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Born To Smile
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Good times and good vibes with brothers Giles and Steve.
Listen in open-mouthed wonder as they…
- Listen to happy songs about terrible things
- Fail to win the monthly PRF Tribute Series (again)
- Experience drummer envy
- Wonder what Californians have for tea?
Featuring music by Boyscout, Hench, and Tricycle Popstar. Plus poetry, reviews, and health updates. What more could you ever want from a wilfully niche music podcast?
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Theme
00:00:00
Speaker
I've got you under my skin. I've got you deep in the heart of me. So deep in my heart that you're really a part of me. I've got you under my skin. I tried so not to give in. I said to myself, this affair never will go so well.
00:00:12
Speaker
But why should I try to resist when, baby, I know so well? I've got you under my skin. I sacrifice anything come what may for the sake of having you near. In spite of the warning voice that comes in the night and repeats, repeats in my ear.
00:00:25
Speaker
Don't you know, little fool, you never can win. Use your mentality, wake up to reality. But each time I do, the thought of you makes me stop before I begin. Because I've got you under my skin. took.
00:01:10
Speaker
And welcome to the This Our Johnny Domino podcast. A light-hearted, entertaining and insightful podcast featuring two brothers talking about music, what they did record ah while ago.
00:01:24
Speaker
Yeah. He is Stephen. And he is Giles. Hello. And that was slinky, man. Thank you. Slinky. I liked your performance poetry. it was very angry. It was very aggressive.
00:01:38
Speaker
Yet romantic. That's for. I was just trying to get people's attention. Yes. But here we are back again with more entertainment for free. Yes. yeah Free entertainment. You know, if if anyone wants to pay for it, then I'd be down with that.
00:01:51
Speaker
How do you feel? yeah i I, yeah, well, yeah. yeah Could do with the money, to be honest. Yeah. But yeah, and we're just going to talk about some music and stuff.
00:02:02
Speaker
Music and stuff, some of which we have recorded and some of which we have not recorded. Yeah. And, you know, if you're a new listener, then it started off with us basically listening to old songs that we recorded.
00:02:17
Speaker
But it's kind of diversifying a little bit these days. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah, we're still listening to old songs that we recorded. and we also talk about new songs that we've recorded and songs that were recorded by other people who are not us.
00:02:31
Speaker
Revolutionary. Yes. Yeah. We did See You Tube recently. I know, it's freaky, wasn't it, in real life? Because we're not this we don't see each other when we're doing this. I was thinking the other day, actually, we need to start doing this by video because I need to see your face, man.
00:02:45
Speaker
Okay. It would be nice to see your face when we're recording this. I can't really tell what you're thinking. I'm usually just squinting at you. I know. Trying to figure out where you're going.
00:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I'll take a picture of me and myself and I'll send to you. No, but I need to see the real-time reactions. It's usually just me squinting at you, being a bit confused. Yeah, it's just maybe that kind of like look of sort of confusion and yeah slight anger might put me off. I don't know. Yeah, simmering rage.
00:03:13
Speaker
Anyway, we did see each other recently. Yes. um We went out, didn't we? We went to see the beta band. Or the beta band. and Or the beta band. at Rock City the other day.
Beta Band Concert Review
00:03:25
Speaker
Yeah. And what did you think of it? thought it was good. Yeah. Unfortunately, we have spoken about this and we're on the same sort of page that the best stuff that they did was on the 3DPs.
00:03:37
Speaker
Definitely. Wasn't it? The first stuff that you heard of them with Dry the Rain and In a Meet Me and all that stuff. Yeah. that was That was the stuff that still sounds good. Yeah. And when they kicked in into Dry the Rain, it was like, Yes.
00:03:52
Speaker
Yeah, it was pretty epic. The main thing I thought was they are such a strange band to have done so well on the kind of the reunion circuit.
00:04:06
Speaker
we Yeah, because this is like, it was like their third gig, wasn't it? On this tour that we saw them at, at Nottingham. It sold out. Yeah, it sold out. And rightly so, they've done some good stuff and they're a good band.
00:04:19
Speaker
Yeah. bor You know, I had a few problems with it. I don't know. found it a bit boring at times. and I have to admit, it did go on a bit, some of the songs. But then they've always been that kind of a band. A jam band. And... Bongos.
00:04:32
Speaker
Yep. got of bongos. Yeah. The This Are Johnny Domino podcast. It's got bongos. But I think the use of bongos was perhaps... Just solo bongos, man. I'm not into just bongos for the sake of it.
00:04:47
Speaker
Just bongos going... yeah And also the the old sort of swapping instruments thing. yeah What do you feel about that? I don't know what I feel about that. I think they shouldn't let the drummer play guitar. Oh, I got that bit when he played the guitar was bloody awful. Is it good to let the drummer play guitar? That's very drummerist. Sorry, I'll stop. No, because our friend Brian slash Jock, who we're going to hear from,
00:05:10
Speaker
on this episode, um you know, great guitarist, great drummer. e Okay? He can do both. It's not impossible. You know, Dave Grohl should only drum.
00:05:21
Speaker
personally speaking. yeah That's my opinion. But, you know, he can play the guitar as well. But yeah, when the beta band... I think just go with beta.
00:05:34
Speaker
Beta. Beta. Beta. Just call the whole thing off. Okay, I'm just going to call him... When the tomato band were playing near the other night, that was awful, that bit when he played the guitar.
00:05:46
Speaker
Yeah, and it just seems a bit ridiculous like swapping. Because, you know, the bass player is a good bass player. The guitarist is a good guitar. Well, he did do some other fiddly things. He's doing bongos on one song. Probably they're all bongos. It's just like, you know, just stick to the thing that you're good at, you know. But I did think, though...
