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Episode 741 - The Dawn Quiz
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Yes, we finally find out what Joseph Michael Linsner's Dawn is about in this episode. And we also take some of your listener questions!
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Righteous, I'm bored. What plaything can you offer me today?
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got one rocket Ajax to bring back his body. Terminate, exit!
Meet the Hosts: Chris and Matt
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to War Rocket Ajax. This is the Internet's Most Explosive Comic Book and Pop Culture Podcast, and we are your hosts. My name is Chris Sims.
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With me, as always, is Matt Wilson. Matt, as soon as you hit record, I thought of a question, so I don't know if you want to ask me yours or if you want me to ask you mine. I can keep mine in reserve if you want to ask me a question.
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Because I don't ask Matt, if you're ah if you're a new listener, which... It's going to be a tough row for you. Like, it's going to be tough. Welcome.
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We're glad to have you. It's going to be challenging, especially this episode. But I don't ask Matt, how are you anymore? Because we all know how everybody is.
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these days.
D&D Species Discussion
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So I try to come up with a different question. And i sometimes I have trouble thinking of it. And only just now did I come up with this question for Matt Wilson. Matt, if I had to be any sentient but non-human D&D species...
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species Any playable species. It's not what I would want to be, but I think I would be a dwarf. Okay. there There's nothing wrong with being a dwarf. There's nothing wrong being a dwarf. They're not my favorite to play.
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But I do like being inside. And yeah i am you could charitably describe me as stout.
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Okay. My question for you is, Matt, what ah non-human species would you be in a fantasy setting?
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My first thought was that I would be a I like that. i so As much as I would like to be an elf, i i' I'm not.
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Yeah, I think both of us have things we'd prefer to be that simply are not true. I'm just not an elf. elf. And I don't think like I'm an orc, or a half-orc, or you know and like anything like that. ah i could probably be a I could probably be an orc.
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But I think I'm a dwarf. i I would maybe probably also be a dwarf. But if I need to be something else, I think... that like i I played as a... ah what are those What are those demon guys called? You're a tiefling.
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I played as tiefling. is weird, because you're straight. Well... you know It's a Spectrum. But I don't think I'm that either. so my first thought is Kobold.
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I don't know how accurate that is, but i' mean that's what going to go with. ah i do like that. Because i I've said before, I'm very happy that D&D as a whole and like role-playing games as a whole have kind of moved away from the idea of species of creature that are entirely ontologically evil, like outside of demons.
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right ah like I think that's a a pretty good move because, look, I'm not going sit here pretend like I haven't read a lot of books about Drizzt Doerden, but having like an entire society oh elves with darker skin that are all evil except one guy who's cool.
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It's bad. It's bad. It's got implications, yeah. However, I do still see the value in a fantasy setting of having ah there be Something that you can just kill without feeling bad.
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And so in my campaign, that's goblins. Goblins are just shitty dudes. Yeah. Like, they are ontologically shitty. I wouldn't necessarily say they're ontologically evil, but they are ontologically shitty.
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Like, it is canon in my game that, like, 47% of the goblin language is slurs. Yeah. Wow. Kobolds, I just play as though they are cats.
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They just kind of like knock shit over. They're like little dragon guys. Yeah, they're little dragon guys, but they're just kind of like, you know, they're mostly just kind of like shitty little guys, but they're alright. Yeah. yeah Alright, I'll take it.
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i that's what That's what I would be.
Episode Preview and Patreon Thanks
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We've got a great show for everybody this week. We're going to answer a question that we brought up in the Every Story Ever special about who Dawn is.
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you You know the series Joseph Michael Lizner's Dawn? We'll set it up more in-depth when we get there, I think. There is a little bit of an explanation if you've fallen behind on our side projects.
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Well, more people listen to every story ever than this. so That's true. That's true. i that Maybe we don't need to explain it to anyone. But we'll explain it when we get to the that segment. And then after we do that part, um which involves some listener submissions, ah we will take some listener questions to finish out the show.
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It's very interactive episode of the Very interactive episode. But before we get to that, Chris, we do have some business to take care of. Our first piece of business is thanking our supporters over on Patreon.
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That's right, Matt. No, these are the people. I feel like I had it last week. I feel like I said everything I needed to say, and I got it right. But now I'm not sure, because i I've done different versions of this for so long.
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But these are the people, Matt, who wanted to support the show. They want to kick in as little as a dollar a month to help us keep doing the show, keep doing things like Every Story Ever, keep doing things like Comics Catch-Up and Movie Fighters, all the fun stuff that we do here at the Clitus Media family of podcasts.
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And to do that, they just go to patreon.com slash warrocketajax. That's where they go if they want to help us out, help the show, help you and me, and help us keep paying those gimmicks they keep sending in the mail called Bill's.
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That's right, Chris. And as a patron, if you're at the $15 level or higher, you can become a member of the Gimmick Street Preservation Society. A noble cause. Which means that you not only help keep Gimmick Street alive and well and thriving and weird, you also get to name or choose what is at And address on Gimmick Street.
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That's right, Matt. So who is the listener taking us down to 741 Gimmick Street? Chris Wellborn. That's my name. has given us the what is at the location of 741 Gimmick Street. This is the last submission I have currently, so if you are at the Gimmick Street Preservation Society level on Patreon, ah please send in whatever you would like to put at an address ah on Gimmick Street to our Patreon, and you will be next, most likely.
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um But what Chris has chosen for 741 Gimmick Street is Vape or Blade. Imagine the mall store third planet, but more glassware and swords.
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Can i iterate on that, Matt? i I mean, that Chris has determined what is there, but yes, go ahead. I think Vape or Blade should be a store where you can either buy a vape or a knife, but not both.
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So, it's like, you walk into the store and there's... a vape side, and there's a blade side. Correct.
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And you can enter one or the other, but once you have entered one, you cannot enter the other. i well i think that like I don't know if you can browse both selections before you make your choice, but you certainly can't buy both ah and an e-cig and a knife.
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In the same visit. In the same visit. They will only sell you one. okay I don't know anything about the store Third Planet, but i I have an idea in my head of what it might be.
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and
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i think there are similar stores around here, ah but i i I don't know about what Third Planet really is. There does seem to be a little bit of overlap between vapes and knives, but a lot of them are like knives with like like eat like eagles on them.
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yeah Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not... Like, I like eagles as much as the next fellow. But... Knives with pictures on them? I don't know if I fuck with that.
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Chris, I don't have any new names to read out for new Patreon subscribers. It is Wake Up, Wake Up, Wake Up the first of the month as we're recording this. We're pretty close to it. And we just did our collection of...
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ah pledges for the month. And as always, the number of paid subscribers goes down because there are people who have like debit cards and credit cards that expired and that kind of thing.
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So we are down to 423 as of this recording. Folks, we got to get that number back up. So go to patreon.com slash warrocketajax.
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Maybe don't tell them – don't give them any accurate description of what we discuss on the show. Because you'll be like, yeah, you should listen to this podcast because it's these two guys, and they spent a lot of time talking about what you would buy at a store that sold vapes and knives.
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ah Even if you can't.
