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Braveheart
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Another of those rare instances where Jeff and JT agree with the Academy of Motion Pictures, we're on Braveheart this episode. Mel Gibson swings a sword, makes speeches, and somehow wears both a kilt and face paint, in defiance of all actual historical records. We talk its big Best Picture Oscar win, James Horner’s score that still gives us goosebumps, questionable history, and battle scenes that absolutely still slap. Was it as good as we remembered, or were we just teenagers hopped up on bagpipes and adrenaline?
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Introduction to 'Movie Life Crisis' and 'Braveheart'
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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis.
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Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.
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Each call costs 50 cents.
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For love, I want to lie to you.
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He defied the world.
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This Scottish rebel.
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For revenge.
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He fights to avenge a woman?
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He went to war.
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We cannot defeat this army.
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We can't.
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For what he lost, he would never find peace.
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They may take our lives.
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For what he won.
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But they'll never take our freedom!
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He would never be forgotten.
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Every man dies, but every man really lives.
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Braveheart.
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Rated R. Starts Wednesday, May 24th at theaters everywhere.
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What would you do for a clone back?
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Oh, the commercial that you can't hit pause fast enough when you're recording
Nostalgia for 90s Trailers and First Impressions of 'Braveheart'
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off the radio.
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If I see a trailer that's got some, like, 90s commercials on either side of it, I always pick that one because that shit...
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That was like the first one, if you're not watching on YouTube, that's a smart move.
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But if you do watch, you could see the actual trailer and you could see it's like a freaking 900 line to dial into hard copy.
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If you have information that will help them solve a crime, fees may apply.
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Oh, geez.
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I didn't even see that it was hard copy.
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I was laughing so hard that it was 50 cents a minute.
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I thought it was Miss Cleo.
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That would have been amazing.
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But yeah, man.
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Braveheart.
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Oh, Braveheart.
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Brave up to a point heart.
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I had a proctel examination.
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I confessed to the Kennedy assassination.
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I've had bigger joints in an ashtray.
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um yeah dude freaking Braveheart I dude this was first time I saw it all the way through in one take uh dude this is this is uh it's exactly my type of music dude it's a freaking epic movie with the reluctant hero I'm all about the reluctant hero like Gladiator Taken John Wick Luke Skywalker Thomas Callahan III from Tommy Boy yeah
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yes the hero's journey always the hero's journey super into it uh and i remember this i had a buddy in college who listened to the score like in the in the weight room like we just freaking crank that shit up and then it's like we go do power cleans i was oh man just on the james horner was out there take our freedom dude james horner was out there doing work nice
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Uh, he took the sword, the huge sword that you hold with two hands, which I thought was a great sword, but they said it was maybe a two handed long
Realism and Authenticity in 'Braveheart'
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sword.
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And he just, just straight up through it.
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I was like, I don't think that's, he did like more than one time.
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I was like, I'm not like a sword expert, but I don't think I would do that.
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Yeah.
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I don't think so either.
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Uh, also I've never, ever held a real sword.
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Ever.
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Oh yeah.
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I've never held a replica sword.
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Unless you count the thing that Arthur Simone made us out of a PVC pipe at those swim meets.
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In pool.
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I've never held one.
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Are they supposed to wobble as much as they were wobbling?
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I don't think they're supposed to wobble.
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I think that's movie prop sword.
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Let's ask our expert intern, Mike.
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Oh, bring in the intern.
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Oh, snap.
Meet Intern Mike
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Where's Mike Jones?
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Mike Jones.
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Camera still doesn't work.
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Not much, man.
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How are you guys?
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Oh, this is wonderful.
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I like it better that I can't see you, actually.
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This is much better.
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Yeah.
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I hung out with intern Mike a couple weeks ago in Montana.
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He looks the same.
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He didn't miss anything.
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Okay, good.
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That's good.
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I thought I got fired.
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I'm picturing young Mike.
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I thought I got fired, but I haven't got paid, so it's fine.
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Actually, we're going to go ahead and ask you to move your desk back just a little bit and turn in your stapler, please.
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That would be great.
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We thought you were quiet, Quentin, because we hadn't heard anything from you.
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Well, I heard there was a problem with scheduling.
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Like, the schedule just didn't exist.
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It was really more of the problem.
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Well, no, intern Mike has been doing a lot of work behind the scenes.
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He told me he spent a lot of last year working on a big interview for us and then got pretty deep into it and realized that Robin Williams actually is dead.
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But he...
'Braveheart' and the Oscars
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He was on it for a while.
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Yeah, I tried.
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I had a lot of good thoughts, a lot of good ideas.
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Just didn't really come to it.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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Pour some out.
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Mike, are you ready to give us your input on Braveheart?
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I am.
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Best movie of 1995 according to the Oscars?
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Okay.
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I was going to say.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hit us with your thoughts.
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Have you seen this?
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A long time ago.
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I tried to watch it recently, but it cost money.
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We don't have that around here, so we couldn't do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
Historical Inaccuracies and Dramatic Liberties
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Yeah.
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Looked on the Hulu.
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The Hulu didn't have it.
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Jones, you said you had a podcast idea that you wanted to float by us.
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Yeah, I was thinking I'd start my own because I got like this intern thing going, you know, and I kind of know what's going on now.
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And I was going to do movies that were really good 29 years ago.
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That's a good idea.
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Just undercut us.
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Seven minute abs.
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Just give me a little preview.
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Preview of what you guys are going to screw up the next year.
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Oh, that's so great.
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I love this idea, Jones.
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I'm happy to help out however I can.
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But like you and I talked about, it cannot be a rewatch podcast because you haven't seen any of the movies.
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It would just be a watch podcast from 29 years ago.
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But I think that could be great.
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Yeah, I tried watching Braveheart last night, but I couldn't get it.
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So I watched something else instead.
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I even forget that.
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I watched Lethal Weapon instead and just pretended he was wearing a cape.
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yeah oh man getting too old for this shit i'm getting too old for this shit i do love that y'all did it at the same time that's great that's great jones do you want to give the synopsis for uh braveheart yeah so braveheart mel gibson uh gets out of jail and he goes back to ireland and he's like hey i found the love of my life and she
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Yeah, that's bang on, except for the jail in the Ireland part, because it's Scotland.
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But otherwise... And where's the Terminator?
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You didn't get any of this right.
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Note perfect.
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All right.
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Did you just hang up on Jones?
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I didn't hang up on him as call drop, but I think that was actually the perfect ending.
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Yeah, you just cut out.
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That's freaking great.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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All right, that's our intern.
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We try to have him on once a year, you can tell.
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I like when Mike Jones comes on.
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That's wonderful.
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We should do that more.
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Dude, and I think that's a great... Mel Gibson gets out of jail and then fights for Ireland.
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That's the perfect synopsis of this movie about the famous Scottish folk hero, William Wallace.
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He gets out of jail.
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Oh, man.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah.
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So, budget, $53 million.
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Gross, $209 million.
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Number 21 movie on the year between Outbreak and Bad Boys.
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This movie was huge.
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Massive, massive commercial success.
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Also huge 1,600 extras.
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Also huge two hours and 57 minutes.
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God, that's the part that got me, the two hours, 57 minutes.
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Yeah.
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Intern Mike's calling back.
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I'm not going to let him in.
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You should just keep rolling.
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It ended perfectly.
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Yeah.
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Dude, Academy Awards, it won five Oscars.
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Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Makeup, and Best Sound.
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Dude, it cleaned up.
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Yeah,
Cinematic Impact and Storytelling of 'Braveheart'
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absolutely.
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It did really well.
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It cleaned up.
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And, dude, I think this is one of the ones from the mid-'90s that the Oscars got right because, like, 94, Best Picture is Forrest Gump, 100% cosign.
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And 95, there are movies that I like more from 95, but given that comedies and action movies really never win awards, it's like, this is a pretty good choice, man.
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And Bad Boys is both of those, and it's not going to make it.
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Yeah, unless they're going to give it to Toy Story, you know, or, you know, but they're not gonna.
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So I think this is pretty good.
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Yeah, dude, it's an epic for sure.
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Yeah, it's an epic.
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I'm into it.
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Sequels and spinoffs.
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The only thing I saw was there's a sequel like freaking five years ago called Robert the Bruce.
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Yeah, Robert the Bruce.
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It's the same guy.
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Yeah, same guy.
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He reprised his role.
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Robert the Bruce is the actual Braveheart, by the way, like historically.
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Right.
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That's the guy they called Braveheart.
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Also, there was one, the Outlaw King.
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Did you see that?
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They were saying like, it's not the actual like spinoff or sequel, but it's like spiritually its successor.
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Like it's the one that takes over the story.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and this is one of those things like Robin Hood that has been told a whole bunch of times.
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So if you want to go real loose with it, there's a million of these sequels across all forms.
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But strictly speaking, it had a legacy sequel in 2019 with the same guy from some of the same people.
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And this McFadden.
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Yeah.
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Dude, I like how historically inaccurate this movie is.
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I really appreciate that.
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It was pretty bad.
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Not bad, like pretty off as far as that goes.
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The guy that wrote it, though, I was reading an article.
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He said like, oh, this is just supposed to be like a dramatic retelling.
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This is not... Yeah.
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The guy that wrote it is named Randall Wallace, but he's from Tennessee.
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He's not... Yeah.
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He's not related to William Wallace at all.
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And he said that it was inspired by a 15th century poem by blind Harry or some shit.
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And he just straight up said, he's like, is it true?
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He's like, I don't know.
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But it inspired me.
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And so I just wrote it based on that.
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And that's how you should write movies.
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Yeah.
