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Trainspotting
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Want to do heroin like a pro? Want to see lots of fecal matter flung about? Love thick scottish accents? THIS IS THE FILM FOR YOU.
The revolutionary and actually kinda amazingly well made movie is this week on Movielife Crisis. We don't know why either.
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Opening Jokes and Podcasting Challenges
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JT Spangler
On me in three.
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Jeff
Somebody told me.
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JT Spangler
Hey, all right, let's try it again.
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Jeff
the
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Jeff
They said it was hilarious.
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JT Spangler
Did you? Boy, that was a great trailer. That
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Jeff
I thought you were going to go with the Scottish accent when you said, that was a great trailer.
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JT Spangler
was a great, it's a great job.
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Jeff
I like it a lot.
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JT Spangler
It's bloody wanker. I don't know what words that they say are bad words. I don't know which words I can repeat. This shite. Yeah,
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Jeff
Shite, I think, is fine. The C word, which they use like a comma over there, you probably shouldn't say that here.
00:01:23
JT Spangler
yeah. yeah they're big fans of that. But Marsha Blackburn is my senator. Are you sure I can't use it at all? um Dude, this freaking, the new software we're using, people were like, hey, was there a big dead space during
Scheduling and Marketing Insights
00:01:36
JT Spangler
your last podcast?
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JT Spangler
was like yeah, i don't want to talk about it. But ah the point is, it's terrible and I hate it, but we paid for it, so here we are.
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Jeff
Yeah.
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Jeff
Yeah. People keep sending it to me. Hey man, something's wrong with your stuff. It's not showing stuff. I was like, I don't know. That's not me. That's the other guy.
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JT Spangler
Yeah.
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Jeff
I was on there.
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JT Spangler
Yeah. But the trailers have been too quiet, was like, let me turn this one all the way up, and it but almost burst my eardrums.
00:01:55
Jeff
That's awesome. It was definitely loud, but I like it loud. It makes me feel like I'm there.
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JT Spangler
Movie Life Crisis, season six, episode seven, Trainspotting.
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Jeff
Six, seven, man. Six, seven.
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JT Spangler
Because we did the birdcage last We were like, this was ah just a fun, lighthearted romp.
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Jeff
It was delight.
00:02:12
JT Spangler
Like, let's do let's mix it up. Let's do Trainspotting, the movie where people died and I wish to one of them had been me.
00:02:20
Jeff
The pendulum swung all the way back after Birdcage.
00:02:24
JT Spangler
Yeah, i told ah I told my wife last night, she's like, hey, you want to watch a new episode of Rooster?
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Jeff
a
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JT Spangler
i was like, I would love to, but I got to watch a podcast movie. She's like, what are you going watch? Trainspotting. She's like, oh, why are you doing that? i was like, I don't know. It's on the schedule.
00:02:37
Jeff
Dude, I felt like we had to do this one. I'd only seen it once before this, so like I felt like I remembered enough about it, but I did not.
00:02:43
JT Spangler
Yeah, it's cool that even though it's just me and you, and theoretically we should be able to do whatever we want, we both are still like, what why do what do we why do
Trainspotting Overview and Misconceptions
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JT Spangler
we do that? like well There's no boss, it's us.
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JT Spangler
We could just decide differently.
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Jeff
We are the boss, and we still are like, yeah, we should probably you know do that one.
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JT Spangler
Yeah, yeah, I can't, gotta work late tonight. Boss is making me for the podcast.
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Jeff
Stupid boss.
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JT Spangler
ah Yeah, man, so this is a happy, fun time.
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Jeff
Yeah, this ah dude, it was right in the middle of that, like ah Brit pop time of all of that. um And like, if you look at the marketing stuff that they have on IMDb, like the posters and things, it's marketed like a band.
00:03:24
Jeff
Like it looks like they're releasing an album almost. That's the type of ah posters they have. And I think that made people want to go see it.
00:03:36
Jeff
Um, uh,
00:03:37
JT Spangler
Dude, I was, yeah, I mean, it will was a it didn't make that much money. It was 97 on the year, but it they made it for like 40 bucks. so
00:03:47
Jeff
yeah Oh, yeah, that's different.
00:03:48
JT Spangler
But it's been so long since I saw this that I thought two things. Number one, I thought before it started, I thought for sure this was Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. And even after I realized it wasn't, I was like, oh, I guess this is one of the other Guy Ritchie movies.
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Jeff
yeah
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JT Spangler
And I thought until the end credits rolled that it was Guy Ritchie. And I was like, what the?
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Jeff
Oh.
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JT Spangler
I've never even heard of this guy, Danny Boyle, director?
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Jeff
Yeah, but you have, though, huh?
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JT Spangler
I have after the fact, but what I'm saying, like, clearly I was not super locked into this movie because I had no idea who was responsible for it the whole time.
00:04:09
Jeff
you've you've Yeah.
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Jeff
Right. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure that 40 bucks went straight to the heroin. Uh, that's what they had to buy and with the $40.
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JT Spangler
Yeah, man.
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Jeff
I dude, it's again, you're right. They didn't make a lot of money, but since they didn't spend that much, they still made money.
00:04:30
JT Spangler
Well, Blair Witch Project. It's like, hey, we spent $100,000 and we made 17 millions.
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Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
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JT Spangler
Pretty good return.
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Jeff
Right. Yeah. It works out.
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JT Spangler
um But yeah, man, what's the synopsis?
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Jeff
That works out.
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JT Spangler
i I would love to hear you explain this movie.
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Jeff
All right. Um, this one is, uh, I don't know. I wrote two. So ah one just says a heroin addict tries to leave behind drugs, his friends and the romanticism of self-destruction before it kills him.
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Jeff
The twist is that he loves all of them and wants to keep going back.
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JT Spangler
Okay, what's the other one?
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Jeff
I went a little deeper on that one. So it was like um Mark written a witty self loathing heroin addict and Edinburgh keeps trying to get clean and quote choose life, like he says in the beginning, and on the trailer, but every attempt to escape gets dragged back by his own appetite is chaotic friends and is dead and gravity of his environment.
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JT Spangler
Yeah. And also heroin, because that shit's not designed to let you off.
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Jeff
Yeah, that's not that's not one of those to let you off. I don't i think I knew how heroin worked, but when I was looking at it, i was like, what are they? Is it brown?
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Jeff
i didn't Why did I think it was white?
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JT Spangler
Dude, I thought black tar heroin was a thing. i know like cocaine and crack is like this. Like I'm like Googling money laundering in the dictionary. That's how big of a nerd I am.
00:05:55
JT Spangler
Dude, like I've been, you know, I went to college. i was i saw some drugs. I mostly did not partake because I didn't like to spend money on that.
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Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
But I was like around people that were like taking pills and doing cocaine and like, but I don't think anyone ever was like, Hey man, we hold this belt while I inject something into my veins. I don't think I would have hung for that.
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Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
I'd have been like, maybe I'll just, we'll just catch you.
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Jeff
I don't think that's the one you want to be around for.
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JT Spangler
I'll just catch you in class on Tuesday. Maybe I don't need to be here. I know I'm up next.
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Jeff
ah Hold the spoon straight. I
Emotional Impact of Movies
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Jeff
can't heat it up if you don't hold the spoon straight or something like that.
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JT Spangler
I know I'm, I know it's almost my turn in goldeneye, but I'll just, I'm just going to catch you guys class.
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Jeff
I'll just, I'll just go someplace else and play Madden 96. Thank you.
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JT Spangler
yeah No odd job. That's the rule. ah Yeah, dude. i So I don't know anything about what was happening.
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Jeff
But here's the thing too, like as I was trying to put together the synopsis, um
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JT Spangler
ah
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Jeff
the whole thing is like a sensory assault. There's like frigging like the, I don't know, like frenetic editing.
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JT Spangler
Yeah.
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Jeff
Everything's jumping all around. There's like freeze frames and like he's talking directly to the audience and like,
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JT Spangler
Well... And there's like weird camera angles and it's like, there's handheld shit and there's like fisheye lenses and and yeah.
00:07:05
Jeff
And then there's fantasy, like the intrusion of like the fantasy thing where that's not even really actually happening.
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JT Spangler
Right.
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Jeff
Plus the soundtrack is not my favorite kind of music, but it's popular.
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JT Spangler
No.
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Jeff
It's like Iggy Pop and frigging the blur and all that blur.
00:07:20
JT Spangler
And also like there wasn't really a score. It was kind of only soundtrack.
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Jeff
Yeah.
00:07:24
JT Spangler
Or like even if there was a if even if there was instrumental music, it wasn't like someone someone composed it.
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Jeff
Yeah.
00:07:28
JT Spangler
It's like they just took a pops like a whatever funk song and whatever they were using and just took the lyrics out.
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Jeff
Right.
00:07:35
Jeff
Right. Well, what about, so is this a coming of age story in a broader sense?
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JT Spangler
ah did i think they were No, I think they were already like of age. They were in their twenty s
00:07:44
Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
Um, anyway, this thing was made for 1.5 million pounds, which is maybe about a million dollars that point in time.
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Jeff
Yeah.
00:07:50
JT Spangler
And it grows $22 million. dollars So 22 X is a pretty good return.
00:07:54
Jeff
That's pretty good.
00:07:55
JT Spangler
It's fantastic return, probably the best return of a movie this year.
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Jeff
That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.
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Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
but it ends up being like barely in the top hundred.
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Jeff
Even though it's in the nineties. Right.
00:08:04
JT Spangler
Um, Yeah, and it won some awards. People, like, loved this movie. The freaking script won a BAFTA, and then, I don't know.
00:08:11
Jeff
But so what do you think they liked about it?
00:08:15
JT Spangler
I mean, it was ah it was well done. I have it in my notes. I'm like, dude, it's well-directed. It's well-acted. It's well-written. It's got a great soundtrack.
00:08:23
Jeff
Yeah. Right.
00:08:24
JT Spangler
not movie Not music I care about, but, like, the soundtrack did huge.
00:08:28
Jeff
Right.
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JT Spangler
It's revolutionary in some ways. I fucking hated I... i So I like, I recognize like, man, they're all, it's kind of like, I don't hate Taylor Swift, but I can go like, I can tell she's doing a good job, but I don't care about it at all.
00:08:41
Jeff
Right. Right.
00:08:42
JT Spangler
Uh, and this was like that, except even more strongly, like I can tell this is very well done, but there's no chance I would ever subject myself to this voluntarily again.
00:08:46
Jeff
Except dead babies.
00:08:51
Jeff
Right. That's so this.
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JT Spangler
um
00:08:53
Jeff
Like, what do you know how like, Hey, I'll just put this on while I fold clothes. um So I can watch it bedazzled again. That's not, you know, that's not this one. You know i'm saying? Like, it feels like this.
