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Episode 113 - ADHD and Hobbies: How They Help and Hinder
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Ever started a new hobby with hyper-focus enthusiasm, only to find it abandoned in a cupboard a week later? You’re not alone. In this week’s episode of ADHDville, your ex-co-mayors Martin and Paul dive into the wonderfully chaotic world of ADHD and hobbies.
Join us as we explore why our brains are magnetically drawn to new passions, the secret (and sometimes absurd) hobbies we keep, and the fine line between a fulfilling pastime and a pricey, forgotten hyper-fixation. From bizarre hobby quizzes to the mental health benefits of finding your flow, we cover it all with our signature blend of lived experience and humour.
Ready to jump in? Here are the key timecodes for the main segments:
- 01:23 – Welcome to the episode: ADHD & Hobbies
- 03:46 – Secret & Short-Lived Hobbies: Guessing Martin's secret pastimes and discussing the classic ADHD cycle of intense starts and sudden abandonments.
- 11:33 – Hobby Psychology & Benefits: How hobbies provide dopamine, aid mental well-being, and can help us enter a therapeutic "flow state".
- 25:18 – Micro-Hobbies & Collections: The appeal of small, manageable interests and the fascinating world of collecting everything from vintage door latches to Harry Houdini memorabilia.
- 42:17 – The Dark Side of Hobbies: When hobbies become tools for procrastination and avoidance.
- 46:12 – The Dopamine Rating: Martin and Paul score the overall "dopamine hit" vs. "burnout potential" of hobbies for the ADHD brain.
- 48:49 – Community Corner: Shoutouts to listeners and their current creative projects.
- 58:46 – The Hobby Quiz: Can you spot the real, bizarre hobby from the ones Paul invented?
Whether you’re a serial hobby-starter or have one lifelong passion, this episode is a relatable and hilarious look at how the ADHD brain engages with the things we love to do. Listen now!
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ADHDville, the podcast where hosts Paul and Martin bring 40 years of friendship to your ears. As late-diagnosed adults, they explore the ADHD world with fun, games, and the occasional guest—no boring lectures, just a comfortable and hilarious conversation you’d have with old friends. A new episode drops every Tuesday to make your week brighter!
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Theme music was written by Freddie Philips and played by Martin West. All other music by Martin West.
Please remember: This is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals.
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Transcript
Welcome to ADHDville
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What? Back in the room! Back in the room, back the throne. We're so glad that you joined us again.
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um All right, so ah without further ado, let's go to a place where the distractions and landmarks and the detours are the main roads. Welcome to ADHDville!
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Yay!
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Exactly. Hello, I'm Meryl Streep and when I'm not an award-winning actress, I like to pretend I'm Paul Thompson's doppelganger who just happens to have ADHD as of about two years ago.
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Speaker
And I'm Phil Collins, and I was diagnosed with combined ADH and the D in 2013, the combined poo-poo platter, if you
Introducing Hobbies in ADHDville
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will. And we start off in ADHDville ah in the local pub, The King's Agitated Head, where we, Paul and I, the ex-co-mayors of ADHDville, take care of business.
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Speaker
And this week's agenda, hobbies. Hobbies. Hobbies. what ah What a good one. Hobbies. beast It was an actually, it was so probably the easiest one I've ever had to write of our 100 plus episodes.
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I think. 112, is it? Thereabouts. Hang on. I've got a list here. Blimey, you're right. This is the 113th. Blimey.
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who Okay. Yeah, I know. okay All right, well, where should we go? I was thinking the coffee shop, Marty. What do you reckon?
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The coffee shop. All right, let's jump in the freaking tractor. There we go. Oh, starts up first time. Oh, it does, isn't it? Every single episode. Actually, no, once it didn't start.
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think it was about...
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good few episodes back. Is finger not working?
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No, it was the tractor. It was the tractor. Honestly, it was the spark. It was the spark. Oh, okay. something like that. Okay. All right.
Secret and Extreme Hobbies
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Anywho. Anywho. Let me stretch out for this one.
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So, yes, we're here and we're talking about hobbies. Yeah, I think it was a really easy one to write. Really, really easy one to write. And so many different aspects, Martin.
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like Hobbies. to go What is a hobby? What's not a hobby? like I'm going to start off with secret hobbies, Martin. And I'm going to take a i take a guess at what your secret hobby is.
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Oh, nice. I like this.
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Speaker
Okay. You can rate them on, and you know, I've got it i've got three here. You can rate them on, even if they're not true, how likely on a scale of 10 they could be.
00:03:32
Speaker
all right. how That could be my hobby. Right. Taxidermy.
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Speaker
That's like zero. Is it? Absolute zero. I think that's like dead animals. yeah I can't, I cannot deal with dead things. Can you not? I mean, you know. Are you squeamish in that sense? Could you not dissect a of turtle or a tortoise?
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ah I mean, like when I was at school in but biology, we had to dissect what I dissected a a a small shark and a frog. Right.
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Speaker
A small shark. It wasn't pleasant. Just had to be lying around. A small shark. yeah Yeah, we all had a small shark. um And it it was not fun. I mean, you know, I you know i will taxidermy, you know, a kebab.
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Speaker
So, you know, get the pita bread and then
Couponing and Retail Schemes
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Speaker
stuff it full of, you know. Right, it's kind of taxidermy. That's good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So um i will I will taxidermy the bread items with food and then eat it. Okay, next one, Paul. Okay. That was a zero. Okay, all right. um Extreme couponing.
00:04:52
Speaker
I think this is very much an American thing where Americans, they go crazy for coupons and they literally become like a high-stakes sport, it says here.
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Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's ah there was a TV program about it. Yeah, where i think I saw it um where Right, so so some stores, especially grocery stores who have lots of deals going on, they can sometimes, you can stack...