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this is way better than the real story and like if trump's america has taught me anything is that history does not fucking matter at all just make it interesting make it just take all the parts you don't like throw that away and just change the timeline a little bit make it make it fun do you you feel like this is like historical fiction like uh the titanic or something like where it's like it actually happened but it's not the same way
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Well, I kept thinking about Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, where Kevin Costner with a California accent is the Robin Hood, Robin of Loxley.
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Dude, that movie's awesome.
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I like it.
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I don't care if he doesn't have an accent.
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I don't give a shit.
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Robin!
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Why don't you follow us?
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Because I am not one of you.
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I'm like, what?
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Yeah.
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Dude, I like this.
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I mean, even, you know, real history, super boring.
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Movie history, way more fun and also not real.
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It's fine.
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Yeah, I was going to say, and also not real, but super more fun.
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You've seen this before the time we watched it.
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I saw this back in the day, and I remember really liking it.
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I think probably in high school, maybe even in college, because I had it on DVD.
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I can't imagine I watched it that much, because I would still be finishing my second go-around right now if I'd started in college.
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Yeah, three hours is a bit much.
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But I know I had this.
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And I remember I went on road trips with my buddy from college, and he would play the soundtrack in the truck.
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And I was like, we just, just Braveheart soundtrack?
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Big James Horner fan?
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Just jerk the wheel off of the interstate, go through the prairie.
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He's like, this part right here is really good.
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So it really kicks it up a notch.
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I'm like, okay.
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Dude, I don't think I've seen this all the way through.
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For reals.
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I've seen bits and pieces.
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I'm pretty sure if you put it all together, I had three hours worth of watching.
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But there was parts that I think I missed.
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The first time I watched it all the way through was for this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, again, I could see why I didn't make it all the way through.
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But like if you got anything else better to do, like eat or sleep, you're screwed if you start it.
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But still, it was, dude, it was worth the watch.
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For sure.
00:11:42
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Yeah, I'm excited to talk to you because you were like, this movie's fine.
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But I also know that you love Gladiator.
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And the whole time I was like, what are you talking about?
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He's not sure about Braveheart, but he loves Gladiator?
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It's the same freaking movie.
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It's the exact same shit, beat for beat.
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They just cut the hair short and they don't do the accent.
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I show Gladiator and I show Troy in my class.
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They're even wearing skirts in Gladiator.
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Dude, I saw so many people that play parts.
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Even his uncle Argyle, he's in Troy.
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The guy who plays his friend is the guy who plays, God bless Hamish.
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He's in Troy.
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The guy with the scar on his face is in Gladiator.
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All of those guys are in the same movies.
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And I don't know.
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The whole time I was just like, meh, I don't know, I guess.
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But now that I watched it, I have a different opinion.
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So I'm not mad anymore.
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We'll talk about it.
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Let's talk about it now.
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What's your rate?
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I gave it an 8 out of 10.
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Me too.
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Yeah.
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I, dude, I, I am, I love this genre.
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Epic historical movie about a reluctant hero with an incredible soundtrack.
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Great.
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James Horner.
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Dude, James Horner scored six movies in 1995, two of which are Braveheart and Apollo 13.
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Wow.
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That dude was out there doing work.
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Yeah.
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He's killing it.
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How do you get it past eight?
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Just make it shorter.
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Yeah.
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Speaker
Trim off 40 minutes.
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Yeah.
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And you could too.
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There was a lot of times where people are just staring at each other like it's an anime TV show or like people are riding horses up to a town.
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Dude, one of the trailers I found for this that I almost included, it was like the VHS TV commercial and it showed the freaking two layer VHS tapes like freaking Ten Commandments.
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Nice.
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And I was like, yeah, dude, this shit came on too.
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Like Titanic.
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Yeah.
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Like the Ten Commandments.
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Even though her boobs are in the first tape, you don't even need the second tape.
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I don't even know why.
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Just take that and throw that right away.
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But I just like that Mel Gibson was like, hey, man, I don't, you know, like we're out here with, we're building robotic horses.
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We got actual troops as the extras for the battle scenes.
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He said that the Battle of Sterling Bridge, which is their first giant battle scene, he said they shot it for six weeks.
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And I was like, well, watching it took like a shade under six weeks.
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Just...
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It was live.
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We watched it live.
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It's one of my favorite parts.
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So, like, I mean, I'm not very rarely well.
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I'd be like, you know what we should do?
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Fire up a three-hour historical fiction movie and gather around the hearth.
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But, like, I liked this one.
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I mean, I easily could have trimmed 20 minutes out of it, but I don't think I care, too.
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Dude, you could have taken 40 out for reals.
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Like, as I was going about halfway through and I moved the mouse by mistake and it brought up the little thing at the bottom, I was like...
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We're only halfway.
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Oh no.
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Um, that's when I realized like, Oh snap, there's times where she's like walking into the jail to go see him.
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And the camera follows her.
00:14:36
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He has like a tracking shot for 40 seconds.
00:14:38
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And then to another room.
00:14:39
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And I was like, just have her walk into the cell.
00:14:41
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What are we doing?
00:14:42
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Just cut to when they were in the cell talking.
00:14:44
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Cut, jump to, nice boob fest.
00:14:46
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I was trying to think about the TV version of this.
00:14:51
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Did they run this like Roots over a two-week period every single night?
00:14:54
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It's the epic miniseries Braveheart.
00:14:57
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Mel Gibson's Directorial Influence
00:15:01
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Oh, man.
00:15:02
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But yeah, man, dude, I think it's really well directed.
00:15:04
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Mel Gibson wins an Oscar for Best Director.
00:15:06
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It's well acted.
00:15:07
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It's freaking a tight two hours and 57 minutes.
00:15:12
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All the things.
00:15:13
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And I make fun of the cinematography, but that's more editing choices, I guess.
00:15:17
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But the guy that won Cinematographer, he did a great job as well.
00:15:20
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Oh, no doubt.
00:15:21
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Everybody pulled it together and really knocked it out.
00:15:24
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Well, I have a friend who lives in Scotland, and I was asking about, like, I'm like, hey, dude, do you know about, like, do Scottish people talk about William Wallace?
00:15:31
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He's like, yeah, he's like Daniel Boone.
00:15:32
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He's like, there's statues of him everywhere.
00:15:33
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Like, people freaking love him.
00:15:35
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That's crazy.
00:15:35
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I was like, that's awesome.
00:15:37
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I love that he's, like, a real legit, like, folk hero still in Scotland.
00:15:41
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Like, just freaking William Wallace statues just, like, randomly scattered throughout Scotland.
00:15:45
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That's pretty cool.
00:15:46
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That's pretty cool.
00:15:47
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So we both got an eight.
00:15:47
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That's cool.
00:15:48
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I thought you were going to rate it lower than that.
00:15:49
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I was going to ask why.
00:15:50
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Dude, me thinking about it with my little clips that I had seen, I was thinking, meh.
00:15:56
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But now that I watched it all together, it's a great story.
00:15:59
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Just like you said, the reluctant hero and the whole, he killed my dog, and now I've got to kill everybody.
00:16:04
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Yeah, dude.
00:16:05
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Yeah, I like that.
00:16:07
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I was thinking about my favorite scenes.
00:16:10
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I was like, dude, there's a lot of scenes from this movie that I would like to include, which is not surprising when it's three hours long.
00:16:15
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But still, it's a lot of good shit in there.
00:16:17
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Yeah, yeah.
00:16:19
Speaker
What's your first best scene?
00:16:20
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My first scene is the giant battle scene, the Battle of Sterling Bridge, which is the one that Mel Gibson said took six weeks to film.
00:16:28
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They had 1,600 extras, and they actually used army people as the extras.
00:16:31
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Okay.
00:16:31
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Yeah.
00:16:32
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I also had that one as my first one.
00:16:34
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They built freaking mechanical horses.
00:16:36
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Because you could tell it's... I watched them making a featurette that came with the DVD.
William Wallace's Legacy and Battle Realism
00:16:40
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You could tell it's like just... People have just decided in 95 that we should be nice to animals because Mel Gibson's like, yeah, you can't do stuff to horses anymore.
00:16:46
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So I had to build some mechanical horses.
00:16:49
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And I guess in like 91, he's like, yeah, we just were murdering horses only the weapon.
00:16:53
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Who gave a shit?
00:16:57
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Here's my question.
00:16:58
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Where did Bridge at?
00:17:00
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Yeah, dude.
00:17:00
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That's one of the historical accuracies is the Battle of Stirling Bridge did not feature a bridge.
00:17:04
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And in the real battle, the bridge was kind of crucial because it was a choke point.
00:17:08
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Yeah.
00:17:09
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And it was how the Scottish fighters were able to stack up the British.
00:17:12
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And the bridge collapsed during the battle and a bunch of the British army drowned, which is kind of important.
00:17:17
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Huge tactical element of this entire battle was the bridge.
00:17:21
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Yeah.
00:17:21
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And there was no bridge.
00:17:22
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huge tactile element of the battle in the movie was when they all mooned them.
00:17:26
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And then got shot in the ass.
00:17:30
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Mel Gibson, as he said on the feature, he's like, yeah, he's like, I think that should be in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most like asses anyone ever showed at one time.
00:17:38
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Good Lord.
00:17:38
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But apparently like the Scottish troops used to do that.
00:17:41
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Although in this time period, they didn't wear like tartan kilts.
00:17:46
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Yeah, that wasn't a thing.
00:17:47
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But I like how I like how I just keep thinking about the story that Ben Affleck said about Armageddon when he's asking freaking what's his name?
00:17:57
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The director always blows everything up.
00:17:59
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Michael.
00:18:00
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Yeah.
00:18:00
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Michael Bay's like, why wouldn't they just train astronauts to to drill?
00:18:04
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Why would this?
