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The Herbal Stench Of Juvenile Rebellion
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In this episode, the Domino boys save money on therapy as they address issues from their musical past, present, and future.
Listen in wonder as they…
- Rediscover the 'better, younger' band from the 90s Derby scene
- Enjoy a tribute to the Wedding Present
- Examine the evidence of a quiet Friday night in
- Evoke the industrial heritage of their locality
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Podcast artwork by Giles Woodward
Edited by Steve Woodward at PodcastingEditor.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Themes
00:00:00
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No more running down the wrong road. Dancing to a different drum. Can't you see what's going on deep inside your heart?
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Always searching for the real thing. Living like it's far away.
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Leave all the madness in yesterday. You're holding the key when you believe it.
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Shine sweet freedom, shiny light on me.
Podcast and Hosts Introduction
00:00:57
Speaker
Hello. Hello. Welcome to another episode of the This Art Johnny Domino podcast. Hello, everybody. A lighthearted and amusing and sometimes moving look at two brothers, their relationship and their musical history.
00:01:18
Speaker
Is that what it is? Yeah, well, I think so, yeah. I thought it was just two white blokes. Wanging on. Speaking, you know, in a middle-aged heterosexual way.
00:01:29
Speaker
Could be, but, you know, who's looking out for the middle-aged white blokes in media? Where do they go to get their the things that speak to them? Yeah, exactly.
00:01:40
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Thank you for adding the little bit of vocal at the end of your lyrics because I was nowhere near picking that up. Really? Until you started singing, yeah.
Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins Appreciation
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Oh man, I've been getting into the work of Mr. Michael McDonald.
00:01:55
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What a voice. You nearly got a Yammo Bee there. but a quite like that one as well. and I know, it was a toss-up. I spent the last week trying to decide whether I was going to do Sweet Freedom Yammo Bee there.
00:02:11
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Is that James Ingram and Michael McDonald on? It is It is. You know, have you listened to the Thundercat track with Michael McDonald on?
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I think I have. Does it also feature the Loggins as well? It does. It features Kenny Loggins as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's off the Drunk album, isn't it? I saw them performing it on, well, I didn't see it on TV. I saw it on YouTube, but they're performing on TV.
00:02:39
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And... Michael McDonald looks great. Kenny Loggins has done some things to his face. Oh, dear. It's not a good look.
00:02:51
Speaker
Oh, no. Not look. That's a pity. But Michael McDonald's looking good, though, he? Yeah, he just let himself go. Well, you know, he's aging normally. hes buts i don't know. i think he's a looking good for his age, really. Yeah, yeah. And he still can sing.
00:03:07
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Oh, aye. He still could sing. And I like the way on that Thundercat track, they kind of introduce him like he's like God or something. It's really good. Sounds great. If you want someone to sing ludicrous backing vocals, and ridiculous intervals.
00:03:24
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I think we're going to stop talking about Michael McDonald before before we fall out. We better to move on. Before we fall out. I love Michael McDonald. Yeah.
00:03:36
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I love him. Don't ever take his name in vain, man. Right. Get his name out of your mouth. The This Art Johnny Domino podcast. It's got bongos.
00:03:47
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Here we go What we normally do is we talk about some songs, either that we have recorded in the past or that people have sent to us or that we just like and we want to talk about.
Personal Anecdotes and Humor
00:03:57
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That's kind of what we normally do.
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But it does all eventually come back to us because it's our podcast. Right. And we're those kinds of guys. So it could be completely unrelated, but it eventually it all comes back to us. It does.
00:04:11
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It does. Me, me, me, me. Our little corner of the universe here. Yes. So what have you been up to, man? Not a huge amount.
00:04:23
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it was so It was our mother's birthday at the weekend. So everything's been kind of building up to that. That was a good time. was a good time My high point of that day was being told by my auntie Gail.
00:04:36
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Yeah. She said to me, oh, Giles, you're shooting up.
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Which is such a surreal statement. What a strange thing to say to a man who's 54. fifty fifty 54. I was like, um excuse me, i don't ever take intravenous drugs.
