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All Roads Lead to AMEC
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All roads lead to AMEC this April! Join our RTL hosts as they not only discuss everything from Match Day/SOAP process, Kanye’s social media crash out, Black celebrity engagements and more, but also give you all some last minute pointers on how to prep for AMEC coming up in a few short weeks!
Be sure to join The Lounge podcast at AMEC this April for the exciting events that we'll be hosting! We look forward to a fun-filled weekend, and cannot wait to see you all there!
To share your thoughts on our discussions or if you have any questions to ask our hosts, email podcast@snma.org for a chance to be featured on the show!
Disclaimer: The opinions and views expressed on our podcast do not reflect the official stance of the Student National Medical Association.
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Introduction and AMAC Announcement
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The views expressed on this podcast represent only those of the hosts and do not represent the views of the Student National Medical Association. AMAC is only a few weeks away. Be sure to join SNMA Presents, the lounge podcast in St. Louis as we pop some balloons, run the list live and watch SNMA members shine in the spotlight as they show us their talents.
00:00:19
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Not sure what we mean? Well, come out and hang with the lounge and we're sure you'll have all your questions answered. Can't wait to see all of you all there. Now, let's start the show.
Hosts Introductions and AMEC Excitement
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You know what time it is? What time it is? Welcome to SNMA Presents The Lounge. Whether in the student lounge, doctor lounge, or lounging around at home,
00:00:59
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Get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversations on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of healthcare. I am...
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ah Aldwin Sumater. And it's time for us to start getting our fits together for AMEC because, you know, we got to be proper.
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We got to be fly. We got to be cute. We got to find our one. We got to find our two, our three, our four, and even more if you enter that. But otherwise, I want to say we got to make sure everyone is here looking forward to what AMEC this year holds.
00:01:37
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But first off, I want to ask y'all, what are you most looking forward to at AMEC this year? I'll go first, and I'll say every year I'm always looking for meeting our fans, the audience, new people, new connections, having opportunity to just get inspired. Now being on the other side, being a resident, and now seeing ah the ushering of the new generation of physicians coming in and glowing. like One of my favorite parts is seeing people, all ah the new people coming in and taking that photo and doing a video and in a white coat. I'm like, man, it's a beautiful thing to know that we're not going to be extinct. No matter what's happening politically, black people will not be extinct in any atmosphere infrastructure, but especially in medicine, we're keeping this atmosphere contained to us and allowing usher in greatness and excellence. So I'm going to let whoever wants to go next, what are you most looking forward to at AMAC in the next couple of weeks?
Significance of AMEC and Networking Opportunities
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Preach, Dr. Aldwin. I'll go next. Hey, hey everybody. I'm student Dr. Samiza. I'm four from Drexel. um I guess for me, I have never been to St. Louis before, so I'm very excited.
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I'm one of my best friends from med school is from there. So, you know, I'm ready to go down to the loop and see y'all. What about you, Jared? ah That was going to my answer. So I'm glad you got it out because I'm i'm very excited about St. Louis as well.
00:02:56
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How y'all doing, everybody? It's your boy, aspiring student, Dr. Jared Jeffrey. And this year for AMEC, I got to say, it's the same thing I'm always excited about.
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The atmosphere, the vibe. There is no other place quite like it. The energy is top-notch. The people you meet are top-notch.
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As Dr. Aldwin said, the fits better be top-notch. And, you know, it's just a great, inspiring weekend. I come out of AMAC every year feeling extremely rejuvenated, enthusiastic about medicine as a field in general.
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And i'm just ready to, you know, get out there, get that same, get poured into that same way, and then leave ready to make some moves. Period. Period. You feel me? Love that. Love that. Love that.
00:03:43
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Hello, everyone. This is student Dr. Isabella. um What a surprise! have Isabella here! Yeah, I know. Usually it's a three-person show. I'll run the list. I'll be, hey, hey, hey, what am I doing here?
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i must the i must have clicked on the wrong link today. But, um you know, I'm going to be a little bit more of ah um a background character. I won't be, you know, I'll be letting these three leave the conversation. But it is match month, so, you know, had to pop out.
00:04:05
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ah had to come forward. Okay? Period. So... But yeah, yeah. Good to see everyone again and hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
00:04:18
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You got to answer the question too? Where you going? Oh, that's so true. i'm not going to hold you. It don't matter. It don't matter. That's crazy. You're right. I said, let me pop in and pop out. Let me, okay, let's backtrack a little bit. So what am I looking forward to in AMEC this year? So definitely I am really excited actually about being a graduating medical student this year and getting to experience what that looks like. Cause they usually have like the little,
00:04:43
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graduation ceremony with the stoles and you walk down or something like that it's like it's always cute and i i love seeing the graduating students do that each year so just to know that oh now it's it's my time to shine okay period so let me go ahead and like do my thing so i'm looking forward to that i'm also just looking forward to our events as well um because i think we have some really cool events this year so it'll be nice to just like engage with our listeners and you know people who are uh fans of the podcast and just kind of do our thing as usual like we do every year, and people who are tuned in to us and know us know that we come correct every year Amex. So, yeah. Every time. That's a Fendi. Yep.
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And come on, class of 2025. 2025. 2025. I like the way that
Introduction of 'The List' Segment
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sounds. I like the way that sounds. Speaking of coming correct, it's time to come correct with everybody's favorite segment of the show the list.
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For our preclinical students, running the patient list on the awards allows the team to address pressing matters of the day. In this segment of the show, we'll be discussing some recent events in medicine and beyond affecting our communities as well as the populations we serve.
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So let's get right up into y'all. What we got?
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Well, I mean, the first topic today we're going to talk about is, unfortunately, a Brown University physician um was detained by ICE. ah Dr.
Dr. Rasha Allawi's Detainment and Immigration Discussion
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Rasha Allawi, an assistant professor at Brown University Medical School, was deported to Lebanon despite holding a valid visa.
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and a federal court ordered temporarily blocking her removal. ah This has ignited numerous amounts of debates across the country, especially regarding immigration and legal rights.
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And the continued outrage is a reflection of what's going on our political system. People are being detained at school systems and the hospitals. And essentially, even you know where in my position, we have a lot of a lot of my patients that are scared to come to the hospital because they think that ICE is going to come and take them. We have lot of patients from Guatemala,
00:06:43
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Honduras, Mexico, Haiti, Senegal, and things of that nature. And so it's a lot going on and it shows that there's no, uh, there's no, uh, stoppage in regards to detainment of people, regardless of where you are along the socioeconomic status.
00:06:58
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If they feel that you are here illegally, although you have legal status, which makes no sense, they'll still find a way to take you out, essentially. Even for a physician who's done tremendous things at Brown University, ah this is still becoming occurrence.
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So um with that being said, ah what do you guys think about the current state of affairs with our administration? like How do we protect people in these positions that are being detained? ah what what are What is our role in this?
00:07:27
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Yeah, I mean, I'll speak just a little bit about that. I mean, I think I am tired of living in unprecedented times. um I think that this is ah like this is maybe the first example that I've seen that people have like legal documentation, meaning that they have a visa and a stay here and they have all of that that documentation and it's being revoked like basically live, like right there as they're standing there on the street. Like it just, I think is a very scary moment. Um, and it makes you feel as though your place, especially if you're like a naturalized citizen or you know, you're getting towards that path, they can be taken away at any point. So and I don't think it's a really scary precedent to set.
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Um, and i I don't know where exactly it's going to end. um but it, This is a woman who made significant contributions to her community and therefore should be you know a part of the quote unquote safe zone. Right.
00:08:29
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So seeing that happen to her was even scarier than you know anything else that I've seen. so
00:08:38
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But this is my my two cents though. um it's been ah Great answer Samisa As far as ah yeah your question Dr. Aldman How can we protect ourselves I really see a way to protect ourselves to be honest um It's one of those Things where like ah This seems to me like Unchecked federal power kind of like, you know, running rampant, you know, like like people don't have the the time or like the wherewithal to even be able to respond to executive orders that come so often and so brazenly that
00:09:16
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You know, even someone that does have legal status, it becomes one of those things. Well, can you prove it? Because according to what we... That's not what we have. Did you happen to bring your visa with you to work today?
00:09:29
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nah? So we're not letting you go home to get it. You know what I'm saying? And it's it's one of those things where it's like like... I would hate to even try to say, like, stay ready so you don't got to get ready because you don't even know that you need to be ready for such, like Samisa said, unprecedented...
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Wildness in my opinion You know um um ah the The best we could do is try to advocate for one another You know what i'm saying In this situation I think that someone Who does have legal status Someone who is a citizen May need to you know Someone that they're not after essentially May need to you know extend that hand Extend that help and try to you know do whatever they can to at least like have her be heard out. You know what i'm saying? Because this just sounds like a situation where someone who did their due diligence didn't get the opportunity to speak.
