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S1E17: Astrology
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Join us in today's episode where we interview astrology expert, Sarah Sherman. First of many episodes to come, we dive into aspects of the chart beyond your Sun sign, transits through specific houses, mercury retrogrades and more.
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00:00:01
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Hey, everyone. Welcome to Spiritually Desperate with myself, Psychic Medium, Jimmy Bay, and my co-host, spiritual enthusiast, Danny Amaya. Please join us as we deep dive into the soul, connect with Spirit to help answer some of life's challenges. We'll be discussing a variety of topics to help guide you and keep you in empowered. Let's begin.
00:00:23
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Hey, everyone. This is Psychic Medium, Jimmy Bay. I'm here with Danny and Maya and my good friend Sarah Menendez Sherman, who's an astrologer. And today is all about astrology talk. How is everyone? Awesome. Doing good. So excited for this one. Doing good. Yeah, same. I'm really excited that Sarah's here with us today. And Sarah, thank you so much for joining us. We've been friends a while and um you came in for a reading to see me and
00:00:54
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I found out you did astrology and we just kind of clicked and we've been friends ever since. And so and I'm so happy you could be here. Me too. Thanks for having me on. I'm feeling really honored to be here.
00:01:08
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I feel like Sarah, we've talked about you in multiple episodes, and it's just so nice to have you. It was always, when Sarah's on, or Sarah said, I was a big expert astrologer. So I apologize that we kind of just nominated you. What? No apologies. It's such an honor and a Yeah. And so I was always curious as to how people got started. I know in our very first episode, we had asked Jimmy how we got started. He has a pretty unique kind of story. You can just give our listeners a little, just a little insight into how you got started in this. That would be great. Um, wow. So I started looking at my chart when I was like 18, when I was a freshman in college. And yeah, it was my first year in college and I kind of got started with it just like for my own personal self discovery.
00:01:59
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And then I spent 20 years thinking I wasn't good enough to do this for anyone else. In the beginning I thought, oh wow, I know so much. But then I got to a point where I was like, oh my gosh, I really know nothing. um And I think I spent the first 10 years of astrology trying to get a grasp on my own blueprint and my own chart. And I really struggled to apply it to anyone else. But I'd say like,
00:02:27
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The second decade I got into astrology is when I really started to understand the pieces of the puzzle and how to apply them for other people. But really, ultimately, I started with wanting to see myself because I felt like a mystery to myself.
00:02:48
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and I wanted to solve that mystery. And then having the experience of having my chart read by a professional made me feel so incredibly seen. Like I was brought out of the dark and like into the light. It just felt, and I was like, wow, for the first time I don't feel invisible like to myself and to the world. And I just realized like, I have to do this for people. I have to make people not feel invisible and I have to make them feel seen and heard. And and then recently having my chart read by someone who like actually made me love my chart. We have this tendency to kind of look at our chart and just kind of be like, oh, you know, just roll our eyes and we just kind of like grunt like, geez, why, you know? But I just, I think my two things that really inspired me to do this by starting with myself was wanting to feel seen and not invisible and wanting to love my blueprint and love my chart and love my potential.
00:03:48
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and so that I could be whatever I was made to be. So I think I was really just trying to move myself out of self-blame and shame because I was forcing life and people and things to be what I wanted instead of just understanding and allowing things to be whatever life wanted them to be. And so astrology really helped me like cross over.
00:04:12
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from like blame and judgment and frustration into like, I'm not invisible. There's nothing to be ashamed of. And like everything is really perfect the way it is. That makes sense. I love that. That makes total sense. Beautiful.
00:04:26
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And to add to what you're saying, Sarah, when we had met, I had just lost my mother. I had a sweeping of friends that just left my life. I was in such a place of transition. And you really gave me a lot of clarity on that. And you're right. We kind of take everything in and think there's something wrong with us. And we don't understand the aspects of how the planets influence us and can be guides for us. And I think that's the one thing I could say, having worked with you and studying a little bit under you that you've taught me. I also, much like you, I had a reader And astrologer read my chart when I was in my 20s, and he told me I would be a great psychic, but I needed to learn how to lie. So like I said, my great grandmother, you know, with my history, you know, my background had taught me a little bit of astrology, but I didn't dive deep dive in the charts or anything. And when I had that experience in my 20s with some guy in New York, and he told me I would be a great psychic, but you need to learn how to lie. You need to learn to be diplomatic. You can't necessarily tell the truth.
00:05:23
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And that I've not found to be true. And um I think he said it had something to do with being a Libra rising, that I need to be very diplomatic because where Libra is in my chart, so I can be quite blunt and quite direct. And he was like, oh, you'll have more clients if you just lie and tell them what they want what they want to hear. And having met you, and when we first met, how we not only did we connect, but just knowing you were on point with your astrology, just in casual conversation, you've been a true blessing in my life.
00:05:54
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Oh, that's so sweet. And that is such crazy advice to give, lying to a client. I mean, that's not, very we're not here to perform, we're here to serve. This is a service and lying is not a service. You know, I think that omitting based on assessing whether a person is ready for something is different, you know, because we're using our power responsibly in that way. um But really,
00:06:19
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For me, the real power comes in the honesty of addressing a pattern. You know, we're all just really, you know, so soulful individuals that are like fleshing out patterns. And that's what the chart, what I love about the chart is that when you pull up a chart, you create a distance between you as a human and like the self that's not, that's more of a soul and not so human, you know, there's space between the soul and the human is set when the chart is up.
00:06:49
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because you get to see yourself from that eagle eye view. And so I think that creating that space and being in that soul space and seeing your humanity on a chart, trying to play itself out creates more compassion and more objectivity. And then there's a willingness to understand and see a pattern and then possibly a willingness to like figure out how to intervene and be a different version of yourself. So that's really what I strive for when I pull up a chart and read it. And that's the place I come from.
00:07:19
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And to me, I feel like in your readings, It would be so hard for you to lie. You're so authentic and honest, you know? I feel like it would have hurt you to say something that you don't know. It does. um um I'm not a good lot i not a good liar. I tell people I'd rather tell have you not ask me than tell me to lie to you. That's so That's so funny. Yeah, so don't don't ask what you don't want to know because you're lying. But people pay good money. like I'm not wasting your time and your money lying to you. You're not here for that.
00:07:52
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It's true. And you know, Sarah, I paid I think $200 for this guy. Like this was when I was young, young. And um like I said, I was going up to New York a lot. I forget his name, but he was just absolutely awful. And he didn't tell me anything about my chart. And it's like you're saying the one thing I can say, she's correct in stating about patterns. I've started to see how the planets influence me as a person or activate light up within me and the patterns they're creating and what to either break or work on what needs what's my strength what's my weakness weaker areas and just being sometimes it's just being aware of the pattern so that you don't repeat it and fall into what's comfortable yes awareness that's really the chart for me is a tool for awareness absolutely a big one and so with the awareness it's really just
00:08:41
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How do you, you know, awareness empowers you and it puts you into a place of choice. You're not a victim of your pattern and you're not frustrated by the outcomes that keep repeating themselves. Right. Exactly. I feel empowered already. I don't know about you all, but someone's listening going, okay, I'm pretty new. I pulled up this thing and called an astrological chart. Uh, what are the first couple planets or things I should ah look into? I think.
00:09:10
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as a collective we're moving past just knowing your sun sign right but maybe we can kind of go over the the big three to start off if that's all right so your sun and your moon and your rising and kind of the significance of why maybe you want to learn more than just your sun sign oh yeah okay so i'm a huge fan of the moon um i'm actually obsessed with the moon Because I have a Capricorn moon and so do you, Danny. So Pluto is essentially known for obsession. And so I guess as it hit my moon, I've been obsessed with the moon. But the reason why I'm obsessed with the moon.
