superman wearing a jacket.
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Uh,
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But yeah, man.
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So the, the challenging part for the podcast is that we've seen all the movies so many times.
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So recently is that I was having a real hard time.
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I was going like, I really liked this quote.
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I was like, shit, that's Toy Story two.
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Yeah.
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I was having that problem.
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I was, I had a real, I had to go like into the internet to figure out when did this bit happen?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to do a lot of the Toy Story two stuff.
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Cause you know, like I saw that one like four times, five times in the theater.
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I thought it was awesome.
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Oh, dude, they're standard issues, Slotted Pig.
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Like, Toy Story 2 is freaking great.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is.
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Oh, man.
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But Toy Story 1, also great.
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Yeah, it is.
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Plus, this turned Pixar into a powerhouse, man.
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This thing made sure that Pixar kills it.
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Dude, I was doing my research and I was like, I mean, you could do, you could do a whole season of this podcast just about Toy Story, like the casting, the production, the animation style, the Pixar, Steve Jobs, like Disney story, like all of that shit is crazy.
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Um,
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And a lot of it I kind of knew but didn't really know.
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Man, just like the movie in and of itself is incredible.
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It's one of the – I think there's like five movies in 1995 that have 100% on
Casting Insights and Woody's Character Evolution
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Rotten Tomatoes.
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This is one of them.
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And if you read the list, it's like art house shit no one's ever heard of that three people gave 100 to.
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Not this, though.
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And then this.
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This is not Art House, yeah.
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Yeah, but it wins a bunch of stuff.
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It spawns a zillion sequels.
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The voiced cast is freaking incredible.
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Yeah, it really is.
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And the weird thing to me is, is like thinking about it now, I'm like, oh yeah, that's the answer.
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I would have picked that person to do that.
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But I don't know that I picked that other than like Woody and Buzz.
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Like, do you pick Jim Varney to be Slinky Dog?
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Jim Varney is perfect casting.
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He is though.
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To me, the crazy one is Buzz because they let like 30 people read for Buzz and they offered it to Billy Crystal and he's like, I don't think that's going to work.
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I don't want to do it.
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Yeah.
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And then after it did work, he's like, do you have any more of those?
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And they're like, yeah, you can be in Monsters, Inc.
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Swazowski with one eye.
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But yeah, so like, and it's great.
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Tim Allen is great, but I wouldn't have picked him.
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But the only reason they did is because they bred a whole bunch of people and he was doing Home Improvement, which was on ABC, which was Disney.
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Yeah.
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And they're like, we already work with this guy.
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Let's have him come over.
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Let's have him do the thing.
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Dude, and it works.
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It works.
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So good.
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Yeah.
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Quick synopsis.
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A cowboy dog gets jealous of a new space toy, and they go on a wild adventure to reunite with their owner.
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Yeah.
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Didn't read in the early drafts of this, just the whole like toys come to life when you're not looking aspect is like this movie could have been creepy as shit.
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Yeah, it could have been a horror movie for sure.
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And also the first draft I was reading, like just stuff about it.
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It was pretty dark.
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Woody was like a lot darker.
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They had to change it up.
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This is one of those that when you read the story about the production, like, dude, I can't believe this movie turned out to be any good at all, much less as good as it was because there was so much, there were so many rewrites and like they, I mean, John Lasseter, the Pixar guy who writes and directs this, is working on it for like 10 years.
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He has a short that he adapts and then he, and then Disney gets involved and Katzenberg from Disney is like, you want to work with us?
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You're probably not going to like it that much because I have a lot of ideas and I don't care about your ideas.
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Right.
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And like, dude, just like nine writers and a bunch of reshoots and a bunch of recuts.
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And then it ends up being amazing.
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How did that happen?
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Yeah.
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I don't... Dude, and honestly, as I'm reading it and they're like, oh yeah, Woody was really super unlikable.
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He was like sarcastic and he was a tyrant.
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And I'm like, what the heck?
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Like, I don't...
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Why would you even do that?
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Why would you even write that the first time through?
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Apparently Tom Hanks even said at one point when they were recording, he's like, Woody's kind of turning into a dick.
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Yeah, we're going to work on that.
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They put the movie on hiatus and they sent the animators to work on commercials while they figured it out.
Toy Story's Financial Impact and Industry Influence
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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$30 million budget, $374 million gross.
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So a 12X multiplier.
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Biggest movie of the year or second biggest, depending on how you want to do your accounting.
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Right.
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Saved Pixar, made Steve Jobs a billionaire for the first time, completely revamped how movies are done animation wise.
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And then also the like casting of celebrities instead of voice actors.
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Like they were kind of doing that before, but this one was full on.
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There were no just voice actors.
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It was all celebrities.
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Right, right, right.
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Yeah.
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So like a huge touch point in animation and also in movie history that turns out to be great and win awards and make shit boxes of money.
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Right.
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Yeah, it made a ton of awards and a bunch of spinoffs.
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You're right.
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It went hard after that.
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The funny thing is it's weird now that maybe I was like this as a kid.
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I don't think I was.
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But now, especially being an adult who has a kid, now I feel guilty if my kids' toys are not being played with.
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Yeah.
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Thinking about that too long creeps me out.
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Yeah.
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Because like, you know, the whole thing, like, I mean, of course he turns around and says something to Sid, but like of all the other times they literally just like, Andy's coming and it just drops to the ground.
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Yeah.
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Like just thinking that right now in my other, in the other room are some toys that my daughter's not playing with or moving around.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's freaking creepy.
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It's a well, it makes me think of a couple of things.
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One is the Marie Kondo like does it spark joy, you know, cleaning thing that happened like five, six years ago.
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Yeah.
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But her thing was like and I've read this other places, but it's like a sock wants to be worn.
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Its purpose is to keep your foot warm and to keep your shoes from getting stinky.
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So like if you have socks you're not wearing, they're not fulfilling their purpose.
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You should just give them to someone who can do that.
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And I'm like, that's a super weird way to think about clothing, but it helps me get rid of stuff.
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I'm like, this shirt wants to be worn.
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It doesn't want to sit in my closet all the time.
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Let me just give that away to someone who can let it fulfill its life's purpose.
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I don't think –
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I don't think about socks like that.
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I got a lot of socks.
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You should read that book.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I'm not out of sock room.
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I still have room in my sock drawer.
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So it's not like I'm full up on socks.
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You can take on some more socks.
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Well, the other thing I think about is remember the first episode of Community and Joel McHale is talking about like – he's just like a little speech with a pencil.
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He's like the amazing thing about human beings is we have the ability to like –
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make anything have a personality.
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He's like, if I take this pencil and I tell you this pencil's name is Fred and then I do this and he snaps the pencil and the whole room's like, oh, yeah.
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And I keep thinking about that during this movie too because I'm like, dude, just the fact that all the, but I do say that to Wolf.
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I'm like, hey, man, you don't really play with these toys anymore.
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Like, let's give them to someone else because they, so that way someone else could use them.
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Someone else can play with them.
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Absolutely.
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Dude, we have a whole thing where we have a separate box that we make before Santa gets here.
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And his elves take that box away to kids who need it so Santa can bring more stuff that we don't play with.
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It costs $11 billion.
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Yeah.
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Oh, big time.
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Big time.
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Yeah.
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Did you get some awards?
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Yeah.
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yeah i was gonna say awards um first of all john lasseter um he got a special achievement academy award yeah um for this one uh but also academy award nominations best original screenplay this is the first animated film in that category best original score for randy newman best original song uh you've got a friend in me randy newman
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A ton of accolades, Golden Globe nominations for Best Picture and Best Song, Annie Awards, stuff like that.
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It got a lot of them.
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The National Film Registry selected it for preservation in 2005.
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Yeah.
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The Special Achievement Academy Award, I wanted to talk about that for a second because I was like, what the hell is that?
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I'm like, that sounds like you did such a good job.
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We want to give you an Oscar even though you're not eligible for an Oscar.
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And I was reading about it.
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I was like, that's exactly what it is.
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The Academy of Motion Pictures just goes –
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This is an achievement to film, even though there's no category for it.
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We want to award it anyway, but usually it's for groundbreaking type of stuff.
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That's how big a deal this movie was in 95.
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We have to make up an Oscar to give to the guy who came up with this.
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Yeah, that's friggin' pretty sweet.
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At first, I thought it was like the J.D.
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Power and Associates where it's like, you just pay enough money and they give you that.
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You get on the list, but that's not it.
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No.
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That's why this podcast doesn't have any of those.
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We could, though.
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We could make them up now.
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The J.D.
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Power and Associates strongest podcasts out of Louisiana.
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I was just looking.
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J.D.
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Power doesn't give any podcasting awards.
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Yeah, they don't.
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But we could probably win the best truck.
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I might write in on that, yeah.
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Best pickup.
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Sequels and spinoff, they had Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, Toy Story 4.
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There's a ton of Toy Story shorts.
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A bunch
Sequels, Shorts, and First Viewing Memories
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of shorts.
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Would actually love if he hasn't seen any of them.
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The one with the Hawaiian vacation.
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God, it's so funny, dude.
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And like Party-saurus Rex, like all of those little shorts my kids used to watch incessantly.
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Then they had like another like spinoffs like Lightyear.
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Lightyear, which was not that good.
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I got to be honest, though.
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There's a part where, oh, God, who is what we do in the shadows?
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He's the director.
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Tycho Wakiti.
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Yeah, Wakiti.
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He plays one of the characters, and they're talking about making a sandwich, and they go, yeah, ham, and then you put bread, and then ham on the outside.
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They're like, ham on the outside?
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Wouldn't your fingers get all wet?
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And they're like, yeah, juicy fingers.
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That's the best part.
