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S1E15: Spiritual Free for All
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Join us in today's episode with Dani, Maya, and Jimmie, along with special guests Steven and CJ, for a fun, flowy community discussion. Topics covered include how to "free fall," discerning between mind and intuition, what to look for in life partners, and aspects of astrological charts.
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00:00:01
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Welcome to Spiritually Desperate, a podcast dedicated to easing our existential anxieties and helping us uncover the wisdom
00:00:22
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Hey, everyone. Welcome to Spiritually Desperate. And today's topic is a spiritual free for all. Talking about different topics, communicating, Questions? Anything. Just a total rap session. I'd like to welcome my co-host, Maya and Danny, special guest, my friend CJ, and other special guest, my cousin Steven. How's everybody feeling? Yay! We're here. We're queer. And, you know, and maybe not. Or maybe they're straight. No I don't know but hello, girl.
00:00:58
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j It's nice to have you back and and Jimmy we have your cousin Steven I know you said he he listens to our podcast a longtime listener, which we always appreciate but ah Tell us a little bit about you know y'all's relationship you know mini goard urge Okay, so yeah, I've been listening since since the beginning Jimmy's my cousin I obviously know them my entire life His gifts have been known amongst the family for a long long time and I was first presented with them. I heard it talked about from my mother and whatnot when I was maybe 12, but I'd never really participated until I was like 15 or 16. Jimmy, if you remember this, it was at one of the Christmas parties, right? You used to take all the family members for short sessions. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, you're right. I got inundated.
00:01:52
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So I started it throughout the years, you know it got more and more, and as my life progressed on my journey, you know I got more and more interested in religion, and then that backed away, but something felt empty, so I went down the spiritual route, and just more and more questions, and Jimmy was always there, and then the more we talked, the more things made sense. So then I started seeing him consulting with him periodically whenever I was looking for some kind of guidance.
00:02:22
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And here we are, freaking 25 years later. And then you guys started this podcast, and I was like, after the first one, thank you. These are the questions I wanted to ask during sessions, but I didn't want to interrupt like the session that I was there for. So yeah, I'm hoping. You have really come a long way. and You really have come a long way. A lot of soul growth.
00:02:45
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Well, people, like I've known him my whole life. like I un meant don't mean that in a disrespectful way. He's become a long way since I've watched you grow up. He's my younger cousin. So I've seen him evolve. What a unique family dynamic, right? Not everyone just has that type, you know, remembering at 12, 15 years old that my cousin, you know, can do these sessions. Steven, did your family, well, overall, in the beginning, how did you feel? Did you go, what? What?
00:03:11
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Can Jimmy do, or was it more so just always a curiosity you had? I've always been pretty open-minded. And many people don't know this, but I was originally raised as like a Jehovah's Witness for a few years. I don't remember much. That i was in my much, much younger years. And an Italian family, so my father's side is Catholic. No religion really sat well with me. And I didn't have words to describe it. And the way I thought of when I was younger was,
00:03:40
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I align more with the way like native Indians and whatnot do, how they, you know, they'll hunt and take a prey, but then they pray over it, you know, thanking it for the sustenance and whatnot, or even to the mountains and sky, like where it's out these West type shit. That resonated with me more than religion did. So that's always been there. And then, ah well, Jimmy's is intermediary. That makes sense to me. well Thank you. That's that's very kind. yeah Yeah, i didn't I didn't think, I always thought your mom was a skeptic and the aunts were a skeptic.
00:04:16
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Because when I would read for them, I got 10,000 questions about, am I sure? Am I sure? Am I sure? Am I sure? So I never, and you know, it's thank you for that compliment and thank you for the feedback because I never got that feedback.
00:04:32
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Yeah, that must be Jimmy. That's probably a little nerve wracking within family, right? Because I know you say you appreciate skeptics, but it's different when you have to deal with that, especially if there's people close to you.
00:04:43
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Yeah, it is it's very different. um You know, sometimes it's frustrating because I think with family, they ah they depend a lot more on my word. You know, they believe in me, but in the same respect, it's kind of like it's expected. So if I'm having an off day or something's not 100 percent, which we don't get 100 percent anyway, it's it's I'm looked at differently. I think that's how I felt anyway. Yeah, even though I never met Steven,
00:05:09
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um I feel like I know, I don't want to say a lot about you, but ah enough that, you know, that over the years, that, you know, ah kind of you you you come up kind of like, found your way into our conversations or, um and stuff. So it's kind of, it's kind of cool. So I feel, it's kind of, kind of, I may have even met you, Steven, I don't remember, man. And ah so, but anyway, I'm surprised you haven't met him, CJ.
00:05:36
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Well, no, no, because Steve, you've usually been, ah steve you've usually been um away and um you know, he serves our country. yeah like and Thank you for your service, Steve. My pleasure. and know So a lot of things that went down family wise, we haven't seen each other, but we go in and out of each other's lives. It's interesting like that.
00:05:58
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It's always nice to be able to pick up like it never left off, right? I have a few friends like that too where we could not see each other for 10 years, but we can get together and it's like nothing. Nothing ever happened, so. You know what I think is interesting is we've grown up and we've both of us gotten older. I think we've gotten closer and there's a different understanding, a different type of relation like I feel like closer to you now than I could when i when you were little and when I was younger.
00:06:23
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You know, it's a different energy. And to kind of be on similar wavelengths, that's nice, especially with family, to kind of have somebody that understands you, or where you're coming from, or at least attempts to understand you. Because some of my family members think I do witchcraft. Some of my family members think I put curses on people. they You know, even growing up, I was the devil. With your Ouija board? I was the devil. Oh my god. You know, Stevie, you spoke of um when you were a Jehovah's Witness, that Your mother and another one of our aunts used to think I was the devil because I had tarot cards at nine years old. And I would read my cousins and everything, like whenever we had get-togethers and everybody would get inside. I remember my mom being, that's which crap? Yes, yes. So the way I see you is I know Jimmy hasn't had the easiest path among the family, but I i also didn't mesh well with a lot of family, not for any negative reasons, just never really connected.
00:07:23
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But for whatever reason, me and Jimmy are just like the communications effortless and easy. Like there's no need to force anything. And to me, as far as I can remember, it's always been that way. Same, it same. I feel that way too. Yeah. It's, it's very, it's very easy going, you know? and And like I said, I think it has a lot to do because, you know, you're spiritually open to things. I'm very spiritually open and there's kind of no judgment.
00:07:47
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And when you find people that are like-mindedness, whether they be in your family, whether they be friends, CJ, I have that with you, it's it creates a different level, a different realm. And you could really go deep with people like that. Yeah, sure. be On an emotional level. I mean, as long as you and I had known each other, Jimmy, we you like you know this might be a ah shock to people that know that. But we don't you and I don't always see eye to eye on everything, right? No. No, we're very different as as friends, as people, yeah.
00:08:16
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And that's the, that's the cool part about it is trying to like, you know, help you understand, you know, or I should say, let's say you, you understood, like meaning that it helping each other understand. Right. Right. To find the middle ground, the common ground. Cause I think that's a big soul lesson for everyone is to find a common ground. You know, you don't have to accept everything that you hear or see or you witness or experience, but if you can respect it and have an appreciation for it.