00:09:46
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It's the oldest part of who we are in the chart. The moon points to our memory of being inside the womb. It's our prenatal memories. The moon points to our instinct for survival. Mars is really survival, but the moon is essentially the way we form our bond with our caretaker in order to assure our survival. And so the moon points to the imprint of the mother the first bond we experience and how that bond creates the template for nurturing and security and stability and safety and connection. And so the moon points to what we need to feel safe and nurtured and how we connect. So when people do like sun sign compatibility, Oh, this sign is good for this sign, not that sign. I'm like, bullshit, show me the moon right now. I want to see the moon. Cause the moon is really like, you know, we,
00:10:42
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how we feel emotionally connected, where we feel safe to open up and be vulnerable. like All that is the moon. And that has so much to do with compatibility, so much more than the sun. And the moon was developing before our birth. The sun is the identity. it's like the e There's two ego planets. There's Mars and the sun. But the sun as an ego planet is more about identity and core. Core identity, like this is who I am.
00:11:08
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And that sun doesn't really start to develop until like maybe age four or five. the sentence So ages zero to four, you know children aren't even aware of themselves as being separate. right And they don't really see themselves as being anything until they start to talk and walk and they start to like express themselves. And so the moon kind of shows who we what we what we know of life before our first memories.
00:11:35
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and that those memories and those experiences like live inside our body and they're so beyond our subconscious awareness and so our moon it's like our inner child and it's what we experience of our mom really kind of sets the sets the stage as a template for the way that we connect moving forward in life and so I think that like the moon shows what people crave and It just speaks to the deeper parts of you that might not ever come up in conversation, the parts of you that you might not share with people in your life. Whenever I go straight to the moon in a chart reading, I mean, the conversation goes deep. And we have conversations about things, me and clients, that they don't really have conversations about with most people in their lives. So the reason why I go from the moon is because I set that tone for intimacy and safety and receptivity, right?
00:12:34
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when I go to the inner child and the moon and the experience of the mother, because when you're an infant, you're really vulnerable. It's really, does the mother gonna respond to you and feed you? Like that literally determines your survival. And I mean, the infants are so preciously dependent on that mother and like that experience is paramount. And so the moon shows the emotional experience of birth and how delicate and fragile and impressionable it is. And then if you go to the ascendant,
00:13:03
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the ascendant is the moment of birth, right? And so why, you know, the moment like birth, the ascendant is the point where the constellations all in the Eastern horizon, whatever constellation is rising, that's the ascendant. And so when you're born, you literally like, that's the lens you see the world through. So imagine like the sun in the chart is like the core naked self. And the ascendant is like the cloak that that the naked self wears around to protect themselves so they can go out into the world and interact with the world. Right? So like the sun and the ascendant are very, you know, like the sun isn't really separate. The sun needs a way to express itself. And the ascendant is the way that the sun expresses itself because the sun is like the nucleus of the atom. You can't really see the nucleus of the core. It needs a way out. And so the birth point, which is why the birth time is so important,
00:13:58
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right So the ascendant and the moment of birth marks all the houses and otherwise planets are just kind of out in space and there's nothing to bring, it's birth that brings the chart to earth and it's birth that gives us the houses. And so ascendant, that point, that point in the chart, that axis, that ascendant, descendant, that's a very intimate point because that's the point of birth and that's the point of connection. And so you can do a chart without a birth time but you're missing a key, you're missing a really key part Without that birth time, you can't relocate the chart. You can't do lines. You can't progress the chart. You can't do solar returns. There's lots of stuff. You're very limited without a birth time. And it's all astrology is all about time and place. you know It's a specific alignment of a unique longitude and latitude and a unique point in time. And that shapes the soul's destiny and blueprint for what they the work they came here to do.
00:14:56
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Um, and so it's just, it's so unique when you align time with space together, like the uniqueness of the chart speaks to like the soul's intentions of incarnation. I hope I'm making sense. I hope I'm not rambling. No, you make total sense. I'm, I'm enthralled. Oh, I love your analogies. Really? Yeah. The cloak, the nucleus, everything. It really, really helps.
00:15:24
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because Yeah, it really helps to put things into perspective. That makes sense of why you can have two of the same sun sign, but they feel so different, you know, two Scorpios and then depending on their rising, it makes sense that that's why they might portray or be in this world so differently, even if there are some four elements. Like a Scorpio with Gemini rising is probably going to be more outgoing, whereas a Scorpio isn't typically seen as outgoing, right? But a Scorpio with like Capricorn rising is going to be really reserved and really cautious.
00:15:54
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And so like to me, you're not just like, for example, you're a Capricorn, right? Danny, be of gemet you're a Gemini in Capricorn, right? You're not just a Capricorn. Capricorn is actually typically like reserved and cautious, you know? um But Gemini really loves to talk, you know? So Gemini's not reserved and cautious at all. but And so when you have a sentence that contradicts some placements, you know, like some Though that would create a person who might not identify with qualities of their sun as much. you know Or sometimes sometimes the sun in the chart can be weak, and the person, and there could be other planets that are stronger. And so that's why sometimes people look at their sun sign horoscope and they'll be like, oh, that's not true, or I'm not like my sun sign. And there's just, sun is very important in the chart, don't get me wrong. You just can't you can't condense a chart into one planet like a person
00:16:52
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is so much bigger than one planet in their chart, right? You're smiling. I have a question. Would an ideal weak sun be my like my placement with sun in the 12th house? Would that be considered a weak sun? Yeah, a 12th house sun can be weakened. you know The 12th house is like it's like the cosmic collective sea, right? It's like where the drop gets lost in the collective. and so It's interesting, because the 12th house is above the horizon. But things in the 12th house get buried beyond your subconscious awareness. And so it's interesting, you know the the cusp of the first house, that ascendant, that's the birth point. Because when you're born, you're coming from the collective sea, which is the 12th house. You're being born out of the 12th house into the ascendant. Well, that's an interesting perspective, yeah. So you're coming out of the formless sea into this form as ah as a person incarnate.
00:17:50
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from the 12th house into the ascendant. And that's the point of birth. And then, and then you go around the chart, you know? i hope that Right. I think that helps. Yeah. I think I know what you're saying where most people, they're born, the sun could be in a different house and they're already formed. I'm coming from a collective consciousness, kind of bringing that to life based on my ascendant. Yeah. You're really in tune. All the 12 house plants, especially the sun is going to be very in tune with the collective.
00:18:17
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Like it's very psychic too. My boyfriend, I don't know where he went, but he has a 12 house sun too. And the 12 house planets, I mean, they're kind of living in that subconscious realm where they're picking up on things that people are thinking and feeling and not expressing. And it's very, you're in tune. And so, but sometimes with a 12 house sun, you know, the sun is your light. It's the light that you shine in the world. It's your inner light.
00:18:45
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And so in the 12th house, you almost, it's like your light is kind of buried underground and you have to like dig it out. If that makes sense. No, I agree. I agree. I don't think anything for for me comes easily. And I think sometimes.
00:19:00
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ah connecting to people, I have a difficult time. like that you know Thank God I have a lot of other influences that make me very social, but in the same respect, sometimes I feel like I'm on a desert island in the middle of nothingness, like just existing. I almost see the 12-house sun as like you're a sea that's buried in the earth, and like you're germinating underground and you're trying to break through so that you know you can see the light. and so but the But the world doesn't see what you're doing or the process that's happening underground.
00:19:29
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Right? And so like what a 12 house son has to do to break through to get to be seen until it's a lot of work that people don't see or understand that's happening when a seed is germinating. You know what I mean? And so for 12 house son people, they need people in their lives that are patient with them and willing to help them do the work to dig themselves out. Does that make sense? That makes total sense. And I agree because a lot of times people are like, Oh, Jimmy, you're very positive. You're very, you're always in a good mindset and things. And that's not all, that's not necessarily true.
