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Satan Lied To Me
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Gather closely round the fire, young’uns… the old Woodward brothers are about to start weaving their weird tales about the before times. Can those lemon drops they mention really be mighty?
As you strain to imagine the musical land of "nineties-derby", by equal parts bewitched and confused by their rambling words, you will wonder, open-mouthed, what is this "texanbar" they tell of?’
Music this episode is from Selina Kyle, Mad Brando, and Johnny Domino!
The more studious souls amongst you may wish to avail yourselves of the notes and links we have thoughtfully compiled to accompany this episode on the blog.
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Podcast artwork by Giles Woodward
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Transcript
Nostalgic Impact of Echo and the Bunnymen
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Stab a sorry heart with your favourite finger, paint the whole world blue and stop your tears from stinging. Hear the cavemen singing, good news they're bringing.
00:00:14
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Seven seas swimming them so well, glad to see my face among them, kissing the tortoise shell.
Introduction and Musical Journeys
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Music
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It's time for this ah Johnny Domino. Hi, Steve. Hi there, Giles. How you doing? I'm all right. Welcome, one and all, to yet another episode of the This Our Johnny Domino podcast, wherein myself, Stephen, and my brother Giles talk about songs from our musical past, present, and future, and just talk about some stuff that arises when we're talking about the stuff...
00:01:18
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Yeah, so it's like basically a podcast of some olden guys talking about the before times.
Reminiscing Youthful Music Influences
00:01:25
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Ah, the olden days. days before times, the before the internet. Before the darkness fell. Yeah, and that's us.
00:01:34
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But we play some songs that we did when we were children. Yes. And we play songs that other people did when they were children. You know, you might like it. It's the Johnny Domino Podcast.
00:01:48
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Give it a chance. Nice lyrics. Echo and the Bunnymen. Seven seas. Yeah, that was it. It's good one. That was it. You know, I've been listening to my favourite Echo and the Bunnymen album and rediscovering it.
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Is it songs to learn and sing? Yes, it is. You know me so well. It's a great album. It's a best of, but it's a really good selection. It's a compilation, isn't it? Mm-hmm.
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I'm one of those not very cool people that is compilations are often my favorite albums by a band. Yeah. But yeah, Songs to Learn to Sing, 1985. I've been listening to it again and hearing it as if for the first time again as a 16-year-old who's led quite a sheltered life.
00:02:35
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Songs like The Cutter, The Back of Love, The Killing Moon and Seven Seas.
Influential Bands Discussion
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Driving bass, sweeping romantic songs, charismatic vocals and poetic lyrics.
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Very good. It's been transporting me, man. That's nice when you can reconnect with something from your youth and it's still good. It really is. But as with all periods of music, looking back, we can see trends, can't we? And the movement of the tides.
00:03:02
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And, you know, like with every Echo and the Bunnymen or The Cure or U2, there are other bands trying to play that sound but not really getting it.
00:03:12
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And it led me to think of some people who were clearly fans of Echo and the Bunnymen, who appeared to sort of like base their entire career on trying to play the back of love, but not really managing it.
00:03:25
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And that was the band called the Mighty Lemon Drops. Do you remember them? I remember them. I think they were like slightly before I got into alternative music.
00:03:36
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Yeah. There's bands like the Woodentops as well. They were kind of just a little bit before. That's it. I started looking in that direction. I'm playing the older brother card here, aren't I? Go for it. No, go for it Yeah. i heard me Tell me, Elder. Well, I heard of these Mighty Lemon Drops. They were a band from Wolverhampton.
00:03:58
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And I first heard them on John Peel. Songs like Happy Head and The Other Side of You. with its rhythmic, repetitive bass line, really appealed to me. yeah And kind of a big influence on what I tried to do, really, as a bass player, really. that that Well, you know, as like when I picked up the bass, I just wanted to just play that sort of like four-note bass line over and over again, kind of thing. booy bee deep booy be Yeah, that kind of thing, right?
00:04:30
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I've been listening to them as well. Okay. Quite enjoying them. Quite enjoying them. Not as much as Echo and the Bunnymen, I'm guessing. Not as much as Echo and the Bunnymen. Okay. But I've been looking into it. And you know, the Mighty Lemon Drops, they didn't didn't last that long.
00:04:41
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But the original drummer of the Mighty Lemon Drops went on to play in another band. Do you know which band that was? I can guess because of what we've spoken about. For the course of the podcast, you don't know. yeah His name was Martin Gilks and he went on to join the Wonder Stuff.
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Yeah. He was apparently, well, allegedly sacked from the Mighty Lemon Drops for not wanting to cut his hair because they're quite a short haired band. And then he went on to join the eight legged groove machine that was the Wonder Stuff.
00:05:19
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The older brother thing again, with a Wonder Stuff, a band that ever had an impact on you. No, I really didn't like them. And when I was at college, there were a lot of people who really liked the Wonder stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just was not in that headspace whatsoever.
00:05:33
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don't like Miles Hunt. Well, you see, that's it. You see, it's just like you can really kind of like place someone very precisely as someone who was born like maybe in 1970, 1971, as somebody who maybe got there at the very beginning of the Wonder Stuff. Right. And so I remember the Wonder Stuff when they were the cool new band on the block. Right.
00:05:54
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Yeah. You know, Unbearable, their first single. Yeah. remember it? No, not off the top of my head. I didn't like you very much when I met you. I didn't like you very much when I met you. you remember that one?
00:06:06
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I do now. Yeah, yeah. you do anything else or is that it? That was basically it, right? that's That's the kind of singing and the kind of lyrics that Miles Hunt used to give us. Also, give, give, give me more, more, more. remember that one? Vaguely, yes. And it's your money I'm after, baby. Oh, God. Yeah, all of these, right? And the big impression I had of the Wonder Stuff was that lots of girls that I liked enjoyed them. So I used to have to kind of go along with it, really.