00:18:04
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This doesn't make any sense.
00:18:05
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And Michael Bay was like, shut the fuck up.
00:18:07
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I just like would hate about Mel you know they didn't wear kilts during this he's like just shut the fuck up how am I supposed to show asses if we don't do that like that's the right answer who cares what they wore this is awesome
00:18:19
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Yeah, it's already there's no bridge.
00:18:21
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You might as well put him in kilts.
00:18:22
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That's what I'm saying.
00:18:25
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That's my first scene also.
00:18:27
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By the way, I know we talk about Dan Carlin every once in a while when we talk.
00:18:34
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Hardcore history.
00:18:35
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Yeah, he's always talking about battles at this point, and I use this when we talk about it in class.
00:18:40
Speaker
Dude, this is so... And they do a very good job of showing how brutal this is.
00:18:46
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Because it is not like I'm going to shoot this guy from a half mile away with a sniper rifle or even I'm going to shoot him from 500 yards away with a rifle.
00:18:57
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No, dude, I'm going to shoot him from indoor air conditioning with an Xbox controller and it's going to be a drone strike and it'll feel like I'm playing a video game.
00:19:04
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That's how war happens now.
00:19:05
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But this shit was like they're hitting people with rocks.
00:19:09
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Yeah, I'm saying like, they were fighting like Ewoks, and I was like, this is not for me at all.
00:19:14
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Dude, because he talks about like, you know, nowadays a bomb could drop or a missile could hit you or some mortars could hit you, and you were kind of in danger all the time.
00:19:23
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Back then, you were in zero danger for most of the time, but as soon as you lined up, you were in maximum danger.
00:19:29
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And you have to sit there and be a serial killer.
00:19:32
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Kill one guy, and then kill the next guy, and then kill the next guy, and you got to keep doing that.
00:19:37
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That's...
00:19:38
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brutal and they showed it all very well in this movie well it's one things i liked about this scene is it went on for a really long time and you get the sense it's like long enough where it's like dude my blood pressure is kind of elevated just watching this i can only imagine being there like because mel gibson you know because he's like fight he fights like a 11 million thousand guys and he like looks around for a second and i'm like right then he could have got shot with an arrow and died
Casting and Character Analysis
00:20:00
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and the movie would be over
00:20:01
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Right.
00:20:01
Speaker
This shit's taking so long.
00:20:04
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Yeah, I don't do.
00:20:05
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And I don't think like I'm not even good at Capri Sun.
00:20:07
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So I know I'm not stabbing somebody to death.
00:20:10
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I don't know how you kill that many people and then go home and go.
00:20:14
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All right, I'm going to go.
00:20:15
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I'm going to tuck in for the night night night and like fall asleep without like nightmares.
00:20:20
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Like I do.
00:20:21
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I think the nightmares come later because I think the day of the battle, if you live, you're probably pretty freaking tired.
00:20:26
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Yeah, well, no, yeah.
00:20:27
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But I'm saying, like, I just don't.
00:20:29
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Well, the crazy thing about this real battle, I'm trying to remember, is that there was another guy with him, a Scottish commander, and I think his name was Murray, and he died from his wounds at this battle, but he was, like, one of the other dudes, Andrew Murray, that fought this battle.
00:20:49
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is him.
00:20:52
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So it's like, hey, we won the battle.
00:20:54
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It's like, I'm the commander.
00:20:55
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Like, big party.
00:20:55
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And then, like, two months later, he dies from his injuries.
00:20:58
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Like, he's just...
00:21:01
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Like, that's why I like that the old guy, like, got his hand chopped off, and he, like, went and fought some other battles, one-handed, the one-armed man, and then eventually he died.
00:21:08
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Dude, he got shot in the chest, and then they just, like, cauterized the wound with a hot piece of metal.
00:21:13
Speaker
What are we... What?
00:21:14
Speaker
What?
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah, dude, so I like that... No, I'm not doing that.
00:21:18
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See, I talk about this all the time with one of my other friends, because we both are of the theory that the internet has made people way too bold, because there's no chance of anyone on the internet punching you in the mouth.
00:21:26
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And when we grew up, you knew that there was things that you couldn't say without someone punching you in the mouth.
00:21:30
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And now everyone's like, I don't give a fuck.
00:21:32
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Come on at me.
00:21:32
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It's like, you're on the computer.
00:21:34
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That's not how we grew up.
00:21:36
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Yeah.
00:21:38
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You ain't taking my cornbread.
00:21:40
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Yeah.
00:21:43
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So, but I liked that these battle scenes were so freaking crazy and they went on so long and it's like, dude, this is shit is, I also liked the spears because the whole, like historically, like, did you know about this?
00:21:53
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Like there was like a thousand years where if one group had heavy horses, it's like, well shit, they just, they won.
00:21:58
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Yeah.
00:21:59
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Like that's like the 96 bulls.
00:22:00
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Why would we even show up?
00:22:02
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Like, and so, I mean, basically until the invention of the firearm, you know, in like China in the 1300s, it's like, if they got the horses, they win the battle.
00:22:09
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Yeah.
00:22:10
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And Mel Gibson's like, we'll just make really long spears.
00:22:12
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Like, hell yeah.
00:22:13
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Now we're talking like actual military tactics.
00:22:15
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William Wallace is supposed to be a great tactician.
00:22:16
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I'm like, that's, that's, I like that there's real shit in the movie like that.
00:22:20
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Yeah, and how he makes them hold and then pulls them up at the last second.
00:22:25
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Even though I'm sure they probably didn't use spears at the Battle of Sterling Bridge, they used the bridge.
00:22:29
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I just liked that there was an actual... They used the bridge.
00:22:31
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They probably used spears, too.
00:22:34
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The whole phalanx thing where the guy behind you has a spear, your shield is here, and you're holding a spear.
00:22:42
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That guy has a spear, the guy behind him has a spear, and it goes up.
00:22:45
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He has a human porcupine.
00:22:47
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Yeah, they do the...
00:22:50
Speaker
How do you ride towards that?
00:22:52
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Yeah.
00:22:53
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Or run towards that?
00:22:54
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Like, dude, forget.
00:22:55
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That's crazy.
00:22:57
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Ah, dude, I got a hangnail.
00:22:58
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I'm calling in sick to work, so I'm not running at that.
00:23:01
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I'm out.
00:23:03
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I'm out.
00:23:04
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Dude, the only person in this movie that I want to be is the gay prince.
00:23:11
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He just stays home and he shoots arrows while his friends golf clap and he drinks wine.
00:23:14
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Edward II?
00:23:15
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Yeah.
00:23:15
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Edward I is like, did you take care of that?
00:23:18
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He's like, yeah, I got people working on that right now.
00:23:20
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He's like, that's not what I heard.
00:23:21
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He's like, well, I don't know what you want me to do.
00:23:22
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I'm going to have some more wine.
00:23:24
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That's the job I want.
00:23:25
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I'm going to throw your quote friend right out of the window.
00:23:30
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Yeah, I didn't like how they made him gay.
00:23:31
Speaker
That was just because nobody liked that back then.
00:23:35
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I know.
00:23:35
Speaker
And it's Mel Gibson.
00:23:36
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Yeah.
00:23:37
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Yes, exactly.
00:23:38
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They made him gay and they probably made him Jewish.
00:23:41
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We just didn't know it at the time.
00:23:42
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We just didn't know.
00:23:43
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That's the only way he could get angry at all those people.
00:23:45
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Just pretend they're all Jews, Mel.
00:23:46
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Let's go.
00:23:47
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Yeah, I forgot.
00:23:48
Speaker
We're 20 minutes and we probably should mention Mel Gibson.
00:23:50
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He's kind of a horrible human being, but really good at acting.
00:23:52
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So we're talking about that.
00:23:54
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Everyone knows.
00:23:55
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Everyone knows.
00:23:56
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What's your second scene?
00:23:58
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My second scene, dude, I had a hard time picking, but I ended up choosing this scene.
00:24:01
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The first time he meets with the princess of Wales, Princess Isabel.
00:24:08
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Yeah, Sophia Marceau.
00:24:10
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Yeah, Sophie Marceau.
00:24:11
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Sophie Marceau.
00:24:12
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And they're in the tent, and she's got the freaking bandage gauze shit all up on her head, and the princess Leia hair.
00:24:19
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And she's trying to buy him off.
00:24:20
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He's like, hey, Longshanks says he'll give you a bucket full of gold and he'll give you a bunch of titles.
00:24:26
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You just got to stop fighting.
00:24:29
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Yeah.
00:24:30
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He's getting all angry at her and stuff.
00:24:32
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I got a quote from that too.
00:24:34
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He's like, ah, he's... And dude, he does the whole speech about...
00:24:38
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He's like, I was a boy when Longshanks first came.
00:24:40
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Because the movie starts with him hanging all the nobles.
00:24:43
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Right.
00:24:44
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And she doesn't know that.
00:24:45
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And he's like, go ask him.
00:24:46
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Go back and ask him.
00:24:47
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Yeah.
00:24:48
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And I freaking love that.
00:24:49
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Yeah, because she's from France and she doesn't know what's been going on this whole time.
00:24:53
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Yeah.
00:24:54
Speaker
Even though in real life she's still in France and she's 10 years old.
00:24:56
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Yeah, I was going to say, there's no way there...
00:24:59
Speaker
That's why that love interest didn't make sense to me.
00:25:01
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I didn't remember that.
00:25:02
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And I was like, wait a second.
00:25:03
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If I remember this part when I'm teaching it, she's way younger.
00:25:08
Speaker
She's way younger and she's still in France.
00:25:10
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But in the movie, it's awesome.
00:25:11
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And I love a few more so.
00:25:12
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So I'm glad she was in.
