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Episode 14
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Torben, Jim, and Bob pay homage to fallen club member, Don Stauffer, revisit the history of MPC, talk about their trip to the Motor City Model Contest, and explore 3D printing.
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Transcript
Introduction & Guest
00:00:03
Torben Rothgeb
Welcome to the Tiny Car Podcast. This is your host, Torben Rothgev, and my co-host, Bob Madred, coming to you live from the Lake Street Studios in beautiful Minneapolis, the coolest city in the world.
00:00:16
Torben Rothgeb
All right, how's everybody doing out there? We are in the Lake Street Studios and it is a beautiful autumn day watching the leaves. Would you say it's peak as you look out there on the Mississippi River? the trees are just a gorgeous setting. Lots of people out walking their dogs and
Road Trip Adventures
00:00:33
Torben Rothgeb
stuff.
00:00:33
Torben Rothgeb
But we're here to talk about Detroit Rock City. We just got back and we have ah again our special guest, our all-time guest really. We've... We've got good news. He's been promoted to the third wheel of our amazing hot rod that we call the Tiny Car Podcast.
00:00:53
Torben Rothgeb
Jim, how are you doing tonight? I'm doing really well. Thank you for asking. Good, good. And Bob, how about yourself? I'm doing as good as I can. You're on the mend. I'm on the Yes, I had the privilege of riding with Bob to Detroit.
00:01:08
Torben Rothgeb
And I think out of our 22 hours on the road, ah you were maybe asleep for 17 of them, I think. I was not asleep that much. It was close. close It was a fair amount. I would look in the back seat, and I just saw, like, Bob's little feet um resting on the window.
00:01:24
Torben Rothgeb
how cute. The driver's side window. How precious that is. His little PJs. I missed it, too.
00:01:33
Torben Rothgeb
so But we both kind of got sick. I felt bad for John. He was riding with both of us. ah When I got back, I had to take some antibiotics and finally kicked it about four or five days ago. It took a couple of days off work.
00:01:48
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Cool. It didn't affect affect your buying prowess, though. No, no, nothing could do. That's when you know I'm really sick, right? I'm not buying.
Trans Am Talk
00:02:01
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, ah the ah the swap meet never disappoints out in Detroit. Never. And, you know, I can't even say that I regret buying anything, you know. i mean.
00:02:15
Torben Rothgeb
Why would you? You know, yeah. There's so many choices to talk about. Well, and we'll get to that. That's one of our, quite that's our question of the month, actually. We'll talk about that.
00:02:25
Torben Rothgeb
But no, uh, you know, my haul, uh, consisted of a 76 Trans Am, which, uh, I'd gotten decals from Ray's decals earlier.
00:02:36
Torben Rothgeb
um that could do either. Earlier today, that day? No, uh, earlier that year. I think I ordered them maybe three years ago. okay. And they showed up about two years ago. Not bad. but So I, I do have those ready to go,
00:02:47
Torben Rothgeb
um Buccaneer Red is the one I want to do the 76 in. This is the Firebird Trans Am? Does it have the chicken on the hood? Yes. Yeah, the flaming flaing chicken okay is going to be pretty cool.
00:03:01
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And, you know, say what you want, those raised decals are, you know, really cool. They give you a lot of, like, dash. And, of course, those Trans Ams had the, what were the steel, the polish.
00:03:13
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, i turned aluminum. Turned aluminum on the dashboards. So it gives you that. And, you know, we've talked about it several times. You know, one of the round two is kind of, I felt like, dropped the ball because if they would backdate.
00:03:26
Torben Rothgeb
some of those transams, cause it's pretty much the same chassis, same engine, similar interior. They could do all of them. You could do the Rockford one. You could do the Rockford files. one example So many different versions. ah you could do the formula. A few people. though Yeah.
00:03:45
Torben Rothgeb
Well, and even cause I bought a couple others a ah while back, uh, online and one of them showed up with the flat hood in it. Um, but By accident or what?
00:03:57
Torben Rothgeb
No, it was somewhere along the line. One of the people who had this kit had probably thoughts of doing the Rockford Fire Flat Hood one. um But, you know, you could do... They even have a Goofy, what is it? A Spire or something? Or Redbird? Because Ray's makes makes the decals for those.
00:04:15
Torben Rothgeb
But, course, you had the Formula. What's funny when you look back at the annual kits from MPC is they all came with the Formula one. And you think, well well, how in the hell... but wasn't the Trans Am part of the 70s.
00:04:28
Torben Rothgeb
But if you look at it, like my 76 one that I bought was a formula and it's god awful on the box. They had that stock car option that came with it too. um But if you think about it, Smokey the Bandit didn't hit theaters to about 77, 78. And that really...
00:04:42
Torben Rothgeb
Kind of just catapulted the Trans Am. Propeled it into a different zone. But it is funny when you look at the 73, 74, 75, 76 annuals,
00:04:53
Torben Rothgeb
all them just came with the formula and not the transam yeah ah option um which is why our good friend Bob Ferrara is casting a bunch of the hoods with the shaker hood scoops on there who for for me to, you know, one of the many dream projects I would like to do ah like a 74, 75 white one, because Fred Cady did decals for that, and then the 76, and then... Does Rays do the chicken on the...
00:05:26
Torben Rothgeb
likeing He does a lot, a number of them. um But unfortunately, one of the disappointing things, looking at Ray's decals, he did like an 80 or an 81, and they reissued the 81 with pretty good decals in it. So I would have rather seen some of the earlier ones done. Beggars can't be choosers. Beggars can't be choosers. They cannot.
00:05:45
Torben Rothgeb
And even, you know, while i was looking online, they had ah like a 70 Trans Am, the MPC 70 Trans Am, but the decal sheet did not have the back.
00:05:56
Torben Rothgeb
And at that one, it didn't have the humongous flaming chicken. just had the blue stripe that went on the... And it had the blue stripe on the hood and the the roof, but not the trunk in this kit. Okay. Because it was like kind of a glue bomb.
00:06:08
Torben Rothgeb
But it's supposed to have... Yeah, it's supposed to have the stripe on the back, though. Yeah. and Even glue bomb is about 80. That's one of my favorites, actually, because it's it's a simple, clean look to it.
00:06:19
Torben Rothgeb
It doesn't have the, you know, chicken... um Which, you know, which is fine. It's fine when it's first started appearing, but they kind of wore it out.
00:06:30
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. I'm actually more of a formula fan than a Trans Am fan. I was thinking, and Bob was with me when I bought it, and, you know, as we... Started off for Detroit and you're looking at your unbuilt stuff and thinking.
00:06:44
Torben Rothgeb
And we had 11 or 12 hours to ride back, you know, as you're thinking your projects. And I was thinking maybe a formula, but I looked at that 76 formula and those were not the best.
00:06:57
Torben Rothgeb
I didn't like it because it had like the one color and then like about... half of the bottom of the door was black and then it just had a big formula written on the door. yeah And to me that looked goofy. I'd rather just have the Trans Am so that's why I'm gonna shoot for that. and And you know what? It's a pretty simple kit.
00:07:20
Torben Rothgeb
You know, MPC kits of that era. You know, ah the decals are pretty easy. you know And I'm not gonna go over... you know I'm not gonna make a project out of it. Cool.
00:07:31
Torben Rothgeb
ah you know so But no, that was my haul. ah I got about five things. since we yeah And we went to a couple of good hobby shops. and Yeah, really good. One was Nankin, as opposed to the restaurant that used to be here. So i was it it had a normal stock of kits, new stuff.
00:07:53
Torben Rothgeb
I picked up something. But it had a huge amount of aftermarket stuff from Top Studio and other things like that. And then we went to the cave. to Ann Arbor, and that was a really great store.
00:08:05
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Guy had really good prices. Yeah. Guy was really nice. Super nice guy. yeah Friend of Tim Boyd. yeah Yeah. And, yeah, I got a couple of impulse buys. I did too. The Renault Le Car. The Renault 5 Rally Car. Yeah. And the Jägermeister. Dang it.
00:08:23
Torben Rothgeb
Porsche 962, yeah. Is anything sacred? Nothing. were such good prices. They were like $22. No, he had some really good prices. it yeah was It was very tempting to buy a lot more. They bought a Myers-Manks.
00:08:36
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. yeah yeah yeah but Well, you actually billed it. That's the real question because it's it's not for the faint of heart. I'll give it a shot. But, yeah, no, it's if we didn't have a you know huge swap meet to go to the next day, I think I would have probably spent more there. Sure. You had you were fondling quite a few kids.
00:08:56
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. And it was just a lot of nice stuff there. Not like Neil does. I know. But, yeah, no, it it's a great store. um yeah Yeah. They had a lot of aftermarket and, you know, magazines.
00:09:11
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, no, it was a great store. great time. So yeah, it was fun.
Ford Museum Highlights
00:09:17
Torben Rothgeb
The Ford museum was a good time. Yeah. The Ford museum ah to me, like I think i' was saying before, but it's definitely got that feel of more of a science museum.
00:09:26
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. I would agree. to Talk about a lot of different inventions and then also Americana. Yep. Yep. And I was amazed that I thought it was just going be all four, you know, I think a lot of people think that.
00:09:38
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. um And it's, it's evolved over the years too, where they've added other, You know, they've got the van. The locomotives. They've got the Dodge Caravan in there. yeah. They've got the Honda Civic.
00:09:51
Torben Rothgeb
Right. The funny thing, though, is, like, I can't remember the last time I saw some of those cars. If they didn't put a car like that museum, because God knows, right you know, nobody's going to save or restore those. No, no. so But it was a car at one time you saw in every street corner, and now it's gone.
00:10:07
Torben Rothgeb
And, you know, we saw great race cars. We saw Jimmy Clark, 65 winner. We saw them Ford Mark IV. You know, i love the 33 Willys. They were all great looking cars look at. Not surprising. A couple of ah stalled, ah well, kind of a stalled project. I got the 33 Willys.
00:10:24
Torben Rothgeb
And I was able to both look at the one-to-one in the museum. But then also, you know, Tim Boyd's built up. And I have his article. So there's no excuses. And it's painted.
00:10:35
Torben Rothgeb
Everything's painted. There's no excuses. excuses. Come on. Yeah. yeah And then then, of course, the Lotus 38, which that does have an excuse because God knows when Salmino's episode one of the Tiny Car Podcast, we were talking about that. who knows when it'll come. So it was funny that here we are still talking about it.
