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Breaking BarrierZ ft. Isaiah Lee, Rapper & Inspirational Speaker
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Welcome to another episode!! Today I'm joined by Isaiah Lee- a talented musician, artist and teacher based out of Delaware. Tune in as we dive into mental health, vulnerability, navigating relationships and emotional well-being in this episode!
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Introduction to Guest Isaiah Lee
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Hello, welcome or welcome back to the Feel Your Feelings podcast.
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I'm your host, Victoria Makinjewola.
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And today I am joined by a special guest.
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His name is Isaiah Lee.
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What's going on?
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What's going on, Isaiah?
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It's good to have you here.
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So Isaiah is someone I follow on social media.
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We've been following each other for a hot minute.
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He does music.
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His Instagram bio literally says he's a multidisciplinary visionary.
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talent and faith disruptor.
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He also has his own clothing company slash movement called Motivated by Losses.
Inspiration Behind 'Motivated by Losses'
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So first and foremost, like I want to know more about that.
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But before we get into that, how are you feeling?
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Good, good.
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Mentally, I'm getting there, but I'm good.
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I feel that.
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I feel that.
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Just over my head.
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Yeah, I'm good too.
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I'm good too.
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I'm like,
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It's been a day.
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It's been a busy day, but that's kind of, you know, we're going into a new season.
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So, you know, you're in Delaware, I'm in Texas, so it's getting cooler now in the South.
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So it's changing like weather wise, but also like in my own life.
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So, yeah.
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But which leads me to the question of your clothing line, motivated by losses.
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Like, how did you come up with that name and what all what's behind your brand?
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Actually, before the pandemic, I came up.
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Well, I didn't say I came up.
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I was sitting on my, I literally was sitting on my bed.
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Yeah.
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And God just put that in my head.
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Like, I literally heard him say it.
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I'm like, all right, cool.
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I don't know what it is.
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But I ended up making it into something.
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I just wrote it down.
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And long story short, lo and behold, three years later, you got a business license.
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Now you got the clothing.
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Now you got the company.
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But me personally, it's just things I've been through, like with losses with like women, with
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friends with me getting close to Christ, like, losing certain things, and it's like, dang, and me stressing, like, when do I get these things back?
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But I got to get motivated to stay with Christ because I can get those back, but they got to be better than what they were.
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So it's kind of like overcoming the past type of thing.
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And I follow your clothing brand on social media on top of like your personal
Isaiah's Multifaceted Ventures
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Instagram.
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So I've seen you do music.
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You have a book, if I'm not mistaken.
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You're an author.
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Like, tell me about some of these endeavors that you're doing because you're right now like.
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like in a lot of different avenues kind of.
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That's kind of something that I'm trying to do is be more multifaceted.
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So like how did you get into these different lanes?
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Music.
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So I actually play drums.
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I've been playing since I was two.
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So that's playing in the church.
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So that's self-explanatory.
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rap my older brother he um he was on power 99 which is a radio station in philadelphia and my mom was happy he was on there so maybe i could do it and i ended up doing it not getting on there but i ended up rapping and building relationships so i've been doing a lot of things from there yeah um what were some of your biggest influences uh musically music wise nipsey rest in peace okay yeah rest in peace yeah any reason i got into the independent space so yeah
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Wow, that's a good question.
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That is you.
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I really honestly nipped.
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I used to listen to Jay, but since I got closer to Christ, I'm not really checking for Jay.
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You know you know.
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If you don't, we can talk about that.
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Right, right.
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No, I definitely nipped for sure, so definitely nipped.
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And then as far as the books, I've always wanted to write books, but I was just like, I don't know.
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One day I just wrote something and it came out dope and I just sold it to my friends.
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But now I'm actually, you're the first person to know this.
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I'm actually working on another one now, but it's a quotable book.
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Congratulations.
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Yep.
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So it's getting done now.
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The cover's actually getting done now as we speak.
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The book hopefully will be done.
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Sometime in November, I want to do a little book signing out here in Delaware.
Journey into Teaching and Youth Empowerment
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Yeah.
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And it's kind of like, I'm going to do it for free.
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And then obviously, you purchase the book, but you're getting there for free.
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So that's a whole thing there.
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That's really cool.
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That's really cool.
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I love that.
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I'm still looking at your social media page, right?
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So you told me that you're an author.
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You're a teacher as well.
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So what made you want to give back to the youth or to the young?
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the younger generation, like I'm, I'm a Gen Z, right?
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So this podcast is really tailored to, to be about, you know, Gen Z and mental health.
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But my first question for you is like, why, why the younger generation and what, what do you think like they need the most?
