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19: Ready Player One Part Two: Plot Analysis
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In this episode of Book Watch, we’re diving into the Plot Breakdown of Ready Player One and its movie adaptation. How well does the film follow the book’s fast-paced, high-stakes quest for Halliday's Easter Egg? What changes worked—and which ones missed the mark?
In Part 2, we explore:
- Major plot changes (key challenges) between the book and the movie
- What storylines were streamlined or cut entirely
- How the adaptation handled the Oasis design, the quest for the keys, and a certain botched character.
Join hosts Chris, Jordyn, and Sarah-Daye as they break down what worked, what didn’t, and whether this adaptation does the book justice.
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Transcript
Introduction and Topic Overview
00:00:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hello listeners and welcome back to another episode of Bookwatch. We are diving into part two of Ready Player One um and we'll be talking about the key plot points.
00:00:14
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So we're going to go ahead and get right. Well, first of all, I am joined once again um by Jordan. Hello, Jordan.
00:00:23
Jordyn
Hey.
00:00:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And Chris. Hi, Chris. Welcome back.
00:00:26
Chris
Hello, I've got my coins ready. Let's go. Ready player one.
Halliday's Easter Egg Challenge: Book vs. Film
00:00:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah Okay, so the beginning of both the book and the film opens up with um introducing Halliday's challenge and how this is a big Easter egg hunt in the Oasis and the winner will inherit his fortune and control over the system.
00:00:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
How do you feel about how the movie kind of introduced this information? Because the book was, you know, the fish first few chapters kind of walks us through information.
00:01:02
Chris
I thought they were pretty faithful.
00:01:02
Jordyn
yeah they're Yeah, you kind of have to just info dump just to get everybody on the same playing field at the beginning.
00:01:03
Chris
I think that the um the ah exposition of him just explaining what's happening is really close in a lot of ways. And so I think they did a good job with ah adapting that.
Dystopian Themes and Real-World Parallels
00:01:20
Jordyn
So having it be like Wade narrating for us and like explaining the history of the world and how we got here, like
00:01:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
and Yeah.
00:01:29
Jordyn
it did it It served its purpose. Like there was, I don't know what.
00:01:32
Chris
little depressing, you know, listening to him talk about the world they live in.
00:01:34
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:01:36
Chris
I'm like, oh man, that's pretty close to reality. I mean, that's a sucky world they live
00:01:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:01:38
Jordyn
ah That's really terrible. That's really terrible. Sure would be a crazy if something like that were to happen here.
00:01:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
me
00:01:45
Chris
He talks about the wars and stuff that are coming up. and i'm like, oh man, that's like, that that could happen tomorrow. I mean, the bandwidth wars and the energy shortages.
00:01:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:01:54
Chris
And oh man, that that's so real. Yeah.
00:01:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It is. It is pretty scary. I mean, and we talked in the last episode about how this is only 20 years from now. And so it's like, that yeah, I mean, if all we need is the virtual reality and like we could be on our way to weights reality.
00:02:03
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:02:10
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:02:12
Chris
Exactly. Just need somebody to you know come up with that. Come on, guys. Somebody somebody give us this ah this virtual reality because because this doesn't cut it.
00:02:20
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:02:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah Yeah, no, I think the only one I've ever had is the one that like we you slip your phone into.
Virtual Reality: Yesterday and Today
00:02:27
Chris
Yeah, the original attempt at you know having something cheap people could use to get on that.
00:02:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yes
00:02:33
Chris
i've I've got a meta um quest too, and I've used it a handful of times for a few games, but it's definitely not something I can wear on my face for very long without feeling it getting sweaty and my eyes starting to hurt or my, you know feeling kind of sick to my stomach after a while, little seasick.
00:02:48
Chris
So I think they've done more with improving them over since then. ah The Apple one is supposed to be amazing and, ah but just way overpriced. And even some of the newer meta ones are good, but, but the ones that are,
00:02:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
As is Apple as their m MO.
00:03:01
Jordyn
Classic. Yeah.
00:03:02
Chris
more like the game, the ones that are actually tied into your computer, your big old gaming computer that can be more like just glasses and don't have to have the whole computer in them um ah are definitely the way that you can get more close to what they're doing in the film here.
00:03:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:03:16
Jordyn
yeah
00:03:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So, um yeah, there's three Easter eggs they had to find.
The Copper Key: Plot Simplifications
00:03:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
There's three keys, and there's hints along the way. The first one is the copper key, and um we talked last episode how everything has changed, basically, um even though you still have the three clues.
00:03:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So we start off with the copper key in the book. It is found by... solving the riddles and finding the joust game um and exploring that dungeon which is where he first meets artemis and then in the film it's the race and he figures out he just has to drive backwards
Narrative Choices in Game Elements
00:03:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
it's fine everything is fine so what are your thoughts on the change
00:04:06
Jordyn
I think it makes sense because like the the dungeon being on the planet that hosts like the high schools, like if you wanted to like age everything up a little bit and take away that school element and those scenes of him like sitting in class and ah you know like we said info dumping the exposition for us you have to have something else to take its place and you know car race is as good as anything else um and so if you're not because it's it's so tied together in the book like where the key is on the planet with him being in school like it is set up specifically for like a student to be able to find it and so if they i guess maybe they wanted to expand the world and make it more like
00:04:50
Jordyn
Literally anybody could figure it out and could find it. um I don't remember exactly what they said the explanation was or how they figured out that it was something to do with this race.
00:05:01
Jordyn
But whatever it was, I feel like it was kind of weak because ah i don't like I don't remember.
00:05:05
Chris
Yeah, that was just some random person found it.
00:05:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I think wasn't it just ah a portal opened up and it took you to this race?
00:05:10
Chris
That could be, but I think it was just some random person found that this was the race that got you there.
00:05:15
Jordyn
Yeah. So it just like, it was just weak sauce, like, oh yeah, we have to do the race, but they didn't really do a good job of explaining it.
00:05:19
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Very.
00:05:21
Jordyn
And so I think that kind of like discredits Halliday a little bit where like he really, we see throughout, especially the book through every level there, there's so much thought behind it and so much intentionality of like, this is the challenge and this is why, and this is how it ties in and And they flow and they make sense knowing Halliday and everything that he really loved throughout his life.
00:05:42
Jordyn
And so, like, honestly, like, the race itself is fun and it's entertaining and it's like, well, what's going happen? But, like, it was really disappointing because there it didn't seem like there was that same level of intentionality behind it.
00:05:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm. And, like, we we talked before that this is an action movie, so The Race makes sense as an action movie sequence, but... Like you're saying it took away the intent intentionality of it, but it also took away like the smarts like everybody is competing in this race and it just takes away what you need to know in order to get the first key.
00:06:13
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:06:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And it's just like, oh, ah he he talks about going backwards in time. So I'm going to go backwards in the race. And it's just so convenient. Yeah. And silly. And then it's like nobody saw him go backwards.
00:06:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Only Artemis saw him like is this not being recorded? Are people not watching this and saw him not go like it just seems too convenient. And I just think they could have done a better job. Like it doesn't have to be.
00:06:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Exactly what happens like with the school and everything, but he still could have found a joust game and he still still could have met Artemis in that way because I just love that first meeting so much.
00:06:56
Jordyn
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:06:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And I think it just, it takes away from the relationship. It takes away from the accomplishments of them figuring out this, um, riddle it. And then like H figuring it out because,
00:07:07
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:07:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
he knows wade and then um daito and shoto believing the irock forum and finding it because of that and becoming the high five and so yeah i just did not did not love um again watching it um again recently like it's it's fine it's fun it's an action movie but um yes i have feelings
00:07:33
Chris
It lets you play with the car a little bit, and that's one of things you would probably would have missed if you didn't have that race. You would have lost the um the all of the cars and stuff that were fun little references to things.
00:07:43
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:07:44
Chris
um But yeah, i would have loved to have seen the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Tomb of Horrors be part of the story, but I wonder somewhat if that was a part of the problem, too, with ah getting the rights from Hasbro to use the referenceence all those references and all the information from that sort of thing could have been really difficult to get because they're so stingy with that stuff.
