S02E28 - Tash Mic Guys - Arsenal Back in the Title Race and Chelsea's Poor Results

Transcript

Speaker: A lot of shouting yesterday celebrating the win.

Speaker: Yeah, I bet you did as well, to be fair.

Speaker: Well done to you.

Speaker: Well done to you.

Speaker: It was exciting.

Speaker: It was fun.

Speaker: It was a good day, all in all, apart from the drive back down.

Speaker: Yeah, how was that, by the way?

Speaker: Was that a bit of a killer at that time?

Speaker: It was, right, because when we went down there, when we came back down after Christmas, we took the A1, just nice and easy, no dramas yet.

Speaker: Pretty cool.

Speaker: And I was like, all right, nice one.

Speaker: I'll take the A1 back up.

Speaker: you know, standard.

Speaker: So I took the A1 back up and just traffic, traffic, midday traffic.

Speaker: And I was like, nah, this is not acceptable.

Speaker: What time did you leave?

Speaker: It must have been around like 10 or something.

Speaker: In the evening?

Speaker: No, in the morning.

Speaker: It's a Friday, so that's what it would have been.

Speaker: Always leave in the evening, bro.

Speaker: There's no traffic in the evening.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: Well, there it is.

Speaker: Around 7, 8 o'clock, leave.

Speaker: Why didn't you leave Thursday evening if that was the case?

Speaker: Because she was at work.

Speaker: She finished work Friday morning, yeah.

Speaker: So we just set off pretty much straight away.

Speaker: And you finish Friday morning, you still set off.

Speaker: You didn't even give the girl time to sleep and catch up on her sleep.

Speaker: It was planned, by the way.

Speaker: It wasn't just like, oh, by the way, you know, great, you finished work, but let's go now.

Speaker: We're going to travel for hours.

Speaker: Sounds like that.

Speaker: Sounds like I finished work.

Speaker: Let me come home quickly.

Speaker: Shower.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Jump in the car.

Speaker: We're going north.

Speaker: Well, see, that was her choice.

Speaker: The choice was given, I'm afraid.

Speaker: And that's what we do now, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker: We do not put any pressure on the women.

Speaker: You make your own choice.

Speaker: You make your own choice.

Speaker: And fortunately for me, she made the same choices I wanted.

Speaker: But it wasn't fast.

Speaker: It wasn't a fast choice.

Speaker: It was self-inflicted.

Speaker: But yeah, so all in all, it was just a good day, man.

Speaker: Good day.

Speaker: And obviously for you, yeah.

Speaker: I feel bad just to bring it up no you can't bring it up I felt fine I had other priorities to be honest I had a bit of worry the little one wasn't very well so I had to you know had to be a dad rather than a football fan that's fair and it's a fair compromise wasn't it you know priority and I didn't really watch anything there and then we were out and yeah I saw the result and it was like oh 1-0 Chelsea I was like alright sweet then 1-1 I was like alright fuck and then

Speaker: fuck, fuck.

Speaker: And that's why I messaged you as well.

Speaker: I said, fuck my life.

Speaker: And I was like, do you know what?

Speaker: Fuck, no, don't fuck my life.

Speaker: My life is pretty good.

Speaker: Yeah, well, in football terms, we don't care about it.

Speaker: Fuck my team, bro.

Speaker: Like, fuck my team.

Speaker: And currently, yeah, man, I'm in a training course.

Speaker: So I'm in an unknown location, as you can see.

Speaker: Yeah, we don't know where it is.

Speaker: Just standard hotel room somewhere.

Speaker: Just some standard hotel room, that's all it is.

Speaker: Yeah, some standard hotel room.

Speaker: And I thought, who did I meet?

Speaker: I met a Chelsea fan today.

Speaker: And he was like, yeah.

Speaker: I was like, bro, don't even talk to me about Chelsea.

Speaker: I said, don't talk to me.

Speaker: I don't even want to know anything about Chelsea.

Speaker: I want to take a break for the next week.

Speaker: I was like, yeah, no.

Speaker: I didn't watch any footage this weekend, to be honest.

Speaker: I tried to watch a little bit, but I did.

Speaker: Even the Arsenal game, I didn't get a chance to see all of it.

Speaker: I saw bits of it.

Speaker: So I can't even comment.

Speaker: But yeah, no, good for you, though.

Speaker: Must win game.

Speaker: Won it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Got on top of it.

Speaker: We'll get into Chelsea because I watched a bit of highlights, but let's focus on the positive first.

Speaker: How are you feeling?

Speaker: Definitely.

Speaker: How are you feeling?

Speaker: Yeah, it was a pleasant surprise for sure.

Speaker: You know, it was unexpected.

Speaker: Even though I didn't think we were going to get battered or anything like that, it was just unexpected.

Speaker: You know, it was a commanding victory.

Speaker: And that was more impressive, as I've said before.

Speaker: You know, it's the performance that matters really.

Speaker: I know obviously the scoreline, of course, because that's how points are decided.

Speaker: But I'm saying like for longevity wise, it's the performance that matters.

Speaker: So it was it was yeah, it was really good to see, even though you could probably argue that Liverpool didn't have full strength or, you know, a few players missing, a couple of players missing.

Speaker: But, you know, they still had a core

Speaker: base there you know the the strong a stronger 11 anyway it's not like to put the kids out or anything like that so you know it was it it was a majority were experienced players so it it that's what made it feel a little bit nicer for that win so we didn't just beat the kids or whatever you want to call it yeah yeah yeah but uh but obviously you know

Speaker: Some mistakes were made from Liverpool.

Speaker: You probably saw much of the day.

Speaker: You probably saw the goal that it was like, what the fuck?

Speaker: Yeah, but that's not your fault, is it?

Speaker: You forced that error.

Speaker: If you didn't close that down, this is what I call the same as tennis, forced errors.

Speaker: And you forced that error by the pressure.

Speaker: I looked at that game and one thing, obviously I've got a few things to say, but the main thing that I take away from that is you did to Liverpool what Liverpool did to Chelsea four nights ago prior to that game.

Speaker: You know, you didn't let them breathe.

Speaker: They had the ball and could play the Liverpool way of trying to get it out the back.

Speaker: You just pressured them in numbers, you know.

Speaker: You pressured the ball, you pressured the player who could pass the ball too.

Speaker: You pressured the outlet.

Speaker: Honestly, it was incredible to watch.

Speaker: And the bits that I did see, I was like, yeah, fuck, Arsenal look good, which pissed me off, of course.

Speaker: Of course it did, of course it did, yes.

Speaker: You were driving white knuckles all the way to your training like, ah, these bastards.

Speaker: But yeah, no, that's it.

Speaker: And you know, you made errors.

Speaker: Sorry, not you.

Speaker: They made errors.

Speaker: And you made an error as well by obviously, you know, the own goal.

Speaker: Your class is an error.

Speaker: But that's unlucky.

Speaker: The way that happened, it was really unlucky.

Speaker: But no, man, you were fantastic.

Speaker: You were really, really good.

Speaker: I was expecting a bit more from Saka.

Speaker: The bits that I watched, maybe he was excellent.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: But the little bits that I watched, I was like, eh.

Speaker: because he made one pass, I think, in the bit that I caught here.

Speaker: He cut the ball from the right into his left foot and then he tried to pass it to Martinelli and he overhit it.

Speaker: And I was like, you can't overhit those passes like you.

Speaker: And that's, again, snips that I watched.

Speaker: But overall, your team were fantastic.

Speaker: Jorginho was amazing.

Speaker: Jorginho had a great... Highlights only.

Speaker: Highlights only.

Speaker: But Jorginho was fantastic.

Speaker: Havertz was fantastic.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Your whole team was amazing, to be fair, top to bottom.

Speaker: It was... Liverpool, no week.

Speaker: 38 and Jones cannot command the Liverpool midfield.

Speaker: Every time I was watching them, I was thinking of you, Rick.

Speaker: I was like, yeah, yeah, 38 and Jones.

Speaker: Did he do all right?

Speaker: Like, obviously... No, he got taken off.

Speaker: He got taken off, obviously, a bit later on in the second half.

Speaker: And no, he didn't really have an impact, to be honest.

Speaker: And Jones, exactly the same.

Speaker: We just shut the midfield down.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like you said earlier, it was just the constant pressure that we were putting on Liverpool.

Speaker: And then that's what I wanted to see.

Speaker: And that's what I like to see.

Speaker: At no point did I feel, oh, shit, we seem vulnerable anywhere on the field.

Speaker: We are very good right now, even up front with Havertz.

Speaker: you know, it's, it's habits at the end of the day.

Speaker: So I wasn't like expecting a goal or anything, but you know, he did, he did what he needed to do.

Speaker: He was there in the right, in the right places.

Speaker: He made them runs and obviously, you know, the first goal came because of habits receiving a pass down the, down the center.

Speaker: Obviously he didn't score, which I feel like he probably should have finished that, you know, almost one-on-one with the keeper.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, but obviously, you know, the good thing is Saka was there.

Speaker: He finished the, he finished the rebound.

Speaker: And yeah, so, you know, it was a good transition of play to get to that stage, even though, like I said, Havertz probably should have, you know, scored that.

Speaker: It's like, come on, Mike.

Speaker: Yeah, that's it.

Speaker: If you're being picky, like you would pick on those individuals, he should have finished it because any other game, that ball might have gone the opposite side, not on Saka's side.

Speaker: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker: And then all of a sudden he's missed a one-to-one.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But yeah, no, to be fair, it was decent.

Speaker: I'm surprised that Van Dijk making mistakes.

Speaker: Yeah, obviously, you know, the second goal, yeah.

Speaker: I mean, to be fair, Van Dijk, it's not like he had a terrific game at all.

Speaker: He had mistakes in him throughout the whole match.

