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251- Paid pro-meat trolls? All aboard: We're off to the Conspirra Sea!

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How do you know you're losing the argument? Perhaps when you've needed to pay folk to lie on social media to help you try and win!

 In this episode of Vegan Talk, we examine an anonymous reddit article, where a user discloses the things that they (and others) were paid to do on behalf of the meat industry (https://plantbasednews.org/news/meat-industry-paid-to-discredit-veganism/). Is this a sign that animal ag is beginning to crumble? Or evidence that animal advocates will always be fighting an unfair fight? Kate, Paul & Ant strap on their tin foil hats and prepare to sail to the very edges of the Conspira Sea!

As ever, we love hearing your views on the topics under discussion (or  anything else!) so do drop us your thoughts via enoughofthefalafel@gmail.com

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Introduction to Vegan Talk

00:00:00
Speaker
Hello everybody. Now, are all vegans conspiracy theorist crackpots? Or is the meat industry genuinely corrupt?
00:00:10
Speaker
Well, I'm Anthony, and for this episode of Vegan Talk, I'm also joined by Paul and Kate, and that is more or less what we are going to be talking about. I think vegans go looking for trouble even when they're not looking for trouble.
00:00:24
Speaker
That's not what pot is used for. Brrr! Brody. Take your lab-grown meat elsewhere. We're not doing that in the state of Florida. Should I call the media and say, hi, sorry.
00:00:35
Speaker
True education. younger generation are getting to know how brutal these practices are. That leaves a lot of pizza delivery companies in problems with things. What is this?
00:00:45
Speaker
What kind of movie is this? It's comedy. Gold, maybe. Any form of social injustice.
00:00:54
Speaker
As long as you don't get the wee brunions with the horns you'll be alright. Does veganism give him superpowers? cannot fly around the city. don't have laser vision.
00:01:05
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don't have laser vision and Hello everyone, it's Kate here with you. absolutely brilliant back with you. This is an episode of Vegan Talk.
00:01:15
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Thank you so much for joining us. Hello everyone, this is Paul. As Kate said, this is Vegan Talk. These are our episodes where we delve into... a a single issue and get all french beret vegan berets on and uh try and try and pretend that we're philosophers uh different to our news week issues and uh yeah obviously we've got loads of these episodes they're timeless so yeah you can delve into any of these and they're really good listen because to you know the The views are usually still relevant in terms of time. So, yeah, check those out as well. Indeed. You're almost entirely right there, Paul. But I do take issue with the the phrase pretend we're philosophers. What are you talking about? We are vegan philosophers. If not that, then what are we? um ah You can you can tell us, listeners. We'll give you the email address at the end of the show, whether you think we're philosophers or not.

Whistleblower's Claims Against Meat Industry

00:02:08
Speaker
Today, we are here to discuss the meat industry, paying people off to discredit veganism online. It's it's a bit of a news article. I came across this when researching for our news show back in December, 2025. And the reason I didn't include it in that week's news show, there's two reasons really. Number one, I thought, well, actually this is quite a chunky article. that like we really want to get into the discussion here. I don't want to just spend five minutes on it, which is what we normally do for our news articles. But also I thought, well, this isn't necessarily news that's so of something that's happened in the last week. It's kind of reporting something that happened
00:02:50
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a little while before and it's a bit spurious of the date time. So that's why we're talking about it on Vegan Talk. We've given you the link in the show notes, but I'm just going to read it out. Very often we'll focus on an article and we'll say, well, you can read it here, but I'm just going to read it. So if you don't like my voice and you'd rather just read it yourself, skip forward about five minutes and you can just read it in your head. But here comes Anthony reading it. So plant-based news, 2nd of December. The author is a Liam Pritchett. The headline whistleblower says the meat industry paid them to discredit veganism online. An anonymous Reddit user claimed that a US-based meat industry trade group paid them to undermine veganism.
00:03:35
Speaker
The article begins, an anonymous person has claimed that the meat industry paid them and others to discredit veganism online. The person revealed this information within an Ask Me Anything post, effectively a virtual real-time Q&A, on Reddit at the end of November, and I'm assuming that's 2025. The anonymous person said that an unspecified US-based meat industry trade group paid them US$17 per hour for a year to go on sites and discredit veganism. They claimed that the meat industry group employed them and others to do this work
00:04:15
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for a year. They said that those hired for the work would make multiple accounts and pretend to be vegans who had bad health outcomes or pretend to be vegans to push the vegan subs to be more extreme and therefore easier to discredit. One of the most notable claims from the Q&A is that approximately half the accounts on certain Reddit subs about this topic are not genuine.
00:04:46
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The person said that the areas on which they focused included aiming to discredit veganism on nutritional grounds, and arguing that some meat production is sustainable. We definitely cherry-picked data and made claims we knew were false, wrote the person. the cro's death The crop deaths issue was a big one. We would embellish the heck out of that because there were no studies that could say one way or another how many mice are in a soy field.
00:05:15
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And most don't think, oh wait, more crops are grown so we can feed animals. The Reddit user claimed that those employed to discredit veganism online used animal rights and environmental arguments, but mostly focused on health. We'd make up some doozies, the person wrote. One particular example, they said, was when someone they worked with claimed that veganism caused him to have OCD and a bunch of people on an unnamed Reddit sub believed it.
00:05:45
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They also said they would attack fake meat over so-called chemical ingredients, tapping into the growing phenomenon of what some scientists call chemophobia. But here's the catch, wrote the person.
00:05:57
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Water is a chemical. We'd find some ingredient that came from mushrooms but had a long name and we'd scare people to death with it. When asked whether the industry is also paying influencers to push all meat diets, for example the widely debunked carnivore diet, and animal foods like bone broth are popular online, the anonymous person said, big time yes.

