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Acting/Directing Success

Spiritual Fitness with Eric Bigger
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Reunion and Reminiscence

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Whoa!
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There he is!
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What's up, baby?
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What's going on?
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Can't call it.
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Hey, man.
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Good to see you, man.
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Can't call it.
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How you doing, dawg?
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Man, I can't complain, man.
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Breathing air, man.
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Attitude of gratitude, man.
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How you feeling?
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I'm feeling great, bro.
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It's been a busy day, but I'm glad it's almost, it's almost come to an end and I get to end it with my nigga E bigger.
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Hey man, you know, what's funny about that moment?
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uh uh maxwell put me in a a skit as if i was acting i knew how to act i didn't even know what i was doing bro that was my first time ever acting that was perfect and it worked perfectly yeah it worked perfectly especially for like the bit that we were doing it would work perfectly and then you had like everybody asking if this is a real movie and i'm going to return to a real movie that was the best that was the highlight for me of the whole situation yeah you know what i'm saying
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Yeah, man.
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That was perfect.
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Those are good memories because it was like, damn.
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So when I see you now on the TV screen, I'm like, I know him.
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That's my God.
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That's my God.
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It's like, it's so many memories in that moment because I'm like, damn, look at life.
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You know, look how life transforms for people who don't give up, who don't quit.
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So the people who are on this live right now who don't know,
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The guy he's on right now, John.
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I know him as Gene.
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I don't know if I ever told you that.
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I used to call you Gene, but John, Ellie is a good friend of mine.
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We did a few skits together years ago.
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I think it was for like Funny or Die.
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Funny or Die, yep.
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You know, with a good friend of ours, Maxwell Towson, shout out to Maxwell.
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Yeah, man, I haven't seen Max in a minute, bro.
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I actually tried to hit his line the other day and it was called, he was probably busy, but like, I was like, yo, I wanted to tap in with him because I haven't heard from him in a long

Balancing Act: Career and Life

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time.
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The last time I spoke to him, he had this podcast he was doing where he's like interviewing people and everything like that, people from his life that he worked with in the past.
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And from what I hear, he was doing really well, you know what I'm saying?
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So shout out to Max.
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And he's a mess.
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20 max.
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Yeah, man.
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So like I said, man, thank you for being here on this Friday.
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I know you're busy.
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You got a lot going on.
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We just going to discuss, you know, acting, directing.
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I almost fucked up the time frame.
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I was dropping off merch in Burbank to run back home.
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Burbank is how they're at.
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Yeah, I was in Burbank just a little while, just like 20 minutes ago.
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It's like 30 minutes ago.
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I'm lying.
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I got to buy something from you, man.
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When we get off here, I'm going to get some stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Link up, link up.
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But yeah, man, so, you know, we gonna talk, like I said, acting, directing, your career, success, establishing it, maintaining it.
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But I got some questions for you.
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But the way these questions work, this is kind of like a rapid fire, which you only can have one word answers.
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All right, we just gonna break the ice with it.
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So you actually shooting it right now?
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I mean, I'm just, you know, I gotta, you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta put my boy in the, hold on, it's retreating.
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Can you see me fine?
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Should I get inside of you more light?
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I mean, if you can get more light would be great.
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If not, I can still see you.
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Hold on, I got you.
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I got you.
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I got you.
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I got you.
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My man Joe, Ellie, baby, straight out of Massachusetts, baby.
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It's like, you know, we be on the camera a lot.
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We be trying to get that best light.
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I got you, baby.
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You got a ring light though, right?
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Nah, I ain't got no ring light.
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I got basically, I got a softbox light.
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Yeah, that's beneficial.
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Yeah, for the audition tapes and stuff like that.
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Like I just had to do one this morning.
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Oh, okay.
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Hey man, I'm gonna just put it out there because this is what I was watching some of your stuff on YouTube and I'm just put it out there because this is what I feel for you.
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I see you in a big movie soon, like a Black Panther 2.
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I see you in something like the movie that just came out, Black Judas.
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Judas and the Black Messiah.
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Yeah, I see you in that.
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I see you on another hit TV show.
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You know, I saw you had like a one minute reel on YouTube.
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I'm like, man, bro, really got it.
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You know how some people just,
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You just got that look, you know what I mean?
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Like you got that look that's an actor on that's on TV, like you can play multiple roles.
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So I'm gonna just put that out just so you can get it out of my spirit and my subconscious just to let you know, like I see you, I see that for you.
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I foresee it, you know?
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I'm receiving, receiving all the energy and love that you're handing out right now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sorry.
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What's up Brianna?
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I see you Lucy.
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I see you Jasmine.
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These are all my IG Live movie night family.
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Alameda, I see you.
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One Leaf, I see you.
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Yeah, so with these questions, like I said, it's gonna be quick, but it's only one word answers, right?
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That one word is, just say it.
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It's just whatever comes to your mind.
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All right, so the first question is, why acting and entertaining?
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Why not?
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Are you more on-camera talent as you are behind-the-scenes talent?
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Yes.
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What does Brothers Keeper mean to you?
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Family.
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What does Insecure mean to you?
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Me.
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What does Fear mean to Gene?
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Go time.
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What brought you to LA?
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Hope.