00:10:56
Torben Rothgeb
ah The show itself, the swap meet was great. show itself was It's okay. You were a little down on it, but you know I went back and watched one of the um and the ah what are the content content providers. and They were showing the video. and They walked around and recorded a lot of stuff. um and you know there was There was good stuff there. A fair amount of good muscle cars. I liked the three Demons. Somebody built those really well.
00:11:25
Torben Rothgeb
um The Daytona was pretty good, the stock Daytona. you know it's always It's always good to see other stuff in other cities. yeah i mean, you get a flavor of yeah what people really like to build. It's always interesting to me. it's A lot of trucks were built by commercial people. and i Do you think that was just one guy or was it a lot people? It was young man who built a ton of them.
00:11:49
Torben Rothgeb
yeah I know when they have the contest in the spring, there's a lot of trucks in that one too. So it's probably, it could be the same guy. Hard to say. Who knows?
00:11:59
Torben Rothgeb
but the um But it was a fun day. The highlight for me was going to Tim
Modeling Memories & Tributes
00:12:03
Torben Rothgeb
Boyd's house. That was really fun. Yes, we had a great conversation great conversation with Tim Boyd. you know were able to you know talk he yeah you know I asked him what he thought of Auto Modeler and where he's going, and then he really opened up for all of us to give him some feedback. and so you know we we You know, we were we were honest about what we thought about, and you know, how the photography could be better, um you know.
00:12:33
Torben Rothgeb
And that was a big deal for him because he said that he he sends the same. Beatback. Yeah, pictures. But the pictures, the quality or the camera and all that, he uses all of his settings are always the same to whoever he sends it to.
00:12:48
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. So it's consistently good. Mm-hmm. And, you know, he had a couple of articles that didn't, you know, photo well or it didn't show well. So I think he wanted to make a point about that.
00:13:00
Torben Rothgeb
so And it's a magazine that I will look at in the store. Sure. And um if there's one or two articles or one, I will buy it. um want to support it. Sure. It doesn't have a lot of the content that I particularly enjoy. No.
00:13:13
Torben Rothgeb
But it's, you know but it's what the heck. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you give it a shot. Well, and then I think part of it too is, ah you know, maybe just ah an age thing that some of the stuff. And as I was looking at the, you know, the video, and I apologize for not having the guy who who recorded it and on the YouTube channel, but watching all the stuff on the table. And ah it's just I don't know if it's because of the 2k or the 3d parts, but it seems like custom outrageous custom stuff has really taken off in the last 10 years. and And that's just not my cup of tea. i yeah know And so it's possible that auto modeler is reflecting the hobby. It's just not the part of the hobby that I'm crazy about, you know, kind of like, what was that, uh,
00:14:04
Torben Rothgeb
Seinfeld line I think on one of the episodes where I talked about you know people take their clothes their music their favorite movies from like their 20 uh the 20 years of their prime and then I you know you know whether they're sports heroes or whatever else and no and I'm sure I'm probably past my prime nowadays and certainly looking at uh race cars from the 60s and 70s and muscle cars from 60s and 70s and Well, there's people that want like want to relive that era or whatever in and their, you know, fond memories, you know, like it was your favorite muscle car, and you know, in high school that you would want to be yeah they would yeah would like to do a build-off or another thing.
00:14:49
Torben Rothgeb
Well, hopefully JJ will get that off the ground. You know, I think, you know, the way those guys build, maybe just do slammers or something. I don't know. Let's start there.
00:15:01
Torben Rothgeb
Who's to say? Who's to say? But I'm sure we all know some builders who don't don't get as much done as as they would i would like. We all do that.
00:15:13
Torben Rothgeb
Sure. There are some people who've gone a decade without building stuff. but and But speaking of somebody who did not, who who built right up in the end, we had one of our club members, Don Stauffer, pass away recently, maybe a day or two ago. yeah um And he was in his 87th.
00:15:37
Torben Rothgeb
87 years old and I, this last month meeting was there and bringing stuff. So right up into the end, yeah very passionate builder and, uh, You know, great engineer in mind, really like to to scratch build and do stuff. And, you know, probably almost ah would have been better off in the 70s and 80s taking stuff to shows where there was nothing else, no aftermarket. Yeah, he probably was actually entering stuff. that Probably was, you know, at some point.
00:16:08
Torben Rothgeb
Oh. Because he's he's one of those lifelong builders that's been building. Started out building wood stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. mental is there You know, the wooden kits. Yeah. Yeah, no, i think he I think he, the thing I would say is that he was really passionate about the hobby and loved the hobby.
00:16:28
Torben Rothgeb
And he was always always, you know, involved, always building something, always sharing stuff, writing articles, fine scale.
00:16:40
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, no. i did he did He did. He did a lot of nice work. I have a lot of respect for him as a model builder, I i guess is what I would say. i did. Yeah, well, being in the MSM club, I'm always, you know, really admire the guys that build everything, you know, and he certainly built lot of ships, built a lot of race cars, it's all kinds of stuff. Airplanes, everything, right?
00:17:06
Torben Rothgeb
So bon voyage, Don. Yes. Bon voyage. Now, I think ah now his ah widow, has she reached out to you? Are you responsible for? her well but but we've We've talked about it with her before, though. We've talked about it.
00:17:20
Torben Rothgeb
So we'll see what happens. Well, and that got me to thinking, what is the best way to honor club members that have passed away? You know, let's be honest. It's an aging hobby.
00:17:33
Torben Rothgeb
And probably at this point each year, we there's a number of really big people in the hobby that pass away. and Within your own clubs, there's a lot of people that pass on and, you know, thinking what's what's the best way to honor those people. I know I was thinking and I texted you, Bob, that, you know, it'd be nice if, ah you know, we each did one of his cars from an unbuilt to any of the stuff that he had left over, you know.
00:18:05
Torben Rothgeb
I'd volunteer for the Menards. I know you, I don't know if I would try the Menards paint that Don was always talking about. um but that's, you have to take the paint you take the car. I have to take the Menards. it a you touch You could use the paint on something else. So yeah, who knows? I um,
00:18:24
Torben Rothgeb
yeah so yeah who knows i mean it's um We'll just see what happens. i mean with that you know not in there we see yeah We don't know what she's going to say. In that same vein, we have another gentleman who was in the club for quite a while, a great slot car advocate.
Memorabilia & Community
00:18:40
Torben Rothgeb
He's passing. He's going to pass. and he um He gave us a bunch of posters and some great race programs and stuff to auction off. Mike Lohman. and I got the news yesterday that one of our good friends from Wisconsin is in the hospital. Not doing well.
00:18:55
Torben Rothgeb
Who's that? Paul Johnson. Really? Yeah. So he had some AFib problems. But Mike just said, he so I'm going to call him tomorrow, give him a couple days so he can maybe get better. and The doctors were trying to get his heart rate down. Wow.
00:19:09
Torben Rothgeb
Oof. so Yeah. That's too bad. never know. Anyway, you never know. You never know. Yeah. I know, like, speaking of Wisconsin, I know they usually do a fair number of awards that are dedicated to, you know, people that passed on. i think they obviously say have the Mike Dowd one.
00:19:25
Torben Rothgeb
Right. um But then they also have, what was the one that Troy won? it was one of those... His 62 Pontiac drag car won, and it was after one of their members had passed away. The one that really started it all, obviously, was the Kaweki Award because yes they ran that for years yeah decades. we have ah We have a member who won that. yeah so i have There were several members over the years. you know yeah But yeah, no, i think I think it's a great idea. I just think it's you have to kind of be careful with it and not wear it out.
00:20:01
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, the only problem is, obviously, a lot of people are passing away. mean, I just think about... Just our club, you know, Mark Raleigh. Alan James. Alan James. Don Stauffer. Ted.
00:20:15
Torben Rothgeb
yeah You know, I mean, we could. we would end up with like 20 awards, right? mean, we had the Ted Award for the Best Modified, which good luck. Well, we had one for Alan, and we kept it within the club.
00:20:26
Torben Rothgeb
Right. Which was nice. And Tom Finch made a really nice award. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah You know, so that's nice. But yeah, to honor them, I'm going to bring one of his models to the meeting in a week.
00:20:37
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, I could do that, too. He yeah he had had a model that um I took from his collection that he wanted to get rid of, and it was the 1908 Thomas Flyer. He did a beautiful job on it. This is Don you're referring to? This is Don. Yeah, that a nice model. Yeah, I've seen that. And I'm going to bring it, and he is in homage. Yeah, and he was in high school when that car was around. well that I was just thinking that. People are going to miss the age joke. It was a really good sport. about that He was good i mean because he got just savaged on a
00:21:08
Torben Rothgeb
yeah did and he was very you know he was very ah gracious gracious he actually got a chuckle or whatever so he's he's can see him now the only thing that irritated him was your your lack of sense of direction sense of direction yeah that's that's uh that's my uh it's a classic that's my classic that's the only time i ever drove and he was the passenger and you know had had the door unlocked several times don't get
00:21:43
Torben Rothgeb
I said, I'm using GPS. Well, it's going to take a lot longer. and I said, well, let me decide. Yeah, I'm driving. Anyway, it was entertainment. We had a good time. i was like It was a great museum. Yeah, it was fun.
00:21:57
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, no, he's going to be missed. No, no doubt about it. I think the Detroit show, i maybe the spring show might be interesting, but I probably wouldn't go back to the end. No, I mean, I think actually as far as stuff on the table, you know, minus, you know, Casper was not there.
00:22:16
Torben Rothgeb
But I think there's more stuff on the table, the fall show. More and than the spring? Yeah, yeah. Wow. You mean more... um I think the show we just went to had more stuff.
00:22:29
Torben Rothgeb
so You mean built models, you mean? Yeah, built models. There were more at this show the one in the spring? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's interesting. i don't know. I mean, I've heard in the range of 200. Yeah.
00:22:41
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Yeah. yeah like that' That's what this year's was. Tim yeah had a count on it. And it was 200, 300? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that No, I think at this point...
00:22:54
Torben Rothgeb
The NL East and the Acme show are probably the biggest two, you know, that are get up around, what, 700, 800. That's a lot. Even the NL East at one point didn't they get over 1,000, and now it's come back below 1,000. I think it was even more than that.
00:23:09
Torben Rothgeb
That's a lot of cars. Yeah, it's come down some because of the same thing you mentioned about people passing away. and Right. And it's – You know, it's difficult to get there at that time of the year.
00:23:21
Torben Rothgeb
um a lot of people make it a you know goal to go there, you know, once in their life. And, yeah you know you know, we did it that time. What's that? Thank you, Steve. You learned it.
