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AMEC Prep: What to Expect from AMEC 2021
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This episode is all about the big event, our Annual Medical Education Conference! We discuss a few sessions and events we think you won't want to miss. Shameless plug: The Lounge will be LIVE...so come join the discussion. #TheLoungexAMEC
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AMEC Conference Plans and Opportunities
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This weekend, the annual medical education conference has been the cornerstone event of the SNMA. Last year, we held our first virtual AMEC with more than 1,500 participants.
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This year, we plan to bring you more engaging workshops, plenary sessions, social and networking opportunities to meet one-on-one with your peers and attend the interactive exhibit fair with pre-med and professional representatives from across the medical education continuum.
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With tracks for medical students, pre-medical students, and fourth years and beyond, you don't want to miss this year's conference. Visit the AMEC page on SNMA.org for more information.
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Welcome to SNMA Presents the Lounge and our AMEC preview. Whether you're in the student lounge, doctor's lounge, or you're just lounging around at home, get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversations on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of healthcare.
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It's me again, student Dr. Isabella and AMEC is about to be poppin' and that's the one word I can use to describe it. It is going to be a weekend filled with fellowship and community as we as Black
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future physicians, current physicians, pre-med students come together and really get to learn from one another and really experience what it means to be black and in this field and hopefully help to uplift each other as we go through this panty, whatever you want to call it, towards the ending stages before we start getting vaccinated. So yeah, I think AMIC is going to be popping and just a great experience.
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It's your boy student, Dr. Aldwin. And AMEC is about to be Liddy LeGang. And it's about to be my fourth or fifth AMEC. And, you know, of course, being that it's the virtual space, I am a little disappointed, but I'm certainly excited about all the events that are planned. It's a great gathering place to connect with medical students, pre-med students, to be inspired and inspired to educate and educate, to enlighten ourselves and enlighten others. And just be in an atmosphere where you feel love, you feel just
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supported. Like, I'm just thinking back to even last year where it was just so many events. I know it just felt like how was when it was in the real space where I didn't know what what seminars to go to because there's so many opportunities to really learn and be involved in something great. So I'm really excited. It's going to be a dope, dope, dope, dope weekend. I'm going to be in Atlanta. So I'm going to try to figure out how to do both things, you know, being on a promenade and actually attending AMEC. But yeah, let's let's get it.
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What's up, everyone. This is student Dr. Erica Dingle again. I am attending my first AMEC this year, so I'm excited. I mean, all we've been, you a veteran out here. So I'm looking forward to a lot of the sessions.
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I am happy that they continued with it being virtual for this year since we are in a panty raid. Um, still amidst the panty raid, although, you know, vaccinated, I'm, I'm waiting for number two to come around, but I just, I feel so much safer having it done this way. And I'm just looking forward to it. Like Isabella said fellowship blackness and just learning from a conglomerate of individuals that are
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Just the bomb the bomb calm so let's get into it already. Yes, ma'am. I need to hear you already because i'm high.
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So it's everyone's favorite part
Running Patient Lists for Preclinical Students
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of the show. It's time to run the list, right? So for our preclinical students, you guys need to get familiar with this. Running the patient list on the wards is to
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address the pressing matters of the day, um, on the wards for the entire team. And in this segment of the show, we're gonna discuss some of the recent events that have affected our communities and the populations we serve in medicine. Um, so there are several things we gonna get into today, right, y'all? Yes, ma'am. Yeah! A list in itself and...
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Yeah, we just got to prepare everyone for AMEC, right? So this is y'all preview episode. Tune in.
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Before we get into the preview, I do want to read something that was sent in.
Dr. Cori's Suspension and Racism in Medicine
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Remember our last episode, we talked about two physicians that had experienced discrimination at their respective institutions, specifically Dr. Cori, and we are thankful for you sending in a letter to us. I'm going to read the letter and then we could chat it up about that, okay? Sounds good.
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Thank you, Dr. Corey. We love you, by the way. Thanks for taking the time to show love and for the support and for support of the podcast and letting the world know of your thoughts and experiences regarding this, because I think this letter is certainly going to enlighten us about how we move forward and how the obstacles she's been challenged with has changed her life and how it could possibly change ours too. Absolutely.
