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Hello Mum, How You Doing? I’m Turning Into A Cabbage
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Steve and Giles are trying out the concept of "Jazz Podcasting''. Not in the "making a podcast about jazz" way, but in the "improvising on a theme" way.
It all works out swimmingly and we have a lovely time.
Motifs and licks include:
- Pale boys in a dark room
- Steve goes to an Emo gig
- When Giles left part of his brain in a field
- A forgotten feature returns
Featuring music by Marc-o, The Tidmouth Sheds and Johnny Domino.
Check out some links on the blog that accompanies the episode here!
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Podcast artwork by Giles Woodward
Edited by Steve Woodward at PodcastingEditor.com
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Transcript
Humorous Anecdotes and Encounters
00:00:01
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Oh, I was walking round my local store, searching for the 10 pence off Lenore, when suddenly I bumped into this guy. On seeing who it was, I gave a cry.
00:00:12
Speaker
Fucking hell, it's Fred Titmuss.
00:00:37
Speaker
Do you want another Yes, please. Dragging my guitar around maternity ward. I was in search of the umbilical cord, but it was all in vain, so I jumped on a train, and when I reached my home, the kids were on the patio, looking quite upset. So I asked them what was wrong, and they said, Beware.
00:00:56
Speaker
Yes. Welcome to the... There's an Albert Hammond bootleg in the house. Yes, I know. Very good. In there. Yes, stop. I wish I'd not suggested this.
Introducing the Johnny Domino Podcast
00:01:06
Speaker
Welcome to the This Our Johnny Domino podcast, wherein I, Steve, and my brother Giles talk about songs from our musical past, present, and future.
00:01:16
Speaker
Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody. And it's very nice to be back. And what a lovely day it is to be recording a podcast in a darkened room yeah yeah on ah on the most beautiful Saturday afternoon in in Merry England.
00:01:31
Speaker
But the whole thing about having the windows closed and being indoors on a hot summer's day, it's very similar to our musical bonding from our childhood days, where we both had hay fever and we would lock ourselves into the dining room in our parents' house, the coldest room in the house, listen to records and eat a frozen Capri Sun or Capri Sun.
00:01:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's pale as newborn rabbits. Yes. with with With speckly skin, thick glasses. Yes. Trying to hide from any sign of sunlight yeah coming through the window.
00:02:06
Speaker
making little jokes about music, listening to Pixie's albums on the wrong speed and things like that. Yeah. That's us. a But now, look at us. We're like butterflies. We've we've we've we've mutated into this. We're back indoors. Which completely different. Yes, of course.
Half Man Half Biscuit and Musical Cheer
00:02:23
Speaker
Half man, half biscuit. I was thinking, like last episode, we were talking about miserable man syndrome. Yeah. Which we can all relate to, apparently. Yeah. And thinking about things to cheer ourselves up.
00:02:35
Speaker
And there's nothing more cheering to a and ah miserable middle-aged man, I feel, than half man, half biscuit. Well, that was why I suggested it You were feeling quite miserable and feeling a bit poorly.
00:02:47
Speaker
And I said, when was the last time you listened to Back in the DHSS? Yeah. Because the night before I'd had it on and I was singing along to my little heart's content, laughing to all the jokes that I'd heard a million times before.
00:03:00
Speaker
And it did the job. It does do the job. it did do the job. It's very good. it really made me happy. And I've listened to it quite a lot over the last few days. And it's a great thing.
00:03:11
Speaker
The other thing that I really like doing is going onto the Half Man Half Biscuit lyrics project website, which has got all of the lyrics on it, and then discussions about what the lyrics about. Because when you when you're listening to Half Man Half Biscuit, you have to have your phone in your hand.
00:03:27
Speaker
Reminding yourself like what Fred Titmuss looked like. Yeah. And Bob Todd. And various other random people. Peggy Mount. Peggy Mount.
00:03:38
Speaker
When that was that, I laughed my head off. Yeah. But think when we first heard the album, we had no idea who Fred Titmuss was. No, ah I didn't until about 10 minutes ago.
Music for Miserable Men and Comfort Films
00:03:48
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He's a cricketer.
00:03:50
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Yeah. I think I was dad at the time. Yeah. All of the things that cheer you up, Steve, because we we had, we had miserable music by women last time. Yeah. think we should make a part. I think we should make a, what's it? A playlist of, of songs for miserable men.
00:04:06
Speaker
Other things that cheer me up. I don't know. Watching, I caught the end of School of Rock. the other day that cheered me up immensely School of Rock is a film that when you're watching it you don't want it to end know what I mean you know the end is coming yeah yeah kind of you just kind of wish it went on indefinitely it's just a beautiful thing and I only caught the ah basically the battle of the bands the final battle of the bands and it was just amazing Yeah. Loved it.
00:04:35
Speaker
Made me emotional as well. ah Older son was talking to me about Jack Black the other day. I haven't watched the film. He was saying I should watch Pick of Destiny. I haven't seen that one. And he says I should watch 1993 indie movie called Bongwater.
00:04:51
Speaker
ah Jack Blackson as well but I haven't watched him yet so maybe I'll watch them and talk about the next episode that'd be good that'd be good wouldn't it that's the research what other thing have I done this week that's cheered me up beans on toast great beans on toast cheers me up marmite on the bread cheese bit black pepper You could have sausage and bacon on it if it's your birthday.
