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Baba’s Bizarre And The Lynx Effect
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Join Steve and Giles as they spend some quality 'brother time' and appreciate more obscure tunes together.
There are inspired musical contributions from George Ajjan and I Am Wilbraham, as well as a ‘Best of TAJD’ candidate and the usual gubbins.
Including…
- Minecraft debasement
- Interpolation clarification
- Deodorant melodies
- Elston beats a hasty one…
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Transcript
Impact of Past Relationships
00:00:00
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You cut me deep. You cut me deep. So deep. You made me strong. You made me strong. So strong. You made me feel the confidence at play.
00:00:15
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We had a good thing going. Never a time I cried. The light you cut so deep in me will stay till the day I die.
Podcast Introduction & Musical Themes
00:00:42
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Bye.
00:00:50
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That's driving me slightly bonkers. Hello. What were those lyrics from? Well, it must ring a bell, right? It really does. And it's like someone is singing it like, you could be deep. Yes, that's it. Like Tesco's own brand, Brian Ferry.
00:01:08
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That was a very good impression of the Jasmine Minx. The Jasmine Minx. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. You cut me
Creation Records Compilation Discussion
00:01:16
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deep. Thank you very much for joining us on another edition of the This Are Johnny Domino podcast, a lighthearted and musical podcast where myself, Steve Woodward, and my brother, Giles Woodward, talk about songs that we wrote and recorded.
00:01:34
Speaker
ah Many, many, many, many years ago. Many, many, many. other bits of music that people send to us for us to talk about. That's it. So yeah, Jasmine Minx, that came to mind because I've been listening almost exclusively to Doing It For The Kids, a Creation Records compilation from August 88.
00:01:53
Speaker
eighty eight Wow. That's well spent, isn't it I think it was a bargain, to be honest. It was an album for the price of a single, as it says on the front cover.
00:02:04
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It's got some good tracks on it. It's a bit of a musical rollercoaster, but I do like the Jasmine Minx. It's very nice. It's a sort ah nice, sensitive pop song. Do you remember any tracks off it?
00:02:17
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remember... God. There's My Bloody Valentine song on it. Does it start with Christine by a House of Love? No, that's I think that's on the first side. Yeah, it's got like some good sort of um very adult-sounding pop music like the House of Love and the the Weather Prophets.
00:02:35
Speaker
Oh, yes. They're so mature. Old. And then then you've got the Primal Scream, obviously. What song is it on there? Oh, it's like a really annoying twee-shit one. Proper Django.
00:02:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's bad. And it's got Momus, The Complete History of Sexual Jealousy, Parts 17 to 24. A good title for a song. Yeah. Unfortunately, i missed the first 16 parts of it. Will I be able to follow it?
00:03:00
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I always wondered where parts 1 to 8 and parts 9 to 16 were, Steve, to be honest. But he's got an album called Tender Pervert, which I've got to listen to. That's horrific.
00:03:12
Speaker
Yeah. That's a horrible album title. Cool. and How have you been anyway? I'm all right. I'm good. I'm good. What have you been up to? What have I been up to? I haven't been doing a huge amount. We've just had half term as we record this, and we're just kind of getting back into the swing of things.
Anticipation for Richard Dawson Concert
00:03:29
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Next week, excitingly, I'm going to a gig. Oh, that's exciting. It is exciting. Please tell us. I'm going to see Richard Dawson in Nottingham. Oh, cool. By the time this episode comes out, I will have been to see Richard Dawson, and he was either great Or rubbish? Well, you can tell us about it next episode. Schrodinger's gig.
00:03:48
Speaker
Yeah, where's he playing? He's playing at the Metronome in Nottingham, which I've never been to. um that's right. It's where Dad used to work. Yeah. That's the old post office building in Nottingham. It used to be where our dad used to work.
00:04:01
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Yeah.
00:04:03
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You have to say what you've been up to now. What you've been up to?
Minecraft Movie Review & Reflections
00:04:08
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Okay, I'll do it again. What have you been up to? I've been watching Married at First Sight a lot. What, Australia? NAFSA?
00:04:16
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Yeah, so I'm getting into the lingo. Yeah. There's a lot of talk about red flags and ticking the box. Yep. And non-negotiables. Deal breakers. Yeah, deal breakers. It's non-negotiable.
00:04:29
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And Bogan. I've heard about Bogans. Remind me what a bogan is. A bogan is ah an Australian chav. Oh, nice. Apparently. So, yeah, I've learnt that. What about me pie?
00:04:40
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You've eaten half of it. Now rack off. I went to see the Minecraft movie. Oh, excellent. A Minecraft movie. It's worrying, isn't it? It's called a Minecraft. It means there's some more in the pipe. Yeah, but I've got a bit of a review I'm going to give you.