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So just for a little insight again, Dr. Corey was suspended without due process within nine hours of moderating a discussion on bias and racism in medicine with her small group class. Despite incredible public support in the form of petitions, public and private letters, and the support from her own students, she was ultimately fired. So Dr. Corey's message.
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Black women in medicine stand on the shoulders of black women physicians who have brought care to their patients since the 1800s. Let us remember our collective history. Recall the hardships and triumphs of our foremothers. Dr. Rebecca Crumpler, who dedicated her career to the treatment of formerly enslaved people, wrote a medical text in the 1880s that has been digitally archived and can still be read today.
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Dr. Myra Logan performed open heart surgery in the 1940s. Dr. Alexa Irene Kennedy became a neurosurgeon in the 1970s. Dr. Patricia Bath created a cataract surgery device in the 1980s. They knew hardship and prejudice and still manifested into women of renown.
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These and many more women greatly contributed to medicine through their innovation, writing, and advocacy. Black, brown, and indigenous providers have unique experiences that we bring to medicine.
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We represent the stories of our ancestors and our communities. Knowing our history, reimagine what medicine would achieve had our collective dreams been allowed to flourish. This is what I'm advocating for.
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a healthcare system our patients can trust, a healthcare system that equitably respects the contributions of black, brown, and indigenous providers. I came forward publicly, so I was no longer complicit with my own trauma.
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Before sharing a thread on Twitter, I was silent about my suspension for 16 weeks. Since then, so many other physicians, black women in particular, have shared similar stories of being pushed out of their careers. We deserve to be at the table because not only did we help build the table, but it is our work that continues to hold the table up.
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By far, we commit to primary care as one of the most impactful ways in which we can care for our communities. That said, there is a collective movement advocating to remind people that we are staunchly entrenched in medicine and will no longer be pushed out of careers because of gendered racism.
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As an educator, I will continue to advocate for racial and gender equality so that the next generation of providers will not have to fight this particular fight. As we celebrate women's history this month, stay hopeful and encourage knowing that you belong in medicine. Your stories matter and will contribute to the tapestry started by Dr. Crumpler. Thank you so much, Dr. Corey, for your message.
JAMA Podcast Controversy on Racism
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That was beautifully said, Dr. Corey, thank you for that message. I don't even know what to say, because like, what's left? Deep, real deep. I mean, she hit every point, right? She hit the points of black women being essentially a huge cornerstone of cornerstone of medicine and not receiving the same benefits as our white counterparts, our male counterparts, right? And
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and how most of these times these abuses are happening in silence, right? She talked about how she was, you know, was a non-suspension for 16 weeks and didn't say a, didn't say one thing. Exactly. And that just reminds, yeah, it just reminds me of the way that we're people, black people, especially black women are constantly silenced and then we have to deal with that in our own way and still
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push forward to encourage other people who are coming behind us to follow suit and to stand true to who they are. And so honestly, all I can really say is thank you, Dr. Corey, for that letter that was beautifully written and thank you for sharing this insight on our platform. I think it was really great. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
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And just like we have good news, we always have something crazy to take us right back. Right. Right back to it. So all in, let's get into this JAMA conversation because, you know, JAMA was on that, on that BS with their podcast. And I know you know more about this than I do and Isabella does it probably so.
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Talk about it. Gemma, we Gemma, how dare you guys? So I listen to this. So there was a podcast that recently, well, not recently, but last month came out and in the podcast, they discuss institutionalized racism and systemic racism. And the host essentially said that he was not racist and that racism isn't real, that we essentially need to remove the word out of the dictionary and we need to target
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the injustice in our system in a different way, essentially. And so there was a huge outcry in regards to that, basically stating that how can you say that you're not racist, right? When oftentimes when people say that, when you're called a racist, there has to be a reasoning behind it.
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And the guy even enlightened us in the podcast episode saying many people have called them racist. So, sir, you are obviously doing something over there that you're not acknowledging. You know what I'm saying?
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And even I talked to one of our informers, she actually worked with the guy that was being interviewed and she talked about how he denounced creating more opportunities for black residents and black medical students. Isn't that wild? Because they were working on a resolution and things of that nature.
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So it's crazy how these same people who are talking about systemic racism or racism being an issue or not an issue on both sides of the fence regarding the interviewer and the interviewee, they are implicit in the same racism and they fail to acknowledge it.