00:25:13
Speaker
She's freaking on the door and he's sinking down below and everything's fine.
00:25:17
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Titanic.
00:25:18
Speaker
Um, the second one I had was, uh, the scene where the Irish, uh, it's like the second, like bigger battle in the middle of the field and the Irish battle of Falkirk.
00:25:29
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Yeah.
00:25:29
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And they switch sides and they go in and then as soon as they're, they're moving in with their, they're all charging each other and the Scots are moving in too.
00:25:38
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And then all of a sudden they just stop and start laughing and shaking hands and stuff.
00:25:43
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Yeah.
00:25:44
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Yeah.
00:25:45
Speaker
And they're all just switching sides and the British or the English people have no idea what's going on.
00:25:50
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They're like, what, what freaking Irish, he starts getting upset.
00:25:54
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I love that.
00:25:55
Speaker
I love that.
00:25:56
Speaker
That's great, dude.
00:25:57
Speaker
I, uh, before that, the freaking long shanks is at that battle and he's there.
00:26:04
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He's like getting ready.
00:26:05
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He's like, Hey, just to, and one of his like advisors is like, he's like, do you want the archers?
00:26:09
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And he's like, no, arrows cost money.
00:26:10
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Send the Irish.
00:26:11
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It's in the Irish.
00:26:12
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Yeah.
00:26:12
Speaker
God, this movie's got some really good dialogue.
00:26:15
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Oh yeah.
00:26:16
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Dude, the whole time, when they started flipping and they were on the other team, I was just like, cause I forgot that part.
00:26:24
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And then Mel Gibson's homie, Stephen, the Irish Highlander who joins him, he's like, well, I get to kill Englishman.
00:26:31
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He's like, I told you it's my Island.
00:26:33
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And then they're just all hugging high five and like, yeah, that's great.
00:26:37
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That's really good.
00:26:39
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That was, that was
Cultural Impact and Legacy of 'Braveheart'
00:26:40
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my second scene.
00:26:41
Speaker
And then also at the Battle of Falkirk, then later on, the Scottish nobles also switched sides.
00:26:46
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So everyone's just freaking flip-flopping around.
00:26:48
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Yeah, freaking, I can't keep it straight.
00:26:51
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It's all murky.
00:26:52
Speaker
You said it was standard.
00:26:53
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I know what I said.
00:26:55
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Oh, it ain't murky when there's a girl involved, huh?
00:26:57
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I see how it go.
00:26:59
Speaker
Oh, man, that's booty blind.
00:27:00
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That's the problem.
00:27:01
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Everybody's booty blind.
00:27:02
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That's right.
00:27:02
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Flipping sides.
00:27:04
Speaker
What's your third one?
00:27:07
Speaker
Dude, is that buying the cow?
00:27:09
Speaker
I feel like I was just watching that.
00:27:11
Speaker
No, that was I Spy.
00:27:13
Speaker
Oh, I Spy.
00:27:14
Speaker
When everybody's flipping sides.
00:27:18
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Yeah, it's actually pretty standard.
00:27:19
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There's pseudo-doubles agents and double agents.
00:27:25
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It's pretty standard.
00:27:25
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Yeah.
00:27:28
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The third one, I couldn't, I had a hard time.
00:27:31
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I almost did that one because that's another great battle scene.
00:27:33
Speaker
There's a bunch of freaking double crossing.
00:27:35
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And I ended up just doing the final scene of the movie because I just think it finishes in a really satisfying way.
00:27:41
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Longshanks is up in his bed dying.
00:27:43
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He can't talk anymore.
00:27:45
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Mel Gibson's down there getting tortured, brave up to a point, heart.
00:27:49
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His buddies are in the crowd with the hood over their head.
00:27:52
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His dead wife's walking around.
00:27:53
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Tell him to say mercy.
00:27:55
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Say mercy and we won't do it.
00:27:56
Speaker
And he wouldn't do it.
00:27:58
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Axe on the peen, and he didn't give it up.
00:28:02
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And they don't show him being disemboweled, but I can tell from his facial expressions he didn't enjoy it.
00:28:06
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Right.
00:28:06
Speaker
And I just liked that.
00:28:08
Speaker
Dude, I had the same thing, because when you said he died—
00:28:12
Speaker
Right as he yells freedom is right when the king dies also, or the guy dies.
00:28:17
Speaker
Dude, that's freaking great.
00:28:19
Speaker
That was a cool way to do that.
00:28:20
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Also not how that really happened, but I liked it.
00:28:22
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Right, right.
00:28:23
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And dude, in real life, when he, so some of the, like, I watched a video about how William Wallace actually died.
00:28:30
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It's like, they actually did strangle him.
00:28:31
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Yeah.
00:28:54
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Good call.
00:28:55
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That way he can't come back.
00:28:57
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Very smart.
00:28:58
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But yeah, and I don't, I guess I don't, I guess I can't count it as the same scene, but I really would like to because before that, maybe it's the same scene.
00:29:07
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The freaking princess, Princess Isabel is like whispering in Longshank's ear because he can't talk anymore.
00:29:12
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Yeah.
00:29:13
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And she's saying like, your blood dies with you.
00:29:14
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I carry a child that's not of your line and I promise your son won't sit on the throne for very long.
00:29:18
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And I was like, that's sweet.
00:29:20
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That's some Game of Thrones shit.
00:29:21
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I love it.
00:29:21
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It didn't happen at all like that, but it's awesome.
00:29:24
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Yeah, it's great.
00:29:25
Speaker
It's great.
00:29:27
Speaker
Plus, I think Edward I kind of knew about his son in this storyline.
00:29:33
Speaker
Right.
00:29:34
Speaker
Probably wasn't going to give him a son.
00:29:36
Speaker
Right.
00:29:36
Speaker
A grandson.
00:29:38
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:29:38
Speaker
Friggin' end was one of the best parts.
00:29:41
Speaker
That interrogation scene, they didn't show it and you could still tell what was going on.
00:29:47
Speaker
I liked it.
00:29:48
Speaker
It was great.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:50
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that was, like, getting into the actual history would take us, like, another two, three hours that we don't have, and only one of us is qualified to talk about that.
00:29:59
Speaker
But, like, Edward II had, like, four brothers.
00:30:03
Speaker
Right.
00:30:04
Speaker
So it's not like this, you know.
00:30:05
Speaker
There was more, yeah.
00:30:06
Speaker
We're trying to make it real clean for the movie, but in real life, not so much.
00:30:09
Speaker
That's how they got to do.
00:30:11
Speaker
They got to keep it simple, because if you put too many people, they start to get murky.
00:30:16
Speaker
People start flip-flopping.
00:30:17
Speaker
Oh, can't keep it.
00:30:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:20
Speaker
Or if I go see a Marvel movie and I haven't been in a while, I have to do the Homer Simpsons like, who's that guy?
00:30:26
Speaker
What did that guy say when I said, who's that guy?
00:30:29
Speaker
All right, let's do top three quotes.
00:30:31
Speaker
What's your first quote?
00:30:33
Speaker
they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
00:30:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:36
Speaker
I got that one.
00:30:37
Speaker
I got the whole speech.
00:30:40
Speaker
It's the battle of Stirling Bridge.
00:30:42
Speaker
The nobles show up, and they're going to go leave.
00:30:46
Speaker
And he's like, what would you have us do?
00:30:47
Speaker
He's like, peace has something.
00:30:49
Speaker
And the guy's like, yeah, we'll live.
00:30:51
Speaker
And he's like, guy, fight, and you may die.
00:30:53
Speaker
Run, and you'll live, at least for a while.
00:30:56
Speaker
And then the whole thing's like, dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
00:31:06
Speaker
Freedom.
00:31:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:08
Speaker
I like how he yells freedom, too, at the end of the thing.
00:31:11
Speaker
He, uh...
00:31:13
Speaker
He says that he thinks that Randall Wallace, the screenwriter, probably borrowed a little bit of that speech from Henry V, Shakespeare, which if you're going to borrow, Shakespeare is a great place to go.
00:31:21
Speaker
That's a good story.
00:31:22
Speaker
But I saw Mel Gibson talking in an interview, and I flipped off the TV just so everybody knows how I feel about it in my own house by myself.
00:31:28
Speaker
But he was saying that, he was like, the horse did all the work.
00:31:31
Speaker
He was like, the horse was like, it was very jumpy, and so every time I would yell, it would try to run around.
00:31:36
Speaker
It really added a lot to that performance.
00:31:37
Speaker
I didn't have to do a whole lot.
00:31:39
Speaker
Camera just followed him.
00:31:40
Speaker
He just said it.
00:31:41
Speaker
Scared him.
00:31:42
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:31:43
Speaker
But yeah, that's my first one.
00:31:45
Speaker
That's a freaking epic quote that made me get ready to go and fight for the sovereignty of Scotland.
00:31:49
Speaker
Scotland?
00:31:50
Speaker
I'm not fighting for Scotland.
00:31:52
Speaker
I was wondering that too.
00:31:55
Speaker
I know how you and I are.
00:31:58
Speaker
I don't know that there's anything that people could do to make me want to fight for the United States like this guy fought.
00:32:06
Speaker
Like I'm not going out there like Ewoks and throwing rocks and getting sticks and stuff to fight people.
00:32:12
Speaker
Like, I don't know.
00:32:12
Speaker
Maybe it's because I've had all the advantages I could have.
00:32:16
Speaker
I don't know.
00:32:18
Speaker
You got to really love Scotland.
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:21
Speaker
Or you got to really hate the oppression.
00:32:22
Speaker
And it's hard because I think it's actually a real problem with 2025 is like we're just as oppressed in some ways, but also we have air conditioning and high speed internet.