Loss and Motivation

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it there we go now we go now we in it now we in it yeah so basically i just wanted to kind of like break the ice um you know i i want to i want to kind of like get a little deep in the beginning not as deep but i remember we was up in the hills one night or one one evening man for an event and you told me we was on it was somewhere it was during the day and you told me about your brother bro and for me at the time
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It shook me up because that was the last thing I would expect to tell him.
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Not that it was bad or good, it just was like your personality, your persona, how you came off as an individual, you being authentic, you being genuine.
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It made me really think like, man, buddy really out here trying to make it happen, man.
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He just had something happen to him that could leave him
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You know, so if you can take me back, not to the moment or like the turning point of that moment of getting that information or what it did to your spirit to push you where you are today.
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It was like, damn, you really want to go deep.
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It was like pulling my safety net from under me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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losing someone like someone that that impactful on my life was like pulling my safety net from under me like this is a person that taught me everything and everything i do in my life he's the person i emulated he's the person i looked after looked up to um he's the person i could come to for anything he's the person he was my superhero so when your superhero when when all the heroes are gone it's and it's just you it's now you have to figure out what it is that you're doing
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what was your motivation what moved you what got you to where you're going you know i'm saying so i was a lost boy who found his way you feel me so through through that situation i was able to find myself and find the things i like to do for me while also giving shouting out my big bro and all the things i do you know i'm saying so he's he's a part of every journey every
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every part of me and also allowed me to grow and also allowed me to see through situations that are just not for me and i'm saying like it allowed me to understand the type of people i have around me because you learn very quickly how people move when you lose someone that close to you and and also allowed me to see
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The people who are always in your ear talking about, yo, I'm here for you, I'm your man, dah, dah, dah.
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But they're not really that.
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A lot of people are not really that.
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They're there for the moment.
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Or they're there, they're telling you, putting battery in your back and telling you things you think you need to know.
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I've learned all that through that.
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And I learned not to take things too seriously.
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I learned that life is short, you know what I'm saying?
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And enjoy the people that you have around you to the fullest.
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And then also don't hold people.
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You can hold people accountable, but you also don't put too much stock in things because at some point in time, the disappointment is going to happen and you have to be able to maneuver around the disappointment.
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and not and understanding like that was where that person was or that was where you were in that moment and you have to just move past it because you can't sit there and look at a glass hat as half full you know what I'm saying like you just got to keep the pushing forward you feel me man that's big I feel like you know not to be so spiritual man I feel like your big bro is like talking through you right now you sound like a big brother bro
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brother like really trying to give him advice about life like don't put too much stock in a person you said something that really stuck with me just now you said um you was a lost boy that found his way i don't know if that's like a slogan you use or something you just said it right now that's powerful bro you should keep that that's kind of like that's a statement that's like slogan or like a lost boy who found his way and i believe you did find your way so
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To the people who know, like, what brought you to L.A.?
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How long have you been here?
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And what was the inspiration behind it?
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Well, it was after my brother passed away.
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That was like, I'd rather him.
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He and I was the only person that spoke about what I was doing.
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Like, the acting was on a side tip in Broughton and Boston.
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And he said, you know what?
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He's like, I fuck with you.
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Whatever you're going to do, it's going to win.
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Whatever you put your head in, you're going to win.
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I said, cool, Emily passed away.
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It was, do I stay home and try and still try here?
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Or do I leave and keep and move on, move on and try to make a way for myself for real?
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Because there's no time waits for nobody.
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And tomorrow's not promised for me.
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So I need to like really make a move ASAP.
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I consulted with my cousin who lives in New York.
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And he said, if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it for real.
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You gotta either move to New York or you gotta be in LA.
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So I made the choice to move to LA because one, it was furthest away from my family so I can really focus.
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And I didn't have, I don't have that comfort level of having to be, having like, oh, I can stay at my mom's crib.
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I could do this, I could do that, or stay at my cousin's crib in New York.
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I could just, you know what I'm saying?
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And move around and being pulled into family stuff.
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So I had to like really,
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move on and really make something happen for myself.
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And I called the only person I knew in LA at the time.
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And he said, yo, you can come live with me.
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And by the time I flew out here, quit my job and moved to LA, home.
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This was 2009.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay.
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2009, April.
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So my 11th year anniversary, no 12th year anniversary is coming up.
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No 11th year anniversary is coming up this year.
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Okay.
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Wow.

New Beginnings in LA

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So I move here and at the airport, homie bails on me at the airport, told me I can't stay with him.
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So I'm like, shit.
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You know what it was?
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He thought you was bluffing.
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He thought he wasn't going to come.
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He probably thought it was BSing.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, look, if I'm going to do, I'm here.
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And I wish you told me this before I left Boston.
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So there's this guy at Baggage Claim that I was with him.
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And I asked this dude I met at Baggage Claim if I could live with him.
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And he said, yeah, sure.
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It allowed me to stay at his crib for like the first four months until I found my crib in Bassett House.
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on basset house on basher street in van oz and i lived there with a bunch of creators who were running and gunning and waiting to make trying to make it happen for themselves and they all found their way too you know wow that's a blessing i mean that that that intro that that first part of that story sounds like a tv show or movie
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Yeah, it's crazy, man.
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It's crazy because you show up thinking that, all right, cool.
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I have a place to stay.
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I got a place to rest my head.
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And the person who's supposed to hold you down told you you can't live with them.
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Like you can crash at this spot for a night or two, and that's it.
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So I'm like, damn, I got to buy a ticket home.
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Or I could ask this person, take a chance and ask this man that I just met at baggage claim if I could live with him.
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And he said, yeah.
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He said, yeah.
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So I had no choice but to get it at this point.
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A complete stranger met me and said yes to me.
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So I gotta say yes to myself too and really get it.
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So therefore I'm not letting him down who took a chance on somebody he just met at the airport.
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So I got up every morning at 6am.
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I made sure I wasn't in the house and I was back when he wasn't at when he was at work.
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I was out of the house when he came back.
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I was back in the crib.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like you gotta keep it moving.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So.
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Absolutely.
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You know, before we talk about acting, I feel like, you know,
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for you now i'm thinking and listen i feel like acting found you but i felt like acting found you with the spirit of your brother like you gotta you gotta get him in this industry like you know what i'm saying like his spirit of acting kind of like found you right but can you kind of tell the people can you tell me like what were you passionate about before you started acting or doing theatrical work bro
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passionate bro i had all i was passionate about was hustle that's it yeah it was about the hustle for me so before acting became my thing i was i was working for sprint i had like i was a district manager for like three key mall kiosks um i had a nightclub promotion business i was uh going to new york buying bundles a crates for like air force ones georgas and nikes and selling them at school
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I was selling them at school.
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I was good with the computer, so I knew how to do ringtones and everything like that for your Nextels and all your Blackberries and stuff like that.
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I was setting that up.
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I was in the merch gang because I was doing silk screen tees, like iron-on tees and stuff like that, and had that going.
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So I had a bunch of my hands and a lot of pots.
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So my goal was simple before acting.
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It was, I'm going to own a nightclub.
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I'm going to own a barbershop.
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And I'm going to have three sprint stores and I'm done.
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And I'll be cool on that.
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And then my acting.
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So your videos, you're going to have your own promotion company, right?
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Yeah, I'm having my own.
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Right now, it's all about Basset House, Basset House merchandise, and creating and developing new content with up and coming filmmakers, you know what I'm saying?
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And giving them the key and bridging the gap between their...
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with the knowledge they know, with the knowledge they, with the people they work there around to work and make their own content happy.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like that's the vibe, that's the goal.
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You kind of feed off of my question because I was, like I said, I did some research.
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So I was going to ask you now that you're older and you got more insight and experience in life, did you own some stock in Sprint?
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those barber shops and yeah those stills your ideas yeah i still those still ideas like i still want stock and merch and stuff like i now i'm investing in other things now uh i definitely the barbershop still always gonna happen i'm always gonna get the barbershop like i have to get the barbershop because that was my first goal and i'm gonna have a nightclub of course because that's just i just have to have it and then um
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I'm going to continue to diversify my portfolio as far as like, but the first step right now is grow Bassett House to the biggest it can be and get to where it

