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“Gender equality is not only a fundamental human right but a necessary foundation for a peaceful, prosperous and sustainable world”
To celebrate International Women's day, this week, we are looking back on some inspiring female baristas from all over the world by sharing their different stories! Including their journey to where they are now but also the adversities, they faced as women In the coffee industry.
In this episode, we have two guests Irina and Olga, ex-baristas from Russia sharing their coffee journey, and current life as regular Russian people.
We believe humanity runs on coffee, so spread love, not hate.
Read more stories of female baristas here
https://notabarista.org/she-is-a-barista-happy-international-womens-day/
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Support the show
To celebrate International Women's day, this week, we are looking back on some inspiring female baristas from all over the world by sharing their different stories! Including their journey to where they are now but also the adversities, they faced as women In the coffee industry.
In this episode, we have two guests Irina and Olga, ex-baristas from Russia sharing their coffee journey, and current life as regular Russian people.
We believe humanity runs on coffee, so spread love, not hate.
Read more stories of female baristas here
https://notabarista.org/she-is-a-barista-happy-international-womens-day/
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You can order on Amazon US or on our website directly
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome to the I'm Not a Barista podcast. We're here to talk about all things coffee from industry careers, brewing tips, community support and more with some really incredible people who love coffee as much as you do. We hope their stories inspire you because humanity runs on coffee and together we can empower all the people behind every cup.
Spotlight on Female Baristas
00:00:35
Speaker
Hi, welcome back to the M. La Bursa podcast. Happy International Women's Day. Let's make a week. Happy International Women's Week. So this week we are looking back on some of the most inspiring female baristas from all over the world. And we are sharing their coffee stories. This is also a very busy week for our interns, including Molly from the UK, Dolly from China, Elias from Romania and Kuzai from South Africa. So I want to say thank you.
00:01:02
Speaker
Many countries see female baristas less capable, but these women trust their abilities and they reach their goals. So we have included some of the stories from a wide range of women. You can check all the coffee stories on our website, not a barista.org or our Instagram, I'm not a barista. And we would like to shine light on female baristas around the globe and ensure all women can be a part of the coffee community.
00:01:29
Speaker
We were able to connect with two female actresses from Russia in this special time. And I hope in coffee, we spread love, not hate. So welcome to an Amal Berista podcast. It's such a pleasure to meet you and have you in this episode. Let's get started. Let's start with you,
Irina and Olga's Coffee Journeys
00:01:49
Speaker
Irina. Tell us about yourself and who you are. How did you start your coffee career?
00:01:54
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Hello. My name is Irina. So I've been working in coffee for 10 years already. I used to be a barista for two years, but then I became a tube barista, then a coffee trainer. And now I'm a co-founder of Astor Cafe. So I'm a bar manager. I also train people here and I'm an AC trainer and a coograder. So that's in a nutshell who I am.
00:02:24
Speaker
10 years is quite a long time. Yeah, sure. And our another guest, she's Olga, also Perista. Welcome, and tell us about yourself. Just wanted to ask, help me translate, because I think all of what I want to say, I couldn't talk in English.
00:02:46
Speaker
because I just started to learn and I'm just a little bit shy. And if I started to talk in English, you don't understand anything. No worry. It's not going to be a problem. I'm really worried about it. It's important for our life.
00:03:05
Speaker
Because when you work with coffee, you must talk in English a lot. And it's my fault, I think. Could I talk in Russian?
Challenges in Coffee Careers
00:03:17
Speaker
And maybe if you... Sure. It's okay for you, Miki. Of course. I have no problem at all learning Russian, right?
00:03:27
Speaker
You must start now. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here.
00:03:56
Speaker
We have a group of people who are interested in this group. We have a group of people who are interested in this group. We have a group of people who are interested in this group. We have a group of people who are interested in this group. We have a group of people who are interested in this group. We have a group of people who are interested in this group.