00:32:33
Speaker
So it's easy to distract ourselves from
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah, it feels like you can't feel it.
00:32:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah, I get that.
00:32:39
Speaker
So it's like, yeah, I hate those guys.
00:32:42
Speaker
It's like, ooh, I got some new stuff to watch.
00:32:44
Speaker
Like, it's just... All right, new episodes.
00:32:47
Speaker
Like, it's not that we're not equally as oppressed as people in the past have fought over.
00:32:52
Speaker
It's just like, we got other shit that we can do to distract ourselves.
00:32:54
Speaker
And you don't have to fight to do that.
00:32:55
Speaker
So for most people, it's like, well, I mean, you know, I can still afford a hamburger.
00:32:59
Speaker
I got new stuff to watch.
00:33:01
Speaker
I'm probably fine.
00:33:01
Speaker
Right, yeah.
00:33:03
Speaker
What's your next quote?
00:33:06
Speaker
Every man dies, but not every man really lives.
00:33:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:10
Speaker
I like that.
00:33:11
Speaker
I have another variation of that that he said a different time.
00:33:13
Speaker
He's like, we all end up dead.
00:33:14
Speaker
It's just a question of how and why.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:17
Speaker
I like the whole movie.
00:33:17
Speaker
He's just like throwing out stoic shit like that.
00:33:19
Speaker
He's like, hey, man.
00:33:20
Speaker
He's like, you'll die.
00:33:21
Speaker
He's like, yeah.
00:33:22
Speaker
He's like, but already, he's like, but people are going to die, like regardless.
00:33:26
Speaker
They killed my wife.
00:33:28
Speaker
They killed my dog.
00:33:31
Speaker
The brake pads are not selling.
00:33:32
Speaker
I got to do what I got to do.
00:33:34
Speaker
I have the call to action.
00:33:37
Speaker
Joseph Campbell says I got to go fight.
00:33:42
Speaker
Dude, for a third quote, I put one down where he says, I see my whole army of my countrymen here in defiance of tyranny.
00:33:52
Speaker
You've got to come and fight as free men.
00:33:54
Speaker
The free men you are, what will you do with your freedom?
00:33:56
Speaker
Will you fight?
00:33:57
Speaker
That whole...
00:33:59
Speaker
I wasn't really married to that quote.
00:34:02
Speaker
I didn't like it that much.
00:34:03
Speaker
I just put it down because it was the next best thing for me.
00:34:07
Speaker
I like that one.
00:34:08
Speaker
My third one is when he's talking to Princess Isabel.
00:34:11
Speaker
The first time, he's like, I don't want the bribes.
00:34:14
Speaker
He's like, I don't trust Longshanks.
00:34:16
Speaker
He sucks.
00:34:17
Speaker
And she's like, peace is made in such ways.
00:34:19
Speaker
And he goes, slaves are made in such ways.
00:34:21
Speaker
And I liked it.
00:34:22
Speaker
We saw it a couple times.
00:34:23
Speaker
Because even when he was... If you say mercy, but he just wouldn't do it.
00:34:27
Speaker
He's like, I'm not...
00:34:28
Speaker
Because she was saying before, like, the night before he's going to be publicly tortured and killed, she's like, look, just say, just pledge allegiance and they'll stick you in the tower.
00:34:38
Speaker
He'll be dead in two weeks and then I'll be in charge.
00:34:41
Speaker
We'll see what happens.
00:34:41
Speaker
He's like, I can't do it.
00:34:42
Speaker
He's like, I can't.
00:34:44
Speaker
And she's like, but you'll die.
00:34:45
Speaker
He's like, everyone dies, but not every man truly lives.
00:34:47
Speaker
Right.
00:34:48
Speaker
I like that he keeps showing, like, he feels really strongly he's not going to compromise his morals or his freedom is important to him.
00:34:56
Speaker
Axe on the pain.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:34:57
Speaker
Wouldn't do it.
00:34:58
Speaker
Brave up to a point.
00:35:00
Speaker
That'd be me.
00:35:01
Speaker
I'd be pledging allegiance to whoever or whatever.
00:35:03
Speaker
You don't have to have the axe out.
00:35:05
Speaker
You could just say that you have an axe in the trunk of your car and that would be fine for me.
00:35:10
Speaker
Somebody owes my ass a belt.
00:35:11
Speaker
That's all I'm saying.
00:35:13
Speaker
Um...
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah, dude, good call.
00:35:16
Speaker
But there was a bunch of other ones I liked.
00:35:17
Speaker
Like one time, freaking Edward I says, the problem with Scotland is it's full of Scots.
00:35:24
Speaker
There was a bunch of good lines in there.
00:35:26
Speaker
And, you know, like Mel Gibson said at one point, he's like, every Scots...
00:35:33
Speaker
will be free as long as I draw breath or some shit like that.
00:35:35
Speaker
I was like, this dude's really hard up about this.
00:35:37
Speaker
I like this.
00:35:38
Speaker
He loves Scotland way more than I've liked pretty much anything.
00:35:42
Speaker
Sure.
00:35:43
Speaker
Right.
00:35:43
Speaker
He cares about stuff.
00:35:44
Speaker
I mean, he's, you know, he went off with Uncle Argyle.
00:35:46
Speaker
He learned how to fight.
00:35:47
Speaker
He learned how to speak Latin and French.
00:35:49
Speaker
Old one-eyed Argyle.
00:35:50
Speaker
I also, we didn't talk about that, but in that same scene that I had with the princess, I love that moment too, where one of the guards is talking to her in French.
00:36:02
Speaker
It's like, don't listen to this guy.
00:36:03
Speaker
He's slimy.
00:36:04
Speaker
He's a barbarian.
00:36:06
Speaker
He's lying.
00:36:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:36:07
Speaker
It was the guy with the weird haircut, her advisor, and he said something in Latin.
00:36:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:14
Speaker
And Mel Gibson says back in Latin, he says, I never lie.
00:36:18
Speaker
And I'm not a, he's like, I am a savage, but I never lie.
00:36:21
Speaker
He says it back in Latin.
00:36:22
Speaker
I love when shit like that happens.
00:36:23
Speaker
And then he says, would you rather me speak French?
00:36:25
Speaker
And he says it in French.
00:36:27
Speaker
That was great.
00:36:28
Speaker
That's good.
00:36:29
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:36:30
Speaker
I like that.
00:36:31
Speaker
Um, let's do characters.
00:36:33
Speaker
Who's the best character?
00:36:35
Speaker
My best first best character is Mel Gibson.
00:36:40
Speaker
My first best character is William Wallace.
00:36:42
Speaker
Mel Gibson can kick rocks.
00:36:45
Speaker
But no, for reals, he did a great job, man.
00:36:47
Speaker
Passionate.
00:36:49
Speaker
He got sent the script as an actor and he was like, yeah, I'll do it.
00:36:52
Speaker
It seems awesome.
00:36:53
Speaker
And then he said that he just kept thinking about it more and more and he kept thinking like, I want to do this this way and I really would like this to be this way.
00:36:59
Speaker
And he's like, I probably should direct this because I have a lot of ideas.
00:37:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:04
Speaker
And, uh, dude, I, the, I, tell me where, if you agree with this, I kept thinking during this movie that if you take any Kevin Costner movie that isn't about sports and put Mel Gibson in that role, I think it's way better.
00:37:17
Speaker
You think?
00:37:18
Speaker
Like, I'm just imagining Mel Gibson in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, which is already a really good movie, but he would make it better.
00:37:25
Speaker
I think so, yeah.
00:37:26
Speaker
And like Waterworld.
00:37:27
Speaker
What if Mel Gibson directed Waterworld?
00:37:29
Speaker
That would probably be awesome.
00:37:33
Speaker
I don't want to give Mel Gibson too much more work, but we can have him do a remake of Waterworld if you'd like.
00:37:40
Speaker
No, I'm just saying, like some, you know.
00:37:42
Speaker
Yeah, no, it would be better.
00:37:44
Speaker
It would be.
00:37:45
Speaker
It's a completely different style.
00:37:47
Speaker
Dude, I think he would freaking swap right in.
00:37:49
Speaker
I think he's just an improved Kevin Costner, unless it's a sports movie, and then I'm keeping Kevin Costner, because that's his wheelhouse.
00:37:57
Speaker
I don't want Mel Gibson in Ten Cup, but Mel Gibson in Robin Hood I think would be badass.
00:38:01
Speaker
Right, right, right, right.
00:38:03
Speaker
I'm not saying Mel Gibson would be bad in 10 Cup either, though, because we watched him in, what's the card playing movie?
00:38:09
Speaker
Maverick.
00:38:09
Speaker
Maverick.
00:38:10
Speaker
Dude, he was funny in that.
00:38:11
Speaker
Really funny.
00:38:12
Speaker
Yeah, so I think he could play that.
00:38:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:15
Speaker
Dude, he killed it in this.
00:38:16
Speaker
He was definitely my first one, even though historically inaccuracies...
00:38:20
Speaker
were rampant um i thought it was super compelling and pretty iconic that him with the blue face paint all caked on even though that's not really historical no frame either no the uh the kilts are like 500 years too early and the blue face paint's like 500 years too late but together i think it's great absolutely um who's your second my second one was uh sophie marceau
00:38:46
Speaker
Yeah, she was my third.
00:38:47
Speaker
Dude, I like her.
00:38:49
Speaker
I do, too.
00:38:49
Speaker
She is fantastic.
00:38:50
Speaker
I like that character, even though it's like not, she's not in this story for real in that way.
00:38:57
Speaker
But I was like, dude, this is such a, it's like a little love triangle, kind of triangle with Edward II, probably not so much a triangle.