00:09:05
Jeff
I don't know. Maybe this hits home for a lot of people, but I'm not those people.
00:09:10
JT Spangler
Well, dude, I was thinking about it because I like i try to keep it in my mind. The mental framing that I use is like the purpose of the function of art, any kind of art, is to provoke an emotional response in the audience.
00:09:22
Jeff
Right. Make you feel.
00:09:23
JT Spangler
And this does that. It just isn't one that I want.
00:09:24
Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
i don't want...
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Jeff
Right.
00:09:27
JT Spangler
art to make me sad and uncomfortable and weird.
00:09:31
Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
I want it to make me shiny and happy.
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Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
That's the kind of art I like.
00:09:35
Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
Like Project Hail Mary, delightful. ate a freaking entire tub of popcorn, had such a good time. I was laughing.
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Jeff
Right.
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JT Spangler
ah Like this, i was like, this is a horrible, I mean, it's good because it made me feel things, but I didn't want to feel them and I don't want to feel them anymore and I don't like it.
00:09:48
Jeff
Right.
00:09:53
Jeff
Yeah, same. Exactly the same.
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JT Spangler
and they made us And they made a spinoff to this like 10 years ago, which
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Jeff
T2.
Cultural Influence and Personal Experiences
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Jeff
Are we going to do this? Are we going to do this T2? We did the other T2.
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JT Spangler
I totally missed.
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JT Spangler
Well, in 2047, I'm willing to have that conversation. The AI versions of us will maybe do that.
00:10:09
Jeff
Dude, they had a thing. They had a thing for the kids today and one of them, a bunch of kindergartners showed up to talk to the seniors and it was the class of 2038. was 2038. That's like flying cars.
00:10:21
Jeff
it's like flying cars
00:10:23
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, that's like...
00:10:23
Jeff
I'm going to be 60 years old.
00:10:24
JT Spangler
great
00:10:25
Jeff
I'm not i'm never even going see those kids graduate. I'm not doing this for that long.
00:10:27
JT Spangler
ah Well, that's the, but the, but the like computer generated AI version of you probably will. And then like your kids will just get paid on that. No, they won't get paid because so it'll be AI.
00:10:37
Jeff
No.
00:10:37
JT Spangler
But like, instead of hiring a teacher, when you die, they'll just take all the recordings of your lessons and just freaking Tupac hologram you into the classroom.
00:10:45
Jeff
Can we do taxidermy instead?
00:10:46
JT Spangler
And
00:10:47
Jeff
I would really like to still be in there.
00:10:51
JT Spangler
I will make your wishes known the that you want to be taxidermied. Yeah.
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Jeff
in the classroom.
00:10:57
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:11:00
Jeff
Oh man. so That's so stupid. The, um did you see the spinoff of the TV series by the way of Begbie?
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JT Spangler
I didn't. i
00:11:06
JT Spangler
No. No.
00:11:07
Jeff
It's called the blade artist. It's about the crazy guy, Begbie.
00:11:12
JT Spangler
God.
00:11:12
Jeff
I watched some like clips on the thing.
00:11:13
JT Spangler
He's horrible.
00:11:16
Jeff
I do not want to be friends with somebody that's like that. Somebody who always just wants to fight and just is crazy.
00:11:20
JT Spangler
I don't.
00:11:23
Jeff
Well,
00:11:24
JT Spangler
It's not even that he wanted to fight. Like, because, I mean, like, we're from a small town. Sometimes you're friends with people, you go like, if we didn't grow up together, I probably wouldn't hang out with this guy. And there was definitely times, especially in like our late teens and early twenties when like people have so much testosterone and not a lot of experience handling alcohol where it's like, is that guy going to try to fight again?
00:11:33
Jeff
Absolutely.
00:11:43
JT Spangler
That's so dumb. But this guy was like beyond the age when you should have been doing that. And also he wasn't just like, he might just like take a swing at a tourist.
00:11:48
Jeff
Carry the knife. Yeah.
00:11:51
JT Spangler
Like he kept pulling his knife, even on his friends.
00:11:54
Jeff
Yeah.
00:11:54
JT Spangler
I don't, I mean, my personal feeling is like, I would rather my friends not pull knives on me. That's just how I feel.
00:12:00
Jeff
That's just, that's how I roll also. I could see why he stole the money.
00:12:01
JT Spangler
That's, that's how I get down.
00:12:03
Jeff
So, I mean, I would have taken this money too.
00:12:04
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, that guy, I would have but stopped being friends with him way before. Like when he broke into his apartment and then sold his TV for, uh, I would have been, Hey man, don't sell my TV.
00:12:16
JT Spangler
I use that to watch stuff, but also,
00:12:18
Jeff
Yeah. It was such a nice TV too. Yeah.
00:12:20
JT Spangler
Also, Obi-Wan was a dick because he freaking stole the guy's sex tape with his girlfriend, and then that's why the girlfriend broke up with him, and that's why the guy started doing heroin. Like, they were all horrible.
00:12:31
Jeff
We're really selling this movie, huh? it's
00:12:34
JT Spangler
People love this movie. We're not those people, and here we are.
00:12:36
Jeff
Yeah.
00:12:37
JT Spangler
Well, I mean—
00:12:37
Jeff
Yeah. It's the emotional response, yeah like you said.
00:12:40
JT Spangler
But here's the fun thing about doing a podcast, especially this podcast, is like we're not trying to tell you which movies are good. We're only telling you what we like and don't like.
00:12:49
Jeff
Right. Right.
00:12:50
JT Spangler
And I know for a fact because I have friends that listen to this and shout at their car radios about how wrong we are about stuff.
00:12:56
Jeff
Yeah.
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JT Spangler
I think that's awesome.
00:12:57
Jeff
Yeah. Same. All the people I work with are like, how, why would you even say that? That's so silly. was like, that's how I feel. Step off.
00:13:04
JT Spangler
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:05
Jeff
Don't listen.
00:13:05
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, dive I love when someone messages me and is like, dude, I really enjoy your podcast, except for all of your opinions on movies, which are totally wrong.
00:13:06
Jeff
but
00:13:12
JT Spangler
like, that shit is great for me.
00:13:13
Jeff
That's great. Just anger listening.
00:13:14
JT Spangler
I'm delighted. Yeah. um
00:13:20
Jeff
It's great.
00:13:20
JT Spangler
Yeah. Wait until we get to bedazzled and we give it 10 out of 10.
00:13:23
Jeff
Oh God. Is there an eleven
00:13:25
JT Spangler
ah
00:13:26
Jeff
I love that movie so much.
00:13:27
JT Spangler
ah Do you remember seeing this for the first time? Because I clearly don't remember.
00:13:31
Jeff
I definitely do It was a DVD that I purchased thinking I needed to have it because everybody was talking about it, how awesome it was and how it was like the new hotness that everybody should see. um But I didn't get it until like ah what's the one with Leonardo DiCaprio that he does, the beach, he does, Danny Boyle does the beach.
00:13:54
JT Spangler
The beach. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:56
Jeff
I saw that and it's weird also. And I kind of liked it. And then somebody is like, Oh, you got to get that one.
00:14:00
JT Spangler
i like that one too.
00:14:02
Jeff
The one with Ian McGregor, he's got like the lifeless ordinary and train spotting. He's in both of those. You would get, you got to get them. They're so good. And I got both of them. And I think I only watched train spotting once.
00:14:14
Jeff
Yeah.
00:14:15
JT Spangler
Yeah. I like the beach. Uh, I don't remember like that one I've seen a couple of times and I much prefer it, even though it's also weird. And I, I, I know like you can look at this guy's frigging, I did the biggest movie Danny Boyle ever did is slumdog millionaire.
00:14:25
Jeff
beg Yeah.
00:14:27
JT Spangler
That's a weird ass movie.
00:14:28
Jeff
Yeah, it is. the ah The guy who plays ah Stabby McStabberson, Begby, he he's in the beach.
00:14:34
JT Spangler
Yeah, Begbie. He's in The Beach, too. A bunch of the same people, like the same same screenwriter, same director, like a bunch of the same actors.
00:14:37
Jeff
ah
00:14:39
Jeff
Yeah.
00:14:41
JT Spangler
like These guys have worked together more than once, which i like I mean, I like when that happens.
00:14:43
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:45
JT Spangler
That means they're having fun together, making horrible shit that i don't want to watch.
00:14:46
Jeff
Seems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:50
JT Spangler
But I don't think, i mean, like I don't think, like if I run into Ewan McGregor, I don't think he would be upset if I was like train spotting that movie. He's freaking tripped me out. I don't like it. Like, I don't think he would punch me or pull a knife.
00:14:59
Jeff
yeah
00:15:01
JT Spangler
I think he'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. I get that.
00:15:04
Jeff
I don't, so um I probably missed it because I was why is it called Trainspotting again?
00:15:12
JT Spangler
I do. Apparently and in the book, there was a scene where they were like out there doing something. And one of their, one of the the boys dad said, Oh yeah, train spotting, which I guess just means you're just looking at trains.
00:15:24
Jeff
Oh, that's a thing for sure.
00:15:24
JT Spangler
up But I think that, I think that part of the book maybe was shot, but then deleted. And then they're like, this movie is so weird.
00:15:29
Jeff
yeah
00:15:31
JT Spangler
It doesn't even matter if the title doesn't make any reference to anything else.
00:15:35
Jeff
You can call it whatever you want. and Strawberry Shortcake land.
00:15:37
JT Spangler
Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter.
00:15:39
Jeff
Can't call that.
00:15:39
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:15:39
Jeff
Well, I just did.
00:15:40
JT Spangler
Yeah. And dude, I, I like, I remember the poster and I remember what Ewan McGregor looks like. Cause he's all free. He lost like 30 pounds and he wasn't fat to begin with.
00:15:46
Jeff
Yeah.
00:15:48
JT Spangler
He's just looks like a fricking microphone stand.
00:15:48
Jeff
Yeah. Eyes are all sunken in.
00:15:50
JT Spangler
We're in like, we're in like child's medium t-shirts.
00:15:50
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:15:54
JT Spangler
ah
00:15:54
Jeff
so yeah. Yo, what's up with that?
00:15:55
JT Spangler
He's, he,
00:15:56
Jeff
He had a lot midriff show. It was like a freaking Shania Twain video.
00:16:00
JT Spangler
Yeah, did He has belly shirt. He has super tight jeans on, which for the 90s was like a bold choice because you could, the jeans that I was wearing in the 90s, I could put several Ewan McGregors inside of them. And his shit was like so tight I could see they had leg hairs through them.
00:16:13
Jeff
Yeah. um That ends up becoming the next big thing. That's that whole um Brit pop thing. That's where those tight jeans come from.