Creative Ventures and Opportunities

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needs to be.
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Can you elaborate what that is?
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Basset House.
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So Basset House is a culturally driven production company powered by filmmakers, you know what I'm saying?
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By BIPOC filmmakers who like to create their own content, who say yes to themselves, who are investing themselves with the people that sitting next to them that are not waiting for someone to give them an opportunity, but kind of like booking themselves and like making their own opportunities happen for themselves.
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And that's a shout out to the Basset House, the house I live on, Basset Street.
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where everybody in that house was a creative working together and supporting one another's craft and building each other up to
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eventually graduate into the industry and get themselves in the industry themselves.
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By the time I left Bassett House, everybody had their own career.
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Andre Hatt became a series regular.
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Another roommate became, he creates video games for, and there's another roommate who's a celebrity hairstylist.
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Another roommate, she started her own management firm.
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Another roommate became a series regular on American Crime.
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Like everybody who lived in that career kind of graduated out of that house and created their own career.
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So Bassett House Pictures is gonna be an incubator for up and coming filmmakers where they could create their own stuff.
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And by the time they're done, they're gonna have a project they could take to market
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and going to theaters or going to film festivals or sell to a TV show.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like that's the goal for Basset House and for everybody.
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And I wanna call everybody, like we called at that house, wombies.
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So everybody who was a roommate was a wombie who supported one another and they helped each other get their things to go, you know?
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I mean, you sound like you got a plan, you got a real vision.
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Oh yeah, the vision is there.
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Yeah, I want to bring up the Allen and Chickmonks because I'm listening to you talk.
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And the first thing that came up, I was like, because I didn't know you had a voiceover in that movie.
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Yeah.
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And Chickmonk, so when you're talking now, I'm thinking about the Soul movie.
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Because when you said barbershop, I thought about the guy in the barbershop who was cutting the guy's hair.
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Oh, you talking?
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I'm like, yo, I think they need to hire my boy for the next Soul movie.
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You know what I mean?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I hear you.
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Full circle.
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Yo, bro, like Basset House was literally, when I say like working with someone next to you, like working with the people next to you, that's exactly how Alvin and Chipmunks happened.
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I'm literally in acting class working on my craft and a student in the acting class said, hey, can you do an audio recording of this?
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I said, cool.
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I do the audio recording and my boy owns a studio.
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So I went to his house and said, can you record this for me?
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He said, cool, you record it with me.
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We sent it and dude was like, yo, my dad wants to meet you.
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I said, all right, cool.
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Show up to show up to the crib.
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And I'm like, this is a big ass gate.
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to go to, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, to go into this problem, this is a big ass gate.
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And he opens it, he takes like a little while to come down.
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And he said, hey man, yeah, this is my, this is where I live, man.
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It's embarrassing.
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I said, it's embarrassing.
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This dude literally had a whole compound that he lived in, bro.
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His family owns, then he was like, oh yeah, my family owns Alvin and Chipmunks.
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I said, what?
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You talk about vibration manifestation, you was attracted to money, buddy.
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Yo, he sent my family on Alvin and Chipmunks and I was in there like, mind blown.
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And all I was doing was just in my class doing what I do.
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And the person sitting next to me was like, yo, let's build.
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And he went and he got me a job on Alvin and Chipmunks.
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You know what I'm saying?
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that's why i'd be like when people say yo i want to work with ava i want to wear this one that's great want to work with them but there's always the person that's sitting next to you that's doing it too like you really got to move with the person next to you because you're graduating together at the same time you know i'm saying like i view ho i view hollywood like high school
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So you got freshman year, sophomore year, junior year.
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Now you're in your senior year, you gotta get your electives right.
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That should be a book, bro.
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How do you go?
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That should be a book.
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That's wild.
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Yeah, man.
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And that's how things just started going from there, bro.
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I'm big on manifesting.
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And I'm big on writing goals out and plans out.
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And shit just moves that way.
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And not taking no for an answer.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So let me say, let me ask you a question.
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So when you say manifest, are you like, you write things down?
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Are you doing affirmations?
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Are you meditating?
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Are you setting intentions?
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Are you, you know, in line with the moon?
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Like how do you manifest?
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Did you speak it and you believe it?
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I speak it.
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I write it down.
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Okay.
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I create vision boards.
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Yeah, man.
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Like those are what, that's really what it is.
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And I walk in it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I walk into whatever it is I'm doing.
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I walk into it with the understanding and fully scared of everything I'm doing, but also fully ready for every single step I'm going to take because anything can happen at any moment.
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And I'm constantly trying to learn
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everybody else's job too and learn what everybody else is doing too when it comes to like the work.
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So I'm never out here asked out.
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I don't really know what's happening.
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I'm kind of trying, I'm always working on it.
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Yeah.
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I see you got your hands in everything.
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So yeah, good.
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And like I manifested man, like for instance, uh, insecure.
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Let me give me insecure.
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Right.
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in 2015 no 2013 i have a short film that i'm like i've been sitting on someone's hard drive for like i want to say three years oh wow someone's hard drive because they were waiting for the life rights to make it into a feature and i said bro i put in some good work in this i can't be sitting in your hard drive
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So I said, let me take the project on and allow me to become a producer and get it seen and get it where it needs to be.
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I created an event where I brought friends, family, some executives to come see the short film.
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They said they liked it, they watched it.
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Then I submitted to this
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weekly film festival where Robbie Reed got to see it and she said, I fuck with it.
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She likes it.
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And then I said, all right, cool.
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Let's take a step further.
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Let's start submitting to film festivals.
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So I started submitting to film festivals and I got to Urban World Film Festival in 2015.
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This is the same time Insecure is about to come out too.
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So Insecure is doing their run at the same time.
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So
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A Gentleman Always preview premiered in Times Square.
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The same time Insecure premiered in Times Square, right?
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At this Urban World Film Festival.
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I'm watching Insecure from the audience, a pilot episode from the audience, and I'm watching this thing happen.
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I'm like, this is a dope show.
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yeah and since my my shorts there everybody is interviewing and asking people questions and asking me questions and they say hey can you see yourself on insecure i say yeah i can see myself on the show wow a year later like six months later i get an audition to go for insecure
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And I'm scared to go in, you know, I'm like, oh, this is crazy.
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I don't know if I could do this.
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Yeah.
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So I'm like, okay, let me and I asked a couple people, they say, well, all the worst they could do is say no, right?
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I said, cool, whatever.
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So I go in with that worst they could do is say no, I give my tape.
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A couple of weeks later, I hear they want me to play Amon.
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I'm like, I literally said this a year ago on Beyond.
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I could see myself on the show.
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And now I'm on the show, not as a regular character, as Issa's brother.
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And I freaking love playing that character.
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And I was scared to play that character at first, but I freaking love playing that character.
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Because I was... Yeah, he dropped one of the characters because I didn't even know the character was what it was until I read some interviews about it.
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Yeah.
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And that's what I was scared.
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And the thing is, I was scared to play Amon because I was thinking about his sexuality versus who he was as an individual first.
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That's deep.
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And it's not about your sexuality, it's about who you are as an individual.
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It's about who he is.
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And a lot of people, a lot of people see his sexuality before they see who he was as an individual.
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And that was, and who he was in his essence, I'm like, yo, that's my guy.
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I am him.
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Right.
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So I was, as the years go on, I'm like, I'm getting my bag with them all.
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I'm like, all right, cool.
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Yeah.
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And the more research I'm doing, the more
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exposure to another side of the world like culture i'm being exposed to i'm able to really just live live in the mall and who and his skin i'm like this is this guy my guy i love this character yeah you know what i'm saying like that's the way you move and it's it's i think a lot of actors or young actors they're scared to play a character like a mom because they're thinking about sexuality versus who he is at first you know what i'm saying he's a person before anything
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You know what I'm saying?
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So, yeah.
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That's powerful.
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And it's interesting because I can look at things and say, yup.
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So when I see you on Insecure, I didn't even know that was his character.
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When I see you, I'm like, oh yeah, he belongs there.
00:27:52
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And I'm also like, is him and Issa related?
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Because I feel like maybe you two were cousins or sisters and brothers in the past life.
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Because y'all so...
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your synergy together, it just goes.
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It just works.
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It's like, yeah, you're like, whatever, bro.
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Like, yeah, whatever.
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What you think?
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Like, you know, it's like you know her.
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She knows you.
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Like, it's not even a thought.
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It's just a vibe, and it just works.
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You know?
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It's literally the vibe.
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It's literally