00:06:35
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I really quite liked the drummer because he used to swish his hair when he was drumming. He was a very swishy swishy guy i'm doing the head movement now you can't see it doesn't really work on an audio podcast he swished right he swished and i remember going to see them at rock city at this time and it was a sellout and it was packed with all the cool weird kids you know someone climbed on my shoulders and then i remember snakebite and black and b and h and i remember the drummer's hair swish
00:07:07
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Yeah. And my face was among them. And I was kissing the tortoise shell. Oh, Jesus. There you go. you would You would do anything for those ladies, though, wouldn't you?
00:07:21
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I bet you went see James a couple of times because yeah all the nice girls wore the... Yeah. and Well, there is a thing there, isn't there, right? You know, it's a genuine thing.
00:07:31
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There are certain bands that girls like, right? So that attracts... the boys to go and see those bands as well. I don't think that's me being kind of controversial, is it?
00:07:43
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I don't think it's necessarily the Wonder Stuff were a girl's band. No, they weren't. But they weren't your type of band. They weren't. So you were going to those gigs with a very particular game in mind, shall we say. Well, I like some, you know, I do kind I did at the time, you know, those first few singles. I could like, you know, I could get into it. I could get into it.
00:08:05
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You know, it wasn't that bad, but they kind of went in directions that I didn't like eventually. But I do remember they were the cool band at the time. They were very, very cool. You know, they filled Rock City and um and, you know, every band has its moment.
00:08:23
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And I was there for that moment for the wood and stuff. Yeah. And it was cool. Every band has its moment. Apart from Johnny Domino. Well, no, this is our moment. Oh, yes, it is. is our moment. What's that song? That was Martin McCutcheon, This Is Our Moment. We spin on Top of the Pops, 19...
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Oh,
Selina Kyle's Energetic Performances
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we're on year 2000 now. Oh, yeah. Year 2000. Oh, we're getting right up to date now. no it's Well, it's going to get interesting because I think this is the period when, at some point this year, the Strokes turned up and they did a set, a live set. And, you know, that was the period when I saw the Strokes.
00:09:04
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And although I didn't get it at the time, I now think they were a ah really good band. I think when I saw them, Is This It, the album hadn't come out and they just played it soup to nuts and that was it because they didn't have any more songs.
00:09:20
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They were supported by the Mouldy Peaches as well. Yeah, well, they were pretty freaking great. But sorry, are you you watching an episode of the Top of the Pops now? is that, I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the link there, but have you got it on in the background? No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is Marty McCutcheon,
00:09:35
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This Is My Moment was either a late 1999 single or early 2000 single. And later on in the year 2000, on top of the pops, the strokes are going to turn up.
00:09:49
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Oh, right. I'm not watching it live. I'm just... I'm just... You've just got an impressive knowledge. Well, or at least I'm very confident about the things I think I remember.
00:10:00
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Right. Anyway, whose moment is it now? On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. On the 90s Derby scene, where have you been?
00:10:14
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On the 90s Derby scene, I just want to be seen. What musical cuisine, Stephen Jarvis, are going to serve today? And as the dulcet tones of Wilbraham fade into the background, we have another piece of cuisine.
00:10:34
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i believe it's a tangy starter. A tangy starter to this episode, and that is the band Selina Kyle. Did you ever see them, actually? They were a lot of fun. No, I've never seen We might have done a gig with them.
00:10:48
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That doesn't mean I saw them. No, no, no. Well, I did. And um one of the members of the band, Selina Kyle, is Holly, who is now my sister-in-law.
00:11:01
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So that's the incestuous nature of the Derby music scene, I suppose. But so I let her know earlier today that we were going to be talking about Selina Kyle and she sent me some information about the band, which I think is great. and I've got a voice note to play in a little bit because Holly is the queen of the voice note.
00:11:19
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But Holly met Anne-Marie, Anne-Marie who we've heard on the podcast before because she played in Cato and she also played in the earliest recordings of Stars on the Water. Oh, and she was drumming and playing the flute at the same time. Drumming and playing the flute at the same time. yeah So Holly met Anne-Marie at the Future Club on Babington Lane back when it was the rock house. Anne-Marie, as I said, she was already on the Dalby music scene. She saw Holly as a bit of an entertainer and thought she'd be good in a band.
00:11:47
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And according to Holly, Anne-Marie said, why don't you just play the drums? Holly had never touched the drum in her life, but Anne-Marie just said, you can learn it. They did their first gig at the Friary. They probably played about three songs.
00:11:59
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And at this point it was Anne-Marie on guitar and vocals, Holly on drums and Matthew Bamford. who was in Laser Guided, who we talked about before, he was on guitar as well. So it' was two guitarists, and no bass, and Holly on drums. Eventually they moved across and Holly stopped playing the drums and started singing. But when i see I saw them play a couple of times, they were very, very keen on the dress-up box and they just looked like they were having so much fun.
00:12:31
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and And this was at time when when Derby bands didn't look like they were having a huge amount of fun. They were just really entertaining. And the songs are good. OK. Well, less' less we'll be the judge of that.
00:12:45
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so what's the song called, Steve? This song is called Compartment Department Ulla Sleeve. It's very short. MUSIC
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PLAYS
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The sanitation, we got a close cut. We started counting. We started looking at it. I've got a fever, so I'm on that side. We started counting.
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We started looking at it.
00:13:38
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I think. Shall I play a little voice note from Holly, which she sent? She is the queen of the voice notes, but she is always doing something else while she's doing the voice notes.
