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Tiny Car Podcast episode 1
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Torben and Bob discuss all things related to the model car hobby.
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Introduction and Welcome
00:00:19
Speaker
All right, well hello everybody welcome to the tiny car podcast this is really exciting episode one it is Welcome Bob. Hey, welcome to urban. How are you doing today? I am doing great nice Saturday morning here in Minneapolis
00:00:37
Speaker
You have a good holiday season? I had an excellent holiday season. I played way too many Christmas carols, but I'm done with that, and it'll be smooth sailing from here on. Great, great. Well, thank you to anybody that's listening, if anybody's listening.
Mission and Focus on Model Cars
00:00:51
Speaker
We have an excellent show today, all kinds of content. But seeing as how this is our first show, we should talk about just what the hell we're going to talk about.
00:01:14
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I don't know if we'll ever get to that point. Hopefully, we will see. But basically, a mission vision statement, if you don't need some kind of business term, try to sound technical.
Episode Format and Club Memberships
00:01:28
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It's just to talk about model cars for everything, if anything, model car related. I think that's kind of my super staff right now as well.
00:01:43
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Just be able to talk about that once a month. We're shooting for now. If it picks up, we might do twice a month. I don't know if we'll ever get up. That's pretty hectic, but that's what we're shooting for. Each episode, we want to have an interview with somebody from the hobby. Talk about different Donneras of buildings. I know there's a couple of us that I'm in.
00:02:14
Speaker
Formula One cars, motorcycles, web-frame projects, all kinds of different stuff. And so we're going to welcome in, I guess, each episode. We're also going to talk about the new products, new kits coming out, the possible variations of the kits.
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Speaker
We're going to talk about, I know I'm in the RPM Club and the MFM Club here in Minneapolis. And Bob, you're also in some other clubs. I am also in NCCM, which is a little bit older model car club. Also in Twin Cities, Aero Historians, because I like building airplanes as well. And one other smaller club, which is OMG, a buddy of ours runs, which is another small club. And they're a counterpoint to the larger club.
00:03:07
Speaker
RPM, you can say they're historians, and MMFS are 40 to 60 guys. And MSM and OMG are a nice small, maybe 10 people, much more personal, you know, no rules really, no do's, no, it's just, so it's really fun being a small person as well.
Personal Stories and Nostalgia
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Yeah, and, you know, in the two clubs that we're in, we just recently had the,
00:03:38
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We'll probably talk about that a little later in the show. But that's always a fun experience that we have every December. And normally, when we interview people, we have a certain list of questions that we're going to go through for the guests. And depending on who the guest is, we might have some other things that is in their specialty area. But since it's episode one, Bob and I are going to interview each other, just so all the listeners out there
00:04:08
Speaker
you can kind of see what our backgrounds are, what our interests are. So Bob, I'm going to start off right away with some questions. If you can question that, Jeff. And I'll shoot them right back at you. Great. Great. All right. Well, the top on the list we got is, why model parts? What does the hobby do for you? So when I built Kits as a kid, I remember being really excited about
00:04:38
Speaker
When I was a boy about racing, I was very excited about Indianapolis 500, Formula One, NASCAR, Le Mans, all those cars. And I built a lot of them as a kid, up until I was probably about 16. And then of course, I got a real car, and there were girlfriends, and everything kind of, you know. And I stopped building for quite a few years, until maybe I was about 40.
Artistry and Satisfaction in Model Building
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So for me, model cars,
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For me, it's at the love of miniatures. I love building things in a small scale, and I build a lot of cars in a 40-foot scale as a store. So that's for me, it's the art, it's an artistic endeavor in miniatures. That's for me what it is. And to give homage to a lot of the great drivers that I've really put me on as well, Dan Gurney, Jim Carr, all those people. What about Utah?
00:05:35
Speaker
Well, and for me, I can remember being at a Kmart for about five or six years old. And I bought this. It was a 164, like what my mom called Max boxcars, because she was English. But most of the time, we bought Hot Wheels. But this particular one was in Pearl. They did some of the stock cars at the time. And it was a Gatorade car that, I believe,
00:06:04
Speaker
But I remember looking at it, and the car on the cart, or the blister pack that the Hot Wheels Collector talked about, was this awesome one-to-one picture of the car. And then I remember even as a five or six-year-old looking at the actual car, and it was not, they could really improve the 164 Dicat market. But anybody ever seen some of those early Earl cars, they had big clumps
00:06:33
Speaker
stickers on it, and then the car on the cover was a Monte Carlo, and then the car that got like this 1980's house was a, you know, so, and I, even back then, I remember, you know, how to go from this car to what's on the box. That not always was a challenge. I think when you're starting out building, that's your first real example of the car
00:07:24
Speaker
Basically, the love of Frank Hart. I always loved the way Frank Hart looked, and how he found it, and I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015, I remember the first day of 2015,
00:07:57
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And then also something we don't have a lot of in the world is control. And when you're at the work bench, you are in control. Even if it's the 125th or 143rd scale world, you're in control. And while things don't always go the way you wanted, you still have a lot more effect on those things rather than some of the others.