00:05:15
Speaker
Oh. Oh, that's good. Brown sauce? No. Oh, man, all the time. Brown sauce. Never. Never. Gotta mix that shit up, man. Yeah, all right.
00:05:26
Speaker
What are we going to do today on the podcast? We'll probably talk for fecking hours, talking shy, and then we'll play some music. Yeah? well you got What else do you
Podcast as Jazz: Improvisations and Inspirations
00:05:35
Speaker
want to talk about? cool I've got lots to talk about, but it's all in order.
00:05:38
Speaker
you know i was In order. It's in order, really. It's in order. All right. so This is... Go. Okay, so it's like a jazz, right? We're going to improvise.
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah we with there is a structure to it underlying, There are several themes, you know what I mean? It's almost free jazz, but it's... It's very similar to an album that I bought recently, Ornette Coleman.
00:06:01
Speaker
It's called Friends and Neighbours. It's a live in the room recording. Free jazz, but it's very soulful and kind of blues based. yeah I mean, there's a lot of free playing and Ornette Coleman is playing the violin.
00:06:14
Speaker
don't know if he's ever seen a violin before. He's having a go. And ah it's great. Right. Is that what this podcast is going to be like? It's going to be it's goingnna be free but but tethered slightly.
00:06:25
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. I think we should have a first song for today. Yes. And this is a song by the Johnny Domino Band ah from our four-track recording days.
00:06:36
Speaker
It's a song called The Lie Dream of World Travel. Mm-hmm. I like this one because it was in the middle of quite a few acoustic songs and we were just kind of going, let's do a song like this, let's do a song like this, why don't we do this?
00:06:49
Speaker
Yeah. And yeah I like it. Yeah, and I really, really did practice my drumming for this one. You did very, very well. But also it's another example of the old distortion pedal that you used to have.
00:07:03
Speaker
When you had the pedal on, but the volume on your guitar was down, it picked up European medium wave radio. And they also said that if the government did not comply and
00:07:40
Speaker
You've got to follow that dream now You don't go breaking your legs on the ground below Falling out of the bedroom window is just hazard of following your dream So I set off with a song in my heart Pretty soon the headphones are starting to hurt I'm trying hard to get through I'm trying hard to get through
00:08:08
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It's springtime and I've been walking around
00:08:38
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I'm turning into a cabbage
00:09:34
Speaker
And a lesser spotted Johnny Domino fade-out. Yeah, we don't often do those fade-outs. I wonder how long we went on for. I don't know, man. Yeah, I was joking. It wasn't me drumming. Where was that drum sample from?
00:09:48
Speaker
Right, the thing is, I don't know who it is either. I think... I used to listen to Radio 1 lot when I was doing, you know, GCSEs and things.
00:09:59
Speaker
And I must have... kept it up into this period of our lives. And there used to be like a rock show. and I seem to remember the DJ, whoever it was it was, it might have been Fluff Freeman or Tommy Vance. It wasn't Zane Lowe.
00:10:14
Speaker
No, it wasn't. No, no, no. We're talking... This was recorded in about 1995, 1996. And they used to have like massive mega mix of jingles and soundbites. It kind of went...
00:10:38
Speaker
We who were once two hours are now forevermore three hours.
00:11:09
Speaker
We salute you. and There was like ah and just loads and loads and loads of jingles and bits. I don't just remember, just for some reason, I recorded that drum break.
00:11:20
Speaker
I've got no idea who it is. i think it It sounds a bit like John Bonham, doesn't it? I like the fact that we don't know who it is. That's cool. yeah So it's just off a jingle on the radio. I think so. i mean What I would like to do is I'd like to ask the listeners if they can identify
Listener Engagement and Song Interpretations
00:11:35
Speaker
it. They could let us know.
00:11:45
Speaker
I it's a bit of a, it's a fucked up loop anyway, because I think I must have recorded it and then stopped recording it and recorded it. But it's weird. There you go. It's a mystery.
00:11:56
Speaker
i I would love to know who it was. So would I. You know, that's you on the bass there. Yeah. I think I've got a photo of you playing that bass line. that thinking good You're pulling your guitar face. You definitely they are are the archivist out of the two us, aren't you? Yeah, but you've got all you've got the archive.
00:12:13
Speaker
You know that, don't you? Well, you think I have no idea where it is. You don't want to ever trust me with any stuff. I know that, but we're moving out. have no fucking idea where it is. and So, yeah, anyway, moving on, moving on before you get pissed off.
00:12:27
Speaker
So, like, yeah, I don't know what that song was about. I liked it, though, Steve. yeah I haven't heard it for a long time. I actually liked it a lot more than some of the stuff we've listened to that we did more recently.
00:12:38
Speaker
No, no, stuff that we've listened to on the podcast that I thought was, like, more our good songs. Yeah. I actually thought that was cool. Yeah. that That would have been good to do live. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:49
Speaker
I think I'm trying to do the rock guitar. It sounds a bit John Squire, like second coming Stone Roses. Yeah, a little bit. I have very fond memories of recording it. I don't know what we were trying to do.
00:13:00
Speaker
but yeah that's what i love like man That's what I like about these four-track recordings. We just faff about and just do something. yeah Having fun. Absolutely. What do you think the lyrics are about, man? I think it's about you going on holiday.