00:13:49
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Yeah. This is a little bit rough. Memories. We used to practice at, I think the building's still there, opposite the Seven Stars. an old, I don't even know what it is, but it was really great. Me and Anne-Marie were just inspired by Cats, Chanel, and Sex and the City, i think was a big inspiration.
00:14:12
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don't know where that features in the songs. But Anne-Marie, she wrote all the lyrics. We just always just had a laugh, told stories, shared experiences, and honestly, it was just Anne-Marie wrote these mad lyrics.
00:14:24
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It wasn't about being deep. It was about just having fun. At that time in your life where you don't realise how you're living at your best years with no like commitments and just having a great time. Hugely inspired by Peaches at the time.
00:14:36
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breeders. Always Pixies. And we just loved all the short, punky kind of... That was our energy at the time. had a lot of energy then, too. If I'd look love to have that back, it'd be nice.
00:14:48
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But yeah, that's me on the drums with Matt and Anne-Marie. And we recorded that the Hive. with Twinkie who did a joint record with them.
00:15:00
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Anyway, that's a million years ago. back to my current life of being an adult. But yeah, for now, that's me. hi now Steve, yeah tell us some more about seeing Selina Kyle live.
00:15:15
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The main time i remember seeing them, they played upstairs at Susumi, which is where there were a series of gigs called Hunting for Teeth. We played at a couple of them. And they played at one of those. And those gigs were quite po-faced, not a huge amount of fun.
00:15:28
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And they were dressed in a very nautical theme. They all had like little sailor hats on. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, and that that was at a point where they got a drummer in called Alex, Alex Kahn.
00:15:38
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so You mean so Holly didn't drum? Not at that point, no, but she was drumming on that recording. So what did she do then? She just sang. She switched to singing. She switched to singing all the time, but Holly is singing on that recording as well.
00:15:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's cool. It's got some energy. Yeah. They were a lot of fun. Yeah, nice. um What do we know about Selina Kyle, the character from Batman? The character from Seen. Are there any kind of parallels here?
00:16:06
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Selina Kyle, the character from Batman. Yes, Catwoman. Morally ambiguous. Yes. Morally ambiguous. that sound like your sister-in-law? No. No, no, no. No? Good. Okay. is she Is she the enemy, but also the love interest?
00:16:24
Speaker
Selina Kyle is. Possibly for some people. Yeah. yeah She also knows the secret identity of Batman. Now, does she? is that Are you talking canon here? Does she actually know who's who? I mean, which well which canon are you talking about? i don't know the canon on Wikipedia that I'm looking at. the moment Oh, right. Okay.
00:16:45
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Okay. Well, is that strictly canon? That canon. I don't really care. I'm really not that into
Johnny Domino and Cultural References
00:16:51
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Batman. But, you know, I'm just trying to sort of like... Takes some interesting nuggets. Well, the christ the in the Christopher Nolan films, at the end of it, Batman goes off with Selina Kyle.
00:17:01
Speaker
So she knows who he is. Yeah. So she learns it within those Dark Knight films. Yeah. She understands what a troubled individual he is. Yeah, but she doesn't, on the 1960s Batman, which is still playing out on Talking Pictures TV as we speak, she doesn't know that he is Bruce Wayne.
00:17:22
Speaker
You know what I mean? You're a big fan of Talking Pictures TV, aren't you? Yeah, especially because I discovered recently on a Saturday morning show Runaround with Mike Reid. You we should get sponsored. We should get like adverts for Talking Pictures TV. on the I think there would be a lot of crossover with our audience. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, the great thing about Talking Pages TV is run by a man and I think it's his granddaughter from the shed. Yeah. right i think So they just get like DVDs of things that aren't under copyright and stick them on the telly. Yeah.
00:17:57
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And they organize weird weekends for people. The word weird is is definitely a strange word for people to just sit in Debbie McGee. Debbie McGee appears at them.
00:18:10
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Yeah. At various other... but Like the Grumbleweeds and... you I mean, I'm assuming it's Mike Reeds on it as well. Yeah. But Mike Reed of Saturday Superstore and... No, not that Mike Reed. I was talking about Mike Reed from Radio 1. The other Mike Reed. The other Mike Reed, the one who banned Relax. Oh, we did a Mike Reed confusion.
00:18:36
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I bet that's not happened for a while. I bet it hasn't, no.
00:18:48
Speaker
We're making a podcast in the face of certain doom We are this our Johnny Domino We're making a podcast and we're playing off skill tunes This is this our Johnny Domino We're brothers, we wear glasses We've got medical conditions We've both been alive for a while
00:19:17
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We're making a podcast in the face of certain dew. It's time for this on Johnny Domino. Oh, something like that. Anyway. Anyway, Johnny Domino. Yes. Johnny Domino. That's the name of the podcast. It is Domino. It's name of our band. And it's also the name...
00:19:36
Speaker
Of another superhero. Another superhero. There is a link, yes. Nightman, John, inverted commas, Johnny Domino, is a superhero ah who exists in the, I'm clearly reading this, who exists in the Ultraverse line of comics and possesses the super ability to hear the evil thoughts of those people around him.
00:19:56
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His real name is Johnny Domino and he is a talented San Francisco saxophonist. Saxophonist. sex up yes A talented saxophonist by day.
00:20:07
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Yes. super late ah night By night. that's What kind of work does he get as a saxophonist by day? That's a very good Strange. I don't understand that. Anyway, yeah, let's have listen to the thing about it. again Let's listen to the intro.
00:20:23
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Johnny Domino was one of San Francisco's hottest young jazz musicians. But fate and a cosmic event were about to change his life forever.