00:08:37
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to have kind of engaged life for a while. So that's what the hobby does. I'll add to that, that for me, it's a place to practice an art by myself and it's a practice in art that I think collaboration is not necessary.
Challenges and Joys of the Hobby
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So being a composer of music,
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And so you're out of control. Once you give it to someone else, you're out of control. And I sit down at the bench and work. It comes out great. I feel good. It comes out bad. Well, that's my issue too. But I think I will jump on to a control thing. And that's what I like about it. Yeah. And hopefully, as our experience grows and also the tools that we're using,
00:10:05
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that you're much better equipped with. Absolutely. Is not a better time to be doing this than that? Yeah. You know, people talk about the 60s being the golden age. Maybe it's the golden age as far as everybody being in cars and everybody, and all the cars coming out every year. But if you look at what is available to the mob today,
00:10:35
Speaker
You know, and I'm, you know, my main thing is NASCAR built pretty much. I don't think at any other time I was very able to build as many cars. I mean, I think of pretty much across the board, if you go from the start of NASCAR in 1949, 1950 to now, a large percentage of them were part of it. Yep. When even, you know, in the mid-'90s when I got started,
00:11:04
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Back into the hobby, it was like, it was great for current NASCAR stuff. You could build all the bush cars. But there was so many of what we might call the white whale companies that were a whole grail that was just not out there. If it was out there, it was $100, $150 for some old MVC 70 kids. And so many kids, like the Hudson Warner, the Chrysler,
00:11:45
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who did, you know, the Hudson Hornet, a very famous stock car from the 50s, the Chrysler 300, Ravel did the Oldsmobile from 1949 to the 50th, a very famous stock car. And so those American companies have certainly built a gap for a lot of things that we deal with, you know, we never had before. Well, and then as somebody who,
00:12:17
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If you can think back to some of those James Day decals. And credit to those guys, because without those, then don't get to what we have now. So I'm certainly not trying to throw shade on some of those early ones, but the quality is true. Look at Fred Katie. And Fred Katie's credit, I mean, he was doing those by hand. So the technology is really
00:12:47
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And to his credit, the cards I built with Katie DeKalb, they were long and tedious. I remember doing, like, a Benny Parson, the 7th and 3. He said, no, Clary won the championship with the 7th and 3. And it wasn't too bad of a pink team, but because we had
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00:14:22
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Now, anybody who uses any conflict decals, I highly recommend using the conflict decals because they're so small and brittle that they can completely flake off at the center. Boy, we're really getting on. Okay, well, let's move on. That's why model cards. Yeah, yeah. And so, number two, who got you started?
00:14:53
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I got myself started in the hobby. I never had a parental figure that was into this. I never had a sibling that was into this. I never had any friends. I just really enjoyed it. And like you, Jordan, I was obsessed with race cars. At the time, I was eight, nine years old. Well, I'm sure you had friends who didn't have friends to build. I didn't have friends to build.
00:15:24
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It was the excitement of my father dropping me downtown to see the Indy 500 on full servitella, if it wasn't on TV. Yeah, just saying, okay, and watch Mario, and do anything. Watch the turbine car break down in 1967. There's really great memories of that. And reading sports about graphics, and roads, and tracks, et cetera. So all those cars were excited. So I started myself. It was something I could do by myself in the basement of my parents' house, which was very pleasant. So that was me.
00:15:54
Speaker
Well, I gotta give all my credit for getting the hobby to my brother. My brother used to have a paper route, so I remember he would go collect, you know, go down Brady Lane, which his paper route was, and knock on to work, get his money, and then we were off to Kmart on our bikes, our TG&Y, you know, back then they told me,
00:16:25
Speaker
So we were off and building. This would have been the late 70s, so the kids weren't a whole lot to ride home about. I remember building several versions of the Pony Express. We thought that was it, which was a fortune, so wagons. But you could put the, let's make it a panel van with a very cool port hole on the side, and they came with a great custom
00:16:57
Speaker
Kids always had to break me, like snake bites and mustangs, the rain shot and monsa, and stuff like that. So that got me started. Now back then, my completion rate was probably about 5%. It took me a while to get going, but then, you know, I was about 6. As I got into middle school, I got a lot better.