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Um, so for me being a teacher, I actually did.
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So the way I became a teacher actually through some people that I personally know in my area.
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And I know I, once I moved to Delaware, when I was 12, I just grew up with these people and they ended up having a, uh, uh,
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I guess you can say like a scholastic staffing agency.
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And it was part of this, can be part of this.
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So I was part of it and they go into different schools and they, uh, they teach.
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But before that, I was just going to different schools and speaking to kids.
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And I went to a team warehouse and I was speaking to those kids there and they was liking me.
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They requested me to come to their school.
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I came and you know that.
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So yeah,
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Hey, just be a teacher.
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I was like, all right, cool.
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So I go to different schools and teach.
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Now, as far as Gen Z, I got a lot of homies like that at the jobs, like the school, like these are my young guys.
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And from what they tell me, they tell me a lot of personal things.
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And I look at them like, they're not in the streets, but they just do things that unfortunately young kids do at their age.
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So I look at them like, okay, look, I'm not about to shove this.
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Don't do this.
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Don't do this.
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I'm not going to shove that.
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throat.
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I'm going to learn what you do, why you do it, what's the root cause of it, how can we prevent it from the next time.
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And if you do get involved in this situation, how can you be the leader and stand up and say, yo, I can't do this.
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I got this going on right here.
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You're actually the first person to know this also.
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So the company motivated by losses, obviously we're doing a, I don't know how to word it, but it's like an entrepreneurship type of kit where we end up doing is we're going to get, hopefully next year, next year we'll probably start it, but we're going to get a waters.
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I have personal, I'm working on some chips and stuff.
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So we got waters, chips, and maybe some t-shirts.
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And what we're doing is I'm going to give these kids a shot.
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I'm going to go, look,
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You pay, let's just say, $30 for a kit.
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Right.
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And you can sell the items for however much you want.
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You ain't got to give me no money back.
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You can just sell them.
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Now you're building your entrepreneurship.
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And you come back, I want some more.
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Now you're starting to build this entrepreneurship.
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So that's like a little kit, I guess, we're trying to put together.
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Yeah.
Advice for Young Entrepreneurs
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For sure.
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Like you're, you're building up your brand.
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Like I'm trying to build up my own little brand with this podcast with, as told by Victoria, I created a blog before the podcast to get better at writing and my blog.
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Unfortunately, I lost all the content on there because I didn't back up my website, the data.
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So I had to like rebuild it from scratch.
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But what, what would you, what advice would you have for someone, a young person that wants to get into entrepreneurship or build their own brand?
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purpose over profit.
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Don't get in it for the money because when you get in for the money, that's all you think about and you're going to burn out quick.
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So I had to learn that.
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The crazy part is I'm 33, so I had to learn that.
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I literally learned that at probably like 26, 27.
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Yeah, I'm 26.
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Yeah.
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Why are you doing this?
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What is your purpose in this?
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Well, my purpose is to build up my community or help my family out or, you know, support.
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Let's just say, you know, me and my girlfriend's relationship.
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Like we're trying to build a company.
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She needs to see somebody do something.
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Okay, cool.
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But we can build it this way instead of going this way.
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This way is legal and you're not going to go to jail.
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You're not going to get no beef.
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You're not going, you know, stuff like that.
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So that's really what I would say.
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That's real.
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That's that's real.
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It applies to really anything that we do, like even if you're an athlete, like because, you know, some people, if you're really good at one thing, you put you try to put like your talent above like your purpose.
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And that doesn't always work sometimes.
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because your talent can only lead you so far.
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And then the rest is like, well, what's my purpose?
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Like there has to be something bigger than XYZ basketball, you know, whatever you're doing.
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So, so yeah, that's really important to keep in mind.
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And like speaking of faith, I'm also like a person of faith and everything.
Spiritual Journey and Faith
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I noticed that you like post a lot of like motivational quotes and talking about God and like your spiritual journey.
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Like, can you talk more about that?
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Like, how do you involve your, your faith
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into your craft, being that you're an artist.
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So crazy part is I, so I followed God a long time, but I never like submitted to him.
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You could follow somebody, but you're not submitting to the leadership of what they got going on.
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That's right.
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So I'm like, dang, okay, boom.
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Then recently I went through a situation
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And it's like, dang, God, this hit me a little bit different because this is a situation that I never thought I would lose.
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And I don't feel comfortable losing it because we both jumped into this faith thing together.
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And it's like, dang, okay, so what do I do now, God?
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God is like, all right, well, look, you've been doing all of this.
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It's just me and you now.
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So you got to figure this out.
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What you going to do to me and let me do it?
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I'm learning to let go, not of the situation, but just let God do what he do.