00:20:36
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What the doctors told him seemed impossible. John, your brain has managed to acquire the capacity to pick up certain frequencies like a radio. But Doc, I'm all hearing bad stuff.
00:20:49
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Yes, exactly. You're tuned to the frequency of evil. Who said you?
00:21:02
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Now, I'm on your side. A whole new line of super tools developed for super policemen. A belt, which enables him to overcome gravity. Fabrics, which are virtually bulletproof.
00:21:13
Speaker
A stealth mode, which makes him seem to disappear. A holographic display, which makes him appear to be where he
00:21:23
Speaker
Yeah, Nightman is the name of the superhero character. Yeah. The character of Nightman appeared as a civilian in June of 1993 he became a superhero in Nightman number one in October 1993.
00:21:38
Speaker
Now, the first recordings we did as Johnny Domino were in August of 1993. Yeah, what you're saying. Yeah.
00:21:49
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I don't know if I actually was ah aware of this this comic strip character. Maybe it was just in the ether. Maybe it was. And we just picked up on it through our cosmic waves. Yeah. Because don't remember ever hearing about it.
00:22:03
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But we just decided to call out Ban Johnny Domino. But, like you know, i think I'm just picking up on evil thoughts. Have you ever seen the episode of ah It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia about Nightman?
00:22:15
Speaker
No. Oh, my God. It's like a musical. They put on a musical. About Johnny Domino? No, about a character called Nightman and Dayman. Oh, right. Okay. So it's really funny. it Nothing thing to do with Nightman. No.
00:22:30
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What is going on up here? and never know, man.
00:22:38
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Daylight. Yeah, i like that. Dayman. Dayman? Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the... Sun. Sun.
00:22:52
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You're a master of karate and friendship for everyone. Dayman, that's it! Dayman, oh! Fighter of the nightman, oh!
00:23:04
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Champion of the sun, oh! You're a master of karate and friendship for everyone. Dayman! Dayman, oh!
00:23:16
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Nice, we'll get the... fight Wow, there's loads of Nightmen, Johnny Domino crossover. There's lots of things to get rid of. Anyway, this is getting very rambly.
00:23:27
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Let's have an advert. Freeze, Texan! You're outnumbered seven to one! Hold your horses, boys. You wouldn't finish me till I finish my Texan bar, would you?
00:23:41
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Bite through the milk chocolate and chew real slow.
00:23:53
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Guess they must have got cold feet. Texan, sure is a mighty chew. Probably to explain the cracking sound in the middle of it is it takes him so long to chew his Texan bar that like winter comes or like another ice age happens and they all get frozen and he's still there chewing his Texan bar. Can remember Texan bars?
00:24:19
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Yeah, they they were they they took a while to get through. Man, they took teeth there. Now, I... I told you before we started recording there were three adverts. Okay, can we have another one in a bit?
00:24:31
Speaker
Well, the other two are a little bit racist. Can we have them later? We could do. What's going on? None of your business, rack off! it's time to talk about the PRF monthly tribute series. Yes. A regular feature in the podcast at the moment for now, where musicians and artists create a song every month related to a chosen musical artist and create a band cam album.
00:24:59
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And every month the winner gets to choose the next month. You know, it's a bit like a competition. And... ah ah You know what? It's been OMD month.
00:25:10
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Yeah. And you know what? It's been making me look look back fondly at birds month, I have to say. and i mean, we had we had no opinion about the birds. And skinny puppy month as well, if you're going all the way back.
00:25:25
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But yeah, I'm not completely loving the OMD month, but more of that in a minute. Yeah. Can I just read you a poem? OMD. Mr. Early Queen fan, lend me your Costco card, for I would like to purchase Seven Seas of Rye. Oh, Mr. Dub Reggae fan, it's time for your tea.
00:25:45
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But I was hungry, there's none left for King Tubby now. Fast forward, you can skip past the tragical and hip. Flip the scroll, we'll have been chipped. To spend time with goofy friends turned on and pondering.
00:25:58
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Oh Mr Broken Screen Man, TikTok is strong for you. But maybe what you seek will lie beyond it. Oh Mr Abstract Beats Man, play your tambourine. On Instagram and YouTube, we'll come following you.
00:26:13
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Anyway, that was nice i looked okay that was the birds' influence, probably. So yeah, OMD month.
OMD Tribute and Musical Creation
00:26:20
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Yeah. So we we recorded something.
00:26:24
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Yes. But it was kind of more influenced in my head by the birds' month, really. Yeah, it did certainly hanker back to it, didn't it? In a way that I wasn't really expecting. Mm-hmm.
00:26:36
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The way I've described it, it's almost like somebody doing Leuven Brothers song, but in order to record it, someone has explained what OMD sounds like.
00:26:52
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But they've translated it through Google Translate at least once, possibly a couple of times. So it sounds a little bit ish like OMD.
00:27:04
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It does that swinging, dancing on the snare beat thing. It's got a drum machine in it. Yeah. And it's also Leuven Brothers song. this it's ah It's a Leuven Brothers song.
00:27:15
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Yeah. I mean, you know, today is the day after ah the month of OMD of June 2026 has finished. I don't think we're going to win.
00:27:28
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I think people are going to love it, man. Well, we had fun, didn't we? Yeah.
00:28:02
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Satan kept my soul astray, said I didn't need to pray, and he pat me on the back when I would agree.
00:28:13
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Told me I would lose my friends, that my fun in life would end, now I'll tell you how.
00:28:50
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I remember a little country church house where I planned to meet a friend one night to go on a party. I got there early and when it started to rain I decided to wait inside.
00:29:03
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The service had started and when they sing, pray or preach, Satan kept saying how this is no place for you and the things they are saying are not true.