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It's just it's just so crazy to me. You can stand there and it's so much cap going on. Like so many of these providers, these people in the medical world, they put out so much cap and they think that we're dumb enough to just believe them. Like your actions are proof of the pudding in the pudding. You know what I'm saying? We are watching your exact moves and behaviors. That's because you're talking all that lollipop. I'm just saying like that's real talk. And we got all these people accountable and watch their real moves, you know.
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It sounds like white guilt to me. It just sounds like white guilt. You know, I've seen this narrative way too many times. Someone says the truth about you are racist and you just either are complicit in it or you just fail to acknowledge it or you use the disguise of I'm colorblind. I've heard too many of the same narrative. Listen.
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The reality is that if it bothers you so much that you went out your way to go and make a whole podcast episode to say that you don't believe racism exists, you need to evaluate what even inspired you to go out your way to do that. Why? Please tell us. That's a fact.
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Like, people aren't understanding that. It's not just because I feel some type of way I feel like I'm being targeted. So let me just make up a situation or make up a something I believe to be fact to remove this responsibility for me. No, that's not how that works. Either you you do your part as an ally and you take accountability for the areas that you know that you on your own and could do something about this situation with racism in public health, racism in health care.
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Or you can I'd rather you keep silent than go out your way and make a podcast. Just saying nonsense. You know, I can't I can't be bothered. I really can't. Especially when we just had a whole racism is a public health issue come out with the American Medical Association. It just doesn't make any sense. Like, sir, you are a racist. Your team members are likely racists and y'all just need to do better. That's all we got. Is there a health issue? Right. Yep.
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Isabella, you said it best. White guilt, just call it what it is. That's what it comes down to.
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Well, even going to Norman, Norman, the Norman women's basketball team is a high school girls high school basketball team recently that the one of the announcers called the girls when they kneel during the Pledge of Allegiance. He called them you effing N word. You know, why are you why are you guys kneeling? And he didn't even know, he even acknowledged that he was being recorded while that was happening. And the girls actually shout out to them beautiful black girls. They actually went on to win the state championship in Oklahoma.
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By the way, but it's just crazy when they did the interview of him afterward. He was like, oh, I'm I had I was suffering from hyperglycemia. You know, I didn't know what I was saying. And I'm not a racist. How are you not a racist? But then you call a whole team of black, beautiful girls and women the N word like what possessed you to even like I don't sit there and watch, you know, women's basketball and call, you know, white woman or Asian woman, you know, whatever, insert you, whatever word, like what comes to your mind to even possess that thought?
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And it just goes to show how distraught our society is. I do not even know that high blood sugar could just make the n-word disappear. No, he's capping. It doesn't. It doesn't. He just adds the n-word into your head. Right. I must be missing something. And I think it was hypoglycemia that he suffered from. Right. But still, no, either way, that. A hypoglycemic. Low, medium blood sugar. I didn't know none of those types of things. It's all nonsense anyway, my bad.
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Either way, right? It don't matter. That doesn't make you call somebody an expletive. Like, get out of here with that. It makes no sense. You're racist, too. Obviously. Right. I would also like to add in one of our other audience members who just made this comment about, she's going back to the Gemma podcast, but she just wants to know, how do you have a conversation about race with two white men? That's just another way they fold it, too. Like, we're supposed to listen to two white people
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actually, the people that we deem to be the most privileged in our society, we're going to use them as the one as the pinnacles of racism and what that means. That's what they talk about diversity and inclusion nowadays.
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Anyway, they since deleted that tweet, JAMA, apparently. And they also, I guess, you know, like they always do, they something happens that no PR team could have seen before it got published. And then all of a sudden, now someone's taking accountability, deleting tweets and saying that, oh, we're sorry, did it. So I don't know. But they claim that, you know, that they they don't take accountability or they take accountability for the tweet and what was said. But
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I don't know. I think, like I said, most of these things just be performative. So. White people going white people. That's it. That's it.
Excitement and Reflections on AMEC
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So we have AMEC coming up. I know you guys are excited. I'm super excited. And I know we have veteran Aldwin who has had many of experiences with AMEC. So can you share with us?