Whistleblower's Regret and Industry Tactics

00:06:20
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They added they thought vegans were stupid at the point that they took the job,
00:06:25
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but they respect them now, even though they themselves continue to eat meat. When asked about their former colleagues, the person described the group as usually down on our luck people and said that whilst it was fun to troll at first, the job gets old fast.
00:06:43
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When asked if they felt guilty, the poster said, I do, and explained that this feeling was what prompted them to do an anonymous ask me anything, despite the fact that they had signed a non-disclosure agreement.
00:06:59
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When asked how they felt about vegan diets now, the Reddit user said, I think it's probably pretty healthy if you take B12 supplements and eat fruits and vegetables and good protein sources and added, but I'm no expert.
00:07:11
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I just pretended to be one. Within the thread of questions and answers, they cited a 2023 report by The Guardian on Big Beef's climate messaging machine as a prime example of the sector's tactics in practice. Per the article, the industry aims to confuse, defend and downplay the huge environmental footprint of animal products.
00:07:36
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The Reddit user also referenced a recent feature update on X that revealed some of the largest Make America Great Again accounts are based outside of the US, leading some reporters speculating that many are in it for the money.
00:07:53
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It was pretty gross. I knew it. I did it anyway. The pay wasn't worth it, wrote the Reddit user. I signed a non-disclosure agreement as well, so I will only be able to answer questions in general terms. But do warn you, don't believe that everyone is who they say they are online.
00:08:15
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Now, Ladbible's coverage of this story is no longer available. Several social media posts, including this one, and this is linked in the Plant Based News article, little hyperlink, including this one from Karnism Debunked, are also unavailable. The whistleblower has since deleted their Reddit account, but the site archives posts even after people remove their profiles. So you can follow the link in this plant-based news article right at the bottom it says you can see the full thread here so you can see it the last little bit now a report by rooted research collective and the freedom food alliance from earlier this year found that a significant proportion of online information misinformation comes from 53 social media super spreaders.