00:08:02
Jordyn
That's true.
00:08:06
Chris
Some of it's become open source, but some of it they they really hold on tight too.
00:08:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I get it.
00:08:10
Jordyn
Yeah, I didn't think about that.
00:08:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
know
00:08:12
Jordyn
That's a valid that's a valid thought. and just going back to the cars really quick, I was kind of upset that Artemis wasn't on like a Tron bike. That might just be because I've been listening to Bingers Assemble and they're recovering Tron.
00:08:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:08:24
Jordyn
But I was like, where's the light cycle? Like that would have been such a cool, a cooler thing to have her be riding.
00:08:27
Chris
That would
00:08:30
Jordyn
Cause like I, I'm, you know, I'm young, younger. So I didn't understand the reference of whatever bike she was on.
00:08:37
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I didn't either.
00:08:37
Jordyn
um Like, so like that could have been something that like everybody can have. Like, Oh, look at that. Like I get it. Like, So if you're going to do it, like do it as cool as possible, I guess.
00:08:49
Chris
That's true.
00:08:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Again, it's fine for what it is for the film, but um and going back to this really should have been a TV show and maybe one day we'll get it, but I just think they they could have done this.
00:09:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
They could have been a little bit more true to the books with these challenges.
00:09:09
Chris
A bike is also a reference from a 1988 anime, so you probably wouldn't have known it even if you did know that one.
00:09:16
Jordyn
Yeah, that's
00:09:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:09:18
Chris
It was more of an obscure reference.
00:09:21
Jordyn
Okay, perfect. I don't feel bad anymore.
00:09:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Alright,
Jade Key Differences and The Shining Sequence
00:09:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
next up we have the Jade Key, which in the book is gained by solving puzzled puzzles tied to Blade Runner, Black Tiger, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And then in the movie, it's hidden inside the Shining recreation um with a secret like zombie dancing haunted room, um which has to deal with Kira is her name?
00:09:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Kira?
00:09:57
Jordyn
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:58
Chris
Right, Kira.
00:09:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:10:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. Okay. So, um and then when when does he do, oh, no, no, no. When does the react, the re, what's the word? Reenacting of Ferris Bueller.
00:10:15
Chris
That's a part of the copper key. It's ah it's the... um ah the gate. So the the key is the first part and then there's always a gate that goes with that. And when he got to the gate, he had to ah do the war game simulation.
00:10:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:10:28
Chris
um
00:10:28
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
00:10:29
Chris
And I watched war games recently because I had never seen it before. And that that is actually a great movie. If you, anybody's, especially for hackers or anybody, if everybody considers themselves techie, it's very fun with old fashioned tech and stuff.
00:10:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I haven't seen it. No.
00:10:37
Jordyn
Me either. That's
00:10:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Fun.
00:10:42
Chris
um Okay.
00:10:42
Jordyn
cool.
00:10:42
Chris
What about the other references there? Are you, you guys are Blade Runner probably have seen
00:10:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I haven't seen Blade Runner in a very long time.
00:10:48
Chris
That one was very recent for me to know.
00:10:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So um when they were talking about the unicorn or horse, unicorn. Wasn't that like a paper?
00:10:56
Chris
oh
00:10:56
Jordyn
Yeah, I think it was the unicorn.
00:10:57
Chris
For Blade, yeah.
00:10:58
Jordyn
Yeah, the unicorn.
00:10:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. um Like that kind of rings a bell, but not really. um I've definitely seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
00:11:05
Chris
but Yeah.
00:11:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And I think like we, I think our generation have kind of grown up with those references.
00:11:06
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:11:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So I, I don't know.
00:11:10
Chris
Right, that one's definitely ah the the biggest one I knew.
00:11:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
00:11:12
Chris
Blade Runner, I hadn't seen it growing up like I should have probably, um but I watched it relatively recently and it was it was good. and Harrison Ford um and the whole cyberpunk world.
00:11:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
you
00:11:24
Chris
ah Black Tiger, I've never played that game. So I was, I kind of been looking some of these references like, have I ever played that? Ever done that? ah Whereas, and The Shining I've never seen. So it was all ah all kind of just the first time I'd been in that world either. so
00:11:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
the shining I haven't seen but I know it um I know references enough like the twin girls um although the woman in the bathtub I don't know I did not I don't know if that's actually in the shining or not i didn't recognize that um I don't know if she turns into that like old creepy zombie lady either but um
00:11:42
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:11:42
Chris
It's pretty in this night, guys. Yeah.
00:11:53
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:12:00
Jordyn
Yeah. Maybe it's from another.
00:12:01
Chris
There are no zombies in the Shining is what they made the the reference in the show. So it was more of some sort of reference to the zombie dance, I think.
00:12:06
Jordyn
yeah
00:12:09
Chris
That was what they were supposed to be showing us.
00:12:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
00:12:10
Jordyn
Yeah, I was gonna say maybe it's from another Stephen King novel, maybe.
00:12:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
00:12:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Maybe.
00:12:13
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:12:14
Jordyn
i don't know. Yeah, I have I all most of these references are going over my head. I was born in 1998. So most of these things I'm like, don't know. I just if I if I have caught it from my parents that I've caught it.
00:12:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
00:12:26
Jordyn
And if not, then sure over my head. um
00:12:29
Chris
I gave my dad ah some trouble or i not trouble, but I i gave him a hard time of the other day saying you failed me on my 80s movie education. I'm watching this and I have to go back and like rewatch a ton of stuff that I yeah but i should have known from you showing me 80s movies.
00:12:43
Chris
We had so many VHSs. Where were all these?
00:12:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
ah
00:12:45
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:12:47
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um I thought the Shining sequence was fun. um Like, I don't mind missing – like, this this change didn't bother me as much as the first one did, I guess I we should say.
00:13:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It was a really fun sequence.
00:13:01
Jordyn
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I don't like that they all were together and then split up. um Again, that's that's a change from the ah but the book.
00:13:09
Chris
Never split the party.
00:13:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, and like, again, Daito and Shoto were such a big part of this scene, but for what the movie was trying to do and say and be, it was a fun, like, H getting separated and going through his whole horror sequence.
00:13:12
Jordyn
no
00:13:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Again, comemi ah comedic relief. Yes.
00:13:29
Chris
And as the person that doesn't watch horror films he talks about and how he was not into that, it made was a good ah point of view character for those of us who don't watch horror films to go through The Shining and experience that with him.
00:13:35
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:13:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. Yes.
00:13:40
Jordyn
Yeah. I really identified with H in that moment because I am not a horror film person at all.
00:13:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Me neither.
00:13:47
Jordyn
So I was like, however age is reacting, that's probably how I would be reacting in that I'm just freaking out the whole time.
00:13:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hey
00:13:53
Chris
We're going to have our time covering horror films since all of us are not horror film people.
00:13:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I know. All the Stephen King.
00:13:59
Jordyn
Well, I'll just watch him at like 10 a.m.
00:14:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:14:02
Chris
whatll we'll do a we'll We'll do a live watch of those ones at 10 a.m.
00:14:03
Jordyn
in broad daylight.
00:14:05
Chris
We'll all watch it together.
00:14:05
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:14:06
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yes Perfect. Perfect.
00:14:07
Jordyn
yeah That way we can virtually hold hands while we all we're terrified.
00:14:07
Chris
There we go. Yeah, exactly.
00:14:11
Jordyn
yeah I thought it was interesting how the movie really like played up the like failed romance between Halliday and Kira. Because like in the book, it's like mentioned, but like offhand.
00:14:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:14:23
Jordyn
like the they None of the gates refer to her.
00:14:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:14:27
Jordyn
I think it's like the final password and the final gate.
00:14:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:14:30
Jordyn
is her D&D character's name. And that's basically it. Like, there's no, like, major connection where Halliday has been, like, stewing on this lost love for his whole life.
00:14:41
Jordyn
And that's his biggest regret of his life is he never got, was brave enough to be with Kira.
00:14:44
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yep.
