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184 - Marmaduke (2022)
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“Some dogs are meant to be champions. Some dogs are meant to be… dogs.”
We’re back with another installment of our unofficial ‘Coming Attractions’ theme month! There are three - count ‘em, THREE - new movies opening on Memorial Day weekend and we couldn’t decide which to discuss, so we’re covering all three! First up, the new animated Garfield movie promises an animated movie based on a comic strip about a larger-than-average housepet voiced by an incredibly unconventional choice… so we’re bringing you another one of those! Join us as we talk about our favorite comic strips, the incredibly distracting character models, and why Tucker actually had fun with this movie!
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Transcript
Introduction to the Disenfranchised Podcast
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Bow? Wow. This is the disenfranchised podcast. We're that podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
A Movie So Bad, It's a Warning
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I am your host, Steven Foxworthy, and joining me, as always, the big dog himself, Mr. Brett Wright. Hey, Brett. Hello, Steven. How are we doing, man? Um, that's a loaded question right now.
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And why is that, Brad? Um, this movie. Yeah.
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Yeah, we'll get into it. We've got five hours to get into it. So it made my day worse. It made my day actively worse. I did try to warn you. Well, I was directly warned Tucker, but I did. I directly warned Tucker, but you were also in that thread. So I mean, it wasn't I mean, it was no more of a warning than you usually get for bad for bad movies. So I was like, I said, bad movies, whatever.
00:01:30
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Um, that could not have prepared me for, um, what awaited me on the other side. No, I, I didn't want, I didn't want to mess with your expectations going in, but,
Comparing 'Food Fight' and Marmaduke
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uh, I had, I had a visceral reaction and based on the reaction that you dropped in the thread, I think you and I had the same reaction. So. Yeah. I mean, except you managed to finish it and I didn't. In one sitting, no less.
00:01:58
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I mean that looked at you do that you managed to finish food fight in one sitting I had to do that in multiples but but that that had least had spectacle and novelty and curiosity
00:02:09
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you know, propelling me forward to know where what the hell happened. This is this is the bar, ladies and gentlemen. If you are a first time listener, then you have no context for what's going on. But I will I will lay it out here before I do that. I do want to introduce the other elephant in the room. The man who still hasn't seen. Correct. The man who has not seen the albatross on this podcast that is food fight.
00:02:40
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Tucker, hey Tucker, what's going on?
00:02:42
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Hey, if this movie is worse than Food Fight, then give me some fucking Food Fight, cause this was a breeze. You guys are rookies, dude. You don't watch shit movies all the time, okay? And number two, you haven't been watching shit children's TV and movies for the last 15 years. Your boys got armor for this shit. You got the parent armor, yeah. That makes sense, yeah. You could probably sit down and watch Food Fight.
00:03:11
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If this is worse, shit, give me some food fight. I think they're on the same level. I put food fight slightly under just because of the inconsistency in animation quality. Yeah, for sure. But it's every bit as bad. It sucks pretty evenly in this movie.
00:03:29
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Yeah, correct. Don't get me wrong, this is a really bad movie, but you guys, I had a fucking great time with it. I could not be happier. And Tucker, what movie did you have such a great time with?
Marmaduke 2022: A New Low?
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but straight up, Marma Duke, from 2022, from the Netflixes. The 2022 film, Marma Duke, directed by Mark A.Z. Depay, the man who brought us Spawn,
00:03:57
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And starring Pete Davidson, Academy Award winner JK Simmons, Dave Keckner, and nobody I've heard of, nobody I've heard of, Mary Hart from Entertainment Tonight. What a cast. What a picture.
00:04:17
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I feel like you could at least start a really specific letterbox list with really shitty digitally animated cartoons with a stellar voice cast. Because Food Fight almost gets there. Food Fight does almost get there. Yeah. I mean, there's a couple of people phoning it in, and there's a couple of people really trying in that movie. So speaking of Food Fight, again, if this is your first episode,
00:04:46
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Hi, welcome, we're glad to have you, but what are you doing here? I feel like that's my common refrain these days, but back in the early days of this podcast, I think it was, was it our first ever Thanksgiving episode, Brett?
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No, that was good on November, man. That's right. So season two, our 2021 Thanksgiving episode was a little movie called Food Fight. I think we had to watch it on YouTube because it was not available literally anywhere else.
00:05:21
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And it is, I don't know, go listen to that episode. Pause this. We'll be right here when you get back. Go listen to Food Fight. And when you're done, come back and then you'll have a point of comparison for what we're talking about. I mean, if you want to watch Food Fight, not a thing I recommend. And then listen to the episode and then watch Marmaduke and then listen to this episode again.
00:05:45
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You're in for a world of pain, but look, some people appreciate that, and I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum, so. People are completionists, and I appreciate that. And speaking of food fight, since I'm so ready to watch it, like, not so subtle plug for the Patreon, but what if we push that Oops All Christianity corner forward, and maybe I watch food right. Food fight.
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And we do a patron patron special on food fight disenfranchised at the movies. Food fight. You guys, you guys, you guys do not have to watch it again. Oh, I won't. I'm not going to put you through that. Well, but I mean, I feel like that that's a Thanksgiving thing. Like we do that. Really? You think we should. OK. You know, there's it now. Just because I want to do it real bad. But like if there's a time, if there's a better time in a place, I'm willing to wait. We can record it now and wait until November to release it. Oh, I like that.
00:06:38
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Well, it's like a little a little treasure chest we can sit on. But then we also record Oops, all Christianity Corner, because then we're not releasing anything to the Patreon. Correct. So that Patreon.com recording session. Patreon.com slash this a fresh pot. If you want to get in on whatever we decide to do. Yeah, we're just having an on air production meeting that, you know, happens from time to time to time. And meeting BTS.
00:07:06
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Yeah, their little sneak peek behind the disenfranchised curtain. But yeah, we're here to talk about the 2022 animated film, Marmaduke. And why are we talking about this movie in particular?
The Garfield Connection
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Well, it's because later this month, we've got three movies releasing Memorial Day weekend this year, and we couldn't decide which one to cover. So we said, fuck it, we'll do something to tie into all of them. So the first one up is the Garfield movie.
00:07:34
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a movie based on a comic strip with a rather large version of a household pet voiced by a shall we say rather unorthodox voice cast. And so here we have a another movie that fits the same criteria. It's Chris Pratt, right? Chris Pratt is voicing Garfield. Yeah. Mario himself is voicing
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Look, can we talk about Garfield for a minute though? Since we're doing this movie because of Garfield, maybe we could talk about Garfield for just a minute. Look, this is a tangent, heavy podcast. It's kind of our thing. Especially when we don't want to talk about the movie. Yes. And I don't know that any of us other than Tucker is really excited to talk about this movie.
00:08:22
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I know this movie sucks. Like I don't really have much to say about. I can tell you the good things that made me happy and like like why I enjoyed this movie. But overall, yeah, this this movie blows. This is a terrible fucking movie. Yeah, I just had a really good time with it. So I don't need a lot of time to talk about it. But anyway, that doesn't matter. That's neither here nor there. I want to talk about Garfield because to me,
Garfield's Cultural Impact
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Pete Garfield, the only good Garfield, the only funny Garfield, consistently funny Garfield is the 80s and 90s cartoon show Garfield in France. Garfield in France. It's a good show. The comic strip is has rarely ever been funny. I liked it when I was a kid because I was a kid, which applies to this fucking movie, too. I could that's one of the things that a positive thing I have to say about this movie is I could see like a five or six year old like really getting into this.
00:09:15
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I was kind of wondering at that age that where like I would maybe get get into this for a few years and realize it sucks and then like never watch it again. I was kind of wondering, like, who is this for? And as I was wondering that my partner was like, you know, your nephews would probably really love this. And I was like, you know what? Yeah, they probably would. They probably would. Yeah, but I don't think the comics trip has ever been really that funny. None of the movies have been good.
00:09:42
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Just that one little thing, that shining light in the Garfield franchise, Garfield and Friends. It's a classic that holds up. The great Lorenzo music as Garfield. Yeah, which I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the Ghostbusters connection. I was about to say the original Pete Stantz until Bill Murray complained at a party. Pete Vickman.
00:10:05
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Yeah, that's what I meant. What did I say? Did I say Ray? No, that was Frank Walker. You combined the two. Oh, did I? Eats dance? Eats dance. Spot's an all goes busting fan. That's a multiverse character I'm interested to meet.
00:10:19
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That's Ray's son, who he named after his good friend Pete. That's what that is. There you go, okay. Oh, you've decided to write some fan fiction, I see. Hey! Live on the air! Pew pew! Let's put our heads together, boys. What do you guys think about the Garfield? Oh, I love Garfield. Like, I grew up on Garfield. Like, all around? Oh yeah, I would get the comics out of the...
00:10:44
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out of the library as a kid. I read every Garfield book up to a certain point. Me too. I wanted to, at one point I was supposed to go to Jim Davis' studio and like meet the man, but the trip... Pause Inc, dude? Yeah, dude. You about to go to Pause Inc in Muncie, Indiana, dude? In Muncie, Indiana, dude. Yes, I was. That's wild. But that trip got canceled like last minute.
