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Episode 13
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Torben, Bob, and Jim talk about the recent Nordicon show and look forward to the upcoming Detroit show.
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Introduction to the Podcast
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Torben Rothgeb
Is this all being taped? Are recording? ye Welcome to the Tiny Car Podcast. This is your host, Torben Rosgab, and my co-host, Madrick, coming to you live from the Lake Street Studios in beautiful Minneapolis, the coolest city in the world.
00:00:18
Torben Rothgeb
All right. Hello, everybody. I hope everybody is doing well. It's great to join you from the beautiful Lake Street Studios. We are joined again with our special guest, Jim Campman.
00:00:31
Torben Rothgeb
Some people call him Slim Jim. And Bob, are you guys doing tonight? Great. Rode over on my bicycle. Some people call me Maurice. Maurice, nice. Some call me the gangster of love.
00:00:44
Torben Rothgeb
Okay, Bob. Yes, that's you. There'll be no tree shaking tonight. Yeah, right.
00:00:53
Torben Rothgeb
I've always loved your peaches, so here we go. I'm doing great. We're over on my bike. It's a beautiful night in Minneapolis.
Weather and Celebrations
00:01:00
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, yes. Very nice weather. Really hot one I'm always sad to see September go because I think pound for pound, it's the best weather month.
00:01:09
Torben Rothgeb
You're almost guaranteed great weather. That's a pretty good one. Mosquitoes go away. Yeah, it's great. Now, at least in Minnesota, once October gets here, anything goes.
00:01:20
Torben Rothgeb
Could be great. Some scary snowstorms. And generally by Halloween, it's, you know, the kids are out in their winter coats or you can have blizzards and stuff. So, yes. you.
00:01:33
Torben Rothgeb
It is scary. And speaking of scary, this is our 13th episode. So we got all kinds of scary stuff, including the phone. That's not your phone, is it? It is my phone. I thought you left your satchel upstairs.
00:01:47
Torben Rothgeb
I did. I thought he left it at Nornicon. ah I find myself in times of trouble.
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Torben Rothgeb
Also known as the man purse. and more
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Torben Rothgeb
i'll be sure to wear it to detroit all right well speaking of nordicon yeah we it it was nice i was telling jim i felt like we'd kind of been in a a slump because we'd have uh every show i've gone to seemed like it was down as far as cars and So it was nice to finally have something.
00:02:30
Torben Rothgeb
ah you know I think we we took in a record. 600 models. Yes. Well, one of the big things, too, is we shut the door. So the Jim Allens of the world who are sneaking in. It was too late. yeah and i got We got everyone.
00:02:44
Torben Rothgeb
We had the wristband. Scott Gladstein did a great job up front. Bill Reed did a great job. We got a bunch of vendors. Everyone. Jim was the head judge. Cratch the whip. It was great. We made money. we we we had 600 models.
00:02:58
Torben Rothgeb
I left with a great vibe because I talked to so many people who hadn't been there before. And I just put the moves on all these people and was like, it was great. The moves? No, no. I mean, just to get them to come back next year and stuff. It was great. And kudos for having the Gundams.
00:03:15
Torben Rothgeb
It was great. Those guys came. And I could always tell I could see them coming in the room. you know i mean it that was a riot yeah It was funny because Cameron and I were working the gate, and so we were taking the money, and then we had these um the wristbands that we had to put around there, right? you know so And I was doing most of the spectator ones, right? um Because one was green and one was...
00:03:38
Torben Rothgeb
orange or something like that anyway so i had most of those and so this one uh girl comes in uh must have been for a gundam because there's no such thing as girls no no girls come to a model and so uh she's got this naval ring and this thing and you know her yeah yes yeah yeah i thought you would the gundam people anyway i'm uh i take her money i'm getting ready uh to put her wristband and and cam's all i got this one
00:04:09
Torben Rothgeb
He's listening. So it was. From
Model Car Show Experiences
00:04:16
Torben Rothgeb
beyond the grave. Okay. Be nice.
00:04:21
Torben Rothgeb
It was just a wristband pat. Honest. Cut him off now. We did the match. and We did. monster man hey cameron oh you guys anyway it was uh it was a great show i left with a really good vibe like we really did a great job 2026 yeah it went well yeah yeah well so it was great but coming up well hold on hold on i want to talk about me because i feel like that's what people tune in to hear about me about
00:04:52
Torben Rothgeb
I want to talk about me, what I like. Okay, go ahead. You talk about me. I'm going to eat some this goddamn sugar. No, I... Or some. You'll be a bomb.
00:05:03
Torben Rothgeb
Nice. No, I was as glad that I had the ah my Bobby Allison collection there. and but i think I don't know. Maybe I got in a gold before, but it was it's been a long time.
00:05:17
Torben Rothgeb
So i also got out of a slump. for having the collect can you make a little more noise out there um uh to get uh to get a goal for that because i put a lot of effort into all of those cars are hard to build most well deserved well thank you thank you well yeah basically i had every coke car from 70 to 74 and none of them are easy because they're all crude kits where you have to do a lot of kit bashing um or in the case of the 71 mercury 69 Mercury, I guess, but he ran it in 79. How many of were white?
00:05:51
Torben Rothgeb
They were, well, they were, that was resin. So that, yes, and you got that beautiful gold. And that's all, you know, paint gold through the airbrush. any know It can be thick. That's that's a tough color to paint. Yeah, you did a great job on So that was great. And then i had two silvers I got were both cars that meant a lot to me because I had, as a kid, I'd gotten that 55 Corvette several times.
00:06:15
Torben Rothgeb
And like many of the things I got when I was kid, I never built. But then Alan James ah was selling one when he was getting rid of his stuff years ago. Really? Oh, my. This is the one you built? Yes.
00:06:28
Torben Rothgeb
Wasn't that a white elephant or something? No, i it was a stalled project. Oh, that's a stalled project. and When I bought it, like i well like I have a tendency to I'll buy it, I'll go home, I'll work on it for like 20, 30 hours, and then something else will come along.
00:06:45
Torben Rothgeb
And so then... For the MSM club, I had to bring three stall projects, and that was one of them. I was like, wow, this is almost done. And so I got that together. And then also I've talked about the Mustang before, but it was great to you know get that Grabber Lime Mustang.
00:07:03
Torben Rothgeb
So was ah you know it was it was nice. You did pretty well then. Yes. You were in BG? I called it a miracle day.
00:07:14
Torben Rothgeb
more stuff about myself i apologize but i got to drive the impala there the impala ran great i heard about that shop that worked on the impala did a great job yeah because was a little nervous about it you know breaking down or this and that um and then backfire at all or anything no no not at all wow and so then it was a great show at nordicon and then we went out for leah's birthday that night and so that went really well um Just be glad you weren't there because we went to karaoke.
00:07:45
Torben Rothgeb
and so Did sing? Are you serious? Oh, yeah. I sang. All right. Where'd you go sing? The kids, they really were like egging me on. And they signed me up. yeah You're going have a laugh with this one. But the kids were doing it. So I said, you know what? I'll sing it. Get in there.
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Torben Rothgeb
Sing. Take a guess. If I were to sing
New Releases and 3D Printing
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Torben Rothgeb
a George Michael song, which one you think it would be? want your sex. I told them right off the bat when they said, show I'm not doing that one.
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Torben Rothgeb
Did Faith. That's a great That's a great song. No, they ended up having a careless whisper. Oh, you and you're never going to dance again. That's precious. and we're gonna have a shame Nobody recorded that.
00:08:29
Torben Rothgeb
That was the one thing I said right away because, you know, the social media, everything goes out. said, I am not going to see this on Facebook something. No recording whatsoever. I'll make a big ah ass out of myself. i have no problem with that.
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Torben Rothgeb
But I do not want to record it. Coworkers or whoever else. I was hoping you'd do Wake Media. That's pretty good. yeah yeah Torben, that's not fantastic. also did an Adele song, Easy On Me.
00:08:55
Torben Rothgeb
That was amazing. wow cut but i gotta i always make I gotta say Adele's really talented. She's good singer. She had a hard time pulling it on. I did much better um Don't Stop Believing.
00:09:09
Torben Rothgeb
ah was ah You did that one too? Oh, that's a great song. Just a small town girl. Yes, exactly. Alright, back to model cars. Let's go to what's coming up. But enough about me. Let's get back to model cars.
00:09:26
Torben Rothgeb
So So we got Nordicon, it was a great show, great turnout. um The little box guy got me for a couple more. you know you You can't help yourself because you got ah you can buy one or two for $20, or you can do three for $15. So at that point, $40 for Cameron
00:09:49
Torben Rothgeb
So that I ended up getting a 60 resin ah Plymouth, ah like the Petty car I got. this fine do the petty one This one actually comes with an underside and an interior bucket. So I don't have to pull that out. That's cool.
00:10:02
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, chassis. Just a pan? or Well, the one I got from the dungeon just had the body, and I had to come up with everything else you know from the parts box. And so then I also got, and I know you're not a big fan of it, most Mopar enthusiasts are not, but the 70 Kuda Saksimartin, because that's hard to find. I'm not a big fan. Ravel one, ah you know because you don't see it anymore. Oh, it's it's got some good parts and stuff, and it's not totally worthless.
00:10:32
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, absolutely. For $15. Well, I guess less than $15. Yeah, $15, I guess. Okay. And then third one, and I just had to buy one more. So, you know, I love my floppers, my funny cars. So I just got another Vega.
00:10:45
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, I love my Vegas too. So the flat face Vega. Flat nose, you mean? Wow. Yeah. Okay. All right. And you enjoy pain. It's okay. Yes.
