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S1E18: Astrology 101 Sun Signs
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In today's episode, astrologer Sarah Sherman is back to kick off our astrology 101 series where she dives into the elements and modalities within astrology, sidereal vs western astrology, the significance of knowing your sun sign, light and shadow aspects of each sun sign, and more.
If you are interested in reaching out to Sarah for an astrology reading, please e-mail: innerstellar.astrology@gmail.com
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00:00:01
Speaker
Hey everyone, welcome to Spiritually Desperate with myself, psychic medium, Jimmy Bay, and my co-host, spiritual enthusiast, Danny Amaya. Please join us as we deep dive into the soul, connect with spirit to help answer some of life's challenges. We'll be discussing a variety of topics to help guide you and keep you in empowered. Let's begin.
00:00:23
Speaker
Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Spiritually Desperate. And we're doing Astrology 101 with Sarah again, who's joining us, Danny and Stephen. How's everyone doing tonight? Stellar. Amazing. Damn really good. and So Sarah, we're happy to have you back.
00:00:43
Speaker
And you're going to go over the sun signs and talk to us all about them. And you know, everybody loves their sun sign. You know, there's favorite signs, the least favorite signs. What do they say, Scorpios and Geminis people hate? What do you think about that? um I think my I'm going to try to unshame the Zodiac. That's actually like a term. There's a girl.
00:01:05
Speaker
there's a woman, her name's Britton LaRue, and she wrote, she wrote a really awesome book called Living Astrology and she talks about unshaming the signs and so I feel like I want to kind of like break down some stereotypes about them and and kind of help explain like the darker side and the darker behaviors of each signs and what drives the higher and lower expression of each sign. So I'll talk about how you can make sense of each sign. So you have four elements. Each sign is a combination of an element and a modality. So we already know the four elements, right? We know earth, fire, air, and water. And so there's three modalities. We have cardinal and then fixed and then mutable.
00:01:53
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So each sign is a combination of either cardinal fix mutable or earth, air, fire and water. Right. And so if you combine the three modalities and the four elements, you get 12 signs. So if you can understand how the elements work and how the modalities work, you can essentially, that's like the basic building blocks of each sign. Are you with me so far? Does that make sense?
00:02:16
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Yes, you're making perfect sense. Okay, so steve I love Stephen Forrest's book called The Inner Sky. He has a really beautiful way of painting the zodiac in a way that's easy to digest and not so overwhelming. So if you understand cardinal fixed immutable as like the life cycle of energy,
00:02:36
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Cardinal is where it all starts. Cardinal is the initiator, it's that spark, right? So cardinal signs will get things going off the ground. They're like the idea people, the initiators, they start shit and they walk away, right? And then the fixed signs are the are the signs who will sustain. Because cardinal is where the energy is born, it sparks and it starts, right? And then after the energy kind of takes off,
00:03:00
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The fixed sign kind of helps to sustain the energy to keep it going. And at some point, the energy is going to change. And you know energy never doesn't really die. It just kind of changes shape and form. And that's where you get to the mutable signs. Mutable signs are really good with adapting to change, right? So we understand that cardinal is the initiator, fixed is the sustainer, and mutable is the changer or adapter, right?
00:03:24
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so We have cardinal air, cardinal earth, cardinal water, cardinal fire, right? Cardinal air is Libra, cardinal earth is Capricorn, cardinal fire is Aries, cardinal water is Cancer, right? So, and then let's go through the elements really quickly. So fire, fire loves to move. Fire loves to move energy. They're quick, they're fast and they move. Air too, air is also a quick mover.
00:03:52
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Um, and so earth is probably the slowest of the elements. I like to think like, and when you bury something into the earth, like, okay, take a piece of paper. If you want to destroy a piece of paper, fire is going to be the quickest way. Fire is going to like turn the ashes in 10 seconds. If you want to bury a piece of paper into the earth.
00:04:10
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It's gonna take a long time for Earth to break down that paper, right? So Earth moves slower, fire moves fast. And air and water, well, air moves pretty fast too. Water is kind of more tidal. I don't know if water is really fast or slow. It kind of vacillates. It kind of has its own tidal waves evaporating.
00:04:29
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um so So... So we can start with the beginning of the zodiac. So I read something really interesting. Zodiac actually means that arc of animals, right? And so the zodiac is essentially our path around the sun. You know, there's all these constellations in the sky, but our belt, our zodiac belt, our arc of animals is This is the pathway that we travel consistently year after year when we're going around the sun. Right. And so these are the constellations that we're traveling through. And so I also, I just recently learned, you know, how the Vedic astrology uses the Dereal Zodiac. Are you guys, are you? In Western astrology, we use the tropical Zodiac. I don't know if you know how there's difference. There's the tropical.
00:05:16
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zodiac system, and then there's the siderial system. And so the Vedic and the Eastern astrologers use siderial. And so what siderial is, it's like the actual astronomy of this where the zodiac is right now. So the tropical zodiac and the siderial zodiac are about 24, 25 degrees apart. So like you ever say we ever hear people say, oh, I'm a vedic like i'm in Vedic astrology, I'm this sign, but in tropical astrology, I'm this sign?
00:05:44
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Have you ever heard that before? Right, yes. So, like, Sidereal follows, like, the astronomical placement. Sidereal is the exact placement of where we are in the outer sky. Tropical is where we started two years ago, but with the precession of the equinoxes, we've slowly strayed, like, a degree more, like, more or less over the course. I forget what the calculations are. But over the last 2,000 years, the zodiac systems have strayed apart, like, 25 degrees. So, Sidereal is the astronomy of where we are right now, right? Like, so if we say, oh, right now today, it's November 17th, the sun's in Scorpio, right? Well, in the sidereal zodiac, the sun is actually probably at like just the beginning of Scorpio. But the whole thing with the tropical zodiac is that it keeps us in tune with the seasons, right? We know when every season hits, it's the first day of spring. We're starting over with the seasons again, right?
00:06:39
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And so even though the tropical zodiac is not correct astronomy wise, it keeps us in touch with like the changing of the seasons, and the the way the year goes. And so tropical is not, it serves its own function is the whole point of what I'm trying to say. So we travel around the zodiac belt, right and it starts with Aries that zero degree. It's a big deal actually. That 29th degree of Pisces and then moving into that first degree of Aries is really powerful. We're like wrapping up a cycle and starting a new one. So think Aries, it's Cardinal and it's Fire. That is like the big bang, right?
00:07:14
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So we're starting with Aries and Aries is usually the idea person that gets shit off the ground and walks away. Aries isn't really the person that keeps things going. They kind of just start shit and move on. They're like fire starters, no offense Aries. You're just starting fires everywhere. And then so like Aries is typically probably the i idea person and then Taurus will come in fixed earth and they'll kind of like, you know, Aries will get it off the ground, but like a A Taurus, which is a fixed earth sign, is understands how to sustain, right? So here's the other thing. I don't want to confuse you. All the cardinal signs square each other. All the fixed signs square each other.
00:07:57
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because there's four cardinal signs, four fixed signs, and four immutable signs. And when you divide the zodiac. And they all square each other, each one? Yeah, so when you divide the zodiac into four, you have 90 degrees. You have squares, right? so um So if you know all the cardinal signs, and like let's say you're like, oh, my son's in cancer, and like my moon's in Libra, you know, oh, cancer and Libra are both cardinal signs. So the sun and the moon are squaring each other. Right? So like fixed signs. like ah Taurus, Scorpio, um Leo, and Aquarius. right So those are all fixed signs. And the fixed signs are known for being stubborn. Because the fix the sign and the job of a fixed sign is to sustain and keep things the same and the way they are. you know So like that's how a fixed sign operates. So as we go through the zodiac, we start with cardinal fire. And then we go to Taurus, which is fixed earth. And then we go to Gemini, which is mutable air.
00:08:56
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And then so you'll see that in every season it's Cardinal fixed mutable, right? And that's spring. And then when we get to summer, we go back to cancer. Once again, every season starts with a Cardinal sign, right? Oh, that's cool. Yeah. You know you never think of it that way. So if you understand that like the seasons are shifting and changing and energy is shifting and changing as we move through signs and each sign has a function and a purpose.
00:09:22
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that it's made for, like seasonally speaking, elementally speaking, right? And so we start, so spring starts with the cardinal fire, Aries, and then spring is, right around the smack in the middle of spring, it's tar season, it's earth, right? And then when spring starts to shift in the summer, we go towards Gemini and it's mutable, right? And then it changes and shifts and then we're in summer.
00:09:45
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and it's cardinal water, right? And then after after cancer, we have fixed fire, which is Leo. And then we move into mutable earth, which is Virgo, right? And then after Virgo season ends, we're shifting into fall. So now we're into cardinal air, which is Libra. So you'll see as you move around the zodiac, it's cardinal fixed mutable, cardinal fixed mutable. So I hope that helps a little bit. And okay, so go ahead, questions.