Healthcare Advocacy and Diversity Commitment
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but Izzy, what you got to say about this? Cause she's at Brown university. This might've been a physician you would be working with in the ED. No, and I mean, to be honest, you know, what's your thoughts on this?
00:10:32
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Yeah, I was definitely thinking about that. I like, wow, I just matched at this university. So it's crazy that this happened. You can't say it so casually. but Right, I know, right? Oh, y'all to bounce off the wall? Heard you. Okay, you know, I'm trying to keep it humble for the podcast. I just said, why?
00:10:52
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I feel like as a pod, we've been growing with you for five years. You got on a pod as an M1. And now you're just going to casually drop where you matched in conversation. That's crazy. It just feels like a slap in the face to me personally.
00:11:04
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That's actually so crazy that you said it like that because I very much did come on to this podcast as a first-year med student. And I'm literally now speaking on the same podcast as a recently emergency medicine matched resident at Brown University. Yes.
00:11:19
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It's crazy, right? It's really crazy when say it like that. oh yeah me So um this is disheartening to see and hear this kind of news. I'm hoping that, you know, Brown has been reassuring from my standpoint as they, during the recruitment process and the interview process that they very much remain committed to DEI and supporting an inclusive environment.
00:11:40
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I do think that um this situation happening was, not necessarily related to Brown, but related to the fact that this was a Brown physician who happened to be in this, in this situation. I'm sure that Brown, if they knew about it would have like fought for her and like not have tolerated this.
00:11:57
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Um, so it's just this, it's really unfortunate. And so, I mean, um I think as healthcare care professionals, it is our job to speak up and advocate for what's right. And even though we're not necessarily politicians, we still do operate in a space where politics affects us.
00:12:14
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So I think that like us talking about it right now and saying, hey, this is kind of crazy. um This is a physician who has done so much work in her field and has contributed to this society. And even and she's a visa holder, right? So it's like how can you deport someone somebody who's a visa holder? It just doesn't make any sense.
00:12:29
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So- As we kind of talk about it, um I'm just hopeful that we can remain steadfast in our convictions to not support this kind of behavior and, you know, move forward, just move forward in the best way that we can. And once again, shout out to Brown because- I know what they stand for. And um it's just unfortunate that a physician who works there had to actually go through this situation.
00:12:55
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So, yeah. yeah Isabella, I think you bring up a good point. We act as patient advocates, right? And now we need to be advocates in our community.
Match Day Insights and Challenges
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Yeah. um But speaking of patient advocates, I think i think and we would be remiss If we did not talk about what happened about almost a week ago. About a week ago!
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About a week ago. About a week ago. Super, duper serious happened. yeah Me and Isabella, you know, and clink her. Clink, clink! You know, were...
00:13:30
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Given the illustrious, yeah, I like that word, the illustrious honor of obtaining jobs in this medical profession, um yeah aka known as Match Day. That happened on March 21st this year. And as you guys know, it's a pivotal milestone for medical students as they discover where they're going to train for residency. So Match Week itself can be very you know stressful and it's a process that's guided by the National Resident Matching Program, aka NRMP algorithm.
00:14:00
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And students are paired with programs based on their mutual preferences. So despite the excitement, though, me and Isabella, we had a great time and, you know, our match day went well, but there are other people and, you know, our other colleagues that didn't necessarily have that same experience. And, you know, something called the Supplemental Offer and Acceptance Program or the SOAP program can offer a second chance for those people that go unmatched um and address any unfilled spots in the in the country.
00:14:28
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um yeah This year, actually, about 2,500, specifically 2,521 positions were unfilled after the matching algorithm was processed and were placed in SOAP.
00:14:40
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um And, you know, I think for me, I just want to talk about a little bit how, especially as a first gen medical student, I definitely literally didn't even know what the word SOAP meant until after I got to medical school.
00:14:53
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so um which I think is very scary. Everybody's like, oh, go be a doctor. You're going to have a job. You know, a recession free field. And then you get to medical school and they're like, actually, you can finish this and be a doctor and be jobless.
00:15:08
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So um just ahead, Alderman. No, saying me, like that happened to me, but was going to let finish. Exactly. Right. Like it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's not an uncommon experience. And I think this year also just highlighted, there's a growing concern, right? We have all of these unfilled spots yet in practice. And Alden can speak to this more. There's actual physician shortages.
00:15:32
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And you see it when you're doing your clinical rotations, people are stretched to their limits. And yet we're not letting people that have the full training to be medical doctors actually be employed.
00:15:43
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i am And I think overall, the gap underscores increasing demand um for health care professionals as people grow and age in our countries and communities. um I think we really need to address this imbalance because it's critical to the future of the field, right?
00:15:59
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um Overall, my question for you guys is, given that we have all these unfilled spots, we have trained people, how do you think moving forward we can address the shortage of physicians?
00:16:12
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um And, you know, when, what are we going to do with all these people that want to help but aren't necessarily given the opportunity?
00:16:21
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We gotta to put them pause on Congress. We gotta to let them know. Because obviously, you know medicine is a very capitalistic field. I think that plays a certain role. They don't want too many do they don't want too many ah cooks in the kitchen. You know what mean? and if we increase the number of physicians, that also can affect supply and demand.
00:16:40
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That could affect reimbursement. That could affect a lot of particulates when we talk about, like we have the AMA who has voted against increasing residencies. American Medical Association has voted against increasing residency spots. Just and what I think for that particular reason. But when you have people have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars here in America and abroad to go get into medical school and hopefully foresee a future medicine, like you said, Samisa, you go into medical school your first year. They're not telling you, oh yeah yeah, one y'all might.
00:17:09
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One in four or five of you may not match and we'll have to soak. They're not telling you any of that. They're telling you, yeah, come into medical school, spend your 60, 70 K a year. We'll run it up and then we'll see what happens. You know what I mean? Rainbows and butterflies.
00:17:24
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but yeah know it's It's a fact. And I remember going through this process, like, you know, um going through the match. Like I didn't have the support from my program. I'm going to keep it 100. I have to do everything myself being first gen.
00:17:38
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And then going through matching, matching at my 10th spot. I looked at the photo today too. i was like, bro, a lot of people, they post a photo and they like, I'm matching my 10th spot the first time. And I was crying that same day, but I had to fake. I couldn't grieve. You know what I mean? Or whatever the case. It's cool to have a job.
00:17:54
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But at the end of the day too, like you want to be in a space where you happy, you comforted. But then after that, couple of years later, last year, i had to soak. So I went through the other side ah of the spectrum where thought was only in a psychiatrist or whatever and things that nature.
00:18:06
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And that was very devastating to me, you know, because like you said, I'm a doctor, right? And it took me months, like literally took me months to get a a job, like ah a standard job because people were like, yo, he a physician, he graduated med school. Why would he want to be a case manager?
00:18:20
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Why would he... want to be ah working as a community health worker. But I couldn't get unrestricted license. I couldn't um literally spent months like sitting down like, bro, applying hundreds of jobs a day, bro, grinding and hustling.
00:18:34
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There was times I even went to a certain jobs, see if they would hire me. I went to a psychiatry office in Midtown Manhattan. I never forgot that. And it was like, we're going to give you an interview. They never called me, bro.
00:18:44
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You know what I'm saying? And I'm a whole doctor and people looking at me from my head like, yo, you a doctor, bro. You're doing your thing. But deep down, I felt inadequate. So imagine how many people go through this process. They go into medical school and they get out of it and they're like, yo, I'm matched. They don't match. They soap.
00:18:59
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They go through the soap and then they don't even get a position in the soap. You know i'm saying? And then now you've got to scramble, call programs. You've got to you know reach out to your contacts and everything like that. This is ridiculous.
00:19:10
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Nurses don't got to do it. Psychologists don't got to do it. You know i mean Like, the A's don't got to do it. The people that taking over our positions. So, what can we do? We got to advocate. That's one other thing. Okay. I mean, I... You know what I it. to another topic. Yeah, I was like, hold on. But now we sidestep it a little bit, right? We're not going to put ourselves against any advanced practice providers.
00:19:39
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It's facts, though. But I'm not... Yeah, so it's crazy. You know, when we when we talk about the match day, important to understand. Y'all got your jobs. Congrats, Mr. Mesa and Izzy. So proud y'all.
00:19:53
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But you you being a Mets student and becoming an intern is a whole different ballgame, man. Going through this two times. You realize like your responsibilities go way up. Some somebody's life is on your hand, man.
00:20:07
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You make one decision. They may have Redman syndrome. They might go into, you know, acute coronary crisis. They might go into something crazy that you you make one mistake. And it's like they all looking at you like, yo, you ordered that, bro. Like what's going on? Yeah. Oh, it was all me?
00:20:24
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It was me? right see You start pointing to the senior. no He said it. She said it like, ah, it's crazy. But the the fact and reality is that this is training you to become the independent physician that you always dreamed of. Every challenge you're goingnna face you're going to going face a lot of challenges.