00:04:20
Speaker
Okay, so Olga, she's been working in coffee also for 10 years already. She started as a barista as well. Then she worked in the quality control with the roastery and the last four years she worked in a green coffee trader. Now she, the last six months she's been working with Delong company. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
00:04:45
Speaker
You both work in the coffee industry for the last 10 years. Yeah. Do you still remember what it was like before 10 years ago? Oh, yeah. So I remember that vividly. And when I became a barista, there were not specialty coffees, coffee shops. So there were like coffee shop chains here in St. Petersburg. And of course, there was no any words about specialty coffee, what specialty coffee was.
00:05:15
Speaker
And I worked in just a simple coffee shop chain and we used a blend with Arabica and Robusta coffee. So, and gradually it became like a third coffee wave. And then the coffee industry started to develop in here. So it started in the second wave before the third wave? Before, or right before, yeah.
00:05:45
Speaker
Kinda, kinda.
00:06:12
Speaker
Oh, very, very same.
00:06:18
Speaker
In Brazil, it is possible that the whole of the history of the world is about to start, and I think it is important to understand that there is an opportunity for us to be free and creative. And I think it is important to understand that there is an opportunity for us to be free and creative. And I think it is important to understand that there is an opportunity for us
00:06:41
Speaker
I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be here in Costa Rica, because I'm super happy.
00:06:50
Speaker
Okay, Olga started to work in a tango club. So it was like dance school. And there were many Argentina's people who taught people how to dance tango. And they were small, like a coffee school attached there. And she tried to make coffee there. And it was like the same Italian coffee, like blend with robusta.
00:07:15
Speaker
And after a while, she started to work in a small coffee shop in Goriji Park in Moscow. And there was some Costa Rica, which is 100% Arabica, and they felt very cool serving that coffee. I mean, it still sounds very cool. 100% Arabica nowadays. I'm curious, how much did you make 10 years ago?
00:07:44
Speaker
It was terrible. Oh my God. It was just one hundred rubles. I mean, even less, maybe 90. Yeah. When I started, it was like 90. 90 rubles. I guess it was about $1.5 or maybe even less than that. I imagine. So 10 years ago, it was the different currency. Yeah. Sort of like dollar or $2 kind of.
00:08:15
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, it was okay, because I was a student, I didn't mean like to continue working as a barista to me, any 1000 approvals was fine. And, you know, it was just service job. And I was like, Okay, any money, I'm okay. So I'm in. I have a cup of coffee. And that's all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was not a profession, you know, it was not an occupation, like in a proper occupation, where you can spend your salary for
00:08:42
Speaker
normal life or renting, etc. It was just extra money. If you're a student, of course, with that salary, we couldn't afford to rent to travel somewhere. Yes. I want to know during those 10 years, have you ever thought about you're going to change your career, do something differently? I mean, is the boring to do the same thing for such a long time? Yeah, it
00:09:12
Speaker
It's very good question because in my life I have never had this thought because I don't know how come it was my destiny. I just continued working with coffee, continued learning and I don't know. I never felt like that.
00:09:29
Speaker
Great job. I respect that. Thank you. 10 years. How about you, Olga? I have once. It's been a long time since I've been here. It's been a long time since I've been here. It's been a long time since I've been here. It's been a long time since I've been here. It's been a long time since I've been here.
00:09:54
Speaker
I think it's important for us to look at the campaign and see how it works. I think it's important for us to look at the numbers and see how it works. I think it's important to look at the numbers and see how it works.
00:10:09
Speaker
I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
00:10:31
Speaker
I think it's important for us to know that there is a source of resources and resources that are available to us. I think it's important.
00:10:51
Speaker
Okay. Olga had only one, this experience and only one time when she had a very big offer, it was like fun and not very serious when she had that thought. So it was like late order when they had to make like 900 kilos of coffee to just pack it.
00:11:15
Speaker
and like deadline was like today and when she felt it like 500 kilos of coffee and she couldn't do it anymore and she was like no I just fed up with that and maybe she had like a burnout because of this huge order and she made it herself so and she decided no maybe
00:11:35
Speaker
That's the final drop. But anyway, she finished this order and she had this feeling like she felt relieved and she decided, okay, so I can do even more, even better. But in coffee, she said, you have to stop, think, and when you have this energy, you can do more, good job.
00:12:03
Speaker
So I have a quick calculation here. If you talk about 900 kilograms of coffee, 250 grams for a bag, that's like 3000, more than 3000 bags of coffee. That's a lot. It must be so challenging to do everything within one day. All right, so let's get back to Urena.