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Chris, with that, now that we've thanked our supporters on Patreon, it's time for Tricks and Treats!
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Chris, how's Tricks? That's right, Matt. It is the spooky season. I'm very excited. It is October! It's October!
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Spooky month. That's It's scary month. And... I did something that was very ah appropriate to the season of of spookiness and and disguises, ah which is that I put on a a costume.
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I put on a a set of of special purpose clothing. And buddy, I went to the Ren Faire.
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Nice. I love going to the Ren Faire. um its It's ah a great time. ah We go early so that we can beat the the traffic, and we leave early because we all like going home.
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And Matt, I know what you're asking. you're you're You're thinking right now, somewhere in that that matt wilson that beautiful Matt Wilson mind, you're thinking, well Chris, last year you went to the Ren Faire and you bought a sword.
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True. And that is true. And I'm sure you're thinking, Chris, did you go to the Ren Faire this year and buy a sword? And I didn't. I thought about it. My particular sword guys that I purchased from last year, they did have a katana on display, but it had already been sold.
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they They really only had the the same kind of sword that I have. And I don't want to double up. If I'm going to get multiple swords, I need them to be i need them to be like,
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Rob Liefeld's 1998... 1996 redesign of of the swordsman, who just was a guy with a bunch of different swords.
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So I did not do that. okay I did, however, buy a very large knife. You sent Benito and I photos of the large knife, which I observed is keyboard length plus.
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It is... it is The blade alone is almost longer than is almost as long as the keyboard itself. ah This is an Elven dagger from Sabersmith, the manufacturer.
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ah Hand-forged. ah the Apparently has a live edge. I have not tested that because I don't want to cut up my finger off. ah But it is of such a size...
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When you say keyboard length plus, including the from from tip of the curved blade to palm, it is longer than my keyboard. Longer than my keyboard is wide.
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And, buddy, I got a 10 key. i got a full 10 key. Yes. I don't mess around with hitting numbers ah that are above the letters. don't mess with that.
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i need my right hand is for numbers. So that should give you an idea. And if you want to talk about the kinds of debates we can have about swords, I think it could be argued that this could be considered a short sword.
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It's quite big. it is it It was sold as a dagger. which is a kind of knife, but I think it is quite big. Okay, you're making exceptions that you would not make for most submissions to 1 to 10 of swords. What I'm saying is there's a debate.
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I'm saying we could debate it. If it was labeled as a dagger... i think I think you, in 1 to 10 of Swords, would say it was a dagger. I would say it was a dagger.
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And I did purchase it as a dagger. I'm saying if I showed it to you and you didn't know what it was called, and I just showed it to and i said, what is this? If you said sword, i would not be mad at you. Okay.
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It's a short sword. it Or it could it could be a short sword. What I'm saying is these are the kind of discussions we can have, not is ah is any stick sword. Yeah.
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Is a non-physical object a sword? We did have an issue on the last one to Ten of Swords where but Kevin Matchstick's bat, which is Excalibur, was submitted.
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and its ah i get Someone pulled receipts on me. Someone pulled receipts on you. You you had said... in an earlier reply on Blue Sky, that because it was Excalibur, that we would raid it.
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But then on the show, you said, no, I'm not raiding that. the The earlier reply was from when we had just started. Yes. and My reply from five months ago was when we had just started raiding swords.
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Correct. And we had not sort of decided the parameters. as As someone pointed out... That was a Chris who had not had who had not had someone try to tell him that Wolverine's claws were a sword.
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That was a young, naive Chris who had not experienced the cruelties of the world that I have.
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So no, we are not ranking Kevin Match 6-pack. Even though it is Excalibur. like I believe I said on the show, I'm not mad at anybody for sending that in But at this point, I cannot consider it a sword. And and so it goes.
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But so i did I did tell that that submitter that we would rank an alternate submission of theirs. That makes sense. Because i did i did I did contradict myself.
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But as we all know... There's only one enemy that I fear, Matt. And it's me. Yes. But your greatest enemy is you would you from the past. Me from the past.
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Me from the past tries to fuck me over all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? Me from the future? That guy's a fucking sucker. Matt, what have you been up to? well or Sorry, Matt, how's tricks with you?
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Well, I have continued to be playing, spending most of my time playing Hollow Knight Silksong. I'm really milking it. I'm really trying to do as... More Hollow Knight Milk Song.
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ah Buddy, you ain't wrong. I have been doing a lot of, like, doing everything I can do before I get to the end of Act 2. I know that there's some stuff that gets locked Or that you get locked out of when you start Act 3.
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And i don't quite know what you do and what you don't. But I'm i'm just trying to do everything that I can ah that i can find before Act 3 begins.
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ah And one of those things was fighting an optional boss... That very much feels like that optional boss in Super Mario RPG that is actually a Final Fantasy boss.
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Yeah, yeah. Because there's so much pomp and circumstance to getting to it. Like, you have to break all these locks that are around a door.
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And it's just it feels very ominous going in there. And then you go in there and you fight that boss, and that that dude is tough. Like, easily the most difficult boss in the game that I've faced so far.
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um But still still having fun playing Hollow Knight Silksong. I have also been watching Peacemaker Season 2. so I sort of watched the whole thing.
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And you will notice that i have not I'm not recommending that right now, or I'm not making it a treat right now. Not because I don't like it. um It is largely fun.
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But I really got to see how these last two episodes stick the landing on it. um Because there is an alternate universe this season that I won't give away to you, Chris, what alternate universe it is. But it is very much a known alternate universe from dc Comics. Yeah.
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Well, now I'm very curious, Matt. If you want me to tell you off air, I will. But I feel like it is it's too spoilery to say on the show at this point. um But it yes, it's it is interesting. There's also some stuff this season. There's a character played by Michael Rooker that like I don't love the jokes around that character. And I feel like it is like edging toward...
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offensive. like it It's one of those things where it's lampshading it by having all having all the characters point out that he's offensive, but I don't think that fixes it.
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is he Is he playing a known Detective Comics Comics character? No, he's playing a new character. okay ah his His character is named Red Saint ri say Wild.
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The idea is he's an eagle hunter. Okay. Because, you know, Peacemaker's got an eagle sidekick, so this guy's an eagle hunter. But, like, he's a white guy who wears, like, some Native American stuff and has, like, braided hair.
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He's not in, like, full headdress or anything like that. But, like, he's definitely, like, appropriating some stuff. And there characters who say he's appropriating. But, again, i don't know that that makes it – don't think that makes it okay.
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You know what I mean? um And apparently he had to be recast. Like that character had to be recast and and totally reshot because whoever played him to begin with, there were problems. I don't know.
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um So there's stuff about the season that's like, that I don't quite know about, but you know, I have liked what I've seen so far for the most part. So that's what I've been up to, Chris.
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ah What is your treat, Chris? ah Matt, you know you know what my treat is. Because my treat, buddy, it's Hades 2.
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so Okay, so you pre-recommended it last week. I pre-commended it, yes. And now you're post-recommending it. i am. I don't know if I'm post-recommending it. It's definitely post-purchase. It's mid-play.
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love this game. Here is what I will say. Here is my spoiler-free review all right of Hades 2. Let's hear it. It is Hades 2. two Okay.
