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S2 E10: Eclipse Season
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Join us as we welcome back our resident astrologer, Sarah Sherman, and dive into how to navigate eclipses and specifically what the September eclipses are opening/shifting for you. If you would like to book a reading with Sarah, please visit: Inner Stellar Astrology
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Introduction and Purpose of 'Spiritually Desperate'
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Welcome to Spiritually Desperate, a podcast dedicated to easing our existential anxieties and helping us uncover the wisdom that lies within. Join spiritual enthusiasts Dani and Maya as we pose life's biggest questions to psychic medium Jimmy Bay.
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We are so grateful to have you here with us. Let's dive in.
Astrological Events of Late 2025 with Sarah
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Hi everyone. Welcome back to spiritually desperate today. We have our resident astrologer back. Sarah's back joining us. We are going to be diving into this last little bit of 2025 talking about eclipse season and what that could mean specifically within your chart.
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So we're so excited to have you back. Sarah, how's everything been going? Has 2025 been as let's just say fun of a year for you as Jimmy, Danny and I, it's seems, feels pretty intense for a lot of people.
Reflections on 2025's Astrological Impact
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It's been action-packed. Yeah. Action-packed. That's a good way of saying it. Oh, yeah. Perfect. Well, it's so good it's so good to have you back here. i think that if you've listened to any of our other episodes, I feel every time we start, it was like, wow, 2025 has just been... And then we just dive into it. So I'm excited to hear what eclipse season means. And to be honest, I know we go through two eclipses or seasons every year, but social media kind of blows them up in a lot of ways. So I don't really understand what eclipse season is kind of, it's kind of like fear mongering around Mercury retrogrades a little bit.
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So i know I'm yeah so happy to have you here to like blow through it and just to be able to give us what it actually means. Um, but before we, but before we dive into that, just want to check in Jimmy, Danny, are we doing, Jimmy? You're smiling. are you doing?
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I'm feeling really good. It's Virgo season and my birthday. So I'm excited. I'm excited for this birthday. I'll be turning 50 in a new decade, a new life, a new me.
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And I cannot wait. I have not enjoyed my forties at all. And I cannot wait to send them on their way.
Understanding Eclipse Season in Astrology
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ye we got We got two Virgos, right? Sarah, you're a Virgo as well.
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Yep. Just turned 43 yesterday. Happy birthday. My Jupiter is Virgo, so you know i I love you and Jimmy then, right? If Jupiter's on your luminary, doesn't mean that basically I'm low-key obsessed.
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that it works? I think that the luminary people end up being more low-key obsessed, actually. But there's a beautiful – I know a lot of people with Jupiter, where your Jupiter sign is is where you attract a lot of friends.
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Like I have another friend with Jupiter in Virgo and all of her friends are Virgos. Yeah. I do. I do really like Virgo energy because it's a because I have strong Pisces energy, which is the opposite. So I like Virgo energy and that I need more of it to keep me grounded.
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yeah Anyway, spiritually, I digress. Danny, how are you doing? I'm doing okay. It's been chaotic this year, I think.
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don't know. Yeah, it's been been more on a lot of twenty twenty five 2025. But they keep saying it's going to settle down, but I don't know when.
Major Planetary Shifts Predicted for 2025
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You know, a lot of astrologers have been talking about 2025 for even since like before 2020.
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so like, because we watch the clock and we know what's happening in the future, like we were talking about Saturn-Pluto conjunction in 2020. We've been talking about that since like 2016 or beforehand. Some astrologers, you know, so like we would talk about 2020 and then we'd be like, wait for 2025. So like we've all been like joking and talking about this stuff for years. So it's here and people are like, oh my gosh.
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And we're like, yeah, been talking about it for a while. So when is going to calm Like 2027 or 2030? What we're thinking? mean, it's never calm, down like twenty twenty seven or twenty thirty what we thinking
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never cause
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I mean, in terms of like major shift, this is a big shift year. There's actually a really cool aspect happening in the sky that's slowly taking shape and it's going to perfect and crystallize in the summer of 27.
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seven That's actually going to be really beautiful. um So I think that this year we kind of need we kind of need all the shift to happen and the dust needs to settle.
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So, you know, it's just kind of... It's just kind of
Eclipses: Long-term Influence or Immediate Change?
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dusty right now. It's just... I mean... Well, like Saturn and... You know, Saturn's been in Pisces. Not for long. Saturn spends like two and a half years in the sign. But Neptune's been in Pisces for like 15 years.
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So... You know, Saturn and Neptune both moved into Aries back in March. And then you had Pluto and Capricorn forever. How long was Pluto and Capricorn for? Since 2008. So...
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so how many years is that? I can't math right now. You're like, like what, 20, like 18 years, right? Yeah. 17 years. So those are big, heavy hitters.
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And, you know, moving out of like water into fire and out of earth into air. And then Uranus went from Taurus into Gemini and Uranus spent seven years in a sign.
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So for these planets, like Neptune spending 15 years in a water sign in Pisces and Pluto spending, well, like 17 years in Aquarius, which is actually Pluto is on a weird wobble. So like on the other side of the Zodiac, it'll spend twice as long, but that's, you know, we have these like heavy, hard hitting, slow moving planets spending over a decade,
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in a water sign and an earth and um an earth sign. And then plus Uranus spending seven years in in an earth sign. So all those planets moving within the course of months, like imagine how big of a deal that is.
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Yeah. Right? Yeah. <unk> And they're all happening in a very short amount of time.
Fate vs. Free Will in Astrology
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Yeah. Right. So for astrologers, we all say how big of a deal it is because usually an outer planet, like one, maybe two outer planets will change signs, but for all of them to change signs in one year and mind you, the elemental shift from earth to air.