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Every time Cece gets stuff on her hands, she's like, juicy fingers.
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It's the best part.
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Yeah, I'm not saying Lightyear didn't have some good parts, but on the whole, as a movie.
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On the whole, it wasn't, yeah.
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But that part, dude, she'll remember that movie forever because of that.
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Totally.
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They also had a Buzz Lightyear cartoon.
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I don't know if you remember that.
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Yeah.
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They did, and Toy Story 5 is in development slash pre-production.
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One of the cool things about the Toy Story extended universe is that other than the theatrical releases, Toy Story 2, 3, and 4, I think every other Woody for the shorts and the video games and stuff like that, commercials, are voiced by Tom Hanks' brother.
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Nice.
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Sounds just like him.
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Close enough that you don't know.
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Yeah.
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Oh, and I guess we should mention at Disney World, there's Toy Story Land with a Buzz Lightyear ride and a Toy Story Mania ride, which is a blast.
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Nice.
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All that stuff, too.
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Oh, and a Slinky Dog roller coaster.
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Yeah, all the theme park stuff.
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Jim Hanks, Tom Hanks' brother, does the... That's freaking sweet.
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Does all that stuff.
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Sounds just like him.
00:14:40
Speaker
So where'd you see this?
00:14:40
Speaker
Did you see this in the theater?
00:14:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:44
Speaker
I saw it in the theater two days ago in 1995.
00:14:46
Speaker
I don't remember.
00:14:48
Speaker
I remember seeing this in the theater.
00:14:50
Speaker
Do you?
00:14:50
Speaker
Because I was going to say, I was 15 when this comes out in the theaters.
00:14:52
Speaker
I can't imagine that I was like, hey, it's Thanksgiving, Dad.
00:14:55
Speaker
Let's go see a movie, an animated movie in the theaters.
00:14:58
Speaker
But I might have.
00:14:59
Speaker
I can remember it was probably ABC, thinking back, knowing how the umbrella of Disney works.
00:15:05
Speaker
But on TV one night, my dad was flipping through the channels and he stopped because it was a Disney thing and it had computer animation.
00:15:13
Speaker
It was like the wireframe of Buzz was walking on the screen and he stopped because I was kind of into that computer stuff.
00:15:21
Speaker
So we watched the whole thing and I was like, we got to see that.
00:15:24
Speaker
That's a whole movie made with computers?
00:15:28
Speaker
I got to be a part of that.
00:15:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:15:30
Speaker
So I totally remember going to see that in the theater.
00:15:34
Speaker
I was definitely old enough to see a rated R version of this movie if it was rated R. But I did.
00:15:43
Speaker
I saw it in the theater.
00:15:43
Speaker
I remember liking it.
00:15:45
Speaker
Dude, that's awesome.
00:15:47
Speaker
Even though I was... When did Toy Story 2 come out?
00:15:51
Speaker
99, I think, or 98.
00:15:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:15:54
Speaker
Dude, I was way in college and still went and saw that in the theater.
00:15:58
Speaker
I can remember loving that, too.
00:16:00
Speaker
Well, we just watched Toy Story 4 with Wolf this weekend.
00:16:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:05
Speaker
And my wife was, like, looking over his shoulder.
00:16:07
Speaker
She's like, did you ever see this?
00:16:08
Speaker
I was like, I saw this in theaters.
00:16:10
Speaker
I was, like, 30.
00:16:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:11
Speaker
Or however old I was when that came out.
00:16:14
Speaker
Right.
00:16:14
Speaker
I was up in that.
00:16:15
Speaker
Like, don't... Yeah.
00:16:18
Speaker
Like, like I've been about that life.
00:16:20
Speaker
Don't, don't come asking me.
00:16:22
Speaker
Oh man.
00:16:23
Speaker
I freak.
00:16:24
Speaker
I love Forky.
00:16:25
Speaker
Forky is my jam.
00:16:27
Speaker
I know, dude.
00:16:28
Speaker
You're trash.
00:16:28
Speaker
You're trash.
00:16:29
Speaker
All right.
00:16:32
Speaker
So what'd you rate it?
Rating Toy Story and Its Rewatchability
00:16:34
Speaker
No, no, wait.
00:16:36
Speaker
Before I get your number.
00:16:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:39
Speaker
I have two numbers written down.
00:16:41
Speaker
Okay.
00:16:41
Speaker
I have a number that I rate this movie and then another number that I rate this movie now having seen number two and three.
00:16:49
Speaker
If that makes sense.
00:16:51
Speaker
So am I rating this now, 30 years later, having seen the other ones, or am I rating it based just on this movie individually?
00:16:59
Speaker
Like, cause isn't that what you kind of do?
00:17:01
Speaker
Like when you're rating a movie, say like, well, it's not Star Wars kind of, you know what I'm saying?
00:17:07
Speaker
Like, that's how I'm, I don't know.
00:17:09
Speaker
I think we, I think we usually, I mean, it's up to us to how we rate our movies.
00:17:13
Speaker
I think we typically say that like we're rating them on like, what's our enjoyment level,
00:17:17
Speaker
watching them right now yeah or like what's the for me anyway it's like right if i look through my ratings movies that are tens are like i'll watch that shit absolutely anytime any day right if it finishes and it starts again i'll watch it again watch it again yeah and like eight and above is like happy to freaking watch that anytime and then like right and then like in the sixes i'm like i'd check that out if the mood strikes me but for me it's that's it's like my like that's how how excited am i to watch it number is how i think of it got it so what'd you give this
00:17:47
Speaker
So I gave this a 9.5.
00:17:48
Speaker
Nice.
00:17:48
Speaker
Nice.
00:17:51
Speaker
I don't like it as much as Toy Story 2.
00:17:53
Speaker
I've been saying that for 30 years.
00:17:55
Speaker
Yeah, me too.
00:17:57
Speaker
But watching it, just a bunch, like with my kid and reading the freaking book and doing all the singing, You Got a Friend in Me, like for nonstop.
00:18:05
Speaker
Dude, this movie's so good.
00:18:07
Speaker
And there's very little that I don't like about it.
00:18:10
Speaker
And the fact that a four-year-old and a 45-year-old can both be completely engrossed by a movie.
00:18:16
Speaker
And watch it together, yes.
00:18:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:18
Speaker
And I've seen it 30 times.
00:18:20
Speaker
Dude, that's... It's a good movie.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, and then also factoring in...
00:18:27
Speaker
Like it's basically a four quadrant movie that prints money and wins a bunch of awards and spawns a bunch of sequels.
00:18:33
Speaker
And it's like, that's like, even if I was like, ah, it's okay.
00:18:36
Speaker
I'd have to give it a little nudge just because of that.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah, just because it's amazing and it's everywhere.
00:18:42
Speaker
I mean, we're not to Toy Story 2 yet.
00:18:44
Speaker
That's going to probably be a 10 out of 10.
00:18:45
Speaker
But this was because it's not quite there.
00:18:47
Speaker
I gave it a 9 out of 10, 9.5 out of 10.
00:18:49
Speaker
Turn into the spin, Barbie.
00:18:53
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I gave it a 9.0.
00:18:53
Speaker
Same thing for me.
00:18:55
Speaker
Knowing...
00:18:58
Speaker
How awesome Toy Story 2 is.
00:19:01
Speaker
And I was thinking about that movie while I was watching this one.
00:19:04
Speaker
So I know it's going to be ranked higher.
00:19:07
Speaker
But the whole time I was watching it, I was keeping in mind that this is the first time computer animated for everything.
00:19:12
Speaker
The cast, how awesome it is.
00:19:14
Speaker
It is freaking great.
00:19:18
Speaker
People walking through the room.
00:19:19
Speaker
Cece's walking through the room.
00:19:21
Speaker
She'll stop and watch for a couple seconds before she realizes what she was supposed to be doing.
00:19:25
Speaker
Jake getting all sidetracked while he's trying to do homework because I'm watching it in the living room.
00:19:30
Speaker
Everybody loves these guys.
00:19:34
Speaker
There's no reason to not like it.
00:19:36
Speaker
I can't even imagine somebody like, nah, it's not for me.
00:19:40
Speaker
Well, the only thing I can think of is there's some people who, like my wife, who just, or my wife, just is like, I don't like animated movies.
00:19:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:51
Speaker
And I'm like, that's dumb.
00:19:53
Speaker
But then, like, I'm the same guy who will say right after that, like, I don't like black and white movies.
00:19:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:59
Speaker
And people are like, that's dumb.
00:20:00
Speaker
I'm like, I know, it's dumb.
00:20:01
Speaker
But if I try to watch one, I just go like, this is, I don't want to watch this.
00:20:04
Speaker
I don't like it.
00:20:05
Speaker
It could be better.
00:20:06
Speaker
I've just decided I'm not into it.
00:20:08
Speaker
And yeah, I'm like, why are there so few colors?
00:20:10
Speaker
This is boring.
00:20:14
Speaker
Yeah, but my wife will be like, I don't like animated movies.
00:20:16
Speaker
And she's like, why don't we watch Archer while we're having dinner?
00:20:18
Speaker
I'm like, that's animated.
00:20:20
Speaker
That's different animated.
00:20:23
Speaker
Yes, indeed it is.
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I get that a lot too.
00:20:27
Speaker
Kat doesn't like animated stuff very much.
Favorite Scenes and Cultural References
00:20:32
Speaker
She'll watch these Disney movies and things like that.
00:20:34
Speaker
I put on Archer or Family Guy or Simpsons.
00:20:37
Speaker
She's like, this is dumb.
00:20:38
Speaker
Turn this off.
00:20:40
Speaker
So, yeah, dude, in that book, like, because this is such a ridiculously good movie, trying to come up with scenes and quotes was, and characters.