00:04:56
Speaker
Please do. I went on a family outing to watch the ah Minecraft movie film, 10 Years Too Late. If they'd got that movie together maybe 10 years earlier with slightly less good CGI and slightly younger, more vital Jack Black, back then my two sons, who would have been 10 and 7, and I would have really loved it, I think.
00:05:21
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If it were made then, we would probably have lost our shit to how good it was. We spent an awful lot of time playing Minecraft together and thinking and talking a lot about Minecraft together.
00:05:33
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We even had a land called ah Gilesania. Nice. Gilesania. yeah Yeah. Imagine what that place is like. But now we have the Minecraft movie and it's hard to feel that this is just another thing that once was meaningful to you in some way that grew organically through the culture, perhaps, that's now been processed and packaged and resold to us.
00:05:56
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as another bad sequel. And this movie is a bad sequel to a thing that wasn't even originally a film.
Fatherhood and Parenting Reflections
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Even Jack Black being his Jack Blackest can't save it. The script and story are so lame, they should have been written by a really, really good shit AI and not as it actually was by a room full of people who think that they're clever and found themselves funny.
00:06:23
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a I found the way it looked to be pornographically bad. There were ugly HD renderings of what was and is an iconically beautiful pixelated wonderland It had music too, a couple of low-grade Jack Black improvisations and a shitty rework of the end of School of Rock.
00:06:46
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And the best action scene in the film featured the soundtrack of Private Idaho by the B-52s, which was a high point, to be honest.
00:06:57
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yeah On the whole, it's ah it was a nice evening and it felt good to see a film with them. And it brought a sense of resolution in a way. You know, your kids growing up is a period of loss and mourning in some ways.
00:07:09
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And you miss the feeling of someone who holds you at the center of their being. And as they grow up and get their own lives and separate from you, and you miss that sense of being someone's dad in that way.
00:07:22
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But now you're a different kind of dad. And they're basically an adult and your children. And they are the coolest and most interesting people you know. And you can go and watch shit movies and eat chicken shop chicken and chips with them.
00:07:37
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So it's not all that bad. And that was my experience. It doesn't sound great. Apparently, it is massively, massively successful.
00:07:50
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Yeah, the soundtrack was by Mark Mothersborough as well. He does all kinds of shit. he does all kinds of shit. Which is weird when you think about Devo and where they came from. Yeah. And now he is Captain's soundtrack.
00:08:02
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That is him. He's doing some good stuff and doing some bad stuff. And there you go. This is where we But lot of good stuff that we do like. He did. He did. But the soundtrack is pretty poor, to be honest, yeah as is the rest of the movie.
00:08:18
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So go and see it, though. You know, if you haven't seen it, I'm interested in knowing what other people think of it, to be
Listener Engagement & Music Submissions
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honest. But, yeah, I didn't love it, but I had a really nice evening. and Hi, I'm Giles and Stephen's mum, and I don't listen to their podcasts.
00:08:35
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I think they're very silly boys. As we say, we tend to listen to our own music on this podcast in a kind of self-congratulatory way, but we also listen to music that people have sent to us, and we've started getting unsolicited music coming to us. That's nice. Which I think is quite exciting.
00:08:57
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you know, some people might say it's because we're on some kind of list of music websites to ask in there in their transcripts for people to send their music. Stop it. Stop it. Stop with that cynicism. I don't care.
00:09:09
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I'm loving it. It's all great. And we received an email a couple of weeks ago ah from a man called George Ajahn. Or is it Adrian? After a little bit of waffle, he talks about, he listened to one of the podcasts and makes some references to it, which is always very nice.
00:09:24
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He says, given your appreciation for reimagined sounds, and that is in reference to your mate Simon's song, which was... a cover version of 24-Hour Party People by the Happy Mondays over different music, which we played last episode.
George Ajahn's Musical Projects
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Good song.
00:09:40
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He's got a project which is called To Be Arranged. He describes it as a love letter to musical fusion, melding strikingly diverse genres like Taylor Swift pop and King Crimson prog rock.
00:09:51
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Mm-hmm. yeah effectively he's doing mashups but with live instruments yes he is yeah and it's and he's done like a whole album hasn't he he's done a lot and he's got a lot in the pipeline well i'll tell you about him from the email later right but interesting lots to say about george but yeah this track that we're going to play is called baba's bizarre and it's a mashup let's not give the ingredients away oh it's a mashup It's called Baba's Bizarre. mean, you can probably figure it out from the title. Yeah, okay. You're right. You're right. Let's go. The two main ingredients, but yeah, let's go.