00:14:45
Jordyn
Like, it pays off in the movie in the moment with Wade and Samantha at the very end in real life. We're like, I'm not going to waste my life and I'm not going to throw away my chance, whatever.
00:14:55
Jordyn
um
00:14:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:14:57
Jordyn
But it was, like, weird to... like hyper focus on that it gave me like weird Snape vibes where like you gotta move on brother like we can't just keep hyper fixating on this one woman that you had a crush on when you were a teenager like we've gotta we gotta move on we gotta to live our life let's just keep going you know and he it's explicitly says in the book like he wasn't weird like he moved on like in the sense that like he wasn't continuing to pursue her but like having that weird fixation to create a whole challenge based around her like
00:15:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:15:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:15:31
Jordyn
for the movie to make that choice. I was like, that's odd and interesting. And I don't think I love it that much, especially when you match it with a horror film.
00:15:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-mm.
00:15:40
Jordyn
Like, okay.
00:15:42
Chris
Now, the second book does kind of relapse that a little bit, and you'll find that he did obsess the whole time about her and stuff like that, but um a little bit.
00:15:46
Jordyn
Okay.
00:15:48
Jordyn
Oh, my bad.
00:15:51
Chris
Well, at yeah and and ah that might have been something.
00:15:52
Jordyn
Okay.
00:15:53
Chris
I don't think he'd written the second book, or it might been have been just coming out around the time, and so it may have been something in his mind that as he was doing the adaptation, he put that in there in order to get that feel for the story, but and and Wade ruins his relationship right in the beginning of the second book, too, so, you know.
00:15:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-mm.
00:15:57
Jordyn
Okay.
00:16:03
Jordyn
Got you.
00:16:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:16:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, and I think that's why I didn't keep reading.
00:16:10
Jordyn
Nice.
00:16:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And, like, maybe they reconcile towards the end, but I think I was, like, so pissed at the beginning of the second book, and I'm like, wait, I'm not going to – I just want my perfect little ending from the end of Ready Player One. I don't want to and don't want to know anymore, so I'm going to put this down.
00:16:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I might revisit it one day, but i just – I love Ready Player One so much, and um like isn' there's, like, a big fight or something at the beginning. yeah just Anyway, we don't need to talk about it.
00:16:36
Chris
Well, I'll put it out there that I actually really like the second book. I know a lot of people ah dislike it, but I think that it does tell a really good, complete story and it gets into some more ah AI storylines that really are are pretty relevant to the modern time a little more so.
00:16:48
Jordyn
Okay.
00:16:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:16:51
Chris
And I think the story they tell actually is really well done with the who you end up seeing as the perspective character in the end and things like that. But it's not for everybody. It definitely changed some of the characters a little bit in a way that... you that ah kind of ruined the first book on for some people, or ruined the characters from the first book.
00:17:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
See, I don't love that.
00:17:08
Chris
So i yeah I enjoy it as a complete story if you're just reading it all the way through.
00:17:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:17:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Well.
00:17:16
Chris
Back to the Jade Key, or the Crystal Key. I
The Jade Key and the Extra Life Token
00:17:20
Chris
think we got everything went through the Jade Key for the most part. ah Any other thoughts on the puzzle in the book or the movie?
00:17:24
Jordyn
you
00:17:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I don't really remember what this Jade key is in the book.
00:17:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:36
Chris
That was the, so the way they went about that the book is he ah found the Black Tiger game um in the arcade, I believe, or think it was in it.
00:17:48
Chris
Oh, in Holiday's ah childhood bedroom, I think. No, that was the war games. Yeah, it's there's a lot of ah things that happen.
00:17:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
That's why there's so much that happens in the book. It's hard to keep it all um because I don't know if I wrote this in the – I didn't add this, but the the extra life token um is inside Halliday's childhood room, right?
00:17:56
Chris
so
00:18:08
Jordyn
No.
00:18:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Isn't there a game
00:18:11
Chris
No, no, that's in his childhood arcade ah that they find, which is...
00:18:12
Jordyn
no
00:18:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, okay, okay, the arcade. And he plays, he thinks it's going to be a key or or a gate or whatever, um and it ends up just giving him this this token, and he forgets about it.
00:18:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And then in the movie, he gets the spare life, and this is a really important piece later on in both the film and the book. um
00:18:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
The curator gives it to him in the movie. It's just like... um
00:18:39
Chris
I think that the arcade and the like getting off track and finding that was a much better way to have that experience.
00:18:43
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. It means something.
00:18:44
Chris
he
00:18:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It's not just like a curator be like, here you go.
00:18:45
Chris
He had to do something.
00:18:46
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:18:48
Chris
We found something extra.
00:18:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
and it's just.
00:18:49
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:18:49
Chris
Yeah, that James, how they put in the game that he didn't realize was there.
00:18:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:18:54
Chris
oh
00:18:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And again, like I get that it's a movie and like it is, like I said, it comes into play. Like you need that extra life later on because it they wipe everybody out and he that's the way he survives.
00:19:02
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:19:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But it just felt so cheap to just – he was just given it. Like he didn't earn it.
00:19:14
Chris
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:14
Jordyn
yeah
00:19:14
Sarah-Daye McDougall
He was given it and I just don't like that.
00:19:16
Jordyn
Yeah. You said it earlier, Sarah Day, like it takes away and from the characters and showing like how smart they are and how dedicated they have been to Halliday in the 80s and all of these references.
00:19:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:19:29
Jordyn
Like Wade explains like this game I've spent this many days, weeks, months playing and practicing and I took this much time to learn about it and the history. And like he just has all this information in his little grail diary and and it's in his brain.
00:19:43
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yep.
00:19:45
Jordyn
He knows all of these things. And so like for the curator, just be like, there you go, dude.
00:19:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:19:50
Jordyn
Like it denies like that power of the character to be like, I own my stuff. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm doing. I'm every step of the way I'm earning it versus being it just being given to him.
00:20:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:20:04
Jordyn
And that like, I agree with you.
00:20:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah here
00:20:06
Jordyn
That's kind of disappointing that that Wade is. the character. like He didn't get that triumph moment. And even like that's that like necessary setback moment of like, oh, I thought this was it, but I was wrong.
00:20:13
Chris
Right.
00:20:18
Jordyn
So now how do I redirect myself and know what's next to to try and to think about? lake I think that would have been a good moment to have to show like some level of failure, especially because the timeline gets so squished.
00:20:32
Jordyn
And so instead of it being over the course of months, it's now a matter of days that everything is happening.
00:20:37
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:20:38
Jordyn
Like, so to show that would have been a good way to show the struggle and like how everything has been earned by these characters instead of here you go.
00:20:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:20:48
Jordyn
It's happening super fast. They're they're so like OP. They're so smart. They can just figure it out super quickly and stuff is handed to them. So that kind of sucked a little bit.
00:20:55
Chris
Yeah. So I've worked out the timeline here of what we're missing from the second key. um It was the wrapper that the um first key came in or something like that was the origami ah unicorn you were talking about for Blade Runner.
00:21:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:21:11
Chris
The Blade Runner piece led you to the Zork game, I believe, or something like that, where the Captain Crunch Whistle is important.
00:21:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh yes.
00:21:19
Chris
ah the hacker whistle, which is a really cool ah piece of history. If anybody wants to look it up, Cap'n Crunch whistles could make long distance calls with the phone company phones that used a set of tones to actually control whether you had the authorization to do those things. So people were hacking using these whistles on the old phones, but so that's a cool part of history. um And then, yeah, Zorik led to um the final key um being that game yeah had to play, which got to the robot, the,
00:21:49
Chris
um black tiger.
00:21:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Got it. um And I did want to kind of jump around before we get to the last key because a lot kind of happens. um But let's back it up a little bit and talk about Parzival's and Artemis' relationship and the differences between um how they met and how their bond forms and how they met in real life.
00:22:11
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Because it's mostly online in the book and they meet a lot sooner in the movie than they do in the book. um she's still pretty much adamant about not meeting and like no you don't actually love me um like she is in the book um but again it's just I feel like movies and this is why i don't like a lot of books to be adapted into films uh because there's just not a lot of time um and their relationship just needed more time
00:22:39
Chris
You might be on the wrong podcast.