Social Media Misinformation and Meat Industry

00:09:09
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96% of these super spreaders make money from promoting health misinformation in one way or another.
00:09:16
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Also this year, research by D. Smog found that the PR firm Red Flag was employed by the meat industry to brief journalists, think tanks and influencers to frame the landmark 2019 Eat Lancet report as radical, out of touch and hypocritical.
00:09:36
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Just a few weeks ago, more than 300 industrial agriculture lobbyists participated in this year's COP climate talks, more people than the entire Canadian delegation.
00:09:51
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Raj Patel, a research professor from the University of Texas School, described COP30 as a hostage negotiation. not a climate conference. Agriculture is responsible for up to a third of all human caused emissions. Animal farming in particular is responsible for nearly 60% of food emissions. It is both the leading cause of climate change and the leading cause of food waste.
00:10:20
Speaker
Kate, nice positive story there. What were your initial reactions upon reading that article and just hearing it now briefly? So i have personally, a come I'm sure we all have had had people kind of spamming us and saying ridiculous things about some posts we've shared or written. I've even had it, you know, when I've shared, you know, footage from outside a pig slaughterhouse and people writing ridiculous things. Sometimes I just like leave it, leave their comment hanging because it just sounds stupid, hopefully. But sometimes I will reply just with one thing and then not go back. I just think, no, because these people, they want to engage you in a debate. You can easily get hung up with it. They don't often, you say to them, oh, go and look at this study, go look at that study. And then they'll just come back with something utterly ridiculous. And then you can just be in this loop with them for absolutely ages because they there's no way because they're being paid for it and it and it doesn't surprise me at all that that does not surprise me and because they're being paid for it they are not going to drop it so and there's nothing you can possibly say to them that is going to change their mind so initially i was like well I can believe that ah yeah I've read the thing about red flag before I think the guy there
00:11:47
Speaker
Didn't he didn' any work for the tobacco industry as well? So they're all in cahoots, these hideous industries, aren't they? and And why wouldn't a multi-billion dollar slash pound slash... euro industry want to be protecting its profits which is what this is all about isn't it so yeah thank you kate paul it's not the most uplifting article to read did did you have a similar response to me and in in that you sort of read this and despair of humanity or did it confirm what you already thought about the meat industry or a different take altogether
00:12:26
Speaker
ah yeah To be honest, I mean, I'm i'm very anti-conspiracy theorists, quite laughable in a lot of cases, but this did just confirm what I think more generally, and this is totally outside of veganism and the meat industry. It's just that we have to accept in this day and age, as as we've had before, for years now about other media having an agenda to promote that there will be industries out there who want to protect their product, their industry, um what

Media and Industry Agendas

00:12:54
Speaker
they're doing. um yeah Kate mentioned, obviously, smoking industry, for example. So, yes yeah, not surprised at all. It's what marketing is all about, really, at the end of the day. You know, it's about trying to sell a product. So I'm not surprised, not at all. um
00:13:08
Speaker
And as I say, it's not conspiracy theories in my mind. It's just, if anything, it's just kind of hoping that, people that might be a little bit more trusting or maybe even a bit ignorant about these things that say, look, this this is out there. And it is very difficult, as Kate says, to have ah reasoned arguments with people on social media. um I've actually proactively stepped back a little bit from it these days because, ah as Kate said, you can find yourself going down a whole...
00:13:33
Speaker
with someone who might not even really really be a real person or someone who's just wanting to keep posting. And it's almost like there's a battle for the last word. And you go, do you know what? I've said my piece. Like say, Kate, leave that hanging there. something that's kind of pretty concrete and then then move on really. But as I say, i'm I'm kind of almost... disengaging with it more generally because I think there's so much funded, know, whether it's hate ah as we've seen with like, you know, reform and all things like that, or pro Russia or pro Trump or yeah, any industry is out there and you just have to, you have to take a account of that ultimately. Yes. And i think you've already said this to to an extent, but like my experience of working within a startup company and and knowing other folk who are ah doing similar, but also having friends and and relatives who work inside much bigger companies at the moment, using influencers to promote your product, its values and things like that.
00:14:39
Speaker
that is the rage that is seen as an authentic voice. And, and it's nonsense. Like influencers are paid lots of money to casually say, Oh yeah, I love these shoes. Bloody AM. Yeah. Yeah, like, so why is it a more trusting voice than just NatWest Bank saying, we're really good, bank with us? You know, what why is that any more or less trustworthy than, oh, this person who's got a YouTube account has said it? I know that's not necessarily what this is happening here, but this whole thing of just, oh, look, everyday people. are saying things, it's it's um it's a paradox. And i wonder how long it will last for. I wonder if in 10 years time, it's just a bit of a faux pas to be like, oh, so what of an influencer said it? Like we're we're long past trusting what what they say. um i