00:19:58
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Yeah, like discerning and like critical and a little bit picky. And like, you know, there's other qualities about you that aren't, that just aren't out there for the world to see. They're kind of birdied. And so people who are ready for you will take the time to unearth that part of you and expose that part of you and love that part of you. 12th house take work and patience. That's why I understand. That's such a good insight. Oh, bad. Sarah, in your experience,
00:20:26
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Or I guess, you you know what, and that just from hearing you speak, I feel like you're just like Jimmy. So if you have people that come to you asking for dating or the release the partner, excuse me, and like you touched on before, the sun sign. Because you know when you're dating someone, you're like, oh, what's their you hear like what's their sign? And then you're like, oh, gosh, like these two will never work. But when you get down to the nitty-gritty, do you believe like can you if a client comes to you, can you be like, no, this isn't or click in your head, or have you ever seen people work that you never normally would be like, wow, these aren't really compatible on paper, but they're together? questions Such a good question. In terms of compatibility, i I always start with the individual. If you want to do compatibility work, you got to start with you, because you're part of the equation, right and you're going to be a common denominator. So we can't ignore the common denominator and jump into the compatibility.
00:21:23
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So first thing I do is say like, let's look, let's look at your Venus. Let's look at your moon. What do you need emotionally to feel safe and secure? What do you crave and what are your values in relationships? That's Venus, you know, and what, and like, also let's look at how your chart lights up in general. When another person gets introduced to your chart, what gets lit up in you and how do you regulate and manage that?
00:21:48
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right? Because you're part of that equation of coming together with another person. And if you ignore that piece, you're missing a really crucial part of the picture, right? So the idea is that the more you understand yourself, the better you're able to choose a person that is compatible with your strengths.
00:22:09
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and a person that can help you nurture through challenges. So for example, I moved out west five years ago with a dude and our synestry was, synestry is what they call astrology when you put to our synestry was the worst. We literally had like the worst compatibility.
00:22:25
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yeah and And I looked at it and was like, as an astrologer, any person who brought these to me, I would tell them, no, don't do it. But I did it because I was like, you know what? I'm just going to put this thing on.
00:22:36
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went to as stology and And there are people who actually will defy, you know, certain indicators of compatibility. You know, free will. I do believe that fate is something in our lives that we can't we can't really fight or control or have any say in, but the free will is really like the realm of free will is basically how we cope with our fate. You know, like that way that we meet our fate and cope with it is our realm of free will, but we don't really have a say in the matters of life and death and fate. We don't. The chart will help us understand the fate and accept it and maybe meet it from a more empowered place instead of a more victimized place. But when we're dealing with relationships,
00:23:21
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the free will comes in your presence and in your response and your understanding of of who you are and how you care for your own needs and how you show up for yourself. So if you're neglecting yourself and neglecting things in your chart, that'll play out in a relationship. So it to me, you know there's there's psychological like issues that I think need to be addressed, but also when certain patterns are present with another person,
00:23:47
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I just think that really staying curious and objective like, okay, wow, this person is bringing this up in me. How do I deal with it? Do I want this experience in relationships? I just think that there are, you can look at charts and you can say this indicates that this indicates that, but sometimes you just have to like put it to the test and explore it and really just like make the decision in your gut and not on the chart. You know what I mean? You have to like do a combination of how does it sit with me?
00:24:15
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Do I like being challenged to grow or is this too stressful for me? It's just a very multi layered issue that I don't like to oversimplify. I hope that answers that. Yeah, that was great. Thank you. Wow. Yeah. Well, I know, um, you know, Sarah, you and I have done synastry charts with certain people on and different people in my life and things like that. And I've learned.
00:24:35
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I've learned kind of, and you're right, the more you know yourself, the better it is because you're like, oh, that's not gonna work with me at all. And you could start to see it. but One thing to add, you could really start to see how it plays out. And um even some things with people where it might be a little bit difficult, like you said, you gotta take that leap of faith and try things and see what happens there too. But the one great thing that you're saying, you once you know yourself and you know your chart very well or start to become very familiar, you will see how,
00:25:03
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you know, we're not getting along because of this. And it's not, it's usually has a lot to do with communication, has a lot to do with expression, different, what each individual is working on. And that might be the conflict within it. But like she's saying, you can meet people that try to defy that energy. And I'm one of those people I'd like to take challenges on too. So it must be the Virgo in us. And think about like, so what I found is like the more I know my chart,
00:25:32
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the better I am at fielding and screening for compatibility, right? Like, so when I asked someone's birthday, I know exactly where their son is, and I know what it's doing in my chart, you know, and then I have this notion, and then my brain goes on like, Okay, I know what's happening in my chart, like, you know, that Gemini sun is in my eighth house, and doing this and that and I'm like okay cool that's information that I'm gonna just you know keep on the shelf and then I try not to lead with astrology like okay I know my chart I had this information now I'm gonna set that aside and let the person show me who they are and I'm gonna stay open and curious and I'm just gonna gather information based on like
00:26:10
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what's what the inner changes. And then no, I agree. I've done that too. it's it's Since working with you, I've started to see, oh, well, there's conflict here, but it doesn't mean I have to approach that conflict right away. It's how do you want to work through it or do you want to work through it? That's more the better question. and What's the experience of it? Like, can I is this yeah like in the end, like the chart will give you information and that's good. And then you kind of just digest it and then explore what the person is showing you and what you're experiencing in yourself. And then to me astrology, it informs and empowers our choices instead of, instead of being, you know, it doesn't really make or break the people we choose. It just informs and empowers our ability to understand and choose better for ourselves. You know? True. True. Very true. What's the difference between stelliums and, um,
00:27:08
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and how they're lumped in certain houses. Like, does that make a difference? Like, when you have a whole bunch of planets in one house and a certain stellium of a sign versus nothing in a house. Oh, OK. So a stellium. I don't know if I convey that clear. I think so. I think I understand. So a stellium, my astrologers will define this differently. And i have I'm so Mercury and Libra. there It's not even about right and wrong, like the way people apply and practice their craft is so vast. Like music is so vast. Like no one's in the business of arguing the right or wrong way to play music. So there's really no right or wrong way to do astrology. Everyone has their own style of practice and craft. And so in terms of... Okay, so how do I...
00:27:59
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Yeah, like for instance, I have nothing in the fifth house, but in my fifth house is Aquarius. Does that mean nothing influences me? Or is it I mean, I know you would look at the transits of things. So astrologers, some astrologers think that a stellium can be four planets or more. I personally think it's three. If you have three planets within 10 degrees of each other, that to me is a stellium. Like, and I'm like, so all three, there needs to be less than 10 degrees apart between each of them. Like if you have three planets in a sign, one of them's at three degrees, one of them's at like 15, and one of them's at like 29. It's like, eh, I don't know if that's a stellium because the distance between the planets is wide. But some astrologers might say that's a stellium, but if you have like, like here, I'm gonna pull up Danny's chart right now. So i has like. Yes, let's do it. Oh no. Okay, so yeah, Danny's got stelliums. It looks like it.
00:28:57
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Okay. So she's still young. You've got more than one, Danny. So let's see. Venus is at five. Sag. Where's mercury? Mercury's at 22. So that's kind of wide. Um, and then Mars is at 26. So I don't even know if she really has a stellium and sag because Venus is kind of far away from the mercury and the Mars. Um, so like you really just want In order for me to qualify as a stellium, the three planets need to be like in close proximity to each other. The closer, like the tighter it is, the more like how the stellium is. And it doesn't even matter. It can straddle two houses. To me, the stellium isn't about the house placement. It's about the exact degree placement and how close they are to each other. So if you would have it in Capricorn because of that 12 degree, 13
00:29:48
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13, 16 degree on right call me at Maya. I la thought I was going to break free of this. We just post your chart in the show notes and then everyone can talk. That's, I mean, we definitely have a capital for in Stallium. Like for sure. Sun, moon and Uranus. That is tight. Are you kidding me? Moon at 12 caps on at 13 and Uranus 13.