00:20:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:50
Speaker
Holy hell.
00:20:51
Speaker
That was a rough one.
00:20:53
Speaker
I did narrow it down though.
00:20:54
Speaker
What, what's your first best scene?
00:20:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:56
Speaker
Top three scenes.
00:20:57
Speaker
My first one I had was the, I'm, I'm cramming them together a little bit.
00:21:03
Speaker
The gas station fight.
00:21:06
Speaker
And then the planet.
00:21:08
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:21:09
Speaker
Those are technically different scenes, but they all happen as part of the same, like, sequence.
00:21:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:14
Speaker
Just, like, the whole, like, Woody freaking finds Buzz.
00:21:19
Speaker
He's like, get to you!
00:21:20
Speaker
You're safe!
00:21:21
Speaker
He's, like, cleaning the bug off of his helmet.
00:21:23
Speaker
He's like, we'll just go back.
00:21:24
Speaker
We'll explain to everybody it was an accident.
00:21:27
Speaker
And, dude, and Buzz hits him with a, you know, I don't promote the idea of revenge on my planet.
00:21:32
Speaker
And Woody's like, that's great!
00:21:33
Speaker
That's great!
00:21:33
Speaker
He's like, we're not on my planet.
00:21:35
Speaker
Oh!
00:21:35
Speaker
Oh!
00:21:39
Speaker
Ah, man.
00:21:39
Speaker
And the friggin' Pizza Planet truck has been in every Pixar movie since then, too, by the way.
00:21:44
Speaker
Dude, the Pizza Planet truck.
00:21:45
Speaker
And also that, like, I couldn't make that just one of my scenes with the fact that, negative, Sheriff, there are no restraints in the cargo area.
00:21:55
Speaker
He freaking sits next to the pizza, buckles himself in, and Woody's in the back and is smashed by the toolbox.
00:22:00
Speaker
God.
00:22:01
Speaker
Dude, one of my honorable mentions was when they go to the actual pizza planet and they're in the thing with the claw.
00:22:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:10
Speaker
And I wanted to capture that whole bit, so that may be cheating, but that's the bit.
00:22:15
Speaker
That's nice.
00:22:17
Speaker
Dude, what was the name of the gas station?
00:22:22
Speaker
It's the one from Cars.
00:22:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's like Dyno something.
00:22:26
Speaker
DynaCo, maybe?
00:22:27
Speaker
DynaCo.
00:22:28
Speaker
I think that's what it is.
00:22:29
Speaker
I like how they made that carryover.
00:22:33
Speaker
Dude, my first one was the staff meeting, or whatever you want to call it right in the beginning.
00:22:38
Speaker
Oh, that's great.
00:22:39
Speaker
Where he gets the frigging little microphone.
00:22:41
Speaker
Yeah, the Mr. Microphone.
00:22:43
Speaker
Making him walk closer.
00:22:44
Speaker
Dude, it establishes the world perfectly.
00:22:47
Speaker
It sets up all the different characters.
00:22:52
Speaker
Like, the feature...
00:22:53
Speaker
Etch-a-Sketch is there and the freaking Tinker Toys.
00:22:56
Speaker
And they're talking about all of the thing, like plastic corrosion and battery corrosion and getting a moving partner.
00:23:04
Speaker
And like, dude, I love it.
00:23:07
Speaker
And then that leads right into the recon mission where the army men have to use the old school baby monitor to tell them exactly what the presence were.
00:23:16
Speaker
That's freaking great.
00:23:17
Speaker
And like the army sergeant is voiced by R. Lee Army.
00:23:21
Speaker
The voice cast here is unbelievable.
00:23:22
Speaker
Unbelievable.
00:23:23
Speaker
Dude, the staff meeting is great because what he's doing, he's walking around and he has to keep tugging on the Mr. Microphone so he can waddle over there next to him and he's got the spell.
00:23:34
Speaker
Speaking spell, yeah, yeah.
00:23:36
Speaker
He's like, I thought last week's
00:23:39
Speaker
presentation on plastic corrosion was was i think one of our best ever like just yeah just doing like boring pta meeting shit oh man uh i loved uh i love the whole thing and how he was like standing up on a thing above everybody and making sure and then everybody left when they hurt dude it was great it was great um
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah, I also like how they got, you get to see some of the, because one of my quotes is from that scene, but you get to see all the different characters.
00:24:06
Speaker
And the toys, they licensed a lot of the toys for the movie.
00:24:08
Speaker
Some of them they couldn't.
00:24:09
Speaker
Like they tried to, like Bo Peep, Joss Whedon was trying to make Barbie, but Mattel was like, no, no, you can't have Barbie for that.
00:24:15
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:15
Speaker
And then Barbie's in the second one because Mattel was like, we got to get in this.
00:24:19
Speaker
We got to get part of that.
00:24:20
Speaker
Right, right, right.
00:24:21
Speaker
But then like, but dude, there's even the freaking joke when it's...
00:24:26
Speaker
when Buzz lands there and they're talking like ham and, uh, potato head and Rex are talking to him.
00:24:32
Speaker
I was like, this is quality.
00:24:33
Speaker
Can you try sick?
00:24:33
Speaker
Where are you from?
00:24:34
Speaker
Singapore.
00:24:35
Speaker
He's like, he's like, I'm from Hasbro.
00:24:36
Speaker
He's like, I'm from Mattel.
00:24:38
Speaker
God dang it.
00:24:39
Speaker
That's great writing.
00:24:41
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:24:42
Speaker
It's set.
00:24:42
Speaker
And then Rex is like, actually, I'm not from Mattel.
00:24:44
Speaker
I'm from a small imprint that was made it.
00:24:48
Speaker
It was, it was, it was, it was purchasing a leveraged buyout.
00:24:51
Speaker
Wallace Shawn.
00:24:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:52
Speaker
Wallace Shawn.
00:24:53
Speaker
Ah, so good.
00:24:56
Speaker
Ah, man.
00:24:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:58
Speaker
I don't know how many of the things in this movie were nods to other movies.
00:25:01
Speaker
Like some of them obviously were like there was the toolbox in Sid's room said Benford Tools.
00:25:05
Speaker
That's clearly a nod.
00:25:07
Speaker
One of the books on the shelf in Andy's room is written by Jay Lasseter, who's the guy who writes this, writes and directs this movie.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:16
Speaker
But some of it was like Rex is talking about, what if he gets a dinosaur, a scary dinosaur?
00:25:21
Speaker
I just don't think I could take that kind of rejection.
00:25:24
Speaker
I was like, does that a Back to the Future reference?
00:25:26
Speaker
Dude, CC caught that because we've been watching that.
00:25:29
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that's great.
00:25:32
Speaker
First of all, let me just say, Don Rickles' potato head was genius.
00:25:37
Speaker
But the stuff that he was saying...
00:25:41
Speaker
I just like what's not to love about Don Rickles first potato head and ham John Ratzenberger were just kill me yeah those two with Rex yeah play playing off of the other two oh god it's freaking this whole thing's genius that's why they can keep making more of them because they're so funny I know they're so good I know um what's your what's your second one
00:26:05
Speaker
My second one is when Buzz realizes he's a toy.
00:26:10
Speaker
Buzz and Woody are trapped in Sid's house.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:13
Speaker
And they're planning an escape, and he gets locked in the den with Sid's crappy father who's passed out in front of the TV, and he sees a commercial for Buzz Lightyear, and he realizes that what Woody has been telling him all along is true.
00:26:25
Speaker
He actually is a toy.
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:27
Speaker
And, dude, he just has an existential crisis, and he just melts down.
00:26:30
Speaker
And he tries to fly.
00:26:32
Speaker
He tries to fly.
00:26:33
Speaker
He does not.
00:26:33
Speaker
He crashes.
00:26:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:35
Speaker
And then he's, dude, he's drinking tea and he's missing an arm and he's acting like he's drunk for some reason, but it freaking cracks me up.
00:26:41
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:26:41
Speaker
Mrs. Nesbitt.
00:26:42
Speaker
He was killing it.
00:26:43
Speaker
That was my, that was my third one.
00:26:45
Speaker
Oh, God.
00:26:47
Speaker
That's freaking so funny.
00:26:50
Speaker
Buzz, I could really use a hand.
00:26:51
Speaker
And he fucking throws his arm up there.
00:26:53
Speaker
I just, the whole time was great.
00:26:57
Speaker
Also, I wanted to put that scene in there because when, or right before that, when the Sid's toys start coming out,
00:27:04
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:27:05
Speaker
That is some creepy stuff.
00:27:07
Speaker
I mean... The weird thing watching it with an almost four-year-old is like he's not scared by that.
00:27:13
Speaker
And I'm like, you should be scared by that.
00:27:15
Speaker
That's freaky.
00:27:15
Speaker
You should be scared.
00:27:17
Speaker
But like he doesn't like... I was just about to say, if you're so young that it doesn't scare you, that's good.
00:27:22
Speaker
And if you're so old that it doesn't scare you, that's good.
00:27:24
Speaker
But man, I tell you, there's some 13-year-olds that get freaked out.
00:27:28
Speaker
He doesn't like Scud.
00:27:30
Speaker
And when Scud's like trying to get Buzz and Woody, he's like, I don't like that part.
00:27:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:35
Speaker
But he's fine later on when they chase him.
00:27:36
Speaker
But yeah, dude, it's weird because he'll ask me.
00:27:38
Speaker
He'll be like, we'll be like on the playground.
00:27:40
Speaker
He's like, Papa, are you scared of dinosaurs?
00:27:42
Speaker
I'm like, no, I'm not scared of dinosaurs.
00:27:43
Speaker
He's like, are you scared of like whatever, like kitties?