00:20:42
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um And this is speaking to everybody else that's even listening on the pod. ah Becoming an intern, you're going to have a lot of responsibilities and obligations to your patients, but to yourself. You're have to take care of your mental health.
00:20:52
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and your physical health. And at points, you're going sacrifice your own personal time for others. But remember, everything that happens to you is temporary. Like it's not everlasting, right? This is building you up. It's going to build you down to build you back up.
00:21:06
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So every challenge you face is eventually going to be able to be a foundation for you as you move forward in your first you're going to gain confidence in ordering certain things by yourself and be able to go to patient rooms when maybe A patient has a metastatic melanoma and you're unfamiliar initially with the diagnosis, right?
00:21:23
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You're unfamiliar with how to navigate patient meetings, but eventually you find comfort. You learn about the disease processes and then you learn about navigating these meetings. And then eventually you feel like you can conquer some of these things and you're building these blocks over and over and over and you're gaining knowledge.
00:21:39
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And I think it's very important for you guys to say when you don't know something, talk to your seniors, ask a lot of questions, just like when you were in medical school, Get very familiar with your EMR system, whether it's Epic, Cerner, Paragon, and the like.
00:21:54
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And also find a, you know, find a way to collaborate with your other colleagues at your residency program. Like, for instance, you're going to be in EM. You're going to have homies in IM. going to be admitted to You're going to have to reach out to dermatology. going to have to reach out to plastic somebody.
00:22:10
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You know i'm saying? Cut they face. So make sure you make friends with these people. not that like for real Well, you know me. You know Social Butterfly. me i'm i'm I'm okay with talking to people. I will talk to you. Now, if you're rude, we've got to figure that out.
00:22:24
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and But I will talk to people. Yeah, I'll do what I have to do to survive. That's for sure. One thing about me. So that's why got to survive. and ah she but but but but da da but da da ah But I want to say, I want to shout out what Dumebi said in the chat, which is a big part of intern year is being comfortable, with being uncomfortable.
00:22:42
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I like that a lot because I do think that I think me and Simis are going go through a lot of uncomfortable moments because like this is our first day out here. We like we got this MD title, but it's like it's my first day out here. Like I'm still trying to figure out, you know, how to navigate the space, like what to do. And so I think that's like a really nice piece of advice as well, which is just like embracing a little bit of the discomfort and just kind of leaning into it. So that way we can come out.
00:23:04
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more comfortable and like you said like aldwin it just takes different reps and just like practice so yeah that's a fact that's a fendi literally i hope so every day y'all gonna do it y'all gonna see y'all gonna flourish like butterflies from day one july 1st to the next july 1st you're gonna see like damn i really know so much you think you're coming in I don't know anything, but you really have it in you. And every day you come in there with confidence and knowing that you're going to get better. Get 1% better every day.
00:23:34
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Whether it's reading on a patient, doing 10 questions, whatever the case may I think a good a good part of that is... um A good part of, you know, being a good intern, starting starting off well and, you know, having ah a fire start is definitely like the support system you have, right? And like you definitely like, you know, before you go in there, tap in with your mentor and make sure that you're getting like tips and, you know, like the same way we're having this conversation now, you have that conversation there because like, especially someone like, I believe, you know, you guys would have mentors in the actual specialty that you guys are going into, get special. Yeah.
00:24:06
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specific tips. And, you know, um this actually like jogs my memory on something that I saw on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
00:24:17
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There was one young lady on there that was trying to say that she believes mentorship is dead. And I was like... yeah Hot take. I thought it was an ice cold take.
00:24:28
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But had to I had to hear out all the way. I had to hear out all the way. Because... um um'm I'm listening or whatever, and she's basically saying that she thinks the black community specifically needs sponsorship rather than mentorship. So this this is when she perked my ears. I was like, okay, what you have my attention now, miss. You have my attention.
00:24:48
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So it's... So essentially what she was saying is like she breaks down the tool, right? She says that mentorship is like, you know, ah offering guidance, advice, or like emotional support. But sponsorship is like a more proactive approach where individuals will like advocate for their, where well they'll advocate for their underlings advancement. So let's say you have like a mentee or something like that. yeah They're going to try to put you in spaces.
00:25:13
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So they're going to try to actively have a hand you. your track as opposed to simply telling you what to do they're gonna put you in position to succeed and see what she's getting at i see what she's getting at right um because like like like in her scenario she was trying to say like you know in the entertainment space what's missing in mentorship for black people is like uh the access to an influential network or actionable career advancement tools you know i'm saying um
00:25:44
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But the corollary was was was presented that the abundance of informal mentorship reflects the community's strong culture of just mutual support. um And somebody suggested that bridging the gap between mentorship and sprint and sponsorship would be crucial for dismantling systematic barriers and fostering yeah equitable success.
00:26:05
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So with with that with that mouthful said, i want to know what you guys think. Sponsorship? Mentorship? Somewhere in between? Sponsorship is very important.
00:26:17
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The reason being, it's crazy you say that because I had a mentee. So I did a a pediatric rotation at institution and a Nashville prestigious institution. And, you know, um I did my thing, held it down. And he told me he was interviewing at this spot for a pediatric residency. And I ended up emailing them, um the chief residents, because I knew all of them and everything after my rotation.
00:26:39
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And I told him, i said I screenshot the email, like, bro, I sent it. I like, yo, They looking forward to meeting you and things that nature. Like they excited. And he was like, yo, thank you for sponsoring me. And then when he said that, i was like, damn, that's a sponsor. Like, I'm just thinking it's normal.
00:26:54
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But then like hearing you talk about it, I'm like, bro, that is really sponsoring. That is something that we don't do. It's like, oh yeah, you know, somebody trying to psych, they trying to do OB again or whatever the case may be.
00:27:05
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And it's like, oh yeah, ah I'll be here if you have questions. Nah, bro. Like, let's, connect me to the program director like connect me to people in the program so that they can open more doors and i think we got to facilitate that more people in positions especially these competitive fields derm ortho etc like y'all gotta put like hands on to these people and like email people don't just be exactly you're in a position to change someone's life and put me in the room right where i can succeed right yes yes samiza what do you think Yeah, I mean, I'm just going to say I'm personally the benefit of sponsorship, right? Like I had an away rotation that like literally i would not have gotten without the help of a sponsor. He literally used the words in the email.
00:27:48
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And was like, what do you mean you don't have one? I'm sponsoring you now. Let's go get it. Ooh. Period. Shout out to him. No. One of the realists. I don't know if I can talk about him on here, but yeah, I need to email him. He's super important. right like And it's like it's not even like I met this man for a long time, just told him once, like, hey, I'm interested in heat surgery. Let's do it.
00:28:11
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Right? So I think the difference that I see between mentorship and sponsorship is almost like words versus actions, right? Actions speak louder than words.
00:28:22
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Words are important. You need words to support and sustain you. But without the action, it it begins to fall flat, right? Like if somebody is like, yeah, I got you, I got you. And then they don't do anything behind that. I got you.
00:28:35
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Yep. They help you. Right. So I think the most apt thing, you know, that we said was that we need to bridge the gap between mentorship and sponsorship. Do the words of affirmation, do the things that make people feel good, but you need those acts of service. I'm an acts of service girly. So like period, you know, acts of service.
00:28:55
Speaker
Like you tell me all this. I love it. It's amazing. Thank you for calling me beautiful. what did you do to put money in my pocket? Right? Like that's a hundred percent. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, we talked about So we noise. It's just noise.
00:29:08
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noise We're not even going to take it there. We're not talking about relationships. This is a metaphor. It's metaphor. Oh, okay. It's a metaphor, but you see how it's so many different scenarios, right? You see how you can just take one conversation, you could pluck it and drop it another conversation. It's a metaphor, but metaphorically speaking, the bread or the money in my hand is residency. It's a way rotation. an internship, right? Like,
00:29:34
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That's what I'm looking for. So I think as a student, very difficult to ask for sponsorship. It's easy to ask for mentorship, but the sponsorship has to come from the person offering it to you for sure.
00:29:47
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I completely agree. in In power has to, well, not even in power, in the higher up position has to take it upon themselves to say, I'm going to lift this person up.
00:29:59
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ah for sure I like that. and Jared, I'm going to lift you up for med school. I'm waiting for you, bro.
00:30:06
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I'm going to actually you have a real conversation We had conversations had a real conversation off and and know yeah another because we yeah We need more we need more conversations before Before we get off the topic though before we gave before we get off the topic um And I guess y'all probably answered my question I was going ask y'all I think there's been a decrease in sponsorship Among black physicians But let's see this podcast is certainly not lacking it I mean, there is. We know there is, right? I mean, that's why we have lower numbers when it comes to people in medicine or just people who even get from, like, pre-med to eventual med student, right? Like, it's there's so many barriers that exist within that interim space.