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it is It's Hades, but 2.
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ah So like there's there's more of it. like It's exactly like Hades, but there is more stuff. And dogs. and And even more dogs than there were in Hades 1, a game that famously has a dog.
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ah For a slightly more ah spoilery review, and you can skip ahead because this will be brief, Matt, I believe you have not played it yet, correct?
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I have not played any of it. I've only been playing Hollow Knight Silksong. ah Okay. Okay. If... Folks, if you want to be completely spoiler-free, skip ahead.
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Just hit the 30 seconds button.
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I don't know how many times you were playing Hades and had the thought, I wish I was playing as a lady and she could do a Kamehameha and also go Super Saiyan.
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you You did mention this last week, yeah. Yes. I think I mentioned it to you only, but that is what Hades 2 is. that That game quite literally has that in it.
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and ah Game the year. Game the year. Good game. I could talk about it. We might need to do some Boko because there's so much great stuff and so many cool little touches that I feel like I could go on forever.
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ah But you have not played it yet. ah AC is actually playing it on Switch and I'm playing it on Steam Deck. So every now and then we'll look up and be like, oh, have you done this yet? Have you done this yet? Did this happen?
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And it's it's been very fun. We're both very, very pleased with it. if If we do some Boca, we can each talk about, it in depth, about ah the the games that we had to buy as soon as they came out recently. yeah yeah I can talk about Hollow Knight, and you can talk about Hades.
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yeah ah Matt, what's your treat? Well, Chris, as I say all the time on the show, I like to watch YouTube videos while I work because i you know I need something to keep me from my thoughts.
00:27:42
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And lately, the YouTube videos that I've been watching, i've I've been watching some Wrestling With Regret videos, even though I'm not... i got I got a little bit of beef ah yeah with Brian Zane. right now i am ah I'm a regretter.
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i enjoy ah the Wrestling with Regret videos. I got recommended a Wrestling with Regret video that was specifically which champion was better in 1990, Sting or the Ultimate Warrior.
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And he chose the Ultimate Warrior. I mean, yeah, that's... Well...
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yeah Yeah. I cannot sanction this. I mean, look, it's not like you were saying who's a better wrestler or human being. Is it great that he had a feud with the Black Scorpion?
00:28:34
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No. Black Scorpion, Matt, I've gone back and watched some of those recently. I was on our buddy Gavin Jasper's ah podcast, Zeros of Wrestling, where he's watching the ah lowest rated match from every pay-per-view.
00:28:48
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yeah Great time. Gavin's great. You should give it a listen. ah One of the ones that I watched was the one that had like the Black Scorpion doing stage magic. It's rough.
00:29:01
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It's not good. the The whole Black Scorpion thing is not good. I i i can i can admit that. But I would rather watch any Sting match than even the best Ultimate Warrior match every single time.
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I mean, the Ultimate Warrior match going short. I mean, it will be short, and the Sting match could be as long as 30 to 45 minutes, especially if it's a Clash of the Champions one, one of the greatest matches of all time. Because Sting is such a better wrestler than Ultimate Warrior.
00:29:38
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I mean, yes, you're correct. Anyway, i I do like wrestling with regret for the most part. That video just made me mad.
00:29:47
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Matt, it wouldn't be talking about wrestling on the internet. That's true. If nothing you mad. You got a point there. um But the other thing I wanted to recommend, aside from just generally wrestling with regret, is um that Tim Heidecker has a show on YouTube called Office Hours Live.
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And it's ah it's a generally very funny show. Like, just when they do a regular episode, they'll do, like, a live stream of that's, like, an hour and change, where they'll, you know, just it kind of goof around. But every once in a while, he also does, like...
00:30:24
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an episode that parodies some other thing. like He did an episode where it was a parody of the Bill Maher online show where he like smokes weed and annoys people. don't know if he smokes weed on other things, but he definitely annoys people on everything he's on.
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That's fair. There was one recently where it was Tim and Eric Wareheim And ah they are – I don't even know what it's a parody of.
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But it is – they're sitting in these chairs that are like right next to each other. It's it's such a weird-looking shot of them together on on stage or like on camera.
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and And they're just talking about Eric's book – about steakhouses and a lot of the conversation is about a steakhouse that they went to in Charlotte. Um, it's, it's very funny and very good.
00:31:22
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Um, because it's like, they're both kind of like play acting ah talk show. Um, and also John C. Reilly calls in, ah it's very good. So if, if you haven't watched a whole lot of, uh, office hours live, especially the episodes with that are like parody episodes, I think are, are worth watching.
00:31:43
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With that, Chris, now that we've done some tricks and treats, it's time to talk about some comics. What do you say? Let's do it.
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Our texter's choice for this winter for this week, Chris, is Absolute Evil No. 1, a comic that you immediately texted both Benito and I about because you said it it was very brave for Al Ewing.
00:32:14
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to write a comic that immediately shows that Hawkman sucks. Yeah. In page one, al Ewing's out here being like, hey, you know who fucking sucks? Is Hawkman.
00:32:26
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yeah Absolute Hawkman sucks. the very first thing that happens is he he names names during... the McCarthy hearings.
00:32:39
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Yes. And what we find out over the course of this is that there are that there is a history in the absolute DC universe of superheroes that goes back to the Golden Age, at least.
00:32:59
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But that they have all been bought off Killed. Prevented from doing the things that they would have done at in the regular DC universe as superheroes.
00:33:16
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Or, in the case of Hawkman, they're just shitty people. Yeah, they're they're fucking stooges. Yeah, full garbage stooge.
00:33:27
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And now, the problem is that they've got like these five or six people... That they don't know how to deal with them.
00:33:41
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Because there's like... They're like, yeah, well we don't know how to... We can't buy off Superman. um right like the the This is by Al Ewing and just set but Giuseppe Communicoli and Stefano Nessi.
00:33:54
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And there yes, so most of this issue is... A group of villains sitting around a table... trying to figure out what they do about these heroes.
00:34:07
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So it's, it's Veronica Kale. It is Hector Hammond. It's Ra's al Ghul, which is pretty great. Uh, it's, it's the reverse flash.
00:34:22
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And who's that other lady? The other lady is Veronica Kale. The one you've missed is the Joker.
00:34:31
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Oh, okay, okay, okay. They're all sitting around talking about how they don't know what to do about these heroes, because 30 years ago, they either convinced – either they killed the original Sandman, Wesley Dodds. That's not 30 years ago. That's 1938.
00:34:51
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That's, yeah, 80 years ago. Yeah.
00:34:55
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that's yeah eighty years ago um Or like Wildcat, that was more recently. No, that was that was in the 40s. um Wildcat gets like paid off and takes the money and goes. yeah Iron Monroe is the one who ends up just kind of like a pariah.
00:35:13
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Yeah, they they they ruin him. yeah They didn't even have to pay Hawkman. No. Hawkman did it for the love of the game. But what they say about...
00:35:26
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Batman is, he didn't take the money. Yeah, like Joker, who doesn't like jokes. Which I think is simultaneously like the funniest and also worst thing about this comic.