Irina's Competitive Coffee Journey
00:12:20
Speaker
How did you burst the career grow after that?
00:12:25
Speaker
When I became a barista, so I was eager to learn a lot about coffee because it was something new. It was even more interesting than I was studying into university. And I was like, okay. And I studied coffee better than in university. So, and I started to compete in competitions. So it's how the coffee wave just grabbed me. And I just stuck here still.
00:12:54
Speaker
and decided to learn more and as you learn more so you can share this information and I decided that, okay, so I can share this information with people who surround me. So I was like, okay, I can beat you Barista, I can teach people.
00:13:08
Speaker
So one step by step, I became an AC trainer after just a couple of years. So Hotworks does pay off because now you are a cow founder of a fine dining restaurant in St. Petersburg. What a journey, right? I think this is.
00:13:24
Speaker
those kind of story we want to share because your story, your craft story inspires others and give them hope that you work hard, work smart and then you can reach something. Yeah, true. And this very nice feeling when you can feel that you share with people your passion, your experience and people like it, of course, it what inspires you to work harder more and inspire more people in future.
00:13:52
Speaker
I have to ask Olga if everything's okay, Claire. Yeah, for understanding, I have no problem. I have no trouble with understanding. So, Olga, you got to know coffee through tanker dancing and then it became a birthday in Korgibark in Moscow. So, this is how you get started and tell us more what happened after that.
00:14:18
Speaker
I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting. I think it's very interesting.
00:14:33
Speaker
The product was developed in a very extreme way. It was developed in a very high level, and at the same time, it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level, and it was developed in a very high level.
00:15:21
Speaker
The journey was very interesting and long.
00:15:28
Speaker
said that she started to be the barista but also she really wanted to learn about coffee but not to be a coffee trainer like me but a more scientific way and approach to go deeper in this coffee knowledge and also if you work with espresso of course you can learn more about assortment of coffee you can work closer to your uh roast master so it's how
00:15:54
Speaker
She started to learn about coffee process and about all of the information about coffee. Yes, and I think that's it. I think it's important to know that you have to be able to use this technology to control yourself, control yourself, control yourself, control yourself.
00:16:28
Speaker
Okay, so and after many years of working with the roast master, of course, you know a lot about assortment. And the next step is obviously working in a trading company to go deeper and green coffee knowledge, green coffee quality.
00:16:38
Speaker
I think it's a good subject, but I don't know if it's a good subject, but I think it's a good subject.
00:16:50
Speaker
He wanted to be in the farm, but next step was to work in a coffee trading company. I think not so. Sorry.
00:17:14
Speaker
Not like for a permanent way, but to cover all of the knowledge about the processing and agricultural way of growing coffee. Of course, it's very interesting part for Olga.
00:17:28
Speaker
I think it's important for us to know that we don't have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money. We have a lot of money.
00:17:53
Speaker
But the group in Israel and in this palace nest, we want to harsh day near the hotel is which you're not sure if you're an exclamation, but the company that was in my second, no, no, no, no option. The company that deal with the machine and the DOMA.
00:18:12
Speaker
And I think that it's important to understand that there is a lot of people who are interested in this, and I think that it's important to understand that there are a lot of people who are interested in this.
00:18:32
Speaker
Always saying that, of course, working in the farm is just a dream job, but not now, and it's really hard, and sometimes you feel nowadays that currently it's a little bit useless. And the goal working in DeLonghi company is just to get to know and connect the broad market of the normal commodity coffee.
00:18:57
Speaker
and the longer company just gave Olga a chance to give more information about high-quality coffee via their company and that's why she decided okay so I want to share knowledge and I want to
00:19:13
Speaker
share to more people about coffee because now still there are not a lot of many people who know about specialty, about regional rosters and now she has a chance to get to know the audience with the regional roasting companies and that they exist. It's not only about Italian roasting companies, it's about local ones.
00:19:40
Speaker
Thank you for sharing.