00:10:32
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How bizarre.
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How bizarre.
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Every time I look around
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i don't need to fight to prove i'm right
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i don't need to be forgiven
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Only Teenage Wasteland
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We'll travel South Crossland I start with O&C Then match up with the who I can't release on Spotify So I set up for YouTube Don't treat CZF major But that's too high for me So modulate it down a fourth Cause how bizarre is it see Artists and chords and basses Guitar that's national tune Drums don't play a 90s beat But imitate Keith Moon How bizarre
00:13:13
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Al Bazar. Teenage Wasteland. Only Teenage Wasteland. Teenage Wasteland, oh yeah.
00:13:25
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Teenage Wasteland. Teenage Wasteland. Teenage Wasteland. Only Teenage Wasteland. Artists cannot feed themselves from streaming revenues.
00:13:35
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They're all wasted.
00:14:04
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Hey, kind of remind people we're listening to the This Our Joey Domino podcast. I think that's probably the one of the most well-recorded things that we've ever played. Oh, yeah.
00:14:16
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That is heroically odd. It's proper, isn't it? Yeah, he's got some proper musicians on there. He has, yeah. Playing some proper instruments. Yeah. I'll tell you what I love. What did love? love the fact that he he describes his process halfway through and says it's called interpolation. Yes, I know. There's a rap.
00:14:37
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It's all interpolation. When I change the song's intent, I take the risk of prison time without original consent. The industry is broken by its arbitrary rules. Artists cannot feed themselves from streaming revenues.
00:14:50
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yeah Oh, I like what he's saying. And he can't put it on Spotify, so he's sticking it on YouTube. Yeah, it's good. he he explains He explains this process. Exactly. By way of background.
00:15:00
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Yes, please. ah Apparently, over breakfast one day, his cousin's wife was walking through the kitchen singing Every Time I Look Around, Every Time I Look Around, to which he sang back Teenage Wasteland.
00:15:11
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And he discovered that the two songs fit together. and say it with the same chords and a close tempo. So there you go. That's a real sliding doors moment, isn't it?
00:15:22
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I don't know whether it was his first one, but he's got a whole album full of of mashups. Yeah. I would encourage people ah who listen to this podcast who perhaps can appreciate the more progressive end of things.
00:15:37
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Hi there. To explore. We'll put the link in the show notes, definitely. Yeah. ah But yeah, I really and enjoy i really enjoyed it. And I think we're going to hear some more from from George in the future because on his email, he says to me,
00:15:52
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You know, he gives me lots of info. I mean, he's a guy that's obviously had a bit of a career. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you if you if you if you Google the guy, he's done some shit, shall we say, outside of music.
00:16:04
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Basically, the process of making this was he kind of took a a self-funded internship and paid for a bunch of professional players to work with him in a recording studio.
00:16:15
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And this is an experiment really, which he's kind of getting used to the process. and and And then he's starting to record his own stuff. And he's releasing his first official album over the course of 2025. So we'll listen out for that.
00:16:29
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And then he's got in 2026, he's got another mashups concept based on Vivaldi's four seasons. And then, 2027, he's got another album, a concept piece based upon coming to terms with mortality.
00:16:44
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And then he's got another full album sketched out after that. Holy crap. So its he's got a lot of stuff coming in um down the pipeline. We'll listen out for it. We'll keep in touch with George, hopefully.
Reflections on Health and Living in the Present
00:16:54
Speaker
Wow, that is some planning going on there. That's a serious plan. mean We need to get our arse in gear, Steve. It'd be quite good, wouldn't it, to have that much...
00:17:06
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That's insane. The guy's got some gumption. He's got four or five albums planned. Yeah. Bonkers. There you go, man. Hats off to George. Yeah. That's the way to do it.
00:17:19
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I'm just popping on to say that George's project is called The Agency, which is spelt A-J-J-A-N-C-Y. The link, as always, will be in the show notes.
00:17:34
Speaker
So obviously we're we're not that good at planning here at this odd Johnny Domino, but we are constantly evolving and we are, you know, we're trying to sort of keep this podcast moving, I suppose, in our own way, in our own jazz improvisation way.
00:17:49
Speaker
Jazz-oos-a. In terms of dice of diversification, i'm I'm thinking perhaps about maybe we can put a bit more health content in there. Okay. But, you know, i don't know how people feel about it.
00:18:02
Speaker
Things are going okay with me. I know I mentioned a couple of episodes ago that i I've got the cancer. and I am starting some sort of treatment at the moment. I'm feeling all right. It's kind of got me thinking, obviously. And I've been thinking about good things about having cancer.