00:10:55
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Well, and then with Nordicon in the rear view, we're looking at the windshield, and it's Detroit Rock City coming coming up. City coming baby. so And that leads us to our question of the month. Two and a half weeks.
00:11:10
Torben Rothgeb
Our topic. Yes, with Detroit coming up. Do you have any holy grails? Do you... You know I think it's more a Jim's era, you know, kind of the growing up in the early sixties with all the annuals. And usually those guys have a lot of these, all of you know, some of his favorites, all the Tom Daniels, Ed Roth, all the drag stuff.
00:11:39
Torben Rothgeb
Actually, no, there's nothing. There's nothing in the, Holy grail that I... I think because you got most of them. No, that's it's the truth. I'm looking for if someone's selling 43rd collections.
00:11:53
Torben Rothgeb
I'd like to see if someone's selling and getting rid of some of their 43rds. Allegedly at Nationals, there was a guy, so Larry Laborskin, I have been texting back and forth. He said there was a guy selling tons of 43rds. Really? like I didn't see him there, but you know I don't know. No, this is the Nationals, IPMS Nationals. Oh, this year.
00:12:13
Torben Rothgeb
This year. so i mean I was in, what was it, Virginia? Virginia. So something like that pops up. I'll buy some stuff. We'll be on there now. You know, I was thinking, the rather than God knows I have enough unbuilt cars, but I should maybe try to just do one ah car, you know, one of those, um you know, maybe the ah early 70s Pro Street MPC ones Pro stock. Yeah.
00:12:46
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. pa I thought you have something going with Eric on that. Well, the ah the Mopar missile or Motown missile. Yes. like what one And you're building one or something.
00:12:58
Torben Rothgeb
Well, and and maybe you can clarify this with your great Mopar and drag background. um that theby Now, I have the orange Barracuda, and we talked about I need new bumpers and stuff ah for that.
00:13:13
Torben Rothgeb
So buying the actual MPC Mopar missile Cuda wouldn't really be worth it or not? No, it would. I mean, well, you're you're talking about two different cars now.
00:13:27
Torben Rothgeb
the The Motown missile came first, and then the Mopar missile. was second. So the Motown missile was a CUDA and also a Challenger. ah huh The Mopar missile was a duster.
00:13:39
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. okay So they switched, you know, annuals. Yeah. where They were in the same, you know, years or whatever. So, um, and so then what is he how different, I guess, how different is the CUDA from the orange, uh, one they released in the eighties?
00:13:59
Torben Rothgeb
Not that different. Not that different. All right, and then... You're a good builder. I could show you how to fix it. Great, great. And you have one, right? and Yes. In that case, I won't pay the $250, $300. two fifty three The hardest part is the is the bumpers.
00:14:13
Torben Rothgeb
And you could find any of those kudas from... 71, I mean... Even the Revelle one? No, no, no. Let's let's forget the Revelle one. good talk I'm talking about the orange one. Yeah, yeah. That's the MPC kit. Yes.
00:14:29
Torben Rothgeb
If you found a Johan Kuda, which you probably might have one, yes. You could use those bumpers. Yes, okay. To make the Motown missile.
00:14:40
Torben Rothgeb
Or even our great friend Bob Ferrara cast. Well... and If he actually comes to another movie. Yes. He was at Nordicon, you know.
00:14:50
Torben Rothgeb
I know. Without anything. missed chance. I missed my chance. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, no, it's it's doable. Yeah. Okay. Now, ah along those same lines, how different is the Plymouth Duster, ah but and that is the Mopar
History of Model Kits
00:15:07
Torben Rothgeb
Missile at that point? Yes, correct. Mopar Missile.
00:15:09
Torben Rothgeb
How different is that from the Duster that they just released not too long ago and released all throughout the eighty s Okay, so the history of MPC. Yeah. This is this is goes for all the annuals, okay?
00:15:22
Torben Rothgeb
So whether it was a Camaro, whether was a Duster, whatever it was... give you an example. Camaro. Okay. NPC does a 70 Camaro. What do they do in 71? They do 71 Camaro.
00:15:35
Torben Rothgeb
They take the tooling from 70 and update it to 71. Mm-hmm. So the 70 kit is no longer... Yeah....doesn't no longer exist. No. So that's the same with the dusters.
00:15:48
Torben Rothgeb
So seven you'd want to do the 72 or 73 duster Mopar missile. Okay. You would have to find 72 or duster kit... Because if you go newer than that...
00:16:00
Torben Rothgeb
then you're into... What was the one they released throughout the 80s? Was it a 75 or something? Yeah, it was it was cobbled up parts from the old Mopar missile and the annual duster kit.
00:16:13
Torben Rothgeb
It's actually like a um Dart Sport, which has different a different grill. different Okay. I mean, it can be So in the case of that one, it would be worth paying the extra money.
00:16:23
Torben Rothgeb
It could be. For the Mopar missile. Well, I mean, there's there's more of those kits out there, so They might not be as expensive. I mean, you might be able to find a built-up because there was a Soxamartin duster, yeah the Mopar missile duster.
00:16:40
Torben Rothgeb
There was a um ah different different drivers. But anyway, and shorts you know long story short, you can find them.
00:16:52
Torben Rothgeb
Those are a little more easy to find, but it depends on how bad you want. Yeah. Well, you know, ah if I'm just going by the spring show. ah Yeah, because you've already had you've already had a taste of what it's like. Weber and I went to.
00:17:07
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, they ah they had one, like, this guy had ah just a bunch of tables, and he had all kinds of, you know, pretty much all of those tables.
00:17:19
Torben Rothgeb
MPC, ah you know, pro stocks. But they were pricey though. Yeah, they were. I mean, they weren't out of their world. They were about 200, 300. um It wasn't killing you, but it was, you know, was going to put a dent in your wallet at the same time too.
00:17:35
Torben Rothgeb
But what do you work for? Yeah, yeah, no. And I, you know, I bought a Charger 500 for $18 or maybe $15. Maybe it was $18. I thought it was $15. That's my thriftiness.
00:17:49
Torben Rothgeb
um And started working on that. You were working on in the backseat from what John Zweber was saying. Well, at the hotel room. We got back to the hotel room. Well, you know, and I had to, that night I came home and was after betting my uncle $20 because he worked at University of Kentucky in Illinois playing Kentucky in the basketball tournament that night.
00:18:12
Torben Rothgeb
fortunately And so i I had to work off my aggression somehow. So I started working on that kit. There wasn't a karaoke machine in my car. No, no. George Rickles, sad now. Yeah. So actually, I was pretty good. I only bought a 75 Camaro. And that was $40. It was a good price. That's not bad. I bought the Charger 500 for $15.
00:18:39
Torben Rothgeb
And then I got that Dodge NASCAR truck ah for like $35. That's Well, hoping to find something. You said there's a lot of vendor tables, so I'm looking forward to it. to it It'll be great.
00:18:50
Torben Rothgeb
you know Yeah. yeah And it'll be interesting to see the difference because the one I went to was a judged one, and this one will be the NNL style. Okay. It'd be fantastic. And then, of course, Buddy's Pizza.
00:19:03
Torben Rothgeb
Go back to that. And John even said that he got the hotel near one of the Buddy's Pizzas. So it might be walking distance. Maybe we'll get John liquored up. and Didn't you guys go there twice while you were there? No, we just went once.
00:19:16
Torben Rothgeb
The place we went to twice was right by the show. But and the show is going a different place, so it's not going to be. But... um the It's getting scary. It is getting scary around here. but But no, that was a real good place. And that was the one we saw all the guys from.
00:19:36
Torben Rothgeb
We actually needed you there, Bob, because. Shocking. Shocking. Well, we get back, we go back to the same restaurant and the lady at the thing, it was really funny. It's me, Chad Trust and Johns Weber come to the door and it's like, are you guys from the party? And then I started feeling, yeah, well, what kind of party is this?
00:19:56
Torben Rothgeb
The toy car party. right there. You're talking about yeah your ego just back and taking a hit. so Why would I need to be? I'm thinking about what about... I didn't have a car shirt on. What about my appearance says I was at a toy car show party?
00:20:13
Torben Rothgeb
Are you saying that I ooze that? so Then I was like, no, I don't think we didn't make reservations. Such a little girl. Then while we're there, his nose they had this 22 twenty the table of 20 people that came in and there' was all the people from the Detroit show, but none of us really felt like going up and introducing ourselves and stuff. But if we had Bob there, I'm sure that would have been something. I would have broken bread. You could break glass to get into that building. so so but you know From the, from the caspers. Yeah. yeah laura Well, those are you know timeless memories. i never been lost
00:20:58
Torben Rothgeb
Thank you, Robert Redford. Anyway, an ode to Robert Redford. All right, favorite Robert Redford movie. so so not A lot of good ones.
00:21:10
Torben Rothgeb
All Presence Men was great. That was great. The ah the outlaw on Butch Cassidy. I can't swim. The sting. The sting is great. yeah The natural is decent.
00:21:22
Torben Rothgeb
It was a little corny. It's not in my top five for baseball movie not me movies or sports movies. It's watchable. yeah Yeah, my favorite part is the one, well, shut up, you old boozer.
00:21:35
Torben Rothgeb
He's throwing the whammer. It's supposed to be the Babe Ruth character. Like I told Bob, I said, my father, when I was like 13, he took us to see Jeremiah Johnson at the theater. Oh, God. Now that my least favorite one. was 13 years old. mean, we were like confused. It's a good film. It was a really good show, but at the time, it was like. At the time, you were like 13.5.
