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If you're looking for a lighthearted and obscure music podcast, then episode 45 has it all: music, poetry, movies, anagrams and a special report from the Shiiine On Weekender in Skegness.
The brothers Woodward have lots to discuss as they review another tune from the 90s Derby Music scene and a new/old track by Simon G. Richardson. It’s a jam-packed episode of the This Are Johnny Domino podcast that features just one Johnny Domino song. What's going on??
Featuring in no particular order:
- 24-hour middle-aged people
- Hi Ho Silverheels
- Bez’s pool party
- Too many references to Ned’s Atomic Dustbin
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Podcast artwork by Giles Woodward
Edited by Steve Woodward at PodcastingEditor.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Tom Waits' Joke
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Tom Waits famously quipped, a gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't. Let's just think about that for a minute.
Podcast Introduction and Hosts
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Music
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Hello and welcome to the This Our Johnny Domino podcast, a light-hearted and entertaining podcast with myself, Steve Woodward, and my brother, Giles Woodward.
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Hello, here am. how are you doing? I'm good. What do you think Tom Waits meant by that? What does that quote mean to you? Do you think it's saying something about you shouldn't show off if you know to do something well?
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I don't know. Or do you think he's just saying that the accordion is a really annoying instrument? I think a gentleman is somebody who knows how to do things that could potentially upset people and annoy people, ah huh but holds back.
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Interesting. Possibly. That's what I think it means. What have you been doing? What have I been doing? What haven't
Fugazi Film Discussion
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I been doing? Well, at the weekend I went to see a film called We Are Fugazi from Washington, D.C.,
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It was an interesting film. It was really quite cool because it was basically live footage of Fagazi doing certain songs throughout their career. I went with some friends and one particular friend, John. Hi there, John, who I haven't seen for ages.
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So it was very nice to catch it with him beforehand. And then we saw the film and it was good. But why can't people sit still for an hour and a half? Oh, you're feeling a bit insolerant of the other audience members.
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just like People just can't hold it in for an hour and a half. It's a 94, 96-minute film, something like that. Sit down, man. Maybe they weren't finding it as interesting as you.
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Did it have a narrative structure? what is What was the film like? What was it? there Yeah, there wasn't really a narrative structure. What happened was people were talking about the fact that Fugazi were quite open about people recording their gigs and filming their gigs. They didn't really care about it. You could bootleg it, whatever you want.
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And they were saying, I had a video camera. I went to the gig. They let me perch in some kind of random place on a balcony or something like that and film it.
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And then they would show a song from their gig. It wasn't chronological. There were some bits from the start of their career, some bits from the end of their career. And yeah, it was good.
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It was a good film. You know, they were an interesting band. I mean, they were amazing to see play anyway, right? You know, you've seen them, haven't you? You saw them a couple of times. I've seen them a couple of times. I only saw them once. I saw them at Trent Polly, as ah as was probably 91, 92, something like that.
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Were you there? No, wasn't at that one. Yeah, went with John, who I saw at the weekend. And, know, we reminisced about going to that gig. And they were a great live band.
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But the fact is they had like hundreds and hundreds of songs and they never wrote a set list. Yeah. I don't know. They must have had like blocks of songs they knew worked well together. And they go, right, start on this one.
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We know we're going to end up. Was there anything you didn't like about the film? a as you can imagine with the band like Fugazi, it's pretty obvious they took themselves very seriously.
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And there was, there were a couple of sections where Ian McKay, was, there was one particular section.
Ian McKay's Philosophy on Music
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He was talking about if I was a baker and people were hungry, I'd give them bread.
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And if people were homeless and I was a carpenter, I'd build them a house. And i I make music for people who need music. Yeah. you And that was a bit,
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I know. Ian, ah but one particular bit I really liked is there's a lot of footage of them just knobbing about, particularly the drummer. I like footage of bands knobbing about. Oh, yeah, and that bit was great. And, you know, get a drummer anywhere near a piano, he's going to be playing the piano.
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And that's what Brendan Canty ended up doing. Yeah, I think I agree with you about the sort of like the seriousness of Fugazi. I mean, obviously, they're great and everything. yeah That's not something up for debate. But they, don't know, and it's a bit of a ridiculous criticism to sort of say Fugazi
Fugazi vs. Radiohead: Humor in Music
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haven't got much of a sense of humour. No. But that is the thing that stops me from completely loving them, I suppose, is the fact that there are no jokes.
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But, you know, there will have been jokes. You could have this conversation about Radiohead. You know, they take themselves very seriously. But I don't believe for a second that when they first played through, like, Paranoid Android and they got to the end of it after six minutes of this, like, really weird, twisted, proggy structure, they didn't just fall about laughing.
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Yeah, but we don't get any of that, if that did happen. I can't believe it. Which I'm um doubting. It's well. but there But, you know, in your mind.
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But, yeah, I don't know. i don't We don't get to see any of it. No. So, yeah, but you enjoyed it. Is that film on, like, general release
Film Release Strategy
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whatever? No, I think it was on for one night. And I think it said on the website, it's not going on streaming. They're not going to sell on DVD or Blu-ray. It's basically you see it at the cinema or you miss it.
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You know, some joker will get a copy and will stick it up on YouTube. So you'll be able to watch it. There was one particular performance
Controversial Fugazi Song
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in the film. It was a version of Suggestion and it was sung by ah female punk singer called Amy Pickering.
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I think Fagazi got it in the neck for writing a song about rape from a woman's perspective, you know, because obviously they were men, which is kind of ridiculous in a way, but I can kind of see what people would be saying, what right they got to, I don't know. I suppose it is a valid criticism. It's possibly a valid criticism.