00:23:34
Torben Rothgeb
Well, and kudos to the the guys ah behind the NNL Nationals because I remember the time thinking, wow, this is a little early just to call the show off. but And then now it's the right year before COVID.
00:23:47
Torben Rothgeb
So they talk about perfect timing to do their last show. you know And that was a phenomenal show as far as... One for the ages. Yeah, they had a really nice so layout in the hotel.
00:24:00
Torben Rothgeb
Great breakfast. Bob Canoesim will never find out, but it was really top-notch. And, you know, it's fun just to listen to all those people speak and talk about the...
00:24:11
Torben Rothgeb
The early days of the hobby. And speaking of the early days of the hobby, that brings us to another new segment, Rock, Roll, and Remember, which is ah brought to you by Fender
New Podcast Segments
00:24:24
Torben Rothgeb
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00:24:29
Torben Rothgeb
I didn't know they had that as a slogan. Yes. Wow. That's great. That's rather catchy, isn't it? Could be. Give me a second. Didn't we already have a sponsor?
00:24:43
Torben Rothgeb
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00:24:57
Torben Rothgeb
you You have a canine. And she might even want caps, too. I'd take care of those. Once. Where's kitie firsts the john you <unk> kitty? kitty?
00:25:11
Torben Rothgeb
why thank you Right out of the oven. She's gone. So whose cookies are these? Esme's. Esme's. Esme's Bakery. Esme's Bakery.
00:25:24
Torben Rothgeb
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00:25:42
Torben Rothgeb
And just for your trivia, what does MPC stand for? Multiple piece cars. i know Even i know what that is. Model product company.
00:25:54
Torben Rothgeb
Model products corporation, I guess. Model products corporation, you're correct. Yes. Multi-piece cars. I didn't say multi-pieces. No, we have their first kit was a 1964 Corvette.
00:26:06
Torben Rothgeb
so no ah we have that their first kit was a nineteen sixty four corettet Did you know that? and knew it was something like that Very highly desirable kit, though. are What year was that? 1964. 1964. Will you still love me? Will you still need me when I'm Probably in that same era.
00:26:29
Torben Rothgeb
yeah nine seventy no no it would have been six probably sixty five why Because they cause they started doing some annual stuff. I think it was, yeah, just 64. They were doing promos. And then in 65, they brought out the Gangbusters kits.
00:26:46
Torben Rothgeb
And you built which Gangbusters? Eric and I have built the 28 Lincoln. It's a... It's actually really nice. so Oh, wow. that' You did a nice job. You argued about it. You didn't really enjoy it. No, right it was a tough kit to build.
00:27:02
Torben Rothgeb
A lot of kit bashing ah Eric did a beautiful job on him Oh, yeah. His wood grain on the cabin in the back was really great. Yeah. there's a you know those Those kids, see they did a far amount of the older kids, the 32 Chevy. were fun. Yeah.
00:27:16
Torben Rothgeb
those were fun you know yeah was you know yeah They featured windows and radiators with bullet holes, liquor bottles and cases, safe armed gangster and police figures.
00:27:28
Torben Rothgeb
um with We have know Scott Aho as a really good... Dan Laurie is a big fan. He would have wanted a horse. Unfortunately, they didn't have any horses in the gangbusters.
00:27:38
Torben Rothgeb
Maybe the Jesse James edition. I think he's found some horses somewhere. Some toy show. Wild horses. He would have because ah he was at Detroit too.
00:27:49
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, he was. Couldn't drag me away.
00:27:54
Torben Rothgeb
Garth Brooks. Wow. I forget you were in a country band, Bob. Yeah.
00:27:59
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. And then a lot of different promos in 66, Pontiac. Then they had, this is up your alley, Mr. Unswitchable. Yeah. Scale 20 car kits.
00:28:10
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. Still extremely desirable. Mm-hmm. And then the Color Me Gone and the Ed Sharpman Cougar. Yeah. So those go for a lot of money, huh? Yeah. I mean...
00:28:22
Torben Rothgeb
They've, they made a lot of them. So, I mean, they've, you know, some of that stuff's been reissued multiple times. So it's available to a lot of people that maybe didn't get a chance to buy it the first time around.
00:28:33
Torben Rothgeb
So, but they, but they were really kind of up there with the funny car craze. Cause that was a big deal for a while. So everybody was trying to get those kits out. So, um, yeah, MPC was, um, was an interesting company though. I think it, uh,
00:28:50
Torben Rothgeb
and They had a good variety of different types of kits. They started doing one twentieth scale, which, you know, was it really that popular? Probably not. I saw the Vans.
00:29:01
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, but they did they actually did some annuals. In 20th scale? Oh, yeah. there was I think there was someone in the company that was a big fan of that scale. Well, the STB Turbine Car. with two mcclaren tra Yeah, cars.
00:29:17
Torben Rothgeb
um Was the Javelin in twentieth skill? Yep. um But they did a lot. They had Firebirds. They had a lot of stuff that they did. um ah sixty eight A 68 AMX? um Yep.
00:29:28
Torben Rothgeb
yeah Those was in 20th skill too? Yeah, i believe I think Raleigh had one of those. But anyway, yeah, they had the Ironside Ford van. Oh, the van. That was one we were at that was in the this little pamphlet or whatever.
00:29:42
Torben Rothgeb
But yeah, no, it it was a great company. I you know i personally built A lot of those MPC kits because they were, you know, caught your eye as a kid. And they did a lot of race cars.
00:29:55
Torben Rothgeb
um They had a lot of chrome parts and different real rubber tires. ah You know, all that kind of fun stuff that attracts you to the... Well, they did the first ah you know like NASCAR kits.
00:30:09
Torben Rothgeb
yeah know What did they do? I was going ask you about that. Actually, they started with the Daytona, Charger Daytona. um And it's funny because the first one was the um Bobby Isaac K&K one, which was the most accurate one because it came with you know was more of a stock vehicle.
00:30:27
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, Bobby Isaac K&K. and then ah But then the next one they did had the same body, but then they had that generic MPC stock car chassis that they put under all of them. Is this one you could move? Yes, it was movable.
00:30:42
Torben Rothgeb
um They did like a um Wood Brothers Mercury Cyclone. They did the Petty Plymouth Roadrunner and then Charger. They did a... um I think they did ah the...
00:30:56
Torben Rothgeb
but What's Sterling Marlin's dad? They might have done it. Cuckoo Marlin. Cuckoo Marlin, Monte Carlo, yeah possibly. They did the 72 Torino.
00:31:07
Torben Rothgeb
David Pearson, clear-bodied Pontiac. Oh, God, that's right. Yeah. Yep. Let me see. Oh, they did a Cale Yarborough. Yeah. Laguna, um well, they did a couple Lagunas, right?
00:31:21
Torben Rothgeb
Yep, MPC 116 scale charger. They did the 116 scale charger. Which it was, as is at the time, was cutting edge, had everything in the box, including plug wires, plug wires, and hoses. Well, and they actually did a they also did a number 11 Buddy Baker one that was actually quite desirable because it was never reissued.
00:31:47
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Did you get one of those? bought one for $80. And somebody was going to make decals for you. They eventually did, but took a while. Oh, well, then when I bought the one 16th one, I bought, yes, and Don Static i did the decals. But he said, I would have gotten those decals to you, but Campman gave me so many damn pictures and things to do decals that I never got out from underneath that. sort of And I'm still bitter at him for this Crumpy Jenkins Camaro that he never gave me the proper due for. Wow. I kicked on car. Some things never change. He's just a hater.
00:32:23
Torben Rothgeb
Wow. so did they do sorry ah series of so they did they do trans am cars that they did them oh mpc yeah no but they did do one of our great we both have the dick trickle oh the damn patrick's favorite name dick trickle mustang then they did the camaro the jegs kind of the one i could have had for fifty bucks the truck you yeah and i ran as fast as my little feet would take me and then who said i turned around and he's laying on the ground laughing hysterically well can i come over to the other side because you guys had the privilege of talking to ray at ray's decals guy no ray wasn't there but ray's guy was there you were talking to somebody on there so i came over with the dick trickle mustang right and so he's like where did you get that it's like this guy he's selling them for 50 bucks he's got the camaro over there
00:33:18
Torben Rothgeb
And then it's a he ran like a But yeah it was still a good price. was, what, $110? I think i want he took $100 for it, which for those is a good price. Did they do... i know they did the Can-Am, two McLaren Can-Am cars.
00:33:32
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. They did... Did they do any Indy cars? Yeah, they did um Bobby Alas or Bobby Hunsers. Oh, and when they did the Eagles. Yeah, yeah the Eagles. The Eagles, they did this the both turbine cars. What's the one that has a toilet company as a sponsor?
00:33:49
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, it's a it's it's Bobby Hunsers. Hunsers. Oh, yeah, Johnny Lightning. No, it's absolutely not Johnny Lightning. No, it's I'll think of it after we're done with the podcast.
00:34:01
Torben Rothgeb
But they did the wedge turbine car. they did yeah yeah They did a lot of actually interesting stuff, you know. Yeah. Some were a little finicky to build. Like you said, the eagles were a little bit of a challenge.
00:34:15
Torben Rothgeb
But, you know, they came with – They never really got along together. They came with – I remember the one turbine car came with a – With a lawnmower.
00:34:25
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. writing surprising that I think for Dan Laurie has like six of them. No, I'm just kidding. Not painted. No, we love Dan. dan We love Dan. And speaking of Dan, I think they had a monkey mobile. MPC's landmark monkey. but No, that was an MPC. Yeah, a other monkey mobile.
00:34:44
Torben Rothgeb
Along with Dark Shadows, Beverly Hillbillies, Hogan's Heroes, Mannix, Mission Impossible. which said That was one of the kits that drawed the ire of the Model Empire, right? Wow, ire.
00:34:58
Torben Rothgeb
You guys were at... Which one are you talking about now? The last year you guys went to Milwaukee, we went to Model Empire. and he had just bought out a collection.
00:35:10
Torben Rothgeb
You know, you talk about crack cocaine. Yes, exactly. And so he's going through this ah this thing and back behind his desk, but you can still see it. And so the Halliday's and Jim are salivating over this Mannix. And tell me the significance of that kit, because it's a Mopar muscle car that was not issued for a while. What was it?
00:35:30
Torben Rothgeb
no it was it was never issued as a print as the regular car okay it was a it was a coronet convertible 69 okay uh mpc did that the manix that was what it was in the actual show yeah and they did like it was a you know of course it had to be custom you know that's what mpc did i don't know who was if it was um one of the One of the custom mavens that does all the you know show cars.