00:35:39
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Because I know that's like... He's always serious. Or she's always serious.
00:35:47
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No, he's a guy, right? Oh, okay. who Who's Eobard Thawne, then? i always I thought that was Eobard Thawne. Yes, but that's that's the blonde lady? That's the blonde lady, yeah.
00:35:59
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That's Eobard Thawne. Okay. yeah Now I know who's who. is who okay or Or, what's her name? Whatever her name is in the absolute version. Thawne. Yeah. be yeah like ah There's a lot of, like, he never jokes.
00:36:13
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Okay, now that i know that so and now that I know that that's the Joker, that's very funny. Yes. Like i said, it's like it's it's one of those things. There's a lot of stuff in Absolute Batman that's kind of like on the verge of like, this is fucking great.
00:36:29
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It's dumb as hell. He's got an axe on his chest. like I mean, that comes up in this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. but ah But they're like, yeah, what do we do about these guys? We should all team up and ah be like villains.
00:36:45
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Well, they call themselves the Justice League. Yeah. Yeah. but and why do they call themselves the Justice League? Well, you might have thought, hey, this book sounds like it's a lot of people sitting around talking about the events of the comics that you have already read.
00:37:00
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And you know what? That is true. There's a lot of that in there. You know what else there is?
00:37:06
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there's There's the evil particle. Yes, the Omega particle, which is a particle that has ah moral element to it.
00:37:18
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it's it's so It's such a powerful particle that it has a moral dimension. Yes. It is the it is described as the building block of creation in this universe, and it is the Omega particle.
00:37:35
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And we find out that the absolute universe has what is described in the book as a moral gravity where the natural state of the universe is to be shitty.
00:37:51
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The natural direction of the universe is to be a bad person. and The Joker is explaining this. He says, fucking whips, dude. It's total inversion of the universe. trend in one direction and now we know that include societal forces gravity distorts the universe and so the river runs the curtain falls the yoke is heavy we accept man is tethered to the earth we do not believe a man can fly that fucking we dude it it's it's a total inversion of
00:38:25
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the dc universe and And they obviously have the Justice League headquarters. like It's revealed that that's where they're meeting. And I can't i can't tell if it's just like meant to be in shadow, or if it's the Justice League headquarters, except it's black instead of white.
00:38:43
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i think it's I think it's supposed to be black. I think it's supposed to be like a total inverse. ah Hilarious. ah Also, we we should mention Brainiac...
00:38:54
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isn't there, but he's like watching remotely. He's on Zoom. Yeah, Brainiac's the secret member, and then he gets another secret member, who I think was not a surprise, but was introduced in a very fun way.
00:39:07
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we We tend to spoil things in these comics reviews, so we'll say it's Mirror Master. And then um they call up another surprise member who is... Okay, another inversion.
00:39:21
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This is the last page reveal, so if This is absolutely a spoiler. It's Lex Luthor, but he definitely lives on a farm in Kansas.
00:39:31
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yeah wearing Wearing red and blue. Yes. And there's a and On that last page, the clouds are forming an omega behind him, which is very choice.
00:39:46
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Yeah, Giuseppe Kimmicholi does like a real bang-up job with this. Excellent work here. i I really love this. like i i I have talked before about how much I enjoy living in a comics reading landscape where it has now become like morrison's Morrison's the touchstone for so many people.
00:40:14
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And Al Ewing, I think, is very much one of those people And, like, fuck yeah, the the particle that ah the particle that is evil in cynicism and that keeps societal forces?
00:40:29
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Like, dude, some fucking weird invisible shit? Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Which is like, you know, like the... the It's like the anti-life equation happened.
00:40:41
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Yes. and And infused evil into everything. Yeah, I mean, I think that is the, if if not, like, kind of outright stated, but, like, that is definitely the implication just by it being, you know, the Omega Particle and everything. But, like, yeah in the regular DC universe, you know it's the final crisis, like, superheroes are the multiverse's immune system.
00:41:02
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And this is like, a universe where...
00:41:08
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the the superheroes are kind of the invading pathogen. Yeah, they're the virus. Yeah, which that fucking rules. Yeah. That is dope as shit. I love it.
00:41:19
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Also, just just to mention, this issue introduces and kills ultimate Oliver Queen. Absolute Oliver Queen.
00:41:31
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Yeah.
00:41:33
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Yeah. so you know? Yeah, because that's how they deal with shit. Doing big things. Big moves. Next up, we're going to talk about Batman number two.
00:41:45
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ah This is the second issue in the Matt Fraction run on Batman. And issue two, right out of the gate, immediately, ah Tim Drake gets fucked up. He gets shot in the gut by a cop.
00:42:04
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By cops? Yeah. And then Batman gets fucked up. He gets shot in the head with a shotgun a cop from behind yeah by a cop.
00:42:18
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And this is all setting up a status quo where Batman and Robin are fully persona non grata with the Gotham City Police Department.
00:42:31
Speaker
A couple things, Matt. A couple things about this comic. First, the kind of important thing, which I think is that this comic is a great reminder that even the cops who don't like the other cops are bad.
00:42:46
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Yes, yes. the the there's There's one cop who's who thinks his partner is going too far, but he still sucks. Yeah, he still sucks. And that guy doesn't like the other cops because he's like, Commissioner Savage can't tell us what to do.
00:43:00
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So there's that. Two, related, and I actually texted this to Fraction, um and that is that at one point Robin goes to get away from the cops and he uses like a flashbang to a smoke bomb, and the sound effect is fash.
00:43:18
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and And I texted Fraction because I was like, it's extremely nice. And also, ah appreciate the subtlety. Yeah. oh The other thing is, I've known Fraction for a long time. I've known Fraction coming up on 20 years now.
00:43:33
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You know, friend of the show. we I haven't asked him. We haven't talked. I would not presume to say without knowing if the Batmobile having a secret 13th gear is... I don't think it's just for me, but I do think there had to be a moment where...
00:43:57
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You know, where he's like, hey, you know who's going to like the Batmobile Secret 13th gear? ah You know who loves that shit? well it Okay, so Jorge Jimenez is doing the art here.
00:44:09
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Beautiful. Like, absolutely. Like, really great. Yeah, I love the way he draws Tim in this issue, too. Yeah, the there's a bit where Batman, like, puts down tire spikes.
00:44:21
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ah Because, like... After he Tim gets shot, he gets arrested and put in like a like a transport vehicle that's like this weird big like Hummer thing. Yeah, the ah the the name of the issue is Robin Rides the Black Mariah.
00:44:38
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Yeah. And they're like... you know driving rough to make it even harder for Robin, and he's having to fight all these criminals in the back and all of this. And so Batman puts down tire spikes, bat spikes is what they're called in the issue, that um you know take out the tires of this vehicle.
00:44:58
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And then on the next page is just Batman pulling up the spikes, and Jorge Menezes makes him look cool as fuck doing that. Yeah. like it ah It is...
00:45:09
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An incredibly cool drawing of Batman. Yeah. I mean, in all fairness, he is Batman, so it's pretty easy to make him look cool, but he makes him look extremely cool.