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And Amy Pickering performed the song. Yeah, right. She's a friend of Ian McKay's and the song is written about something that happened to her. And I didn't know that at the time, it was an incredible performance. It is. You sent it to me. Yeah. You sent me a clip. um So yeah, go and watch it on YouTube, people.
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It'll in the show notes. It's in the show notes. Yeah. It is a good performance. It's really cool. And it kind of makes the song make, the song obviously does make more sense, really. Yeah. And she does ah does a
Critique of 'White Lotus' Finale
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cracking performance. of Yeah. Really good. Really good. Yeah.
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What have you been doing? I, well, I watched the White Lotus finale last night. Okay. Yeah. Yeah? Have you been watching White Lotus? No. ah Everyone else is watching White Lotus. Well, that's fine. That's fine. It's like three series down, isn't it? um yeah third Yeah, third season.
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bit controversial. Is it good? Is it crap? that I don't know. Is it good or is it crap? um My review really is The American dream. What can we say? It's all gone a bit wrong, hasn't it? The people who have lives that are richer and more ah luxurious than kings and queens from c centuries before turn out to be vacuous and shallow and see it as their duty to ignore the shit out of any guilt they feel for any of the rest of humanity that are stumbling and scrabbling about beneath them.
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Am I still talking about White Lotus? I'm not sure you may have crossed over into some kind of twisted reality which can't really be happening. Yeah, a little bit. There's a bit of that going on.
John Cooper Clarke's Poetry Event
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yeah um Also, a few weeks ago, i went to see John Cooper Clarke. at the Royal Concert Hall in Nottingham and it was like a World Poetry Day kind of event. it was it was It was cracking. I had a really, really good time.
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um And there were there were four poets on and it's a big, you know, it's a big place. Yeah, yeah. to fill it and you And I i was so sort of thinking, you know, is this what's this going to be like? But it was, you know, there was a lot of people, it was pretty full and I was thinking, how is this going to get across? You know, like just a person at a microphone, you know, reading a poem to a massive auditorium like this.
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But it did mostly really work. It was really good. And we were sat fairly far back, you know. yeah And like say, there were four poets. There were really good ones. so was this guy, Mike Gary, who's from Manchester, who tours with John Cooper Clark a lot, apparently. And he was he was really good. He's got a lovely kind of sort sing-song way of of of kind of like phrasing his poetry.
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And he's got a really good one about um Tony Wilson called St. and Anthony. st an Oh, yeah. It's really good. And John Coop Clark was ah good. He was a bit subdued to start off with. You you know, he looked he looked very dapper.
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It's just great to see him, really. But he kind of got going, and he was very charming, and there were some really good funny anecdotes, and he did sort of do his kind of classics, ah you know, towards the end. So, yeah, that was really good.
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And then there was this guy, Henry Normal. Have you ever heard of Henry Normal? oh yeah. Henry Normal's a local poet Steve I didn't realise he's from Nottingham yeah yeah but he's Rousers thought was Manchester no he's from Nottingham and he's moved think he's moved recently down south I think he did say but he did a really good set as well and he kind of inspired me to write a poem about Henry Normal in a Henry Normal style nice it's called Who is Henry Normal
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John Cooper Clark said he owns this town, but who is Henry Normal? A cardi-clad poet who swings sweetly from sad to funny to sad to funny.
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His words chime with me. not-born word-slinger doing stuff about family and loving the small stuff and getting old and stuff and existing in the moment and stuff and stuff and stuff.
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Who is Henry Normal? Most people who know him agree. Henry is good. Henry is nice. Mostly unlike me.
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and Henry Normal also ah co-wrote and script edited Mrs Merton's show and The Royal Family with Caroline Ahern.
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He did. Yeah, and he set up, oh, what's it called? Oh, man. Baby Cow. Set up Baby Cow with Steve Coogan as well, so slow production. I didn't realise it was from Nottingham. That's excellent. Yeah, it's got a very Nottingham voice.
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Ah. I don't think I've ever heard him speak. I mean, I don't want to keep it on the poetry tip, but we got sent a poem via the contact form on our Bandcamp page.
00:11:26
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Did we? We did. Received it the other day. It's from Andy Hines, someone who I don't know. This is the poem that we received. I'm excited. i need to um um This is the first poem we've ever had.
00:11:39
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I know. I like this. We do like people sending us songs, but, you know, pictures, you know, photo montages, anything. We're quite happy with anything. Poems, baby.
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um Okay. Go. Andy writes, My grandfather was a Werther's original OG. He used to kiss my head when I sat on his knee.
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He used to give me a Werther's and kiss my head, but the Werther's original OG is dead.
00:12:10
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Very nice. I like that. I appreciate that. That's really nice. Yeah, and that's in reference to the last episode of the podcast when we inexplicably included a recording of the old Werther's original TV ad.
00:12:24
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, just a reminder, you are listening to this, our Johnny Domino podcast, in which we tend to talk about music. Yes. And it's certainly about old music crappy tapes of stuff that we recorded a very, very long time ago.
00:12:41
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um But, you know, we talk about all this stuff as well. Yeah. And we've been going for a while. What episode is this? This is number 45. 45. 45. The speed of a seven-inch single.
00:12:57
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But, yeah, we should have more. I like the advert last episode. That was good. I think you should dig out some more. That was cool. I'm just going to leave a gap to insert one when I edit it. Got what it takes, my wife.
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Got friends round. Got roast pork for lunch. Plenty of taste, British pork. Real value for money. Friends got plenty? Martha's got plenty. We've all got plenty.