00:06:04
Speaker
Johnny Domino, when we started out, we were a bedroom recording project and occasionally we'd get friends in to help us out. And I was watching
90s Music Reflections
00:06:12
Speaker
the beatabound and thinking, we could have done that.
00:06:15
Speaker
You know, we could have had lots of guitars and lots of people in life. We could have got, you know, Albert on the bass and maybe Rob could have, you know, played a bit of guitar to do some of the extra guitar bits. yeah And then could you could have played the drums and then Jock could have played the guitar. And then you could have played a bit guitar.
00:06:32
Speaker
yeah We could have all swapped it around, but it just wasn't It wasn't an option for us, but I mean, I don't think anyone was hankering for us to play live anyway. But we could have done it.
00:06:43
Speaker
Yeah, look, right, my review of the gig that we saw might sound a bit lukewarm. I guess it is. The fact is, though, right, I would kill to be in the beta band.
00:06:55
Speaker
you know what I mean? That would be a band that I would want to be in. And certainly when they were out, you know, with their first EPs and stuff, I wanted to be in that band. But we are not that band.
00:07:07
Speaker
No, we are not. no are not that band. we, you know, this i don't know what I was going to say. ahve I've lost my throat. I mean, the thing I thought, I thought there were a lot of people in that audience who... grey hair and glasses. of what but I mean, that's a given for every band you go and see at the moment. For the sixth music audience, that was that crowd. But I think there were some people who had, in a euphemistic way, had seen things in their youth.
00:07:33
Speaker
In youth? in a kind of chemically induced seeing things sort way. And now they worked in education and they were all at that gig, especially the group of like four or five people that were dancing in front of where we were.
00:07:47
Speaker
oh yeah. Yeah. That was a staff night out. Yeah, it was a staff night out. There was a lady in front of us as well, and she was like... She's a geography teacher. Yeah, but yeah yes but she was clearly... But she was raving to the pre-gig walk-on music, which was David Bowie's Memories of a Free Festival.
00:08:07
Speaker
Oh, yeah. yeah she was out She was like raving to it. i thought good It's good to see people go going for it. She's not on one for a few years, but she's let it go on a Tuesday night in Nottingham.
00:08:18
Speaker
I think she'd had a few... A few shandies. few veras or whatever, yeah. Hi, I'm Giles and Stephen's mum, and I don't listen to their podcasts.
00:08:30
Speaker
I think they're very silly boys. You went to see a film, did you? You went to see a film as well,
Thoughts on Spinal Tap Sequel
00:08:36
Speaker
didn't you? Well, that was recently. I went to see um the Spinal Tap sequel.
00:08:42
Speaker
The end continues. And um I was very nervous. I was very worried in advance because This Is Spinal Tap is a film which has meant a great deal to me and brought me many, many hours of joy.
00:08:56
Speaker
And those people in that film, I've got a lot of goodwill stored for those people. And that that I was hoping that that wasn't going to be the only thing that carried me through the sequel.
00:09:07
Speaker
Dude, look, I'm sorry, got to pause you there. Yeah. With that preamble to you talking about this film, yes it's only going to end in disappointment. I'm sorry. I know exactly what you mean. And when they start talking about all these people doing guest spots and cameos, and you've got Elton John with his little piddly little fingers hammering away at the piano, and you've got Paul McCartney rocking up, doing some stuff. yeah That's kind of thought, oh, this cannot be good.
00:09:33
Speaker
Yeah. and I'm pleased to say ah really enjoyed it. And the bit with Elton John was really great. And the bit with Paul McCartney was really funny as well.
00:09:45
Speaker
And, you know, there were some bits that didn't quite work. And, you know, obviously they're they're great at being tap. And some of the people who were obviously really pleased to be in the Spiral Tap film weren't quite as good as the tap boys at improvising.
00:10:01
Speaker
And some bits, you know, some bits worked, some bits didn't work. But on the whole, I just left with a really, really good feeling. It's time for the This Art Johnny Domino podcast, time for some very obscure music.
00:10:18
Speaker
Jad Giles and Steve will probably part you about something pointless, oh yeah. I found a CD. Yes, you did. found a CD, Steve, and I've given it you.
00:10:31
Speaker
and Yes. I found it at the bottom of a pile of CDs in the attic of our parents. Wowzers. It's a very weird little CD. It's like a little mini CD. It's a three-inch CD. Three-inch CD. It's strange. Very strange.
00:10:47
Speaker
And it's got the band Bulldozer Crash on it, which features our friend, Mr. Mark Elston, the elk of this, our Jolly Domino, and Liberty Ship and other bands, and Bulldozer Crash.
00:11:02
Speaker
And we're not going to play that song, Bulldozer Crash, but we are going to play a song by another band that was on the CD called Tricycle Popstar, which was, ah for me, ah standout track.
00:11:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:23
Speaker
I've put my heart into the decision For everyone Under the sun Light match and say bye bye Could you understand my freshly pain At the time of combustion Could you understand
00:11:48
Speaker
As the time of combustion Goodbye everyone Under the sun I will put my heart into the decision Goodbye everyone Under the sun Light a match and say bye bye Light a match and say bye bye
Rediscovering Tricycle Popstar
00:12:17
Speaker
Rewind, rewind. Put that on again. Put that on again. It's short enough. Let's do something again. So this song
00:12:29
Speaker
is singing about self-immolation.
00:12:34
Speaker
It's true. It's true. And it's so jaunty.
00:12:47
Speaker
Well, he's put a lot of thought into it and he's quite happy with the decision, I think.
