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Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief Part One: Cast Analysis
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📖⚡ In this episode of Book Watch, we’re diving into the casting choices for Percy Jackson & the Olympians—both the 2010 movie and the 2023 Disney+ series. How well did each adaptation bring our favorite demigods to life? Did the casting choices reflect the heart of Rick Riordan’s beloved books?
💡 In Part 1, we’ll explore:
✅ The highs and lows of Logan Lerman vs. Walker Scobell as Percy
✅ Annabeth, Grover, and the gods—what worked, what didn’t
✅ How age-appropriate casting made a difference
Whether you grew up with Camp Half-Blood or you’re just arriving with the new series, this episode is for you!
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Personal Connection
00:00:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Welcome back listeners to another episode of book watch. I'm your host Sarah day. And today with me, I have Jordan Corrito. Jordan, thank you so much for joining me. Why don't you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself and your history with Percy Jackson?
00:01:02
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I'm 26. I'm from Orange County, California. And Percy basically has been one of my best friends since I was 12. That's when I first started reading these books.
00:01:17
Jordyn Carrido
And I've made so many friends through Percy, you know, sitting in the library at lunch and people coming up be like, hey, what are you reading? and We're still friends today. um and it's something that I've bonded with my sisters over. And i have a little cousin, she's 10, and she's starting to read them.
00:01:35
Jordyn Carrido
And so being able to connect with her and do like cousin book club with her and and talk about these books has been ah really awesome experience. So I'm a Percy fan for life.
00:01:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I love that. And i I feel the same way about Harry Potter because when Harry Potter first came out, I was 11, which is the same year he finds out that he's a wizard. So I also kind of grew up with Harry Potter and um similar very big fan base around Harry
Adaptation Differences
00:02:00
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Potter.
00:02:00
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But we're here to talk about Percy Jackson and the book, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, The Lightning Thief, was written in 2005 Rick Riordan.
00:02:00
Jordyn Carrido
Mm-hmm.
00:02:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
rick reared in And the audio book is narrated by Jesse Bernstein. And then we have a this is the first episode where we will be comparing a film to a show. So I'm really excited to see how this goes tonight.
00:02:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
The film was released in 2010. Directed by Chris Columbus and the screenplay credit goes to Craig Titley, whereas the show was released in 2023. The directing credit goes to Jabes Bobbin with four episodes, Anders Engstrom with three episodes, and Jet Wilkinson with three episodes as well.
00:02:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And then the writing credit goes to Daphne Olive and Jonathan E. Steinberg with Rick being heavily involved in that process.
00:02:58
Jordyn Carrido
And you can tell.
00:02:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, ah yes, definitely a big difference between the film and the show here, which I'm excited to dive into. But first, I want to talk to you as such a big fan and growing up with Percy.
00:03:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Why do you think that we have the show after we have a film? And first of all, why was the film? Why? Why was Percy Jackson adapted into a film in the first place? And why are we getting a show this time around?
Reception and Success of Adaptations
00:03:23
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, I think um originally when they brought out the movie, for me at least, Percy was in like its heyday. I think most books take a couple of years to get going before they reach like their peak popularity.
00:03:36
Jordyn Carrido
So for it to be... published in 2005 and then the movie happening in 2010, like that's just the perfect amount of time for enough kids and adults and all readers to get ahold of it and be like, Oh yeah, this is awesome.
00:03:49
Jordyn Carrido
We want to see this adapted.
00:03:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right. Right.
00:03:52
Jordyn Carrido
then and then it did not do well at least with the fan base I don't have numbers on box office success but I know the fan base generally we just don't talk about it it's the movie that shall not be named we just ignore it as much as possible because it got so much of the plot line wrong um and or they made changes that
00:04:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um the
00:04:13
Jordyn Carrido
we didn't like collectively. um And so they tried one more time with c ah with making the Sea of Monsters film. And then everybody was just like, please stop. Like, we can't do this anymore.
00:04:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:04:24
Jordyn Carrido
um But I think, you know, it's been enough time now. It's been, you know, 10 plus years from that film to this show. and the fan base is still strong. Like people are writing fan fiction and musicals off Broadway and merch and all of these things like people still really love Percy Jackson it still means a lot to the fans and i think it was time now that streaming is a thing and there's more people you know looking to watch shows in on Disney plus and in that you know genre it it was the right time and the show did really well and I'm very happy with it as a fan so I'm happy it's here
00:04:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:04:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:04:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:05:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I love to hear that because i my first introduction to Percy Jackson was the film. I didn't see it until recently for the podcast. um And then when the show came was announced, I was like, okay, it's time for me to try to give Percy Jackson a read.
00:05:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So I read the books and I read a few of them. um And then of course the show came out and i watched the show and and um it was a pretty good adaptation in my mind. So I'm excited to get into the the details with you since you are such a big fan and kind of grew up with Percy.
00:05:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So without further ado, let's kind of get into our key characters
Character Portrayals and Comparisons
00:05:42
Sarah-Daye McDougall
here. And of course we will start with Percy Jackson himself in the movie. Percy was played by Logan Lerman.
00:05:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And then then the show um he was played by the adorable Walker Scoble. So what are your thoughts on the differences in those two portrayals of Percy?
00:06:03
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, I find myself thinking of the Spider-Man comparisons between like Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland. Like, I think each of them had things that they did right and had things that were a little off. Like, and this is kind of nitpicky, but like Walker doesn't look like how Percy's described in the books. Like Percy's described more looking like Logan Lerman with the dark hair and light eyes. Yeah.