Speaker: And maybe because, you know, you could say weak link in defense in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

Speaker: You know, he was making runs forward, but as usual, he's not running back.

Speaker: And everyone had to be spaced out.

Speaker: Like, you know, Kanata had to cover up and Van Dijk had to cover up.

Speaker: So it was, you know, it wasn't,

Speaker: It wasn't just him or others, it was very fast errors.

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Speaker: You're back now anyway, so I think you should finish your point.

Speaker: Well, there you go.

Speaker: You've gone again.

Speaker: Frozen up.

Speaker: But you can hear me, right?

Speaker: I can hear you now, yes.

Speaker: Even when I'm frozen, can you hear me when I'm frozen?

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: Oh my God.

Speaker: I think you should probably finish your thought though, you know, before it freezes up again.

Speaker: To be fair, I've lost the thought now.

Speaker: Talking about this thing for so long, I've lost the thought.

Speaker: I don't even know what I was going to say.

Speaker: But yeah, anyway, well done.

Speaker: Commanding victory, great performance.

Speaker: And let's leave it at that.

Speaker: Thank you very much for listening.

Speaker: Have a great evening.

Speaker: Stay safe, stay alone.

Speaker: Catch you on the next one.

Speaker: He's going to smash up the Wi-Fi router right now and just going to storm downstairs at the reception desk.

Speaker: I demand better Wi-Fi.

Speaker: Yeah, man.

Speaker: I was just like, what?

Speaker: What do I pay for?

Speaker: I don't even want the bed.

Speaker: It's just the Wi-Fi.

Speaker: The thing is, I'm not even paying for this.

Speaker: I'm not even paying for this.

Speaker: Oh, that's even worse.

Speaker: Someone stitched you up.

Speaker: Someone stitched me right up.

Speaker: But I came here to this hotel thing because they had the better Wi-Fi.

Speaker: Ah, yeah.

Speaker: uh they advertise it as they had the wifi yeah that's what it is shouldn't believe that wifi hotel shouldn't believe that at all i'm afraid they're lying to you but uh yeah no yeah we were talking about we were talking about the uh the mistakes from uh from liverpool but yeah it was all on on shore really and uh i wanted to ask you that i don't know if you watched it on on match of the day or not but like did you think that was a penalty

Speaker: from McAllister on Havertz.

Speaker: Yeah, 100%.

Speaker: Of course it was a penalty.

Speaker: 100% because I don't know who watched that.

Speaker: It's another time when Liverpool get away with it.

Speaker: It's like, why?

Speaker: Literally, Liverpool.

Speaker: I keep saying Liverpool.

Speaker: It is completely biased towards Liverpool.

Speaker: It is.

Speaker: I'm still disappointed on the Chelsea one that we never got that Connor Gallagher one, but obviously we're over it now.

Speaker: I'm not, but... But no, you're definitely not, and I wouldn't expect you to.

Speaker: I wouldn't expect you to be... Even though we won, I still want to harp on about that because that was a clear penalty.

Speaker: Now imagine if it was nil-nil, or you got beat 1-0, and imagine that penalty didn't get given.

Speaker: Imagine that, right?

Speaker: And you were nil-nil.

Speaker: Let's say Liverpool were dominant, and out of the blue, you get a great shot for a pen, and that never comes... Imagine how that would feel.

Speaker: You don't know how it feels because it hasn't happened to you, but imagine how that would feel.

Speaker: the heartbreak and the anger that you would have felt at the fact that the referee was just... Fair enough, the ref.

Speaker: But somebody at VAR never picks it up.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, they've literally got the power of replay as well.

Speaker: They've got the power of just the leg, you know...

Speaker: go back like rewind oh let me just do that literally yeah bro like you've got the pause in live tv you can do that with a skybox like how can you not do your var when it's like they are using skybox but the wi-fi there but the wi-fi there as well maybe the wi-fi is like the wi-fi i have yeah it's like bt the bastards but i felt literally the way to compare it to you is what you felt when newcastle scored that goal

Speaker: and the ball wasn't out.

Speaker: Yeah, and West Ham.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, but more Newcastle because it first happened to you because West Ham probably a little still angry, but the first time.

Speaker: Yeah, we still used to it.

Speaker: It's all right.

Speaker: It was the first one.

Speaker: It was the first one.

Speaker: You would have been like,

Speaker: the injustice that you would have felt and be like, what?

Speaker: Yeah, it was.

Speaker: That's why I cursed them.

Speaker: That's why I cursed them for a long time.

Speaker: Don't blame me.

Speaker: But maybe I cursed Liverpool.

Speaker: No, I haven't.

Speaker: I don't really care.

Speaker: If you did, that'd be amazing, by the way.

Speaker: But, you know, that's fine.

Speaker: That's fine if you want to help a fellow Londoner.

Speaker: Team, I mean, obviously.

Speaker: No, I don't know what you mean.

Speaker: I can't see.

Speaker: I'll be honest with you, bro.

Speaker: Obviously, anything can happen.

Speaker: There's only three points, two points.

Speaker: But, yeah, I can't...

Speaker: I think Liverpool are not going to win.

Speaker: I still think City, simply because Liverpool and Arsenal have got a couple of draws on them, and City, from experience, can go on an unbelievable winning streak at the minute, and we'll see.

Speaker: But tonight, they played tonight against... Brentford.

Speaker: Against Brentford.

Speaker: I think it's Brentford away, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah, Brentford away.

Speaker: It should be a decent game, but...

Speaker: Yeah, no, it'll be interesting.

Speaker: I'm glad Arsenal won simply because it keeps the title race wide open.

Speaker: Because if it didn't, it'll go back to that two-horse race, City and another team.

Speaker: You know, every year it's like City and another team.

Speaker: City, Arsenal, last year, City, Liverpool the year before.

Speaker: It's always just City and another team.

Speaker: And this way, having a three-horse race would make that battle between City and Arsenal.

Speaker: Those games coming up, oh, what a great game this will be because both teams have something to win, you know?

Speaker: And...

Speaker: No, I'm excited.

Speaker: I'm excited to see what it does.

Speaker: Because to be fair, this is the only way I get my excitement now.

Speaker: Of course, yeah.

Speaker: You have to be a neutral now.

Speaker: No, we'll talk about my team, to be fair.

Speaker: It's a good segue quickly into it.

Speaker: Did you watch it?

Speaker: Because I think you watched the Chelsea game or were you partially watching it?

Speaker: I watched bits of it.

Speaker: I watched the Col Palma's goal, which I thought, oh, all right, okay, this could be interesting now.

Speaker: I think they could probably go score a couple more.

Speaker: And then I just looked at my phone and it was like 3-1.

Speaker: I thought, what?

Speaker: What happened in between that?

Speaker: Where am I?

Speaker: Yeah, no, what happened in between that?

Speaker: Because it just seemed like, you know, you got the goal, you were doing all right, and it's like, all right, cool, let's carry on.

Speaker: But apparently you just folded like a cheap suit.

Speaker: I don't understand how neither, mate, because I watched that again, speaking from highlights only.

Speaker: That Cole Palmer goal was a great movement.

Speaker: Like, Caicedo with a pass, Palmer with a run from deep, and it's basically what I've been crying out for.

Speaker: By the way, the only good thing that Caicedo did all match, by the way.

Speaker: I saw the highlights, bro.

Speaker: He was awful.

Speaker: How many mistakes did he make?

Speaker: How many mistakes did that guy make?

Speaker: And he's got that in him.

Speaker: Like, I don't understand how, like, there's no consistency with him.

Speaker: We had two games, maybe two game, three game, but I don't even class that as consistency.

Speaker: But let's say for the sake of the argument, he had three games consistency.

Speaker: And all of a sudden, did he think he was world class again?

Speaker: So this game he switched off.

Speaker: I just don't understand how that is possible.

Speaker: How can you be so bad and then be average and then just drop drastically?

Speaker: But yeah, anyway, what I was saying was I saw that movement.

Speaker: I was like, oh yeah, okay, we're on to something.

Speaker: We need a reaction after that Liverpool game where we were spineless.

Speaker: Let's do something in front of our fans.

Speaker: And we're just spineless again.

Speaker: And different start in XI.

Speaker: You think to yourself, okay, now what's going on?

Speaker: There is no... At what point do you point the fingers at the manager and now I'm starting to?

Speaker: We're in February and we're still 11th.

Speaker: with no European football.

Speaker: Okay, people are going to say you had injuries, you had injuries.

Speaker: I understand we had injuries.

Speaker: Everybody gets injuries, but how do you adapt to those injuries?

Speaker: You've got players on there who are international players.

Speaker: Okay, they're young.

Speaker: We're going to hear that argument.

Speaker: Oh, they're young.

Speaker: And I've made this argument.

Speaker: We're transitioning.

Speaker: But what point does it not become transitioning?

Speaker: You know, like last year was all we're transitioning.

Speaker: We got Pochettino.

Speaker: He had a preseason with him.

Speaker: You're like, OK, fine.

Speaker: Because you can make that argument.

Speaker: We've got Graham Potter halfway through.

Speaker: He doesn't know the players.

Speaker: It's not his team.

Speaker: Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker: Whereas Pochettino actually got a preseason.

Speaker: Pochettino got a preseason, got the full time to work with the team.

Speaker: We looked OK in preseason.

Speaker: Nguku got injured and as if all of our hopes fell and we're like, did we rest everything on this one player?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Apparently so.

Speaker: Well, apparently so.

Speaker: Played against Liverpool that opening day.

Speaker: All right, not too bad.

Speaker: And then that all go, sorry, Chukomenka got injured against Southampton and we got beat.

Speaker: And then everything just went downhill after that.

Speaker: And I was thinking, how have we gone so bad?

Speaker: And the main thing is we look tactic and what's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker: Like we haven't got a clue.

Speaker: That's the word.

Speaker: Let's just go with that simple layman term.