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Plenty to go round. My wife's got what it takes. British pork. What's it got? It's got the lot. Got pork for lunch on Sunday?
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Oh, and like thanks. That was really good.
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Your wish was my command. Yeah, yeah. Okay, ah right. I don't know what it is, but it was really good. It must have been great. It was amazing. I don't know what it is yet, but there you go. Okay, there you go.
00:13:53
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oh ah you might not put this in i was listening to the funny comics fan club podcast that we've mentioned before by our friend mark hibbert yeah yeah and uh he did mention our podcast in it did he oh i'll have to check the stats for a spike But mainly he was just complaining about the fact that we always say that he's he's continually going on about how he's a doctor.
00:14:21
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So we need to do that some more, basically. Sorry, Dr. Hibbert. Sorry, doctor. Yeah. He's a doctor of comics, you know. On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen.
00:14:35
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On the 90s Derby scene, where have you been? On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. What musical cuisine, Stephen Jardim, are you going to serve today?
00:14:49
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Day, day, day, day, day. Nice. So here we are on the 90s music scene of Derby, right?
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And last episode, we listened to a song by a band called Scribble. Yes. And if you remember the conversation, I was talking about the fact that the there was a bit of nominative determinism going on there.
00:15:14
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And that i thought the music sounded a little bit scribbly. Yes. And then you mentioned a band called Stumble. Yes. ah That was also a ah derby band. And all of these one word band names, eh?
00:15:27
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yeah and And we're talking about the fact that maybe they might share that kind of similar normative determinism. So we're have a listen to some stumble.
00:15:38
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And you're going to tell us about them in a minute. But I'm just going to say, i have listened to this track a couple of times. And the question was, do they stumble? And I think it kind of does in a bit of a Ned's Atomic Dustbin whole body lurching forward thrashing your hair about in long shorts wearing a big band t-shirt kind of way that kind of stumbling and in this song which i really like i think the backing vocals do a lot of the heavy lifting and i like that i can't believe you invoked ned's atomic dustbin mad we're going to talk about them some more
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We'll be right back.
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I'm a fantasy.
00:19:09
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Don't try fighting what's inside, Steve. I never do. Never do. I always let it get out as soon as it can. Let it out. I'll try to. I see what you're saying about the backing vocals. That was the songwriter Stephen Battelle on BVs there.
00:19:26
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That was my favourite bit about it. Yeah, it's really good. For a time, stumble... had a lead singer called Ollie. And then i think eventually Steve took over lead vocals in that band.
00:19:40
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Did a bit of reading about them. that So, you know, that song was taken from the Home Cooking Volume 1 compilation that we've talked a lot about in the past. and So I don't think that song's available anywhere else.
00:19:53
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They were, for a time, they were the darlings of Kerrang! magazine. And they did gigs around Derby for a few years. They released their first single on Artists Against Success in 1998, did gigs at V2000, had TV appearances, features in national papers, rave reviews for singles, and gigs all over the place.
00:20:11
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but Apparently they appeared on Why Don't You. Wow. They appeared on Why Don't You. Hey. that dizzying heights of Why Don't You. And then after they split, a few of the members continued as a band called Intentions of an Asteroid.
00:20:26
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And then they turned into a band called Lost Alone. um And then I found, i mean, this is this is a hell of a press release that Steve's got on his website. Kerrang! Magazine called him the maddest musical mind in the country, a demented genius with similar affection from the enemy, mind-bending, ludicrous melody writer.
00:20:45
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What I remember is You remember when Johnny Domino used to do gigs? I was like, you know, people used to come and talk to me quite a lot. They didn't talk to me. No, no, not I'm not saying that they didn't go and talk to Jim because I think Jim was quite intimidating.
00:21:01
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You didn't talk to me But you were the friendly face of the band. I was the forward-facing member of the band, definitely. And I just remember like chatting with him quite a lot. We did a couple of gigs with ah Stumble.
00:21:12
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We did one in London, one of our few London gigs. That was quite a nice one. And ah he did have this plan. He wanted to form a band called – his name is Stephen Battelle.
00:21:24
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He wanted to form a band called The Battalion. which would would have loads and loads of guitarists in it. don't if he'd heard of Glenn Branker at the time, but he was trying to create this sort of like guitar orchestra and he wanted me to be in that.
00:21:36
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Yeah, nice. ah Apparently, the lead singer of My Chemical Romance, Gerard Way, has said, i know every word to every song they've written. They make music like no one else. You know, he's got good quotes on here.
00:21:49
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You know, he's written songs for various people, including McFly. Wow. He's contributed to songs by McFly. yeah For my sins, I have come across McFly more often than I would like.
00:22:03
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And you can kind of hear it. Yeah. You kind of hear there's a bit of it. we know it's I wouldn't say it was Route 1, guitar pop, which is a phrase that Mark Elston used to use quite a bit. Hi there, Mark.
00:22:17
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But, you know, it's it does what it says on the tin. Yeah, I mean, that's that's some of his early work, isn't it, Steve? That's the early work. Imagine if you went to college with them, though, and you were going to a gig and they're knocking out tunes like that. You'd be leaping all over the place like a fool. Yeah, cracking. Like fool.
00:22:33
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Yeah, very much so, definitely. i You know, I didn't really realise that they'd had that much of success and career. I mean, not smoke so much as Stumble, but gone on, I suppose, to have good careers, really.