00:30:13
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That's a hardcore stuff. Pack it, Sarah. Unpack it. Don't unpack it. I mean, girl, you are not a typical Capricorn. You're just not. Like you probably... Oh, wow. Your hearts go up and you're probably like, you know, because Capricorn is like, is ruled by Saturn and Saturn is very structured, very disciplined. It's all about delayed gratification and hard work. You know, you do the hard work now, you get the rewards later.
00:30:40
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and Saturn and Capricorn is all about status, accomplishment, you know playing by the rules, but like Uranus doesn't do that. Uranus doesn't play by the rules. Uranus flips it all upside down, does it its own way, brings some truth to awaken and shakes shit up. and like throw a know like uranus is like ah said is how Uranus is an awakener and a destabilizer. Capricorn is all about stability and Uranus is not. And so like you have a sun moon in Capricorn with Uranus, I mean you are just not a typical Capricorn. I'm with Gemini there. You know like Capricorn makes plans, owns their own business, like they're just extremely boss. But Uranus is very like innovative and unpredictable and quirky and
00:31:31
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they are, they don't like to conform. They don't like to play by the rules. Uranus makes their own rules. Uranus is their own authority. They think for themselves. Capricorn doesn't, Capricorn answers to the authority of society and an external authority. Whereas Uranus has its own authority. And so the issue of how you respond to authority and appreciate with authority in your life is not very Capricornian. And so it's like, yeah, so like that's, you know,
00:31:58
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That's funny. It's yeah. I mean, I look at your chart and I'm like, wow, this person isn't going to resonate with like the Sun sign Capricorn horoscopes that they're reading in the newspaper because they don't fit into that. It's good to know. I mean, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. That was just people like my off tent, like, you know, so like, so you don't have a sad stallion, in my opinion, because you got a conjunction and sadge, but that third planet is too far away from the conjunction. The conjunction is when two planets are really close together.
00:32:26
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So stellium is when you have three planets in a tight conjunction, like they're all holding hands together, but you definitely have a capricorn stellium. Okay. And so in terms of empty houses, sorry, I'm like still a morning brain. I was like, what did you ask me? It's okay. It's okay. And Danny, to answer, I agree because you're very much as a nurse, you're very holistic in your approach and very non-traditional in your approach to nursing in the medical field. So it's like, You do kind of go against the grain, so I think there's confirmation there. and Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. I was like, ooh, she got that. Yeah, it's not a conforming Capricorn by any means. Oh my goodness. You do have really strong cap qualities, but it really, I feel like it it is expressed in maybe the non-traditional ways.
00:33:15
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Oh, you're meant to be a Capricorn that like shakes up the whole system and like probably rips the foundation out from underneath the system.
00:33:25
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Represent. Well, you you know, Capricorn is really about traditions and doing things the way they were done in the past. but you don't do things the way they were done in the past and you don't, Capricorn will say, well, this is how we've always done in the past and this is how we do it and Capricorn doesn't question it. Uranus does. Uranus is like, why do we do this? Because we've always done it this way. How come we're not questioning it? How come we're not doing it differently? Like you, you're here to show people that the way things were done in the past need to be done differently now.
00:33:57
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which is not very good for you. Interesting. And then I want to answer Jamie's question about empty houses. So you can have an empty house with no planets there, but on that house cusp is a sign, right? So whatever sign is on that cusp is ruled by a planet. So you want it, so like your fifth house, let me put your chart real quick. It's Aquarius, yeah. So Uranus would rule that planet, am I correct? Also Saturn. So Saturn is a traditional ruler.
00:34:25
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and Uranus is the modern ruler. So if we wanna understand your fifth house, we are looking to look and see what Saturn and Uranus is doing in your chart because that's what your fifth house is answering to. So even if there is an empty house, whenever sign is there, you go to the ruler of that sign and that'll give you a key about that house. So Uranus has conjunct your moon, right? Yeah, you got Uranus moon conjunction. like I'm pretty positive. I remember that about your chart. Uranus at zero, moon is at seven, yeah.
00:34:55
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you know So you know the moon also points to like your childhood and your home life growing up, and Uranus is all about excitement. And so a Uranus moon conjunction with Aquarius in the Fifth House tells me that like you might have had a fun childhood or like a fun connection with your mom. you know Things might have been kind of exciting. and I did. My mom was wonderful. I can. I it did have a great mother. Yeah. So like some people, sometimes with the Uranus moon, it it would be like, it's interesting, you know, and I'm always really careful about this. Like Uranus moon sometimes means that the mom has mental health issues. She could be emotionally unstable. And that's not true for you. You're an exception to that. It's different for you. But because the ruler of that year, because the Uranus rules that fifth house and the fifth house is our fun,
00:35:45
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It's where we play. It's where we're creative. It's where we feel young. It's where we flirt. It's like silly. It's goofy. It's lighthearted. And so that might be a reason why that Uranus mood conjunction isn't really a mental health issue in your mom for you.
00:36:02
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You know, it's like, it's unique. So a lot of indicators in a chart might tell me a story, but I have to check myself and say, okay, this, this could indicate that this could indicate that, but like your story is the thing that you're the expert in. So you tell me I'm never the expert in the chart. You're the expert. You're living this chart. You've been doing this chart your whole life. So I've read based on what I've read.
00:36:26
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I might see this, but you tell me. So I always put myself in the position of curiosity and the client as the expert. No, I think that's wise. I mean, you know, that's like when I read clients that it's free will what they want to do. I can give them options and I could guide them and give them directions of what spirit and relaying spirit. But like I said, it's ultimately their choice what they want to do with it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I hope that answers your question. I would totally answer my question.
00:36:53
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And my mother, I remember writing a college paper and I was like, my mother is like an entertainment center. She was like, oh my God, she was so entertaining my mom as a kid. Right side of Uranus is exciting. Uranus is, and if you like excitement, then Uranus is a great time. You know, like Uranus, what it does as a planet, I mean, like, if you understand the way it moves,
00:37:15
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in the solar system, it sits on its side, its orbit is weird, it just doesn't operate and the way all the other planets do, it does its own thing. And it answers to its own laws, its own rules, like its own
00:37:36
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And so what Uranus does is as a planet, it awakens you and it brings a truth of awakening. And once Uranus does that, there's no going back to the way things were. And so as a result, it can destabilize you and it's, it can be volatile and unpredictable. And so if you're someone who craves stability, you know, and if you don't do well with change, then you're not going to experience Uranus in a positive way, right? But like, like mutable signs, like, like Virgo, Sag,
00:38:11
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Pisces, and Gemini. like So you know those those signs will thrive on change and do well with change. So the way they experience Uranus could be fun. And so like planets are what they are, right? But you want to assume that a person has experienced that planet in a certain way. You kind of want to understand what's their experience of this energy. you know Because there's there's an energy and then there's an experience of it. And they're kind of distinct from each other, right?
00:38:38
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Exactly. And you know, Sarah, to add to like that excitement that you're talking about, i you are right. like Once I wake up to something, I can't go back to who who I was. And it kind of shifts my whole perspective of my life and direction of my life. Yeah, and you have to. And I think that's where you're saying the moon is so deep that it's like our inner child. It's like, oh, I know what to do now. And this is what I'm going to do. And it's like, what I knew before doesn't matter. This is where I need to go now. Oh, yeah. And you have to kind of restabilize yourself and integrate.
00:39:08
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the new world that you're living in now based on this new truth. So Uranus is exciting and it awakens you, but it's also not stable. And so some people have a really fun experience and a positive experience that other people feel like it's very like unsettling for them. And so like in the end, I'm like, I know what this planet does. How are you doing with that? Right, right, right. Which is a good question. like If you have those placements, you should ask yourself.