00:06:29
Jordyn Carrido
But personality wise, Walker is Percy. Like he just is Percy Jackson. He is a 12 year old boy. And I think that's hard too with for Logan because he is aged up. He's supposed to be, I think like 16 years old or something in the movie versus Percy when we first meet him is supposed to be 12.
00:06:47
Jordyn Carrido
So the mind of a 16 year old is not the same as the mind of a 12 year old. And so he was kind of set up to fail in that way, I think, because he's never going to be able to
00:06:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:06:57
Jordyn Carrido
get into the mind of a 12 year old when he's a 16 or however old he was when filming was happening uh yeah
00:07:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And I feel like the story itself was aged up, just like dialogue and things that were happening were also very aged up in the film.
00:07:11
Jordyn Carrido
yeah definitely i mean the first scene when he comes into camp half-blood and he sees annabeth and it's like hard eyes coming out of his head like it's that did not happen in the books when he first sees Annabeth, it's just like, oh, this is just another kid. Like he describes her and that's the end of it. And their, you know, love grows. It's a super slow burn because they're kids, but like it grows over the series and even into the sequel series that, you know, that Rick wrote.
00:07:42
Jordyn Carrido
um And then yeah, Grover, Grover probably is the character that they get wrong the most, to be honest, but he's so different in the movie.
00:07:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay, yeah, I'm excited to talk about this.
00:07:52
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:07:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Grover in the movie was just so cringe to me. And like, um no, okay, so Grover is played in the movie by Brandon T. Jackson and in the show played by Arian Simhadri.
00:08:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And the movie is just so cringe for me. And his character is just so different and completely aged up um and not in a good way.
00:08:10
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:08:19
Jordyn Carrido
No, i think I think both adaptations honestly still get Grover wrong. Like if you read the book and his dialogue, he's stuttering over his words. He's super nervous. He would never dare go up against the gods or, you know, Chiron or anybody that they meet. He's very timid. Like,
00:08:39
Jordyn Carrido
Are you sure we have to do this? Like, maybe we should do this. like Guys, I don't think this is a good idea. Like, that's his, that's he's that trope character.
00:08:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hey
00:08:47
Jordyn Carrido
And then in the movie, he's like, Mr. Cool, womanizer, playboy, like, what's up, girls?
00:08:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:08:52
Jordyn Carrido
Like, let's, oh, I'm go hang out with the Aphrodite cabin. Like... My Grover would never. Not my Grover. I'm so sorry. And then Arianne was a lot closer in the show than um then the movie version was.
00:09:05
Jordyn Carrido
But still, he... And I kind of liked the change because he's a little bit braver. He seems to kind of be a little bit more on the same level as Percy and Annabeth as far as, like, willingness to go on the quest.
00:09:17
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah. um And so like that felt a little bit more natural, as opposed to him being, you know, super hesitant, like he was in the book, but it's still like, if the goal is accuracy, i think both of them didn't really quite get there for Grover.
00:09:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. Sure. um And what are your thoughts on Annabeth in the movie played by Alexandra Daddario, big name? um And in the show, she is played by Leah Jeffries.
00:09:45
Jordyn Carrido
I Honestly, i don't... That one's hard because i Alexandra being so much older than how Annabeth was supposed to be, you can feel it.
00:09:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Uh-huh.
00:09:57
Jordyn Carrido
like she feels jaded and... jaded and like She feels like she could turn to the dark side just as easy as anybody else could because she's put out by the gods as well.
00:10:10
Jordyn Carrido
She's very one-track minded. felt like she was really one note and she didn't really change that much from beginning to end. um so And I remember like being super nitpicky when I was a kid and this movie came out and being like, she's not blonde. Like you guys had one job just to make her blonde and we didn't do it And then for Leah playing Annabeth in the show,
00:10:35
Jordyn Carrido
it because I think because they changed so much of the storyline and the themes regarding like the family of the Olympians and the dynamics and how they treat each other, she her character was changed too. Because a lot of her kind of side plot is worrying about impressing her mom or disappointing her mom.
00:10:59
Jordyn Carrido
And that's not really a factor in the book at all.
00:11:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:11:03
Jordyn Carrido
There's a lot more emphasis on glory and what does that mean to get your parents' attention in the show.
00:11:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:11:11
Jordyn Carrido
and that doesn't really happen in the book at all and so her character I think Leah did a great job acting wise like ah you can't ask for a better child actor than what we got for the show honestly um just yeah the characterization of her is and Percy and Grover too because of the way that they wrote the story is a little bit different but still probably overall better than the movie for sure
00:11:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. um And so before we get into the rest of our characters, let's talk about the trio, um because these are our three main characters. They're the ones that go on the adventure together.
00:11:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So how do you think the film, like their dynamics with each other and their chemistry with each other? How do you think the film portrayed them? And then how do you think the show portrayed them based on the book?
00:12:02
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, um the film, again, was hard with... Percy and Annabeth and Grover being aged up because there was constantly like almost like a sexual tension between Percy and Annabeth I kind of got it because they're older and in the book and in the show that doesn't happen because they're 12 so it's like not appropriate to do that um and then in the show there was a lot more like
00:12:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right. yeah
00:12:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:12:27
Jordyn Carrido
arguing between them and you know Grover had his whole little like consensus song and like arguing back and forth about like who's really in charge and you know I'm Annabeth and I've been in this world longer than you I've been at camp longer than you and I should be in charge and the person being like well it's my quest so I should be in charge
00:12:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:12:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:12:46
Jordyn Carrido
And that dynamic didn't really happen too much. But I think it was valuable because like, that's how 12 year olds are. Like 12 year olds just fight about everything all the time.