Impact of War on Russian Life and Business
00:19:41
Speaker
So we quickly talk about the past and the last 10 years. How about we talk about now what's happening in Russia and as Russian citizen, what do you see in Russia at this moment and how the war affects your regular citizen situation and how it affects your life? Yeah, so it's been like 10 days already, right? 10 or 11?
00:20:10
Speaker
So yeah, so basically, the first days were in like stress, shocking. And you couldn't believe that it is possible like real war when people are dying. I know about informational war. I know about like, Western media, like European media.
00:20:33
Speaker
US, etc. But how it is possible nowadays about like the guns and usage of like military weapons, it's really hard to realize. The thing is, so first days were shocking. And now we already have lots of sanctions from West and from the US as well.
00:20:58
Speaker
What we have now, like lots of European and US brands live in the market, like let's say about some clothes brands, also like IKEA, about Spotify, about like Facebook, Twitter. So they're just closed and banned.
00:21:17
Speaker
the same time, it's not about the West, it's also about inner government, like our government, they blocked independent news, right? So and it's really hard right now to find the proper information what is happening. And so this is really scary and not to know what is actually happening. And speaking about situation like economic wise, of course, prices, currency just dropped,
00:21:48
Speaker
What we do, what we work with, it's coffee. Coffee we buy in dollars. We work with products. Of course, lots of products we import. So of course it's already high, like more like 30% already expensive. And we can see it not only in our companies, it's already in shops, in supermarkets. That's yeah. So, and about safety.
00:22:18
Speaker
Yeah, that's lots of stuff happening actually and it's getting scary day by day. I remember the first day or the second day I read the news that young people went on a straight in St. Petersburg and protest and about 900 people got arrested at night. Yeah. So everybody understand what is going on in Russia, right? You mean about protests or about people who were arrested? Of course we, yeah, of course we
00:22:44
Speaker
We know about protests because we still have telegram which still not blocked, luckily. And we know that people still want protest because it's only one way how we can change our lives. And of course, we love to live here. Of course, we don't want to leave our houses. But at the same time, we can realize it's getting harder and harder to live here.
00:23:14
Speaker
I don't know, I even don't have any plans for future, even with my partners who are involved in the Oster project, right? So we just discuss it day by day because we have nothing to say. Of course, we can't do any quick decisions in panic, right? It's very bad when you just make something like, okay, I'm leaving country tomorrow.
00:23:37
Speaker
I think it's bad, right? So you have to stay with a cold head to just, uh, because we are responsible not only about us, but also for people who work and still just living the normal life. Yeah. And especially your business owner. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really hard. It's really hard actually. And I'm afraid of, you know, waking up every day because every day you sanction every day you dropped currency. So I don't know. It's, it,
00:24:07
Speaker
It's bad really. I can't even say anything more because we have nothing to say about future. So this is most scary thing when you live your normal life. You can't plan anything right now.
00:24:19
Speaker
And that is the horrible side of a war that you cannot play in your future anymore or there's just no future because people die. And then all the victims on this are not just people in Ukraine, but also the regular innocent citizens who are living in Russia because all the sanctions and the God knows what can happen next.
00:24:43
Speaker
And it seems all news and social media, people are posting Russians are evil, Russians are bad people, including Russian citizens, that's just not fair. And even the SEA suspended Russian baristas just like hilarious. I just don't see the point how you suspend Russian barista joining competition can help.
00:25:08
Speaker
Anyone? Let's get back to Olga. Tell us about your life in Moscow right now and what happened, how you think about everything.
00:25:20
Speaker
I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not.
00:25:42
Speaker
And I don't know if it's true or not, but I think it's true. I think it's true. But I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true. I think it's true. I think it's true.
00:26:09
Speaker
And I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, so Olga is saying that the same situation in Moscow, so when she knew about it, it was also panic, it was also shock. And we have nothing to do. And also she's saying that our generation, like young people, like, so we have never experienced that we can do anything, we don't know how to behave. So what we're doing now, it's just important to save our cold head, to support each other.
00:27:05
Speaker
And it's very important to just save our humanity. Otherwise, everything will be just, you know, just burned because of our feelings because of our panic. So the most important thing is just support and humanity.