00:45:21
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Yes. So there's just this like one panel. when When Batman mentions that the Batmobile has 13 gears, there's just this one panel of the gear shifter that is awesome.
00:45:38
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Yeah. Because it's got like, because Batman says like there are nine regular gears and then there are three quantum gears for use during spatio-temporal crisis events.
00:45:52
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And then there's one secret gear. And you can see which gears are which on the shifter. That rules so much. Got secret 13th gear, Matt.
00:46:04
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Secret 13th gear.
00:46:07
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Ugh.
00:46:09
Speaker
The best. The best. Fucking love Batman. Yeah. I love him. Like, I don't know if this whole run is going to be Batman vs. Cops, but I wouldn't mind if it was.
00:46:23
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Yeah, man. ah Matt, now you wanted talk about a comic that I have yet to read. Yes, I read Venom 250, despite it having ah someone I completely hate on the cover. Because Null is there.
00:46:40
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And fuck him.
00:46:45
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What did Null ever do to you, man? Sucked.
00:46:50
Speaker
Ugh. Disgusting. Null. Ugh. But the contents of the issue are pretty pretty good. um So Mary Jane, who is Venom, is but essentially learning what it's like to be Peter.
00:47:06
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There's a whole thing in here about how like she's like... neglecting a lot of her personal responsibilities because superhero stuff keeps getting in the way all the time.
00:47:16
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She gets offered by her agent to be in the next Lobster Man movie. You remember when Mary Jane was in the Lobster Man movie? i do remember that.
00:47:28
Speaker
This brings that back. Oh boy. But she's not going to be the love interest in the new Lobster Man movie because they're rebooting it. She's going to be the hot aunt.
00:47:42
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That's very fucking funny. That's pretty funny. it We got one Al Ewing book earlier that's like very kind of serious, so to speak.
00:47:52
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This is Al Ewing just like cutting loose and being funny. and Man, I love that. That it that is an absolute hoot. um But as all this stuff is going on with Mary Jane, and she's getting attacked by Madame Mask and everything, there is a Skrull soldier who is um investigating some stuff that's going on vis-a-vis Null.
00:48:20
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Captain Regars is his name. And he's got um non-standard hair for a Skrull. um But he um gets attacked by some Krees who are also symbiotes.
00:48:34
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And he's like he knows some shit is going down with Null. So he's on his way to Earth. um He arrives on Earth just as um stuff is really getting real with Venom and Madam Mask.
00:48:46
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And then we see where this is going. We we get our scene with Null. And unlike the cover where he's fighting Venom, um this Null is in captivity.
00:49:02
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And in particular, he's being held captive by the new Queen in Black. who um is a big step up, let me say that, ah from from Null.
00:49:16
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ah if If this is going to be the antagonist of Venom going forward, I'm i'm totally into it. I said Al Ewing. The art in here is by ah Todd Nauck and ah Terry Dodson.
00:49:30
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So a very kind of early to mid-2000s looking comic. Terry Dodson even puts in a Jay and Silent Bob cameo. Oof. Yeah.
00:49:42
Speaker
So, like like, I'm all for Null, but man, that's that's a rough one for me, bud. Listen, we we all gotta live with seeing characters we don't love.
00:49:55
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Alright, Chris, those are our comics reviews. Which means we're gonna talk about Dawn, and then we're gonna take some listener questions. i can't wait.
00:50:15
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um
00:50:20
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So here's the situation. A few months ago, we got on the idea of potentially reading Cry for Dawn, which was a and anthology series by Joseph Michael Lesnar and other creators.
00:50:39
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Or the book that's just called Dawn, that I think is just a narrative series about the character Dawn. um But we remember seeing the ads for the series Dawn in Wizard Magazine all the time.
00:50:56
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Yeah, i feel I feel like it was weird of you to start the story a few months ago and not in mid-1996.
00:51:04
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We were recalling constantly seeing ads for Dawn in Wizard Magazine. Yes. And no way like knowing nothing about the character, I honestly i don't even know if Dawn is her name.
00:51:22
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like I believe it is. I believe it is. but I might sound, to the fans of Joseph Michael Lindsner, I might sound like all those people who are like, yeah, my favorite superhero team is The Watchmen.
00:51:33
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So... So...
00:51:39
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We asked on the last Every Story Ever special, with little to no knowledge of Dawn, aside from what she looks like, because we've seen...
00:51:51
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art of her in Wizard Magazine a lot. What is Dawn about? And send us a multiple choice three options with one of them being correct.
00:52:05
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And we got two of those within the last few days. Yes. ah We got one from long time listener, Dan Casino, who used to also contribute ah to Xenowarrior Business, a podcast that I did with Ali Stock for a very long time.
00:52:22
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And I gotta say, like, I'm a little sad that i I read this one first because all of them are so convincing.
00:52:34
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like It could legitimately – Dan took it seriously. Dan gave us three premises that very easily could have been a comic wizard magazine loved in 1996. Well, Dan is a professional. Dan is a professor of government and politics ah in New Jersey.
00:52:54
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So he took the assignment seriously. Yes. ah The other submission is from Robert Secundus. We're going to read that second, but we're actually going to guess based on Dan's submission.
00:53:11
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Dan also sent in ah ah set of submissions, then realized that he needed to include stuff about ah what appeared to be a chain wallet that Don was wearing. That makes me feel like Dan wrote all three of these in between the time that we asked for that and the time that I said, also, you have to include the chain wallet.
00:53:32
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Probably. So here are Dan's three options. Option a Dawn is a magical construct resulting from the energies released by the Salem Witch Trials, which parenthetically involved real witches, but they weren't bad.
00:53:49
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Having escaped hundreds of years of imprisonment in the present day, she seeks vengeance against the reincarnated evildoers who killed the Salem Witches, who are in service of a greater evil, and begins to explore her own humanity.
00:54:01
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She can change her appearance to blend in with the exception of those with the expectations of those around her in order to hunt them unobtrusively, which is why she sometimes is wearing jeans and a chain wallet, and other times a diaphanous gown.
00:54:14
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Chain wallet mentioned. Good job. Option B. Dawn is the literal goddess of Dawn, and is the source of witch's magic.
00:54:25
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She is searching for her lover, the god of death, who's been reincarnated without any knowledge of his true identity.
00:54:44
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dawn is the latest incarnation of a powerful entity. A young mother who seeks revenge for the death of her daughter by turning to black magic. Other women have taken on this mantle in the past, and the anthologies tell their stories.
00:54:57
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Her wish for power and vengeance is granted. But now she must find a way to appease the dark powers that that granted her power while trying to retain her humanity and help women in danger from a cabal of sorcerers who steal women's natural magic powers for their own benefit.
00:55:13
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Her outfit varies but always includes a complex set of symbols, including skulls, chains, and roses, each of which represent her aspects of her power and responsibility. Okay, so I did not read the second set of submissions we got because I was like, if if there's overlap, I will know which one it is.
00:55:33
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And I wanted to make my guess legit. I did not read them closely, but I skimmed the second set of submissions, and from what I could tell, there was no overlap at all.
00:55:47
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i I love that. I love that for us. ah So do you have a pick from this set? My guess is B. Okay.