00:12:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:12:57
Jordyn Carrido
So even though it was different, it made sense. And I didn't mind it.
00:13:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
All right, great. um Yeah, I really liked the dynamic between the three of them in the show. um and I don't know the book as well because I've only read it one time.
00:13:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But I definitely didn't like – how they aged up these characters in the film. um Again, I've already said it was really cringe. There's a moment in the film where Grover has like a dance scene um on stage and it's just like, well, we spent way too much time. Like it shouldn't have been in the film anyway, but we spent way too much time on this dance scene. Yes.
00:13:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:13:36
Jordyn Carrido
I will say the soundtrack is so 2010 and it's like the best of 2010.
00:13:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:13:42
Jordyn Carrido
I will give the movie credit for that. You can tell that this movie was made in 2010 and in the best way. So that that's, that's the main positive.
00:13:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, I do recall a Gaga song and be like, oh, yeah, we've got some Gaga like that. I think that's actually the dance is to the Gaga song.
00:13:54
Jordyn Carrido
We got, yes we've got Gaga.
00:13:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But. um
00:13:58
Jordyn Carrido
We've got Kesha. We've got ACDC. I mean, you could have had a worse soundtrack for sure.
00:14:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yep. Yes, I agree. um Next up on the list is Luke, who is played by Jake Abel in the movie and then in the show is played by Charlie Bushnell.
00:14:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So what did you think of our two Lukes?
00:14:19
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, so luke Luke is always supposed to be like 19. So age-wise, he's consistent across film and show and book. um He's always supposed to be a little bit older. Annabeth, her relationship with him is supposed to be more of like...
00:14:35
Jordyn Carrido
Maybe she has a crush on him, but she doesn't really know what that means. But it really is just like idolizing him.
00:14:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:14:40
Jordyn Carrido
Like he's this older guy who has saved her life. And they were, you know, living on the streets together, trying to make it to Camp Half-Blood. And they have that history. um So the dynamic between him and Annabeth is really changed when she's aged up. Because now you're getting that, you know, classic teenage love triangle situation.
00:15:02
Jordyn Carrido
um And that just isn't something that I ever wanted to see. But I think Jake Abel did a great job playing Luke. Like I felt like the menace from him.
00:15:14
Jordyn Carrido
I felt that he was a danger to Percy, that he could have hurt Percy if he wanted to.
00:15:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:15:19
Jordyn Carrido
But he also did a great job of playing that like good guy Luke. is Like, you know, let me train you. I'll take care of you. I'll show you how things are done. um And Charlie did a great job too. I think, you know, it's a lot easier when you have more time, of course.
00:15:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah.
00:15:32
Jordyn Carrido
to spend with the character and interact with other characters for him to, you know, really sell it. But both of them, and again, an interesting consistency between the film and the show is that both of them, when they are giving their big monologue at the end about why they're doing what they're doing and why they stole the bull and are working with Kronos, it's very similar between them.
00:15:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:15:56
Jordyn Carrido
Like they, both versions of Luke are like, I hate my dad. I hate the gods. They don't treat us right. And this way I can you know get my revenge and and kind of fight back.
00:16:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:16:06
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:16:08
Jordyn Carrido
And Luke does say that in the book, but it's not quite as... like drawn out I guess and it's not quite as venomous it's just like I just don't like how things are I want to change versus movie Luke is like it's all about control like the next generation should rise up and like end the era of the gods and they don't mention Kronos at all in the film that part of it is completely wiped off the map
00:16:19
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:16:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:16:36
Jordyn Carrido
And then in the show, Luke does talk about Kronos, but he says, i want to go back to the golden age before the gods were in charge and before they were able to just mistreat us.
00:16:42
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:16:46
Jordyn Carrido
I want to go back to that. um So still both portrayals, I think, like hit all the important marks of Luke of being able to play the good guy who, you know, is your leader and shows you around camp for the first time and gets you to trust him.
00:17:01
Jordyn Carrido
And then that betrayal hurts both times.
00:17:06
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. um I liked like Jake Abel was who I would envision Luke being in the book. um But I think Charlie Bush now did a really great job portraying Luke.
00:17:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And, um you know, the age gap is more clear in the show because the kids are 12 instead of 16 like they are in the film.
00:17:23
Jordyn Carrido
Yes.
00:17:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But yeah, I am excited to see more from Charlie and I'm excited to see what Jake does in the next film.
Impact of Actor Portrayals
00:17:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um because i yet have i've yet to see that um but yeah so i'm really excited to reread the sea of monsters watch the film and await season two of percy jackson so uh that brings us to chiron who in the film is played by none other than pierce brosnan
00:17:47
Jordyn Carrido
yes
00:17:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And then in the show, I mean, it's a very unique role for him to like, it's just very surprising.
00:17:57
Jordyn Carrido
crazy pull yeah i
00:18:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And there's another surprising role, which I don't think I put her on my list, but we'll we'll talk about her as a little bonus character at the end. um So Pierce Brosnan playing Chiron in the movie.
00:18:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And then in the show, we have Glyn Turman.
00:18:21
Jordyn Carrido
I love Glenn's Chiron He feels the right age because Chiron is, you know, he's an immortal. He's thousands and upon thousands of years old. He was from the time of the golden, you Kronos's golden age.