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the vibe.
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Like, everybody on there is so cool to play with.
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Like, everybody has a childlike mentality when it comes to playing, and you're joking around the whole day.
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Yeah.
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Joke around the whole day on set, whether it's on camera or off camera.
00:28:35
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Everybody has that playful vibe.
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And they work to get that happen by, like, people hanging out with one another.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, during, they host events together.
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They do all these things where people could just kick it and just catch a vibe off of one another.
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And you could just chill.
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So you can really get the energy off of one another.
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Yeah, you can.
00:28:57
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So what season is this for you?
00:28:59
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This is your third season you're on?
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This is my fourth season.
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It's the last season.
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Last season?
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Tell me there's going to be another show.
00:29:09
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Tell me you're working on another show or something.
00:29:16
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Here's the thing, man.
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And I'll be frank.
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I think as a black actor and man, you know, in the world,
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you know, I have nephews now, right?
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They're younger.
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So they need to see more black men in a role that you're in, like on TV.
00:29:32
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So like if I show reality hosting game show, whatever I'm doing commercial, I'm always thinking about my nephews, right?
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Because it's like, what is their blueprint?
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What do they look forward to?
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What do they look up to?
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So the more they see guys like ourselves,
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on TV, not playing basketball, not rapping, you know, but kind of, you know, acting or speaking or motivate, whatever that's, that's influential or positive.
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I think it, uh, it does something to that psyche.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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It's more, it's more about them trying to be like us to do what we do.
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It's like, what does it do to their mind when they're six, seven, eight, nine, how they thinking about themselves?
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Where I was at in Baltimore, it was either sell drugs or play ball.
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I'm like, oh, you know what I'm saying?
00:30:19
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And ball was the way to get where you wanted to go.
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At least you thought and then ball didn't work out.
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So I'm like, well, I didn't go pro in ball.
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So I must go pro in life.
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And I think it's important for young black men to establish themselves
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without athletics and without being cool and having swag, maybe potential young black men writers, you know, actors, you know, and it's more than just being, it's about the perception that's given off.
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You know, I think every
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race and culture has a perception and a stereotype.
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That's not always true and it's not fair because then you can't label before the label is, you know, it's taken off, you know, the top is taken off.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You can't.
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I just think
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Like I said, man, like you on that show, you just look like you belong.
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And that's why I see big movies for you, big TV shows and things of that nature coming because I receive it.
00:31:15
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I receive it.
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It's natural, you know, but I can't explain.
00:31:18
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It's just like, oh, yeah, that's, you know how you can see someone like, oh, yeah, he must be a model.
00:31:21
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Yeah, he must be a hooper.
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Like, you ain't got a question that you just know.
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Even when we were like doing our gig, I skipped probably seven years ago.
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When I watched it, I'm like, you was so in your character that you helped me
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be me because you didn't make me feel like it was acting and i think that's your presence i think your presence helped people feel like they can just be a person in that character yeah you know how you would talk to me your mannerisms just i remember one time i don't remember the line but we were doing something and he was kind of like coaching me without coaching me
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oh you're talking about when you were doing the raking scene like yeah we were talking yeah yeah yeah but that was that character's vibe you know what i'm saying i was like that character's vibe and you were you were looking for something so i try to get to the more the most human possible way of having a conversation with somebody when i'm doing something like i try to i put myself in it i put myself in a situation i put myself in
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the circumstance that we're that we're speaking to you know what I'm saying like as much as pop as much as me as possible you know what I'm saying yeah and you know it was just but but yeah just to get back insecure um you guys did it man it killed this is the last season unfortunately hopefully there's um maybe a new living living in color or I don't know uh first prince of bel-air martins that's already happening
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that swag you know that energy like nothing is fun no more you know at least for our folks that's like yeah i can't remember you know like you just know cole you knew tommy and you knew little carlton and you knew the but like you just you just you grew up with these people so it's like when you if you if i saw cole and tommy in real life i would think they're co and tommy yeah you know what i'm saying like i think that's how your role is on insecure like i
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And I think that's what we got to get back to, at least from my perspective, from the TV world is that... Wayne's Brothers, yeah, Wayne's Brothers is another good one.
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Yeah, Wayne's Brothers.
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So, you know, man, it's just...
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Man, man, I'm proud of you, man.
00:33:31
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Like, you just, you keep on and it's amazing.
00:33:36
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But I do have some other questions.
00:33:37
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So let's talk about, you know, we talked a little bit about insecurity.
00:33:41
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Let's talk about directing.
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Like, how did you get into like directing films and having that mindset and intentions to do that?
00:33:46
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Like, where did that motivation come from?
00:33:49
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That motivation came out of the whole, they're not booking me, so I got to start creating my own stuff.
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So I started learning that.
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So I took on an internship with the Eric Andre show and I started learning everything behind the scenes.
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And then, um, Vine became big at this time.
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So everybody's doing the Vine stuff.
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And I had a friend, Les, shout out to Les, who was like, yo,
00:34:17
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Um, you should meet my friends who do Vine.
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They do Vine.
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And his friends were like D Storm, King Badge, Lee-Ann V, all these heavy hitters like Javon Watts, Jahan Jones.
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And these are all dudes who are crushing it on doing short sketches.
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So I said, all right, let me go learn from these guys while I'm working on the production side.
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they showed me how to shoot this thing.
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I'm shooting my sketches and putting things together.
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I'm putting projects together.