00:29:16
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Just when was about to leave, the invitation was given, as the preacher raised his hand and asked us all to stand and sing. And then, don't know where I fell, and I don't know how long I prayed.
00:29:29
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But when God raised me from the little beach, I knew that Satan had lied to me.
00:30:08
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So what gave you the idea that we should do that song in that style? I have no idea, but listening to it does make me feel quite sweaty. it takes I'm having a sense memory. It's taken me back to recording it in your living room. I'm getting that kind of sense of being in a really hot a hot day.
00:30:28
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It was ridiculous, wasn't it? Yeah. trying to record that. I have no idea. I think I was just, I wanted to do a song with a talkie bit because of the great song that Ian did on the Birds Month.
00:30:42
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Yeah. The one about the chestnut mare. Chestnut mare. And I just, I really like songs with talkie bits and I really like the Leuven Brothers and I just wanted to see if we could do it. And, ah you know, we don it we we did it, but I don't know whether it was a good idea, but we did it.
00:30:59
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Yeah, it's tenuous in terms of being any kind of linked to OMD, but there you go Were there any other good songs on the MOD? On the MOD? Yeah, I'm getting my acronyms mixed up. yeah On the OMD month of the monthly tribute, Steve, was there any stood out for you, man?
00:31:21
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ah Well, Frankie did a good one. Frankie did do a good one. Yeah. It's called For Noy and it was the favourite OMD song by one of Frankie's old friends who has sadly passed away, apparently 30 years ago.
00:31:41
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and And it's a really, really beautiful version of a song which is completely new to me.
00:31:56
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Eternally You and me Eternally We shall be All alone
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Together, together, have a bar.
00:32:49
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Wilbraham did a good song as well, didn't he? Yes. He did a little bit of an interesting little mix-up in there. little bit of a tweak. Yeah, that quite enjoyed. I've got
00:33:03
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to tell you that I've been there more But you never said that you're a lesson I I've kept them anyway
00:33:43
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Is there any Knight Rider on Talking Pictures TV? No. No, it's too good. The This Art Johnny Domino Podcast. It's got bongos.
00:33:56
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What's happening with the PRF Monthly Tribute series ending? Because i know it's it I know it's ending, so what's what's the deal with it, man? It's going to end in December, I think, is the last month.
00:34:08
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And, you know, ah Zach Hench. Hello out there in listener land. This is Hench. Zach Hench. friend of the show has been with it for God knows how many albums they've done. it's been going month by month for a long time.
00:34:27
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And i can understand he wants to knock it on the edge. Yeah. But the end of it is definitely December. We will miss it when it's gone. Yeah, what are we going to do? How are we going to fill up this podcast? I don't know. Well, we're going to to do some engagement opportunities. We're going to need to get thinking caps on okay and suggest something. Because people need their creativity. Yeah, or I could just read loads of poems. Here we go. Here's another one. OMG, it's OMD.
00:34:58
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it's o m d That's what it's called. v i p with ppe o mg it's o m d bpd in the usa ptsd from the usfc l m a o with the ceo o m g it's o m g pda a gives me g a d and the nct is m i a rtc when s h t f bpm to the m p three
00:35:30
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EGBDF or EADGBE. OMD, it's OMG. I mean, OMG, it's OMFing D. IMF on the IPA. USP on the UTI. ICE on the ATV. VAR on ASD. GOP on CBD. OMG, it's OMD.
00:35:57
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Always nice to have a mention of a urinary tract infection in a poem on the podcast. Very nice. I'll try and do every episode from now on. Hi, I'm Giles and Stephen's mum.
00:36:09
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And I don't listen to their podcasts. I think they're very silly boys. Where do you want to go now? Well, do you want another Texan advert? Oh yeah, let's go with that. Now, who do you want to offend? you want to offend Mexicans or Native Americans? ah Neither, but let's just put in, obviously, the advert doesn't reflect the views or opinions of the makers of this podcast. Thank you.
00:36:33
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Well, let's go with Native Americans then. Hold on there, bald eagle. You wouldn't fire a man till he finished his Texan pile, would you?
00:36:45
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Fly through the chocolate and chew. Breathe slow.
00:36:57
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Someone should have told him a Texan takes time a-chewin'. Texan sure is a mighty chew. You know, I don't remember Texan bars being particularly enjoyable. No, they were like a ah workout for your jaw, weren't they? they were They were so thick. Yeah, it was not something that... You you could suck the chocolate off, I suppose.
00:37:19
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All you of Earth are idiots. You just hold on, Buster. How we been doing this podcast, man? It's said episode 63. How many years? um Three years. Yeah. So it's changing. It's developing. our We're changing. We're developing. Our lives are changing. Speak for yourself. You know, we're growing.
00:37:39
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We're getting older. People around us are getting older. Times are moving on. The times, they changing. believe as continue... i believe as we continue And the podcast develops.
00:37:53
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Maybe a kind of ah a feature might be, you know, the yeah we do talk about our children quite a lot, don't we? and Yes, the music of our children. Yeah, the music of our children.
00:38:04
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We're going to listen to something that was recorded by my oldest son, Nate, in his band Mad Brando.
Pride in Mad Brando's Creativity
00:38:12
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And, you know... I think it's kind of good. I quite like it. I mean, I know Proud Father and all that. I know, I get it. I get it.
00:38:21
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But it's our fucking podcast. We can play what we like. And I think you might like this. I don't know. You might like this. It's kind of weird. Maybe we should have played it without saying who this band were.
00:38:36
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We could have done. We could have done. But I've already said it now. No, I don't. there was some way I could change it. Okay. ah Right. and Do you think we should do that?