00:05:25
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coupons on other coupons so say it'll be like sent off and then there's there is also an another promo going on which is like you know 50 off and then you end up getting the item for for free and uh When I worked in in retail, so in retail marketing, so I'd i'd be you know doing all the promotional material. We had to be really careful about what offers. i
00:06:02
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there were out there and what the legal verbiage was because yeah you could you could literally got it wrong someone could come in and just clear your shelves and you pay them to do it me crazy could you do that could you are thrifty martin
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i don't imagine you i can't imagine being thrifty
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Well, I'm privileged enough to not have to be. That's the thing. If I was, if ah if I found myself in dire straits. Why? um Not the band. No, just not Mark Knopfler. But, um yeah, i I would be a lot more about about trying to get the most.
Pizza Memories and UFO Hunting
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I mean, I do use coupons when they, if I just happen to like,
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Speaker
have them or I know them or you I will use them when I can it's it's just it takes a lot of effort by and I've never used one um blindme I don't even have store cards seen then I've never had a store card
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All right. I have, well, yeah, I don't have store cars, but like um there's a couple of coffee places that have a reward scheme. So I'll go in and I'll go, oh, Mr. West, hello. And then I'll get my 10th drink for free, which is basically the same i thought deal. I do that so those are good i've got a free pizza about two months ago on the same basis.
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Yeah. and I think it was the first time in my life i'd ever done anything like that.
00:07:45
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Blimey. Yeah. Blimey. wasn't my first pizza, Martin. It's a thing. It was my first pizza deal. No. No. No. I remember the day. i remember the day like it was yesterday.
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Speaker
You and me, art college. I know exactly where I was in the room. Do you? know exactly where you were in the room. Yes, you would be you were you were big behind me, but but but facing the window. And I was looking...
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and now and i was ah looking Yeah, and you were behind me and we were chatting and I was chatting about pizza and you said you'd never had pizza. So what, you're you're about, what, 16? I think 17.
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17? Going on, 17, going on. Yeah. and and And the shock, the shock yeah as anyone. one thing not but Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?
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Weird to think of it now. It is weird because how can you get to 17 and not have pizza? That feels is was weird. It feels so odd. Yeah. Anyway, so so coupons, am I likely to, ah yeah I'd say, yeah, i mean I mean. If you're forced to. A little. If you had the wrong, given the circumstances.
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Okay. All right, last one. Giving me financials. Yeah. This one's bit more interesting. um UFO hunting.
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Speaker
Oh, I know that this is a big one for some people. Could I be, is that a hobby that I could get into? Yeah. no Really? it it isn't. in it No, because it's, I mean, sure, I believe that there are aliens out out there. Have they managed to get all the way here? Right. And then when they get light years, light years, blah, blah. They hang around and then just nab the odd person from a wood. See, I could picture you kind of like travelling around randomly in Nevada with your pickup, your Ford pickup. Yeah, you know what?
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Right. Looking for like opportunities. Yeah.
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Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah. With a telescope pointed to the sky. No. um No. okay i mean I mean, if you if if you're talking about ah if you talk about astronomy, I could get into that.
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Like a telescope?
ADHD and Impulsive Hobbies
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Yeah. Point it to like... And it's, look at them and take photos. I could get into that. Well, I've got that coming up. I've got that section coming up, Martin. Hobbies that you'd like to do that you haven't found the time or the money for yet.
00:10:36
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That's probably, it's quite a long list for me. But anyway, before we get on to that, and have you got a secret hobby? Let's talk about hobbies. And would you like one? Yeah.
00:10:51
Speaker
Not from list, mate. um ah ive I already have enough freaking hobbies. Okay. kind yeah name I can't add any more. All right. All right. Next thing I've got here, hobby that lasted the least time.
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if you ever like Because apparently this is quite big in the ADHD autistic community, isn't it? like um Like starting a hobby on a whim, altering, spending loads of money, and then after about about three days just like goes in a box and never gets used again. Right.
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I'm not like not, generally.
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Right. I think it is it is worth getting into like a little bit of the nit and indeed the grit. Yeah. of it Which is, yes, yeah people with ADHD are often drawn to sort of novelty and high stimulation hobbies, yeah you know where yeah where where where we have these like little intense bursts of interest in something, whether it's go like doing this or doing that. or arts Arts and crafts is is is quite a a big one. And then we'll research it, and then we'll we'll buy all the things. i'm not even researching it. And then we'll...
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Sometimes. And then we'll kind of get into it and we'll do it for a bit and then we'll wake up one day and it's like, oh, that hobby's gone. It's now dead. And all that stuff, it's like shoved into a drawer or a cupboard, and into the kind of cupboard of dead hobbies.
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Yeah. And then that's that's it. And then we just do this thing. Yeah. Over and over. Have you got an example of that? Because I haven't. I haven't got.
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Oh, no, I have got one. I've got bonsai.
00:12:58
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Oh, yes. Which I would. Yes, you were definitely into bonsai. I had one bonsai and it died. And that was it. End of. Oh. You know. And then that was it. No. Can't do that. Turns out bonsais quite tricky. barking up the wrong tree. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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little bonsai dog barking up the little bonsai tree.
00:13:22
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Right. Yeah, I've... i've um
00:13:28
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I do have a few, but they're not – so I am a bit like you, and and I think it comes more comes from like an autistic, um um you know, like a a special interest. So I've got sort of art on the one hand and hand hand and creating music is the is the other. And then these two have just been like – on and off for like my entire yeah life. And then there's a couple of little sporadic ones that pop up. So i I kind of got into like redoing furniture for a while. So I would go around to like an estate sale yeah and I would buy like some piece of furniture and I'd strip it down. That's interesting. And then I'd redo it and then I'd try and sell it. Although I never sold a thing. Right.
00:14:18
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That's on my list. Accumulating furniture. That's on my list of hobbies I'd like to do that I haven't had a chance to
Failed Projects and Furniture
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get to yet. Restoration of furniture. That's fun.
00:14:31
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That's fun, mate. I've done it for my own for myself. I've i've renovated furniture for myself. Like, you know. Yeah, well, that's what I do. That's DIY. Yeah.
00:14:42
Speaker
That's really hobby, is it? Yeah. Not really. No. I mean, i mean i bought a huge desk from the 1930s. It was, like, made in chi in in in in Chicago. It was it was it was it was um it was mahogany.
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And I spent, don't know, a couple of weeks stripping it down and restoring it. It looked fantastic. And then I went to try and get up the stairs to be like, you know, into the office. And it and it it wouldn't fit.