00:13:16
Speaker
i think it's about you. so This might not go in the podcast. I think it's about you going on holiday with a series of girlfriends. Yeah. Do you? Yeah, think it is. Just like traveling around with. I don't think it is. Is it don't know. Maybe, I think you, because you're my younger brother, you kind of looked up to me and thought I was cool and had lots of girlfriends. I didn't have loads of girlfriends.
00:13:37
Speaker
ah yeah I think you did have lots of girlfriends. I don't think I necessarily looked up to you. You did look up to me. you did you You still do, but it's okay. ah can handle I can handle that a good level of adoration.
00:13:50
Speaker
But it was like, I think it was more, I don't know. I think the key line is, hello, i mom. How you doing? are you doing? I'm turning into a cabbage. I'm a cabbage or something. Yeah. I thought that was the key line, really. Okay.
00:14:06
Speaker
We'll leave it at that. Maybe the listeners, if they can identify that drum break, can also tell us what they think this song's about. Yeah, that would be nice. Hi, I'm Giles and Stephen's mum.
00:14:19
Speaker
And I don't listen their podcasts. I think they're very silly boys. Steve. Yes, mate. I was talking to Preachy Preach about Kissy Kiss.
00:14:29
Speaker
Oh, did he buy you a soda? you bought me a soda. What else did he try and do? He bought me a soda. He tried to bless me in the parking lot. Yes. Yep, yep.
00:14:41
Speaker
Question. Who is Carol? Who is Carol? I know this is supposed to be a jazz podcast, but I'm struggling to keep up. It's a song for Carol. Fucking hell, mate.
00:14:56
Speaker
Right, yeah. It's a song for Carol. Yeah, we're talking about Bone Machine. for For any children or idiots listening, we're talking about the Pixies Bone Machine right now. Yes. ah For no reason. Who's Carol, Steve?
00:15:09
Speaker
I'm back in that dining room. It's the summer of 1988, 89, and we're just listening to Bone Machine and listening to Surfer Rosa. Yeah. and ah And I don't know. but yeah drop less of them Jack and Carol knows. She's on that record. That'd be good, wouldn't it? I don't know. That'd be good. She's into Japanese fast food, and Charles just dropped her off with a Japanese lover, and they're going to go to the beach all day.
00:15:34
Speaker
And she's pretty when she's unfaithful to him. It's an interesting lyric, isn't it, that one? we used to Apparently, he used to just make noises, playing a guitar, looking in the mirror.
00:15:45
Speaker
Yeah. and eventually, it would just turn into words. i think that I know. I know. i know. i know the story about that. Yeah, yeah. And I always thought it was just it was just singing a load of nonsense. But actually, if I look at the lyrics to Bone Machine now, I can see a narrative thread there, man.
00:16:01
Speaker
Yeah. It's about having a girlfriend who's like cheating on you know yeah and how your relationship with them is rice and beans and horses lard. You know I mean?
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway. It's like automatic writing though, isn't it? You know what mean? the The truth will come out. The truth will come out. That's a bit like what's going on in this podcast, isn't it, really? Let's face it. Yeah, is a bit.
00:16:24
Speaker
Yeah. The truth is coming out. You've been up to anything recently? Oh, well, you know what? I've been to some gigs. Jesus, have you? I've been to some gigs. Well, been to is possibly stretching it for the first
Live-streamed Concerts and Emo Nights
00:16:38
Speaker
one. I purchased a ticket for a live stream of Otaboki Beaver live in Japan on the 17th of April. it started about 11 o'clock in the morning. Yeah.
00:16:48
Speaker
And it was the last gig with their drummer, Cahoe Kiss and she's left the band because she's recently had a baby and ah and they played for like let's think about how short Otavokibiva songs are right they're short they're short they're really short they played for about an hour and a half two hours Jesus that's a lot of songs man though but they were they were fucking great and they're pretty intense songs aren't they they were so good They're an amazing band.
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah, so it was well worth it. that was that So that was a gig that i saw. And then with my daughter and some of her friends, I went to an emo night in Derby. Oh, did you? to an emo night.
00:17:26
Speaker
Four emo bands ah playing at Dubrec in Derby. First time I've been to a gig at Dubrec. And it was good. not brother Obviously not my thing.
00:17:37
Speaker
get book out okay right give Give us the lowdown on the bands. All right. You've got Fist Pump. Yeah. Now, the lead singer was wearing a rugby shirt, right? Yeah. Not exactly emo. Not emo, is it And the bass player, he had a six-string bass, which looked like an ironing board.
00:17:55
Speaker
Yeah. And he was very, very smiley. I mean, he was smiling all the way through the set. Okay. While there were two vocalists, I think, in that band just screaming their heads off.
00:18:07
Speaker
Wow. You know, I mean, they were all very similar, very screamy, Trixie Structures, amazing drummers. All four bands, incredible drummers. Anyway, then there was a band called Sinker. They were a bit more relentless. There was a lot of screaming in them.
00:18:21
Speaker
The other thing that they all did, played lots of film clips in between songs, like bits of film dialogue, which you couldn't actually hear properly. So that was a bit weird. You couldn't actually tell what these quotes were saying.
00:18:33
Speaker
Yeah, Sinker, they were a bit relentlessly screamy. Then there was band called Mesa Verdi. The lead singer was non-binary. They had a female bass player who sang and a female guitarist.