00:17:26
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And then, oddly enough, you know, as my brother again, who got me back in as an adult, he got out of law school and a friend of his worked at Hobby Co. in Champaign, Urbana, and he would bring home some express significance. And so, and then at that time, too, I remember they came out with the Sarah Walter Council and those really felt like that, too.
00:17:55
Speaker
And so I was playing an adult league Facebook, and we got rained out Saturday. And so I had nothing to do. And I remember breaking out this Walter Conroe and thinking, wow, I had a lot more fun doing this than I would have been sitting out in the sun in the middle of summer for a couple of minutes. And so from that point on, I probably
00:18:28
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All right, well, this is going to be a surprise for me, but for you, this might be interesting. What is your favorite genre? So in Model Cars, I've built a lot of different genres. So I will build Formula One cars, in-cell Le Mans cars, rally cars, older NASCAR stuff I like.
00:18:59
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Some factory stuff. Those are my, I mean, I can't name one that I like better than these, but I like indie cars as well. I like all that stuff. So that's for me. And I know what your answer is for me. Yeah, very obvious.
Competitions and Personal Enjoyment
00:19:11
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A NASCAR is always, you know, I think about my early kids. The first one was a day I learned heart thunderbird. I loved the range of everything. I had the horse that's on. Again, you know, being proud of myself.
00:19:33
Speaker
But that was always the main draw for me. Again, I love the look of a race car. But they take foreign cars, like maybe a Buick Rebuild or something like that. You put the big wheels on it, and it had a real aggressive thing on it. And then you put on the great sponsors, like mountains, and stuff like that, the STP.
00:20:05
Speaker
But then also, you know, I certainly like a pointy car, drag racing, a Formula One car. Yeah, and it is especially I think for what gets me out of the main
00:20:25
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genre of like NASCAR is usually stuff I had as a flat car or a hospital car. So that got me to the three dots. You know that flat car I had, the Tyrell six wheeler, Formula One car I built was another flat car that I had. So that always helps. But then I've also loved muscle cars. And when I
00:20:54
Speaker
When I first got back in, I built more muscle cars than I had to reach, but muscle cars didn't pick up. You know, that one genre that I've kind of liked is weather.
00:21:42
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All right, so next question we have. When we talk about the building process, what's your least favorite?
00:22:12
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The second one is we need to do a factory stock market.
00:22:26
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Well, I think it depends on the body. I think the monogram 80s muscle cart gave you what seemed like a big moat between the windshield trim and the body, and that seemed like solo, just to bring the layer across. Whereas some of those AMP
00:23:05
Speaker
the blade to cut it. And then you start from the other side to open the door. And farther enough along the other side that you get past where you went off the track is. Very difficult rule of case. It is nerve-racking. And I think the farther along is the process, the more nerve-racking you get because then something's really
00:23:54
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And then, of course, it depends on
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So, you know, depending on the kit, you know, we ran into that guy in Nebraska. He was a fantastic builder. He won a lot of awards. And he just overly said that this is not worth his time not to build the kit. You know, all the kits in one way or the other.
00:25:01
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They sit pretty great. You may have to hog out a few things a little bit, but basically, they sit fine. Yeah. You know, another thing I'd say is the window glass at the time. That's different at the end. It's at the end of the problem. You know, you have lots of that kind of stuff. Yeah. And try to put that window glass in. And I know that, you know, in the name
00:26:06
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And then I'm like, well, I don't want this to lose its price. I'll put some on the other side. At that point, it pulls it. Of course. You know, I know sometimes it puts a mask on the table. You know, but then you have to pull it back off. But then, you know, if I don't pull the mask on the table, I'm not going to fall. It's a tricky thing. And then one time I had to pull the car together, and then the little
00:26:53
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And then I just overall how long, you know, I think back to when I first started building, and these were not great-looking cars. Boy, did I have fun building. But I would get about three cars done at a weekend. Of course, it rarely had radiators.
00:27:44
Speaker
But on the other side of this question, what part of modeling do you use? Well, it probably is going to have to be, but the damn thing is finished. You know, kind of connects people, and then problems. And you know what the problems are. You know what the issues are. But for the most part,
00:28:33
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20 seconds, whenever you have the car completed in its entirety, maybe there's still some, you know, dotting the I's and crossing the T's, but for all practical purposes,
00:29:32
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All right, well, let's see, do you build for place?