Speaker: We haven't got a clue what we're doing.

Speaker: It's, we're just sideways football.

Speaker: I was telling my dad this, he was like, oh, we got beat.

Speaker: I was like, no, I said, I just watched the highlights today when I was chatting with him.

Speaker: And I said,

Speaker: Every time we got the ball, he was sideways, sideways and back, sideways and back because nobody else moves.

Speaker: You can't even blame the person making the pass because there's no movement up front or no movement in midfield.

Speaker: And then who do you point the finger at?

Speaker: You point the finger at the manager.

Speaker: Why is there no movement?

Speaker: What are we doing?

Speaker: What is our aim?

Speaker: At least Thomas Tuchel came in and he was like, we're transitioning phases.

Speaker: I want to see movements in the right, transition to the left, up front, etc.

Speaker: You see Liverpool, you see Arsenal, the balls on this side.

Speaker: You had a great one-touch ball, I think, when you scored because the commentator mentioned your match of the day and he said, only one player touched the ball twice.

Speaker: And I was like,

Speaker: That's what they're trying to do.

Speaker: That's why it's one touch to make it faster and move.

Speaker: Why can't we do that?

Speaker: Okay, not to that level.

Speaker: Not yet, maybe, but why not?

Speaker: You know, like, what is this manager doing?

Speaker: He's got more experience.

Speaker: But again, I point fingers at the manager now.

Speaker: I'm kind of beyond thinking it's the, yes, it's the players, but I've got a feeling.

Speaker: Do you remember, to give you an analogy, do you remember that teacher at school, maybe you had it, maybe you didn't have it, but who was trying to be pally pally with everyone and nobody respected him?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Or her?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: There was that one person who was like friendly with everybody, down with the kids, trying to be too cool for school, and nobody respected him.

Speaker: Whereas the teacher who was strict, shouted,

Speaker: gave you a bollocking, you were like, oh, no, I can't misbehave in his lesson.

Speaker: I respect.

Speaker: Respect, yeah.

Speaker: Respect and fear.

Speaker: Even when he came to prom, you respected that guy more, or that glass, more than the guy who was giving you all paly-pally and, yeah, you can do whatever.

Speaker: And you're thinking, no, but I don't want to do whatever.

Speaker: I'm a child.

Speaker: You need to tell me what to do.

Speaker: I'm at school.

Speaker: I don't want you to give me this freedom.

Speaker: It's the direction that I need, yeah.

Speaker: I think that's the thing with Poch at the minute he gets to start in 11.

Speaker: He's like, yeah, go have fun.

Speaker: Like what?

Speaker: Like a hippie holistic way of fucking training your players.

Speaker: Like all hipster stuff.

Speaker: You're right.

Speaker: Hippie holistic way of doing it.

Speaker: I remember against Middlesbrough, Cole Palmer did something and the manager turned around and said to him and then Cole Palmer turned around with a face of disgust and anger at his face and he went, what are you talking about or what is going on about?

Speaker: Like that.

Speaker: And I thought like, does he not respect the manager?

Speaker: He might not have been talking to Pochard.

Speaker: I'll never forget it.

Speaker: If that guy does that,

Speaker: he'll be off straight away because you can't do that to a Fergie you can't do that to Arteta definitely not a Klopp or a flipping Guardiola you can't do that to any of these managers so why would you allow that to happen yes he's our top scorer you take him off you teach the rest of them a lesson my way or the highway because at the end of the day you're the one getting sacked these players will continue playing and

Speaker: and it's i don't even feel sorry for him now he needs he needs to grow a backbone and just you can't keep coming out saying oh with this with that no you need to come out and say we're shit we were he even said he even said in the in this post-match conference like interview he said that you know i'm i can't keep saying that we need more time we need more time so yeah because yeah patience is not infinite or something like yeah yeah that's bullshit like don't come out and give me like what i want to hear like i can't keep saying we need more time but that's all you keep doing is coming out saying

Speaker: Oh, we need time.

Speaker: We're a young team.

Speaker: Yeah, that's just another way of saying we need time.

Speaker: Oh, that starting XI, who's injured?

Speaker: Apart from Rhys James, who else is injured on that starting XI?

Speaker: Okay, Colwell maybe, because Colwell would have played.

Speaker: Fafana, another defender, but we haven't had Fafana for two years.

Speaker: We paid 80 million for him.

Speaker: He comes in for a game and then ACL goes.

Speaker: His ACL's made of paper, like a wet paper.

Speaker: And you think, how is this guy?

Speaker: Can somebody put some private fiber in there?

Speaker: Yeah, literally.

Speaker: Half-ripped paper, man.

Speaker: Do you know what?

Speaker: Half-Rip, those papers that you get in your maths book or something, it's got the holes.

Speaker: So it's only connected at some point.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: You know which ones I mean?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I don't know the technical name for it, but yeah.

Speaker: And you can't blame this anymore now.

Speaker: Apart from this time 11, now we can.

Speaker: Reece James is probably the only one missing.

Speaker: Thiago's there.

Speaker: De Sasse's there.

Speaker: Buddy Schiele's on the bench.

Speaker: Mudrick is playing.

Speaker: Sterling's in.

Speaker: Palmer's in.

Speaker: I'm sorry for listening to more lobby.

Speaker: Now you start to realise how ridiculous the excuse of injuries is.

Speaker: Jackson comes in he had a header the other day again starting the highlights and everyone's like how the fuck did he miss that he was two yards out with a header and he put it wide

Speaker: Yeah, no, it's, you know, it's everything that we discuss every week, but with added shit on top of it, really.

Speaker: It's like, you know, here's an extra edition of how bad these guys were.

Speaker: Now I've kind of had enough though, mate, because it's not just the guys now.

Speaker: Now I feel sorry for the guys because I think the manager's just clueless.

Speaker: I think the guys want to have direction, but this holistic hipster approach as we just labeled it now is, it's not working for them.

Speaker: You know, you know yourself if you're at school, oh, here's a textbook, get the information.

Speaker: That only happens at university when you pay nine grand.

Speaker: Like, here's a question.

Speaker: Go find out.

Speaker: Go write me 2,000 words.

Speaker: Is there any teaching happening?

Speaker: Yeah, you teach yourself at the library and wherever you want, but don't forget to do your referencing.

Speaker: Yeah, self-teaching.

Speaker: Like, what the fuck?

Speaker: I'm going to pay nine grand for this year.

Speaker: But yeah, three grand for now with time, but now it's nine grand.

Speaker: But no, that's the bit that we're at.

Speaker: That's the bit that we're at.

Speaker: I'm at with him now.

Speaker: I'm thinking, what are you doing?

Speaker: Like, what are you actually working with these players on the training ground?

Speaker: He said he tried to make Ben Chilwell better.

Speaker: Ben Chilwell's got worse.

Speaker: I know he come back from injury, but he only does one cross a game.

Speaker: How are you making Chilwell better?

Speaker: You've got two defensive midfielders.

Speaker: If Ben Chilwell attacks, just get one of them to drop back.

Speaker: Can I say it, though, just to say drop back, will you, for a bit?

Speaker: Just hang fire.

Speaker: But he doesn't.

Speaker: Maybe that's where the problem is, isn't it?

Speaker: He probably only knows one or two formations, and when they don't work, that's it.

Speaker: Like you said, there is no more ideas because...

Speaker: then he's got to go, hasn't he?

Speaker: He has to go.

Speaker: No, no, I agree, I agree.

Speaker: If that's the case, he has to go.

Speaker: Okay, right, we've said this before, right, he goes now, who are you bringing in?

Speaker: Like, even as a caretaker manager, that's, that's going to, that's going to disrupt, is that going to disrupt more?

Speaker: I don't know, I mean.

Speaker: Massive disruption, it's already there, but you just never know what's going on.

Speaker: I think, to be honest with you, man, like, I heard this, and this is not a bad shout, but I think,

Speaker: it'll ruin some of our players, but I think we need an old school in there.

Speaker: We need somebody with some balls.

Speaker: We need somebody with a bit of respect.

Speaker: We need somebody maybe like Van Gaal, who's their ex-Real Madrid who gave up the Spanish job.

Speaker: Laporte, Laporte, is it his name?

Speaker: Who was at Wolves a couple of years ago, then got sacked?

Speaker: Yeah, I'd love to take you.

Speaker: Maybe him, I don't know his name exactly, but yeah, maybe him.

Speaker: Mourinho, bring Mourinho back and just to like, just put a bit of thing into these players because these young players need some guidance because

Speaker: Pochettino's letting them be free and having free young millionaires, they're not going to go to try and get injured.

Speaker: They're not going to play for the badge.

Speaker: They're going to play to get a salary and then be like, I don't really want to get injured now because obviously I want to go do this thing.

Speaker: And rightly so.

Speaker: Nobody wants to get injured.

Speaker: But if you go with the mind of not getting injured, you get injured.

Speaker: When you go in wholeheartedly, 100% commitment, you come out the other end.

Speaker: You may win the ball, you may not, but you come out unscathed.

Speaker: And yeah, we need somebody old school, a Gus Hiddink possibly coming back.

Speaker: somebody to come in and just to be like you know what like this is how it's going to be done because we can't have this potch is i feel like the players do not respect him after watching that cole palmer one i genuinely genuinely felt like who the fuck is he talking to like who is he talking to like that like you know like i'm you know we've got out work if somebody speaks to you like that and you're you know you're their boss who are you talking to yeah yeah you know there's a way of approaching me but that's that's where i'm currently at with this chelsea team and

Speaker: I'll watch it because I'm a fan and I'll be fully invested and emotionally invested.

Speaker: But it just pisses me off seeing our rivals do so well and we've fallen so far behind.

Speaker: It's not even like we're behind.

Speaker: We are so far behind.

Speaker: It's going to take quite a big rebuilding to be fair.

Speaker: Whoever it is.