00:55:58
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What is your guess? Yes. ah ah My guess is C, and I have reasons if you want them. Okay. Yeah. ah First of all, it's the longest one.
00:56:10
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Yeah. And I feel like like summing up the actual comic would take more time than coming up with a premise that it could be. ah I also, one of the pieces of imagery that we have not really discussed with Dawn is she's got the tears.
00:56:31
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Because you cry for Dawn. So she's got those makeup tears. She's got makeup tears under one of her eyes. Yeah, you know, like she's either in prison or The Undertaker in 1997. The Undertaker drew like a Like a little teardrop tattoo on his face.
00:56:50
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I absolutely do remember that, yes. Yeah, that was a rough time. So I think that incorporates that element of it, as well as the skulls and roses in addition to the chain wallet.
00:57:03
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In a way that makes the chain wallet relevant. Okay, here's why my answer is B. Okay. It's the shortest. Okay, and okay. I don't think there's actually that much to Don as a character. Okay.
00:57:18
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But I also think that like the notion of her as ah goddess looking for her lost love who doesn't know who he is... who he is sounds like the kind of story that would be in one of those comics.
00:57:35
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Okay. okay i mean That's a smart answer. like I will say, it's sometimes much more fun to write what like ah like what the comic might be than what it actually is. Yeah.
00:57:46
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i I'm going to guess. so i do I do know this context. I didn't actually read it, but somebody posted in our Discord that in the back of an early issue of Cry for Dawn,
00:57:59
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there is a like a page like a text page written by Joseph Michael Linsner. And according to that person on our Discord, Joseph Michael Linsner seemed to know about as much as what Dawn is about as us.
00:58:16
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Great. I mean, look, I can't fault the guy for being like, I just want to draw like a hot lady. A hot, red-headed lady who's kind of goth.
00:58:27
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And I'll come up with a story. Yeah. Look, if if I had honed that vital talent, if if if I had any natural talent for drawing that I had then honed, as much as Lindsner clearly has, that's probably what I would do.
00:58:41
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Okay. Do you want to know what Dan says is the correct answer? i I feel like we should read Robert's submissions as well. Okay, we put in our guesses.
00:58:53
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I put in my legit guess. Okay. So this set of submissions comes from Robert Secundus, also a longtime listener. Yes. Yes. ah Do you want to read these? Do you want me to take them?
00:59:06
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It's up to you. Go for it, Matt. I love your sonorous voice. All right. Option A from... and And Robert says one of these is true, the other... Or two of... One of these is true, the other two are false. Okay.
00:59:21
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Okay. A... There are two ways to access the fae world that exists alongside our own. Okay. The first is death.
00:59:32
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The second is, well, the little death. Okay. li like like Le petit mort. Dawn is a preternatural detective of unclear origin.
00:59:46
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At times, it is implied that she herself is a fae, or a changeling, or even Titania. But all of these explanations are contradictory, And at the conclusion of the original miniseries, Dawn hints that her true origin origin is much stranger, who uses sex and death magic in order to solve inexplicable crimes.
01:00:04
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While she's not officially a fed, she usually works as a consultant or executioner for the FBI. Supernatural entities, of course, cannot be held by mundane prisons, so she typically ends each case by destroying the head of the criminal in question.
01:00:19
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Her FBI contact often reminds her to be more discreet than she was in 1963 when she was hired to investigate the Kennedy family. Wild. Like, okay, on the one hand, I don't think any of that is what's in the comic, but it's bull it is believable what it could be.
01:00:38
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That it could be. I'm gonna go ahead and say this is this is a no right off the bat, and I'll tell you why. Hit me. There's no way Wizard Magazine wouldn't have talked about... being involved in the Kennedy assassination. Well, being of that, or that you had to so ah ah bust one to get to the Feyreelm, they would have said that. and like they They would have absolutely said that. Also, I don't want Dawn to be a cop.
01:01:13
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I mean, you're putting a lot, you're you're investing a lot into the character of Dawn. I do think, I do think, the one thing that rings true to me is that Dawn doesn't actually have an origin. It's intentionally a mystery, and there's just an implication that it's more mysterious. It's even more mysterious.
01:01:35
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Which makes me feel like maybe Dan, maybe all three of those are real.
01:01:42
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Option B from Robert is all horror anthology posts or obvious but legally distinct fan sit facsimiles exist within the Millennium Bardo, a cosmic factory for fictional suffering.
01:01:58
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Okay, I love the Millennium Bardo. Dawn is one such host who, after centuries at her post, has grown tired of the horror genre. In order to experience something new, she steals signature items from her fellow hosts.
01:02:12
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A scythe, earrings, spectacles, and a real stretch stretch in order to get Rod Serling in there, a tie pin. And uses these items to forge a sword that can cut through dimensions. The design, unfortunately, is terrible.
01:02:25
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By graphically and somehow suggestively plunging it into her heart, she is transported to and possibly reborn into, it's unclear, a new world. She becomes a Red Sonja-esque character in a very vision of New York City called Old York City that makes it clear Lindsner was really into coolon the Kulan Gath Arctic of X-Men.
01:02:44
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That's all issue one. The remaining five issues concern her fighting, seducing, and abandoning that in turn the Borough Barons and one Borough Baroness. of Old York City.
01:02:56
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I do not believe this one, but because this is way too clever and good. i don't believe yeah I don't believe this one because it sounds like some shit I would do. This sounds like it's too meta for her to like combine a bunch of like horror anthology host stuff, but it's a good idea.
01:03:14
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Yeah, and Old York City and and the fact that there's one Borough Baroness, that that's a good touch. That's a great touch, but I don't think it's... i it's It's almost too good.
01:03:30
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Yeah. It's almost too good. I also like the ah the Millennium Bardo. but's Yes. C from Robert.
01:03:41
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In a surreal dystopian future, a kind of barbarian brawl slash purge happens every Saturday in Times Square. Dawn, a.k.a. Gaia, a.k.a. the Virgin Mary, a.k.a. Callie, a.k.a. the Mother Goddess of Wicca, keeps appearing to one man who makes his living by killing people in this brawl and looting their corpses.
01:04:04
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Dawn apparently spends her days doing three things. Messing with God. Messing with Satan. Getting her male counterpart in the Wiccan pantheon, the horned god of the hunt, a.k.a. Death, a.k.a. that guy from the Times Square Purge, to remember who he is.
01:04:20
Speaker
It is implied in the first miniseries, I doubt that future miniseries would continue this specific story, that Dawn and Death are stuck in an endless cycle, that she always remembers her past and her identity, and that he always was forgets, leaving her to eternally seek him out and wake him up over and over again.
01:04:36
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Though it seems at first like her ultimate goal is to push her beloved and transcend all notions of good and evil, the actual lesson that she wants to impart on reawakened Death is that it is healthy for men to cry.
01:04:50
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So that's pretty close to Dan's option B. That's now thats agreed it close, but still very different.
01:05:02
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It's still pretty different, yeah. like Dan did not mention the Purge.
