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More Snickers and More Delay
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An intriguing title for an episode, I think you’ll agree.
Featuring:
- Old music and "less old" music
- Talking about books and movies and stuff
- Poetry and brotherhood
The This Are Johnny Domino podcast - bringing the realness.
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Transcript
Introduction and Energetic Scene Setting
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Beyond the palace, hemi-powered drones scream down the boulevard. Girls comb their hair in rear-view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard.
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The amusement park rises bold and stark. Kids are huddled on the beach in the mist. I want to die with you, Wendy, on the streets tonight, in an everlasting kiss.
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Music
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And may the road rise to meet
Meet the Hosts: Brothers and Musical Collaborators
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you. Welcome to another fun-packed episode of the This Art Johnny Domino podcast.
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Hello, Stephen. Hello, Giles. We're brothers. And basically, we've been longtime musical collaborators, haven't we, Steve? Yes. Longtime collaborators.
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And long time, let's be honest, if we were enemies for a long time in our childhood. the Kind of passive enemies, you just like grudging annoyance. Do you not think that's how the relationship continues to this day, really? It depends. It depends. At the moment, I feel like I'm recording this in Satan's sweaty butt crack because it's hotter than hell.
Lyric Origins and Song Preferences
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Did you get the lyrics from the intro? Obviously, yes. What are they? There's some weird words in there. that Those are the words to Bruce Springboks' Born to Run. That's right. It is.
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But you know what? I was doing the lyrics of the Frankie Goes to Hollywood version because I think that version is better controversially. What do you think? Well, that was the first version we heard. Can you remember when we bought that album?
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I do. I do remember that album called Welcome to the Pleasure Dome, 1984. But I remember when we bought it. I think we went halves on it because it was expensive. It was a double.
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And I believe that when dad saw some of the photos on the inner sleeve, particularly when Paul Rutherford's got his hands down the front of his Jean Genet boxer shorts, um I think dad wanted to take it back.
00:02:21
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Yeah. I don't think he was that keen on that bit where Prince Charles is talking about orgasms. Well, he probably never heard that bit. Good album, though. Pretty good, but overlong, let's be honest.
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I don't know, man. It's good. I've been i've been thinking about it a lot because I've been reading a book by Trevor Horn, oh nice the producer of said album.
The Influence of Trevor Horn
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And it's kind of like a musical autobiography called Trevor Horn Adventures in Modern Recording.
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And a really good book. I'm enjoying it very much. In fact, I've read it all. I've enjoyed it very much. Cool. It's good. And I chose to read the book because I watched, and this is another link, I watched the Adam Curtis series that's on iPlayer at a moment called Shifty. Have you watched it?
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I'm about three and half, four episodes into it. Because Trevor Horn features in that, doesn't he? I really like Adam Curtis's stuff. I'm missing his voice. Yeah. He doesn't talk in this series. at all, no.
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And it's quite tiring because you've got to look at everything while it's on. And it's quite that sounds such a whack thing to say. But you've got to concentrate, which is what he wants. He wants you to concentrate.
00:03:37
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Yeah. It's like all this stuff. It's really intense and good. yeah But Trevor Horn features in it because basically, you know, Trevor Horn invents the 80s sound of music basically.
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Because he was the first guy to get a fair light in this country and figure out to use it. Well, yeah. And I think it isn't Adam Curtis's point about the fact that he's basically invented the end of the band.
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you Kind of, yeah. yeah Some of the best stuff in the book is about him working with Frankie Goes to Hollywood. yeah And famously, Frankie Goes to Hollywood didn't really play an awful lot on their records, really.
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Not any of the successful ones, anyway. But he does really give props to the bass player. Oh, God, what's his name? I can't remember his name, man. But he did say that the bass player was good. And, you know, Trevor Horn was a bass player.
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Yeah. And he could have he could have re-recorded it, but he didn't. He kind of kept a lot of the bass player. That's cool. We really did quite like Frankie Goes to Hollywood for a while, like the rest of the country. Yeah.
00:04:41
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I was i would remember being very, very scared by an advert for Two Tribes in Smash Hits, which is a whole page talking about the effects of a nuclear attack and how far the radiation clouds would spread.
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thought, I don't want to think about
Frankie Goes to Hollywood: Influence and Anecdotes
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that. No, no. But as a band, they were the right kind of sort of scary for me, certainly when I was that age. Do you know what i mean? It was like just a bit, oh, it's a bit edgy.
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And yeah, I didn't really understand any of the sort of imagery really, but it was cool. That was what ZTT did though, isn't it? Because my favourite band from that period, oh you know, you must have wanted to smack me because I was an incredibly... That would have been unusual.
