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S2E7: Fear and Trust
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We are back with another episode! Today we are focusing on cultivating self trust, facing internal fears, how to hear our intuition, building trust after difficult events and more.
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00:00:01
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Hey everyone, welcome to Spiritually Desperate with myself, psychic medium, Jimmy Bay, and my co-host, spiritual enthusiast, Danny and Maya. Please join us as we deep dive into the soul, connect with spirit to help answer some of life's challenges.
00:00:15
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We'll be discussing a variety of topics to help guide you and keep you empowered. Let's begin. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Spiritually Desperate. Myself, Jimmy Bay, Psychic Medium, and my co-host, Dani and Maya.
00:00:30
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How are you guys doing? Hi. It feels like it's been a while, but i think that, you know, this year has just been of like that. We're all adapting and going with the flow, and it is always nice, though, to reconnect with good-hearted humans. So happy to be here.
00:00:47
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Dani, how are you? Good, I'm good. Yeah, same. Kind of feeling those energetic shifts and a little bit of chaos, but happy be here. I know it's been quite chaotic. It's been quite chaotic for all of us. We've all been going through some things and that's why there's some intermittent delays in our, in our podcast. And hopefully we'll get back on track with things, but I'm excited about today's episode concerning fear and trust because it's something that we all struggle with.
00:01:15
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And it's something that we can continue to talk about because we can always talk about fear and trust. It's something that ebbs and flows. Yeah, especially when things do feel chaotic.
00:01:26
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How do we trust Jimmy? Now that's a big question. We won't start there. Let's start with as always, because we talk about internal and we've touched upon it before.
00:01:37
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I do find though, a lot of people don't feel like they can trust themselves or their intuition. So what do you think blocks people from trusting themselves or their inner voice?
00:01:49
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I think it's their thoughts and I think it's a lot of, i know it's their thoughts and I rheumatic thoughts and anxieties. And I know it's a lot of outside influences and forces.
00:02:00
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People tend to ask everybody and tell everybody what they're doing and ask them for their advice and opinions. And at times that creates a lot of chaotic energy, static energy to where you can't hear your truest self.
00:02:13
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When you invite too many people in, and I don't want to say the wrong people, but people that are really, um, not the best advisors that don't really encourage, you know, and ultimately i think the biggest thing is no matter who you ask for advice, learning to trust yourself, you have to learn to just do what you want to do and really listen to yourself and listen to what's in alignment with your higher self as well.
00:02:39
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Yeah. It's almost like we should be using people as a soundboard, but not necessarily directing things. But we use we usually use people to give us the answer versus going, okay, i'm hearing ah I'm hearing myself talk this out loud right now, and now I realize what my actual inner voice is.
00:02:57
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does that make sense? That makes total sense. And a lot of times um I believe that people think other people are... have more wisdom and more enlightenment than your own true self. And that's not true.
00:03:12
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ah Wisdom and enlightenment is comes to us when we need it, but it also comes through experience and it also comes through unlocking it. and and digging into it, turning the key to that door and really opening it up within us.
00:03:26
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And the other way you do that is to take some chances and take some risks. So I think what happens is like what clouds that at times is people always think somebody else knows better. I get that a lot as a psychic because people think I have the answers to everything and I don't have the answers to everything.
00:03:40
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I can't answer. I can't tell you what to do. i can advise you what to do and I can give you maybe some scenarios, but I can't tell you what your ultimate choice is. Yeah, I feel like a good guide helps you realize what your next step is or your next choices or your inner voice versus telling you what it is.
00:04:01
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And that is a good misconception to clear up where I think a lot of people really rely on psychics or mediums to always help them make the next step choice versus going, okay, over time saying,
00:04:17
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basically talking to someone that feels like a mirror for me. I'm learning about myself and these are where I need to grow. And this is where maybe I'm having challenges and this is how I want to take the next steps because I'm learning more about myself. But that's a scary thing to do, right? Because then now you have to take account but accountability and responsibility because now you can't blame if something goes wrong, it was someone else's advice or choice. Now it's just you.
00:04:43
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Right. And the biggest thing is I think When it comes to anything challenging, it's just to walk through it. People are so fearful to accept and face what's in front of them.
00:04:54
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And that's how you gain your wisdom and enlightenment. That's how you start to squash fear because you get information. I've said this before, you gather information, and but you also gather that experience. And even if some lessons are repeated, I've said this as well, you're not gonna make the same choices with them.
00:05:11
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But like a lot of times people, they don't, They don't want to choose or they don't like their options of choice. Not all, not everything that happens in our life.
00:05:21
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Like, you know, um we like our options. Like, you know, unfortunately, recently i had to put chunk down. And in that I had two choices. I could keep them alive for two weeks on medicine, or I could choose to let them go back into spirit.
00:05:37
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And I chose to go back into spirit and neither one was a right or wrong choice, but neither one was an easy choice. And I think the reason people ask anyone, their family, their friends, as they're seeking the easiest answer, what and i write to what you were saying also is to use people as sounding boards. It's good because.
00:05:58
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A sounding boards when you're venting some of your friends, some of your family, psychics, loved ones, whoever co-workers, whatever they can all maybe spin it in a different light than what you're used to.