00:39:03
Speaker
But like she's getting involved.
00:39:03
Speaker
She's like feeding him information about the potential ambushes and stuff.
00:39:08
Speaker
That was the best part.
00:39:09
Speaker
When she said, oh, they're going to come from the north and do the thing.
00:39:13
Speaker
Dude, I love that.
00:39:14
Speaker
Plus, I really like her as an actress.
00:39:18
Speaker
Dude, remember the one with Spade?
00:39:25
Speaker
Lost and Found.
00:39:26
Speaker
Lost and Found.
00:39:27
Speaker
Dude, I used to love that.
00:39:29
Speaker
She played like a cello or something, and he was in that.
00:39:33
Speaker
He was super funny, and she killed it in that.
00:39:36
Speaker
I thought she was awesome.
00:39:38
Speaker
Also in Alex and Emma, one of your and my favorites.
00:39:40
Speaker
I had like a 2% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:39:43
Speaker
How?
00:39:44
Speaker
She mainly does French movies because her IMDb has like 60 credits on it.
00:39:50
Speaker
But if you look at it, there's like four movies that people in America saw.
00:39:53
Speaker
It's like That Lost and Found and Alex and Emma.
00:39:55
Speaker
And those aren't even the movies that people saw.
00:39:57
Speaker
But then she did like.
00:39:58
Speaker
She did Bond.
00:39:59
Speaker
I was going to say the Bond movie and this are the two big American roles.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:05
Speaker
But she was fantastic.
00:40:06
Speaker
I liked her.
00:40:06
Speaker
Yeah, killed it.
00:40:08
Speaker
I agree.
00:40:08
Speaker
I had her as third.
00:40:10
Speaker
The person I had second was Brendan Gleeson as Hamish, his friend, the guy with the red hair.
00:40:14
Speaker
Dude, I'm glad you picked him because I was trying to decide between him and the Irish guy, and they both were fantastic.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I really, really like Brendan Gleeson.
00:40:24
Speaker
He's in a ton of movies I've seen, but he's in Troy.
00:40:28
Speaker
Yeah, he's in Harry Potter stuff.
00:40:29
Speaker
He's in Troy.
00:40:31
Speaker
He's in Troy and he plays Menelaus and dude, I freaking, I love it.
00:40:36
Speaker
He's in Bruges, which is a kind of unrair movie that I like.
00:40:39
Speaker
Banshees of Ensure in.
00:40:43
Speaker
I also like that Brendan Gleeson is playing Mel Gibson's Scottish best friend and he's Irish.
00:40:49
Speaker
And David O'Hara is playing Stephen, the Irish Highlander, and he's Scottish.
00:40:55
Speaker
Flip-flopped.
00:40:57
Speaker
Like the one guy who's playing the Irishman in this movie is maybe the one actor that's from Scotland.
00:41:02
Speaker
That's freaking great.
00:41:05
Speaker
That's freaking great.
00:41:09
Speaker
Who's your third?
00:41:10
Speaker
Who'd you pick for third?
00:41:12
Speaker
I picked David O'Hara, the Irishman.
00:41:14
Speaker
Oh, that's who you picked.
00:41:15
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:41:16
Speaker
I love that guy.
00:41:17
Speaker
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:41:18
Speaker
He kept cracking me up.
00:41:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:21
Speaker
There was a lot, dude, there were a lot of people that I could have, like the guy that played Robert the Bruce, I really liked him.
00:41:28
Speaker
The guy who played Longshanks, Patrick McGowan, incredible.
00:41:33
Speaker
Not a lot of people named Angus around here.
00:41:36
Speaker
Not a lot of, no.
00:41:36
Speaker
You don't meet a lot of Anguses.
00:41:37
Speaker
No.
00:41:39
Speaker
But, dude, Patrick McGowan, the guy that played Longshanks, he had that freaking pointy beard.
00:41:42
Speaker
He was, like, giving that Royal British accent.
00:41:44
Speaker
And he's done all kinds of shit.
00:41:46
Speaker
Yeah, he rolled his R's a couple times.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah, he hit it hard.
00:41:48
Speaker
I liked it.
00:41:50
Speaker
But, like, if you go through his stuff, it's like, dude, he was, like, working with Jimmy Stewart and stuff.
00:41:53
Speaker
He did Escape from Alcatraz.
00:41:55
Speaker
He was awesome.
00:41:56
Speaker
I almost did the very fake only for this movie Brian Cox as Uncle Argyle because he's not a real person either.
00:42:07
Speaker
And Brian Cox and Brendan Gleeson were brothers in Troy, so they were on the screen a lot together together.
00:42:14
Speaker
I love Brian Cox.
00:42:15
Speaker
I wish he was in more of this, but I'm wondering if they... Since our guy wasn't real.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to say they probably cut some stuff out.
00:42:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:23
Speaker
Yeah, dude, this cast is great.
00:42:26
Speaker
Everybody did an awesome job.
00:42:27
Speaker
They freaking filmed the shit in Scotland and Mel Gibson was like... Or maybe they filmed it in Ireland.
00:42:32
Speaker
They filmed it in Inverness.
00:42:33
Speaker
I don't really know where that is.
00:42:34
Speaker
I think that's Scotland.
00:42:35
Speaker
Scotland?
00:42:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:37
Speaker
Yeah, it is in Scotland.
00:42:38
Speaker
But he's, he just, he was like, yeah, we just said we film in Scotland and we picked a city and we got there and we realized it's the rainiest part of Scotland, which is one of the rainiest parts of Western Europe.
00:42:48
Speaker
And so it just rained like the whole time.
00:42:49
Speaker
The whole time.
00:42:50
Speaker
Like just.
00:42:50
Speaker
Yeah, I could tell it was super muddy.
00:42:52
Speaker
And the whole time all I could think of was icky toes.
00:42:55
Speaker
Get me in the boat.
00:42:56
Speaker
I don't want to be anywhere near any of that.
00:42:58
Speaker
Yeah, but it was fine, though, because they were wearing leather shoes, and by leather shoes, I mean they took a piece of leather and wrapped it around their foot and then tied it with string, and then they just walked around like that.
00:43:05
Speaker
And then just never untied it for weeks at a time.
00:43:08
Speaker
Never, never.
00:43:10
Speaker
No, not one time.
00:43:13
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I...
00:43:15
Speaker
And fantastic cast.
00:43:16
Speaker
So writer, director, Mel Gibson is the director, wins the best director Oscar.
00:43:22
Speaker
Randall Wallace is the writer who's American from Tennessee.
00:43:25
Speaker
He takes a trip to Scotland.
00:43:26
Speaker
He realizes there's a famous Wallace over there.
00:43:28
Speaker
He's like, maybe that's related to me.
00:43:29
Speaker
And then he writes Braveheart and it's not related to him at all.
00:43:32
Speaker
But and he's like, I don't care if it's real.
00:43:34
Speaker
I just thought it was awesome.
00:43:35
Speaker
And I agree.
00:43:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:39
Speaker
Dude, he wrote Pearl Harbor, too.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:41
Speaker
I was going to say, dude, Randall Wallace is definitely, like, he wrote and directed Man in the Iron Mask, wrote Pearl Harbor, which I really like, directed Secretariat.
00:43:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:54
Speaker
Yeah, I like Pearl Harbor, even though it's Michael Bay and everything's blowing up.
00:44:02
Speaker
Dude, me and you are both on that Pearl Harbor train.
00:44:05
Speaker
It's freaking popcorn movie, shit's exploding.
00:44:08
Speaker
Yeah, everybody's good in it, yeah.
00:44:12
Speaker
A lot of golden hour stuff.
00:44:13
Speaker
Like I, it's great.
00:44:14
Speaker
Magic hour.
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:16
Speaker
Um, dude, John told the cinematographer, he did a bunch of other movies, uh, like, uh, Elizabethtown, almost famous.
00:44:24
Speaker
Nice.
00:44:24
Speaker
Um, a ton, Iron Man three, like he's all over some, one of the matrix movies.
00:44:29
Speaker
Uh, I didn't write down which one, but I remember it would not be in the first one.
00:44:35
Speaker
So, dude, Tropic Thunder.
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:38
Speaker
He's done a cinematography or a bunch of movies that we have seen before.
00:44:43
Speaker
Dude did a pretty good job, I thought.
00:44:46
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:44:48
Speaker
I don't pretend to be any judge of cinematography, but I thought the movie looked great.
00:44:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:53
Speaker
And I think that he has something to do with that.
00:44:55
Speaker
Yeah, he definitely does.
00:44:57
Speaker
He definitely does.
00:44:58
Speaker
The other thing I was going to say is we talked about James Horner a little bit.
00:45:01
Speaker
Did the score...
00:45:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:03
Speaker
But like, I mean, we've talked about James Horner a lot.
00:45:06
Speaker
Like he did aliens.
00:45:07
Speaker
He did freaking an American tale, field of dreams, Apollo 13, beautiful mind, Titanic.
00:45:13
Speaker
Titanic.
00:45:15
Speaker
He is a freaking monster composer who died in a plane crash at age 61.
00:45:19
Speaker
Oh man.
00:45:21
Speaker
But I always like to shout out James Horner because that dude is great.
00:45:24
Speaker
And this score is fantastic.
00:45:25
Speaker
All these people die in plane crashes.
00:45:26
Speaker
We can't get Jon Bon Jovi to take a plane somewhere.
00:45:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:30
Speaker
I mean, the only thing I can say about James Horner is that he was a pilot, so at least that was probably his fault.
00:45:36
Speaker
I don't know that for sure, but he was flying a single engine plane and it crashed.
00:45:40
Speaker
That's not the way you want to go.
00:45:42
Speaker
No, it's not.