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and water to fire, right? Like we're talking passive to active. So yeah we've got generational planets that were kind of passive and introverted moving into very active extroverted energy. So imagine how that's sweeping the collective when we're living it.
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Well, at least we're a little validated in the chaos that we feel this year and it's the dustiness that is. so then, but it sounds like though, with this eclipse happening, you know, in September of 2025, we still have a little bit in terms of,
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things coming our way, but again, eclipses happen every year. so and I know you always like to approach astrology in a more empowering way versus a fear based way, which is why we're obviously really drawn to how you express astrology because so much of social media is very fear based and we have enough of that.
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So yeah can you just give us, yeah. Can you just give us kind of an overview of what's unique about this eclipse and what, why do we care about eclipse season? Hmm. So good. Such a good question.
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So eclipses happen once every six months, right? Because wherever the nodes are, the North node and the South node is where eclipses happen. Right. And so the sun will hit one node at some point in the year. And then six months later, the sun will be on the opposite end and we'll hit the other node.
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And so whenever this, whenever we're in like For example, if you know where the nodes are, you know where the eclipses are. Right. So we know that the nodes are in Virgo and Pisces.
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So this year when the sun is in Virgo and it's Virgo season or when the sun is in Pisces and it's Pisces season, that equals eclipse season. Right. So and eclipses happen in pairs. They don't just happen alone and isolated.
Personal Impact of Upcoming Eclipses on Hosts
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And they allt they're not exclusive, they're part of a larger story. So when you look at an eclipse, you think back to the last eclipse that happened six months ago. And then you go further back and think what happened what happened nine years ago when the nodes were flipped in the same sign?
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And then what happened 18 years ago when the nodes were once again where they are? and so you really kind of like you zoom in and then you zoom out a little bit and then you zoom out even more.
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And so it really kind of, you kind of can get up close to what's happening in the immediate sense, but really kind of see how it fits into a larger part of a bigger picture in the story of your life.
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I hope I'm answering question. So why are eclipses are such a big deal is because in astrology, the node, the nodes, the North node and the South node, that's the axis of fate and destiny, right? So,
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whenever a transiting planet hits it hits the North node in your chart, or whenever the transiting North node hits a planet in your chart, like the hand of fate is like, it's working in your life at that time.
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So just to quit. So as astrologers, what we're doing is we're watching the clock. We're tracking the clock. All the cycles are are measurable and predictable. And by watching the clock, we can understand the quality of time.
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And I, can't i Honestly, I don't even listen to astrology and social media because I can't and ah can't stand how how every transit that happens is a reason to be afraid and like not live your life and and to center your life around you know the idea of what what's good. it's just I am so glad that you agree with like being anti-fearmongering astrology because the whole point is the information is supposed to increase your awareness and the awareness allows you to navigate with more consciousness.
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So to use this tool as a reason to be more afraid than as a reason to be more conscious is so ridiculous to me. So back to the nodes and eclipses. um So when we're talking eclipse, we're talking fate.
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Fate kind of shows up in our life. and changes things in our life. So eclipses bring fate and they bring change and it's, it's destined. Um, and there's always that argument in astrology. Is it fate or is it free will?
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And, um, Same thing with music. There's no right or wrong way to play music. There's a million ways. So there's a million ways to be an astrologer. I personally think it's a combination.
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Some people think free will doesn't exist. You know, certain things in our chart are
Hosts' Personal Developments and Astrology
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going to happen and they're meant to unfold. And we're kind of tied to that. I do think free will ties into our perception and our response to what's happening. We can't necessarily change what's happening, but we can change our perception and our response to it. And that's why I think astrology is so...
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pivotal as um a language and a body of knowledge and an understanding, because if you can change your perception of something, it's the best way. It's the closest you can get to actually changing something you can't change.
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um So let's kind of talk a little bit about what the eclipses are doing. They're in Virgo and Pisces, right? So first eclipse is going to happen on, depending what time zone you're in September 7th and 8th.
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and hate Last year, the lunar eclipse was visible for us, but this year it's happening in the daytime for us. So the other side of the globe is going to get the visibility of the lunar eclipse.
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This lunar eclipse is at 15 degrees Pisces. So anyone with planets at you know, around the 15 degree mark of Virgo Pisces or any sign really, but especially the mutable signs, Gemini Sag, Virgo Pisces, those people are going to be really heavy impacted by this eclipse. And the thing about eclipses is that but it can't if you're expecting something to happen when the eclipse is happening, like that's, it's kind of, nothing's going to happen in that moment. I kind of see it as it's like a, it's like a, it's like a button, right?
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And it's getting detonated. Right. And so it's it's triggered. It's ready to go. Like it's loaded or like the guns loaded. Right. And like it's ready to go. So another whatever next planet comes along and hits that point, that's when the trigger gets pulled. And that's when action and things start to happen and get set in motion.
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So people think like, oh my gosh, the eclipse is happening. Like buckle your seatbelt, close the doors and windows, like, you know, put on your bubble suit, whatever. Nothing's really going to happen during the eclipse, but something, you know, like the curtains have been drawn and like the stage has been set and like it's all shifting. And so is anything, I use this time to look back, right? So this pair of eclipses really,
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belongs to the other set of eclipses that happened six months ago. um And those set eclipses were insane, right? So let's go back to March in Pisces season of this year. Oh my God.
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but The nodes change signs like, Saturn and Neptune moved into Aries. Everything was happening around that last degree of Pisces and that first degree of Aries, which is essentially the last degree of the zodiac and the very beginning of the zodiac. So we're talking endings and beginnings, like a million an exclamation points, right? And so this series of eclipses is a continuation of what happened six months ago.
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So i'm going to throw question out to you guys. What's happened in the last six months in terms of the themes of endings and new beginnings in your life. And how has that played out over the last six months since the eclipses in March? Is that, am I, is that too much?