Speaker: Another billion it's going to take.

Speaker: It's going to take another billion.

Speaker: Unless you can manage to shift some players on for a lot cheaper price, obviously.

Speaker: We won't.

Speaker: Nobody wants to leave an eight-year contract at 100 grand a week.

Speaker: Let's say Mudrick and Lenzo, especially Mudrick from what we've seen, where's he getting another 100 grand a week from?

Speaker: You've just got players sat on your bench, though, haven't you?

Speaker: That's all they are.

Speaker: They're sat in the squad somewhere.

Speaker: but exactly but they're not going to want to move it the player will have the right for them not to move it's not like the states where nfl you've been trading you just like you know chop and change when you want because you own the player like physically own them it's more like oh yeah i give you permission to speak to so and so my agent is going to talk to west ham for example oh they're only willing to pay me 50 now i'll stay at 100 grand i'll say 120 the manager will leave somebody else will come in and i'll have another go and that's

Speaker: And I feel like that is the mentality.

Speaker: And that's just the way it's been.

Speaker: Literally, that's the way it's been.

Speaker: No change has been made.

Speaker: It's the same players that play.

Speaker: It doesn't matter which manager has been on, apart from Tuchel, obviously, who had some fucking clue on how to get the team together.

Speaker: What we need, to be honest with you, what I'd love, right, would be Javi Alonso.

Speaker: but he'll go to Liverpool before he comes to Chelsea, especially with Klopp leaving.

Speaker: Because what he's done in Germany is phenomenal.

Speaker: Absolutely phenomenal.

Speaker: I think they're unbeaten by Leverkusen in all competition.

Speaker: So that just goes to show, and the football they're playing is fantastic.

Speaker: They're ahead of Bayern Munich on the Bundesliga by, I don't know, by, I think, two points or four points or even five.

Speaker: I don't even know how many points they're ahead.

Speaker: You just need Granit Xhaka, mate.

Speaker: That's all he needs.

Speaker: You need these though.

Speaker: Like Todd Bowley fucked us over because he's no experience.

Speaker: You need a Granit Jacker in your team.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: He might get a red card now and again, but you need him in your team.

Speaker: You need that level of aggression.

Speaker: You need that level of physicality.

Speaker: You know, you can't keep having fair.

Speaker: It's the leadership on the, on the pitch.

Speaker: That's what it is.

Speaker: That's what you need.

Speaker: And when you see him going in and then he'll look at you and be like, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker: You need to go in for it.

Speaker: don't chicken out all that challenge 50-50 you go in Gallagher does that but Gallagher is still young he doesn't really talk you need a Granit Jackie you need an Olivier Giroud you know and we go back and said I was talking to this lad today and I said oh we had youths then and he was like yeah we did bring some youths in but who did we have in the spine I was like mate don't even talk to me about who we used to have in the spine because that was a dream team for us knowing where we are now like with Cech, JT, Lamps, Didier, Ashley you think to yourself fucking hell that is a team but

Speaker: we are long, long, long away from that.

Speaker: And to be honest with you, I'm ready for this.

Speaker: We are a mid table team.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: If you get conference league, it's a celebration to be like, Oh, we've got European football.

Speaker: And that's how far behind we've fallen.

Speaker: Now we're just a name.

Speaker: We're no longer the team.

Speaker: We're just a name.

Speaker: Chelsea versus Man City.

Speaker: It's like seeing Chelsea versus Crystal Palace.

Speaker: That's, oh, it pains me to say.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's right.

Speaker: It's not disrespect to Palace or Brighton or any other team, but you know, it,

Speaker: It's not like what in recent history, Chelsea, man, that's it without trying to go remind people.

Speaker: But Todd Ball, Todd Ball is fucked is over.

Speaker: Todd Ball is fucked.

Speaker: I don't know whether he's got like some hidden agenda.

Speaker: And then we get relegated and be like, ah, fuck you, bitch.

Speaker: Then he goes, takes over Arsenal or something.

Speaker: Takes over Arsenal.

Speaker: It turns out he's an Arsenal fan.

Speaker: He's got a tattoo of Arsenal and is inside his thigh or some shit that nobody.

Speaker: And is in a ass cheek.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You don't know which one.

Speaker: Love that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: that's it that's uh we do something like that i'm hoping i don't know rick rick it's uh it's you know i feel like you need therapy when it comes to talking about chelsea because it's uh it it's a massive downfall and you know like we we've discussed it so many times and the the blame just keeps sort of getting passed around but

Speaker: When does it stop?

Speaker: That's the question, really.

Speaker: Where does it stop?

Speaker: Rather than when, where does it stop?

Speaker: Who has responsibility for this team now?

Speaker: Who's stepping in to look after this team?

Speaker: Because, you know, Borle clearly doesn't know how to.

Speaker: And the people that he's bringing in, they just want to be yes-men.

Speaker: And the people who try to obviously say something, they get sacked.

Speaker: And that's the problem because, like you said, that's why I don't think a Mourinho would ever work in this Chelsea...

Speaker: uh squad right now when you consider management because you know he'll want to do things the way that he does like if he wants to tell a hundred million pound player to sit down because he's shit he he needs the right to do that rather than be like oh no well the owner actually you know may want him to play all the time because we pay this much money so get the best out of him and say well no this is literally his limit you you cannot go any further with this guy and mudrick is rapidly reaching that that stage by the way you know

Speaker: it's not just him it's Kaysedo as well mate like Kaysedo 115 like I know he's been what eight months in Chelsea team and he's been awful like Mudrik we talk about Mudrik as well because we had high hopes for him again like that 22nd cameo that he did against Liverpool oh wow and then all of a sudden we're like oh wow oh really yeah and same with same with Kaysedo everybody was saying everybody I mean Chelsea fans were like oh we definitely needed Kaysedo in that midfield and N'Goku on top and Jackson scoring goals and

Speaker: And maybe it is.

Speaker: Maybe it's the management, but you're right.

Speaker: Mourinho come in, he needs to have full authority to do what he wants, how he wants it.

Speaker: And you've got to give the reins over.

Speaker: You have to give him the driving seat and say, take the club where you want.

Speaker: Mourinho tells a story of when he took over, when Abramovich here, and he said, Abramovich said, who do you want?

Speaker: Shevchenko, Lehmann listing strikers here, there, and everywhere.

Speaker: Mourinho went, I want Didier Drogba.

Speaker: I don't know if you've heard this story.

Speaker: And then Abramovich is like, who?

Speaker: And he's like, don't ask Mr. Abramovich, just pay.

Speaker: And the rest is history.

Speaker: So,

Speaker: That's what you've got to have.

Speaker: Fergie did it, Arteta's doing it at Arsenal, Pep, Guardiola, Klopp.

Speaker: They're all being trusted to take the club forward and the management are dealing with the management side of the business rather than the footballing aspect.

Speaker: Todd Ball is trying to do everything or has been doing everything and this is kind of the result of where you have one guy for it all.

Speaker: This is those kind of tradesmen.

Speaker: You need a specialist for the electricity, you need a specialist for Carpenton, you need a specialist for bricklaying and so on.

Speaker: You don't have one guy who says on his van, handyman.

Speaker: Yeah, handyman.

Speaker: That handyman's not going to build you your extension and have it the way it does.

Speaker: He will, but it's not going to be great.

Speaker: It's not going to be the best.

Speaker: You can't ask for good quality anyway or good products.

Speaker: I'll go to you guys, Arsene.

Speaker: Just look at our neighbours.

Speaker: From all or nothing, you back the manager.

Speaker: You don't care how much money the player's on or what kind of brand he is or how he's viewed.

Speaker: you know, you back the manager because that's where success is going to come from because one bad apple, a Bama Young got taken out and now you guys, honestly, I'm so jealous, bro.

Speaker: I'm so jealous.

Speaker: You have no idea.

Speaker: There you go, folks.

Speaker: You heard it.

Speaker: Arsenal playing well.

Speaker: Do you know what else pisses me off?

Speaker: Spurs playing well.

Speaker: Arsenal and Spurs playing well and fucking, and like being above us, like so far above us to the point that we can't even see those motherfuckers.

Speaker: We're like, is that a white and a red dot?

Speaker: What's going on over there in the distance?

Speaker: What is that?

Speaker: That's where you guys are at.

Speaker: And then Liverpool simply because of social groups and stuff like, you know, when you talk to your friends, they're like, oh, yeah, I'm a Liverpool fan.

Speaker: Liverpool have been good for a while, though.

Speaker: I know, but still, it still annoys you when you're that bad.

Speaker: Why are Liverpool being good if we're fourth?

Speaker: Because we're like, oh, I can continue with the transitioning thing again.

Speaker: I can make that argument.

Speaker: I can push that out for a couple of years.

Speaker: We're not transitioning anymore.

Speaker: The only way we transition is flipping backwards.

Speaker: We're 11th in the league.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And that performance against those guys, it was just awful.

Speaker: We just switched off.

Speaker: Like you said, you took it.

Speaker: And this is the last thing I'll say.

Speaker: Like you say, I was like, like you, 1-0, 1-1.

Speaker: I was like, all right, we'll see what happens.

Speaker: And then I saw 3-1, and then I saw 4-1.

Speaker: I was like, am I in another universe?

Speaker: What multiverse am I in here where walls of Contest Stanford Bridge and 1-4-1 on the back of the performance we had at Anfield?

Speaker: Apparently since 1979, by the way, they hadn't done that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Gary O'Neill doing his bits, man.

Speaker: He wasn't even born the last time Wolves won.

Speaker: He wasn't even born at the time.

Speaker: No, he's been terrific.

Speaker: But again, I'm cautious of hyping these managers up for like top Premier League clubs.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: By the way, yeah, I'm not saying you should go to Chelsea.

Speaker: No, no, he's still got a lot of time.