00:16:23
JT Spangler
Yeah. But I don't think I saw the whole movie and I'm sure of it because none of it felt familiar to me at all. And I also know ah how I felt about it now is how I would have felt about it when I was 16.
00:16:34
Jeff
Yeah.
00:16:34
JT Spangler
I'd be like, what the, I'm not watching this.
00:16:36
Jeff
It doesn't bring back all those heroin memories that you, when you used to do heroin.
00:16:36
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:16:39
JT Spangler
yeah I'm like, where'd I put my bad boys to tape?
00:16:39
Jeff
No. Yeah.
00:16:41
JT Spangler
Let's put that in.
00:16:44
Jeff
the tape. Wow. um
00:16:47
JT Spangler
but We were, we were still heavy VHS in the in the mid nineties.
00:16:49
Jeff
Yeah. No, we were too. So... um
00:16:52
JT Spangler
I mean, some people were on DVDs, but you get like the combo like VHS that also had a DVD.
00:16:53
Jeff
so
00:16:57
JT Spangler
Yeah, we could do both.
00:16:58
Jeff
dude So one of the kids asked me um earlier this week, Mr. Horner, what was Divix? I found something in my parents thing that was Divix. And I was like, oh, man, I remember that.
00:17:10
Jeff
And I couldn't remember what it was. And I forgot to look it up until you just said that. I think it's like you can only watch it once and then like it doesn't allow you to watch it again. Or once you started watching it, it unlocks it it for a certain amount of time or something.
00:17:23
Jeff
Don't you remember that?
00:17:23
JT Spangler
yeah i Yeah, I think it, I thought it was like a, it was like, it was, DivX was a video codec, but I think what you're saying is like, like, yeah, they would like send it to you, but then you had to rent it to like kind of unlock it to, I had to, I don't remember that.
00:17:40
Jeff
Um, I remember, and the kid had asked me because he said he saw it in his, he was like opening drawers looking for a movie and he came across one of his dad's movies.
00:17:42
JT Spangler
Jeez.
00:17:50
Jeff
It was the, the Patriot with Mel Gibson.
00:17:52
JT Spangler
Yeah, Mel Gibson.
00:17:54
Jeff
Um, I don't, i was like, dude, I totally, i remember something like that, but I don't remember what it's about. Um,
00:18:03
JT Spangler
Yeah, i never ah I never participated in that one. I remember, I've heard of DivX, but I don't think I ever owned one. as But the amount of tech that's totally, like, remember you had like your regular floppy drives, which held whatever 1.5 megabytes of information.
00:18:15
Jeff
Yeah. Right.
00:18:17
JT Spangler
And then you had like a zip drive, which is like a really chunky floppy drive that held like 100 megabytes.
00:18:22
Jeff
Right.
00:18:22
JT Spangler
But there were way more money. But unlike a CD or a DVD, you could keep reusing them. Like I had one of those, I carried a f freaking zip drive thing around for like years.
00:18:27
Jeff
Yeah.
00:18:31
Jeff
um By the way, the the icon is still a floppy disk when it says to save. And I heard some kids trying to save something earlier this week and they said, just click on the little coaster thing, the building, click on that to save it. And i was like, that's not a building or a coaster.
00:18:48
Jeff
That's a floppy disk. They're like, a what now?
00:18:51
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:18:52
Jeff
They've never heard of that.
00:18:54
JT Spangler
No, dude, I...
00:18:54
Jeff
It's weird that it's still there. By the way, to watch locked DivX VOD, video and demand content, you must register your DivX certified device using a registration code. So you have to literally plug your DVD player into the internet.
00:19:09
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:19:09
Jeff
um It certifies the device and then you have to pay for it every time you want to watch it, even though you have the disc right there.
00:19:17
JT Spangler
and I mean, it actually sounds not that much different from when I buy Kindle book from Amazon. Like it downloads onto my device, but i haven't purchased that book. I've only rented it from Amazon and they can take it back off of my Kindle anytime I want to, even though I gave them like 10 bucks for basically what is a text file.
00:19:33
Jeff
Right. Yeah. um Apparently Circuit City was the people that pushed the Divics and that's why that kid's never going to get that to work.
00:19:45
Jeff
i was like, I'm pretty sure Patriot's probably streaming somewhere, fella. Go find it that way.
00:19:50
JT Spangler
Yeah, yeah, it's around. um All right.
00:19:51
Jeff
Yeah.
00:19:52
JT Spangler
How'd you rate this?
00:19:54
Jeff
I gave it a five and a half. um
00:19:56
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:19:57
Jeff
Too many dead babies and heroin and not enough funny. I'm sure it was funny. And ah there were parts where I was like smiling and went like, ha ha. Yeah. not But not laughing. It's not like a movie I would consider a comedy.
00:20:11
JT Spangler
Yeah, I mean, i like I said, well-written, well-acted, well-directed, great soundtrack, kind of revolutionary, an important movie that I hated.
00:20:18
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:22
JT Spangler
It's freaking crass and it's disgusting and it's like trying to look real close at stuff I don't have any interest at looking at, like heroin use and like putting your face in a toilet full your own diarrhea and like dead babies and like soccer.
00:20:30
Jeff
Right. Yeah.
00:20:36
JT Spangler
I don't want to look up close at any, I don't,
00:20:39
Jeff
I like how heroin, dead babies, and Dookie all got lumped in with soccer. Oh yeah. And soccer.
00:20:46
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, I just don't like, I mean, and part of it's that I just don't like that from art. I want to be shiny and happy. Part of it's that one of my oldest friends overdosed from a heroin and I don't really want to like think about what that time was like for him.
00:20:54
Jeff
Right.
00:20:57
JT Spangler
and Part of it's like, I have a kid and i don't want to see freaking a baby crawling around in a flop house that ends up dying.
00:20:57
Jeff
Yeah, that sucks.
00:21:03
JT Spangler
I don't, that's not, hey, guess what?
00:21:03
Jeff
Right.
00:21:05
JT Spangler
Horrible shit happens. That's not what I want for my free time. I have the news for that.
00:21:08
Jeff
Right. Right. um Same.
00:21:12
JT Spangler
So I gave it a six out of 10.
00:21:14
Jeff
Okay. All
00:21:15
JT Spangler
And again, like I recognize like it's very well done and um' it's not for me and it's okay if I'm sure plenty people have this movie and their best movies ever that we're probably not to be great friends.
00:21:25
Jeff
It's okay. Yeah, that's what i was going to say. It's okay if that you like it. um I just don't.
00:21:28
JT Spangler
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
00:21:32
Jeff
Yeah.
00:21:32
JT Spangler
um Yeah, dude. What's the freaking Big Lebowski?
00:21:37
Jeff
Yeah.
00:21:37
JT Spangler
Like, my wife hates that movie. And I like it.
00:21:40
Jeff
Crazy.
00:21:40
JT Spangler
I don't think it's like genius, but it's like
00:21:42
Jeff
Yeah, it's not the best, but it's good.
00:21:44
JT Spangler
but I'm saying like, you know, i'm married her anyway. Like it's all right. It's cool. We just watch other stuff. Like I'm not, it's not that big a deal.
00:21:51
Jeff
Oh, I married her anyway. Even though she likes soccer, we got married.
00:21:56
JT Spangler
Yeah. She doesn't care about soccer, but ah like, i don't know, man, you'd have to be.
00:21:59
Jeff
What about opium suppositories? How she feel about it? And crawling through a toilet and soccer.
Iconic Scenes and Character Analysis
00:22:05
JT Spangler
Yeah. Well, I mean, dude, we have a four year old, so like sticking your hands in diarrhea toilets is nothing new.
00:22:10
Jeff
No, no, I don't want any more.
00:22:11
JT Spangler
Um,
00:22:13
Jeff
Don't make me go back.
00:22:16
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude. I don't, i mean, you know, I'd have to be really, I would have to like you a lot for you to say like, Hey man, come over.
00:22:16
Jeff
Don't make me go back.
00:22:22
JT Spangler
We're going barbecue and we're going watch train spotting. I'll be like, ah, can I just do the first half of that?
00:22:30
Jeff
I want to skip all the parts. You know what? I'll make a plate and then I'll see what's over here by my car.
00:22:34
JT Spangler
Yeah. Just, just, just put mine on a paper plate and put some aluminum foil on top. And then I'll just, I'll just duck out while you guys put on train spotting. Cause I don't want to, I don't want to watch diarrhea and people's faces and dead babies while I'm trying to eat barbecue.
00:22:45
Jeff
it's It's funny you mentioned that because I was watching this at school um and the part where he's going into the diarrhea toilet to get the opium suppositories. was like eating my sandwich and I was like, I think I'll just, I'll just wait till this part's over.
00:23:00
Jeff
Cause normally that doesn't bother me and it really wasn't bothering me, but like, I'm so frigging visceral.
00:23:04
JT Spangler
I don't, dude, the direction, it wasn't like, I mean, like, I'm a guy, i'm i love a I love a fart joke or a poop joke, and like, i we said on this podcast that the frickin' Jeff Daniels diarrhea scene in Dumb and Dumber is maybe one of the funniest diarrhea jokes ever, but this shit...
00:23:14
Jeff
Yeah.
00:23:24
JT Spangler
very literally pun intended was like all up on his fingers and his face. And then he jumped inside the toilet and was swimming in a dream sequence. And then he came up with like, it was horrible.
00:23:35
Jeff
Yeah.
00:23:35
JT Spangler
It was so gross and not funny at all. All
00:23:39
Jeff
i Yeah.
00:23:42
JT Spangler
right, let's do the best.
00:23:42
Jeff
the
00:23:47
JT Spangler
What's your top, what's your first scene? Best three scenes.
00:23:49
Jeff
right. My first favorite scene of the best of the five, five and a half out of 10 is the worst toilet in Scotland. He has his opium suppositories, which he puts in right after he buys them from the guy while he's standing up, still wearing his pants.
00:24:02
JT Spangler
yeah you
00:24:06
Jeff
um I mean, I don't really use suppositories, but i don't think that's right.
00:24:08
JT Spangler
Yeah. was
00:24:11
JT Spangler
Continuing on the list of things that I don't want out of my relationships is I don't want not for my friend for my friend to look me in the eye while they're inserting a suppository inside their super tight jeans.
00:24:20
Jeff
Yeah.
00:24:25
JT Spangler
Just go somewhere else.
00:24:25
Jeff
Oh, man. he was He was like elbow deep into his pants and like three knuckles deep into his butt. Just... I don't...
00:24:32
JT Spangler
and Look, I get train spotter stance.
00:24:32
Jeff
So...