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No, no. i think I think if I can say um I've cleared out a lot of relationships. I've gotten rid of relationships and friendships, ah things that are no longer serving me, things where I feel like I'm not growing.
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Like even that if it's me that that I just can't find a place for it anymore in my life or or if I can't find a way to resolve it or create a new way for it to grow and expand.
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um But that's basically what's been going on with me. A lot of personal a lot of personal things um I even changed things with my health. I got a new physical therapist, which is really pushing me and motivating me with my walking and trying to use stairs and things like that. They're really working me out.
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um It's just a lot of a lot of personal changes, a lot of health changes, which would, you know, with with these notes would be, um these eclipses would be a change, on a lot of personal changes.
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Yeah. So closed doors and new doors opening. Yes. Wow. What about you ladies? Like any, any doors you close and new doors that opened? I mean, Maya, I'll let Maya speak, but I've no, I've been so stagnant.
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There hasn't been really any movement with anything. Let's check your chart. There might not be much happening with these eclipses in your chart. I want to hear from Maya though. Pulling up your chart, Danny.
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and I'm not sure my I don't want to put you blast, but share whatever. All right. This year has been my year of endings. Beginning of the year started with a long relationship ending. And then my soul dog of 18 and a half years passed in May. what?
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my soulmate dog, Pepper, she passed. Oh my gosh. That's a whole nodal cycle. 18 years, that's a whole cycle of faith. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So she passed and um I've lost some friendships for sure. It's been it's been a the heaviest year of grief I've ever experienced in my life. So definitely lots of endings, a lot of interesting and beautiful beginnings as well but it definitely i have never had to experience like so many layers of grief of so many different aspects at once so oh yeah it's all accelerated
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pria yeah yeah um huh you know danny you've got jupiter in virgo How nice, Danny, your Jupiter is like right on write on us Jimmy's sun.
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That's we're friends. ah For sure, totally. um So this is actually an interesting eclipse for you, Danny, because...
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it's going to be on the 15 degree of Pisces, but the sun is going to be at that 15 degree of Virgo on your Jupiter. So I think it's going to open you up spiritually. I think this eclipse is going to bring about like more of an opening and an expansion of, of your, of your spirit.
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It's okay. If you're skeptical, Capricorns are born skeptical. but Um, that's okay. So basically still stagnant, just spiritually awakening.
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Yeah. um that's been the theme the past four years it's okay oh well look i mean you know there's really nothing else you're in you don't have anything in pisces um yeah okay i'm just looking at your yeah and that's like your seven eight nine wow your midheaven well your midheaven's there but It's in your 10th house, so that's interesting. Something could shift in your career this eclipse. Are you looking to change something in your career? Possibly.
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But that's good to know. Thank you. Are feeling is a change? Are you feeling a change or wanting a change or is something changing your career against your wishes or are you wanting it, I guess?
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There's been a lot of resistance the past six months, but yeah, a little change would be nice. but Yeah, so Virgo and Prices. It's been very saggy. Yeah, so Virgo and Pisces in your chart are in your fourth house and your tenth house. So you've got your personal life, your home life, and you've got your public life, your career life. So the eclipses for you are really impacting both those areas in your life.
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So I don't know if change is being imposed upon you in those areas or if you're like ready for it and wanting it. But the whole thing with change you know, if you resist it, it'll force itself upon you via crisis. So I highly recommend not resisting it.
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Definitely.
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of But, you know, like, you know, i'll I'll back you up. Whatever you do, I'll back you up.
Embracing Change: Resistance vs. Acceptance
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It's fine. Wait, can you elaborate? What do you mean, like, if you resist it?
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I mean, like, you know, change. I can't do more crisis, Sarah. No, like, if change you know, if change is like. it's being brought upon you um then that's life's way of saying that it's time for this change and that it's part of your path because like the whole thing with astrology is about the ripening of time everything in your life ripens at a certain time so and so when change is introduced in your life if you for if you fight it and you resist it and you push against it life will always win life wins against your will i'm so sorry
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And it's the games, the nature of the game we're playing here. And um if you fight the change and you refuse to allow it, life will find a way to force itself upon you. So sometimes what happens with, this is very Uranian too.
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If change is not embraced, change will be, you either, it's like the, you know, If you have to you have to go into the arena and you have to face the beast, you can have a choice of walking in with your head high or getting dragged in, kicking, and screaming, right?
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So if you're getting dragged in, kicking, and screaming, it's essentially a crisis that you're experiencing unless you're walking in with your head high and you're kind of choosing to step into it. So you're going experience a change, but are you going experience it from a place of power from a place of crisis? And that's kind of up to you. Okay.
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Thank you. And how long does this last? This eclipse.
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Eclipse season is essentially two weeks. the open It opens with the full moon eclipse on the 7th or the 8th, depending on where you are in the world. And then... it wraps up with the solar eclipse that's in the last degree of Virgo.
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And that's happening on the 21st for us. So eclipse season is usually two weeks long and they call it, you know, everyone calls it the eclipse portal. Um, but you know, like you step through the portal with the one eclipse and you step through the other side of the portal with the second, once in a while you get eclipses in threes, but usually they come in pairs.
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Um, So yeah, and you know, this also happened for you in your, well, it might've been your third house, ninth house back in March, but essentially the name of the game for this eclipse season for you is your personal home life and your career life. So I don't know if there's any changes or shift to shifts happening like in your home, if you're kind know if you're changing where you live or if you're changing something about your space.
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Um, if you're making any like, don't if you're rearranging anything and if something's changing in your home space or in your career space, but if some change is being brought upon in either one of those areas of your life, I don't know. I guess I would encourage you to kind of step into it from a place of power versus resisting it. You know, that's always so much easier. It's easier to preach that shit than it is to live it.
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So I'm not...