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Yes ma'am. I know you're a veteran so like tell us what's your AMEC experience been? Why are you excited? Get us excited. I know you hype.
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Well, um, first off, I want to say I was just unmuted. I just, I was muted. So I just want to say before we move on, like JAMA in order for me to forgive you, I'm gonna need that 50 K on my loans. Otherwise, you know, we team attack me out. Like I'm not, that's it. That's it. Yeah. Bring the money. Then I bring my forgiveness, but I could talk about AMEC and whatnot.
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One of my most favorite experiences is just showing up. I'm one of those people when I show up to AMEC and I'm talking about not the virtual space, but the actual AMEC. When I show up, I'm one of those people that I just be moving around. I just be hopping into different sessions and I might just be walking down
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on the block, then next thing you know, I'm taking the train somewhere, me and somebody and then coming back and getting ready for the night festivity. So that's one of my favorite things is not know, especially if you're in a new city, not knowing what to expect or not knowing who you're going to see. Because there's people that I know known since I did my master's program at Morehouse School of Medicine, their residents and attending and all that. And you just come across some like, yo, what's good, bro? Oh, hey, how are you doing? Hey, what's up, are you looking extra fine? You're trying to get snatched up.
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Yeah, yeah, don't start yadim yadim is open to The Dark Lord KS in the future anyway
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So yeah, I think that's one of my favorite moments, just being able to just gather and just be in a special place. I remember when it was in Philly, you know, one of the regents paid for everybody to get a wine night, you know what I'm saying? So we pulled up and everybody just, we just talked, connected, and you know, just enjoyed each other, enjoyed the celebration of Black excellence. And I think it's so important to reinforce that. And especially in our medical schools, that's something that's oftentimes amiss. There's a lot of medical schools that don't have
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unfortunate SNMA chapters to get connected to these kind of conferences and these kind of opportunities. But that's why I'm appreciative of this podcast. And I'm appreciative of the work that we do in SNMA. Shout out to SNMA, the president, to BOD, to DeAndre, who's on here with us, to Skinda, who's here with us, like everybody that's doing the work, that's part of the work that's collaborating together and creating the greatness.
Osteopathic Medicine at AMEC
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Now,
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In regards, sorry, I'm Long Wednesday, but in regards to my favorite events that's happening, obviously, I know that I am the Osteopathic Committee co-chair, so we have an Osteopathic Banquet on Saturday at 8pm. We have the biggest sister of Diana Ross, Dr. Barbara Lee Ross, who was the first African-American Dean for a medical school in America.
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And she's a trailblazer in many ways. It's 100th year since the first black deal graduated an osteopathic medical school, Dr. Metacristi in 1921. So we're celebrating that as well. And I can imagine what transpired for her during her being the only black medical student and the only black woman medical student at an institution, which was at PCOM in Philly.
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We also will be having Dr. Tyree Winters, who is the president of NOMA, which is National Osteopathic Medical Association, and then also Dr. Ashley Roxanne, who is the youngest graduate of an osteopathic medical school, black graduate, by the way. So we're trying to have some trailblazers in there. We're going to talk about their own particular experiences and have a question Q&A session after that. Another one of my favorite events I want to check out is Mind Over Matter by RMN.
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And it is a group of black physicians and they're going to be talking about black men, mental health, and how they've created coping mechanisms and how their stories have highlighted the challenges that they face and how they've persevered.
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Many of them are very accomplished. And, you know, I really look forward to that. I've seen them on social media killing the game and all that. And then my third event is physician advocacy with Dr. Cameron Webb, who is former national president of S&M, recently ran for Congress and is now on the Biden Coronavirus Task Force. So I'm really looking forward to that because, yeah, I know, man, about that law, you know what I'm saying? I get that law degree. Call me D.O.J.D. You know what I'm saying? You feeling me soon enough?
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So that's some of my events, but how about
Sessions on Racism and Public Health
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y'all? What y'all on? What y'all on? What y'all on? Yeah, I'm actually really excited for two events. So one being, of course, on Saturday, the racism is a public health crisis form that's going to happen with AMA. I think that's really timely, especially we just finished talking about this nonsensical JAMA situation. So I think that this will be super informative for maybe those who were involved or saw what JAMA said, and maybe they can either, you know,
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stand corrected if that's also what their thoughts were or, of course, be further informed about why racism is actually a public health issue and really get into the nitty-gritty of that. So I'm really looking forward to that. I actually just now see that there's like this other event that I think is going to be really fun. It's happening still on Saturday, and it's the Flip the Script merging media and medicine event with Dr. Jennifer Caudill.