00:24:35
JT Spangler
I understand that the point of it is to show you how fucked up a heroin is and how the type of shit it makes people do.
00:24:38
Jeff
Right.
00:24:40
JT Spangler
I get the point.
00:24:42
Jeff
um
00:24:43
JT Spangler
I hate it. I just don't like it.
00:24:44
Jeff
Yeah.
00:24:45
JT Spangler
I don't, please don't stick anything in your butt while you're making eye contact with me.
00:24:46
Jeff
Opium... just
00:24:49
JT Spangler
That's, and don't pull a knife.
00:24:50
Jeff
Yeah. I don't even want people making eye contact. Yeah, dude. He, he, I guess he really needed the opium to help him with the, ah the withdrawals.
00:25:00
JT Spangler
good Because he's trying to get off a heroin and he's decided that like every heroin addict, like, maybe I'll just do a couple more hits just to ease the way off.
00:25:01
Jeff
um Right.
00:25:06
Jeff
Just, i yeah.
00:25:07
JT Spangler
And then one of his drug friends is like, you can't have heroin, but I got these opium suppositories and he just freaking jams them straight in his B hole. And then, and then he realizes, and then he realizes that heroin makes you constipated.
00:25:15
Jeff
And then has diarrhea. Yeah.
00:25:20
JT Spangler
And now he's been off of heroin long enough that he is the opposite of constipated.
00:25:23
Jeff
Yeah.
00:25:23
JT Spangler
And he goes to use the most disgusting toilet ever in film.
00:25:27
Jeff
ah Yeah. The worst toilet in Scotland. I dude. And there's no toilet seat.
00:25:32
JT Spangler
No.
00:25:32
Jeff
So he's sitting right on the rim. um The water's already too high.
00:25:38
JT Spangler
Dude, even the bathroom was so gross.
00:25:38
Jeff
I just.
00:25:39
JT Spangler
It looked like a freaking, it looked like you would set saw there.
00:25:41
Jeff
Yeah.
00:25:44
Jeff
Yeah. I don't. It was the filthiest toilet imaginable.
00:25:46
JT Spangler
And then he realized that he diarrhea'd out his suppositories that were his, that were his fix. And he just freaking dove into the toilet to go get him. While the diarrhea is still warm. Yeah.
00:25:57
Jeff
He was like, like sifting through it. And then when he dove in first of all, that looks cool, by the way, that's the why I put it down.
00:26:02
JT Spangler
and That did look cool.
00:26:04
Jeff
But then like, he's like swimming and he finds them on the bottom and there's like sea rocks and like seaweed in there.
00:26:04
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:26:12
Jeff
And then he says something he's like, ah all right, a good time finally, or whatever he says. And the bubbles are coming out of his mouth and he swims back to the top and gets out. ah The whole time i was just like, why was that in there again?
00:26:25
Jeff
But I liked it. I thought that of all the really weird things, that's what I put on there.
00:26:31
JT Spangler
That was also my first scene. that And this, like, first of all, two things that I do not typically do during movies, either for the podcast or in my real regular life, is number one, I don't usually watch with the subtitles on, but I realized after the first 15 minutes, I couldn't understand any fucking thing these Scottish people were saying.
00:26:43
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. the
00:26:48
JT Spangler
So I turned the subtitles on. And number two is there was, like, a couple of parts where I was going like this, like, just face over my hands, like, just trying to look through the cracks in my fingers and going, like, oh God, tell me when he's out of the diarrhea.
00:26:53
Jeff
Yeah.
00:27:00
JT Spangler
Except I'm by myself, so no one can tell me. I just have to keep watching.
00:27:02
Jeff
just gotta You just got to guess.
00:27:04
JT Spangler
But do I had to do that like two or three different spots.
00:27:04
Jeff
um Yeah, that it kept happening. um So that's your first one. What's your second one
00:27:12
JT Spangler
My second one is when the five of them, it's I thought it was maybe the reason why they called it train spotting. So was the only part of the movie that had a train in it. they were just They all had like a horrible night and like two of them got dumped and then one of them had sex with 16 year old.
00:27:27
JT Spangler
and just But and then they're like, they're all like walking around miserable.
00:27:29
Jeff
Yeah.
00:27:31
JT Spangler
And they were, and Ewan McGregor has this great monologue about how terrible it is to be Scottish. And that was the only time in the movie where i was like, that was kind of funny.
00:27:36
Jeff
Yeah.
00:27:38
JT Spangler
I like that.
00:27:39
Jeff
yeah Yeah. That that whole, it's shite being Scottish. That whole thing, that was part of my quotes because that that really was good.
00:27:43
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:27:49
Jeff
That was good. God, I can't believe that the girl was underage and he was like, what are you, the flatmates? And I'm like, oh, that's good. I got to write that down. And was like, their parents are pretty relaxed for this guy that just climbed out of a dookie toilet, hooking up with her daughter.
00:27:59
JT Spangler
Yeah. This 26 year old who's, uh, who's in, uh, sleeping in the hallway outside of their high school daughter's bedroom.
00:28:09
Jeff
Yeah. No, no, thanks.
00:28:12
JT Spangler
Dude, all the parents in this movie, you can see why all the kids were on heroin because the parents were like, they're like, oh, it seems like a rough one. Would you like a cigarette? I'll wash your dookie sheets. like the Like the parents were, I'm just trying to imagine if me and all of my close friends were heroin addicts who kept stealing and our parents were like, don't worry about it.
00:28:23
Jeff
so he eats
00:28:30
JT Spangler
Let's get some breakfast. should we get Should we go by the pub? Like, I don't think that's how that would have gone. I think my parents and all my friends' parents would have been lined up to see who got to hit me next. Yeah.
00:28:40
Jeff
Right, exactly. And that's, you know, takes a village and they're all going to do it.
00:28:44
JT Spangler
Yeah, and I know they say you shouldn't hit your kids, but the reality is you shouldn't hit some of your kids.
00:28:45
Jeff
Um,
00:28:50
Jeff
Clean and shine. Clean and shine. Yeah, dude.
00:28:55
JT Spangler
I'm 100% kidding Child Protective Services, by the way.
00:28:55
Jeff
Yet. Yet.
00:28:57
JT Spangler
My kid hits me all the time, and I never retaliate. I just sit here and take it.
00:29:02
Jeff
Yet.
00:29:03
JT Spangler
Well, when he's like 19, we might revisit, but he's four.
00:29:03
Jeff
Yeah. yeah
00:29:06
JT Spangler
So if he hits me, just go like, hey, please don't hit me. That kind of hurts.
00:29:10
Jeff
um Yeah. And they're junk high.
00:29:12
JT Spangler
What's your second scene?
00:29:13
Jeff
So that doesn't help. ah My second one is when Spud goes on to his job interview and he took amphetamines. He took like Adderall or something. So um he wants to keep his benefits, his unemployment benefits,
00:29:29
JT Spangler
I forgot about that. That's a great scene.
00:29:31
Jeff
And he is like rapid fire going after it. ah I was actually laughing at that part. I had a student that gave a report, like ah a presentation and he was like, Mr. Horn, I just want to let you know, I just got on Concerta.
00:29:45
Jeff
That's like ADD men's.
00:29:46
JT Spangler
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:47
Jeff
He's like, I just got on Concerta and I'm just, everything's moving a thousand miles an hour. I'm very sorry if if I go too fast. I'm like, it's okay. And he sounded just like that guy. He was just going like one after another. the hilarious rant that Spud goes on. Super nonsensical. It's all just all over. They were trying to ask him questions and he was just like, of course, not going to get the job, which is what he wanted. So I put that down as my second one.
00:30:15
JT Spangler
Oh God, that was a really good scene too. Yeah. Cause he's, he was like, he just flat out just admitted that he lied on his resume about where he went to school.
00:30:22
Jeff
yeah
00:30:22
JT Spangler
And he's like, well, just to get my foot in the door. And they're like, but didn't have to, you got referred here by the work commission. You didn't need to give your foot in the door. And he's like, he's like, well, that's why you're sitting this chair and I'm sitting that chair. I don't what tell you.
00:30:33
JT Spangler
It's just, that was a, that was a great scene.
00:30:36
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. um What's your next one?
00:30:41
JT Spangler
My third one was when Obi-Wan was living in London and he was a realtor.
00:30:46
Jeff
That was a big jump to go from.
00:30:48
JT Spangler
exactly Yeah.
00:30:50
Jeff
cold turkey and seeing dead babies on the ceiling to now I'm selling houses. And there was no like montage to show how he was cleaned up and he's working on getting his realtor license.
00:31:00
JT Spangler
No,
00:31:02
Jeff
It literally, was just like, let me take off this half shirt and put on a suit and start selling houses.
00:31:04
JT Spangler
it was just a hard, yeah.
00:31:07
JT Spangler
Yeah. Yeah, he took off his Britney Spears 99 tour shirt and he and it was a jump cut straight to his like baggy blazer and he was talking about like, that's all the utilities are included, 320 quid a week.
00:31:20
JT Spangler
And it's like Wolf of Wall Street, like he's like, who's got the keys?
00:31:21
Jeff
Yeah.
00:31:23
JT Spangler
Like he's just in the office with the phone that has all the different phone lines.
00:31:26
Jeff
Yeah. I do.
00:31:28
JT Spangler
And...
00:31:28
Jeff
um I don't know. um I guess that's how it works. Is that how it works? Your wife sells houses.
00:31:36
JT Spangler
i Dude, i don't I don't think it's...
00:31:37
Jeff
Can I, but can I just sell houses tomorrow if I change my shirt?
00:31:40
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, that's why there's so many shitty realtors because you can get your real estate license in like a weekend.
00:31:45
Jeff
Ah, nice.
00:31:47
JT Spangler
Yeah, low barrier to entry.
00:31:47
Jeff
Can I, can
00:31:48
JT Spangler
Like if you want to cut hair, you got to go to 12 weeks of training. But if you want to be a realtor, it's like a long weekend and you're good.
00:31:54
Jeff
Nice. What if I want to cut hair and then on the weekends sell houses while I have my gun that's concealed? How long will that take me?
00:32:03
JT Spangler
Well, the gun you get right away, the real estate thing takes you a weekend, and then and then the hair thing is like, you just have to do that over the summer because you're not gonna have the time. So you can start shooting people like tomorrow, but like the you won't be able to cut hair until you have the summer off to go to hair college.
00:32:16
Jeff
The hair. Better. Yeah. Better. Better take a couple of weeks off. That's that's a good call.
00:32:21
JT Spangler
God bless America, that's what I'm saying. um
00:32:23
Jeff
Yeah.
00:32:24
JT Spangler
I think that people should have to do a lot of training before they cut hair.