00:18:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:18:36
Jordyn Carrido
You, I feel that with him, like just the his his voice and his mannerisms. Like I can, I feel like I can feel his ancient soul through the screen. He really captures that like wise teacher, you know, the old wizard who tells you what your quest is and how things work. Like,
00:18:54
Jordyn Carrido
he fits that perfectly. Pierce Brosnan, like, it was just a completely different vibe. Like, i know that that's what he was going for. And I did feel it but just like not as much.
00:19:07
Jordyn Carrido
And that I think I was more distracted by the fact like, oh my God, that's Pierce Brosnan. And I couldn't really focus on like him being Chiron. And then so many of his scenes with Percy were changed in the film.
00:19:20
Jordyn Carrido
And so their interactions were different.
00:19:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:19:22
Jordyn Carrido
That also, I was so busy like thinking about that and being like, what are we doing here you guys like that I couldn't really focus on like how meaningful the relationship between Chiron and Percy is supposed to be like in the book he's really a mentor he it's like Mr.
00:19:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:19:37
Jordyn Carrido
Chiron and but um Grover are the only two people that Percy trusts other than his mom and when he's stuck at boarding school that's all he's got and that relationship is really valuable to him and you don't really feel that as much in the film I think
00:19:43
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:19:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right. I agree. um And me not knowing the book as well as you, I was stuck on, wow, that's pur ah that's Pierce Brosnan.
00:20:06
Jordyn Carrido
yeah
00:20:06
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So because he's such like I have grown up with Pierce Brosnan being an actor in all these different roles. And so to see him in this fantasy, um fun, oddball role was just very distracting to me.
00:20:22
Jordyn Carrido
yeah yeah it was an interesting i feel like if he had been zeus that might have fit better but then they pulled sean bean for zeus i saw that and i completely forgot that part and so the movie started and i was like oh my god it's sean b it's ned stark on my screen what's going on here
00:20:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:20:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:20:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I know. Right. Yes. um So, yeah, let's talk about let's talk about Zeus and then we'll come back to Poseidon. um So Zeus, Sean Bean in the film and then Courtney B.
00:20:47
Jordyn Carrido
yeah
00:20:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Vance in the um show.
00:20:53
Jordyn Carrido
Yes. I thought it was Lance Reddick was Zeus in the show.
00:20:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay, let me pull that back up. Let's see. Internet movie database. I
00:21:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So my apologies, listeners. um Lance Reddick is Zeus in the first season. um But he passed away in 2023.
00:21:12
Jordyn Carrido
R.I.P. Yes, R.I.P. to the legend. He was a great Zeus, honestly. Like, he felt scary. And that's how Percy describes him in the book is, like, he's Zeus.
00:21:24
Jordyn Carrido
He's king of the gods. Like, he could dust you with a snap of his fingers, you know, Thanos style.
00:21:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:21:30
Jordyn Carrido
um And i you feel that menace from him. And the show changes that scene quite a bit, actually. um and Lance like threatening Percy with the master bolt like you really believe he's gonna do it until Poseidon cuts in and stops him.
00:21:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hmm.
00:21:51
Jordyn Carrido
That part of it didn't happen in the book, but I think it was a valuable scene to add. um as far as developing the relationship between Poseidon and Percy and showing, you know, the true depths of the gods and how far they're willing to go as immortal beings. And they don't think about harm and mortality the same way that a human would.
00:22:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:22:16
Jordyn Carrido
um So, yeah. and then Sean Bean, like, if really had, like, what two seconds of screen time like he wasn't even there that much he did fine job but i think yeah yeah
00:22:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. that I like his look for Zeus, but I don't know. i think like you're right. Like Zeus is the the king of the gods and he just didn't really give that powerful of a performance um at least you know not for this um but i did i like his look like for zeus um but then again i'm also used to the disney animated hercules version of zeus um so to see that just like you know powerful like
00:22:41
Jordyn Carrido
yeah
00:22:44
Jordyn Carrido
yeah
00:22:52
Jordyn Carrido
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
like
00:22:59
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:23:00
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah ah like aura, you know?
00:23:03
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, absolutely.
00:23:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And I do agree that Lance gave that, you know, menacing aura um in his, in his scene there in the last episode.
00:23:09
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:23:12
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:23:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So let's work our way back up to Poseidon, um who of course is the father of Percy and in the film is played by Kevin McKidd.
00:23:16
Jordyn Carrido
Mm-hmm.
00:23:19
Jordyn Carrido
Mm-hmm.
00:23:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And then in the show it is played by to Toby Stevens,
00:23:27
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah. um In the book, you really only see Poseidon in that last scene in the throne room with Zeus. You don't see him throughout the story.
00:23:38
Jordyn Carrido
You don't really even hear his voice.
00:23:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:23:41
Jordyn Carrido
He doesn't really like talk to Percy that much.
Relationship Dynamics in Adaptations
00:23:44
Jordyn Carrido
um He uses like other vessels to communicate with Percy. And the way that Sally talks about him is always, you know, very warm, very like,
00:23:53
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, he was, you know, he had to go away, but he really loved you. And it's very positive, you know, when she talks about him. And then in the movie, you same thing, don't really see him that much. He appears...
00:24:09
Jordyn Carrido
via voice in Percy's head a couple of times um to kind of guide him on the right path.
00:24:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:24:14
Jordyn Carrido
And then you see him at the end. And that's it. The show is really interesting to me because you see him in a flashback scene talking to Sally.