00:04:56
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you You are getting tall. oh you're going to catch me up, et cetera. That's weird thing cetera, et cetera. So that was weird. And that was good one then.
00:05:07
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was a lovely day. Yeah. Today I watched a good video and on the YouTube, a trash theory video. I really like his videos. You watched that series, right? Nope.
00:05:19
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And there's one about B-52s. All right. It's just put out. And what's he saying about the B-52s? He's saying
B-52s Discussion and Influence
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like the history of the B-52s. And we love the B-52s. We've mentioned it before.
00:05:32
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We've mentioned it before, yeah. But this is the first really good video I've seen for a while about them. So cool I'd check it out. Yeah. I think they're becoming popular again because we like them. Well, I was starting to tense up when you mentioned the B-52s in the similar way that you did when we were talking about Michael McDonald.
00:05:52
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I was thinking, is someone talking shit about the B-52s because i ain't having it? No, I'm not going to talk shit about the B-52s. No. They were heroes.
00:06:03
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Oh, yeah. I didn't mention the singing of Kate and Cindy last time we talked about them. And I just, I was so annoyed that I didn't mention it in the last in the podcast when we talked about them. So I'm mentioning it now.
00:06:15
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Yes, good. On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. On the 90s Derby scene, where have you been?
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On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. What musical cuisine, Stephen Jardim, are going serve today?
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And here we are with our musical cuisine again from the 90s music scene in Derby. This is actually from the noughties music scene, and not from the 90s music scene, when usually...
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We can push it though, can't we? We can push it. Well, I think we are pushing it a little bit. Yeah. Imagine, if you will, an indie pavement-esque version of Blazing Squad and you will be imagining the young gunslingers called Plans and Apologies.
Band Review: Plans and Apologies
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There are at least 20 people in the band on the stage at any time. To cut a long story short, they were the younger, better band.
00:07:23
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Oh, yeah, they were really good. For us. In relation to us. Yeah, again, bringing it back to us. and But they were a really, really good band, very original songs, incredibly tight, all pretty good looking.
00:07:39
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You know, like, it's like, for fuck's sake, man. It wasn't really fair, was it, be honest? I mean, it's like, just dial it back a bit, lads. Dial it back a bit. the old men a chance. Anyway, yeah we had some experiences with this band. We did have some experiences. You had a particular experience with this band.
00:07:56
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I still get the shivers just thinking about it, to be honest. Well, that's good in a way, because you know what do you do with trauma, Steve? ah I think I know. Tell me.
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What do you think you do? You need to externalize that trauma, man. And we need to do some therapy here. Drama therapy. You ready for this? Let's go. Setting.
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Interior of a coach. Mid-1990s. Saturday afternoon, en route to London. The cast. Steve.
Humorous Skit and Real-life Incident
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Guitarist from Johnny Domino.
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20s. Self-serious and bookish. Emma, Steve's girlfriend, sharp-tongued, sips from a thermos. Bozo, bassist from Plans and and Apologies, wiry, chaotic, and he talks like a beatnik.
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Jude, singer of Plans and Apologies, dreamy and a bit vague. Eddie, drummer of Plans and Apologies, he's a bit of a practical joker.
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And then there's Mr. Whittaker, the co-founder of Artists Against Success. He's in his mid-40s. I imagine he's balding and he's tightly, rather tightly wound, bit wound up.
00:09:19
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And then in the background, there are other band members and other hangers-on kind of chattering. Cool. um And in our bald, positive frame of mind, there's nothing wrong with Mr. Whittaker potentially balding.
00:09:33
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No, it's just part of the character. Part the character. Bold positive. Yeah, absolutely. Bold positive. We love you. We see you. Thank you very much.
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The coach hums with excited chatter. Rows of mismatched Indy kids sprawl with instruments and snacks. At the back, Steve and Emma sit stiffly. In front, Bozo, Jude and Eddie huddle together with manic glee.
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Bozo, rolling a joint, says... Say daddy-o, this gig's gonna knock the wax out of London's ears, man. We are the scene, dig?
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Jude. It's all vibes, cosmic vibrations and snare rolls, baby. Eddie. Fast that jazz cigarette, Bose.