00:06:10
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And that may bring some enlightenment and wisdom around it to some truth around it and help you. But if that person is chaotic and erratic, not reliable, not dependable, be mindful of who you're asking if advice from, you know,
00:06:26
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Would you ask somebody that has a horrible love life about your love life? You know, or the, even if they're should say horrible, i don't like that word. if they're, you know, if they're not seasoned in love, would you ask them about that?
00:06:40
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You know, it's, it's, you gotta find your own way sometimes. Yeah. And I think this is where it's really important because I think some people also only go to the people that they know are going to tell them what they want to hear.
00:06:52
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And you have to remember like with parents and family members, They're coming at it from a different perspective and they're also going with what they know. They don't always have the correct answers for yourself. So a lot of it, and you know, they have this concept ah in spirituality that's like unlearn what you learned.
00:07:09
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And I agree somewhat with that, but my, ah my mindset is more so be a free thinker with any choice that you're making. Think freely. You don't have to think like everybody else, you know, and I don't think you have to unlearn anything. I think that's nonsense because I don't think you can unlearn things, although you can change the way you respond to things and information.
00:07:33
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Dani, how's your intuition these days?
00:07:37
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Shit. Is it though? Because I feel like for you, have that like real sacral gut response where when you're solid in something, you're solid.
00:07:48
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But Jimmy, is it true that if it's kind of further away from you, you're easier to get that intuitive hit versus like, let's say Danny, you know, with like a close loved one or her pet or something, would it be harder for her to focus on her intuition?
00:08:02
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It would be because your emotions are evolved. So the more emotionally tied you are to it, the more you don't see it, with that objective point point of view. That's why they always say what you obsess on, you push further away and what you resist, persist.
00:08:15
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It's because you're in that element and in that energy and that's your humanity. You know, the worst thing, like with chunk, for example, the worst thing people say to me, and I've had this said already, Oh, wait till you see him in spirit.
00:08:30
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I'm like, well, he's still my cat. That just, it was been three weeks, you know, that I raised since he was a baby. It's that energy. It's like, you know, it doesn't mean our humanness.
00:08:42
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It doesn't make us fallible, but I don't even like that we're fallible. I think that that's part of the human experience as well. And you're still gaining with wisdom and knowledge. And then that intuition, even through your mistakes and errors, we have a society and human beings have a mindset that we always have to be right.
00:09:03
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And that's not true. We have a mindset that we all there's a need to be right or need to understand. You even get this with psychic energy and spirituality now. There's a need to know everything.
00:09:14
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Going back to what we're talking about with Danny, for example, you were mentioning that sometimes the closer it is to you, the harder it is to make your and intuitive decision. So Danny, not to like harp on you, but let's say with Jack's medical issues, so Jack's her dog and because naturally, right, you're going to be so emotionally tied, parents to children, to pets, et cetera.
00:09:36
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How then can people hone in and trust their intuition in those types of emotional overwhelm? You mean, are you speaking in moments of crisis?
00:09:46
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And no, not necessarily crisis, but just say, you know, your child or your pet is going through a medical issue. Maybe it's not a life or death crisis, but it's just, you're trying to figure stuff out. You're maybe going with an issue with, ah you know, someone that's close to you.
00:10:02
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And it's ah emotionally obviously overwhelming because you want, you want the best for your child or your pet or whatnot. but Right. And you want the resolution. Yeah. Yeah. How you listen to your intuition? Then when you're going, Do you re should you really do this or should I do this should i do this or should I do this?
00:10:18
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I would go with what energy repeats and what essence repeats and the sense of if you've got a feeling and that's the gut feeling you have and you're still sticking by it, the stick by it, you'll get your answers or you'll get guided.
00:10:32
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You'll get guidance and clarity around it. Where it'll direct you. What does that look, like Danny? something your face is not hot
00:10:43
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um Say what you got to say, Capricorn. and That sounds very wise. But for me, that's like not the case, especially with myself and Jack.
00:10:56
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any Anyone else, I'm like, boom, I usually got it, right? Without even like, you know, that sense of knowing. So what you're saying is how do you dispel that? Is that what you're asking where you get that clarity? Yeah, because you're saying like, oh, you'll get it, you'll get it. Yeah, like maybe in like 25 years I might get it, but like I'm the patience that the when I'm too close to it, like, for example, Jack and myself, I mean, it's been over. It's been years and I haven't gotten it because it's I feel like I when it comes to myself and him. No, I'm it's miss miss miss.
00:11:30
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ah You know what it feels like? It feels like there's so much noise and I can't differentiate what is noise and what is my intuition. all right. Well, don't don't kill the messenger. i got and I got an answer, but don't kill the messenger.
00:11:44
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but oh Some of that may be acceptance of what you cannot change and that you don't, you're not going to know everything and you're not going to get all your answers right now in this moment.
00:11:57
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I didn't realize, I'll give you an example of this really quick, until Chung died, how much Chung influenced my life, how much Chung influenced my house. The essence of what I learned from him, the essence of who, what he was and what he represented in my life.
00:12:13
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And everything I thought I knew about him, I didn't know at all. Here I thought it was just a punk cat that was a punk cat. And he was it was deeper than that. Our relationship was really teaching.