00:10:14
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No, yeah, I've never heard that before. That's, that's fascinating. Does that help? Does it help kind of like? Yeah, it does help. It does help. And if you think about it, mutable, like Virgo, so we end summer, right? Cause you're a Virgo, so we end summer. So it's like, who brings the change? So mutable always brings change. Right. And mutable signs handle change. They're pretty, they're probably the, the sign that can handle change the best, honestly. So the mutable signs, we've got Gemini and then Sagittarius and then Virgo and Pisces.
00:10:42
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um which is interesting because you would think that Virgo can't handle change because they like to be, there's a, Virgo's kind of known for being controlling, but Virgo's actually mutable. So Virgo has the ability to adapt to change even though they they can be kind of really controlling and they like to be perfectionist, they kind of want to, they want to know that they're prepared and they just have that weird control thing, but they actually adapt.
00:11:11
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so So we did, okay, so we talked about Aries. Let's talk about Cardinal and fire, right? So if we mix Cardinal and fire, like what qualities would you think off the top of your head since Aries is Cardinal fire, right? Like just kind of a imagine.
00:11:33
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Any type of movement, any type of movement or action, initiation. Totally. That's it. Right. So when you start to think, okay, and then so Taurus is fixed earth, right? So right there, you hear the word fixed. Do you think stubborn? Right. That's, that's what I do when I know a sign is fixed. I'm like, Oh, stubborn. But then I think.
00:11:51
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The job of a fixed sign is to sustain. So their stubbornness is is like a quality that's inherent because they were made to do a job, which is to sustain something, right? And so fixed signs are- See, Steven, you have a purpose. Yeah. da yeah you' Sustaining. sustaining, Steven. Yeah. And so like what would fixed earth, you know like just kind of intuitively speaking, what qualities would fixed earth have?
00:12:20
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I would think planning, yeah i would think strategy, yeah practical right foundation. right All the earth signs are practical in some way, right whether it's cardinal, fixed, or mutable. So we can go through the elements and add the modalities. right So cardinal earth is going to be Capricorn, fixed earth is going to be Taurus, and then mutable earth is going to be Virgo. So they all have those practical qualities, but one is the initiator and the starter, Capricorn, which is Bossy.
00:12:46
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And then Taurus is covering a sign that tries to sustain everything. And then Virgo is kind of just you know adapting and and tweaking things and improving things. And Virgo is the one who's changing things to make them better. I'm sorry I'm jumping around a little bit, but I kind of want to help you understand that like each sign is not just a sign that stands alone.
00:13:09
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it's comprised of these building blocks of either an element or a mode. And when you can break down the signs into what element and what mode it is, you can almost intuitively understand, oh, OK. So Gemini, mutable error. So we know that mutable will adapt to change and kind of like is almost a little bit of like a chameleon. A mutable sign will read the room and figure out how to like fit into it and adapt to it. right
00:13:36
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and Air is, uh, extremely intellectual. Air is very cerebral. Um, and so if we think about mutable air for Gemini, like what qualities intuitively will come to mind and it's okay. What do you think Steven, you got the Gemini moon.
00:14:01
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Honestly, I don't see it. Yeah, I honestly don't know. I'm rather selfish in that regard in which I never paid attention to what the other signs are other than like what I am, what I'm supposed to match with. So i I don't know. i mean im to learn It's all good. So so mutable is is changing and air is moving, right? So its so Gemini is is quick to change and like quick to quick to move, right? so And when you end so here's why Gemini gets a bad rap, right? Because Gemini says something and then they turn around and do something else that's not in line with what they said. But what they said was five seconds ago and things have changed since then, so you gotta keep up.
00:14:41
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they're not like two-faced they're not saying one thing and doing the other it's literally changing that fast and you literally have to keep up with them and if you can't keep up and you're gonna it's your problem not there is tough shit yeah that's a nice way to explain it I ought to say that's a nice way that brings it up a couple notches instead of they're scattered and confused totally and so and that's like you know that's like an unrealized Gemini it's like it's like an unembodied Gemini like a disembodied Gemini if it can't if it can't keep up with itself or it can't if it's too scattered right um but like if you understand what drives each sign like a Taurus really wants to sustain things and keep them steady and consistent a Taurus isn't really craving
00:15:30
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like doesn't have the craving to like move all the time. Taurus really wants stillness, right? And so essentially if you're looking at a temperament, Taurus and Gemini don't, they're not compatible because Gemini really wants to be on their feet and they want to be thinking on their feet and they want to be moving on their feet. And you know, so Gemini ruled by Mercury is you may also have the planetary rollers of each sign and that's also gives another dimension and color for each sign too. So now that I've kind of told you about the building blocks for each sign, we can talk about the rollers too, but when you understand that
00:16:03
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ah saw Each sign thrives in a certain condition and that's where they do their best. And so when signs aren't compatible with each other, it just means that like they're driven by different needs and different motives and um some work well and some don't. So like Gemini and Aries go awesome together because they both love to be move fast and quick and they like they like to move energy, right? Like Taurus and Cancer, no, they really crave comfort.
00:16:33
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and security and so like what drives them is different than what you know like water and earth really wants like comfort and practicality and air and fire really want stimulation and movement right so like it's just you know like if you understand what they crave and what they need if there's no it's really there's nothing wrong with incompatibility is that making sense You make it total sense. OK, so so we talked a little bit about the cardinal immutable affixed and. um If we understand the rulers of each sign. I mean, now we're going into planets and really. In astrology, I would say the number one thing you want to understand is planets.
00:17:24
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Signs and houses are great. planet are The planets are really kind of where like the mythology comes in. And the mythology is such a key piece in astrology, really, because the myths and the symbolism and the gods and the way that gods interact with the humans and all those tales and each function that the god that each god has really represents a planet which represents a function within one of us, right? So like Mercury's function is to communicate and deliver messages and travel and move and gather information and circulate information. That's Mercury's function, right? And so we all have that function in us, our mind, we speak, we write, we communicate, we process information, blah, blah, blah, like, right? So that's, that's how Mercury goes. Um, if we're looking at the moon, the function of the moon is totally different. Moon is mother.
00:18:18
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It's nurturing, it's safety, it's connection, it's coming together, right? And so it's how do we how do we connect, how do we love, how do we nurture, and what do we need to feel nurtured? And so if you understand that each planet represents a very different function that plays an important role in our entire personality,
00:18:44
Speaker
you know when you understand that like each body in the chart speaks to a specific part of us, that to me is probably the most important thing if we're gonna be talking about it. So. So. Are you saying planets then motivate each line? So it's the planetary influence that pushes the sign? Yeah, so the idea, and some astrologers don't like the word ruler or lord, but it's an old traditional term. So each sign has a planet that it answers to.
00:19:12
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Right. So Aries and Mars. Um, and so what do we know about Mars in mythology? Mars is the God of war. Right. And so it's sex, ah passion. It's, um, it's sex drive. It's lost. It's it's, it's want, right. Um, and it's pursuit. So, and it's, it's red. It's like, it's just, it's power.
00:19:42
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And i mean I'm trying to think of some other keywords that go with Mars. hit
00:19:50
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It's how you express your energy. It's how you go after what you want. It's one thing to know what you want, but how do you go after it? right Because mars Mars doesn't attract. Mars pursues. right so like mars you know just Like, how do you how do you fight? you know How do you fight for what you want? That's Mars, right? So you understand that Aries is driven by the god of war. Then you can understand why Aries can be aggressive in certain ways, or why they can be off-putting. So it's kind of, you understand that it's cardinal fire and it's ruled by Mars. So I feel like understanding the element, the modality, and the ruler of each sign will already give you a picture of how to understand
00:20:31
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what drives it and like how to describe it. I hope that makes sense. Where it's looking at makes sense yeah like Taurus is ruled by Venus, right? And Venus can actually be mean too. And Venus can actually be a little bit violent in mythology as well, which is something I'm recently learning. I think, I think Taurus energy, not all do come for me with this. I think they're slow moving and I think they're extremely judgmental. Like Danny, you talk about Capricorns being judgmental.
00:21:00
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I think Taurus can be very judgmental. Interesting. So judgmental how? I just think they're they are they get fixed for the word on their mindset and nothing moves them. Nothing moves that bull. You can't sway them either way. No, because you know we what they want is a certain quality of comfort.
00:21:23
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Right? And so so Venus rules two signs. It rules Libra and Taurus, right? So Venus in an Earth sign is Taurus. So we're Venus is all about the senses in Taurus. Venus is all about, like in air, Venus is different because it's not about the body. It's about the mind, right? So it's about ideas. And so Venus ah is actually expressed very differently in those different signs.