00:22:45
Chris
Yeah, I agree.
00:22:46
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:22:46
Chris
um They definitely, i mean, they are, you know, the first key is where they meet and that, you know, they, they, the timeline's about the same with kind of the way they go about that key wise.
00:22:57
Chris
But yeah, I think her story being kind of altered to be the more, she's part of this rebellion that's fighting back against the, the debt ah snakes and of ah IOI taking people into the, um,
00:23:14
Chris
They call that the indentured servitude the ah system was very much a change.
00:23:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:23:19
Chris
We do see it happen in the book, but it's Wade going in in order to specifically make this change. Whereas um in the a movie, she her father died i'm one of the in one of the indentured servitude things, which gives her the motivation to fight back.
00:23:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
who
00:23:34
Chris
So. I think that her story being as different as it is made for her character also acting differently towards him in order to protect herself from ah being discovered as who she is and all that. so um But their relationship specifically and ah felt pretty close to me as far as she says, no, i don't want you don't love me, and I'm going to focus on my goals here one way the other, finishing this competition winning.
00:23:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm
00:24:02
Jordyn
Yeah, I understand like in the book and the movie why she doesn't want to get close to him because they're they're competing. She doesn't think that they have the same like goals in winning. Like her goal in winning is like they talk about like in the movie it's like you know, free the indentured servants and like put an end to that system and stuff like that. And then in the book, it's like, you know, feeding the hungry and like, you know, doing good for the world versus Wade is like, I want to get on a ship and get out of here.
00:24:30
Jordyn
Like this world sucks. And so like, I want to like put my money towards leaving it, not fixing it. And so like, I understand why she doesn't want to like join him in that way because they their values don't align.
00:24:46
Jordyn
But I think, again, with the timeline being changed, like the in the book, they spend months like building their relationship and becoming close friends.
00:24:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:24:57
Jordyn
And so then it hurts a lot more when she like rejects him and he asks like, are you breaking up with me? And she's like, we were never together, dude. And it's like, but you kind of were because you spent hours a day with each other spending time together, watching movies, watching shows like.
00:25:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:25:13
Jordyn
studying the the clue and and doing all of that together versus in the movie she's like you don't know me like you can't love me because you don't know me and i'm like yeah you've known each other for literally like three days so yeah she's she's right she's she's more valid and so his like
00:25:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:25:30
Jordyn
heartbreak and him being upset doesn't hit as deeply in the movie because you're like yeah it's been three days like you need to relax like you don't actually love her like I'm on her side but in the book it's like no he does love her they have spent that time together like she could love him too but I still understand why she doesn't want to be with him
00:25:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:25:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Well, and then the ah book, it's also a lot of insecurity on her part.
00:25:55
Chris
And she has proper internet boundaries, you know, she's not having full crushes on people she just met on the internet, you know
00:25:58
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:26:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:26:01
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:26:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I mean, they talk about it all the time.
00:26:02
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:26:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Like, you could be, like, ah like a 60-year-old man and her, you know, in a basement.
00:26:06
Chris
500-pound man sitting in a basement named Chuck.
00:26:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:26:09
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:26:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So, yeah. So, I mean, they do make good points. But, yeah, they the timeline is so rushed in the film. And, um again, like, I would love to see this be a show one day where we can actually see their relationship develop.
00:26:27
Chris
That'd be cool. All right.
Infiltrating IOI: Book vs. Film
00:26:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So the in infiltration of IOI. um In the book, Wade kind of plans it all out. And this is like months after he goes into this depressive state after Artemis kind of turns him down. he even alienates h And he just...
00:26:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Like you were saying doesn't leave the apartment for like months and has to take the vitamin D and everything. And then he comes up with this plan to infiltrate IOI. Whereas in the movie, they capture Artemis and she is taken to IOI and then they infiltrate IOI to save her.
00:27:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Again, much more action movie-esque than the book. um I love how he would how we find out that he had planned this all out in the book. So another disappointing change on my part, but I get why they made the decision for the film.
00:27:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
it's It's an action film and there's not a lot of time. But how what do you guys think of seeing IOI and the way these both played out?
00:27:38
Chris
Thank
00:27:40
Jordyn
Yeah, I think it still goes back to that, like not letting him be as smart as he actually is. Like he's so incredibly intelligent. And for him to like think of that plan and be able to hack into these like super well-protected systems to be able to, you know, hack into IOI and create debt for himself and then get back in there and steal their data.
00:27:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:28:03
Jordyn
And like it's incredibly intelligent for him to plan it all out and be able to execute the plan. And it just like really like diminishes his character for it to A, be taken away from him and he's not involved in that situation at all.
00:28:19
Jordyn
And for it to be like, oh, no, she got captured. Like it was an accident. We weren't we like we're pivoting and having to react to it instead of it being plotted So, yeah.
00:28:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:28:28
Jordyn
so yeah
00:28:32
Chris
Yeah, I agree entirely. It definitely diminishes his ability to show that he actually is smart and not just somebody can memorize a lot of stuff. um you know Some of the hacking he was doing was buying you know credentials online on the dark web that only you know rich Gunthers can get to.
00:28:49
Chris
But he also knew where to find those things and knew kind of how to utilize them once he had them. and Not everybody can utilize a system of hacking to make that happen. So he spent a lot of time.
00:28:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It's almost street smarts plus intelligence.
00:28:58
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:29:00
Chris
Right. And I feel like we see some of that too with his, like how his character grew up living, like getting these fixing laptops, fixing ah Oasis headsets and stuff.
00:29:01
Jordyn
yeah
00:29:10
Chris
And so he's got this technology smarts that he's able to, we see him carry through in the book a lot. Whereas in the movie, he's just ah happens to see a password on a, on the thing where he's having that conversation with Sorrento and is able to utilize that to recreate so um the, the,
00:29:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:29:29
Chris
illusion for i mean and that is a fun moment where they you know hack into his immersion uh system and hijack his uh exit to make him think he's in the real world that's i could only couldn't imagine you know feeling like you know you still are wearing this mask but you think you're in the real world is it's it's funny to think about um but i think it works both ways but rush
00:29:46
Jordyn
But even even that, though, I think that was H that did that, right? h like, programmed that.
00:29:53
Chris
um He created everything, yeah, because he's got the building skills inside the Oasis, which was fine to give him something, some more agency, is something to do.
00:29:55
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:29:58
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:30:01
Chris
But, yeah, it was definitely different in the way that I'm not sure if I loved it ah as much.
00:30:01
Jordyn
yeah
00:30:08
Jordyn
I think it worked within like with all of the other changes that were made for the movie. It worked and it made sense and it flowed really well. But again, like comparing it to the source material, it's weird to have all these changes be made. And like, that's not the character is going to be inherently different because you're not giving him these opportunities to show who he is and what he's capable of.
00:30:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:30:32
Jordyn
And all of them to Artemis age, like everybody.
00:30:35
Chris
And again, the emotion that would have been there if we'd had this moment of him getting drug out of his house as a criminal, basically, because he created this persona for himself. You didn't tell us that he planned this thing. We just saw him get drug into custody by IOI in the film would have been just like,
00:30:51
Chris
oh my goodness, what is happening right now? yeah um And then seeing that play out on film of his smarts happening right in front of us ah while we think he's being tortured, basically, and put into ah slavery for the IOI would have been fun and emotional.
00:30:54
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:31:06
Jordyn
Yeah. That would have been really cool to have to like have that suspense and that emotional like connection for the audience to be like, oh my God, like we're so worried about him. Like what's going to happen next? And then he's like, don't worry, I've got it all under control.
00:31:18
Jordyn
Like that would have been like, whoa, like it would have been it would have been super cool to experience that.
00:31:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:31:23
Chris
I'm playing chess while they're playing checkers.
00:31:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
See, this could be season one finale cliffhanger is him getting arrested and being like, what?
00:31:28
Chris
Oh yeah. Yeah. I agree.