Eclipse Season's Influence on Hosts' Personal Lives
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Yeah. um I want to go to Maya's chart because... It's actually really, it's very personal for you too because you have, Jupiter in Virgo is at 11 degrees. It's pretty close.
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And that Pisces moon, wow. This is a big one for you. Is this, my looking am I looking at Raychart? You got Pisces moon on the ascendant and then Jupiter in Virgo in the seventh? I think my moon's on the degree.
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and eleventh degree Yeah, wow, this is a big one for you, girl. Holy moly. We're talking first house, seventh house, relationship axis. We're talking self versus other. We're talking like, I mean, I mean, this is a big deal. It's not just your moon, Jupiter. It's your ascendant and your descendant, and it's the axis of fate. So we're talking about like, you know.
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like, I mean, the eclipse is happening four degrees from your moon. And then the, so the moon, the full moon is four degrees from your natal moon, which is close to your ascendant. And then the sun on the opposite end is four degrees from your Jupiter. And it's pretty close to your descendant.
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So matters of self and other in relationships, emotional fulfillment, spiritual growth. um I wonder if something is going to open up in you and shift in terms of the way that you,
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Handle your relationships, what you want in a relationship, what you're looking for, what you value. um um don't know if you're going to put people on the chopping block. I don't know. You're laughing. I'm on that chopping block. Yeah. I mean, I think this will be interesting one. I'm very curious to see how this will play out.
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I mean, listen, this is really personal for you and Jimmy because Jimmy's son is one degree from... from the eclipse on the sun side, right? Because this eclipse, this lunar eclipse, okay, so let me clarify this.
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Lunar eclipses happen when there's a full moon, and a full moon means that the sun and the moon are opposite each other, right? So the sun's going to be in Virgo at 15 degrees, the moon's going to be at Pisces 15 degrees, 23 minutes to be specific.
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And then When the new moon happens, which is when the sun and the moon are together in the same sign at the same degree, that's when a solar eclipse happens, right? So solar eclipse happens when the sun and the moon are kissing, holding hands, hugging, whatever.
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Same sign, same degree. Lunar eclipse happens on a full moon, right? So Jimmy's sun at 16 degrees is going to be on on the transiting sun at 15 degrees opposite that moon.
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but it's there on the axis, the nodal axis and the sun and the moon are right there, right? So like what's happening is during the lunar eclipse, the sun is on, hold on, I'm always mixing up, the Virgo, Virgo is a south node and Pisces is the north node, am I right on this?
00:24:42
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Always? Yes. Right, is that right? Because Aries was areas with the north node, last node. Right. the last yeah And the nodes always move backwards. Thank you, Jimmy.
00:24:54
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Yep, you're right. North nodes and Pisces, right? So your sun. So when the sun and the moon are on the north node and the south node, that's when the eclipses are happening. And so if you have a planet that's like on that axis, that axis is really highly charged. So your planet is going to get hit and it's going to feel it.
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And so you're like four degrees away, your moon, but it's a son it's your sun, Jimmy, and it's your moon, Danielle. And that shit's personal. It's really personal. And it's interesting. You know, it's Jimmy's 12th house.
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And it's Maya's first house. So that makes it extra personal for you, Maya. um Jimmy's 12th house, that's really interesting. I feel like it's gonna... You know, 12th house sun kind of behind the scenes.
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It's kind always been a weird thing because the 12th house is above the horizon, so it's visible, but a 12th house sun is still going to be not in the spotlight. It's kind of going to be behind the scenes where people can't really hear or see.
00:25:48
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But on the nodal axis, on the transiting sun, during a full moon lunar eclipse, I mean, that sun is going to be hit. Yeah. So would that be like more inner work?
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in our work like in our soul work, like that would manifest itself and show
Navigating Eclipse Energy and Self-awareness
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itself later. am I right with that thought? Yeah, I mean, it's gonna it's essentially like the beginning, you know, it's not gonna just be this thing that happens and it's over, it's gonna be the start of a process.
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So like, you've got your sun, which is the core part of who you are, it's your core self. And then the moon for you, Maya, is your inner child, it's your heart, it's your your emotional needs.
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emotional needs um And so those the sun and the moon are the most personal planets in the chart. They're the luminaries. So that makes the eclipse very highly personal for you guys.
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I think, you know, Jimmy, the way that you, you know, the core being your, the core, the sun is your inner light, right? And so the way that you shine, your inner light's going to change. The eclipse is going to bring about a change in the way that you shine that inner light.
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And for you, Maya, that moon, I think this eclipse is going to bring about a change in the way that you you parent, the way you parent your heart and your inner child, the way you parent your actual children, um the way that you emotionally nurture and respond to yourself and other people in your life, the way you want your relationships to emotionally nurture you and vice versa.
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So being that it's your moon, which is about emotional nurturing, being that it's on the relationship axis, I mean, in the end, you're the expert and you're the one experiencing these changes. So how that plays out for you something that um I'm curious to hear about. Maybe we can talk about next time. Yeah. I'll rendezvous after this eclipse season and see how things played out. So it seems like, so for anyone curious reading in, we're going to where your Pisces is, where your Virgo is and how, what kind of advice could you give someone going, okay, i have Pisces in this sign and Virgo in this sign.
00:27:55
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what What kind of you would just take the elements of that sign in that house or is there like a, like, is one more about letting go of the themes in that house and one is about embracing or how, how could they navigate? Oh, such a good question. So I think you meant more like Pisces in this house or Virgo, like you're talking about.
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So the South node in Virgo, South node is about releasing and the North node is about embracing. And I try not to, and this happens a lot with astrology and I'm guilty of it too. And I'm,
00:28:25
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trying to move more towards integration instead of dichotomy. So yet when you have an axis, you have dichotomy, you have you have a seesaw, you have two points, you have polarity, right?