00:38:49
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No, I don't think so. All right. Okay. um So yeah, Mad Brando. Don't know where the name's from. He's in Manchester at the moment. Yeah. This is his band in Manchester.
00:38:59
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And they've done a few gigs. I went to see them once. I thought they were pretty darn impressive. Yeah. I don't think they've got any major plans to take over the world. They're just a bunch of mates, really. Just sort of like and playing along, doing a bit of recording, you know.
00:39:12
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But it does make me feel quite proud listening to it. You know, that he's is doing something so kind of off the wall, really. Yeah. While we listen to it I'm going to try and figure out what kind of influences I can hear in it.
00:39:24
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Maybe you can help me.
00:39:36
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I'm aware of the subtextual nails in which you move.
00:39:43
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You desire the Oedipus Rex, but you'll settle for cheap sex and a holiday mood.
00:39:58
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I choose cause the gumshoe chooses to follow master and slave In the hot rain you lauded me with great difficulty and ballasted with an accusation of sin Say Charlie are you close?
00:40:15
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Cause I've been waiting ages for your train to come here You step off the platform, shake my hand and furnish me with crooked grip
00:40:37
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Me, it takes your headache when kill the spine of my butt.
00:40:51
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And the things you took.
00:41:13
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Last time I saw you, you were clipping your nails out on this overquake.
00:41:21
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I had about 21 great questions for you, but then I heard what you had to say. When you opened up that kind of worms, the buggers, they slim it up and bit me.
00:41:43
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The stench of the skunk and the funk, the gutty-gug and the blues.
00:41:58
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Every single fiber of my being wants to find out
00:42:26
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And the things you took You gave me taste of your head When you killed
00:43:52
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me a taste your headache when killed the spider my book the things you done and the things you took you give me taste your headache when you killed the spider
00:44:27
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I do like a song where it sounds like someone's pushed a drum kit downstairs. Yeah. Very good. Very, very good. I like it a lot. yeah I'm hearing, i mean, I'm i'm definitely hearing Tom Waits.
00:44:38
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Possibly a bit The Specials. Yeah. Possibly, possibly. So what does Nate do in that band, apart from vocals?
00:44:50
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He sings and plays the harmonica and plays big guitar. Plays guitar. And he writes the songs. and weirdly, just like our namesake, Johnny Domino, he's a saxophone player. And that's one thing I would encourage i would encourage him to play some saxophone on some of the Mad Brando stuff. i think it's fitting really well. Fit of a hunker, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ralph Yeah, I really liked it. And I really hope he does some more stuff.
00:45:14
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There's a bit of nepotism right there. but you know, we're going to go with it. Why not? um Why not? And it would be cool if we could, I think, moving forward. It'd be great if one of our kids did a cover version of a Johnny Domino song. That would just blow me away, man.
00:45:30
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Yeah, but now you've asked for it. never going to happen, is it? It's never going to happen. Yeah. It's the way forward. Cross-generational musical stuff happening.
00:45:42
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It is weird that our children are so keen on trying music as a way to, you know, express themselves and potentially make a bit of money, considering how poorly it went for us. Yeah, I know, i know.
00:46:00
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Let's upset some people with another Texan advert. Yeah, go on. This is the one that offends Mexican people. Just to set it up, he is in a firing squad. Okay.
00:46:10
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A last request, gringo. Guess I'll finish this here chewy Texan bar. Por favor. Bite through the chocolate and chew real slow.
00:46:26
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Everybody knows Texan takes time to chew. Could you boys come back next week? Texan sure is a mighty chew.
00:46:38
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You know what, I'm enjoying the Texan advert, Steve. Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle.
00:46:51
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jingle chingoo chingoo chingoo jing go thinking about the podcast, thinking about how it's going to develop. I don't want to force things. Obviously, we're going to try and keep going with the old engagement opportunities, you know, as we're going find out in a minute. We're definitely going to repeat some songs by the Jolly Domino band that we played in earlier episodes. But who's going to listen to back to those early episodes anyway? Nobody, right? So let's just be a psychopath. You'd be crazy, wouldn't you?
00:47:19
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Don't bother listening back anything past. what would What would you say, Steve? What number? When is it worth listening from? I think talking about engagement opportunities, we went in hard with the engagement opportunity, the first one we did, which was the All Them Trimmings. All Them Trimmings. So like from there, I think it it got quite good, didn't it? Yeah, I think it was. So don't listen to anything before All Them Trimmings, yeah.
00:47:43
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That was great. Go back and listen to that. Episode 24. Episode The name of the podcast is This Our Johnny Domino, and we're going to play a Johnny Domino song now.
00:47:58
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And it's not the theme tune to Nightman. It's a song called No Lizard King.
00:48:45
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I just want to come, it's nine to five.
00:49:30
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I love you, don't do best. Take off your best.
00:49:57
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saw film last night about my early life The other night, yeah, I thought it was alright It's getting late now, don't want to go back now Grouped words to show that I am Are you confused?
00:50:20
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Yeah, more ideas to fuck with your head I love you, don't do best, no I'm not dead
00:51:51
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Take off your vest.
00:52:24
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What if you took it and it killed the wrong bit? Would it still be okay? Would it still ever exist? It's a little turnaround, but think you understand.
00:52:38
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I
00:52:42
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don't want this thing getting out of hand. I want it all over.
00:53:27
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The hot sound of acoustic punk from Ilkiston, Derbyshire, East Midlands, England, the UK in 1994 or something.
00:53:40
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Yeah, that was Johnny Domino from the confusingly named The Very Best of This Are Johnny Domino Volume 1, which is available on all streaming services.