Speaker: I'm sure you are saying that, but I'm saying no, do not come to Chelsea.

Speaker: Well, you know, you never know.

Speaker: But no, you're right.

Speaker: Obviously, if they're not going to respect fucking Pochettino, who's at least got some sort of resume behind him, they're not going to respect fucking Gary O'Neal.

Speaker: Yeah, especially Todd Ball.

Speaker: He's not going to respect someone called Gary, so... We might need an Eric.

Speaker: We might need a Ten Hag in there.

Speaker: Oh, shit.

Speaker: No, you don't.

Speaker: You don't.

Speaker: No, we definitely don't.

Speaker: We definitely don't.

Speaker: You don't need that buzzer.

Speaker: Who is out there, by the way?

Speaker: Let me ask you.

Speaker: Who is out there?

Speaker: Obviously, without being biased towards this and giving me silly answers,

Speaker: If Chelsea sacked Pochettino tonight, who is out there to come to Chelsea?

Speaker: Apart from Jose Mourinho, who was jobless because he got sacked by Roma.

Speaker: And obviously I think... Clop at the end of the season.

Speaker: Clop at the end of the season for a year or two.

Speaker: Just fill his pockets.

Speaker: This is the thing though, man.

Speaker: Whoever comes to Chelsea, they know we've got to struggle and there's no transfer kitty.

Speaker: We've got to raise 100 million so that we don't get financial fair play.

Speaker: So we've got four months to raise 100 million in profit, by the way.

Speaker: In profit.

Speaker: This is not to sell players for 100 million.

Speaker: in profit alone, it's got to be 100 million.

Speaker: So that's, that's Academy players.

Speaker: That's not, nothing else is out there.

Speaker: Lewis Hall will probably go to Newcastle and get a permanent, but, but then, this news coming out, the clubs are going to be like, ah, 25 million pound player, I'll give you 10.

Speaker: Because you're desperate, so you've got to take the 10.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Of,

Speaker: trying to negotiate 15 because nobody's going to come in for the Chelsea play.

Speaker: For non-Chelsea fans, you know, we look forward to that for sure.

Speaker: We can't wait for that to happen.

Speaker: It's going to be amazing.

Speaker: I can't wait until you turn into a Barcelona and then start changing, what is it, selling the stadium naming rights?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And be called three stadiums or some shit like that.

Speaker: And you're never going to see the third spot ever, to be fair.

Speaker: So we look forward to that.

Speaker: We look forward to that, really.

Speaker: And, you know, we dream about these scenarios and these moments.

Speaker: And yet they're so close.

Speaker: So, you know, it's all nice.

Speaker: It's that bad.

Speaker: But Rick, obviously, you know, we're trying to, because both of our teams played on Sunday, we're trying to keep this one a bit shorter.

Speaker: We're trying to average out the overall episode.

Speaker: It's too much.

Speaker: But I did want to add one thing, though.

Speaker: I don't know if you saw it.

Speaker: Like at the end of the at the end of the Arsenal match.

Speaker: Did you see Klopp hugging Odegaard?

Speaker: I like I like that kind of shit.

Speaker: it's Klopp's character, isn't it?

Speaker: I like that shit.

Speaker: Even when Martinelli was subbed off, he went and gave him a high five and shit and I was, I like that and he's, that's why he's respected as a manager because he likes the players, you know, he likes players.

Speaker: He's like, yeah, he appreciates, yeah, you're a talent.

Speaker: He appreciates football, yeah, that's it, literally, he loves football.

Speaker: You can tell, like, he likes quality players or he will respect and show you, give you the respect and also the praise that you deserve after a quality performance.

Speaker: I remember when Eddie Howe was at Bournemouth and they,

Speaker: Bournemouth scored against Liverpool.

Speaker: I think it was like 4-1.

Speaker: And Bournemouth just got that goal back.

Speaker: And he turned to the management team and he went, wow.

Speaker: Just wow.

Speaker: And you've got to see that, man.

Speaker: Come on, be serious.

Speaker: This is why I love Klopp.

Speaker: For me, Klopp is quality.

Speaker: Guardiola first, of course, because of what he's achieved.

Speaker: But yeah, definitely.

Speaker: But one thing I wanted to ask you, what did you think about the celebration?

Speaker: Obviously, I put my two pence in on the group chat.

Speaker: But I was thinking like, bro, that was over the top.

Speaker: I'm going to have to put sirens.

Speaker: I'm going to have to put sirens on here because the celebration police are obviously out in full effect.

Speaker: No, definitely.

Speaker: I was just thinking to myself like it was just so necessary.

Speaker: Listen, the victory was fantastic.

Speaker: The victory was fantastic.

Speaker: Yeah, it was an amazing victory.

Speaker: But like, you know, be a bit more hopeful.

Speaker: So let us celebrate it.

Speaker: Yeah, but then what are you going to do if you win the league?

Speaker: What's your next celebration?

Speaker: Because that is winning the league celebration or winning a trophy.

Speaker: Odegaard, I saw him pick up a camera and start taking a picture of the guy who takes the pictures.

Speaker: I was thinking, what's this fucking day away?

Speaker: Like, what's he doing?

Speaker: Like, that is over the top kind of shit.

Speaker: Like, listen, you won three points.

Speaker: At the end of the day, it's a three points.

Speaker: Yes, it's against the current rivals.

Speaker: Yes, it's against the top of the league.

Speaker: Yes, you are currently in the title race.

Speaker: Sounds amazing, right?

Speaker: There isn't a trophy for anything.

Speaker: That's all right.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I'd rather have the celebration than keep constantly losing 4-0 and 4-2s and shit like that.

Speaker: So I'm just saying... I'm going to call you a Liverpool fan.

Speaker: I'm going to call you a Liverpool fan.

Speaker: Let's just put it into context though, right?

Speaker: Let's just put it into context.

Speaker: This is coming from a Chelsea fan who has lost the last two matches and emphatically lost the last two matches and sat in a position where, again, a victory to you now...

Speaker: even you wouldn't celebrate a victory from Chelsea because you're like, all right, OK, next match, let's see what you can fucking do, because do you see what I mean?

Speaker: So I just put it into context and

Speaker: the fact that the fact that all the celebration for me was like the fact that we went from from uh losing streak just before christmas or during the new year's period and again it just looked bleak to be fair it's like shit we've we're gonna miss out again because of whatever reason you know the player management or whatever it is and then to come back and you know actually beat liverpool in a season where we've drawn against them and then beat them and we've already beat man city once this season look it's

Speaker: You have to celebrate.

Speaker: No, but you didn't celebrate like that against City.

Speaker: I don't understand why you celebrate like that against the... Because Liverpool are a direct, like you said, direct rival right now.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Yes, City have got two games in hand and let's just face it, they probably are going to win both those matches.

Speaker: But, you know, right now, I'd rather have the points than two games in hand because anything can fucking happen.

Speaker: So my point being, my point being is like, you know, that is, that is worth celebrating because I feel it's more a celebration of the progress that the team's made rather than just beating Liverpool in that match.

Speaker: It's, it's just to show that, look, you know, I said to, I said to the board, I've said to the fans that I'm going to lead this team to something special.

Speaker: And look, these are little steps that, yeah, of course I fucking celebrate that shit.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: I would.

Speaker: Bro, nobody said don't celebrate you.

Speaker: I think you misunderstood me, but I think the level of celebration was too far.

Speaker: I think it was beyond.

Speaker: I think it was very much when Klopp took over Liverpool at the first time and they got knocked out in the semi-parallel Europa Cup where everybody started holding hands and they go to the Klopp end and they raise their arms up like, so, way, way.

Speaker: And I was thinking to myself, like, what the fuck is it?

Speaker: Maybe I was wrong for Klopp then because obviously years to come, he won something.

Speaker: But even like to the level of the celebration that you guys did and Arteta, listen, Arteta can do that because it's fine because obviously you beat Liverpool and you're back in the racing.

Speaker: But the rest of the team, I just felt to myself.

Speaker: For me, I was like, that's over the top, lads.

Speaker: Like you really haven't won anything yet.

Speaker: You've won three points.

Speaker: It's the same three points that you could win against.

Speaker: Brighton, Chelsea.

Speaker: It's not those because, again, those teams are not top of the table right now.

Speaker: No, no, they're not top of the table.

Speaker: But still, it's three points, bro.

Speaker: Like, if you don't win anything this year, like, let's say you don't win anything this year.

Speaker: You don't win the league this year.

Speaker: Okay, you're not favourites to win it.

Speaker: You could win it.

Speaker: You've got a very high chance of winning it, but you're not favourites.

Speaker: But let's say you don't win anything this year.

Speaker: then what's it going to be?

Speaker: Like, oh, let's hold on to that time.

Speaker: Yeah, I know, but shit, that's like predicting the future, though, isn't it?

Speaker: That's like predicting the future.

Speaker: No, it's true, but like still, that's the level of celebration.

Speaker: Get your head in the game.

Speaker: Enjoy the celebration.

Speaker: It's like, for me, it's like as if, like, you know, you go on a night out after, you've got a victory or something, you go on a night out to celebrate with your boys, and you get absolutely plastered because you think tomorrow...

Speaker: tomorrow's fine tomorrow's problem is tomorrow but then that kind of spills over and same thing with the celebration I felt you over celebrated the cockiness might have got into it I don't know I could be wrong maybe the players are different maybe Arteta's got the psychological hold on these players enjoy the moment as soon as it gets in the change room it's like nigh celebration finished we focus on the next game which is West Ham or whoever you've got that's what I mean I don't know I don't think so but just there is just like because you did the same last year I don't know who you beat last year and you got I think it was your draw with or your 3-2 against Bournemouth

Speaker: Yeah, when we came back.

Speaker: Yeah, when we came back, when Nelson scored.

Speaker: And I understand that.

Speaker: And it's fine.