00:12:25
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And so you can't see all the answers in one moment. And sometimes it doesn't come when you want it at that time. But you will be able to gain clarity and reflection upon it.
00:12:36
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at some point, but some of that in the process of it, Danny, that's why I said, don't kill the messenger. Some of that in the process of it is learning acceptance with that and acceptance with yourself, with your own healing.
00:12:50
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And that's, that's a hard thing. That's a hard thing to wrap your head around.
00:12:56
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he i think sometimes too, right? Isn't it basically in those instances is just taking action or making a decision and then naturally it might your intuition or you'll be guided in a certain direction.
00:13:11
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It's because sometimes you and just have to make a move, right? Sometimes you're just going to make a move. They want us to make moves and you'll have some people that just don't make make any moves. On the contrary to that, Jimmy.
00:13:26
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Sometimes like i have moved so much, moved too much. And then they're like, they're like, they're like, psych, you're doing too much.
00:13:40
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And then it's like, oh my God, you can't do It's like, it's like, so I'm just that action oriented. I will say. But for people like me that are like want to do, do, do, you can do. I feel like what I've been told from Jimmy's guidance is like, oh, you can do too much.
00:13:56
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Like you can get an neuroroda in that neurotic headspace where you're doing. You can get obsessive. You have to find the balance in that. If you're doing too much that's a good point, Danny. You do need to find balance. I don't think people find balance.
00:14:09
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So that's the surrendering and acceptance then is what you're saying. Would you pardon of me? That's the surrendering and acceptance for Yes. Yes. It's finding acceptance and finding and knowing that you're doing the best you can do for the moment.
00:14:22
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You know, I think people, i find a lot of people with intuition and trusting themselves gets, they get too far in the future or they reflect too much on the past because yeah they always, they're waiting for that shoe to drop.
00:14:39
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You know, they're always waiting for that shoe to drop. And that's somebody that's, that's, that's, and I have a friend who does that with their job and their work. They're always thinking the worst outcome is going to happen.
00:14:51
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And that's trauma response. That means you're traumatized. and i hate that use of that word. But the other thing is that they're reflecting too much on what happened instead of learning learning from it and taking what they learned and using to push them forward.
00:15:06
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Because it's a fear. I mean, I got that right. i think I think, yeah, so how do you distinguish then, am I doing this out of a trauma response or ah a healthy fear or intuition? Because we all come in with a past, right? And so whatever we're dealing with, we're all jaded in some instance.
00:15:24
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And so how then do you go, Like if Danny's saying, you know, there that I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop, then you can argue, well, if she's always waiting for the other shoe to drop, then the other shoe is just going to drop. So how do you rewire that and and really trust that, oh, if I've been burned this many times in the past, then I won't be burned the next time?
00:15:43
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By trusting that you've had that experience and you can navigate your way through it. It, and maybe making some different choices, which you naturally will do because we do not repeat the same.
00:15:59
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We do not.
00:16:01
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going to, I'm trying to put this in a context to help you understand and say it in a very human form that I'm not hearing in a very human form at the moment.
00:16:11
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Um, it's like taking a test. If you take a test and you retake the test, you don't get the same answers.
00:16:19
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You know, if you had ah if you had an exam and say you failed the exam, so they do a second test, do over test. OK, say everybody in class failed that exam. So they give you another test.
00:16:31
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You're not going to answer things the same way and you're not going to study the same way.
00:16:35
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Um, Jimmy, I'm Asian, so I only get a hundred percent on my tests.
00:16:41
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I'm trying to put it into. Even in the same less test or lesson, you're approaching it differently. Right? Because that's where your intuition comes in and your experience, but how to let go of that shoe dropping is that you've been here and you can navigate your way through it.
00:16:58
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I think people hold on to their pain as a way of, um, not allowing themselves and I'm even guilty of this, not allowing themselves to move forward. It's a way to feel comfortable and safe in your pain and your trauma.
00:17:14
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I've learned even with me, like um two a week ago, two weeks ago, I was able to descend stairs for the first time in five years. Now, mind you, was only three stairs. I was holding onto a railing in the wall, but I still went down those steps. I haven't done that in five years.
00:17:31
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I have to stop telling myself that I cannot walk down stairs.
00:17:37
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And that's what I mean. You start to handle it differently. I can do it, but I need some assistance. I could do it, but I'm still a little bit afraid I can do it. It's changing. And that's what naturally starts to change. The more that you go through it, have experiences.
00:17:51
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So even when you're waiting for that shoe to drop, you're either going to, you know, you're either going to catch that shoe. You're going to put on another shoe or you're going to shoot a shoe, shoe list down the list.
00:18:02
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You know, because there's a way to handle things and a way to retrain your ah your thought process. I feel what happens with people is, oh, this always happens. Oh, it's all I always choose bad men.
00:18:14
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Well, do you?
00:18:16
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do you Or do you just accept them? get You know, when women say to me, I choose the horrible man, I have a horrible love life, it's horrible. And I'm just like, well, this is what you're this what you're accepting.
00:18:28
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It's not what you're choosing, it's what you're accepting.