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It wouldn't fit, mate. Jesus Christ. So I ended up going out in the carport for like, don't know, a year or two. And in the end, I just got i just got people just to come around and dispose of it. It was like a... blimey. It was very sad. Mahogany disposed on.
00:15:32
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It's like mega expensive mahogany. Yeah.
00:15:36
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Oh, yeah, know. why you What are you? hope I know. Well, that's it. exactly I mean, like I couldn't sell it. It was unsellable because they'd been sitting ah outside for like a couple of winters it was fun.
00:15:50
Speaker
I've still got, by the way, an old chest that you bought for me. Yeah. Do you remember that?
00:16:01
Speaker
No. Yeah, you do. Yeah. You do, Marty. Come on. You bought me an old chest. sure It's like a classic treasure chest kind of kind of shape.
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Speaker
Like a rounded top. Nice. Oh, yes! I think you bought it from an antique shop in Reiki. yeah Jesus. That's like 30 years ago. I've still got it. thereabouts It's travelled everywhere. Oh, nice.
00:16:34
Speaker
Nice. I like that. that was That was good. It's a really nice It looks like you could put that you could put that on the set of and pirates of Pirates of the Caribbean.
00:16:49
Speaker
you know You could have Johnny Depp sitting on it, and you wouldn't know. it was You'd think, oh, you know that's like the classic treasure chest that Johnny Depp would be sitting on.
00:17:01
Speaker
Wouldn't be out of place at all. Yeah, yeah. ah yeah Yeah. Sorry. was was there a Was there a question in there?
Costly and Creative Hobbies
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It was a question of, like, have you had have you had hobbies that just haven't lasted?
00:17:18
Speaker
and i just yeah there you go. That was one. Yeah. Okay. I would... Right. Because the other thing is, like, some really expensive hobbies that go nowhere as well. I've heard stories of ADHD that, like, they suddenly decide they're going to get into snorkelling.
00:17:36
Speaker
You know, buying gear, really expensive gear. I've never done that, personally.
00:17:44
Speaker
I like my hobbies cheap. Although, um although, although the music... is is a big hobby, and then I've got some stuff. I mean, if you're watching on the YouTubes, it's it's all behind me.
00:17:56
Speaker
It's all behind me. And that can be expensive, right? And that can be expensive. Absolutely. yeah that can be like Yeah, that can be big big money. Yeah. but But ah I try and keep it reasonable. I don't know if this counts because it's a sport, but I...
00:18:15
Speaker
When I ran the London Marathon about 27 years ago, right, I decided that would never fucking run again. I went out and I thought, I'm going to, because I had really bad hip pain from it.
00:18:34
Speaker
And I bought a bicycle and I spent a ridiculous amount of money on that bike at that time. That's not surprising. Yeah. Yeah. That's you. Yeah. 27 years ago, it cost per pounds.
00:18:53
Speaker
twenty seven years ago and icece yeah jesus That's like a million pounds in today's money. Exactly. The good thing is now, it turns out it was a shrewd bike. It's now worth three grand.
00:19:07
Speaker
Turns out it was a rare bicycle.
00:19:12
Speaker
Oh, nice. So it quite shrewd bike. And I still use it. i used it about four weeks ago.
00:19:21
Speaker
It's beautiful thing. Yeah, worked out. Worked out, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's next? Favorite hobby. So you've got you've got, for example, you've got your music. So is is your music a hobby or is it more than a hobby? Yes.
00:19:41
Speaker
Wait, what's the next level of hobby? Yeah. When does a hobby not become hobby? like almost a job that you're not paid to do.
00:19:53
Speaker
It's a pastime that isn't like, it's more, no, it's not a job. It's, it's, um it's a, like a
00:20:04
Speaker
a, I don't know. to me, I think um my what this about like, when up with my art, you know, my painting and sculpting, it doesn't feel like a hobby. Right. It feels more than, it feels like something more than that.
00:20:18
Speaker
It's not something that I do just to like a pass time. you know so oh I more important than that to me.
00:20:31
Speaker
right yeah because there are there are hobbies that people do just because they you know like just to pass the time but for us a lot with with adhd it is a it is a really nice um you know it it reduce hobbies reduce a your anxiety and actually and improves your well-being. So it is just kind of doing that. Oh, definitely. It has has got got a lot of health and well mental well-being benefits. Yeah.
00:21:08
Speaker
For sure. but this guy I've got a client who I ah teach in Conversation English, and he he's of is a European champion jiu-jitsu guy.
00:21:22
Speaker
But he doesn't make any money out of it. And his his work is almost secondary. He works in a foundry. Right. ae Right? His work is was like this second in line terms of being part of his life. It's like comes after jiu-jitsu.
00:21:46
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Yeah. So in his case, jiu-jitsu is way more than a hobby.
00:21:52
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Right. Yeah. No, for sure. ah ah Now, something that you're going to like, Paul, you're going to like this. So where is it? I'm just just hunting from for my little notes, which I can't find. So I'll just do it off the top of my head, which is that um if you can combine your hobby. yeah So in this case, like art.
00:22:20
Speaker
into are into a career, job, so you turn it into ah into ah a a a job you your brain is actually a lot younger it actually keeps the the brain your the age of your brain if you like is actually a lot younger so it's um it's a it's if you can manage to do that which which we both have so so it's it's it keeps you young in your head Paul yeah yeah
00:22:59
Speaker
Also, we'll go back to what you said about it, you know, in terms of helping with, you know, regulating your mood and stuff. For me, the art that I do is akin to meditation, you know, in terms of like, you know, therapy, you know, which of well known as a kind of a therapy.
00:23:24
Speaker
And it's just to start detaching, unplugging from the world.
00:23:32
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Oh, yeah, there's that kind of like that gorgeous sort of a flow state that you can get into when you're in in your hobbies and you can kind of like just time blind all your time time
COVID Lockdowns and Creative Resurgence
00:23:45
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time away. Especially during COVID lockdown, people suddenly reignited their creative sides, you know, and some people did amazing things during COVID, you know, they would never have done otherwise.