00:28:41
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And so if you're looking from a polarity perspective, South Node is releasing and North Node is coming and embracing. So the way I like to look at it In mythology, you know the nodes are the dragon. The north node is the head of the dragon, and the south node is the tail of the dragon.
00:29:00
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The south node points to the past. We've already mastered the south node. It's already been digested and metabolized. We've already absorbed those lessons. there day they're old territory, right? So the dragon has eaten whatever it's eaten, right? And the Southland is basically what the dragon's like pooping out. It's old.
00:29:18
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but And like what but what's going in the dragon's mouth and is getting chewed on that's what's fresh. That's what's happening, right? And so don't want, it's the process of integrating. You don't want to just like leave the South node and go towards the North node. You want to integrate. so you want to bring all the wisdom and what you learned from the South node, letting go of the waste, right?
00:29:40
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that, you know, by-product, and then take that with you as you cue on what's happening in the North node. But essentially the North node is the future and the South nodes, the past. So for whatever's in Virgo is getting let go of, and then whatever's in Pisces is what's being embraced.
00:29:54
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ahead. So as an example, um because my son is in the 12th house and they said that's a hidden house and egos ah are hidden. It's, um, subdued in that house. he because and mean i involved in that house yeah Right.
00:30:07
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so does that mean with this eclipse, with Pisces being the North node, that I could step into my power? Oh, yeah. my And my power for the health, the better health, because I know it's work and it's health and things like that.
00:30:20
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Yeah. I mean, that Pisces in your sixth house, I think is definitely going to bring about like new change and new fresh energy in your sixth house of health, your routines, your your health, your daily habits, your daily routine.
00:30:33
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And the 12th house, you know, being being that your son is on the south node with this eclipse, I think the way you shine your light in the past is going to be done. or I think you're going to be asked to shine your light in a different way. Well, that's what I'm hoping for. Because I think, like i like I said earlier, I've had a hard decade and it's even ending a little rough. Like so but i like I let go a Chunk and things like that. So it's just I'm ready to be a different person.
00:31:01
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I feel like I'm stepping into a new energy where I'm going to be a different person. I don't know what that is yet. I can't foresee what I'm going to turn into, like Superman over here. but Yeah.
00:31:14
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I mean, Eclipse is like a door. You're stepping through a door, right? And it doesn't end when you step through the door. It only begins. So, like, what's on the other side of the door when you step in? That's the beginning of a different journey. So Eclipse is, to me, is just you're stepping through something else.
00:31:29
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And you're turning it. Yeah. Yeah. And these eclipses, because they move and they change year in year, correct? Yeah. so So once this change happens, it's done. It's like it's done what it's done. and You go into the next sign in the next house that it affects things like that. Yeah.
00:31:44
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But the process is set in motion, right? Right. so And so that's a whole other, that that has its own layers and stuff. And that that's where the awareness and you know, kind of paying attention and and go and doing that inner work kind of helps you understand what this process is and why it's marked by this, you know, this event and why it's happening at this time and what the relevance of it happening at this time is, you know, it's timing is everything.
00:32:11
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It's everything. Astrology is really built on that. And so like for you, Maya, You know, your moon is hitting that north node. So like you're being asked to function emotionally in a different way. You're being asked to like step into a different emotional future.
Astrology's Influence on Motherhood
00:32:26
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Which is, you know, the life is going to ask you to operate emotionally like in a different way, it's going to ask you to kind of change and step into the North node essentially fate.
00:32:39
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And it's also what's beyond our comfort zone. It's outside our comfort zone. So that North zone is going to push you emotionally into a place of discomfort and growth. And because it's on um on Maya's moon, if I'm correct with this, and it's Pisces energy, does that mean it's dream fulfillment, which fulfillment, because Pisces is about dreams and wishes and hopes and desires.
00:33:01
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So it's more of a nurturing, more loving, more- um More empathy. Not like she needs more empathy. mean, I don't know. I mean, not like, I mean, how much more empathy- with herself, with herself.
00:33:13
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With herself. Oh, yeah. Where I'm going to step into more whoever i who I am as a whole. Oh, yeah. I mean, hi yes. So the sun is about your inner light and the moon is about, so, so interesting. The luminaries are so deep and they're so powerful in a different way.
00:33:31
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The sun is your inner light. It's the center and core of who you are. Whereas the moon is the oldest part of who you are. And it's your memory of being inside the mother. And it's your memory of being connected to the mother and being nurtured by the mother and then separating from that mother and internalizing the imprint of the nurturing you received and then taking that imprint and moving forward with it.
00:33:52
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So you see how they're both very deep in a different way? yes Yeah. It's a little heavy, but it makes sense. And it it's, so but it's going to be, it sounds like it's going to be challenging yet exciting.
00:34:05
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Yeah. It's going to be, it might be a little uncomfortable, but I feel like discomfort's a sign that you're on the right path to growth and evolution because the nodes are about evolving. That's really what it's about. So as long as you're evolving, you know, that's really the best you can be doing. So with the lunar eclipse in Pisces, we're talking about psychic sensitivity, spiritual instincts,
00:34:27
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um you know, an enhanced intuition. um You know, I mean, this is Pisces moon life. None of this is new to you, Maya. Everything's new to me. I don't have anything in Pisces. Dang, me neither. I actually don't.
00:34:43
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flipping love Pisces. My dog's named Pisces. I'm obsessed with Pisces. i've I've said it before. I'll say it again. You are our emotional support animal. Like you are the emotional support of humanity. Without Pisces, we would not have made it this far because your empathy, your tenderness, your compassion, your, your open heart, the way you listen, ah no one, no one disarms people like Pisces do. Like the the kindness of a Pisces will melt and disarm like the coldest and the most guarded of people.
00:35:15
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So we need you. We need Pisces to have to like nurture that depth and that sensitivity. It's actually way more important for the collective than we all might understand or realize.