00:18:33
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You know, if the shoe is always going to drop and you accept that the shoe is going to drop, then that's what happens. The shoe drops. But if you say, wait a minute, the shoe could drop. But I know the shoe might drop, but do what do I want to do differently?
00:18:48
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That's the question, Danny. That's the question, Maya, to ask yourself, what could I do differently in this scenario so that you're not repeating the same thing? What am I doing that's different?
00:19:00
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You know, and And Danny, as you were saying with yourself and with Jack, where you feel like you're missing, you're still doing something different every time you approach the problem. So therefore you're not missing.
00:19:12
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You're gathering information. The thing is the acceptance is it's not coming in the time, and timely fashion that you would like, and you're frustrated and exhausted and maybe very overwhelmed with every aspect of it.
00:19:26
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And that's your humanity. And that's the not keep you humble. But that's to give you that brings in the balance so that you then don't go too far extreme or too far back.
00:19:42
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Does that make sense? Yeah. So you're saying with the shoe dropping, it's even if the shoe drops, it's instead of going, see, look, the shoe did drop.
00:19:53
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It's going, okay, the shoe dropped. I've been here before. i've navigated this before. this is what I've learned and what I'm going approach it a little bit differently this time around versus kind of confirming to your brain oh see the shoe dropped because then the brain goes yep that's why because it always does and then that like perpetuates that cycle right exactly that's exactly it what ah or what what did you do differently even if the shoe does drop what did you do differently you did something differently you know danny with jack with every vet you've gone to you've learned something new and you handled things differently
00:20:30
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You can't say that you have it. It's knowing that youre your long-term outcome, you're handling you're doing you're handling your problems differently.
00:20:39
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And you can debate me on this, Annie. I love your debates. Bring it. Now.
00:20:57
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She's learning. often someone who feels they haven't received answers in the time they want, right? And they're trying to practice patience, yada, yada, yada.
00:21:11
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How can they, what advice should they be doing to
00:21:17
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OK, practice acceptance. But what should they be doing in this waiting period? Is there anything they can be doing to speed it up? Is this like a lesson that they can like get and then speed up? Or is it like accept and then you'll you know what I'm trying say?
00:21:29
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That's a great question, because I've been in that I've been in that position. Sometimes all you could do is wait because that's the lesson in itself is waiting. The thing is, we don't think waiting is a lesson, but it is.
00:21:43
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ah Waiting is the lesson because some things are out of your hands. Some things spirit, I've talked about this before and maybe and maybe not we haven't stressed it enough in the podcast.
00:21:54
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Sometimes spirit has to work on your stuff. You know, they're not like, here it is. The thing is, we they think we think spirits like men magicians. there They pull rabbits out of hats all the time and miracles and they do bring the miracles. Don't get me wrong, Danny.
00:22:09
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I know you're firm believer in small miracles. like myself, you know, but the thing is, sometimes the lesson itself is waiting because that's part of your soul growth too.
00:22:19
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Why is that important? Because what do you do when you wait? You reflect and you go inward and you re-strategize and you come up with new plans and new ideas. And the thing is to try to do that from a higher space and higher perspective so that you don't get in that obsessive, possessive, I want this outcome mode.
00:22:42
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And part of the lesson too with that, with that fear and intuition, to go back to that a little bit, is to not have an outcome. Don't worry about the outcome. It's going to be what it's going to be, right? And that's a hard concept for everybody.
00:22:57
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You know, that's a hard, kind for myself, that's one of my greatest challenges is it's going to be what it's going to be. Because where I go back, my dating life is horrendous. Everybody knows.
00:23:08
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I date and date and date and date and date. I get the same kind of man. It's the same kind of thing. I tell this to myself. And i'm like, oh, and then I've learned not to go through that with myself because it's a fair. That's not true.
00:23:21
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Because what happens is when I'm meeting new people and dealing with new situations, oh, I don't like this. Let me pull out from here. Oh, let me stand up for myself here. That's what I mean about you may not be, people may not be seeing how they're growing and evolving or pace the pace they're growing and evolving, but we can only get what we can get when we can get it.
00:23:40
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You know, so if you're in that period of waiting, that's the lesson sometimes, Danny. And if you're feeling exhausted in that,
00:23:50
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Then gather information to help distract you and give you more clarity. Or is it kind of like, what do you want to do for yourself during this waiting period? Basically? Very good.
00:24:01
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Yes. Yes. Advice to tell me is to gather info. I feel like that's all I do all day. No, but for yourself, and not for it, not kind of like a, no, no, no. It's a reflective period. When you're waiting, it's reflective. You're like cocooning.
00:24:16
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You know, you're totally cocooning. Like when they told me to lay flat for four months, what could I do?
00:24:22
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Four months I was told to lay flat.
00:24:26
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Don't do anything, Jimmy. Don't leave your house. Don't clean your house. Don't do anything. think some people's life courses are like, pre-conditioned or predisposed to waiting? Like, are there some signs? Like, for example, Capricorn. Like, I feel like a lot of my life is waiting and that patience lesson because I just don't get it a lot, right? Like, I'm not i'm impatient. I'm an impatient predator.