00:24:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:24:26
Jordyn Carrido
That scene does not happen in the book. It does add a lot to both of their characters, though, and the way that she talks about Poseidon and the way that Percy feels about Poseidon is really like better understood through that scene.
00:24:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:24:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:24:45
Jordyn Carrido
And I think Toby Stevens did a great job portraying Poseidon because I feel that he's a god. He feels like, respectfully, he feels like old and he feels like he's seen stuff.
00:24:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:24:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Wise.
00:24:59
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, wise. There you go. That's a better word. But yeah like he feels like he's he's seen this stuff. He knows how this story goes. But he also, i could feel that he really loves Sally and he really loves Percy and he really wants to do right by them but there's all these factors working against them you know and so he can't yeah he's god so he can't do everything that he wants to do as far as like being with them and supporting Percy and taking care of his family he just can't and I think the show by having that flashback scene really demonstrates that struggle a lot more than the book and certainly the movie do
00:25:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, he's God.
00:25:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:25:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, I remember seeing the flashback scene and knowing that was not in the book and and really appreciating that kind of um extra just ah background information, you know, background lore, world building, and character building.
00:25:52
Jordyn Carrido
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:25:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay, so now let's get into some characters that were cut from the film. um And let's start with Dionysus.
00:26:02
Jordyn Carrido
I love Mr. D. He just brings and just like the perfect amount of comedic relief when you need it Like these serious moments at camp where Percy's like, oh my gosh, like I'm the new kid again.
00:26:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:26:14
Jordyn Carrido
And my mom just got crushed into gold dust by the Minotaur. And like, I don't know what's going on. And he's just like, yeah, Peter Johnson, get over here. And it's funny and it lightens things up a little bit.
00:26:27
Jordyn Carrido
yeah. he's so funny in the show too like they got his costume right with his tiger hawaiian shirt like it was excellent
00:26:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. and
00:26:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Jason Mantzoukas is Dionysus in the show, um and he usually plays a good comedic character.
00:26:41
Jordyn Carrido
yes yes
00:26:47
Jordyn Carrido
Yes, I remember him most from Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
00:26:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, exactly.
00:26:50
Jordyn Carrido
And when I saw the casting, I was like, oh, that's perfect. he is He's Mr.
00:26:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Exactly. Yeah.
00:26:55
Jordyn Carrido
D. That's excellent. I couldn't have picked a better person.
00:26:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Good.
Character Exclusions and Additions
00:26:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I'm glad to hear it because I really did like his portrayal of Dionysus.
00:27:03
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:27:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay, next up, and I'm so interested to hear your opinion on this, Ares. Cut from the film, but Adam Copeland plays him in the show.
00:27:11
Jordyn Carrido
Aries. Yes. Yes.
00:27:14
Jordyn Carrido
Yes. i honestly, my biggest gripe overall with the movie is that it's like we kind of talked about. It's basically not based on the book.
00:27:25
Jordyn Carrido
Like they stole a couple of characters and a couple of plot points, but they really didn't follow it at all. And like Ares is a recurring character throughout the rest of the books. He is really important. His relationship with Percy after...
00:27:40
Jordyn Carrido
this book is really important going forward. And, you know, the threat that he makes at the end that, you know, at the end of the show that, you know, you've just made an enemy for life.
00:27:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:27:52
Jordyn Carrido
comes back in a later book.
00:27:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
her
00:27:54
Jordyn Carrido
So to completely erase that storyline, i was like, can't, what are we doing? Like, I, it's really important if you're thinking about the longevity of the franchise and where we go in the next book and the next book and the next book, he really does need to be there.
00:28:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:28:13
Jordyn Carrido
And so for them to just cut that character, i get it for time for the movie. I get it for, you know, you don't have as much, you know, you'll have hours and hours to do exposition and just, you know, describing things and explaining things.
00:28:28
Jordyn Carrido
But I think that's probably one of the biggest losses that the movie, you know, has is not having that, you know, plot line.
00:28:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right. When I just watched this for for the podcast, that was something that really stuck out to me. And I'm like, I'm waiting for Aries. I mean, there's a whole chapter ah titled, you know, A God Bought Me a Cheeseburger.
00:28:51
Jordyn Carrido
huh
00:28:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um an episode, I think, is called that as well. And so...
00:28:54
Jordyn Carrido
Which I love. I love that the episodes are and the titles of book chapters.
00:28:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:28:59
Jordyn Carrido
Like it's like, okay, I know exactly what, where we're going next.
00:29:00
Sarah-Daye McDougall
No, it was great.
00:29:02
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:29:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. um And so just to have that completely cut out. And again, we know ah show you have way more time and so certain stuff has to be cut from a film. But it did seem like an odd choice to, you know, add a dance number in the middle of the Lotus Hotel, but cut Aries out of the film.
00:29:22
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and you know, to go to transition from Ares to his his daughter, Clarice, the whole Percy discovering who his father is, that fight happens between him and Clarice in the book.
00:29:37
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:29:38
Jordyn Carrido
Annabeth and Luke are on are on his team for Capture the Flag.
00:29:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yep.
00:29:42
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:29:42
Jordyn Carrido
and Annabeth sets him up to be attacked by Clarice as a distraction for them to win, just like they do in the show, which was excellent.