00:24:02
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Yeah. No, no, for sure. You know, like that. um Yeah, there's a... What was I going to say? Yeah, I think... um Yeah, okay, because I... i did Did I do some... creative Yes, yes, i did a i did some i did some creative stuff. So so um that was when Because I used to be in ah in a band with like, you know, at school. So so that was with Steve and Mark and, you know, and we were in a little band back in, you know, the early 80s, whatever.
00:24:39
Speaker
And then we were all source and during that COVID lockdown and we went, hey, how about if we did some music again together? So we it quiet And then we wrote a couple of albums.
00:24:53
Speaker
Yeah, we kind reformed the school band and we did stuff and it was fun. That's brilliant. Yeah. Because a lot of people, they shelve their kind of passions, don't they?
00:25:07
Speaker
In the name of, you know, oh, I haven't got time or, you know, this kind of stuff. Well, they start a family, you know, everything gets sidelined.
00:25:18
Speaker
Yeah. I think um there's a there is a really
Micro Hobbies and Collections
00:25:23
Speaker
interesting thing. Do you have any any of these things, which is – maybe you do, which is called like a a micro hobby, which is a tiny – which is a hobby that you can do for like, you know, five or 15 minutes. You just kind of like just jump into and just kind of do this little kind of thing. It's just a kind of like – you know like it it It is almost like having ah a bonsai on your table. You just kind of go up to it and you and you have a little clip here and a little spray there and then and then that's a kind of like a little short hobby that you can jump into. Collections of stuff.
00:26:07
Speaker
um So collect collecting is is a hobby for a lot of people, right? And um i I'm looking at them now. I collect when I can I always keep my eye out when I go to, like, vintage markets and stuff.
00:26:23
Speaker
Old door latches.
00:26:28
Speaker
ah Of course. yes it and oh Who Who isn't looking for a yeah for door latch? Old nails. You know, the like the hand-forged nails.
00:26:41
Speaker
I've got a collection of those. Keep an eye out for those. Okay. Can't get enough of those. Keep... got one I'll show you. I've got couple. All right. Why not?
00:26:54
Speaker
Here's a beauty. show this one's a beauty. Show me your nails, Paul. no What is that? A latch? It's a latch. She's a beauty. She's... If you're listening in your car... um It is a... What is it?
00:27:11
Speaker
it's ah she so of It's a It's a... A larch, a latch. latch. It's kind of green, so so I'm guessing it's – is that brass? No, i think it's just – this is another one.
00:27:26
Speaker
Oh, of we're getting to see the whole collection here. There we go. know. like – Another latch there. Absolutely. Podcast gold, this is. Podcast gold. Podcast gold. So, yeah, those are kind of like micro hobbies, I suppose.
00:27:44
Speaker
A little small thing. Right, because, you know, like that you know like if you if you have a small thing that you can just pick up, yeah easy did yeah it's even like doing Sudoku or or a crossword puzzle. It's just like something small just to kind of like, you know, that brain fired up without it but becoming like your your whole game is gone. Exactly. Exactly.
00:28:11
Speaker
You can just pick up a latch. Pick up a latch. Give it a little light. This is an old hook. An old cast iron hook. Okay, so a little cast iron there. There we go. You go into the brickwork, you know, you'd have a little hook. All right. I love a love cast iron hand cast metal work.
00:28:32
Speaker
Things. What about you, Martin? Have you got a micro hobby? What? Well, I mean, like, this is this is why I have my music stuff out, right, so that I can literally, i know and I'll come in here and I'll just plink around and I'll just play something for, like, and know, five minutes and I might rig rig record it or I might not, and I'll just get away. and And it's the same with, like, art. Like, I'll have...
00:29:01
Speaker
I've got some art that I'm doing down downstairs and it'll be on the coffee table. All my stuff's there and it's just always there. I can literally just go down and kind of get, oh, let me just, let me just tick in here. And I'll just like work on it for like five minutes, if that.
00:29:17
Speaker
And I'll go away and do something else. so So I'm not, I'm not, it's, I've got long, long hobbies, but they're, but they're out. So I can just like literally pick them up for a bit and, um,
00:29:29
Speaker
and put them down again, which which I like. like um Cool. um So what did what did you do what did you do duringry COVID then, other than music? Anything else?
00:29:46
Speaker
Oh, I spent a lot of time in the garden. I went out there. i I did a lot of lot of stuff out out there. So gardening is a hobby. I forgot to mention it because I yeah do gardenbbing definitely do that. It is a it is a hobby.
00:30:02
Speaker
um So, yeah, that's that's fun. I did do that yes so i did a lot of that. During COVID, I bought one of those Lego Technics sets. you know, there's like really technical, expensive things.
00:30:18
Speaker
a a A turntable? No, no, ah Lego. Oh. Oh, Lego. There's like a locker a very kind of um technical called version of Lego.
00:30:32
Speaker
Oh. Didn't you also make a huge stag beetle? Yes. That's papyamashay. can be Papier mache stag beetle.
00:30:44
Speaker
It's actually It's finished now. Oh, here we go. it's it's It's finished now. That was like 30. i was like third i was like Oh, here we go.
00:30:58
Speaker
Oh, there we go That is unbelievable. So if i mean it's like this matthew you're out there listening in your car, it's it's a stack beetle. it it looks like it's about about three foot. About three or four feet. No, three foot. Three foot.
00:31:18
Speaker
three foot is black and then on its carapace it has the words people pleaser written in white and then a big yellow stripe yeah and that hangs on on the on the wood it and and hang a very very that is yeah stuff yeah because you have much
00:31:40
Speaker
you should put a latch on it mate yeah papi maché i love papi maché
00:31:48
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I love working with Papua Mesha. God, love that so much. just like Just glue and newspaper, and then you paint it when it's finished. It's just the best thing. it's really I guess there's the ADHD thing. it's so There's no process in it you know Bowl of water, mix some glue into the water, you know and then you're away. And a pile of newspapers.
00:32:17
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That's it. yes It's a bit like we were talking last week about soup. You know, it's like and this the kind of like the route to actually the finished product is really easy.