00:39:37
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Whereas, so that's where my psychology background comes in, right? As an astrologer, can you predict health issues or things with health that will come up during a person's lifetime? Such a good question. So this is where I feel like being a responsible astrologer is important. There is such a field as medical astrology. It's actually really incredible. Like medical astrology is its own way. It's its own framework for charts.
00:40:05
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And I'm not an expert in medical astrology. And so I don't really, I'm super careful about the business of prediction. Um, okay. Because self-fulfilling prophecy is real for people. If the power of belief is so strong, if you plan a seed, that person moves a lot in the world and like, and bear its fruits, right? And so as an astrologer, I have this power to influence and shape people with this information. And so I try, I,
00:40:34
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really like set the intention and pray to be as cautious and conscious as I can with the power because um like with health issues if I wanted to understand health issues I would look to the sixth house um you know and even Neptune can indicate struggles with health but because i don't I'm not comfortable in my expertise with it I won't get too close to it and if someone really has major health concerns I would just I think ethically and responsibly find a solid medical astrologer that I would refer to. So it is possible to do that. um It would be irresponsible of me to pretend that I know how to do that. No, I respect that. That's great. no I think a lot of people won't even know that that exists. So I think anyone listening who's interested in that can definitely look up medical astrology. oh yeah Yeah, so cool.
00:41:32
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It's really simple. There's so many ways. There's a million frameworks. There's a million ways to cut a slice of pie. And there's a million ways to pull information from a chart. I'll never understand or master them all. What I think was interesting, Sarah, when um when I tore my quadriceps, I texted you that day. And I think talking about Neptune, I think Neptune and a couple other planets were all opposite my son. And you're like, oh, that's why you fell. That's why.
00:41:59
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there and And Neptune was transiting my sixth house, which is why I've had a lot of medical issues that are not foreseen, like nobody's picking up on, like the blood clot that didn't get noticed. Yeah, so Neptune makes it impossible to diagnose. And so when you have Neptune, we have Neptune transits with health difficulties, Neptune will cloud and confuse the diagnosis process and the treatment process.
00:42:23
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And so it slows it down and delays it because there's confusion and there's an inability to understand what's happening. And so that's what's really frustrating with Neptune health issues. Interesting. So Sarah, can I ask what, what is your favorite topic to read for clients? Is it relationship? Is it life purpose? Like I know it's the moon, but, but what is your favorite area? Like Jimmy is dating. He could talk about dating 24 sides.
00:42:50
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I could. I love love. So is your area of expertise? What do you think? Knights love relationship astrology because I spent 10 years obsessing over my own like relationship endeavors. Right. And because I reached because of that journey of discovery and reaching a place of wow, I really love and respect myself and way I experienced compatibility um because I see a lot of other people on the journey of being frustrated,
00:43:19
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and blaming themselves and shaming themselves and I see, you know, so i I see myself in that process and I know how to comfort that past version of myself now. And so it really just like fills my heart to be able to do that for other people. So I think I really do. I also, I'm starting to love the life purpose stuff. I'm starting to fall in love with that more.
00:43:44
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um
00:43:49
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I think my favorite is really just being what a person needs in that moment, whatever that is. Aw. Yeah. That's so beautiful. You're such a good person.
00:44:05
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Like, no wonder you and Jimmy are your friends. You're such a good soul. Well, like I said, sarah Sarah helped me through a lot of trauma and drama and and understanding myself. How did she help me?
00:44:19
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no like i so ah you could tell yeah I've done a lot of work on myself with with Sarah and studying with Sarah. We still have some planets to cover, by the way. But um but yes yeah, I think Sarah is wonderful. And and she's right. you do You do show up when whatever's needed. And you never know. Well, I think it's interesting, not only as a psychic, but you maybe with astrology as well, you never know what's needed.
00:44:44
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You never know what kind of reading you're going to get. You never know what kind of chart you're going to get or what you're going to explore. And you know, Sarah, you and I have talked about this a little bit off the cuff with charts that may not be as compatible but are still kind of working. So, you know, which is interesting because sometimes you get hope out of that and you get, like you said, it's the soul group. So. I think what I love.
00:45:08
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i love I really love going deep with clients and helping them turn a crisis or a painful painful pattern into something workable and hopeful and empowering. and like I like to help people who are really struggling with something painful. I like to be a part of the process of helping them see how it's a growth opportunity.
00:45:33
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because a lot of times when we're like in a painful pattern or process or crisis, we feel like victims. And so I think my favorite thing is to help a person feel less like a victim and feel more like they have the power to shape their experience. And I'd like to help people find their potential to grow instead of, I'd like to help people shift out of frustration and victimization into like growth and empowerment.
00:46:01
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It's really, I mean, I think I really love, I live for that shit actually. I love that shit. Absolutely. You're such a bright light. I love it. I love it. I love this. Jimmy, have her on more often. She's a staple. But you know, Sarah, even with the um with the romance and the frustration and the blocks to add to that,
00:46:20
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I can, you know, my life, I can't get a relationship off the ground to save my life. Like I can't do anything like that. And I can, I can't, I'm like one day wonder, it's just either I get bored or something else happens or I get people to fall short. Not that I'm blaming everyone. You have a lot of things in your chart, you have a lot of quick movement, quick moving placements in your chart. And so you get bored easily and people really need to keep you on your toes and keep you excited and in order to like hold you.
00:46:49
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and and and And like I said, just learning that and learning that it wasn't just, it's me because it's the makeup of me, but it's not just me. Like I said it before, it comes down to awareness. So once I was aware of that, I was like, oh, maybe I could slow down a little bit. Or maybe i maybe it's me being needy, needy in the sense of attention or, you know, how do you how do you work through all that? But I've learned that through you yeah and your sessions.
00:47:15
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Yeah, you can kind of separate like where do I end and where does the other begin? And it allowed me a great sense of compassion because for years, especially trying to date and you know, I do like to date a lot and I am a lover.
00:47:30
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But like I said, it's it's trying to get that off the ground that's been so difficult. And now at almost 50, I'm kind of stepping into myself with, I'm like, oh, it's not a big deal. I ought to work itself out. Either it works or it doesn't. And if I wanted to work, I got to work at it and understand myself and and try to understand that the person.
00:47:48
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yeah I mean you your chart so you know with Aries in your seventh house and Mars and Gemini and the Uranus moon conjunction those all that combination would make it a challenge to build a relationship that's gonna stand the test of time it's gonna have that longevity that you're craving because Aries is very much an initiator and kind of gets things started but isn't really a sustainer and Gemini is always on the move and Uranus is always the Wanting the next exciting awakening thing to keep things and so because there's so much movement in Between your seventh house and your Mars in your moon. There's so much quickness. There's a craving for quickness and movement and so your tent because you want to build a Connection or a partner, you know, if you're looking to build a partnership that's going to withstand time It's important to understand
00:48:46
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that those parts of you that are called in to build those are actually creating quick movement and like and fast pace, right? And so it's just, I think it's important to understand that when you're china when you're trying to create an outcome and these parts of you are working against it,
00:49:10
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you know, how do you intervene and how what do you do with that and how do you shift that, right? So it's not about blame or fault or once again or shame. It's just like, well, this is what I want, but this is also a part of me that needs a certain right. But these are also parts of me that have different needs that conflict with what I want. So what do you do with it? And so it puts it back in your court and it puts it back on your plate and it puts the work on you, right?
00:49:31
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So it's not corrected. And even when I went to other psychics, they would tell me I was scattered and erratic. And I go through people like water that I'm vain, that I'm this. That's blaming. Yes. and of gi talent Instead of like offering you, like, what what can use you do to work with that? Like, let's talk about the part of you that wants to build something and let's talk about the part of you that, you know, like, like, how do we build a bridge between all this? Right. Like, let's do the work. Let's not just like point a finger and talk shit and move on. That doesn't help. Right.