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And then a friend of mine, Nicky, reached out to me and said, hey, there's a musician, there's a group that wants a music video and I don't have the bandwidth to make the music video.
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I said, fuck that.
00:35:05
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oh i don't know they said can you direct it for them i said look i don't need to shoot my little sketches i don't know if i could do someone else like you're doing great like you your angles your shot work your thing i'm cool directing myself but directing other people i'm not sure of i'm not sure i can do that she said think about it come up with an idea
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pitch to me.
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If it's good, I'll send it over to the guys and we'll go from there.
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And I'm asking all my director friends, hey, do you think I should do this?
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They said, what's the worst that can happen?
00:35:40
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You can fail and you don't do it again.
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Or you can fail like it and do it again.
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Or you can do well and love it.
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I said, all right, cool.
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We'll see.
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But I don't know how to explain shots because I didn't go to film school.
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I didn't know how to explain what I need.
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Right?
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So
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What I knew was movies and I knew shots that I like, I knew all those things.
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So I took their song, laid it on the final, final, final pro, final pro 10, final draft, what up?
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Final cut, final cut 10.
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I laid it, I laid the song out and I started splicing videos and songs and everything, scenes I like, and I played the music over it and I said, this is what I want to shoot.
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And I sent that over to them
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And they said, this is dope, let's do it.
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And they said, this is the budget.
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I said, cool, let's make it happen.
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And my homegirl who directed before said, I'll be along with you the whole way.
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And I'll watch the money, I'll help you get to what you need to be.
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I said, cool.
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And we shot a music video and that music video,
00:36:52
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was got shelved so i did all this and it got shelved because the artist didn't they the band broke up so they want to put the music video out so i took that music video and my boy uh artist named brandon tory had just moved down from boston from atlanta to la and i showed it to him he's like this is dope um listen to this song tell me what you think i listen to the song i said this song is cool
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And I started seeing visuals of how the song could look, music video wise.
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I said, I want to pair this with ballerina dancers and you playing the guitar.
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This is a real soulful thing.
00:37:32
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You have the ballerinas dancing against each other.
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They're the two different women in your life.
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He came up with a budget, shot it.
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Microsoft saw the video because he won a contest, saw the video, and then they put all that music video in all the Yoda Pro laptops as the placement video for his music, for his artists, and he got picked up.
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They used the music video and everything.
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So then that just started spiraling more work.
00:38:06
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More work started coming off that.
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of that just from that one chance I took on myself.
00:38:12
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Stories you've been sharing, I feel like you always kept it 100 with yourself.
00:38:15
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You always ask questions like, what do you guys think?
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What do you guys think?
00:38:20
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I was reading a Forbes magazine probably like three years ago and it had like the top 100 quotes from like the richest people in the world.
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And one stood out to me said, the best advice you can ask for anyone in business is what do you think?
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I already know what I think.
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Yeah.
00:38:38
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to see oh you know what i didn't even think about it like that i like that you know what i mean so as you're talking you know like i just feel like you just got a gift you know you just got like a gift with tv entertainment visuals but i want to know because i feel like like you said you was hustling you had to make a dollar like you wasn't getting booked so your intention was to create something to make it make a living and also to book myself yeah who taught you how to learn who taught me how to learn
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Yeah, like what do you get like?
00:39:10
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What do you mean?
00:39:11
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Like so I know the question is kind of complex.
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I've probably never asked that question before.
00:39:16
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You know, my analytical mind thinks about, you know, people learn different ways.
00:39:20
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You got auditory, you got visual, kinesthetic, like touch, like people can see colors, they can see.
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But like, you know how you can watch something like for me, people always want my feedback, which is great.
00:39:34
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It's like I want their feedback because I didn't get nothing growing up, right?
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So I'm good at it.
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I talk a lot but I'm good at listening so I know how to take direction because I didn't get it growing up.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So for you, dad, your mom, your brother or whoever like, I feel like you know how to figure things out in your unique way and then
00:39:55
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establish your own like a character and put your own twist on it like you directed the music video and you edited and cut it your way but it's like how do you what was your process to doing all that like how did you go about learning how to shoot videos and angles like where did that come from you think it was natural from doing it from doing like i was doing i was doing things so i have to be in the process of doing things so for directing i had to i was directing i didn't know that making my little vine videos was me directing myself
00:40:25
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Oh, and I'm learning how to move the camera around how I want it shot.
00:40:31
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I started with this little phone in my hand, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:35
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And from visual standpoint, I know what I like to see, what looks good to me.
00:40:41
Speaker
Because as a kid, before junior high, I wasn't talking a lot.
00:40:48
Speaker
I watched people.
00:40:50
Speaker
I was, I like to watch people.
00:40:52
Speaker
I like to see how people move.
00:40:53
Speaker
I like to see how people do things.
00:40:55
Speaker
I like to see how people do certain things.
00:40:58
Speaker
Like I, at one point in time as a kid, I thought I was going to be a scientist.
00:41:02
Speaker
That's what I wanted to do.
00:41:03
Speaker
I wanted to be a scientist.
00:41:06
Speaker
I wanted to be an artist who drew, you know what I'm saying?
00:41:08
Speaker
That's it.
00:41:09
Speaker
That's all as a child.
00:41:12
Speaker
Huh?
00:41:12
Speaker
Why a scientist?
00:41:13
Speaker
What came up with that?
00:41:14
Speaker
Dexford's Laboratory.
00:41:16
Speaker
Got it.
00:41:17
Speaker
That dude was doing whatever he wanted.
00:41:19
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I was like, yo, he was making things happen for himself.
00:41:22
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I love Bill Nye the Science Guy.
00:41:24
Speaker
And then you watch your parents, you watch your parents like my dad,
00:41:29
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he was a taxi driver he owned his own taxi business my mom was a nurse she worked several jobs so she was hard working woman my dad worked for himself you know what i'm saying my brother showed me life you know what i'm saying so i was i watched everybody you wouldn't watch it but you had the blueprint of self self-efficient self-doing yeah doing be being efficient and yet going out there and trying things
00:41:58
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you know because look i'm a first generation haitian american bro yeah my parents took a shot on themselves and leaving haiti and moving to massachusetts you feel me and they made it work with five kids so