00:22:46
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Yeah, I think Lost Alone were quite big. You know, in in the world of music, which I am no no part of, you know they they do all right and they've toured i think they to quote spinal tap they've toured the world and elsewhere wow it's a very steve lemak kind of aesthetic isn't it yeah he's here again who steve steve lemak steve you know he's an important figure yes is he but yeah it's like it's it's definitely that kind of um thing in it yeah
00:23:18
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But Stumble never never really attained... i mean, they were they were one of those bands that kind of almost made it massive, but didn't quite get to the level of Ned's Atomic Dustbin, did they?
00:23:28
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Stop mentioning Ned's Atomic Dustbin. the the playty They're just in my head at the moment. But i just think i just think that song, it does it does have that kind of stumbly, kind of grungy sound to it.
00:23:42
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um Lurching changes. It's got lurching changes. It's got lurching changes. it's but It's missing the two bases that Ned's Atomic dustbin have, obviously. Christ for that, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:54
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I think Stumble had a narrow escape, really, because if they had reached the level of Ned's Atomic Dustbin, they could be where Ned's Atomic Dustbin are now, which is playing at the Shine On Weekender in Skegness to a ah room full of...
00:24:14
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40 to 60 year olds. I think I know someone who went to that recently. like Yes, I did. i did. And I successfully managed to avoid going to see Ned's Atomic Dustbin, well along with many other bands.
00:24:28
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and But yeah, I did go to The Shine on Weekender at Skegness Butlins the other week, and I made a little bit of a report of of what I saw there.
Shine On Weekender Festival Experience
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Recording number one, Shine On Festival 2025 Skegness, Butlins. It's Saturday morning about 1130.
00:24:51
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We arrived last night. Got straight into it. Jesus Jones. They were very entertaining, have say. Utah Saints came after, playing some very good tunes. Really did did enjoy that.
00:25:06
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Managed to avoid dodgy echo belly and in spiral carpets. Last night, there was a man who cracked his head open on a ah chalet nearby. little bit of blood involved.
00:25:20
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A paramedic did did turn up eventually. There were a number of nurses or off-duty nurses having a bit of a nursing competition around them. It was all good, I hope.
00:25:31
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Today, various activities planned. First one being Beza's pool party, which I've got my shorts ready and I'm going to get myself and myself in that pool.
00:25:46
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Hello again. Just dried off after Bez's pool party. It was good once you'd relaxed a bit and got used to the fact that you were semi-naked next to a bunch of strangers and Bez was there making sure everyone had a good time.
00:26:03
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I think that's a great thing about Bez, really. He's got no musical talent whatsoever, but integral in the success of the Happy Mondays as a vibe merchant, I think.
00:26:15
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The pool party was quite fun. One of the best things about it really was just trying to hit as many men with bald heads on their head with the aforementioned beach balls.
00:26:28
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Wonder what we're going to do next.
00:26:32
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Just been to see Yogi Chi and the family. That was an interesting one. You know, we had to deal with the smell of the piss of a million toddlers We've just seen a very impressive James Tribute act.
00:26:50
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So anyway, we're going to see some other things in a minute. I think I would give Yogi G and his family about two and a half out of ten. James Tribute act, probably a solid five because I quite liked the fact that it was like good karaoke, you know what i mean? right Controversial decision. There you go.
00:27:12
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Oh, dear. It all sort of went downhill after that, really, for a while. It's Sunday morning, out for a little bit of a walk and having a nice time in the bright sunshine, actually.
00:27:28
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Yesterday, the music was a little bit thin on the ground, but not so giggles and fun, thanks to the people that we're with, really. But yeah, the music...
00:27:41
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less great thousand yard stare frankly awful band really sort band that might be on before or after cable but i couldn't really remember what they were like and uh i don't really want to remember what they're like now uh we saw the hms north side revival uh they were bobbing along on a sea of bald heads with a talented young tambourine player and his friends.
00:28:10
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You know, they've been going a long time. I think they've had a fair chance of trying to turn into a decent band. quite got there yet. Saw the clone roses. The name promises so much, but, you know, doesn't really deliver.
00:28:28
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It's the kind of clone that perhaps might have been made a very dirty laboratory, perhaps with scientists with very dirty hands.
00:28:40
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Saw EMF, some old men singing teenage songs from the Forest of Dean, and we saw Kud, a pretty good band with an excellent singer. i think they're hampered by having a shit name, Kud. I thought their name was very good.
00:28:56
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i think their reception generally would always have been better if they'd been called something like a bit less stupid. i think they should be called something like Carl Putnam and the Modern Set or something like that.
00:29:12
Speaker
I think they'd be a cracking band, but Kud, Kud, Kud be better. 808 state were the highlight really an excellent band i think and and i think it's time to put to bed this idea of two blokes standing behind a desk playing music as being a boring thing or being more boring perhaps than four blokes with guitars and drums it's not it's not more boring let's be honest
00:29:44
Speaker
Yeah, they were very good. A really good show. And Pacific State it was the tune of the weekend so far, really. Ten out of ten. The live sax performance from Graham Massey was outstanding.
00:30:00
Speaker
Just watched the Beast Decoys. ah Beastie Boys tribute band. have say, it's probably one of the best things I've seen. Two blokes from...
00:30:12
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Blackpool and their mates who didn't do very much. so And they're really excellent.
00:30:23
Speaker
um all that over and stone so on like You must listen to the Jai Domino podcast. Bing, bing, bing. That's it. That's good. Well done. Things seem to be going a little bit awry.
00:30:37
Speaker
I think I might be turning into one of those people that like goldy looking chain.
00:30:43
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I'm not sure what's gonna happen next. It's not looking good. um We've got the wedding present, the wonder stuff. So I could go down that route, or I could go down the route of like the dub pistols, or possibly bit slip mat, slip mat, slip mat.