00:45:43
Speaker
The other thing I was going to mention is I saw the producer, Alan Ladd Jr. Do you know who Alan Ladd is?
00:45:48
Speaker
Dude, as soon as I saw the name, I was like, Alan Ladd.
00:45:52
Speaker
You've seen it a bunch of times because he worked for 20th Century Fox, and he was this 20th Century Fox executive who approved the production of Star Wars.
00:46:02
Speaker
So every Star Wars movie says somewhere on there, like, Fox, you know, production executive Alan Ladd.
00:46:08
Speaker
Nice.
00:46:09
Speaker
Is he related to Cheryl Ladd?
00:46:12
Speaker
That's his sister-in-law.
00:46:14
Speaker
Oh my God.
00:46:15
Speaker
It's that one with Cheryl Ladd on the cover.
00:46:17
Speaker
Oh wait, except you didn't have the cover because it was a copy.
00:46:22
Speaker
I haven't really had a chance to absorb that one yet, Dick.
00:46:27
Speaker
But yeah, so Alan Ladd was at, I think he was at MGM when this script came on and then he left MGM, but he took the script with him and formed a production company and made it.
00:46:35
Speaker
And so.
00:46:36
Speaker
Nice.
00:46:36
Speaker
That was a good call.
00:46:38
Speaker
That was indeed a good call.
00:46:40
Speaker
But yeah.
00:46:40
Speaker
Nice job.
00:46:41
Speaker
Nice job, Alan Ladd Jr. He's done okay for himself, I would imagine.
00:46:45
Speaker
Yeah, he's probably fine.
00:46:47
Speaker
What other bonus good?
00:46:48
Speaker
Dude, I thought the pre-CGI, like we talked about the battles, I wrote again how awesome that was.
00:46:55
Speaker
And I wrote down James Horner's sweeping Celtic-inspired score was fantastic.
00:47:00
Speaker
Those are the two bonus good that I had.
00:47:03
Speaker
It was great.
00:47:05
Speaker
I saw that it was nominated for a bunch of awards, but people didn't really think it was a serious contender for Best Picture because it was going against Apollo 13, The Postman, Leaving Las Vegas, Sense and Sensibility, Usual Suspects.
00:47:18
Speaker
But then it won Golden Globe for Best Director, and it's like, oh shit, people really like this movie.
00:47:23
Speaker
It might win some stuff.
00:47:24
Speaker
Right.
00:47:24
Speaker
And yeah, I think that's pretty awesome.
00:47:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:29
Speaker
Dude, what...
00:47:32
Speaker
I just, I don't even know.
00:47:35
Speaker
I know like practical effects.
00:47:37
Speaker
You just make robot horses and stuff.
00:47:39
Speaker
Right.
00:47:39
Speaker
Like, I don't even know like how on such a large scale, how you put something like that together.
00:47:45
Speaker
It's just freaking crazy.
00:47:47
Speaker
Well, I was kind of surprised that they could make it for $50 million because they had 1,600 extras and they spent six weeks shooting one battle.
00:47:53
Speaker
It seems like that can't be the right amount of money for that.
00:47:56
Speaker
Did they just rent out all of Scotland for a month and a half and that was all it cost?
00:48:00
Speaker
It seems like it should have been more.
00:48:02
Speaker
Everybody's just so proud of Scotland.
00:48:04
Speaker
They're just like, yeah, put it on film.
00:48:05
Speaker
We love it.
00:48:07
Speaker
I mean, it did a lot of stuff for Scottish tourism.
00:48:12
Speaker
Yeah, I could see that.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah, I was trying to figure out the Prima Noctis thing, because they talk about it in The Office.
00:48:20
Speaker
It's like one of the precipitating events in the movie is that Longshanks is shown invoking Prima Noctis so that his English lords can have sex with brides on their wedding night to breed out the Scottish people.
00:48:32
Speaker
And I was looking at it, and I did some deep diving about that.
00:48:35
Speaker
I mean, I read it on Wikipedia, and it says there's no historical source that seems like that ever happened.
00:48:40
Speaker
Every year when we get to this part of the world, there's some kid that's seen this movie and feels like he watched it as a documentary and he always asks, is that a thing?
00:48:50
Speaker
Because the Roman emperors definitely, people like Caligula, if he came across a wedding, he would stop and like...
00:48:59
Speaker
take take what he thought was his um but like i don't i don't think they've ever had a thing where prima nocte is a thing right well i mean dude that like there's all kind of numbers out there saying how many descendants there are of genghis khan because they famously like yeah yeah they just took their reward as they were conquering people and it's like it's something like yeah
00:49:21
Speaker
a half a percent to 1% of men in the world have genes that link them back to Genghis Khan.
00:49:27
Speaker
And he has something like 16 million male descendants.
00:49:30
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:49:30
Speaker
Uh, but that wasn't like we passed a law that was just Genghis like, I'm gonna have sex with everybody.
00:49:34
Speaker
I'm gonna cut all your heads off.
00:49:35
Speaker
I really don't care which.
00:49:36
Speaker
Right.
00:49:36
Speaker
Right.
00:49:37
Speaker
Um, yeah.
00:49:38
Speaker
Raven pillage and, uh, uh,
00:49:43
Speaker
Sacking a city and taking the booty has two meanings when it's gangsta gone.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yes, and one of them is gold.
00:49:50
Speaker
Right.
00:49:50
Speaker
One of them is booty.
00:49:52
Speaker
One of them is not.
00:49:53
Speaker
Did you have any worst?
00:49:55
Speaker
Dude, I didn't like the subplot with the Wallace and Princess Isabel, like how she was swooning over him.
00:50:01
Speaker
I didn't like that.
00:50:02
Speaker
And the whole Edward II being effeminate and weak or homosexual or whatever they were making him.
00:50:09
Speaker
I didn't like that part, but other than that, that was...
00:50:12
Speaker
I thought it worked fine for the movie.
00:50:14
Speaker
I mean, it's, I think the, you could definitely criticize the historical inaccuracy and people, plenty of people did.
00:50:20
Speaker
I don't care because I thought it was awesome, but yeah, it's completely not at all the way that it happened in like sometimes ludicrous, like stretches like dude, the kilt and the blue face paint, those, those things exist in Scottish history, a thousand years apart and no bridge.
00:50:36
Speaker
Right.
00:50:36
Speaker
And no bridge at the battle of Sterling bridge.
00:50:38
Speaker
Right.
00:50:39
Speaker
Right.
00:50:40
Speaker
Old tech.
00:50:41
Speaker
I had horses question mark horse robot horses.
00:50:44
Speaker
It's pretty old tech robot horses.
00:50:48
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I mean... Yeah, I didn't.
00:50:51
Speaker
I didn't really have any worse for this.
00:50:53
Speaker
I don't even have... I mean, I guess political incorrectness, they got an Irishman playing the Scott and they got Scots playing Irishman.
00:50:57
Speaker
That's just... Yeah.
00:50:59
Speaker
As far as I'm concerned, everyone over in the British Isles is all the same and I can't tell the accents apart.
00:51:04
Speaker
Cool, we just lost all of our listeners over in the British Isles.
00:51:07
Speaker
Bye to the both of you.
00:51:08
Speaker
No, I mean, that's not their fault.
00:51:11
Speaker
That's my fault, but I'm just saying I can't tell.
00:51:12
Speaker
Wales is all going black right now.
00:51:15
Speaker
Everybody's turning it off.
00:51:16
Speaker
I'm not going to lie.
00:51:17
Speaker
I could not point to Wales on a map, even if you just zoomed in.
00:51:20
Speaker
No, I could not.
00:51:21
Speaker
Isn't that where Catherine Zeta-Jones is from?
00:51:23
Speaker
You could totally point to it.
00:51:24
Speaker
I could point to Catherine Zeta-Jones if I see her, but I could not point to Wales.
00:51:28
Speaker
No, dude, I was trying to work on my Scottish accent.
00:51:31
Speaker
I was like, is that Irish?
00:51:32
Speaker
That might even be Japanese.
00:51:33
Speaker
I'm not sure what's happening there.
00:51:35
Speaker
I know you did a Scottish accent earlier, and all I could think of was, get in my belly!
00:51:40
Speaker
That's hard.
00:51:40
Speaker
It's hard not to go that far with it.
00:51:43
Speaker
I got my baby back, baby back, baby back.
00:51:46
Speaker
Okay, donkey.
00:51:47
Speaker
That sounds good.
00:51:49
Speaker
We've had enough.
00:51:51
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:51:54
Speaker
Five questions.
00:51:55
Speaker
Five questions?
00:51:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:56
Speaker
Dude, this is rated R. Rated R. Hard R. Hard R. Like 16, 17.
00:52:00
Speaker
Not that R. I was going to say 16 is what I put.
00:52:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:06
Speaker
A lot of blood and guts and sex.
00:52:07
Speaker
Although I feel like he would have approved of the sex scenes because there was not a lot of gratuitous nudity.
00:52:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:13
Speaker
It was like dark shapes and then they would cut quickly to the next thing.
00:52:16
Speaker
Right.
00:52:17
Speaker
It's not that bad.
00:52:18
Speaker
They just show the curtains moving and then they go to the next scene.
00:52:22
Speaker
I, yeah, that part really wasn't the problem.
00:52:25
Speaker
It's just the blood and guts because it's so, it's practical effects.
00:52:30
Speaker
It's like, it's brutal.
00:52:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:32
Speaker
It's brutal.
00:52:32
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:52:35
Speaker
What's the next one?
00:52:36
Speaker
What was it?
00:52:37
Speaker
Go ahead.
00:52:38
Speaker
I was going to say, this relates to Braveheart not at all, but I got bored and I was re-watching Dawson's Creek, which I don't think I've seen since it came out in the 90s.