00:12:54
Speaker
Boink? That's such a good... Good use of a boink. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:18
Speaker
There you go. Yes. Lighter matching say bye-bye. Do we know anything about Tricycle Popstar at all? If I'd had time, I would have looked it up. But look, um if I find anything out, I will insert it in a kind of squealy feedback sort of way. we play play the the other song by Tricycle Popstar in the future and you can tell us all about it yeah but do your research because the other song is quite good as well but that that definitely stands out for me it's brilliant could you understand my fleshly pain at the time of combustion
00:13:51
Speaker
so mercy He sounds so happy about the fact that he's going to set himself on fire. It's fabulous. He's thought about it a lot. And while we were doing that, I accidentally played a song that was going to play for you.
00:14:04
Speaker
because Can I just say the before you did before you get into that, I just want to say one thing, very important. Blind Freddy could say that that was a good song, right? Blind Freddy could see that she was just using Emma. Oh Chloe, come off it.
00:14:19
Speaker
Blind Freddy could see that you're still in love with him. Well, I reckon Blind Freddy could see she played rings around the other girl. Well, assuming Blind Freddy wasn't deaf, I suppose he could. It's about time Blind Freddy could see you were meant to be together.
00:14:31
Speaker
Oh, come on now. Blind Freddy could see how much time you two have been spending together lately. And it might be easier if Blind Freddy didn't see so much of us hanging out together, right? What do you mean, what do I think? There's nothing to think. They're ruined. Blind Freddy can see that.
00:14:45
Speaker
Blind Freddy. Yeah, but when I first heard that, when you brought it around the other day, it reminded me of, I used to make little tapes for people when I was at college and school and stuff like that.
00:14:56
Speaker
And i used to fill it up with dialogue from TV programs and films. And I also used to go into ah dad's collection of seven inch singles. And I used to kind of look through and think, well, that's a stupid song title.
00:15:10
Speaker
I'll put that on. And that which use I'd use that to fill the tape after... putting bloody His Name is Alive and Cody and all these jolly hits of of the past. And I found one which I thought, that's amazing. That sounds like one of those death discs that the BBC used to try and ban Things like Leader of the Pack and Tell Laura I Love him and Johnny Remember Me, all that kind of stuff. What was it called?
00:15:34
Speaker
Well, it called Goodbye Cruel World. And you know what I mean? I thought, this is brilliant. And it and it starts with like a Marshall drumbeat. You think, oh man, he's going to the gallows.
00:15:46
Speaker
Yeah. Oh. Nice. Oh. Oh.
00:16:15
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, so it doesn't quite fulfil the brief of of a death disc. Well, no, because he's not, he's saying goodbye, it's bit misleading really, because he's not saying goodbye to the world, he's going to join the circus. Who's who's that by? That's by James Darren.
00:16:30
Speaker
Oh. Yes. but James Darren? Yes, D-A-R-E-N. Not Bobby, bob is he related to Bobby Darren? No, because that's D-A-R-I-N, I think.
00:16:41
Speaker
i mean, you know, it's like dad's collection of seven-inch singles. There are some absolute stinkers in there. Butts and belters and that, you know, Goodbye, Cruel World is is a bit of a classic.
00:16:52
Speaker
so Yeah. So, yeah, it's, again, another jaunty song about not so much ending your life in that case, but, you know, drawing a line under things. Yeah. You know, he's not setting himself alight.
00:17:03
Speaker
Yeah. But the first time I heard it, I i was slightly disappointed when the circus did did dick a dicky did it came in. I thought, well, that's not what I was after. Yeah, well, I think it's exactly what we need.
00:17:15
Speaker
yeah and I'm going to listen to the whole thing after the podcast. It's a cracker. Right. We've got to get into the PRF Tribute Series. You know what? We need a jingle for this because we keep talking about it.
00:17:30
Speaker
The PRF Tribute Series is a Facebook group where every month an artist is chosen and everybody within the Facebook group and attempts a song which is either a version of that artist's song or it could be something about them or some kind of tangential sort of way related to said artist.
Introducing the PRF Tribute Series
00:17:52
Speaker
And in September, the artist was Canadian hardcore industrial artist disco type band skinny puppy. a and And we were scratching our heads, weren't we?
00:18:06
Speaker
We were. Collectively, really, because that' just not they're just not very good, are they? No one had heard them, really. Well, obviously some people have because they're well known, but in some circles, I guess, but...
00:18:20
Speaker
To me, it was that it was an unknown thing, and and I'm going to keep it unknown because I didn't didn't really like it very much. Yeah, what you heard was not good. No, but we did put something together, which is not a skinny puppy song.
00:18:34
Speaker
It's just about a skinny puppy.
00:19:09
Speaker
And now he's a skinny dog.
00:19:17
Speaker
He likes to cut out the ass. Hey, a skinny puppy. And now he's a skinny dog.
00:19:47
Speaker
On occasions he will share joy. Look at
00:20:30
Speaker
And now he's a skinny dog. He's got the rhythm of the week. And he knows when not to speak. He's a skinny puppy.
00:20:41
Speaker
Inside a skinny dog. He was a skinny puppy.
00:21:02
Speaker
He's a skinny dog He's scratched up all his records But CDs he can't afford Just a skinny puppy And now he's a skinny dog
00:21:29
Speaker
the skinny puppy
00:21:55
Speaker
do I smile at people I'd much rather
00:22:54
Speaker
That is He Was a Skinny Puppy by Johnny Domino, featuring the fantastic trumpet playing of Mr. Frankie Machine. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:05
Speaker
Well, I enjoyed it, even though i didn't have a dry martini in my hand. Didn't win, though, did it, Steve? course it didn't. course it didn't. I mean, you know, wasn't really... You're sounding resigned now, aren't you? No, it's... Well, look, you know... The resignation sets in.