00:18:45
Speaker
They just had a completely different energy. I mean, i don't think it's necessarily because... the mix of genders in the band, the rest of them were all just like boys screaming and stuff. But they were but a lot more interesting, know not not just in a kind of patronizing visual sort of way, just musically more interesting. Then the last band, in it it was a um band called Porcelain Girl and it was the launch for their single.
00:19:09
Speaker
and Weirdly, it was a single, but there were no physical copies of the single. That's just the world we live in these days, I guess. um ah And they were very screamy, very loud, blah, blah, blah. And then in the middle of the set, they hit a bit of a lull and they did loads of ballads. And they reminded me of nothing so much as the band, weirdly from School of Rock, No Vacancy.
00:19:32
Speaker
You know the band who did the song like Forever. The ones who win the Battle the Bunch. They did and the crowd go mental. Yeah. I mean, they weren't dressed like that. There wasn't a guy who had just had like shoulders, sleeves. But the song was a bit like that. Yeah, it was really reminded me of them.
00:19:49
Speaker
then But yeah, it was a good night. and That sounds good. Yeah, and our daughter and her mates were down in the pit, which was a bit heart-stopping at times. Yeah. But they had a great time.
00:20:02
Speaker
Lovely. And my daughter was wearing my Meat Puppets t-shirt. There you go. That would have confused people. Which I was very pleased with. It was a nice choice for her to make. MUSIC PLAYS
00:20:32
Speaker
Prize Turkish delight, full of Eastern promise. Ooh,
00:20:42
Speaker
what an evocative sound. What, that a size panpipe? Beautiful. It is, isn't it? yeah I like a bit of panpipe, actually. in In that, I liked it a lot.
00:20:53
Speaker
took me right back, that did. It's a really weird advert. When you see the visuals, you know, there's a woman lying down with her head on the sand and this guy, I mean, know, they're clearly both white. You know, he's got this massive sword. do they're not They're not of Turkish heritage. Oh, good Lord, no.
00:21:10
Speaker
And um you just imagine that he's going to lop her head off. But no, he he he chops into a bar of Fryer's Turkish Delight Oh, yes, I remember. it's got There's an element of jeopardy in the advert because yeah he's he she's lying on the on the ground. Yeah, yeah.
00:21:27
Speaker
He's standing above her. He's standing above her. He pulls out this big scimitar. Yeah. And then he brings it down and it doesn't chop her. It's like, is he going to chop her at all? Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:38
Speaker
Bloody hell, that's bit weird, actually. It chocks his chocolate in half. And it looks like, it looks actually like it could be really delicious. But then you remember that Turkish Delight tasted like shite.
00:21:49
Speaker
Tasted like perfume, didn't it Awful, like one of those horrible fucking Parma violets. warm dot ice Not nice. Awful. Flowers in chocolate. No, no, no, no, no. Hello, this is Turkey Paul and I love listening to the This R Johnny Domino podcast.
00:22:06
Speaker
On the 90s Darby scene, I just want to be seen, on the 90s Darby scene.
00:22:18
Speaker
Where have you been on the 90s? I'll be seen. I just want to be seen. What musical cuisine? Stephen Jard, are you going to serve today?
Nostalgia and Music Archiving
00:22:32
Speaker
Going back to the previous episode, when we talked about a derby band called the Super Creeps, and we could not get hold of any of their music. Now, I got in touch with Emma from Super Creeps through LinkedIn, which is the most boring social network, but I got in touch with her through that and asked if she got any tapes.
00:22:52
Speaker
mean And now this makes me feel a little bit sick. They had no tapes. Wow. They have no music that they created, which as a hoarder, as the keeper of the keys, the keeper of the archive, makes me feel a little bit sick. So they haven't got any music.
00:23:09
Speaker
Wow. You know, this was just after we had recorded our episode. un know And if you remember, we recorded our interpretation of the super creeps from our fading old man memories. Wow.
00:23:25
Speaker
Speaking of fading old man memories, Old Man Elston has provided us with another interpretation of the super creeps. Oh, well, that's nice.
00:23:54
Speaker
It's got a stylofoam on it. That's right, a stylofoam on it.
00:24:23
Speaker
Is this trip Guantanamo?
00:24:46
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you
00:25:19
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Super creepy.
00:26:05
Speaker
Now, there's a number of things that like about that. yeah yeah I like the fact that he's narrating the process of making the song there, talking about his styrofoam styrofo would be broken. Yeah, styrofoam. It's not made by styrofoam. No, it's broken anyway.
00:26:20
Speaker
no it's it's broken anyway Yeah. I like the way he kind of goes a bit like... Meta, talking about the genre. Yes, I like that. ah That wasn't what I was going to say. I like the way he goes into his ah Sisters of Mercy voice at the end as well. That was quite good. Yeah.
00:26:35
Speaker
Weird vocal effect. I like that a lot. Yeah. Well done, Marco. Well done, Elston. I think you should do some more stuff like that. And I'm enjoying the Super Creeps revival.
00:26:48
Speaker
And yeah we have now got a blank canvas here because nobody has any recordings of this lost Derby band. So if anybody wants to create some more Super Creeps trip-hop noir music, please do go ahead. and yeah Maybe we can get together ah you know an album's worth.