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That's the hardest thing.
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America.
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Being still.
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Being still.
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That's the hardest thing because you want something.
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You're looking at it like, nah, this is it.
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You saw me the vision.
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You're like, I get you, but I got to break you down to get you better because if I had to gave it to you when I gave it to you, it's already jacked up.
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So now I got to fix it.
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Then I got to deal with this consequence.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So that's really where I'm learning.
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And that's where my faith comes in with a lot.
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It's like, okay.
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I got to deal with this consequence.
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So now let me just do something else, such as the music, the business, stuff that I've been doing.
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But it just feels better now that I'm like, okay, God got this.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And I've learned now that you can literally just live, but just give God the glory in the midst of what you're doing.
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Once I learned that, I'm like, oh, so I can still do what I'm doing and not be
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Because at the end of the day, the goal is to serve the Lord Jesus Christ, which is what he is to me.
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But the goal overall is to get to the kingdom of heaven and have eternal life, et cetera.
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Because the reality is, you can say you believe in God, faith, Christian, and all that, but if you ain't really submitting to what he's saying, then you kind of got an issue there.
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Because this is not the end of... And people say this, oh, the earth is hell.
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Probably to you, because you don't know what really is going on, but...
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It ain't, it ain't, this ain't nothing compared to them telling you.
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That's real.
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That's real.
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And one thing that's been on my heart, like even before, like jumping on this episode with you was that like, what's for you won't pass you.
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Like what's for me is not going to pass me.
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Like, and that's something that I've had to, I'm still trying to get comfortable with because I think I've been very uncomfortable with like, I have to chase, like I have to chase for what's mine.
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Like it's,
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it doesn't feel like it's going to come with ease.
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Like, I feel like I have to go towards it because like you said, you just said like, you're learning how to be still and like, just accept like what God has for you.
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But it's difficult for me because I also feel on the other side of the coin is that faith without works is dead.
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So it's like, I can't, I can't just be still right.
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Like I have to move.
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I have to like,
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make some sort of traction, you know, because fire doesn't just spring up.
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You have to like, you got to like have some friction going, right?
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So I'm just kind of in that season where I'm like, do I be still or do I like just go ham right now and then see what comes out of it?
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I feel like with that, even with me personally, I feel like I'm learning that the situation I'm in is with another individual.
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So I'm like, dang, this is, you know, whatever.
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But
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I'm learning that God is like, okay, well, if you want this individual, this individual has been through a lot.
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You've been through a lot.
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I got to break you down.
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That's the work I got to do in you.
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Once I figure out, you got to do this work in me so then God could bring this together.
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My mindset is just like yours sometimes.
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I always think to myself, God, what if you're doing all this work and this ain't that.
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You might as well tell me this now so I ain't got a trick.
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But God is like, no, if I told you this now, then you wouldn't be going through this.
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I'm like, bro, this is a lot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I feel like, and I know, and I was...
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It's a lot too on my side, but I just feel like sometimes I feel alone or lonely being that I'm the only person in my unique situation experiencing what I'm experiencing and feeling what I'm feeling.
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However, I know that there's a whole generation of people, a whole world of people that are going through something that I don't even know what they're going through.
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It could be worse than me, but I'm kind of caught up in my own worldview because I'm the only one going through it.
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That's right.
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So partly I feel selfish for that sometimes.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's just a reminder that everybody is going through something.
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Like we're all dealing with something.
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Yeah.
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That's the truth.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hi there.
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How are you feeling?
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I want to go back to like the music
Music Recommendations and Positivity
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thing.
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So you have put me on to like a lot of good music, like with Madison, Madison, Ryan Ward.
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She's a Christian artist from Oklahoma.
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Literally.
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Thank you for like posting on your story.
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Like her song green.
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Like I listened to her whole album and I absolutely love it.
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So do you have any other like artist recommendations?
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Yeah.
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No, that's a lot.
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Madison.
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Yeah, Madison is definitely... Crazy part is... I'm going to tell you, I find all these people.
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I was going to TikTok.
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Really?
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I literally just type in Christian R&B artist.
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And...
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There's another guy called Sire, S-I-R-E.
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He's Marcus Brown, don't he?
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Yes, from New Zealand or Australia.
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He's fire.
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And I'm actually trying to get him on my podcast.
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Well, I want to... I'm telling you this first, but I want to get him on my podcast.
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I'm...
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But yeah, I would love to have him on because I listen to his music every single day and it has uplifted me, uplifted my spirit and carried me through certain interactions and things like that.
00:16:23
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Nah, him, he's dope.
00:16:25
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Him, Madison, who else is dope?