Speaker: The moment of like 45 seconds to five minutes.

Speaker: Spoken like a fan whose team hasn't won in a while.

Speaker: So I think you forgot what a celebration is.

Speaker: It's fine.

Speaker: Our first season is the same as your season.

Speaker: Trophy-less.

Speaker: No, it's fine, though.

Speaker: It's all right.

Speaker: No, it's cool.

Speaker: It's cool.

Speaker: Like I said, for me... Go on.

Speaker: for me it's it i feel like it was warranted as a celebration because just when you put everything into into context and whether look whether that's just me being an arsenal fan and i'll read a bit deeper into it that's fair enough that's that's you know i wouldn't expect an opposing fan to like to have that same opinion because for whatever reason so yeah i i feel like yeah it's a warranted celebration

Speaker: because of what we've achieved so far.

Speaker: Yeah, like you're saying, obviously, no real... Well, no trophies.

Speaker: That's fine.

Speaker: I get that.

Speaker: Standard.

Speaker: That is the ultimate achievement.

Speaker: But in terms of where we were to where we are now, again, these things take a bit of time to build up.

Speaker: When Klopp took over, it took him, what, four years, five years to win the first trophy?

Speaker: So it wasn't an immediate... Was it three years?

Speaker: I don't think it was, was it?

Speaker: When did it come?

Speaker: It was 2015.

Speaker: Did it come 2015?

Speaker: 2015, yeah.

Speaker: in 2019 this is his eight 16 16 2019 he came in 16 i think didn't he because 24. fucking guardioli came 16. oh guardioli was 16 clock 15. so that's what i'm saying so again so how long has arteta had

Speaker: I think this is his fifth year coming up, but he did win the FA Cup.

Speaker: Here's the question.

Speaker: Okay, so small steps.

Speaker: You're celebrating the victories on the right path.

Speaker: Okay, so you're going for that approach.

Speaker: And that's fine.

Speaker: Okay, you're fine and you celebrate.

Speaker: And you've had, like we've talked many times, what my team has experienced, not to this level, but your team experienced as well.

Speaker: You know, the heartaches and the bit of falling from the top or falling from the heights of the invincible and so on.

Speaker: Okay, an FA Cup here and there.

Speaker: How long do you give Arteta if you don't win the league?

Speaker: When are you expecting Arsenal to win the league?

Speaker: You're making good investments.

Speaker: There's rumours you're going to try and get Ossiman.

Speaker: Is it Ossiman?

Speaker: Help me again out on the pronunciation of the Napoli.

Speaker: Yeah, Ossiman.

Speaker: Ossiman, yeah.

Speaker: So you're trying to get Ossiman to compete with Chelsea for 111, 120.

Speaker: Again, rumours Arsenal will compete with Chelsea to buy Victor Ossiman.

Speaker: You might, you might not.

Speaker: He'll probably pick you over Chelsea because, again, it looks better.

Speaker: Depends what he wants, really.

Speaker: Depends what he wants.

Speaker: Yeah, but, like, you know, it's...

Speaker: You'd like to think he wants football than win trophies.

Speaker: You'd like to think that.

Speaker: And currently, which team is better at winning trophies and plays better football?

Speaker: Unfortunately, it's the red side of London or like North London Reds rather than the fucking West London Blues.

Speaker: And you'd think he'd pick you.

Speaker: So then the question becomes, you're investing well, 100 million on Declan, you're investing really well.

Speaker: How long do you give Arteta if you don't win the league?

Speaker: Coming second and third, second and third, how long do you give him?

Speaker: I think,

Speaker: To be honest with you, I feel like maybe this year should have been or should be the year to win something.

Speaker: This year should be the year.

Speaker: It should.

Speaker: Again, when I say should slash should have been because obviously the way that last year ended,

Speaker: just maybe a player or two short for it to be this year.

Speaker: And I can't use that as an excuse because it's been two, three Januaries where I've said, shit, we need the players to win the league.

Speaker: And no one was listening to me.

Speaker: And now it's like, oh, yeah, we should have invested in January.

Speaker: So wait a minute, two, three Januaries, that's three years.

Speaker: No, that's what I'm saying to you.

Speaker: Exactly my point.

Speaker: At this point now, we should either have already won the league from last year

Speaker: and you know sort of defending for another title race this year that's where I feel like we should be right now that's where we should be right now you're not there so like that's for me for me I'd say probably maybe one more season after the season what if he comes second or third this season give him one more season with maybe the other two players that he's missing and if he still can't get anywhere close I think that's unfortunately that has to be the this leads into another question for the listeners and I'm sure they're thinking the same

Speaker: Who are the two players that are missing?

Speaker: Or the one or two players that are missing?

Speaker: I'm saying... So I'm saying... You said striker, but... Rather than... Yeah, I was going to say, striker is definitely one of them.

Speaker: Striker slash forward.

Speaker: And... Forward in what sense?

Speaker: Like a winger forward?

Speaker: Like a winger forward, yeah.

Speaker: Like a winger forward.

Speaker: Like a sucker left wing, right wing.

Speaker: Yeah, right wing maybe for Saka to take breaks because, again, he's going to be a crucial part of the team.

Speaker: And if he's injured, then shit, he can't do fuck all.

Speaker: So a strike, an attacking-minded player, so like a right forward, left forward or centre forward because you play with three up top.

Speaker: And then where's the second player?

Speaker: Second player, I'd say probably... Or second position, sorry, that you wanted to strengthen.

Speaker: Probably it would be...

Speaker: next to Declan Rice's party's role, I would imagine like that sort of... That sort of more... More of a box-to-box sort of midfielder rather than use Jorginho, you know, someone a bit younger and someone who's a bit more... But I thought Declan was box-to-box.

Speaker: Has Declan not been box-to-box?

Speaker: The games that I've seen here.

Speaker: They switch when Jorginho plays.

Speaker: Jorginho's a bit more further forward than Declan Rice.

Speaker: And when he doesn't play, it's Declan Rice that's usually a bit more forward.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: So I think, yeah, someone in that, another strong midfielder...

Speaker: in that sort of vein, in that area of the pitch, I think that probably would do it.

Speaker: Obviously, you know, if we can get a third player in there, it would be a left back.

Speaker: So, but I only say that because I haven't seen Uri and Timber actually play properly.

Speaker: So I don't know whether he's going to be good or not.

Speaker: And I can't be like, oh, well, yeah, just forget about that position because what if he comes back and shit, it takes him, I don't know, as long as fucking Chilwell and Rhys James to get better.

Speaker: I can't be dealing with that shit.

Speaker: So, yeah, that's, you know,

Speaker: Forget you're in Timber because he'll probably come back and hopefully be good.

Speaker: But if he wasn't there, probably a left back.

Speaker: So let's.

Speaker: OK, then.

Speaker: So then that's what you're saying.

Speaker: So you get these two players next year or this summer because you.

Speaker: OK, you've not won this year.

Speaker: You've come close, a really good performance.

Speaker: Again, an improvement from last year.

Speaker: You probably have lost it.

Speaker: Well, I mean, an improvement from last year would be winning the league.

Speaker: No, no, but let's say another improvement would be getting closer without winning.

Speaker: You know, like how many points were you behind last year?

Speaker: I think you finished eight points behind.

Speaker: Eight points, yeah.

Speaker: No, five points.

Speaker: Five points.

Speaker: So let's say you get within a point of the team winning in Liverpool or City.

Speaker: You get those two players.

Speaker: So what you're saying is with those reinforcements in the summer, you give him another year.

Speaker: And if he doesn't win you the league.

Speaker: League or Champions League, by the way.

Speaker: Let's go League or Champions League.

Speaker: Yeah, of course.

Speaker: He buys more time because he's just won the Champions League.

Speaker: Of course, yeah.

Speaker: He goes trophy-less.

Speaker: But if you win another FA Cup, are you content with that?

Speaker: 24-25 next year.

Speaker: So another FA Cup.

Speaker: You've won it a gazillion times now since the competition begun.

Speaker: As a fan, are you content with that finishing second and third season?

Speaker: I'll take second and third in FA Cup any time but that's me but yeah are you content with that another second and third for example let's say second and third again

Speaker: 24-25 season, second or third with an FA Cup.

Speaker: Well, without saying, depending on certain factors, then yeah, I wouldn't be content with that.

Speaker: No, not at all.

Speaker: Again, without going into, oh, well, you know, it's a trophy and you could probably get a little bit more, you know, you'd get probably another player that could do it or depends on what the performances were like.

Speaker: Without getting into that, then no, I would definitely, definitely not be content.

Speaker: I think...

Speaker: League or Champions League is overdue right now.

Speaker: Yeah, well, Champions League definitely for you guys.

Speaker: I don't think you've ever won it, have you?

Speaker: Yeah, I was going to say, so overdue is probably not the right word because we haven't won it.

Speaker: But definitely the league.

Speaker: No, the league is overdue for Arsenal, to be fair.

Speaker: You definitely need to win the league.

Speaker: And you are playing amazing football.

Speaker: Again, I'm jealous.

Speaker: I said it earlier on the pod.

Speaker: But okay, that's interesting to know.

Speaker: So in your mind, he gets another... I wonder how many more Arsenal fans feel like this.

Speaker: And if you do feel like this, hit us up on Facebook.

Speaker: listeners and let us know are you same as Larry one more year 24-25 with two or three reinforcements no league or Champions League Ateta walks not walks but he's shown the door yeah and then yeah I think over the Barcelona job and then wins the league and Champions League

Speaker: Yeah, wins the travel.

Speaker: Typical everyone leaving Arsenal, that's what they fucking do.

Speaker: Man, Percy the prick.

Speaker: Can you imagine if I did it to left and he goes and wins the Champions League and then La Liga or some shit?

Speaker: With a shit Barcelona team.

Speaker: With a shit Barcelona team.

Speaker: I'd swap teams.