00:21:58
Torben Rothgeb
What is this? movie This is really bizarre. You know, the Indian woman that couldn't speak English. Right. Oh, God, yeah. i mean it was it was really well done. Didn't that get, like, best Oscar or something? I know. He was always nominated. It's a family joke in our family.
00:22:12
Torben Rothgeb
What's that? We were up at Gunflint Lodge. And this place was so old, it had all these VHS things, right? And so my mother and father-in-law are there and theyre and we're talking about movies.
00:22:25
Torben Rothgeb
And my father-in-law says, you should watch Jeremiah Johnson. And so we're you know getting settled in the cabin lifestyle, and Leah's doing a puzzle, and of course, got a car out, and I'm cutting parts off the trees. Good man. Yeah. Why why don't we we put in Jeremiah Johnson?
00:22:41
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, my gosh. I mean, if Robert Redford had a ah style, it was very slow-developing stuff. I think this generation couldn't even handle that.
00:22:53
Torben Rothgeb
And even his last movie, because we went to the Riverview that had the old man and a gun or something. Old man and a gun. Yeah, I didn't. And that moved pretty slow. And he was a great director, too. He directed Ordinary People.
00:23:04
Torben Rothgeb
He directed. this Yeah, that was really good. He did. Oh, crap. I can't remember it. But it was a really good. It was a good directorial piece. They did. So. Anyway, i'm I digress. Let's on. Yes, we digress. Why don't we move on the to new releases? We're getting closer to the 60 Chevy wagon. Any interest in that one?
00:23:26
Torben Rothgeb
Well, think Ralph's got like six or seven cases for the next MCCM. And Ralph is going to break some records at MCCM. think he's going to break records on that thing. I can see Tom Hoffman doing that. These guys will it, Scott is getting so great in his figure. Scott will build one out of the box without a paint. With his figure building, he could probably have a whole carload of people loaded up in the wagon, a whole family.
00:23:50
Torben Rothgeb
but one One thing we have to – I don't mean to segue back into the past, but there was a highlight in the Nordicon show, yeah and that was Leroy ogling over the – oh What's the 3D printed car that was there that John's Weber built one?
00:24:09
Torben Rothgeb
The Tucker. Tucker. tucker Tucker, yes. he was He couldn't stop looking at it. Okay. You know, with love in his eyes. And I asked him, he's like, I've got a model house one, I'd really like to get a couple of these. I'd like to do like a convertible one um and maybe a two-door hard top. Don't. Don't.
00:24:30
Torben Rothgeb
Well, yeah those aren't cheap, though. No, they're like $180. I know. wow i mean He's on Medicare. He could probably sell about four of his Johan Roadrunners. yeah Anyway, it was it was a memorable moment of the show because oh funny he sat there and looked at it for quite a while. Oh, my goodness. Leroy is passionate about it. He's passionate.
00:24:52
Torben Rothgeb
He is a professional. he is. and what was he he was really looking for that... Oh, my gosh. What was it? And I have a cousin who has a funeral home who has a million of these cars.
00:25:04
Torben Rothgeb
You talk about a business that's really good. pack. He's in the funeral home business. I didn't see that coming at all. And that's, you know, you talk about recession proof, right? um But anyway, he's next to this funeral home, yeah ah he's got probably 30 or 40 cars.
00:25:22
Torben Rothgeb
Unfortunately, he's really into these Packards. It does nothing for me. Who's this? Well, Royce. Yes, Royce Byer, I believe is his name. um He did my dad's funeral.
00:25:34
Torben Rothgeb
And so, um you know, after I got over the loss of my dad and all that grieving... I was able to go next door and look at a bunch of old cars, which was really cool. He had all these Packards. Leroy had, he really wanted this resin Packard. He did. That he thought, and who was the gentleman that passed away? Moo, this is a scary show. We're talking a lot of death tonight.
00:25:56
Torben Rothgeb
It was Mike Schauer, but he didn't pass away. Mike Schauer hasn't passed away. but he moved, he got rid of all the stuff. Okay, so Leroy really thought that he had of those resins. yeah And then what was that? It was like at the very end of Packard that they made. they made ah it was a And I remember Royce talking about, my cousin talking about wishing wanting one.
00:26:20
Torben Rothgeb
um Packard car, I mean? Yes. They made Caribbean. That's it. That's it. Yes, Packard. It was really nice looking car, but I mean, they were, at that point, they were on their way out. Because they merged with what? Didn't they merge with two other companies? Hudson, Packard, and somebody merged at the very end. Hudson was going down the tubes that point, They all were, yes, yes.
00:26:41
Torben Rothgeb
They merged with the Avanti. Yes. At least the Caribbean was good looking car. Yeah. so So the Chevy wagon and then a 65 Plymouth Cuda. Talk about cases. I think our buddy Tyler is going to have a case of those. well I'm sure he's lined up to do the kit review.
00:27:03
Torben Rothgeb
Is it going to be the fastback or is it going to be the – Yeah, I think because the coupe is a valiant. me Okay, so the Cuda would always be right. i I wouldn't know. so You should learn from Tyler. yeah He can give you a history lesson.
00:27:17
Torben Rothgeb
I'm sure you should spend some time. Anyway, no, it's a 65 Fastback. Okay. And it will sell like popcorn. Okay. You think it's going to sell good?
00:27:27
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, yeah, i do. You know, and it's been it's been a long time. Well, Leroy, that's one of his favorites. I guess. but He bought one for me one time, and he paid all in my quarters. Yeah.
00:27:38
Torben Rothgeb
Nice. Shut up. You ready to play some poker after that? Wow. And of course it wasn't the... um The Fairlane, so you don't have to worry about that. You know, the 66 Fairlane that I remember I sold them that one. Oh, yes. And so then when I did Andretti car, I had to cut the ding-dang windows up.
00:27:59
Torben Rothgeb
The ding-dang windows. Yes. But you did it. I did it. So anyway, so yeah, so the MPC 67 Charger Street Machine, which hasn't been out for a while. Mm-hmm. um It's 82 Petty Grand Prix. What's that?
00:28:14
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Well, Salvinos. It's double kit, isn't it? Yes. After the lovely ah but ah Buddy Baker Monte Carlo because you can never have enough of those 77 Monte Carlos. Especially at $54.95. Yes. BBMC. Sign me up for a Yes.
00:28:32
Torben Rothgeb
Well, you know, the one I wish I would have suggested for them to do And I know ah in 81, Bobby Allison drove so many different cars, but he drove a Regal that JD Stacy sponsored, that but still had the black, the gray ghost.
00:28:48
Torben Rothgeb
um And of course, he won in the two races they ran in that paint scheme. I would much rather have that paint scheme. um than a Buddy Baker. And the car in the box is cool. You're doing with the Monte Carlo now? Yes.
00:29:02
Torben Rothgeb
But that body is so bad, though. That's what I'm saying. The car in the box is cool for this Buddy Baker car, but then you open the box, and then it's a lot of work. Just ask Tom Pinch. Yes, yes, a lot of work.
00:29:13
Torben Rothgeb
um But after that, then their next one up is the Petty Double Kit, so you can build the Petty version and the Kyle Petty one, because then it's both...
00:29:25
Torben Rothgeb
81 and 82, they both ran reverse schemes. Oh, okay. So, um you know, it'd be, and speaking of multiple decal packages, Finally, and listening to our first first show, we were talking about this, but now it actually up for pre-order. It's the Jimmy Clark 65 Lotus 38, and they're going multiple decal versions, so you can do the green and yellow. Isn't it four versions?
00:29:57
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, you can do two for each year, 65 on 66. sixty five r im sixty six So you can do the Jimmy Clark one that he won at Indy in 65, right? And did he win the F1 championship? they and Not that in that car, but he won in for the Lotus.
00:30:13
Torben Rothgeb
He won in the Lotus 33 to win the championship in 65. Okay. So he just ran the Lotus for Indy, the Lotus 38. Because it had a Ford engine. About two years in a row, though.
00:30:25
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And then he ran a Lotus 33 for the rest of the year in F1? Lotus 33 was F1. It had a cli Coventry Climax in it. And then the 60. So by then, Indy didn't count as an F1 race? No, it was long past.
00:30:38
Torben Rothgeb
What was the last year Indy was an F1? 58, 59. Okay. All right. Didn't he race the SDP car at the 500? In 66, he raced the SDP car. The SDP color Wasn't that 38? and sixty six he race the scp car scp color wasn isn't that thirty eight That was the same car. And then Al Unser also rode, right?
00:30:55
Torben Rothgeb
Al Unser Senior. Yeah. I so senior know i'd id only know about the Clark car. Because I recognize the – You that's one the ones that they're doing yeah decals for. Yep. Al Unser Senior? Yeah, in 66 SDP.
00:31:06
Torben Rothgeb
And then I couldn't remember the guy from 65. Yep. yeah ah The other 65 car. Hold on a second. So what what did Graham Hill drive then in 66? 66, well, he won. He in the Lola.
00:31:18
Torben Rothgeb
So that was a different – he drove for a different team that year. Okay. And so he might have driven his car. I know, I know. Wasn't he with the team car? Wasn't he with Jim Clark in 65? No, it's a guy I didn't recognize. He drove BRM still. They mentioned him on the decal. Who was the other driver in 65? That I don't know.
00:31:38
Torben Rothgeb
so Where's Cameron when you need him? What the hell? You should know these things. It could be Mike Spence. I don't know exactly. Well, speaking of that, what do you think would be the best green for that?
00:31:49
Torben Rothgeb
It's going to be a British race. Isn't it going to be molded in green? Yeah, but if you wanted to paint it. yeah um Because it's not metallic at all. To me, a green is dead knot's eye. It's really good. Yeah, and it's not metallic.