Truth in Marketing: Vegan vs Meat Industry

00:15:34
Speaker
have to say my biggest point of contention with this, um and I understand why it might have happened. If we assume that this is completely true, this story, It's a shame that this person, because they've signed a non-disclosure agreement, can't or feels like they can't publish actual things that have been said and reveal their actual name. Because actually, you could very easily read this and say, well, no, this is a vegan plant inside a Reddit thread. And they've made themselves anonymous. And they're saying all these things. And they can't provide actual evidence of it. It wouldn't be too hard to discredit this.
00:16:14
Speaker
I'm not saying I i disbelieve it. i I do believe things like this would happen because, like I say, every every company wants to get everyday folk posting things in favor of your product, your argument, your service or whatever. So I do believe that they've done this. It's just a real shame that it's not...
00:16:34
Speaker
a more cast iron example of it. I think it would be very easy for someone who doesn't like vegans to go, ah you're just doing the same thing. But it's, um, it's ah It's further evidence of what we see on a larger scale within politics and and things like that. Is there a difference between the meat industry paying PR companies to push that message versus a vegan company saying, well we're going to hire a PR company to to say that Oatly is great or have you. what What is the difference? Yes, I think there's a massive difference because only just saying only is great or um highlighting how delicious it is in a coffee or what have you is the truth. Whereas the meat industry putting out a load of fake stuff about, you know, sort of making stuff up about um so-called fake meat, even the term fake meat, you know, is going against the science actually because plant-based meat's are the science has shown that they are actually healthier than animal murdered meat. you know So they are actually out and out lies that is often going against the science. And it is purely to confuse the public. and um And people, when they're confused, are much less likely to change their habits and just stick with what they know. that is big issue.
00:18:10
Speaker
issue it's completely completely wrong and they need to be sued for it to be honest you know you see all these fake ah sorry all these um you know newspaper articles which some of them are just complete lies you know we know we know the newspapers that are the the main culprits for that Who needs suing? They're actually, especially when it comes to the health side of things, they're actually, it's dangerous what they're telling people. It's dangerous what the Trump administration are telling people as well. yeah know i have to say Trump came to mind and that in in a sense, like that the fact that ah a newspaper or a company can just publish lies, like he's doing it from the top, isn't he? Just saying the first thing that comes into his head, say it emphatically enough, keep saying it.
00:19:03
Speaker
And then it kind of, that there are studies on the psychological studies that say it's more important how often you hear something versus how credible it sounds like it's the frequency that you hear it that dictates whether you're likely to believe it or not. yeah there's And that's more important than credibility. Yeah. There's also studies. I've got bit of a psychology background, but there's something called the primary and recency effect.
00:19:28
Speaker
The impact on the the impact that though the order of things happens. And that's that's very important in like court hearings, for example, in terms of whether you're presenting evidence first or second.
00:19:39
Speaker
um So, yeah, some interesting stuff there about about that relating to presentation over content, I guess is what we're saying. was Before we depress everybody listening, I mean, are are there some positives to take from this? i mean, we could could could we argue this is a it's good that the meat industry feels it needs to do this?
00:20:00
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Yeah, if I pick up on that, I'd say yes. if we We've discussed this a few times and on a number of stories. I think that when an industry is being pushed or put into a corner, as we've seen with, you know especially like so with the dairy industry in the States, that's when they come out with their claws out and fighting to protect their sordid interests. So in a way, whilst it's quite ah a difficult,
00:20:27
Speaker
ah It's a battlefield. It's a sort of psychological battlefield, marketing battlefield. It shows, I think, that um the more positive message that we'd support is having an impact. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to do it. you know They've spun their lives for years without any kind of objection. And now they're having to sort of stand up and they're having to they're to pay. So this is money coming out of their