Cultural Influence and Personal Drive

00:42:15
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so it's like they took a chance on themselves for for us to have a better opportunity now is my time to what you'll call take a chance on myself
00:42:24
Speaker
for every and show there's a different way of doing things is a different possibility.
00:42:29
Speaker
You feel me?
00:42:30
Speaker
Because for my parents, the only way was to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, you know what I'm saying?
00:42:36
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Or any handyman.
00:42:39
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But I had different visions for myself and I went and went and did that thing.
00:42:42
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You know what I'm saying?
00:42:45
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Though my parents really tried to push me into that, this is where I went to because one, I liked it.
00:42:51
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I enjoyed it.
00:42:52
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Two, my brother supported it.
00:42:54
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And I knew that I always had him.
00:42:59
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God rest his soul, he ended up passing away before we got to this point, but he's still on this journey with me.
00:43:02
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You feel me?
00:43:03
Speaker
So it's like having to figure things out myself now and stepping into new roles, but
00:43:14
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watching other people is what got me to show me how to show me how to self-start and get things going by myself you feel me yeah and i think watching being curious and just you just adore bro i just feel like you just do it um it's it's it's great because i always tell people they would you know because people might say they're like who does your instagram or how do you speak so well and like you answer some of my questions that i already knew but you kind of like amplified like
00:43:42
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experience, bro.
00:43:43
Speaker
I used to do so many speaking videos and whatever.
00:43:46
Speaker
Like it was repetition.
00:43:48
Speaker
All of this other skill.
00:43:50
Speaker
And also use a quote that says, it's not what we get out of life is what we become.
00:43:55
Speaker
So that first video, they shelved it.
00:43:57
Speaker
Right.
00:43:58
Speaker
But it wasn't what you got out of what you became.
00:44:01
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You became better than you did another video.
00:44:04
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You know, it is, I just think, man, when we, as people believe in ourselves first and go after what we believe, like we should do things appear, you manifest things.
00:44:14
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You always want it.
00:44:14
Speaker
And people come to help you because they can feel your energy.
00:44:18
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Yeah.
00:44:18
Speaker
Cause they seeing you push, they see you push the car already.
00:44:21
Speaker
You're pushing the whip.
00:44:22
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So if you're already pushing a whip, people are like, damn, all right, cool.
00:44:25
Speaker
Let me help them push the whip a little further.
00:44:27
Speaker
Let me help you get to the next spot.
00:44:28
Speaker
The thing I be telling people when people say, yo, I'm scared, no one believes in me, no one this, no one that.
00:44:35
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I say, look, bro, you got to be the first person to your party.
00:44:40
Speaker
When the door's open, you better be there.
00:44:43
Speaker
You can't wait for someone else to walk through your door first.
00:44:46
Speaker
You got to show up first.
00:44:48
Speaker
You got to set up the lights.
00:44:49
Speaker
You got to make sure everything is set up right.
00:44:52
Speaker
You got to make sure the food, you got to make sure everything is accounted for.
00:44:56
Speaker
And that because you're going to be the first person and you better enjoy your party because you do it.
00:45:01
Speaker
Even if you're there by yourself.
00:45:02
Speaker
If you're even there by yourself, you better enjoy your party because if you're not enjoying your party, no one else is going to enjoy it.
00:45:09
Speaker
Right.
00:45:10
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:13
Speaker
It's your party.
00:45:14
Speaker
You got to enjoy creating what you think you should have, you know?
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah, be the lead of your story.
00:45:20
Speaker
Be the lead.
00:45:22
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:23
Speaker
so you know if you haven't i felt like even before you've done tv and all these amazing things you always have internal success right so you establish you know public success right on a platform how do you go about it what's your mindset to maintain that success i'm not even success momentum it's momentum really how do you how do you go about it how do you think about it i don't i don't um think too much about it i don't even find myself successful yet
00:45:53
Speaker
I'm still working.
00:45:54
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:55
Speaker
Like I'm still working.
00:45:56
Speaker
I haven't been able, when I take a trip, that's when I get to sit back and say, oh, all right, cool, I did some things.
00:46:04
Speaker
But I'm still working through a lot of things.
00:46:07
Speaker
I'm still learning a lot of things.
00:46:08
Speaker
I'm still figuring a lot of things out.
00:46:11
Speaker
And that's why when people ask me advice, I don't want to speak to my experience and things I've done.
00:46:16
Speaker
and me saying how i keep saying yes to myself and yes to a situation um but yeah like the way i continue and keep pushing forward is through doing and constantly doing constantly expanding my knowledge on the things i'm doing as far as like i'm working on and the things i have my hands in you know and also surrounding myself with people who are doing better