00:27:46
Speaker
I'm like, no, I'm not scared of kitties.
00:27:47
Speaker
I'm like, I'm scared of like all kinds of stuff.
00:27:49
Speaker
I'm just not scared of those things.
00:27:50
Speaker
So it'll be like, are you scared of?
00:27:51
Speaker
And it'll be like something from a book.
00:27:52
Speaker
I'm like, no, because that's not real.
00:27:54
Speaker
That's not.
00:27:56
Speaker
I'm scared of like you falling on the slide or like, you know, stuff like that.
00:28:03
Speaker
Or like me needing surgery and not having health insurance.
00:28:06
Speaker
I'm scared of those things.
00:28:07
Speaker
I'm not scared of dinosaurs.
00:28:10
Speaker
Although when it's time to watch Jurassic Park, we might come back around on that.
00:28:13
Speaker
We might revisit that.
00:28:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:16
Speaker
Dude, yeah.
00:28:17
Speaker
Mrs. Nesbitt was my second one because Sid's sister's headless dolls and the delirious drunk Mrs. Nesbitt was great.
00:28:28
Speaker
Well, in reading about the movie, it was originally going to be like Woody was going to be like a ventriloquist doll.
00:28:35
Speaker
And then Buzz was going to be a G.I.
00:28:37
Speaker
Joe.
00:28:38
Speaker
And then Hasbro was like, you can't do G.I.
00:28:39
Speaker
Joe.
00:28:39
Speaker
And they're like, fine, we'll just make it something else.
00:28:41
Speaker
And they're like, just make it a space toy.
00:28:43
Speaker
And they're like, God, that ventriloquist doll's getting kind of creepy.
00:28:45
Speaker
And they're like, yeah, of course it is.
00:28:47
Speaker
I can tell you from Toy Story 4, they're super creepy.
00:28:51
Speaker
Yeah, but it just sits there.
00:28:53
Speaker
So they go like, let's make it a cowboy doll.
00:28:54
Speaker
And they're like, oh, that's great.
00:28:55
Speaker
Cause that gives us the cowboy and the spaceman.
00:28:57
Speaker
Like they have like a natural conflict.
00:28:59
Speaker
And then Disney, I think is like, it needs to be like a buddy comedy, make it a buddy comedy and make them totally different.
00:29:05
Speaker
And so they're doing all these rewrites and like, like, oh, make the spaceman like think he's actually a spaceman and not a toy.
00:29:12
Speaker
And then like, that's his conflict.
00:29:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:14
Speaker
Like you can see all this stuff coming around.
00:29:16
Speaker
That's great.
00:29:17
Speaker
God, any one of those things that goes another way, it would have made it a way different, way worse movie.
Alternate Casting Discussion
00:29:22
Speaker
What if we would have had a, if it's going to be a buddy comedy, can we have Woody be Chris Tucker and then Jackie Chan be Buzz Lightyear?
00:29:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:31
Speaker
Just redo that.
00:29:32
Speaker
Johnson.
00:29:34
Speaker
Johnson.
00:29:35
Speaker
Come on, Johnson.
00:29:35
Speaker
Johnson, we're playing.
00:29:36
Speaker
Which one of y'all kicking me?
00:29:39
Speaker
Anybody need me?
00:29:39
Speaker
I'll be working a big case for the FBI.
00:29:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:43
Speaker
Well, little pinky get blown off.
00:29:44
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Everybody tripping.
00:29:45
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Take that bash.
00:29:46
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You have it up your ass.
00:29:48
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Oh, little pinky.
00:29:50
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What's your third scene?
00:29:52
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My third one is when Buzz gets there and he gives a demo and he thinks he's in there and they show from the inside of his...
00:29:59
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uh helmet and you could see the reflection of his face and he's like looking at the readings and he's like tapping the gauges and checking them doesn't seem to be uh breathable air and tells you like anywhere and dude he does the laser and the walk he does with the laser when he's keeping it on woody and he's like squatting down burned into my brain i freaking love it
00:30:21
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The other buzz, the newer buzz in Toy Story 2 that's doing that through the whole thing, he's like doing the military stuff.
00:30:26
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It's freaking genius.
00:30:29
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All that.
00:30:31
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Oh, it's so good.
00:30:32
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So good.
00:30:33
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That's a great one.
00:30:34
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I love that one.
00:30:34
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That's the one we're talking about.
00:30:36
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I'm from Mattel.
00:30:36
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It's like, well, not actually Mattel.
00:30:37
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I'm from a third party company.
00:30:39
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It was purchased as part of a leveraged buyout.
00:30:42
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My third scene is the final chase sequence going from like they rescue Buzz, Sid's toys come back alive, give him the scare of a lifetime, scare him into being a garbage man.
00:30:50
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Yeah.
00:30:51
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And then like Buzz and Woody are chasing down everything.
00:30:55
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They get, because that dude, that, because I was thinking about it when I was watching it this weekend in the movie theater for the nine billionth time.
00:31:02
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Yeah.
00:31:02
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I was like, dude, this, just when Buzz rescued Woody, that could have been the end of the movie.
00:31:06
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But then like, they took it up, they took it up a level.
00:31:09
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Yeah, they took it up.
00:31:09
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And then the dog is chasing them.
00:31:11
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They took it up another level.
00:31:12
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And then Woody goes in and gets RC and RC rescues Buzz.
00:31:15
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They take it up another level.
00:31:16
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Yeah.
00:31:16
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And then Potato Head's like, throw him overboard.
00:31:19
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And they throw Woody out.
00:31:21
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They take it up another level.
00:31:22
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RC's battery dies.
00:31:23
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They take it up another level.
00:31:25
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And I was like, the suspense is killing me.
00:31:29
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It reminded me of the Futurama episode where Calculon was about to deliver a line and then the kid shorted out and Bender was like, whoever's directing this is a master of suspense.
00:31:44
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Oh, man.
00:31:45
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And then he goes to strike the match and the match gets blown out.
00:31:47
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They take it up another level.
00:31:48
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This is insane.
00:31:51
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But I think that's such a satisfying ending to the movie, even though there's one scene after that.
00:31:58
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Yeah, there's always that one little scene that wraps it all up where the mom's sitting out front looking at the thing that carries all the suitcases at the airport on number two.
00:32:07
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She's talking to the neighbor, and she's like, I don't know how this got here.
00:32:10
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It's the toys drove into air.
00:32:13
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That kind of stuff's great.
00:32:16
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Dude, who doesn't love the thing?
00:32:18
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I like he's trying to hold Slinky and Slinky's trying to hold on to him the whole time.
00:32:22
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Yeah, I'm right.
00:32:23
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Tons of suspense.
00:32:24
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I like it.
00:32:24
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That's that's amazing.
00:32:26
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Also, I didn't put it in my scenes, but I got a shout out.
00:32:28
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This is the first animated movie I can ever remember.
00:32:31
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seeing have outtakes in the credits animated outtakes that were so good i mean maybe it's toy story 2 that happens in it is toy story 2 but the but the boom keeps coming in and oh and like yeah because like kelsey grimer's like farting in his box yeah i guess that's why they call me stinky pete story that's toy story 2 put a pin in that for three years but god and he's like shaking hands and he was like oh and you're both twins i see all right
00:32:56
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That's so great.
00:32:57
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Dude, I just, because I remember Woody falling into the role of like masking tape and he's like, you get stuck.
00:33:03
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And then he stands up and hits his head on the boom mic.
00:33:06
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That's great.
00:33:07
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All right.
00:33:08
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That's great.
00:33:09
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Not even from this movie.
00:33:09
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That's how good it was.
00:33:10
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All right.
00:33:10
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Yeah, I know.
00:33:12
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Dude, there's a bunch of really quotable lines.
00:33:14
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There's no like, I'll be back quotable lines, but my top three.
00:33:19
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My first one is from Ham, John Ratzenberger.
00:33:23
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I don't believe that man's ever been to medical school.
00:33:26
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Yes.
00:33:28
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That one always cracks me up.
00:33:29
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I always forget it's coming and it always cracks me up.
00:33:33
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Sid is operating on the toys.
00:33:34
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He puts on a freaking mask and he's like, got out scissors and ham.
00:33:38
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They're washing him through the window.
00:33:39
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God.
00:33:41
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Dude, Rassenberger kills it.
00:33:43
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He's good in all the Pixar movies he's in.
00:33:45
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Yeah.
00:33:45
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Which is all of them.
00:33:46
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Which is all of them.
00:33:47
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Yeah.
00:33:49
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Dude, I felt weird not putting to infinity and beyond.
00:33:55
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I know.
00:33:56
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So I threw that in there as mine because it's like a global catchphrase.
00:34:00
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It's everywhere.
00:34:01
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It's everybody.
00:34:02
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Like if you say to infinity, everybody's going to say and beyond.
00:34:07
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So I threw that as my first one because it's kind of a throwaway because I was having trouble.
00:34:11
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Absolutely.
00:34:11
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I think that's a great call.
00:34:13
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What's your second?
00:34:14
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My second one is Mr. Potato Head is moving his parts around and he's like, look at me.
00:34:21
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I'm a Picasso.
00:34:23
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And they didn't get it and they walked off and he called them uncultured swine.
00:34:28
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I've said that numerous times.
00:34:30
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Every time I say something in school and they don't get it, I just call them uncultured swine under my breath.
00:34:38
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So that's my second one.
00:34:41
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The great thing about that is that that is also my second one because my kid thinks it's hilarious.
00:34:46
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It is hilarious.
00:34:47
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And he'll just say, you uncultured swine.
00:34:51
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And then I say, what are you looking at, you hockey puck?
00:34:56
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And then when I'm researching it, I realize that that line is even more brilliant than I thought.