00:36:00
Torben Rothgeb
He did a custom top for the thing. But it was a convertible. So it was extremely, I mean, i could I think if you want on eBay right now, they're still on there for quite a bit of money. Okay. Yes. ah Yeah.
00:36:12
Torben Rothgeb
But, yeah, no, they did a lot of TV movie cars. Well, in this particular, it was it a very entertaining because there's an of the old grumpy guy back there going through these kits, and and both of you guys keep asking him. Well, that was the guys that worked there. That was the husband and wife team. They were the Krabby family. The Krabby family, and so they were like, you know, we need to go through this, and obviously they wanted to probably check eBay and make sure they're not giving away stuff.
00:36:37
Torben Rothgeb
um And then they re-boxed it, so they shrink-wrapped it again. Right. But, ah you know, once they got them out there, was pretty reasonable because I i ended up buying a another Javelin.
00:36:49
Torben Rothgeb
ah not the um Not the Mark Donahue, but the other guy. Who's the other guy that drove? George Fulmer. George Fulmer. I bought the George Fulmer one for $69, which is a good price for that one. yeah That goes for a lot, too. um so But, no, they're talking about other movies. You know, they they had well they had the... the What was the one that you just bought? Didn't they do that one originally?
00:37:15
Torben Rothgeb
Me? The Mannix. the manics Yeah, the Mannix one. was yeah it's why They brought out the 68 Coronet is what you're thinking of. that the one most recently they did? Yeah, that's the one they've most recently done. but there was also I just thought of something. when wow I lost it again. but anyway um Dark Shadows. That another movie. yeah oh yeah don't know There were a lot. i mean It just goes on and on. and The interesting thing was there were Um, things that, you know, you wouldn't even think about doing now, you know, from a cost perspective.
00:37:49
Torben Rothgeb
But back then, you know, things were cheap. You know, molds, you could make it molds done pretty reasonably. and yeah, no, theres there was a lot of interesting subjects. Don't forget the zingers and the waxy wx wacky racers. yeah um Now, I know as a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s, the thing that killed me, and I remember my brother throwing a Pony up Express gun.
00:38:13
Torben Rothgeb
what was it, Pinto wagon against the wall. um Because the way they built up, right now the ones in the 70s is they would give you like the sides of the car and they would run along.
00:38:28
Torben Rothgeb
So they would give you the sides, but it would have the engine compartment, then the sides of the interior, then the sides of the trunk. and right And you would glue that onto the kind of chassis thing.
00:38:41
Torben Rothgeb
and they and what could go wrong and then so you have that glued in and then you're supposed to stretch the body over all this without any of it falling or cracking and so that sounds like hell of a you know the era around like the 80 mustangs or the pintos or something were were done like that and that that was a big headache well they didn't even have the best-selling kit of all time. That's right. Lost Shepard of Sheep. And second place was... What was the first one again?
00:39:15
Torben Rothgeb
The Dukes of Hazzard Chargers. Oh, that's right. sold i don't know how many million of those. And then the second place was the... Knight Rider. No, it was just the... I think it was just the Trans... Maybe it was a Knight Rider.
00:39:27
Torben Rothgeb
was it i thought anddo one i thought it was a Smoking the Black car. 79, 78. 77, I the first one. yeah so yeah i mean they were you know they went They kept going. They did American Graffiti stuff and Happy Days.
00:39:43
Torben Rothgeb
base nineteen ninety nine six million dollar man ah then they had the night rider and was what was the other truck that they did that was ah six million dollar man lee majors Oh, God. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Six million dollar man provided more popular licenses than MPC released several interesting. It was another truck. It was van? No, it was a pickup.
00:40:07
Torben Rothgeb
Well, I remember BJ and the Bear won. No, that wasn't it. I'm thinking of it. Yeah, it was another Lee Majors. It was right. It was the the six million dollar man pickup. Yeah, right. Yeah. Unfortunately, this article just says the six million dollar man provided more popular licenses than MPC released several interesting and in some cases odd kits.
00:40:28
Torben Rothgeb
So, but that was probably part it. So this was retired soldier talking about this? Or was this Dave? I think he posted it, but it it was, it and he said he stole it. ah From someone else. At least he's honest. ah yeah Yeah.
00:40:44
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. So. Okay. No, and I know one of the things that I really liked is muscle cars were getting popular. in the mid to late 80s, they came out with some three-in-ones that you know I built the Charger 500.
00:40:58
Torben Rothgeb
and Then one of my favorites that I gave to you, an extra one, was the 71 Roadrunner that you could build like a fictitious Superbird or little electric Roadrunner.
00:41:10
Torben Rothgeb
It was proposed... It was going to a real car, right? Yeah, it was you know in the works. They were talking about it. Last minute, it was canned. And there's actually been a couple of people that have actually recreated what it was kind of a what if like real car. It'd be, it well and that's why I had the second one.
00:41:28
Torben Rothgeb
um I thought about, didn't Tim build one of those? I thought maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I thought i built one of the fictitious ones. I thought about doing a petty STP one, but then at the time, and then I just like, you know what? I'm never going to get all the real petty cars done. So I'm going to do those before I do a fictitious one. that's, I decided to give that 71 road runner to you, but,
00:41:49
Torben Rothgeb
um That was a cool one. They had a 70 GTO. Although, I don't know, maybe you could help me out. The lights on the front of that 70 GTO never looked 100% great to me. Well, i think I think this subject came up recently because of some reissues that are coming out.
00:42:06
Torben Rothgeb
Are they going to reissue the 70 GTO? Not that I'm aware of. What I'm getting at is that MPC would use chrome headlights for and that's what you would get in the kit, whereas AMT would still give you the separate lenses and the buckets. And so, like you were asking me about, they reissued one of the, like, was it the 71 or 72 Chevelle?
00:42:31
Torben Rothgeb
Okay, yes. And you were asking me which kit it was, and I said, well, if it's an MPC, if it's got, you know, chrome headlights or... If it's an AMT, if it's got separate ones. Because that one just got reissued.
00:42:46
Torben Rothgeb
And was that the one with the chrome lights? Yeah. And it was a heavy Chevy maybe on the box or SS Slasher. Yeah. SS Slasher. And does that go back to the Red Alert one? No, the Red Alert was AMT. AMT.
00:42:59
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And that was that was the one they did the actual trailer and everything as well. Yeah. And it was the wrong year Chevelle though. Yeah. Because the actual car was a 70. Mm-hmm.
00:43:10
Torben Rothgeb
but it's still sold like crazy. Yeah. Now we, speaking of Detroit, somebody at Detroit built one, right? But was that the 71 or 72? I thought it was the 70, but I think probably, can't I think if somebody would go to the trouble of building, they'd probably build the 70, I think.
00:43:26
Torben Rothgeb
Um, but no, that those, uh, that section. And of course, luckily Revelle came out with a 71 Mustang, but and before that, they, that was part of the MPC ones that they released.
00:43:36
Torben Rothgeb
Um, So lot of good cars. They did a 70 Boss 302 Mustang in 70. Oh, yeah. Molded in yellow plastic. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, no, they did a lot of stuff.
00:43:49
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, you was they were on for a long time. When was their demise? Uh... They said it meant was that the 85 catalog would be the last for MPC as a standalone company.
00:44:00
Torben Rothgeb
So as I was talking about in the late 80s, they were um combined with Earl. um Earl had bought them. Ertl, you mean? Yeah, Ertl. And still used them you know for a little while.
00:44:12
Torben Rothgeb
But then then they brought MPC back recently. yeah it's it's not a standalone company, though, is it? no No, it's all round two now. it's all round two. But if the molds might be...
00:44:23
Torben Rothgeb
MPC molds though. So they're kind of trying to keep with the flavor of the actual kit. Okay. Cool. so Well, homage to MPC. Homage to MPC. Yep. Very cool. Very cool stuff.
00:44:39
Torben Rothgeb
this Now, let's see. That gets us to um our question of the month.
00:44:49
Torben Rothgeb
And that is, what is your Immortal kit builder number IKN. You're probably wondering what that is. yeah Okay. Well, that is, um ah you were giving me grief about stuff I bought.
00:45:04
Torben Rothgeb
I still feel like you probably have more unbuilt kits in your stash. um So if by some chance, maybe even this ah spotted cow somehow made us immortal and we could live...
00:45:20
Torben Rothgeb
Forever. Right. How many years do you think it would take ah for you to build all of the stuff? and and Maybe not the parts, kits, or extra stuff, but all of the kits in your unbuilt stash, realistically?
00:45:39
Torben Rothgeb
It'd probably be 30. 30. Really? think 30 years? gra yeah you've seen his stuff. It's not too bad. I'm sure it would be at least probably 100 for me. I'm thinking more than 100. Yeah, I'm being kind. You're being very kind. I'm being modest.
00:45:57
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, the you know, he's going to be the purveyor of the collection. Yeah, right. there was There was some discussion about that, although he doesn't have a key to the room. Yeah.
00:46:08
Torben Rothgeb
anyway you know what And that's a Tim Boyd you know there was a great shot. But anyway, no it's... um the The fact of the matter is is that you know I don't buy a lot anymore, truthfully.
00:46:22
Torben Rothgeb
so I don't. and I didn't buy that much in in Detroit.
Collector's Market Insights
00:46:26
Torben Rothgeb
No, you didn't. Because I just don't need it. and um I'm always looking for stuff that I... you know Maybe that resin cast or...
00:46:37
Torben Rothgeb
um I need it for some you know parts. You got that 3D printed dragster, which was very nice. Yeah, the fuel altered. Yeah, no, it's fantastic. right i mean it's um But anyway, you know it's like you talk about the MPC thing.
00:46:49
Torben Rothgeb
um like if Let's just pull this one aside, the 71 Barracuda. I mean, that thing is like gold to the collector market. who And what's great about it, and people don't realize this, let's just pan through these pages because it just reminds me of something.
00:47:05
Torben Rothgeb
was that they would do like, let's say they did 70 Barracuda funny car. Candies and Hughes. I have one at home. Okay. If you look at the kit, it's a funny car. But you open it up, it's an original 70 Barracuda box.
00:47:20
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, the body is the original body. It's the promo body because they did all the promos. It's, you know, it's really cool stuff. Yeah. So, um yeah, no, ah you know, I'm just saying like 100 years, what you know, whatever.
00:47:33
Torben Rothgeb
I think you're being generous because if I take mine, and I'm probably around 600 unbuilt kits. But how many did you Seven.