00:32:24
Jeff
mika
00:32:29
JT Spangler
It's very dangerous be holding scissors near people.
00:32:31
Jeff
Yeah. um Agreed. So can it really is just a long weekend to sell real estate.
00:32:43
JT Spangler
It's like two weeks. and In Tennessee, it's ah it's like two it's like a two-week training.
00:32:45
Jeff
God.
00:32:49
Jeff
What do they teach you? Just how to like smile and show up? Like don't.
00:32:54
JT Spangler
I think a lot of it's blazer shopping. No, I don't know. Well, do they have to learn about the contract and like how how they do their commissions and what it costs and like the continuing ed.
00:32:58
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, I guess. right Right.
00:33:02
JT Spangler
I mean, there's stuff to learn. I mean, it's, you know, two weeks to get your license and then probably five years to figure out how to do the job well. But, but that's why there's a bunch of realtors and that's why a lot of them aren't very good.
00:33:09
Jeff
Right.
00:33:12
JT Spangler
You can get the job, you can get like certified, you know, licensed very easily.
00:33:16
Jeff
Right. All you need a sign with your picture on it, preferably with a blazer on.
00:33:20
JT Spangler
Well, dude, I'm saying we rebuilt the deck in and your backyard because you don't have to have a permit to build a deck. So any meth head with a shovel can come around and say like, we'll build your deck, $35.
00:33:30
Jeff
Yeah. I can totally attest to that.
00:33:31
JT Spangler
And then your wife will go like, yeah, done. Like you don't have to have a contractor's license to build a deck. That's why there's a bunch of shitty decks.
00:33:37
Jeff
Right. Yeah.
00:33:40
JT Spangler
That's why we rebuil we we rebuilt yours.
00:33:41
Jeff
That deck needs to be redone by the way.
00:33:43
JT Spangler
Yeah, yeah, I'm available, never.
00:33:44
Jeff
Like again, though.
00:33:45
JT Spangler
you have a You have a teenage son, he can handle that.
00:33:48
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have redo it.
00:33:50
JT Spangler
What's your third scene?
00:33:51
Jeff
Um, it was a toss up. I went with the hotel room finale um where he betrays everybody and like wakes up and takes the stuff.
00:34:02
Jeff
And he's talking about how like a sick boy doesn't care.
00:34:02
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:34:05
Jeff
He's, he would have done the same to me if he had thought about it first and a beg me, I'm trying to, I'm definitely going to take his money.
00:34:08
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:34:12
Jeff
That guy's trying to stab me all the time. He's like, but I do feel bad for a poop sheets. um Like i feel bad for him. And he ends up leaving the money in the locker for him.
00:34:20
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:34:22
Jeff
um I don't know that it the morality of that just doing all them dirty is pretty ah perfect dramatically for the end of this movie.
00:34:32
Jeff
I felt like it was him being good, but also crappy and starting a new life with how much was it? 16,000? Not that much.
00:34:41
JT Spangler
Yeah, 16,000 pounds, which who even knows how an much that is in Freedom Dollars.
00:34:47
Jeff
I definitely do not. Um, so yeah, I went with that one where he sneaks out of the hotel.
00:34:57
JT Spangler
That was great because the whole movie, like normally when you watch a movie in your head, you're going like the, the narrative is like, there's protagonists that we're all cheering for. And there's some so sort of antagonist that's opposing whatever their goal is.
00:35:09
JT Spangler
And you're going like, man, I hope this person gets what they want.
00:35:10
Jeff
Right.
00:35:12
JT Spangler
And that was the end of this. That's the end movie. I think it's supposed to make it real sure that like, in case you're not clear, all of these people are horrible. You shouldn't be cheering for any of them.
00:35:20
Jeff
Yeah, everybody everybody's bad, um even the people that are not so bad.
00:35:26
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:35:28
Jeff
um So do you have quotes? I was having trouble with that one. I had to keep pausing it and writing them down and then and typing them out like to make sure I got it right.
00:35:40
JT Spangler
um real quick, 16,000 British pounds from 1996 would be worth about $42,000 today. So, you know, not, not,
00:35:49
Jeff
a Hey, that's worth stabbing your friends in the back sometimes, literally. Yeah,
00:35:55
JT Spangler
yeah. Especially if your friends are already shitty and have already robbing you all the time, uh, which they were the whole movie.
00:36:00
Jeff
yeah the whole time.
00:36:01
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude, I, I had a hard time with quotes. was, I thought of like choose life. His like whole thing is he said it a couple times in the movie.
00:36:07
Jeff
I had that one a couple of times. Yeah, I didn't know if I was going to use it.
00:36:08
JT Spangler
Um, I have negative associations with that phrase for other reasons, but I liked that it was in that in the movie.
00:36:13
Jeff
Yeah.
00:36:15
JT Spangler
and And the other one I thought of was like, you shite being Scottish, just because that one's kind of cracked me up. And I feel sure that if I spent time in Scotland, I probably would hear people saying that, just like joking.
00:36:20
Jeff
That was what I had.
00:36:25
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. Probably not joking though. It's shape being from Louisiana sometimes.
00:36:29
JT Spangler
Yeah, joking, but not joking.
00:36:32
Jeff
um ah Yeah. Dude, I had choose life. I had a shape being Scottish. I also had who needs reasons when you've got heroin. um And I like that. There's just the whole.
00:36:45
JT Spangler
This is the problem with the Scottish accents. is if we Even with the freaking words on the screen, i was like, I think I missed that quote.
00:36:52
Jeff
subtitles
00:36:55
Jeff
yeah um yeah it's in his opening i'm gonna call it an anti-sermon when he's going through his whole thing who needs reasons uh then a reasons who needs reasons when you've got heroin um i it was
00:36:55
JT Spangler
ah
00:37:02
JT Spangler
Right.
00:37:07
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:37:10
JT Spangler
Yeah. I looked up some of the quotes from this movie and I saw people posting like, oh, I really like this quote. He's like but I'm a heroin addict. So that's why I say that all the time. And I was like, see that's why i don't like movies like this because.
00:37:24
Jeff
That's why I can quote Ratatouille all the time and these guys can quote this because I don't do heroin, but I eat a lot of food.
00:37:31
JT Spangler
yeah it's the only thing worse than doing drugs is the people that you have to do drugs with. I've heard.
00:37:40
Jeff
um
00:37:40
JT Spangler
I used to do a lot of drugs, but that was way back there.
00:37:45
Jeff
I used to do drugs. I still do drugs, but I used to also.
00:37:49
JT Spangler
These are quotes from stand-up comedians, not Jeff and I, confessing to illegal drug usage.
00:37:54
Jeff
ah Yeah.
00:37:55
JT Spangler
unless they've Unless they've made canola oil illegal, Jeff and I are still clean.
00:38:00
Jeff
I'm peanut oil. Are you allergic to all the nuts or just these? So yeah, those are my three quotes. Choose life, shaipeen, skaiush, and who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
00:38:10
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:38:13
JT Spangler
Characters. My first one is Ewan McGregor because he's awesome.
00:38:15
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah, he's great.
00:38:18
JT Spangler
He's a great person to pick to carry this movie because he's looked exactly like a heroin addict.
00:38:18
Jeff
Um...
00:38:22
JT Spangler
I imagine would look, but also is clearly a charismatic actor who's really fun to watch.
00:38:26
Jeff
Yeah. He's super good. Right.
00:38:29
JT Spangler
And he hadn't really done much before this, but I guess not surprising looking back that he ended up doing all kinds of shit.
00:38:29
Jeff
Um,
00:38:37
Jeff
this, yeah, this really brought him to the forefront and let every, let everybody see him. Um,
00:38:43
JT Spangler
I'm kind of surprised that he got cast, I guess because it wasn't Disney at that point. Because he's he does this in 96 and then he's Obi-Wan in 99. And I think if Disney owned Star Wars at that point in time, they wouldn't have cast him off of this movie.
00:38:55
Jeff
Um, yeah, maybe, i don't know.
00:38:56
JT Spangler
Because they're so so dumb about stuff like that.
00:38:59
Jeff
Um, he, dude, he did a great job in this. I don't, maybe they could see that he's a good actor and they, that's why they could have used him as Obi-Wan.
00:39:03
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:39:07
Jeff
I don't know. Hopefully they don't make stupid ideas like that.
00:39:09
JT Spangler
What?
00:39:12
Jeff
Make choices like that.
00:39:12
JT Spangler
He's a freaking great actor, but I'm just like, but that was Lucasfilm, you know, and not Disney.
00:39:14
Jeff
Yeah, he really is.
00:39:18
Jeff
Right.
00:39:19
JT Spangler
um
00:39:20
Jeff
um So that's who I had first. My second one was Begbie, Robert Carlisle. um He's terrifying. That freaking, just a hair-triggered psychopath, just addicted to violence that just, it's super intense.
00:39:27
JT Spangler
He, dude.
00:39:35
JT Spangler
And he he he told the director, Danny Boyle, that he wasn't sure if he could play Begbie because he's like, he's like, I'm too small.
00:39:36
Jeff
Like Yeah.
00:39:45
JT Spangler
And the director's like, no, no, he's like, small psychopaths are even scarier, which is 100% accurate.
00:39:49
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah, everybody's scared of Joe Pesci.
00:39:53
JT Spangler
I was just, dude, I was just thinking about Joe Pesci from Heat, and like just being this littlest guy, just like smashing people's faces off of tables all the time.
00:39:56
Jeff
Yeah.
00:40:00
JT Spangler
Like, i don't want to hang out with people like that.
00:40:00
Jeff
And dude, and and the character Begbie doesn't do heroin. He's just like, he's the scariest one in their whole friend group to me.
00:40:09
JT Spangler
Yeah, but he's also just out at the pub just throwing his glass at people and then getting mad at them when his glass broke on their face.
00:40:09
Jeff
He is.
00:40:12
Jeff
Just throwing it off a balcony. Yeah. What the hell?
00:40:15
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:40:17
Jeff
Idiot. Um...
00:40:18
JT Spangler
and i didn't have him because I hated that character, even though he did a great job portraying it.
00:40:21
Jeff
I thought, yeah, I thought he was a fun character and ridiculously weird.
00:40:22
JT Spangler
and
00:40:25
Jeff
And I liked it.
00:40:25
JT Spangler
My second one was Kelly MacDonald, who plays Ewan McGregor's underage girlfriend.
00:40:30
Jeff
ah yeah. Yeah.
00:40:30
JT Spangler
Yeah. not turns out not to be underage that in real life. She's 19 or 20 when this movie is shot, but she says she's playing 15, but she's 20.