00:27:08
Speaker
That would be kind of amazing. Super Creeps. That would be kind of amazing. Oh, a tribute album. Nice. I like that. That would work, wouldn't it? Yeah, it's about as popular as anything we ever do on the podcast. As we ever do, yeah. like So, yeah.
00:27:23
Speaker
But Marco, um he's a been a very busy man, hasn't recently? He has. Yeah. He's done a lot more than we have recently, that's for sure. We've not been doing much. no um He had some success because in the and the PRF monthly tribute series that we've not talked about for a while on the podcast, but we did go through a phase of being bit obsessed with it, if you remember, a little while back, because Steve was very, very obsessed with trying to win.
00:27:51
Speaker
It's weird. Our interest in it has kind of waned somewhat since we won. Since we did win. We should probably explain. Eurythmics Month. Yeah, we should probably say the PRF tribute is an artist is named at the start of the month and people from around the world who are based around a Facebook group, they submit their versions of songs either by that artist or about that artist or kind of linked in some way. Yeah, to look at that one. At the end of the month.
00:28:18
Speaker
Someone who's voted the winner and they choose the next month's artist. Yeah. Last month was Nico Case. Yeah. And that was a, is it was a longer album than I thought it than it was going to be because I didn't think many people would do with that one. But loads of people submitted stuff in the end. yeah Yeah.
00:28:36
Speaker
But Mark only won, didn't he? He did with his daughter, Martha. And it is genuinely really great song. You know, whenever we talk about Mark on the podcast, I do tend to have a slightly sarcastic tone in my voice sometimes. I don't know where it comes from. I've got a lot love for the guy.
00:28:55
Speaker
lot of love for the guy. He knows that in the band, Johnny Domino, he was the drummer. yeah and this eight He took the role of the drummer. And even when we had a drummer, Marko was still the drummer.
00:29:09
Speaker
yeah And I think he showed admirable restraint and patience over the years, putting up with us being proper snarky and wankers. All right. Okay. Anyway, listen, stop it.
00:29:21
Speaker
I'm going to start being mean about him now. if we can Okay, let's do it. i like I enjoyed this one very much though, Mark. It's very good. It's it's a really excellent little record. I wanted it to go on for longer, to be honest. this That's my only criticism. And Martha got a bloody great voice. Beautiful. So do some more singing, please.
00:30:06
Speaker
Why are the holes of things the ones we make up see?
00:30:25
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I am the spark of this machine, purring like a city bus. Why are the wholesome things the ones we make obscene?
00:30:40
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Well, if your mercy's lost, I have enough for us. Latin words across my heart, symbols of infinity, elements so pure and atomic.
00:31:00
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atomic number My atomic number
00:31:23
Speaker
too short it is too short short man I need more of that have you heard the original I've not been intrigued enough to listen to the original because I've just been intrigued enough because I just think like that phrase I like that phrase yeah I have heard the original it's a bit longer Yeah. um I had a message from Marco about this recording. He says, dada duh da it took an hour when she got in from sixth form. I think he'd he'd heard her playing that song and realised that it was a Nico K song.
00:31:53
Speaker
And he said, she is giddy with delight, but you wouldn't know it. Classic teenager. Well, yeah. Aren't they all? Aren't they all? Yeah. But well done, Marco and Martha. Beautiful. Martha. Martha.
00:32:09
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Or Marthco.
00:32:14
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We're making a podcast in the face of certain doom. This is this, our Johnny Domino. We're brothers, we wear glasses.
00:32:25
Speaker
We've got medical conditions. We've both been alive for a while. We're making a podcast in the face of certain doom.
00:32:38
Speaker
It's time for this, our Johnny Domino. Oh, something like that, anyway. So what have you been doing recently? Not very much, to be honest. But last night I went to a local little cinema and watched an independent documentary called Free Party, A Folk History. Ooh, I want to see 2023 And it chronicles the UK's early 90s free rave scene.
UK Rave Scene Documentary Reflections
00:33:06
Speaker
And it was good, actually. I enjoyed it a lot. ah There was a lot of um really cool footage of people. Dancing like crazy in fields and pulling those classic rave faces.
00:33:19
Speaker
Beautiful. and Which I love. I love watching that stuff. Yeah. Because along with recording obscure bedroom four-track music with my brother... I did actually dabble a little bit in the old rave scene back in the 90s, as you you can probably tell from the state of my brain.
00:33:37
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yeah And it did take me back. It did take me back. It's quite an enjoyable ah documentary, and it's got lots of people talking about their memories, and it really is comprehensive in its overview, going right from the very beginning with the organizations like diy and Spiral Tribe and Circus Warp, all kind of giving their perspectives on on the whole scene. and I didn't really go to any of those kind of like free parties, but I was kind of like in that periphery when all of that stuff started kicking off really. um
00:34:13
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and And did organize some parties with some friends, always ended up getting ripped off by... gangsters and having things closed down but it was a it was fun for a while.
00:34:24
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The thing about the film I thought was the quite telling was that it went on for quite a long time. yeah it's It's an hour and 45 minutes and it could have made a really good hour long film really which I thought it was fairly typical of The people who lived that life, really, because they're like the parties to go on for days, right?
00:34:52
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They didn't know when stop. No. Who needs a party that goes on for four days? Fucking hell. Can you imagine going to a party that goes on four days now? i want I don't want to go to a party. I don't want to go to a rave that goes on until six o'clock in the morning, right?