00:47:45
Torben Rothgeb
Seven? Yeah, not too many. Lucky seven? Well, you had a couple... You had a couple big scale boxes, if I recall. Yes, but that was all shot by a couple starter kits, 143rd. Oh, see. That makes the thing as well. It's a balance. 2-1-12, 2-1-43. It's a cheap balance. I'll have to remember that the next time go to. A 125th and 2-1-24. No, because I'm saying if at 600 and if build 10 a year,
00:48:04
Torben Rothgeb
ah one twenty fifth and twenty four so you know but um no cause i'm thinking if i'm at six hundred and've i built ten a year Right?
00:48:15
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. No, I don't i don't have – I probably don't have more than 600 kids. 10 year. So i guess that would be 60. So I'm looking at ah math off the top of my head.
00:48:29
Torben Rothgeb
Is that 111 years? Yeah. It'd have to be 111 years. Yeah. It should be 101. problem. yeah
00:48:35
Torben Rothgeb
My old man made it to 98. No, no, totally. So you're still realistic. You had a fighter's chance. Yeah, but been buying quite a bit recently, so I have to be careful. But you're buying a lot of 40s, I think, so.
00:48:47
Torben Rothgeb
Not really. I'm buying other stuff. and So I'm, you know. Okay. I mean, expensive stuff, unfortunately. Well, and this reminds me of last month's question, which was buying a 3D printer.
00:48:59
Torben Rothgeb
Ah. That's another question for us now, or what? Well, no, last month's, I don't know if you've Last month was a long time ago. Maybe. But we did have, the question was, would you ever buy a three d printer? Because you showed us how the furniture And so I just did the math, and I'm like, well, Jay's garage, which has fantastic stuff, but it does take a while to print, but he says that, so it's not a surprise. Wow.
00:49:24
Torben Rothgeb
You're looking at $180 what I ordered for the stuff. I ordered $60 worth of stuff. So, um you know, I went down to the computer place on 100. Micro Center.
00:49:35
Torben Rothgeb
Micro Center. And ah they had the, um what is it, AnyCube. AnyCube 3D printer for about $100. Mm-hmm. And then the big bottle of resin, which Harold Parsons, another guy in the club, has ah has ah still has not come close to running out of.
00:49:55
Torben Rothgeb
That but a bottle of resin for $30. So $130. And then, you know, you go on a place like 3D Colt. And so, like, I bought the dashboards for the NASCAR ones that don't have any details, so you can just put the decals in. you know if Well, it's well worth $3.50 in the amount of time I grind away the details so I can put the decals in there.
00:50:20
Torben Rothgeb
And nobody really looks at the gauges anyway and for the most part. But anyway, so that was about $3 or $4. But the file from 3D Colt is like $3.50 just to download the file. And then you can print as many as you want. yeah Right? And give to all your friends like Steve did. Steve, yes.
00:50:40
Torben Rothgeb
yeah he And so um it for tobium cost-wise, it does seem like... ah You know, ah it's just like one of those no brainers, almost like those guys who have been in the the business for a long time and not done an airbrush.
00:50:55
Torben Rothgeb
And you're like, man, you would have saved a lot of money on paint by now if you would have had an airbrush. Steve and I chatted today and he says he does. And Steve's a pretty prolific builder. Oh, yeah. and he could paint her too And he just said he's talked to other guys across the country online stuff that are doing 3D printing.
00:51:13
Torben Rothgeb
They don't build anymore. They just print 3D stuff. And I have no in inclination to design my own stuff. Because Steve does it because he was a designer. So yeah he does he does design, and these wheels he did for Torby are gorgeous.
00:51:25
Torben Rothgeb
What were they for? 71 Barracuda or... and charge your seventy one bear coa or Oh, no, it's a Challenger. Challenger pace car. It's the Indy 500 pace car that crashed on the start.
00:51:39
Torben Rothgeb
Okay, cool. And he showed me the video of it. and Oh, yeah, no, and he wants to build a model of it. Right, and it has a very distinct wheel. Yeah, they're they're quite ugly, actually. They look like aluminum slops, but not...
00:51:51
Torben Rothgeb
but a little different they have five holes they're unique to the car yeah he couldn't find them anything close to that and i tried to find it and it didn't exist so and so steve designed them yeah and got them just right perfect and they look fabulous so i've got a bunch for toby he's i'm gonna hold them hostage but i mean yeah no i mean i see so no and i think that's when the people kind of when they design their own stuff i have no desire you know like i said The NASCAR parts that are commonly replaced like window naps and the exhaust dumps and stuff like that. You can print them yourself. And I'm scratch building with aluminum tube or plastic tube or stuff like that.
00:52:28
Torben Rothgeb
that You know can save time. I can save time and I need like 10 or 12 of them. Yeah. There you go. got so So you've got a good attitude about it. Yeah. Yeah. but And I'm not in a hurry to do it, you know, whenever it. And Harold helping you. Harold has the same attitude about I'm going to print stuff I need.
00:52:46
Torben Rothgeb
You know, and we had a guy in order to kind give a great demonstration but and Bernie kind of prints the stuff he needs. Same thing. And it is some cool stuff like, you know, I like to build my collections and, you know, doing like a AMC, ah you know, thoughts of if I ever get enough of these AMCs built together.
00:53:03
Torben Rothgeb
You know, they have the 3D plastic AMC logo that you can print or just different stuff like that would look good on a diorama or, you know, a base or something. perfect Yeah.
00:53:14
Torben Rothgeb
You know, print trophies that go along with cars that want to race. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, it is. animals Clearly, i think the future, I think.
00:53:25
Torben Rothgeb
A lot of people who said, there's no way I'm going to get a 3D printer. They're so cheap. They don't take up much space. Well, they're only going get cheaper too. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They'll be so they'll be in everybody's work you know workshop.
00:53:37
Torben Rothgeb
Basically. yeah At some point. at some point, they're going to be you know your yeah builder's friend or whatever you want to call it. Builder's best friend. Yeah. Yeah.
3D Printing in Modeling
00:53:48
Torben Rothgeb
So, yeah, that's my three. Now, it is a little ah cleaning it. you know ah You got a lot of ah the 91% alcohol.
00:53:55
Torben Rothgeb
They talk about at at the computer place, they wanted to sell me a cleaning kit for $100. Yeah. And Harold was like, no, that's a waste of money. Just buy a big jug of the the alcohol. Rubbing alcohol. And the rubbing alcohol.
00:54:10
Torben Rothgeb
Dump it in like a five-gallon bucket. Basically, you have the tray. I've got a paper I can write. yeah We can listen to the show and remind it. Okay. You got that tray that you you pour the resin on.
00:54:24
Torben Rothgeb
You just ah pour the – and he uses filters and pours the resin back into the resin bottle. How the resin smell? Is just like a resin body – Nothing compared to the 2K, man. It smells good.
00:54:36
Torben Rothgeb
You know, I had a funny 2K experience. just got a third ear coming out over here from the 2K. No, no, no. I blasted my gloves off with it. yeah ever You remember that chocolate stuff he used to put on ice cream?
00:54:49
Torben Rothgeb
Sure. And it would like, what did they call that? Chocolate crackle or something? It would be like rubber. We're going on some rows I've never heard of before. The fudge syrup, but then it would like turn hard on top of the ice cream. For sure, I did. Yeah, it actually means that. Okay.
00:55:03
Torben Rothgeb
Anyway. as I'm spraying the 2K, and all of a sudden, my glove has turned to like hard, like pound-pound, and then I hit the airbrush on it, and it blew the edge of my glove.
00:55:17
Torben Rothgeb
and I'm sitting away from that stuff. No way. Good Lord, this is one more reason to stay away from that stuff. sorry But maybe i I mixed it with um the self-leveling thinner because it was too thick and wasn't coming out.
00:55:35
Torben Rothgeb
And then I put some of the self-leveling thinner in or and when with the 2K. I mean, it came out all right. it's a I painted the javelin with it. so I mean, I got to polish it right um with the usual stuff, but it it ah came out okay.
00:55:50
Torben Rothgeb
But, um ah yeah, that is a Pache thing. It just needs a new O-ring. Is this an H one or something? Yeah, Pache the o-ring and i didn't realize i thought well it kind of came out halfway so i took the o-ring off and i i screwed the the nose thing back on it right jim allentine and then and luckily this wasn't the 2k thinner by then uh or the 2k stuff because then i was going to clean it out so i put you know the lacquer uh you know thing in it and so i go to spray it and without that o-ring it's going to my
00:56:22
Torben Rothgeb
face. Double whammy. has a Double whammy. Finger and then on your face. I'm lucky to be alive. and You are. Don almost outlived me.
00:56:36
Torben Rothgeb
And here's a guy talking about you know how long is it going to take me to finish all the kids. If I live you know forever. Can you live to this month? I mean no wonder you had to stock up on that 400...
00:56:51
Torben Rothgeb
leveling thinner when we went to the dungeon. He got like three bottles. It does spray good. It did help, but I don't know. ah you know Good Lord. Is there anything left? I'm going to go through it on Saturday. Is there anything left for us? and know Oh, yeah. There's plenty of stuff there.
00:57:05
Torben Rothgeb
ah Do you have any of the Mr. Surfacer primer?
00:57:10
Torben Rothgeb
I don't remember, but i i that does kind of segue into something that I discovered that I really like. Okay. So, you know, Mr. Hobby makes that, what is it, 1500, the black, flat black. and works That's a really great flat black. It's a great flat black. For like. Anything.
00:57:27
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Not just primer. but Oh, yeah, just to paint to paint something with that. I did a parachute and it was black and it's and it's a huge can. Nice. So, yeah, no, it's it's a... I airbrush and then same thing. If I'm using for like a chassis, I'm like, this looks fabulous. Yeah, it's really nice. don't need to put more paint over it. Yeah, Mr. Hobby is really, ah you know, they've they've really come out with a lot of great paint and supplies.
00:57:52
Torben Rothgeb
ah So, yeah anyway. All right. On to your 3D printer experience. Oh, so that was it. That that was pretty much it. But now, i you know, you do have to, you take the tray off and And then you dump that in the rubbing alcohol. Okay.
00:58:11
Torben Rothgeb
And then, ah you know, and so you're trying to, and then, um you know, again, Harold has these filters that you pour the rubbing alcohol back into the rubbing alcohol. So you're using the stuff over and over again. Sure. Okay. You know, which saves money and time.
00:58:26
Torben Rothgeb
But, you know, it's it's a little bit of a cleaning thing. So I would, you know, probably advise maybe try to keep printing stuff. Mm-hmm. as much stuff at the time before you have to clean it out again.