00:08:46
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and not attached to it. Because if somebody else is going through something and and you can be detached from it but appreciate it, then that's a lot of spiritual growth. That's a lot of soul growth. Yeah, right on. You know, Jimmy, when we were like reflecting a little bit about today, you know, I have a curiosity.
00:09:05
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um I know this is very vague, but ah can you can you explain what free falling is? when it comes up in in your in your messages sometimes, during your readings and so forth. Yes, free falling is my favorite topic, one of them. It's taking leaps of faith. It's really letting go and letting God. It's really trusting yourself and your decisions. It's trusting that even though you're in a period of uncertainty or darkness or unknowingness or confusion, that whatever decision you're making, you're going to land on your feet.
00:09:40
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the The universe's hand, God's hand is going to catch you and raise you up again. And that you're going to be able to be resourceful and that new opportunities and new doors will open up for you. And it really is, it's difficult. It's a difficult soul lesson because you're relying a lot on your faith and your intuition. And like I said, that unknowingness is super, super scary. But um through that and through your faith, it deepens your faith in yourself. It deepens your faith in the universe and God to work with you.
00:10:10
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Wow, right on. I mean, that's cool. I mean, i I just like, you know, like, that's the one thing that I that often resonates with me when I think about like our readings and that you've given me over the years, you know, and trusting it, you know, I feel I'm light years away from where I was when I first started, like, you know, having these conversations with you. And, um you know, and just trust and trusting yourself and, you know,
00:10:37
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Even trusting the Spirit God you know it's like but to come and help helps you help you as well. It's trying to explain that to people. It makes you feel like you're less than. you know and ah yeah It's kind of interesting.
00:10:54
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what's What's interesting about that, like you said, you want to trust in your God, you want to trust in yourself. and I think a lot of people want instant gratification, immediate immediate response, immediate answers. and the universe The Spirit doesn't work that way. And like you said, where you're felt less than, it's more so because when you are deepening your faith and you are trying to stay focused on that track, people have a lot of judgment because they don't understand what you're experiencing and how you're walking through it, how you're navigating it. And, you know, a lot of times what people don't really grasp is it's a lot of trial and error. It's a lot of, um,
00:11:32
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It's a lot of stops and starts. It's a lot of finding your way as you go. And I think a lot of times people have judgment with things they don't understand or don't know. And it's really that, like I said, that is also difficult to grow and evolve into. So you could, you're basically on your own and it goes back to everything I say with almost every podcast. We're here for our own soul growth. We're here to experience things and gather our own information and enlightenment. And it all comes in its own right, its own time.
00:12:03
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Do you think, I think that for me patience is one of my hardest and yet unlearned lessons to go through, right? Like you said, we all want it now, now, now. I know I'm specifically like that because it's always now, now, now. But because it takes so long, do you do you think that makes it that much more difficult to learn the difference between, you know, trusting yourself and I would say trusting your intuition versus it being an imagination.
00:12:31
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right Because that's one of the other things I have a difficulty doing is I've intuition that X, Y, and Z, or am I just imagining that? And I feel like I've gotten a whole lot better, but that causes me to you know wear out my patience. you Did I do this? Well, because you could you get stuck one way, you get stuck in the imagination of it, or or you're intuition, like you're uneven like unbalanced in a way with Well, you're going to have periods of that. You're going to have periods where, like I say, you're very much on the earthly plane and then very much on the spiritual plane. ah um But to are you asking about how to recognize the two of them? What's the difference between your imagination and your intuition? Your imagination would be the word that drives me insane, manifesting. And you're into it would be you manifesting your imagination. Everything starts with a dream, right?
00:13:25
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so your imagination would be you manifesting, your intuition would be you putting in the motion or setting up the plan to put it in the motion. So if you're trying to recognize that, first you get the but idea, and then you bring it to life. And that's what you're that's what you're initially doing with balancing them. It's more so balancing them. Although, like I said, Steve, I do believe you can get ingrained in one or the other, and that does slow the process a little bit.
00:13:52
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you know, or you become the person that you keep doing and doing and doing and manifesting and getting nowhere because there's no time for the universe and spirit to take action or throw you new bones or open doors for you. We we become a society at times where we're spiritually obsessed, where we think that being spiritually balanced is being spiritually in tune at all times and forgetting our humanity and our humanness and actually having the experience as well.
00:14:22
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because that is also your spiritual growth. It's ah it's a bouncing of the two. ah Like I said, being on the earth realm and finding your own spiritual sacred space within. but what i I think what's been happening for me, what I think has been happening for me is one way that I'm deciphering whether it's one or the other is when I see it or when I feel it, whatever you want to use that word, my imagination is very flat. Like you're looking at a screen and It is what it is, it still looks real, but it's flat. Whereas my intuition is more more real, it's more 3D. Does that make sense? I think it's more, do you mean flat that you're you're lacking the inspiration to create? is that where that Is that what you're meaning by that? Or it's just like, it doesn't seem tangible. Not tangible and just dull. You know, not almost a difference if you wanted to compare like TV screens, right? The old school, whatever, like 720 versus like 4K, or even like an actual 3D. Like things that I can,
00:15:20
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No, I've been my intuition that were right, were extremely vivid and clear, whereas my imagination was more, well, to use the word imaginary, but dull and rougher, a little more cloud.
00:15:34
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Well, your imagination, your imagination would be a little bit more, like I said, of the human experience too, because that's the idea that you're cultivating. And that's where you start to create. And the intuition is where, like I said, you start to life, you bring it to life, or you start to wave your little magic wand and get where you want to be. I don't know. Did that answer your question? Yeah. And it's going to be a little dull because it's only a mental image.
00:15:59
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So you're creating it. It's all up here. You know, um when I first started reading, to give you an example of this, ah my my visions per se, even though I'm a very clear audience, weren't as clear. And I learned to to piece them together because you get pieces of things.
00:16:15
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and Stephen Ellis, be the same way for you or anyone. You get pieces of which direction to go and pieces of what is coming for you. And like I said, following that intuition is how you start to put it into motion and bring it to life. But so it is a little dull as an interesting word, but it's still a little dull or flat because it's just the thought process of it. The thought process. Yeah.
00:16:40
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And the balance of that is that we want to create it. We want to co-create it, right? So you want to take the idea and bring it to life. It's kind of like, like I said, we're all magicians. And you've got to get the right spell. You've got to say the right chant. You've got to find the right key to open that door. And that's how you'll bring it into action and bring it to life for yourself. I second guess my intuition all the time.
00:17:03
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i feel And I you remember when spirits said we should actually just keep it light on earth here and we take things so seriously. So I feel when I let's say, quote unquote, read my intuition wrong or I messed up, I feel like my focus right now is to not get so self critical that I got it wrong and just go, oh,
00:17:24
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All right. Well, I guess that it was something different, right? And kind of just move on and keep it light because I feel I was so in my head about, okay, what's my ego and my mind and what is my intuition? And then you can't really recognize either of it at all, right? So just kind of keeping it light and not get so critical if it didn't work out. But I thought, yes, that's my intuition. And then it totally wasn't my intuition, I guess, or maybe it was wrong to just move on. Does that make sense? Because I second guess it all the time. And then I go, well, I guess my intuition just sucks or none of this is real. And you know, spirit isn't real. And this has no meaning like my mind will spiral there. So I have to like, keep it light and keep it fun and realize,
00:18:03
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We're just humans having this experience. I agree. You start to sabotage your intuition. Yes. Well, what happens with that, Maya, too? You brought up a valid point. And we talked about this a little bit before. When you're trying to decipher your intuition and imagination, or is it your mental thoughts or whatever, let go that you're not going to learn and know everything, that you're not supposed to know how it all works.