00:31:30
Jordyn
Yes. What am I going to do? Okay.
00:31:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
let's kind of combine the third key in the final battle because this is all kind of an entwined. um He gets out of... Okay, so while infiltrating IOI, he finds these documents saying that um Dido has been eliminated and all of the information on Artemis and Shoto and himself, but not a lot of information on H.
00:32:02
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:32:09
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So... he gets out of IOI and contacts them and says, we need to meet. They have all this information on you guys. You need to get out of Dodge. And then that's when,
00:32:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um yeah wait, help me, help me get the timeline here.
00:32:27
Jordyn
That's when Ogden shows up in the virtual chat room, the basement, and he's like, I've been watching you guys.
00:32:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:32:33
Jordyn
I've been, you know, like, seeing what's up.
00:32:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:32:35
Jordyn
Let me help y'all. I'm to send private jets to everybody. You guys come here to my rig so that way you're safe because at this point, like, Daito has been killed in real life by IOI. Like, not just his avatar has been killed, but, like, he's been thrown off of the balcony of his apartment in real life. So now, like...
00:32:51
Jordyn
Wade is trying to warn everybody like your actual real life is in danger right now, not just your avatar. Like you need to escape. So they're all in like public, like internet cafes and like, like Oasis hookups.
00:33:03
Jordyn
Like I think Artemis is like in it literally in the airport.
00:33:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Airport.
00:33:06
Jordyn
Yeah. um And Ogden is like, I've secretly been like spying on you guys for a while. Cause I thought you were, you were good a heirs to holidays, fortune and throne and whatnot.
00:33:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:33:17
Jordyn
So I'll send private jets. We'll all meet up at Oregon Rivendell and we'll take it from there.
00:33:25
Chris
Yeah, um and there was a couple of betrayals there, too, because he had to, you know, he saw the file for Artemis, saw her pictures, saw some videos of her.
00:33:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:33:34
Chris
And so she's even now as he's trying to save her life, getting mad at him for you just had to look at the files. You couldn't have left it be. he's I saved your life. What are you talking about?
00:33:45
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:33:45
Chris
And then Agamorou portraying them by being able to get into their chat room was another breach of confidence all of a sudden that they're like, ah can we trust anybody?
00:33:46
Jordyn
I thought that was a little silly.
00:33:54
Chris
So that was interesting.
00:33:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I think it's still kind of in character for her because like I said earlier that she is very um insecure about her appearance.
00:34:01
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:34:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And so now she knows that Wade knows what she looks like. And though I think she's freaking out inside because think she does love Wade. um But she thinks he loves the idea of her and her her avatar, which she is not her true self.
00:34:10
Jordyn
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So she's still very insecure. And I think that insecurity is just coming out in anger. um in that particular scene. But I would have loved to see that anticipation. So um not only is he anticipating meeting Artemis in real life, even though he knows what she looks like, he's anticipating meeting H in this moment.
00:34:37
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And he doesn't know anything about H. So we are the van comes up and he's introduced to this female and he gets over it.
00:34:39
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:34:40
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:34:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And like's it's a really nice moment between the two of them. And then we get the anticipation of him meeting Artemis and the whole she doesn't want to meet you until afterwards.
00:34:52
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:34:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So all of that is just it's just really great character development. It's a really great climax. Sort of to to what we've... ah This journey that we've been on so far with their relationship. both of Both of these relationships.
00:35:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Parsifal and H and Artemis and Parsifal. That, again, like in the movie, we've already met them in real life. We've already gotten a key together.
00:35:21
Jordyn
Mm-hmm. All
00:35:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:35:23
Chris
Right.
00:35:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So it's just... um Very different. And I just I really like the journey of these relationships and then how how we see them play out in the books.
Character Development Through Real-Life Meetings
00:35:34
Chris
Yeah. And the mountains of Oregon, I can attest as someone who lives here, do look like Rivendale sometimes.
00:35:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Hmm.
00:35:41
Chris
Not where I live. I'm in the high desert where we're dry. But just just a couple hours to the to the either side, really. Any way you go, you'll you'll find Rivendale up in the mountains.
00:35:52
Jordyn
Nice. Yeah.
00:35:54
Jordyn
yeah
00:35:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
So getting the crystal key. um yeah They're both at Castle Anorak in and book and film.
00:36:06
Sarah-Daye McDougall
However, the book is after playing Tempest. And adventure and then reenacting Monty Python, whereas in the movie, there is a little TV in an ice ring um and they're the IOI agents are in line playing it and they're trying to figure out.
00:36:27
Chris
Right.
00:36:28
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And then, oh, also, i don't think we've mentioned this. the little team of IOI holiday experts were an addition to the film. And I thought they were, they were a pretty fun addition, but yes.
00:36:38
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:36:39
Chris
Seeing some of them was fun, yeah.
00:36:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And they're kind of, um, you know, in the earpieces of the people playing the games and and figuring out and, and feeding how, um, feeding
00:36:41
Jordyn
yeah
00:36:52
Chris
Info and whatever, and even, ah yeah.
00:36:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Sorrento. Yes. Feeding info to Sorrento. Um, And then the final battle comes into play um because they need to take down the ah shield.
00:37:14
Chris
Orb of Azabox.
00:37:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, that IOI has erected around Castle Anorak in order for anybody else to compete for this key because they are kind of click click claiming dibs on it and not letting any other Gunther's come in.
00:37:16
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:37:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So it's a big differences here. um I've already talked about the different games, um but in the final battle, well, that, yeah, Iron Giant replaces the Ultraman, which was probably a rights thing.
00:37:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But any, any other comments on this whole kind of epic conclusion?
00:37:55
Chris
Well, there was the Rush connection of like you know him finding out and in order to get the key itself. it was He had to go to the planet with the Rush ah album that was from like 2112 was their album that twenty one twelve was their album that
00:38:09
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:38:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
concept album.
00:38:10
Chris
had the reference. um And having the guitar that told them that they needed the three was kind of the key to that that the in the book that um the IOI guys did not have.
00:38:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh yeah.
00:38:22
Chris
And so they couldn't get through it. And I thought that was fun because it meant that Holiday always intended for this to be done by a group of people, but a group of friends.
00:38:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:38:31
Chris
And so and he always got by with the help from his friends. So it was good to have that ah connection there. The Schoolhouse Rock, it takes three reference. There was a lot of good references in there.
00:38:42
Chris
And then, yeah, the the fight was a lot of fun with the different character with the different robots and stuff like that in both versions. It didn't really take away from it to have different robots in there.
00:38:53
Chris
It was still fun to have Mechagodzilla and them fighting that.
00:38:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh, yes.
00:38:58
Chris
um The Spider-Man is the Japanese ah Spider-Man robot from the 80s cartoon. That was cool ah to have him have that one in there, ah reference. So, yeah, that was fun.
00:39:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It would be fun to do a ah freeze frame by frame and kind of look at all of the characters that they have.
00:39:15
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:39:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Because they had a Mortal Kombat character was in there.
00:39:17
Chris
In the film, yeah, for sure.
00:39:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:39:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
The Martian was in the beginning of the movie.
00:39:24
Chris
The Leopardon, yeah, is the...
00:39:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
What's his name?
00:39:28
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:39:28
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Something Martian.
00:39:28
Chris
um Marvin Martian at the very beginning as he goes comes out of the thing.
00:39:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Marvin Martian. Yes.
00:39:31
Chris
Yeah, I always see that one. yeah um The adventure being in the movie is a fun one because that is that Easter egg that they do mention it in the book and we see it, but I think it was earlier.
00:39:44
Chris
Either way, um that idea that there was a hidden Easter egg that was the first one that was ever done that was hidden in there without Atari knowing about it was a good reference to pull from for this.
00:39:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. Yeah, that was fun. And it ended up, it was nice that they threw that in there because it wasn't actually the key, um but it was, it was important. it Like it was a whole section in the book about it. So it was nice to pull that in and have that little Easter egg.
00:40:12
Chris
Yeah, and it is a fun one of them to sit on, yeah, and and end on there for the movie, I think, to use that real-life thing there.