00:32:30
Speaker
Right. and So, ah yeah, hobbies have a lot of health benefits and very good for your brain. Do you when you collect anything, Martin?
00:32:45
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you collector or anything? No. my clip collect bills I collect collect dust. Tax returns. I collect dog fur.
00:32:58
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Right. my My house is full of it. No. you know You've got a big elephant behind you. Do you collect elephants?
00:33:09
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I have an elephant. Oh, that's a god. That's god. That's god. That's a god. That's a god. Yeah. um No, I don't. And I think it's yeah my brain didn't quite work that way.
00:33:28
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Like I've always been into fossils and gemstones and, you know, and and, and, and, and geology. I just never, the part of my brain, which would then want to collect lots of fossils and stuff.
Unique Collections and Ambitious Pursuits
00:33:42
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Right. Never, never did it. Never done, it never been a collector. Yeah.
00:33:49
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No, no, I couldn't do it. ah Yeah. Well, I mean, you obviously collect latches and nails. This is what we've learned LA.
00:34:01
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I mean, I i looked into this because I... You like odd things. Yeah. You like odd, a eclectic... Yes....objects. Like, was thinking... Everyday objects. There was a film once with the Christopher Reeve in it, and he was ah he was an obsessive collector of Harry Houdini memorabilia. Right? All right.
00:34:25
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I think Michael Caine was in the film as well, like a murder mystery thing. And I thought, oh, bloody hell, that is so cool. About the coolest collection I've ever seen in my life. and So I did a big bit of research.
00:34:41
Speaker
A pair of handcuffs by Harry harry Houdini. He was an escape artist, right? Yeah. Cost you about $11,000, which okay.
00:34:53
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But if you wanted yeah if you wanted a poster, right, an original Harry Houdina poster, you could spend up to $114,000. like you know today's estimates. poster.
00:35:11
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a post of course to a hundred and fourteen thousand dollars for ah original harry houdinina harry houdna post harry houdini poster But that that massively appeals to me.
00:35:26
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And then you buy it, and then you put it on the wall, and then and then it escapes. Where did it guy Right. That's good. by way I like that.
00:35:39
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Or it just disappears. Yeah, gone. Was I perfect? Yeah. There's some other bigger apparatus that he had, more sophisticated one. I think it's the most ever anyone's spent in America for Harry Houdini stuff. $324,000 for, was that he had. But could really get into that massively. Love that.
00:36:06
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but ah i could really get into that massive they'd love that Anyway, so the last thing I've got, Martin, is just like a ah list of things that I would like to do if I had the time. Mm-hmm.
00:36:23
Speaker
Go on, then. I've got hey just um restoring and a vintage car. I'd like to do it. I can't because i would just – I don't know how an engine works, so i couldn't do it. Love the idea, though.
00:36:34
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Right. Yeah, I mean, my – my – My brother, he restored, rebuilt a couple of cars. Really? Okay. Like some minis and Caterham.
00:36:52
Speaker
Oh, nice. Caterham for sports car. ah Yeah. Yeah, no, he was he was into that. Oh, very cool. He loved it. Your brother's technically minded then, clearly. Yeah.
00:37:05
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Well, I mean, he would say he isn't, but, you know, I couldn't. No, couldn't either. couldn't just rebuild a car and do all the wiring and all that. no, no.
00:37:17
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No. No, no, no. Yeah. I've got foraging.
00:37:24
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For what? Good question, Martin. Donuts. No, mushrooms, berries, things in the wild.
00:37:35
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um You just want go skipping through the field. dukin The basket. For So this there's a British guy. remember what his name is. I've got his book somewhere. He's the kind of like worldwide John something.
00:37:55
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worldwide expert on foraging. Oh, God, is it? Yeah. I was just guessing. His name is John. His name is John. I can't remember his name. is His surname.
00:38:06
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But, yeah, foraging lovely. I do – I could forage for mushrooms quite safely. Right. So I know my, you know, difference between, you know, a death cap and a porcino.
00:38:22
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ah Yeah, which is good. That's healthy's helpful. Yeah. Other stuff I've got here. Anything medieval. like I could get into anything medieval, like constructing medieval you know weaponry or or just – some people go mad for just like dressing up in medieval costume and going to events. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:47
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and Renaissance fairs, we call them over here. Okay. Love that. All right. All right. So were what would you... So if you if you went to one of these these these Renaissance medieval fairs, what would you dress up as? What would you go...
00:39:06
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What would you be? i think I like just a poor person. You know, it just you your basics. Just a peasant. Just just your basic peasant. With turnip in in the pocket in my pocket, you know, like Baldrick. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:23
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ah Yeah, just a peasant. Simple. Just a bloody peasant. Just your communal garden peasant. Cool.
00:39:34
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Love it. Um... Mm-hmm. would have to go as a minstrel or something. Well, that's another option, isn't it? You could go as ah as a court jester. That would be cool.
00:39:47
Speaker
I could do the court jester. thinking of that for you. I was thinking of that for you. I could do the court jester. With the hat and the bells and the prance and about. The codpiece. That seems up your street. Yeah.
00:40:00
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and the ah and the And the humorous codpiece. Of course. Yeah. So the other ones I've got are beekeeping. I could so get into beekeeping.
00:40:11
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I could so do that. Have you thought? Every year. You can keep bees, couldn't you? You can get a garden. Yes, every year there is a conversation in this house that kind of goes, bees, bees, should we do bees? And then we, yeah, that there is there is work involved. um There is some expense involved and there's a commitment to it. It it isn't like something that you can just set up and just abandon because they're like little, little animals.
00:40:42
Speaker
It's not something you do if your next-door neighbours have young children either. because they can swarm a couple of times a year. Yeah. Yeah. And I kind of feel like I would have to let everyone know but yeah um within, within the area. Like I was thinking about doing, it if you had an objection to it, then, um butcu imagine in and I can see your own honey.
00:41:06
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What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, just let us know. I mean, if you're excited to do that, you know you've got some, you've got some customers here. It's,
00:41:19
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All right. Jesus, how expensive honey. Fly all out all the way from New York to Italy. to italy ah term Yeah.