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No, but I was such an incredibly pretentious 12-year-old that my favourite band, 12, 13-year-old, my favourite band was Propaganda. Yeah, well, they were good.
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There's a good chapter about them in the book as well. Oh, cool. Yeah. They decided they didn't want to work with ZTT after their album. ah secret onench yeah The one that was quite successful. They sort of the they kind of say, oh, we're too big now.
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don't want to work with you. They're now currently residing in the Where Are They Now file, aren't they? Yeah, so he kind of he kind of does a little bit of smirking over that. ah It's a good book. He's quite honest about people in it, you know, in positive ways, but also in sort of slightly, you know, his his opinion if he doesn't like somebody or he thinks somebody's a bit of a knob.
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He does Dish the Dirt. Cool. there's ah There's a really good story about Paul McCartney, actually, which I'm not going to tell you, but you should read the book. It's good. I'll lend it to you. That sounds good. Thank you. Yeah. So that's Trevor Horn, Adventures in Modern Recording. What have you been reading?
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Well, I've finished a couple of weeks ago the book that my wife and my wife bought me
History of the Music Press and Melody Maker
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called Totally Wired. Not about the fall, though. It's about the rise and fall of the music press. And one of my favorite facts was in like the opening pages.
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It says, in the beginning was the Melody Maker, which was monthly and launched in 1926. by a 38-year-old jack-of-all-trades whose name was Lawrence Wright.
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And the cover star of the first issue was ah songwriter called Horatio Nichols. He was referred to as the world's greatest popular composer. So interviewed him and talked about his music.
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um But it turns out that the journalist... was the songwriter. He was writing under a nom de plume. So he was basically it was but he set up the magazine to sell his own songs.
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um that I love it. It's a bit like this old Jolly Domino. Isn't that such a great story, though? mean That's like where all of the music press started. This guy thinking, I've written these songs, no one's interested. I'm going to write a magazine where I'm bigging myself up.
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ah That's brilliant. It's a really good book. One of my favorite bits is in the 80s where the offices of NME and Melody Maker are across the road from Smash Hits and everybody who's working for the NME and Melody Maker are looking at the Smash Hits building and thinking, I really wish I worked at Smash Hits because they're having such a lot of fun.
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It was more fun. and the And the numbers were insane. that Every two weeks it was ridiculous. one thing that's interesting what i thought it was interesting interesting there was a a dance focus magazine called boys own which is you know andy weatherall yeah yeah aircut stuff and you it's all about larging it and going to ibiza and you can see there's a direct line between that and lad culture yeah it's nuts because i didn't realize that i was reading the book i was thinking i know exactly where this is going to end up
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And it just leads you straight to loaded and FHM.
Impact of the Internet on Music Press
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And the the whole book is really, really interesting. But at the end of it, it goes and then the internet. And that's the end of it. It doesn't talk about things like pitchfork or stereo gum or, if you remember this one, MP3 blogs.
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Because we had one of them, didn't we? did We did for a while, yeah. Yeah, that was a bit of a weird period in history as well, wasn't I thought that was cool, you know. It was cool. We just like picked a song and went, oh, we like this band, here's a song, here's some stuff you can buy.
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o Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle.
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jing chingoo jing guing gu ching This is this our Johnny Domino. As we ah we mentioned, we may have mentioned already, we talk a lot about songs that we've recorded in the past. We talk about new songs that are going on and people that were playing gigs with us back in the day.
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And we're doing one of each of those in this episode.
Early Band Days and Song Evolution
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But we did start off the podcast pretty much, well, exclusively just playing stuff from our own mounting of recordings, basically.
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And we've still got some. Yeah. And this song that we're going to talk about, is it's unnamed it's unnamed it was the first track on our album rabbit themes what year did we record that Steve just put it in context I think we did it 98 99 now the now the ninety s and the 80s, but especially the 90s, they were a wild time.
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Crazy. They were a crazy time. And it was if you remember, before Steve Albini died, lots of people were kind of saying, oh, you're a really bad man, and everything that's wrong with the internet, you're responsible for.
00:10:09
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And he said, yes, I know, and I take responsibility for that. I think I was a bit harsh, really. No, no, but it was this thing called Edgelord. and He was basically going, yes, I can see how you think it's all from me.
00:10:20
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And we thought at the time all the fights were won. And there's something about the 90s. They were like that. All of the fights had been won. So you have things like... I'm not saying this was good at the time, but like Little Britain with racist jokes and Bo Selector where effectively Leif, is it Leif Francis?