00:35:05
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And, you know, these people are maximalists, right? They like everything to be big. You know, it was good social history. And it was at a time when there was no mobile phones, you know, and it takes you back. You know, all of the footage was filmed on those, obviously on little VHS cameras and stuff, things like that. And and it was all, everything was...
00:35:25
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Simpler. Much simpler then, in a way. You know, my brother-in-law used to organise free parties, don't you? know And people used to do stuff like that. And I was thinking, what do people do now? You know, you can't... Nobody organises shit like that now, do they? No.
00:35:40
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Too busy working. Too busy working. Too busy, like, influencing each other on the internet. Yeah. You know. Get out there in the field. Get out there in the field and put a party on. Organise some stuff.
00:35:54
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I promise I won't go there. You can keep it for like young people. Yeah. you know what i mean? You don't want 50-year-olds turning up there. No. I mean, I i was watching... the The other thing I thought, final thing about You might have to edit this.
00:36:08
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The final thing about it was watching all these young people dancing in the field and it really in and the visuals really took me back to the times that I had. And I really enjoyed that. But then seeing the people talking about it...
00:36:21
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who you know who are now oh kind of like however many years later it is like is it 40 years or 30 years jesus i don't know lot years later and uh i don't want to think about them like that i want to still see them in the field as they were you know so and and the people in the audience yes i mean they'd all seen things I wasn't sure about the Johnny Domino podcast, but I gave it a chance, and now I think I love it.
00:36:52
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Speaking of old people who've seen too much, we've had a new song from Simon Richardson.
Emotional Impact of Tidmouth Sheds' Music
00:36:59
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Gate Mouth. We have. We have from the Tidmouth Sheds. Yes.
00:37:05
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And the Tidmouth Sheds have started doing some recording and some sessions in the kitchen as a band. I've really enjoyed this and we're going to play some of the songs from this session over the next few episodes, I think.
00:37:20
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And when I first heard it, it took me a little while to get into it because it's very folky. Yeah. It's got a lovely bit of cello on there. You know, on um on BBC Four, when they have those sessions, ah yeah yeah you know, the sort of like the sessions of like people, can't remember what it's called, but like... kind of The Transatlantic Sessions. The Transatlantic Sessions. It's a bit like the Transatlantic Sessions, but the people in it have done a few things, shall we say.
00:38:20
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there?
00:38:31
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Cause all dew left for me
00:38:49
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And does you still wish for something You can't forget Something dear kids do Never have to regret
00:39:24
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Brought to you now
00:39:44
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Let's break that circle and start again You take the floor too high I'll take whatever's left Do follow the water
00:40:44
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But I'm still thinking of me It's just the why it is And the why it has to leave
00:41:16
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Coming from kitchen just on the outskirts of Glasgow, that is the Tidmouth Sheds. And Simon wrote and he said, it's hard to say exactly what Innes is singing as he's singing in his Fair Isle accent, which is quite hard to decipher.
00:41:35
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But he thinks it's almost kind of a love song to tobacco that kind of turns up to being a song about a person or vice versa. So there you go.
00:41:46
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But yeah, they're an interesting lot and they've they've got, I think, three or four different songwriters in the band and they're all kind of like working together and trying to make something that it includes all of their stuff. So it's pretty cool. So I think we'll play some more of their stuff in the coming episodes.
00:42:06
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What did you think? What did I think? It pissed me off, right? It pissed me off because... The first time I listened to it, it genuinely left me breathless.
00:42:21
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And I was pissed off because last episode we were listening to Stars on the Water and that gave me chills. Yeah. And this is another one. And I want our fucking mates to stop being so good at making music.
00:42:35
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Because... Why? I just thought... I just thought it was amazing. Yeah. Oh, I'm glad you liked it, mate. That song, I was listening to it, I was to the kitchen, I was doing the pots, right?
00:42:46
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And i was I was absolutely breathless. It's beautiful. And the first time ah the first time I listened to it, I thought it was incredible. And I do not want them to re-record it. You don't?
00:42:57
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That's perfect. It is lovely. It's perfect recording. You know what I mean? i want it I want other people to hear it. I want to send it to like Gideon Coe or, you know what mean?
00:43:08
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Or Mark Radcliffe, you know. yeah one I think it's an absolutely incredible song. People need to hear that shit. I wish I could go back to the first time I heard it Because, know what I mean? The first time I heard I thought, fucking, this is just, it blew my mind. oh I'm loving the fact that you had such a strong reaction to it, man. that That's cool. yeah That's cool.
00:43:28
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Yeah. ah I think they're definitely sticking with the folk, mildly psychedelic kind of thing he says in his ah is message to me, because they they can't be asked the drummers anymore.
Musical Experimentation and Existential Conversations
00:43:38
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But thinking about maybe including some congas at a later date. I don't know. We'll see what they do. You don't like the I could go out there and play bongos for it. Jesus. Yeah, because she's so good at the bongos.
00:43:52
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No, fuck no. Simon, please, please, if you listen to this, Simon, just don't record that song. It's perfect. It's a perfect recording. yeah Beautiful. The levels are perfect.