00:41:29
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Bookbinding is my last one. Bookbinding. Oh, bookbinding. Yeah. That's an interesting one. just ah just just ah Just blank books. Yes, exactly. Sketchbooks, notebooks. Blank books.
00:41:47
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I thought you would. I that could quite interesting. I mean, that's... I think that's fairly inexpensive, I would think. that Not expensive. I mean, it's like... you
00:42:00
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it's It's the, yeah, but yeah, it's the it's the sort of, so you like sort crafts. which is Yeah, it's going in that direction, isn't it? What about you, Martin? You've got like hobbies that haven't, it's like, you've never found the time for it.
00:42:17
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Or think, oh, I've already got too many hobbies, but you'd really like to do it.
Hobbies as Avoidance and Dopamine Hits
00:42:22
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i've got ah As I said before, i just are this there's so much. i've I've barely scratched the surface of the hobbies that I've that i've got. So it's like ah ah my my brain can't cope with something else.
00:42:37
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I mean, occasionally, this is the thought pattern I have, right? I'll start watching TV and someone's doing something really cool. Yeah, yeah. And you go, oh, I'd love to have that as a hobby, you know, keeping goats or something. Who knows? Goats, yes.
00:42:55
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And then you kind of give it about, I don't know, five minutes worth of thought and you go, yeah, no, that's that's not a thing. and then then And then I reverse out.
00:43:07
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Right. do that a lot. See, goats is... I don't think... Goats goes beyond a hobby.
00:43:16
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Right. I think. But that's, like, serious responsibility.
00:43:23
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That is a but a responsibility. so I'm going to shut this the the blinds on this window. not it's about It's about this time that I...
00:43:35
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There we go. It's about this time i ah that the sun comes comes in into my face and blinds me. Okay. That's my load splurged.
00:43:48
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All right. I've got... um I mean, what i the interesting thing about hobbies, the the other interesting thing that is worth bringing up, I think, is that is that there is a... um is the a is that hobbies are awesome are awesome, but they also can be used to avoid things like doing you know your your taxes or or any other kind of thing that you don't really want to do kind of go
00:44:22
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And then you just kind of like slip into doing things your hobby thing and and you and all you're really doing is is just you is just trying to avoid the uh the uh the the bad thing yeah so um so that's that's and i i do that sometimes um i say sometimes i'd say more often than I would like. Right.
00:44:50
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Is that I will do my, ah I'll get into music or art and then, all you know, because I'm just avoiding something else. I think the hobby that i use the most as an avoidance is photography.
00:45:07
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All right. Yeah. Oh, I like that. Yes, I did that for a while. You did, didn't you? Absolutely. I was thinking about that today. Yeah. Yeah, I took some corkers. And then your stuff is like, I so ah see your your photography appears on TikTok. Occasionally, yeah, yeah occasionally.
00:45:29
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come come in here I love photography. Love it it. It's funny. It's like probably the the the one hobby that I've done in my whole life that I've done consistently.
00:45:42
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So I've been photographing consistently, if not every day, every other day for about five years now. Yeah.
00:45:54
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says It's says is a stade, which is quite rare. It's a keeper. um Yeah. All right.
00:46:04
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Okay. I think it's probably worth ah going to the ratings. And I've got quiz after that. All right. well Is he a DWM?
00:46:17
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Or is he a DWM?
00:46:21
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Hobbies. Is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing? and know Obviously, um yeah, dopamine hit. what do you what do you What do you think, Paul? I'm thinking, well, if I had a banjo, you just played the banjo, so that got me thinking. d That is a massive hobby that is a scratch that I haven't hitched yet that really need to. um ah But...
00:46:51
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Dopamine hit. Oh, it's up there, isn't it? It's up there. Dopamine hit. It's a solid 10.
00:47:03
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It's all the dopamines. It's all the dopes. It's all the dopes. It's all the dopes. Oh, yeah. How about you, Martin? How solid is your number? How solid is your number?
00:47:17
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It is a solid nine. It is. Yeah. There there is there is a lot lot to like. Which is significant in itself, isn't it? You know, there is such a massive one on the dopamine. Yeah.
00:47:32
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Yeah. And then the the downs downside, so obviously ah coming into play there is is time, ah money. Yeah. And then.
00:47:43
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Are you doing it to avoid something else? So, you know, that has... i built a butport are you spending too long doing I've spent a ridiculous amount of money over the years on art equipment.
00:47:56
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but But there's not that much, not really. Burnout, not that much, really. I don't don't think I've ever used it to avoid doing that stuff.
00:48:09
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Burnout, I've got to give it a healthy tune.
Listener Stories and Cultural Norms
00:48:14
Speaker
all right All right. I will grasp think mine's a little bit higher. I think mine's more like a three because I because i i do tend to escape into my hobbies and should be doing something else.
00:48:25
Speaker
You should do something about that, Martin. That's on me. Or not. Yeah, I will ah will probably do a TikTok post all about it. Okay. All right. Yeah.
00:48:38
Speaker
Okay. All right. Well, then, let's jump in the tractor and get over to Alexandra's haunted I mean, obviously, he... Oh, Jesus.
00:48:53
Speaker
Oh. the the ah the The updating the tractor, just keeping that going, is is is a that's a hobby in itself.
00:49:04
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All right, well, ah ah Alexandra's ah not here, but um she did leave a really interesting little story about ah on the YouTube. Yeah. um I don't know whether you saw it or not. I'm kind of hoping that you haven't yet because ah is ah because I wanted to kind of like give give this a little bit of um okay little bit of a thing. nice Nice. All right. So we so last week we were we were talking about swearing, right?
00:49:38
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and And she kind of told this this this story. So in in in your mind's eye, want you to think about a little indie film style, a little in in the independent film kind of set around the mid to late 80s, I guess. and Okay. um Perfect. So it has a nice little vintage Yeah. feel Now, the background is, and is this something that you've heard of? Because I haven't. It's if you swore, they would put black pepper in your mouth or pepper. I don't know.
00:50:28
Speaker
It could be chili pepper, perhaps. Right. um so that it was it was like a sort of punishment. So if you swore... Well, they did that in England. They used to put soap in your mouth in England.