00:10:41
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He's doing blackface, but you know, it's okay because I'm not racist. It's this kind of middle-class racism that it's okay because I know I'm right. But you know, the effects are the same now.
00:10:53
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Yeah. now At the time of recording Rabbit themes, I bought with my wages from Virgin Megasort, I bought myself a PlayStation. yeah And we used to sort of but have band practices and we'd play PlayStation.
00:11:05
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One of the games we played was Parappa the Rapper. Oh, great game. Great game. It was a game where you had to sort of match... a rhythm of a song and and kind of rap along by pressing buttons basically right you were a cartoon dog you were a cartoon dog yeah you were and at one of the times we were playing it Jim says oh that song sounds like can yeah it's a song called turtle has short legs it really does sound like can it basically is the can song
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All right, we're here, just sitting in the
Parappa the Rapper and Song Inspiration
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car. I want you to show me if you can get far. There you go. And there's Damo Suzuki. Yes. Of Cannes. Step on the gas.
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day you go and there's demon suzuki yes of
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Step on the brakes. Step on the brakes. Step on the brakes. Step on the brakes. Step on the gas. Hey, hey, hey, you sure know to drive, man. I have nothing else to teach you no more.
00:12:23
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No, it was not on Papa Parappa, the rapper of the game. That was like something that you've put together there. but But it was exactly the same song, basically. and And, you know, we wrote this song that was we thought was kind of sounded a bit like Cannes.
00:12:38
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It didn't sound like Cannes. It didn't sound like Cannes. And we gave it a title that I'm not particularly proud of. And it's just really stupid. you know You're not going to say the title.
00:12:52
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I don't know. Do you think we should? I don't know, Steve. I think, I think it doesn't make much sense to people unless you say the title. Okay. I don't want to. I don't want to.
00:13:04
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Okay. well I'm regretting talking about this song now. Why? It's a good song. It is a good song. i think we should, let's put the song on. I mean, this was to this was track one on our album, rabbit themes, right?
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And, uh,
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I know that have let you down in the past Now I'm here to let you know I'm back I used to be
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I down the road, I've got everything mapped out in my mind.
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stickers and more delay
Humor in Song Title Changes
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There go. So that was a fun little track by our band, Johnny Domino. And it was called Turtle Reg, which was oh-so-funny joke based on the idea that we thought that Deimo Suzuki sounded like he was saying Turtle Reg on the Cancel.
00:17:43
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But we're going to change the title. Yeah. But I do like a lot of stuff about that song. It's good recording. And I really like that line. The voice inside my head says, more Snickers and more delay.
00:17:56
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Yes. i said a a a a a Another in a long series of Bill Hicks references. Yes. When he's getting the adverts, he's lost all the teeth out of his mouth from saying, more Snickers, more Snickers. Yeah.
00:18:10
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It's the first time I've listened to that song for a long time. And I think it's too good for it to be stymied by having a crap name, which is like... What you want to call it then? I don't know. ah Look, I'm always terrible. It's all right, Steve. It's all right. we've we've got we're getting We're getting through the hard hard times. The hard time.
00:18:28
Speaker
We're going to call it something else. Okay. But one of the things I enjoyed that time, there's the line, I have let words slip that made you cry. But sometimes i hear it and it sounds like I've let one slip that made you cry. And, you know, we were a bunch of stinky boys in a room recording in a full track.
00:18:47
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So, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, it was a stupid thing to call the first song on our first album, and it wasn't funny. so Anyway, I'm not going to beat ourselves up about it anymore. No, we're Let's call it more Snickers and more Delay.
00:19:01
Speaker
That'll do for now. Hey, speaking of Johnny Domino, this particular lineup. Yes. Was it the last episode I asked ah Mark Elston, the jobbing musician handyman of this particular lineup of Johnny Domino? I said, do us a jingle.
00:19:17
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He's done one. um It's a bit more than a jingle. It's a song. It's a song about his experiences of being in Johnny Domino. Let's have a listen.
Mark Elston's Nostalgic Contribution
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Johnny Domino Sideman It's a wonderful thing to be There's always plenty of biscuits And a special cup for my tea Johnny Domino Sideman Think on your feet and keep smart Cause being a little bit snarky Those lads have down to a fine heart
00:20:09
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Thank you.
00:20:33
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Johnny Domino Sidemount It's a wonderful thing to be There's always plenty of biscuits And a special Oh so special Cup for my tea Johnny Domino Sidemount
00:21:05
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Well, isn't that just lovely?