00:18:30
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That is a spiritual myth. and i But I think in spiritual society, so to speak, you know we're told, oh, we're going to be enlightened. We've got to become enlightened. We've got to be become aware. We've got to become alive and awakened. And we have to have all these signs and symbols and stuff. And that being said, it's not like that. It's kind of just having the experience. Let the experience happen and let it guide you with what you're talking about. It's overthinking it.
00:18:59
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It's overthinking it and then judging it unintentionally. It's a judgment, a self judgment feeling like you're you're you're not valid. You may have had a very small part of that that was valid. But then that small part became an obsession or took you in a different direction or their fear came in or doubt came in and took it into a mental space versus a spiritual space. That makes sense. And what happens What happens when we get mentally clouded and emotionally clouded with intuition, it really blocks us from receiving anything and it creates a a layer and a thick energy of static around us so that you're not going to get the information or it's going to be incorrect because you're only getting pieces or you're just not hearing it at all. It's like I'm desperate for the outcome, right? Quite literally spiritually desperate where I feel like I need to see
00:19:52
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it play out so that I can give myself confirmation, go oh, I am guided, or oh, there is something bigger than me. Oh, and I feel I put way too much expectation on it versus just moving through it with curiosity. And i'm and it's still a huge thing for me. Same with Steven, like patience is not my forte. So I kind of want to see the clear evidence that, oh, this is my guide speaking to me, or oh, this is my intuition speaking, because it helps me feel as if there is this higher purpose or there is the spirit realm is real, right? Because if I don't have that, I sometimes will go, okay, well, then what's the point? So I like what you're saying of just, yeah, just moving through it lighter and there's some validity to it. And it could be both, like both can exist at the same time. It could be valid and I can be overthinking at the same time.
00:20:45
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Right. And listen to the word you just spoke. It's expectation. It's um trusting and having faith that it's a reality for you. so that But that's our human nature, right? Because we question I'm the biggest skeptic going, trust me. That's half of what I see, you know nothing that I hear at all. But like I said, it's it's letting go of that expectation, try not to run your thoughts with it, and try and just let it take its own course. yeah I think people feel like when they're spiritually desperate, that they're trying to um really guide their spiritual gifts, that they're trying to guide their fate or destiny, and all you really have to do is take action. And that action will have a consequence, it'll have an outcome, and or it will be a stepping stone to the outcome.
00:21:34
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There is no ah right or wrong way too. Like you said earlier, you were wrong in thinking your intuition was wrong, not necessarily. It may be something that you weren't supposed to know, or not all of it was something you were supposed to know, and therefore it's creating doubt within yourself.
00:21:51
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The biggest thing is not to doubt yourself. you know As a young medium, I dealt with that. I still i still struggle with that. I still don't think I'm the greatest medium going. i I don't think that I'm the smartest medium, the flyest medium, the lightened medium. I'm not that guy. But you have to learn to um navigate it and and and step into it and just step into what you're good at and build on that. And that's how you start to develop the patterns that show you what's right for you, what's working for you and your own intuitive gifts. Well, I look at it is they always think about the song of like, you know, if you know, you know, right. And or you like i know a lot of Gen Zers like that ah expression to right, you know, you know, you know but it's the truth. It's like, you know, that's like going way back to how Steven started this off, you know, it's like,
00:22:39
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you know, how I can differentiate between it. It's just like, you know, your gut is telling you, you know it. It's like, okay, well, you know that this is real. This is what has to happen. You see the path, right? It's just a matter of like, um trusting it and the freefall like Jimmy was saying about earlier, but throw it back to you, Steven. So my question was, Greg, we're talking about this and then the navigating all that and there's lots of different mechanisms we use, whether it's the thought intuition, etc.
00:23:07
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But the one that I'm still unclear on is the clear audience, right? The hearing part, because like we talked about, I'm having some experiences. So how does that tie in? Can you kind of elaborate on what that is and then how they use it effectively or what it's trying to, how it's trying to communicate with you?
00:23:30
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Well, clear audience usually starts w ringing in the ear. It usually starts like a vibration in the air. It's sort of like tinnitus, but not tinnitus. It's a little buzz in the ear. So your your audience starts to wake up. You'll start to hear voices. ah You may think you're a little schizophrenic. Like I used to think I was a little schizophrenic younger, but ah and then I learned some other things. And then you'll hear your higher self, your intuitive voice, and then you'll hear,
00:23:57
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Hopefully, as it grows, your guides, your messages, your loved ones, things like that. um How do you use Clear Audience? To help you guide you a little bit with that, Stephen, write it down. Write down the message and see if it confirms.
00:24:13
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And that'll help strengthen your intuition. That'll give you the physical and tangible that you'll need. And if it's incorrect or not completely correct, it's getting you in a mode of developing that and trusting it no matter what. Because now you can see it.
00:24:27
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it's It's, you know, being a very clear audience, it's very hard to trust something you're just hearing or listening to. Like I hear spirit a lot. So it took me a long time to decipher my own voice, my own mental dialogue on top of spirit's message.
00:24:46
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So it takes a little bit to to navigate that through, but you'll literally hear your higher self and your higher self will sound like an iota higher than your thought voice or lower than your thought voice. And that's more so your higher self. So in the early stages of that, I have tinnitus. So I'm battling deciphering that with the buzz in your vibration and whatnot. But I've also heard talk about the level and then like the side, which side the the sound is on, right? Does does that have any, right does that have any? I didn't get involved in all that. I just, yeah I think some of that's a little hokey um because I just heard spirit. And usually for me, for me, this is my own gift. I usually hear from my right ear. I usually hear spirit in my right ear. Although I've heard them in my left ear. That's why I said, I think it's a little, yeah.
00:25:43
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I think it's a little like spiritually desperate, like people that try, we're plugging the show, trying to make, um trying to make something, trying to give something or reason or purpose behind it. I think people try to do that. And you know, Steven, to be quite honest, and you know this, I've told you this, and CJ knew this as well, when I started reading poems, I glanced at one palmistry book and I read both in both hands. So instead of trying to figure out what side is the right side of your ear that you should hear spirit in,
00:26:11
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Trust that you're just hearing spiritually. You know, like I said, ah I think a lot of people put a lot of emphasis on the mechanics of being spiritual versus just living. Yeah. It's evolved from, you know, the beats and whatnot into, I have, I don't know whose voice, I can't recognize it, but I've heard voices that have, you know, startled me and I'm not the type to be startled. I've heard my own name called in a house that I'm by myself. What? Really?
00:26:40
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yeah That Steven, I would say would probably be your spirit guide. And if you're meditating, I would see if you can get that information to get some type of signal, whether it's a pattern, a sign, a name, something to start to show you who that person is.
00:26:57
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that's awesome out that's And that might take a while. That might take a while. That should mean God. Um, I was about 35 36 when I, really connected with Leo and really i really knew who my spirit guide was. So it's not something that just comes easily. CJ, I think you with um your guide Abigail, it was one night when you were working, you know. So it comes when it comes, but what you could do is when you meditate, ask them to show themselves to you. Ask them to give you a sign, a message,
00:27:30
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some type of directions so you know who they are. But yes, that's that's definitely your guy. I'm laughing because I don't meditate, yeah. And I've never, I've meditated like twice in my life. Yeah, it's kind of interesting, you know, like I'm kind of like Steven, it's like, you know, wasnt I'll never have really truly been much of a person to meditate. And um the biggest meditations are I'd say, I don't know, they feel like I'm a better word.