00:32:03
Torben Rothgeb
no No. Well, it' it's actually isn't it actually called British Racing Green? If it's not, but it it is the same color. i Okay. Look at Fat Bob's version that he built. Mm-hmm.
00:32:15
Torben Rothgeb
And he built ah he he built a Model Factory Hero one? He built the Ebro kit. Ebro kit. But ins beautiful job it's a beautiful model. And then 66 car has got the infamous STP, Dave Gold. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:29
Torben Rothgeb
yeah so That's the one Bob's going to build. You're going to build that one? Yep. so yeah because He's already started it. Unfortunately, a million people are going to build the 65 one, but I don't care.
00:32:40
Torben Rothgeb
want build as many indie winners as possible. If they do it and if it sells well, would be great if he does another one. And it's expensive. what I think the problem will be? If he does another one.
00:32:51
Torben Rothgeb
Jim, I mean, Salvino. Rick Salvino. What other ones would they do? Well, they want to do the Lotus 64. No, you can't do the 38 again, though. No, but if he did another Indy car. Lotus 64, he's going to – I think that's where – because Rick was real happy last night because he was thinking he was going to do the next three that he wants to do, which is the Lotus 64, and then he wants to do the McLaren 16. M16, yeah. What's that? 72 to 74.
00:33:18
Torben Rothgeb
seventy two to seventy four mclaren's and then it's a gurney eagle or some kind of well there's a bunch of gurney eagles yeah from then that early 70 to 75 era yeah hopefully it'd be the one that gurney won the indy 500 he never won he never won it so where does the super bird come in into play then uh uh by a johan that's where the super bird comes into play um Yeah, you know they and you know kudos to them. they They put a lot of stuff out there, and I had my own moment of weakness where I ordered that one.
00:33:54
Torben Rothgeb
moment, right? I'm buying stuff anyway, so why not get the Alex Pillow one? You got the Alex Pillow card too? Well, on the Builders Club, they're only 63.
00:34:05
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, only? I'll take two. What a bargain. Free shipping, too. So you know how much is the is the Lotus on the Colossus? 199. Did it stop there?
00:34:22
Torben Rothgeb
It did stop there. So 199 plus 63. Oh, the Polo car is cool. Well, so let's see. So you had, what is it now? to dwell $2.12. $2.63. No, how much is the Lotus? $1.99 for Builders Club members. Oh, really? Yeah.
00:34:39
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. By God, I'm still not going to join. Well, that is, you know, when you get stuck with... That's what it should be anyway. But anyway, that's my... So it's $2.25. So Cameron and I have one. We have one. like yours was $2.25. Right. Yes.
00:34:56
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. And then you get free shipping and and of Builders Club. Well, whatever. I mean, it's going to be a while, so it's fine. So I can get rid of the IMC kit I have. The one you got for me. Right, yeah. Good luck. Yeah, I know. Oh, you'll get rid it. Anyway, it's great.
00:35:11
Torben Rothgeb
Zweber mentioned some stuff he was going to give me that you put on the metal stuff that makes the metal stuff look like chrome. Not that I want it to look chrome, but it cleans it up really good. The white metal, you mean? Yeah.
00:35:23
Torben Rothgeb
Any idea what that's called? It starts with a C, but I can't remember what he said it was. cocaine no sorry good guess so so it's it's like a clear it's like a paint yeah he said when i was talking about it he said i i can give you some stuff that will clean up that that metal and make it look just like chrome he has one of those machines or whatever it is he puts these metal parts in okay it's uh it tumbles around i'm i'm naive about it so okay rock rock tumbler
00:35:57
Torben Rothgeb
That's the first thing it came to mind. It's a Mattel toy. Sounds like. But he he just he does these parts look great. i'm just Cameron has one, too. you and He does not.
00:36:12
Torben Rothgeb
And I'm just like... Agates? no No, it's this machine that cleans up... Of course it does. Cameron's still in the box. He bought a T-Roll six-wheeler. A 43rd.
00:36:24
Torben Rothgeb
and is ah tao a forty third John Weber did. And so he he's put it in there and he i took it out of the box at one of our soirees and he showed it to me and it was like, my God, it's like it looks like chrome.
00:36:37
Torben Rothgeb
And I'm like, wow. You could build it like that. Probably too shiny, just like the 2K clear. Cut him off Well, you know, John's such a perfectionist. He was talking about redoing the chrome on his Tucker before he goes to Detroit.
00:36:52
Torben Rothgeb
so Wow. Seriously? Yeah. He talked me into buying a $30 can of that Revell chrome. But then he said he wanted to redo it. Have you tried yet? I have not. I've got two cans. you won't say you won't say anything after you try it.
00:37:06
Torben Rothgeb
Well, speaking of chrome know and new new products, yeah we have this. It's called Fusion Firm Ultra Shining Fluid Silver Foil. And I was really impressed, at least at the 143rd level, able to brush it on over nothing, no black or anything like that. you weren't following Dan Loria's lead on his? No. What did he say? To paint a black underneath?
00:37:30
Torben Rothgeb
No. He said paint it with a brush. It's got a brush in I used to brush in But that's what I'm getting at is that that's what he said to do. It's definitely an acrylic, right? yeah Party's over.
00:37:42
Torben Rothgeb
Well, and he said, unlike a lot of the chrome stuff, um that not that I handled any of it. um But he said it's it's much more durable than the Alclad. So what's the screw-a-lock chrome marker over there, my man? Well, this was another thing that was... i don't know if I got it free with the other stuff or I just saw it and bought more of it. But... It was another one of those impulse buys. These pens are great, too.
00:38:09
Torben Rothgeb
um What I like to do now, like... You know, now the Salvino's gear shifts are not chrome because they don't do any chrome. What I do is I'll paint the gear shift black and then I'll take one of these pens and do the chrome part in between the knob and the bottom of it. And it comes out really good.
00:38:28
Torben Rothgeb
So you don't know where you got that from? It just showed up on your doorstep? Same place. And this is Sherlock, S-R-U-O-L-O-C, Chrome Marker. So this is this guy?
00:38:39
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, same guy. so And it's amazon much cheaper than, because what was the one that came out? Super expensive. They're expensive now. This is much cheaper than that, and every bit is good.
00:38:51
Torben Rothgeb
Okay, good cool. Good product. know, because I did like the green stuff also has a really good color. You'll have to bring that to the IMCCM meeting. Show them that. Yeah, show them that. Yeah. not Because, you know, there's a lot of them that did only use the pen. They won't use foil, yeah.
00:39:07
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. so Well, okay no, this is good stuff. Cool. Thanks. um And then, you know what, have you noticed with the AK markers, because I do like the AK markers too, um do they have a blue one? Because I really think the blue one would be great for doing the blue streak tires, the blue.
00:39:25
Torben Rothgeb
but You don't think that would work? It might, it depends on how high the, Depends on how big the wheels and tires are. And, I mean, it's you're going to have, like, one shot to do it. Well, I'm thinking with that. I know. you're going to use, like, a template or something?
00:39:39
Torben Rothgeb
I was going to do it with the Donahue Javelin because they they have those great Dohan wheels. And was going to try. I know you probably – uh probably find new tires for that don't use a pi yes so the the ak markers i mean i've gotten all three four of them and i've i've really enjoyed they do work good i'm assuming they're going to come out with some more colors yeah they would be stupid not to well the one i the thing i like best about them and i use them for um you know my nascar truck um
00:40:13
Torben Rothgeb
And the windows around my 90s, I did a Grand Prix. And I used to use the Sharpie one, even the Sharpie industrial one. But the thing I didn't like about it, they covered good, but if you wanted to do a second coat, something about the chemical in there would take off the first coat. It wouldn't necessarily work together.
00:40:31
Torben Rothgeb
But with the AK, you can put as many coats on and it builds up. record that's And it's acrylic. And it's acrylic so you can wipe off. I've used it for a long time. I'm working on a Porsche. I'm in a Ferrari 512 now and I'm doing around the windows and inside the inside where I put the window in. I just put the end of it. sees I just take a little Q-tip with some water and wipe it away after it gets on clear paint.
00:40:52
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, on the clear over paint. Yeah. some They're great. No, it's good stuff and its very convenient. you know I mean, say what you want. Maybe we're just getting lazy with each passing year, but anytime you use a brush and clean a brush,
00:41:06
Torben Rothgeb
you're looking at least three minutes, maybe five minutes, or a dab on the marker. If it's a little spot, you know, it's just like somewhere where they cut it off the sprue or something like that, it's much easier. I mean, I looked at it even if I'm doing an airplane.
00:41:21
Torben Rothgeb
yeah Sorry to interject that. But, I mean, if I masked off the canopy, you know, and I wanted to do the canopy as bare metal, you know, I can just take the aluminum one and do this, and I'm done. You know, so.
00:41:34
Torben Rothgeb
yeah Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, it's good stuff for AK markers. and they're And they're still pretty reasonably priced. Oh, yeah. For sure. That's pretty cheap. Yeah. yeah Yeah. So suffice to say, when the Nationals were held in Madison last year, they were sold out by Thursday night.
00:41:50
Torben Rothgeb
Mm-hmm. You know, there was there were none available for Friday. And they were selling those 20 packs, right? Oh, and they were just all sold. Yep. Mm-hmm. You know, I was just like, hey, I'd like to buy some of those. And now I got a few random ones left, and that's it.
00:42:02
Torben Rothgeb
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right. All right. Well, that gets us to our question of the month. And speaking of moments of weaknesses, um I ordered a lot of stuff off of Jay's Model Garage, LLC.