00:21:14
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isn't that just lovely It was very touching. He did have a special cup for his tea, but we know we won't go into that. but That was another crap joke that we made. but ah But yeah, I mean, I think he quite enjoyed doing that.
00:21:28
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I think he just needed an excuse to get off his butt and do some music. And I think he gave him an excuse to buy a four-track cassette recorder. Oh, my God. He sent me his kit list. Yeah. It was a Yamaha MT54 track, Korg MS10, which is a classic.
00:21:43
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ah He's got a Casio, I think he means a Casio PT20, which is a little keyboard that I used to have. And he's Telecaster, recorded on a bedroom floor in Nuttall. You know what I mean? I thought i really appreciated Mark sending that to us. so I love the way that he gave us a gear list.
00:21:58
Speaker
Yeah. He's such a music nerd, and so are you. but yeah but that's why he sent it to me and not you let's be honest um i'm more target i'm more target than you all right dude i love i love nerds nerds are cool yeah well we are nerds hi i'm jas and steven's mum and i don't listen to their podcasts i think they're very silly boys Yeah, well, Elston, he became involved with Johnny Domino because he was, like so many people, on the Derby music scene. He was on the music scene. On the 90s Derby scene.
00:22:40
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I just want to be seen. On the Derby scene. Where have you been? On the 90s Derby scene. I just want to be seen.
90s Derby Music Scene Memories
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What musical cuisine, Steve and Josh, are you going to serve today? Yay! So here we are on the Derby 90s music scene.
00:23:03
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And who are we going to meet today? Well, Steve, we're going to meet a really, he's a rather dapper fellow and his mates.
00:23:15
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And they sound a little bit like kind of an early, punky version of rem and this fella is he's 26 years old i've done that by working out the maths hey good man and he's little bit randy he's a little bit randy and he's having some good fun so this is this is a song by the band called iris and it's called what the hell happened
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I'm
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beautiful bump the thought of which fills my throat with a lump got to handle it sort it out get a grip oh what the hell i'm sorry for myself i'll never look to that just getting old
00:25:56
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The change is gonna come, we'll never be the same
00:26:58
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It's catchy.
00:27:02
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Far from the bit about the bum. I see. Your beautiful bum. okay sorry thanks Oh, Oops. You just crashed the vocal right there. Oh, dear.
00:27:12
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Okay. I'm really liking that song at the moment. I've been listening to that one a lot on my headphones while I've been walking the dog. I think it's got a really nice sound and i really enjoy it.
00:27:25
Speaker
I think it's awful. Yeah. That's not what you said. Yes, I know. not the words that you used. Yes, I think i used. All right. I think it's fucking awful.
00:27:35
Speaker
There you go. but My main memory virus, right? but Right. Go on then. I'm sure that they were very nice blokes.
00:27:45
Speaker
Okay. I don't know anything about them. I don't remember. I know they were on the Derby scene. Can you remember we used to rehearse in Cable's stinky practice room, the bakery, right? Yes. And where all of Cable's gear was set up, these massive amps, massive drum kit. And we used to squeeze in, set our gear and rehearse in there.
00:28:04
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Mm-hmm. But Cable also owns the rehearsal room upstairs, which was light and airy and very, very nice. And Iris rehearsed above us on a Sunday afternoon.
00:28:18
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And I remember hearing their fiddly-diddly bass lines coming through the floor. bit like R.E.M., like I said. A bit like R.E.M., yes. a bit of a Mike Mills thing going on. what do what How come they had the better room then?
00:28:31
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don't know. they Because they paid for it. They probably paid. I mean, you know, cable just, we'll have the stinky room, probably make a bit more money from hiring out the nicer room.
00:28:43
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And we were just the suckers who paid for it on a Sunday afternoon. Okay. You're not bitter. No, no, no, no, not at all. You know, that's where we forged our weird music. Do you remember anything about Iris then? and if Anything else about Iris? Not really, No.
00:28:58
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I don't think we met them. I don't remember meeting them. No, but I think the bass player is a guy called Wayne Walker. And in one of my many, many arts marketing jobs, one of the venues I worked at, we had a company in residence that was Wayne Walker and his his partner.
00:29:17
Speaker
And they we were like a circusy theatre group. And they did a Christmas show about three lighthouse keepers. And it was very good.
00:29:27
Speaker
Oh, I've been thinking about lighthouse keepers a lot. I'll tell you about that in a bit. But Iris, that was a song that was on a compilation from 1999 called Home Cooking. called home cooking I really liked that song.