00:40:13
Jordyn
I kind of Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:40:20
Jordyn
I kind of wish we had gotten more of like the outside information of like the media talking about it and like the chat rooms and like the news boards like online. Because I think it's really powerful that like Parzival sends out that message and that call to action like attention all gunters like this is what's been happening this is what IOI is capable of we're gonna take them down like that call for aid and having all of them everybody all of the k clans all of the solos like everybody respond to that I think was like a really you powerful moment and so like to have that kind of those little tidbits throughout of like the news anchors talking about stuff and like the headlines that he's reading throughout they're like
00:41:02
Jordyn
to know like how like the scale of how big it is and how just how many people are really invested in this.
00:41:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:41:08
Jordyn
I think that it could have been a more powerful moment if we had had that a little bit more of that background information throughout to where when he sends out the video or the the message to everybody.
00:41:20
Jordyn
And he gets that kind of response. It's like, it's the, you know, Avengers assemble moment where it's like, we're calling all of our friends, all of the heroes are together and we're going to take down the bad guys.
00:41:26
Chris
on your patch.
00:41:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
00:41:31
Jordyn
And it could have been a little bit deeper, I think.
00:41:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:41:35
Jordyn
But it was still super cool to watch.
00:41:37
Chris
Oh yeah, watching them all rushed in there, that's amazing.
00:41:38
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It was a good battle scene. Like, it is a good action movie. It really is.
00:41:41
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:41:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But I think it just takes a lot of the heart from the book out.
00:41:44
Jordyn
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
00:41:47
Chris
And then the extra life comes into play before he gets the thing, that's awesome.
00:41:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes. And i I just feel like that wasn't as epic in the film as it was in the book because um they use – and they they talked about earlier in the book, and I don't remember if they mentioned it in the film at all, but they talk about this massive artifact that somebody bought, and it's never been seen again.
00:42:02
Jordyn
Mm-hmm. Yep.
00:42:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And they always wonder who bought it, and it's this massive bomb thing that will kill –
00:42:14
Chris
It kills everybody, yeah.
00:42:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
All the avatars within a certain range. And again. Going back to the coin that he got. um That is the only reason. Why he survived. They killed all the other high five. um Lots of other gunflers. Lots of IOI agents.
00:42:29
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um But because he has this coin. he's able to have revive a life um but he's lost everything like he doesn't have any of his armor etc um and but they're already in the gate right because they've already used the three keys and this is when he has to
00:42:50
Chris
Tempest is the game he has to play in there. And and then there's the Monty Python.
00:42:53
Sarah-Daye McDougall
isn't there another movie is this the holy grail yeah um
00:42:56
Chris
Yeah, Holly Grail reenactment is right after that and when he gets to a certain point.
00:42:59
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And they're all listening. like They're all with him um through the um earpiece, which is just a nice little moment that they're still there and like they get to watch him.
00:43:02
Chris
Yep.
00:43:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
even And they're like, we can read you lines if you need it, but he doesn't need it, of course, because he's Parsifal. um
00:43:15
Chris
And that was part of Ogden Morrow being able to link them all together.
00:43:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And again...
00:43:17
Chris
Them being together gave them an advantage there and him being able to help them where that helped a lot.
00:43:22
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:43:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:23
Jordyn
Because Sorrento has taken over another like sixer avatar and is still like going through it and chasing him.
00:43:29
Chris
Going for the same thing, yeah.
00:43:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, and he's only like
Final Battle Analysis: Stakes in Book and Film
00:43:32
Jordyn
So there. Yeah. Yeah. So there is still like it. I think in the movie it kind of feels like Wade just gets to like take his time and it's like it's all like we defeated like everybody got blown up and it's and it's over.
00:43:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
nine minutes behind in the film.
00:43:45
Jordyn
So now I can kind of take my time versus in the book. It's like, no, you still got to hustle, dude.
00:43:48
Chris
Other than the real world tension.
00:43:50
Jordyn
Like they're still coming.
00:43:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:51
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:43:52
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:43:53
Chris
Because in the movie, they're coming out. He's coming after him physically. He's like chasing the van, the van to try and kill him instead, and which does add a little bit of tension there.
00:43:57
Jordyn
her
00:44:00
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:44:02
Chris
Like, um you're going actually just kill people over this video game. Okay.
00:44:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:44:06
Chris
um But, and there is some of that all throughout the book, but the fact that he's in the game, having to find this final little level and doesn't have that fear for his life while doing that, it's kind of nice, but.
00:44:09
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:44:14
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:44:17
Jordyn
Well, they we never, sorry, we never we never talked about it earlier, but, like, IOI blows up Wade's RV where he lives with his aunt.
00:44:17
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And again.
00:44:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh, yes.
00:44:23
Chris
oh yeah.
00:44:24
Jordyn
Like, we didn't we haven't mentioned that, but, like, That happens in both the book and the movie. like And that happens even before in the book they kill Daito. So like they have a track record. They absolutely are willing to kill people in real life to win this game. like they They are taking it that seriously where somebody somewhere, whether it's Sorrento or people higher than him, they're signing off on on these hits against people in real life.
00:44:51
Jordyn
So yeah, the threat is definitely real, definitely there.
00:44:56
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Two comments. One, the the chasing in the van thing is another comedic relief moment because the van is like swerving and he's like trying to put the key in he's swerving and then um the Halliday's avatar is like,
00:45:04
Chris
and Grab of the egg and yeah.
00:45:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
He's very funny. it's It's a cute little moment in the film.
00:45:16
Jordyn
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Going back to blowing up the stacks, his aunt as a character, we didn't really talk about her in the last episode, but she was very much changed because in the movie, she's a lot more sympathetic and and kind to Wade, whereas in the book, she's just as bad as the boyfriend is to him.
00:45:33
Jordyn
yeah
00:45:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And it almost seems like ah like the Dursleys, like it's such a burden to have this nephew.
00:45:38
Jordyn
yeah
00:45:40
Chris
Right.
00:45:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um Whereas like you're actually really sad that she well I guess you're you're sad that the stacks blow up in the book as well but they make her a lot more sympathetic in the in the movie and like he he could have saved her if the boyfriend wasn't being such a jerk about it.
00:45:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
00:45:54
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:45:55
Chris
Right.
00:45:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Although she didn't really have that much time but it it it is a different character.
00:45:57
Chris
No. And Mrs. Gilmore is his friend that lives in him that he was more sad about in the book and in the movie somewhat.
00:46:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, and she survives in the movie.
00:46:03
Chris
but
00:46:04
Jordyn
no
00:46:05
Chris
Does she? Oh.
00:46:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
She, well, I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure she comes up at the end when they're all kind of confronting Sorrento.
00:46:11
Chris
Okay.
00:46:12
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:46:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I thought that was the same woman.
00:46:13
Jordyn
Yeah, I think so.
00:46:15
Chris
um The stacks are crazy when you really think about, like, he was on, like, the 30 or, you know, way up in this stack.
00:46:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:46:21
Chris
And it ah if you take the normal measure of a manufactured home, he's, like, 300, 400 feet in the air with this ah this this scaffolding that he's walking on to get down.
00:46:33
Chris
And he was, like, right up at the top.
00:46:33
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:46:34
Chris
like, these are insane. I couldn't imagine ever having to live up in this sort of outer scaffolding.
00:46:38
Jordyn
Yeah, it's super sketchy.
00:46:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
There's also a lot more people. Like, in the movie, it's just him his aunt and her boyfriend, but in the book, isn't there, like, multiple families in this one?
00:46:45
Jordyn
hand
00:46:45
Chris
It's like a double wide with like four different groups and yeah.
00:46:47
Jordyn
Yeah, there's like 15 plus people in fifteen plus people in there Yeah.
00:46:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah Yeah, so they all die in the book, too.
00:46:55
Chris
And I would absolutely try and find his hideout.
00:46:55
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I mean, it's not funny.
00:46:57
Chris
Like his van which was kind of the perfect hideout for that. Then they did a good job showing that in both the film and the book.