00:31:06
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slipout The DJ. There you go. And kind of ends there. That's the way I it. Yes. No, and and I have to say, Steve, I do appreciate the the work you put into editing that.
00:31:22
Speaker
You made it sound like it almost almost made sense. But, you know, it did kind of sort of degenerate into just a load of drunk voices just talking towards the end.
00:31:33
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I guess that's the kind of the way the weekend went. Yeah. I really enjoyed the fact that you forgot how to say slip mat at the end. i think that says so much about where your head was at.
00:31:47
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Slip mat. Slip mat. A DJ. A DJ. A DJ. What or who is Yogi G? oh yeah oh no well yogi g and the family tree yeah they even get the name right uh yogi g and the family tree is band of the drummer from the happy mondays gaz wheelen oh god and it's a so it's a drummer band and and gaz wheelen sings and plays guitar as a singer and guitarist does he make a good drummer
00:32:19
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I think his best work was behind the kit, really. on yeah But it yeah, it was it was it was not great. yeah I don't want to be too damning about it because at least he's trying to do something. Yeah. yeah But you know, I didn't love it.
00:32:35
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I heard about it because I was listening to the Paul Ryder tapes podcast, which is a really good podcast. Actually, if you've not listened to it, the earlier episodes are basically um interviews with Paul Ryder before he passed away.
00:32:48
Speaker
And then the later episodes are like his mates talking about memories. And this is like really amazing memories about the happy Mondays and stuff. But in the most recent one, it's Gaz bigging up his new band.
00:33:02
Speaker
So I thought, oh, I'll give him a go. I'll give him a go. But I did kind of regret it a little bit, actually. And it was in this big venue at the Butlins, which is obviously used for some kind of children's events, possibly toddlers, because it's got this kind of carpet that, especially when the room's not got many people in it, the whole place just smells of urine.
00:33:27
Speaker
Hmm. The urine of a thousand toddlers, basically. That sounds delightful. So that that was that. I don't want to come across as being too negative about the the whole whole weekend, really. I have to say, I had a i a ah really good time.
00:33:43
Speaker
Despite the music. I'd consider going again. no I actually like quite a lot of the music as well, but perhaps not the music that... I guess most people were going to see or maybe that you I was kind of expecting to like.
00:33:57
Speaker
So what were what were you looking forward to when you went there? I don't know. i was I thought I'd probably go and see the Inspiral Carpets, but I managed to swerve them. Yeah. And I thought, you know, ah might see a few more of the ah sort of more indie bands, but I didn't really enjoy the ones I saw.
00:34:14
Speaker
No. And I kind of got more into sort of like some of the dance artists, as you can probably you could probably hear from it. Yeah, yeah. I didn't end up going to see Slipmat in the end. I was too tired. dear. Yeah. I got a bit too tired. It was the last night, man. I'd had enough by then, so I couldn't stay up that late.
00:34:31
Speaker
But it it was good. The dance music definitely seems to have aged quite well. Probably better, yeah, definitely. I mean, Kud were a band I saw more times than I should have done during my college years, whether they were headlining their own gig or supporting like the wedding present or something like that. I saw them quite a few times.
00:34:51
Speaker
Was it William Potter, the bass player? He was, mean some of our friends at college, they all fancied William Potter. And he's lost his hair, which is always quite pleasing. As far as I could tell, I think it's the still the original line-up.
00:35:03
Speaker
That's sweet. But Carl has still got a really good voice. And what a performer that man is. What a performer. Really good. they yeah they were they were They were pretty decent, actually. I really enjoyed them.
00:35:15
Speaker
But goldy-looking chain. Sorry. I mean, you must have been tired. If enjoyed Goldie Look and Chain. But yeah, no, I did enjoy them. Yeah. I enjoyed them a lot. yeah They really tore the place up. They were good. And they they put on a show.
00:35:30
Speaker
you know what i mean? There's a lot of them. Yeah. Right? There's a lot of them. And they were really choreographing their moves around the stage. You know what i mean? They were as choreographed as like some sort of boy band.
00:35:40
Speaker
in the way that they were kind of moving around and sort of getting to the front of the stage for their part and stuff. They were really funny. I mean, you know, the songs really worked in that environment, yeah I have to say.
00:35:52
Speaker
And they've got a really good song about the middle of Lidl that you've got to listen to. It's like an existential crisis brought about by being in the middle of Lidl.
00:36:03
Speaker
Once it's gone, it's gone. And they've got a really good song about pubic hair as well. It's really rude. Really rude. Well, ah this is a family podcast. list not Let's not talk about that.
00:36:15
Speaker
I did enjoy you talking about a Thousand Yard Stare, and i think they might well have played with cable. Probably. i can almost see the poster. Another the little thing happened. On one of the afternoons, me and Tracy went and had a game of pool in one of the sports bars, and it was good because it was like cheap pool and stuff.
00:36:32
Speaker
And the ah the lead singer from EMF came in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he was it he was in there while I was playing pool. I'd won the first game and Tracy was doing quite well on the second game.
00:36:44
Speaker
And she popped a few balls and then she sort snookered me behind the black and i and I couldn't directly get my shot, right? So I had to do a shot that bounced at an oblique angle like off two of the cushions and i actually did it and i got it in and uh the lead singer from emf came up to me and said you're unbelievable
00:37:15
Speaker
no he didn't no good story though isn't it
00:37:20
Speaker
Anyway, you can't edit admit that out. I will keep that in just so everyone knows what I'm dealing with. But no, that was ah that was a lovely report. I'm glad you had a good time. Thank you. Tickets are on sale for next year.