00:10:25
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Let's elevate. Oh, he's a bit more of a deviant, isn't he? That one, Eddie. You've got to watch him. I'm picturing him. Yeah. The others are more like hippies, aren't they?
00:10:36
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Yeah, yeah. Right. Next is Emma. Ugh. That's not Earl Grey. Steve. Undoubtedly.
00:10:47
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The herbal stench of juvenile rebellion. God, they're like a walking enemy article. Can't we just have a civilised arrival and a nice cup of tea? This isn't Glastonbury.
00:11:00
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This isn't Glastonbury. There you go, that's better. Okay, very nice. Suddenly, the coach slows. Murmurs spread. A few heads turn.
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The coach pulls onto the hard shoulder. A tense silence falls, then footsteps. Enter Mr Whittaker, storming up the aisle.
00:11:23
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Mr Whittaker. Unbelievable. This is a contracted vehicle, not a sodding commune on wheels. He stops in front of plans and apologies, who have hastily shoved the joint into the guitar case.
00:11:41
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I'd paid a deposit, gentlemen. A refundable deposit. This is not a bloody Stone Rose's tour bus. The band feign confusion.
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Jude clutches a Dreamcatcher necklace. Jude says... Mr Whittaker, we're as innocent as sleeping lambs in a field of conscience.
00:12:06
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now i Right, who's responsible? I smell it. Everyone smells it. What the hell is going on here? Bozo says innocently.
00:12:19
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Whoa, Mr. W. We're clean as vinyl on first play. If there's a skunky vibe, it's wafting... Sorry. It's wafting back from those cats behind us.
00:12:33
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Jude. Yeah, that fellow with the Penguin Classic and the lady with the Thermos behind us. They were giggling something fierce. Eddie.
00:12:45
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I'm sure I saw bongo under his seat. Oh, Eddie. Eddie? Eddie's dobbing him in. I know, what a shit. Little bastard. Mr Whittaker.
00:12:57
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You two? Smoking dope? Really, Steve?
00:13:05
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Emma. Offended. Excuse me, this thermos contains nothing but dark healing. Steve says. This is absurd.
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i have allergies. See, there's truth. There's truth in the drama. Right. The coach starts moving again. And Mr Whittaker walks off grumbling.
00:13:31
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Eddie. Flipped it like pancakes, Bowles. Genius. Bozo says, Never trust a man with a library in his lap.
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Steve to Emma, fuming. I swear on Johnny Domino's discography, I'll clear my name. Perhaps after your tea.
00:13:57
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Lights dim as the coach fades into the distance, heading towards a gig no one will ever forget. And at that gig, they played something like this.
00:14:11
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um
00:14:19
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There's a fresh breeze blowing from European waters. You can let out your daughters. I've become obsessed and though it's so complicated and perhaps overrated, my desire has been baited. Want to see her undress, want to caress her body like a
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And my life is a mess, and my sheets are a mess. Had to guess I've been granted something slightly enchanted and some happiness.
00:14:51
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We thought you said you were not falling off. That was then, this is now, I didn't plan. This is the opposite of what you did.
00:15:10
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Everything will fall apart, but I do not care When I'm with her I feel happy and I smile like a fool And I say shit that's not cool And I see she's still there We thought you said you were not falling off That was then, this is now, I didn't plan This is the opposite, opposite
00:15:38
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There's a fresh breeze blowing and she reciprocated, where neither did wait it, didn't scare her off, she bit point and scoff or tell me I am a moron, unlike women before on, my insane ramble.
00:16:57
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Plans and apologies. Yeah, and that is a song called Ever the Optimist from their album Soz, which was released in 2011.
Memorable Gig Recount
00:17:08
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And it says this releases our final album, finished posthumously in bedrooms and then polished up in the studio. They didn't play that song on the gig. But you were travelling down to a gig, weren't you, Steve? Yeah, yeah. We were travelling down to a gig and back. It was a gig at the fabled Windmill in Brixton, birthplace of bands like Black Middy and Black Country New Road.