00:47:00
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:47:02
Jordyn
yeah
00:47:03
Chris
They did a great job with that piece.
00:47:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Except in the film they see him running because isn't that when she gets him to the resistance and there's this random guy with the face tattoos.
00:47:11
Chris
She takes him away from that.
00:47:12
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:47:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:15
Chris
because she's a some sort of covert spy organization basically is what it feels like and that that threw me off a little bit but
00:47:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Another added counter. Yeah.
00:47:20
Jordyn
yeah
00:47:23
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah ah anyway um so then we can come back to the ending now um parcival wins meets halliday's avatar um and then splits the winnings and hes he's about to sign the contract and he's like it feels wrong um which i think is a little different than the book No, yes, because in the book here, he had promised them to split the winnings before he even went in.
00:47:51
Jordyn
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And he does the whole live announcement about it. um And then the movie adds that they in the like the epilogue that they close it on Tuesdays and Thursdays so that people really have to experience real life.
00:48:08
Chris
Right. In the book, he ends up in like Holiday's office, which has the largest collection of all like old computer systems and stuff like that and video game systems.
00:48:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:48:17
Chris
And um he has to find the right one and turn it on. And that's where he gets the egg from.
00:48:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
okay
00:48:22
Chris
And then he still has that whole conversation in Anorak's study. which is where the big red button is and everything that we see in the film and in the book.
00:48:30
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:48:30
Chris
And so we can use that button to shut down the entire oasis and have a tapeworm go through and destroy the whole thing, which is an interesting ah concept that in the book, they talk about how it would, I i don't know if they talk about the first book, but the second one, for sure, they talk about how that would throw off everything in ah society.
00:48:37
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:48:48
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:48:49
Chris
Like planes wouldn't fly right.
00:48:50
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Well, it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like if you shut, ah if if the internet were to disappear.
00:48:51
Chris
and You know, it's everything.
00:48:56
Chris
If the government shuts down, oh, wait.
00:48:57
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. ah
00:49:00
Chris
ah that That's fine, I guess.
00:49:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Like how much we rely on the internet today and like our reality and like if the internet were just, yeah.
00:49:02
Chris
No.
00:49:06
Chris
Yeah, there is a lot of stuff that's based on old technology at this point that if it goes offline, it it would be catastrophic.
00:49:10
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I think completely businesses and like corporate like corporations that – like how would we communicate with the other countries?
00:49:20
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:20
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Like I don't even have a landline, you know? Like –
00:49:22
Chris
Right.
00:49:22
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:49:24
Chris
um And the last thing there that was interesting is in the movie, for sure, he makes it has the question of, he asks Anorak, you're not, or he asks Holiday when he talks to him, you're not an avatar, are you?
00:49:38
Chris
And he says that he's not, that he's something else, um which is interesting because it's like he's actually a full
00:49:45
Sarah-Daye McDougall
He is the Oasis.
00:49:47
Chris
He is that AI that is literally Holiday's life inside there. Yeah, it's really interesting.
00:49:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:49:54
Chris
And that's the hint that kind of leads into the second book's AI stuff a little bit more. But they don't actually have it in the book, I don't think. Not quite the same.
00:50:02
Jordyn
Yeah. Do you guys think they anticipated this movie doing so well that they would get to make the second film for the second book? Or
Sequel Film Speculation and Storyline Potential
00:50:11
Chris
doesn't seem like it was ever intended. I mean, they they I think there was some questions about it, but it doesn't seem like it was the point. So I don't know.
00:50:12
Jordyn
that they...
00:50:18
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:50:18
Chris
and like I would love them to. I think they they could do a good job with the concepts in the second one, but i haven't seen it.
00:50:21
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:50:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
What is the main, um like, what's the antagonist of the second book?
00:50:24
Jordyn
The...
00:50:31
Chris
Anorak is the bad guy the whole thing.
00:50:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Oh.
00:50:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Huh.
00:50:36
Chris
So the AI that is Anorak
00:50:37
Jordyn
That's Mm-hmm.
00:50:39
Chris
was supposed, yeah, it I can get into it, but it yeah i don't want to, were in the movie if anybody, or the book if anybody hasn't read it yet, but it's definitely an interesting a storyline of AI and the way that, um and and it shows kind of how each of them handled the money and the, you know, fame and all that.
00:50:55
Chris
And what it does explain, know, kind of lead into ah the more important part of certain stories is what happens after you win this giant thing.
00:51:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Right.
00:51:02
Chris
And I like that sort of thing, but it, does change the way certain people see it until the very end when you find out it wasn't um in from the perspective you thought it was entirely.
00:51:14
Chris
So
00:51:14
Jordyn
Interesting.
00:51:15
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah, I think I won't be reading the second one.
00:51:19
Chris
fair enough. I'll keep it all to myself.
00:51:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So I think we kind of covered everything.
00:51:24
Jordyn
Keep your secrets.
00:51:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
we we We talked about things that were cut. We talked about things that were added. um But do you think that these changes help streamline the story or do you think they weakened it? and
00:51:38
Chris
Certain ones definitely weakened it, but it did tell the story in a way that was fun. i always enjoy the movie. where get but By the time I get to the end, I'm happy. I enjoyed what I saw. I thought it was fun.
00:51:48
Chris
i you know want to go back and read the book because I want to see it right. But ah you know I enjoy the story I had watched.
00:51:55
Jordyn
Yeah, I think it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a fun, like, sci-fi action adventure movie, then, like, it's perfect, and it hits all the notes, and
Comparing Movie Flair and Book Depth
00:52:05
Jordyn
it's well written, and it, like, is interesting, it makes you think about things, but if you want something that's a little bit more, like, in depth, because, like, yeah, because, like, and Klein, like, really digs into, like, his thoughts on, like, religion and politics, and, like,
00:52:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Epic.
00:52:21
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hey
00:52:21
Jordyn
you know, the economy, like that kind of stuff. So if you want like a little bit more of a deeper take on those topics, like through the guise of this world and the Oasis, then like you're not really going to get it as much. Like you have like the evil corporation that you're fighting against, but they're kind of like your typical like action movie goons. They're not really like...
00:52:44
Jordyn
intelligent and like they're more like mustache twirly than like intelligent adversaries to like do battle with intellectually um so if you want it to be a little bit more intellectual in this world you've got to read the book but if you just want to hang out and see some pop culture references and pretend like you're in a video game for a couple hours the movie's great
00:53:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:53:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Agreed.
00:53:07
Chris
ah But where was the Wil Wheaton ah as president of the Oasis?
00:53:08
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:53:11
Chris
ah
00:53:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:53:12
Chris
ah Why didn't we get a cameo of that? I want i want to see him you know on the screen giving a speech inside the Oasis as he protects user rights.
00:53:16
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:53:21
Chris
That would have been great.
00:53:22
Jordyn
Yeah.
00:53:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
It was fun. That is a fun little reference, especially with Wil Wheaton being the audiobook narrator.
00:53:26
Chris
The one reading it, yeah.
00:53:27
Sarah-Daye McDougall
it's It's a fun little Easter egg, if you will.
00:53:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um So should we get into our bookmarked moments?
00:53:34
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:53:36
Chris
Um, I like every page.
00:53:36
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay, Jordan, let's start with you. What do you like best about the movie adaptation?
00:53:44
Jordyn
um honestly the cgi like it's really really good it's really immersive i couldn't identify any moments where i was like oh that's really bad and like they probably should have done more put in a little bit more work there like it's really top-notch cgi and i think it's so easy for movies to like cut corners in that specific area these days like and any i love marvel but like any marvel movie that comes out there's always like a couple of scenes that you're like ooh
00:54:03
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Chris?
00:54:12
Jordyn
that's tough. Like I can tell that it's CGI, but I didn't have any moments like that in in this movie. So it looked really cool. It felt appropriate for what we were trying to do as far as like it being a video game.
00:54:25
Jordyn
um And so like they really nailed nailed it. So shout out to the CGI artists for that.