00:30:47
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And so I do think it's because there's a lack of sponsorship. I think there's a lot of mentors, maybe even ah too many mentors, but not enough, like... Who's gonna actually put in that word for you? I actually like put you in the space. take Yeah, so surplus of mentors. Oh, I'm a mentor. I'm a mentor.
00:31:04
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Then when push comes to shove and I'm looking for who's gonna put me in the room nowhere to be found, right? So I do think that that speaks volumes and and I kind of agree with Bo from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I think that we need to address that We we definitely need to address that I watch, I'm more of a Potomac girly and I've gotten into Salt Lake City, but I'll try Beverly Hills. didn't, yeah. I'll try Beverly Hills. We gonna talk about Potomac. We gonna talk about it. Okay. Oh yeah, that's another. Shout out Maryland. Shout out Montgomery County. Yeah. Okay. Hey, rep it. Rep the M. Rep the M. Hey.
00:31:39
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There you go. But, you know, I think we'd be remiss if we don't mention someone who was, I think, was we could consider a mentor, sponsors, people within the entertainment space. um Miss Angie Stone, who, um God bless her soul, you know, passed away recently on March 1st, 2025.
00:31:56
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So this was a Grammy-nominated R&B singer-songwriter legend um who... was in a very tragic car accident in montgomery alabama um so you know my you know my my condolences go out to her family and her loved ones who had to go through such a devastating loss and she passed away at the to me the young age of 63 um And so, you know, just to kind of give a little bit about her career, I mean, she was the pioneer of female hip hop with the trio called The Sequence and flourished with solo hits like Wish I Didn't Miss You and No More Rain.
00:32:28
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Her soulful voice and heartfelt lyrics resonated with fans worldwide, which really made her a significant fit figure in the neo soul movement. um And so just to kind of honor her remarkable contributions, there was a public memorial service that was held on March 14th.
00:32:41
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at the Word of Faith Cathedral in Austell, Georgia, which really allowed fans to come in and pay their respects. Her children, Diamond and Michael, were there, and they really expressed a lot of gratitude. I actually think that there was other big, like, legends and artists that were in the room. I know you were speaking a little bit to that, Samisa, if you want to a little bit into that, because um I didn't really get to watch the funeral, but I know there things. Yeah,
00:33:02
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I saw a couple clips. I definitely saw Kiki Wyatt there. There were a lot of gospel um singers there. um I think a lot of them spoke to just, you know, her, her pioneering role in the neo soul industry. um Yeah. I think she's definitely one of the first, you know, female singers really get into that space and, you know, give it a name.
00:33:24
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Right. And I think they were able to honor her in such a beautiful way from what I saw. Yeah. And they just sang things like, you know, things like ah his eyes on the sparrow and like really tried to give her, we call it in the community, a proper homegoing, right? Yeah.
00:33:40
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um So I think it was a really beautiful ceremony that I saw. And i mean, I think in terms of how you know her death might have changed the industry or how did her funeral express you know her impact I remember, you know, as a kid, her being on 106 and Park and Wish I Didn't Miss You. Like, I heard it again for the first time because people were doing challenges and singing the song, but like, you acapella.
00:34:06
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And this girl sang it on TikTok. I'm blanking on her name right now, but i think I really got the true meaning of what this lady was saying. And and like, it's a far distant memory that I had as a kid, but like to bring it back and create new life to it, I think it was really beautiful. And I think it just showed that as you're going in your field and you're making your own you know space, like you never know how you're going to influence people. And I think I wish she would have gotten a little bit more of that, you know, when she was alive. But, you know, I hope her family sees that people really did appreciate her for sure.
00:34:41
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I think that's that's a fire way for like an artist to go out, having the opportunity to like you know let fans come in and pay their respects. it's it's That, to me, like as you were talking about it, I'm like envisioning, I'm like yo like, I could only imagine if my favorite artist was to tragically pass, you know yeah and I got to go to their actual homegoing service. like That sounds incredible.
00:35:05
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, ru rest in peace, Miss Angie Stone. We appreciate all of the contributions you've made to the industry. And yeah, and once again, our love goes out to Angie Stone and her family and loved ones.
00:35:21
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So, yeah. um and The and entertainment industry has been um having just a little bit go on. I actually saw the other day that... um Wendy Williams was in the news again. was, I don't know if you guys know, but like she was um institutionalized for a little bit, you know, for um psychiatric purposes. They had her inside. She was impatient and hey she has been recently deemed mentally competent.
00:35:49
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after passing a psych eval with wait for me now wait for me a perfect so i'm gonna stop playing with wendy because social media i'm playing with her social media was so don't play with it don't play with it don't play with it you know what i'm saying coming at people at the wrongest times of their lives, you know what i'm saying? talk Right. Oh, well, she talked about everybody.
00:36:10
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. you You don't come after somebody when they got something like that. When they die Right. When they're down. Right. um Yeah, yeah. So um she's like, you know, I think she's been under like court-ordered guardianship since somewhere like 2022 because there were concerns about her mental health, you know what saying?
00:36:27
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Yeah. According to my notes, the the diagnoses were primary progressive aphasia and frontal temporal dementia.
00:36:38
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And so, you know, despite these diagnoses, she managed to assert her mental competency and is actively contesting her conservatorship. She describes her current living situation in the memory care unit as suffocating and comparable to imprisonment.
00:36:55
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Wow. She's really been like, you know, going hard about her, you know, need to return back to being in charge of her own life. Right. And she said, like, and I quote, I deserve freedom, darling.
00:37:10
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Oh, the darling is getting Wendy. wasn't sure if you were going to do that justice, but yes. No, that was good. no and I to be trapped in.
00:37:23
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um Wendy is ah i'm sorry i don't meet to but we is a that she legend she's a legend. like if you talk about I don't want to call it gossip news, but if you talk about controversial news that happens in in you know public spaces, Wendy started that. and You have people now on YouTube, TikTok, doing just a rendition of what Wendy started. i mean like hate wendy love wendy she's still wendy you can't you can't put a stop to what she's done in the industry that's just my my take on it but yeah so ah she is and was the moment honey period report front tea do you think you know at this stage that she should be able to simply um gain regain her freedom like is a psych eval enough is there more that goes to the um
00:38:10
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the um the legal proceedings or like that whole process like could you enlighten me a little bit if you if you have anything i think aldi who's our resident you know psychiatrist a no this go ahead and tell us what what we got what what should we be doing here in this situation you know to be honest like you know frontal temporal dementia is typically diagnosed uh clinically right so lot of times it's good like the psyche valve that she scored really well on is very reassuring But typically, if you have a diagnosis of frontal temporal dementia, it's supposed to worse and get worse over time.
00:38:43
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So I think that behind the scenes, something is going on. I don't know. There's been some sort of, ah I guess you could say, accusations of her son and her family trying to take advantage. And it's very possible.
00:38:55
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People nowadays could pay doctors to lie on the evaluation. And say this person isn't mentally competent. And so we could take over. I mean, there was video footage of her, I believe. She was in a hotel or something like that.
00:39:07
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And she was saying, help me, help me, help me. And while they were like recording her, you know mean Some of the frontal temporal dementia would not necessarily be in a state to be like, help me, help me.
00:39:18
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You what saying? Right. Cause have changes in personality and have changes in their ability to speak, right? That's where the progressive aphasia is. Progressive means worsening aphasia. So it'd be worsening that she won't be able to understand language. You won't be able to talk.
00:39:31
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She will have like things like possibly like hypersexuality. She will have like changes in ability to interact, socialize. And it doesn't seem to me at this point that she has any indication of that.
00:39:42
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But again, lot is clinically diagnosed. So we can't objectively say that she has, you know, I'm saying frontal temporal dementia. And it's very easy for you.
00:39:53
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was going to say, what? Like, where's the imaging? Where do we have an image of her head sitting showing? You know, it's like, I mean, they're not probably going to It's all hearsay. It's all we don't know if this is real. Is this fake? Is she like it sounds? I don't know. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it's a very common dementia before the age of 65. The average age of onset is at 58.
00:40:19
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right So with that being said, she was like, I think 54 or 55, something like that when they diagnosed her. So it like ah certain things just fit, but clinically we're not there, right? We're not the physicians that's assessing her.
00:40:31
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Right. I've seen this a lot of times. so Right. This is not a ding to her physician. Like I'm not, i once again, the MD is still pending, right? It's coming in once in two months. So like, you know, let me not sit here act like I'm an attending, but I'm just wondering kind of like some of the stuff is, it's not really fitting really, but yeah.
00:40:48
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It's not really fitting. I was just going to say, maybe the budding surgeon shouldn't talk about this too, too hard. But ah we do have another like celebrity that famously also has frontal temporal dementia, ah Bruce Willis. and Yes, he does. He's a very clear cut case of it. like He's very Very much so.