Speaker: If I was you, I'd swap teams.

Speaker: I'd be like, fuck this shit.

Speaker: No, I just stopped the Premier League altogether.

Speaker: Fuck it.

Speaker: I'll just watch Serie A or something.

Speaker: What's his name?

Speaker: Did he win anything?

Speaker: Unai Emery after leaving Arsenal.

Speaker: Did he win anything?

Speaker: Did he win League One?

Speaker: Because I think League-er, sorry.

Speaker: Yeah, no, but I mean, come on.

Speaker: No, but did he win something though?

Speaker: Did he win the league somewhere?

Speaker: Did he win League-er?

Speaker: I don't think he won League-er, did he?

Speaker: I don't know if he won it or not.

Speaker: I don't think he did.

Speaker: But after Arsenal, did he go back to Spain?

Speaker: I think he went back to Seville and I think he won.

Speaker: Yeah, I think he won in Europa League.

Speaker: Yeah, I think he did for another record-breaking time.

Speaker: It's like... Yeah, Seville or VRL.

Speaker: I think he won it with VRL.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: There you go.

Speaker: Yeah, it's amazing how he never won with an Arsenal team.

Speaker: Yeah, it is.

Speaker: Fuck it.

Speaker: It is what it is, man.

Speaker: But I think that's all you need, though.

Speaker: You need to break that curse.

Speaker: Once you break that curse, I think trophies are coming your way.

Speaker: But again, it's going to take money.

Speaker: In this day and age, the investments, people like Todd inflated the prices ridiculously.

Speaker: So yeah, you need to pay because...

Speaker: City will pay.

Speaker: If the strikers quality, City are going in.

Speaker: And if City are going in, you really, really need to pull something out the bag.

Speaker: And I think the only thing you can do is financially throw more money at the player and be like, come to us because we'll give you an extra 50, 100 grand more percentage on signing bonus and goals or whatever the hell is going on.

Speaker: So you need some sort of incentive.

Speaker: Okay, mate.

Speaker: Okay, that's interesting to hear that.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, literally, I thought, but then again, where I am, I take the first, sorry, second or third,

Speaker: for the next Spurs, Spursian syndrome of the next 10 years, I'll be like third or second, bro.

Speaker: I will never forget these years as a Chelsea fan.

Speaker: No, I wouldn't much so.

Speaker: I will never forget these.

Speaker: If and when the glory days come, I will never forget these years.

Speaker: Yeah, I was out.

Speaker: We are humbled.

Speaker: Humbled.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Sit down.

Speaker: Yeah, literally sit down.

Speaker: Sit down.

Speaker: yeah no you can't stand up again kevin hard in a bitch i got these yeah but i feel like kevin hard there without trying to join into that controversy between the two of them and all that conspiracy shit um after kat williams kind of made that joke first obviously kevin changed the things when he went kat wasn't skilled standing up to spell he goes teacher when kat stand up

Speaker: bitch hamster.

Speaker: Cat Williams in Pimpin' Pimpin', I think, Pimpin' Chronicles, whichever one with the green shirt, that's one of the ultimate, yeah, that's the ultimate, or one of the ultimate fucking stand-up comedies of all time.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: Quickly on this, did you know he kind of has his own, he owns the shows, he kind of, when he gets there, he self-funds, so he owns 100% of the intake.

Speaker: Well, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at all that shit that he's been talking.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: Well, again, I'm just going off what he said, but other people have come out and said, actually, no, he doesn't.

Speaker: He pays really well to other comedians.

Speaker: But yeah, moving on, moving on.

Speaker: Back to Liverpool.

Speaker: Back to you guys.

Speaker: Yeah, no, that's good.

Speaker: I also wanted to talk a little bit about Man United.

Speaker: Coming good.

Speaker: Or like getting some performances and like, it's a bit of a piss take, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah, it's not a fun thing to watch, really.

Speaker: I don't like it because it's a guy called Eric.

Speaker: It's my boy Eric.

Speaker: I don't like it.

Speaker: I don't like it.

Speaker: So I think with United, though, I think maybe next season, if they have a strong end to this season and maybe get into Europe, one of the European competitions, I think Ten Hag, they're going to invest quite heavily for him, to be fair.

Speaker: Because they'll probably, obviously, they'll see that it's like, oh, shit, it's only...

Speaker: it's only certain players that I needed that I can obviously that we can and then we can actually challenge and it could become like a fucking far away horse title race you know what I mean it's that could be that could be even more interesting yeah that that that would be the best thing when like all these top teams really like yeah when it's an actual top six yeah like title race that would be amazing I would enjoy that really much

Speaker: And you put your team up each time, yeah, of course.

Speaker: Well, no, no, the thing is, I think, obviously, you know, if it ever gets to that, then it just becomes more competitive.

Speaker: And whoever wins will be a deserving winner, you know?

Speaker: Rather than, oh, it's only Man City against Liverpool in the last five, six seasons.

Speaker: You know, this time it'll be, oh, shit, wait, it's actually seven teams.

Speaker: Any one of them could win this league.

Speaker: And whoever does will just be like, yeah, okay, we won this on merit.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Like, we beat six other teams to be here right now.

Speaker: So, yeah, with my United, and look, it was always going to be a matter of time before something happened with them, something good, you know.

Speaker: Bad cycles don't last forever.

Speaker: They'll last for a long time, but they won't last forever, you know.

Speaker: As soon as you said they won't last forever, you thought of Chelsea and you went, actually, they do last for a very long time.

Speaker: But no, I was thinking more like, you know, ourselves as Arsenal and Liverpool for like, you know, who went 30 years without winning the league.

Speaker: So it's... So, you know, again, it's a long period of time and hopefully...

Speaker: hopefully it doesn't go any longer than 20 years for Arsenal now.

Speaker: So in terms of the league, hopefully this could be the perfect 20-year anniversary.

Speaker: And long may continue for Man United, eh?

Speaker: Well, not the upturn, the downturn, obviously.

Speaker: Yeah, the downturn.

Speaker: Long may continue the sort of downturn of not winning and the cycle turning around.

Speaker: Please.

Speaker: For them, it's infinite.

Speaker: They have a special category.

Speaker: Why are they so hated, by the way?

Speaker: Do you think why they're actually Man United fans and Man United as a club are like hated?

Speaker: I understand the global brand and their reach is incredible because of those glory.

Speaker: Because they refuse to be humbled.

Speaker: They refuse to be humbled even though they have been on many occasions and Liverpool proved that well last season when they just slapped them.

Speaker: What was it?

Speaker: 7-1?

Speaker: 7-0, I think it was.

Speaker: 7-0.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: After that, I would have shot up if I was a Man United fan, but they didn't.

Speaker: They just kept hanging.

Speaker: I took my top off and started wearing light blue and going like, I don't know who you're talking about.

Speaker: I'm a City fan the whole time.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I lived in the City Centre all the time.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: So yeah, I think it's, yeah, hopefully nothing good comes of it for Man United.

Speaker: But look, this is the beauty of the league.

Speaker: A bit of investment, new owners come in, makes it a bit more interesting.

Speaker: Not as if Newcastle would have any battle in this season at all to be considered in that top seven or whatever it is, because they've been average at best.

Speaker: I think he'll get the sack if they don't win.

Speaker: Sorry, if they don't win.

Speaker: If they don't make Champions League, I think they'll get the sack.

Speaker: He'll get the sack.

Speaker: Because they've had a taste now.

Speaker: Their owners have had a taste for Champions League.

Speaker: They know the amount of money it brings in, especially with financial fair play.

Speaker: All you can do now is big deals.

Speaker: And the only way you're going to do that is by doing.

Speaker: Speaking of big deals, I don't know if you heard this rumor.

Speaker: Apparently, Air Jordan, the brand Jordan, is looking to sponsor either Chelsea or Tottenham.

Speaker: But it's not decided between the two because he wants to see which one of them has got a bigger reach and which one of them is going to play in New York next year.

Speaker: Oh, shit.

Speaker: We'll have the bigger reach than Tottenham because of our recent past in terms of winning trophies and stuff.

Speaker: So our global reach will be bigger.

Speaker: Which is winning trophies in general, yeah.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: That's the early.

Speaker: So I think Jordan will probably look at that and be like, wait, these guys haven't won anything.

Speaker: Shit, I'm a six-time NBA champion.

Speaker: What the fuck am I going to do with these idiots?

Speaker: So, you know, you never know.

Speaker: You never know.

Speaker: So hopefully it does because we need a bit more money for this financial fair play.

Speaker: But yeah, it was interesting to see that.

Speaker: And also I found it interesting is when they said Spurs is the richest club in London or like financially better off than all the other clubs in London.

Speaker: So like because of their new stadium, I think that's what they're putting it down to.

Speaker: Like the amount of

Speaker: It's incredible stuff.

Speaker: So now, fuck.

Speaker: Commercial, isn't it?

Speaker: Commercial, commercially better off rather than richer.

Speaker: Yeah, commercially better off.

Speaker: So each year, I think they generated close to 800 million last year or something.

Speaker: NFL and F1 had definitely partnered with them.

Speaker: And then obviously, they have, didn't they have the Taylor Swift concert or something?

Speaker: Or a Rihanna concert or something?

Speaker: I think they have many concerts there.

Speaker: That's the thing, yeah.

Speaker: So they've opened it to like sort of an arena.

Speaker: Similar to what Mike actually was trying to do with Jim.

Speaker: Yeah, well, that's it.

Speaker: I'd do the same thing.

Speaker: I'd do exactly the same thing.

Speaker: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker: But we can't.

Speaker: It can't happen at Stamford Bridge because the stadium is old, 40,000.

Speaker: It's not enough.

Speaker: You need 60 plus, really.

Speaker: but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Speaker: No, okay, my mate.

Speaker: Well, I don't really have much to say on anything else.