00:37:33
Speaker
but I might go. Again, I gave out some This Old Joe Domino podcast badges. Nice. so there might be some people listening that have curiously got a badge off a weird stumbling man and thought, oh, what's what's this about?
00:37:47
Speaker
So you never know. Oh, hello to anybody who's listening because of a badge that was given to you by a drunken man in Skegness. Hi, I'm Giles and Stephen's mum, and I don't listen their podcasts.
00:38:03
Speaker
I think they're very silly boys. ah Friend of the podcast, Simon Gatemouth Richardson, has dusted off his old broken four track. It's been sat in one of his spare rooms.
00:38:16
Speaker
I imagine maybe he's got more than one, possibly. I don't know. He's in a spare room for years, and now he's gone and took it and got it fixed, and there was a tape in it, and there was an old song he'd been recording years before.
00:38:29
Speaker
before it was broken. And now he's gone and fixed the four track and he's finished the song. And it's a re-imagining of a song that was very meaningful to me and Simon when we were sharing an attic room in the leafy suburbs of Leeds in the sun-dappled days of the last millennium.
Simon Gatemouth Richardson's Song Re-imagination
00:38:48
Speaker
And we're going to hear it now. Music
00:39:01
Speaker
So
00:39:09
Speaker
how old are you?
00:39:39
Speaker
How old are you?
00:39:54
Speaker
24 hour party people Plastic face can't stop the white style With a 24 hour party people
00:40:09
Speaker
So why don't you join?
00:40:23
Speaker
Well, I've seen you through the door. You've been chewing bread and water.
00:40:50
Speaker
You know you're no rotel
00:40:57
Speaker
You've been running around the race track You've been running around the race track So put that money to bed Put that money to bed With a 24 hour party If a plastic face can't smile or wipe out Waiting for you to condone
00:41:26
Speaker
With a 24 hour party people Plastic face can't smile It's better at your white house
00:42:00
Speaker
I need one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, four, time. I only know part time. I need three, six, five.
00:42:29
Speaker
Thank you for sending that in, Simon. Yeah, it was good, wasn't it? Some good fucking around at the start there. i I enjoyed. And then it kind of got going. And it kind of got going. Yeah. So he's had that on tape in a four track for um years, decades?
00:42:44
Speaker
Well, I think nearly a decade, yeah. Wowzers. And he's finished, he's just finished it the have week and sent it to us. That's nice, isn't it? It's lovely. i I wish I'd still got my four track.
00:42:56
Speaker
Did you recognise the song? Well, only i did wonder why it was called 24-Hour Party, people. Then obviously it's because it's a reimagining of the song by the Happy Mondays. Yeah. You were a 24-Hour Party person and in the 90s halcyon days in Leeds, weren't you?
00:43:14
Speaker
Well, tried to be. Yeah, it was one of them songs that we listened to. i think one of the main reasons Simon became my friend was because I had a copy of the album, Bombed.
00:43:26
Speaker
That was my main quality and opening gambit, really, and trying to be his friend. But you were also sharing a room with him. We did share a room. Well, yeah, we do so he couldn't really avoid you.
00:43:36
Speaker
Well, no, but we did get on pretty well. We had yeah we had kind of shared interesting music and stuff. And, yeah, it's nice to still be in touch with him. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:48
Speaker
the lyrics to that song I think acquire sort of a a ah new meaning i was just thinking about it quite a lot when I was listening to it you know the line how old are you are you old enough yes in the context of the shine on weekender and and where we are now that does certainly you are old enough well are you old enough though you certainly need to be pretty old to go to the shine on weekender i think also the line put your mother to bed yes probably has a different connotation these days put your mom to bed she's had put that put that mother to bed put that mother to bed
00:44:29
Speaker
I think some of those mothers did need put into bed because they were a little bit tired and drunk. Made me remember that, I think we might have done it more than once, where we had a bit of music and we'd get some lyrics out of a guitar songbook and just sing them over the top.
00:44:46
Speaker
I know we did it with ah You've Got to Hide Your Love Away ah yeah a young band called The Beatles. And we did a really lumpen...
00:44:59
Speaker
Oh, terrible. i mean, terrible bit of music. And we just like crowbar the lyrics on top of it. When in back in the days of space rat, I'll take it out. Well, we did a version of Love Will Tears Apart, famously, which had none of the yeah original ah music whatsoever.
00:45:17
Speaker
Oh, we did. It had the du dooo did do did do, do, do, do. That was all the way through the song. And you sort of like gamely playing three chords over the top. Yeah. Anyway, ah Simon didn't do anything that bad.
00:45:30
Speaker
No, no, no, not at so In terms of like his electronic version had something going on for it. But the original Happy Mondays version, the bass playing is really good. Paul Ryder's bass playing is really amazing on it.
00:45:43
Speaker
cover versions ah which don't have any real resemblance to the original. Maybe we should explore that. That's the thing. We can explore that, can't we?
00:45:54
Speaker
Do you reckon that could be an engagement opportunity? An engagement opportunity. Yes, course. It could be, couldn't it? Yeah. Do a cover version. Do a cover version like Simon's that doesn't really sound like the original.
00:46:08
Speaker
That'd be great. That'd be cool. I'd love to hear people doing that. have fun with it. Maybe some of our six music dads will be able to get the hurdy-gurdies out of the loft and record something for us.
00:46:20
Speaker
Definitely. Do what Simon did, send us some music. It's good. And just get involved. And Simon is still up there, gamely, plugging away, you know, working on these tunes. So that's good, right? I think that's a good thing. So we're going to encourage that and try and try and play his stuff.