00:27:58
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The most impactful meditations that I ever had in my entire life was with, with this clown over here, Jimmy. And, um, and you know, like, um, there was one time, Jimmy, if you remember, and and this is very vivid to me, uh, when we were had the apartment in university city. Yeah. and And, and I was just like, I want to learn how to meditate. And we decided, okay, this is what we're going to do today.
00:28:26
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And then remember, we sat on the floor, we sat on the pillows, and I'm not ah i'm not a floor person, and I'm not a pillow person. Oh, yeah, we did this. I remember this now. yeah It was a trip and and we're sitting there and um you know, you walk me through the motions. And um it's kind of like weird because it's like trying to replicate this ever again, it was like it's been like it's kind of like that. ah You know, it's like chasing that high you want, right? It was kind of trippy. And um but anyway, ah we meditated so deeply.
00:29:01
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And I felt like it truly was getting, I was out of my own body and I was levitating. I thought I was levitating. And, um, it was so incredibly deep. It was crazy. It was almost like the way that people describe how, like, if they were tripping on something, you know, and it was like, kind of, kind of like that, like maybe if you did too much ecstasy or something, right? It was, it was really trippy. And, uh, so I was just like,
00:29:31
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That's crazy. When we kind of were climbing out of our meditation, i said them i like I feel like I was floating. I felt like it was a floating because because you were. And I was like, Oh my God. And it was a trip. I was like, I was like, so I had a ah choice at that moment to either believe it or, for or, or continue to, um, you know, like be like, deny it, be a denier. And it was like, it was incredible.
00:30:02
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Yeah, and when you meditate with them spiritually aligned people, a lot of them, if you get a group of them together, you can do a lot of things like that. It's very powerful. Prayer together is very powerful. Meditation together is very powerful.
00:30:17
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But like I said, but you and I are pretty aligned with each other. So our energy in sync is usually pretty in sync. I've ah been places with other psychics where we can make the lights go brighter by touching the lights, the light bulbs, and see they go brighter because our energies conducive to one another. And it's it's a lot of people call bullshit on that.
00:30:38
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They try to call bullshit on that, but when you see it and experience it. Right. I'm not going to lie because I was there to witness it. So yeah, I believe it. So Danny Steven and I were going to be levitating in our meditation class. I cannot wait to hear this.
00:30:56
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I hope I have never been able to replicate that particular day. And, you know, to go one step further, it was like, it was really when I was super healing because I was just going through some shit and,
00:31:11
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um And it was it it was it was great. It was really great. After the experience, I felt like I was so aware, so alert, so awake. And I felt like, OK, I knew what the what the next step was kind of thing. you know Yeah, CJ, we were a lot of times my getting pig. For a lot of things.
00:31:36
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How about then people listening going, okay, I don't get no ringing in my ears. I don't hear my name in the room in a house with nobody else. I don't, you know, I feel as if I'm missing something. What are your insights on people who feel really disconnected from their higher self, their guides, whatever, not. A couple of things. I think they're trying too hard.
00:32:02
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I think there is such a thing as trying too hard. I think people get obsessed, like I said spiritually, and really go down that rabbit hole and like, I'm gonna i'm gonna see this. I'm gonna know this. I gotta know this. This is what I'm supposed to know. I know I have these gifts. And then other times, I think it's lack of patience. It takes patience. The one thing I will tell you about spiritual awakening, spiritual gifts growing and evolving, it comes in its own time.
00:32:30
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You can't take a cake out of the oven before it's ready. So it comes in its own time, and you just have to trust that it's gonna develop in its own time. And keep trying different things, keep trying things, but don't obsess on it. I think a lot of times, like I said, Maya, people tend to really, really obsess in their thoughts about what they wanna know and how they're gonna learn things. Maybe you're not clear audience, so that's why you're not getting ringing in your ears. You know, people don't think about, like, your spiritual gifts can be anything, like, um I just so happen to be a clear audience. That's where I started. And then when I looked at the poems, I never thought I would be a poem reader. Never. Never in my life. I glanced at one book for 20 minutes. and And like I said, what they said, left hand is past, right hand is future. I saw in both poems. And I read the lines. I still read the lines differently. I read them backwards.
00:33:24
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You know, so you can't, you know, my suggestion would be to really stop trying to stop trying to make it happen. and let it happen. There's a difference. And don't question what happens. I think a lot of times, like you know when I realized I could read poems and I could read different things in both hands, and then I read backwards, I was like, oh, I don't know what this is. Am I wrong? I did ask myself, you know because I was very young. I was around my 20s. And I was like, oh, I must be wrong at this. I must be horrible at this.
00:33:58
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And what I learned was the palms, like any other divination tool, is the doorway for your intuition to grow ah grow and develop, and the doorway for spirit to get in, even with the face reading. I'm a novice face reader. I don't do all the numbers and the ages and everything according to Chinese face reading, but spirit fills in what I don't know.
00:34:22
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And I think a lot of times is, and I've said this before, people want to know everything about what they're learning or how they're experiencing, you know, and we're not supposed to do that. The one beautiful thing, Maya, like how you did the cards before we started, it's your intuition going off that card. That card holds no weight. yeah But if it resonates with you, that's what you want to go with. If it sounds true to you and you want to take that information or that feeling you have from hearing the that card, the message, and expand on it. That's how you develop your intuition. It's taking a little bit and cultivating it. It's also, like I said, really not questioning how you're getting the information all the time. That is one of the biggest downfalls people could do to themselves spiritually. You'll run in circles and you'll never get anywhere.
00:35:12
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Like I said, I could read both things in both palms. And that being said, I've never I've not questioned that after a while, because that to me, it just took me down a path of doubt. It took me down a path of despair and uncertainty. And I realized.
00:35:27
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um after getting used to reading pans and reading poems, that I just got to go with it and trust that the the rest of it is provided by spirit. And that's my intuition. It's a balance of both using my intuition and spirit to be my guide, as well as the practical of the palmistry book. It's using everything together, making a soup, making a salad, making but you know a meal.
00:35:54
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You want to bring everything together. Do you think a portion of that, that the people are getting frustrated? For me personally, it's been years. You know, I've known Jimmy for, for a long, but it's been so many years and where I'm at is like barely, not even touching the surface yet. If you want to use like Jimmy's abilities as like a, not that you're not the final, but the final one is not like me there. Not even near it, but it's been at least a decade for me to be where I'm at.
00:36:23
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And that's even now that I am recognizing these things, I think back on it. And was probably delayed a little bit by myself because I wasn't recognizing what was happening, right? Because in a normal course of life, a million things are going on. I'm not always paying attention to what spirit's trying to convey to me. So I think that could be a ah big portion of it. True.
00:36:48
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No, and and Stephen, you're right. You have to live your life human first. You're human first. So and certain things happen in your life. Marriages happen, babies happen, divorces happen, everything happens. We have to be in that realm. And not everything is of a spiritual overtone, but it is.