00:18:17
Speaker
Now, I know there's people out there that have you know probably lost someone to cancer and maybe having a really bad time. So I'm meaning this purely subjectively. I'm not trying to belittle anything, but this is my personal viewpoint.
00:18:31
Speaker
Good things about having cancer. There are two things. Number one, you can play the cancer card to get out of doing stuff, which is pretty fucking bomb proof, to be honest. And number two,
00:18:43
Speaker
It brings you some pause, you know, it brings you into the moment. You know, we spend an awful lot of time as human beings dwelling in the past, thinking about shit that we did, shit that we shouldn't have done, things that we wish we hadn't done, things we said that we regret, blah, bla blah, blah.
00:19:04
Speaker
And there's no point, you know, you're never going to like do anything about it. And we think a lot about the future. You know, we're always making shit up about things that we're going to do and stuff that could happen and worrying about things that could happen.
00:19:18
Speaker
And, you know, when you've got cancer, yeah, you can definitely worry about things that could happen. But the thing that it does, ironically, it does make you live in the present, which is really the only place to be.
00:19:29
Speaker
And you can appreciate the world, As it is, you know. and that's really the only way to to move forward, I think, really. To be honest, Steve.
00:19:41
Speaker
I think so too. Yeah, but you know. I'm going a bit philosophical there, aren't I, really? No, it's true. I mean, you know, when I was diagnosed with MS, it's like the stages of grief.
00:19:53
Speaker
You go through this thing and eventually you have to get to acceptance. And it takes a lot of people a long time to get there. And again, I'm not belittling anyone's own struggles. And MS is something which is completely individual to everybody and everyone's response to ah life-changing diagnosis.
00:20:10
Speaker
is completely different. But there is something about coming to some kind of acceptance. Yeah, definitely. And you do have to find your own way through it.
00:20:21
Speaker
Yeah. yeah But you got this the only way you can get through it is not thinking about how shit things are and and actually just thinking, actually, this at this point is all right, as it is.
00:20:35
Speaker
Yeah. I will pull you up if you play the cancer card too often, though. Yeah, well, you can. Okay. But nobody else can. No one else can, man. So, you know, that's it anyway.
00:20:47
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i
00:20:53
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We talked about product placement few episodes
Listener Feedback and Product Placement
00:20:56
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ago, weren't we? We were talking about how that could be an idea, an engagement opportunity, if you will.
00:21:03
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Yeah. We're all about getting our listeners engaged with this kind of shit that we do. Yeah. I got a letter from the aforementioned SG Richardson, who we played the last episode. Gateman.
00:21:14
Speaker
Yeah. And he was and a bit annoyed, actually. he's He's expressed his annoyance in his ah in his communication with me. He was annoyed about why we were so down on Jay Silverheels because he he really rates that song.
00:21:27
Speaker
Wow. And about the ah product placement opportunity, he says we should stop reinforcing the corporate hegemony. Okay. Well, I mean, that's ah that's that's cool and everything. Stop being ironic about it.
00:21:40
Speaker
Let's do something else. But, you know, baby needs a new pair of shoes. Good point. Good point. We can't all live in an artistic wilderness of ah righteousness, of wokeness, can we?
00:21:53
Speaker
God. Please don't use that. He says his message, he says, sorry for being woke, rather be woke than asleep. I do kind of agree with that, to honest. I absolutely agree with him. But, you know, we're kind of doing it in a ironic sort of way.
00:22:08
Speaker
It's not going to change the world, is it? i don't think our song about Gaviscon will ever get used in an advert. It should do because it's great. But this is the world we live in. True.
00:22:19
Speaker
Anyway, we've got one, haven't We've got a new one. We've got a new one sent to us by our friend Will in his guise of I Am Wilbraham. Friend of the show.
Identity and Personal Scents
00:22:28
Speaker
We've played him quite a lot.
00:22:30
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That's because he's great. Because he is great. um He submitted a fantastic song for the All Them Trimmins compilation, which is available on Bandcamp and all streaming services.
00:22:43
Speaker
Oh, good marketing there. Marketing, Steve. Yeah, but it's great. it's know That was where we found some lyrics in an old book. We read them out and people submitted their own interpretations of those lyrics. Yeah.
00:22:53
Speaker
I think Will's might have been the first one that got sent in. Yeah, marketing is your strength, i have to say. No, no, no. he has written a song, a product placement song, about a subject which is very close to his heart.
00:23:14
Speaker
What do you think links Africa with links?
00:23:23
Speaker
Africa. Walks on the wild side sure make me sweat It's hot on this cotter don't you forget Now come on what smell would you like me to wear What kind of man would you like standing there The fog overwhelms me, I breathe in it short.