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So, but no, I mean, you know, it's Indiana's own Garfield, like named after Garfield Park. John is named after our Buckle Park. Like it's Indiana roots run deep. So no. Yeah, I loved
Comic Strip Nostalgia
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Garfield growing up. And then at some point I was reading I was reading the funny pages and realized that so few of the comics I loved as a kid were really funny at all. Like none of them were really all that funny. And
00:11:36
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Like Family Circus used to make me chuckle as a kid, and now I would just be like, hmm. Damn, I have a family circus book. Fucking line again. Yeah, I would say the only. The only comic strip that makes me laugh now. Is Pearls Before Swine. How are you not going to say the far side, dude?
00:11:59
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I mean, Far Side is hit or miss sometimes. Oh, I love Far Side and Calvin. I love it when it's subtle, like the less funny it is, the funnier I think it is. If it's the far side, just because like the type of humor that Gary Larson does, like the less obvious stuff.
00:12:18
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his illustrations just on their own will make me laugh. One of my favorites is the Medveil School for the Gifted or Medfield School for the Gifted, where the kid is just like pushing the door that clearly says pull. And he just like I could stare at that picture and the longer I stare at it, the funnier it gets to me. Because in my mind, in my mind, it's an active picture like he's just actively pushing and with all of his strength just shoving it. And it just it makes me laugh every time.
00:12:48
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Um, but no farsight and Calvin and Hobbs are my two favorites by the time I hit middle school for sure. Those, those hold up, I think for sure. I'm, I'm inclined. I never, I never got the Calvin and Hobbs. I never got it. Never understood it. Don't know why. I feel like you would really dig it. I've read them and I don't get it. I still don't know. I don't, I don't see the appeal. That's valid, dude.
00:13:12
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Steven seems to think it isn't. I know. I mean, it's it's absolutely valid. I just I just don't understand. Yeah, it's baffling. Yes, but it's valid. I just never got it, man. I was just like, oh, it's another comic about a person and a cat, whether or not that cat is imaginary or not, doesn't really matter. You know, we don't know.
00:13:36
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I wasn't the type of kid that related to Calvin That went out and played make-believe all the time. I didn't do that I stayed inside and played video games. All right, you weren't trying to get rid of smelly girls, dude No, no, no the opposite in fact Dumb one Dela nooch over here
00:14:00
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Going after the ladies at a young age. What I thought of myself was not true of myself. I got that reality check beaten into me pretty early on.
00:14:16
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Well, you're a fucking stud muffin now, dude. So don't tell you. I'm not talking about now. I mean, now. OK. All right. I'm a motherfucking catch right now. Fucking Fucking A you are. Ashley is very lucky. She will tell her such. Yeah.
00:14:33
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Oh, that took a weird turn. I would apologize, but she doesn't, so I won't. There you go. There it is. So what is everyone's thoughts about the Marmaduke comic strip since we are talking here to talk about Marmaduke? Does anyone have long, like fond memories of Marmaduke? Does anyone have any strong feelings when we're the other about Marmaduke?
00:14:59
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Right up there with Dagwood in terms of like it was my grandpa's favorite comic and I didn't care. OK. So when when I would read the comics that I liked, I would still just read all of the other ones, even if they sucked. So I'm very familiar with Marmaduke. And it has always sucked. Yeah. I am also of this opinion. We're going to have to pause for a second, guys. I'm sorry. Hold on.
00:15:29
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Have you read Pearl's Four Swines, Steven? Yeah, here and there. I've not like picked up like a book and just like dived in. But yeah, I know I've read that strip from time to time. OK. Yeah, it's got that sort of like absurd humor that like just hits my funny bone specifically. I've enjoyed what I've read of it.
00:15:51
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Like I but I don't know who any of the characters are like I don't read it enough to like be familiar with like whoever when I know he draws himself into the strip quite a bit. Yeah, it can get pretty meta sometimes. Yeah. And I know at one point he actually had like Bill Watterson come in and draw the comic for a lot like a week or something.
00:16:09
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Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah, which is pretty awesome. Speaking of Calvin Hobbs. It like that was that was the thing that got him out of retirement for a hot minute, like the incredibly reclusive Bill Watterson. So like, you know. Yeah. But but no, I am familiar, but not like familiar enough that I'm like, oh, yeah, my favorite characters and pearls before swine. You know, I mean, it's just pig and rat and zebra.
00:16:39
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and the Crocodile family. Okay. And they're always trying to eat one of the characters? Yeah. The pig, right? Or does it vary? I think it's, well, it's a zebra. They're always trying to eat the zebra. The zebra. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And then every now and again, the rats talking to the artist, like, be like, why'd you draw that? And he's like, I don't know. I thought it was funny or something. Right. Yeah. The rat. Yeah. The rat and the pig both. The rat more so.
00:17:08
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I was going to say, I feel like when I've seen those characters, it's usually the rat talking. Yeah. Pig is the existential crisis one that is like the wholesome, but also super depressed introspective character. OK. I think there's also a goat.
00:17:35
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I feel like there's a goat. I feel like I've seen that. I think goat is another character that shows up every once in a while. Am I going to have to, I think I'm going to have to Wikipedia this.
00:17:46
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pearls before because I mean, I have not like subscribed to a newspaper. Oh, no, I follow Stephen Pastis on Instagram and he posts. Oh, well, there you go. You post a comic like probably once a once a week. Snuffles, rat, Stephen Pastis, pig, goat, Larry, who I'm guessing is the alligator and guard duck.
00:18:11
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is the listed cast on the pearls before swine book. I forgot about guard duck. The guard duck is fucking hilarious. I mean, I love the concept of a guard duck. And then there are also two other crocodiles, Patty and Junior.
00:18:30
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Guard duck. Guard duck personality. Guard duck formerly known as little guard duck is a violent duck hired by pig because the cost of a proper guard dog was too high. Initially simply a violent sociopathic duck. He later took on the persona of a jaded soldier and mercenary seeing the world as his battlefield. He frequently blows up the neighbor's property assuming he is at war against the neighbors and suggests militaristic solutions for common and simple neighborhood problems.
00:18:57
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Guard Duck sees Pig as his commander, often referring to him as Sir. Accordingly, Pig is often forced to mitigate Guard Duck's ability to cause damage, typically by locking him in a closed hamper. Passes has emphasized that Guard Duck has a predominantly cool persona, in that while he is prone to violence, he does not freak out or panic.
00:19:22
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Right. He avoids the PTSD undertones that he could play with. I mean, that's probably for the best, given that it is a comic strip in a mainstream newspapers. Yeah, for sure. Hi, Tucker. Welcome back. We were just talking about pearls, unfortunately. Oh, cool. Well, I can just keep that in then. Well, I mean, I'll edit parts of the beginning out, but yeah, I'll figure it out. I'll leave it in. Was it good?
Podcast Editing and Storytelling
00:19:46
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It was good.
00:19:47
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I mean, he's saying how good of a comic it is and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And we had a good laugh about it. I mean, if you if you listen, we could we could put it on the Patreon as a mic segment. We could throw it up as a bonus snippet. We could put it at the end of the episode. So many options. There's so many to choose from. Who knows which one we will.
00:20:12
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I mean, honestly, that feels like a, you know, after credit scene for the episode, honestly. I think that's where it fits best. But that's just. I like that. I'm way into it. What did I say before I was so so briskly whisked away? I think we're talking about the Marmaduke. Probably something cool. Oh, yeah. You were talking about your history of Marmaduke. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I said Marmaduke sucks. Straight up. Yeah. Straight up.
00:20:43
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Yeah, I mean my my history has along with what I've already said is uh Like I also like I was I was a big comic strip
00:20:53
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I read that shit all the time because my dad has one too. Right next to that oft mentioned stack of Spider-Man comics that my dad had that I read all the time was a stack of three different comic strip collections, Peanuts, Garfield, and Doomsbury of all kinds. One of these things is not like the other. No, that's definitely a like for our parents kind of comic strip.
00:21:21
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Yes, absolutely. So I was a big comic strip person, but I never got into Marmaduke. I always thought it was kind of boring. Yeah, I was ugly too.
Marmaduke's Animation Style
00:21:33
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I don't mind saying it looks like shit. I do want to get into like why, like if you want to base a movie on a comic strip, why would you make literally none of the characters look like the characters in the comic strip?
00:21:48
Speaker
Interesting question, yes. Why would you give the mom a dump truck so large it rivals literally every Pixar mom put together? What even was that? That almost single-handedly got me through the movie.
00:22:04
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If only she had been in it more. Might have finished so. Yeah, so let's like point out and circle and pin that for later. Brett didn't finish this. Not that any of us blame him. No. I mean, you can if you want. I'm not going to finish it, so it's not going to change anything. I blame you, Brett.
00:22:26
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Like if some fans want to talk about integrity on this podcast. All right, that's fine. We want to talk about integrity. I finished the credits through the credits. Same. I heard Pete Davidson rap. I mean, I mean, I watched all the credits. I've never been happier to not have finished a movie knowing that. And it's real bad, too. It's like he's a daddy.
00:22:54
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Marmaduke says bow Wow, literally a line he say he raps multiple times. Yeah, Christ. Oh, yeah. It's a thing. There's this there's this weird, like good Charlotte sounding song. And then there's like kind of an actually cool instrumental.
00:23:11
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at the end of the credits, that's pretty rad. There's a bunch of like movie posters, parody movie posters where they put Marmaduke into better movies and it just reminds you of all the better ways you could have spent the last hour and 40 minutes. That's true, but some of them were kind of creative. I appreciated a few of them.