00:42:20
Torben Rothgeb
um out in old Hamburg, New York. Anyway, and he says right away it's going to take three weeks just to fill this. So if you're one of those people who bugs people and calls them up and like, don't do don't don't do this if it's a project you got for something in two weeks you want done.
00:42:37
Torben Rothgeb
You know, it takes a little patience. It takes a while for them to print it off or Cameron, you know, he wants his stuff right away. so you can do it Oh, he's busy, you know. He's got a lot of stuff on his plate.
00:42:49
Torben Rothgeb
But no, I ordered a lot of great stuff. And, you know, because I, you know, obviously I build a lot of NASCAR stuff. And like, ah here's a good example of something I ordered. The dashboard, the dash faces, you know, like on a monogram 80s one, it comes with all the gauges already in there. So if you're going to use the decals, you got to sand that off.
00:43:11
Torben Rothgeb
And that takes a lot of time. They give you the dashboard with with the flat thing, so you could just put the decals right in there. And it's like $4. But again, it adds up if you buy three or four of them. Now you're looking at $16. Now you're I'll curse day that monogram came out to do the Junior Johnson one and they were experimenting with the exhaust dumps and the header pipes.
00:43:42
Torben Rothgeb
And so every kit after that came with these, you know, these really weird looking header dumps and exhaust pipes. So over the years, I've spent hours cutting those off, making my own out of, you know, either tubing, plastic tubing or aluminum tubing and stuff.
00:44:00
Torben Rothgeb
So 3D printer has, you know, those ready made. And again, it's saving you a bunch of time. They have the window nets. And again, you know, I have the little kit that you can make your own window nets.
00:44:12
Torben Rothgeb
That takes another two hours. And then you're cutting off the little photo edge pieces and sanding them down, dropping like five of them under your chair. Anyway, and so these save a bunch of time, you know. That's what it does.
00:44:27
Torben Rothgeb
ah The seatbelts, I think those are fabulous. Seatbelts are great. Did you get some of those from them? You have to order some. I'm going to order some. I'll order some for you. Why?
00:44:37
Torben Rothgeb
it it It saves a lot of time. It's great. Nice. love you too. I ended up with a hundred another bill for printing.
00:44:51
Torben Rothgeb
thing and so it got me to thinking for our our monthly question okay will you ever buy a three d printer and what would finally convince you to buy one and speaking of nordicon uh bernie uh did do a good presentation you sat through the whole thing i sat through the whole thing listened to it and um although i gotta say once he some of the stuff was a little ah a little intimidating with a lot of the computer stuff.
00:45:22
Torben Rothgeb
well that's That's what it is. And then thinking about that. And then like the last thing I want to do on a, after a stressful day of work is come down and they spend three hours yelling at a computer and then throwing a bunch of stuff away. So, um, but what, uh, you, what are the chances that you would ever, you have a 0% chance. Bob says zero.
00:45:45
Torben Rothgeb
Zero. So I went over to, Clint's house. This is not this last winter. think it was the winter before. and Because he's a whatever you want to call it. He's a magician with 3D printing.
00:46:00
Torben Rothgeb
And I wanted to see what it was all about. Because I figured he had a room. And boy, does he have a setup. And that pretty much just took me right out of the mix. Because it it was a whole room.
00:46:12
Torben Rothgeb
ah Well, yeah. It's it's ah it's a but it's ah what do you call it? A um rabbit hole it is a rabbit hole and um because i mean when do you say when first of all i mean the smell that of his stuff was pretty nasty i know that don static has some i don't know if it's uh sugar free here i don't know what it is but it doesn't smell but it takes longer to cure it's a water base and it doesn't yeah but it's just ah you know it's it's like you were talking about trying to save you time that's not going to save any time yeah
00:46:47
Torben Rothgeb
know I know that you think that, sure, I'd like to have six of these, but as long as they're readily available, you just buy enough. I mean, it's like the old saying, buy it when you see it, yeah and you'll be fine.
00:47:02
Torben Rothgeb
i mean it's I mean, if you look at Steve, um his stuff is is everybody as good as anybody else's, and he's just printing files. Right. So, yeah yeah you know, I think it's...
00:47:15
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, it's it's to everyone's choice or whatever. I just don't have time anymore. right I spent my, you know, many years resin casting, so I've had enough.
00:47:27
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, what about you? Well, I would say, with the caveat of it would have to be super user-friendly, you know, and shared files.
00:47:39
Torben Rothgeb
um If it got to the point where it's super user-friendly and it was so compact, I mean, I don't think I would ever really even want to print out bodies.
00:47:52
Torben Rothgeb
You need a big printer base to do that. nothing Well, think of what what it would it be that you would want to print that you don't have right now. Well, you know, like I said, the stuff I bought um from Jay's place.
00:48:04
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, the parts, that's a whole different thing. That is what I would i would mainly like. Stuff that me time. um You could buy the files. If it came and it was user-friendly enough and easy enough and probably cheap enough, then it it would be something that, ah you know, if it could only take up like half the space of a card table or something like that.
00:48:29
Torben Rothgeb
Or if it was super portable where you could just close it down, set it back up, you know. Yeah, it's hard. it's it's I mean, i know a lot people who bought them and they still sit. you know they haven't you know taken them out of the boxes and i know and you know it's or people use them and i've just most people i know that their model is buy the stuff because it's just simpler to buy it whether it's military builders airplane builders you know um you know we we should for one of these episodes we should talk about
00:49:01
Torben Rothgeb
had interesting conversations with people about three d printed models and 3D printed parts in contests. And I don't think we should get into it today, but I think we should think about that as a conversation. It's an interesting yeah thing to discuss because i you know I've run into it several times now on contests and it's really hard to judge.
00:49:22
Torben Rothgeb
Because if you take away the 3D printed stuff, what what do you have left? You have a kit that's basically built out of the box. And I'm not going to single out certain individuals, but there's certain people, that's all they do.
00:49:36
Torben Rothgeb
yeah And it might be a different scale, might be painted differently, but it's still the same animal. And so where do you draw the line?
00:49:47
Torben Rothgeb
because like in this one case, I'll just mention that it was a small scale Corvette that had photo etched parts that come in the kit. If you take that stuff out of there and you just have the bare bones kit with these 3D printed parts,
00:50:06
Torben Rothgeb
it's, it's not really that tough. You know what i mean? So is there a degree of difficulty with printing out the parts? that gives you an edge to beat out somebody that scratched. But like, if you look at that Porsche that won first place in 43rd, that thing was awesome.
00:50:24
Torben Rothgeb
You didn't have to spend five minutes looking at it. You knew it was the best one the class. Oh, it was fantastic. And, um yeah, I mean, i don't know what he used for that thing, parts that he used. I don't know either. I only met him once. When you get into those that scale...
00:50:39
Torben Rothgeb
Nine times out of ten, it has to be almost scratch built. Yep. Parts of it anyway. You look at that 43rd Daytona that was at the Nationals. Yep. Yes. That was. Had the engine. Yeah. You know, hood cut off. Beautiful. Yep. And he had started with probably a starter. Just like that one.
00:50:56
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. Starter kit. And if you take away the engine, it's a starter kit out of the box. Yeah. Basically. I mean, obviously, it's got to be painted well. and you know, it's one color. So, you know, certain people could build it. Yes. but But anyway, you know, it's it's just it's a tool to get the job done to a certain extent. But it goes like another...
00:51:22
Torben Rothgeb
chapter and ipms is going to have to deal with it at some point because they for years they were bitching about you know photo etch resin it had to be so much plastic in a kit in a model before they could you know say it was a model so they're going to have to deal with this pretty soon and a lot of the figure painters and um a lot of the warhammer stuff is all 3d printed now um you know the figure category at nordicon there was a guy that built a um a grinch did you see that with the dog that whole thing was 3d printed yep the whole thing one piece i mean it was beautiful i mean you have to paint it you have to paint it well but you can have six or seven of those things there painted differently and
00:52:12
Torben Rothgeb
where you draw life i know because it's it's really not a kit anymore no well never really was it never really was so now it's now it's your what's your skill level in painting and that's what it comes down to you know so it'll be an interesting topic for conversations as we go along yeah yeah and uh you know has anybody won a major thing with just a all 3d printed car i mean guess john's uh Tucker was all 3D printed, right? that's And that's curbside.
00:52:43
Torben Rothgeb
curbsome Right. There's Bill Cunningham has done, um i think he won some more with his, he that he did a Maserati birdcage. Oh yeah. He had the Ferrari done too. Yep. And so it'll be interesting. brings those to Acme. So whatever he finishes, he usually brings set And that's his, but that's different because he actually laid out the parts. I mean, he did yeah designed files. Yep, everything.
00:53:07
Torben Rothgeb
And made everything fit. He didn't buy the files and then put it together. It's like I've got Randy, the guy on MCCM, that's been very gracious giving me stuff and Tobin stuff. I'm Thunderbird, yeah. And I got this Ferrari. And so if I build it, i'm just I don't have to put a whole lot together. i mean, i have to put stuff together.
00:53:26
Torben Rothgeb
But everything is just mean kind of there. Yeah, I bought another one of those Fiat. ah huh you know And that's all 3D printed. But I'm going to take some parts off of it and actually...
00:53:37
Torben Rothgeb
do some kid bashing, one of your favorite things to do. And is the 3D printing stuff nice? Oh, I'll have to show it to you. Okay. It's spectacular. The thing I'm struggling with is how do I paint it?
00:53:53
Torben Rothgeb
have the same issue. Is it No, it's not about the prep. It's just that I have this chassis that's basically one piece. It's got the rear axle molded into it. wow.