00:29:42
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It was good. I know you're not like keen, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the vibe um the Derby scene. And if Iris are out there, and if any of them are listening. Well, they're probably not anymore. because i any friends Or any friends. Yeah, okay, maybe.
00:29:57
Speaker
Any friends of Iris are listening, get in touch. Get in touch with me, not Steve, perhaps. Anyway, you're going to have a little jingle then, and you're going to ask me, have you been up to, Giles, or something like that.
00:30:10
Speaker
The This Art Johnny Domino Podcast. It's got bongos. So have you been up to, Giles, or something like that? ah Well, I've been watching a lot of telly. What have you been watching?
00:30:23
Speaker
ah Mainly Celebrity SOS. s Not SOS. Not clebrities Celebrity. Celebrity SOS. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Celebrity SOS.
00:30:34
Speaker
It's not called that, is it? What's it called? Let me just do that bit again. Hold on. that's because I didn't write my notes properly let me get the name of the program it's not celebrity shark tank is it please don't keep this in the air D okay E S O S oh that's it right okay ask me what I've been doing again ah so what you've been doing again do it properly do it properly okay just that just so Giles what have you been doing
00:31:09
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What, the last few minutes? ah oh i'll Oh, recently.
Current TV Shows and Movies
00:31:14
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You've been trying to remember the name of this TV program. Don't, please don't include that in the edit.
00:31:21
Speaker
I have been watching quite a lot of telly, and I've been watching mainly Celebrity SAS Who Dares Wins, mainly because i quite like watching people crying because they're being shouted at by really big men.
00:31:36
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I've quite enjoyed that a lot. I've been rewatching Game of Thrones again. Really? Yeah, all the way through. All the way through. the the um The final season It doesn't really get better, but but i kind of appreciate aspects of it more the second time around.
00:31:57
Speaker
And i went out to see a film, and this is another one of our things where we kind review a film that people either don't go and see or they've already seen. And this is a film called Friendship, starring Tim Robinson of the TV program, I Think You Should Leave.
00:32:19
Speaker
I mean, this is scintillating podcast. You're hoping for the names of things. Tim Robinson. Is his name Tim Robinson? as You see, I'm not even sure it is.
00:32:30
Speaker
let I did write some notes. I've had a really tough day, actually. Normally when I'm writing notes for the podcast, I have like i do loads. But today I've been really busy. I'll explain why later.
00:32:43
Speaker
Right, okay. Tim Robertson is the name of the guy. and And the program is called I Think You Should Leave. There you go. So I did get it. yeah just sounded unsure. Anyway, I went see this film, and it's a really weird film.
00:32:58
Speaker
There you go. That's my review. Excellent. no No, it's a really strange film. It's about um male friendship. And it's a little bit like a fatal, it starts off being like a kind of version of fatal attraction, but to do with male friendship.
00:33:15
Speaker
And Tim Robertson's character gets obsessed with a character played by Paul Rudd, who is brilliant in it. He's an a mate he is such a good comic actor. Yeah. But it gets it gets much stranger than that. You sort of think you know where it's going as a film, but then it kind of goes in very odd directions.
00:33:35
Speaker
And i watched it in such a weird – I was in a quite a weird mood anyway because I went to see on a Saturday afternoon at the Broadway Cinema in Nottingham. And it was the afternoon of Nottingham Pride, right?
00:33:49
Speaker
So to make my way to the cinema, I had to – make my way through crowds of rainbow colored people as a rather grumpy middle-aged man on my own yeah and then went to see this film about male friendship uh that was quite disturbing actually yeah as well as being quite funny in places i would recommend you seeing it i think it is kind of interesting Yeah, well, when we I think we spoke before I went to see that film, Pavements, and there was a trailer for this film on beforehand.
00:34:24
Speaker
The trailer looked really interesting, but it said throughout, one of the funniest films I've ever seen. This is the funniest film of the year, and there was not one joke there.
00:34:36
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in the trailer was not funny no it wasn't funny at all no that's what I thought the trailer is not funny it looked really good yeah it was a film that actually made me laugh out loud in the cinema more than once yeah when I was feeling quite weird Yeah.
00:34:53
Speaker
So it must have been pretty funny. Yeah. Right. But it leaves you very confused at the end. you don't really I didn't really know what to think about it, to be honest, at the end of the film.
00:35:05
Speaker
I felt a little bit insecure, like my world had been shook. And I didn't know whether I was happy or sad. And then I had to leave the cinema and then walk through all the crowds of people having fun again.
00:35:18
Speaker
So I'd recommend Nottingham Pride um and I would recommend the friendship film. Yes. But maybe not at the same time. And how do you feel about friendship?