Speaker: No, same.

Speaker: I think it's all been covered, really.

Speaker: And obviously, we'll be back at the end of the week.

Speaker: We'll discuss some predictions and whatnot.

Speaker: Predictions, very quickly.

Speaker: Villa versus Chelsea.

Speaker: What's your prediction?

Speaker: Because, yeah, we play on Wednesday.

Speaker: Oh, you play on Wednesday?

Speaker: Oh, right.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Bear in mind, Villa got beat by Newcastle for the first time since February 2023 at home.

Speaker: Not just by Newcastle, but by any team.

Speaker: But yeah, we played this Wednesday.

Speaker: So let's quick predictions.

Speaker: Coventry versus Sheffield United.

Speaker: Oh, do you know what?

Speaker: I can even see Coventry winning that.

Speaker: Sweet.

Speaker: Me too.

Speaker: I don't really think of a score, but let's go with just that for now.

Speaker: Plymouth Argyle versus Leeds United.

Speaker: Ah, Leeds need to win that for sure.

Speaker: Southampton Watford.

Speaker: Ooh, Southampton.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Northern Forest, Bristol City.

Speaker: Now, Knott's Forest, obviously they're a Premier League team, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker: I'll go with them.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm going to go with them.

Speaker: If they get BT, a new non-easter, like really take a look at himself in the mirror.

Speaker: Give the fans something to cheer about, like another FA Cup and then so on.

Speaker: And then obviously the big one, this is where I do want a prediction, a score prediction, not a win or lose.

Speaker: Villa versus Chelsea.

Speaker: It's a Villa Park.

Speaker: Villa Park.

Speaker: And Chelsea have just come back from an absolute slapping.

Speaker: Two games, eight goals.

Speaker: Oh, good God.

Speaker: And Villa, obviously, they're not going to be happy that they lost to Newcastle.

Speaker: They lost to Newcastle, but then they won.

Speaker: And they did what I was expecting Chelsea to do and react.

Speaker: And they won five nil against Sheffield United.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I think...

Speaker: I think Villa are going to win, mate, I'm afraid.

Speaker: I think it's going to be like a 2-1 or a 3-1 or something.

Speaker: Yeah, I think the same, to be fair.

Speaker: I think we're going to get beat.

Speaker: I'm still going to predict Chelsea winning 2-1 because it's my team and it's in my heart.

Speaker: But logically speaking, an educated guess is probably... Yeah, I can't see us making the next round, to be honest with you.

Speaker: The past two performances, I really can't see us making the next round.

Speaker: But I still think that you'll win the Carabao Cup, though, which is weird.

Speaker: Yeah, but...

Speaker: fucking car about cop mate like you know it's like you said the other day it's like you know it's not even the cup for me it's like yourself it's like yeah i want to win but i want a performance in a convincing performance you know like you said like against how sweet did that win against liverpool feel to the point where you took your phone and started taking pictures of everybody around your house and did it why don't you take your phone rather go to martin's house and go i didn't get a picture of me yeah outside your house

Speaker: that would take a little bit but like what I was trying to say is like same as you felt that's the kind of that euphoric feeling that I want yes the victory is sweet but you want a convincing performance you will not just be entertained but you want to believe to beat your team think like yeah wow that was really really good that was longevity that's what I want I want consistency and that's why like I can't see I can't see that just anyway I don't want to talk about it anymore it's depressing depressing as fuck well I'm sure we'll talk about the Chelsea loss at the end of the week when this happens so

Speaker: Now, should I save it?

Speaker: No, the listeners are going to want to know Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari.

Speaker: What are your thoughts?

Speaker: I'm so glad.

Speaker: I'm so glad.

Speaker: I'm so glad.

Speaker: I'm so glad you reminded me.

Speaker: Yeah, I've reminded you this because obviously the listeners want to know about this.

Speaker: We've got some questions we need to answer.

Speaker: There's some listeners who want to know our joint Arsenal team, our England team.

Speaker: which we promised that we'll do that.

Speaker: It's a secret.

Speaker: It's locked up in a safe right now.

Speaker: It's in an ISA right now.

Speaker: That's literally where it's at.

Speaker: It's in an ISA.

Speaker: Yeah, it's in an ISA right now.

Speaker: We're still mulling it over.

Speaker: Hey, look, Hamilton to Ferrari.

Speaker: Fuck.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation maybe last season on the podcast.

Speaker: I'm sure we had a conversation about this where...

Speaker: we probably just joked around the fact that Hamilton going to Ferrari and trying to beat Michael Schumacher's record in a Ferrari, which would be epic, which would be epic.

Speaker: And yeah, massive surprise.

Speaker: And even though it had been sort of rumored for quite a bit, you know what I mean?

Speaker: But it was more like silly rumors rather than anything concrete.

Speaker: And then when the news broke, it was just, I still couldn't believe it.

Speaker: I still couldn't believe it until later on.

Speaker: F1 actually put out the statement to say that he's signed a contract.

Speaker: But personally, if Lewis Hamilton's gone there on a big contract, then obviously he wants some guarantees to be like, look, I'm leaving Mercedes, who have potential to come back stronger in 2025.

Speaker: But I'm thinking Lewis is probably thinking of 2026.

Speaker: when the new rule changes come into play.

Speaker: So maybe he's like, well, shit, I did it with Mercedes once.

Speaker: Let me go and try and do it with Ferrari.

Speaker: Do it with Ferrari.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And how sweet would that be to break the record in a Ferrari by the guy who was effectively the face of Ferrari?

Speaker: You think of Ferrari, you think of Schumacher.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Past couple of years, he's been off because of his injury and so on.

Speaker: And he's not been in the media and like this kind of stuff.

Speaker: But...

Speaker: He's been, you know.

Speaker: He still is, yeah.

Speaker: You think Ferrari is synonymous with it?

Speaker: Michael, you think Michael?

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: That's the only way to go for it.

Speaker: And part of me felt Lewis Hamilton just wanted to kind of get to those limited edition Ferraris and his car collection before he retires from the sport.

Speaker: He thought, like, what can I do?

Speaker: Right, let me join Ferrari.

Speaker: Yeah, I'll get those limited editions.

Speaker: Yeah, let me have a chat with them.

Speaker: Oh, here's a new Ferrari FXXK, Street Legal.

Speaker: He wants that F2004.

Speaker: Whatever it is.

Speaker: That's what he wants.

Speaker: Just being the name, because I'm sure they'll have something that's so limited edition that's only like the Sultan of Bunein and Saudi Arabia.

Speaker: Especially made for them and stuff like that.

Speaker: And Lewis.

Speaker: And he'll be like, here I am.

Speaker: Honestly, I'm excited.

Speaker: I'm so excited.

Speaker: But even for the following year to see Lewis in red,

Speaker: it's going to be so interesting.

Speaker: But he needs a good car because you can't do that to Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker: Doing that to Lewis Hamilton is what Chelsea are doing to Thiago Silva.

Speaker: He's had a great career and we're just making him look shite.

Speaker: You can't do that to Lewis because if Lewis is finishing fourth or fifth and getting overtaken by George Russell, getting in a Mercedes, McLaren's overtaken, flipping Alpine coming over and possibly overtaking him, you just can't do that to Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: I think you'd probably have that option in his contract where it's like one plus one.

Speaker: Yeah, I forgot about the rule change in 26.

Speaker: So yeah, you made a very good point that he's probably thinking, I'll go 25 and then 26, I'm there already.

Speaker: Because you can help develop the 2026 car, you know, that's, so it could, it makes sense when you think of it that way.

Speaker: But obviously, no one would ever thought that he was going to, he was going to move.

Speaker: So yeah, I'm super fucking excited and

Speaker: I cannot wait for next season.

Speaker: Fuck this season.

Speaker: Whatever happens, I don't give a shit.

Speaker: But next season... I'm excited for this season, to be fair, to see what Mercedes are doing.

Speaker: Because I'm sure Toto is not really going to settle for that.

Speaker: And Christian Horn just wants to keep going further and further.

Speaker: And Ferrari aren't always too far back.

Speaker: They're never too far back.

Speaker: So it could always be like one...

Speaker: one decent change to the car or strategy, that's it.

Speaker: Ferrari could be, you know, in with a shout of winning it.

Speaker: So yeah, you never, you never know.

Speaker: It's going to be, it's going to be fun.

Speaker: It really is.

Speaker: And I think the, I think the release of their cars of the 2024 cars is like sometime in February, sometime mid February, they're going to have the car launches and next month in March, new season starts.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: When is the first race in Bahrain, isn't it?

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: I think,

Speaker: Because it's not Australia anymore.

Speaker: No, no, it's Bahrain this season.

Speaker: I think from next season, it'll be back to Australia.

Speaker: I think that's the way it's working.

Speaker: But I could be wrong.

Speaker: But I think that's what it is because I'm pretty sure I heard it with my own ears.

Speaker: If you heard it with your ears, then it must be happening.

Speaker: And we've got Drive to Survive as well at the end of February.

Speaker: That's going to be exciting to watch.

Speaker: Drive to Survive.

Speaker: Did you watch the NASCAR one?

Speaker: I'm watching it right now.

Speaker: You're watching it right now.

Speaker: But not as we speak.

Speaker: Of course not.

Speaker: Very rude conversationalist if you're watching something else.

Speaker: But no, all right, my mama.

Speaker: Listen, great seeing you.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Lovely speaking to you.

Speaker: And if you don't have anything else to say, I was going to send us out.

Speaker: Send us out, mate.

Speaker: Send us out.

Speaker: I'm all talked up.

Speaker: You're all talked up, yeah?

Speaker: Love that.

Speaker: All right, everybody.

Speaker: Well, thank you very much for listening.

Speaker: We'll catch you on the next one.

Speaker: Stay safe.

Speaker: Stay alert.

Speaker: Bye.