00:54:05
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. But it's it's not poorly cast. It's perfect. It's like if you could paint it and then put the parts together, that would be, you'd be done. But because you have all these things connected to each other, how do you paint it?
00:54:19
Torben Rothgeb
That's going to be tricky. Because you can't really paint it all one color. No. So I'm struggling with that. The Ferrari 156 the same thing. The chassis is one piece.
00:54:30
Torben Rothgeb
The seat is separate, thank God. But the frame has to be painted. The pan underneath has to be painted. And the engine is connected to the frame. Okay, so now I've got to figure out how to paint all this.
00:54:41
Torben Rothgeb
you know Once I put primer on it, we'll have to just work on it. It's a new thing. It's a new world. It's a brand new day. and A whole new world. Well, speaking of that, ah other current projects that you guys want to talk about.
00:54:58
Torben Rothgeb
How about the Shane Van Ginsbergen car? How's that coming along? It's this close. Almost done. Yeah. Really great to see it. I tell you that the guy who built that Ryan Blaney car, that was really that really made me want to build better next gen cars.
00:55:17
Torben Rothgeb
Because like I said, um The first time I built one, I was just like, you can barely see anything. And so you know I didn't have a lot of motivation. But he really did a good of the things you can see adding that. did not look at that car. Was it well done? Oh, was really well done.
00:55:33
Torben Rothgeb
um Because you can see that if you use one of those 3D printed window nets, then you can see the seat. And there's detail that you can add to the seats. Yeah. um Yeah, and he painted the metal parts of the seat, I believe. And then um you can see from the dashboard that they have the ignition things in there on the dash.
00:55:57
Torben Rothgeb
And he wired that up and he ran a couple red wires down. the center of it that you could see. So he added enough detail. And then, you know, the paint job was one of those ah really good 2K polished out looking paint jobs.
00:56:13
Torben Rothgeb
but then ah And something tells me he didn't get the paint from Menards. No, he didn't. But it was really nicely painted. Really painted with both the blue and the fluorescent yellow. It was really good. But it was curbside, though.
00:56:29
Torben Rothgeb
Is that what he said? We didn't have the hood open. We didn't have the hood. I looked at the car quite a bit. Well, you guys judged it, right? Or were you judging this? We we judged it, and it it didn't look like the hood was open.
00:56:41
Torben Rothgeb
It looked to me like the hood was shut. Okay. So it did a good job of the home interior, what you could see. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, you can still do a great job with a curbside model. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
00:56:53
Torben Rothgeb
That was probably one of the nicest ones of those I've seen. Yeah, me too. From a finished model standpoint. Yeah. um so anyway. would be cool to see you as done.
00:57:03
Torben Rothgeb
I've got two things almost done. The Ferrari 500 that I got. It's a long story, but I won't tell it. It's a Model Factory Hero 124 scale Ferrari 500 1953 car,
00:57:15
Torben Rothgeb
for me the one car and um it was painted beautifully Um, the guy put the chassis together. I had to cut the chassis apart because he went crazy and put it all together without thinking ahead that you're to probably set the pieces inside of the chassis.
00:57:30
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And it's a model factory here. So there's a ton of parts that don't fit very well. I'm at the point of just about done and I'm doing my stalled project, which is a Ferrari 512 like Steve Hansen's. Yes. And it's a yellow, it's ah a Curry Funko Chomp yellow car.
00:57:46
Torben Rothgeb
And that's a bear and a half to build. And that one's getting close as well. So those are my two. Yeah. Now, do you think ah having Steve Hansen build his and did he did he won gold for competition on that, right? He did. yeah that's Very well deserved.
00:58:01
Torben Rothgeb
um Do you think that's helped you or hurt you? I think it's helped. It's helped me a lot looking at the pictures that I did because it's a hell of kid and it's instructions are awful. And you're looking at stuff and Steve, I've talked to him a couple of times. He said, do this, do this, do this.
00:58:15
Torben Rothgeb
and i'm like thank you okay and i just want to get it done and then i've got my you know challenge done and and and and i i love the car okay and he's provided me with tons of 3d printed parts very kindly and you know because that you know that reminds me of this uh conversation i heard years ago on the uh dan patrick show and it was a uh reality show and i i don't really watch reality shows but it was um Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie did this show where they went out to the middle of nowhere. Anyway, and Dan Patrick was talking about he never wants to hang out with guys that that look really better than him.
00:58:57
Torben Rothgeb
And that Nicole Richie hanging out with Paris Hilton was not good for her, right? Because yeah you're standing next to somebody who's really beautiful. That's only going to make you look worse. And so um did you find it intimidating that Steve Hansen did this version so well?
00:59:14
Torben Rothgeb
And then you're building the car. Not really. What a segue. It's a great segue. curious so I would have never thought of that. it's you know it's is that It's a challenge car.
00:59:25
Torben Rothgeb
So it's part of my thing that, you know, i want to do it well. Yes. But I don't feel any, you know. and This is the Ferrari you're talking about now? Yeah, the Ferrari 512. And I don't feel into like, oh, my God, I have to have mine. has to be as good as his or anything. no's it'll be it'll be just really nice to have.
00:59:40
Torben Rothgeb
And it's different enough with the paint scheme because you have the Sunoco paint scheme. It's a completely different car. Yeah. You know. And so he did things on his that, you know, didn't. look at and I go, oh, okay. Hopefully it'll be the right shade of blue. And I'm going to this instead.
00:59:59
Torben Rothgeb
you know Or yellow. yellow yeah It's good to yellow. so So anyway, it's it's just a model. You saw the green on the Steve Kinzer car, right?
01:00:11
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, my God, it's fine. It's a fine green. I'm kidding. that That's just regular tester's bottle green, which I've heard good. But it was Quaker State green. Yours looks fine. You can't always have true match at your You know what? Save me with – Yeah, no, it's pretty close. I know.
01:00:27
Torben Rothgeb
ah The thing that saved me with True Match is that, you know, the angels, ah God's Tears or whatever. Oh, that's fabulous. It's fabulous. Because that truck is just one of the nicest trucks I've seen. I know. So what does it save you on? The clear?
01:00:45
Torben Rothgeb
Well, I never really liked shooting enamels through an airbrush. Because thats it's like very heavy and the viscosity of it. It was just thick. It doesn't dry. up And yeah. And even I felt like lacquer thinner doesn't completely clean up enamel. kind of There's residue and stuff like that.
01:01:07
Torben Rothgeb
Well, they're two competing materials. They're not whatever want to call them. Compatible. Yes. So, and... so and God only knows what's in that. I don't know. I hope it doesn't kill me.
01:01:20
Torben Rothgeb
and god series yes is It really makes it smell though, does it? No. That's even scarier. Well, there's what What is the one, the gas that – well, actually, I even think ah the gas in your house would kill you, but they put smelling stuff in there.
01:01:36
Torben Rothgeb
you know There are plenty gases that will kill you and you never smell. Yeah, exactly. So you can't just do the sniff test. You're going to live forever. But, yeah no, that stuff has really turned it around for using enamels.
01:01:48
Torben Rothgeb
Do you need a defibrillator? No. Clear! No, I just used that Penske 512. five twelve And I used the tester's bottle blue.
01:02:00
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, it takes a while to dry still. But still, it makes it full. But you didn't use that much, though, right? Didn't you put a lot of paint in that one? On the blue one? Yeah.
01:02:11
Torben Rothgeb
Because you told me it took a while to dry. Oh, it took a couple weeks to dry. Because you only mixed it like 50-50. About 50-50. I didn't go, yeah. Well, you didn't use the Eric method where he just keeps getting lighter and lighter. That's the clear. That's the clear. That's not the 400.
01:02:27
Torben Rothgeb
You don't use it with a color coat. No, I just go 50-50. So that's all you needed to do? You didn't have to put a clear coat I didn't even put a clear coat on because it was super shiny. It's polished. So anyway, it's it's it's a game changer. That's a great looking truck. Thank you.
01:02:44
Torben Rothgeb
It doesn't make me want to build one, but I really like it. Well, and that was one of those kits that I'd had on my, not necessarily a bucket list. I view buck bucket lists as really only specific. things But as one of those kits I always wanted to build.
01:03:00
Torben Rothgeb
um Do you guys have any kits like that that one day you've all you've always wanted to do this one and and haven't gotten around it? Of course. Of course. What went off the top of your head, what can you think of? Right, exactly.
01:03:13
Torben Rothgeb
and no I mean, you're i mean all that all that stuff you're talking about with the pro stocks and that, that's all... things that you contemplate in your head. No, it's it's all the, you know, I have the kits, got the paint.
01:03:28
Torben Rothgeb
Let's get going. Let's get going. Mine is I've got all five Valentino Rossi motorcycles that he rode. Perfect. two Two Yamahas and three Hondas. They're sitting there.
01:03:39
Torben Rothgeb
It's like, okay, Bob, know, got to get going on. Because when I build them, I'd love to build them all at once. and you know like Because Finchie's got them all done already. So they're all... yeah Right.
01:03:50
Torben Rothgeb
So anyway. Yeah. For me, ah you know I think ah the 1 16th funny car, I need to build one of those. Whatever it is, need to Probably should be a flat-nosed Vega now if you've got another one of those and a 25th scale. you know Well, no. I've built the 25th scale ones, but I haven't built the 1 one. sixteenth one so um And while ah since I um ah suffer from ADHD, ah speaking of the flat nose vega, maybe you can tell me why the Aurora one goes for such ludicrous money when Rebelle did a flat nose vega too.