00:44:05
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The first time I heard it, I mean, listening to it then on headphones, I was picking up more of the words. But the first time I heard it, I did not know what language he was singing in. And it yeah just hit me. yeah There you go. It absolutely, you know what mean? It hit me in the solar plexus. It hit you. It hit you hard. It it hit me hard. ah yeah So, yeah, please don't do that.
00:44:26
Speaker
The This Art Johnny Domino Podcast. It's got bongos. You know, i think Jim Morrison possibly knew what it was like to be a secondary school teacher in 2026 when he wrote the words, Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain, and all the children are insane waiting for the summer rain.
00:44:48
Speaker
It was all about the rhyming dictionary, wasn't it, Big Jim? Yeah. I've got a poem. in Oh, good. Let's have it. Because we have to. And I'm going to put these together into some sort of book.
00:44:59
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fairly soon which will be more like a pamphlet which I'll send to people you know whether they want it or not yeah I've been working on a sequence of poems about the days of the week I woke up on Monday and I decided i didn't want to go to work.
00:45:18
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So I got in my car and I drove south until I came to the water where I caught a ferry. On the other side, I drove for another day and a half until I got to a tiny fishing village where I found a small room overlooking the sea where I wrote poems and drew pictures while drinking cheap wine and eating mackerel and oysters.
00:45:41
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Until I remembered that I am alive for only the shortest of times. And then I went back to work.
00:45:51
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So it's going well, yeah? Yeah, you know. It's job, isn't it, man? Yeah, man. You gotta to work. Or do you? then maybe we Maybe we could just... How can we make the podcast pay?
00:46:03
Speaker
Jesus. It's weird that you said that about work. Because I remember it was like one morning like the other week, I thought... I why, I just thought, is this really the best idea that humanity's had?
00:46:15
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yeah You know what I mean? It's sort of like you give up your hours to do a job. In the old days, you get paid in a special kind of metal, which has been sort of like knocked, so it has some value, like a monetary value, but it's completely...
00:46:31
Speaker
arbitrary and then it's like special paper now we haven't even got the special paper it's just numbers on a computer screen or on your phone saying this is what you're worth yeah and it's like is this really the best we've got Dude, this is the sort of conversation people were having back in these ah free parties. Yeah. And we're still having it, right? And it's like, you know, I think we've been somewhere along the line we've been tricked here. Been sold a pop.
00:47:00
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We have. there's got there's gotta to be There's got to be another way of doing stuff, surely, right? We'd have thought so You know, we think we're so fucking clever, but this is the best we've got. Look out the window.
00:47:12
Speaker
um Just move your blind to the side for a minute. Yeah. It's lovely out there. Not bad, is it? You know, there's like nice clouds in the sky. There's a bit of wind moving the trees. There's a bird in the sky there that can see there.
00:47:26
Speaker
Beautiful. You're like a ah gigantic crow. What's going on? None of your business. Rack off. Here's another song by Johnny Domino. It's a very, very short song.
00:47:39
Speaker
You see, this is the thing that pissed me off about that Tidmouth Shed song. It's like I always wanted to write music that sort of hit people emotionally. But all the stuff that I made was kind of not silly, but trying on different hats and stuff. And this is another hat that we're trying on.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah, well, you know, Steve, you can still make music, man. You're talking about like all the music I made, right?
Creative Inspirations and Musical Influences
00:48:02
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Yes. You can still make music.
00:48:05
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Right? Simon is older than you. Tidmouth Sheds, older than you. Right? And they're making the music that you think sounds amazing. Right? Yes.
00:48:17
Speaker
Stop talking about like, oh, you know, oh the music that I made. Make some fucking music, man. You can make some music.
00:48:28
Speaker
Okay. Anyway, this is something that we made a while back and it's pretty good. And it's called... Mouse Attack.
00:48:41
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Mouse Attack
00:48:54
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The good times that I watched you have and have I still got your autograph? Well, I've been waiting long time and now my time has come.
00:49:46
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The smell of success, the smell of money, the smell of a land of milk and honey. I'm right where I have planned to be. Country road, take me home to the place that I belong.
00:50:04
Speaker
No effect like Iron Eon Ricky Lake No effect like Bon Jovi You have no effect on me Fake and virtual ecstasy
00:50:33
Speaker
I thought that was fucking great. There you go. Don't need to say any more about it It was fucking great. And that was us. I've got a question for you. What's your problem Ricky Lake? but I don't know. I had a bit of a crush on Ricky Lake to be fair. irony irony on Ricky Lake, I yeah suppose.
00:50:49
Speaker
Made those lyrics up like in three minutes. Well, that was, I think it was officially a Jimmy Dorito song. So that was the thing where we just write some music. But think I must have written that music in advance because there's quite a lot going on.
00:51:02
Speaker
Yeah. This episode, we've featured two old Johnny Domino songs that in an alternate universe should have been songs that we played live and probably people would have kind of quite liked. But they weren't. They were just songs that we just made up on the 4-track.
00:51:18
Speaker
Anyway, there you go. ah Look, here's a challenge for you. right I want you to, I'm going to sing something. Yeah. And then when you're editing the podcast, I want you to put some music behind it.
00:51:30
Speaker
Okay. You ready? This going to be a new jingle. Okay. Are you ready for this? Yeah, go for it. so i'm I'm looking forward to the beautiful sounds that you're to put behind it. Okay. It's a time capsule of Generation X Attitude It's to this
00:52:08
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Odcab
00:52:13
Speaker
I really like the music you put behind that. That was cool, man. Thanks. Yeah. That's quite the challenge. Here we are. Yes. At the cusp of the end of another podcast.