00:16:28
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This guy named Scooty Wap.
00:16:31
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He's dope.
00:16:32
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Obviously Lecrae because I grew up on him.
00:16:34
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Oh yeah, yeah.
00:16:36
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Um, Hovey.
00:16:40
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I'm going to put you on.
00:16:41
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Yeah, just put me on.
00:16:44
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Slide me some Spotify.
00:16:46
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I literally sit on TikTok sometimes and I just type in R&B.
00:16:50
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But the thing is, these artists sound exactly like
00:16:55
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The people that I used to listen to.
00:16:57
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Uh-huh.
00:16:58
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Yeah.
00:16:59
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Like the mainstream.
00:17:01
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Yeah.
00:17:02
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And they sound better.
00:17:02
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And they're not giving you songs that's derailing you towards negative stuff.
00:17:07
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Right.
00:17:07
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Right.
00:17:07
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You know what I'm saying?
00:17:08
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So that's a big thing.
00:17:10
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That's awesome.
00:17:11
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That's awesome.
00:17:12
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So I'm curious to know what, in this season that you're currently in, what are some of your goals, I guess, moving forward for...
00:17:21
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the rest of 2023.
00:17:22
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First of all, I even ask you how your year has been.
00:17:25
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How has your year been so far?
00:17:27
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How are you trying to close out this year as we go into next year?
00:17:31
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My year has been just like everybody else's year.
00:17:34
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What do you mean?
00:17:37
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Listen, ups and downs, we confused.
00:17:40
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This thing is everything.
00:17:42
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But to close it out, I'm just trying to get closer to Christ and do what he want me to do.
00:17:44
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The crazy part is that I've realized that
00:17:48
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Every day we wake up in the morning, maybe you can attest to this too, but I feel like every day we wake up, I feel like we're doing the same thing.
00:17:55
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Like not meaning directly, but we wake up, we're doing the same thing we did last week, the same thing we did yesterday.
00:18:01
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But different issues arise, but it's the same.
00:18:04
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It's different clothes, different hairstyle, but the days, it's the same sometimes.
00:18:09
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It has a repetitive vibe to it.
00:18:12
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I feel that.
00:18:13
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Not for sure.
00:18:13
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Then I get, to me personally, I'm like, yo, God, there's got to be more.
00:18:17
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More.
00:18:18
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Yeah.
Life Challenges and Personal Growth in 2023
00:18:20
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More work yesterday.
00:18:21
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Mm-hmm.
00:18:22
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It's like, you know, something could happen to you last week.
00:18:25
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You think about it for a whole week.
00:18:27
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Mm-hmm.
00:18:28
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And the next day you wake up, you're like, okay, God, I'm over it.
00:18:31
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30 seconds later.
00:18:32
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I'm not over it.
00:18:34
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It's over it.
00:18:35
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Your brain is just like, dang, maybe I ain't.
00:18:37
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And you wake up and you're like, okay, God.
00:18:39
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Like how you said earlier where it's like, I got to chase.
00:18:41
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I got to chase.
00:18:42
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I wake up.
00:18:43
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Let me check this.
00:18:44
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Did they do this?
00:18:45
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Did they do that?
00:18:46
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Yeah.
00:18:47
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Reality, when you're waiting on God, it's like, okay.
00:18:49
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So what do I do?
00:18:51
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Yeah.
00:18:51
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So.
00:18:53
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And I think one thing is that a lot of people, and you could probably attest to this, a lot of people are in routines, for example.
00:19:02
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So like, let's say you and a friend, y'all talk every day.
00:19:05
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Then maybe a week, y'all don't talk.
00:19:07
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Then y'all don't talk for like a month.
00:19:09
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And if y'all was feeling weird, it's like, okay, this doesn't feel right.
00:19:13
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And they just go MIA.
00:19:14
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You're like, okay, this is weird.
00:19:16
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And I feel like that's, it's weird because it's like,
00:19:20
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I feel like people know that they're in a routine, but we're living in a world where it's like, I can break the routine anytime I want without having to know other people's schedules.
00:19:31
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Yeah.
00:19:32
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It's jacked up a bit.
00:19:34
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Yeah.
00:19:34
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Yeah.
00:19:35
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It's a tricky time.
00:19:36
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It's a tricky time.
00:19:38
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I would say my 2023, wow, it's been all over the place.
00:19:48
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over the place but yet i feel like i've kind of been on a steady line because it's like i'm still here yeah it's like i started here at the beginning of this year like i'm still at home transparency i live at home with my parents my sister so you know i in january i would have been oh i'm gonna have my own apartment i'm gonna have my own car and
00:20:10
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I'm still here.