00:24:48
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But I feel like every kind of thing that, you know, there's like a blessing and then there's that waiting period. And I don't know if it's a Capricorn thing. Like, it's kind of uphill, that like uphill It's a little bit, but what's interesting with your contrast, because I know a little bit of your chart, is you have some Sagittarius in you that's hot and fiery.
00:25:06
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So the contrast, you have Capricorn going, go no, not yet. And then you have Sag, but I want to do it now. I'm just going to do it. Sag is the risk taker. So your balance is, if you want to look at weigh that in Your balance would be to take the risk or wait it out or to take some risk and wait it out.
00:25:24
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So yes, I could say there's some people that have chosen that kind of path because that might be a lot of lessons in patients that maybe in prior lifetimes and not just going there or past traumas in prior lifetimes where you didn't wait and made hasty choices.
00:25:48
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Maya, do you feel like you wait a lot? Or do you feel like you kind are like boom, boom, boom, boom? My North Node is in Capricorn, so I feel like I do. I feel like I always taste say that I'm taking the scenic route in life.
00:26:02
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um But I think that because like for you being such an action oriented person and traditionally Capricorns are known as it is the slow and steady and they gain it with time, which what is nice is like with time and with age, Capricorns usually keep rising versus other signs might kind of go up and down around right capital funds kind of have this like steady trajectory but then again and with that fieriness and then with i think you're gemini rising as well which yeah i thought gemini rising too couldn't remember there you want those quick because your mind can go really fast but then i feel like where the action can be taken because you're such an action-oriented person is okay then i'm learning patience and waiting so then ah where i can have control is how do i want to wait
00:26:47
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What am I going to do for the waiting? Okay. Then I'm going to take time for myself. I'm going to focus on me because clearly, like if i'm going to have to wait anyway, then I'm going to, what, how do I want to do, how does the waiting period look like for me? And that's where I feel like your strengths are always like, you're really good at crafting what, like what you want to do and what it looks like. Does that make sense?
00:27:09
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Yeah. No, she she's on point. You're on point. i agree. I think that, um, i I know with spirit, we're all experiencing the same things. We're just reacting differently and handling it differently.
00:27:23
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And that's what gets recorded. That's what gets reported back to our groups and everything in our sleep and the council and all this fun stuff that happens when we dream. um But I think she's right with you. I think it's how do you how do you want to wait?
00:27:35
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What do you want to do in your waiting time? But that's also with everybody because they're there's reflection there. You know, but Danny, you are, ah can't give you this. You're the queen of weight.
00:27:47
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You really have mastered it. So, but I think things, I believe things are starting to move though around you. Your jobs are shifting.
00:27:57
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Your life is shifting. Jack is moving you along whether you admit it or not, you know? So there's movement out of that waiting period.
00:28:07
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We should, we'll do an episode, Danny, in five years and we'll bring this episode up and be like, what was what Jimmy said? No. 2020, when you're in it,
00:28:19
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you're in it you know but jimmy i feel like You know, this year with chaos and curveballs being thrown in people's way, and of course, personally as well, i I'm sad that I definitely have shifted more into fear drives my life right now.
00:28:38
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So i I do actions based out of fear versus based out of trust. And I feel that, of course, that can be a trauma response, that can be a jaded response, fear response, et cetera.
00:28:49
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but Okay, so then how do people approach the first step into stopping that cycle? Yes, it's approaching things differently, I i understand. But is there anything, insights that come to for you of like, if you're so fear-driven, I think a lot of society is really fear-driven,
00:29:06
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Right. If you don't get this job, then or if you don't go to school, you won't get this job. If you don't do this, then you won't get that. If you don't buy this product, your skin will look like shit, whatever it may be. It's like all fear driven. um so how how do we shift that? Because the fear, I think, is exhausting people. People are so burnt out right now and it's so hard to trust.
00:29:29
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I would then second getting a lot of things. There's a lot of things to say on this.
00:29:38
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Make your choices out of love.
00:29:41
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There is no fear when you make choices from love. It destroys love. It takes the darkness away. It brings in light. Make your choices out of love. The thing is, we're taught that we need All this external to be important and oh everything that everything that's created is created from love.
00:30:03
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Everything. You can't create anything. We even created this podcast out of love. It's a love of knowledge. It's a love of wisdom. It's a love of other people. That's what created this podcast, right?
00:30:15
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It's a love of the divine. It's a love to bring the divine information down, right? So make choices out of love. Because that will dispel the fear, um, to subside that anxiety and fear.
00:30:31
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Know that when you choose something out of love, you're not choosing wrong.
00:30:35
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You're not choosing wrong. Even if it's a tough choice, you know, pepper chunk, that was a hard choice for me. That was out of love. Oh, well you can keep them around for two or three weeks on medicine.
00:31:03
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You know, choosing to let go of people in your life is a choice in love because you're not growing from with that person in your life, whether be a friend, whether be a partner, whether be a family member.
00:31:16
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it's It's still a choice of love. It's a tough, tough love, but it's still choice nonetheless. And it's for your own soul's development and growth.
00:31:25
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Because the other thing that as far as decisions thing, everything ebbs and flows, we forget that things have been flow. They don't stay the same. Things are not meant to stay the same.
00:31:36
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That's why bodies change. That's why we get older. That's why we have physical pain at 50 where we didn't have it 20 and 30.