00:23:20
Speaker
It is literally all about the taking part, isn't It's giving you creativity a bit of a boot up the arse. Yeah, but I want to win, man. I'd love to win, but you know. We're not going to win doing stuff like that, are we? No.
00:23:31
Speaker
Everyone else did quite serious, electronic sounding stuff that sounded a bit like skinny puppy. Well, yeah, and you know the Derby contingent was was pretty quiet, wasn't it? you know It was only us and Ian but having an attempt at it, and his was a piece of industrial music, which was all about the fact that Skinny Puppy at one point sued the American government for using Skinny Puppy's music to torture people with.
00:23:59
Speaker
And they sued them for kind of, I don't if it's like performance rights or just for the very idea that they were being used as a weapon of torture. I wonder if they still use that.
00:24:12
Speaker
I don't know. What I've heard of Skinny Puppy, it's not really that. It's not all that. If you want to go something which is really hard and heavy, some of it just sounds a little bit disco.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah. But, you I haven't gone that far into it, so I don't know. I'm happy to leave them behind, really. Yep. This month, the upcoming month. Oh, yeah. Is... um Beyonce. has been Is Beyonce. So, got to do something with Beyonce next.
00:24:39
Speaker
Yes. Which is going to be ah interesting. interesting there's a bit more to go on. Yeah. Let's be honest. We like Beyonce more than Skinny Puppy. Probably. I've got a poem.
00:24:53
Speaker
Go for it. um I've just realised this is a poem. it It kind of relates to Beyonce because it's called A Message from Destiny's Man.
00:25:04
Speaker
Ah. Not Destiny's Child. I've had some good news recently, actually. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, i've got ah something really good. I got the Frankie Goes to Hollywood album back.
00:25:18
Speaker
Yes. And that's really good because it's been 40 years. Right. well Since we bought this album. Together, yes. And you've had it.
00:25:29
Speaker
So it's my time for the timeshare. I've got it in front of me. I'm holding it in my hands. I'm looking at the weird pictures of animals having sex. Yeah. And I haven't played it yet, but I just wanted to let everyone know the good news there.
00:25:43
Speaker
Can I just say, you haven't played it yet. Shocker. ah Can't believe you haven't played it yet. Yeah, well, I'm very happy i'm just happy to have it back, Steve. I think you've had it for too long, man. I haven't played it for 40 years.
00:25:55
Speaker
No one's touched it for 40 years. That's shocking. It looks knackered. I don't know what you've been doing with it. It's absolutely trash. The sleeve is all falling to bits. it will win oh Anyway, I'm going to do poem. I'm going to my poem. Yeah, okay. Right, a message from Destiny's Man.
00:26:13
Speaker
We appear to have forgotten about destiny, and I think we need to reappraise that in the wake of current events and also because just anyway. So let's assess our relationship with destiny.
00:26:25
Speaker
We've been neglecting it recently, I feel. I mean, it's within our remit, this idea that where we are is where we are. This is our destiny, and our destiny in the future is largely in the bigger scheme of things, not in our control.
00:26:43
Speaker
So we give ourselves to it, or we try to resist. I think I've just worked out. It doesn't turn out to matter. So use your hands to do good things, and your mind can do bad things, and you can live like that for now.
00:27:00
Speaker
For now is our only possession. And the idea of that, if it sounds like a cliche, then the idea of thinking that sounds like a cliche.
00:27:12
Speaker
You're a fucking cliche. I'm a fucking cliche. We're all cliche. So let's cancel each other out and get on with our day.
00:27:25
Speaker
Nice.
00:27:29
Speaker
That was a bit of a maths thing at the end there. I wish you didn't really understand, but I think people who are into maths will understand that.
00:27:36
Speaker
It's time to head on to... The Derby scene. on the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. Oh, the 90s Derby scene, where have you been?
00:27:51
Speaker
On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. What musical cuisine, Stephen Jive, are you going surf today?
00:28:02
Speaker
Ah, and when we draw back the curtain, this time on the Derby's music scene, we discover a band called Boy Scout.
00:28:15
Speaker
A group of Boy Scouts. A group of Boy Scouts, a young group of Boy Scouts who at one time discovered ah large bottle of peroxide and all dyed their hair in a kind of Birdland sort of way.
00:28:29
Speaker
Oh, they did. If you remember. Now, this band involves lots of people who are known at this parish. They featured our mate Jock on drums.
00:28:40
Speaker
our friend, the aforementioned bulldozer crashed Liberty Ship, Johnny Domino person, Mark Elston on bass, Frankie Machine on lead guitar, and a new name for the podcast, Nick Glynn Davis on guitar and lead vocals. Yes.
00:28:58
Speaker
And they were they were quite something, weren't they? I do remember this band very well. And I remember my thoughts on them at the time. So I'm interested in reappraising that now. Yes.
00:29:11
Speaker
Obviously, they were pretty rocking yeah live. And I remember my initial reaction was, fucking hell, how come Jock's drumming for them? Yeah.
00:29:22
Speaker
We, you know, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's doing some really good drumming. And, you know, they were kind of going for that Britpop rock kind of thing. And it was like, these these boys are going to make it.
00:29:36
Speaker
These boys are going to make it. Yeah. and They didn't. I don't know why they could have done. I guess it goes to show that you need a bit of luck, really. nipp But and I didn't like them mainly because of jealousy.
00:29:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. But I think we should have a little listen to them because I've not heard it for a while. We're going to listen to a song called Nature Boy. have you got anything you wanted to say about it before before we hit that play button?
00:30:02
Speaker
I just want to say I'm very, very pleased that you feel the same way as I did because i was I didn't like them and it was mostly because I was jealous of them because Jock was my drummer. When I played bass in the Millers and Jock was the drummer, we locked together, right?