00:20:11
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And I'm like, I'm not mad at myself for that.
00:20:13
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Like I'm not beating myself up, but I do have my moments where I'm like, I could be a little farther along than I'm at now.
00:20:21
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But here's a question for you.
00:20:23
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You saying, not saying you're wrong, but you saying that you could be farther along, but would you be ready for it?
00:20:31
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You see?
00:20:32
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I don't know.
00:20:34
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I mean, yeah, I don't know.
00:20:36
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I don't know.
00:20:37
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I feel like in my mind and our mind can tell us or make us think that we should be farther along than we need to be.
00:20:45
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But our reality is like we have our reality for a reason.
00:20:48
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And it's like, wait, maybe I should pull back.
00:20:50
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Like maybe I'm not ready for all that yet because I'm ready for the responsibilities that come with that.
00:20:56
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Can I handle it?
00:20:59
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Like, it's tough because it looks good mentally, but then we actually sit down and be like, wait, I got to take care of this, this.
00:21:08
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Yeah, yeah.
00:21:09
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Light bill is, you know, $100.
00:21:11
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No bills.
00:21:12
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That's a full...
00:21:15
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You're like, oh, I got to make more money.
00:21:17
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Yeah, that's the whole thing.
00:21:19
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That's the whole conversation.
Complexity of Mental Health and Emotions
00:21:23
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Speaking of mental health, tomorrow is actually World Mental Health Day, October 10th.
00:21:28
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So, yeah.
00:21:31
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I do believe you, but who be making these days up?
00:21:34
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I know.
00:21:35
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I know.
00:21:37
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I told my mom that and she was like,
00:21:39
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Every day is a mental health day.
00:21:41
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Like, we all have mental health.
00:21:43
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So, like, what does mental health mean to you?
00:21:48
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Like, how do you prioritize?
00:21:50
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Last week was National Girlfriend Day.
00:21:52
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So, I'm like, what is that?
00:21:53
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Yeah, I saw it.
00:21:54
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Yeah, it was National Boyfriend Day.
00:21:55
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Yeah, Boyfriend Day.
00:21:57
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Yeah.
00:21:57
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Let me see.
00:21:59
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Mental health.
00:22:01
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That's a tough question because.
00:22:03
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Yeah.
00:22:04
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And not saying that's a bad question from you, but it's a tough question because everybody has their own idea of what it is or people just be making it up.
00:22:14
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I got mental health issues.
00:22:16
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People that are depressed, suicide, almost on a verge of dying, be worried about mental health.
00:22:24
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But I get it.
00:22:25
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But for me, mental health is really that, really finding your...
00:22:32
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It goes back to faith.
00:22:33
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It's like finding your faith.
00:22:34
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And I feel like a lot of people don't know what that is.
00:22:37
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That's real.
00:22:38
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My mom was like, my mom says something to the terms of like, get right with Jesus or something.
00:22:43
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That's mental health.
00:22:45
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And like, for me, it's even hard to even answer that or ask people that question too.
00:22:50
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Because when I first started this podcast, I was like, well, I want this to be mental health based.
00:22:54
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I didn't really understand what that meant at the time.
00:22:56
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If I'm being honest with you, I knew it was like a word going around.
00:22:59
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But my initial purpose was, I just want to talk to people and like hear what's on their mind.
00:23:05
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that's that's what this is all about that's what feeling your feelings means to me is to like us let out have like a a moment where we just like feel our feelings together whatever is in your mind you can take it out here and that's you know i feel like that's that's mental health right there because you are expressing your emotions in a healthy manner you're not going somewhere doing something crazy or
00:23:30
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something detrimental to your own physical health.
00:23:33
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But there are, I give credit to other platforms that are doing things better because I kind of put pressure on myself to be just like in that avenue, like the psychological therapeutic type thing.
00:23:47
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And I'm like, that's not really for me.
00:23:49
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Like, it's not really for me.
00:23:51
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I just want to talk to people, people that I find interesting.
00:23:54
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Cause the reality is with mental health is,
00:23:57
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It's a popular word.
00:23:59
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It is.
00:23:59
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Trendy.
00:23:59
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It's trendy.
00:24:00
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And a lot of people don't know what it really means.
00:24:02
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Exactly.
00:24:03
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When people say, oh, my boyfriend was a narcissist or this person's a narcissist, you don't know really what that means.
00:24:09
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Right.
00:24:09
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When people say, be humble, be humble.
00:24:11
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If you look at the definition in the Bible, it's totally different from what the world is saying.
00:24:16
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Or if you look at the actual word, humble, it's not what you think it is.