00:31:46
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It's things like that, you know, like everybody, for example, keeps telling me with magic because magic is grieving and I'm grieving and we're both, we're taking a day by day. or you should bring a cat in. Why?
00:31:57
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have a cat. have a cat that's really devoted to me. If they know this cat, they would know this cat's devoted to me and that he's going to grieve too. i even was suggested to give him medicine to help calm him.
00:32:10
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And I chose against that because what would I say to you? got to feel to heal it. And I don't want to be drugged out of my mind if I'm grieving. i just want to feel it and scream and cry. So if magic needs to go hide off somewhere and do what he has to do and needs his alone time, then he needs his for alone time.
00:32:28
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If he's hugging me more and he's laying with me more, then that's what we're doing. We're walking each other through it. You know, make your choices out of love and that will dispel your fear. That will help.
00:32:40
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And that's how you know also that you're making the right choice. Now, that being said, because some people are delulu, like, and romanticize their life.
00:32:55
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You want to make a choice. You want to make a choice. It's a win-win situation and try not to hurt people in the process. And the reason I say try is because you don't know how people are going respond.
00:33:10
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And that's our humanity. Again, that's a humanist. People get offended if you say the wrong thing. People get upset with you. We fight, we argue. You know, those are all things. Do you want to ask yourself are these things that get can be worked out? I've had clients lambast me that my readings are horrible and, you know, awful. I'm an awful psychic.
00:33:30
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And ah do I defend myself there? What do I say? What do I do? How do I want to handle that? Do I take the criticism? No. Yes and no. Sometimes I will. Sometimes I won't.
00:33:41
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A lot of times I'm like, no, when I read, I read, honestly, I read openly. I said what I had to say and I stand in conviction, but, and how people respond to you isn't always going to be the way you would like it as well.
00:33:54
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That's why you have problems with your coworkers. We all have those coworkers. ah I can't stand her. I can't stand him. Remember that your teachers, you know, just like with, with Sean, I have to talk about this cat.
00:34:07
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He was my most defiant cat ever. I could tell Trump not to choose something. He would show it right in front of me and look me dead in the eye.
00:34:18
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He would look me dead in the eye and just chew. And then when I've talked to my friend, Lauren, who was his vet, Jimmy, he does it because he likes the negative attention. So you have to wonder what's going on when, but like I said, you got to do what's right for you and choose love, choose love. And you won't have the fear.
00:34:39
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And as far as trusting your intuition and developing that, the more, the the more experiences you have and the more choices you make, the more you gain that wisdom and enlightenment and can make different choices in the moment when similar scenarios show up because similar so scenarios always show up.
00:34:58
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If you notice you have that one friend you got rid of, but you would then get a new friend. That's just like that old friend.
00:35:03
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like So you have to, you're not going to handle it the same way. You're not. And the universe does throw things, pings, pangs, little things and little angels to help you. You know, they throw little angels in to help you.
00:35:21
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So examples of, because work well with examples of choosing things I do like what you're saying about choose with love over fear. i think that's a powerful message, but to kind of bring that into a real example. So let's say, let's say money, right? so instead of me paying a bill or paying for something and feeling fearful that I won't have more, it's choosing the, I love that I have this money right now to be able to pay it. Is that like a real example? That's exactly it.
00:35:52
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That's exactly Thank God I had the money. Thank God ah I'm abundant enough where I could pay that bill because there's some people that can't pay that bill. And you'll find that the universe, even in your crisis and neurosis, I think we're all neurotic i and right now, especially in this world, this planet, even in your neurosis, they will they will give you things to help you.
00:36:16
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You just, you know, the thing is they...
00:36:19
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They want us to overcome challenges. And that's what we're here to do. There's a myth among society that we're all here to be happy and wonderful and loving. And that's not true. This this planet is hard work.
00:36:31
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i don't This is not for the faint of heart. This is like a crash course in life lessons. I've said that a million times. I still stand on that. This is not an easy planet to incarnate on. It's not an easy planet to be on.
00:36:43
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Cause you have everything coming at you at one time. And I, you know, and even as ah a myth, as a kid, i always thought, oh, I'm an adult. It's going to so much easier. I think it's 10 times worse.
00:36:54
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I think it's 10 times it's better in some ways worse than others. I'm like, I don't know. You know, Interesting. Yeah. I'm just like playing different scenarios of like what people listening could really practice choosing love out of fear. So like we did the money one. um Well, like if you're leaving a relationship that's ah not working for you, then be proud of yourself that you empowered yourself to move forward.
00:37:21
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yeah If you lost your job and got fired, this is easier said than done, be grateful that they gave you the opportunity to leave a place where you weren't going a thrive or prosper.
00:37:33
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Why do you want to stay in the same energy if you're not growing there? You know, you know, there's people that take pay cuts because of that and situation. And that doesn't mean anything either. Money is fluid. It ebbs and flows. It comes and goes. We have it. We don't have it.
00:37:47
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We can't take it with us. We can't take anything here with us other than the memories and the knowledge and the love. Yeah. so part of dispelling that fear, maybe just a suggestion, just a suggestive thought is maybe um to let go of the materialism in your life.