00:58:39
Torben Rothgeb
um and then, ah you know, of course you just leave it out in the sunlight, uh, to, uh, cure. Yeah. Okay. But, uh, no, ah it, uh, now, you know, the, the tech part of it is that, you know, where you're downloading it to your, drive and your USB thing that you still and you plug it in there and plug it in.
00:59:01
Torben Rothgeb
um but it's not, uh, it's not super hard. Okay. It is, uh, you know, pretty user-friendly. And i I do think it'll probably get cheaper and even more user-friendly. I mean, who knows? They'll probably have something at Hobby ah Lobby, like an Easy Bake Oven would just have. Easy Bake Oven with 3D printing. There you go. Stuff you can get off your, you probably your smartphone and probably right into it or something.
00:59:25
Torben Rothgeb
But no, I do think it is the future as far as, you know, i think it's one of those things where like, 10% to 20% of people in the hobby have it, and I think it'll be well over 50% before 2-1.
00:59:40
Torben Rothgeb
because it's it's It's going circumvent resume stuff. yeah Yeah. Not completely, but I mean. No, I would say that's true. um We'll see how things play out, you know.
00:59:53
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. yeah Okay. What do we got next, Torrance? Well, ah you know, we kind of brushed past the new releases, and you guys didn't necessarily have ah out of the new
Upcoming Model Releases
01:00:07
Torben Rothgeb
releases. You're talking about 72 Duster, Malco Gasser, Chevy Wagon, 65 Cuda.
01:00:17
Torben Rothgeb
Which ones are you, you know, at least just the round two ones. What are you most likely to get? Is the Malco Gasser like the one we saw? Like the one I built years ago. Oh, it's the map it's the Mustang. It's not the one. It's not the one. You built a Mustang? 68, 67 Mustang? Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:35
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. You don't remember that? No, I don't. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll go grab it. You're going to go get it. Dust off the 2K clear. Let us know what which one you're most likely to build or buy. Oh, the ones that are coming out, you mean? The wagon, the cuda, the duster, the gasser.
01:00:54
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, I mean, the gasser just a reissue. um from a few years ago. is the 65 cuda a fastback? Yes.
01:01:06
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, it's It's actually, it's only been done as like as a craftsman type kit. It never came with an engine. Oh, okay. So this one Won't have an engine when it first comes out. It'll be the Craftsman series, but it will eventually come with a with an engine and stuff.
01:01:25
Torben Rothgeb
There it is. Very nice. That'd be it. Looks really good. Thank you. It's got the barber style seats in it, you know, the striped seats.
01:01:37
Torben Rothgeb
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I would say the by far the taty the duster is probably the one that I would be interested in the most just because it's, you know, it's going to be a new tool apparently. So we'll see what it looks like.
01:01:52
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. but yeah But, yeah, no, I think they all i think they all have, ah you know, an I think the wagon actually has got potential. I think you could do like, you know, a theme kind of a build, whether it's you know.
01:02:06
Torben Rothgeb
I don't know if MCCM does that kind of stuff or not. They do, right? Yes. We'll see. I mean, I saw them at, they saw those cars. Yeah, they were all at Detroit. Detroit, yeah, right. But, yeah, no, I think they have a place, you know. Mm-hmm.
01:02:19
Torben Rothgeb
I think you can go in several different directions. I mean, i think I can see our our boy, Troy Deal, that he'd do a bunch of those weathered, either the Chevy wagon and then the 65 Cuda just seems like it should be almost weathered.
01:02:36
Torben Rothgeb
I don't know. It had a huge back window, so yeah it's right it's right for the gun gone rain Well, I do know. what Well, I mean, my dad had a 64 Plymouth Valiant and that was, uh, he paid a hundred dollars for it and it it was painted with blue house paint over it. Excellent. No backseat, rusted out, uh, you know, floorboards, uh, Sounds like good charmer oh it was a year. was a fun house for me at six years old. because it you know how Dropping stuff out of the floorboard. well when When you're talking about that, the Valiant, and switching that to a mom's
01:03:18
Torben Rothgeb
What was that? MG? MG on the back ledge of the MG. No, this was a safer. your life This was a lot safer. You lived to tell about it. I lived an Austrian area life from compared to that.
01:03:31
Torben Rothgeb
No, I have my own playpen back there because I don't know that the back seat was removed. So just think about a NASCAR chassis. So you could play in back, yeah. Yeah, could play the back. my Lord. The only problem was one time my dad. You did ice cream with the hardening chocolates. Yeah.
01:03:46
Torben Rothgeb
My dad backed into a light pole. yeah So i was I was up around the the hole with my hands over the back the front seat, you know, riding along.
01:03:57
Torben Rothgeb
And then my dad, he's he's backing up, talking to my brother. And my brother, maybe he was ah embarrassed. I don't know why he would be embarrassed with this piece of junk, Valiant, and, you know, no muffler, stuff like that. He's to asking my brother if he wants to ride home.
01:04:13
Torben Rothgeb
and you know My brother is just like pretending he doesn't know us. shit is and so My dad's backing up. He's like, Jay, Jay. He doesn't see that light point in the back.
01:04:24
Torben Rothgeb
and Then, boom. and Then, I got my hand around the front seat. and Then, boom, I run right in the package shelf, right in the ribs there. so a good thing I was young. The ribs healed pretty quick after that. These are fascinating remembrances of things past. I mean, yeah. um So, yeah, that's why i go to like a beater for the Plymouth Cuda. What's an 82 Petty Grand Prix?
01:04:49
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, that is a Salvinos one. you can You'll be able to build ah the either Kyle Petty or Richard Petty. Father versus son. It probably would look pretty cool.
01:05:02
Torben Rothgeb
It's like you've got Steven's. No, I mean, it's, you know, their're their monogram kits reissued or whatever. What's BBMC? That's a good question. That was left on there from last month.
01:05:15
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. i'll just so So maybe was it the Budweiser Monte Carlo? ah Because they did that. it was that oppos the Buddy Baker Monte Carlo. Buddy Baker, I get the prize. it can do Nice job. Nice job. yeah clerks and another Then, of course, there's the Jimmy Clark car that we'll see if we get because.
01:05:33
Torben Rothgeb
Torben and I have one along with Camel. We'll see. you mean you'll see if you get it? They're talking about getting that thing on the boat, like or it's not on the boat, but it's possibly having it out by the end of the year. Okay.
01:05:45
Torben Rothgeb
and already They've already got like their first, whatever you want to call it, allocation of pre-orders. It sounded like, yeah, it was really close. This is from on like the last week or two. Okay.
01:05:57
Torben Rothgeb
And they've got um someone good painting, building one now. They've got... Clay Kemp. Clay Kemp's going to build one or two of them. The only thing I don't know is who's going to get theirs done first, Clay Kemp or Luca C?
01:06:13
Torben Rothgeb
Because he's apparently working on one as well. Right. But I think his is more of a test shot. Okay. So you're you're going with Clay getting his done. Yeah. Well, they're talking about... In an upset.
01:06:24
Torben Rothgeb
Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's... He's already got his best to show, you know, the last two shows that he went to. So his, you know, his plate is clean. So he's yeah got plenty of, you know.
01:06:35
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. And he's pretty fast, too. He is. He's amazing. Him and his buddy Jay, man. They get stuff together He banged out a couple of out-of-the-box Salvino's kits. I'm trying think what the one was.
01:06:48
Torben Rothgeb
It was a Roadrunner. Was this at the Acme show? No, this was after the Acme show. This was, who's the gentleman that, they had his car at Milwaukee in the swap meet.
01:07:01
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, was a Ramo Scott or something. Yeah. It was a super, it was a super bird or a Daytona. It was a USAC guy. Yeah. It was a USAC super
Race Car Builds & Features
01:07:11
Torben Rothgeb
bird. Anyway, he did a USAC road runner for that Ramo Scott car and he built it out of the box and it's beautiful. And then he also did a, another one too. was another, I don't think of it.
01:07:25
Torben Rothgeb
I think it was a, Dale Earnhardt car. He actually had it at Acme. um It was a Dale Earnhardt. Junior? No, senior. Okay. no senior and okay um If you went online, you'd see it because it was built out of the box. It was there was another one that just shake and bake and he had it done.
01:07:42
Torben Rothgeb
and you know These are ones that were the the MPC chassis. you know the Oh, an Earnhardt car with an MPC chassis? Not literally MPC, but the the shifting luarian yeah move so adjustable They were Salvino's kits. Was it the number two car then? Yeah, it was the number two. Number two, okay.
01:08:03
Torben Rothgeb
yeah like I built the Oldsmobile when it first came Yeah, isn't that the one that doesn't actually have a sponsor on it? um Yeah, it's kind of like French Blue and Daytona Yellow. He built one of those, too.
01:08:16
Torben Rothgeb
Alright, nice. Yeah, well, he's fantastic builder. Anyway, so yeah, i know he's going to build one of the clark the Clark cars. And then I thought somebody was... I thought it might have been him, but somebody's building the number 82, which is the which is red you know the red red one Number 82 was the green and yellow one.
01:08:36
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Yeah, it was Jimmy Clark. They actually had a picture of one of the... red Red, white, and blue ones. I can't who was. This was the real car they had a picture of, though.
01:08:47
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, okay. but because Because the STP ones. Yeah, it was the STP. But I mean, red yeah yeah. That was 66. Yeah. With white walls. With white walls. Yeah, that's that's what they're doing. Yeah. They're all cool cars. They're all cool cars. And by 65. But for 200, I can't build all four of them. But anyway, so yeah. I know we're talking about new releases, so this fits within the mold. So yeah, they're doing...
01:09:08
Torben Rothgeb
um The road course wings for. so yeah. yeah l At Polo's car. And i can't remember. Well, if and there they are coming out with definitely coming out with this year.
01:09:23
Torben Rothgeb
ah For the Helio Castroneves. And they've been approved just last night. Breaking news. Too bad we don't have a news bulletin.
01:09:34
Torben Rothgeb
The Sato winner is also coming out. That's in 2020. That's probably going to a year now. They're going to build that Indy winner too.
01:09:47
Torben Rothgeb
Well, yeah, so they're doing Elio Castroneves' Indie Winner. Right. And they're also doing his long beach car with the wings or whatever. With the road course wings. With the road course wings. Okay. And actually, it's, you know, it's pink.