00:37:06
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it It is. there's a There's a plan, a method to the madness, so to speak. But in the same respect, there's a time for earthly growth, and then there's a time for spiritual growth. Just like the intellectual intelligence evolves as well as emotional. So you're going through different phases at different times, and some are heavier than others, some are lighter than others, some come easier than others. That's all your soul's wisdom. That's prior lifetimes. That's past life's coming in.
00:37:34
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Like, CJ, you can vouch for this, too. I'm completely different than when you met me psychically. I'm a completely different reader than who I was.
00:37:45
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Absolutely. I mean, I can't even begin to tell you like how light years away you are from that moment you walked up to me in Woody's and said, you know I have a message for you.
00:37:58
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yeah i was like it was kind of a kind of a trip. And it's just like, you know, which, again, for listeners, I don't know if you're a first time with listener or not, that the story is like, you know, ultimately, I was a probably one of the biggest skeptics that there are in the universe. And I didn't believe any of this, I thought it was all hokey. And to have Jimmy come up and just tell me, you know, and again, I was dismissive of them the first time and then he came up the second time and he started telling me a little bit about myself and
00:38:30
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It was bizarre how he knew that kind of stuff. But anyway, you know and then we we wound up living together, moving in together, um you know and just watching like how like how he grew. And I learned about what gifts were right and spiritual gifts and things. you know And at first, when he started telling me, I was like, what are you talking about? This is crazy. You're insane. This dude's nuts. And I just couldn't understand like you know that.
00:38:59
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But you know of course, like as time went by, i it was like a plausible deniability. I could not deny what he knew and what he was learning and why how he was growing. you know ah It made me like, you know he was like the Pied Piper to me. you know And I was like, okay, well, you better pay attention here because here's some lessons for you. um you know But i'm late yeah like anyway, the point is I'm light years away myself.
00:39:26
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from where i was where I was when I met Timmy. And it's ah it's just really absolutely amazing um because I went from being somebody who's complete and total skeptic to a complete and utter believer. And you're right, CJ. it's like um I think people forget we want a messy life. that People think they're getting everything wrong, and you might be getting everything right. And just because it's taking you off your path, off the beaten path,
00:39:53
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It doesn't mean that you're lost or confused or you're not getting to the, you know, the good stuff or the final outcome, but that's part of the process of it. And, you know, when you're going through turmoil and you're going through changes and things are falling apart, you know, you don't know how they're going to fall together. You don't know how, uh, what's going to come of that and a new change evolves, but you don't want the clean and easy life. There are some souls that do choose a clean and easy life. Maybe they're.
00:40:21
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taking vacations, like we talked about that before, it's their vacation lifetime. But um yeah most of us, none of us get through this life unscathed. We all go through some type of suffering, some type of loss, some type of pain, some type of struggle and challenge, some of us more than others. And that's based on what you chose to work on. That's based on your karma that you're working off.
00:40:44
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And it doesn't mean it's negative karma. That's another thing that I hear about all the time. And Steven, you and I have talked about that. It doesn't mean you did something horribly wrong. It's just the way you're working things out. And who are who are we as human beings to decide what's negative and positive karma? How do you know? Like, how do you know? You know, but like I said, it's a lot of times life is messy, you know, it's crappy, it's shitty, and we're all walking through it. So we're all here to walk each other through it.
00:41:11
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And like I said, anybody that tells you they have a clean life and this is what annoys me within the spiritual community, I'm not knocking people and their beliefs, but it becomes so love, light and blessings that anytime anything negative happens, they think it's their spirit guides getting revenge on somebody. They think somebody has a curse on them. They think it's some type of tragedy. They don't understand why are they suffering? Life is suffering. And part of that suffering is you navigating it and keeping your spiritual center, keeping your faith, keeping your hope and your positivity, so to speak, but that you'll get through it and that the spirit will guide you through it. Sometimes I believe the um harder life is, the more help we have. You know, going through my own experiences recently these past years has not been easy, but I thank God that I have them and I thank God the universe has my back. I've had good doctors, I've had
00:42:09
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the right care when I've needed it or the right people in place for me. And you have to trust that. And I think people get like so frustrated and down and out and they don't, you don't know your whole plan. The thing is just walk through it and know, like I said, the tougher it is, you're going to have spirits going to have your back. They don't leave you hanging. Like I said, when I was down and out with pneumonia, I knew my mother and grandmother were in that room with me when I felt like I had no family by my side.
00:42:39
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It's just a knowingness. And so, because especially when you're in critical conditions, spirit will come in to help you. there are They're always trying to help us. But like I said, anybody that tells you to have a beautiful life, yeah, we all have beautiful lives. I think every life is beautiful, but I don't think it's all pretty as they paint it. And within the spiritual community, sometimes but what irks me is the fact that um people make it seem like they're love, light, and blessings. Love, light, I trust my guides. I trust my angels.
00:43:09
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I know they're around me all the time. Let me do this reading. Let me burn the sage. Let me make a little vial for you because that'll protect you to each their own. Everybody, different strokes for different folks, different levels. But the only thing you need is to trust in yourself and to be in alignment with yourself. And, but like I said, you know, to every life, rain must fall. So when it's raining, be grateful because that means there's going to be growth after the rain.
00:43:34
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oh Night drop. I'm perfectly imperfect. Great to me. I'm perfectly imperfect. Perfectly imperfect is wrong with me is right. Right. and Perfectly imperfect. Even what's wrong with you is right. And that is a beautiful mantra if you're feeling lost. Because the minute you say that, whether you say mentally out loud, I used to write little things like that and have them around my house and until I and integrated them. Because remember I was talking about integrating change. It's an instant healing.
00:44:06
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so we i hope What's so funny? What's so funny? I'm sorry, but it's just like, what I think is funny is beautiful too. Thank you, kid. But what I'm laughing at is like, ah until you don't need them around anywhere, that all of a sudden to have a vision of you throwing stuff out the window. Oh, okay. Oh my God. When I get named 13.
00:44:28
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Oh my God. Through all my shit out the window on ah on the roof of the pay less store. All right. we but i i head ill I'll be very brief with that story. right i wasn't I was in the phone with somebody. I was trying to set up a date. right and and Anyway, and Jimmy keeps walking by where my bed was and keeps going past me, grabbing stuff pissed off and angry. um And I'm like, he just keeps grabbing random things. And I'm like,
00:44:58
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He keeps going past my, where my bed was. And I'm like, what is he doing? So I can end my phone call. And I said, and Hey kid, um, what are you, what's up? What are you, what are you doing? Like nothing. And I'm like, what do you, what do you mean? it' really Like, you know, like in his, in his zone and he's like really angry. So I'm like, Oh, oh like, let me give him his space. But finally he's just like, I said, why are you throwing things out the window? Well, we were on like the 14th floor.
00:45:28
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Right. And the windows could open up really, really wide. Right. And it's kind of scary. But anyway, he's literally, I watch him, he's throwing things out the window. I'm like, what are you doing, bro? You know? Yeah, it was just crazy. But he's just like, he didn't love me. like this is Yeah, I went through a bad breakup. When you get a bad breakup, oh my God. Yeah, it was like. Yeah, it was a bit of Virgo. yeah evil bitches. It was my first. It was my first. Yes. So my first gay relationship. And I was so made. I didn't want any of this shit in in my space. I threw all this shit out.