00:50:01
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No, I agree. And even like I said, when I've ah when I've told people they're external, I try to explain how they're being external. They might not be consciously aware of it. So trying to bring it to attention. Sarah, have you ever thought of writing a book all the time?
00:50:16
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ah Any action behind that?
00:50:21
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ah no it's I'm on the brink. I'm on the cusp of it. It's been in my heart and it's been real and it's been calling and calling me. So yes, it's in the conception stages. I could tell. I could tell. Oh my gosh. I would buy it. I think a lot of people are doing right now.
00:50:41
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Yeah, I think a lot of people would like just how you just described the basics and you went so in depth like I just learned so much just from the last 45 minutes. I think a book will be amazing. Yeah, thanks. You know, there's there's astrology and you know, but then there's really there's like our potential and desire to do something with it. Right. So like I just On one hand, you know, fate reigns. Fate is really what's happening here. But like we have so much power as creators to decide what we do with all of this. And so I think that being curious and asking ourselves, what do we want to do? What can we do with this? You know, it just.
00:51:27
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We can, there's a million ways to do our chart and to work with things and to shift things. And so I just think that it opens up more possibility. I like the knowledge to open up more space and potential for possibility instead of close us off and make us feel trapped. Like, Oh, we're screwed. This is it. That's like not my astrology. That's not the way I use it.
00:51:48
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yeah And use astrology to open doors, not trap people, you know? so We might have to do a whole segment of just like astrology one-on-one with Sarah, but if someone, you know, cause I think the chart can be really intimidating for people when you first pull it up.
00:52:01
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and so I know you went over the sun, moon rising, which was great. I think even if people just started there to kind of digest that information. And then with the logical next step be, okay, let's learn about the different planets and the houses and kind of go go through that. Okay. and It's really funny though. Like to me, that's really the best place to begin in order to not intimidate or Obama person.
00:52:29
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But ultimately, I'm all about the aspects. So like what are the planets doing with each other? Because the the planet represents each planet represents like ah a part or a function in our personality that serves a purpose. And so all those parts, how are they dancing together? know That really paints the picture of our inner conflict and our inner strength. and it's like i forget I forget Jimmy, you know when you go like in the Simpsons how you go to a town meeting in Springfield and you have all these crazy characters that are all like that's kind of what a person is like inside there's like a town meeting and there's all these different parts you know there's the inner child there's like the inner you know there's the professional and there's the social you know there's our social self which is Venus and there's like
00:53:16
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you know, Venus is how we attract and Mars is how we go after what we want. So Mars is how we fight. And so there's the fighter in us, the child, the attractor, there's all these parts of us, right? Well, how are they relating to each other inside of me? Are they and they working together? Are they working against each other? Because how that's happening here will play out here in the outside world. So like, I really go to those aspects, because that tells me how the internal reality of a person is, is forming in their external reality, right? And I think that's wise because like I said, having worked under you now for a few years and um getting charts read, transit, solar returns, compatibility and things like that. When you are aware of what's being hit or lit up in your chart by somebody or something or a transit even, you can kind of um
00:54:09
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make a choice of how you want to react to it. And it I think, you know, I always say that astrology and the planets are our guides. they They rule us, but they don't rule us. We rule us. And I think so many people are under the guise that, oh my God, Mercury is in retrograde. So that's horrible. I'm like, well, most of the other planets go in retrograde too, but we don't talk about them. You know, but like I said, when you become aware of what's going on in not only your natal chart, your transits, the aspects like Sarah's saying, you really can find a good balance for yourself. And I think that's what's helping me evolve and make better choices, especially like I said, my dating life is horrific. So it's kind of like, I'm i'm getting better with age. I'm aging like fine wine, as Maya would tell me, based on my human design. So I think, like I said, to become aware of those
00:55:02
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Like you said, how they're bouncing off and what each one represents does help people choose better in their life and and become more comfortable with yourself. you know I used to dislike certain aspects, like I don't like my Neptune placement. It's in the third house, so I never feel like I'm a part of a community. I have issues related to siblings and communication sometimes getting mixed up. But as I know more about it, I'm a little bit more balanced with it. And I'm like, oh, it's not so bad. you know That's an area where I need to work on more.
00:55:31
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Yeah, and so for me, the heart of the matter is always power. And I'm always, and probably because I have strong Scorpio placements in my chart, I'm always very much, I'm paying very close attention, where is the power in this moment?
00:55:44
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is the person giving their power away in a healthy way or an unhealthy way. We don't give our power to astrology. Astrology gives power to us. And I'm always making sure that power is moving in the right direction towards the right destination. If it's moving in the wrong direction towards the wrong like on destination, I always make it a point and like redirect it. you know The power's back to you. Everything is here to empower you. We're not handing our power off. We're taking it back. And so that's always like the bottom line framework that I'm using when I read So what you're saying is mecury Mercury, when Mercury goes retrograde, it doesn't really affect us other than inspiring us to change every flight. Which makes it an interesting action when I'm glad you brought this up. So my understanding of retrograde has shifted a little bit because what is happening with retrograde is that a planet is appearing closer to the Earth, which means that it's larger.
00:56:39
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Right. And so like when a planet appears close, it's an illusion, but it's appearing larger and and its closeness. And so we're looking at proximity, right? So like any planet, so mercury retrograde means that mercury issues are large and proximate and interface. That's it. You know what I mean? And then whatever other stories go on with that.
00:57:03
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We're like meaning makers, right? We tell ourselves these stories and then we go out in the world and live them. And I just feel like it's super important for us to pay attention to what stories we're telling ourselves and how we're living them. You know, so are we like, are we penciling in our debt are we like penciling in our outcomes and then unconsciously creating them I'm just always really careful with mercury retrograde like for sure you definitely I'm always cautious obviously you know I'm not gonna buy a new car or like sign a contract or start anything major during a retrograde but sometimes there's an exception to that sometimes something will ripen and it'll be perfect and it's doing a retrograde but like I bought a car doing a retrograde and
00:57:42
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I've done things that astrologers shouldn't do or don't do. Like, I'm defying astrology in my own way. You're just double-checking the fine print when you do. Well, the reason why I bought the card or your retrograde was because it was it was being sold to me by friends that I met during a retrograde. So that put the retrograde signature on the transaction. And so I say with astrology, like, it's not black and white, cut and dry. It's really dynamic. And it's really, it's a little bit more complex than we give it credit for. And we kind of have to really just keep staying open and curious.
00:58:12
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and be willing to be wrong and be willing to be proven wrong. right I agree because I am ah made settlement during a retrograde on my house. So it was a completely different thing. It's like it came back around.
00:58:23
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However, when I rented the apartment prior, I rented during a retrograde. So things I think things begin and end in a retrograde. I agree. I think that cycles can totally begin and end during a retrograde. And so normally I would have been like, oh, it's retrograde, not buying this car. um But I think that like the person who sold me the car had a prominent retrograde placement in this chart. And then the friends who sold me the car I met during a retrograde.
00:58:47
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And over time, the friendship showed to be pretty solid and reliable and and trustworthy. And so I bought this car during a retrograde and it's been an incredible car. And so like I say, don't do this during a retrograde. And I'm like, yeah, but I did it. But I was also really like, i you know, but I also, it's really, I really think that astrology is about the art of paying attention. So is the tarot cards. You know, these are all tools that help us pay closer attention to things, but in the end,
00:59:18
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the way that we create meaning and attach meaning to our experiences is where the power is and how it how it shows itself. And so being aware on that level of consciousness of assigning power and meaning to our experiences is really what it's all about. I thought it, this is completely random and I apologize, but I've had a question since they first talked about Uranus. Yeah. I'm gonna bring it back there. Yeah. So we talked about how Uranus I liked your description about how it doesn't do things the you know conventional way. I didn't know about the orbit and how it exists and in the physical world as well. yeah So would you say that it wherever Uranus, whatever house it's in, you might experience unexpected or just things not going the way you would, quote unquote, conventionally assume it would? They call Uranus the wild child.