00:21:50
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But Taurus is very committed to being comfortable in their physical body. And Venus is like super sensual, right? So, and Venus is very feminine. So with Taurus, usually Taurus usually has really nice skin. Like oh signs that are ruled by Venus usually have like a golden orb around the face, but they really just want... A golden orb? Yeah, so people who have... Or aura, aura. Well, I've actually read this, I read i forget where I read this, but people who have Venus ruling the Ascendant, so if they have Taurus rising or Libra rising or Venus close to the Ascendant, there's usually like a golden, there's just like a golden light around the face, like a golden orb. Is that why I'm so beautiful? I have Libra rising.
00:22:36
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yeah but um Libra risins are fun. It is. So like with Venus ruling the sign, Venus really, you know, Venus cares about, Venus is all about feeling good. And it's all about pleasure. So Venus is driven by pleasure. And Mars is driven by desire, which is different. And Mars pursues Venus attracts. And so we understand that like each planet is like an archetype.
00:23:03
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and there's like a mythology behind it, those things too help you understand the way a sign operates and what fulfills a sign and what drives and motivates it, right? I hope it might make any sense. Right. You make it sense. Does anyone have a question so far? Am I going? Do you want me to go through all of this? No. Go ahead. This is so interesting. It's just so complex that I had no idea all of this went into it.
00:23:28
Speaker
Yeah and you know people kind of just say this sign, this sign and for the longest time I thought like all these signs were just 12 different entities floating in space and I didn't know how to make sense of them and Why does this quality belong to that sign and not this one? Why would you describe this sign as that and not that? But when you understand the building blocks and the rulership and the mythology, you can actually intuit. You can use your, you can, if you understand, it's kind of like in Hebrew, Hebrew's an ancient language, it has a three-letter root system. And so when you understand that all words have a basic three-letter root, and when you understand what that root means, you can kind of infer what the word means.
00:24:05
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So you can kind of like intuitively understand each sign when you understand these other concepts underneath it. I don't want to complicate it more, make it more confusing. I'm trying to like demystify it. I hope I don't. I'm sorry. I got thirsty.
00:24:24
Speaker
No, no, but that Sarah to your point. That's why I think good astrologers suggest that you don't just look at the sun sign. You can't just judge an overall sunlight sun sign. So what do you think about like the social media, like the Instagram, the TikToks but when they talk about sun signs and compatibility? Like what's your thought on that? Because you see a lot of that. It's so generic. And if you're going to be generic with astrology, it's such a disservice to such a powerful tool. This tool really has the capacity
00:24:56
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to shine light on things that would otherwise remain shrouded in mystery. And if you're gonna glaze over nuance and detail and just kind of apply some like generic one size fits all bullshit, it's just a waste of a really beautiful tool. So like when people talk sunshine compatibility, i'm um you better believe I'm my here like rolling my eyes because the sun, yeah, sure.
00:25:24
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If I see so many relationships where there where the people's sun signs aren't really strongly connected, but the moon and the ascendant and Venus are really powerfully linked, and that's where the bond is, and that's where the longevity is, and Saturn too, Saturn is gonna tell you whether you're gonna have longevity in a relationship or not.
00:25:44
Speaker
So, Sun Sun doesn't touch any of it and you don't even know like a person could have a Sun you know some people don't even have a strong Sun placement sometimes the Sun's buried in the 12th or sometimes the Sun is conjunct Neptune or it's conjunct Pluto and Earth it's If it's not even aspect, if it's weakened and in some way or another, you know, maybe there's other planets that are stronger in the chart or other placements in the chart that are stronger than the sun. Maybe the moon is a powerful like placement and what that moon needs to feel bonded and connected requires something so much different than the sun could ever speak to. Making sense? That makes total sense. And it's interesting to say about Saturn because I know an individual
00:26:33
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that has a lot of Scorpio, a lot of Aquarius, and I have a lot of Scorpio, but they have Saturn and Virgo. So is that what you're talking about? Or that could be a long... a Long friendship or long build. Yes, Saturn is you know, Saturn is the Lord of time because I'm a Virgo Sun I don't should say I'm a Virgo Sun Some astrologers will say that like Saturn some contacts are tricky, you know, you want some Saturn concept but If you want a relationship to last you need Saturn in there some way or another because Saturn is commitment as long-term it's
00:27:10
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it's ah It's longevity, it's the lord of time and karma, so like, Saturn is really where you look to see whether something has the potential to last, right? And stand the test of time, which is Saturn.
00:27:24
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um But with Saturn on the Sun, it's tricky because the Sun is your inner light. in And how you experience Saturn, this is where it depends on you and your chart. If you don't have a sense of security or stability in your life, maybe the Saturn person brings that stability and security. And maybe they lay a strong foundation so that your light can really shine and it feels good.
00:27:49
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But maybe another person has a strong light and a strong sun and that Saturn person trying maybe they feel like the Saturn person is trying to block them or contain their light in some way or like not let their light through. So Saturn-Sun-Compatibility is tricky. Is that making sense? like Sometimes Saturn can block. It makes sense. but how that But the Sun person might want that security and stability, or the Sun person might just want to shine their light and get the Saturn person out of their way so they can do it. And that's where like the full chart comes in. And that's where sessions come in. It's like, how are you experiencing Saturn on your Sun in this relationship? And Sun-Sun-Compatibility doesn't even touch that shit, right?
00:28:29
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Like, oh, right, right. It's true. Gemini goes great. Yeah, sure. Gemini goes great with Libra and Gemini goes great with Aquarius. But what if that Gemini has a cancer mood and they want someone who has strong water placements, they want that empathy and that compassion? Well, the Gemini sun's not going to speak to that. So I just think the sun's high in compatibility is total bullshit. That's why I really enjoyed one of the relationship readings that you did for me.
00:28:56
Speaker
Right, because we did mine and it was very intricate and we we actually, I've been meaning to to dive back into that, to learn more of this yeah about the rest rest of it. But I'd noticed that from the one or two relationship readings that I did have through you, that expanded more on what I was seeing and i observing than just the basic alignment. Yeah, things you're not going to get from Sun Sign.
00:29:20
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compatibility articles. I mean, you really, if you want to understand relationships, I mean, the moon to me is really like the beef of a relationship. Venus too. I mean, Venus is the planet relationships, you know, but it's not just that it's values and it's money, right? And so relationships are a direct, that they're directly correlated to our values. What do we want in a person? What do we want in life? The people we choose directly correspond to what we value, right?
00:29:49
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And so if we understand our values, we understand how that plays out in relationships and understand what other people value. And depending on what other people value, they put their we put our money towards what we value and we pick people based on what we value, right? So the Sun sign compatibility isn't touching that shit either.
00:30:07
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but
00:30:10
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ah so No, and it's interesting, Sarah. We did a, not a and compatibility reading, but I've told you about people on me. You and I talked often, and I had met a Taurus with a Saturn and Virgo, and you said something about it being a lasting friendship, but I just had to kick him to the curb because it just was not jiving for me. And that's where, like you said, you have to look at everything as at a person. You know, how do you want to build it? Which way do you want to build it? And, or I think the other thing is too,
00:30:40
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Like you're saying about the energy of the person being involved, the sign being involved, I think it's, are the people involved that you're picking? Yeah, and there's the other thing too, is that the chart isn't even the whole person. The whole person is, you know, a person is a product of their environment growing up and what they experienced growing up and, you know, what were their formative years like and how are they experiencing that chart? You know, you can have people with,
00:31:06
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a very similar chart who grow up in a different environment and that the way that chart plays out is going to be different. So that's why I don't I'm careful about leading with the chart. You kind of want it's a balance between letting the person tell you their story are and then bring the chart in to compliment what you're already seeing.
00:31:27
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Does that make sense? Yes. We're more than our blueprint, right? So like when I look at a chart, I think, OK, here's a blueprint. i I imagine that there's a story with certain themes. But the story, it's it's still nuanced. that the person And there's a story. and then the But the person isn't just telling you a story. They're telling you their own experience of their chart, how they're living their chart. So like you really just want to understand What made, like, where is that person in their maturity and development? You know, is the person living the best version of that chart? Are they still working on, like, the wounded parts of that chart? You know, like, where are they in the healing process? And that would give you a sense of how to work with the chart as well. So the chart is a chart, but you really, like, need to consult the person on their journey, because they're the expert of how they're living that chart. Go ahead. Does that make sense?