00:40:37
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:39
JT Spangler
twenty But anyway, he meets her at a club and he's just come off a heroin and it's like libido comes back and he's trying to pick her up. And then she fricking says some crazy shit and just kind of terrifies him. And she's like, get in the cab and they go back and everyone has bathing suit area touching. They're showing all the stuff, fricking, fricking P and VG all over the screen.
00:40:58
JT Spangler
Cause everybody that night is getting laid and they're showing it.
00:41:01
Jeff
Yeah.
00:41:01
JT Spangler
Which I could see when I was 16 would have been a big selling point for this movie. But now i was like, can we just fast forward to when everyone's got their clothes on again?
00:41:08
Jeff
Yeah. I don't need to see that.
00:41:09
JT Spangler
ah
00:41:09
Jeff
i don't even ah do it in the dark on purpose.
00:41:14
JT Spangler
she But she's awesome. She does a really good job. I liked her.
00:41:17
Jeff
Yeah, she does. This was her first, first movie to first film role.
00:41:20
JT Spangler
First movie.
00:41:22
Jeff
um I liked her too.
00:41:25
JT Spangler
And she's done a... I didn't recognize her, but she's done a bunch of stuff. I guess she was in Harry Potter and I somehow missed it. And...
00:41:30
Jeff
I didn't see Harry Potter.
00:41:31
JT Spangler
But I'm looking at her like credits, like no country for old men. I saw that. I guess I forgot what her part was in that, but she, dude, she's got like a BAFTA award and four SAG awards and she's been doing it stuff.
00:41:40
Jeff
I remembered her from, what's the one with Steve Buscemi where it's set in like, hold on, I'll think of it. Empire, ah board Boardwalk Empire. I think she's in that.
00:41:53
Jeff
I'm trying to pull her name up.
00:41:54
JT Spangler
Like all her stuff at Gosford park and like finding Neverland and
00:41:59
Jeff
Boardwalk Empire. Yeah, that's it.
00:42:01
JT Spangler
Yeah. Oh, she's the voice for Brave.
00:42:05
Jeff
Oh, nice. My kids love that movie.
00:42:10
JT Spangler
course they do
00:42:12
Jeff
A lot of, lot less dead babies in that one, um which is all right.
00:42:13
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:42:16
JT Spangler
Way less.
00:42:18
Jeff
ah Yeah, I had her as like an honorable mention. I threw some, threw some stuff that I read about her. But the third person I had was Spud, Ian Bremner.
00:42:29
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:42:29
Jeff
Bremner? Bremner. Um, that guy poops the bed and ah dude, I just, something about him I liked.
00:42:40
Jeff
And, uh, I liked the way he just kind of a goofball all around. I liked it.
00:42:46
JT Spangler
he was like a He was the perfect like sad sack character. I like two things. Number one, he's a second actor named Ewan out of freaking five because they just cast all Scottish people, I guess.
00:42:54
Jeff
Yeah.
00:42:57
Jeff
Right.
00:42:57
JT Spangler
And also he played the main role, ah Mark Renton, in the stage adaptation of this.
00:43:03
Jeff
Yeah.
00:43:04
JT Spangler
So like he was he was playing the lead in this and they went to do a movie and they're like, obviously you've seen you, so you're not going to be the lead, but make maybe you want to do this other part.
00:43:11
Jeff
Right.
00:43:12
JT Spangler
And he's like yeah, sounds great.
00:43:13
Jeff
Right. That's awesome. um I like how his name is E-W-E-N and Obi-Wan's is E-W-A-N.
00:43:19
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:43:22
Jeff
We're going spell it different, baby.
00:43:22
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:43:24
Jeff
They never going to get it right.
00:43:25
JT Spangler
I'll never get it. Yeah, dude. And he's been in other stuff. Like I was looking, was like, he was in freaking Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down, freaking Snatch, all kind of stuff.
00:43:37
Jeff
i like I could see him being in Snatch. I need a caravan for my mom. A what now? Perilical blue caravan for my mom.
00:43:46
JT Spangler
God, dude, I'm trying to think of what we were I heard somebody talking on a podcast. it was one of those like, ah I call it like famous people talking to famous people podcast, but for whatever reason, they were talking about Vince Vaughn and then the movie Made came up and one of the people in it had not seen it and the other person was describing it and i was like, I was like taking a walk.
00:43:57
Jeff
Yeah.
00:44:01
Jeff
Wow.
00:44:03
JT Spangler
i was like shouting at my headphones. It's like, have you not seen Made? Because you stole my carpet cleaning van and I don't like you. No, no, I know this is my pretty, but who do i who do i give this to?
00:44:12
Jeff
Who do I? who This is my, I give, and he's just winking at him the whole time. I'm a tall drink of water. I gotta stretch my shit out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:44:21
JT Spangler
God.
00:44:21
Jeff
Ah, gotta let fucking screech in the club and you're gonna stop me from coming?
00:44:24
JT Spangler
You let like fucking Screech in the club? I don't have a third character. I hated everybody. They all did a really good job, and but they're all horrible, horrible people.
00:44:24
Jeff
Freaking.
Critical Analysis of Disturbing Elements
00:44:33
JT Spangler
And at no point were you anywhere near a coherent thought or all dumber for having heard you.
00:44:34
Jeff
Ah, Cardiff Giants.
00:44:39
JT Spangler
And you got to have mercy on your soul.
00:44:39
Jeff
Yeah, the only other person you could have picked, I think, is Sick Boy, that guy. The guy who liked to always put the suit on, but he was...
00:44:46
JT Spangler
Well, dude, all the... All five of them did a good job. Tommy did a good job. He was freaking had AIDS and then died of toxic plasmosis because his cat bit him or something.
00:44:50
Jeff
Yeah.
00:44:53
Jeff
Yeah.
00:44:54
JT Spangler
That's fucking horrible.
00:44:55
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah, that's all horrible.
00:44:56
JT Spangler
He did a really good job. Bale did a good job. I just hated it. And I didn't write any other names down.
00:44:59
Jeff
Right.
00:45:00
JT Spangler
And now I'm moving on.
00:45:01
Jeff
the All right, so let's talk about the director, Danny Boyle. This is his first really big one.
00:45:07
JT Spangler
Denny Boyle. Yeah.
00:45:09
Jeff
A train spotting.
00:45:09
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:45:10
Jeff
Then he does the beach 28 days later, slum dog, um Steve jobs.
00:45:13
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:45:17
Jeff
He does yesterday. That's easily my favorite Danny Boyle movie. If you've not watched that, you get off of it. It's fantastic.
00:45:25
JT Spangler
I've not watched that.
00:45:26
Jeff
Do you know which one it is?
00:45:26
JT Spangler
I know what you're talking about.
00:45:27
Jeff
It's, it's,
00:45:27
JT Spangler
It's the movie where the like guy, the like Indian guy goes into an alternate timeline where there's no Beatles and he starts writing Beatles songs.
00:45:32
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. And he plays them all and makes it big.
00:45:37
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:45:38
Jeff
And he forgets that the other things that have changed is like, there's no Coca-Cola. So he keeps asking people for Coke and they're just like, yeah, I can get you that. No problem. It's like, no, wait, I mean, Pepsi, just give me a Pepsi.
00:45:50
Jeff
um
00:45:51
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:45:51
Jeff
ah I like, I like his stuff.
00:45:52
JT Spangler
Danny Boyle is the, He's good, man. He's super weird. move I'm trying to think of a way to say this. It doesn't sound insulting. I don't know if there is a way. It wasn't surprising to me to learn that he's a very serious Catholic.
00:46:03
Jeff
Yeah. No, you can see it.
00:46:04
JT Spangler
Because we grew up we grew up in Roman Catholic country, and I know that there's a bunch of weirdos that are like, hell yeah, Catholic church, high five, right? And it's like, I don't know about that.
00:46:12
Jeff
Right.
00:46:13
JT Spangler
But also, like, from frickin' Scotland, everybody's Catholic.
00:46:14
Jeff
They... they do
00:46:18
Jeff
Right.
00:46:18
JT Spangler
Well, he's British, but...
00:46:19
Jeff
But you can tell you can tell when in his in his stuff. Some of these movies are...
00:46:23
JT Spangler
Yeah, you can.
00:46:27
Jeff
Like, the beach is not... um It's weird. I mean, don't know what you call it, like an adventure...
00:46:31
JT Spangler
Well, dude, 127 hours where the guy freaking gets trapped in the canyon and he has to saw his own arm off.
00:46:37
Jeff
yeah
00:46:37
JT Spangler
I read that book. There's no way I'm seeing that movie, especially knowing that the train spotting guy did it. I can only imagine that it's horrifying and he probably gets diarrhea on himself at some point.
00:46:41
Jeff
yeah it has to crawl through it um yeah that's uh that's bananas um then there's the guy who uh actually wrote the the book oh sorry
00:46:46
JT Spangler
Um...
00:46:56
JT Spangler
Wait, hold on. Like about Danny Boyle, uh, he's, he's such an oddball that he turned down, uh, knighthood. He was like, he's like, he's like, ah, he's like, I don't, he's like, that sort of thing makes me want to vomit.
00:47:07
JT Spangler
He's such a weirdo that he, that's, and I actually kind of love that.
00:47:10
Jeff
That's a way to That's a way to go.
00:47:12
JT Spangler
But, uh,
00:47:14
Jeff
um i don't know that I would turn down knighthood. i think, sir, Jeff Horn sounds kind of cool. I think I would.
00:47:23
JT Spangler
I would take it. I like swords. um I don't like when people call me sir. I don't even like when they call me mister. But ah I mean, I think if the queen or king whoever the fuck's in charge over there now wants to knight me, I probably would take it.
00:47:35
Jeff
Couldn't you just call yourself sir and just go with it?
00:47:37
JT Spangler
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
00:47:41
Jeff
Yeah.
00:47:42
JT Spangler
There's people in Congress who are claiming they're in special forces. You just say whatever you want.
00:47:45
Jeff
Yeah. It's all made up in the points. Don't matter. the
00:47:51
JT Spangler
Dude, they still tour that. Ryan, what's his name? And Colin, what's his name?
00:47:56
Jeff
Colin mockery and Ryan styles.
00:47:57
JT Spangler
Colin Macrae and Ryan Stiles. Yeah.
00:47:58
Jeff
Yeah.
00:48:00
JT Spangler
John Hodge, the screenwriter, he's he actually is Scottish.
00:48:00
Jeff
That's awesome.
00:48:03
JT Spangler
he He read the book, the Trainspotting book, and and was like, hey, we should adapt this. And so he and the director, I guess, knew each other, went to the author dude, we think this could be an awesome movie. We want to adapt it. Please let us, you know, option it.
00:48:18
JT Spangler
And this is his first screenplay.
00:48:18
Jeff
Yeah.