00:35:27
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Oh, that's sweet. Thank you. So I will definitely work on that emotional component. Well, we'll see. I mean, lots of shifts have definitely been happening because of so many external things that are happening. so really the only thing I can focus on is is that internal, right? That's definitely been the biggest battle. So hopefully I see that. Yeah, but don't you think that you've already tried to work on, like we've talked about it, right?
00:35:50
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Changing emotional. Yeah, definitely. ah So she's right on point. She is. Wait, what we talk about? Just like the shifts internally of how I view things, how I view myself, how I view situation, how I come across, my emotional reactivity. yeah The approach. yeah How I want to show up in the world. Yeah. And the approach of it.
00:36:13
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um So Danny's been coaching me through that. see and so time I'm just stagnant over here while y'all move on.
00:36:24
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Live your life. think i like Like I said, I have With my son, i think I'm becoming more convicted in who I am Yeah. Like I've never been. And it's a weird, it's a weird energy because I'm not wait for once Sarah. I'm not wavering. Not that I'm wishy-washy, but i spent most of my early life trying to please people. My people please her a little bit. And now I'm just like, forget it. This is what I think you got to go.
00:36:51
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and if you can't meet me on my level or you can't come up with the resolution, I'm out. Oh, heck yeah. It's about time. Yeah. yeah It's, you know, I think this could be an ego strengthening for you because the ego gets dissolved in the 12th house and is very much a martyr and self-sacrificing person that, and this is such a, like i said, I want to start a movement, like free the 12th house son because 12th house son is so selfless and giving to other people that people just assume that like, this is who they are, this selfless person.
00:37:22
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And it's like the 12th house son, believe it or not, has their own wishes and hopes and dreams and longings for fulfillment, but people just don't think the 12th house son is a human. They just see them as as this like weird, like demi-saintly, like transcendent human, but they are just as human as anyone else.
00:37:42
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And for some reason, they're just invisible to people because they're so selfless. And so I would love for your ego. I want to see your ego be strengthened by this eclipse so that you're more assertive of who you are and that people can see you and hear you more clearly because that's false house sun.
00:37:56
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You know, it's, it gets ignored and silenced and, and like misunderstood. And I just, I'm sick of that for you. I'm sick of it for me too. And and you know, it's funny. It is funny what you're talking of. i've I've experienced that when I do speak up, when I have spoken up before in the past, people think I'm being selfish.
00:38:15
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And I don't think I'm being, I think I take a lot and you know, and I'm flex, I'm very ah flexible with people. And I think I'm very, you know, try to find the middle ground, but the minute I start to stand my ground, and Oh, you're being selfish. Oh, you're being this way. Right. Because people are resist. People are very used to you being that martyr and that selfless self-sacrificing people pleaser. So God forbid you step into some self energy, everyone resists.
00:38:40
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Right. Right. A little bit of selfishness for a 12 house sign is some damn good medicine. I'm all for it. And i think um I think I've mastered my 12th house song very well. I really think I've got a good grip on it. And, you know, i I do wish it would move houses, like, magically.
00:38:58
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have to relocate if you want to do that. Well, we might work on that. but i I really love that, Maya, too, like, the emotional work that you're doing, like, your emotional presence is going change. This eclipse is bringing about a change in the way that you – present yourself to the world emotionally, the emotional presence you bring to people and places that you inhabit and relationships that you
Astrology's Role in Self-perception and Relationships
00:39:21
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inhabit. The call to change is now and you're already rising to it which sounds like it. So it's interesting that we're already doing the chart and the transits without realizing we're doing it. We already know soul level what's ripening and what's calling us to action in terms of our growth. So it's, it's just kind of reaffirms the journey you're already on, which is kind of fun. That's why astrology to me is really fun.
00:39:43
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Because doing the work. we need a That's why we need a Sarah to tell us that we're valid that we're doing the work. And Maya, I can say you are shifting on an emotional level majorly in a very good way.
00:39:56
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And I think a lot of your turmoil of up and down is leaning into that energy and learning how to accept that energy learning how to get a grasp around it. And I think when having gone through a lot of emotional ups and downs lately, ah when you do have that shift, it's very hard to kind of gauge what Because it is kind of like what Sarah's saying. You're letting go of what doesn't work for you You're stepping into what does work for you, but you're not even sure it works for you. You're like, oh, this might be me. And I don't know if I like that. Like she said, it's very uncomfortable.
00:40:25
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And yeah I think you're doing tremendous. I think it's tremendous work and I can then do and keep it up and keep that voice. It's your voice it's your inner voice. It's kind of being caught between an old skin and a new skin, right? So you can kind of almost like,
00:40:40
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like float above a situation and be like, wow, old Maya would have like i felt this, but like new Maya feels this. Old Maya would have said that, but new Maya wants to say this. And so you kind of lead with a different part of yourself emotionally and you can kind of see the split between what old emotional reactive Maya would have done, but what new emotional responsive Maya does.
00:41:02
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And so it's kind of, it's almost going to be trippy for you. Yeah. That'd be wild because yes, I'm a very, been a very like strong way in my emotional reactivity or how I show up for so long. So it'll be to see. Um, thanks guys for the confidence. I mean, I'm interested to see when we all rendezvous, um, next eclipse season to see how things that have shifted.
00:41:29
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and but it'll be interesting. Sarah for you before we like kind of to, before we wrap it up here, cause on the, we're on that 40 minute mark, but, um, Where is it playing out for you?
00:41:41
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oh geez. I'm sorry. I like to look at my chart anymore. I'm like, Oh me cares. Oh, that's so sweet.
00:41:52
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Well, I actually had to pull up my chart right now. Like I know my chart, but I just need the visual. Um, you know, my son's at seven degrees Virgo. So like I'm feeling it.