00:32:22
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like can you get a it gets it i can't talk but Can you give examples of the light and shadow of of each line and what to look for? Because you and I have talked like and you you and i talk about the dark side of the Scorpio moon and I don't think I'm a dark Scorpio moon. yeah as' that's now no so I don't think I'm a vicious Scorpio man. I can they but I'm like it like that night You don't go too deep into that like you you're definitely like the evil I was just Scorpio. Thank you. Oh my god. Yeah, I mean Scorpio is And they're also, you know, they're also the Eagle as well. So, you know Scorpio
00:33:01
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can dive really deep into the depths and the darkness that's what they do but the highest version of Scorpio will rise up after the dark you know and come up and kind of get an eagle eye view and so but it takes Scorpio forget where I read this Scorpio really needs to be sick of their own bullshit if they before they rise up above it that's true when I get over myself I get that's when I get well and that's when I get move forward but yeah if you could give us if you could give us examples because I think people You know, like I've heard clients of mine say they're dark this or they're dark that or they're in their shadow. And I don't think they know what they're talking about. yeah Like a lot of times because I don't see them as dark or what
00:33:41
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where I just think they're going through trials and tribulations of normal people. you know Well, I think it's important to understand what shadow even means. Shadow is just an imbalance. right And so when we're in the light, we're in balance. And shadow is just an excess. It's either it's an imbalance. It's either too much or too little of something. So that's what we're dealing with when we're doing shadow. And also when people say shadow work, you know they're to me, it's like they're They're exploring their 12 house shit. So if you're doing shadow work to me, you are in your basement, in your attic, in your closet. You're digging up old shit that you buried that's real deep. And it's, you know, my ayahuasca, my medicine man, my coroderu says that when you drink medicine, imagine in your house, in your basement, you have dead bodies in the basement and the freezer
00:34:33
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the freezer broke. So now all those bodies are melting and it's starting to stink. And so the medicine is there to get all those dead bodies out of the basement, out of the house. Right. So like, nice. Right. And so I guess the whole point, that's a visual, that's like shadow work. You know what I mean? Like you're getting that old rotting shit out of the basement and you're getting it out. Right. That's how I, does that make sense?
00:34:58
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It makes total sense, yeah, yeah. But that's a nice way to describe it because like I said, 12,000 energy, that would make perfect sense because I think people, I think anytime somebody goes through a crisis, they think they're doing shadow work and that's not necessarily true. Like life is difficult just to be life, you know, just to live it.
00:35:16
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I mean, I guess in a crisis, shadow work might even be inevitable because what happens in crisis is we fall back onto, they say you fall back onto your moon. Like that the moon kind of speaks to how you react when you're overwhelmed. And so in crisis, when you're overwhelmed, you kind of go into like an older pattern, like an older inner child pattern. That's not the best version of you.
00:35:44
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And so you kind of fall back on old patterns, which speaks to the moon in your chart. And so when you're in crisis and you're dealing with that, you're kind of revisiting some old shit and some old reaction patterns. And if you really want to examine and change it, you know, so crisis will bring up like old ways of responding and reacting. And then if you want to examine if it works or not or change it, that would be a good time to do it. So yeah, I guess crisis is like an opportunity to do shadow work, but then it's your choice if you're going to actually do it or not. That makes sense.
00:36:14
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Yeah, I agree. I think think people, a lot of times, they ignore a lot and bury it for as long as they can. Right. Totally. And crisis is a great opportunity to, like, examine. If you're curious and if you're up for it, it's painful. Growing hurts, okay? I just believe when people talk about growth, I'm like, yo, if you're not hurting, you're not growing. I don't want to hear it, you know?
00:36:37
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don't speaking to your That's your Capricorn moon growth like I Need to hear a bit of pain in your voice if you're not suffering a little bit you're bullshitting me I don't want to hear it um people to suffering, you know oh um my god Yeah, but if you could give examples yeah of like each each Sun sign just to people cuz like what's an involved Aries versus a temper tantrum areas which people say they're temper tantrums all the time oh god yeah aries So like the shadow side of Aries is impulsive. It's reckless It can be destructive um You know, we're talking about tempers a lot of yelling um It can be you know, not it can just pick and wrong fights, right?
00:37:21
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um I mean, you give me an example of some bad Aries qualities. I'm sure you guys have some. Oh my God. what's a good What's the light of Aries? Just initiation and leadership? Yeah, I would say leadership, passion, fighting the good fight, knowing how to picking the right ball. Passion? Yeah. So like there's theres you know aggression and then there's passion, right and so right? So like passion is like a friendlier form of aggression.
00:37:50
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yeah um But if you, so Aries, what they can do is when they're in when they're in their highest self, I wanna say that they're leaders and they are aware of their anger and they're willing to be accountable for their anger and they're willing to repair any path of destruction that their tempers might leave. So it's like the highers the higher version of Aries is like,
00:38:22
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wanting to be a little bit more accountable and wanting to be, I guess, if okay, Aries and their lowest self is like a fire that's not contained. It's, you know, so it's like a wildfire, you know, how the wildfires are happening. That's Aries at its worst. I'd say Aries at his best is a warm campfire that's safely contained. Nice. Good example. Everyone can stand around and be warm and be like brightened by the fire and no one and nothing gets hurt.
00:38:53
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Does that make sense? Nice. What about, yeah, in perfect sense. What about Taurus's? Taurus, the lower expression of Taurus is, I would say, indulging and just kind of like sensual, I don't wanna say sensual, maybe sensual gluttony. Taurus will,
00:39:16
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they kind of like to, let's see, the lowest, lower version of Taurus is kind of being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn.
00:39:28
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um right And just kind of digging in their heels and just kind of blindly digging in their heels and refusing to move in any way. um I've seen that. I've witnessed that with Taurus. I've had that experience.
00:39:46
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I'm not doing this and I'm not doing that and I'm not doing this and I'm waiting on that and nothing happens. right So they'll just continue to kind of push back and dig your heels in further and further.
00:39:57
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um
00:40:00
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So yeah, the lower expression of Taurus is probably that stubbornness and probably just like overly indulging in their physical senses and like maybe so spending too much for the sake of physical comfort. Taurus, the lower side of Taurus might overemphasize physical comfort and at the expense of like their health, right? Or their relationships. But I'd say a higher expression Taurus would balance comfort,
00:40:29
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with discomfort you know like a higher Taurus might be willing to um and Taurus isn't really exactly known for compromise um let's say like because Taurus is very relationship oriented and very commitment oriented um you know they do finish what they start um and they can be generous and they can be very reliable. Like Taurus is very much known for being a stable, solid, reliable rock. So when Taurus is good, I think they can balance their physical, sensual pleasure without without being too gluttonous with it. um And for the rest of the Zodiac, they are the solid, stable rock that the rest of the Zodiac leans on and relies on. That's sharp. Yeah. Yeah, especially Taurus.
00:41:20
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and jevanni sevenvan eyes Gemini's... Well, Gemini's... After you said Gemini's get a bad rap. I do. They do get a bad rap. um Like I said, because Gemini's are, you know, they're they have a reputation for being like two-faced or duplicitous and saying one thing and doing the other. And it recently came to me that we're not two-faced or duplicitous. they really Things really change very fast for a Gemini.
00:41:49
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like they're just in this They're just in this reality where it's just changing and it's moving and the landscape's changing and what we're doing is changing as a result. and so I'd say that the lower side of Gemini is that they're moving and changing so quickly, they can't really keep up with themselves and they can't really get grounded or they can't really like create anything solid or they're or they're scattered and too thin.
00:42:12
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um a lot of doing, a lot of not just saying what they're gonna do or not doing what they're gonna say. um But I'd say like the higher version of Gemini is the ability to multitask and see things through in the multitask. And see, Gemini can also be known, they're not very warm.
00:42:36
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You know, you're not gonna get like a, you're not gonna get like a soothing, comforting hug from a Gemini. You're not gonna like baby you at all. um because there're No, they don't. Any Gemini I know is very cerebral in how they deal with anything. I had very close friends that I lived with. She had a cancer moon, so she's very lovely like loving and really she has a really beautiful heart. She's super loving, but her Gemini son is very much like, all right, you know get it together, dry those eyes, get on your feet, let's keep moving, let's go. and so
00:43:10
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The Gemini doesn't indulge too much of the emotional side of people. So Gemini, you don't look to a Gemini if you want emotional comfort. I would say if anything, Gemini is gonna tell you a really funny joke. They'll tell you something really interesting and fascinating.
00:43:26
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Um, but they're not going to necessarily hold you while you cry. Um, that's just, you know, its that's true. that's True. Kind of know your audience with the Zodiac. I know what they have to offer and what they don't. And so when you understand that, you don't, there's no reason to be offended. Like, okay, if I really need a hug, I'm not going to go to a Gemini. I'm probably going to go to cancer for that hug or is someone. would True. True. Um, so yeah, so Gemini I'd say at their worst is extremely, um,
00:43:57
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cold and emotionless, but Gemini's, you know, they do feel... I'd say if you really want to capture a Gemini's attention, you need to be intellectually stimulating in some way. You got to tell them something that they've never heard before. um But the higher expression of Gemini, I would say, is intellectual,
00:44:17
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very like, very much, very intelligent and is full of information and is very very much moved by travel and communication.