01:04:31
Torben Rothgeb
Why does that? Because again, on eBay, trolling through eBay today or yesterday, I saw one for astronomical money. what What is the difference? How much time do you have? So it's just body accuracy or chassis accuracy? Right. No, it's the Aurora series was was engineered and created to be better than the Revell kits.
01:04:56
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. So Tom West, who actually it was a good friend of mine, um He got involved with Aurora. Okay. And they wanted to do these kits. And so he did all, he was a designer, artist and he did, um, a lot of different things. But anyway, so a long story short, he developed those kits. Basically they come apart like the engine.
01:05:21
Torben Rothgeb
comes apart like a real engine. oh So it has the pistons in it. has the rods, all that stuff. So you can build it that way if you want, or you can glue all the parts together, like for the chassis and all that stuff.
01:05:34
Torben Rothgeb
But it's basically, and they had driver figures. They had all kinds of stuff. Now imagine, you know, you're a NASCAR fan, right? So imagine me, I'm going to the hobby shop.
01:05:46
Torben Rothgeb
This it happened to be... Gagers. Oh, yeah. They had the chain. Going to the Gagers store at Brookdale, and they've got a store display.
01:05:58
Torben Rothgeb
So the store display has two guys painting this funny car body on a stand in a shop. And then around the box is all these things that you can buy to accompany that kit.
01:06:11
Torben Rothgeb
So, you know, he had the body so you could have a Pinto instead of a Vega. Then you had different... part She had engines. you know It goes on and on and on.
01:06:24
Torben Rothgeb
What scale were they? 1 16th. Oh, wow. And they were reasonably priced. Dad, please. No, sorry. Anyway, so and then to add insult to injury, don't know what year it was. It was in the um they had sold the molds to Revell.
01:06:43
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, really? Because Aurora went out of business. Right. And there was a train crash. Oh, no! Derailment on the way to the... This is true story. Oh, my God! On the way to Revell in Chicago. Oh, my God.
01:06:56
Torben Rothgeb
And so all this stuff was basically lost to this train derailment. So... gee, how much do you want for that?
01:07:08
Torben Rothgeb
You so i know i looked up I lucked out in my, you know, you're talking about Holy Grails. I had multiple kits. Of the Aurora ones? Oh, yeah. I've i've still got, a you know, like one of each of most of the stuff, but um they actually did a complete car, ah Vega and a Pinto.
01:07:30
Torben Rothgeb
And, yeah. And then they had a store display. And you bought the display. haven't told you that story. No, you just bought it at the Nationals. No, so I bought a store display at Chicago Swapmeet.
01:07:44
Torben Rothgeb
I was with Andy. This was like back in the early 80s, like... And a guy had one that he was selling and he wanted like a hundred bucks for it. And, you know, being, I was only like
Selling Model Car Kits and Shows
01:07:56
Torben Rothgeb
23. It's like, if you have this thing at the end of the show, would you sell it to me for 50 bucks? I'm like, sure.
01:08:02
Torben Rothgeb
So he didn't sell it. So long and behold, Jimmy took it home and then fast forward to COVID. Yeah. Cause I had this thing. Left it in the box ah all this time.
01:08:16
Torben Rothgeb
So I you know what? It's time. twice so yes So I sold it on eBay. And I got like $3,800 for it. $3,800. Stop it. Stop it. You know, so it was.
01:08:31
Torben Rothgeb
or yeah guys remain It's an unusual cult for this Aurora thing. Well, anyway, so, yeah, so there's still, you'll still find, I actually had a like a couple of the of the kits, the car kits, and those go for, I got,
01:08:52
Torben Rothgeb
I sold a Pinto. That was my mint Pinto, and I sold that for, like, $1,400. Wow. Wow. wow And um the funny thing was, is I was in a Facebook group with a bunch of model builders that were into this. It was a 16th only club.
01:09:07
Torben Rothgeb
And they didn't know I was in this club or in this Facebook group. ah so So somebody was like posting my Facebook listings on there. They didn't know who I was. FlipBot was my nickname. Okay. Like, look what this guy is trying to get for this kit.
01:09:21
Torben Rothgeb
I'm just like laughing because like... Would you kick me out of the group if you knew it was me? So anyway, so this went on and on and on. But anyway, so no, it was a lot of fun.
01:09:31
Torben Rothgeb
yeah But I mean, it's you know it's like anything else. There's only so many of them out there. And if you want to bet, I mean, I've seen people that have stockpiled that stuff. Yeah. But I mean, it's they were really accurate at the time. You know, the decals, they were one of the cars was actually ah a real car.
01:09:50
Torben Rothgeb
So when he did the decals, it was an actual Vega. Okay, because I was wondering about that because the licensing, if they ever had any big-name drivers.
01:10:01
Torben Rothgeb
Not on the Aurora stuff. ah now On the Revell stuff. So maybe you would buy, use the decals from the Revell one and use that on Aurora. Yeah, you could do that.
01:10:12
Torben Rothgeb
Well, speaking of that, with all these accessories and all the years that you've gone to model shows, what's the best – built-up Aurora one. Did anybody ever go hog wild with all these parts oh yeah and accessories? Oh, yeah. There's a couple guys on on Facebook that are... But did you see any of them at shows or anything that won anything? I've never seen any at any shows.
01:10:36
Torben Rothgeb
Most of the stuff I've seen you know that you've been to the same shows at, the 16th stuff is pretty few and far between. There was a guy who used to go to Milwaukee. I can't remember Greg. The security guy. He built him on the clock. right Yeah, Greg. can't remember his name.
01:10:53
Torben Rothgeb
Really nice guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's he was a security guy, and that's all he did. so he would And I would go to mil a different Milwaukee show, and it's like, God, you got like 10 cars done. He'd take a whole table.
01:11:07
Torben Rothgeb
But, I mean, he was cranking stuff out, even 25th scale stuff. Uh-huh. But anyway, so yeah, no, it's it's um interesting. Whatever you're into, you know, it's it's really. That's a cool thing, actually, when you think about it, because you think that Tom West did the.
01:11:26
Torben Rothgeb
article in scale auto about he was big into formula one cars too well he the history of drag racing model if you ever get a chance to buy that in scale auto that's a really well done because he was intimately involved with revel as well revel ended up having to um they sold their company to um it was in venice california and they sold it to um the the monogram you know, model company, Ravel stuff.
01:11:55
Torben Rothgeb
And there were all these masters and things that they had to basically put. This is in California that they had to actually put in dumpsters. And Tom West and David Peters is another guy that I know is an artist.
01:12:09
Torben Rothgeb
They were like digging through the dumpster to dig out these wood bucks. Like one of the things he pulled out of the dumpster was the attempt one buck. Oh my goodness. Which is a Mickey Thompson, you know,
01:12:21
Torben Rothgeb
flying speed record car. But it's like, you know, this big. You know, it's all wood. But I actually got to see the the buck for the Grand Am, which i was a pretty big deal to me.
01:12:32
Torben Rothgeb
po He did an article about on the history of Formula One models. Do you have the drag racing one? Wasn't that a two-part thing? was either two. It might have been more than two. It might have been a three-part. Because I can look through mine if I don't have it. He actually had done that like independently and then Scale Lotto picked it up and put it in the magazine.
01:12:53
Torben Rothgeb
okay I think he had written it up to see if he could sell it to somebody. and um Unfortunately, the the only thing that Tom kind of, there was a little bit of a miscue was that he was involved in the accurate miniature stuff. right He did all the instruction sheets for the mclaren and the grand sport and there was something that was like lost in translation because people really struggled to to get those cars built so um and they originally had nascars uber detailed nascars yeah the problem that was it was a 98 taurus it was already outdated by the time they got it done yeah it was it got stuck you know in transit you it's just it's a long story that
01:13:37
Torben Rothgeb
And, you know, timing is everything. And, you know, the boom was coming on the way down by even 98, 99, I think, at least in the modeling, NASCAR modeling. Because they went for years talking about this McLaren.
01:13:52
Torben Rothgeb
yearsan yeah And you you do you see virtually so few of those built. yeah I mean, i would I would buy your MPC 20 scale one first and build it before I build one of the Accurate Management's kids. And enjoy it, too.
01:14:06
Torben Rothgeb
yeah He'd enjoy building it because it was yeah easier to build. would be easier to build. Well, yeah, speaking of kits that are on the quasi kind of bucket list, that's another one. And I'm not even going get specific. Just one Papaya McLaren can-arm car I'd like to build. You've got a bunch of them. You've got the the B and the D. Yep.
01:14:28
Torben Rothgeb
yeah Now you have the Alex Polokar coming. I do have the Alex Polokar coming. Yeah, no, I know. But, yeah. Now, I was wondering, and is I've almost forgotten, um if ah you could glue the whole body together and then paint it even with the base on that ends up being the carbon fiber stuff.
01:14:55
Torben Rothgeb
Could you paint the whole body and then put the carbon fiber decals over it? Would that be the easier way to do that? Yeah. I wouldn't bother with the engine cover coming off or anything. Oh, yeah, I would agree with that. I don't want bother with it. Go to curb side.
01:15:10
Torben Rothgeb
Just go to the curb side. You know, talking about a great 3D printed thing to to design would be if they just had the piece of the engine that you see with the cover on.
01:15:24
Torben Rothgeb
And so you could just glue that on and not even mess with the engine. Kind of like a GT40 would be. Yes. Yeah. Would be nicer even. i didn that Was it the Tamiya Mustang that didn't have an engine? Right. 93, somewhere in that area. That was newer than that. The one that Bill Reed built it. It was like 2004.
01:15:45
Torben Rothgeb
But it was a Tamiya kit, which was odd for them to do Mustang. Yeah, that was the one that you're talking about. It just didn't have an engine. Right. And Dana was just livid about it. Or whatever.