00:17:31
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And that whole windmill Brixton scene with a dog on the roof. If you remember, there a dog on the roof. And it was an artists against success event. So a lot of bands from the label played, including us.
00:17:43
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They organized a coach for people from Derby to go down and come back. And I was on the coach with my girlfriend of the time. Now my wife, Emma. of the Earl Grey and ah my now sister-in-law and her then boyfriend.
00:17:58
Speaker
And there's a coach filled with Derby luminaries. You guys all went down in the car and we did the gig. And the events that were dramatized in that little play actually happened on the way back from the gig.
00:18:11
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ah So they did actually happen. Yeah. it was exactly like that. It was almost it was exactly like that. It was after the case. Okay, right. All 30 members of Plans and Apologies took up most of the coach.
00:18:23
Speaker
There were only three of them speaking in the play, obviously. But all 40 members were smoking weed on the bus, and the bus driver copped it and pulled up and said, if you don't stop smoking weed, I'm going to boot you all off the coach.
00:18:37
Speaker
And this was like going back middle of the night on the M1. And ah he stopped at the Plans and Apologies boys and they kind of beckoned backwards. They came up to us and he had a bit of a teachery face on him and basically threatened to boot us off the coach.
00:18:52
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And it started again and it was it was not pleasant. And at the event, everybody who attended was given a bag of records and CDs from Artists Against Success artists.
00:19:05
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And I had ah copy of the first Plans and Apologies album in my bag. I feel like I need to give you a hug now. No, it's okay. It's okay. After that. I'm getting i'm so building up to something.
00:19:16
Speaker
And the album was called Torn Out Pages from the Middle Ages. And I thought, those wankers nearly got me thrown off the coach. I listened to the album. And the annoying thing was, it was fucking great. Well, yeah.
00:19:29
Speaker
And they're nice blokes. And they're criminally underrated band, I would say. Yeah. but Maybe it's time for a revival. I think so. We did a couple of gigs with them over a couple of Christmases at the famous Blessington Carriage in Derby.
00:19:44
Speaker
Well, we actually only did one with them, I think, at the Bless. And then we did our last ever gig. was a Christmas gig at a place called The Vaults in Derby. And they were headlining and we were supporting them.
00:19:55
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Nice chaps. Yes. Nice chaps. Apart from the excessive weed smoking and blame passing. I can forgive both of those things, really.
00:20:13
Speaker
Steve, we've got so far through the podcast and you haven't played my new jingle yet. Well, here it comes.
00:20:33
Speaker
We're making a podcast in the face of certain doom. We are this our Johnny Domino. We're making a podcast and we're playing our skill tunes.
00:20:45
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This is this our Johnny Domino. We're brothers, we wear glasses. We've got medical conditions.
00:20:56
Speaker
We've both been alive for a while.
Creating Podcast Jingles
00:21:03
Speaker
We're making a podcast in the face of certain doom. It's time for the Sanjani Domino. Oh, something like that, anyway. It's a very nice jingle.
00:21:14
Speaker
Might play that one again. Played that one on the old keytar. So, Steve. Yes? That jingle, can you pick up any influence on the style anywhere in that?
00:21:26
Speaker
No, I think it's an entirely new form of music. Yeah. It's the bluegrass rhythm. It's beautiful. I particularly like the ah little banjo figure on it It's great. Yes. What influence do you think there was?
00:21:38
Speaker
Obviously, Steve, it's from one of the godfathers of podcasting, Adam Buxton, obviously. obviously i started making it and then I just realized that's clearly just an Adam Buxton ripoff.
00:21:52
Speaker
But I quite liked it. So there you go i'm going to call it a tribute. Okay. I think you've already also created a tribute one, haven't you? Yeah. and It's horrible because... Should we play that one a bit later on?
00:22:04
Speaker
Cool. it'll just It'll be nice. It'll fit in nicely. It's time to talk about... i don't know. I don't really understand entirely what the PRF... series thing is website band camp thing is but you do so maybe you could tell us about it but I like it and I was listening to the wedding present thing Anyway, go tell us about Yeah, the description on the Bandcamp page explains
PRF Tribute Series Explained
00:22:28
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it.