00:50:41
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, so in England, yeah. but um But this is... So so our our little indie film takes place in Greece in in in in the late eighty s and and you've got Alexandra, the very young girl,
00:51:00
Speaker
And she's there with her dad and her dad's best friend and family. So there's a bunch of people. And granddad, granddad's best friend accidentally swore in front of her. Right. Little tiny girl. In Greek. He swears.
00:51:21
Speaker
In Greek, I'm guessing. Right. And obviously it's like, oops, you know that thing where swear because you forget that there's little kids around. yeah So that's what he does, right?
00:51:34
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He swears. And then ah so this this guy's wife thought it was be it would be funny to kind of say, and she says, right,
00:51:47
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Now you have to put pepper in your mouth in Greek, obviously. so um so then she So she took him aside and then they pretended to put put pepper in his mouth so it would burn. And then he's like he's like fake screaming.
00:52:09
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And and and she's like, she's like, so she she's like sort bursting into into tears because because this man's like crying. She's like, no, screaming. And and and this guy even put ketchup in his mouth and pretended that it was blood. No, bloody hell.
00:52:39
Speaker
There you go. End of trauma. That is trauma. Roll the credits. That is pure trauma, that is. and you yeah She also mentioned about the swearing, how it's kind of the rules are different in the in the neurodiverse um community.
00:53:04
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which is a point we didn't pick up on, was it really? But it's so true. You're just like the conversations always adore. even You can tell when you're having a conversation with someone who's neurodiverse because the conversation is really fluid and it just like it goes all over the shop.
00:53:24
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And you can swear all you like and it's just like, yeah. The rules are different, aren't they? when it's between conversation between neurodiverse people, which is something I really like. Yeah, yeah.
00:53:39
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Yeah, i mean, like some of the comments that I got on the TikTok was like ah ah one that that ah was from, them oh, blimey, but um but she she was saying, you know, how we use the the the how we use these the C word um in the UK as a term of affection.
00:54:05
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and We'll we' say it. Yeah. To a... to a friend. Yes. could see that, yeah. and And it's like a sort of, a yeah, a term of endearment. Yeah, you that. You can come on, you old bastard.
00:54:23
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Come on. Right. Yeah. That's so English. Yeah, we like all that. another Another thing that that like like Alexandra said is that um When you're swearing in is someone else's language, it doesn't feel like you're swearing.
00:54:40
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That's really true as well. like It feels like, oh, especially if you're living in that country, like I live in Italy, it feels like, oh, the rules aren't made for me.
00:54:53
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Apparently, psychologically, i think it's a similar thing, the kind of connected. If you're living in a foreign country, you're much more likely to break the law.
00:55:04
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Because you think you don't you think that the rules don't apply to you. oh really? Yeah. There you go. you go. Okay. Nice.
00:55:17
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um I will also have to kind of like point out some ah hobbies that have been going ah going around ADHD. So Alexandra's current hobby is she is she's making gnomes for Christmas.
00:55:34
Speaker
For Christmas, okay. Making some gnomes. Yeah, i i I don't know how they've been getting on, but and but I know that that's a thing. um then we've got Then we've got Carol is up in Canada, who who is our Minister of Snacks, and she does a show, so she's doing a lot of crocheting.
00:55:56
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the at the moment and uh and she makes like shawls and little fun things i um nick i love that and she's been working on on hats and things yeah yeah cool so um you she's she's doing very good you mentioning that cow is our minister of snacks i just as you said that i just realized last night that i dreamt of twiglets
00:56:24
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I dreamt snacks. It's my favourite snack, twiglet snack.
00:56:31
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dreamt of them last night. A lot of big, like, bucket of twiglets.
00:56:39
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Nice. God, I love those. I can't imagine it anding any worse. um ah Also, um our our a Minister of Headstuff, Seth,
00:56:52
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um We were talking last week about um ah about about beer and cheese popcorn on it. right with um with with with with popcorn on it And then he was listening to the to the episode and he said, oh, my God, your ADHD soup quiz. I have actually had quite a lot of beer and cheese soup in wi Wisconsin, which is what we said.
00:57:20
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And then he says, OK, I have never had popcorn with my beer and cheese soup. But honestly, that sounds delicious.
00:57:30
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Right. OK. Well, Seth, let us know. us know. you us know. mean, I can see that it could be interesting.
00:57:44
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ah of at least curious. Right. He also says, because ah you you you issued a challenge last week. Yes.
00:57:55
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You said, Oi, come and keep cheating. Yes, I was waiting in the... and mean Well, he he he said also, if Paul wants me to come back on the show and eat beer and cheese soup, with pot um ah it it would be my my my my pleasure. We'll definitely have for that. So at some point, we'll definitely up up when it does have to work out when.
00:58:21
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Name your day. Name your day, Seth. Cool. Yeah, exactly. Cool. Well, I've got a quiz, Marty. you know Go on then. Okay.
00:58:34
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Yeah. I've got quiz. I'm going to have to hack into this into this episode quite a bit, I think. okay Okay. Quite a long one. Let's go on. Quiz time. Let's make it fast. Okay.
00:58:48
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Are you ready? I'm going to read out to you sections. Three. I'm going to read out to you. three um i' going to read out to you Three um hobbies that are real. Three hobbies. Okay. You've got to guess which one is ah which the hobby I've made up.
00:59:10
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Okay. So these are true these are public real hobbies. okay Okay. Only one of one of these three have been made up, and I've got three three sections. Got it.
00:59:23
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First one, mooing competitions. People compete to moo like cows and judges take it very seriously.
00:59:34
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Moo competitions. Second one, antique diaper collections. Okay. what did this People that actually collect antique diapers. Okay.
00:59:49
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Okay. All right. Extreme ironing. Ironing clothes while rock climbing, skydiving, and balancing on a canoe. Extreme ironing. So moving competitions, antique diaper collecting, and extreme ironing.
01:00:05
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which one is Which one of those have I made up? Well, I know that extreme ironing is ah is ah is a thing or was a thing, but that was all over the place a number of years ago. I'm going to say that mooing is also real. I can see, like, country fairs and things, that being a you can have mooing competitions.