00:35:30
Speaker
Well, as a concept. As a concept. I mean, does the does the film, ah does it make a good case for having friends? and Well, no, it doesn't really work out. I mean, this guy really tries to make friends and he's a bit of a loser and a bit of an outsider. yeah And he's he's, as a lot of men do, you know, struggles to kind of connect with people.
00:35:52
Speaker
And it doesn't really, really work out for it not to be honest. So it doesn't really, it doesn't make the case. Maybe he would have been happier if he hadn't tried to make friends at the end of it.
00:36:06
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Cool. But it's interesting. Cool.
Humorous Poem on Disliking People
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I've got a poem. And it's nothing to do with friendship. Okay. But it is kind of about people and people that I'm not that keen on.
00:36:24
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Okay. And I've called it Bratmobile for no reason at all. I don't know why the poem is called Bratmobile, but it's what's written at the top of my piece paper. I actually quite like the band Bratmobile. but Yeah. I don't think it's to do with Bratmobile. I don't know. i just It's just a random name for the poem.
00:36:40
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Anyway, I'm going to read it with my reverby voice. The kind of people who throw baby cats in the sea and then video themselves saving them in order to get likes.
00:36:55
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The kind of people who believe that the statement Superman was an immigrant is a woke thing to say. And who ask, what happens if you break the housepipe ban and already have a full list of fines and punishments?
00:37:15
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The kind of people who ask what's in your bag. The kind of people who kiss tattoos. The kind of people who think they're weird.
00:37:26
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The kind of people who think they're normal. The kind of people who ask how are you and then proceed to talk about what they did and what they're doing and where they're going.
00:37:41
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and how great slash annoying their kids slash partner is slash are. And how they slept and what they ate and what they said and how they are and think they're having a conversation.
00:37:59
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I no longer feel the need to accommodate these people. Excellent. Another great poem. You don't have to keep your review. you can cut your review out and just go to a jingle if you like.
00:38:10
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will do. All you of Earth are idiots. You just hold on, Buster. Yeah, so last episode, we played a song that we recorded for the PRF tribute series. Yes.
00:38:24
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July. July 2025. Which was a tribute to Jonathan Richman. Yeah. and we were we were we played a song called be More Jonathan that we wrote.
00:38:37
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Yeah. And Steve's been a bit upset. Haven't you, Steve? You've had a tricky month, haven't you? What with Turtle Reg and then this. this Yeah, this I'm out.
00:38:47
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I am, as the kids would say, I'm going to crash out. i'm I'm crashing out. I'm out. um No, I mean, look. I really enjoyed recording that song.
00:38:59
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I enjoyed it so much that I did another version of it that sounded a bit more like Jonathan Richman. You did. Exactly. And ah thought, you know, we had a good chance of of winning and we didn't win.
00:39:11
Speaker
Yeah. It's the taking part that counts, Steve. It is the taking part that counts. But I've since been told there is a theory that it's like Eurovision. There's like an Eastern Bloc. And by virtue of the fact that he's won it twice, i think Frankie Machine is Johnny Logan.
00:39:30
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Okay, I think you yeah you're grasping at straws here. Anyway, it's a democratic process. We didn't win. We didn't win, but we were a little bit miffed about that because we thought we should have won.
00:39:41
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So this month, the tribute series is songs about by um Nick Cave. ah we Are we not we're not we're not going to do it, are we, Steve?
00:39:53
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ah we are Are we having a bit of a grump and not doing it? No. Or is it because we don't like Nick Cave that much? I don't like Nick Cave at all, but you've got an idea and I've started doing some music. Oh, have you?
00:40:04
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I've got bit echoey there. Have you, really? A little bit excited there. That's nice. This this is this isn and't this is news. Yeah, yeah. You've started doing some music? Yeah, yeah. That's exciting. Based on the on the concept that you sent to me.
00:40:18
Speaker
Oh. Yeah, so um I've started working on it. Wow, cool. So we might do that next week. Well, we've got to do it next week because the week after that I'm on holiday. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, but we could do it next week. Yeah.
00:40:29
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I'm sure we can fit it in. That's fun. Yeah. Okay, so we might play that next episode. Yeah, and we'll probably be upset because we didn't win again. but but eventually I'll just get into the idea it. You were so sure we were going to win. You had a big discussion in your head and with me about like what artists we were going to pick for next month. You were so sure, Yeah, you've got to be prepared. But it it did, my my response to it reminded me of, I remember the first time they did the national lottery, right? And I was at university and me and my friends, we all bought tickets and we watched we watched the draw.