00:44:29
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um Gosh Gemini is up. They also get a bad rap because you never know if you're going to hear back from them or not. You never know if they're going to ask you. Now is it true the Cancers are whiny? Well okay a Cancer is whiny if they're not getting their emotional needs met. So a cancer, like okay so a cancer, a wounded cancer comes from ah a broken family or maybe lost a parent or maybe has an estranged parent or a distant parent. A cancer without a parent's love is a wounded broken cancer and they will cry a lot.
00:45:15
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And I'm sorry, and I'm not talking shit on cancer. like It's very legit cancer is ruled by the moon and so and and so so Gemini real quick is ruled by Mercury and Mercury in mythology was neither male nor female and Mercury can move right, right? He was the only the only God who could go to Olympus and earth and to the underworld He was the only God that could travel to all the different realms. No other God can do that and ah that's wild i didn't know yeah And so when you understand that Mercury is androgynous and moves through all the all the realms that other gods don't, you understand that Mercury is like
00:45:53
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He's not a male nor a female and he's just all he's just he's got places to go and he's got shit to do and he's got a function of her form. And like that's kind of how Gemini is. And so Gemini, you either keep up or you just you know you just say, bye, see you later. yeah Talk to you soon. And it is true when you say, like ah a lot of the cancers I know have family issues.
00:46:14
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and There's always a parent missing or something, a parent deceased or something strange. It is as long as it can odd. I think it's odd. Yeah, as long as a cancer has one really good parent in their lives and they feel the love of a good parent, that will hopefully give them what they need to feel like fulfilled and content to be their true self. But if you have a cancer you have a cancer child that's an orphan,
00:46:39
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That's really tough. I mean, if you have a Gemini kid that's an orphan, they were probably going to be fine. you know like they They'll roll with it. They'll be like, yeah, I don't need anyone. you know But a cancer is ruled by the moon, and moon is mother. you know like You just literally take out an O and replace the N with an M, and you have mom, like moon and mom, or this. Oh, that's interesting.
00:47:02
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Yeah. What about the Leos? What's a negative Leo? Is it vanity? Would it be narcissism? so Yeah, that would be the downside of Leo. But really quick, when a cancer is doing their best, when a cancer is their best, they're actually very nurturing and very loving. And cancers at their best love to feed people and cook for people. They're all about nurturing and being nurtured. But when a cancer is not nurtured, um usually they'll kind of be stuck in some sort of childish phase where they're looking to be parented in some way. If a cancer wasn't parented properly, they will continue as adults looking for someone to parent them. And I'm not even trying to talk shit, like that's legit, like a cancer really needs them. No, no, no. And the same thing like I was thinking about Leo. I would think Leo, the shadow would be vanity leo or or narcissism. Leo thrives on attention. Leo needs an audience. And like, if we're if we're kind of,
00:48:00
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If we're kind of just being curious and wanting to understand Leo, yes, the downside of Leo is vanity, like the attention seeking, I'm number one, give me the spotlight, everyone pay attention to me. That happens when Leo doesn't really know their worth and they need someone or something outside of them to validate their worth. When the Leo knows their worth and they don't need anyone outside them to validate it, they're more than happy to share the spotlight, they're more than happy to cheer other people on in the spotlight.
00:48:29
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They're just as good being in the audience as they are being in the spotlight. But when a Leo doesn't get the acknowledgement or that attention that they're craving, that's the number one major motive is to get that attention and validation because that's what feeds them. And so Leo is all about self-expression, right? So Leo and Aries are both ego, egos, placements. The Leo is the sun, which is I am the identity.
00:48:54
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and the Aries is the ego that says, I want, this is what I want versus this is what I am. They're both very much ego placements, just different functions of ego. Oh wow, I never looked at it like that. Have you looked at it like that, Danny? No, that was really, she has such good analogies. and you too You do, you do, you really do explain it. The way you explain things is so, it it makes it like kindergarten, it breaks it down. Like it's easy for us who know nothing about this stuff.
00:49:21
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You know, the last conference I went to, I realized that it doesn't matter how good I am at astrology, what matters is if I'm able, it doesn't matter how good I speak this language, what matters is how good I can translate it for people who can't speak it, you know? Yeah, your delivery is received well. oh yeah No, because like I said, I always forget that both Leo and Ares are ego until you said Mars and the Sun. I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, because Mars and the Sun are both ego planets.
00:49:51
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just like Virgo and um Gemini or Mercury, which they say Gemini is the light side of Mercury, which is expression, and Virgo would be the dark side of Mercury, which is practicality and putting things in motion, like putting information in motion. I don't know if I would say Virgo is the dark side of Mercury. It's kind of like a, it's a different function of Mercury, kind of like Taurus and Libra are different functions of Venus, right?
00:50:16
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Um, and so we also have traditional rulers and modern rulers, but I've been leaning more back towards traditional because the modern rulers include, you know, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, and it kind of threw off the whole traditional system. Like, Oh, well, what is Uranus rule? What is Neptune rule? And we're still kind of making sense of these new planets we discovered, but I really think those planets speak to the collective. Right. And so if anything, they're like co-rulers, but they can't, you can't really replace.
00:50:42
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You know, like, so like they say Uranus rules Aquarius, but before that Saturn ruled Aquarius. And that's true. And Aquarius actually has a serious side. Saturn's very serious. if you know They do. I think Aquarius, I think Aquarius are so serious. Saturn used to rule Aquarius before Uranus came along. now but And I don't think they're as rebellious as they're said that they they say they're really rebellious. I don't think so at all. I think it's a blend of free thinking.
00:51:09
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along with structure. Like any aquarium I know really wants structure and really, but wants to do what they want to do the way they think it should be done. But they want that structure. They want stability, but um Virgo's dark and light side. Cause you know, Sarah, we get a bad rap. I don't think we're picky. I don't think we're finicky. I don't think we're high maintenance.
00:51:30
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I don't think we're bitches, I just think we're potentialists. I agree. Okay, so we did but we did the dark side and the light side of Leo, right? Oh, and then a bright side of Leo when they're when they are content and they have what they need, they're very playful, they're very affectionate, they're very silly, they're very childlike. This is Steven's sign, we're missing Steven right now. um So when Steve... Yes, his computer broke down. So like when Leo's... So when every sign has their base needs met, like that's when their best side comes out.
00:52:01
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Right? So the base need for Leo. Okay, so like, what's the base need for an Aries? The base need for an Aries is to satisfy desire. When Aries feels like they can satisfy their desire, then their higher qualities will come up. And like a Taurus, I would say they're The an areas also has to express who they are and what they want. um When the world receives what they want and they get it, that's when they're their best selves. Taurus, when Taurus is comfortable, when Taurus has their base needs for comfort in the physical body, that's when their generosity and their sensuality and their beauty comes out. Gemini, when their need for information and and travel and movement is met, then they're extremely
00:52:50
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intellectual and talkative and ahdo more they they talk more about intelligent ideas. Now I'd say the dark side of Gemini would be like gossiping, right?
00:53:04
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um And maybe spreading false information. Sometimes Gemini, so this is the difference in Gemini and Virgo. I think Virgo is more of a fact checker, whereas Gemini is just an information gatherer. They don't really know if the information is accurate or not, they're just gathering in and whatever. um Okay, and since cancer, so we are in the need of a cancer, when a cancer feels like they have a family that loves them, that they belong to, then they give that nurturing out into the world.
00:53:31
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um When a Leo gets that attention and acknowledgement that they crave, then they give that bright light and warmth and playful, silly, affectionate love to the world. I'd say Virgo and Virgo. What do you think about being a Virgo? What's our base need? What we need, I need order. I need structure. I go crazy when i don't when I don't have a routine or some type of structure. Like I'm talking about like, there's a,
00:53:58
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I like a plan. <unk>s our job to make Like a goal. I like a goal. We need order and chaos. We need, we can't function in chaos. And so we have that we're known as like OCD and like clean freaks, but we, it feels good for us psychologically to operate in an orderly space and in an orderly environment. Um, so I think that when.
00:54:23
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When things are operating in a way that makes sense and is coherent, then like we're we're best in our positions of service, right? So Virgo loves to help and serve. Virgo can't do that if there's too much chaos, right? But when there's order when we actually bring order to chaos, then we're here to help others and help lift people up. Virgo is literally lifted up by helping lift others up. I I do too.
00:54:52
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ha i think every Break it into Capricorns after. Let's see. What's the dark of Capricorn? Oh, Capricorn, yeah. What's the dark and light of Capricorn? Can I do the Libra Scorpio Sag first? and can we Or do you want me to jump together? Oh my god.
00:55:08
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hey um okay so yeah there does say um We also kind of want to unchain Virgo really quickly because Virgo is seen as being so like finicky and persnickety, but really Virgo, the potentializer, right? Like Virgo sees the potential to for everything to be its best and Virgo really wants everything and everyone to be their best. And so that criticism is just Virgo being like, I see your potential. This is how to reach it. And so Virgo just always improving. um
00:55:41
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And I say the dark side of that is that when Virgo isn't isnt isn't feeling good, isn't feeling like there's a natural order of things that the criticism comes out in a very hurtful way.