00:22:28
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A band is picked at the start of the month. Musicians have the full month to record songs by that band or about that band or in the style of that band. It's quite loose. At the end of the month, participants vote for the top three recordings.
00:22:42
Speaker
The winning entry selects the next month's band and good times and killer recordings since 2014. So they've been doing this for a long-ass time. There's a lot of them, isn't there? Yeah, yeah. I scrolled down the page. There's loads.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, and May 2025 was the wedding present, and the whole month was won by our good friend Frankie Machine. Oh, yes, he did. And it's I know that we played ah Frankie song last episode of this old Johnny Domino podcast.
00:23:10
Speaker
So we might be coming across a little bit Frankie heavy. But I heard this the other day, you played it to me. yeah And I just thought that's too good to not play. It's a great version of what I think is one of the wedding presents weakest songs.
00:24:21
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I'll see next time.
00:25:18
Speaker
Apple pie. Oh, have you lost your love of life? Too much apple pie. And I'll have you swung away with Johnny's wife.
00:25:35
Speaker
You've got your things on the floor. You've got your left side.
00:28:01
Speaker
That's lovely, isn't it? That's beautiful, that was. It's a really great version. and The gentleman playing saxophone is a member of the PRF at Tribute Series group called Gary Garn.
00:28:14
Speaker
And Gary is basically, yeah he's a musician in his own right, but he is effectively the saxophone player for hire. There was a high percentage of people, particularly in the wedding present month, where he supplied saxophone.
00:28:30
Speaker
Oh, I see. So he's featured on a few of them. Right. Yeah. Right. But that one won, right? Yeah. That one won that we just listened to. And I think deservedly so.
00:28:41
Speaker
Me too. I think it's great. Having listened to everything else, there's some interesting stuff there. Yes. I think the wedding present's an interesting one because I think the songs are quite good.
00:28:55
Speaker
but you could tend to sort of just go for something that sounds a bit like the wedding present. I don't The lyrics, I think his voice is hard to um do something with.
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah. To avoid sounding like Dave Gedge. Yeah. What is it next month? It's Billy Idol. I asked that question rhetorically because we are currently in the process of trying to put together a Billy Idol cover.
Future Tribute Projects Debate
00:29:22
Speaker
Yes, we are. To enter into the gladiatorial combat of the the PRF tribute series. Yeah.
00:29:33
Speaker
And we'll see what our house does. If we win... I think our choice for the next artist could be, I'm thinking Michael McDonald or status quo.
00:29:46
Speaker
ah Status quo. Okay. Anyhow, we will see. You're going to some input on this. You can have some input. on Thanks. it's It's nice to know that I am needed for for some things.
00:29:58
Speaker
Look, podcasting editor, you're doing a great job. All right. Hey, do you want to hear my, ah my jingle? Yeah, I think I do, actually. Yeah, I think I do want to hear your ah jingle.
00:30:09
Speaker
It's a bit like one of those jingles that Adam Buxton will sort slip in there in the middle of a conversation with, like, Sue Lawley or something.
00:30:22
Speaker
Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle. Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle.
00:30:41
Speaker
Yeah, I think the yeah the drum and bass beat definitely makes it Buxton-like. Buxton-esque. Buxton-esque, yes. I love a bit of drum and bass, and it was good. Oh, yeah.
00:30:53
Speaker
Very nice. always very Play that one again, I reckon. We'll play that one again. Lovely. Thanks, Frankie. Amazing work. You're a legend. A legend.
00:31:05
Speaker
You know, when we're doing our Billy Idol cover, Sir William of Idol, should we get Gary to do something other than play sax? Gary Garn. We could get Gary to play... The kazoo?
00:31:17
Speaker
The kazoo or a comb and paper or something. Com and paper, was thinking comb and paper. Or get to play the violin. Or something he can't play. Actually, I'll just say, what can't you play?