00:23:30
Speaker
Sure. But again, it just reminds me of movies I would rather have been watching than Marmadu. Don't reference good movies in your shitty movie. It just makes your movie look shittier. Exactly. It reminds us that there are better movies out there. Much better.
00:23:46
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I had a buddy in high school who would routinely point out how unfunny Marmaduke was. Like he made it his vendetta. Yeah, to just like rail against Marmaduke. He'd be like, oh, hey, guys, let's check out Marmaduke because we always had newspapers
Marmaduke Comic Strip's Survival
00:24:03
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in our our like civics classes. And so he'd pull out the newspaper and he'd read it in this just outlandish voice.
00:24:12
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And and then just sit there and like stare all at all of us like Norm McDonald after he told a joke that bombed on Weekend Update he just kind of like does a norm joke really bomb though or Most most people just not not getting it Norm's that's some complex humor that that I mean, yeah, I think that's more accurate, but I mean, you know Bombing is bombing we even if we understand the joke and we laugh
00:24:41
Speaker
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I concede you right. No, no, your audience. But I think the audience for Marmaduke, I question sometimes I know there are people who really love it. Like it's the people have tried to cancel it from like taking out of newspapers and there's always like this big letter writing campaign and people get very angry.
00:25:01
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I think it's been around since like the 1800s. Like, of course, people are going to be up in arms about something that's been around that long. People hate change, especially, especially boomers. Nineteen fifty four. This comic is a year younger than my father. Hey. Yeah. So, of course, those people are going to be mad that you're trying to take their funny dog out of take my mama dukes. Not my mama duke. Take it out of my piper.
00:25:30
Speaker
I wish that there were still papers, you guys. I hate to sound like an old man because I like getting my news and shit from the Internet and everything. That's cool, I guess. But the newspaper is just more focused. Like it makes me read things that I would normally scroll past on the Internet. Like if I sit down with a newspaper.
00:25:47
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And I'm about to read the whole
Media Consumption Evolution
00:25:48
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thing. I'm going to learn some shit that I would not learn on the internet because I would never read those fucking articles. At the risk of sounding, you know, old. I mean, that's kind of the problem. Like it's the reason that we have such deep, like millennials have such deep pop culture knowledge is because we only had the TV.
00:26:07
Speaker
So, you know, if something, you know, if Looney Tunes came on, you know, that shit, those are reruns from like 10, 15 years ago, but we're watching them anyway or longer. We're watching them because there's nothing else on. We're hearing, we're watching MTV and listening to music that we, you know, in this day and age, we would just skip on Spotify.
00:26:30
Speaker
It's the same thing with newspapers. You're not getting that depth of knowledge because you can choose to not read it or watch it anymore. We are a culture now that is able to choose what media they do and do not consume to a degree that has never been possible.
00:26:49
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And so we have now the option to not engage with parts of the culture. Whereas before that was a requirement, like it was something that we needed to do. And it's more and more difficult to impress upon younger generations, speaking as someone who has educated them, the importance of engaging with certain aspects of the culture, unless they already have an interest in it.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah. You think kids nowadays give two shits about the Dick Van Dyke show? Hell no. You better believe I was watching that with the bells on every night. And why were you watching it? Because it was on. Mary Tyler. Oh, well, also that Mary Tyler. Oh, I was about to. Who can turn the world on with her smile? I thought you were talking about the right side of our show. No, we were talking about. But she's on Dick. OK.
00:27:43
Speaker
I mean, she was both. No, no. Yeah. She contains multitudes. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. She can be a hot wife and she can throw her hat in the air. It's, you know. And then she can also grieve the loss of a son in Robert Redford's Academy Award winning film Ordinary People. I think she's going to make it after all, you guys. Look at that range. I think we're all going to make it after all. That remains to be seen. MTM for life's.
00:28:12
Speaker
Um, but yeah, no, Marmaduke, uh, not funny. I think I liked it as a kid because it was a, it was in the comics, but like goofy dog, new goofy thing. Right. And like, I've read some recent, like I got online and like looked up Marmaduke comic strip yesterday as I was watching this film because anything to distract myself. Um, and I looked at some on my phone, so I couldn't do anything on my phone because I was watching it on my phone.
00:28:40
Speaker
Oh, no. Sorry, Stephen, continue. I just know you're fine. So I'm like, I looked at a few Marmaduke strips, and one of them there was just the mom is looking out the window, and there's a cop car going by. And Marmaduke is on the floor with his his paws over his ears. And the only dialogue is, oh, what?
00:29:07
Speaker
What? Oh, fucking what? Did you hear Pete Davidson's voice, though? No, that. No, I why why that is the most baffling thing about this movie is why do you cast it?
Pete Davidson's Role as Marmaduke
00:29:24
Speaker
Pete Davidson. It makes no sense. Marmaduke. It does. No negative sense. And he's he's the only voice actor in this movie that does not at least try.
00:29:37
Speaker
I think that there are some I think that there are some voice actors in this film that are not the celebrities, but the people who are more actual voice actors. They do fantastic with what they're given. Oh, yeah. The guy playing the dog trainer is doing awesome. And actually, if I can point out David Keckner, he gets the MVP, even though he's not, you know, a voice actor, he's more of a comedian or whatever.
00:30:03
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but he just sounds like a generic cartoon character in this movie. It doesn't even sound like him at all. I had to look at the crest and be like, no, he's somebody else. I was waiting for him to come up, you know? And no, he just does a generic cartoon character voice and it's, he nails it, dude. He nails it. The voice he asks in this outside of Pete Davidson is trying, is what I'm gonna say, they are trying.
00:30:31
Speaker
So Tucker, you're an SNL guy. You love SNL on record. I do, I do. How do you feel about Pete Davidson? I think that Pete is funny. I don't think he was ever really that great in SNL. He had his moments. But overall, I did not like him very much on SNL. I think he's a talented writer.
00:31:00
Speaker
And I think he's a talented actor. So what I'm saying is I like him, but I don't think SNL was ever really the place for him. What do you what is the best thing of his that you've seen? I think I really liked Bubkiss the best. But that was that was really, really well done. And he's great. And I know like I know he's essentially playing himself, but there's some
00:31:25
Speaker
There's some dramatic shit in that, that if he's not nailing it, it doesn't work, and it all works. Right. It does. I agree with you on that point. I think I might agree with you on that take, because I'm thinking of the other things I've seen with him, King of Staten Island, where he is, again, effectively playing himself. And then I was watching before we started recording. I haven't finished it yet, so no spoilers, but I was watching Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. I like that movie so much.
00:31:53
Speaker
It's really good. Brett didn't like it. I see that. It didn't connect with me. All right. I feel like I am the outlier. Everybody seems to fucking love that movie. And me and Ash were like, I don't understand what the point of this movie was. So I'm not the only one. At least me and my girlfriend agreed. But like, no, it's very polarizing this film. It's not there. Nobody's in the middle on this one, really.
00:32:20
Speaker
What? I've never heard anybody say a bad thing about it. Is the thing? I mean, I had to go looking for bad reviews. Well, if you did the research, then yeah. There's dozens of us that didn't like it, but there's not many. But I mean, I think I generally like him as a performer. My partner loves his SNL work. Chad is...
00:32:49
Speaker
That's mm-hmm. That's the one right there. That's the one that's his reason for existing on SNL Yeah, is that and some of his some of his pre-recorded rap videos are good too. The one about Stanley Tucci. Mmm motherfucking Grace and Frankie Yeah, I just don't think it was ever really the place for him. I
00:33:12
Speaker
My partner was a big fan of, uh, I'm just Pete, which he did on the I'm just Ken parody that he did on, uh, when he hosted, when he hosted earlier this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we were, she was a big fan of that. She had a recurring bit, uh, leading up to the Oscars that it was going to get nominated in every category despite not being eligible for any of them. Look, he.
00:33:32
Speaker
He is a much better host on SNL than he ever was a cast member, if you ask me. I think it's because they have to find things to plug him in that he's going to work in. Exactly. That's kind of the challenge of a host. Unless Pete is doing a very specifically Pete thing, which is Chad and the prerecorded raps, he's just another character in a sketch and he breaks in every sketch to the point to where it's just like it's
00:34:02
Speaker
If I mean, it's not Jimmy Fallon or Rachel Sands level bad, but you had two of them. And I feel like they were more constrained, honestly, because any time you get Pete in a sketch that is not a Pete sketch, he's just laughing through the whole thing the entire he just starts out laughing like it's just if the whole thing is a he has broken before we come back from commercial. It's what I'm telling you.
00:34:32
Speaker
Brett, do you have any strong Pete Davidson feelings one way or the other? I don't really know. I think one thing we can all agree on though, a fundamental miscast for this role. Yeah, agreed.
00:34:49
Speaker
I don't think his voice, because he's got this kind of like higher register where he can like kind of get into almost some squeaky territory sometimes and for a great Dane character that's not the voice that I'm expecting. I'm expecting something more like
00:35:06
Speaker
Academy Award winner J.K. Simmons, quite frankly. I would even go for a Thomas Hayden church.
00:35:23
Speaker
That's a really good casting choice, actually. Like just like the voice and the register, like, yeah, and even kind of the just like whatever kind of like attitude that he sort of brings to things I think would fit really well there. And he'll be we'll talk about him a little more in future episode of this podcast, Over the Hedge, which I believe he plays the the dog catcher. The hedge. Oh, well, there's the thing is that Hollywood demo nowadays
00:35:50
Speaker
If there's going to be an animated feature, you get big name stars. Yep. You know, I mean, you throw JK Simmons, you know, in there as in a supporting role, but you don't give them the lead. Even if you should.