Marketing and Misinformation Across Industries

00:20:50
Speaker
profits. So that's one good thing, but they're to pay to sort of justify the existence of what they do and what they sell. Yeah, absolutely. They're not paying very much though, are they? Well, no, in in this case, no, mean, that's a fair point. I think, I think small fry, if that's not the right phrase at this one, but yeah, I think in bigger, bigger terms, I mean, you get, I think we've had stories before like this in the past, century where you've had like ah the American beef cattle herds, people have done like research and that,
00:21:16
Speaker
You'd think that's going to be costing a bit more money. um I'm not saying it's millions, but bigger bigger industry representations are probably investing more in protecting and promoting the product. i think, if anything, it sort goes side by side with marketing, doesn't it, really? There's almost like a there's almost like a a positive and negative promotion that's needed to, like with politics. and and ah For example, yeah you've got like the look at why we're great and look at why the other people are shit kind of thing. It's the same thing.
00:21:45
Speaker
I think it's actually good news in a funny kind of way, because they're having to pay people to pretend that that they're vegans with fake fake health crises, which is basically it's like them admitting that veganism is actually hard to attack with the facts.
00:22:05
Speaker
And they having to lie to make animal agriculture look reasonable. you know So um i think in that sense, we've already won. And, you know, and it's hard to argue with compassion, isn't it? it's really It really is. You know, because when it comes down to it, the majority as of us are vegan first and foremost for the animals. I have to say, I felt sorry for, by the end of the article, I felt sorry for the folks who were doing this.
00:22:37
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in and and maybe ah Maybe I'm just a bit soft or or whatever, but I thought like of all the ways that one can earn one's money, ye roles in society that are often looked down on, you know, being a ah cleaner person.
00:22:53
Speaker
working on the bin lorries or or things like that. You can look at that job and you can think to yourself, that is making a positive difference. Sure, it's job it's an honest job. Yeah, honest it's it's a job that lot of people don't think they would like to do or they couldn't do or what have you. But you can see the function that it has. Whereas this, being paid,
00:23:15
Speaker
to go online, lie about things. And and what's the net benefit at the end of it? Goodness, what like what a depraved thing to feel like that that's the only way you can earn your money. I mean, it maybe you go into it thinking, oh that's ah that's a cheap and easy thing. I just go online talking shit. But like after a couple of days of that, flipping heck, I can't imagine it does your self-esteem very easily. Well, I think you said kind of agree with you, but I also just think, you know, you're not, unless you're a bit idiotic and I don't think you are to do that because it's, it does take some, it does take some sort manipulative thinking. So you're not stupid. I think you said, you know, selling your soul to the devil and you're happy to do it. Okay. You might have financial problems, but you know, I'm sure all of on here, I've had of job offers before for, Involvement in. you know Weapons testing. Or something like that. And I just look at it more and go. You couldn't ah offer me enough money to to do that. Because i just not I don't want to work in that industry. you know it's ah I'm just not going to touch it and it. And they say everyone's got their price. And maybe they do have. But.
00:24:25
Speaker
I like to think with people who've got good morals and I'm not just saying vegans, they could be anything they hold up high, whether even it's religion or something crazy like that, that they kind of stick to their, stick to their, um, uh, what they believe to be true.

Ethics of Misinformation in Industries

00:24:39
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and if you don't do that and you're quite willing to go and talk shit, like you say, I promote something that even inside you think's wrong. I mean, how would how do you, how do you reconcile you that with yourself at the end of the day? You know, I, I couldn't,
00:24:53
Speaker
Yeah. And and and a again, i an argument that I am increasingly turning to in terms of being against animal agriculture is that of saying, if you want to have that pork chop on your plate,
00:25:10
Speaker
Here is what you are asking another member of our society to do for you. Someone who's got to work in a slaughterhouse on your behalf in order for that pork chop to be on your plate.
00:25:23
Speaker
And again, really, if this is what the meat industry is turning to, that that's again, a thing that you're saying. So in order to have that bacon, or whatever, you're paying an industry to then subcontract out to people who were, I mean, the the writer said themselves, like people who were down on their luck or what have you, people who aren't feeling particularly good about themselves, to go online, be trolls, make shit up.
00:25:49
Speaker
Like that's all, that's all involved to get that on your plate. Like that's, that's not a great chain, is it to be part of? Like, I, I don't think ah the asparagus industry is it's doing that.
00:26:03
Speaker
No, I don't know. Maybe there maybe that'll be next week's vegan talk. I mean, that was, that was interesting because ah that's probably where I'd like to agree with everything Kate did. But I think going back to the early point, I ah do think the difference is that any, anyone paying PR for, um, promoting a view could be as bad as each other.
00:26:26
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it depends what they decide to do with that. there's nothing to stop a vegan organization, putting out some shit or making outrageous claims and, um, Technically, um it's whether they've got the morals to do that or not.
00:26:37
Speaker
And that's that's probably the difference. Maybe that was what you're saying, Kate, but I think there's a potential for them to be equal. It's just down to the individuals that are willing to set the scope of what they want someone else to do for them.
00:26:49
Speaker
the The minute um a vegan organisation steps out of line, though, like Viva producing a a film or something, that it gets the advertising authority steps in and removes it, doesn't it? This is true. And I think that's the thing is that I always think when you're out, even when coming down to if you're going to have a...
00:27:10
Speaker
Debate online, I always think that the thing to do is be absolutely factual and not use generalisations and not say something that you think, oh, I'm pretty sure that's right, because you've you've got to fight with fact as much as possible. Or, as I think Anne was saying, putting out and saying, this isn't fact, but i I personally believe that this is wrong and that's my position on it. So you could have a position that's otherwise, but that's what I'm standing on in terms of this issue.
00:27:37
Speaker
is wrong. but We have to be very clear. Otherwise, um you know, you're going to get shot down. And if it's like, say, if it's a, if it's an organization, then people will be all over them for sure. I think integrity is a really strong, long lasting tool to use.
00:27:55
Speaker
And I understand why, you know, animals are in a state of emergency. They need the best advocacy that we can possibly give them. So I can understand the temptation to exaggerate.
00:28:07
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However, i I don't think that is a long-term strategy. and Totally agree. Pull it apart. And like we saw it in like what the health, there was a bit in there where someone described a change from 5% to 6% that was described as a 20% increase.