00:27:22
Speaker
And that is correct. It's important to keep calm and think. And instead of just being panicked, how do you see your life in the short future? And then facing all of the criticism towards Russian citizens and how to respond to all of those. Oh my God. So, you know,
00:27:50
Speaker
I mean, I'm a positive person, right? So I know people around the world. I had a chance to work internationally. I know people. It's really nice having support on Instagram, for example, lots of people writing me as well.
00:28:07
Speaker
We don't hate Russians. It's okay. So we support you and Ukrainians. It's okay. I'm really happy seeing that messages. You know, it's really supporting. Yeah. Otherwise, without that, it's really hard to leave. And I understand that, of course, I do believe in good people. And I personally don't divide people by nations. I even have some baristas who work
00:28:33
Speaker
in Ukraine who live there, of course I see their stories, of course I support the, I try to ask them how are they even despite of all of the hatreds they have already for Russians. I know I see that message is that they hate us, but I mean, we are responsible for ourself still, right? And of course I don't like this situation and I feel okay during the
00:29:03
Speaker
maybe many years, like even two, three, even more, we will have that, how can I say, leftovers after that situation that, okay, you're Russians, maybe you're like occupant or et cetera. But I still believe in good educated, well-educated people who understand that it's not our personal choice. And I mean,
00:29:30
Speaker
if they think like, okay, it's my or Olga's fault, I think it's your narrow minded opinion, right? And I don't think like you think, okay, it's you, you particular guys who are like, you know, we blame you. No, I mean, I'm trying to save my emotions as well. Okay, my nationality doesn't matter. I mean,
00:29:56
Speaker
what matter is your behavior, your opinion, your attitude. And yeah, that is right. We can change who we are, but we cannot change where we were born. Yeah. But of course, of course I realize that I will have a lot of these messages like, okay, you're from Russia. Okay. Okay. I mean, I'm ready for that. I mean, what can I do? I will probably just smile and say nothing if you
00:30:24
Speaker
Think like that, if you're narrow-minded, I can change you, right? I mean, really nice that I have these messages from foreign people that they support us, they support Ukrainians, it's about humanity. It is just saying there's just so much hate. So, Olga, is your brain still working in this situation? Or I can ask, what do you want to say to the people on the Internet or to our community?
00:30:52
Speaker
love is a superpower, she said. So in the beginning, she said she was suffering at the beginning. And of course, when she also got connected with her foreign friends, and she realized that they are fine with her. And it's not about like personal, something like relationship. It's about more about friendship. It's about coffee connection. Of course, it's more stable. And she believes
00:31:20
Speaker
that we can stabilize that, despite of this situation, anyway, people are going to be friends and still be connected in our industry, in different industries which are international. And we need to give support for every nation, for every country, just be friends, be friendly.
00:31:47
Speaker
And love is a superpower we needed right now, even more.
00:31:54
Speaker
Right, right. Love is powerful and I spread more love, no hate. We know that there are many sanctions towards Russians and then, apparently, innocent Russian citizens, they are the ones suffering and taking the consequences of everything because, right, let's talk about the visa, mastercards, they don't work, so you cannot use them anymore. You cannot travel anymore. And then the closed Agia shop.
00:32:22
Speaker
Many brands decided to leave Russia to protest. It's just insane to see all this sanction. Actually, they are making a huge impact on impact on regular people's life. And apparently everything, everything are going to be more expensive. Coffee will be more expensive, clothes, cars. And as a business owner, how does this affect your business?
00:32:51
Speaker
So what I see our baristas, of course, I mean our staff, they still in shock, but they have to work. Every one of us have to work, right? Because our business is needed right now. Luckily we don't work in fine dining because I think they will have some trouble, but like daily basis like coffee. So it's what people need right now and they still can afford it.
00:33:21
Speaker
But anyway, we will have to change our prices soon because of the currency. The mood is like everyone has the same mood, right? So we are in shock. We are not stable. We are nervous. It's hard to plan future. You don't know what will be tomorrow. Of course, it's like everywhere. And it's really hard to ask, how are you?