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cool because like I love her like I've been following her on Instagram for the longest time and I really look at her like as an inspiration for like where I hope to be like you know as a physician and also a media mogul so I'm just hoping that you know she's gonna give a lot of insight into like how she's carved a path for herself in that field because you know that's something I'm interested in doing in the future so I'm really looking forward to those two events and hopefully you guys will have a chance to you know be there as well to our listeners.
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So Isabella, like I am also excited about that media event with Dr. Cordell, um, is similar to you. I also want to go into like some sort of medical media, something I don't know yet, but we're going to figure that out. Um, but there are two events that I really want to attend. So one is the IMG to residency because you know, I'm a Caribbean medical student and there's just,
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There's a lack of resources for us. And I feel like this can kind of help us with facilitating and navigating that field and just understanding what actions we can take as we move forward, as we become IMGs. And then second, the event is called When Your Greatest Obstacle Becomes Yourself, understanding and overcoming impostor syndrome, y'all. I don't know about y'all, but
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I have dealt with imposter syndrome this entire medical journey. Some days I'm up, all the way up, and I'm up, and I'm up. And then the next day I'm just like, ugh. So it's just important for us to realize that we're here. We all made it to med school. We are not frauds. And I think this session will really help with that. So I'm looking forward to that.
SNMA Lounge and Networking at AMEC
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And then, you know, we have our own events, right, y'all? Yeah. Our, um, Olin, you want to talk about it? No, you don't want to talk about it? Oh my gosh. Okay, it's about we want to talk about it.
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We can't, we can't stop without talking about our money. That's supposed to be the top, right? That's crucial. Go ahead, Aldwin. Oh, sorry, Eric. It's all right. It's all right. We could once he dangles come into the rescue. No, I got y'all. I got y'all. All right. So.
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the event.
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It's okay. I got y'all. So we have two events coming up. Our Friday event is our SNMA Presents the Lounge VIP event where we will get to chop it up with you. Like literally, we want to meet you guys. We've been on radio, on the podcast, and we just want you guys to see us. We want to interact with you through the app that will be used for
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We want you to interact with us and we are just excited to meet with y'all. And then we have another event. It's our post AMEC event on Sunday just to hear about your experiences. So that's what we have going on. We want y'all to make sure you're there, be there, be square. And that's it. Right.
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I think that's gonna be really cool just because like right like we're usually pre-recorded usually you guys are just hearing what we've said after the fact but to be able to have a real dialogue I think will be really special and right yeah get connected with us what we're about like what we what this podcast really means and what the platform stands for and you know how you guys can get further connected with us and then be a part of the conversation so
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definitely don't fold, come out to those two events. That'll really be a good way to get to know us and for us to get to know you guys. Please come out. Yeah, I'm excited as well.
Encouragement and Organizers' Dedication
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Yeah, we definitely are real hyped about this. It's going to be jam-packed sessions and you'll have the opportunity to really share your piece and really interact with us and be engaged in a different way, as Isabella mentioned.
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Now it's actually active. So y'all might actually be on the stage. We're going to make this this seem like clubhouse. We're getting that. Y'all get us and we're going to, you know, make make the world turn. So be there or be square. Not to be cliche, but this honestly, you feel me?
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Well, that's The Lounge's AMEC preview. Thanks so much for joining us for this episode of The Lounge. We look forward to seeing you at AMEC. Pull up! Let us know your thoughts about the discussions we had today by emailing us at podcast at SNMA.org.
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Be sure to follow the SNMA on all social media platforms to stay up to date on upcoming events. So I am really excited. Again, this is my first AMEC.
00:28:37
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And again, so many events that I feel like all of us can really benefit from. The team that put together the AMEC Conference worked so hard and we just want to support. I think there's like over a thousand people already registered. So if you are not registered, you need to be there. Also, come join the podcast team. We are looking for members to join us as our
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Dedicated and beloved members are heading to residency. So come join us. We would love to get to know you and work with you. Thank y'all.