00:48:21
JT Spangler
But then he goes on to do stuff like The Beach and that's pretty much it.
00:48:23
Jeff
Yeah.
00:48:25
JT Spangler
No, he did do he did do a T2, T2 Trainspotting.
00:48:28
Jeff
He does other stuff.
00:48:31
Jeff
T2's transbiting, not T2. um
00:48:33
JT Spangler
Not T2, James Cameron.
00:48:34
Jeff
Yeah.
00:48:35
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:48:36
Jeff
I didn't...
00:48:36
JT Spangler
I mean, a bunch of weird, presumably weird stuff. A Life Less Ordinary.
00:48:41
Jeff
See, I kind of like that one. That one, we don't need to do it next year, but I'm saying like, I like that one.
00:48:44
JT Spangler
We can...
00:48:49
Jeff
I remember buying that the same time i bought this one.
00:48:49
JT Spangler
but but dude he But he wins the BAFTA for this adapted screenplay. He's nominated for the Academy Award for this adapted screenplay. That's a pretty strong start to your career.
00:48:59
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. That's why they keep giving him chances. um Dude, maybe ah people like this kind of stuff. Dude, again, I like the beach.
00:49:10
Jeff
The same two guys. I liked it. And I like Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:49:13
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:49:16
Jeff
So maybe that's why I liked it. But like, I thought it was good.
00:49:19
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:49:19
Jeff
Weird.
00:49:20
JT Spangler
Me too.
00:49:21
Jeff
It was good.
00:49:21
JT Spangler
I don't, um you like weird movies more than I do. But there are, there are weird movies that I like.
00:49:25
Jeff
Yeah.
00:49:27
JT Spangler
and This is just, this one was like, this was too intense, too intense and too much about stuff that is like, I'm not into it.
00:49:27
Jeff
Yeah. too Too far. Yeah, too far. Right.
00:49:34
Jeff
Right.
00:49:34
JT Spangler
As the kids might say, that's very triggering. ah But as, as an old man like me would say like, I didn't like that. I want to watch something else.
00:49:41
Jeff
But it's the same thing like when I try to argue with my students who's the best rapper and they're like, oh, it's Youngboy. He's awesome. Or it's like, it's the Migos.
00:49:48
JT Spangler
Yeah,
00:49:50
Jeff
You're stupid. ah like I like when the songs are about, like I don't know, bitches and cars. I don't like it when I have to... like if I'm singing along and I'm talking about stirring a crock pot full of crap with, with my Uzi, but of my gun, like I don't, I can't relate to it and I can't relate to anything in this movie.
00:50:10
Jeff
um
00:50:11
JT Spangler
I think that's a pretty good comp because like there's...
00:50:11
Jeff
Not that.
00:50:14
JT Spangler
I get that there are amazing like conscious rappers out there like Talib Kweli and like, I just don't, but I don't care about that. Like I don't, I just want my rap to be about like, just like bling and about cars.
00:50:25
JT Spangler
I like Eminem when he insults people. Like I don't, but I'm, but I'm very happy with like a, with like a, club I don't like rap that doesn't rhyme.
00:50:27
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:32
JT Spangler
I don't like rap that's just auto tuned over a fricking EDM beat like the kids like, ah but yeah, but the conscious rap, I'm like, this feels like you gave me a homework assignment.
00:50:32
Jeff
yeah
00:50:36
Jeff
808s and yeah yeah
00:50:41
JT Spangler
I was just trying to like, with the windows down, jam a little bit.
00:50:44
Jeff
right um yeah but that's how I feel about this movie I I don't get i don't I don't get the I don't do heroin so it's hard for me to be like yeah let's watch that again um oh look see how he like draws it up and pulls his belt with his teeth I remember when I used to that's not a thing so like
00:50:47
JT Spangler
sorry I ruined your Black Panther party.
00:51:05
JT Spangler
Well, I was thinking about it. like they They show some pretty graphic depictions of heroin use in the movie Ray, which absolutely love because it's not central to the movie.
00:51:11
Jeff
Yeah. Right.
00:51:13
JT Spangler
It's just part of the movie.
00:51:14
Jeff
Right.
00:51:14
JT Spangler
And the other parts of the movie is Jamie Foxx doing Ray Charles in front of big groups of people and is in recording studios.
00:51:15
Jeff
Yeah.
00:51:20
JT Spangler
and like I like all that.
00:51:22
Jeff
There was a part of this movie...
00:51:22
JT Spangler
like cooking chicken in the dark.
00:51:24
Jeff
Though, like where he was like, you know, you draw back some of the blood and then push it in.
00:51:29
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:51:30
Jeff
It was from inside the, the like in front of the plunger looks like where the camera was.
00:51:31
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:51:36
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:51:37
Jeff
I don't know how they got that shot. I was trying to figure it out.
00:51:39
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude. the
00:51:40
Jeff
Like I couldn't find anybody that showed it.
00:51:40
JT Spangler
oh The direction and the cinematography, and it's all and it's unbelievably well done.
00:51:42
Jeff
It was good.
00:51:46
JT Spangler
i just hate it.
00:51:47
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:48
JT Spangler
But I like movies about drug kingpin.
00:51:48
Jeff
It's not fair.
00:51:50
JT Spangler
Sicario is awesome. and like
00:51:52
Jeff
Yeah.
00:51:53
JT Spangler
ah there's but They made a million of those movies. I like those.
00:51:55
Jeff
There's have guns maybe is that why we like them. I don't know.
00:51:58
JT Spangler
and Yeah, I guess they're more action movies. um
00:52:00
Jeff
I don't know.
00:52:01
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:52:01
Jeff
It's got Benicio del Toro. That's why I like it.
00:52:04
JT Spangler
I do like that. Benicio del Toro apparently rewrote a bunch of that script because the guy that cause the guy that's doing the Yellowstone and all that shit, the he he wrote that script and everyone's going like, how did this guy write this incredible movie and is now making this kind of like low rent, least common denominator, like a white man propaganda?
00:52:09
Jeff
Heck yeah.
00:52:13
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:22
Jeff
Right.
00:52:23
JT Spangler
I'm like, well, the answer is that people rewrote Sicario's script like Benicio del Toro.
00:52:24
Jeff
Yeah.
00:52:27
Jeff
yeah i could see that i could see that i like i like benicio um uh i'm gonna go with baby dawn uh when she when the baby kind of neglect because everybody was a heroin addict that was
00:52:32
JT Spangler
Yeah, he's good. Worst, dude, all of it.
00:52:40
JT Spangler
The baby dying, which I'm assuming was...
00:52:46
JT Spangler
Well, I couldn't figure out if it died of neglect or if it died of a heroin overdose or if it died of s SIDS, but the baby died.
00:52:51
Jeff
i think i from neglect the way i was looking my
00:52:53
JT Spangler
Yeah. And that was very upsetting to everyone, including me. I didn't like that.
00:52:59
Jeff
I didn't like spuds accident where he pooped the bed. um And then they fought over the sheets and then flung the diarrhea on people.
00:53:09
JT Spangler
Dude flung the diarrhea all over everyone. I knew it was coming.
00:53:13
Jeff
I didn't like ah didn't like that.
00:53:13
JT Spangler
We all knew it was coming.
00:53:15
Jeff
That was worst.
00:53:15
JT Spangler
And I,
00:53:16
Jeff
That was worst. ah
00:53:18
JT Spangler
before that though, it awesome because the, like they're in their mid twenties and he, like the girl lives at home and her parents are like, like, god come on and have breakfast. And of course they're Scottish. So breakfast is like fricking baked beans.
00:53:29
JT Spangler
And, uh,
00:53:29
Jeff
And hot dogs. Yeah.
00:53:31
JT Spangler
And I liked to how her dad is, he's like, oh, sorry, I don't really remember much of last night. And her dad's like, yeah, good. It's good for you to go and tie one off every once in a while. was like, dude, where no one i hung out with. His parents were that cool when I was that age.
00:53:42
JT Spangler
No one was excited that I went and blacked out and then came home and slept in their daughter's bed.
00:53:45
Jeff
Yeah.
00:53:48
JT Spangler
Even before they knew about the diarrhea.
00:53:48
Jeff
Oh, man. That's, yeah, that's um why they're all on heroin, like you said. Who's the worst character
Old Technology and Plot Devices
00:53:55
Jeff
to spend time with since they all suck?
00:53:57
JT Spangler
Begbie, for sure.
00:53:58
Jeff
Oh yeah. Maybe.
00:53:59
JT Spangler
Every time freaking look at him, what wrong is it to pull a knife on you?
00:53:59
Jeff
Yeah.
00:54:02
Jeff
yeah Um, did you have worse effects? I put the baby when he was hallucinating, how it was like crawling on the ceiling. Like it was part of,
00:54:11
JT Spangler
Yeah. He was going through heroin withdrawals in his like childhood bedroom. His parents just locked him in there and the baby was crawling on the ceiling and his head was like doing the like psycho spin around.
00:54:20
Jeff
what's what's the What's the TV show with freaking Laser and Spike and you'd have to like connect yourself to the thing and run on all fours upside down?
00:54:20
JT Spangler
That was...
00:54:31
Jeff
And they wore American flag leotards and like shot each other with tennis balls.
00:54:35
JT Spangler
and American Gladiators.
00:54:37
Jeff
Gladiators! That's it.
00:54:38
JT Spangler
It's coming back.
00:54:38
Jeff
American gladiators. Yeah, American gladiators. That's what that looked like when the baby was crawling upside down. I thought that looked pretty bad.
00:54:43
JT Spangler
um They're they're root rebooting that on Amazon Prime. It's coming out next month. You should have your kid watch that just to see, just to show him like, because dude, they'll do like the joust where they have like the freaking staff with the padding on it.
00:54:55
Jeff
Yeah.
00:54:57
JT Spangler
They hit each other into the foam pit and they do the, the one that I always wanted to do is the one where they, they do the obstacle course while guys fire like tennis balls out of you.
00:54:59
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. it's like the big Q tips.
00:55:05
Jeff
That's not the one I want to do.
00:55:05
JT Spangler
ah Oh yeah.
00:55:06
Jeff
I want to do the one where they have to take the balls from the, from the end zones and drop them in the trash cans before the other guy just checks them into the wall.
00:55:09
JT Spangler
Yes. Yes.
00:55:13
Jeff
Um,
00:55:13
JT Spangler
All I'm going to put in a calendar alert for when that show drops. I hope it's i hope it's awesome.
00:55:16
Jeff
By the way, all the old ones are on YouTube and I have a playlist of all of them. And when the kids sometimes are like, Mr. Harn, we're already done. Can we just put a movie on or something? We got like 40 minutes left.