00:24:19
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So like you said, I feel like people throw that word around because it sounds good.
00:24:24
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and oh, I'm going through something today.
00:24:26
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I got mental health.
00:24:27
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I need to take a mental health day.
00:24:28
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Bro, just say you don't want to go to work.
00:24:29
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You don't want to go to work, my boy.
00:24:33
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All this action issue talking about, you know, because the reality is mental, but mental health is true.
00:24:39
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Like depression, me personally, depression is a feeling.
00:24:44
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It does affect your mental, but it's a feeling.
00:24:47
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It might last a long time, but you'll get over it eventually.
00:24:51
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Don't, then that's tough because a lot of people don't get over depression.
00:24:54
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Yeah.
00:24:55
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I think we all have to find our own personal definition.
00:24:58
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There's no one right definition of it.
00:25:00
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If that's one thing that I've learned from doing this since like 2020, relatively new to all like learning about it, is that everybody has a unique definition of mental health and there's no right or wrong answer.
00:25:13
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No one person can say, this is what mental health is.
00:25:16
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It's like, but you're you, we are not the same.
00:25:20
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We haven't walked in the same shoes.
00:25:21
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So mental health wouldn't be the same for me.
00:25:27
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People argue that a lot.
00:25:29
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I was talking to him the other day and we were just arguing about where we come from with the police and the shootings and all that.
00:25:35
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And his thing was like, man, the cops, they're trying to kill us and take us down because of government, this and this.
00:25:42
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Where I'm from, because he's from a suburb and I'm from PA, but it's kind of like hood, but still suburb.
00:25:47
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Where I'm from,
00:25:49
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police, we shoot each other every day.
00:25:51
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Like, it's nothing new to us.
00:25:53
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He's like, yeah, but it's all a racist joke.
00:25:55
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I'm like, bro.
00:25:57
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But then again, that, not argument, but that disagreement comes from, like you said, where are we from?
00:26:02
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Like you said, mental health, you might be, you know, you sitting in your room all day eating food, you know, going through something.
00:26:08
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You know, it might be depression going on social media and that actually depresses me.
00:26:13
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Like, you know, so like you said, it's all relative, but I think what people don't understand is that you cannot put
00:26:19
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As Nipsey said, your expectations are me on me.
00:26:21
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Like you can't put your lifestyle and your depression on me.
00:26:24
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So if you tell me depression is me, depression is sitting in your room eating food when you're going through it.
00:26:30
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No, depression for me is going outside doing X, Y, Z. No, it's not.
00:26:35
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It's...
00:26:35
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You know, and that's where the arguments are.
00:26:37
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The right and wrong.
00:26:39
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Yeah.
00:26:39
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Yeah.
00:26:39
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We definitely live in that world.
00:26:41
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That's the cancel culture world that we have to live in and we have to navigate, which is like another thing I'm curious to know from you is like when it comes to Gen Z, which is another popular term, like what do you think is like the biggest impact on our mental health?
00:26:57
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Well, like I said, because I work with students, so that'd be easy.
00:27:01
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Impact is...
00:27:02
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Like what messaged y'all head up a little bit, I guess you could say?
00:27:06
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From your perspective, like what are you observing?
00:27:08
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Well, I'm observing one, that that social media is nuts.
00:27:11
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Just to a point where now, I look at it like a community.
00:27:19
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So when you get on your phone, you're like inside your house.
00:27:25
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Mm-hmm.
00:27:26
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Mm-hmm.
00:27:26
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If you get off your phone, you're walking outside and it's real people.
00:27:29
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So if you're sitting in your house all day and you go outside, you're like, oh, snap, this is a real person.
00:27:33
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These people are real.
00:27:34
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Like, I've seen videos where these kids will be arguing with Chris Paul or yelling at LeBron or doing whatever they're doing and, like, not knowing these are really grown men.
00:27:45
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Yeah.
00:27:46
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I saw his comment section today and there were some wild comments.
00:27:49
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And he was just, like, wishing his son a happy birthday.
00:27:52
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And just the disrespectful comments from that,
00:27:55
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I'm like, this is ridiculous, guys.
00:27:57
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Ridiculous.
00:27:59
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I didn't see the video, but it was like a picture of the bull Kevin Gates and that situation that he had going on with the girl spitting in the mouth.
00:28:04
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It was nuts.
00:28:05
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But I seen the picture in my head and everybody was commenting like, man, that's what I like.
00:28:10
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That's what I like.
00:28:11
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That's what I like.
00:28:11
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I'm sitting here like, yo, this is real life.
00:28:14
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Like, do you not know that this device right here is turning into somebody's home?
00:28:19
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Like, people live on this.