00:29:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:29:50
Jordyn Carrido
um And so to come into camp Half-Blood, and everybody just already knows that he's the son of Poseidon, he moves straight into cabin three, he doesn't have that interaction with the Hermes cabin, he doesn't have the interaction with Clarice in the bathrooms, and like there's no
00:30:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:30:07
Jordyn Carrido
mystery to who is his dad and what kind of demigod is he going to be it just he's the son of poseidon and we boom and we're moving on and that's it i was like where's my girl that plot point of him fighting back against her and being brave enough to stand up to a bully is important to telling us and showing us who percy jackson is as a character and so to just rip that away is another huge loss for the film
00:30:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:30:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
huh
00:30:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Exactly.
00:30:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah And speaking of Clarice, again, cut from the film, but in the show, she is played by Dior Goodjohn.
00:30:42
Jordyn Carrido
Yes. Excellent. Excellent choice. She still like is young enough that when Clarice kind of has her tantrums and her bullying and like, I can't believe you've done this.
00:30:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:30:53
Jordyn Carrido
Like, I'm going to get you. Like, I believe that because she's still, you know, a kid and kids are like, I'm going to get you for that. But she's still, she is a cup supposed to be a couple of years older than Percy and Annabeth. I think she's like 13 or 14. Yeah.
00:31:07
Jordyn Carrido
um and so her being a little bit older is perfect and I'm really excited because she's she's a bigger character in Sea of Monsters so I'm really excited to see Dior take that next step and take on ah more of a leading role as opposed to just you know kind of a background character yeah
00:31:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:31:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, me too. I really liked her portrayal of Clarice. And I'm, again, excited to see season two.
00:31:31
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:31:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And then, it's
00:31:32
Jordyn Carrido
My only complaint with her is that she's a gorgeous, beautiful human being and Clarice is supposed to be like super ugly and unattractive. So I'm like, ah, what are you going to do?
00:31:43
Jordyn Carrido
Like she's, she's great though.
00:31:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right. And it's always hard to cast those characters that are supposed to be, you know, ugly and unattractive because it's like, how do you, you know, say this is an ugly character and how do you cast that?
00:31:55
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:31:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Like, you're the ugly person, you know, so it it is tough to do that anyway.
00:31:57
Jordyn Carrido
Right. Yeah. It, There's no good way to do it, but like her mannerisms and the aura she gives off of you know being really intimidating and a child of the God of War, she nails that perfectly.
00:32:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, I agree. um i thought i thought she did a really good job. And again, I'm excited to see her in season two. And I'm excited to see CF Monsters and how if they introduced this character. I'm sure it's just going to be like, she's here now um at Camp Half-Blood.
00:32:27
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:32:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:32:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But um let's move on to Hermes. um Not in the film, in the show played by none other than Lin-Manuel Miranda.
00:32:39
Jordyn Carrido
Mm-hmm.
00:32:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Now, remind me, because it's been a minute since I reread the book, is Hermes, does he appear in the book?
00:32:47
Jordyn Carrido
Nope.
00:32:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. Okay.
00:32:48
Jordyn Carrido
Hermes is not in the book. He's mentioned um in the context of talking about Luke and Luke's trauma and why Luke thinks the way he does. But Hermes does not appear.
00:32:59
Jordyn Carrido
the way that they get to um the Lotus Hotel is an accident. In both the film and the show, it's set as like, you're supposed to go here.
00:33:10
Jordyn Carrido
Versus in the book, they just happen to find it when they're when the animals escape the the trailer in Las Vegas. So that is also a new thing. And learning about Luke's mom doesn't happen in this book. I don't even know if it happens in book two. I think it might not even be till book three that we learn about Luke's mom and what happened to her.
00:33:31
Jordyn Carrido
um And that again is to serve mostly as like understanding for the audience of why Luke is doing what he's doing.
00:33:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:33:39
Jordyn Carrido
So, but to have that conversation with Hermes and him talking about, you know, being a parent is hard, like, you know, and I talked to your dad, Percy, and, you know, asked him, like, what I should do.
00:33:50
Jordyn Carrido
um It worked well in the context of the show and them focusing on, you know, how the gods treat each other and how they've treated their children in the past and how, you know,
00:34:02
Jordyn Carrido
trying to be better and, you know, move forward in the right direction. um it hit well, um but it it is new to the storyline in the show than in the book.
00:34:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. Did you like it? did you like so Did you like having that extra Hermes and did you like having Lin-Manuel Miranda?
00:34:25
Jordyn Carrido
You know, I i was excited at first. Like, I'm a fan of Hamilton. I'm a fan of, you know, stuff that Lin-Manuel does. i just remember seeing, like, a bunch of people on Twitter saying that, like, Hermes was supposed to have a ton of kids.
00:34:38
Jordyn Carrido
And Lin-Manuel Miranda does not give off the vibe of being, like, a womanizer, like, player in that way. and I was like...
00:34:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Sure.
00:34:47
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, I kind of I kind of feel that but I think like, he's the trickster God a little bit. He's, you know, the God of thieves and travelers and, you know, jack of all trades master of none.
00:34:58
Jordyn Carrido
And so I did kind of get that like, mischievous vibe from him a little bit.
00:35:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:35:03
Jordyn Carrido
And so I'm excited to see in future episodes. storylines and future books and future seasons of the show when he does have more screen time and you do get to interact with him more how he's gonna take on those scenes so overall like I don't know if I would have picked him myself if I had been in the casting director's chair but I'm optimistic about how it's gonna go in the future
00:35:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:35:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah i'm excited i'm and i'm excited to revisit the later books because i um i know i think sea of monsters i i really remember that one a lot more than the past books and now i'm wondering i think i might have only read three because i can't remember like three is the maze right
00:35:48
Jordyn Carrido
No, that's book four.