01:15:58
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, yes. All right, well, let's wrap this thing up, my man. Let's wrap it up. It's funny because every time we talk about not you know going short, and here we are at the one hour and 16 minute mark. But, you know, when we get to talking about models, time just
Favorite Scary Movies
01:16:14
Torben Rothgeb
flies, right? so All right, well, since this is October and, you know, the the Halloween month,
01:16:22
Torben Rothgeb
Super 6 is the scariest movies. Now, and I know as a film snob, Bob, that you might not. Whoa, whoa. might be beneath you.
01:16:33
Torben Rothgeb
Cinema? Yes. Talking about films. Right. I know. got bunch of them. All right. You got a bunch of them? but there will just go Let's go around. So, for me, number one would be Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the first one.
01:16:48
Torben Rothgeb
It's utterly terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. James? I'm not a big fan. um i would just throw in, you know, kind of one of my favorites, if I was going to pick one, would be Carrie.
01:17:01
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Because she did a fabulous job in that show. Yeah. It actually had a story. and I mean, it was, you know, it was interesting. But yeah, i just, you know. You know, one of these, as a person who oh dabbles in writing and um also as a teacher. You are anyway. One of my favorite favorite stories, and it it kind of motivates me sometimes to try to write, is Stephen King did a book on writing.
01:17:29
Torben Rothgeb
Right. And so... He was teaching and making very little money. um And his wife called him um and from the and the only phone in the school was like in the teacher's lounge. Right. So he gets called from this class um that he's teaching um to come down to the teacher's lounge.
01:17:52
Torben Rothgeb
And his wife's on the phone. and she's talking about the the publisher wants to buy the rights to carry, um and at the time it was something like $175,000, and basically just kind of maybe even walked out of the school building. And I can't tell you how many times I've been doing lunch duty or something like that. God, I would love to get a phone call. We've been reading your newsletter for while.
01:18:24
Torben Rothgeb
This might sound ridiculous, but we'd like to pay millions of dollars. We've got a six-figure round, dude. Will this be enough, Mr. Rockdown? And me walking out of lunch duty and the kids just having a humongous food fight driving off. So what would you owe me then? And that was Carrie.
01:18:42
Torben Rothgeb
The rights were Carrie, but he sold. um um But no, for scary movies, when I think of scary movies and a groundbreaking scary movie, and I think the author of this died just, it seems like a year or two ago, but it's probably 10 years now, the way time goes.
01:18:59
Torben Rothgeb
But The Exorcist, I thought that considering the time that it was out... and uh and then i was also pretty young watching it disturbing um so yeah if we go around again that's my second one was the exorcist because all right we are going around again being ah being a catholic and it was like this freaky the whole devil thing and it was just it was so well done your mother's and here about this in here and there's two versions i mean there's a director's cut which is even scarier so yeah that's mine
01:19:30
Torben Rothgeb
yeah Well, I mean. No, that was mine. You got to come out. I'm sorry. i got I mean, was it really scary? um What's the Jack Nicholson one? Shining. The Shining.
01:19:41
Torben Rothgeb
that's just That's a classic. I just really i mean, it's it's watchable. Johnny's here. Well, no. it Here's Johnny. It's funny and it's scary at the same time. It was brilliant movie.
01:19:54
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. So that'd be my, yeah, that'd be one. Mm-hmm. and Well, this is an insight to the kind of parenting that I was exposed to. thatos Bless my parents' hearts. We were just going to the movie every week, whatever it was on. And so I remember my dad taking me The Shining.
01:20:12
Torben Rothgeb
And I was about six years old. Oh, my Oh, on. Come on. It came out around 79, 80. You know, I saw it live in the theater. Oh, goodness. But i remember actually liking that because the kid wins at the end.
01:20:27
Torben Rothgeb
And as a kid, boy, wouldn't you love to outsmart your dad? Leave him. No, I... yeah I love my dad, so it wasn't like I wanted to kill my dad. But you know the kid outsmarted the adult. It did. And so I thought that was kind of cool.
01:20:40
Torben Rothgeb
um Actually, in movies that I've seen, now, this is the one my brother gives me a bunch of grief because I ran out of theater on this one. But what I like to remind my brother, he was four years older than me.
01:20:53
Torben Rothgeb
So if I was six, he was 10. That's a big difference, right? Yeah. So, um and ah I'll tell you what, maybe you can guess. Okay. A movie in the early 80s that one, especially ah child, six or seven years old, might run out of the theater on.
01:21:15
Torben Rothgeb
Was that you that ran out of theater? ran out of the theater. Was it one of those like Goonies or something? Come on now, Goonies. Goonies. Give me a damn break. It gets nasty. Well, I have to agree with him. That's a bad choice. have done in the people my age who thought Gremlins was scary. Gremlins. I don't know.
01:21:36
Torben Rothgeb
All right. Well, how about if I said Mel Brooks recreated this scene? Young Frankenstein? Young Frankenstein? No. It was a guy doing a vaudeville act, though, that does this. Oh, um.
01:21:50
Torben Rothgeb
Uh, um. But that's Young Clangman. Alien. Oh, Alien. That was very scary. So that that would be on my list. The original one where the guy jumps out of his... Yeah, that's scary. Agreed.
01:22:05
Torben Rothgeb
Agreed. yeah All right. you guys have any more scary movies? Pretty much not. I mean, I've got some... I've seen a couple really... One is Audition. if These now are getting into Japanese and French films. and and Never mind.
01:22:20
Torben Rothgeb
Well, speaking of that, I thought The Ring came out in early 2000. Oh, that's really scary. Yes, yeah. That was really scary. um this Just this summer, I saw one. Was it Weapons?
01:22:32
Torben Rothgeb
ah That was kind of scary. I think it was Weapons. Well, you and I went and saw it right before the the COVID hit. The Korean one. The Korean film. That was pretty scary, too.
01:22:45
Torben Rothgeb
yeah it was um It was called Parasite. Parasite. That was scary. It was shocking. but ah yeah yeah yeah i was I was thinking of a movie. you actually We actually both saw it. and it was a um he was like a He's like a Spanish director or whatever. I'm not going to think of who it is, though. Are you talking about Labyrinth?
01:23:11
Torben Rothgeb
No. David Bowie was in that, right? But it was pretty it was pretty scary. Okay. It's a Spanish director. It might not have been Spanish. Guerma Del Toro. Toro is that yes yeah that's the director.
01:23:27
Torben Rothgeb
he's he just He's in a couple of really terrifying movies. yeah Well, speaking of Del Toro, I just saw this Benicio Del Toro. Who was and in – was it – Anyway, he was in one with Arquette. They escaped from a prison.
01:23:45
Torben Rothgeb
Roseanne Arquette? I think so. Yes. 2018 is when they shot it. But he's a prisoner and they escaped from whatever the name of the prison is. Alcatraz.
01:23:56
Torben Rothgeb
It wasn't Alcatraz, but that was pretty good. The Fly is a really terrifying movie. Some of the John Carpenter movies. um what's the one they made in the 50s they read carpenter redid it in the 80s with kurt russell they're in the middle of the antarope the thing the thing that was really good that was yeah um thank you for reminding me of that one the old horror movies when i was a kid i was always afraid of the mummy yeah the original dracula was yeah scared the crap it was really good Well, and then of course, ah you know, have to mention Alfred Hitchcock.
01:24:27
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. He had some really good. Psycho is pretty scary. Pretty scary. Rear Window has got some moments of absolute fear. The bird. Oh, yeah. That's one I saw as a child and I was.
01:24:38
Torben Rothgeb
Fucked. I'm just kidding my French a long time. Thanks, Mom and that. No, they just weren't home. Oh, my God. No, I was like, wow, this looks pretty good.
01:24:49
Torben Rothgeb
I think cop have to watch this. the plague The playground scene was like. Oh, the playground scene still. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Yeah. yeah Well, he was brilliant.
01:25:00
Torben Rothgeb
Mm-hmm. poltergeist was pretty scary for its time some of the effects um especially they got you scared of stuff that you know kids would be like that old tree that comes through there or the clowns uh you know that was the first one and a classic is still jaws that's still a scary movie i think yeah thanks for that yeah i can't sleep yeah yeah no that was uh and you know course uh It, speaking of clowns, that was pretty pretty scary. yeah
01:25:34
Torben Rothgeb
ah Stephen King has a number of them. but yeah so yeah now i You know, a lot of my kids have gone to the the jump scare ones, and those kind of get to be a little ridiculous. i' I'll watch them.
01:25:50
Torben Rothgeb
You know, some of them are all right. The phone booth. And then, of course, they come out. and Maybe the but black phone or something. Black phone, right. Ethan Hawke or something. the paranormal films. There's all those other series. Conjuring. Conjuring. They're just not saw. They're nasty. Saw nasty. so na yeah It was really nasty. Yeah, it's like I don't want to see that.
01:26:09
Torben Rothgeb
the cruelty to get from the world as it is. so Yeah. Yeah. All right. they're gone Well, you know, speaking of scary, hope everybody has a, a great Halloween and scary month.
01:26:24
Torben Rothgeb
We'll talk about Detroit next time. Detroit, Detroit Rock City. You got it. How much pizza, how much money we can spend. pizza pizza So thank you to all the listeners. Thank you for your support.
Closing Remarks
01:26:38
Torben Rothgeb
Thank you to all our wonderful sponsors. Randy's 3D Printing. Yes, Olivia's Pet Sitting. Olivia's Pet Sitting. Thank you. And remember, the gong is the outro.