00:52:27
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It's been a journey. I think we're we're all a bit wiser. I think so. I think we've all grown a little in some ways after this episode. Yeah. I've been educating myself some more.
00:52:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You know remember ah last episode I was talking about the ah the BBC podcast about Indie Sleaze. Oh, yeah. How it's that educating me. And just so that the um listeners don't have to, I've been educating myself about bands that I knew nothing about.
00:52:58
Speaker
Like the one this week in this feature is The Quartoneers. Yeah. Is that how you say it? The Courtineers. The Courtineers are a band that were started in 2008, British band, and they are a band that I completely missed the relevance of, but I've just started listening to them.
00:53:23
Speaker
And the key text of the Courtineers is a song called Not 19 Forever. Yeah. which sounds, so you don't have to listen to it, listeners, a bit like The Wedding Present, but not as good.
00:53:36
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And the lyrics are kind of like Old Man by Neil Young, but about an older woman. yeah I think they're called the Cortinas.
00:53:48
Speaker
Cortineers. The Cortinas. the two I call them the Cortineers. Oh, that's nice. That's very... That's lovely, but I think it's definitely the Cortinas. Yeah. Anyway, she had to peel me off the pavement, trying to insinuate, sometimes I'm in danger of going too far.
00:54:09
Speaker
So she said, i would like to go for tea and toast. Oh God. Get your hand off my thigh. In the car, she turned to me and said, you're not 19 forever.
00:54:20
Speaker
Pull yourself together. It's very of its moment, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So they go you don't have to listen to that anymore. Good. Cortinillas. Cortinas. Make a twat.
00:54:32
Speaker
brilliant it is yeah Anyway, ah I'll do another band next next month. and ah Just to finish off the podcast, let's revisit some old features.
Revisiting Old Features and Exploring New Music Projects
00:54:42
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oh Yes, I was waiting a moment to interrupt you. Yeah, lo let's revisit some old features. Yes.
00:54:48
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Shall we do um why the um song I Love l a by Randy Newman is the best song ever? Shall do that one? No. No, which ah because that was a good feature. It was a good feature, but isn't it still is the best song ever. Really? Should we do songs that sound like ween but aren't ween?
00:55:08
Speaker
Well, that's what I've got planned because it's not just a song. It's an artist that sounds like ween. Okay. And it's coming from like a quite a weird parallel universe. Yeah.
00:55:19
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You're aware of the television programme Stranger to Things, aren't you, Jarcos? I have, yeah, have, yeah. You're aware of I've watched some of it. Yeah. watched some of it. Well, Steve the Hare Harrington is played by a man called Joe Keery. Yeah, he's got a band.
00:55:34
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It's basically him. Like, a lot of it is just him. He plays all the instruments. He's as one of those sickeningly talented people who can act and makes interesting choices about films as well. We'll talk about those maybe.
00:55:46
Speaker
um and But, yeah, he's got four albums out currently. My daughter really likes his stuff, so I've heard a lot of it. But I'm going to play you a little bit of a montage of some of his songs. and Yeah? Saying it sounds a little bit like the band Ween. I'm pretty sure you hear the Ween.
00:56:04
Speaker
It's not necessarily pure guava. I think it's probably White Pepper era or Quebec, that kind of thing. But just see what you think.
00:56:33
Speaker
Now that's a song called... Beato, that, innit? Yeah, it's song called Tentpole Shangri-La. Wow.
00:57:00
Speaker
Yeah, it's wild. It's my new... money Oh, wow, there's more. This one sounds like Dennis Wilson.
00:57:22
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I cannot dream This one's not for me I'm staying alive
00:57:47
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I don't know. Now, this one is possibly the most wean-like. Okay. Stay with it.
00:58:30
Speaker
Okay, I get it. You know I mean? it' It's mad, isn't it? All right. you know So what's the name of this artist again? It goes by the name of Joe, which is spelt D-J-O, and it's Joe Keery from Stranger Things.
00:58:45
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Genuinely, Steve. Yeah. Revelatory, that was. That's in it it's possibly my new favourite artist that sounds a bit like Ween. Explore, by all means. Definitely. I can say my daughter's obsessed and she's got a good taste.
00:59:02
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yeah and so I was a little bit suspicious at first because you think just some actor dude wants to be a musician. But he's got the chops. Yeah, very good.
00:59:14
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Anyway, we've been back that's about us done for today. I think it is. We're going to do some more music soon, aren't we? Yes, we are. We're going to record something this month, aren't we? Yes, we are. What, for the PRF? I think we are. Yeah, but just, I mean, it will be ostensibly for the PRF Monthly Tribute Series, but I think it will be part of the Johnny Domino canon. Absolutely. It's all canon.
00:59:37
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So looking forward to that. and' here Next episode, I will be a married man. Wow. Yeah. So that's happening. Exciting.
00:59:48
Speaker
Yeah. very Exciting times. Very. really So I'll see you the wedding. Hopefully. Are you talking to me or the listeners? and none but not Not the listeners. I'll see you, Steve. I'm talking to you. Okay.
01:00:01
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01:00:41
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