00:35:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh, okay. So then i've Okay, what happens in book three?
00:35:51
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, Battle of the Labrador book four. four. That is Atlas and the Hunters of Artemis. We meet Bianca and
00:36:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ok Okay, okay, okay, okay. And then the maze is book four. I think book four might be the last one that I read then. um Before we get into two characters I want to touch on that I didn't include in our list, um Hades is the last on our list.
Overall Faithfulness to the Books
00:36:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Hades is played by Steve Coogan in the movie, which was an a really interesting take on on a Hades. And then in the show, he was played by Jay Duplass.
00:36:27
Jordyn Carrido
Yes. I think both of them suffer for the same reasons. And that when the book describes Hades, Hades, He's in his like 10 foot tall form. He's sitting in his throne.
00:36:42
Jordyn Carrido
He's in like Greek robes and the robes, like as the fabric moves, you see like different faces, like screaming in agony and anguish and they're suffering.
00:36:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
oh
00:36:52
Jordyn Carrido
And it's a really intriguing look that you're like, oh, I would love to see that brought to life. And then in the film, like They say, like oh, the Mick Jagger looks for you.
00:37:02
Jordyn Carrido
he like He looks like a washed up rock star.
00:37:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:37:05
Jordyn Carrido
And then in the show, he's just like in a normal suit, robe thing.
00:37:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Suit.
00:37:11
Jordyn Carrido
um And neither of those versions are scary.
00:37:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
you
00:37:16
Jordyn Carrido
Neither of those versions make me think, like oh, this is the Lord of the Dead. He is somebody to be feared. He is somebody to be respected. Both of them. I'm like, I can't take you seriously. I'm so sorry.
00:37:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, the film tries to remedy that by doing a quick little com comedy um with Grover saying, you know, this is not how I thought you would look. And then he blows up into his, you know, fiery devil appearance and then comes back down after the Mick Jagger line.
00:37:39
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:37:43
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:37:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:37:44
Jordyn Carrido
Which the demon transformation also never happened.
00:37:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But yeah, it's...
00:37:48
Jordyn Carrido
ah Just for any listeners who don't know.
00:37:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Well, and backing it up to the beginning of the film, he he comes and gives a message in the film, which doesn't happen in the book or the show.
00:37:51
Jordyn Carrido
Yes.
00:37:53
Jordyn Carrido
Yes.
00:37:57
Jordyn Carrido
Yes.
00:38:00
Jordyn Carrido
Correct. Yeah. That is part of like them completely changing the plot line of the story for the film. Part of that is Hades coming in and being like, I took your mom.
00:38:11
Jordyn Carrido
I want the lightning bolt or I want the master bolt. ah You need to give it to me. um and there's no Oracle.
00:38:19
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:38:19
Jordyn Carrido
There's no official quest like Chiron, like they sneak out of camp. Like Chiron has no idea that they're going.
00:38:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. ah Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:26
Jordyn Carrido
yeah, they go to Luke and Luke has a PC set up in camp half blood, even though electronics attract monsters, like, okay.
00:38:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I know.
00:38:35
Jordyn Carrido
um And he gives them, he gives them the shoes, which is still good and correct. And he gives them this map saying like, you have to go here, here and here to get Persephone's pearls to get.
00:38:47
Jordyn Carrido
And they just butcher the storyline. Yeah.
00:38:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah yeah um so um one of the characters that i forgot is sally jackson i didn't forget her i just didn't include her but i i kind of feel like we would be remiss not to include percy's mom um so show well let me start with the movie because that is the order that i've been going in um
00:39:00
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:39:03
Jordyn Carrido
yeah
00:39:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
The movie Sally is played by Catherine Keener. And then the show Sally is played by Virginia Cole.
00:39:24
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah. um Both of them feel right in the context of their projects. Like they, yeah, movie Sally feels right with movie Percy and TV show Sally feels right with TV show Percy.
00:39:37
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. Okay.
00:39:40
Jordyn Carrido
um Honestly, the main thing that is different between them is their relationship to Poseidon and their relationship to Gabe, Percy's stepdad.
00:39:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:39:54
Jordyn Carrido
the In the book, Percy doesn't like Gabe. He calls him Smelly Gabe, which is a very 12-year-old thing to say.
00:40:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:40:03
Jordyn Carrido
So you don't get any of that in the movie because he's 16. So a 16-year-old is just not going to call his stepdad Smelly Gabe. And... and Gabe is described as being kind of a loser. He doesn't have a job. He you know sits at home and drinks beer all day and plays poker with his friends.
00:40:23
Jordyn Carrido
But when Sally and Percy interact with him, it's very deferential. It's very like, you well, if we're good, he'll let us borrow the car to go to the cabin on the beach.
00:40:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:40:35
Jordyn Carrido
first it And then in the movie, you also get that, like, Percy, like, just don't make him mad so we can get what we want done. And then in the show, they completely change that.
00:40:46
Jordyn Carrido
And she, Sally, has no problem arguing with him and saying like, well, I'm not going to get your sandwich if you don't do what I want. And so their dynamic is very different. Like he's still a jerk, but he's not.
00:40:59
Jordyn Carrido
it doesn't seem that he's abusive the same way that he's described as being abusive in the book and how he's depicted in the movie.
00:41:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
do you think that takes away from kind of like the sacrifice that she's making for the reason why she's with gabe in the show
00:41:15
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in the show, i don't even think they explain why she's with Gabe. She just is. And that's just how things are.