00:41:08
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His family is not showing him anymore. They're having to take care of him. He's lost you know right pretty much all his ADLs. Right. Again, and like I said- Within five years of diagnosis, most people, they can't walk. They can't talk. Like, they've been... I was going to say, like, shouldn't she be getting worse? Like, we're still seeing her. or She's having full conversations on the breakfast club.
00:41:29
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Like, what? It's not adding up. Where's the frontal temporal dementia? Like, you know, I'm just confused. Now, we could argue alcoholism. Maybe she could have Wernicke. Okay. If she's, like, drinking a lot, like, she could have some type of, you know, evidence of encephalopathy at certain instances. Yeah. and so and stuff like that. i haven't seen her walk or anything like that or confabulate. Obviously, I'm not seeing her, but I don't see her having that, to be honest.
00:41:57
Speaker
She's having full conversations. She's not the only one, though, that we're we're having but we're having questions about their health. I mean, Kanye, right? You've got more to talk about, al Aldwin, because Kanye right now has been giving crashing out.
00:42:11
Speaker
It's been giving people. Here and there, you know, it's not really giving straight line. um Recently, we've heard about him kind of being on social media, kind of making a lot of statements, some regarding Beyonce's twins. He made some disparaging comments about that.
00:42:29
Speaker
People Yeah I personally did not read all the tweets But I mean I will say We don't even gotta repeat them Yeah we don't gotta He violated If you want to see the tweets you google Kanye crash out social media 2025 And see what tweets can't
00:42:49
Speaker
see what tweets pop up there but you know although i'm curious to know like some people are also mentioning the mom passing i don't know how i feel about that because i too have lost a parent so like i don't really like to use that as an excuse of this is why you should you know but i will maybe speak more to the the bipolar um disorder maybe tell us a little about about that and kind of how you see some of his diagnosis of that and the manifestations and what he's doing with his tweeting and you know I'm not gonna lie. What happens is if you're going through significant traumatic events, I'm not Kanye psychiatrist and I haven't seen him as a patient, but I'm saying, and I've went through it my own personal life so I can speak from a personal perspective.
00:43:32
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But if you have exacerbations of already traumatic events in your life, triggers and the like, it's gonna inhibit, right? Your frontal cortex, that that ability to control your thoughts, your emotions, how you regulate, how you think about things, how you project yourself into the world.
00:43:46
Speaker
And think Kanye does have moments of that, right? He has moments where like for instance, he Divorced or... What's his name? Bianca divorced him. Right? Recently, he divorced a one of those kind of situations. And they've been together for a couple months. You what They were barely with each other. You know what mean? Yeah. She out here naked on the street. Right. Right.
00:44:05
Speaker
Like, just the impulsivity is just incredible. But I wouldn't... I'm not going to say like... I would say like with him in regards to the loss of his mom, like I've seen Kanye's career and trajectory.
00:44:15
Speaker
When I was in high school, i remember when graduation came out. You know i'm saying? Like I remember all of that. And so I seen when his mom died, I read the book and I seen how it changed him, how his behavior changed, his personality changed.
00:44:27
Speaker
And I do agree that there should be some attribution to that traumatic event in itself. And him recognizing that and vocalizing that, I think it's important for us to understand. And this may be a way for him to be screaming out for help, to be honest.
00:44:41
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Sometimes when you're going through traumatic scenarios and situations, you may not necessarily be in a state to be like, yo, I need help on the backside. Like, can someone please come see me? Can I be on meds? Can I be admitted?
00:44:52
Speaker
Those kind of things, right? Sometimes it's like, bro, this is how I'm screaming. Hey, somebody, please, something is happening with me. I don't know how to navigate this situation. And again, I'm not normalized. I'm not accepting it because what he said was very malicious, malignant toward Jay-Z and Beyonce. And a lot of individuals are very offensive. I mean, he had a swastika picture with a shirt with a swastika, you know what I'm saying?
00:45:16
Speaker
and Which is just ridiculous. So um with that being said, I'm not surprised what Kanye does. you know Is he on mez? I don't know. I mean, he wow he said he was diagnosed with bipolar in 2016, but...
00:45:28
Speaker
but we I mean, he says it. I don't know. I'm just saying that. According to an article from Clarity Clinic, they said that, and I quote, Kanye West has been open about sharing that he does not regularly take his bipolar disorder medications, stating that his manic episodes, a.k.a. his highs, are what makes him him.
00:45:54
Speaker
He refuses to stand on his meds against medical advice. am a artistically because exactly because he feels it negatively impacts his music and creative process hence impacting his career as an artist they said that he said i cannot be on meds and make watch the throne level or dark fantasy level music west said in one of his tweets so that's so funny to me because it's like if you think about it kanye is a musical genius. He did make some art that was like, no one ive no one's done that, right?
00:46:26
Speaker
But to think about the fact that that could have been attributed to his mental illness is kind of scary. It's like, so you have to be bipolar to make that music? I don't know, Lord. um mean, a lot of our musical geniuses, I mean, even we go back to Beethoven and Mozart, like these people, they were secluded.
00:46:41
Speaker
There reports that ah Beethoven had autism. I mean, so this is Michael Jackson, right? With his severe depression. right and having to you know get on uh you know um proper fall right and all these kind of things to treat like his anxiety on these kind of things i mean it gets real when you have the pressures to succeed i think that oftentimes if you have underlying mental illness it gets exacerbated a hundredfold versus like a regular person i mean think about kanye can't just walk in a regular coffee shop he can't walk in a regular grocery store like his life has to be very you know narrow it got to be in a certain way right and it's portrayal so
00:47:19
Speaker
that affects, I think, how people really live and can unfortunately take away from how they create positive and optimistic things in the world. It's very sad in to see him in this state.
00:47:30
Speaker
But Kanye, hope you get better. You're still king of a lot of the music that we listen to. um Although I don't support what you're doing with the negativity, swastika, and all that kind of stuff. man I do believe that Kanye, deep down, is a good person.
00:47:45
Speaker
And this is just... ah his emergence in a negative way. So he just needs to you know be taken care of and we got to support him despite what's going on and not ridicule him and antagonize him.
00:47:56
Speaker
yeah And it also just shows you Oh go ahead Jay I think it's important You know we've been down this stage a couple times before think it's really important That we We also add to that list Of support and show love To hold accountable I really think it's important That we begin holding Kanye accountable For the things that he does On the internet I don't know if he feels He's uncancellable I think he feels that you know because he has a special place in the nostalgic part of our hearts that yeah can do nothing that is like you know oh so wrong Kanye and we tip you tip toe on that line
00:48:41
Speaker
He already went over the line, bro. The line's kind of gone at this point. Going and forth. Not in the room. He's definitely crossed it. These things that he posted, he posted and deleted. You know what saying? are going to see it. think just a matter of... I can understand the idea of...
00:48:58
Speaker
he posted and deleted you know what i'm saying but you're kanye so people are going to see it you know im yeah um and i think it's just a matter of like and you know i can understand the idea of You not wanting your mental state altered in order to make good music.
00:49:15
Speaker
Honey, you're not releasing no music. No music. tell me about new Dark Twisted Fantasy? you i was like, where is that the where is the Dark ved Twisted Fantasy number two in the room with us? Because I don't see It's been like 12 years.
00:49:29
Speaker
and Like you had that peak and now it's just been shimmying. Like, you know, like I said, he put out stuff that to me are, you know, legendary, but like as of where it stands, where is the legendary at right now? It hasn't been here for a while. So I'm just... does produce on the back end.
00:49:48
Speaker
You also want to, you know, adhere to your medication. Kanye, you are a father. You have children in this world that, you know, they need their dad to be of sound mind and reasonable judgment. you know what mean? Crash down his kids, too.
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah. and yeah we so So crashing down on the kids, that's that's that's no way to go. You feel me? um Yeah. We are rooting for you, Kanye. We're rooting for you. We're rooting for you a lot more than your ex-wife is rooting you. You know i'm saying?
00:50:17
Speaker
ha you're all for that ah so i um x y figure yeah you already know what's gonna come oh um um um one of my favorite industry couples has a favorite they were one of my favorite they were our favorite i liked them they were cute They were cute, man. They were cute. We're talking about everybody. We are talking about Iman Shump and Tiana Taylor.
00:50:52
Speaker
They are officially divorced. And the terms of the divorce were published all over social media for the people to sink their teeth into. Yeah. They announced their divorce in 2023 and as of 2025, Trump's attorneys requested that the reason for the divorce be changed to irretrievable broken bond.
00:51:17
Speaker
does that Does that make more, put more money in his pocket? though The language? Does it make a difference? Irreconcilable differences versus irretrievable broken bond? while i didn't know the language mattered. He's trying to save his reputation. Let him rock.