00:38:07
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the tangible in their life. And I'm not saying that you don't need a place and a place to eat. And I'm not saying any of that. So don't come for me. What I am saying is to be grateful for what you have and be grateful for the time that you have it.
00:38:21
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Yeah. You know, Maya, you and I just put pets down. like i not even a month apart. even think it was a month apart. Well, Pepper didn't give me that choice. She was like, bitch, I'm out. But I think she knew that I didn't.
00:38:33
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was actually on the way I was on the way back to the emergency vet and she died in my arms in the kitchen. um And I feel I was just having conversations on the phone with a good friend who's a vet who really helped me through this.
00:38:49
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And she was saying, look, like, have you thought what you're going to do when you get to the vet? Right. And when you have to make that realistic choice. And I was going back and forth about it so much that I think, A, I think Pepper just was like, I'm going to take that choice for you. And she just died in my arms.
00:39:06
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And so it, yeah, I do think that, don't where I was going with that, but, um, I think that there's a lot of choosing love, like you're saying, when you process grief, because you always at the second guess yourself, like, what if I had done this? And what if I had done this? And what if this? And then choosing love would be more compassionate with yourself, knowing that you did what was right in the moment. Or, you know, if you've been...
00:39:32
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hurt in the past and like reopening yourself up to love it's okay well my fear would be okay if someone sees who i am then they might reject me and then i guess choosing out a love would be but then that's just redirection they're not for me or Exactly. Yes, yes.
00:39:50
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You're right on target. Examples that you were giving, because I think that's a practical way for us to start to rewire when fear does come up. And it's not like we have to feel that fear, right, to move it through. So we don't numb ourselves with things. We just go, OK, I'm feeling this fear. And this is what the love version would look like.
00:40:09
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Right. And that's why like I'm all for drugs and moderation. But like I said, to drop my cat for what? So he just sleeps. I want to take the edge off to those compassion in that, too. If I made that choice.
00:40:21
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yeah But my thing was for me to get a pill down his throat. Magic would be the fight of my life that I just I personally don't have in me. I know he's going to be 12 this week coming.
00:40:32
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He doesn't have it in him. And I'm thus like, you know, listen, let's maybe he'll come around on his own and I'll come around on my own. And you go from there. But like I said, um it's yes, it's redirecting those choices. It's knowing that the universe is redirecting you.
00:40:48
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Maybe it's maybe it's not so much about maybe the trust is more so not only trust that the spirit's got your back. We always talk about that and they know what they're doing and it's for your highest good.
00:41:00
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Even in your darkest moment, you're never by yourself. Like, you know, i had the message with Chuck. Onyx always comes for Chuck and she always has.
00:41:12
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And when I had a ah visit Sunday night into Monday morning where it woke me up, don't know if I told both you this, I might have told somebody this, I might Danny this. And it woke me up and I thought it was Chuck on my bed and it woke me up out a dead sleep.
00:41:26
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And I thought to myself, oh he's probably gonna have that bladder issue because we're gonna check his bladder when Lauren gets back from, um she was traveling. And I thought nothing of it.
00:41:37
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Then the next morning I said my goodbyes and didn't even know I said goodbye. I told him we nailed down our soul contract. We've really been doing what we got to You're a little bit crazy. I was a little bit crazy, but we did it.
00:41:50
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And now I just get to love you because I just love our our banter together. And then that was my way of saying goodbye without knowing. They guide you along those darker moments. yeah It's the thing is they can't take you out of that human experience that his death for me was um he went peacefully in the end, but it was very traumatic.
00:42:12
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But that cat, like I said, challenged me. So even in my, what I'm thinking is my weakest moment that I'm not going to be able to do stairs. I had to bring a cat up 22 steps.
00:42:25
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and when i didn't think i could do it and that's where like oh you talk about a final exam like like you said he was like like pepper said bitch this is where i'm going he said the same thing well guess what you're gonna take me up these days because my only thought was in my chaotic moment once i snapped out of my trauma i was like i'm not letting you die on this dusty floor in a basement that's not even kind ah like more so we use I don't mean to laugh about it, but when you think about it, that because he was such he challenged me on, I lie not.
00:43:00
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I have holes in my fireplace grate where he chewed cast iron. He chewed on one of my wine racks, which is all stainless steel. you know i even put his collar up on his picture, his kitten collar, and he chewed on that.
00:43:16
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ah yeah He was just sharpening his teeth, Jimmy. Exactly. So the thing was where he challenged me, he challenged me even in the final throes, you know?
00:43:28
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Yeah. And the thing is, and to find the beauty and the growth of things, I think people get so stuck on outcomes on this planet that they don't look at the the beauty of growth.
00:43:39
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Yeah. And the process of it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's also natural. Don't you think that's like a humaneness too? Yes. That's the, Danny, when you ask about life lessons and you've mentioned this with, um, with,
00:43:55
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waiting and things like that. It's, we have to have the human humanness, the humanity along with the spiritual. we We're not on this planet to do one or the other. The problem is we have society that thinks we're here to be spiritual loving and we gotta be all knowing and we have to have enlightenment. Well, they're forgetting earth is earth, it's grounding. So that's how you get your enlightenment through the trenches.