01:10:02
Torben Rothgeb
they do look a lot better actually it looks really nice well if they did the polo car with the road course wings that's a good look it's a DHL sponsored one so it's tempting you tempted by the fruit of another tempted by the fruit of another yep it is but again I went through enough pain you know so did he you enjoy pain I'm still in pain you're still in pain for it Mr. Pain
01:10:31
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. no Pain that never goes away. i do like those road course ones because I think the Indy wings, i would agree speak like they look too small.
01:10:44
Torben Rothgeb
It adds some interest in the car. It makes it more unique to itself. yeah And it it looks it looks more, i don't know what you want to call it, racy or competitive or whatever. When you look at the the cart cars they made in 98 and 99, those came with both wings.
01:11:00
Torben Rothgeb
and Those are great. Those are great kits to build. The nose and the the nose and was different and both. and the ring Yeah, it was great. well you know and and Like so many things it with Salvinos, at one point they said it would be they had they'd have both ones or both versions and then now this is 3d printed right um well that's true yeah the the parts are actually the wings are actually 3d printed okay and they're and then but they say in future but maybe they will come in the kit who knows um you know they were going to redo the yeah the chassis at one point redo that uh mopar chassis and then we know that's never gonna happen okay and the super bird and whatever didn't get done but they are doing um
01:11:45
Torben Rothgeb
The Toyota eventually and the new Chevy because Chevy is going to have a new body for the the next gen. um Yes, the Chevy is going with a new body.
01:11:56
Torben Rothgeb
and So is the Toyota, isn't it? yeah Well, no, the Toyota has been the same. That's why they haven't done a Toyota this year. Right. So the Toyota and so they're going to do those together. Speaking of.
01:12:08
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Well, now that was the first version of the Toyota. two thousand The Martin Truex one that I did. Maybe 22, 23. Because I think they changed it.
01:12:19
Torben Rothgeb
They might have even changed it for the last two years that Toyota's had a different body. And so um they're going to be doing that um with the new Chevy body.
NASCAR Recap & Highlights
01:12:31
Torben Rothgeb
I do feel bad for them. I feel like they're unlucky. Like... With the um the race, did either you guys watch the race? so I watched the last NASCAR race. Yeah. Yeah, you know, ah nobody's to feel sorry for the... Harvey?
01:12:46
Torben Rothgeb
No, Hamlin. Nobody's going to bad for Hamlin. But, man, the guy was driving away with it with about three laps left. And then a tire broke loose. And then, so he comes to the pit, getting pit stopped.
01:12:59
Torben Rothgeb
And then he takes on four tires. And then Kyle Larson gets two. And then so did, was it Chase Briscoe got two? and the rest is history.
01:13:10
Torben Rothgeb
And the rest is history. So he lost it on the list. Going into double secret overtime or whatever they call it. Yep. And then, but, you know, to to Larson's credit, he made a ah great pass starting. He had a good restart.
01:13:22
Torben Rothgeb
He was in the right place at the right time. And what even made it even worse is like three or four cars stayed out and didn't get any tires. So then it was a jumbled up mess. Where was this at?
01:13:32
Torben Rothgeb
This was Phoenix. andnix And so not surprisingly, ah you know, Ryan Blaney won the race. And so everybody breathed a sigh of relief when none of the Penske cards made the final four. oh Because Penske has had that track down.
01:13:49
Torben Rothgeb
So this four electric was not a Penske car, in it? It wasn't. Right. um Because, you know, they would be the favorite to win it again. So who are the four? Well, no, it was four.
01:13:59
Torben Rothgeb
It was William Byron, Kyle Larson for Hendrick, and then Chase Briscoe and Denny Hamlin for Gibbs. um But then that's Kyle Larson won Didn't Byron drive for Hendrick, though? Yeah. What did you say that? It was William Byron and Larson. And then he actually crashed or whatever.
01:14:19
Torben Rothgeb
They all blew tires, too, which is a funny thing. Because they were all kind of pushing the edge on these tires. And so all four of the final four guys blew tires. So how many races are left?
01:14:30
Torben Rothgeb
That's it. That's it. So Kyle Larson won the championship. Oh, okay. Number two. And it's kind of bad luck for them because they're like, well, we're doing the champion. and it's like okay yeah salar like that car it's like they've done it like three times it's a real the same you know i think i might actually build it this time just because it it won champion and you know but it is such a boring car it's just this medium blue and white i actually like just i mean i think it's probably at this point it's iconic
01:15:03
Torben Rothgeb
Because he's run the same car for four years in an era where guys run. Yes. Well, in an era of just ah where people run a different car every different every race now. um um So it does at least have some familiarity.
01:15:18
Torben Rothgeb
And he's won two championships in it now. So it's an iconic scheme. um But yeah, i do feel bad for Salvino's because they're like the things they go out on a limb for. Like, you know, they they were all in on the Kyle Larson Indy thing. And then that didn't really pan out that great.
01:15:35
Torben Rothgeb
And so they did the double kit. And I guess they sold most of them at least. So, but still. um didn't really sell well and then they did the the indy winners but new garden winning it two years in a row i mean i built one but i was like i can't build the same car two years in a row they actually did the kyle larson both years yeah with both with the nascar and the indy car yeah for the 500 so think about if he would have somehow won one of those races they would have sold lot more it would have changed a lot you know um but then And then even this year, Alex Palau wins it, but it's another red and yellow car.
01:16:10
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, it's cool-looking car, but still. right but So they haven't always had the best of luck. um And, again, it's just like very thankful to have them building new and current things, but they do leave you wanting more on a lot of things. But we're glad to have them.
01:16:28
Torben Rothgeb
And I've certainly given them a lot of business over the years. And so and you're still in the club. I'm still in the club. Not a lot of people can say that. ah we We've given them money. i mean I tell you, they keep sending me any of these 77 Monte Carlo kits, though. I tell you. that There's more coming, though.
01:16:47
Torben Rothgeb
You think? Oh, yeah. Well, they've done the Gatorade one, and they've done ah two of the Grey Ghost Monte Carlos. And what's the one that just came out? The Buddy Baker one. The Grey Ghost kind of looking.
01:16:59
Torben Rothgeb
Grey Ghost paint scheme. Yeah, but it's... I mean, it's the same paint scheme. Grey and black. But the kit's not as good as the ones. Oh, no. That's what I'm getting at. No, that's what i'm saying. Yeah. So um hopefully they're out of the Monte Carlos.
01:17:12
Torben Rothgeb
They've done at least two petty Monte Carlos of that 77 Monte Carlo body. um hopefully Hopefully, they're not going do any more. I don't know. So when they're if they're doing the Superboard, looking at the kit the other day, the Johan one, is this one going to be more like a stock car?
01:17:28
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. They said they were going to model it after the Johan when they were talking about doing it. The Johan is not a stock car. Right. Right.
Challenges in Car Modeling
01:17:37
Torben Rothgeb
And since I don't know what I'm doing, I really noise that don't know what the F you're doing. Let's be clear. I'd have to modify it. So it's funny. And, you know, these people who were criticizing Bob for buying the Johan Superbird.
01:17:54
Torben Rothgeb
um what If you want to build that car, what what what's his choices? You're talking about the Johan one? Yeah, I have no choice. What would they have done? They say it's a street car. It's not a race car.
01:18:07
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, but if you want to do... So what would what would their alternative be? Well, that you'd have to modify the streetcar. Well, no, that's the only way you can really build a NASCAR Superbird is by changing stuff and making modifications. It wouldn't be that much. No, it's not. like I mean, you know, it's it's not like you're painting it something besides white.
01:18:34
Torben Rothgeb
yeah or Or you're always bringing, you know. The hardest thing for me is that Johan plastic is really thick. So when i was hogging out the front wheels, I felt like that took forever.
01:18:46
Torben Rothgeb
and therefore Some of the plastics weren't so hot. No, it was really thick. But the same token, I think for what it is, it's pretty damn accurate. Yeah. No, I think it looks great. i mean, the chassis is good. It looks good. i mean you know No, it looks good. and i would Yeah, I think you can use the chassis as a starting point, though. got to grind a bunch of stuff away. Yeah, but it's nothing like the chrome bumpers on the Salvinos, you know, know with the moto tool and the you know welder.
01:19:14
Torben Rothgeb
well But, you know, actually... um We're going to get a viewer. We're going to to see. It's showtime. Absolutely. And this is built from the Johan kit. Built from the Johan kit.
01:19:28
Torben Rothgeb
So you hogged out the front reels. Some. I could have done it even more. bias it was um But then, you know, the chassis isn't horrible. I think I cut out the exhaust.
01:19:40
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, you cut out the exhaust. Cut out the exhaust. um You put a different gas tank in it. Yep. Yep. um But not much work. Certainly not as much compared to that Bobby Allison Daytona.
01:19:51
Torben Rothgeb
It was levels before you picked it up. It was not. I just can't remember it being level. It was levels. No, I'm trying to remember what I did to the chassis. Yeah.
01:20:03
Torben Rothgeb
I still got some petty blue paint on that. I might do the Pete Hamilton just to annoy people, so... i won the day It was actually, one two big one would argue, the most po ah most successful super speedway on there.
01:20:16
Torben Rothgeb
Because, yeah, ah Bobby Isaac won the championship, but he won a lot of short track races. not short track that you know the The theory was what? The Hemi had more torque than maybe the Ford engine or something. So that's why it performed better on the short tracks.
01:20:30
Torben Rothgeb
before like He won 20 races, but they were all like dirt track-ish. What was that? Asheville type shit kind of stuff. And so Hamilton won both Daytonas and a Talladega.
01:20:44
Torben Rothgeb
yeah So it could be argued he was the most successful on Speedless. I just got my decals and my tires coming from... Mike's decal. so Nice, nice. now Now, you talk about people who do business, right? He does great.
01:20:57
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, Mike's decals. It always arrives like that. And if there ever has been a mistake, he's like, keep keep the ones you got. I'll send you the new ones. Right. You know, he's he's really great. Top notch.
01:21:10
Torben Rothgeb
So are we up to the favorite MPC kits as the final? Well, there is one more thing okay that I have to cover. um Mark Badsom. He's got a channel. Great show.
01:21:21
Torben Rothgeb
Great guy. Seems like a very nice guy. Great builder. Yes, great builder. He is doing a build-off um for ah content providers.
01:21:34
Torben Rothgeb
And you're content provider. Well, we're all content providers, right? Don't sell yourself short. I'm a guest. Guest. Get me on the show someday and then we can. make Maybe we can get. Well, that the person who did the like guitar something, guitar that made the opening song, I would have to go back and redo.