00:51:32
Speaker
That's a fact. But before that, though, um Tiana Taylor alleged that, you know, he was treating her cruelly and displaying extreme narcissistic behavior throughout the majority of their marriage. She called Shump. um She claimed that Shump did not want her to work.
00:51:46
Speaker
And when she became a mother, he went on to complain about her lifestyle as a stay-at-home mom. So, you know, just really like playing both sides, sounds like. Yeah.
00:51:56
Speaker
What can we talk about this settlement? So did he pay much does she pay money to him was what it or was it the other way around? No, no, no. Allegedly it's the other way around but look I'm going to let y'all finish But I also saw a video where she was talking about it So lay the groundwork And then we'll talk about it I'm going to lay the groundwork I watch that live too
00:52:23
Speaker
they They have two daughters together She received full custody Okay Ouch Of course So yeah had this settlement the settlement was um So remember, right? Y'all gotta remember, like, they're rich.
00:52:37
Speaker
They have a lot of stuff. And then, you know, like, when you go into, when it's time, like, divorce time, they kind of divvy the stuff up. Like, okay, who's is who's, who's is who's, and now we gotta make it meet in the middle. So, um...
00:52:52
Speaker
Tiana Taylor is getting four luxury homes valued at over $10 million. dollars She's getting a one-time seven-figure payout. That's something over a million dollars.
00:53:05
Speaker
She is getting the Maybach. That's crazy. $300,000. Okay. The Sprinter bus over $70,000. Okay. okay She's getting a tour bus.
00:53:17
Speaker
And she gets to retain full ownership of her business. ye Shumpert gets to pay $8,000 per month in child support to her on top that. that's small.
00:53:28
Speaker
Okay, that's small. Small for who? made a figure payout. Okay. So the child support is for the kids. For the kids, okay. okay the kids and And he is covering the cost of their private school tuition.
00:53:44
Speaker
So $8,000 in addition to
00:53:49
Speaker
paying for school. Oh, you said month he's paying out? eight thousand Oh, okay. like, that's small. Okay, That's, one thats thousand yeah. stomped out, That's fair.
00:54:04
Speaker
aldwin let jared finish because i know you're gonna come with that type of nonsense go ahead jared i'm gonna say is you know they were married seven years yeah um the two daughters are nine years old and four years old um i believe taylor gets full custody and now we can we can discuss
00:54:28
Speaker
good on Tiana, man. You had that prenup sealed. Like, I have never seen this kind of, wow. You did the job. You did that. You did that, for real.
00:54:39
Speaker
Airtight. Yeah. office was it there he knowingly broke the clause we've talked here it several times maybe or maybe or not their relationship was how it was when they were together however he did stuff outside of that yeah and not only that according to tiana taylor she's very um annoyed by the fact that he's sort of not coming to her defense because a lot of the things that you've listed on the settlement she says that she's paid out of pocket for herself and that for a large portion of their marriage, she was the, she was a bigger breadwinner in their relationship because he did retire from the league at some point.
00:55:22
Speaker
And she was bringing in more money through her various industry involvements. So, I mean, i think, you know, I'm very sad that their relationship devolved into what it did because they seem to have a cute couple and they seem to work well together.
00:55:36
Speaker
I don't know what happened with that, but all I can say is that she used the correct lawyers. They had the contracts. And honestly, this is a big lesson in reading your contracts, including your marriage contract and your prenups.
00:55:52
Speaker
you cannot You cannot not follow your contractual obligations and then get mad when somebody calls you on it. Yeah. um I want to just quickly say the rest of the relationship woes because I don't want us to go too long. I know all way you got you got things you want to say just judging off your face.
00:56:11
Speaker
discussed everything. But i will say... ah We had DDG also, you know, whining on the internet, talking about how he's not able to, he hasn't been able to see his son Halo. He claimed it in 14 months, who we know who he's about.
00:56:27
Speaker
They're old news, right? They're old news. But basically, um he was just saying, claiming, making claims that he's not able to see his son. i personally feel like this is something she's doing in the court of law rather than on twitch or whatever platform he uses um but apparently too holly said that her and halo were sick and that's why they were isolating so it sounds like i don't even know whether the things he was saying was completely true or just because of the fact that they were sick no clue think we definitely talked about What kind of sickness is for months?
00:56:59
Speaker
I don't know. 14 months, that's a very specific time frame. I don't know what if, you know, I have no clue. This is just what Hallie said, and that's what DDG said. So I'm just going off what they said. what Whatever the truth is, only God knows.
00:57:14
Speaker
And then we have to definitely mention Seranus Jackson, who is, like I said before, the Z-list celebrity who was on a couple episodes of Insecure. and um found to be we yeah that's crazy found to be similar to his younger brother who is kiki palmer's baby daddy which is teetering towards abuse um hurt his ex saranis's ex took to tiktok um and basically talked about how
00:57:46
Speaker
He was physically abusive, emotionally abusive. um And mind you, he's he's a big guy. He's a 6'8 black man. So I can only imagine what that looks like. um And, you know, he had his own statement basically denying these claims. claims So once again...
00:58:03
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cannot it's these are alleged claims i do know that we heard alleged things about kiki's you know ex and so hearing about the brother sometimes the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree but i'm not going to confirm anything because i do not know what the truth is so this is what's been going on if y'all have any comments let's just let's talk through it quickly Man, we got one minute left. I'm trying to condense it 48 times. I crashed out on a lot of people on this.
00:58:40
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Can I go back to Shump? Can I go back to Shump? Do you want to go back? We ignore DDG and Serratus. Okay. We just have to state those words. We can go back to Shump. That's okay. Real quick, I'm going go back to Shump.
00:58:53
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um I'm not sure if they had a prenup I was trying to look up the details i don't think they had a prenup I think that the divorce was um carried out by the natural um divorce laws of whatever state they got married in and you know I just want to say that this like points to like a larger ah just you know thing that comes up a lot in the community like why men choose not to get married or like yeah why it's more difficult for men to like men to to you know see marriage as like you know a worthy end game but babies right with babies is worthy to with all that child support it's a it's a lose-lose battle it sounds like to me moment's taking care're saying i'm just saying right like like things things
00:59:50
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Things were split. and Split down the middle. Okay. In this breakup. Yeah, you know, listen... listen It's okay. you so it's not you It's not fortunate for him. It's not fortunate. He's not making bread.
01:00:08
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Yeah, he's out to A. don't know what's going on there, you know, since he did retire from the league. He podcast. He got a, you know, I'm on amongst men. Wasn't wasn't going crazy. All I'm just saying is, you know, get yourselves prenups, guys.
01:00:24
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And a good friend of mine once said that prenups, especially in medicine, Prenups do not dictate um you You're not getting a pre-prenup Because you're planning for divorce You're getting a prenup Because you want to set the rules for divorce Because if you don't distinction Correct Correct That's the real piece I want to say That's a good mic drop Don't let them use you Okay, yeah, yeah. Anyway, this is thankfully it's half of us, half men, half women. so you know, it's gonna be a split kind of outlook. Regardless, you know, it's been a lot of breakups, but I'm happy to also state that on the flip side, there has been a lot of engagements and, you know securing relationships, especially amongst black couples, which is a very beautiful thing.
01:01:14
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Shout out to one Black couple um that, you know, a lot of America knows about through the popular hit TV show, Love is Blind. Ollie and AD. So Ollie was a cast member from Love is Blind, UK version. And then AD was during the season ah that was based in Charlotte.
01:01:32
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Yeah. Okay. America. But, you know, it's like different regions of America. So she was in the Charlotte um one. And Clay was her... fiance at the time clay the one that we found out was with selene powell that was her guy and then ollie was with demi i think um in the uk version yeah so as fate may have it right they both of their marriages did not work out or both of their engagements did not work out on the show and you know it's an unfortunate thing when you come into that show hoping to find your one and then it doesn't work out but as fate may have it they they
01:02:10
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landed at perfect match which is kind of like the spin-off version of love is blind where they take ex-castmates from love is blind think other reality date dating tv shows and put them into the cast and they found love with each other and now they are engaged and i just think it's the cutest thing because you know they're a black couple flourishing black couple beautiful black couple and they we were invested in both of their stories in their respective love is blind seasons so it's kind of just nice to see that they found that journey with each other so congratulations to ari and ad yeah love it love it Black love forever By the way, you know, y'all see Netflix? They start in a Pop the Balloon show Yvonne Orgy is gonna be hosting it Stop it, Yvonne?
01:02:49
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Oh nah, bro That's bae I still remember 10 years ago, I got on one knee I got on one knee in real life She said, get up, get up, get up Don't do that nonsense That's really giving Evo She's an Evo girl for real Don't play that nonsense okay oh it's you i Was that UYU?
01:03:10
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Yeah, Atlanta. Oh, okay. Period. and Love that. But yeah, she's going to be Netflix. Make sure y'all check that out. Pop the balloon. Arlette's going to be ah executive producer with her man.