00:36:06
Speaker
Yeah, well, no, I mean, you could also argue that, I don't know, maybe get some fucking voice actors. Don't don't just hire stars that have barely done any.
Celebrity Voice Acting Debate
00:36:16
Speaker
Maybe you hire the people that do it for a living. I don't know. Call me fucking crazy, I guess. You're fucking crazy, I guess. Yeah. Thanks, executive.
00:36:30
Speaker
Like it just it doesn't make any sense cuz like cuz then cuz you end up with shit like
00:36:38
Speaker
You know, Chris Pratt is Mario. Like, come on. Yeah. Or Chris Pratt as Garfield, which is even worse, because at least at least at least Chris Pratt as Mario grew on me because that movie is not bad. It's not. It's kind of a delight. And I was smiling the whole time and I had a fun time with it. I totally agree with everything that you're saying, but also the movies that I've seen where they've done that, we have been so lucky.
00:37:07
Speaker
that it has mostly worked out. Should voice actors be occupying these roles? Yes. But so far, knock on wood, it hasn't been that bad. We've had some pretty decent voice acting from celebrity folk.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean the Sonic the Hedgehog movies are a notable exception to the rule there, yeah. Those aren't big name stars, maybe Idris Elba is, but Chris Pratt, Pete Davidson, he wasn't a big star, but he's like a flavor of the month type of celebrity.
00:37:45
Speaker
And everybody's like a huge fan of. I mean, he was then for sure. He was staying power now, but I agree with you then. He did kind of seem like a kind of a fad. Yeah, he was still on essay now at that point, right? Yeah, he was. What, 2022? Yeah. Yeah, I don't see him everywhere. Last season talking about staying power, but all right. Because he left and then immediately hosted the premiere of the next season.
00:38:11
Speaker
Right. I think I remember my boy. My boy Kyle Mooney came back this season in the Pirates 2 sketch. What's up, Kyle Mooney? Whoo. Sorry. Yeah, you do like Kyle Mooney. I really do. You're on record. You're on record. Yeah.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, man. I don't know. Like Pete Davidson will pop up in shit like he's he's a James Gunn guy now. So he was in the Suicide Squad. He had a small role in Guardians 3. He was in Fast X, apparently.
00:38:44
Speaker
Still haven't seen that one. You love those movies. I do. I heard Fast X wasn't good, though. But you have to watch it, do you? You spend so much time with those characters. You have to find out what happens. I know. And I don't know if they're going to do another one. He's also plays a transformer in the in the most recent Transformers movie. Bitch, they're going to make another Fast and Furious. Get out of here. Come on, man. Yeah, come on.
00:39:08
Speaker
They gonna make at least one more. Now, if that one bombs, maybe we won't have another one. But come on. There's going to be another one. Let's be honest. Once you've made nine successful movies, like in one of them flops, you don't you don't be like, oh, well, that's the end. We'll back it up. You don't know. Hollywood loves IPs and franchises. Yes. Come on now.
Marmaduke's Plot Complexity
00:39:28
Speaker
You out of your mind? Daddy. Come on. Hey, you guys, let's fucking let's do the plot so I can pee.
00:39:36
Speaker
Because the dice are not going to pick me. They are not going to pick you. You don't think? I'm confident. If it picks me, I'm only going to do it up to where I watched. You're like, then he pooped in the cup. That's as far as I got. Look, I can stretch. I can stretch 20 seconds. 30 seconds. Lord knows I've done it before. I was going to say you've done it before. All right, well, Brett gets the D6 of Destiny. I might as well explain to you, because we've established
00:40:07
Speaker
I still I still have forgotten. Do I? All right, I got dice. I keep forgetting. Fucking somebody remind me. Stephen's got so many dice to the point to where I'm going to say he's a dice collector now, but this is the only thing he uses it for. So he I think we should make Stephen the dice guy now.
00:40:28
Speaker
Friend of the show, Phil Smith, past and future guest was at C2E2. And I was like, hey, man, while you're there, could you pick me up some dice? And he was kind enough to do so. So now I have more dice. Dice are like tattoos. Dice are like tattoos. Once you get one set, you will not stop. You immediately become a dice goblin. I only have one tattoo so far. It's this guy right here.
00:40:50
Speaker
One. I mean, I'm also saying that from a perspective of someone who knows people who have tattoos and say that. Sure. I don't I don't actually have any. So my my friend's husband, when he got his first tattoo, apparently was traveling home thinking about what his next tattoo was going to be. That's what I hear. That's what I hear. So you're the exception to the rule, I guess. I don't know. I'll get another one eventually. I just. Well, we've got to get a disenfranchised tattoo, you guys. I'm in for that.
00:41:20
Speaker
One of you can get a second one. Oh, man. Hey, if anyone would like to design the disenfranchised tattoo, we'll make it a contest. No, no, no, no, no. I know exactly what it is since Brett's not getting it. If Brett's not getting it, the official disenfranchised tattoo is going to be real big across our chest in old English lettering. Brett sucks.
00:41:45
Speaker
unless Brett gets the tattoo, and then we'll make it something. We'll make it a contest and we'll have to look. It's supposed to be incentive for me to get one. Yes, but we're actually going to put like your full name and your social security number and stuff on there, too. Like it's going to be like if we have a list or pictures of ourselves, your identity. Yeah. All over the Internet. Yeah. Well, Tucker and I will start a weird platonic only fans page just so we can show our tattoos. Yes. Yes.
00:42:13
Speaker
Cool. Your local authorities and your respective areas over here in the tummy. Great. You heard it here first. What if we did a henna tattoo on you, Brett? You do a henna one and then you'd be like, oh, shit, that looks so good. And you'd be like, I might as well get the real thing on like my butt cheek or something.
00:42:42
Speaker
That's going to be in my forehead, so I'm not worried about it. You know, I would love to do it, but I just can't. I can dig it. I'll allow it. Well, the plot in 60 Seconds is the part of the show where at the behest of the D6 of Destiny or whatever the hell we're calling this thing now. Is it? Did we just transfer the Destiny powers of the D6 to this D6?
00:43:13
Speaker
I think it's yeah. Why would it be? Yeah, it's a different time. Yes. OK, I declare you the actual. I didn't use the same time. Spoilers. I didn't use the same die every time. What? Behind the curtain again. The only way we do. I just grabbed whatever D six was close to me at the time. All right. I didn't really know because he was relying on destiny, dude. That's why it's the six of destiny.
00:43:38
Speaker
Cause you pick it at random. Anyway, I am, I am one and two, Brett is three and four, Tucker five and six. So at the behest of the die, we will decide which of us will be recounting the plot of 2022 is Marmaduke in 60 seconds or less. And the die says it is five. Is that me? That's Tucker. Okay. Well, I'm totally going to do the plot in 60 seconds now.
00:44:09
Speaker
I have to pee first. OK, go pee. I'll put 60 seconds on the clock. Five minutes later. All right, I have 60 seconds on the clock, Tucker. As always, that will give you the 30 and 10 second warnings and your time starts whenever you do.
00:44:24
Speaker
So there's this dog and he is Marmaduke and he's in the bedroom because he's a bad dog and so he can't go to the birthday party but then he busts out the window chasing a bee and straight up like makes the pool water go out of the pool but somehow it floods the whole neighborhood and it's just one pool of pool water which is kind of strange but whatever.
00:44:45
Speaker
And, uh, the dad's like, fuck this dog. And everybody else is like, nah, dude. And so they get this guy to like train him to be a show dog. Uh, even though actually I think it's that guy's idea. He comes to them. Yeah. Anyway. So, uh, Marmaduke shits in the trophy. Stop the clock, Steven. Nope.
00:45:08
Speaker
That's not how this works. Barba Duke shits in the trophy. And so he loses the competition. And the dude is like, fuck you. I don't want to trade you anymore. And so Barbara runs around the world for some reason. Like, I don't know what that was supposed to do, but OK. Anyway, so eventually they pressure him into, you know, joining and then again.
00:45:28
Speaker
And so they go to the the big dog competition, which is really the highlight of the film. Like that's like the whole film was kind of stinky. But like the last 20 minutes was almost OK, because there was some fun stuff there. But yeah, so Marmaduke does not win.
00:45:47
Speaker
the the bad dog the JK Simmons plays one of his trainers was pretending to be a lady so he could be a judge and then they got arrested and so then it went to the shih tzu dog that did a rap while they were doing kung fu which was really cool and 30
00:46:04
Speaker
And then, like, the crane drops on Marmaduke and everybody thinks he's dead, though nobody checks. So they just immediately go into a eulogy instead of like checking to see if this dog is fucking dead or not. And by the time they're done, Marmaduke's like, boo, goo, goo, woo. And they're all like, Marmaduke. And like, everybody's happier than Pete Davidson raps. And there's like this shitty, good Charlotte sounding song. And then there's a really cool instrumental. And then let's see in the movie. Two fucking minutes.
00:46:35
Speaker
It's a complicated movie. 120 seconds. No, you know, it's not. It's a complicated movie and no one understands it but Tucker. See, I can't. I can't do the next line because I would have to say your first name and you hate your first name. You can say J L J L or the letter J. AKA the letter J. Some people just call me the letter.