00:41:03
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And ah girl called Suzanne, She was convinced she was going to win. Yeah. And she was so upset when she didn't. Spoiler alert, she didn't win.
00:41:15
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But she was so upset. And my response to not winning the PRF Month Tribute Series reminded me of Suzanne. Because i I do understand how ridiculous it is.
00:41:26
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but You know, in that that particular situation on the very first national lottery, I was actually working in WH Smith's selling lottery tickets. Right. And I was scared that I was going to win.
00:41:38
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I was like, oh, it's going to change my life too much if I win. Yeah. Yeah. that's That's the kind of book I would really suck, wouldn't Yeah. Yeah. But I'm well aware of how ridiculous it was for me to be well so naffed off that we didn't win.
00:41:56
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Never mind. Anyway. Onwards and upwards. Onwards and upwards, Steve. But we got a new song out of it. We did. We did. it Exactly. And that's the point. It's like, you know, it's sparking our creativity, isn't it, man? It's kind of making us do stuff. So that's good. It's all good.
00:42:11
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and know I've only just done a poem, but can I do another poem? Go on then. Well, okay. It does make sense in the context of the podcast, because you know how my voice sounds a bit weird today, because I'm in an echoey room.
00:42:23
Speaker
It's because I'm in a room that we're redecorating. Because we're kind of moving the rooms around in our house. And this room that I'm in now was the room that my children had as a bedroom, but they're no longer really children anymore.
00:42:38
Speaker
So I've had to basically take all of the stuff out of the room and and we've painted the walls and things. So it's been a bit mental on the hottest day of the year. yeah But I wrote a poem about my feelings.
00:42:52
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It's a little bit emotional, but I'm sure the listeners can cope. Okay. It's called Relics.
Reflective Poem on Family and Nostalgia
00:43:00
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I didn't expect to confront my own mortality while redecorating their bedroom, picking through discarded school ties and books I gave that were probably read.
00:43:13
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Broken Lego untouched since last decade. i am a mudlark hunting after the tide has gone. All very well.
00:43:24
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But under the bed, among the wrappers and cans, I find a Pokemon card next to an empty Jurex packet by a Rizzler on a sock.
00:43:37
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And I am flung into the extreme perspective vertigo of life passing. They are older now, and so am I. All I can do is paint the walls and box up the relics.
00:43:52
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Perhaps one day they will want to share them with their children.
00:43:58
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Maybe not the Durex wrapper. maybe Maybe don't keep hold of that. No, I'll put it all in the box. It's all by relic. Oh, I dropped my book. and Yeah, it's all. No, i haven't put the Durex wrapper in the box now.
00:44:12
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snow that was That was very poignant. Or the empty Rizla packet. Yes, that made me laugh. Those boys. They're big fellas now, but it was weird.
00:44:23
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and there was It was a real mix of weird stuff that I found in this room. Yeah, and it just made me feel like, whoa, man, time. Time is passing. And time is passing on this podcast.
00:44:35
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It is. I think it's time to listen to a song. Yes. Yes.
Spotlight on Nottingham Band ACHB
00:44:40
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This is a song which I want to play, which is by a band called ACHB.
00:44:46
Speaker
And they're a Nottingham band. And I met Alex from the band the other week at a gig. And he was doing an acoustic set. And he was doing some really good songs. And he did a song about Longheaton, which is a town...
00:45:00
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that, um, I work in and, it was a very, uh, poignant song about Long Eaton, about kind of not liking it there that much. And anyway, his songwriting really got to me.
00:45:12
Speaker
And I think he's a pretty cool guy. He's a young filler. And, uh, this is his band, ACHB, and they're on band camp. And this is a song and Jesus, i've loved I've dropped my book. I can't remember the name of the song. Last man standing.
00:45:26
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Thank you. And, uh, it, well, I picked it because, and they've got loads of stuff on Bandcamp, I picked it because I really like a song where they give the drummer a workout and they really do on this song.
00:46:03
Speaker
Strung out die by the cruelest committee, with emotions and murders to mention. My clementors resent me, they say I'm a rogue program, they're my inventors, they made me, I know them. Kept me around for a Sunday night showdown, I've got some other inventors.
00:46:17
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I'll be the last man, standing the last left alive, once a fight in their game, all depleted and drained.