00:54:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
chris
00:54:32
Chris
Um, the, the DeLorean is getting to see a DeLorean that is turned into like his Ghostbusters, version and like Ecto, and he called it Ecto something one, um, was, uh, just so much fun.
00:54:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Wow.
00:54:47
Chris
And I, ah I've watched some, uh, behind the scenes stuff over, uh, an interview with, uh, Ernest Klein recently where he was doing a house tour and he's got two of these in his garage that he's restored.
00:54:58
Chris
And, had does fun stuff with. He was driving one around that has like Star Wars stuff on it that he's done on Star Wars Day. He was driving it around to seeing him people.
00:55:04
Sarah-Daye McDougall
wow
00:55:04
Jordyn
That's so cool.
00:55:06
Chris
He loves the all the stuff from these movies. So seeing that he put this ah so much of his heart into this movie and we get to see that on screen is so much fun.
00:55:17
Jordyn
That's really cool.
00:55:18
Sarah-Daye McDougall
I have to agree with Jordan, though, that the CGI is my favorite part of the adaptation. um it's It's a really beautiful film to watch. And you're right, there's not a moment when they're in the Oasis that looks bad.
00:55:31
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But that does bring me to my least favorite aspect of the adaptation, and that is the avatars for IROC and for... Artemis H is fine like he's not the same but I i don't mind his avatar but I really don't like Artemis's avatar and I rock really i mean I rock's character makes me mad all just all of it um but Jordan what is your least favorite ah part of the movie adaptation
00:55:41
Chris
Thank you.
00:56:00
Jordyn
Um, probably the hyper focus on Kira. and just didn't feel necessary.
00:56:05
Sarah-Daye McDougall
hmm
00:56:06
Jordyn
I feel like you could have still made it about the shining and holidays past without like giving that weird like attachment to this woman.
00:56:17
Jordyn
Like she's she's at this point, like in the story, like she's died. Like, let her let her rest in peace. Like, we don't need to keep talking about her and bringing her up, especially when it's like,
00:56:22
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Sure.
00:56:27
Jordyn
you were in love with her and then your best friend married her. like There's just a lot of like weirdness there that I could have done without personally.
00:56:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Mm-hmm.
00:56:33
Jordyn
So I wish we had found another avenue to get us from one key to the next.
00:56:39
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Fair.
00:56:39
Chris
That's fair. um My least favorite would probably just be the um losing some of the important references to, you know, content they could probably couldn't get for the film, like the D&D references. And some of the games were not ah really shown in a way that would have made the arcade games more relevant. And I wish we would have seen more of that.
00:57:00
Chris
80s culture um on screen a little more so, you know, if we could have gotten more full view of the war games interaction.
00:57:01
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:57:09
Chris
I mean, they obviously those are full films on their own. So having them in a film is tough, but that's the sort of stuff that I would have loved.
00:57:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
good
00:57:15
Chris
I loved in the book, seeing them really dig into this history of the 80s and in pop culture. And we lose some of that with the way they had to go with rights and all that for the movies.
00:57:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah. Okay, and what is the most memorable moment of either the book or the film or as an adaptation, Jordan?
00:57:38
Jordyn
um
00:57:40
Chris
The question that makes all memory go away.
00:57:42
Sarah-Daye McDougall
and
00:57:42
Jordyn
i um Every time, every time. And I know it's coming and it still gets me. I think for me, it's the line the the last line that's in like in the book and the movie where it's like, reality is real.
00:57:54
Jordyn
And so like, because ultimately you're left with this feeling that like, yeah, the Oasis is great. And like that kind of technology can be great and beneficial, but you have to live in the real world, real world, because reality is real.
00:58:07
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
00:58:08
Jordyn
That's where you can fall in love and have true connection and true friendships. And so that that line is what's going to be the most memorable thing for me is reality is what's real and so like stay in reality yeah or at least ground yourself there yeah touch grass basically
00:58:22
Chris
stay connected yeah
00:58:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes.
00:58:27
Chris
It burns.
00:58:31
Jordyn
what about you chris
00:58:32
Chris
um I wrote a note the other day that made me laugh when I was listening to the book again. um he i think it was one of the things from Holiday's journal or his Anorak's almanac or whatever they called it.
00:58:44
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:58:45
Chris
It was the line that people who live in glass houses should shut the F up.
00:58:49
Chris
<unk> like that's that's That's good. I like that.
00:58:49
Sarah-Daye McDougall
a
00:58:53
Chris
And yeah, just connected with what I was, i don't know, I was driving and I started laughing. So I made sure that I noted that one, bookmarked it.
00:59:02
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um I think my favorite moment is when Parsifal and, or I should say Helen and Wade actually meet in real life.
00:59:13
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um I know that h has a lot I'm sure she's very intimidated by the meeting because she knows that she's been lying to Wade, but they are best friends still.
00:59:13
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:59:24
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And I just love that Wade is very accepting. Like he takes a minute to be shocked, but then he accepts it and he accepts her.
00:59:30
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
00:59:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And they have this whole conversation about how her mom influenced her. to not be a black woman in the Oasis. um But then when she comes out as a gay woman, her mom does not accept her.
00:59:46
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um And they have not spoken since. and But Wade still accepts her. um And it's just it's really it's just a really nice moment between them. like they like Their friendship still shines through. you know you know so i I'm always big on the friendship storylines. So that just makes me really happy.
01:00:05
Chris
And that one was great, especially with the ah way that prejudice can sneak up on people and families and things like that.
01:00:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
01:00:12
Chris
It was nice to see that Wade didn't have that problem.
01:00:12
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yeah.
01:00:16
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
01:00:16
Chris
And he was accepting, because I've known this person for years now, and they are my friend. And whether they are this woman or a man that I thought I was talking to, we knew that in the Oasis. It's not always who you think you're talking to.
01:00:26
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah
01:00:27
Chris
So...
01:00:28
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Well, in particular, he has this thought like, wait, we've talked about liking women. And that's when she's like, well, I do like women.
01:00:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:34
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And that's where the story with her mom comes out. And so um for her, it must mean so much that her own mom didn't accept her.
01:00:38
Chris
It's a good engaging loving story. Yeah.
01:00:43
Sarah-Daye McDougall
But um Wade and the rest of the high five do accept her in in reality.
01:00:48
Jordyn
Yeah.
01:00:48
Chris
Right away. Yeah.
01:00:50
Jordyn
And that makes me sad that that whole thing was taken out of the movie.
01:00:54
Chris
Mm hmm.
01:00:54
Sarah-Daye McDougall
yeah but again like again I think just with the time they have in a movie just can't go into all those little nuances that a book had I mean the book is so long too ah but again that is why I really do hope one day we can get a show out of Ready Player One because I do think that it would be more faithful and we can get these types of storylines out of it but time will tell alright friends any other final thoughts before we hop off
01:00:55
Jordyn
None of that happens in the movie.
01:00:59
Jordyn
Yes, totally.
01:01:14
Jordyn
yeah
01:01:15
Chris
I agree.
01:01:15
Jordyn
Absolutely.
01:01:17
Chris
Fingers crossed.
01:01:25
Chris
We've gone through a lot.
01:01:25
Jordyn
Read the book, watch the movie.
01:01:25
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay.
01:01:25
Chris
I think I'm good. Definitely. Definitely read the book. Watch the movie. They're worth it.
01:01:30
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Yes, definitely.
01:01:30
Jordyn
Send us your feedback.
01:01:32
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Please do.
01:01:32
Jordyn
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01:01:32
Chris
Yeah.
01:01:33
Jordyn
Let us know what's what what your thoughts are. Mm-hmm.
01:01:35
Sarah-Daye McDougall
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01:01:39
Chris
We're all hanging out there.
01:01:40
Sarah-Daye McDougall
um
01:01:40
Jordyn
Mm-hmm.
01:01:41
Sarah-Daye McDougall
And with that, I guess we'll see you next week um for our December books to be announced shortly.
01:01:50
Chris
I'm excited.
01:01:50
Jordyn
Yay.
01:01:52
Sarah-Daye McDougall
Okay. Bye.
01:01:53
Chris
by
01:01:54
Jordyn
Bye.