00:28:20
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So, like, if I'm videotaping our conversation on my phone, I can post this on Instagram.
00:28:26
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And somebody could comment, oh, look at her hair.
00:28:29
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Oh, look at his shirt.
00:28:30
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I'm like, yo, she's the coolest fan of real life.
00:28:34
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And people be making their narratives too.
00:28:39
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And that's something that our generation has to live with is dealing with trolls, dealing with just mean people and bullies and strangers on the internet because you don't know what can come at you.
00:28:52
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So I feel like we are more
00:28:54
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adjusted to it in a sense because we've grown up with it and then the next generation, I think Gen Alpha, this is their life.
00:29:02
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This is their whole life.
00:29:05
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It's just something that I think for me, I think maybe I've kind of tuned out.
00:29:10
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I've kind of gotten used to it.
00:29:11
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If I get a troll comment, it's not going to break my soul because I know I can block.
00:29:17
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I know I have the tools to delete.
00:29:18
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I know I have the tools to report.
00:29:21
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I know I have
00:29:22
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the Holy Spirit that can come to me, you know?
00:29:25
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So that's a lot.
00:29:27
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And I'm still learning how to be unique and not take things so personally.
00:29:34
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Yeah, nah, for sure.
00:29:35
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Honestly, I don't even block people because...
00:29:39
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And this sounds crazy, but I'll probably block them cash app joints because them doings is weird.
00:29:45
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They are so audacious.
00:29:48
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Word, big ones for them people.
00:29:50
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Yeah, seriously.
00:29:51
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Yo, I'll send 25 to 200.
00:29:52
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No, I'm not sending you nothing.
00:29:55
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No.
00:29:55
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Seriously.
00:29:56
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Somebody hit me one day on a cash app.
00:29:58
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They was like, yo, well, I know you rap and I'll give you...
00:30:04
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$3,000 to perform at a party.
00:30:05
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Just send me your cash app and your Apple Pay.
00:30:07
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I was like, nope.
00:30:07
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As soon as you say cash app and Apple Pay, mm-mm.
00:30:14
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We got to figure something out with the contract.
00:30:16
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Yeah, they're doing it with robo calls.
00:30:18
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They're pretending to be the government to get people to pay student loan money and stuff like that.
00:30:23
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I got one of those calls one time.
00:30:25
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They almost got me.
00:30:26
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They almost got me.
00:30:27
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And I was like, I think I forgot what I asked, but they hung up really fast.
00:30:31
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I ain't gonna lie.
00:30:32
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I remember that.
00:30:33
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One song called me.
00:30:35
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They was like, what did they say?
00:30:37
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They said, it was like, yeah, you need to come to the police station in New York because you're wanted for something.
00:30:45
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I was like, I went to the episode.
00:30:46
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I said, yo, what does this mean?
00:30:49
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Because I wasn't hit to Apple at the time.
00:30:51
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I'm like, nah, bro.
00:30:53
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Did you know you could look up somebody's phone number on Google and it can show you where they live?
00:30:59
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Oh, no, that's wild.
00:31:00
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Did you know that?
00:31:03
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I know it now, but I know my address doesn't pop up.
00:31:06
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So I'm just like, this is wild.
00:31:11
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You can't just get this number to everybody.
00:31:13
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I'm not going to lie.
00:31:14
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I did.
00:31:14
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I tried it one time.
00:31:14
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Matter of fact, I tried it with myself because I remember somebody told me.
00:31:18
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I tried it.
00:31:18
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My address popped up.
00:31:19
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I'm like, how do people know that?
00:31:24
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But you can actually go to those websites, that website, whatever website you went to, and you can call their customer service and be like, hey, take this off.
00:31:33
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I don't want this listed on your website.
00:31:35
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There was another website that if you just type in a person's name, it'll show you their records, like public records and all that kind of stuff.
00:31:42
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And I think...
00:31:43
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I had emailed the company or was it my profile or my mom?
00:31:46
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Something.
00:31:47
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And I emailed them like, take this off.
00:31:49
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I don't want this to show up on any like listings on Bing, on Google.
00:31:53
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And they were like, yeah, we'll take it off.
00:31:54
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We'll take like nothing.
00:31:55
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No, no or anything.
00:31:58
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As I get found, stuff happens.
00:32:00
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Right.
00:32:01
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So I rebuke all of that on any of us, man.
00:32:07
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But yeah, so I want to get into a speed round if you are ready.
00:32:12
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So this is basically a list of questions where you just answer in a little brief one or two word answers, a brief one sentence.
00:32:21
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Ready to do this, Isaiah?
00:32:21
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Let's do it.