00:23:52
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Spiritary trouble is here from the start. The fog overwhelms me, I'm down on my knees.
00:24:02
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Oh please, please, please, please let me breathe.
00:24:22
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Alaska, I'll ask her the question and see what she says. It's hot in Alaska, that's what everyone says.
00:24:36
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Come on, what smell do you like me to wear? What kind of man do you like standing there? The fuck overwhelms me, my breathing is shone.
00:24:57
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The fuck overwhelms me, I'm down on my knees. Oh, please, please. Please.
00:25:14
Speaker
What do you think links me and my son? You knew were love all the links in this song I may have outgrown it but still understand That you're of the sense that now doesn't make sense Now come on, what smell would you like knitting well?
00:25:41
Speaker
What kind of man would you like standing there? The bug overwhelms me, my breathing is shown. The spirit tree trouble is here from the start The fog overwhelms me, I'm down on my knees Oh please, please, please, please let me breathe
00:26:39
Speaker
And that is the sound of i Am Wilbraham with his song, The Lynx Effect. Yeah, it was good. So it's about his mutual love of links that he shares with his son.
00:26:53
Speaker
and don't think it's necessarily a ah love of it. I think it's a kind of ah necessity that men have to go through of trying to find a sense that works for them. And links Africa is is very much... It's part of the process, isn't it?
00:27:09
Speaker
It's top of mind. It's part of the process of finding out what kind of person, what kind of man you want to become. You've got to like fight figure out what smell you want.
00:27:21
Speaker
I mean, that's what he's saying there. Yeah. But I think it's interesting because the previous recordings we've played of Will in his I Am Wilbraham guys have you know been quite serious.
00:27:33
Speaker
And that is showing a hitherto unknown half man off biscuit element. Yeah, I get that. Musically. Yeah, maybe a bit. I don't know though. I mean, he's he's always strong on the words and it's got some nice word play in it.
00:27:46
Speaker
What do you think links Alaska with links? Alaska. I do like that. That's very good. It's very good. It's kind of like Jamaica, isn't it? It's very good.
00:27:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. it still sounds like him. But yeah, it's got the doodly doodly doodly kind of line that's got a bit of a half man off biscuit kind of thing going on, hasn't it?
00:28:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's the thing that really sticks out for me in a half-man-of-biscuit sort of way. But he records his guitars in a very beautiful way. He does. And he's singing about real stuff yeah that's happening to him.
00:28:22
Speaker
That's what I like about it. You know, it's like he's he's living this. Yeah, and and ah look at i mean I'll look at the words now. I don't think he's entirely complimentary. The chorus goes, the fog overwhelms me, my breathing is short, respiratory trouble is here from the start. Yeah, well, it does take over as when someone's wearing too much. You know, it can be very oppressive, can't it? Yeah.
00:28:43
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Yeah. ah You know what? That actually reminds me of something because you're talking about choosing scents and I think we'll get back on track in a second.
Nostalgia for Old Advertisements
00:28:50
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But when I was growing up, it wasn't about links.
00:28:54
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It was about insignia. Yes. Yes.
00:29:09
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Insignia, the new all-over body program. And it's all over now.
00:29:24
Speaker
insignia the new all over body
00:29:34
Speaker
That was a tune. It was a tune. That was the only advert of theirs that I really remembered. But there were at least three others. Now, one of them, it was like he was on a production line with a sexy female robot, like a mucky Wallace and Gromit machine type thing.
00:29:52
Speaker
And it was undress him and spray him all over and then sort of blow him kisses. don't remember that at all. And then there was a later version you know, the interpretation of the Stones as it's all over now. oh they did it again.
00:30:05
Speaker
And the other version, the vocal is, it's like the Jim Jones review. Oh, wow. It goes, create a buzz, not a hum. Oh, can we not hear that one as well? I used to wake this morning, really go to town.
00:30:20
Speaker
Loads of overpowering smells, made my best friends proud. So try it, senior, create a buzz, not a hum.
00:30:32
Speaker
And I remembered the first Christmas I got a whole set of Insignia stuff, which was at least three or four years before I started shaving. Oh. But I smelled good. I bet you did.
00:30:44
Speaker
I smelled good. I bet you did. Just one smell though, not a mashup. Oh, Paco Roban. I remember Paco Roban. That was mine. Yeah. In the advert that that music was from, he works in office and people would sort of like turn away in disgust because it's a complete overwhelming fog that he's carrying around with him.
00:31:03
Speaker
But when he he starts using insignia, he looks better as well. Yeah, course. And all the sexy ladies that work in the office, they all take their glasses off. It's always a sign when women take their glasses off and let their hair down, isn't it? Yes. That's a subtle signal that they give you sometimes, I find.