00:34:59
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Because first of all, Potato Head is actually looking at a hockey puck when he says it.
00:35:03
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Nice.
00:35:03
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Fine.
00:35:04
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But we go even deeper because Don Rickles, who voices Mr. Potato Head, actually used to do that in roast, call people hockey pucks.
00:35:11
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Nice.
00:35:12
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Like it's a nod to a Don Rickles bit.
00:35:14
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I was like, Jesus, it's even smarter than I thought.
00:35:16
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Don Rickles.
00:35:18
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I wish...
00:35:20
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I could watch him and not feel like bad.
00:35:24
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Like he's, I know like it's, you know, like shock comedy and he says stuff like, yeah, it's, it's supposed to make you cringe, but golly.
00:35:34
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Yeah.
00:35:34
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It's brutal watching some of those old things.
00:35:37
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Uh, but I love him in this.
00:35:38
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He killed, and his wife, um, she comes in at the end and she's in number two, Estelle Harris.
00:35:44
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Yeah.
00:35:44
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Estelle Harris.
00:35:45
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Yeah, my wife asked me when we were watching one of the many toy stores.
00:35:48
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She's like, is that the mom from Seinfeld?
00:35:51
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I was like, yeah, that's George's mom.
00:35:52
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It's Estelle Harris.
00:35:53
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Another, again, perfect casting.
00:35:55
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Yeah, Don Rickles is one of the most renowned insult comics of all of our entire lives.
00:36:02
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But he doesn't just insult people like, hey, nice shirt.
00:36:06
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No, no.
00:36:07
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He's dropping racial slurs and is like,
00:36:11
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um i can't tell if you're asian or you're squinting to see me i was like good god man can you say that this wasn't that long ago he was born in like 1926 he was saying all kind of stuff i mean he he died in 2017. yeah but even at like 85 he was still dropping like that but yeah he's uh he's he is a legendary comic
00:36:31
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Yeah, he kills it in this.
Performance Praise and Tom Hanks' Role
00:36:33
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And his mouth is like nine miles wide.
00:36:35
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If you look at a picture of him, it looks like he could eat a taco without ever turning it to the skinny bit.
00:36:41
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Just put it straight in.
00:36:43
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Now that he's dead, I can safely make fun of him because I don't want to catch any of that back.
00:36:46
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It's like Eminem.
00:36:47
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You don't go with Eminem.
00:36:48
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Just keep your mouth shut.
00:36:49
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Eminem, go after his own mama.
00:36:52
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Wait till Eminem's dead too.
00:36:53
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And then you can say all you want.
00:36:55
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I'll say it right now.
00:36:56
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Cause I love Eminem.
00:36:57
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I got nothing to say about him.
00:36:58
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But yeah, that's my, that's my third one.
00:37:00
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What are you looking at?
00:37:00
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You hockey puck?
00:37:02
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Nice.
00:37:04
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I put Buzz where he says, you're a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
00:37:11
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I looked at that one.
00:37:12
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I love that one.
00:37:15
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Number two, I'm going to need 40 quotes, but in the meantime, that's my three.
00:37:23
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All right.
00:37:24
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Best three characters.
00:37:24
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Who's number one?
00:37:27
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I got to go with Tom Hanks and Woody.
00:37:29
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Yeah, man.
00:37:29
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Woody.
00:37:30
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Woody.
00:37:32
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He goes from great character arc from jealousy to insecurity to friendship, teaches kids selflessness, all of that stuff.
00:37:45
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And he's super good at what he does.
00:37:47
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He's a great voice actor.
00:37:49
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Yeah, man.
00:37:50
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He is incredible.
00:37:51
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And we've talked about it before because we've done a bunch of Tom Hanks movies, but we're in the middle of a run.
00:37:58
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You can make some arguments.
00:37:59
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Like Jim Carrey doing Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, and The Mask back to back to back in the same year is pretty well untouchable.
00:38:07
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But Tom Hanks...
00:38:09
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Like, 92, Radio Flyer, League of Their Own.
00:38:11
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93, Sleepless in Seattle, Philadelphia, best actor.
00:38:15
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Yeah.
00:38:15
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94, Forrest Gump, best actor, again.
00:38:18
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Yeah.
00:38:18
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95, Apollo 13 in Toy Story.
00:38:20
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Yeah.
00:38:21
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96, That Thing You Do, which he also writes and directs.
00:38:23
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Yeah.
00:38:24
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Like, dude, takes 97 off.
00:38:26
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Well deserved.
00:38:27
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But 92 to 96 is ridiculous.
00:38:27
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Yeah.
00:38:30
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Yeah, now he kills it.
00:38:31
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Here's my question, though.
00:38:32
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It's two Academy Awards, writing and directing, and two Best Actor Oscars, and like a couple billion dollars in box office.
00:38:39
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Yeah, he's good at what he does.
00:38:43
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When you look at Woody...
00:38:45
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And you think about it, you know it's Tom Hanks.
00:38:47
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But do you picture Tom Hanks when you're watching this one?
00:38:50
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Because that's how I feel like he's a good actor.
00:38:53
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I say that all the time.
00:38:53
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The reason that he's my favorite actor is that I've seen him in freaking 60 movies and I never think like, hey, look, there's Tom Hanks.
00:38:59
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I'm always like, that's the castaway guy.
00:39:02
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Or like, that's Woody or that's Jimmy Dugan.
00:39:04
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I never think, like, he just disappears into a role.
00:39:07
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Meanwhile, I'm like, hey, look, there's Tom Cruise as a pilot.
00:39:10
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There's Tom Cruise as a drug smuggler.
00:39:11
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There's Tom Cruise fighting aliens.
00:39:14
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Like, I never think that he, I don't even remember the names of any of the characters.
00:39:17
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I'm like, it's Tom Cruise.
00:39:17
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He's a lawyer in this one.
00:39:20
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Tom Cruise the lawyer.
00:39:21
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Yeah.
00:39:21
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Keanu Dracula.
00:39:23
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Yeah.
00:39:23
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Nothing against Tom Cruise.
00:39:24
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He makes a movie.
00:39:25
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I go watch it.
00:39:25
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But I'm saying like he doesn't disappear into a role.
00:39:28
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That's fucking Tom Cruise right there.
00:39:29
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Yeah.
00:39:30
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But Tom Hanks is always whoever he's playing.
00:39:33
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Killing it.
00:39:34
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Yeah.
00:39:35
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I picked Woody first.
00:39:36
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Who's your second?
00:39:37
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I had to give it to Tim Allen.
00:39:39
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Yeah.
00:39:39
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I did too.
00:39:40
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I would not have picked him, but he's such a good buzz and it's such a good counterpoint for Woody.
00:39:44
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And also, I mean, we've talked about this before.
00:39:47
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If you need someone to spout off like jargon, Dan Aykroyd's your number one pick.
00:39:51
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But I think Tim Allen could be in the mix because he's great at that.
00:39:57
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Like when he's trying to fix his freaking cardboard box space shuttle and he's asking for the scotch tape, whatever word he's like.
00:40:02
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Yeah.
00:40:03
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I got it.
00:40:04
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But whatever the word it was, it's freaking cracking me up.
00:40:07
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I like his straight, no nonsense, like, I don't want to say military, but that's kind of what it sounds like.
00:40:15
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Like, he sounds like a police officer when he's doing his thing, and that's what he was supposed to be, and he kills it.
00:40:21
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Yeah.
00:40:23
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Which is way different than what it is on Home Improvement.
00:40:27
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Yeah.
00:40:28
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No, and dude, I like in Toy Story 2, they give another home improvement nod.
00:40:32
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He's like walking the aisles of Buzz Lightyear's, and he's got the tool belt, and he's like, oh, got to get one of those.
00:40:37
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I need one of those.
00:40:41
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Oh, standard issues.
00:40:42
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They're standard issues, Slotted Pig.
00:40:44
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Oh, man.
00:40:47
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The third character was the hardest to pick because the whole supporting cast is absolutely, like Don Rickles is Potato Head, Jim Varney is Slinky Dog, Wallace Shawn is Rex, John Ratzenberger is Ham, Annie Potts is Bo Peep, Laurie Metcalf is Andy's mom, Arlie Ermey is the sergeant.
00:41:04
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Everybody is crushing it.
00:41:07
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Everybody's good.
00:41:07
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Even in the newer ones when they're adding more people, they're only picking bangers.
00:41:12
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Like everybody's good in all the things.
00:41:14
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Dude, I went with Potato Head because I could not do Don Rickles.
00:41:18
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Potato Head and Ham are my favorites.
00:41:22
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And so I went with Ham.
00:41:23
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So I'm glad we got both of them captured.
00:41:25
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Nice.
00:41:25
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And the only reason is because I actually think Potato Head, the character, is kind of a dick.
00:41:30
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He's kind of.
00:41:32
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He's not.
00:41:34
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He is in favor of the death penalty.
00:41:37
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Like he thinks Woody knocked Buzz out of the window and he's like, get him.
00:41:41
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And I was like, dude, that's your homie right there where you can't just listen to his side for a minute.
00:41:45
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And he's like throwing him out of the back of a moving truck.
00:41:47
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I was like, did nobody look to see that Buzz is on RC?
00:41:50
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So I'm like, Potato Head would have been a terrible leader of the room.
00:41:56
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He was an autocrat.
00:41:59
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No, he definitely was.
00:42:00
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He was, he just wanted to be more equal.
00:42:02
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The, um, the other thing I wanted to ask is, does your kid know about like, um, what's the red thing with the clicky, the viewfinder thing?
00:42:13
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He does not know about that.
00:42:14
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CC knows about it because Jake got one, one time for Christmas and we still had it.