00:46:11
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i love with that i was I was wondering why you were laughing and I was like, what am I saying to you? And I apologize to everybody, but it's just like, it was like me and you said, you've just got to let shit down. You just got to let it it all go and just like and just get rid of it. I do that now when I get mad at people, if I break up with friends, that's where all the shit happens.
00:46:29
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I don't need your shit in my space. That is your Scorpio moon through and through. Once you betray me, you are done. You are done. I'm telling you. Oh my god, Jimmy. Oh my god. That apartment, that room was so small too. It was like no bigger than my office. Hey, we ahead of it but we had a visitor that was there, remember? ah Yeah, we had a haunting.
00:46:57
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and my god we we both were see like we both grew a lot cause every person knew data was like then i met them now no Let's say you're in a reading and someone goes, Hey, I'm dating this person and I just want your insights on that person. Do you come across and do you say, Yup, I really like this person for you. Definitely a good match. Or is it more so?
00:47:20
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they get to decide if they're a good match and you see how you evolve and grow. Does that make sense in my question? Because I think some people are keep like looking for, I finally found my match and my life partner. But it's kind of more up to you if you want that person to be your life partner. Does that make sense?
00:47:36
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That's true, that's true. um So you're asking me what i when I say in a reading, is this it? Is this a person for you? Well, when Spirit shows it to me, they usually show me both sides of it. They'll show me what you could work on with this person. They'll show me um what this person's flaws are, and then they'll show me how you relate together. And a lot of times I'll get straight up, I like them, straight up I don't. Usually it's like... And it's it's usually cut and dry. And a lot of times it takes me a long time before I actually like somebody, but like for somebody else. But the thing is, it's about how they want to deepen the relationship, how they want to develop the relationship. I've read people that I've told not to ah marry certain people or get involved with certain people and they're still together. But that is because spirit has the final say, and it's their choice.
00:48:22
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So it's a little bit of both. You have to make your own choice of things. And people don't like to make their own choice of things. They don't want to be accountable. That's a lot of things. And then they don't want to be accountable to get out of relationships. They don't want to be accountable for their bullshit and relationships. They don't want to own things.
00:48:39
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and then it becomes all defensive and they're fighting back and forth, and there's entitlement that comes in, all this humanity drama that we create, instead of starting to go inward and think, is this person not someone that I wanna fight for, but somebody that I'm growing with? The biggest thing is when it comes to long-term relationships and romantic partners, it's are you growing and continually growing with that person? And um and there's gonna be fights and struggles, but the biggest thing is, um You don't want all fights and struggles. When it gets hot and it stays hot like that with fights and arguments, that's usually a red flag that you need to go in different directions, unless it's reconcilable. And a lot of times people, even when they say they're gonna reconcile something, and some of us have been privy to this on this podcast here, they don't um always honor what they say they're gonna do. And their spouses don't always honor what they say they're gonna do.
00:49:39
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So then if you have somebody that's not honoring their end of the relationship, then it becomes your choice on what you choose to do forward. And the karma becomes more the other person.
00:49:54
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Especially if you tell them straight up the straight truth. Look, this isn't working. yeah Look, we're not doing this. I'm not happy. you know You have to make them aware. it's You create karma more so when they're not aware. And you want to be mindful of your karma when you are making them aware, too. You try not to hurt people as much as you can, because we talk about the life of review, Danny and Maya. like When you have that life in your review, you're going to be like, oh, no.
00:50:19
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I was a mother. like you didn And then you'll hate yourself because you're judging yourself in the life of you. So you're like, why was I so mean? i couldn't Why was I so cruel? And then because what happens is, and Danny, you brought this up a couple of times, um you know like your ego gets in the way here. So our ego is very good at giving us the excuse that we should be mean. Like we're entitled to be mean or nasty to somebody. We're entitled to be angry. And when you're in ethereal,
00:50:48
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the spirit energy, you're like, oh, I was really nasty. What they tell me about that is you knowingly don't want to hurt somebody. That's where this major crime, you knowingly, yeah. I mean, I'm guilty of that too. whether There's some people I've cut down and cut off that I'm just like, I've been evil, pure evil. He's like, let me repet my sins right now. Yes. While I was just looking at the spirits, I was like, it was kind of a big deal, Jimmy, but not really, you grew here. like that's my that's my hope
00:51:23
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I think you, Maya, I think you asked him, you know, what does he tell his clients that come in about relationships? What I've noticed personally is, or what I believe personally is Jimmy sees and hears much more than he relays. And then he fine tune, fine, fine tunes that. So it's really subtle guidance. Like, group you know, take it slow, feel it out.
00:51:50
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To me, now that I've been through answering my comments, I'm like, okay. Because then when something happens to look good, that's what you do. The thing is, I can explain that too. That's your soul lessons. I can't give you all your soul lessons. And that's why...
00:52:03
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But you can, most people that know me and know my style of reading and my tone can kind of figure out the tone. I'm like, okay, that's what you want? Good. Because it's kind of, I say it kind of just like that. I'm like, okay, then or I'll tell you straight up, there's lessons here. People are like, what's up with this lessons? What do you mean, Jimmy, those lessons? I'm like, there's lessons with this for you. And they're like, it's good, it's bad. I'm like, I don't know, there's lessons. And I don't withhold. I will say I don't withhold, but you're right, Steven, you said it perfectly.
00:52:32
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and kids It gets fine tuned because what happens is that's where your free will steps in as well. Interesting. And that's what I figured. Well, I've noticed the difference between, you know, I take it slow and let's see where it goes. You might, yeah you know, there's a very big difference in how that plays out, even though the words that he said are not all that different. Yeah. And I don't think that's just with relationships. I'm like, because I will tell you, there are certain things, and Steve is right here, that I'm a little more, this is it, doing.
00:53:03
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Or it's like, no, no, no. And then sometimes it's like, well, ah Danny, you're you have to but Danny, I torture Danny. We torture each other. Well, because you get cryptic, but I read through it now.
00:53:18
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Right through that bullshit, please. I'll just push, push, push, push, push. And then you like get mad and you're like, fuck. I get the delivery. I get the delivery gets mad. I will tell you that sometimes fear is like, what the hell is she not listened to? We don't know how many times we could say it clear and like, you know,
00:53:41
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Have I been like that with you, Stephen? I don't think I've been that way with you. CJ have been that way. Oh, he does, yeah. He's nasty with me sometimes. I cannot at all ever seeing Jimmy angry. Because you're a young little grasshopper. You're growing. Oh my god. Wait till he's yelling at you. He was too sweet of a soul, apparently. Maya, did I yell at you? I don't think I yell at you either.
00:54:08
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I've definitely, no, because you'll actually say, oh, you know, I apologize that came across a little harsh, but to me it wasn't. It was just direct. um But oh, I get, I get, I get, I get called out pretty often, but it's it's a, I like the way I just want to be a fly on the wall for Danny and Jimmy's combos because Danny and I will rendezvous after we have a reading. And I remember the first times when Danny and I first became friends because she introduced me to Jimmy and I was talking to her about my session with Jimmy and she goes,
00:54:38
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I feel like we have really different sessions. I feel like our experiences are really, really different. They are different. They are different. There's different things you're going through. Yeah. But no, actually, there are a few times even Jimmy was a little surprised at how things were delivered to me. Yes, I do get surprised by some information. I just cry after everything. Sometimes it's not. Not like during. cry during.