01:05:08
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But it it is Dawn constantly reawakening the god of death who has forgotten that he's the god of death. Also, I like that ah that Robert did not mention Dawn being the actual goddess of Dawn, just that she is all these other goddesses. She's she's Mary. She's the Virgin Mary. that That sounds wild. like i i i
01:05:41
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I can't believe that's what it is, but Matt, please reveal... It is, in fact, based on Dan's email, option B, the option where Dawn is the goddess of Dawn who is searching for her a lover who is the god of death, who has forgotten who he is. Amazing.
01:06:03
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Also, ah Robert says, I have to say, now that I've read the first miniseries, you would probably enjoy Dawn as a comics catch-up. It's not boring. It's not nearly as gross as Cry for Dawn, and it is wild.
01:06:17
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I mean, it sounds like it. It's a very quick read, and you would almost and so certainly enjoy talking about it. um The big content warning I'd have to give you is that a demon says a slur in issue five.
01:06:29
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Okay. Okay. So... so I believe, as I think we've said in the past, Cry for Dawn is an anthology book that doesn't seem to really have anything about the character Dawn in it.
01:06:46
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which Which does lend lend credence to the the horror host oh a bit. like i'm I'm sure that was the inspiration for that. she's She's in some pinups, and there's maybe a short story or two about her, but it's an anthology book first and foremost.
01:07:03
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the The miniseries Dawn, the six-issue miniseries Dawn from 1995, I believe tells this story. um There are also other Dawn miniseries.
01:07:16
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There's Dawn Vampirella. but Of course there is. Of course there is, Matt.
01:07:23
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There is – okay, Cry for Dawn is the book from 1989 that is the anthology. There's Tears of Dawn from 1997. And then there's Dawn Three Tears, which was published by Image in 2003.
01:07:40
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So now we kind of know what Dawn is about. oh there's also Dawn Lucifer's Halo from 2005, which was it ah like a graphic novel. an original graph maybe we should Maybe we should read that for its 20th anniversary.
01:07:57
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Dawn Lucifer's Halo not knowing anything about any other... Yeah, man. Look, we've read a lot of these things. They're all basically the same. I think if we're going to read any of it, we should probably read um the Dawn miniseries that has the described story about the the God of Death.
01:08:17
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Okay, ah fine. If you don't want me to have any fun, that's fine.
01:08:23
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Thank you, ah Dan. Thank you, Robert. ah i I kind of hope more of these come in. If they do, we will talk about them on the show. ah we We know what the premise is now, but ah but yeah.
01:08:37
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yeah Yeah. Maybe one day, once we're done with Monch Squad, Pod for Dawn will happen. Oh, okay.
01:08:48
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i'm I'm actually looking now. um It appears that ah Dawn 3 Tears, or no, not Dawn 3 Tears, Dawn Lucifer's Halo is just the collection of the six issues of the original Dawn miniseries. Oh, see, there you go.
01:09:08
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So there there you go, yeah. There you go. 20th anniversary. Time to read it. Dawn 3 Tears was a six-issue series that took over two years to come out. Hey, man. You can't rush it.
01:09:20
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You can't rush great art. ah You just can't do it. Okay. Now that we have found out what Dawn is actually about, it's time for some listener questions.
01:09:37
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So let's dive into those. All right. ah We could use Delta Dawn for the theme song.
01:09:48
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Quinn... on our Discord, wants to say, can we just reflect on the time in the television program Gotham when pen Penguin became the mayor and legalized all crime in a sweeping policy known as the Pax Pinguina?
01:10:01
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Talk about living in my head rent-free. Yeah, no, it actually kind of rules.
01:10:07
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because they Because it's not just that it's legalized. ah You have to get a crime license. You have to get a crime license, yeah. Yes. And it will literally have on it Like, what crime you intend to commit.
01:10:22
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Isn't it funny how all of the shows, all of the superhero-related shows of the 2010s, in their first season, they all started and they were like, this is going to be a grounded TV show without any of that comic book bullshit. Yeah.
01:10:43
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This is going to be about the Gotham Police Department with no Batman. This is going to be about Oliver Queen and Green Arrow. What a stupid name. And then by the end of those shows, they had fucking Professor Pig.
01:11:00
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Arrow had...
01:11:06
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fucking, I don't know, like, the wildest comic book shit you can imagine, too. buddy like It was part of the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Buddy, Gotham didn't just have Professor Pig.
01:11:18
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Gotham had Professor Pig, and he did a full musical number. Yeah. That man sang Cell Block Tango. ah the the One of the few episodes of Gotham I watched had a full Solomon Grundy story arc.
01:11:34
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Oh, Matt! Solomon Grundy's in there for like a season! Yeah, yeah. Solomon Grundy has a... yeah Buddy, you don't even know about Solomon Grundy on this show. I will say this.
01:11:46
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It turns out Gotham does kind of rule. And I was a little... i did not watch it because I thought it was a dumb idea. And it is a dumb idea. And I was right about that. Well, because it it in the first season, i feel like in the first season, that's what it was. It was like... No fun.
01:12:04
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you It's certainly less fun. And it gets more fun. yeah, man. Gotham is...
01:12:13
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gotham is
01:12:16
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Gotham feels like a prequel to Batman 66 and Batman 89 at the same time. yes It's a weird show.
01:12:29
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the the That show's commitment to
01:12:35
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we're going to have so many Jokers and none of them are the real Joker. they they do They do a lot of them, man. They do like three different ones.
01:12:46
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Yeah. um That's funny. It is funny.
01:12:54
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Alright. Wiki on our Discord says, how good do you think Wolverine's Japanese is?
01:13:02
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It's gotta be pretty good. i would have to think he's I would have to think it's pretty good, because Wolverine is like 100 years old. And he's but spent a lot of time in Japan. so Yeah, man. like he's it's i mean It's probably like you know but like at least as good as Tim Rogers.
01:13:21
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and like Yeah, i would I would have to think. I would have to think. You'd have to think. Pedro Valor on our Discord asks, have you decided on a Halloween costume this year?
01:13:34
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ah we've We've thought about um getting two stuffed animal dogs and making biscuit cerberos. That's fun. That's what we've thought about.
01:13:46
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I hadn't thought about what I might go for as Halloween until yesterday. And literally the thought that entered my head was that I would get a briefcase and I would put a put a bunch of fake money in it.
01:13:58
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And I would be... ah I'd be Harley Race begging someone to take the damn money! That's That's good with that collar? Yeah.
01:14:09
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Those lapels? Yeah.
01:14:13
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Kabuki!
01:14:17
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i ah The only thing is, no one would know what that was. But it would be funny to me. you would have to What you should do is, when you open the briefcase, it's got a like ah like an iPad in there, and you can hit play on the on the video so people can see it.
01:14:34
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And then i know how good your costume is. That's pretty smart, yeah. Dicks later! You and your whole entourage!
01:14:44
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The only thing is, i don't think I could find that jacket. That jacket is one of a kind. God, if you find that jacket, I'll i'll buy it from you, Matt. Yeah. Get it in my size.
01:14:55
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I also, like, i I don't look like Harley Race. Like, I could not. Not at all. mean, are i mean people who look less like Harley Race than you do.