Projects and Future Aspirations

00:46:39
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so i can watch them
00:46:41
Speaker
and see how they do it.
00:46:43
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:46:43
Speaker
So I learned, I learned, but I'm still continuing that same process as a kid.
00:46:47
Speaker
Like I'm learning from the people who was doing it before me.
00:46:50
Speaker
I think that's the biggest asset to anything is the relationships you have and you, you build rapport with the people.
00:46:57
Speaker
and learning like really you become your surroundings you know the more you become especially if people are better or that you aspire to be or do it's really simple i just think you said like i feel like you take massive action and you just you follow your gut you go after what you believe in
00:47:14
Speaker
You believe in yourself and you manifest.
00:47:17
Speaker
It's like, this is what I do.
00:47:18
Speaker
Like you said, like, you don't feel like you have success.
00:47:21
Speaker
You just you just move in your journey, trying to get where you want to go.
00:47:24
Speaker
I think that's also a very important, you know, thing to point out is that honestly, when you're not thinking about it like that, that's actually how you get more of it.
00:47:35
Speaker
know even though we all you know at some point want to be reflective and effective and think about our lives and what we've done but it keeps you humble but at the same time it keeps you going because you're like i ain't done anything what have i done but you know a lot of what they see and not what they know and they think everything they see is like the big grand slam but to them it is because you got fans that really love you and you probably inspiring a kid out there that doesn't feel comfortable you know in their skin based on their
00:48:03
Speaker
So it's just big, man.
00:48:05
Speaker
I want to talk about this movie.
00:48:06
Speaker
I didn't even know you did this movie.
00:48:09
Speaker
The Throwback Holiday.
00:48:13
Speaker
Like, they say that it was a fun movie.
00:48:15
Speaker
How did that come out?
00:48:15
Speaker
It was fun, bro.
00:48:17
Speaker
I had a blast.
00:48:17
Speaker
I had a blast on that, man.
00:48:19
Speaker
When it came through, my reps were like, yo, this is a movie.
00:48:24
Speaker
They want you to be in it.
00:48:25
Speaker
They want you to be in the lead.
00:48:26
Speaker
You're going to be in the lead.
00:48:26
Speaker
And I was like, all right, cool.
00:48:28
Speaker
I read the script.
00:48:28
Speaker
I was like, oh, this is fun.
00:48:30
Speaker
This is really, really cool.
00:48:32
Speaker
The thing I was scared of is cutting my beard off because I feel like I look like a baby or a very, very old, old man without my beard, right?
00:48:42
Speaker
So it was funny because like watching it, I was looking at the movie, I was like, oh man, I was like, when I had the beard, I looked like a baby.
00:48:49
Speaker
When I don't have the beard, I look like an adult.
00:48:51
Speaker
And I'm like, this is funny.
00:48:54
Speaker
It's a funny take, but I enjoyed it because it just meant like just taking a chance on yourself.
00:49:01
Speaker
What I liked about the movie is like,
00:49:02
Speaker
taking a chance and don't live without regrets.
00:49:05
Speaker
You feel me?
00:49:06
Speaker
And she had some big regrets that she felt like she didn't move on or things that she didn't do.
00:49:13
Speaker
And she went back in time to try to fix it and try to figure it out.
00:49:16
Speaker
And I was like, this is a really cool, great holiday movie for people.
00:49:21
Speaker
If you feel like you couldn't do something, you had a chance to go back, what would you do different?
00:49:25
Speaker
So it was dope.
00:49:28
Speaker
It was dope.
00:49:28
Speaker
It talked to people on a lot of levels.
00:49:32
Speaker
That's why I liked it a lot.
00:49:33
Speaker
I liked that movie.
00:49:34
Speaker
I had fun on that.
00:49:35
Speaker
Especially when everybody involved.
00:49:37
Speaker
I can see things like, I can see him doing a movie like that.
00:49:40
Speaker
So what's next for you, man?
00:49:41
Speaker
Like what you got going on?
00:49:43
Speaker
What's the future look like?
00:49:46
Speaker
What's tomorrow look like?
00:49:47
Speaker
You know, like what's... Future's looking bright.
00:49:48
Speaker
Tonight it's all about video games.
00:49:50
Speaker
I'm gonna go play Last of Us.
00:49:53
Speaker
that's that's that's what my nights has um future we're looking at series that i have in various stages in development uh most importantly send help that's the one that's gonna really be out there very soon uh huh what's the name send help the project's called send help then help okay so that's the that's the one i have like the teasers and trailers that everything that's out there right now that's on my page
00:50:23
Speaker
And we got some good news coming soon for that.
00:50:26
Speaker
Can't really say nothing.
00:50:29
Speaker
And Basset House Productions, working on that.
00:50:33
Speaker
We're curating a bunch of short films from up-and-coming filmmakers right now.
00:50:38
Speaker
We're focused, we're really focused on BIPOC filmmakers.
00:50:42
Speaker
We're developing merch.
00:50:44
Speaker
We're creating a new launch for the Basset House Apparel.
00:50:47
Speaker
I'm wearing one of the hoodies right now.
00:50:51
Speaker
we were doing a new photo shoot coming up soon um the womby collection and it's all about everybody who was a part of the brand before the brand became a brand um and we got a collection dropping soon soon so stay tuned with that and then revamping and just a rebranding uh basset house apparels and basset house pictures you know that's what we're doing right now so you working on work you working on
00:51:19
Speaker
We're working on work and then we got Insecure and that's coming back soon so we doing all that stuff.
00:51:26
Speaker
Are you still filming Insecure for the last season?
00:51:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's still filming.
00:51:30
Speaker
That's still filming.
00:51:31
Speaker
And I got another project too.
00:51:33
Speaker
Can't really talk about it.
00:51:34
Speaker
It was gonna be on Netflix.
00:51:35
Speaker
It was gonna be lit.
00:51:37
Speaker
I can't really say that.
00:51:39
Speaker
I almost want to show y'all the script because
00:51:42
Speaker
You guys can't see, but like I do, what I do is when I work on a project and I work with people that I love and admire, I get the people to sign my script.
00:51:53
Speaker
So everybody on the job, they sign my script on the job.
00:51:56
Speaker
Like all the little milestones I have like they're around my crib, post up all over the place.
00:52:03
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You know what I'm saying?
00:52:05
Speaker
That's amazing.
00:52:06
Speaker
Hey, man.
00:52:07
Speaker
Well, look, man, this is beautiful, man.
00:52:09
Speaker
I appreciate your authenticity tonight.
00:52:12
Speaker
And man, much more success.
00:52:15
Speaker
If you could just leave the people with some words of motivation or inspiration to anybody out there that might be going through tough