00:32:23
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Okay.
00:32:24
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So what is the last song that you listened to?
00:32:27
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Ooh.
00:32:28
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Ooh.
00:32:30
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That's crazy.
00:32:31
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I just was listening to the song.
00:32:32
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I literally just listened to it.
00:32:34
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I got it.
00:32:34
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I'm about to pull it up.
00:32:35
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Last song I listened to was Amen by Noby.
00:32:41
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By Noby?
00:32:42
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N-O-B-Y.
00:32:44
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Okay.
00:32:45
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Okay.
00:32:46
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I like to hear to see like, oh, what's next?
00:32:47
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What should I put on my playlist next?
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Okay.
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There we go.
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Finish this sentence.
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I truly believe that.
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I truly believe that everything that I ask God for will happen in his time.
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Amen.
00:33:03
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Amen.
00:33:03
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Yes, sir.
00:33:05
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My favorite book is?
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Dang, yo.
00:33:09
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Because I like to read.
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Take your time.
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Take your time.
00:33:17
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Why do things catch on?
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Contagious.
00:33:20
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Why do things catch on by Jonah Berger?
00:33:25
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Was that a movie?
00:33:27
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I think it turned to a movie.
00:33:28
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I know it was a book.
00:33:29
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I think it was probably just an interview, but I know it might have turned to a movie.
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Okay.
00:33:35
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Love that.
00:33:35
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Love that.
00:33:37
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I'm reading a book.
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I just finished reading a book called Be Water, My Friend by Shannon Lee.
00:33:43
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I actually have it.
00:33:44
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Let me see it.
00:33:46
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Shannon Lee, so Bruce Lee's daughter.
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That's fire.
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This has blessed my soul.
00:33:51
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You know how I told you I like sitting outside under the trees by like a duck pond?
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No, that's fire.
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It's blessed my soul.
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Bewarded, my friend.
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In two words, I would tell my younger self too.
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Fine God.
00:34:09
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I definitely would say, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
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Yes, sir.
00:34:13
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Amen.
00:34:15
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And last question for you is right now, I feel.
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Why are you laughing?
00:34:21
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I got a million things I can tell you.
00:34:24
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That's funny.
00:34:27
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Stressed.
00:34:29
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That's real.
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I got some more and I'm just like... That's real.
00:34:35
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Okay.
00:34:36
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That's real.
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But it's good that you acknowledge it because sometimes we try to mask how we really feel.
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Like, oh, I'm good.
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And you know you're not.
00:34:46
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And we have those feelings for a reason.
00:34:48
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I truly believe that if someone is angry, for example,
00:34:53
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that's okay to sit with it for a little bit because if you don't, it's gonna come out in other negative ways.
00:34:59
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So it's like, feel it for a reason, but just don't sit in it too, too long.
00:35:04
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But thank you so much, Isaiah, for coming on my show, feeling your feelings with me.
00:35:11
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Where can my listeners find you?
00:35:14
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Everywhere.
00:35:15
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At Isaiah Lee Music, I-S-A-I-H-L-E-E-M-U-S-I-C on the social medias.
00:35:24
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My website, Isaiah Lee Music, which is actually getting done.
00:35:26
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So by the time, probably October, it'll be done.
00:35:29
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And that's pretty much it.
00:35:34
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YouTube, Isaiah Lee Music will come up.
00:35:36
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I got like four videos.
00:35:37
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I took most of my videos down and I'm redoing everything.
00:35:40
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Okay.
00:35:40
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Okay.
00:35:41
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Yeah.
00:35:43
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What about your clothing line?
00:35:44
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:35:45
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You can go to nbltheshop.com.
00:35:48
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It'll come up.
00:35:50
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Yeah, that's really it.
00:35:54
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Yeah, that's really it.
00:35:55
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I definitely would tell y'all to go check out Vicky's podcast.
00:36:00
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This is becoming one of the biggest podcasts for the Gen Z that a lot of people that's even positive, a lot of people ain't really positive like that.
00:36:12
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Check her out.
00:36:14
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Yeah, just build a relationship, man.
00:36:16
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Build a relationship with her.
00:36:19
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Not boyfriend, girlfriend, but build a business relationship with her, y'all.
00:36:22
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So she cracked and get more people on.
00:36:25
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Yeah.
00:36:26
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Disclaimers, you know, Gen Z kind of different.
00:36:29
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Yeah, for sure.
00:36:30
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Thank you so much for coming on my show.
00:36:33
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And as always, don't forget to be a kind person.
00:36:35
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You feel me?
00:36:36
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Bye.
00:36:38
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Sure.
00:36:39
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Yes.