01:21:58
Torben Rothgeb
Not Fender, but now that they're one of our sponsors, who knows. but um GarageBand, that's what it's called. GarageBand. You make can make songs. Sure. Anyway, I had an IT person make our songs.
01:22:11
Torben Rothgeb
and that's But you know you hadn't signed on yet when we made the song for our Tiny Car Podcast. but So then I'm out? I will try to take my place. It's a solo act. It always is.
01:22:29
Torben Rothgeb
Maybe Claude can make some decals for us. We don't know where Claude is I hope we that's okay yeah he's great He's a great guy. great guy ah Very generous. so so What's the build-off for?
Community Challenges & Exposure
01:22:46
Torben Rothgeb
so i The Mark Batson channel had a content provider ah build-off. and Basically, you build any kind of, and he had a lot of examples on this, any kind of panel van, any kind of van, any kind of truck, and then you have your logo on it.
01:23:09
Torben Rothgeb
So you build like a tiny car podcast thing. It would be great. a tiny car It'd be great exposure for the show. You know, might push us over the top. You might want to want to know but you might want to do a color logo because right now you're you know number two pencil.
01:23:27
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Oh, okay. here um Am I wrong? Well, I, you know, ah You're talking about getting some swag going. We got sponsors now.
01:23:38
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Right? Yes. Maybe Randy would kick in and into to pay for a... A super chat. That's what the YouTube guys get. A super chat. But you know what the other thing i could do? What's that? was talking to Mike Klessig. So Nancy, his wife, no longer does dog grooming.
01:23:52
Torben Rothgeb
She's doing flannel shirts with logos on the back. Oh, nice. We should. We really should. Mike said he was going to get me one with some car stuff. I said, I'll call him back and say,
01:24:04
Torben Rothgeb
We're going design a tiny podcast. Tiny car podcast flannel. There you go. Absolutely. you Do you want some jammy jams too? We can roll out to Milwaukee with those tiny car podcasts.
01:24:17
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, we do. We need to update exposure. Any type of a van. Yeah, any kind. We could even do a race team. I don't know if you want to put that. But if we all get to building, you could do the Volkswagen band.
01:24:33
Torben Rothgeb
You could do the trailer. You don't seem too motivated by this. could do a race car that the Volkswagen would haul or something like that. Well, you know, this month's MCCM theme is hauling stuff, right? Trailers.
01:24:47
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. It's car haulers and trailers. Well, just in time from Bruce Larson. Just in time. You're going to knock the socks off next Wednesday, a week from today. Nice. Hasn't it done already?
01:24:58
Torben Rothgeb
Pretty much. I mean, I got some engine compartment stuff to to add to it. that they It's going to roll on a highway. Roll on crew. roll Roll on crew. Roll on. Roll on. Sorry. Well, speaking of rolling on. Okay. um But, yeah, well we'll maybe think about possible projects we can do for that.
01:25:20
Torben Rothgeb
Like said, I think would be good exposure. You know, Mark Batson has his own channel. Just having the car on there, if he shows it, you know, could get our name out there. Sure.
01:25:30
Torben Rothgeb
Sure. Okay, so then that does lead us to our Super 6, brought to you by Super 8 Motels. The best day in town, free breakfast.
01:25:41
Torben Rothgeb
um Super 6, our favorite, you know, since our rock roll and remember was MPC, our six favorite MPC kits. Take it away, Bob.
01:25:53
Torben Rothgeb
Well, can I just do them all now? Or do we go one-to-one, one-to-one? You know, I think it's better radio when we do it round robin. Okay, going go first. One's the McLaren M8D.
01:26:04
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Really? Mm-hmm. No, I'd probably go with the, um, 70 Barracuda. Well, being the NASCAR person, uh, I would, and since I've probably invested more money, I'd like to think about buying these over the years. Oh, come on. The, uh, Dodge Daytona, um,
01:26:23
Torben Rothgeb
K&K one that came with the race bucket that i had resin cast and some other racing parts. So I'm going to go with the McLaren M8B.
01:26:34
Torben Rothgeb
Well, then I'm going to go into the the next phase, which would be the Roadrunner, 71 Roadrunner, Pedicara or the you know one you gave me. Yeah, sadly, they were going to reissue that at one point. Why didn't they reissue that?
01:26:50
Torben Rothgeb
I don't think they found all the parts of the mold. Because they even put it in one of the magazines. No, and I know that thats this is years that's gone on that they talked about. Yeah, no, I think it's something happened to it that it's no longer there. Because they have all the molds.
01:27:07
Torben Rothgeb
ah hu I mean, they've they've found them all, you know. so um But, yeah, no, I think that's that would be second. What was your second one there? Well, as a big pickup fan, and you know my grandpa had a 70 Chevy, I would just say all of the the one I got from you, I think it was 67, 68. Yeah,
01:27:31
Torben Rothgeb
That was a Dr. Kevorkian tow truck. Yeah. It wasn't Dr. Kevorkian. It was Kevorkian Brothers. Kevorkian Brothers. Is this when you rip out of Leroy's hands? i No, but Burpee. Paul Burpee called me the next day. It's a true Paul Burpee story because he even asked you first for about, what, $40, $50 or something? Yeah, $40.
01:27:52
Torben Rothgeb
And so then I bought it for $40. And then I get the call. I didn't sell it, so I gave it him for $40. And then go ahead. The next day, I i look up and I...
01:28:03
Torben Rothgeb
At some point, I must have stored his name on there. I look up and it's Paul Burpee. so It's Paul Burpee. I'm like, I'm at work, but I'm on a break. I'm like, this should be good. got to hear this. It's like, Torben.
01:28:15
Torben Rothgeb
ah And then he said it, Kevorkian Brothers. right And at first, I didn't look at the box. Kevorkian Brothers? What is he talking about? yeah the The truck you bought yesterday. I was like, I'm willing to give you $10 more. I'm willing to give you $50 for it.
01:28:31
Torben Rothgeb
And I was like, no, I've, and that that by then i'd already printed off a bunch of pictures of the 67. It's already started in my brain.
01:28:43
Torben Rothgeb
okay You know, the only thing that kind of puts me back is the, the grill on those um like the 67, 68 Chevy trucks in between the Chrome was body color. So it's pretty tricky because the whole front is Chrome.
01:29:00
Torben Rothgeb
So then you're kind of, de-chroming around, but you want to keep the chrome. the only other but The only other possibility was the work trucks were white instead of chrome. So you'd have body color with the white around it. Which would look nice.
01:29:16
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. That would look nice, yeah. And be easier. would be easier to go back and touch up, although with the chrome pens now, who knows. But yeah, so that that's the only thing that's kind of kept me up. But that, yes, the 67...
01:29:27
Torben Rothgeb
ah the sixty seven Through 72 or 71, no, 72 Chevy pickup trucks from MPC. My third one is, of course, the famous touring car that came within six laps of winning the 500 Parnelly Jones drove.
01:29:43
Torben Rothgeb
So, yeah, for three for me would be the Sox and Murr, I should say, the Motown Missile Barracuda. Okay. Motown Missile, yes. yeah That is a good. icon Iconic. So that could fit the theme for.
01:29:59
Torben Rothgeb
challenge or whatever. So anyway, another thing I've spent some money on, the, the Trans Am, uh, cars. Um, the Trans Am probably, I guess they started their first one was 70.
01:30:12
Torben Rothgeb
So 70 all the way through 81 Amps. and okay But specifically the more rare ones, so 70 through 76. I guess they weren't technically Trans Ams.
01:30:24
Torben Rothgeb
The first one was a Trans Am, 70, but then they went to Formula Firebirds. okay The fourth one for me would be the other turbine car, which was in 24 scale, the the wedge car from 68.
01:30:39
Torben Rothgeb
That'd be another one of the funny cars, probably the Mr. Norm 68 Charger. Mr. Norm. It's in your packet. Okay. Well, another one of my high-dollar unbuilt kits that I do want to build, because I'm a builder, not a collector, um the Dick Trickle Mustang. Okay, there you I do want to build that. cool-looking car.
01:31:07
Torben Rothgeb
Cool. So number five for me would be, of course, Dan Grooney's Eagle that he finished second in 1968. IndyCar. The MPC version of what you were talking about, the trickle car.
01:31:20
Torben Rothgeb
They did a Barracuda. Yes. Oh. Okay. In that same modified series. hu Although it didn't have the right engine in it, though. It was pretty rare. ah yeah. The Barracuda and Camaro were probably the most rare, right?
01:31:34
Torben Rothgeb
What's your number five? um Well, i talked about the that whole muscle car series, although it was Ertl technically by then.
01:31:45
Torben Rothgeb
But, you know, still they were under the
Rare Muscle Cars Discussion
01:31:50
Torben Rothgeb
MPC heading. The Charger 500 and the, you know, 70 GTO and 71 Mustang, even though the Revell one is better and I built it. But just, you know looking at those boxes, boxes were real cool.
01:32:07
Torben Rothgeb
Well, number six for me, of course, would be the Rizzlon Eagle, the car that actually won the 68500, driven by one of my favorite drivers. Who's That's it, Rizzlon. That's it.
01:32:20
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. That's the sponsor turn that was thinking of. Rizzlon. Okay, there you go. Anyway, no, and then, yeah, I would just pick one for for my sixth one. It would be one of their shell rods.
01:32:31
Torben Rothgeb
Not those two. but they But they did some interesting ones that were actually done by legitimate car customizers. Okay. Okay.
01:32:42
Torben Rothgeb
Cool. And, Darvin, you have the last word, my man. The last always says word. um Let's see did they They did a Cougar, right? cougar Did they do the Cougar funny car? What's the Cougar? All right. I will go with that.
01:33:01
Torben Rothgeb
so Cougar. You can do either the Charmin Cougar or you can do the Dino Don Mickelson. Yes. There were several that they did.
01:33:12
Torben Rothgeb
That was always a pretty cool car. All right. Well, want to thank everybody for staying with us the whole hour and a half plus.
01:33:25
Torben Rothgeb
And we hope you're having a wonderful, wonderful season. Hope you're enjoying a lot of pumpkin lattes and had a great Halloween. And as we approach Thanksgiving, hope there's a lot of things to be thankful for.
01:33:40
Torben Rothgeb
I know I am thankful ah for you guys and thankful thank you for the Tiny Car Podcast. I'm going to show you in there for Thank you for all of our wonderful fans, and we are going to try to get some swag out. And thank you for all of our sponsors as well. Good night, Irene. We'll talk to you hopefully next month.
01:34:02
Torben Rothgeb
Good night, Irene. Here we go.
01:34:07
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, Lord.