00:53:54
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So yeah, that one came to mind as a song that i wanted to listen to. I've been thinking about like how your taste can change and develop. like How you can be completely convinced that you don't like something and then one day you listen to it and you kind of go, yeah, actually, I was wrong. I kind of like it.
00:54:19
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I'm glad that can still happen to me. Yeah, definitely. you know what i mean? I'm in my 50s, right? lot of people in their fifty s they're like, I like what I like.
00:54:31
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I don't want to be like that. I want to be able to change my mind about stuff. Okay, so what have you changed your mind about? Well, i was listening to some Jeff Bookley.
00:54:43
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And the kind of, the sort of strumming, flowing, not quite falling to bits quality of Jeff Buckley kind of made me think of, and and then and I kind of get a little bit of that in the Johnny Domino song we just heard. It's a bit Raga.
00:54:58
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You know I mean? It's a little bit Raga. supposed Like a fucking barbershop. So yeah, it's got that. and There's not that much Jeff Buckley to get into. yeah and He only did one album, one recorded album.
00:55:10
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But I always found it very hard to stomach. Yes. I couldn't get on with those soaring vocals and what he was doing with his voice and the kind of the emotional kind of very, very emotional aspect to it.
00:55:24
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But it's really started to appeal to me now. And I really get I really get it I really got into it. And I don't know why. But I'm pleased that I've started getting into it.
00:55:35
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And I think you should go away and listen to some Jeff Buckley again and see if you like it. Do you like it, Steve? do you like Jeff Buckley? It's not my bag. It's not your bag. That's what I used to say. Okay, but it but it's not. And my daughter was quite into Jeff Buckley for a while.
00:55:52
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So I'll try it again. There's a particular 90s sound in that album. It's very 90s. You know, it's very glassy snare sound. Yeah. And, you know.
00:56:04
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But if you can get past that, to what he's actually doing, there's something kind of cool about it. Okay. Yeah. And I was listening to the Disgraceland podcast. yeah we're We're all fans of that, hopefully. Yes, yes, yes. Right.
00:56:19
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There was a recent repeat of the Jeff Buckley episode about how he died, obviously, tragically. here And that prompted me to listen to some Jeff Buckley episodes.
00:56:32
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and I've been listening to it a lot since actually so okay there you go but yeah um you know and then I sort of like okay well what kind of what could we listen to in the podcast by us and then I thought like yeah No Lizard King it's got that kind strummy thing it's bit rambly and it was recorded in the 90s as well did you enjoy listening to it again Steve I've always liked that song. I like the fact, I mean, that one is particularly loosey goosey because we recorded the guitar tracks at the same time. That was the first bit of the song that we recorded.
00:57:05
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i was on acoustic, you're on electric lead. And then we did the drums over the top of that, but it's two man drums. So I think, I don't know who was doing the bass drum. That might've been you.
00:57:18
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I was doing the cymbals and the snare. so I like the drums on it. I like the drums on it. It sounds cool. It's that brotherly thing where we we each know ish what the other one is going to do. It's like the sound of a different time though, man, that is It's like, it's like i can't imagine what kind of human being would make that.
00:57:39
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I wouldn't be able to do that now. ah you what I mean? But it's cool listening back to it. Yeah. ah like I always like the fact that the lyrics are slightly about Jim Morrison as well.
00:57:51
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Yeah. Coming back. yeah It's a bit tongue-in-cheek. Yeah. You know. Is that still one of your favourite musical biopics? Well, the Doors film. The Doors film. used to bloody love that film. Yeah, don't know. It's been a long time since I've seen him man it, man. I don't know. I'm not going to go out on a limb and say I like that as a film until I watch it again. Okay.
00:58:12
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I went to a gig recently.
Experience at Celeste Concert
00:58:15
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went to see the singer Celeste at Kentish Town 4 in London Town. Oh, man, it was an interesting gig. Let me tell you about it.
00:58:26
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You know Celeste? She does a soulful, jazzy torch song thing. She's got a pretty cool voice. Some people might find it divisive. I quite like it She played a gig at the Kentish Town Forum to a full house. You know, it was crowded. It was a hot evening.
00:58:45
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i went with the missus. She's a big fan. You know, I'm not like a huge fan, but I'm kind of getting into it. You know, again, my musical taste is changing. dont know She's doing all the hits. She's doing that jazzy kind of low key, slightly Amy Winehouse kind of singing type stuff. And then about five songs in, it all went a bit weird.
00:59:05
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And she did the, I'm going to do some new songs now thing. And... It went very different. It got noisy. It went all a bit gothic, expansive rock.
00:59:18
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At times, it was a bit tin machine. At other times, it was a bit radio head. She was well into it. You know, she was rocking out and she took the crowd with her and the band.
00:59:30
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You know, it was it was, the reception was good. That's what I want to say. Yes. But what was interesting, it was good to see an actual artist doing what they want to do and following their am muse and experimenting in front of a large crowd.
00:59:47
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you She was actually just doing what the fuck she wanted. It was cool. i think i can't remember the last time I've seen that. You know, most live performances these days, it's people delivering what the crowd want, isn't it But she didn't.
01:00:04
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she She just did her thing. You know, cards on the table. I didn't love the new stuff, but I was quite glad that she did it. And I was i was even gladder when she finished the new stuff and went back to the lovely, jazzy, soulful torch songs. But...
01:00:18
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okay I do know that I feel a lot of respect for her. And I think it was a remarkable thing to see. It was a remarkable gig.
01:00:29
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So go and see Celeste if you get a chance. It blew my mind, man. Tell you what else blew my mind. Someone drove into Ilkiston Bowling Alley. Yeah, man.