00:46:38
Speaker
I wasn't sure about the Johnny Domino podcast, but I gave it a chance, and now I think I love it. Right. Time for a song by Johnny Domino. Now, this is from the third batch of songs we did as Johnny Domino.
00:46:54
Speaker
I think it was finished in the spring of 1994. God, that a long time ago. Very long time ago. That's a long time ago Very long time ago. I was getting towards the end of my second year at university.
00:47:10
Speaker
Different times. Man. Anyway, let's go back to what I was thinking of when i was writing this bit of music. Now, in our previous bands, in particular, there's a band we've mentioned before called The Millers.
00:47:23
Speaker
And, you know, we were trying to do something. I mean, I'm saying this all inverted commas. We want to do something new and groundbreaking and original. And none of it sounded groundbreaking or original.
00:47:37
Speaker
you know, there's only so many chords you can use. But I always tried to think of something like bits of music which didn't really, you know, they've all been done before, but I wanted to try and make something that sounded like new and original and was, you know pushing back the boundaries and all this kind of crap.
Nostalgia and Johnny Domino
00:47:51
Speaker
And when we started doing Johnny Domino stuff, I was very conscious of the fact I didn't want to do that. So I tried to write songs that were very, very simple. Now, I've not heard this song for a long time.
00:48:04
Speaker
And in my head, I may have gone a little bit too far in the same place it the simplicity. What, the generic? Possibly in the generic aspect, but I've not heard it for a long time.
00:48:17
Speaker
What's this song called? This song is called Jay Silver Heels....
00:48:46
Speaker
In the that's the worst thing you've got to learn. You can tell a lot about someone who what they wear on their DJ silver heels.
00:49:17
Speaker
Well, we don't think There's nothing wrong with kicking back I'm wasting time I'm wasting time
00:49:40
Speaker
I've lost my short-term memory And I've only got short-term plans I've lost my short-term memory And I've only got short-term plans
00:50:05
Speaker
Can tell a lot about someone But what they wear on their feet Silva
00:50:42
Speaker
nothing we don't think In your time, I'm gonna cry Well, we don't think
00:51:02
Speaker
oh
00:51:30
Speaker
I can tell a lot about someone.
00:51:43
Speaker
Yeah, there's a bit of the mid-Atlantic twang about some of your lines, but you can tell that you're trying to kick the habit. Yeah, i was trying it I was trying to dial it back a little bit there. Trying to dial it back.
00:51:54
Speaker
Yeah. A bit Dwayne Eddy in the guitar. Yeah, I mean, it's... That's an odd bit of music, that is. ah but Well, it's not, though, is it? very odd It's not very odd, is it?
00:52:06
Speaker
It's suspiciously not odd. I like the middle bit where it goes quiet. Yes. That was my favourite bit. The bit when it went quiet, yeah. you know I'm playing the electric guitar, i think you're playing the acoustic, and we probably recorded that out on one track, because the four track we were using at the time was the Texon 4x4, which was a four track recorder, which didn't often have four tracks for you to record on. Sometimes you'd have two, sometimes you'd have three, sometimes you'd have one.
00:52:37
Speaker
And basically you put your finger in the air and hoped for the best. And... had a go at that. i think there's a bit of lesser spotted Steve on backing vocals on various points.
00:52:48
Speaker
I mean, you know, there's a couple of tracks of you singing. Nice to hear a bit more Juvenalia, you know. We like to dig into this sometimes. Yeah, quite like them. I don't i don't i know who it was doing the back. I like the low backing vocals. I thought that was quite good. Well, that's you, think.
00:53:04
Speaker
Yeah, but thought that's worked quite well in the song. Do you know what mean? There was some good bits in it. But it was never going to get us up to the Ned's Atomic Dustman level, is it? No, that's something to be grateful for.
00:53:17
Speaker
I think we just decided we wanted to write a song with that title because Jay Silverheels was the actor who played Tonto, the Native American companion of The Lone Ranger. Of course. In the television series so The Lone Ranger.
00:53:30
Speaker
He did, yes. And he made the word kimosabe. famous didn't know you know the kinosabe which is a ah made-up word apparently i've since discovered really kind of invented it's not even a native american word it's just a word they made up ah so they couldn't even use like real native american language i know yeah do you see that's shocking that american culture would whitewash in every possible sense yeah native american culture
00:54:02
Speaker
Yeah, of course.
Johnny Depp and Cultural Heritage
00:54:03
Speaker
At a later point, Johnny Depp played Tonto in a film version of The Lone Rage, didn't he? That's problematic on so many levels. And then there was a big thing about that because he was claiming that he's got a kind of part Indian heritage, but there's people in sort disputing that on the internet. So it's all a bit murky, really. Johnny Depp is a dill hole.
00:54:26
Speaker
he is a dill hole are you going to keep that in yeah I think he's a knobhead and Jay Silverheels was not Jay Silverheels wasn't his real name I don't have his real name he was born Harold J Smith Ah, yeah. Harold J. Smith in 1912. He died age 67. Only 67.
00:54:44
Speaker
In 1980. He was an actor, stuntman, athlete, poet and salesman. ah Here are his many, many occupations. From Wikipedia, it does sound like he's got had quite a good life, actually.
00:54:56
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, remember watching The Lone Ranger, don't you? Man, he was on telly all the time, especially in summer holidays and things like that. You have a bit of Lone Ranger, then switch over and watch The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, maybe catch an episode of The Monkees.