00:31:21
Speaker
Yes. Anyways. It's always nice to hear something from our listeners. Yeah. Yeah. Please do. If you've got any more of those product placement type songs in the pipeline, please send them in. Yeah.
00:31:33
Speaker
Ignore what Simon Gatemouth Richardson says. It's always nice to hear from our listeners, but recently we've upset some of our core listeners, including Will. Have we? And our mate Frankie Machine, a.k.a. Rob.
00:31:46
Speaker
Oh, dear. Oh, dear.
Positivity Towards Baldness Campaign
00:31:48
Speaker
They felt we have been disrespecting our bald brethren. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. think last episode I might have done a few things in response to the shine on weekend of perhaps going there and being surrounded by a lot of hairless men.
00:32:07
Speaker
Yeah. I took that as you were just noticing the number of hairless men. You're right. That's it. I wasn't being down on it. In fact, well, we've had to talk about this. I think we're going to start being a bit more bold positive, aren't we, Steve? Yeah. I mean, sorry, let's just go back a second because Rob in particular was upset that I talked about the fact that I was pleased that William Potter from CUD had lost his hair.
00:32:34
Speaker
um and Yeah, and i think that's harsh, but it was going back to college days, and he was the, in air quotes, pinup of the band Cud, and he had very lovely floppy hair. Oh, dear. So you were joining in on the anti-bald sentiment, Steve. It may have all come from me. it wasn't all from you.
00:32:53
Speaker
ah For which I apologize. but Oh, dear. yeah, we're going to a little bit more... We are. we We're going to start to be actually more proactive with this. And we're going to start a bald positive campaign on the This Our Johnny Domino podcast.
00:33:06
Speaker
And it's going to be a very conscious thing. So we're going to start referencing more bald musicians. Okay. And I'm going to make a t-shirt, think. and Okay. A bald positive t-shirt.
00:33:19
Speaker
Yes. So, you know, we we know, we love you. We see you out there. Yeah. We see you, bald man. We see you and we understand you just because we've at the moment got some hair. We're all the same.
00:33:32
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We're all the same. We're all bald underneath our hair. We're all bald underneath our
00:33:39
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Don't use that. Don't use that. We
00:33:44
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were doing so well. Oh, God. It was going so well. ah Right. Yes.
00:33:56
Speaker
Actually, i've got I've got a bone to pick with you anyway, bro. Because also last episode, you, you, bloody control freak that you are, you basically edited out.
00:34:10
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Well, you didn't edit
Podcast Editing and Listener Perceptions
00:34:11
Speaker
it out, did you? You highlighted it. You highlighted the fact that I misspelt chat chat. g is it i can't even what it is yes yeah anyway jack p jack jack gpt not not thinking that maybe just maybe i did it intentionally to confuse and offend the ais that are coming that going to be all-powerful Yeah, maybe I did it on purpose. And I feel that your editing is going too far.
00:34:44
Speaker
And I'm going to explain why I think your editing is going too far. And it's bad for the podcast. I've got five key points to my argument. Herewith.
00:35:13
Speaker
And that's it, really. i hope you take this on board, Steve. I find this a red flag and it is completely non-negotiable. Okay.
00:35:24
Speaker
In my defense, I was just protecting you from snarky listeners who may have noticed the fact that you misspelled chat GPT. And if you remember, the way I said it was, move on.
00:35:37
Speaker
You got the letters in the wrong order. That's it. It's not a big deal. it's all right. That's all I was doing. Okay. I'm sorry. I've got it off my chest now. I will listen to your points. Okay. Thank you. And I will take note of them.
00:35:49
Speaker
Thanks. So now we're going to listen to a song. Do we have to? do we have to include a Johnny Domino song? It's called This Our Johnny Domino.
00:36:01
Speaker
you know I suppose we better. We have to listen to at least one.
History of Johnny Domino Band
00:36:05
Speaker
but We better. The people who are just joining us now, In God's Name Why... But if you've been with us from the start, you will know that the purpose of the podcast is we are trying to build the ultimate best of Johnny Domino songs. Which is our band.
00:36:21
Speaker
That was our band back in the day. And we did a lot recording at home. released a few albums, and we are trying to create a best of this old Johnny Domino compilation. We've got two volumes out currently on streaming sites, links in the show notes, and we are groping our way towards the third volume of the best of Johnny Domino. We are. And this is a song called The Retreat.
00:36:48
Speaker
We recorded it in 1997. Mm-hmm. ninety ninety seven And it got released on a vinyl record that was released by ah Mike Landucci.