01:00:31
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So I think antique diapers is those, like, you've made that up, Paul. I've made that up, Martin. You're full of shit. I've just plucked that out myself. silly little mind. okay Yeah. Pulled out. Out of my arse. Yeah. of my arse. What
Unusual Hobbies of the Famous
01:00:50
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you did. Okay. Next.
01:00:53
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Next one. One of these I've made up, Martin. Toy voyaging. Sending your stuffed animal on international vacations with strangers.
01:01:05
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Wait, what? Toy Voyaging. what' Sending your stuffed animal on international vacations with with strangers.
01:01:15
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Oh, sending your toy out. Okay, yes. Okay, got it. yeah okay Greasy bone throwing. It's apparently very big in Iceland at certain times of the year.
01:01:29
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Greasy bone throwing. Okay. Third one. yeah Competitive duck herding.
01:01:39
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Guiding, simple one, is guiding ducks through obstacle courses.
01:01:45
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oh So, toy boy, jeep. Greasy bone. Competitive duck.
01:01:52
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I think ah toy voyaging, I have heard of that. i have heard of people who have like little things, like a little, like a character or something, and then they'll send it off with people and then they get photographs of their little thing at various places around the world. I've heard of that.
01:02:13
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ah Competitive duck herding sounds like a thing with like as a test, for like herding dogs. I can see that being like a thing.
01:02:26
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So greasy spoon, greasy bone throwing. Yeah, I'm saying you you made that apple. Correct.
01:02:36
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Okay. I'm going to... I'm putting too much of this out of my ass. So, third one, going make it a bit more difficult for you, Marty. Right? You ready? One of these I've made up.
01:02:49
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really Ladybird fighting. Raising Beatles, as in Ladybirds are Beatles, to compete in wrestling matches, which is popular in more than one country. Right? Right?
01:03:05
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All right. Geocaching. Oh, yeah, geocaching. Okay. Worldwide treasure hunting with GPS coordinates. Okay.
01:03:15
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Yeah, that sounds like fun. Third one. Dumpster diving for art supplies.
01:03:22
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Finding discarded objects and then turning them into sculptures.
01:03:28
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Okay. um Firstly, I want to say that dumpster diving obviously is ah is is a thing for art materials, yes. I also saw on the news the other day that there was somewhere in New York, there was a pickle factory or a place that makes pickles, and then there was a pickle dumpster. Right.
01:03:48
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where where they throw all the stuff that didn't make it in the jars. Oh, Jesus. And then people go for that. No. So that's a thing.
01:03:59
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ah Geocaching, obviously, yeah, that's a big kind of hobby. that's that And that sounds like fun. that That is something that I would do for ah a a a a day. So if you if you don't know what geocaching is, it is basically there are little hidden...
01:04:19
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boxes and jars and stuff all like everywhere are just full of random things. And then there's a treasure hunt to try and find them. And then when when you find them, you just kind of put stuff in the – you might take something else and put something in.
01:04:36
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to to just that There's always this stuff to kind of go and – yeah, no, that' that's ah that's a fun thing to do with kids, I think, as well. Yeah, yeah. But the see thing is like beetle – fighting I thought was a thing but not necessarily ladybird fighting but I think beetle fighting was that sounds like a thing I'm going to go with A because you right ladybirds and you're right there is raising beetles does exist but not necessarily ladybird yeah I know he just may ah let me just you're going to sleep well tonight I'm asking the glory
01:05:17
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Oh, you know it. i'm um um You be able to relax. You'd be able to
01:05:25
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yeah better to chill. be Beautiful. Yeah, I know. I should actually count, like, who's in the lead, but I will try and do that for next week just to kind like, see how we're doing. I did have an alternative quiz.
01:05:41
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I've got a list of and i famous people with odd words. Hobbit's butt another time. and I'll give you this one. Angela Jolie collects knives.
01:05:57
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Why does that surprise me? Nicholas Cage, he collects exotic fossils. Who? Nicholas Cage. Oh, Nicholas Cage. Beyonce, she's a beekeeper.
01:06:13
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Tom Hanks collects vintage typewriters. Should I go on? Beyonce. Greta Garbo was truffle hunter.
01:06:25
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Sorry? Truffle hunter. Greta Garbo. Oh, truffle. All right. Well, her and her pigs. Or was it just her on all fours?
Closing Remarks and Kindness Tales
01:06:39
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stuff ah in the forest. um All right. Well, that sounds awesome. All right. Well, let's go go to what are we going to talk about next week?
01:06:56
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And it's my turn. um It's your turn, Martin, yes. as ah thought as we were nearing Christmas, we we did do a Christmas episode last year, so I think we should definitely do a Christmas episode this year. But to kind of like, because we'll be sick of Christmas, and I thought maybe we do like an anti-Christmas episode.
01:07:20
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christmas And we'll do ah ADHD and how to ruin yeah Christmas. So it's all the days, all the times and all the ways that that we can we can really sc screw up Christmas. yeah um So it'll be a fun. Or have screwed up Christmas. So if anyone's got any stories, let us know.
01:07:47
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. it's going to be fun and we're going to be concentrating on the on the stupid stories and yeah it's just going to be a laugh. All right. Okay. All right. All right.
01:07:58
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01:08:26
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lover you can also uh pick up an ear quill and email us at adhdville but in the meantime be fucking kind to yourself and i beseech you fellow adhders fare thee well with gladness of heart
01:08:45
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there says the mayor that's that oh there we go another episode paul In the bag. In the bag. You know what we were saying about Sally Fields being a nice lady?
01:08:58
Speaker
How rich she really, really is.
01:09:02
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She did a film, Mrs Doubtfire, she did with Robin Williams. And he tells a story of how nice she was.
01:09:12
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It's a really nice story because he was having some problems. She shut down production of Mrs Doubtfire because he was having a difficult time. And he she she just said, go home, Robin.
01:09:27
Speaker
go home and we sort it ah it out. Fuck off. She's such a nice lady. Fuck off.
01:09:34
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Aww.