00:55:54
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But when Virgo feels- No, I agree. I can be vicious and when and malicious. Right. I mean, Virgo is in place and we're thriving in it. Virgo is very much like, I want to help you be better. I'm not going to criticize you. How can I help you? Right? So Virgo criticizes when there's chaos and it's freaking out, but Virgo helps when there's order and it feels good.
00:56:13
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ah Libra wants balance. They need balance. If they don't have balance, um they are not going to make decisions. They're going to be fake. They're going to tell you what you want to hear. They're going to avoid making decisions as much as possible. The reason why Libra avoids making decisions is because they want to weigh all the information and make the best decision. And Libra also hates excluding. Libra wants to include everything. So Libra is all about balance and justice.
00:56:42
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I think that when, and Libra isn't really a fighter, they're a diplomat, but when there is a lack of justice, that's when Libra will fight, which Libra doesn't like to fight. So I think when Libra- I don't think Libra is balanced at all though. I have to tell you, I think they claim they're balanced people. Oh, no, no, no. I don't think they're balanced at all. Every Libra I kind of know is kind of little, what? No, I should say every Libra. Well, they're striving for balance.
00:57:06
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but Yes, I will. But i that like the ones that come to me and sit in front of me, I'm so balanced. I'm like, balanced? Where? yeah Where are you balanced? Like, where? You wouldn't be here if you were so balanced. yeah um I think that they're looking for balance, you know, between like self and other people. Just balance, I guess, between all the polarities, right? Whether it's emotions or logic, whether it's self or other.
00:57:35
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And so I think that when Libra is balanced, they are probably more likely to, Libra is, gosh, they're all about justice and and they they're just diplomatic. I think that when a Libra, go ahead.
00:57:56
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I think they're about their graces. I think when they're balanced, they have grace to them. There's a grace and a refinement that comes through. That's my thought. And they like to mediate, you know, I think they want to help resolve conflict. Right. And so I think that. What was that? I got all that Libra in my chair. I got a ton of stellium.
00:58:18
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of Libra. You're talking about stelliums last time, Danny. I got a stellium of Libra. You know, so like Libra trying to keep the peace. Yeah, they're diplomats and they fight for justice. So I think that when they feel they're in balance, they're willing to jump into into conflict and mediate and they mediate well. But I think that when they're not in balance, they can't handle the conflict and they're not going to have those mediation skills. Right. So without that sense of internal balance,
00:58:48
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they can't do their job as a mediator or a diplomat. make sense? That's true. Even with one of my lead replacements, um I try to resolve, I always tell people I try to do a win-win. Like it's a win-win situation when everybody would be happy, yeah but like understand where the other person is coming from at all times. yeah and we Yeah. I've been told I'm not judgmental for that reason, but I don't think, I do have judgments, don't get me wrong. I could be staunching my feelings.
00:59:13
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But um I think the lever in me gives me the ability to see everybody's perspective. Yeah. And judgment isn't all terrible. I feel like discernment is important. and I think that like sometimes when we're judging, we're actually assessing. And we're just kind of um trying to understand and make sense of what we're dealing with. And so people call that judgment. But I think there's a difference between assessment and judgment, right? See, Danny, you're assessing everybody. Like, judgment is like drawing a conclusion without enough information. But assessing is just gathering information and trying to figure out like what we're dealing with, right? True.
00:59:49
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So, yeah, Libra needs that balance to to perform their function. And when they're not in balance, they will freeze. They'll shut down. They probably won't communicate. They won't make decisions. They'll probably just say what you want them to say. And that's why they have their reputation of being fake because of their two out of balance. yeah Now, everybody's favorite Scorpio.
01:00:12
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Why are Scorpios considered evil and dangerous and dark and murky and stormy, but yet wonderful and sexy and passionate and hot at the same time? Why do everybody, why does everybody loves and hates a Scorpio? I don't, I've yet to mean it, but it's like, ooh, I'm really all about a Scorpio. They're like, ew, I can't stand a Scorpio. It's like the, that push-pull, uh.
01:00:35
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Scorpio, you know, this is, um, The devil incarnate. This is a very different flavor of Mars. Okay. So Mars and Aries is fire. So think of an explosion, right? Like just something explodes and it's over the air. The anger of Aries is a quick explosion. It's done. And then Aries kind of just moves on. It's like, what it's done. We're moving on now. But Aries, but the Scorpio anger.
01:01:05
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It's like a low, it's like a low and slow boil on the stove with a lid on it. And it just keeps boiling low and slow and it stays real hot. You know? I'm excited.
01:01:16
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yeah time like um Like a Scorpio will sit on their anger and they'll sit on it for years. You know, Scorpio is patient with anger. Ares is not patient with their anger. It has to come out, but Scorpio will hold on to anger. And I don't know. I can attest.
01:01:33
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I can attest to that. I have a Scorpio moon and I can stay angry a long time and you won't know I'm angry until I snap. what it' on And I try not to snap. I do snap on people, but I try, I call it, Rosalie used to call it scorping out. Like you sting everybody around you. yeah I tend not to do that, but I have done it. too but um It's only you, Scorpio. The anger is the only your poison. It doesn't really poison anyone else but you, Scorpio. So I'm sorry. It's your poison and it's hurting only you. um But Scorpio has a really powerful lesson to learn, which is letting go of the anger.
01:02:11
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And they won't do it until they're sick of their shit. Whatever takes for whatever it takes for a Scorpio to get sick of suffering and sick of their shit. But once they're done and they're sick of it, that's where the power of a Scorpio comes in. That's where they let go and they transform. Scorpio is made to turn pain into power and is made to go into the deep, dark shit that people are afraid of and to bring it up for the world to see. Scorpio's all about power. Nice.
01:02:36
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Right. So that's it. Scorpio is all Scorpio kind of understands where the power is. Like the question that Scorpio always asks is like, where's the power? Where's the power? And they go right. It's true. Yeah. Right for it. When Scorpio has learned how to let go and release grudges and release anger, Scorpio is a bad ass healer and transformer and empower. But when Scorpio salty and holding a grudge, they're not their best self.
01:03:06
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Oh, I don't know. That was worded so nicely. It worded nicely. They're a ticking time bomb.
01:03:18
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they kind of What about Sagittarius? I don't know too much about Sagittarius. I'm surrounded by a handful of them, but I have Neptune and Sag, so I'm like, I don't know this animal. yeah I got the blurred energy of Sagittarians. I'm like, who are they? What are they about? Why are they here? They're tall. They're long-legged. They're jokesters. Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. So Jupiter, you just think is like... um Jupiter is like the big jolly jovial. Jupiter to me is like Santa Claus. Like, oh, you know, like literally eats too much, laughs too much. Like, it's just, it's just kind of really wants to have a good time. Sagittarius is a really good follow up to Scorpio because Scorpio is deep, dark and heavy and Sagittarius is very light and silly and
01:04:10
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like playful right so Scorpio or Sagittarius is the sign that will crack jokes at very inappropriate times because they want to like they're looking to lighten up the heaviness in the room right and so when shit's real heavy you'll catch a Sagittarius like cracking a super inappropriate joke because they're like whoa let's cut the tension with the knife and let's slap it with a joke and so they and the Sagittarius actually has a reputation for not being very committal and they don't like to be tied down, and they're very much on a quest for truth, so they're travelers, they're long-distance travelers, and they're always trying to understand their truth, so they're always on a spiritual quest of some kind, and Sagittarius is actually really big on honesty and telling the truth. Even though they don't commit, so I'd say, like, the darkest side of a set, they're kind of, they're really, much they're really known for being like the heartbreakers of the zodiac, because they're so much fun,
01:05:04
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and they're like jack of all trades. So Sagittarius is a sign that they'll do something for the first time and they'll be really good at it. Whereas like the rest of us will do something for the first time and we're not as good, but Sagittarius is just so good at everything.
01:05:15
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And it's not even hard for them. It's actually kind of an easy sign to hate. i see sound like We know you're lucky and you're good at everything and everything goes your way. And, you know, and Saj doesn't like to get sad for too long. They're like, okay, cool. I'm done with being sad. I'm moving on. Saj likes to move on. No, I agree with you. My father's a Sagittarius and anything that's heavy here. And they won't dwell.
01:05:37
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Anything is heavy.
01:05:40
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if if you are going to try sit down like like scorpio will holds on to the past never catch a sage holding onto so all about the present and looking forward and so scop and sads were like it just needs some so i mean all the neighbors You have a lot of that, Danny. that's a lot You have a lot of sages in your chart.