00:36:59
Speaker
Let's not say the name of the record label again. Okay. not On a record label, which is not a very nice name. But, you know, he presses up a mini album of our songs, and this is one of them.
00:37:48
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Past the dust cause I think I'm born of My conscience weighs me down Don't think I'm getting enough I'm not getting enough Comes down to beauty and brains Sliding down into heaven
00:38:42
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Got scratched so badly Will I ever feel the same?
00:38:56
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Just remember Bad Disco Comes down to brains and beauty So happy to be sitting pretty Got the brats swinging from their chains.
00:39:14
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Cashing in on self-pity.
00:39:23
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Sliding down into heaven. At the bottom of a drain. I still dream of winning.
00:39:39
Speaker
wanted fame just a corpse on an empty stage crying into our paper cups someone took our anthem and they messed it up someone took our anthem and they messed
00:40:32
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Someone took our anthem and they messed it up Someone took our anthem and they messed it up
00:40:58
Speaker
Surgery, is that the answer? Alcohol, is that the answer? That was Johnny Domino with The Retreat.
00:41:12
Speaker
Yeah, and looking at my extensive notes, that song was recorded in its entirety on the 6th of June, 1997. Crikey.
00:41:23
Speaker
It was recorded in our mum and dad's house, as a lot of our songs were. And that was, you were playing the guitar, was playing the bass, and Jim was singing, yep and Mark was doing something. i don't know what he was doing, but he was doing something on it.
00:41:40
Speaker
He was playing the keyboards. ah You know what he was doing, was playing the keyboards. And he sent a little note about that song. Hi, Steve. Hi, Giles. Love the show. Love your work.
00:41:51
Speaker
Keep on doing it. Just wanted to say something about The Retreat. It's quite a modest little song in some ways. Doesn't take up an awful lot of room. It sounds quite vulnerable, and particularly Jim's vocal, which I really like.
00:42:04
Speaker
Don't know what the lyric's about. You'll have to have a word with Giles or with Jim about that one. I think when I first joined the band, I was covering a lot of Albert's keyboard parts on things like Red Sonja. Certainly wasn't covering his intellect or sense of humour, that's for certain.
00:42:18
Speaker
But I felt by the time we did the session that this came from, I think we did some stuff in Dick's Kitchen that I was making a ah contribution my own. I just bought that Korg MS-10, which I loved.
00:42:32
Speaker
And the guitar playing on this is almost like kind of chicly or trumped in it. It's sort of very lyrical British folky. There's lovely little gentle builds in it with fantasy all getting too droney.
00:42:46
Speaker
The other thing, we didn't use the Alesis on it. The Alesis was quite an aggressive early 90s sounding thing which really worked on a lot of the more ah more sort of dynamic songs.
00:42:59
Speaker
But it's a movement sequence memory rhythm on this which ah which is a kind of that's all metal rhythm box which I found amongst guitar pedals in a you know gorgeous guitar shop in Doncaster. Didn't pay very much for it.
00:43:13
Speaker
Anyway, ah quite I quite like that one, amongst many others. Loving what you do. Keep on doing it. And ta-ra. Elston comes alive. Elston comes alive. It's nice to hear him, isn't it?
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, lovely. ah So thank you very much for that, Mark. Going back to what you said about ah recording it in Dick's Kitchen. Now, we did record it and in our mum and dad's house, but we actually wrote the song in Dick's Kitchen.
00:43:38
Speaker
I don't know why, but I've got a a so very strong memory of us on a hot summer's day, setting up all our gear in Dick's Kitchen and just faffing around and writing some songs. And Albert was there.
00:43:50
Speaker
I mean, Mark was playing the keyboards, but Albert was there as well. It does sound like something that you would write on a hot summer's day, perhaps. yeah i don't i don't in I don't know what any of the lyrics about Mark.
00:44:03
Speaker
Are they Jim's? They possibly are, I think. a Maybe some of it's mine, but we'll have to ask Jim what what it's about. But there's some football stuff in there.
00:44:15
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Yeah, anthems and things and surgery being the answer or alcohol being the answer. I don't know. I didn't really like it that much at the time, that song, but maybe it's the sort of song you need to be in the right mood for.
00:44:30
Speaker
Yeah. I've always quite liked it. I liked what Mark was saying about the Chigley kind of guitar part. I know what he's saying. I remember reading something where Lou Reed was talking about Sterling Morrison's guitar parts being like clockwork.
00:44:47
Speaker
And I think, i mean, im yeah know I'm nowhere near that, but I think I was going for that sort of thing. it's it's ah It's quite a pleasing little guitar bit to just play because it's very simple and quite intricate.