00:31:29
Speaker
Could you get hold of a flute or a sack book? That's the sort of stupid thing that we would do. We're not going to do that. We're going to make a really, really, really good Billy Idol cover that's going to appeal can appeal to the mass of
00:31:46
Speaker
I wasn't sure about the Johnny Domino podcast, but I gave it a chance, and now I think I love it. This podcast is called This Our Johnny Domino, and so we need to talk about at least one Johnny Domino song, the original remit of the podcast being to select songs to go on a Best of Johnny Domino mixtape.
Johnny Domino Song Analysis
00:32:08
Speaker
And you selected the song that we're talking about today. Did I? Yes, you did, because I sent you a cryptic message earlier today, didn't I? didn't.
00:32:18
Speaker
We had a choice of two. were deciding between two instrumental tracks, and I couldn't decide on which one, so I'll let you choose. but you turned it around and made it so I've chosen.
00:32:31
Speaker
Absolutely. That's exactly what I did. Thanks. I said, pick a number from seven, 10, 12 or 13. You chose 12, which means you selected ah song called Johnny bloody domino.
00:32:46
Speaker
Oh dear. That's the one that I'm most scared of playing, but he's definitely got something. Shall we just go straight into it? Give people a little bit of a health and safety warning.
00:32:58
Speaker
Well, both songs that were up for selection were examples of the kind of things it can do when you live with your mum and dad and you've got a four-track machine plugged into a stereo permanently and you have musical instruments in your room, and you have nothing to do.
00:33:17
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I think this was a particularly good Friday night. I just thought, let's just do something. Have a bit of fun. Having a bit of lighthearted, easygoing fun on my own in my bedroom.
00:34:04
Speaker
I think it's ah it's ah it's a piece of work, man.
00:34:41
Speaker
I really like that really high note. know, you can't edit that bit out. Here we go.
00:34:48
Speaker
Come on. Bring it home.
00:35:34
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i
00:36:01
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Oh, God.
00:36:42
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Your hero of Christmas!
00:37:21
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of andness It's been very difficult growing up with such a talented sibling, actually. oh shut up. We've never talked about that.
00:37:32
Speaker
Very hard. Hard to deal with. short I think I'm mentally scarred from that, actually. Oh, give over. Look, that was just a... I tell you what, that was a lot of fun doing it. I remember it.
00:37:46
Speaker
Yeah. Because I recorded it all at half speed with the express purpose of turning it all up to double speed. um So we I didn't have a bass guitar, so it's just like three tracks of guitar.
00:38:00
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All the feedback is from the headphones. So I was obviously playing quite loud in my headphones. Distorted drum machine. Everyone loves a bit distorted drum machine. yeah the old juicers going. in And then I played it at the slow speed, and I quite liked that as well.
00:38:15
Speaker
So I mixed two versions of it, one fast, one slow, put them both on the four track, and then we recorded some backwards vocals. Backwards vocals at the end. I have no idea what we're saying. i imagine it's something stupid.
00:38:30
Speaker
I imagine it's nothing to do with Satan whatsoever. Well, I can play at you. It's still quite difficult to hear. Send naked photos.
00:38:41
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Send naked photos.
00:38:45
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Phone your parents.
00:38:51
Speaker
Turn that music down. Turn that music down. Drugs are bad for you.
00:39:05
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Drink more tea.
00:39:20
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Send us all your money.
00:39:28
Speaker
Okay. Yes. Okay, good message. So that narrowly missed out on being included on the album, I imagine.
00:39:39
Speaker
Well, I recorded it for inclusion on Rabbit Themes,
Reflecting on Past Musical Creations
00:39:42
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our first album. Yeah, narrowly missed out. I think we could have lost a couple of other songs off there. and got that one on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:51
Speaker
Just to lighten things up a little bit. I'm not sure. don't know. I liked it. I thought it was a little bit scary for me, actually, today. But in some moods, I would quite like that.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah. Do you think it would possibly be one for inclusion in the next? Very best of this old Johnny Domino. Yeah. Volumes one and two already out. Volume three coming at some point.
00:40:15
Speaker
Yes. I enjoy listening to it. Depends if anybody else enjoys listening to it. Or if no one enjoys listening to it, we might just include it anyway. Well, are you thinking you want to? I like it.