00:30:17
Speaker
And you saw him locking together with somebody else. Yeah, it's like watching something not very nice. but i'm Watching something not very nice and it wasn't very nice. It's like Eyes Wide Shut or something.
00:30:30
Speaker
ah don't know, I've never seen that film. for There you go. You don't want it. It's like the drummer equivalent. Yeah. But the song that we're playing is a song called Nature Boy. And I think, did they start to resent this? Possibly in a sort of almost Johnny Domino sort of way?
00:30:44
Speaker
Well, because ah people liked it. Because people liked it. The too popular song. Maybe I was just projecting what I would have felt. But anyway. It's got cracking drums on it. Bastards.
00:32:03
Speaker
What it take to feel good nature boy? Surely You burn us down and you could nature boy Shoot me Where do the people hide when you reach out your hand?
00:32:19
Speaker
Nature
00:32:28
Speaker
boy Amaze me How do see
00:32:38
Speaker
We gotta use your touch t-shirt to reach the high Reach up for bluer skies to light the red eyes
00:33:09
Speaker
I need a break from this routine to get you out of my head.
00:34:02
Speaker
Yeah, I need a break from this routine
00:34:40
Speaker
And the boys and girls on the 90s derby scene, they clap their hands and shout hooray. They go crazy for that stuff. Yeah, you know what?
00:34:51
Speaker
They're losing in their minds. Yeah, yeah.
00:34:56
Speaker
I don't know man I enjoyed it yeah it took me back and you know what now I'm an adult I don't feel resentment anymore yeah and I quite enjoyed it yeah now I'm an adult adult and they didn't achieve any success is that what you mean is that what you mean now I'm an at adult and they didn't get anywhere and now I'm pleased for them Birdland.
00:35:15
Speaker
Yeah. Well, they did look a little bit more Birdland at one point because they all dyed their hair blonde. Like real peroxide. It was very peculiar. Yeah. No, I really enjoyed that. but tunnel Analyze it, Steve. you Analyze it musically. Go on. Look, it's it's a good little song. Analyze it.
00:35:30
Speaker
It took me back to the Garrick. The Garrick was a lovely little pub. It was. You know why it was good? Because it had pool tables. Pool tables, great jukebox. Nice barman. Very nice barman.
00:35:41
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, the jukebox was usually free and we would just go in and just put loads of stuff on and just play pool. Yeah. But on this occasion, your Boy Scout were playing. Boy Scout were playing. You couldn't even get near the pool table. Oh, you probably could. but I seem to remember us playing pool when other bands were playing.
00:35:59
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But anyway. No beds. Yeah, I really enjoyed that. They spent a lot of time in recording studios. I think, was it like V2 or something? I don't know. They got good sound though, didn't they? Yeah, but I think they see so yeah they spent a lot of time in recording studios, recording demos for labels that were interested.
00:36:21
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I often think of the band Beekeepers in conjunction with the Boy Scout. Yes. They're another band from the 90s Derby scene that we need to talk about. Again, they they may remind me of the Garrick.
00:36:35
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Yes. And I do remember us playing pool whilst the beekeepers played. I think they're going to come up soon. They might have to. Yes. But so yeah, yeah, I enjoyed that. It took me back.
00:36:47
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took me back. and But I'm still a little bit ah bit jealous of someone else having dropped playing drums
Early Recording Days with The Millers
00:36:52
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for them. Well, don't feel too bad because we're going to listen to a song now, which is us in a band with the aforementioned drummer playing with us.
00:37:02
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Yes. Aren't we? Yes. and And we're going to listen to a song that we recorded in an earlier band, called The Millers. Yes. We've talked about them before.
00:37:13
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We kind of like, we're knocking around. we were kind of in our early 20s. I think at the beginning you weren't even 20 when we first... probably wasn't, no. And we got a little bit of interest. There was a guy from Norwich called... Barry Newman. Barry.
00:37:29
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Barry Newman. Barry Newman. And he had a little record label. Wild Club Records. They released things by Catherine Wheel, most notably. Yeah. And anyway, he got out of our demo and he liked it and he put us in the studio in Great Yarmouth.
00:37:44
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And we've talked about this before. We didn't do ourselves any favours in the studio, really. No, we didn't. And Steve's got a real kind of like allergic reaction to any of the recordings.
00:37:56
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No, no, but I do feel like we should talk a little bit about them because they were a band that we we set up when when me and Jock were at college and we did gigs for our mates and we had a good time and we did gigs all over the place and Jock was into fanzines and sending tapes around to people. So we you did gigs all over the place, we did few gigs in college in um Oh, we did a gig in in Leeds with Boy Racer. We did a gig in London with Stereolab, which is a bit of a disastrous gig for us.
00:38:26
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But, you know, we yeah we were trying to do our thing in that sort way. and yeah we Terrible name, the Millers. yeah but There were a lot of terrible... I don't think Boy Scout's a brilliant name. Better than the Millers.
00:38:37
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Yeah, I suppose, but... It is hard thinking of a band names. But we did the thing and we recorded demos and we sent them around. And as you say, we went into the studio in sunny Great Yarmouth and we just forgot what we wanted to sound like, I think. I think we got like red light fever a little bit.
00:38:56
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Yeah, know. But before you go too far down this self-immolation route, right, um you know, thematically again, yeah let's have a listen to this.
00:39:07
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This is a song that we recorded ingra you on yeah in in aforementioned studio. And it's ah it's a re-recorded version of the song that was recorded on on the demo.
00:39:18
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And it's song called Born to Smile. Let's see what we think about it now.
00:39:36
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kept a little steam and you left inside my head I was one to smile I'm counting flashes of calling disasters And these news were leasing in the air
00:41:25
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I can't forget, I won't forget the little thing that you left inside my head. A force is milestone or not stone.