00:55:27
Jeff
I'll just put on stuff like that. i just let a shuffle in there. Like what was going on in the nineties?
00:55:29
JT Spangler
Nice.
00:55:32
JT Spangler
Yeah, excellent question.
00:55:33
Jeff
It's like big hair fools.
00:55:34
JT Spangler
don't Don't show this to them.
00:55:36
Jeff
Yeah.
00:55:36
JT Spangler
um
00:55:36
Jeff
Don't worry. ah Old tech.
00:55:39
JT Spangler
Old tech? i don't think there's really any tech in this movie.
00:55:41
Jeff
what ah What about the VHS of old football highlights that he borrows from his friend?
00:55:47
JT Spangler
That's a great one.
00:55:48
Jeff
There's VHS.
00:55:49
JT Spangler
Yeah. VHS.
00:55:51
Jeff
There's landlines. They were talking about landline.
00:55:53
JT Spangler
Dude, can you, hold on. Can, a major plot point in this movie is that Ewan McGregor steals a sex tape from his friend and then like slips it in the cover for like 100 greatest football goals.
00:56:00
Jeff
Yeah.
00:56:04
JT Spangler
And then his friend's girlfriend wants to watch the tape and can't find it and ends up like flipping out and breaking up with him.
00:56:04
Jeff
Yeah.
00:56:09
JT Spangler
And then he goes on a rant about how terrible it is to be Scottish.
00:56:09
Jeff
Yeah.
00:56:12
Jeff
what are you gonna go back and watch it i was just there
00:56:14
JT Spangler
Can you imagine that, first of all, not that it needs to be said, but like, I'm not making a sex tape, not my jam. But if I have to set up freaking, have to set up a freaking, I got to set up a camera like I'm filming a news report, a freaking huge S camcorder on a tripod, and then record it onto a VHS tape.
00:56:34
JT Spangler
I can't edit that.
00:56:34
Jeff
put it on a vhs tape
00:56:36
JT Spangler
I can't do any color correction. I can't freaking reframe it.
00:56:41
Jeff
ah We were both there. You were there. was there. was the big sweaty guy. Remember? ah Yeah.
00:56:48
JT Spangler
like Like Jim Caffigan, every time I'm having sex, I think, oh I don't know why I don't do this more often.
00:56:48
Jeff
Pass.
00:56:53
JT Spangler
I'm going to do this again as soon as we're done. and as soon as I finish, well, right away.
00:56:55
Jeff
well Well, not Night out.
00:56:58
JT Spangler
not a machine.
00:57:03
Jeff
Oh, man. Yeah.
00:57:06
JT Spangler
Yeah, VHS, for sure.
00:57:07
Jeff
yeah f VHS. Yeah.
00:57:08
JT Spangler
ah This movie could be set anywhere at any time, honestly, because there's not really any technological stuff happening.
00:57:08
Jeff
um
00:57:14
Jeff
Anytime before cell phones, yeah.
00:57:16
JT Spangler
Yeah, and honestly, the opium crisis and the freaking housing crisis and the job crisis all feels pretty relevant in 2026 compared to 96.
00:57:21
Jeff
And the HIV, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
00:57:26
JT Spangler
Political incorrectness? I didn't really see any.
00:57:28
Jeff
I mean, they glamorize the drug use a little bit. I mean, kind of, but I don't know.
00:57:31
JT Spangler
Sure? Yeah.
00:57:37
JT Spangler
Yeah, man.
Suitability and Potential Remakes
00:57:38
JT Spangler
Let's do five questions.
00:57:38
Jeff
It's just...
00:57:39
JT Spangler
Is it okay for kids? Yeah, kids that are 25 and older. Anyone over the age of 25 is welcome to see it, whether they're a kid or not.
00:57:46
Jeff
Uh, yeah, I put, um, i put 18. Um, the only thing that you have to watch out for is the graphic drug use, the severe language, the violence, the nudity, and the sexual content.
00:57:56
Jeff
Other than that, you, and the the dead babies, other than that, if you take it out, it's really just a family movie about people.
00:57:57
JT Spangler
Yeah, and the dead babies.
00:58:04
JT Spangler
Just good, clean fun. That's all it is, except for the good and the clean and the fun.
00:58:06
Jeff
It's like there's two people giving each other the COVID shot under the overpass on my way home the other day.
00:58:13
JT Spangler
Oh, Need so that be all homeless and stinky? ah
00:58:19
Jeff
ah
00:58:19
JT Spangler
with this Would this movie get made if it were pitched now?
00:58:20
Jeff
yeah It tastes exactly like in the smells.
00:58:21
JT Spangler
Dude.
00:58:22
Jeff
Delicious.
00:58:23
JT Spangler
yeah ah
00:58:24
Jeff
um Dude, I think it could get made again. i think it would have to be like a...
00:58:28
JT Spangler
Hold on a second. They're in the process of producing a musical based on this movie right now in 2026. And they just made a sequel nine years ago. So the answer is yes, it could get made.
00:58:38
Jeff
Yeah, but I'm saying it's got to be a twenty four It's got to be like some really indie that could... Because nobody's going to spend the amount of money you would need to make this movie now because you're not going to make it back.
00:58:50
JT Spangler
Yeah.
00:58:53
Jeff
So you got to have somebody that's willing to just go like, hey, I really want it to be an art thing, which is horrible.
00:59:01
JT Spangler
I
00:59:03
Jeff
Yeah.
00:59:05
JT Spangler
and don't think movies like this will get remade for exactly a reason you're saying. Like they're only, they're they're interesting because you've never seen anything like it.
00:59:08
Jeff
Yeah.
00:59:11
JT Spangler
It's not the sort of thing you reboot. It's not like, you're we're gonna put out Top Gun again.
00:59:13
Jeff
Right.
00:59:15
JT Spangler
It's gonna be fricking awesome. and It's like, dude, no one's watching that.
00:59:18
Jeff
Yeah.
00:59:18
JT Spangler
Like unless you shoot it in a warehouse with college kids, but then it's not art anymore.
00:59:21
Jeff
Yeah.
00:59:22
JT Spangler
Then you're just copying art.
00:59:23
Jeff
Right.
00:59:24
JT Spangler
That comment is about AI. Movie or TV show? It's definitely TV show. No. This would be a horrible TV show.
00:59:29
Jeff
No. Yeah, but like didn't the book have like a bunch of different... ah
00:59:35
JT Spangler
It had a bunch more stuff. I think you could go into the Trainspotting universe and to have a prestige TV show that's just like a really long, depressing story about heroin addicts.
00:59:40
Jeff
One, two, three, four, five, six.
00:59:47
JT Spangler
Pass. Pass.
00:59:48
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah, pass.
00:59:51
JT Spangler
Did you recasting?
00:59:51
Jeff
um No, I don't know any Scottish people.
00:59:56
JT Spangler
No.
00:59:57
Jeff
This doesn't work if they're not Scottish, right?
01:00:01
JT Spangler
Well, I think political incorrectness would be casting a not Scottish person for this movie. And they were all either Scottish or British.
01:00:12
Jeff
I don't know. I guess I don't know any British people anymore either. Is George Michael still alive? No, I don't, dude, I don't, I got, I got nothing. I got, um, you pick an Irish or a British star that's up and coming and lose a bunch of weight and then say, right, you're.
01:00:30
JT Spangler
if If Tom Holland wants to win an Oscar, he, but again, you can't remake this. You have to do it. you have to do an original concept.
01:00:37
Jeff
Yeah.
01:00:37
JT Spangler
So can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2026?
01:00:38
Jeff
A whole new one. Uh,
01:00:41
JT Spangler
You can kind of watch it.
01:00:42
Jeff
You could totally watch it.
01:00:43
JT Spangler
People enjoyed it. a lot of people, I mean, dude, it's got great ratings. It's got like 90% on Rotten Tomatoes. Just Jeff and I didn't, but other people did.
01:00:51
Jeff
Yeah. Yeah. People like it.
01:00:53
JT Spangler
The funny thing is I was reading it is that I think this was Miramax and it ended up being bought by Fox who ended up being bought by Disney. And so like this movie got pulled out of the licensing deal and is now with Paramount. But like, I was just thinking it would have been amazing if this movie had been on Disney plus.
01:01:13
JT Spangler
It's like, Oh, should we watch a Mickey Mouse Clubhouse or should we watch train spotting?
01:01:13
Jeff
There is some weird stuff on Disney Plus. Remember when Bluey had that one episode where they talked about heroin use? It's really bad.
01:01:24
JT Spangler
Bluey had an episode where the dad got pregnant and they don't show that on American TV. You have to like be in Australia to watch that.
01:01:31
Jeff
Nice.
Streaming Availability and Next Movie Discussion
01:01:32
JT Spangler
um Yeah. So this one is available for streaming, but you have to rent it on YouTube or Amazon Prime.
01:01:36
Jeff
you So I watched it on Pluto TV. There was ads, but there was four ads total in the whole, however long it was, 90 something minutes.
01:01:40
JT Spangler
Yeah.
01:01:43
JT Spangler
That's not bad.
01:01:45
Jeff
um
01:01:46
JT Spangler
Yeah.
01:01:46
Jeff
That's not bad. It was worth it to watch it at school so I didn't have to wait till I got home and tell the kids to get out of the room.
01:01:52
JT Spangler
Yeah, dude. I agree.
01:01:54
Jeff
um So what else? What's next?
01:01:58
JT Spangler
ah next up just in time for the masters the one everyone's been waiting for 10 cup I don't care at all about the masters but I absolutely freaking love 10 cup and I think we can all agree we need a palate cleanser after train spotting so yeah feel like it's zero how many babies are going to die in the rest of the year and of this of movies like we've got we've got like 18 more episodes
01:02:01
Jeff
Oh, yeah. Tin cup. I got the shanks.
01:02:13
Jeff
how many How many babies die in tin cup?
01:02:18
Jeff
Yeah, it's probably zero.
01:02:23
Jeff
If babies are going to die, do i have do I have to see them? Can I just like die off screen?
01:02:27
JT Spangler
Yeah, can it die and they die off screen like in a plane crash? um
01:02:30
Jeff
Yeah.
01:02:33
JT Spangler
Yeah.
01:02:33
Jeff
Woof.
01:02:34
JT Spangler
I mean, i don't think any babies die in multiplicity.
01:02:34
Jeff
All right.
01:02:36
JT Spangler
think we're okay.
01:02:39
Jeff
That's my peppy, Steve. um I can't wait to do that one. What else? That's it?
01:02:46
JT Spangler
That's it, man. Yeah. Thank you guys for listening. If anyone is still listening, bye, Candias.
01:02:50
Jeff
Yeah. Bye, Candias.
01:02:54
Jeff
If.