00:47:04
Speaker
That's real. The artist formerly known as the lawyer. No, not all that, but like that's probably implied, though. So, yeah, if you couldn't tell by that plot description, this it's a silly, silly movie. This movie is bad, aggressively bad. Yeah. Yeah. For the record, I stopped watching at the shitting in the trophy.
00:47:27
Speaker
20 minutes in this man. Twenty five. Twenty five, almost 30. Come on now. I remember pausing the movie right after that scene, like when they're in the parking lot fighting over whether or not the trainer is going to continue training Marmaduke. And that guy gets hit by a car like three times. Mm hmm. That was pretty brutal. I was like, are they going to hit the kid next to him next? What the fuck is happening here? Jesus.
00:47:55
Speaker
But I pause the movie around that point and was amazed that it was not even half over. And I'm like, I don't even know where we go from here. There was an hour left. An hour. That was that was part of the thought that made me stop watching. It was also that like, where do we go from here? Because it has to be nowhere. That's relevant. And I still have an hour of this movie left. I don't want to do this anymore. I got better shit to do.
00:48:24
Speaker
Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. No, for sure. I got some help in Fallout 4. Thank you very much. This is better than that Alvin and Chipmunks movie though. That at least had some great background animation. They kept it to just cultural stereotypes in this and not racial ones.
00:48:47
Speaker
Yeah. Except for you mentioned the dog at the end. The shit dude, the raps and dogs come, come foos. Yeah. Every dog has, is kind of an embodiment of their own country. So the Mexican dog is racist. Is a Chihuahua who loves bacon tacos. Okay. Because dogs love bacon and Mexicans love tacos, you see.
00:49:13
Speaker
That was hilarious. Uh, is, um, and it's crazy that there were jokes in this movie. I don't believe you. There's something I noticed and it's crazy that I noticed something so stupid in 30 minutes of watching this movie. But when they're in backstage at the first dog show, like only Marmaduke, only, only, he has his actual name above the section. The rest are just dog breeds. Yep.
00:49:42
Speaker
I noticed that as well. You didn't get to this part, Brett, but they explained in the movie that he is his own breed, which is a not so great dame.
00:49:56
Speaker
Uh, so you could, you could, you could flip that logic and say that he is Marmaduke. Like that is a breed because he's the only not so great Dane. If this weren't a kid's movie, you might even call him a piss poor Dane, but. Yeah. No. I stand corrected. I'm very sorry. Please excuse me. That's okay. No excuses. Finish the movie, bro. JK. No, you can't. I refuse. Speaking of JK, how much money do you think they actually paid JK Simmons to do this movie?
00:50:24
Speaker
Enough what this would have taken a day, a day tops. This is this. He probably walked in, did this with his eyes closed and walked back out like drinking his Starbucks in between lines, you know, asking for pictures of Spider-Man. Yeah. He is one of our greatest utility players. He was he is a guy who will show up in almost literally everything.
JK Simmons: Consistent Excellence
00:50:53
Speaker
and just kill it every time. I'm trying to think of when he's ever been, when I've ever seen him in anything where he's been bad. He's my third favorite part of the Lady Killers after Tom Hanks and Marlon Wayans. Okay, that movie maybe. He's so great at that. Are you kidding me? A movie I'm not sure I can't possibly believe it's that bad. Hey, that's a movie. It's a two and a half star movie for me, which Tucker thinks is,
00:51:22
Speaker
Far too low. I think it is the Coen Brothers movies. I'm not going to say it's the funniest Coen Brothers movie, but it's the Coen Brothers movie that gets the most consecutive laughs out of me. The other ones are more subtle, so they're bigger laughs. But I'm like the other security guard at the casino that Marlon Wayans works at, where he doesn't have any dialogue. He just laughs the whole time.
00:51:50
Speaker
He just laughs. He's just a big guy, and he laughs. That's me through the entirety of Lady Killers. Yeah. Well, there's always one. And JK Simmons is in that movie. He is. And he has a catchphrase. And he has IBS. Mm-hmm. Tucker, do you know that movie digitally? Have we discussed this? I have it on DVD. OK. I keep waiting for it to go on sale on Voodoo so I can buy it and share it with the world.
00:52:18
Speaker
I'll put a little Alert on my just watch app to what if it comes streaming on anything. Oh, it'll give me a notification. I'll let you know Special episode on it and we'll all watch it. I Just like this idea I
00:52:42
Speaker
The thing I respect the hell out of about JK Simmons is he always brings it no matter what he's in. But he's not one of those guys who's like, I'm not going to do something because I have an Oscar, like I'm too big for this now. Like he still does commercials. He is still the voice of the yellow M&M. He is still the farmer's insurance pitch man, like he will do this shit and sell it every fucking time, even if it's
00:53:10
Speaker
something very small, like he is consistently so good. I think you could say that about several actors and one that comes to mind would be Nicolas Cage. And that's how he he keeps like a steady income like, you know, Hollywood comes calling and gives him the big payday. But he's not just sitting around scratching his ass in between. He's doing a day of voice work here. He's doing three days in a little role in this little movie here, like
00:53:40
Speaker
Sam Jackson is another one of those. Yeah, he does that too, for sure. Like that man just doesn't stop working, but he's such a consummate pro. He's the guy that shows up like scene ready every fucking time and gets so frustrated when the other people in the scene are not scene ready. Like when they're still like not hitting their marks, struggling with their lines.
00:54:02
Speaker
He's just like consummate pro, but the fact that he does like five movies a year, you'd think he'd like miss his mark on something. But no, he is always like in it because he is so fucking good. And I definitely put like JK Simmons at that level. Nicholas Cage has done a lot of shit, but he brings it every time. And he'll bet he's like, I've done bad movies, but I'm not bad at them.
00:54:22
Speaker
He at least gives it his all in every single one of them. Because you can never say I give a half-assed performance. Yeah, I've never seen a phoned-in Nick Cage performance. I've seen bad ones. I've seen unhinged ones. But bad ones with passion behind them. You can't be mad at him because he's just doing his best. He's doing the Nick Cage thing. Yeah, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but he always goes balls to the wall and I can appreciate that. Absolutely.
00:54:51
Speaker
Absolutely, and I think Simmons is definitely in that camp. If you can think of any others, email us, disenfranchpodagemail.com. Let us know.
00:55:03
Speaker
Well, go ahead, Stephen. No, I was just going to say you can comment on the official conversation at Patreon dot com slash disenfranch pod and you don't have to pay. You can be like a free member and and it's available to listen to and you can comment on it. Let's see if there's a conversation. I'm just saying that's where you should say it, too. That's where the community is. That's where the fans, the community all out there. If some of us pay, some of them pay, some of them don't. Tucker and I are there, too.
Audience Engagement Encouragement
00:55:31
Speaker
I need to be there more often. But I will be. But yeah, we're we're there. We're participating in that conversation. So if you want a direct line to us, that's how you get it. Or you can email us to at disenfranchipod at gmail.com. Let us know who your favorite actors who are always bringing it are consistently. And he is I would say without a doubt MVP on this one. He is. I don't know. You said Keckner. I gave it to Simmons like he is.
00:56:02
Speaker
He's given way better than this movie deserves, quite frankly. I agree. But I think the reason I give it to Keckner is because he is transforming himself.
00:56:16
Speaker
into what this movie deserves. Whereas J.K. Simmons is just J.K. Simmons in it up. And is he too good for this movie? Yeah. Does he give a better performance than anybody else in this movie? Sure. But Keckner is actively going out of his way to let you know he knows exactly what movie he's in. And
00:56:38
Speaker
Like I said, I didn't even know it was him. How is that him? Well, see, you say he transformed himself. I say it sounded like he was phoning it in real fucking hard. That's kind of where I land on that, too, Brant. Well, see, that's the thing. That's what I'm saying. He did a very generic cartoon voice. Very generic. Or did he just phoned it in? I think you might be giving him. I don't know. I don't. There's about a 50-50 chance is what I'm saying.
00:57:03
Speaker
Look, I'm a David Kekker fan. I think he's a funny dude. Absolutely. But he was giving very, like, Bill Murray and the Ghostbusters video game vibes. Like, I'm just here to collect a paycheck. Contractual obligations. I signed a contract, and I have to be here. Look, Bill Murray didn't even complete that contract. He walked out halfway through, and they had to scrap a bunch of fucking scenes. But, you know, that's Bill Murray for you.
00:57:30
Speaker
Brett, if you like finish the movie, so if you like Keckner, as far as we know, there's like no one's written anything about this movie other than a bunch of reviews saying it sucks like. Like this is not going to get one of those like oral histories, what happened with this movie kind of like retroactive?
Director's Background and Animation Critique
00:57:50
Speaker
No, this this movie does not go as it would because I want to I want to know because these are all production companies that I've never heard of before.
00:57:59
Speaker
Uh, the director has, you know, some stuff. There's some stuff the director has done that we're all familiar with, I feel like. Yeah. I mean, he's, he was a visual effects guy, like did visual effects work on some truly incredible movies, including, but not limited to, uh, James Cameron's The Abyss, Back to the Future 2, Hunt for Red October, Ghost, T2 Judgment Day, Jurassic Park.
00:58:27
Speaker
And then we start like to tow it into some weird territory, Rising Sun, the Wesley Snipes, Sean Connery movie, the Flintstones in 94, then a big old 12 year break from visual effects. And I think that was when he did his leap to directing. He did Spawn, big old leap there before a TV movie called Pixel Perfect and another one called Halloween Town High, Frankenfish.