00:55:10
Speaker
Yeah. You've got to get it all your TV watching in before it goes to 100% television. live action in inverted commas from test cricket or something yeah you know no that would just put that's your day gone then sorted but yeah lone ranger definitely hi ho silver away but what can you tell about someone from what they wear on their feet let's ask chat gtp
00:55:41
Speaker
All right, all right. He said the wrong letters. He meant GPT. Move on.
00:55:50
Speaker
What someone wears on their feet can reveal a lot about their personality, lifestyle and mood. Here are a few things that Footwear can suggest. Personality and style. Sneakers, comfortable, casual, often associated with active lifestyle.
00:56:02
Speaker
Dress shoes often signify professionalism. Flip-flops. often indicate relaxed, laid-back attitude or a warm, casual environment. Boots may indicate someone who has practical or outdoor activities, different types of boots like hiking boots, etc., etc. High heels, often associated with elegance, confidence or a formal event, and so on, and so on.
00:56:25
Speaker
While not a perfect science, analysing someone's shoes can give you subtle insights into their personality, lifestyle and preferences. Preferences of what sort of shoes they prefer to wear.
00:56:38
Speaker
I think it's a really bad idea for a song, I have to say. i don't I don't think it's interesting enough idea that shoes can tell you something about someone's personality.
00:56:50
Speaker
Well, we don't really dig into that in the verse. It's literally a line in the chorus and that's it. Yeah. so i'm not So I'm not saying this is one of our high high points, really, but I enjoyed listening to it.
00:57:03
Speaker
I enjoyed listening to it and I hope you enjoyed listening to it too, dear listener. I don't think we're going to include it probably in the next Best Of, unless there's an uproar of like massive Jay Silverheels fan club that starts or something like that.
00:57:19
Speaker
Yeah. Can I just give you some quick anagrams? Please. Elon Musk. Leon Scum. I think we have a winner. My Bloody Valentine. Malevolent Indie Boy.
00:57:32
Speaker
Tears for Fears. Fartus for Arse.
00:57:39
Speaker
There you go. Right. If you ask me when you do the show notes what the title of this episode is, if it's not Fartus for Arse, then, you know, I demand a steward's inquiry because that'd be great. Fartus for Arse.
00:57:55
Speaker
Oh, that was wonderful. Anyway, are we at the end? About, aren't we? We are about at the end of the podcast. um Thank you for listening to this episode of the This Are Johnny Domino podcast.
00:58:07
Speaker
If you have enjoyed this podcast...
Albums Off Spotify and Nostalgia
00:58:16
Speaker
Yes, I've got an end bit this time. Oh, you've interrupted yourself. I interrupted myself in a quite elaborate way. It's a callback to previous feature we've had on the podcast, and it's albums that aren't on Spotify. Now, we all know that Spotify is evil now, you know, and social, know, all this kind of crap.
00:58:36
Speaker
However, this is an album which is not on Spotify. Now, Giles. Yes. I'm taking you back to the summers of our youth. Yes. Now, we both suffered with hay fever.
00:58:48
Speaker
Very much Remember that. and you know, being brothers, we tolerated each other for a number of years. And then when you were kind of later teens and I was in my mid-teens, things like that, we figured out what we were into. And we would hide out from the hay fever and the pollen in the dining room in our parents' house, which was the coolest room in the house. It was. The sun never got in there.
00:59:11
Speaker
It dance room. And our mother would buy foil packs of Capri Sun juice drinks. Capri Sun. Yeah, Capri Sun. Frozen Capri Sun. Yeah, and we would basically spend the summer months gnawing on frozen Capri Sun packs and listening to records.
00:59:30
Speaker
You can't moan about children sat in front of their computers, can you? Do you know what I mean? Because we did exactly the same thing with Capri Sun and Records. Yeah. Do I need some Capri Sun for this bit?
00:59:42
Speaker
um I think you'll be able to taste it. It was an album that you bought, and I was not into it at first, but I think over the course of at least one summer, maybe over a couple of summers, I grew to love it.
00:59:54
Speaker
And when I realised it wasn't on Spotify, I bought it from Bandcamp. What is the album, Steve?
01:01:04
Speaker
And that album is Peruvian Vacation by the Ipswich hardcore band The Stupids. Oh, thank you for bringing back those hay fever days. But, you know, it's almost worth getting hay fever just to listen to that.
01:01:17
Speaker
Well, it's definitely given me that sort of sense memory of sitting in a dark room listening to that.
Summer Music Memories
01:01:23
Speaker
It's good album. It's a great album. Took me a while to get into it when I first heard it.
01:01:27
Speaker
bit like you. But once I got it, yeah there was no going back, really. Why did you buy it? I don't know. ah somebody i think I was trying to impress somebody, probably. I don't know.
01:01:39
Speaker
don't know. Maybe I was trying to convince myself that I liked it. Sometimes you do that, don't you? You buy things because you want to like something. Oh, yeah. But I actually did end up liking it. It was a good one. And they did a few albums with horrible titles, a couple of them. Yes. or Good band. Hardcore, skate punk.
01:01:56
Speaker
14 songs, 21 minutes. brilliant Yeah, brilliant. You can't really argue with that.
Podcast Promotion and Engagement
01:02:01
Speaker
Thanks for that, Steve. And we'll be back in a few weeks with another podcast.
01:02:07
Speaker
So stay tuned, get in touch, and like and subscribe, and tell friends, tell mother, tell your pets. Please do like and subscribe to our podcast and recommend it to someone who you think might like listening to all this kind of weird shit.
01:02:23
Speaker
Send us some of your old music and enter the eternal halls of the four-track gods.