00:46:31
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survivor the last of my kind left to carry your name left to die in the rain under the day i was programmed they gave me a purpose a closer inspection found it was worthless so i slid away from crack in the surface tried for my right for a future it's been a misver surviving this city all the stuff i put up with well it's not always pretty you want so bravo well it's always
00:47:04
Speaker
And if you didn't want me
00:47:34
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You should have told me You should have let me know And if You didn't want me You should have told me You should have let me know And if You didn't want me You should have told me You should have let me know And if
00:48:05
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And if you didn't want me, you should have told me, you should have let me know. And if you didn't want me, you should have told me, you should have let me know.
00:48:29
Speaker
You should have told me let me I'm the last man standing The last left life with fight in decade You have told me should let know I'm the man standing The last left with fight in You should have told me have let me know I'm the last man standing last left of life with a fight in You should have told me You should have let me know I'm the last man standing The last left of life with a fight in decade should have told me You should let me know I'm the last man The last of the last of my have
00:49:02
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I'm the last man standing the last left
00:49:37
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And that was ACHB, Last Man Standing. Alex and Christopher Hale band, apparently. Yeah, I enjoyed that. They're cool. There's some really good stuff to listen to. So I would encourage people to dig into their band camp.
Spotify Controversy and Artist Impact
00:49:54
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Interestingly, they've taken their stuff off Spotify. Okay. Lots of people are doing, Steve. Yeah. What are your thoughts about that?
00:50:06
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it's complicated isn't it you know of people that I admire uh dear hoof I love the hoof and they've taken their stuff off there loads of people are doing yeah I don't know man I mean you know obviously the reasons why people are taking stuff off Spotify don't do we need to go over that you know it's obviously you know it is a terrible thing for musicians in terms of getting paid yeah and And the money that Spotify is earning is going to causes which are not good. Horrific. Yeah. AI weaponry and stuff.
00:50:40
Speaker
So, yeah, i don't know, man. I think we need to have a talk about it. Okay. At some point. Let's have a mass debate.
00:50:50
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Mrs Merton would say. Very good. Thank you. But yeah, i I really like that song. And Alex was a nice chap when I spoke to him. So um I'm going to try and keep in touch with him and get some more of his stuff when he records some more. I think he's going I think, I don't know, this might be just my conjecture, but I think he was going to record some stuff, which is just him.
00:51:13
Speaker
I really like his lyrics and his voice. So I hope he does. Excellent. Thank you for listening to this episode of the This is Our Johnny Domino podcast. If you are enjoying the podcast- Hold on there. Wait a sec. Wait a sec.
00:51:28
Speaker
I found something. Oh, yeah. i'm quite I'm quite excited about it. Oh, good. I just found on the i found on Spotify. On the internet. I just found ah on the internet, on the World Wide Web, on Spotify, right on on my computer machine, I found a band.
00:51:47
Speaker
Okay. And, this you know, we're a band called Johnny Domino, right? Yes. This band called Jimmy Backgammon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Backgammon. What are the chances of that, Giles? You finding this band called Jimmy Backgammon on Spotify. And um I've got a feeling it might be AI generators.
00:52:11
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Will ever listen to it and tell me what you think?
00:52:19
Speaker
In the corner of the room, the four track waits Memories of late nights, our youthful fates With every strum, we blend our hearts and dreams Brotherly laughter fills the air, or so it seems Four tracks are all I need A melody divine sound that speaks the truth rhythm that's mine In this little bedroom where our dreams take flight, you'll call our names and sound until the morning light.
AI-Generated Band Discovery
00:52:55
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Cassettes bringing tales in the dark of night. Every chord we strike screams to take flight. From the rattle of the drums to the whispers of a song that though flight may turn, we know we can't go wrong.
00:53:09
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The world outside is chaos. Sing along! Lexa, roll out! Come Steve! Have we got joke That's fine.
00:53:35
Speaker
Do you not like it? It is weirdly mid-Atlantic, isn't it? Very strange.
00:53:50
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This bit sounds a bit like um Avril Lavigne. Yeah. Two brothers sharing dreams, defining our way. brothers sharing dreams, defining our own way, Steve.
00:54:02
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Here we go. Our four track set up can't be beat, Steve. It's true. It's true.
00:54:15
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like me a melody divine you reckon eventually all music will sound like this i'm bit worried yeah
00:54:39
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Christ you can turn it off at any time if you like is it going to finish soon it's getting there the music's going to throw through your veins man I think this is it oh
00:55:05
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god almighty oh this is the end
00:55:14
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It's an AI version of Johnny Domino, isn't it? Let's face it, it is Maybe that's what we should do when we run out of songs. Please do like and subscribe to our podcast and recommend it to someone who you think might like listening to all this kind of weird shit.
00:55:31
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Send us some of your old music and enter the eternal halls of the four-track gods.