00:29:48
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So winning is better than losing. So it's always a pleasure to win some awards if you take on something like that. And sometimes, like you said, there's a puzzle about it. It's like, what? I know you guys have stories about that. But it's for pleasure. I have no interest in it.
Community and Shared Experiences
00:30:11
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Yeah. Yeah, it is good to get that affirmation. Right.
00:30:25
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had one that any of the shows that I brought, I think I built it 10 years ago. But then to have it win something now, it was cool. It made me feel better about it. Just to know that other people appreciate something. Yeah, winning is better than losing. However, I feel like if that's
00:30:52
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what drives you. And, you know, the thing about a hobby is that whatever brings you to it. And so this is not at all throwing shade at any of the people who do this. That's great too. And I really enjoy looking at the work of some of the people who've spent years on a hobby. Great to come back.
00:31:19
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But, you know, I remember like the first couple of shows I went to, like, you know, and I'm like, yeah, all right, I can do this. And I, you know, really get all the aftermarket stuff and wrapped up. You know, but it wasn't fun, you know? And then it got to be a job. And I know at least, and I've been accused of having ADHD and a lot of other things. But, and I have it in building models as well.
00:31:58
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but then somewhere between the 30 hours and the 50 hours, it dropped off. Kudos to people who do the Uber details stuff, but then at certain points, it comes to God. And then he's written on how to do what's different. So yeah, I would definitely say, even to the point with now,
00:33:01
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Yeah, I would say my favorite thing about this is sitting down and turning the world off by an airbrush. But then sharing it with other people, it's also, that's the other part. Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:33
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It is really the best of both worlds.
00:34:03
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on my own, and back then it wasn't nearly as much stuff on certainly YouTube or the internet, but you know, you had scale auto, and you had some, even some websites and stuff like that back then. But I had started to level on as an adult builder, that I, you know, I picked up for getting better, and I was using a policy kit, just a nap, but I think to take that next step,
00:35:08
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He brought his son, Ohio...
00:35:17
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not only for your skills, but not only for your friendship, and like Mr. Hansen like to say, it's a big happy thing. It is, it is. It's happy as family is thinking, you know? Yeah. All right. What model or word are you the most proud of? It's a good one. I think
00:35:47
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For me, it's every year we go to Milwaukee. There's a, they have a theme. And so when they ran the hundreds and running of the 8500, I had broke the display of eight big city cars in 1919 and 1969 and then 40 years ago. And it won the award and I was,
00:36:23
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I was pleased. What about you? Well, that was a great display and that's one of the reasons
00:37:00
Speaker
I would say the same thing with Milwaukee. You know, as an NASCAR builder, the Milwaukee field was the only one that had a dedicated NASCAR field. So, for me, that was the one humanized in terms of competitive building. But that was the one thing. Very happy. And, you know, some really great builders had one that was a lake town.
00:37:32
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and Mike Dowd. So, my good buddy, Santa Council. Yep, right. That's a great builder. Which reminds me, I was supposed to build a Hoosier's car. Last year, he said that the Hoosier's was fine. And actually, I did finally get some light, but I didn't have a Hoosier's car. So, hopefully I'll have that. You did a really nice job.
00:38:09
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Well, and, you know, again, I gotta thank my brother for that. And talk about sibling rivalry. Maybe that's what I needed to push me over the top, because that particular year, we had both decided to go to the NFL National High. And so we agreed to build this model thing
00:38:36
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And so he even took my first pick. He took the Gatorade of Sarah Walter. And so then I looked in the double of a penny per penny, which was pretty cool. And so then that really trying to compete with my brother was what got me to add all the bells and whistles and stuff. I can thank him for that. He never got his pick.
00:39:09
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Maybe one of us, because I have so many of our projects, once they fall into one day. All right, next up. Is there a holy grail out there? It seems like this is more for the baby boomer. I think we're blessed that a lot of our
00:39:44
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I think it's more for the baby. Is there a holy grail?
00:40:46
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You know like I said the good news bad news is nothing really means
00:41:01
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And then also as a NASA partner, as the last 20 years put out so many different, you know, we talked about the Hudson Orange, the Chrysler 300, reissuing all of the, you know, MCC fits the 70s, you know, and the older lights came out with that. You know, we're really good.
00:41:30
Speaker
I would say, I wish they would have done the Dodge Charger a little better, you know, because I have been throwing some of those names together and they never read the issues in the race version, so you have a couple of OK ones, you know, but they had like a really nice thing, because I love the winning cards that you can build out of a box, you know, but even though
00:42:07
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Stephen, you know, the Salvino's charge was a roadrunner, but yeah, it was a plane, but there certainly isn't room for action, but there's some things, right, that you can chat with, right, stuff that you can explain about, but the curve thought looked really good. It looks fabulous. Yeah. So, they were to come out with a charge. I don't think the bill was coming up, but everything that was going on was a problem.