01:06:00
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She's just got a lot of sad you're capable. I need to feel that you see her So like a sad like the I'd say the darker side of sad would be Being overly religious and overly preachy um Maybe they thought they already found the truth and they could be forcing in on someone else. You know what I mean? They could be extra. What's the one looking for like evangelical um I understand that. Yeah, I've seen that in Sagittarius. Yeah, they can be. So the darker side of Sag can be like preachy. And know it all? I think they know everything. They have an answer for everything. Right. But the brighter side of Sag is, I would say, um playful, curious, silly, kind of like Leo.
01:06:50
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um
01:06:52
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But more more positive and oh gosh, the bright side of Saj. Saj is so generous, so generous. They just give freely. They don't worry about where it's gonna come from because they're so connected and they're so lucky and they're so trusting of life. Saj trusts life and has no trust issues really. They're perfect because they don't worry about the past and they don't worry about being sad. Even if they are sad and they've raised me sad, they just like, they can't tolerate it.
01:07:25
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So I'd say a Sag is not living its best life as a depressed Sag is a unicorn indeed. He won't catch that lasting and depression. and they just It's too much commitment. They're just not going to commit to that. It is rare it is rare because, ah you know, when my mother passed away, my dad was depressed and grieving and he couldn't stand that he was grieving. Yeah, can't handle it. Like he was sick of himself. He was just like, I need to be happy again. I need to find something to give me happiness and I'm happy. I'm okay, but I need more happiness. and
01:07:57
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for me in my life. Classic textbook Sagittarius. They literally like they cannot stand sadness or upset or heartache. Heartache is hell for a Sag. Don't get me wrong. Heartache is hell for all of us, but a Sag is literally like, Oh my God, it would get it off me. yeah like They just tolerate it. So it's very like never the bright side of a Sag is they're traveling. They're happy. They are open and curious and they're They're learning and they're seeking the truth. But I'd say the Dark Side of Saj thinks they already found the truth and they're forcing on people. And they're being a note on, they're being cocky. So that's kind of the bright side, Dark Side Saj. The Dark Side of Saj. What about Capricorns? Okay, Cap. Capricorns are nice. Danny's sign, Capricorn. Okay, so Capricorns rule by staff. Now when i we have one quick question and before we get to that.
01:08:51
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Is there a difference between male or female or not at all? Like you don't think there's a difference between a Capricorn man and a Capricorn woman or vice versa with any of the sides? Because people say there are. I mean, in our society, we're kind of gender, we're like, we're genderfied, right? Like we're kind of a society kind of encourages women to be a certain way and men to be a certain way. And there's gender roles in our society are very much like enforced and kind of implicitly and play, you know, from children, right? and Women are kind of more encouraged to express and feel emotions, whereas men are encouraged to not, right? And so I feel like the gender roles that are implicitly at work, like while we're growing up in society, I do think that it's different for men and women because of that. Does that make sense? That makes total sense. I just always wanted to know that because they're like, a Capricorn woman is this, a Capricorn man is that. And I'm just like, well,
01:09:49
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give um the fact that like It's harder for men than women to really understand their own feelings and to understand them, let alone express them, because they weren't really encouraged to do that.
01:10:02
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Right. And so a cow my, one of my favorite Capricorn memes is like, remember, like remember to die first before ever telling anyone how you feel.
01:10:14
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Capricorn does not in Scorpio too. Capricorn and Scorpio are probably the two signs that have trust issues and will not show weakness. It is the last thing they will ever do is show weakness.
01:10:26
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Capricorn will never do it, ever. Because Capricorns, the heart of a Capricorn is fear and not being enough. And so Capricorn really struggles with like, how am I ever going to be enough for the world for myself? How am I ever going to do enough, make enough, have enough, give enough, like be enough. The the the struggle of enoughness with Capricorn is so deep, and I know because I have a Capricorn mood. The struggle with with the idea of enough is like the bane of our existence. And so I think when a Capricorn really faces the fear of being and doing and having enough, being good enough, smart enough, strong enough, competent enough, Capricorn is the most competent sign in the Zodiac because they- I know, I think they're like work powerhouses. I think they can do any job. They're so competent. Like you can give a Capricorn a job and they can handle anything. You know why they're so competent?
01:11:22
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because they're so afraid of not being competent. They work and work and work and overcompensate and overcompensate and work harder and harder than any other sign just to feel good enough. Meanwhile, they're the most competent, but all they're trying to do is feel good enough. Meanwhile, they're just really happy, like, oh my God, you're so competent. And Capricorn's like, yeah, but am I good enough? Like, I don't know if I'm good enough. How about now? How about now? And everyone else is like, oh my God, you've been good enough this whole time. But Capricorn, like, never got to know that they were good enough.
01:11:51
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Oh my God. What do you think about that, Danny? You think you think you strive for to be good enough at what you do and things that you do? Yeah, I think I just... got called out okay
01:12:05
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So do we, I know that like, Capricorn's the only thing you hear is like, oh, they're boss, they're bossy and they are they're money makers. And I'm like, is there anything else? So much more. hot I feel like we just work our lives away. That's what at least this is like, no, I do. yeah yeah I do think Capricorn's get, I think out of the zodiac, some of the zodiac signs, I think Capricorn's one that gets overlooked. I do think they get overlooked. It's like kind of like where Virgo's gets stereotyped to being perfectionist.
01:12:34
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I think Capricorns get stereotyped as being workaholics and money makers, and that's all they are. yeah And that's not necessarily true. I know some very warm Capricorn people. Capricorn, it's all about status and accomplishment. right like They want to leave their mark on the world. Having a legacy, leaving a legacy in the world is really important. Capricorn doesn't really give a shit about going to the party. Capricorn is probably going to be the one like serving all the drinks and taking everyone's money and not getting drunk because Capricorn gets more fulfillment out of hard work and reward than just like frivolous pleasure.
01:13:07
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Capricorns just not made for frivolous pleasure. They'd rather be like, you you know, but there there could be like this one saying Capricorns are all different flavors depending on where Venus is and the moon and the Ascendant, right? But understand that Capricorn is ruled by Saturn and Saturn represents fear.
01:13:23
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and Saturn also delays development. So maybe Capricorns as children, maybe their development was delayed in some way. The Capricorn is known for coming into themselves like later in life. They really come into their own. you know It takes a little bit longer for them to come into their own, but once they do, it's so solid and it's so badass and it's so unshakable. They're bosses. saturn Saturn is a bitch. It's Saturn. I will go down saying that.
01:13:53
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Well, you know, you know, Sarah, you and I have talked about Saturn because a mutual acquaintance loves Saturn. I know you and I are like, uh, of course they would. I don't even know who that is, but like, I don't like Saturn. I feel like Saturn, Saturn is like,
01:14:12
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the main teacher that actually wants us to succeed, believe it or not. You know how like there's like an asshole teacher that you really think the teacher has it in for you? But that teacher actually sees your potential and wants you to hit that potential and has no problem being an asshole to push you to get you there.
01:14:30
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Saturn actually really loved it. That was such a good analogy. Yeah. like You know how you have that asshole teacher, but deep down, when you finally succeed, that teacher's like, yeah, I knew it. I knew you had it in, and you're like, fuck you, teacher. But like meanwhile, they were totally like cheering you on the all the time. and they actually they were just yeah So Saturn's just like that. you know It's also like a taskmaster and a slave driver. That's like a dark side of Saturn, would be like a slave master.
01:14:54
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right And so, Capricorn has that inner judge, that slave master that's like, you haven't worked hard enough, is was today even productive enough? What did you even accomplish? That's nothing. Like, Saturn has a way of shrinking all your hard work into nothingness and making you feel like you've done nothing with your time and your existence. chat So, because Saturn, the reason why Capricorn is such a boss is because they are so good at understanding earthly material matters, like the value of time, money, energy, everything in the material world.
01:15:25
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because saturn note Saturn is dense and understands like the material value of everything in the material world and is weighed down by it. It's heavy. Capricorn's heavy. um So Capricorn, the dark side of Capricorn is feeling like they're not enough and they don't do enough and therefore they'll go work their whole lives and they'll never have family or love or fun because they're so they're a slave to that need to feel enough. And when a Capricorn is enough,
01:15:55
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in their heart that they know they're enough, I'd say that they're super successful in business and they actually are able to walk away from work and have fun and have a family and indulge in life that and be able to walk away from the work and understand that life is about has is bigger than work and has more and there's there's other value in life besides status and accomplishment. But it's really about that enoughness. I hope that makes sense. i hope i hit i hope i That makes perfect sense. Yeah. Look, girl, I'm struggling with it. It's my mood. My whole life. My whole life, I'm just like, where is enoughness? Where are you? It's your mood, too, isn't it, Danny? You both have the moon and Capricorn? Oh, gosh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't have a chart on me. Let me see if I... Let me see. I'll look at that one. I sent it in the... I sent it to Jimmy. I did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sent it in the other thing.