00:40:29
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I like it, but then I did it. You know what I mean? It's like, it was just a very free time. You know, I was able to just set things up and knock something out like that. I think some people would like that. There's loads of music like that out there that's like a bit extreme. You know, lots of people like that kind of stuff.
00:40:48
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It's time for the This Our Journey.
00:41:06
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Long time listeners to the podcast will remember the name Leon of Uncle Sham and the legendary Nice Trombone.
Tribute to Leon’s Album
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Previous appearances on the This Our Johnny Domino podcast, which we can link in the show notes. Leon records a lot of music under the name Erstwhile Friend, and he recently released an album called A Hill of Cinders.
00:41:38
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He sent it to us to have a listen. We liked it, and got him to send us some words about it. Hi Giles, hi Steve. Thanks so much for playing the title track for my new album, Hill of Cinders.
00:41:50
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The album was inspired by my childhood memories of Babington Colliery in Nottingham. My grandparents lived a stone's throw from the pit, and in the 70s and 80s, my parents would drive and take us to visit them most weekends.
00:42:00
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The route took us right past the colliery, and some of my earliest memories as a child are of watching the headstock wheels turning as we drove by. I've tried to create some sort of narrative for the album, beginning with the sun rising over the headstocks, the winding gear lowering a cage full of men down to the coal face, the dangers faced by the miners, and the ultimate sacrifice many of them made to literally keep the home fires burning.
00:42:22
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The album finishes off with the inevitable downturn of the pit, triggered by the miners' strike, then its closure and eventual regeneration of the site. The title track that you were so kindly playing features a brass section to evoke the brass bands who played for the colliery.
00:42:36
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There's some strange symmetry with the Johnny Domino podcasts, as the trombone is played by Mark, a mutual friend of Steve and myself, who actually introduced me to the podcast in the first place. Bruce is on sax, who played in Nice Rambone, and Chris is on tuba, who played in Uncle Sham, both of which bands have been played on this R. Johnny Domino.
00:42:55
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Anyway, thanks again, and keep up the good work, chaps.
00:43:16
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
00:45:22
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The next step is to make a new life.
00:45:56
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Thank you.
00:47:27
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Oh, could you see the sun coming up over the ah pit head there? It took you back to your youth working down the mine, did it, Giles? No, because I didn't work down the mine.
00:47:42
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But our father did. He certainly did. by the age of 14, he got something stupid. He did, and he worked at a pit very near to the Babington Colliery, which Leon was talking about there, Clifton Pit.
00:47:57
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And, you know, I remember growing up around stuff to do with coal mines and things, but they were all kind of being run down to that point, really. And that music I thought was absolutely beautiful, very evocative.
00:48:13
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And maybe just think of the sun coming up behind that pit head and seeing that quite beautiful, actually, in a way, in a kind of an ugly industrial way. Yeah.
00:48:24
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Blind Freddy could see that was a good song. Blind Freddy could see that she was just using Emma. Oh Chloe, come off it. Blind Freddy could see that you're still in love with him. Well, I reckon Blind Freddy could see she played rings around the other girl. Well, assuming Blind Freddy wasn't deaf, I suppose he could.
00:48:40
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It's about time Blind Freddy could see you were meant to be together. Oh, come on now. Blind Freddy could see how much time you two have been spending together lately. And it might be easier if Blind Freddy didn't see so much of us hanging out together, right?
00:48:53
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What do you mean, what do I think? There's nothing to think. They're ruined. Blind Freddy can say that. Blind Freddy could see that that was a good song. ah true I've got to use that phrase a bit more. Blind Freddy.
00:49:06
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Thank you to Leon. Man, I think that ah the whole album is good, actually. If you listen to the whole album, that's the title track. The whole album's great. It works as as a whole piece.
00:49:18
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um It paints a really amazing picture. i love all the tracks on it, really, but I like listening to the whole thing. It's really nice to have some brass instruments being used in that way with the electronic sounds, and I really do think it's a great piece of work, so i want more people to hear it.