01:00:40
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Did you see that? I've seen the pictures. The town where we grew up had a bowling alley. Yeah. Or has a bowling alley. It's now a very run-down bowling alley. It's still open, though.
01:00:52
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It was one of the few things to recommend the town, to be honest. It's got a bowling alley, right? Still open. Bit knackered. It's even more knackered now because someone drove a car through the side of the bowling alley, across all of the lanes, into the other side wall.
01:01:09
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Yeah. mad it's all over tiktok that's the sort of town we come from that's the hood we're from man fucking hell it's been hot right so let's end the episode with some hot weather tunes hot weather tunes but you hit me with the topic of hot summer tunes and the one it's not a new one though is that allowed You can go with any tunes that you consider to be good tunes to listen to or to sum up the feeling of being in hot weather.
01:01:44
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But all I'm going to say is you're allowed a maximum of three. Okay, well, i've got two immediately came to mind. some' The first one came to mind is not a favourite song of mine, but it's Long Hot Summer by the Style Council.
01:01:59
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Oh, yeah. It sounds like summer. dude do it do Yeah, that badger. You know, I can see Paul Weller. Is he on a gondola or ah ah sort of like a punt?
01:02:13
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He's a punt. It's going to be a punt, isn't it? Paul Weller's on a punt. He's a person on a punt. But that sounds like summer. And the other one, which is probably from a similar sort of time, is Gary Bird and the GB experience and The Crown. Yeah.
01:02:30
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which is a great song. And I've got a very, very specific memory of it, which is from the summer of 1983. And I was at my friend, David Bowlby.
01:02:44
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e I was at his house, well, his parents' house. was a very hot day, and we were listening to that song, and we'd invented a game. Now, this is Ilkiston. This Ilkiston children inventing their own fun.
01:02:57
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The game involved running to the bottom of the garden, sticking your head in a bucket of water, then running back, and that basically then the other person would run down, stick the head in a bucket of water, run back.
01:03:12
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There you go. That was what we did. Perfectly reasonable behaviour. Yeah, and every time... I hear The Crown by Gary Bird. I think of that. I thought you were going to say you want to stick your head in a book book of war. No, I think it's a great song. It's like a 10 minute long tune. It's like a history lesson with Gary Bird. And then just when you think, my God, this song's going on forever. Then Stevie turns up. Stevie Wonder turns up.
01:03:37
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it's a fantastic piece of music. And that is my memory. And I was really pleased. It was actually three years ago. here David did a post about the fact that his dad was moving out of the family home.
01:03:51
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evening And I said, oh, I've got great memories of that house, especially in weather like this, because it was very hot. And he said, I still dip my head in a cold bucket of water on hot days. I must play The Crown next time. And that really, i found that so amazing that we both have the same memory of this daft game all wrapped up in the same song.
01:04:17
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I just love that. Well, that is kind of amazing, actually, Steve. Thanks for sharing. It's beautiful. I think that's cool. you know that you And it is great when you talk to somebody that you knew all those years ago yeah and you've got that shared memory. Yeah.
01:04:32
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It is kind of an amazing thing to happen. yeah I love that. I love you, man. Yeah, nice, aren't Yeah. Okay, have you got any? Hot weather tunes.
01:04:44
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I'm going to say white denim. White denim. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah. Okay. Man, I love white denim. You like a bit of chugle, don't you? Imagine a world where everybody's stoned all the time, right? And it's hot.
01:04:59
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White denim would be fucking massive. Yeah. Right? Be yourself. Try to have a good time. That's a message I can get behind, right?
01:05:10
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And the other classic hot weather in the city song that always listen to at least three times a year when it gets to this time of year and it's fucking hot and I have to drive around is Sonic Youth Hyperstation from all the often mentioned Daydream Nation album. That's a good one. Hyperstation.
01:05:33
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It's the sound of a fucking boiling hot city. Yeah. That kind of oppressive glaring heat bouncing off the concrete.
01:05:44
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It's amazing. Hyperstation's a tune. It's amazing. I'm going to listen to that. Yeah. Oh, the Butthole Surfers have got a new album out. but It's a new old album, isn't it? It's got new album out, man.
01:05:57
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You've got to listen to that. Have you listened to it? Yeah, i have, actually. Yeah, I have. It's basically what band can make sense of the madness that's going on in America at this point.
01:06:12
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and Okay. The Butthole Surfers can try. They'll give it a go. Good for them. Don't know whether they fully succeed, but they give it a go. Yes.
01:06:25
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We've mentioned the bottle surfers. I must say, read the chapter on the bottle surfers from the book, Our Band Could Be Your Life. Oh, man, it's great. And then your life will be complete. Well, it won't, but you'll know a lot more about the bottle surfers. You might appreciate them. You might appreciate them a bit more, and you should appreciate them. Yes, and you'll have a greater idea of what the human body can withstand as far as extreme hallucinogens and physical violence. Exactly. And we all need to know that. Got to know what we can stand.
01:06:59
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Here we are at the end of the episode. Thank you very much, Steve. And you. Please. Tell your friends, tell people that might like this kind of thing to listen to this podcast because word of mouth mouth is the only thing that really is the only way that it this can grow. Absolutely. um Please leave a review on something. That would be great as well.
01:07:22
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Got to be one but one call to action. one call please leave a review. No, one call the one call to action is tell a friend. Tell a friend and leave a review.
01:07:32
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That's two calls to action. All right. Yeah. Yeah. And that's it. That's all. That's all. And send us some cake. Three calls to action. I don't want cake. How's the cake going to get to us? I don't know. Not cake. All Not cake then. It's the wrong place. What can they send us? I don't know. Something cold. Something cold. Send us something cold.
01:07:56
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Right. Speak to you soon. Love you. Bye bye. bye.