01:16:50
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I love it. It looks like an arrow. your man Yup. Your moon's Capricorn. So you double struggle. a son and would you say what you I don't have the degree. I just have the sun and moon. She has the sun, the moon, the no, wait, no notes and I'm Sagittarius. She has the sun and the moon and Capricorn and um Uranus.
01:17:13
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Capricorn is best when they work. Capricorn's happy when they work for themselves because Capricorn knows how to get shit done and what it takes to get shit done. And like they and they don't like they don't really trust other people who do the job right. And so working for other people, Capricorn is just constantly, they're so competent that like anyone else getting involved in their, it's such an insult to like their competence and what they know. Capricorn works so well alone.
01:17:42
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They don't like answering to anyone. Usually the people they're answering to don't fucking get it and they're incompetent too. Like Capricorn, like if you want to be efficient and you want to streamline shit and you want to build something and grow something, like Capricorn's your person. And so Capricorn, I just feel... They're a boss for a reason. They know how to manage. They know they understand the value of resources, like resource management, time management. Capricorn is made for that shit. That's why Capricorn should not be an employee. They really should be employers, in my opinion.
01:18:16
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I agree. I think that about Aquarius too. What do you think about Aquarians? What's their light, their shadow, their in-between? We started talking about a little bit about this early on. I agree about when we signed on. um i hope I hope that was good for you, Danny. I hope that wasn't hope I went a little deeper with that. That was perfect. Okay, awesome. Aquarius. Aquarius loves the masses, loves humanity, but hates people.
01:18:45
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yeah It's true. a I know a lot of Aquarians that don't like people. They love humanity. like They're all about the humanitarian causes. like You'll see them fighting for like humanitarian issues. But like also, they like hate people. But they do love humanity. So they're weird. And Aquarius is ruled by Saturn too. right And Saturn as a planet separates and isolates.
01:19:12
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um Saturn's like the one planet that like won't go to the party. And if they are at a party, they're standing in a corner and they're definitely not having a drink. you know So Saturn is just like so serious.
01:19:25
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saturn if yeah I'm not a fan either. I don't like Saturn either. Yeah, just think of Saturn as the timekeeper. Someone's got to do that job. Someone's got to do the shitty job. And Saturn does the job that no one else wants to do. That's shitty. That's what Capricorns do. They do the shitty work that no one else wants to do and they get it done. And that's what Saturn's job is. And Saturn makes the world go round. Saturn keeps time. We need Saturn. I'm sorry. And we need Capricorns.
01:19:55
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I'm sorry. But like Aquarians, like you said, I think that's interesting. I know a lot of Aquarians that are you're right about the causes of people, but they don't don't like the causes of humanitarianism, but they don't like people. Yeah. And so they need space. um I say that, like, when they have the space they need, they are more likely to participate in humanity.
01:20:24
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But the more, the more that space is impeded upon, the more they're gonna pull back and withdraw from society. Does that make sense? So Aquarius, Aquarius is kind of, kind of like an alien. And Aquarius is kind of sometimes like wonder if they really are human. They don't quite fully feel human.
01:20:52
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And so they don't know what to do with their own humanity because it seems alien to them. So they don't know what to do with their vulnerability. They don't know what to do with their emotions. They kind of just like, ew, humanity. And they just kind of put their own humanity in a place where they don't have to touch it or deal with it. And so when they're too much in the face of other people, other people force them to confront their own humanity and it makes them uncomfortable, which is why you catch them like caring about humanity and humanity is suffering. But when they get too close to their own humanity, they shut down.
01:21:26
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You can't force it on them either. like that's You have to like give them that space so they can like approach their own humanity in a way that feels safe. That makes sense. Aquarius is- It makes total sense. Yeah, they're a strange creature. I'd say the light side of Aquarius is that they feel like their space is respected and they know how to approach their own humanity without feeling like the space they need is gonna be intruded upon.
01:21:55
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And so they're probably more likely to embrace their own humanity in that way. But if they're struggling with their own humanity and their space is being constantly intruded upon, you're not going to get anywhere with them. You're going to get distance. You're going to get ghosted. Aquarius is the sign that will ghost everyone. They're the ones who ghost us all.
01:22:16
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i't What about Pisces? Because they get ah they get a funky rat too. Oh Pisces, I mean I named my dog Pisces. Pisces I think is one of the most misunderstood signs because they're the ones that will, okay so they're ruled by Jupiter and Neptune.
01:22:36
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ah Pisces I think is the reason why humanity has not destroyed itself.
01:22:46
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because humanity is destructive and we end sometimes humanity will inflict pain upon itself in a way it doesn't know how to repair and Pisces I think is the best at repairing because Pisces feels the pain that a lot of other signs and people are too afraid to face and feel and so Pisces are the people that people Pisces is a sign that everyone will tell their life story to and pour their heart to because no one listens like a Pisces. And the way a Pisces listens is so disarming. And so, because Pisces has such an open heart and they feel so deeply and they can't separate themselves from from the world and all of humanity, Pisces is all about that oneness. If someone in the world is suffering, they're suffering too. And so Pisces just merges. Pisces, they just merge with people. and so
01:23:42
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they can't separate their own feelings from what they merged with. And so because Pisces feels so deeply and is so sensitive, they're known for becoming addictive or becoming, they're like the addicts of the zodiac, right? So when things like all Pisces addiction, right? And they associate the two. But what's really happening is Pisces is so sensitive. And sometimes they don't know how to cope with their own sensitivity. And this world is so harsh for them. that they need some kind of escape or some kind of substance to soften the harshness of this world because their capacity for feeling is beyond their ability to cope with. So the lower side of Pisces would be addiction, substance abuse, um and but the higher side of Pisces would be maybe like a spiritual practice or meditation or like a healthy balance between solitude
01:24:30
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and communing with people. And so Pisces is mystical and spiritual. If they can't cope with their sensitivity, they're gonna become addicted to some substance that pulls them out of reality. If they have the strength to handle their sensitivity and reality, and they have a spiritual practice that helps them cope, that's when they continue to show up for the world and be empathic and compassionate in what we need them to be. Does that make sense? Oh my God, that's the most beautiful explanation of Pisces I've ever heard in my life.
01:24:59
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ah that they merge and they feel and they meld with everything? you and they to recover how do they recover from that there's no other sign that has the courage or the balls to do that really True. and so picy True. Because you know, Virgo, we keep our distance.
01:25:14
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Shit on Pisces, but to me it's like it's like talking shit on a toilet dude the toilet helps you man It helps you clear out shit like it serves a really You know like Pisces is doing the work that toilets do that no one else wants to do which is clearing out shit you know feeling things and healing things like you know like if a person tells a Pisces a story and The person can't cry for themselves Pisces will cry for that person And in crying for that person, it gives that person permission to cry for themselves. How healing and powerful is that? That's very healing. Yeah. Oh my God, Sarah. yeah This has just been wonderful. this You're always wonderful. and
01:26:00
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I can't wait to have you back again. And I hope we discuss houses next and get into that a little bit because that's a lot of fun. The houses and the planets and how they all work together, I think is fascinating because ah what lights up and activates every other thing is a good thing. Danny, do you have any questions or comments?
01:26:20
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No, other than your explanations, like I've said before, are just so educational and I think that you explain things so well. Like for me, I know Jimmy and Maya Steven, I think actually even knows way more than I do about astrology, but I just learned so much literally. Like I said before, you should write your book, put all your analogies in the book. Yeah, your analogies aren't great. You do kind of um simplify it, which is really good. It's a lot of astrologers, like I said, they are over the head and some things are detailed, but you know, you,
01:26:54
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things need to be explained and in detail, but you explain it perfectly. And like like I said, Pisces, I've never heard such a beautiful, I've never heard someone speak or Pisces so lovely. well Pisces is a living testimony to how powerful listening is. Sometimes people don't realize that like just listening is so paramount and pivotal and it's such a beautiful, valuable service to the world. And I think it's very, um,
01:27:21
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It's like underrated and underestimated how powerful it is because Pisces will listen. with such an open heart in a way that other signs, other signs will listen, but Pisces really steps into their heart when they're listening and you can feel it, because it will disarm them. And there's it's just, that's their superpower. I named my dog Pisces, I love Pisces. Now when Pisces, when Pisces is at their low point, they have no boundaries and that' that's very destructive. But when Pisces has boundaries,
01:27:54
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they are like they're such a powerful healing force that the world needs really and so I think Pisces are like everybody's friend they're like everybody's buddy any places I've known is they want to be friends with everybody they want everybody to get along and you know they're pretty much like everyone but thank you so much Sarah again Sarah Mendez Sherman If you want to look her up and find her own on our interstellar astrology, you're on Facebook as well. And we can't wait to have you back. And thank you so much. Thank you, everyone, for joining