00:58:54
Speaker
And then he does visual effects on Two Tickets to Paradise. The Dr. Doolittle direct to DVD releases Tale to the Chief and Million Dollar Mutts. He's a visual effects producer on the Donnie Darko sequel, S. Darko, the reason we can never do Donnie Darko on the main theme. No, that doesn't exist. Have you seen that? That's bad.
00:59:16
Speaker
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. No, no, I actively avoided it. Undercover Brother 2 does not exist. I refuse to watch it, so we'll be covering it. There are definitely movies that I think we could make a strong argument for don't exist, OK? Yeah. So basically what Stephen's saying is that Spawn is the only like real movie with actual production companies that we would recognize that this man is ever directed. Correct.
00:59:45
Speaker
Correct. I mean, he's done like an animated boxcar children movie and it's a couple. Surprise Island. Yeah. I used to read the shit out of those books when I was a kid. There's lots of children. It's the shit they look like. Look at this. I mean, this animation, the character design, this is like the Sims level. This looks absolutely atrocious. Yeah. OK, never mind. Click that link. Click that link. Click that link into the uncanny valley.
01:00:13
Speaker
Do it anyway. Speaking of animation style, let's talk about the animation style. We touched on it earlier when Brett asked the question, why do you adapt a comic book if you're not going to or a comic strip, if you're not going to at least try to emulate the visual style of the comic strip?
01:00:39
Speaker
Steven, there's one thing I really want to say about this animation style is that it's U-G-L-Y. It ain't got no alibi, Steven. It's ugly.
01:01:14
Speaker
I think it has to be good is like the qualification. This is not good. It's not good. Yeah. If this movie had been a good movie, I'm sure we'd be talking about how, wow, this is a really weird and quirky animation style that makes it distinct and interesting.
01:01:19
Speaker
that's the other thing
01:01:29
Speaker
Though I will say that the animation itself, even though the character design just made it for naught, the animation itself was smooth and pretty well done, and like the camera work was convinced. For the most part, I agree. Yeah, but those character models just bring it all. It doesn't matter. Like that stuff just looks worse because of how bad the characters look.
01:01:50
Speaker
I can't explain it but like so and maybe either of you who may know a little bit more about computer animation or animation in general be able to explain this to me but like you look at a Pixar movie and it has like a look to it but it has like a feel to it as well and when I watched this that's why I said it was giving me food fight vibes like it feels like cheap
01:02:12
Speaker
Computer animation like very flat like yeah, yeah flat. Maybe that's what it is Like it it felt like the exact it's not far removed from the same type of computer animation the food fight used
01:02:24
Speaker
It's like the difference between, to give you three examples, like a high, middle, low-end animation kind of bracket. Disney has always had, particularly as feature animation, very high-end production values. They're taking the time, they're adding layers, shadows, highlights, things like that to present a more real,
01:02:44
Speaker
image, a greater depth of field. Warner Brothers is kind of your middle, your Looney Tunes, kind of your middle-of-the-road animation. They may reuse some animation styles or some character models, things like that, but generally speaking, and it does look a little flatter, you don't have the depth, you don't have the highlights, the shadows, but you have some of that. And then your low-end, you've got... I'm gonna say Hanna-Barbera. I'm gonna say fucking Hanna-Barbera.
01:03:12
Speaker
I do it, I fucking do it. You son of a bitch, I do it. No, I love Hanna-Barbera, but you cannot argue the cheapness of that animation. And you know exactly what I'm talking about, like the gag where the characters are running and it's the same background just recycled over and over and over again as they're running. That's kind of lends to the cheapness. It's mostly moving lips. That's why it was so easy to do that C-Lab show on Adult Swim.
01:03:41
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. And and Space Ghost as well. That's because that's all they did is they took all those old animation cells, put them in new backdrops or in new circumstances or situations and added funny voices. Bingo bango. You got a new show. Like that's what Adult Swim started lemonade. Yeah.
01:04:00
Speaker
So like, I mean, and it works because it's so fucking cheap. So I mean, that's kind of like your hierarchy. And this, I would put on the lower end, and I would put like Food Fight probably even below Hanna-Barbera, because that shit didn't even get finished. You're thinking like Funmation, or not Funmation, Filmation. Filmation. Yeah, there you go. Like that kind of shit. Ghostbusters, He-Man.
01:04:24
Speaker
Well, no, I'm thinking of something else. And I'm thinking of the ones where like there's barely any actual movement. It's just like their mouths will move. What am I thinking of? There's like a yeah, that's not a summation. Hmm. Like I know you're talking about now, Brett. I did misspeak, but I like clutch, clutch cargo like that shit from like the fifties.
01:04:47
Speaker
I don't know. I just remember seeing some stuff in the 80s like maybe on local television that was just it seemed like static images that just had like animated mouths. I mean, they almost like a motion comic sort of. They did that shit in the 50s all the time. Well, maybe I saw something like that on a rerun probably. I mean, I mean, Hanna-Barbera did its fair share of that kind of stuff. Yeah, but they were kind of slick about it. Honestly, Hanna-Barbera were pretty slick about like they were clever. Yeah.
01:05:18
Speaker
I mean, we talked about the Jetsons movie on this podcast a couple of years ago. Still one of our most downloaded episodes. A thing that boggles my mind. But thank you for downloading that one. We should re-release it on YouTube and we'll get like a billion views. I don't know. I feel like that meme has died. That was one of those like striking while the meme was hot kind of things. We'll bring it back. We'll bring it back. But the
01:05:46
Speaker
I don't know where I don't remember but I mean like there you actually can see them pouring like Disney level production values into those Hanna-Barbera characters and they've never looked better than they did in the Jetsons movie. So I mean but.
01:06:01
Speaker
you know, so there are levels to this. And I would put Marmaduke fairly low on that list. Like I would put it in like down around the Hanna-Barbera level. Now, is there more going on? Yes, but it's still again, it's very flat. It's choppy in places. And those character models, frankly, ridiculous. Like in these days, man, they're hard to look at. They are like all the
01:06:31
Speaker
But that's what I get. I get that like that that that ass and all that. But like it's so ridiculously proportion that I can't even like pretend to think that's attractive. It feels like some of the darker corners of like deviant art were involved in her character design. Yeah, honestly, she's the rule 34 version of the mom from the Incredibles. Right. Exactly. Yeah, honestly, I could see that.
01:06:58
Speaker
Yeah, like it like someone on that animation team like set out to just I'm gonna out dump truck Mrs. Incredible watch this and drew a character model and somehow and I think we talked about this on the food fight episode animators are a notoriously horny lot.
01:07:15
Speaker
There's a silly lot. Someone greenlit that and it never got taken out. And it almost feels like a joke that went too far because either no one noticed or no one cared.
01:07:31
Speaker
And so now we're stuck with it in the final film and it looks absurd. I think the animation in this is to the quality of probably television CGI animation from 15 years ago.
01:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's about where we are in this film, which if it hadn't been 15 years ago, cool. But it's 2022, y'all. Like what's going on? No, I think I think the design of Marmaduke is actually in the end, like the dogs are actually not bad, but they're not well animated. I would say that's my predominant complaint there. Like I don't mind the design on those characters at all.
01:08:13
Speaker
It's just I, you know, I don't feel like they're animated particularly. I thought the pit bull looked pretty cool, I guess. I don't know. It it was a fun design. I think maybe because like my favorite part of the movie is when he lifted the whole building, the stadium, like, yeah, by the bar and like just the stadium. So fucking cool, dude. OK, that was cool, you guys. That was real cool.
01:08:37
Speaker
Someone's some I looked and there are there are a surprising number of five star letterbox reviews for this movie. Oh, I'll fucking bet. Jeez. And I read I read a couple and one of them. It made me laugh. Someone just said the dog lifts the building there. I put in an incredibly secure reference to this movie to prove that I watched it.
01:09:04
Speaker
Oh, here we go. From Walter Kimball, a dog lifts a stadium. That's right, bitches. I actually watched this movie. I'm mentioning a specific moment from it that really isn't in any of the diatribe or polemic. I genuinely love this movie and all of its oddities. I want Marmaduke to fart in my, and that's where it ends. Mercifully, that's where it ends.
01:09:24
Speaker
That that's valid. I don't agree. Yeah, that I did not have a good time with this because it was good. I had a good time with this because it was really, really bad. And I was very, very specific headspace when I watched it. Extremely specific headspace when I watched it. So, you know, to quote yourself from earlier, you were having a doozy of a day.
01:09:51
Speaker
a straight up doozy. And I think Marmaduke was able to, um, just cause it was so bad. I was just like, I'm just going to let go. I'm just going to let go and let this movie take me. Let go and let Marmaduke. Yeah.
01:10:10
Speaker
That was my experience, yeah. It's real bad though, it is real bad. I'm legitimately glad you had a good time. I don't understand how anyone can have a good time with this, but look, I'm also not the target audience. Again, my partner said, at the moment when Marmaluke shit in the trophy, my partner was like, your nephews would love this. You know why? Because boys that age, and I'm talking under the age of 10 here, love poop and fart jokes. It's the bread and butter.
01:10:39
Speaker
Let me come in and say that the biggest reason I think that I appreciated this on a real level, not on an absurd, this is so bad level is because like I said before, for the last 15 years, I have watched so much children's television, like my daughter has been watching the same stuff, like her entire life.