01:03:23
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Okay, love that. yeah have more I'm trying to get on there. We got more engagements as well. Armani and DK Metcalf. Yeah. um She's an R&B singer. He is a um football player. People are calling them the next Sierra and Russell Wilson.
01:03:37
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Yes. They put in the work. They connected them. Yeah. That's beautiful. That's really nice. I love, we love the, what's it called? Like connections or just like referrals. I'm i'm i'm big on, I'm big on pipelines and referrals. Cause that's how you, you sift through people who might not be okay in the head. Okay. At least you have that, you have that input. Like, Oh, I can vouch for this person.
01:03:59
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This is a sane person. And you guys might be good. What happens if they, what happens they vouch and then they not get in the head? Then we got to talk. Yeah, we got to talk. we you got and this' cancer We got to talk. Like, excuse you. That's what you thought I wanted. Okay. Interesting.
01:04:17
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Yeah, i actually know some situations of people who were put on and then it didn't work out. Sponsorships for hookups as well. Sponsorships for... Oh, yeah, 100%. Because you see the dating point right now, it looks crazy. So that might be the one. Be nice. this is Be nice. this This is the year I'm claiming it now.
01:04:36
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Jazz getting married. At AMEC. I'm going to find my husband at AMAC. We're going to find you a husband. Jared's going to find his wife.
01:04:48
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I know what you mean What are you looking for? What about you? You're skipping everybody but yourself. Because I'm going to be on education adult medicine. So I only got one day. ain't go with Oh, that's true. That's true.
01:05:01
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I'll be there for one day. I'll be on Thursday. and So let me not make any assumptions. just I ain't gonna lie from people on the spot. Just so everybody is aware. Yes, we are. Has been Dr. Mrs. We love it.
01:05:17
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and I want the Dr. Mrs. for myself for sure. Definitely want that. Dr. Mrs. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all gonna take the person's name, last name? me Oh, no. is off camera smiling right now.
01:05:32
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i stoped I'm sticking with my last name. That person did not trudge through med school with me. They did not trudge through. they put away mean The last name is sticking as far as I'm concerned. I know why you would even ask. although I don't know why. He wasn't shooting with you in Jeep.
01:05:49
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doctor you maybe said she's gonna hyphenate because she's been with her man since med school there's no there was no man for me in med school i went through that one solo so double barrel the trophy goes to whoever finished it with me and that was me so the trophy goes to me
01:06:15
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Residency is going harder than med school. ain't going to lie to y'all. what if he's put you in residency? I'm already a doctor by that point. What's going to happen? i'm what The MD is already there.
01:06:26
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i do and i people Take backs. Yeah, no take backs. We praise you, Dumebi. We praise you. We praise you. Praise you. Okay? This is paperwork at this point. Ain't nobody doing on it. Who found out the FBI form him again? no This is the modern woman. This is what's going on. I'm not going by What's going on Jerry I'm attributing this to to it being a springtime I think that you guys You'll learn The pressing blues are behind us The season goes effectively We're all getting more melanin in our skin. There's certain people on the call that are that are absolutely glowing. ain't going gas nobody up too crazy, but they they're glowing.
01:07:09
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It's really showing. um Please do. It has to do with the time of year it is. It is March. It is spring. Y'all doing y'all thing. However, March is also, you know, this is still a medical podcast.
01:07:24
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As jokey as we may be, we are all professionals on here. And we have to address our medical awareness month for March. And this is one that actually hits very close to home for me because I have a friend that is dealing with this.
01:07:37
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It is endometriosis awareness month. So, uh, For those of you that may not know, endometriosis is a condition that afflicts only women, can only afflict women.
01:07:48
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It is a condition in which uterine tissue grows in places other than your uterus. It's very simple. um The result of this is mind altering pain this condition is extremely uncomfortable to live with it comes with a host of symptoms and many of its uh i'll say victims are very very uh they're prone to not seeing relief through normal measures they're not prone to seeing uh uh how can i say
01:08:28
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They don't find solutions for a long time. They don't find solutions for a long time. And what's worse is that most women who are diagnosed with the condition, well, most women who have the condition are not diagnosed for four years because...
01:08:42
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They'll go to a doctor. They'll say, hey, doctor, I have this issue. And they'll say, oh, well, that issue is, you know, another doctor. You should go over there. That person will we see your issue. Oh, I'm having this issue, doctor. i have pain every time my period comes. It's severe pain.
01:08:57
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Oh, well, it's your period. Your period is supposed to have pain. um that's That's just normal. You know, take some Tylenol, take some Motrin. You should be fine. you should be fine. And it's not until very long after where...
01:09:12
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someone listens someone takes a little bit more time and the patient can it's usually uh i believe surgery that's required not surgery some kind of um scope scopey some kind of scop yeah and so like a laparoscopic or endoscope yeah procedure where they can visualize and actually see the urine tissue in other parts of the body wire for um diagnosis i yield step three yeah whole And of course, you know, we got our OBGYN doctor right in the audience, so she can you give us any corrections. If it was in person, like at AMEC, we would pull her up in and give her the mic. Very unexpected. We very much would. A couple other facts is that...
01:09:56
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a couple other factses that um This condition, it's ah it's a rather common condition. it affects an estimated 5% to 10% of women. And it affects women solely around reproductive age, somewhere between 15 and 49 years age. Between 15 and 80% of women that endometriosis present pelvic pain.
01:10:17
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that have endometriosis present with pelvic pain and um Yeah, I think you covered like the highlights. And treat. So i ah the last thing, treatment. So diagnosis requires treatment.
01:10:32
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It requires surgery and treatment also requires surgery. Correct. So um there is a risk of infertility associated with the illness and often, you know, a lowered quality of life due to the.
01:10:47
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You know, just sheer relentless pain that individuals with this disease go through. Like I said, I have someone in my life very close to me who recently um actually had surgery to get rid of peridometriosis.
01:11:00
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um She started seeing symptoms about five years ago and she spent about three years. being pointed in different directions by physicians. So um this endometriosis awareness month, I think that it's really important, you know, as we as like budding physicians, people that are entering the field, this is one of those things that, you know, be aware of, look for as like, you know, maybe a gap in the knowledge of previous generations, something that our two new M4s, you know, in your own respective rights, will be able to, you know,
01:11:33
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share with your team a little bit more and be able to, ah you know, maybe we can catch just a little bit earlier. Yeah, I agree. i think you covered everything really beautifully. You know, um i think it's also thank you for birth height yeah I think it's also worth highlighting the fact that um according to Global Newswire, the global market for endometriosis treatment is actually set for substantial growth.
01:11:55
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um And they're actually seeing just more This increasing kind of prevalence of endometriosis is causing more of a heightened awareness and advancements in diagnostic technologies, which is fueling demand for effective treatment solutions.
01:12:05
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So, you know, Jared, similar to you, I also knew one of my my roommate, actually sophomore year, had it similar, you know, to what you've illustrated. She was having this pelvic pain due to her periods for years. not getting diagnosed correctly and then finally had a physician that diagnosed her.
01:12:20
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So especially within, I think, even Black American women, it usually goes undiagnosed for a while because a lot of the times our pain is dismissed and seen as, oh, well, it's just like normal. And we don't get that kind of thoughtful thoughtfulness and care about it. And so that's why people like do maybe matter so much because you need more physicians who look like us, who understand the things that we go through so that way they can take that proactive approach and really trying to deal with helping to manage and work up the things that our demographic deals with a lot. So yeah, beautifully said.
01:12:51
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It's nice because like, this is a medical podcast and like medicine is really at the forefront of what we talk about. In addition, of course, in pop culture. This one was a little bit more pop culture heavy, but you know, we try to definitely talk about the medicine.
01:13:02
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um But even on a more exciting note, AMEC, our... annual medical education conference is low almost here. It's in a couple of weeks.
01:13:13
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And this year, as we stated in our ad, AMEC is in St. Louis, Missouri, So, yeah, so I've never been there before. I don't know if any of you guys have been there before, but yeah, it'll be a first time for me.
01:13:29
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kind just wanted to give a little bit of updates in terms of like, what are some things, you know, people should look out for. So hotels, right? Honestly, there's a list of hotels. I personally do not feel like reading all these lists of hotels out, but I will say that the conference is
AMEC Logistics: Hotels and Dining
01:13:45
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happening. So,
01:13:49
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ah Like, this is supposed to be about availability. How you not go hotels? Sorry. Hold on. You what I'm trying to say? Like, most of these hotels is already gone, guys. So, if you didn't get your hotel, i don't, like, go on this.
01:14:05
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Stavis is looking at me like, girl, what are you doing? but One year for AMEC, I did an Airbnb in the convention center area. That was a real finesse, you know. if Yeah, that was lit.