00:42:29
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Is that the sound of that PV amp?
00:42:47
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is is that the sound of that pvm It's not necessarily the Peavey. It's that little fizzy little distortion pedal that you had. Oh, man. That was really, really fizzy. Because I remember the engineer on those recordings was Richard how Hammerton.
00:43:04
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I mean, basically we had everything, all the tone settings were on maximum. And before we started recording, he just came in and changed it And I'm glad he did because it would have been just 100% treble all the way.
00:43:17
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But yeah, it was that fizzy. I don't think you had to make your distortion pedal. Yeah, I know, but that kind of 90s sound of that amp as well, it's like got a real tinny sound. quite like it, actually, to honest.
00:43:30
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It's got that kind of 90s alternative sound. And obviously the bass, it's got that... Edge bass. It's got edge bass. It's got that weird distorted bass sound as well. Yeah. Which...
00:43:42
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Hammy put it on everything. He put it on absolutely every track. And that's the sort of thing that I'm disappointed with those recordings because there's too many additional guitar tracks. And that's me saying that. The bass has got edge bass on.
00:43:56
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And Giles, are you stoned or not stoned? Stoned or stoned? I was born to smile. I don't know. I enjoyed it.
00:44:07
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thought it was good. I thought good. I thought good recording, actually. That's one of the better ones that we did in those few days in Great Yarmouth. There are much, much worse songs that we recorded. it stood up quite well to Boy Scout.
00:44:20
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Yeah. It was of the same ilk. ah I think Boy Scout we were greatly influenced by the work of the Millers.
00:44:30
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No. No. ah It was good. Good times. Good at times. I want to smile. I don't know what the hell I was on about, though. No. It was nonsense, really, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. I think he was a little bit teenage, or twenty early 20-something.
00:44:46
Speaker
You know, hey, look at me. I'm feeling a little bit crazy on the old wacky-backy. Yeah, well, that's what you do, isn't it? Yeah. And you think you've invented it as well.
00:44:59
Speaker
Banana skins, you know. But yeah, it's all right. It's good. Enjoyed. Thank you very much. And you know, it didn't come out. So we spent a lot of time in the studio. Yeah. Barry spent a lot of money on it and nothing happened with it. It's just one of those things. Oh, well, you never know, Steve.
00:45:18
Speaker
Someone might hear it. And do a TikTok. And do tiktok do a TikToker about it. You could do a lovely dance to that. Yes. Couldn't you? It would be good, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:29
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By the way, I have got some positive news on the
Giles' Health Update
00:45:32
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health front. Yes. i did I did a blood test ad recently, and ah you know i know I've been talking about my stuff on the on the podcast quite a lot.
00:45:41
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So I think it's only fair to sort of share it when something good happens as well, not just the bad stuff. And i've got reading back on my PSA level, which he indicates like how much prostate cancer you've got.
00:45:53
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And it was pretty low. So obviously my body has responded to the um the treatment in a good way. yeah So it's looking positive. Good.
00:46:04
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But I'm still feeling a bit weird. I'm feeling weird as in a bit numb, really, because I've not really kind of processed the news. But on the whole, good news It doesn't mean I'm out the woods yet with it, but, you know, it's as good as it could be at the minute.
00:46:21
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So that's good. There you go.
00:46:36
Speaker
making a podcast in the face of certain doom. We are this Lord Johnny Domino. We're making a podcast, man. We're playing our skill tunes.
00:46:48
Speaker
This is this, our Johnny Domino. We're brothers. We wear glasses. We've got medical conditions.
00:46:59
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We've both been alive for a while.
00:47:06
Speaker
We're making a podcast in the face of certain dew. It's time for the Sajani Domino. Oh, something like that, anyway. I went to Goose Fair.
00:47:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And Goose Fair is a big fair in the Nottingham vicinity.
Poetry Inspired by Goose Fair
00:47:22
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And it is England. Is it in England's biggest fair or the UK's biggest fair or something? I don't know. Is it, Steve?
00:47:30
Speaker
I have no idea. It's one of the oldest fairs anyway. so it's So it's a very big fair basically. And it's quite a thing to go and visit it. It looks like a gigantic...
00:47:41
Speaker
crazy glowing city of rides and lights it's massive and it's kind of on this big field just on the edge of Nottingham city centre and I went to visit it and it made me want to write another poem And it's kind of about Goose Fear, but it's also, a guess, the poem is about this anti-multiculturalism that is about these days.
00:48:11
Speaker
Certainly with the old flags fuckinglog situation, right? yeah And this sense that, you know, that we need to sort be in tribes or whatever and, you know, defend our Englishness or something.
00:48:28
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But going to the Goose Fair did not make me feel like that.
00:48:36
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Goose Fair.
00:48:38
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Friday night, Goose Fair is in the air. So I head on down the hill with a busted silencer and a headlight out, parking on Abba's Road for a little wander among the humans.
00:48:53
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On the dodjums in a burqa, meeting friends in chav bling finest, Indians on bows and arrows. An army of 1,000 roadmen dressed in black and all their mothers versus 27 police.
00:49:10
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And everyone is selling and everyone is buying, all safe in the knowledge that it's overpriced and flimsy. I could stay here forever, subsisting on mushy peas and churros, amongst these people, illuminated by the lights, the endless spinning glow of lights.
00:49:35
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We've mentioned earlier on the phenomenon, which is the PRF Multi-Tribute Series. Now, this loose affiliation of musicians from around the world has been instigated by one Zach Hench.
Appreciating Zach Hench's Music
00:49:51
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Oh. And do you have been listening to some of Zach's music, which he puts out under the name Hench. On Bandcamp, I have. And how did you discover this particular track? Were you just like flicking through his stuff or did something about it grab you?