00:42:44
Speaker
I was there? Yes, $125, which really seemed like a lot back then. This probably would have been, I don't know, 2008. What, 10 years? Yeah, and then of course they read it. And I did eventually build the version of that car, and I think that's wonderful for them, but at one time that
00:43:33
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Yeah, I'm getting up there.
00:43:51
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Again, I don't know if I even have it. Yeah, it is. There's nothing like going back to the driver path. Ooh, that's rough. Wasn't what I remember to be. All right, how big is your dad?
00:44:23
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You're pretty responsible. I'm not, I don't have much fun. I would say, I had a buddy over the week who was at armor building in the U.S., he looked at my car's dad, he needs some help. I don't have much at all. I would say, I've got about 95, 100, maybe 100, maybe 100.
00:44:55
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So what about you? Well, you know, the first step is admitting you have a problem. You can do a lot worse. In recent years, we've seen a lot worse. But that is not an excuse, just because there's somebody worse out there than you does. I mean, you're a good person doing a good job. I have probably asked about
00:45:26
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And, you know, I do know that life is about the journey, not the destination. So it is really funny when I had some of these conversations with Leah, my wife, and I said, well, I'm going to build all
Market Trends and Collector Impact
00:45:41
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of these. And she said, well, that doesn't matter. If anything, they take up more space once you build them because you have to put them in those stupid cases. But in my mind, yeah, I do,
00:45:55
Speaker
I think that I tend to do it, so I don't think of myself as a collector. However, you start to use a simple math, and it does start to, yeah. But you're also a prolific builder. It's not something that, I mean, I know I've seen you in the past. We have friends who sell them to you, I have seen some.
00:46:32
Speaker
Yeah. Well, one opinion I like is what you have it if it's there. And, you know, for what, you know, who, who knows when or where motivation is going to work. So if you have it, one of the hard things
00:47:09
Speaker
And you know, I think model car builders have to be too sustained to fix it. And I certainly, that's a barbering myself. So I'm not, you know, I'm guilty of it myself. But so then like, you don't get a whole lot to sell it. You know, I think I probably have to go on eBay. I've tried to sell stuff at a show. And, you know, for what you can get
00:47:42
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It's not worth $5.00 a package. If I don't go in the building for that. Right, right. But you deal with it. And also, we were in this brass control, kind of our chat. Roman and I went to the show. It's in the fall. It's in the fall.
00:48:20
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But yes, that has, you know, added to why my dad is so big, because you're probably, your NASCAR kit has been, you know, biased. So, you know, and I, I'm good for testing.
00:48:48
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It is just, you know, it is funny. Some people we've never seen. Yeah. Certain people we know very well. We have not seen because they want to allow that, you know. Yeah. And we have a good friend who sells when he has acquired a large collection. We've been over there numerous times looking through that collection, giving what we like.
00:49:12
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Yeah, he's like the grim reaper, and he collects all your stuff. And that last clip. Try again. And then, obviously, some people are more collected. Yeah, and for that, taking it your own.
00:49:49
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And I can say that for NASCAR cars, you could have five or six feet of regal that is five or six feet of different paint. But he would have five or six feet of paint. It was really, the old classic
00:50:20
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And some people are offended by those people, and we have an up-and-coming one, too, that's me, buying a lot of stuff. But in a way, I appreciate it, because they're preserving those things for us later on. And when that collection was bought, I certainly got a lot of stuff.
00:50:45
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So kudos to the collectors. As you said, the collectors tend to run behind the building. Is it really possible that the building would not be able to work? No. It would not. And I know certainly I've been a member of the Salvino's Club. And I won't lie, it is nice to get there.
00:51:21
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And if a guy knows, I don't need it. But I certainly appreciate the life that they brought back into NASA and even some of their future, for example, on what they're coming out with. So I don't, you know, don't mind giving them my money.
White Elephant Events and Camaraderie
00:51:44
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All right, now we talked about being prolific builders. Have you ever been in a building swamp?
00:51:52
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I just, you know, I pick things out that I love. I have built a couple of things on the commission. And I don't enjoy that. It's the building. And it's not very interesting. And I've passed some of these things off to another gentleman and I hope he likes it. So I very, very
00:53:33
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Now, the next part of our show, and generally we'll start a little earlier before the interview, is what's new in the hot, anything that you thought you were on. I mean, that's exciting for me, and I've already ordered three of them, two of them is selling
00:54:01
Speaker
So that's, I've also had a favor about wing parts. The super group comes out and describes the interesting stuff. Yeah, yeah. Well, according to Rick Salvino, now he's a great sales person. He said, he's pretty complimentary of what they are coming out with, but he's building that. And he says that that really goes in the other. The Indy car? Yeah.