00:52:47
Speaker
And I didn't watch it a lot, so I don't know very much about it.
00:52:49
Speaker
But I was like, dude, the 90s were a freaking wild time.
00:52:52
Speaker
The whole first season of Dawson's Creek has a subplot that runs throughout the entire thing where Joshua Jackson's character is having sex with his high school teacher and he's 15 in the show.
00:53:03
Speaker
And I was like...
00:53:04
Speaker
It seems like we should probably, like, should have known better even in 98, but, like, they were just like, yeah, man, just freaking let it fly.
00:53:10
Speaker
This is the biggest show on TV.
00:53:13
Speaker
Everybody's got their shirt sleeves down here on their sweaters, and everybody is totally just having sex with these.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah, everybody's wearing baggy clothes.
00:53:19
Speaker
James Van Der Beek's got the same hairstyle as I got right now.
00:53:22
Speaker
It's great.
00:53:26
Speaker
It's a point, but like 90s was a different time.
00:53:27
Speaker
But yeah, this movie's got a lot of blood, a lot of guts.
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:31
Speaker
15, 16 is definitely the answer.
00:53:34
Speaker
Would this movie get made if it were pitched now?
00:53:36
Speaker
You got to shorten it up, dude.
00:53:38
Speaker
Nobody ever like this is the beginning of the school year.
00:53:41
Speaker
And I'm like, hey, what have you all heard about this class?
00:53:44
Speaker
Oh, it's easy, but I hate history.
00:53:46
Speaker
Like every single person is like, I hate history.
00:53:48
Speaker
Nice.
00:53:49
Speaker
So if you're going to tell a story about history, it has to be like this where there's just blood and guts and boobs and stuff.
00:53:56
Speaker
Otherwise, people are watching.
00:53:59
Speaker
Do you think it's kind of surprising that we haven't seen a lot of remakes of these historical epic movies?
00:54:06
Speaker
They remade True Grit.
00:54:07
Speaker
Why haven't they remade any of these historical movies?
00:54:10
Speaker
Westerns are coming back, but not these.
00:54:13
Speaker
Dude, ancient history, nobody likes this.
00:54:16
Speaker
There are people...
00:54:18
Speaker
um that aren't on this podcast that group uh gladiator and braveheart and everything all together like troy and kingdom of heaven and anything where people don't have ac just gets lumped together way back in the gap and that uh that kind of sucks because i know there's difference but i also talk about that stuff every year so like i don't know i don't know i i don't think you i don't think you make it not if you want people that i teach to watch it
00:54:45
Speaker
Yeah, and I guess they still make stuff like this as TV shows.
00:54:50
Speaker
Was that Vikings or Norsemen?
00:54:53
Speaker
There's a bunch of shows like that.
00:54:55
Speaker
And everything's real freaking dark and moody.
00:54:58
Speaker
I mean, if you want to go with the War for Scottish Independence, the first one, you could make it more historically accurate and tell the story and use William Wallace, but I don't see him.
00:55:12
Speaker
I don't think you can make it again.
00:55:13
Speaker
Or you could.
00:55:14
Speaker
I just don't think anybody watches it.
00:55:15
Speaker
By the way, they said in this movie a couple times, William Wallace said, like, we'll have something that none of us for our whole lives have ever had, which is a country of our own.
00:55:22
Speaker
And when the real William Wallace was born, Scotland was its own country.
00:55:25
Speaker
And it only got taken over by England when its king died and there was no successor.
00:55:29
Speaker
Right.
00:55:30
Speaker
So real William Wallace had Scotland of his own.
00:55:33
Speaker
Literally, we have it at home.
00:55:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:36
Speaker
All I thought of when that was was like when Jake's like, God, I guess the Saints are going to suck again.
00:55:42
Speaker
I was like, again?
00:55:42
Speaker
They've always sucked.
00:55:43
Speaker
They were just good.
00:55:45
Speaker
For a small part, you just weren't alive for it.
00:55:47
Speaker
So like you missed it.
00:55:48
Speaker
Yeah, they were good for three years while you were not alive.
00:55:51
Speaker
But it was pretty recently.
00:55:52
Speaker
Yeah, but they all.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah, so you could do it as a TV show.
00:55:56
Speaker
I don't know that anyone is going to.
00:55:58
Speaker
But at some point, maybe.
00:55:59
Speaker
Somebody would be like, dude, it would be great if you had kilts.
00:56:01
Speaker
Yeah, did you recast it?
00:56:03
Speaker
Because I want Tom Hardy to play William Wallace or play the main character.
00:56:09
Speaker
I like that dude, and I think you could do this.
00:56:11
Speaker
Dude, I was trying to find actual Scottish actors, and that was really... It was like, I got Gerard Butler, but he's kind of too old.
00:56:21
Speaker
I got James McAvoy, who I think can do anything.
00:56:24
Speaker
So he was kind of my choice.
00:56:26
Speaker
He could just make his beard real shaggy.
00:56:28
Speaker
Is he big enough?
00:56:29
Speaker
Like, I don't know.
00:56:30
Speaker
I just like.
00:56:30
Speaker
Dude, he's as big as Mel Gibson.
00:56:32
Speaker
Is Mel Gibson that big?
00:56:34
Speaker
I don't know.
00:56:35
Speaker
They both seem like they're like 5'8", 5'9".
00:56:37
Speaker
Real William Wallace is supposed to be huge, by the way.
00:56:39
Speaker
He's supposed to be like 6'7".
00:56:40
Speaker
7 foot tall, 50 men if there was one.
00:56:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:43
Speaker
Flames out of his arse.
00:56:44
Speaker
But, dude, like, so like James McAvoy would be my pick because I love that guy.
00:56:49
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good call.
00:56:50
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good call.
00:56:52
Speaker
Can you still enjoy it, though?
00:56:53
Speaker
Dude, it's great.
00:56:54
Speaker
If you've got three hours to kill.
00:56:56
Speaker
There were people that I talked to when I said I was doing this movie, and they haven't seen it.
00:57:00
Speaker
And they... I was like, you need to watch it.
00:57:03
Speaker
It's really good.
00:57:05
Speaker
Here's the thing, man.
00:57:06
Speaker
This movie's so long.
00:57:07
Speaker
It was like you at one point.
00:57:08
Speaker
I accidentally clicked on the bar, and it was like...
00:57:11
Speaker
Oh, I'm an hour 10 in.
00:57:13
Speaker
Oh, I've got an hour 50 to go.
00:57:14
Speaker
Yeah, way more.
00:57:15
Speaker
And I was like, all right, this part's, maybe I'll just pull my phone out.
00:57:18
Speaker
This part looks like it's kind of, and I just, I couldn't even look at my phone while the movie was happening because too much cool shit was happening on screen.
00:57:25
Speaker
I could not.
00:57:26
Speaker
Even if it wasn't like battles and stuff, the story was moving forward really quickly.
00:57:30
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:57:31
Speaker
Like I thought I would zone out for a little bit and like do a little recharge and then get back into it.
00:57:34
Speaker
And I couldn't do it because it was too engrossing.
00:57:36
Speaker
So I just think this is freaking great.
00:57:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:40
Speaker
And there are people with way better attention spans than me that probably would have blown through this.
00:57:43
Speaker
Made it through the whole thing.
00:57:45
Speaker
Except in turn Mike who refuses to pay $2.99 for a movie.
00:57:48
Speaker
where did you speaking of which i i watched it on paramount plus yeah because i get that free from somewhere um yeah i get it free from comcast that's where i got i got halfway through it at work no not halfway like i don't know 10 minutes in at work and i paused it went to go to the bathroom came back on my lunch break unpaused it and the site was blocked
00:58:11
Speaker
uh by the school district so i had to finish it i had to start it over at the house um but paramount plus had it it was a pretty good copy it was in surround sound and stuff at the house it was good it was good yeah that was the only place i saw that you could get it for free and then you can rent it wherever you want but yeah paramount plus that was my answer as well yeah yeah well i mean that's actually a streaming site i don't pay for i get it for free with my internet so yeah yeah um free ish free ish ish
00:58:38
Speaker
Dude, so we didn't talk about what we wanted to do next, and I was looking at the list.
00:58:43
Speaker
Okay, cool.
00:58:44
Speaker
I looked at it too, so you tell me which ones you looked at.
00:58:46
Speaker
I got two that I want to pitch, just because I need something lighter and shorter.
00:58:52
Speaker
All right.
00:58:53
Speaker
I want Bye Bye Love or While You Were Sleeping.
00:58:56
Speaker
Okay, the two that I looked at next is Bye Bye Love and Toy Story.
00:59:00
Speaker
ooh bye bye love is the answer bye bye love it is that's the crossover nice oh man alright so we got Adventures in Babysitting out on Patreon Patreon folks if you have not checked that out please go ahead and do that that's a completely freaking ludicrous movie but we have now done it oh ludicrous super sugar crisp dude why that dude I'm excited for bye bye love you know Joe Joe Joe I know Joe fine yes
00:59:30
Speaker
I can't wait to watch that movie.
00:59:32
Speaker
I love it.
00:59:32
Speaker
It's impossible to find on the internet for anyone else who wants to watch it.
00:59:36
Speaker
But yeah.
00:59:39
Speaker
We've seen it.
00:59:39
Speaker
We got Patreon, Adventures of Babysitting out, plus a bunch of other 1987 movies.
00:59:43
Speaker
And we'll be back in two weeks on the main feed with Bye Bye Love.
00:59:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:47
Speaker
Bye, I can do this.
00:59:48
Speaker
Bye, I can do this.
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Speaker
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00:59:57
Speaker
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00:59:59
Speaker
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