01:11:01
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And now we've got another kid who's watching this like kind of preschool sort of through six-year-old kind of contents. Right. And let me tell you, you guys, if you watch some of this shit that my kids watch, you would be thankful for some motherfucking Marmar Duke. Okay. Sure. I believe in Louise. Some of the I've had to watch just today.
01:11:27
Speaker
Marmaduke looks like Citizen Kane compared to that shit. Ooh. So like Marmaduke, that's what I'm saying. Take my wife's name out your fucking mouth. But I think I think because it is targeted at kids, I can forgive it more because I am kind of a part of that world and have been for a long time. So I can I can kind of compare it to the other shit I have to exist through, whether I want to or not.
01:11:57
Speaker
So to me, walk in the fucking park, dude. Easy movie to watch. Was it bad? Yeah. Was it real bad? Absolutely. Was it fucking terrible? Sure. But I've seen way, way, way worse. I've seen shit that'll turn you white. For real. For real.
01:12:19
Speaker
I have a feeling that was a Ghostbusters 2 reference. No, it was a Ghostbusters 1 reference. Get the fuck out of here. All right. Bye. It's a it's a light show and they're done. Oh, wait. Oh, it's a light show. And where what's going on? And Winston says, I've only been with these guys for a couple of months, but the shit I've seen would turn your hair white. No, it just says shit that'll turn you white. It's it's funnier because it's like a racial joke.
01:12:49
Speaker
Yeah, because he's Ernie Hudson's black. What? Yeah, dude. I don't know if you're American. I don't know if you're sure. Yeah. Good for him. I don't know what we're doing. We wrapped it up. What's the box office? It was on Netflix, dude. It was. Yeah. So this this was after I don't.
01:13:12
Speaker
really know that anyone wanted to distribute this so it got kicked to Netflix and Netflix in their way fucking buried it like I the box office on this guy's I'm I'm not gonna lie to you it's it's one of the lowest I've ever if not the lowest I've ever seen when I searched for this on Netflix Netflix was almost like are you sure
01:13:40
Speaker
I'm glad I went looking for it to find the stream because all I knew of was the live action movie, and that's the movie I thought we were going to watch. So if I hadn't searched on Netflix and seen the animated one, I would have watched the live action one and came to this recording going, what the fuck are you guys talking about? That would have been very interesting. I mean, future episode of this podcast, live action, Marmaduke. No, only Brad watches it, and we watch this one again. No.
01:14:08
Speaker
I will never agree to that. I'll watch this one again.
May 6th, 2022 Film Releases
01:14:12
Speaker
No, I'll be the odd man out. Thank you. But yeah, I mean, this this this movie, oh, or I guess releases on Netflix, I guess I should say on May 6th, 2022, it has no domestic box office because Netflix had no awards designs on this one. So they kicked it right to the streamer is the Irish. The international box office. Tucker, did you look this up?
01:14:38
Speaker
No, it was it was like five bucks. The international box office is one million five hundred and twenty one thousand one hundred and ninety dollars. I can't imagine they put a lot of money into this, a couple hundred thousand maybe. And worldwide, it makes like, oh, I mean, if you're rounding up three three three three million, you know, I don't see a production budget anywhere on this movie. That would be interesting to know for sure.
01:15:08
Speaker
But yeah, you're looking at about a $1.5 million global box office. But given all the people they had to pay and all the various performers had to have been more than a million dollars. Hey, at least they didn't spend any money on marketing.
01:15:26
Speaker
Yes, very true, because Netflix ain't going to market any of this shit like this. Boy, so it opened May 6. Let's see what else opened May 6, 2022. This, but in theaters this time, it was the return.
01:15:46
Speaker
of one of our favorite directors, perhaps referenced in the opening scene of this movie, after over a decade of having not made a film, it's a big budget superhero release called Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness.
01:16:04
Speaker
which opens to $187 million, about $186 million more than Marmot Duke made in its entire box office run. In second place, The Bad Guys, a movie about a bunch of bad guys. What if there were bad guys? That has been out for three weeks and is down from number one. In third place, you've got Sonic the Hedgehog 2 in Spanish.
01:16:33
Speaker
Correct. In fourth place, Fantastic Beats, The Secrets of Dumbledore. Fantastic Beats. Is this a Bismarcky movie, Steven? What's a fucking Rossell movie? What's going on? Fantastic Beats. Is this a ready rock scene movie? Fantastic Beats? Dropping beats?
01:16:54
Speaker
Beast. So I got you. Which one was it? That's the second one or whatever. Second one. Yeah, I saw that one in theaters because my ex was really big under the hair. Girl, me too. I didn't. I thankfully I didn't have to watch the third one because that came out after I like, you know, same together and decided never to date anyone ever again. Oh, meanwhile, I don't date people like Harry Potter. So there you go.
01:17:17
Speaker
Whatever works for you as long as we don't have to have the fantastic beats in our lives. Low five fantastic beats to study to in our lives. And in fifth place, a movie that I saw in theaters with my boy Brett Wright, Everything Everywhere All at Once. Nice. Yeah.
01:17:34
Speaker
And then rounding out the top 10, we've got The Northman, a movie I still need to see. It's the only Robert Eggers movie I've not seen. What if there was a Northman? It's decent. I liked it. I mean, I've heard good things. I would like to see it. I liked it. What am I talking about? I don't know what I'm talking about. In seventh place, The Lost City. That's that Sandra Bullock movie with Channing Tatum and Daniel Radcliffe.
01:17:59
Speaker
And I only know it because I was seeing a lot of movies around that time and that trailer was in front of all of them. All of them. Correct. In eighth place, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, a movie I actually still have not seen, but I use the gift of Nicolas Cage from that movie all the time. For shame. You need to watch it. Such a good movie. You need it in your life. I do. I do. In ninth place, Memory, which is apparently a Liam Neeson movie.
01:18:27
Speaker
So there you go, there's that. He's on the cover with a gun with a silencer on it. And in 10th place, Father Stu. What if Mark Wahlberg was a priest? Oh, that happened? I remember. And then in 11th place, the biggest movie of 2022, it was Morbin Time.
01:18:54
Speaker
Oh shit. Morbius in 11th place. See our episode on Morbius. Yeah. I still haven't watched it. I tried to watch it and turn it off after 20 minutes. Marmaduke better than Morbius. Disagree. I can't sanction this buffoonery.
Marmaduke: Rotten Tomatoes Disaster
01:19:14
Speaker
I can't expect you to, honestly.
01:19:17
Speaker
The Tomatometer score on Marmaduke, zero percent, zero point zero. No critics consensus because they all think it bad. Pete Davidson, by the way, nominated. I, you know, fuck this organization, but nominated for a actor. Yeah, fuck those motherfuckers. The Metacritic score non-existent because four critics have not reviewed this movie. They just on Metacritic. They watched it, but they don't want to waste time reviewing it.
01:19:47
Speaker
People like the viewers watched it. Yeah. No, I mean, why would you? Exactly. And Tucker, would you care to guess the or have you already looked at the letterbox? I haven't looked at it, but you did tell me there were a bunch of fives, so I'm really kind of thrown off. Oh, fuck. Letterbox.
01:20:08
Speaker
Letterboxed, we're gonna go with a in between 1.8 and 2.2. 1.3. Fuck, a duck. Gosh, you fucking darn it. You overshot. I should say there are 222 five-star ratings. There are 4,652 half-star ratings.
01:20:34
Speaker
One of which is mine. Spoilers. One of which is mine. I gave it half star. That's a wow, wow, wow. It's a wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Tucker, what did you what did you give it? You know what? I gave it a two stars because like I said, I could see this, see a kid really enjoying this for a time in their life. And overall, look, this movie was shitty, but it wasn't negative and it wasn't
Podcast's Mission: Finding Hidden Gems
01:20:56
Speaker
bad. Like overall, it had a positive message. So who am I to fucking shit on it? Two stars.
01:21:02
Speaker
Uh, I have only ever given one other movie that in the history of this podcast, the ranking that I gave this movie, uh, I'm going to read from my letterbox review. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard at no point in your rambling, incoherent response. Were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought? Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
01:21:32
Speaker
So that's a big zero for me. That's fantastic. Bravo. Bravo. I can't bring myself to give something a zero. I think I even gave Food Fight half a star. I couldn't. I can't even bring myself to do that. So yeah, I've only given two movies zero stars. The other one was it Food Fight? Well, it was Food Fight. And again, Food Fight is still the worst movie I've watched for this podcast, but Marmaduke, not much better.
01:22:00
Speaker
You always put that caveat on the end. Is there a movie you've seen not for this podcast that's worse? No. Okay, so it's the worst movie you've seen, full stop. Sure. Okay, there we go. We'll go with that. I'm just curious. You put that caveat in there and I'm like, wait a minute, have you seen a worse movie? I need to know. So I can watch it and also hate myself. The amount of movies that I've seen that are worse than this movie could produce a spin-off podcast and run for years.
01:22:28
Speaker
I'm sure there are so many bad movie podcasts out there, though. Like, I'm glad that that's not what we do. Like, yes, we talk about bad movies. It kind of comes with the territory. But every now and again, we like get a real fucking gem. And sometimes it's a surprising gem. And I love I love when that happens. And I try to go into movies like this looking for those gems. But at some point, the movie will reveal itself for what it is. So even if I'm hoping that this will be good,
01:22:56
Speaker
It didn't take me long to realize this movie was not. Yeah, you know, it's a great one. We find those gems. I still remember the gems like Nutcracker in the four realms. That movie fucking slaps and I don't care what anybody says. I didn't care for it, but I'm glad you liked it. Sometimes you run into movies that are actually really great. Mm hmm.