00:55:04
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To me, he'll be like, here's the dishes. And then he'll be like, the one time you were like, I just want to shake you so little. He's like, get it, get it. I was like, all right, get it. That's what he was. He was like, that's funny. I did. I remember that. That was funny. That's funny, Danny, because that's usually how most of our my readings are with him. Yeah, CJ, I'm brutal. I don't know what it is. I think that's our connection.
00:55:33
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Like our soul, our soulmate connection, so to speak, because CJ and I are very in sync with a lot of things. And i with both of us, we're, but you're just as brutal with me with your intuition too. So you don't hold back usually. And then when you do, I'm just like, uh-oh. When it comes out or they'll come out. I think, wait, CJ, I will tell you, I think when you're Mars and Scorpio and all your Scorpio energy,
00:56:00
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and your chart, because I have a lot of leaver in my chart. I think you're worse than me when you deliver a message. Like when you, I said this, and I'm just like. All right. Oh, that's funny. Like, I don't like this. This is what I said. Talk about mic drop, this one over here. God help him. God help your students. I mean, you're not learning the lesson. You know? If Mars your communication, Jimmy, like how you communicate,
00:56:31
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It's your, a little bit, it's it's um your action. Your energy, assertiveness, and your sex. So it's just your action. I think mine is Scorpio too, CJ, so. Well, there you go. Yay. Candice, what's yours? Is yours Capricorn? I'm gonna look it up right now. Probably. I'm like Capricorn everything. Wow. Or maybe your Virgo. Steven, what's your Mars? Is that what I'm looking you up? I don't know. I didn't even do the three. Let me pause for a minute. I'll look you both up. Wait, Steve, what's your big three?
00:57:01
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What's it, Leo's Sun, Virgo Rising, Gemini Moon. Gemini Moon. A Gemini moon is Gemini moon. Okay. Let me tell you about Gemini moons. The little bit that I know and when we have Sarah on, when we have Sarah on, and to you'll get explained a little bit more, but my knowledge of Gemini moon. Fucking smart. They're fucking brave. And I love being told how smart and clever they are. when nion hard What makes it hard for you when you express yourself emotionally is Steven, you could get in your head emotionally. yeah
00:57:42
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So cause the moon rules your emotions and your emotional expression. So talk about weighing things out. Like you said about the intuition and the imagination. That's why you're constantly going back. I can relate a little cause I have Mars and Gemini. I'll explain that to the difference, but your moon and Gemini also, you want one thing, then you want something else. You want one thing, you want something else. You want one thing, then you want something else. So variety is the spice of life. What gives you a little bit of grounding is your Virgo rising.
00:58:11
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Because when you talk about diligent and when you make a plan, you're making a plan, it's like I'm doing it, it's how I'm doing it. And you'll watch the room, Virgo Rising, I have a cuss Virgo Rising, Virgo Levercuss. So you'll watch the room, you can be very observant, very quiet, people that know you're here, you'll speak to who you want to speak to. Virgo Rising's gonna be like, bitch, I don't know if I like you, motherfucker. and Unless I like you. And Sarah said that's a tough balance with the Leo's son and Virgo, like they balance each other out in a very unique way.
00:58:40
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Yeah, because your Leo is like, hello, bitch. Do you not see how pretty I am? I'm just naturally pretty. And they have hair. He's got the beard. He's got the tats. He's got the bod. That's what that's about. That's all Leo energy. We've got the girth factor. Your Mars is your it ah energy, assertiveness, and sex. With your Mars, with your Gemini moon too, how people talk to you emotionally triggers you.
00:59:02
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Because your moon rules your emotions. How people talk to you emotionally triggers you. You like smart people. You need intellect conversation. CJ and I are both Scorpio moons. We need passion. We can't have superficial fluff talk. We need something. Give me some heat. Give me some me, right? That kind of thing. Danny's a Gemini rising. Ooh, there's moon on the rising. All right. That's a connection. anyway but like
00:59:33
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That's a marriage connection. But anyway, one of them. But I don't know. I don't know, Steve. Steve, I don't know, because she's got all that Capricorn. I don't know. It's definitely Capricorn. Hey, Steven, she's Capricorn. She's Capricorn. She doesn't need money. It wouldn't work, though, Jimmy, because her chiron is in Leo. It wouldn't work. Oh, no, the soul wound. Uh-oh, you'd trigger each other.
01:00:02
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Let me see. Wait, where is Danny? Danny is a Mars and Sagittarius. She's gone. Oh, so you need a venture. Yeah. You need a venture of freedom. You'll get, if people don't get, if you're in a relationship that doesn't allow you to be your own person and a free thinker and do what you want to do and come and go as you want to go, forget it. Yeah, she's got Mars and Mercury and Sagittarius. Like, it's, she's a fun time. Yeah, Mars and mar said Scorpio.
01:00:30
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Mars in Scorpio, it's when somebody triggers you. It could be a sexual thing for both of you, a sexual thing, ah pass a passionate thing. um But it's when somebody, um is it loyal to you? Because Scorpio wants loyalty. they mean lawyer They're like, bitch, I'll you ride or die and I'll kill a motherfucker, allegedly.
01:00:49
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like ha But like mine is Mars in Gemini, so when it's when people make me feel stupid, Or they um if they make me feel stupid and it's their tone of how they talk to me. I feel like Gemini's can care about wording and tone. like You have to really watch sometimes because you might mean it some way, but a Gemini might take it as, what did you just say to me? yeah i have I have turned down dates and gotten rid of men so fast because I hate the sound of their voice. I'm that guy. High maintenance, high quality. But anyway, even Venus and Leo, rrr.
01:01:24
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but anyway with them Steven, you would need somebody that really is diverse and knows a lot of them about a lot of different things. You like somebody that can enlighten you or talk to you about things that you don't know or things that you do know, that you can dive deep. It's more cerebral. So to some of your romantic relationships, you might come across cold. They might not think you're listening to them, even though you are, but you're intellectually listening. yeah You know, and that Virgo wants to help them. That Virgo wants to be the hero. berger virgo wants to virgo wants to hear Virgo wants to help them and heal them. So your rising sign, what happens when you first meet somebody I believe, this is my own belief, you see the rising sign. Like I'm leave a rising. Like I said, those comments, how could they not love me? But what's interesting too, Steven, with your Leo, not only do you want to help them, you try to ah mentally understand them. And then that Leo is like, well, adore me.
01:02:21
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Because I'm a cat. Like just pet me and adore me. Just tell me I was right. Yeah, he's got a nice mix. What about Mars and Cancer? We haven't talked about that before. Oh God, it's the worst fucking placement ever. The worst placement ever. To me. Oh my God, look at everybody. It's the worst fucking placement ever. Who's got Mars and Cancer? Me. Oh my God. You guys both just like had a heart attack. Because what happens is it makes you moody and it makes you cranky and it makes you whiny. When you get in that mode where like you were talking about like nothing's going right for me and that's the fucking cancer energy right there. What do you mean, Jeanette? I was good at what? I was good at what? Nothing, that's what you do. But it's that kind of, it's a Morrison, a Morrison cancer is an emotional mark and it's a hard placement because
01:03:18
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Anything can set you off, it's rule by the moon. So anything can set you off and it makes you feel like you're under attack at all times. You feel like your fucking world's coming in on you. Like somebody could, if you're working with somebody and they betray you, God forbid you'll have a fucking vendetta for life. When somebody upsets you, you take it personal. It's that type of energy. It doesn't, it's not a ban. It's a ban, it's not a ban. You literally said it was the worst.