00:54:54
Speaker
If I wanted to, I could build it, yeah. So, yeah, the IndyCar, I think it says that's coming out in March. They're shooting for, and then the multimedia that it talks about that low to 38. It's a whole new group, got a mind that comes up. You might not mind putting it out there.
00:55:43
Speaker
Now Rick was talking about the next one that they're going to do and he mentioned at first I thought it was going to be the Mario and Freddy card that he wanted.
00:55:53
Speaker
But apparently, you know, he was driving a newer one, but the hub broke, and that went back to the parking lot. Back to the Bronco, actually. The Bronco. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, yeah, unfortunately, then I don't, their next one won't be the one in the parking lot that you were talking about. It's a load.
00:56:23
Speaker
So that'll be a weird subject, that'll be interesting. The Lotus. Right. I think if I heard correctly now. Okay, okay. Now that probably depends on how many cells. Right. And then, you know, coming out with new Toyota Mustangs are changing here a little bit. So the Salvino's coming out with those.
00:56:52
Speaker
They mentioned the B-body could not get a read on which one they're gonna do first. They have three separate ones that they're gonna do. The 58 Road Runner, the 70 Superbird, and then the 70 Road Runner. And I think people build the 70 Road Runner from the monogram
00:57:27
Speaker
I assume they're going to use
00:57:52
Speaker
I also saw the, both of us have a fondant. Yeah. And they're doing a, I believe it's AMT? Is it someone doing a 61 board? I think maybe 60. 60, okay. Which is more than we have. The story I heard is it's actually the old, but they're updating and stuff. I think it could be like a lot of those.
00:58:23
Speaker
I think that's the story, but I know it's really 64. Yeah. Well, and they're doing 12. The 60 is unique because it looks really different. But then they're also doing a 63 board, I think.
00:59:07
Speaker
And there's another one in the pipeline.
00:59:33
Speaker
I waited so long for the husband. I still have not built one. You talk about motivation. When I first announced that, I was on the edge of my seat, and my daughter was pretty young, and so I first once built one, and moved it hard. But it just kept on moving. It took forever to come out, and when it came out, I just knew it.
01:00:05
Speaker
Like the Black Widow, I have not done a Black Widow because you did a very nice one, and another guy did one, and I was like, and eventually we had a fireball that was changed. And I did it, but I didn't walk with it. So there was, but like you say, once someone does it, you're like, oh. Yeah, it's that race to be the first one to get it done. Big fireball, Robert.
01:00:44
Speaker
I have a big sheet of decals for it that sits in the box. That's a great kit because our friend Jim is building.
01:01:16
Speaker
Yeah, so that, and the demon, I think people may be a little, you know, just with the chrome lights, but I know, you know, people talked about putting a whole bunch of these here in the past, the regular blue. It's not going to look clear.
01:01:53
Speaker
And I know there's a new Eberl kit coming out, too. There's a material, I think it's 003. It's a short stubby card. Jackie Stewart won his last championship. And I know our friend Cameron will be jumping on that one. I'll probably grab one of those. I built an earlier material, and this one I probably will get to. Okay.
01:02:26
Speaker
I know those are one of those things, like the pickup truck, at least the built truck. Until I build one, I'm not. There you go. There you go. And then actually, I actually have one anyway. So this is our car crawl. It gave me one. And so if I can build one, I'd like to build one. But they are coming out. I think this might be a different
01:03:02
Speaker
And then just looking through the, Tamayo, I didn't realize that the plants would brag about that. And then the 116, the 112 scale. The more the 72d, yeah. They have that up. Now, Atlanta just sold their decals. I don't know, I've never heard of Tamayo. Tamayo will do extra decals if you call Tamayo the USA. You can probably get a,
01:03:49
Speaker
Well, I've got cars, I've got the, I've always wanted to build one of the Trans Am cars, I've seen them run.
01:04:20
Speaker
So that was just about done. It came from a Nebraska trip, so it's my Nebraska project to get one of these kits done that I bought. Mercedes 170B, which is a delivery van from the mid-30s. It's from a company called Miniart. Very picky, delicate kit in 35th scale.