00:50:08
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No, I was just flicking through. And what stood out for me really was I just enjoyed the fact that it was just clearly just improvised music.
00:50:20
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And it just fitted the mood I was in when I was walking the dog. But i just think as ah as an end to the episode, i think it might be quite a nice thing to hear. yeah Because it's it's a bit like, you know, having some nice nice bit of music after dinner.
00:50:34
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A palate cleanser. It's a palate cleanser, right? And the name of the album is? After Dinner Sketches, Volume 1.
00:50:45
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Hello out there in listener land. This is Hench, Zach Hench. They asked me to record a little bit of a intro blurb backstory about a piece of music that I wrote, Comfortable.
00:51:02
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It's on a recording, an album that I put out back in 2020, After Dinner Sketches, 1. and This was a set, a collection of semi-improvisational piano sketches.
00:51:18
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It was really me sitting down at the piano and playing what came to mind and presenting it mostly warts and all with just a little bit of filing here and there.
00:51:33
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And then so Comfortable is the first track. I wrote this several months before COVID started. So that wasn't on the radar at the time, but that's when it came out. And God knows life hasn't gotten much better since then.
00:51:47
Speaker
But also it was it was being comfortable with coming from a classical piano performance background and having not done that in decades and really not releasing anything that was just me at a piano.
00:52:08
Speaker
All of my prior releases are multiple layers of guitars or whatever, you know, and, and just Okay. i'm I'm comfortable with putting this out just a solo piano.
00:52:24
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I'm comfortable with reclaiming this thing that I stepped away from for many, many years. I'm comfortable with people hearing and understanding that facet of what it is that I do.
00:52:39
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So thank you, Steve. Thank you, Giles. Thank you, listeners.
00:52:46
Speaker
So I think he just plays this, plays he sits and plays the piano after he's had something to eat. As is evening meal. not sure of that. I think he does. I think he does. think he sits, if you read the stuff, Steve, he sits and reads, sits and, he's had his dinner. He didn't say anything about He's had his dinner.
00:53:02
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He's had his dinner. Right. where it Where is he? Where does he live? I'm picturing it. Where he live? let's build ah Let's build an audio picture here.
00:53:12
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He's not from Birmingham, he? he's not. He's from California. He's not from Stoke-on-Trent. He's from Los Angeles, right? So he sat in Los Angeles, right? Imagine in Los Angeles, right? You're in Los Angeles. You've had a nice dinner. I don't know what you've had. probably i You've probably had some Mexican food.
00:53:29
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Right. I don't know. Maybe some churros, right? And he's mushy peas. And he's had it and he's just letting his dinner go down. And he's... And he wants us over to the piano.
00:53:42
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He sits at his piano he plays. Yeah, yeah. and And this is nice, and this and this is what I've been listening to. So I think and you need to get into the mood for this. We've been listening to some, like, you know, 90s indie pop yeah and stuff. yeah know This is a bit of a tone shift.
00:53:58
Speaker
going to get into some nice, gentle, improvised piano music, I think it's going to do us all good. Can I just say, we've all had a good laugh, but it is a really good bit of music, so... it look that The whole thing's good, man. You should listen to the whole album. I've listened to the whole of Volume 1. I'm going to get into Volume 2.
00:54:15
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But it's yeah, he sat there after his dinner. There he goes. You don't hear his dinner going down. There's no rumble tums on this recording. He's had his tea. He's had his He's had his tea.
00:54:29
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He's had his cod and parsley sauce with mashed potatoes.
00:54:35
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and And some nice peas. Yeah.
00:54:42
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00:55:57
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00:56:36
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00:58:18
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Well, that was rather lovely. Yeah. I feel like I've fully digested. Good. You're digestive. Yeah. Have a cigar. Yeah. and So you're telling me that Hench, he invented the PRF tribute series. He certainly did, yeah.
00:58:37
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So he's like, he's kind like the creator. Yes, he' he the ah he's like wi the Wizard of Oz. He's like Zeus. Yeah. Jingle,
00:58:59
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So we're nearly at the end of the episode, aren't we, Steve? Yeah. It's been a while since we've done one. It is. We had a little bit of a gap. Yeah, I think we need to we need to do another one soon because then we'll be back on track.
00:59:10
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I think, I'd like to. Well, we've got more stuff to talk haven't we? yeah, it's never going stop. Then we're going to stop because we'll just keep recording new shit. Absolutely. But, you know, people who are listening, you know, feel free to send us some stuff, you know. Yeah. You know, it could be something for the eternal halls of the four-track gods or anything, really.
00:59:31
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Just get involved. Yeah. You know, I've been thinking about engagement opportunities, really. And... Go on. You know, so since since I've had some quite positive news, I thought might sort pitch this one out, right?
00:59:45
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Go. I was wondering like about like if anyone else thinks about songs that they want to be played at their funeral. I know exactly what I want playing at my funeral, but carry on.
00:59:56
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Because it's one of those things that, I don't know, maybe it's because we're getting on a bit, right? um' I'm wondering if it's one of those things that people might be able to sort of like share.
01:00:07
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Because I certainly do think about it. Not in a really morbid way. But i quite often, I will hear a song and go, oh, I might put that one on the list. Okay. Do you know what I mean?
01:00:19
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And sometimes I want something that's quite poignant. And then other times I think, oh, something a bit more celebratory. Yeah. Or something a bit ironic that will piss people off. I don't know. I'm just putting it out there.
01:00:30
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i wonder if people might want to sort of like on on Facebook or whatever, or just messages and tell us some songs that you're thinking you might currently want to have At your funeral.