01:14:16
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If you last went Airbnb, try it out. Yeah. I will say just go on the AMEC site. There is a list of like participating hotels that AMEC like is sponsoring, at least in terms of like the discount codes.
01:14:28
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And then if not, just like search up like hotels around the convention center, which this year it's called America Center. So if you search up America Center in St. Louis, just kind of see what are some neighboring hotels nearby, I think is the best way to go about it.
01:14:41
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um some helpful tips in terms like things regarding st louis so we did have a suggestion from one of our hosts about a restaurant called corner 17 maybe check that out i also got a couple more um from a friend that's from st louis um apparently sugar fire has st louis style barbecue shout out to willow um and where else broadway oyster bar Oh, oysters. Oh, vibrio. oh this one but ha
01:15:15
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can't say the rest of the word. Laclades, Lacledes, Landing, apparently good for drinking and food and so large. So we gave you a couple options. There you period on their very up play don't say the podcast never did anything for you now we we gave y'all some options so start in those places and see where it goes and then now let's get into what to pack for amix i think this is like a very kind of like everybody has different things they want to say sometimes there's not a right or wrong thing to pack i think the basics are when it comes to what are the essentials definitely you're going to bring clothes right whenever you travel going bring clothes um
01:15:55
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What kind of clothes? So in our last episode, yeah, in our last episode with the with the Darkos from um Docs Outside the Box, they mentioned comfortable shoes being something that people kind of miss out on. Like, I know my heel girlies. Okay, I went to Howard, all right?
01:16:10
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I know y'all like to strut in those heels, but you might have to bring another shoe that is kind of a kitty heel or just something that you can actually walk around for long stretches of time because you are going to be doing a lot of walking. in amec um that's just what it is um there's so many different conventions to or so many different like sessions going on in one space and so you just want to kind of hit all that so comfortable shoes dr needarko mentioned bringing modular clothes is how he described it so basically clothes you can kind of use for different purposes so you can kind of use it for a casual a business casual formal and they're kind of interchangeable so just thinking about that like what are some clothes you can bring that can be mixed and matched um
01:16:46
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um And then what about some business
Networking Tips for AMEC
01:16:48
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cards? So this is 2025. And so we can do digital. We can actually do digital cards. um I actually remember last year in St. Louis or in a NOLA, people kind of having digital cards on hand. And I thought that was really cool. Like you can just get somebody's information on your phone. So I think that's a really cool thing.
01:17:06
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um Put it as your background on your phone. yeah exactly makes it easier to say about like the physical ones too like my first amec i had the physical joints yeah the physical yeah yeah i say pick your poison i think maybe pick whatever you feel makes sense for you another thing they highlighted was like having your cv that resume ready to go have that ready to go like bring multiple copies you don't know who you're gonna network with right so um particularly depending on what stage you're at especially if you're pre-med trying to get into med school that might be really helpful maybe if you're med school trying to get into like residency have maybe a certain competitive specialty that you want to connect with people cool have that cv ready just thinking about how do we what are some people what do you guys have some uh tips on when it comes to how people can stay in touch post amec what have you guys done what have you guys tried what do you think is pretty helpful with that get on the gram man collect them grams that's what i do
01:18:04
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And you got the group me you Tap in like usually before AMAC People like probably like a couple days before AMAC po People start like posting all the Like social media platforms Right you just scoutling Yeah start scouting and follow who you want Whatever the case may be Yeah And then when you get on the ground See I'm one of those I say hello to everybody I remember one time I think it was New Orleans I just sat in the lobby and was saying hello to everybody That was coming through Just having conversations.
01:18:35
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So if you're really trying network, it depends on what game plan you got. If you're trying to network, that might be the vibe. If you're trying to really do your thing professionally, then you got to go to, um you know, the med student and the residency fair. So just pick your poison. What's best for you?
01:18:50
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And then to them parties. Yeah, I think the the going to the parties is just as important as going to the daytime stuff. It is very important.
01:19:03
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I know. so So I'm gonna give you out a quick story. I know someone who is an attending now from when I was an undergrad. He was the SNMA chapter to my mom chapter.
01:19:14
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I ran into him at a table. Right. And I had did some and, you know, we just chopped up whatever. And then I went around the medical school fair as well as the residency fair. And, you know, i was at the residency fair on behalf of another friend who couldn't make it to AMEC. Right. That's another thing I could do. y'a could go and not work on behalf of other people.
01:19:32
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um yeah they just put they just type their email into their tablet and they'll get all the info and you know it's like they was there um really means you do a for um and i talked to a bunch of them and you know a couple was from new york and they from brooklyn so you know brooklyn dudes we could like just catch a vibe with each other like offer it it don't matter where in the world we are we can look at each other calm Calm is crazy. Because that's really what Jeremy said. Jeremy says calm. It was giving.
01:20:03
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Okay, Bronx. Okay, Battle of the New York Burroughs. And all of those attendings, so three attendings are all like out with each other in a spot.
01:20:14
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One of them is my man's from when I was in undergrad. Two of them I met that day. And they're like, oh, shoot, Jared. All three of them said, shoot, they're you know what, Jared? You what? How you know, Jack? When I tell you, I was like, oh, you see that networking? Oh, we do it.
01:20:28
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And it's proceeded to have a very good time the rest of the night. I love that. We were talking, chopping it up. And I feel like we are genuine friends. I have those gentlemen's phone numbers.
01:20:40
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i mean I can call upon them genuinely if I'm in a pinch. You know what mean? Yeah. That's just what I mean when I say it's just as important to network during the night as it is during the day because you build a relationship during the day, but you
AMEC Essentials and Podcast Events
01:20:53
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solidify it at night. You know what I mean? um Isabella, also, you forgot on the what to pack list.
01:20:58
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You did not add the Saratoga water, the bowl of ice, and the banana. You know what? Please, please, please. It's very important, guys.
01:21:11
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Amec, you need to have your daily routine on point. That's a fact. Skincare. 30 a.m. Wow. um sure I thought you were going to say something of usefulness and then I heard that. But you know, I'm going to let you slide. It's the podcast. Check your DMs, Isabella. Check your DMs.
01:21:30
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I sent you some some stuff so that you can... Oh, okay. but no one thing Her DMs be busy, you know. yeah oh i could so You have that much faith in me? Okay. Check DMs for me, guys.
01:21:41
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ah Well, why were we still we did actually forget to tell them about one thing. and The gala outfit. Don't forget that. Correct. That's important. I be forgetting every year. That's a fuck. I don't know what the malls are. you know the I don't know what that looks like in St. Louis. so right you got do Make sure you bring it.
01:22:02
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and i know like For me, I am not leaving the conference grounds. I'm going from the conference to the hotel to the function. that I don't want to shop for nothing. Oh, No Uber. and Okay. no i' trying so here is the rules over and though that's That's why they said get to choose. That's why they said i want everything to so close. I don't want to go shop for nothing. Bring it from home.
01:22:23
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It's the best thing. While you're shopping, you're missing out on something else going on at the conference. That's a fact. That's a Fendi. However, shameless, the most shameless plug you'll you'll ever see.
01:22:36
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Make sure y'all come see us. If y'all made it this far in the pod, want to like us a little bit, make sure y'all come catch up with the podcast crew at AMEC.
01:22:47
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We're going to be there very early. oh d We are going to be there from Thursday. we will be opening up AMEC actually with our Pop the Balloon event in the Expo Hall.
01:22:59
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Come out, see if somebody's going to ah you know what i Catch a vibe, catch a vibe Pop a balloon, pop one, pop all And I'm pulling up from Nashville too For one day So y'all better pull up Don't waste my time so After that Thursday night Y'all can catch us um hosting the amac talent AMEX Got Talent Talent Show on Every year we do one event like this You know this is a bigger event, it's a bigger social event
01:23:31
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It's always a good time. It's always a good vibe. And then we are going to have our classic, our staple. If once again, if you made it to this far in the episode, you're going to have our run the list live show.
01:23:45
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nice they It's going to be ah modeled after some very popular podcasts and things you may have seen on social media. So you won't want to miss this one at all. At all. High, high yield, high yield, high yield. Okay. Make sure to see the podcast.
01:24:01
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on new hosts like you guys don't know what you're gonna see so you gotta come see us that's very true we expanded from three to six so it's gonna be a full house we cannot wait to see you guys there you're gonna have a blast we've never had shame on the plugs ever on this show but you know guys thank you for staying with us but this is our show tonight thank you so much for joining us for this episode of the lounge Let us know your thoughts about the discussions we had today or ask us a question for your chance to be featured on the show by emailing us at podcast at snma.org.
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:24:36
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Be sure the follow us. The SNMA on all our social media platforms to stay up to date on upcoming events. Now cue the outro music.
01:24:49
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Jared, you need help. So you know what it sounds like yet? Nope. Alright. Bye guys. Thanks for coming Bye guys.