Admiration for Leon’s Narrative
00:49:37
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Beautiful. so that's why we're playing it, isn't it, Steve? Because we want people to hear it, right? Absolutely, yeah. Thank you, Leon, for your music and your words and for your continued listening to our Bizarre podcast. And yes, and Leon has got involved in the past in some of our engagement opportunities.
00:49:57
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Yes. Hasn't he? He has. I did have ah another version of engagement opportunities. This is Russian. Okay. Vosmosnost uscastia.
00:50:08
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Engagement opportunities there. Can you say that once more for the people in the back? Vosmosnost uscastia. Mmm. Tasty. And Turkey Paul sent us one, didn't he?
00:50:20
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right kaal maus sat It's quite amusing because it's got his wife at the front end of it going, what you doing in Turkish? And then he does this engagement opportunities.
00:50:31
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So I quite like that. and like that That wasn't the version that he wanted me to use, but there you go. Cool. ah Well, we are at the end of the podcast. So let's say thank you to Plans and Apologies for being massive stoners and their fantastic music.
00:50:51
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Thank you to Frankie for being great. and Dave, not Dave Garn, Gary Garn. Dave Garn. Dave Garn. He doesn't play the saxophone on the Frankie song. love Dave Garn. He's a tidy dancer, that guy.
00:51:07
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Were they the first band you saw live? Yeah, they were. i thought They were They were very good as well. Everything Couch Tour, 1983. Amazing.
00:51:19
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So, yeah, ah thank you, Frankie and Gary, brother of Dave Garn, ah for his saxophone playing. Thanks to me for being bored on a Friday night. And thanks to Giles and Jim for being bored and recording some random noises backwards.
00:51:35
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And thank you to Leon again. Yeah, and thanks for everybody for listening. Yeah. And please do, No, actually, I have got an end bit.
00:51:49
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Interrupt yourself. Go for it.
00:51:52
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I've interrupted myself. Go go on. I've interrupted myself. Talking about Turkey, Turkey Paul, I've been getting into a bit of Turkish music.
Exploring Turkish Rock Music
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Oh, God, you have.
00:52:03
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Baris Mancho. Born in 1943, Turkish rock musician, singer, composer, actor, TV star, and general cultural hero of Turkey.
00:52:15
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His older brother was called Savas, I think. That might be terrible. Savas, which means war in Turkish. And then his brother and father had another son, Barış.
00:52:30
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And that means peace. in Turkish. So they had war, two brothers, war and peace. And peace, Barış Manco, went on to be a rock star. A main figure in the anattolo Anatolian yeah rock scene, which is basically Turkish psychedelic rock.
00:52:51
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And I've been listening to quite a lot of it. I'm loving the busy bass lines, spacey synths, the kind of weirdly alien chord... movements and the earnest vocals there is an album the title of which I cannot even begin to say it's got the word disco in it and mancho basically it's the album that's got the most ridiculous cover that's the way I always try and choose which album to listen to when I'm confronted with a lot of albums on Spotify by an artist I don't know I chose the one with the most ridiculous cover he's standing against a red background and he looks like a wizard and it's a weird album because it's got like
00:53:31
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Loads of songs, but they seem like quite shortened version. So it's quite nice because you get kind of shorter blasts of these songs. but yeah that They're all great.
00:53:43
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Colbasti, Daglar, Daglar, which means mountains, mountains. And then there's the one English track called Nick the Chopper. Oh, you yes, that's the one you sent me in the video and I said, is this Matt Berry? Yeah, think play a little bit of it now.
00:54:31
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Anyway, that's what I'm getting
Humorous Anecdote about Baris Mancho
00:54:34
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into. So Barish was peace and his brother was war. What was he good for?
00:54:42
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No!
00:54:46
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anyway this's workss what i'm but getting into so barish was peace and his brother was war what was what was he good for
00:54:59
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No! What was he good for? No, Steve! Come on. You got the funniest joke in the whole episode there.
00:55:10
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no one thinks it's funny. Jesus. Well, have fun with that, everybody. Okay. I'm sure that occurred to quite a few people as you were talking about War and Peace.
00:55:22
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00:55:36
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