Final Thoughts and Inspiration

00:52:22
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times.
00:52:22
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Some of them might have lost someone recently.
00:52:25
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We got our people in Texas that's going through some things.
00:52:27
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Like anybody that's suffering from anxiety, depression, or just adversity or challenges,
00:52:34
Speaker
from John, from you, what would you, what would be your advice for them to keep going and stay strong as much as they can?
00:52:41
Speaker
Don't stop, it's only temporary.
00:52:44
Speaker
It's don't stop, only temporary.
00:52:46
Speaker
That's what I say.
00:52:47
Speaker
Don't stop.
00:52:49
Speaker
I put these on the hoodies, man.
00:52:50
Speaker
What's going on, man?
00:52:52
Speaker
Don't stop, it's temporary.
00:52:53
Speaker
You're like, come on, man.
00:52:55
Speaker
Yeah, like, it's temporary, man.
00:52:57
Speaker
It's temporary, man.
00:53:01
Speaker
No, that's up, bro.
00:53:03
Speaker
Man, much less.
00:53:05
Speaker
By the way, where can people find you?
00:53:07
Speaker
Let's make sure we get that out.
00:53:08
Speaker
You can find me same name, different app, Jean-Elli.
00:53:12
Speaker
And then if you want to reach Bassett House, you just Bassett House Pick.
00:53:15
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:53:16
Speaker
So you can find it on there.
00:53:17
Speaker
You can find it on my bio.
00:53:20
Speaker
You click the link.
00:53:21
Speaker
The link tree will show you right where it's at.
00:53:24
Speaker
You can reach out to me on there.
00:53:26
Speaker
DM me.
00:53:26
Speaker
I'm here.
00:53:27
Speaker
I'm available.
00:53:28
Speaker
You on Twitter as well?
00:53:29
Speaker
Are you on Twitter?
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, Twitter everything.
00:53:31
Speaker
I'm on Twitter.
00:53:32
Speaker
So everything is Jean-Eli across the board.
00:53:35
Speaker
So Jean-Eli, same name, all the same, all different apps.
00:53:39
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:53:40
Speaker
If you want to be from Basset House, it's Basset House Pick on all apps.
00:53:43
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:53:44
Speaker
All apps.
00:53:45
Speaker
All facts, all facts, all facts.
00:53:53
Speaker
Hey, by the way, for the merch, man, I don't know if you got the same number, but
00:53:58
Speaker
I'm going to get some like right now as soon as we get off.
00:54:00
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:01
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:02
Speaker
Definitely.
00:54:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:02
Speaker
Hit me.
00:54:02
Speaker
Hit my line.
00:54:03
Speaker
Same number.
00:54:04
Speaker
Same number.
00:54:04
Speaker
What part are you in by the way?
00:54:06
Speaker
I'm in downtown.
00:54:07
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:08
Speaker
Bet.
00:54:08
Speaker
All right.
00:54:09
Speaker
Man, it can catch up.
00:54:11
Speaker
I mean, it's good catching up on you here and man, keep winning, keep living, keep earning, keep giving, keep being brother.
00:54:17
Speaker
It's beautiful.
00:54:18
Speaker
Same for you, my nigga.
00:54:19
Speaker
Same for you, bro.
00:54:20
Speaker
I'm so proud of your growth and how you've grown like dog.
00:54:25
Speaker
yeah you're amazing man yeah look at you shiny skin floss what's your skincare routine what's your skincare routine that's wrong regis man i can't do my skin like once a month man i really take care of it so i appreciate it i see that look good yeah you know when you're on me man it's a whole different vibe you know so i'm trying to stay on
00:54:48
Speaker
Much love, man.
00:54:49
Speaker
Thank you.
00:54:50
Speaker
But yeah, let's get up soon.
00:54:51
Speaker
I'm going to hit your phone.
00:54:53
Speaker
I'm going to DM you.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah, hit me.
00:54:55
Speaker
Hit me.
00:54:56
Speaker
You got the same number.
00:54:57
Speaker
Same number.
00:54:58
Speaker
I ain't changing.
00:54:59
Speaker
Same number.
00:54:59
Speaker
Hit me.
00:55:01
Speaker
All right, bro.
00:55:02
Speaker
All right.
00:55:03
Speaker
My God.
00:55:03
Speaker
We got one.
00:55:05
Speaker
That was good.
00:55:06
Speaker
That was good.
00:55:07
Speaker
See, that's the guy that put in a word that didn't cry.
00:55:11
Speaker
Now he's on Insecure, one of the biggest TV shows out there.
00:55:15
Speaker
And he's doing his thing.
00:55:16
Speaker
You know, he was coming up and saying a lot together, you know, basically when we first moved to LA.
00:55:22
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So, yeah.
00:55:25
Speaker
Guys, this was a good talk, good chat with John.
00:55:29
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John, thank you once again.
00:55:31
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This will go up on my page.
00:55:34
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Don't give up, don't stop because the struggle is only temporary.
00:55:36
Speaker
You heard it from the man.
00:55:38
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You know, he said it.
00:55:40
Speaker
I'm just going to repeat it.
00:55:41
Speaker
It's a miracle season.
00:55:42
Speaker
Be great.
00:55:43
Speaker
Love yourself.
00:55:43
Speaker
Be good to yourself.
00:55:45
Speaker
And don't give up.
00:55:47
Speaker
Peace, love, and gratitude.
00:55:48
Speaker
I'm out.
00:55:49
Speaker
See you guys soon.