01:00:11
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Right. So just think about like a wild child archetype and then put it in that area of your life. So, okay. So I have Uranus in the first house and the first house is essentially like your personality and the impression you leave on the world and the people that you meet. Right. And so like ah people, I, people would describe me as somewhat wild, I would say. Um, so like Uranus in the first house, they, I'm one astrologer who I love, who's my mentor, Rick Levine.
01:00:41
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says that usually people who have Uranus rising in the first house, those people end up moving far away from home. I'm like three hours, I'm like three different time zones away from where I started. A lot of people I know who have Uranus rising have left and gone really far from home. um Uranus in the seventh house, on the other hand, right, like that's the house of soulmates and partnerships, you know, someone who has that placement might might end up dating really weird people. They might have weird friends. They might attract weird people into their lives. Just think about like a wild child archetype. Danny's not checking that right now. Don't worry, Danny. It's not. It's not in your seventh house. Your Uranus is actually in your eighth house. They did just see me. I was like, wow. Her facial expression was like, wait a minute.
01:01:24
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and Jimmy's, yours is in your second second house, I think. Yeah, mine's in my second, conjunct my moon. So the one thing I know, and it maybe you know some different information Sarah, is people tell me I'm i'm an emotional loose cannon. Like I'll just say whatever I think, whatever I feel and not care. yeah that Second house and astrology points to our resources, our paycheck, our physical bodies, our self-worth. And essentially my understanding in second house is
01:01:57
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the way we attract resources into our lives as a direct reflection of our own self worth, right? And so with Uranus in the second house, Uranus isn't, your second house is your income. It's your paycheck and the way that you generate that, those resources for you. And so Uranus isn't stable. Uranus tells me that like you have a good income, but it's not predictable and it's not a stable income and it's very small. No, it's true. That's true. You are right. So that's a total entrepreneur style where you're, it would fluctuate every single one. What does Neptune in general represent? Neptune as a planet,
01:02:34
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is transcendence, right? So like Neptune rules film, right? So when you watch a movie, you're essentially being, Neptune is another reality. Neptune is not this material reality that we're in. Neptune is not, yes, so Neptune is where is our dream space. It's our fantasy life. It's film, it's art, it's everything that takes us out of this reality into another reality. And so Neptune is the oneness, the rapture, the transcendence,
01:03:04
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It's the potion. It's drinking the potion. It's being inebriated. you know It's idealism. It's love. Neptune is tricky. It's the visionary. So Neptune is where if you have a vision and you want to create something, it starts with Neptune. And then if you really want to give it form and structure, you go to Saturn, right?
01:03:25
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Neptune is the vision and the dream of something that can be of something that you might want to create, right? Neptune is the song that you hear, right? But like, can you write that, do you have the ability to translate that song into written, and can you write music and translate that song you're hearing into written music? Can you play the instruments to carry out, you know what I mean? So Neptune is where the vision and like the download and the channeling happens. I hope that makes sense.
01:03:56
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Yeah, no, I've actually never heard it explained like that. So I think we're definitely going to have to do, Sarah, it might be, I don't know if it'd be boring for you, but astrology one-on-one for people listening going, okay, this planet is this. Unless you want to just save it for your book and then we'll just buy it and learn from you there. No, let's do it. Yeah, we couldn't have you on like once a month or something because it's fascinating.
01:04:19
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I will tell you Sarah, I fucking hate my Neptune transit through my sixth house. It's almost out and I can't wait till it's out. I've hated this transit. Hated it. As you say to us Jimmy, but what did you learn?
01:04:36
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oh yes i have learned i have learned a lot but i've hated it it's been painful i can't wait for it to leave but now i'm scared but now i'm scared because it's getting ready to hit my seventh house and that could be that's talk about frightening
01:04:53
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You know, Neptune in the seventh house is actually really tricky, right? So like all the Virgo risings right now with Neptune and Pisces, all the people with Virgo rising have had Neptune transiting their seventh house forever. And that is like the issue of like projection and love and like the issue of meeting someone of your dreams and creating these fantasies of a person and projecting those fantasies onto a person and then realizing later on that they were nothing along the same vein as the fantasies you projected on. You know,
01:05:23
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projecting fantasy onto a person and then removing those projections and not being able to see your friends or your partners or your co-workers or all those people clearly and really blurring boundaries and like I had a I have a close friend who has Virgo rising and She's really been that Neptune in her seventh house. I mean she's shared a lot of her resources and she's had a potential partners come and go in her life and there's just been a lot of boundaries blurred and a lot of confusion and it's it's definitely it's not easy but I think that knowing how Neptune works and understanding how boundaries can be blurred and fantasies and projections can create a cloudy confusion and block your clarity. The name of the game with Neptune is
01:06:13
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is how to operate without clarity and what do you need to do to reclaim that clarity is like the ultimate burning like core issue of all of it. Thank you. I'm just a little more scared now.
01:06:30
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It's just because it's just starting to hit my seventh house and I'm like, oh. Well, she's going to tell you how to navigate that. Or it sounds like how like how you get clarity. But I will tell you, maybe, Sarah, knowing my history, I could use a little cloudiness, a little dream-like stuff and some fun. Do you always color glasses? Yeah, just a little bit, because I have Aries in that house, and it's like... That's That's tough. I think that with Neptune, the best thing you can do is be patient and give something time.
01:07:05
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With Neptune, don't rush into anything. you know like Because Neptune, well, ah to me, it's like ine it's like you're inebriated on Neptune. right And so like you're like looking at someone through the eyes of it. You're drunk looking at someone. And you really want to give yourself time to sober up so you can see someone sober. And with Neptune, you want to give yourself time to sober up.
01:07:29
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before you get too involved, and that's the real thing. Well, I will say um it's making me look at my personal relationships a lot slower. I will say that I am kind of in a slow mode, i'm not which is unusual for me, because i usually that Aries energy in that house is like, let's get it done. Let's get it quick. Let's figure it out. And now I'm kind of like, oh, no. I don't know if this is for me. I don't know if I'm going to do that, or if this is what I really, truly want. like I'm trying, I think,
01:07:54
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That could be the blessing in it. If I could stay in this mindset, but God knows I got son in the 12th house. so I'll get lost somewhere down a black hole. And, um, how long is net the, how long is Neptune's transit through a house? It's long. Um, because Neptune is 164 years cycle. Um, we'll never live to experience a full Neptune cycle in our chart. So Uranus is an 84 year cycle. If we're lucky.
01:08:21
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We'll live long enough to experience Uranus go through our entire chart and return to the place that was where we were born. We'll never experience a Neptune return. So Neptune at most might go through half of your chart. Um, so you're looking at like at least 10 years in a house, maybe 15. It's okay to me. Neptune's about to hit my second house. So Sarah and I talked about reading. Yep. So that's fun. I'll coach you. Don't worry. I'll be okay. yeah where's so Where's, where's your Neptune hitting?
01:08:51
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<unk>ing when I don't know. That's probably better. I don't know.
01:08:57
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Where is it hitting my honestly? Yeah, I don't know. I haven't. I haven't. I would have to look up your, your choice. Let me see if I could do it. That's so funny. It's such a Neptuneian answer. Keep me in the dark. Don't put. Well, we, maybe we will leave this with, okay. So Jimmy with Neptune hitting his seventh house soon. What would your word of wisdom be for him?
01:09:21
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to navigate that. I would say really try to play with fantasy. um Really balance fantasy with reality. Do your best to balance the potential of a dream becoming real, but don't lose touch with what's real for the sake of the dream.