00:42:19
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So like those kinds of things, like I was wondering, like,
00:42:23
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Cece knows about a slinky, but like... Not only that, he doesn't know about a piggy bank because he doesn't know about coins.
00:42:29
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He's never seen money.
00:42:31
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Yeah, yeah.
00:42:32
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Like the only time he sees money is if my parents come to visit and my dad hands him metal circles and he throws them in the water.
00:42:38
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He has no idea that you can exchange that for goods and services.
00:42:41
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Right.
00:42:41
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Yeah.
Perception of Older Toys by Modern Children
00:42:42
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He doesn't realize it's money.
00:42:44
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Like he found a, he found a quarter.
00:42:45
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He's like, look, I found a coin.
00:42:47
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And then like, we watched like a, this trash truck show on Netflix and he like went to a little like gumball machine and like twisted it and got a little prize.
00:42:54
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He's like, let's take it and get a prize.
00:42:55
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It's like, all right, let me do some research about where the hell we can spend a quarter.
00:42:59
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And I,
00:43:00
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So I found out some places we could go.
00:43:02
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And so we go to the mall and we go walking past all the freaking cell phone booths and like whatever.
00:43:07
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And I'm like, here, look, this is, there's all these, some of them have candy.
00:43:10
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Some of them have like little prizes.
00:43:11
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Yeah.
00:43:11
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And he's like, puts this thing in there.
00:43:12
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He tries to turn it.
00:43:13
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Nothing happens.
00:43:14
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75 cents.
00:43:15
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They're 75 cents.
00:43:17
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What do you get a watch?
00:43:18
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Like, how do you, what's the prize?
00:43:22
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So that was a great thing.
00:43:23
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I procured two more quarters and he, I talked him through it and then he like twisted the, there was like one that was like treasures, like random treasures, little tiny, like smaller than a golf ball, crappy little janky plastic things.
00:43:34
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He turns it, the thing pops out, he grabs it and it's a little green dinosaur and a little plastic case.
00:43:39
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He's like, yeah, I don't want, I don't want this.
00:43:41
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I want a different one.
00:43:43
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Yeah.
00:43:43
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You just learned a valuable lesson about why this is dumb.
00:43:47
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This is so dumb.
00:43:48
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Did it come in the little Jetsons clear plastic bubble?
00:43:52
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It did, but it's tiny.
00:43:54
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Oh, nice.
00:43:54
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But then like 20 minutes later, he decided he actually loved it, and he's been looking for coins ever since to go back and get more.
00:44:00
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I'm strong.
00:44:02
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He didn't know even what metal circles were as far as money is concerned.
00:44:07
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That's freaking great.
00:44:08
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yeah i was reading about piggy bank no dude i was reading about the toy stories like bringing in the toys like some of these toys were no longer in production like slinky they don't make that anymore and so they had to like design it for the movie because then they're trying to do toy tie-ins they're like some of this shit we still make and some of the shit we don't make anymore we don't make it at all you're right um does he have a slinky has he played with a slinky before
00:44:30
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No, but he does have a Mr. Potato Head, which he's a big fan of.
00:44:33
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Nice.
00:44:34
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Mine's Darth Vader Potato Head.
00:44:35
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I don't know where I got it, but it's great.
00:44:39
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Yeah, good characters.
00:44:40
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What about director, John Lasseter?
00:44:45
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John Lasseter is one of the... So he was the chief creative officer at Pixar when it was him and Steve Jobs and six more people.
00:44:52
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Yeah.
00:44:53
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and they were working on short stories.
00:44:54
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He won a, no, they were working on shorts, uh, short films.
00:44:57
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He won an Academy Award in the 80s for one of the animated shorts.
00:45:02
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Yeah.
00:45:02
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And, and then they wanted to start doing, uh, features and they were like, let's partner up with Disney because we don't have the money.
00:45:09
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And Disney's like, we don't like, if Disney makes a movie, we make a movie here.
00:45:12
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Like you don't get to say like a Disney movie over at your house.
00:45:16
Speaker
Right.
00:45:16
Speaker
Right.
00:45:17
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I made, but Disney really wanted to work with John Lasseter.
00:45:20
Speaker
And so they eventually ended up making it work.
00:45:22
Speaker
Um,
00:45:24
Speaker
So he's involved in the story and he's doing the direction and he's the Pixar guy, but then they hired a whole bunch of different writers.
00:45:30
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Yeah.
00:45:31
Speaker
I was going to say, wasn't he, didn't he like animate in one of the movies early?
00:45:37
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Oh man.
00:45:38
Speaker
I want to say, I can't remember where I read it.
00:45:40
Speaker
Fox and the Hound maybe?
00:45:42
Speaker
Well, he worked as an animator for Disney.
00:45:45
Speaker
Disney.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:46
Speaker
But then he got fired from Disney Animation because he was trying to tell them like, hey, if we do computer animation, it's going to be the way of the future.
00:45:52
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And they're like, there's the door.
00:45:53
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Don't let it hit you on the way out.
00:45:55
Speaker
And then he went away and won an Academy Award and started Pixar.
00:45:59
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And they're like, hey, we changed our mind.
00:46:00
Speaker
Please come back.
00:46:02
Speaker
We went back in.
00:46:02
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Yeah, yeah.
00:46:06
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Yeah, dude.
00:46:06
Speaker
Toy Story, Bugs Life, Toy Story 2.
00:46:09
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He does all of those.
00:46:11
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He directs all of those.
00:46:12
Speaker
He directs Cars and Cars 2.
00:46:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:15
Speaker
Or as we call it around here, Doc Hollywood.
00:46:20
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Dude, it's...
00:46:22
Speaker
He's pretty, he's pretty, uh, got his hands in a lot of stuff.
00:46:26
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Executive producer on almost all the rest of the Pixar stuff.
00:46:30
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Monsters Inc.
00:46:31
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and Finding Nemo, Incaribles, Ratatouille, Wally, stuff like that.
00:46:36
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Speaking of his hands in a lot of stuff, he, uh, took a six month leave of absence in 2017 because he had, uh, been accused of sexual misconduct by a handful of employees over multiple years.
John Lasseter's Influence and Challenges Faced
00:46:48
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Handful.
00:46:49
Speaker
That's a lot.
00:46:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:50
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't say specific.
00:46:51
Speaker
It just says alleged sexual misconduct towards multiple employees over a number of years that included grabbing, kissing, and making comments about physical attributes.
00:46:59
Speaker
Nice.
00:47:00
Speaker
Don't look like you don't like it, Jiggles.
00:47:03
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The behavior was alleged to have been so well known that according to Variety, at various times Pixar had minders who were tasked with reining in his impulses.
00:47:11
Speaker
Good Lord.
00:47:12
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:47:15
Speaker
If you're curious what it's like being around a powerful white man, it's not that much fun.
00:47:22
Speaker
Do you remember that Malibu Stacy episode?
00:47:25
Speaker
Where Malibu Stacy said some crazy stuff and Lisa wanted to go in and fix it on The Simpsons?
00:47:30
Speaker
and then the guy was like hey jiggles don't act like you don't like it back them beautiful buns in here let's have this meeting um that's what all of it's like apparently uh once you hit a certain uh once you hit a certain level of power and money seems to be the way to go um dude a few writers here uh joss wheaton
00:47:55
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um joel cohen andrew stanton all of these guys um there was another guy um that i didn't remember so close so close alex so close i never heard of him but the other guys i've heard of um he did like uh money talks and cheaper by the dozen he works with joel cohen i think he's a writing partner money talks same time man i don't know you time man i don't know you
00:48:21
Speaker
Oh man.
00:48:22
Speaker
I hit people with that all the time.
00:48:23
Speaker
They don't know what I'm talking about.
00:48:25
Speaker
Nobody knows what that's from.
00:48:26
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Um, uh, yeah, dude, I, we've already talked about Joss Whedon numerous times on here, how he'd like punches up movies and fixes them.
00:48:37
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Yeah.
00:48:37
Speaker
And, uh, does, does the magic.
00:48:40
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Uh, he, he's killer.
00:48:41
Speaker
He does a lot of stuff.
00:48:43
Speaker
He's good at stuff.
00:48:44
Speaker
Also not nice to people apparently.
00:48:46
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Got a lot of accusations floating around him.
00:48:49
Speaker
I don't know.
00:48:49
Speaker
I mean I guess we should just probably start saying when someone who's done a bunch of great things professionally isn't actually a jerk who sexually harasses people.
00:48:58
Speaker
Because so far it seems like kind of everyone.
00:49:01
Speaker
Tom Hanks noted, not jerk.
00:49:03
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He's not sexually harassing anybody.
00:49:05
Speaker
Although he does like typewriters, and that's weird.
00:49:08
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It is weird.
00:49:09
Speaker
But he can have it.
00:49:11
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He's Tom Hanks.
00:49:12
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It could have been way worse.
00:49:14
Speaker
It could have been.
00:49:15
Speaker
There was a bunch of production stuff and casting what-ifs I thought maybe we'd hit here.
00:49:18
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Yeah, hit him up.
00:49:19
Speaker
So the production thing was like – so they had this incident during production that was called Black Friday.
00:49:26
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Oh, yeah.
00:49:27
Speaker
And so they screened, like, the first half of the movie for Disney people two years before it's released in 93.
00:49:35
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Yeah.
00:49:36
Speaker
And they said it was so bad that Disney's head of features, Peter Schneider, just, like, shut down production.
00:49:41
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Yeah.
00:49:43
Speaker
And then Disney was asking why...
00:49:46
Speaker
Everything was so bad, and then the Pixar guy was like, because it's not the movie they wanted to make anymore.
00:49:51
Speaker
You guys are trying to make him make a different movie than he wants to make, and it's not good because it's not the movie he wanted to make.