01:23:18
Speaker
And that's what I love about this podcast. Yeah. And I think the thing that puts us apart from a lot of bad movie podcasts is we've got the possibility that sometimes Hollywood just gets it wrong. And there's a great movie that just should have gotten a sequel and never did. Yeah.
01:23:33
Speaker
And when that happens, we'll be there to talk about it because we are the disenfranchised podcast. You can find us on social media at disenfranchpod, mostly Blue Sky, Instagram, Letterboxd, Facebook, and YouTube.
01:23:51
Speaker
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01:24:15
Speaker
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01:24:45
Speaker
Yeah, dude. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on Instagram, letterboxed and blue sky at chewy walrus. Brett, are you doing the socials these days? If so, yeah.
01:25:02
Speaker
I'll occasionally post a thing on Instagram, but I don't. I've opened it once in the past week, and that was just to take a look at tuck mugs, but we'll talk about that in a minute. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, and I posted one thing in the past year, so that gives you an indication. It was fantastic, and I liked it immediately. Well, thank you.
01:25:22
Speaker
Thank you. But yeah, so I just I'm just on letterboxed. That's underscore warlock if you want to see me open that once a week to rate the movie that we watch. Sometimes I'll go see a movie outside of that and I'll rate it. That's cool. But otherwise, I have no presence. So that's all for me. Tucker, what about you?
01:25:45
Speaker
Hi, I'm Tucker, and I'm on YouTube and Instagram at ice909, that is I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero, and the number nine. You can also find me on the Instagram at tuckmugs, the aforementioned tuckmugs, it's tuck underscore mugs, and it's a really rad place. And we just dropped some content the other day that was really, I mean, it was kinda rad.
01:26:14
Speaker
blending three different kinds of coffee rad like and if you're into that kind of thing like wow you're gonna be like really it's a travel mug so not our normal fare kind of a kind of an oddball post but we like to we like to throw those in you know shot glasses and pint glasses and stuff it's mainly mugs but tankers traditional mugs yeah yeah yeah but we accept all kinds of glassware
01:26:39
Speaker
But it's a it's a really nice travel mug and you should check it out. Tuck mugs tuck underscore mugs I still have a couple I'm sitting on so I don't know maybe we'll have a couple more posts in the next week or two You shouldn't sit on mugs. Those are very often breakable because Because your boys so busy I don't even have a fucking minute to sit on my phone and come up with something to say about a damn mug So it's true and you're entering your bit your season man. I
01:27:07
Speaker
You just got to wait till I have an opportunity. I'll find it. Like I'll be like, I'll be at work and like, Oh man, I got to pee. And like while I'm peeing, I'll be like, Oh wait. And then I'll send it to you. Like it could be something like that. Like I'll find the time when the inspiration hits me.
01:27:22
Speaker
It's coming right to you. And or mugs. That is why we also value over at Tuckmugs guest mugs. So if you have a mug that you would like to see featured, send it to us and probably post it. Just write a brief description where you got it. What's in it? And we'll post that shit right up there. You know who hasn't sent me one yet, though, and it's peculiar because they sounded so excited about it when we spoke about it is our friend Noah East from last week's episode. Yeah, I'm calling you out right now.
01:27:52
Speaker
This motherfucker was like, oh, guess mug. That sounds rad. Like he did follow right away. Fucking crickets, dude. Crickets. Look, man, he's he has a child like a young child. Well, you tell me about having a young child.
01:28:10
Speaker
You gonna tell me all that shit, Steven? I am. Is that what's happening right now? That is what's happening right now. I'm just saying, guest mugs. Look, everybody in the world, send your guest mug. I just need a photo of the mug. Let me know where you got it or like what it means to you. And straight up, what's in it?
01:28:30
Speaker
When you check that out, what was in that? Was it coffee? Was it tea? Was it like some Kool-Aid? Cocoa? It could be hot cocoa or even soup. I eat soup out of mugs, you guys, exclusively. I don't use bowls for soup. I don't do that. I don't fuck around with bowls. I don't either anymore. Bowls are for commies and wimps. I'm a mug soup eater, man. That's where it's at. You don't want to fop your dapper Dan, man. No, I don't.
01:29:00
Speaker
That's wonderful. I got it. You're fantastic. You got me. Yeah. I've ever heard my life. My first my first post, my first guest mug post is Diet Coke. That's true. It was. I was in my mug. Brett's done it. A lot of our guests have done it. People that I haven't spoken to in 10 years, I've randomly convinced on Instagram to do it. Yeah.
01:29:28
Speaker
And I haven't talked to them since and that's fine. Just give me your mugs. We're here. We're here. I will straight up Emil MLM Facebook message somebody about some tuck mugs. You're like, Hey, I talked to you so long. What's going on? You got a mug you want to submit, bitch? Yeah, man. If I need mugs, I'll get them. I'm just saying I don't want to have to go get them because I don't want to I don't want to hurt people's feelings.
01:29:56
Speaker
I should I should reach out to a friend of the pod Hope Lickner, who I know drinks from a mead horn on the regular. So give me some hope mugs for sure. Right on everybody's mugs. Give me all the mugs. Give me all the mugs. Tuck underscore mugs on Instagram and maybe coming to some other social medias. I don't know.
01:30:19
Speaker
Thinking about expanding it. We've got, hey, we've got 35 followers right now, so I'm feeling a little like we need to expand a bit. It's time to franchise, you know. It helps that we spend 20 minutes on Tuckmugs every episode. It really does. If you listen to this podcast and you're not subscribed to Tuckmugs, come on. If we start wrapping up an episode and you realize there's 20 minutes left in the episode, chances are there's a really long Tuckmugs promo somewhere in there.
01:30:49
Speaker
So if you want to get these Tuckbug promos down to a reasonable length, you'll follow Tuckbug. Keep dreaming. Because it never fucking happens. If I get a certain amount of followers, I might cut it down to 10 seconds.
01:31:05
Speaker
I'm sure those people are getting really good at just hitting fast forward on their podcast. I would too, absolutely would. Skip 30 seconds, skip 30 seconds. They're still fucking talking about mugs, skip 30 seconds. There's people I'm sure who do that every time like I start speaking probably.
01:31:21
Speaker
And they just said like 15 seconds. Oh, that's fair. Oh, okay. Steven's back. Good. And can we blame them? I don't know. I honestly can't. I'm fine with it. I'm not for everyone is what I'll say. I'm a bit much. Sometimes you've noticed I'm a bit much.
01:31:39
Speaker
And when you get you and I in a room together, it tends to be a whole lot. And suffer the suffer the poor bread. Honestly, I have to be here. Your guys's power limiter like to keep you guys from. And then and then when we had Noah, like you were last week, you were just kind of like.
01:32:02
Speaker
Yeah, there was a lot there's a lot of starting to talk and then being cut off.
Host Dynamics and Conclusion
01:32:07
Speaker
I mean, you got you got three powerful personalities. And I think our buddy, Norvin Klein commented on the official conversation. Is it just me or are y'all just pretending that Brett is there?
01:32:22
Speaker
But, you know, good joke, quite frankly, good joke, man. Look, I'm telling you, sometimes it happens. You know, we have a guest that has, you know, matches your guys's energy and it drowns me out. Go listen to like any of outside of the Van Helsing episode. Go listen to a Hope Lickner episode. Might as well not even be there. So.
01:32:46
Speaker
It happens. These things happen because strong personalities and me don't mesh well. Right. It is important though. It is important that you're here, Brad. It is. I mean, I get it. And we do genuinely and legitimately love it when you are here. You are our Rob.
01:33:06
Speaker
Right. Speaking of Norman, he did. He did say that, you know, he's happy that I'm back. Yeah. You know, that feels good. And we we are. We echo his sentiment for sure. I appreciate it. I'm happy to be back. Yeah, man. We're we're. I need to get better about talking over a motherfucker. All right. Like. Fucking a you do assertive.
01:33:29
Speaker
Oh, OK. Asking me to be assertive is maybe a bit much, but how else are you going to talk over a motherfucker? I mean, you know, we're all around here. That's true. We're bad dudes. We're like wearing leather jackets and sunglasses, hair slicked back. My hair is actually genuinely slicked back because there is very little air movement in my apartment right now, so I am sweaty and gross.
01:33:56
Speaker
What a great way to end this episode. I am. I am so happy and proud of all of us. Good job, guys. It's a good episode, I think. It was. You know what? We make a Marmaduke episode, a really good episode. How did this happen? We're awesome, Brett. I don't know if anyone's told you or not, but we're fucking awesome. Yeah. When it clicks, it clicks. I'm just saying. When it clicks, it clicks. I mean, like, sometimes shit movies happen. Somebody's got to talk about them and who are you going to call?
01:34:23
Speaker
Ghostbusters. Wait, what? Oh, yeah, right. That's that's the answer. We're we're the podcast that that was a Ghostbusters reference. All right, let's wrap it up. Kitten. This has been the Marmaduke episode of the disenfranchised podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy, for my co-hosts, Brett Wright and Tucker. Until next time.
01:34:49
Speaker
Can I please have some of that bacon pizza now? Only if you save some for pudding.
01:35:18
Speaker
you