01:09:42
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No, I know what you mean. Yeah. Don't get caught lost in the dream. Get lost. Find the middle ground. but i Find the balance between the dream and the reality. And I would say work on bringing the dream into reality instead of abandoning reality for the dream. That makes sense. Understood. And how do I know where it's hitting? I'm trying to look it up for you right now. Pisces. Right. And so you started with Neptune. It looks like very late Capricorn.
01:10:10
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Um, so that's your 10th house. It's been in your 10th house for a while. Oh, it's gonna go into your 11th house. You know, let's leave. It's gonna be your 10th house for a little bit longer. Um, I mean, Neptune. Okay. So I had, I had a former mentor that would call Neptune the planet of illusion, confusion, and delusion. And so I'm not saying that we're screwed at the mercy of these forces.
01:10:39
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I would say it calls for closer examination into the issues of delusion, right? Like what beliefs are we subscribing to that we're not aware of, that we're not questioning that needs to be questioned, right? Delusions. Yeah. And I don't know, maybe look the confusion dead in the eye and try to flush it out. Sometimes, sometimes with confusion, we kind of just we'll kind of just shove in the closet somewhere or we'll just say, oh, I'm like for our hands up and just ignore it. Right. Um, but confusion really calls for attention, um, and patience and curiosity. So I think that like, if if anything astrology in these placements really show us where our attention needs to go and what's calling for our attention. That makes sense. Um, quick question. Yeah. is that Are there any boring planets?
01:11:33
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Are there any boring placement planets? are there any Because I will say my Venus in the 11th house I think is the most boring placement I could possibly ever have for a Venus. I swear to God, I don't get anything out of that. I'm like, no. Of course someone with your chart would ask that question.
01:11:53
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you know
01:11:56
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What's boring so I can stay away from it? Like being bored your chart has such low tolerance for boredom, you know, so it's really I do I do I gotta do something. Yeah It's like I don't know if there's an answer that question because it's it's based on your chart, you know, it's like I Because I will tell you, I don't know i don't dislike my Venus in the live at the house. I think it's good because it's friendships and groups and things. But sometimes I'm just like, everybody else's Venus is all exciting. mine's just The fact that it's in Leo is exciting. But everything else about that house placement is just shit to me. I'm just like, ah I don't want to be in a group. I don't want to be in an organization. I could care less about politics and roundabout friends. Like I'm like, it's hell.
01:12:43
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Oh wait, is this my Uranus acting up on my moon?
01:12:48
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And I feel like like Venus and Leo in the 11th house is like, it's it's a happy Venus for sure. And here's the thing with 11th house and groups, like the 11th house, yes, they say it's friendship and it's the house of tribes, but I have a book by Howard Sesportis, I don't know if I say his last name right, he's a Brit. He died young, but he was such an incredible astrologer. And so ultimately, he helped me understand the 11th house. He says, it's really the house of hopes, wishes and dreams. And hopes, wishes and dreams really point to something larger than us, right? And so when we decide to become a part of a group or join in an organization, whatever, what we're really doing is having communion with something bigger than ourselves in order to pull ourselves outside of ourselves. And so in the 11th house, we're not looking at people, organizations. We're looking at what hope, wish, and dream in our life.
01:13:43
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is pulling us outside of ourselves and having to be a part of something bigger than ourselves to fulfill a hope-wisher dream. That's a beautiful perspective because that's what I would like to do with people. Like I like want people to be bigger than what they are and the stage and the tarot cards and the crystals. I want them to find out who they are and really contribute to the planet and to the world and their communities. Yeah. so wait So what's advice for Maya?
01:14:08
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Yes. For Uranus. Was it Uranus? Neptune. Neptune. So you got to seal the holes in your money container. Neptune will poke holes in your money container. And I know this because I was born with it and I have to live with Neptune my second house my whole life. And so what happens is because Neptune is an idealist planet and we have an ideal and it's something that will, Neptune allows us to transcend all the, you know, and transcendence can kind of border along the lines of abandoning ourselves. Neptune, we kind of abandon ourselves in one way or another. Because we're transcending, we're also kind of abandoning. So it's a little tricky. And like you want to just, with Neptune, you've got to really make sure that you're staying true to your self-worth. Because what I used to do was like I'd bust my ass, I'd save money, and then I'd get into a relationship. And I would just pour all my money into a relationship container. And then it would fail. And then I'd be bankrupt. And then I'd have to start over again. And so with Neptune in the second house,
01:15:06
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We're pouring our resources into our ideals, but then you got to watch out. You don't want to leave yourself bankrupt. Put together like a savings account, put together, I would say set it, put money somewhere where it won't drain. Like put a little yeah something like that. Like, I don't know, like a ah college founder, something, some sort of money container that won't leak. That makes sense. Yeah. Just need more structure around, around the second house, maybe. and But Neptune is going to really, you're going to, your spending is going to be based on your ideas. Just keep an eye on those ideals. Well, Sarah, I think we have just gathered so much information in a short period of time. And we're super excited if you will officially be our resident astrologer on this podcast. Um, as you can tell, we're all your number one fans.
01:15:56
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Jimmy, thank you for bringing this beautiful human into our lives. And I think our listeners will also gain a lot of insight as well. Of course, you know with how layered astrology is, we can't get to everything in one episode. So I'm excited to to dive down and see how you want to structure those future episodes as well. But I definitely And leaving feeling empowered in a lot of ways. I love that you mentioned we should pay attention to our strengths and we can utilize our chart is not something to be afraid of, but something to really highlight our own gifts and different aspects of ourselves and and really fall back in love with those aspects. So I really appreciate your insights and I know Danny and Jimmy did as well.
01:16:37
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I'm sure spirits up there also having a light show, having all this fun. Well, they, they love the education. They love the, you know, when it comes to astrology, they liked it. Sarah, I can tell you this. I know the spirit likes when we use the planets as a guide. And like I said, I think some people get so obsessed. Like I said, there's Mercury, Richard Reeds. This is happening. That's happening.
01:17:02
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And even with our own insecurities and fears, we're all like, it's doom and gloom. And it's not necessarily doom and gloom. It's part of your growth and how you choose to walk walk your path and walk your journey. holy everything And you're explaining it perfectly. And that's the one thing I love about you. You're very um raw, very real.
01:17:22
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very simplistic. You made astrology for me very simple, because a lot of people don't make astrology simple. You know, with the social media and everything, you see things and I often question you, I'm like, I'm confused on this, what does that mean? this My last conference made me realize that it doesn't matter how fluent. First of all, astrology is not a belief system, it's a language. You know, like We all speak, that like all the astrologers here, we all speak this language of the stars, just often to believe you either speak the language or you don't. And so I can become as fluent as possible in this language, but what does that matter if I can't translate it to the for the people who can't speak it? Like that's the real gift, is my ability not to speak the language, but to translate it for people who can't. So I'm so glad that I'm able to translate. I'm gonna keep working at it. I'm gonna keep getting more fluent and translating better and better.
01:18:17
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Sarah, you're amazing. I hope we have you on again. I cannot wait. Oh, we might I love you. Write the book. Write the book. Get started. And I love you. And I'm so grateful. We're friends and you're in my life and you've ah changed my life for the better, knowing you and and just loving you. Yes. Yes. And of course, you don't have to wait till. Yeah. And of course, you don't have to wait till the next episode to hear from Sarah and Sarah Wolf.
01:18:41
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link your information in the show notes if anyone wants to book a reading because obviously it brings a lot of value. Yes. Can bring some depth and understanding for them as well. And and we'll go from there. Of course, thank you so much for everyone that's tuned into this episode and be excited for the future astrology episodes we'll have. Thank you again, Sarah, so much from the bottom of our hearts. Thank you, Jimmy, Danny, and Spirit. And we'll see you all next time. Bye. Bye everyone.