01:04:45
Speaker
And lastly, I'm working on the Evero Lotus 49B, which has frequently been wanting to be hit the wall, but it's almost done. You need five hands to put a lot of this together. There's many, many suspensions, different parts. It's the late 60s formula one part, so everything's sitting there hanging out. So those are three parts I've got. Pretty close to being done in the month of January. What about you? Well, I have mentioned before the white elephant,
01:05:15
Speaker
the month of the White Elephant, both finishing up White Elephant and then the new White Elephant. And for anybody who doesn't know, the White Elephant and both our clubs, the RPM Club and the MSM Club, is a time, usually in December, is when you wrap up a gift and each club member brings a wrapped gift and then you pick a number
01:05:45
Speaker
And then depending on what number you got, you want a higher number because if you have one, then you open up a kit and anybody else can steal the kit that you hope for. So that's always a lot of fun. And this year in particular, it was really fun. And we also have a rule that if you built your white elephant from year four,
01:06:22
Speaker
So, you know, we had about five or six people that completed there. And so, you know, as we're going through this, and we probably have about 40, 50 people in our PM club, I hear somebody say, how does Don have a red chip? And Don Stauffer is probably our most senior member. How old is Don? 83 years old. 83 years old. But bless his heart. I hope, first off, I hope
01:06:51
Speaker
And he built his way.
Current Projects and Club Activities
01:06:53
Speaker
But then, to be built, that's really great. Somebody said, how does Don have a red chip? And I looked over at the five or six built chips, and I don't know. And then somebody said, well, he didn't build anything. And it's like, well, somebody has to give him a different chip, or he can't take anybody else's chip.
01:07:21
Speaker
And then being the ambassador to Harvard, such a nice person, you're like, no, let him have it. And so I look over there. It's the first weekend at Bernie's. I can't tell if he sleeps or he's still with us. He's kind of hunched over, but he's crunching that red chip. And they call out the number, but sure enough, he's got the chip. And he starts to stand up.
01:07:48
Speaker
slowly walking like this combination of money and Frankenstein walking over. First, he walks past the table that has the wrapped stuff on it. Like, well, he doesn't know what he's doing. He can't take a wrap present, so it's no big deal. But then he keeps walking, and he's somewhat going in a direction. It looks kind of purposeful. And then I notice he's walking right over to you, right?
01:08:15
Speaker
The way the white elephants go, you know, most of the time people stop off at Michael's or something like that and they get this particular year, we had like eight more bronchos. Maybe we need to go to a race or something. So people aren't buying the same things over again. But there's always two or three kits that are very thought in. And you kind of have to be strategic because if you're picking pretty low, then you know it's going to get so low. So you're just going to be picking one.
01:08:46
Speaker
But on this picture day, it's a Porsche 917 with the Gulf of Texas. And somehow, Bob, you had commandeered this. I got that. So you were. And, you know, Don was maybe there's amazing, because we get this chip. Good. Because he didn't complete this thing. Somehow he ended up with this. And Don's status.
01:09:16
Speaker
But the story is that he did get a 30-second scale. So he did actually build it. Because I actually questioned him. I walked over and he said, we should talk. And he goes, well, I brought a glass of water to the bathroom at this point. I said, OK. OK. All right.
01:09:43
Speaker
So it is good. Good. All right. Good. Good. But he's narrowed my portion. It's like, but I did, but I turned around and I got a nice kid. Yeah. I went to the pile. I got another wrap kit for when it's helped me. So references going to build a petty three. Yeah. 69. That was the one year. Right. So it was, it all turned out well.
01:10:13
Speaker
Well, yeah. And the year I got a Jagermeister pour stone. Bitter tears. Well, Eric's not listening. But he's like, why would they want to do a podcast? Nobody's going to listen to that. So I don't have to worry about Eric listening to this. But he did take that Jagermeister pour stone. I ended up with that. What was it? Gaster 41 Willy? Don't do something. Don't woods and cook. Open doors. You did a beautiful job.
01:10:46
Speaker
So, yeah, that was our white elephant. So, that leads me to what's on the bench was my white elephant. I ended up with something, I picked something that wasn't so much of a Mark Mark, which is really funny.
01:11:10
Speaker
Oh, shut up, come on. Yeah, if you look through there, I did see a cover almost, yeah. I had bought decals recently for it, okay, I felt like that was a fine. And that was 89 to 93 Thunderbird, a monogrammed chassis, really, really good. Okay. That was probably a good one. But I got that feeling. If you'll humiliate any people in the public, we can say, hey, this is my way out.
01:11:41
Speaker
Yeah, well the year before I got too far in the week, I had to charge your Daytona, and then I substituted the MPC body, and I thought that was a little more in-race version. I mean, I think the Rebelle Charger Daytona built up great for stocks, durability stocks, but the race version was a NASCAR one, which I had a blue ball for. I'll look a little better, but then it didn't really go.