00:33:47
Speaker
you know, because it's not very good question, secondly. But anyway, I'm trying to also be stable because as a co founder, you have to show I mean, you can share your opinion of that situation, but also you have to support your staff, because they are afraid they are afraid of losing their job. And, of course, not so
00:34:12
Speaker
I mean, I think 90% of our staff, they don't have a financial, like what they call it, like the savings, right? And it's really hard. So we have to work and we have to support.
00:34:26
Speaker
And speaking about France, so most of my friends, they think about leaving country and it's what I hear. It's what I see in social media. It's really hard to realize that lots of your acquaintances, they're going to leave country, but they can do anything with that. And how about the situation in Moscow, Olga and your company?
00:34:53
Speaker
So in the longer company, so everything is fine and stable. They don't have any reduction of staff, but what they have now. So there are going to be lots of advertising companies, but the shortcut budget right now and every one of
00:35:14
Speaker
August's friends, they're trying to save their money and everyone who works not even in coffee industry, but in other industry, they're trying to save their money and to be like an economic regime.
00:35:27
Speaker
That's a tough situation for everyone and your life just changed like that completely. It's a very difficult topic. Let's talk something else, something a bit more positive.
Celebrating International Women's Day
00:35:39
Speaker
Let's say tomorrow is the International Women's Day and tell us more about this holiday in Russia and how you normally celebrate this day. So actually I don't have any special plans.
00:35:51
Speaker
Really. So to me, it's not very like important days, but of course, lots of people, they have like some specific plans and every office has like a present for female, like flowers, tulips, and even like some physical presence like chocolate or maybe some candy box. So it's like so trivial. To me, it's like,
00:36:21
Speaker
It's what happened at school, like, okay, boys are gonna present some presents to girls and opposite like what happened in February, like girls gave some presents to boys. It's so gender, we call it gender holidays. And actually not a lot of people understand that. It's not very important anymore.
00:36:48
Speaker
And of course, I respect these days because it what happened with women's rights. Of course, to me personally, it's important because still, there are some countries exist with limited rights for women. We know that right. In some countries, you can't even drive a car. In some countries, you can't work if you're a woman. Of course, to me, it's hard to realize and we should say this
00:37:17
Speaker
holiday as a realizing that we have to change, steal and work with the world that women also, they're also humans who can work and drive the car, right? So maybe you don't see it if you work in a metropolis, like in Russia or in other European countries, because you take it for granted, you're already women, you have your rights, but
00:37:42
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We have we should know and we should respect this day because still there are these countries which are so bad for women's life. So how about you? How do you celebrate this day?
00:37:57
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say.
00:38:16
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And I think that there is a difference between the two countries and the two countries in the world. I think that there is a difference between the two countries in the world and the two countries in the world. I think that there is a difference between the two countries in the world and the two countries in the world. I think that there is a difference between the two countries in the world and the two countries in the world.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yes, so we don't have any specific plans because we work in the hotel, restaurants and catering industry. And of course, we understand that we have to do something for consumers, for our customers. And we sometimes forget about ourselves. We don't have our specific plans. We try to make any like special vibe in our cafes and our companies.
00:39:10
Speaker
But of course, it's what happened in our childhood at schools when we had this women's day and men's day. But of course, but it doesn't mean that we don't respect this holiday. Sometimes it's what people say, they sell flowers. Not so important for us, but so important for another people. Thank you so much for sharing. And here's the last question of today.
Encouragement for Baristas' Growth
00:39:42
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Anything you want to say to baristas or people who work in the coffee industry? If you really like what you are doing, you have to stay with your ideas and continue growing yourself and develop your personal and professional skills. I would like to say that there are many products in the coffee industry
00:40:10
Speaker
I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not, but I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know if it's true or not.
00:40:49
Speaker
Okay, so when you work in coffee, many years, so sometimes you're confused by routine, but once,
00:40:58
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You just all of a sudden come by to one specific cup of coffee, which has lots of descriptors and flavors. And you just realize that it's a wonderful product to work with. So keep going, working on that. And don't forget that it's an amazing product.
00:41:21
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Thank you so much for sharing. It's really nice to talk to you to understand what is really going on in Russia and in the coffee community. I hope you keep safe, keep positive, and let's wish all these craziness will be gone very soon. And we can get back to our normal life. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your help today.
00:41:45
Speaker
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