Integrity in Vegan Advocacy

00:28:24
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Technically, mathematically, you could describe that that, but like that is misleading and they were they were pulled up on it. What what a needless...
00:28:32
Speaker
thing yeah to be arguing about just just present it as it is like the facts can do their work and you know if you're on the side of good it it will come out in the end you know we we don't need to twist things um slight even slightly i mean we're not even talking to the hyperbolic degree that these these folk were were paid to do but like yeah integrity is important Definitely. and i really like that as well, Paul, about citing the science and stuff. But also after you know a talk we had last week about sharing stories as well and lived experience, I think that's really important as well. There's many diverse vegan stories. We're sharing them on the this January as well. People's going vegan stories and and stories of people whose health has improved, like myself, for example, you know, to counter all this nonsense about people getting sick on a ah vegan diet. Well, if they are, and some people do, and we all get sick, but...
00:29:38
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you know, perhaps they're just eating their chips and um ketchup. so you know, get educated, get educated on as many things as you possibly can in order to not remember everything yourself, but know where to find the facts to come back at people with those, you know. you know, I've got brain like a sieve, but i do know some key places to go and get some some great solid evidence and stuff to share with people. I think that's right. It took me back to the kind of early days of COVID and there were people on the going, or is it maybe the case that vegans can't get COVID because we're like immune? And you're like going, no, just, just don't even go down there. Like, well, vegans can't get cancer. It's just like, just shut up. You're you're making us look like a bunch of dicks. You know, it's like, it's like you, you want people to speak eruditely and correctly. Don't, don't, don't join. Don't race to the bottom with these other idiots. You know, it's like, yeah. Yeah.
00:30:34
Speaker
I think that might be the title of this episode, Paul. Don't be a bunch of dicks. Shut up, you're making us look like a bunch of dicks. I love it.
00:30:47
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Yeah, exactly. So many sound bites, so little time. um Brilliant. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Kate. And thank you everyone listening to this discussion. Like we we hope you found informative, maybe entertaining, hopefully not too depressing with the state of humankind. We're talking about it. We're fighting back. It's okay. We'd love it if you could drop us a little five-star review or whatever style you think is appropriate. Of course, you can like, you can subscribe. i tell you what, I'll pass over to Kate and Carlos and can tell you with some funky music in the background.

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So just a reminder, of everyone, we do really love hearing from listeners. So please do get in touch. Let us know anything that you think is good or bad or anything you've got to raise or comment on in terms of what we've spoken about. So our address is enough of the falafel. That's all one word in the email. at gmail.com.
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We'd also really love to hear from any meat industry funded stooges or anonymous Reddit users. You can same email address, get in touch. We want to hear from you. And I would also like to hear from people who've had the funniest trolling things as well, the the funniest things that people have had say to said to them. That would be great if you could tell us that.
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Please do. Anyway, thank you so much, listeners. um We have another Enough of the Falafel episode coming out.

Episode Conclusion and Listener Appreciation

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and It's available on Monday the 2nd of March and it is another Vegan Week, which is our usual weekly roundup of the latest vegan and animal rights news.
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Anyway, that's enough of the falafel for this episode. Thanks to Kate and Anthony for all your contributions. Thanks again, everyone, for listening. I've been Paul and you've been listening to Vegan Talk from the Enough of the Falafel Collective.
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This has been an Enough of the Falafel production. We're just a normal bunch of everyday vegans putting our voices out there. The show is hosted by Zencaster.
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We use music and special effects by zapsplap.com. And sometimes if you're lucky at the end of an episode, you'll hear a poem by Mr. Dominic Berry. Thanks all for listening and see you next time.
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