01:12:09
Speaker
And actually, it wasn't necessarily the chassis from the Ravell kit. It was the roll kit. A guy on the Randy Harrison head said that he used the Torino or the Talladega roll kit for the solar light kit. So I used that. It was still too long. And that caused some problems. There was a window, the windshield coming down farther. It was a dashboard.
01:12:42
Speaker
So that's also, I'm going in a different direction. Is that done as well? Okay, that's when you got the MSS.
01:13:10
Speaker
Well, you know, the MSN Club builds everything. But I don't build everything. I always build cars. And so I always have to have a high base. So I bring my own car, in case nobody else brings a car. And so on that particular day, there was not a car. Well, there was a stutter. What was it? A stutter. Yeah.
01:13:39
Speaker
I was a little stuck, and a little shocked, and maybe a little disappointed, but then it's like, okay, he's not gonna build a airplane or a tank, so what the hell, built a man's car, yeah. I built one airplane, you guys gave me so much trouble.
01:14:16
Speaker
All right, we have that.
Influence of Movies on Car Interest
01:14:18
Speaker
What's on the bench, the interview, we did that. Boy, we covered a lot of stuff in a lot of time. We do have our super six. Okay. Outside of the hobby with the top six. And this episode is the six favorite movies of all time. You're in that movie club. What movie club?
01:14:46
Speaker
Oh, many years ago. Did you guys have any plans for those? No, no, no. We just went to film society. They film movies. Oh, OK. Film. OK. Six is really hard. I mean, if I think there could be things on the top right now, it's very, it's really, it's really hard. Because I like, I like, like, I love the movie, and I hope the movie's world free. But then it's great.
01:15:37
Speaker
Well, you hit one of the same private rhymes. And you know about comedies, I grew up right there. So any time those guys made a movie, we were at the movies here. Any time, Chevy Chase, Bill Murray, John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd. Who's both his fans? Yeah, I remember seeing that. You know, that's pretty young.
01:16:13
Speaker
Yeah, that was fun. Animal House was fun. I don't know if they've aged as well. You know, I did like Sprite. And, you know, so any of those comedies, National Lampoon's vacation. First, I'm not as big a fan of the Christmas one, even though it's specifically, you know, a lot of people pick Christmas, but I do like the
01:16:47
Speaker
I like that. Old school was a great company. I know Will Ferrell is one of those people that sees their hands, or you love them. It's like a combination of everything. Will Ferrell and that company. But then, one that you and Eric
01:17:46
Speaker
Well, you know, I almost think it's
01:17:54
Speaker
Well, you know, kudos, you did go out, uh, fast times have risen on high.
01:18:46
Speaker
You know, I feel like you're kind of handcuffed to the sports movies because if you win, oh, yeah, sports, we knew they were going to win.
01:19:21
Speaker
Yeah, there's, and I tend to like, you know, thinking of, you know, this baseball piece, the funny divider, you know, the great symbol, of course, of all the people. I think, let's take a nice, very funny, and really, really good, and rush, and then forward-worsing form. Good, and have you had anything else? I've not yet, I'm going to try to see.
01:19:52
Speaker
And certainly we have an interview, you know, for a next episode. I would like to have Cameron, who we call the Oracle. He's the Oracle. It's a plethora of racing information. Right. The two years that we've gone to Road America, vintage racing, it's like when you go to the museum and you get the headset and that tells you about every picture. That's what it's like to walk with Cameron around.
01:20:59
Speaker
and to see what things were like in the late 70s early 80s, some of the early N and L nationals. He's also a big clover of drag races and drag races. He has to talk about that document of the hobby. I'm going to try to get anybody out of here. Another pioneer of the hobby. He's going to have his own company for a while. It's with Jim. Yep. President Cass. Yep.
01:21:29
Speaker
It's a big fun to see. Anyway, we have a lot of guys. So much talent in one room and skill filters in perspective. And hopefully you'll watch the Ferrari movie.
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:21:56
Speaker
My take was I found it surprisingly similar to the micro movies.
01:22:30
Speaker
He had to win it. So that's kind of the focal point.
01:23:09
Speaker
He was a very good driver. So, and this gentleman, but he was, it is
01:23:34
Speaker
This has, really. And for any listeners out there, thank you so much for listening. We can tune in next time. And also, we're going to be trying to get a Tiny Part podcast Facebook thing just to maybe show you some of the things that we have to be talking about, stuff like that. So thanks for joining us. And we look forward to next time.