00:42:05
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um but it's a little bit far away. You know, eight degrees is kind of a wide orb. Some astrologers really think that when you're looking at an orb with eclipses, like two, three degrees is pretty is pretty good. Even four degrees is pushing it. But with a luminary like you, it's legit. Let's see.
00:42:25
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um it going i what
00:42:33
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Oh, okay. Now I know what's happening. So it's in my, the North node's in my fifth house. Duh, how can I slip my, i really so over my chart. But now I realize what's happening. So the North node's been moving through my fifth house. I'm a 42 year old woman. I'm childless by choice.
00:42:50
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And with Saturn and Neptune in my fifth house and the North node moving through my fifth house, I have been really wrestling with the possibility of getting pregnant. Like I went to a doctor. and was like, I'm old, but like I think my window's not totally closed.
00:43:04
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But I can see that when that north node leaves me, I can feel the window opening and closing. like My whole life, I didn't really have a solid partner, or like my family was messed up. I couldn't pick a good partner. There wasn't enough love. There wasn't enough money. There was a million reasons to not have kids. I was like, not in a good time. I'm not bringing a kid into this.
00:43:19
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But now I'm like, My partner's amazing. His family's amazing. He's such a good provider. He's such a good dad. I'm like, oh my God, I could bring a kid into this. And that North node in my fifth house, fifth house is house of children and creativity.
00:43:32
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So, and i've been feeling it this year. Like, am I going to be a mom? Because I'm going to do this, like it's now or never. And so I'm like, I'm feeling this urgency, this like urgency, like, holy crap. Are you going to like, it's like Indiana Jones, you know, like the, like the door is closing. Like, am I going to slide through this door am I just going lay it closed?
00:43:49
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. that's a ze Do it. Do it. I'm all for it. i Do it. I'm like, oh my God. But like, I gotta to like push the head out. Like, oh my God. Maya, do you have any advice? and bad You'd be such a good mom, Sarah.
00:44:03
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For real? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. Oh yeah. Do it. Totally. I'm going to be looking at the moon in the chart and be like, don't cut the cord. Wait for the moon to like move.
00:44:17
Speaker
Oh, wait. I have a question for that then. So when they cut the cord, that's when you're actually like... Well, you know, it's interesting. When that cord gets cut, so the whole point of like... when That birth is ah is like a
Astrology as a Tool for Empowerment
00:44:30
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monumental transformation, right? Because you're like a water-breathing creature, and that cord is your life sustenance.
00:44:36
Speaker
And then when you have that cord, you take your first breath of air. You become an air-breathing mammal, and you are no longer connected to the mother as your source of nurturing, and you're no longer immersed in that fluid. That is a monumental transformation from water creature to air-breathing mammal.
00:44:50
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so So what happened to me when my placenta being detached? I didn't have the cord. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. But you know that I have Pluto in my first house. I have Pluto on the Ascendant. I think it's on the Ascendant. Yes, any planets on the Ascendant will give you some kind of hint as to what the nature of your physical birth was like.
00:45:08
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Yeah, so I think i but I was parachuting out of my mother as a footling breech birth. And I just think that like I was my own person before I got into the world.
00:45:19
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You have Mercury and Pluto um like close to your Ascendant, and Mercury rules your chart because your Ascendant is that like last degree of Virgo, like the last five minutes. So Mercury and Pluto, I can see you being very vocal.
00:45:31
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ah like Well, it's funny. My mom, my mom she wasn't even in the OR. She literally screamed once, and I started coming out. and was dying to I was ready to come.
00:45:43
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I was ready to get here. Anytime Pluto was close to the Ascendant, we're talking about, like, a brush with death, whether it was the child or the mother. But, like, death was... Pisces, stop knocking off my books.
00:45:54
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Sorry. That is an question, though, because, you know, i And when I think about giving birth and astrology and being a mom, I was talking about this with, i reunited with astrology club friends when I went back East, like friends I hadn't seen since before the pandemic.
00:46:13
Speaker
And we talked a lot about like mothers and astrology. And my friend says, the moon in your chart tells you what kind of mother you're going to be. And I'm like, fuck you. That can't be true because my moon is so not happy. Like I, I'm like, you can't tell me that's because I've been doing, i've been working on this moon my whole life.
00:46:30
Speaker
And so to me, You know, and there's no right or wrong. there could Everything could be true on a different layer. like It's true. That moon in my chart does tell me a layer of what kind of mom I could be.
00:46:42
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ah But knowing that gives me awareness so that I can obviously be a better, you know, a higher version of that. But to me, the the moon in the child's chart is going to determine the way that they experience you as a mother.
00:46:55
Speaker
what kind of What kind of imprint you're going to have on them. So I guess both. So to me, I was like, I don't look at my moon as an indicator of what kind of mom I'm going to be. I look at my child's moon right because Right, go ahead.
00:47:08
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Well, you and I had talked about this with my mom being, I'm i'm a Scorpio moon. And I don't think ah my mom was distant with me at all. I don't think she was secretive or detached from me at all.
00:47:21
Speaker
Maybe a little possessive, but my mother was a Taurus. with But I think that's because my mother had a Pisces moon. And I think being a Scorpio moon, and i think and I thank God for this placement,
00:47:36
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I think that's why I'm a light hearted Scorpio moon. I don't think I'm out to murder people unless I'm really mad, allegedly. but ah And even that doesn't last. It really doesn't last. I get mad and I let it go.
00:47:50
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It's your moon Uranus conjunction that lightens up the heaviness of a Scorpio moon. Uranus kind of keeps it fresh, keeps it exciting and electric, and it keeps it moving and changing, right? Oh, nice. Yeah.
00:48:02
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But I don't think my mother was a heavy, I don't think my mother was an emotionally heavy, overbearing, possessive person. She had her moments, but I don't think it was anything that was heavy, like detrimental to me.