01:00:44
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Is that too morbid, Steve? Is that too morbid? I think it I mean, know, can we just make it a point to say that this ah is not legally binding? You know, you can change your mind. But, you know, I mean, I know exactly what I want.
01:00:56
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Oh, go on. What do you want share now? Might as well. As an example. As an example. on, Steve. Well, currently. For the last 10 years. like Probably the last 20 years, yeah. Okay. And it hasn't changed yet. I want two songs.
01:01:10
Speaker
Yeah, go on. I want, for the poignancy in the feels, I want Birdhouse in Your Soul by They Might Be Giants. Okay. And then I want Anarchy in the UK performed by Frank Sidebottom.
01:01:25
Speaker
So track one, side one of Frank's firm favourites. Not Anarchy in Timperley, Anarchy in the UK. Okay. and That's what I want. To make everyone have a bit of a laugh. Yeah, that's what I'm having.
01:01:38
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you' know You're not allowing people to be sad, are you, Steve? I think I want something that's going to make people cry. Well, why? Why? yeah because You know, you like to think people would be sad anyway. you know so i want people to be, you know, thrashing their hair about and tearing their garments in grief, to be honest. Yeah, but why? But you're not going to be there to see it, so might as well let it. do know.
01:02:03
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I do know. um might I might be floating. Anyway, Bird As Your Soul, like that's kind of quite a cosmic song. Yeah, it's a cosmic song. So I can get that. But i think... i think Did they record a ah more kind of sombre version of it?
01:02:17
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Could you have one by Ellie Goulding? I'll just say, I'm the person who's supposed to have the miserable taste in music, and I could really go all out and just like destroy everybody with some songs.
01:02:29
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But I don't want to do that. I want i want to put Birdhouse on and I want a bit of Frank Sidebottom. Okay, all right, all right, all right, okay. I think I'm just putting it out there as a thing that we could discuss on the podcast a bit more.
01:02:40
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But I like the fact that you've got some pretty solid choices there. Dude, that's it. But next time we talk about it, might tell you some of my ideas. But maybe you could sort of have a little bit of a think as well, see if you've got any others, Steve. Because you might want a bit of entrance music and stuff as well. You're going to have of The Mud Shark by Frank Sapper, aren't you?
01:03:00
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cross that one bring that yeah across that okay pro okay um anyway e there first thank you very much for listening to the podcast if you're enjoying listening to the this ah johnny domino podcast please fred and and reallyly hold on steve right ok steve w right steve right I have been listening to a very lustful, thrusting and virile song recently. I don't like where this is going. is
01:03:40
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It's a song by the man called Muddy Waters. Ah, a young man called Muddy Waters. And it's a song called You Need Love.
01:03:52
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Yeah.
01:03:57
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You got yawning and I got funny Baby you look so sweet and cunning Baby way down inside Woman you need love Woman you need love You got to have some love I'm gon' give you some love
01:04:25
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And this song came to my window of attention because I have been continuing to listen to The History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, the epic podcast by Mr. Andrew Hickey, where he's basically attempting to cover...
01:04:45
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The entire history of popular music in the 20th century in incredible
Led Zeppelin and Plagiarism Discussion
01:04:52
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detail. Oh, yeah. And it's it's a hell of a thing.
01:04:55
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And you did ask me to tell you when there's some episodes that I thought you'd enjoy. And the current episodes about um Led Zeppelin are excellent.
01:05:07
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In a shocking turn of events, i I should tell you that I've listened to them already. They're very good, they? They're very good. And I think the listeners should listen to them, right? But it i mean it's got many, many interesting things about it.
01:05:21
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But one of the things that is definitely hammered home is the fact that Led Zeppelin... could completely ripped off oh yeah a load a load of blues um artists and plagiarised and attempted not to credit them as well. Oh yeah. they me They made no attempt whatsoever. In fact, they they listed themselves as composers and or arrangers of traditional music.
01:05:46
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Absolutely. it Like Willie Dix has apparently had to like take him to court and all kinds of things. Anyway, so You Need Love by Muddy Waters is clearly the root of whole lot love by Led Zeppelin.
01:06:01
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Clearly to anybody with ears, right? And I think... you should go away and listen to it because this is the pure root of it. It's like the cordial before it's been wore down.
01:06:13
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Yes. Right? so that's what you need to get into, man. This is like the pure stuff. Yeah? Yeah. But yeah, I still like Led Zeppelin. What your thoughts on Led Zeppelin, Steve? there's i think they're all right.
01:06:25
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They're all right. My favourite thing about these episodes that so Andrew Hickey has done, clearly doesn't like Led Zeppelin. I think he likes some of their songs. I think he just dislikes them as people for their business practices and their morals, really.
01:06:42
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And... My favorite bit is he says, Jimmy Page is only interested in money. He's not really interested in music. He's interested in money. And their manager, Peter Brown, said, if you ever want to kill Jimmy Page, chuck a sixpence in front of a bus.
01:06:58
Speaker
That's a great line. Which is hilarious, right? Yeah. But doesn't sound like a very, I mean, you know, a lot most rock stars were pretty horrible, yeah really, at this time, did some pretty terrible things. But I think Jimmy Page was pretty bad, according to this, anyway. yeah so But it's it's it's good, anyway. So go and listen to That's all advertising on other podcasts that should go and listen to, definitely.
Listener Feedback and Humor
01:07:22
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mean, some people don't like his voice. Some people I know just do not like his voice.
01:07:26
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But I don't mind it at all. I think you could get over that if you tried and and it wouldn't take you very long. I wonder if people hate our voices. Please don't tell us.
01:07:38
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i don't want any of that kind of feedback. No, no, thank you. If that's all right. Only positives in the Johnny Domino inbox, please. Thank you. Good vibes. of