00:41:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hu
00:41:25
Jordyn Carrido
um But in the movie, they actually do a good job of saying like, you know,
00:41:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:41:30
Jordyn Carrido
he's your mom was sacrificed for you all these years she put up with his nonsense and his abuse for you percy to protect you and in the book they explain that as well and the at the very end of the book that stuck with me because that's the the takes all the way through the end of the book for percy to realize that gabe has been physically abusing his mom while he's away at school
00:41:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:41:55
Jordyn Carrido
And in the movie, it even escalates to Gabe getting physical with Percy. And in the show, none of that happens. And I think that has more to do with the fact that you're depicting 12-year-old kid on screen.
00:42:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
huh
00:42:10
Jordyn Carrido
And so talking about you know familial abuse and spousal abuse and you know child abuse in that venue, i the I think they shied away from that a little bit.
00:42:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:42:23
Jordyn Carrido
you know i know that part of why Percy is so important to a lot of people is because he was somebody who understood what they were going through when they were being abused at home by ah a parent or step-parent.
00:42:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah. yeah.
00:42:35
Jordyn Carrido
And so i was like, well, if Percy can survive that and can be brave and can be good despite of what he's going through, then I can too. And so for them to take that away in the show... was, you know, i think disappointing for a lot of people.
00:42:49
Jordyn Carrido
And then in the movie, they went like really far in the other direction where now Percy and Gabe are getting into a physical altercation and Sally's having to separate them. And I think that's, that might be who knows which came first, the decision to age them up or the decision to include that scene. But I think you can't have one without the other.
00:42:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:43:08
Jordyn Carrido
I don't think that if, They hadn't aged the kids up in that film that we would have gotten that scene. But I think that scene is really important to show the type of person that Sally is and why Percy is who he is, because Sally is the one raising him.
00:43:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Interesting.
00:43:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. um So before we wrap up our first episode on Percy Jackson, um talk to me about your initial thoughts. I know they're not really initial because you have been in this world for so long.
00:43:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But do you think the film and the show were faithful adaptations or bold reimaginings? I know you've already stated some opinions on this.
00:43:49
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:43:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And then go ahead go ahead and give your thoughts on that and then your rating again, please.
00:43:57
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah. um So the film is definitely a bold reimagining. There is very, very little that lines up perfectly with the book. That being said, as a movie, just as a movie, if you're just going to go in blind and not have any idea that it's based off a book,
00:44:13
Jordyn Carrido
it's a solid movie. It's an eight out of 10. The soundtrack is awesome. The acting is pretty good and it is really entertaining. It's, you know, it's like, Oh, cool. You know, who doesn't love stories about the Greek myths?
00:44:25
Jordyn Carrido
Like there's a reason we still know about them today is because they're interesting and fascinating and give us an idea of why humans are the way that we are.
00:44:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:44:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:44:34
Jordyn Carrido
um So eight out of 10 as a movie three out of 10 as an adaptation.
00:44:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:44:39
Jordyn Carrido
It's just, and honestly, that's being generous. Like I could have given it a zero, but I'm trying to be nice. Like it's just really, really tough. um And then the show definitely is a more faithful adaptation.
00:44:51
Jordyn Carrido
um There are still some things that they change, things that are different. between the book and the show. But I think that has more to do with the fact that it's a show and the show is the medium than them trying to just change the story.
00:45:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Ah. Mm-hmm.
00:45:09
Jordyn Carrido
I think when you look at the whole show and you binge it in one sitting,
00:45:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:45:14
Jordyn Carrido
like I did to prep for the podcast, you it's like watching it week to week, I was like, why are they doing this? Like, this has changed and this has changed. Like, what? what Like, I don't understand it.
00:45:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah ah her
00:45:24
Jordyn Carrido
But then watching it all the way through, like, it's a lot easier to see the threads of like, oh You know, you know, not all monsters look like monsters and not all heroes look like heroes. And who do you want to be, Percy?
00:45:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
her
00:45:36
Jordyn Carrido
You can choose. And, you know, Annabeth confronting Hephaestus, who also doesn't show up in the book or the film, you know, and like he Percy's not like that. Percy's better than that.
00:45:46
Jordyn Carrido
I want to save him. I don't want to be like how the gods are. When you take all of those things together from beginning to end of the show, it's a really beautiful story and it makes sense and it fits well.
00:45:59
Jordyn Carrido
And so as an adaptation, I gave it an 8.5 out of 10. And just as a show straight up, 9.5 out of 10. There were some really tough lighting scenes, but we've seen that in...
00:46:12
Jordyn Carrido
Shows and movies for the last like five years, people have been complaining about five plus years, people have been complaining about it.
00:46:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah Yeah.
00:46:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Lighting. Yeah.
00:46:18
Jordyn Carrido
So that's, that's my main nitpick with the show, like construction wise.
00:46:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:46:24
Jordyn Carrido
And so 9.5 as a show, 8.5 as an adaptation. And I'm really, really excited for season two. It comes out in December. They've announced season three. yeah
00:46:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah Yes.
00:46:33
Jordyn Carrido
i'm pumped.
00:46:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Uh-huh. Yes.
00:46:34
Jordyn Carrido
I'm so pumped.
00:46:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I'm excited. um So um thank you for joining me tonight.
00:46:37
Jordyn Carrido
Yeah.
00:46:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Next week, we'll be getting into the key plot points of the film, the book, the film, the show, um and kind of really getting into the adaptation conversation.
00:46:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
right. Thank you, listeners, and we will see you next week.