00:48:14
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ah see a moon Uranus conjunction tells me that your mom was kind of ahead of her time. Like she was revolutionary and she was kind of, kind of more futuristic and kind of avant garde, like doing things that most other moms weren't doing. She was just, Oh yeah.
00:48:26
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My mom totally was different. yeah Like a really fun, exciting, totally unusual, like very, um, like counterculture mom. Yeah. She was cool. She didn't, she didn't, she mothered us, but she didn't baby us. I don't ever remember my mom really babying us. It was kind of like, um,
00:48:44
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She would play with us very imaginary but her Pisces moon, like, you know, but she wasn't really um smother mother. I didn't have that kind of mother. I didn't have an overbearing mother. Yeah, that's nice. So like what I'm thinking now with like the North Node fifth house, looking at the moon in the chart and the concept of mothering and children and nurturing and like just the maternal and like just the archetype of mother as a goddess, because like when you're a parent, you become a god.
00:49:12
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You're no longer a human. You are now a god. So like to me, I avoided paranoia because was like, well I'm destined to fuck my kid up because I'm like so flawed. I'm such a like a Virgo who's hypervigilant of my flaws. and like I could never be a god to any any impressionable human being. I'll totally mess them up. like you know like Let's just spare everyone that.
00:49:31
Speaker
But now I'm thinking that it's a combination of their moon plus my moon and just mad awareness. like mad and let me tell you, Sarah, The parents that say that usually become the best parents because the ones who actually give a shit before even having children to even think, I don't want to bring my old patterns to mess them up, tend to be the most self-aware and they tend to grow so much from their child and step into that. So I don't think you have anything to worry about.
00:49:59
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The quote unquote bad parents are the ones that don't care, don't want to be self-aware and kind of just step into it thinking, you know, I don't really need to work on myself. Here's this child that I'm going to bring in for me, but you're so aware and you're thinking it's like, you know, pet parents that the ones that are make really good pet parents is you will think like, what, how is this animal going to be when I, once I adopted versus I just want this animal for my own wellbeing. So for that alone, I know you'll be an amazing mother.
00:50:30
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Oh, wow. Thank you for, I'm really, i need that in writing. I need it memorized. I will memorize and send that your way. And I think, I yeah i think, i agree. I think you're going to be a great mom. I think it's going to, do you, what kind of, what sign baby would you want to have?
00:50:44
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If you had your top three, what would be your top three? If you complain Or do you really care? My part, I mean, obviously healthy is number one. i would love a girl, but if I get a boy, I'll totally love and adore him.
00:50:56
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You know, like I, and in the end, I really like, I want, and want the, having a kid is about the kid and not me. And to me, I'm doing this, I'm entertaining it because it's the ultimate growth opportunity of a lifetime. And, know,
00:51:11
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Parenting, I think, is what life on earth is about. and my friend said that to me. She said, I think that being a parent is really what, like, earth life is about. And i think it's I think it's the ultimate way to grow, the ultimate humbling experience.
00:51:23
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yeah And my boyfriend's mom had 11, no, 10 kids, 11 kids. I forget. i think 11. But she basically, I was like, wow, you did a great job raising your kids. And she goes, oh, I didn't raise them. They raised me.
00:51:35
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I was think you come parent in so many different ways on earth, right? Whether that's a human child or a pet child or both. Like I think there's so many different ways. Parenting yourself. There's so many ways. And I think I think this is a beautiful place to wrap it up in the sense that in conclusion for our clips episode, Sarah's going to be
Episode Conclusion and Reflections
00:51:55
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a great mom. If that's the path she decides on.
00:51:59
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And secondly, I think that we got some really nice insights on where to look. So looking at, as she mentioned, the Pisces Virgo axis in your chart, knowing that Virgo is the descendant thing, things you're letting go of. And for, um, that North node in Pisces of things, maybe elements you'll and embrace, obviously it's unique to the chart.
00:52:18
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Um, but yeah, just appreciate you, Sarah. I know i speak for Jimmy and Danny as well, not that I want to speak for you both that we love your, your lens on astrology and again, to keep it more empowering versus feeling like, um, things just throw us for a loop and allowing us to work on things like acceptance and surrender and empowerment.
00:52:39
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So I really appreciate having you on. um yeah. Any last words before we, we close this out and say bye to everybody. Oh, wow. Um, you know, i think that, well, thank you so much for having me and thank you for that encouragement.
00:52:55
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And, um, thank you for appreciating my astrology lens. And, you know, if we're, if you're on, you're scrolling through social media you see some pop astrology that tries to disempower you in some way, just remember that astrology is a tool in your belt and it astrology belongs to you. You don't belong to astrology.
00:53:18
Speaker
So just make sure that the power is where it belongs in a healthy place and you're not giving it to something or someone outside of you where it doesn't belong. That's where really where i want to leave it.
00:53:29
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I love that. That's a great last message. So with that. you so much there. I appreciate it And like, I like to say, know your planets and know your life. ha When you know your planets, you know your life.
00:53:42
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You do. so
00:53:45
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to help you navigate this earth plane. Yes. Yes. I'll take all the help I can get. Same here. That's what I got Sarah. All right, y'all. Sarah and Jimmy, let's be real. And Danny is my coach. So thank you. Thank all of you for being such a great team. Yeah. Thank you, anyone who's listening in. We're excited to bring Sarah back on in the future.
00:54:08
Speaker
Of course, thank Jimmy, Danny, and especially Sarah. And we'll see you all next time. Bye, everyone. Bye. Bye.
00:54:21
Speaker
All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us on today's episode of Spiritually Desperate. If you would like to hear more, please subscribe to the show and feel free to leave us a comment. We would all love to hear your thoughts.
00:54:33
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Have a great day and see you on the next one.