01:03:48
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Wait, wait, wait, there's my lever rising and my lever mercury. Let's bring it back together nicely. down but happy um i know You literally. an nice mar and mar So when people upset you, you take it personal.
01:04:08
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And so you take it as an emotional wound or scar. That's what you've got to be careful of. Danny, you've got the nicest one. He likes your Mars. He loves your Mars inside of here. No, no, not yet. It's coming. Wait. I will tell you about Mars and Sash. They don't pay attention to anything until they need to pay attention to it. You're the girl that's like, well.
01:04:32
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yeah You just did it. This is pretty much what he said. Mars and is the best at detaching from shit until you're ready for it. Unless it's in your face because Mars and Sag is happy-go-lucky. You're like, well, that was your problem. Next, it's like you're going through a breakup. If God bless you, you'll go through a breakup. bill like it was your fault like they're going Not that you're not accountable. They're accountable, but they're like okay. There's another one down the line They're that kind of person they kind of detach ah Please Sagittarians they have their own zip code and Mars and Sagittarius. You're like what oh my god. You were upset I'm so sorry you're upset, but that's your problem to figure out next We're all just such messes on this planet. I love it
01:05:21
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like And your Pisces moon is fun. I am. My Pisces moon and rising so fun. I have so much water in my chart. It is. where's it And you got your Mars and scorpion with Pisces moon. Yeah. Pisces moon Pisces rising Mars. So you'll go and wait, you'll go in for that. Wait, you'll go in for the kill. And you'll be like, here's a tissue. but I feel bad. Here's a tissue. You're like, I didn't mean to cut you down, but I cut you down because it needed to happen. But here's a tissue.
01:05:51
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you know we all got it we got to get along she goes in and cleans up the mess afterwards question um so all these things that you said about each one of us i understand is it something that's embedded in us or is it something that we can become aware of and change or is this something that it's just It's something that you become aware. we become It's the basis of your makeup, but you never stay in that energy all the time. That's from your birth chart. So how old were we now? So you have evolved past that and you'll see what you can notice in that though. It's because it's your pattern.
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It's the basis, it's the primal energy that you, what you resort to. And it's what you choose to do with it. You want to go higher with that energy. Like ah Mars and Gemini would like to sit down and have a conversation instead of getting mad and cutting somebody apart. You know, a Mars and Sag, instead of ignoring the situation or ignoring the fight or blaming somebody else, we'll sit down and say, okay, well, let me hear your other side. Mars and Scorpio,
01:06:54
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instead of going cutthroat and passionate, will quiet their passion a little bit and be receptive to the other person's side and how they feel. And Mars and Cancer won't have a temper tantrum or be a crybaby or take it as an emotional vendetta and say, okay, well, I could see that in myself and I could see that in you.
01:07:17
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okay I could see where you're coming from. Because what like I said, with Mars and Cancer, it's a hard placement. That's a hard place. God bless you. I don't wish that on my worst enemy. Because like I said, you feel like you're under attack. To me. Did you see that? It's never going to come back onto the podcast. That's my cousin. he didn Actually, quite the opposite.
01:07:37
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Are you feeling, are you feeling, he wants, and like I said, Sarah knows a lot about that. But like I said, it's just, it's a difficult placement because Mars wants to fight and the moon wants to be harmonious and flow. So Stevenson, to give you some, a little bit of accountability and credit, he's at war with himself more than he's at war with other people.
01:07:59
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His heart says to be loving and and nature like natural and open, but he's like, I don't understand because I feel like I'm attacked and I'm not getting any help over here. you know But like I said, it's it's more emotional word himself, especially being a Virgo rising a Leo. Leo is the fucking party, man. You want to walk in and be like, we're chill. And Virgo wants to come in and wants to help. The Gemini is like, how can I help? Let's be funny. mar at Moon in Gemini wants to be clever and funny and witty.
01:08:29
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So when your Mars energy is in cancer, it's your emotions. And at times, because you're more cerebral with your emotions, you get, and talk about spinning your thoughts and getting depressed a little emotionally because it's wrote by Gemini. You're not going to understand why you feel the way you feel. So a big thing for you, Steven, would be to sit back and look at like, am I being attacked here? Or am I being emotionally moody? Or am I being emotionally hard on myself? Gemini once, Gemini and Sarah told me this, I give her credit accreditation, is the perpetual student.
01:09:02
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That's why CJ with the Mars and Gemini, I love to learn. I love to learn about everything and I did multiple things. And with you, your emotions, why do I feel this way? What makes it hard is because that's an air sign emotion is looking at that depth, but you've got other, but that Mars and cancer, this is where it's a blessing, allows you to sit in that emotional energy and that Gemini moon allows you to dissect it without being extremely attached. It's actually more of a blessing than a curse.
01:09:31
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But if you were at the um if you're feeling low on yourself, you're gonna feel like people and things are attacking you. That's the difference there. if That gives everybody clarity. I'm not coming It is, isn't it? is Because it allows you, that's why you're asking yourself why. You're like, what are these feelings? Gemini, what are these feelings? And then the Mars and and cancer is like, let's look at these emotions. Let's weigh out these emotions. But what makes it a blessing is that Gemini energy is like, okay, now we understand this. It's on the shelf. You know, it's it's a blessing for you. Moon and Capricorn dating would be more, um a little moody, but you would probably judge yourself more for you, if judge somebody else.
01:10:17
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And Mars and Sagittarius would be like, I've got to figure a way to get rid of this shit because I don't like it. Sagittarius wants to party too, like Leo. They're like, what? like yeah I don't have time to hold on to this. so But like I said, that Capricorn industry would be like, I don't understand why I feel the way I feel and it must be something I did.
01:10:37
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how did i do it that movie Because Capricorn... How can I get better? Right. Capricorn Moon wants to be the best. There's a goat that climbs the top of the mountain. So she's like, what did I do wrong? Something's got to be wrong with me because I didn't get it. Like, you know. But the sash, what I love about your sash, it all works together, right? So there's no really good or bad. It's just some things are tougher.
01:10:57
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Well, this was this was ah enlightening. And thank you, Jimmy, for the raw and honest ah dissections of our charts. And we are excited to bring Sarah on to to further dive into it. And you know, before we wrap up here, does anybody have kind of last thoughts or questions on their mind that they want to ask Jimmy your spirit?
01:11:18
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All of a sudden, everyone's quiet. Did I terrify everyone? Give me, does Spirit have anything? and Because I know this was a little bit of a different format. lot you know Usually, we're kind of asking Spirit for their insights and and guidance. But does Spirit have any last closing thoughts, given what our discussion was today? No, not really. i mean what i'm What they're liking is the engagement of things. It's nice to be engaged and have everybody talk and have a say in something. Yeah. So because that's what it's about. It's about collaborating and coming together. And like I said, spiritually growing together and you do that through conversation, discussion, different experiences, different feelings, different emotions, different knowledge and wisdom and sharing it. The ultimate mic drop. Beautiful.
01:12:10
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Well, definitely excited to do this again. And I hope, uh, Steven and CJ, you will join us again. Thank you of course to Jimmy and Danny Per usual and spirit for being here and for everybody listening. And yeah, we'll see you all in the next episode. Bye everyone. Bye everyone. Thank you. Bye. Bye.