00:49:56
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Right.
00:49:56
Speaker
And then so John Lasseter's story was filled with unhappy, mean characters, and so they sent the movie back to Pixar for rewrites.
00:50:04
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Right.
00:50:05
Speaker
And they just took the animators and they just worked on commercials while the writers worked on a new script.
00:50:10
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That was a good call.
00:50:12
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But that took like three months, and I think that was when Joss Whedon came in.
00:50:16
Speaker
But, like, there's just another moment where this thing almost didn't happen.
00:50:21
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Yeah.
00:50:22
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And then all the computer animation stuff said, like...
00:50:25
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It took 800,000 machine hours and they could render 30 seconds of the movie a day.
00:50:32
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That's how much.
00:50:33
Speaker
And they were like renting freaking like huge like computers to do this.
00:50:38
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I wonder what the electric bill would have been because, you know, those are like filling up a room with computers.
00:50:46
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That's crazy.
00:50:49
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But then I was trying to find the casting stuff, especially the people that read for Buzz.
00:50:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:50:56
Speaker
No, there's a ton.
00:50:58
Speaker
I saw that list.
00:51:00
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Oh, wait.
00:51:01
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So first it's the Tom Hanks.
00:51:04
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So...
00:51:07
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They considered Paul Newman, who eventually ends up doing Cars.
00:51:10
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They considered Robin Williams and Clint Eastwood.
00:51:12
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But John Lasseter always wanted it to be Tom Hanks.
00:51:14
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And they did the thing that they didn't used to do that now they do all the time, which is like if you want an actor to play an animated role, you take something of his that already exists and you animate that.
00:51:23
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Animate that.
00:51:24
Speaker
And didn't they do A League of Their Own?
00:51:26
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No, they animated Turner and Hooch.
00:51:27
Speaker
But they did say they specifically liked his character in A League of Their Own.
00:51:32
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Even when he's a jerk, you still like him.
00:51:35
Speaker
Still lovable, right.
00:51:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:37
Speaker
I remember reading about them animating something.
00:51:40
Speaker
That's cool.
00:51:42
Speaker
That's a good way to see if it would work.
00:51:44
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Yeah, that's freaking great.
00:51:46
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Well, they did, and they wanted Billy Crystal to do Buzz, and they animated something from When Harry Met Sally.
00:51:52
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Nice.
00:51:53
Speaker
Awesome.
00:51:54
Speaker
Is that still out there?
00:51:55
Speaker
I got to go find this.
00:51:56
Speaker
I wonder if I can watch it.
00:51:56
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:51:57
Speaker
I want to see that.
00:51:58
Speaker
I don't know if that's even available in the world, but I'm super interested.
00:52:03
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But then they also talked to Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, Jim Carrey, Jason Alexander, Dan Aykroyd, Matthew Broderick, Kevin Costner, Michael J. Fox, Richard Gere, David Hasselhoff, Michael Keaton, Wayne Knight, Bill Paxton, Dennis Quaid, Kurt Russell, Adam Sandler, John Travolta.
00:52:16
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That's the list of names they considered for Buzz.
00:52:19
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:21
Speaker
Um...
00:52:25
Speaker
I think I just found the Billy Crystal.
00:52:28
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Nice.
00:52:30
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:52:31
Speaker
Oh, man, you can find it.
00:52:32
Speaker
Just look it up.
00:52:33
Speaker
You would love it.
00:52:34
Speaker
All right, I'm going to check that out.
00:52:35
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One casting what if I actually think is really interesting is before they cast Wallace Shawn as Rex, they considered Rick Moranis.
00:52:44
Speaker
Oh, that would have been... And this is during the time when he's not acting, but Rick Moranis is like a can't-miss for me.
00:52:50
Speaker
Same, but I can see Wallace Shawn and Rick Moranis playing the same type of...
00:52:56
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Yeah, man.
00:52:56
Speaker
Like I could, oh man, that's great.
00:52:58
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Either one of those guys would have been great.
00:53:03
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Yeah, dude.
00:53:04
Speaker
Good stuff.
00:53:04
Speaker
Any other, any other good?
00:53:06
Speaker
The only other thing I found that I thought was interesting was that Pixar, Steve Jobs is doing Pixar.
00:53:12
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John Lasseter's the creative officer and they're like basically hemorrhaging money.
00:53:15
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They've not made anything that's made any money.
00:53:17
Speaker
And so this movie is their chance to either make money or Steve Jobs is thinking about selling the company to like Hallmark or somebody just for the animation technology.
00:53:24
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Yeah.
Steve Jobs' Role and Randy Newman's Music
00:53:25
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Yeah.
00:53:25
Speaker
And like the movie, the pre-production and production takes so, it takes years and there's all these rewrites and there's shutdowns and there's firings and there's like, he's like, dude, I think we might be screwed.
00:53:35
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We might just have to sell this thing.
00:53:36
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But then by the time they get to where they're looking at rough cuts, he starts to go, I actually think this movie is going to do really well.
00:53:42
Speaker
And so Steve Jobs decides to do the Pixar IPO the week after Toy Story releases.
00:53:47
Speaker
And he's like, if the movie does well, the IPO will go well.
00:53:50
Speaker
right movie opens huge and then the ipo makes so much money that it's it gets a 1.5 billion dollar valuation pixar doesn't make steve jobs a billionaire for the first time that's great that that bet on toy story and pixar the week after the movie releases that's awesome yeah so i thought that was uh pretty cool i'm almost never a fan of billionaires and i'm not in favor of billionaires in general as a thing that exists yeah but i thought that was an interesting bit of trivia
00:54:15
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Yeah, no, that's cool how he bet on it and he knew it was going to be good.
00:54:20
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Yeah.
00:54:21
Speaker
Maybe it's because Randy Newman sang the songs.
00:54:24
Speaker
How do you feel?
00:54:25
Speaker
Like, I like Randy Newman, but I don't like all of Randy Newman.
00:54:31
Speaker
I think Randy Newman is like Lori Petty because I was watching League of Their Own again because why not?
00:54:38
Speaker
And I was like, man, if you get Lori Petty in the right thing, she's awesome.
00:54:42
Speaker
But you don't want her in everything.
00:54:44
Speaker
No.
00:54:45
Speaker
I'm like, Randy Newman, you got to pick and choose your moments.
00:54:47
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He's perfect for this.
00:54:48
Speaker
But if you go like, dude, Randy Newman's playing a two-hour set.
00:54:51
Speaker
You want to go?
00:54:51
Speaker
I'm like, no.
00:54:53
Speaker
Unless it's two hours of short people.
00:54:56
Speaker
Short people, God.
00:55:00
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I can see why people don't like him, but I think he killed it in this.
00:55:04
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He's great in this.
00:55:05
Speaker
And then my other favorite Randy Newman moment, which is how you can tell I'm not a real fan, is him on Family Guy.
00:55:11
Speaker
Take a bite.
00:55:12
Speaker
No, wait.
00:55:15
Speaker
Wipe it on the shirt.
00:55:18
Speaker
I like how they went full Randy Newman, too.
00:55:20
Speaker
They're like, rub it on the shirt.
00:55:24
Speaker
Ah, that's great.
00:55:25
Speaker
I did see him in concert at Jazz Fest.
00:55:27
Speaker
He wasn't that bad, but he did a lot of covers.
00:55:29
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Yeah.
00:55:31
Speaker
Dude, I'm not saying Randy Newman's bad.
00:55:32
Speaker
I'm just saying, like, I don't know.
00:55:34
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:34
Speaker
That's kind of like when people are like, hey, dude, En Vogue's coming to town.
00:55:38
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They're going to play 90 Minutes.
00:55:39
Speaker
You want to see that?
00:55:40
Speaker
I'm like, no.
00:55:41
Speaker
Can I pick five songs?
00:55:42
Speaker
I know.
00:55:43
Speaker
I know.
00:55:43
Speaker
Four songs I like.
00:55:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:45
Speaker
Three of them I could skip.
00:55:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:48
Speaker
I only know three REM songs and guess what?
00:55:50
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I don't like two of them.
00:55:51
Speaker
I'm not cool.
00:55:54
Speaker
Eek, eek.
00:55:55
Speaker
It's my turn.
00:55:55
Speaker
Let's go.
00:55:57
Speaker
I don't have any worst.
00:55:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:59
Speaker
I was going to say, I just want to mention it's still creepy when the baby head spider thing comes crawling out.
00:56:07
Speaker
Creepy, creepy, super creepy.
00:56:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:12
Speaker
Did you have old tech?
00:56:14
Speaker
I saw a corded phone.
00:56:15
Speaker
I hadn't seen one of those in a while.
00:56:16
Speaker
I wanted to mention that.
00:56:18
Speaker
Corded phone.
00:56:20
Speaker
I mean, some of the toys themselves are old tech.
00:56:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:24
Speaker
I was trying to think of like... Does he have an edge sketch?
00:56:27
Speaker
Does he have an edge sketch?
00:56:29
Speaker
No.
00:56:29
Speaker
Does Wolf have one?
00:56:30
Speaker
No.
00:56:30
Speaker
He does not.
00:56:31
Speaker
He's never seen one.
00:56:32
Speaker
I was trying to think about like... Because I have a kid that's growing up.
00:56:38
Speaker
I'm like, is his...
00:56:39
Speaker
childhood going to be like this where he just takes toys and cardboard boxes and makes up scenes and does that?
00:56:44
Speaker
It kind of is now because he doesn't have... He has no digital device or access to TV other than when we watch something with him.
00:56:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:53
Speaker
But I'm like, man, by the time Toy Story 2 comes around and they're playing a Super NES, I'm like, when gaming systems get into the mix, his life is going to start to diverge from the Toy Story, from Andy's life pretty rapidly.