00:44:59
Speaker
Yeah. It's nice. That could potentially end up on the next best of compilation. i think, what do you think? I'd be quite happy for for that to go on there because it's it's a different side of Johnny Domino.
00:45:14
Speaker
It's away from the snark and away from the raised eyebrows. No, it's the more kind of like everybody hates us kind of side of Johnny Domino. I don't think it's quite that. mean, we've recorded a lot more songs that were very much...
00:45:28
Speaker
oh, everybody hates us and we're not going to get anywhere and all that kind of... We did a lot more overt, like self-pity, but that was... I think that's nice. It's nice. doesn't mention self-pity in the lyric. It does mention self-pity. I'm just going to say that there.
00:45:43
Speaker
and Okay. But yeah, that's The Retreat by John O'Reilly. Thank you to Mark for sending his... his ah isn't his
00:45:53
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Thank you to Mark. What did he send us? Oh, dear. His... um Language. show His language. so Thanks to Mark for sending his
00:46:08
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Thanks to Mark for sending his his language.
00:46:15
Speaker
Thanks, Mark, for sending his input. Very much appreciated. we do appreciate it. We do. And nice to hear about ah his experience, really, yeah of of being in the band. I thought he brought a different aspect to the band. He's very much liked to downplay what he brought into the band. I think he brought a lot into the band.
00:46:33
Speaker
He added a sense of maturity and perhaps distance and something kind of a bit more kind of open, I think, than perhaps what we we were doing.
00:46:44
Speaker
So good on you, Mark. Yeah, a bit more front-facing. Yeah. As opposed to our little kind of tribe. Having you out your arse. Yeah, yeah. um So we at the end?
00:46:57
Speaker
I think we are at the end.
Reflections on Creativity & Audience Participation
00:46:59
Speaker
Thank you very much for listening to this episode of the This Are Johnny Domino podcast. If you are enjoying the podcast, then please- What should you do? But stop, stop, stop, because I've got another bit.
00:47:12
Speaker
Yay. yay Yay! Excellent. this where I'd like to bring to your attention the fact that at the moment of recording, it's a nice time of year. m It's rather beautiful out there at times.
00:47:26
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And there are nice evenings occasionally where you get to experience the golden hour and that beautiful light that you get when the sun's going down. And I've got a song that I would like you to listen to when you sat there and the sun is going down.
00:47:42
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is a track by the artist called Sol, and I'm going to try and pronounce this, Sol Ho-O-P-I-E. And that's not how it's spelled. It's spelled S-O-L-H-O-O-P-I-E.
00:47:58
Speaker
He was born in 1903 and was a native Hawaiian lap steel guitarist, one of the greatest lap steel guitarists, apparently. And this is a short song about the joy of sitting under a tropical moon Very, very much on your own, idly dreaming, waiting for someone to turn up could be the object of your affection.
00:48:22
Speaker
It's in praise of lazing about and perhaps lends to the realisation that the anticipation of someone turning up is sometimes better than them actually turning in up. and And it's a song called Under a Tropical Moon.
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah, listen to that as the sun is going down. Excellent. Yeah, so we'll do. Just before we sign off, just a reminder, we we talk about, we need to get a new phrase for engagement opportunity because I'm hating hearing it all the time. Engagement opportunity.
00:49:21
Speaker
That just ah doesn't mean anything. it's not ah It's not a translation or anything. Anyway. I'll come up with another one. I'll work on it. And, you know, the Bold Positive campaign as well. I've got those things to work on. Okay. Right, go. Well, we have opportunities for you to get involved with the podcast.
00:49:37
Speaker
We have the longstanding The Eternal Halls of the 4-Track Gods, where if you've got early recordings that were either recorded on a 4-Track or in a studio or anywhere – anything that you did in your early days or that you're doing currently, please send it to us. We will talk about it.
00:49:54
Speaker
Especially if it's like poorly recorded, but even if it's really well recorded like George's stuff. Yeah. and We have the controversial, apparently, product placement opportunity for you to send us a song, which is a song which is in praise of something that you use or buy or admire. Endorse.
00:50:13
Speaker
Endorse. Yeah. in your in your everyday life. Please send us a song about that. And then we also have the interpolation. no The interpolation opportunity where if you have the words for a song, then you could write some music for it or write some completely different music for it and then send us that version or a mashup of anything.
00:50:37
Speaker
yeah We're just happy to hear from people. Yeah, and poems and pictures and... gifts of any kind whatever you whatever you want to send us that would be nice yeah so yeah get in touch and we'll be back in a few weeks time non-specific non-specific few weeks time with another this our johnny domino podcast thank you very much