00:44:19
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This is a hard planet. It's not an easy planet, but that's shifting too. Yeah. That's shifted to what I'm hearing you say too to, kind of wrap this up, I know we're on time here, but basically when we're operating out of fear, it's a lot of trying to keep control. And when we operate and choose love, it's learning to release control and that acceptance you had mentioned in the beginning, that surrendering that you mentioned in the beginning, which releasing the expectation of an outcome and just being.
00:44:52
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in that present. But as we kind of wrap up here, Dani, do you have any final thoughts or questions for Jimmy, Spirit or Magic? Yeah. um Oh, Magic. I do. I think that when people say surrender and accept and Maya, you just kind of gave an example. You were like, let go of the outcome.
00:45:10
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What? Besides saying accept and surrender and letting go the outcome, what is that? Because it's easy to say, but it's hard to do, right? Like what does surrender?
00:45:21
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What does it mean people are like, just surrender to the universe? There's this meme going around. Do you see the guy going like this? No. No, I haven't seen that yet. Oh my gosh. So anyway, he was like, yeah, once I surrender and get aligned, I'll send it to you guys And he's just like flowing.
00:45:35
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I'll send It's everywhere. um But basically like... what does that really mean? Like, okay just, just learn acceptance, surrender.
00:45:46
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it means to surrender to your own truth, surrender to your own choices, surrender to the possibilities.
00:45:56
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Danny's like, I'm going to need more practical examples than that. please Meaning like surrender and and sense of whatever you choose is what you choose. There's no right or wrong. Let go of like go to self-judgment behind the choices of things.
00:46:12
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Let go of the self-judgment behind the choices. Me, I fell asleep on the sofa for three hours and was loving magic all up and watching and then decided to go check on Chuck.
00:46:24
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Even because when I checked on him after I cleaned up the mess, um, then he left because he left the mess and because of a stroke. He was fine. But you know what about chump too?
00:46:36
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He was eating French fries. I was feeding him French fries right before he had his stroke. So at least he was eating what he loved because he loved fries. Cat loved everything. He ate everything. but So you have to be happy with your choices. You have to surrender to your choice that your choice is the best choice.
00:46:52
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Like let go of the judgment.
00:46:54
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So let ah let go of like regret or guilt or judgment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's unnecessary energy and that keeps you locked in fear and locked in mistrust. And that's where you get blocked from learning to trust your own intuition, to circle back to the beginning of the episode. that Because what happens is you'll get locked in that mindset of self-judgment and then of what would have, could have, should have.
00:47:20
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Or here it goes again. this is going to happen again. so ah keeps ah Judging yourself is different than reflecting upon yourself. Reflecting is looking from a place of objectiveness.
00:47:33
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Judging yourself is looking at yourself like you could have, would have, should have. And if you could let go of that judgment, that'll help you surrender to the choices that you're making and that your choices are made and loved no matter what.
00:47:46
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And no matter what choice you make, there's no right or wrong choice. Let go of shame.
00:47:53
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Because the one thing we're great at is shaming ourselves. I believe that for the first week when I cried over Chunk, I was shaming myself. Jimmy, it's a cat. You need to be, but and not that it's not a cat. I know better.
00:48:04
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my My soul made my spirit animal, the artist formerly known as Chunk. But like the thing is, in my mind, i was shaming myself because i didn't cry this hard over my mother. Like, it's like, You know, but I also didn't see my mother every day. And I also didn't raise my mother from the size of my palm.
00:48:23
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Like, yeah you know. Yeah. So but you have to remember your emotions then, like just letting yourself go. Right. And, and that's, and let go of shame around it. And that again, that goes back to, I guess, should have, could have, would have.
00:48:37
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Yeah. And judging he yourself, but try not to have shame. Yeah. That was a good point too. That's a good point. All right, Jimmy, we'll just try not to have shame. Just surrender and accept.
00:48:51
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So easy. And be in the flow. I see that. I got to see that and be in flow. Okay, well, I appreciate you all today. It's so nice to reconnect with you all. And thank you, everyone who's listening. Jimmy, before we wrap it up with our final, final ending sentence, does Spirit want to leave us with anything or you feel like they got everything else out on their mind? do we even say mind?
00:49:18
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I feel they conveyed the thoughts yeah as it was meant to be. um Just like to really choose love. Choose love, loves the way, loves the way to everything.
00:49:29
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Loves the way to all possibilities and outcomes. Yeah, to choose love. They would say to choose love with every choice that you make, but no matter how difficult it is, no matter what you're struggling through, what you're challenging through, and choose to love yourself in the process.
00:49:45
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of everything and the process of learning. Beautiful. I love that. Well, I hope you all got some practical examples from this episode and remembering to choose love over fear because then love dispels fear. I think that's what you said.
00:50:00
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All right. We'll be back with another episode soon. We're all getting through this chaotic year together. So thank you, Jimmy, Spirit, Danny. We'll see you all next time. Bye.
00:50:10
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care. Bye-bye. Thank you everyone.
00:50:15
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All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us on today's episode of Spiritually Desperate. If you would like to hear more, please subscribe to the show and feel free to leave us a comment. We would all love to hear your thoughts.
00:50:27
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Have a great day and see you on the next one.