00:57:05
Speaker
But that's... Dude, there's a whole...
00:57:09
Speaker
It's a Christmas toy story that Time Forgot or something.
00:57:12
Speaker
It's a short that they made for Christmas.
00:57:14
Speaker
And it's about playing with the toys or playing video games.
00:57:20
Speaker
That's freaking great.
00:57:23
Speaker
Yeah, so that's kind of some old techies, like childhood from the 90s.
00:57:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:28
Speaker
Like Sid in the backyard.
00:57:29
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Every time before.
00:57:30
Speaker
Sid's ordering freaking explosives.
00:57:32
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They get delivered to his house.
00:57:34
Speaker
His room is full of tools and vices and shit.
00:57:37
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Yeah.
00:57:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:40
Speaker
Ah, it's creepy.
00:57:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:42
Speaker
All right.
00:57:42
Speaker
Five questions.
00:57:42
Speaker
Is it okay for kids?
00:57:45
Speaker
Yes.
00:57:45
Speaker
Except for those mutant toys at the end.
00:57:46
Speaker
I'd like to reiterate because that is creepy.
00:57:49
Speaker
It's just the music.
00:57:50
Speaker
The whole part's creepy.
00:57:52
Speaker
But yes, it's rated G. It's rated G. And Wolf, from age like two and a half on, has loved this movie.
00:57:59
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Of course.
00:57:59
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Of course.
00:58:00
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Everybody does.
00:58:02
Speaker
Would it get made if it were pitched now?
00:58:03
Speaker
They are working on number five.
00:58:05
Speaker
So, yes.
00:58:06
Speaker
They're going to make more.
00:58:07
Speaker
As long as all these guys are still alive, they'll make more.
00:58:11
Speaker
Because even Jim Varney's not with us, but Slinky Dog's still in there because they got a guy who likes to see homos naked.
00:58:18
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:19
Speaker
What's that guy's name?
00:58:20
Speaker
The homo you make it.
00:58:21
Speaker
That guy.
00:58:22
Speaker
Yeah, the Adam Sandler guy that's always in those movies.
00:58:25
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:58:25
Speaker
I think because I've been saying like Toy Story is great.
00:58:30
Speaker
Toy Story 2 is one of the best movies ever made.
00:58:32
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And Toy Story 3 and 4, they're fine.
00:58:34
Speaker
But having watched all of them again recently, I'm like, dude, even Toy Story 3 and 4 are better than I gave them credit for.
00:58:39
Speaker
It's just been watching when I was a kid.
00:58:40
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Yeah, 3 is really good.
00:58:41
Speaker
4 I haven't seen but like once or twice.
00:58:44
Speaker
But dude, number 3 is still good too.
00:58:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:46
Speaker
Like it's really good.
00:58:48
Speaker
They're still doing really high quality Toy Story sequels.
00:58:53
Speaker
They're not as impactful to me because I'm no longer a kid, but they're still great.
00:58:56
Speaker
And they look a whole lot better too.
00:58:58
Speaker
You can tell they're getting so good.
00:59:01
Speaker
We watched Toy Story in theaters and then came home and turned on Toy Story 4 before Wolf went to bed.
00:59:06
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And I was like, dude, the animation.
00:59:08
Speaker
I mean, it's almost 30 years.
00:59:09
Speaker
It's incredible how much has happened.
Lasting Appeal of Toy Story
00:59:14
Speaker
Movie or TV show?
00:59:15
Speaker
Movies.
00:59:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's got to be movies.
00:59:17
Speaker
Although I do like the shorts.
00:59:19
Speaker
I'm going to check them out.
00:59:20
Speaker
I didn't know there were that many of them, but I'm going to, I'm going to get, I'm going to get in on those.
00:59:23
Speaker
Dude, does your kid like bath time?
00:59:25
Speaker
Show him party source Rex.
00:59:27
Speaker
Well, we have like some toy story books and on the back of the books, they'll say like, here's some other books you might like.
00:59:32
Speaker
And one of them is party source Rex.
00:59:34
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I thought that was just like a book, but Wolf will just, if it's something he doesn't have, I'll just be like, can we get that?
00:59:38
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And I'm like, just take it easy.
00:59:40
Speaker
I get a job.
00:59:41
Speaker
Uh,
00:59:42
Speaker
So I knew that that existed, but I didn't realize it was a short.
00:59:44
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I'm going to, I'm going to definitely check that out.
00:59:46
Speaker
That was the, the one about Hawaii, the one about party source Rex and dude, there is one where tiny little buzz comes home, uh, because she takes him and he's a toy and a happy meal.
00:59:57
Speaker
Oh my God.
00:59:59
Speaker
You got to watch him.
01:00:00
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Yeah.
01:00:00
Speaker
I got him.
01:00:01
Speaker
I got him already lined up.
01:00:03
Speaker
What, uh, did you read cast anything?
01:00:06
Speaker
Dude, how do you recast this?
01:00:09
Speaker
I can't recast the movie they're still making with the original cast.
01:00:11
Speaker
I'm not even going to attempt.
01:00:12
Speaker
Yeah, I couldn't come up with anybody.
01:00:15
Speaker
Who played Buzz in the Lightyear movie?
01:00:17
Speaker
Was that Chris Evans?
01:00:18
Speaker
It was Chris Evans.
01:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, I don't want him.
01:00:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:21
Speaker
I don't want that.
01:00:23
Speaker
Tim Allen's still out there doing work.
01:00:25
Speaker
Yeah, he's doing it.
01:00:26
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:28
Speaker
So can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2025?
01:00:30
Speaker
Yeah, man.
01:00:32
Speaker
It's amazing.
01:00:33
Speaker
It's incredible.
01:00:34
Speaker
It's freaking timeless.
01:00:35
Speaker
heartfelt, it's funny, it's way good.
01:00:38
Speaker
The animation shows its age, just like we talked about, but man, it's... Dude, it does, but it's not like... Because I watched the... I was mentioning in Discord, because I was talking with Discord people about Quicken the Dead versus...
01:00:55
Speaker
Spider-Man, Sam Raimi, I was trying to see if all the crash zooms and smash cuts were in Spider-Man.
01:01:02
Speaker
And the animation in Spider-Man, which is from 2001, the CGI there is much more noticeably dated than Toy Story from seven years prior to that because the whole thing is animated.
01:01:12
Speaker
In Spider-Man, it's live action, but then there's an animated Spider-Man climbing up a wall.
01:01:17
Speaker
That looks like a video game now.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:19
Speaker
So, like, it is dated, but, like, it actually still looks great.
01:01:23
Speaker
It's like the original Star Wars trilogy because it's done, like, a lot of it's practical.
01:01:29
Speaker
Like, you can tell, like, shit still looks amazing.
01:01:31
Speaker
And the prequels from 2001, it's like, that doesn't look that great anymore.
01:01:35
Speaker
Yeah, it looks bad.
01:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, I'm with you.
01:01:39
Speaker
Where can you find it?
01:01:40
Speaker
It's Disney, so it's on Disney+.
01:01:42
Speaker
And you cannot find it anywhere else?
01:01:44
Speaker
I can't remember.
01:01:45
Speaker
What did we say?
01:01:46
Speaker
What were we looking at for our next episode?
01:01:50
Speaker
Did we say?
01:01:51
Speaker
We didn't, but last week we were talking about a couple of... We had a couple ideas.
01:01:57
Speaker
I'm down for literally whatever you want.
01:01:59
Speaker
I like...
01:02:02
Speaker
Did we decide we were going to do like seven and movies like that?
01:02:06
Speaker
Or you want to hold out and do that one during Halloween?
01:02:09
Speaker
Cause that one's kind of freaky.
Discussion on Other Movies and Podcast Sign-off
01:02:11
Speaker
Seven is kind of freaky.
01:02:13
Speaker
Um, I don't like it that much, but I think it's an important enough movie that we probably should do it.
01:02:17
Speaker
I'm trying to think there's a couple that aren't high on the list, but like, dude, we have to figure out like, are we going to do like Ace Ventura when nature calls?
01:02:24
Speaker
Uh, cause I really liked that movie, but we're, we're going to run out of time.
01:02:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
01:02:29
Speaker
Dude, I love that movie also.
01:02:32
Speaker
That's number 13 by Gross on the year, so it's a pretty big movie.
01:02:37
Speaker
Yeah, and like Showgirls is in 95.
01:02:39
Speaker
I don't care about that one.
01:02:40
Speaker
If we were doing this full time, we were doing 50 movies, we'd hit that one.
01:02:43
Speaker
yeah yeah um desperado's in there leaving las vegas i know this virtuosity like we talked about last time what's what's his name yeah house guest russell russell acro dude casino is like casino super super long but it's like de niro sharon stone joe pesci directed by martin scorsese yeah we can do casino if you want to do casino let's do it
01:03:11
Speaker
We'll talk about it offline.
01:03:13
Speaker
We'll let you guys know.
01:03:15
Speaker
To be determined.
01:03:17
Speaker
We got some deciding to do.
01:03:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:22
Speaker
What else?
01:03:22
Speaker
Anything else about Toy Story?
01:03:25
Speaker
Negatory.
01:03:26
Speaker
Nice.
01:03:29
Speaker
Slotted pig.
01:03:30
Speaker
Standard issue.
01:03:31
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:32
Speaker
Bye, Candios.
01:03:33
Speaker
Yeah, thank you guys for listening.
01:03:34
Speaker
See you in two weeks.
01:03:35
Speaker
Bye, Candios.
01:03:36
Speaker
Yeah, bye, Candios.
01:03:41
Speaker
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01:03:43
Speaker
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01:03:46
Speaker
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