01:15:08
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much. It'd be tough to find. Yeah. yeah ah But I can do the voice! That's the only thing. That's good. um So, I don't know. I'll have to think a little harder, because I don't think that's going to work. um Chris Porkchops But Pumpkin Shaped Alice on Blue Sky says, hypothetically, Cookout and Bojangles do the old combination Pizza Hut Taco Bell gimmick. What is your go-to meal at said restaurant?
01:15:38
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Well, here's the thing. I like... all food at Bojangles more than I like the food at Cookout. The food at Cookout is primarily appealing because it is dirt cheap and they're open until 4am.
01:15:51
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Right, because you can get it late at night. yes like I don't mind a Cookout burger. I would tack on one of 40 flavors of Fancy Milkshake to my order. This is exactly what I would do. I would get my standard two-piece dark meal with Cajun fries and also A peanut butter cup fancy milkshake.
01:16:14
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. but Mine is a Cajun filet biscuit combo. And if I was feeling... don't know, man. If I'm I might tell him to throw a corndog on the side.
01:16:29
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Hey, man. Go for it. Because it's if it's there... ah corridor at cookout, a corndog is a side. A quesadilla is also a side. Yep. Three chicken nuggets, that's a side.
01:16:44
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RattlesnakeKate on our Discord says, what's your favorite weapon in a video game that isn't a sword?
01:16:53
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Jeepers, that's tough. like Do you have a favorite gun in a first-person shooter? Well, I don't play first-person shooters, man. Oh, that's right. You can't. get i I forgot.
01:17:05
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Oh.
01:17:08
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Do knives count? Yes. Are using my strict definition of sorts? Yes, I think so. yeah oh i I tend to like the weapons that are faster.
01:17:20
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like That are usually kind of like lower damage, but hit a lot faster. oh Because I think like you know there's a lot you can do with like the rapid firing on those.
01:17:33
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I'm trying to think of a favorite, but like literally all I can think about right now is Hades. And I will say, biggest problem with Hades 2 is she doesn't have a sword. None of her weapons are swords.
01:17:46
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What are the weapons? mean, that's kind of a spoiler, Matt. Oh, alright. Okay. Fair. Because they get fucking wild. Okay. But I do like, oh in Hades 1, I like the shield a lot, because you can bounce it between bad guys like Captain America. but that's That's fun.
01:18:08
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um My favorite non-sword weapon in a game is from Bloodborne. It's the whirlygig saw.
01:18:15
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That thing is great. There's a thing called a whirlygig saw? Yeah.
01:18:22
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It's a big spinning saw. I can't walk down the dang street in that game, and they're playing clown games.
01:18:34
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There's also, um oh what is it called? There's a big wheel that you can use as a weapon in Bloodborne 2. ah And it's also very good. i like that bow in Breath of the Wild that shoots three arrows at a time. Oh, yeah. um That wheel is called Ligarius' Wheel.
01:18:56
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um it's also It's also great. You just slam down a wheel on enemies. Love it. Next question is from ah Mad Doc.
01:19:12
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What's the coolest thing a wrestler has ever done outside of wrestling?
01:19:19
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Like, not not in the wrestling business. Not on wrestling television, or like in at a wrestling show, I suppose. I mean, I feel like it is pretty inarguably the film They Live.
01:19:34
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That is a good one. Yeah, that is a good one. Runner-up is um what Hangman Page did today. Yes. I mean, that yeah yes. yeah Today, the day we're recording this. You make look like an asshole.
01:19:49
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um No, I think They Live is similar. like It has a similar message.
01:19:56
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But on the day we're recording this, AW Dynamite was last night. And a lot of people saw ICE recruitment ads in the show.
01:20:09
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Now, I didn't see any ICE recruitment ads when I watched it because, I don't know, i they maybe they're just airing regionally? I'm not sure. ah But definitely people saw ICE recruitment ads on episode ah last on the October 1st episode of dynamite.
01:20:26
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And I have not watched a very ah whole lot of w WWE TV lately. I happened to be flipping around the channels ah a few weeks ago, and I flipped by the CW and saw that NXT was on.
01:20:41
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And I also saw a nice recruitment ad within like 10 minutes of watching NXT. So i I guess they're just putting those those ads on wrestling shows in general, assuming that's...
01:20:53
Speaker
shitty young men are watching. um But Hangman Page was like, fuck Ice and fuck Ice Recruitment. um Tell HBO Max and TBS not to put those ads on the show anymore.
01:21:07
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And put up links for feedback to both HBO Max and and TBS. um That's my champion. that's That's my professional wrestling champion.
01:21:19
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Look, I said some of this on Blue Sky, but Between him and CM Punk, one of them ended up having any moral fortitude at all.
01:21:31
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yeah Now, which one? I'll let you guess. Okay. okay Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene on our Discord wants to know, what are some of your favorite D&D house rules?
01:21:45
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Boy, I got some house rules for you. Let's hear them. This is one that I stole ah that is in the 13th Age book as a rule that um one of the designers uses in ah his home game. I think it's Chris Perkins.
01:21:59
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um ah Which is that the DM does not roll initiative. ah Monsters go on 10. And I have modified that to monsters go on 10, bosses go on 20, allies go on 0.
01:22:11
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So if you have an NPC ally, they always go last. Yeah. that i think Anything that that lets the DM roll less is... i ah i appreciate.
01:22:24
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It just makes it a little simpler. um Also, Chris Perkins... is apparently the person who popularized this, ah but i I did come up with it on my own, ah because I feel like it sucks when you get a critical hit and you roll like two dice and they come up as like one and two or whatever.
01:22:42
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So in my game, critical hits deal um the maximum number you would have rolled, and then you also roll damage.
01:22:54
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So you get you're guaranteed to get like a a substantial amount of damage out of it. like If you oh you have a plus one longsword which uses a d8, then when you crit, you roll damage and you would add nine to it.
01:23:14
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So, um there's that. oh Also, one that I think is fine and I do use it, I heard about this one from GDD,
01:23:26
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ah is that potions, when you drink them outside of combat, ah heal the maximum amount of lifebacks. But if you drink them in combat, you do have to roll. I think that makes it kind of a fun little risk-reward proposition to You know, like, if I wait, I will probably get more out of this, but if I wait, I might also die, because I need to be healed.
01:23:56
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um it's It's more of an interesting thing for lower-level play, which is generally pretty interesting. oh And goblins are shitty.
01:24:09
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Those are my house rules. Love it. Love it. I've never ah DMed, so I don't have any, but... I also use specific naming conventions for pretty much every species.
01:24:21
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Yeah. Yeah. ah Let's see. The Boo-stog
01:24:31
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wants to know, what's your pitch for an absolute DC character?
01:24:37
Speaker
Gosh, I don't know. i mean, they've already done 420-pound Batman, so... six and nine sorry Yeah. Oh, that's that's pretty good one.
01:24:51
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um
01:24:53
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Dang, Matt, I don't know. You got anybody?
01:24:57
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You want to know what immediately came to mind? Absolutely. First thing came to mind was was an idea for ah Absolute Hawk and Dove.
01:25:10
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And they have a podcast.
01:25:13
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you're Kind of. like one of them is One of them is circumspect and one of them is gregarious. No, so so um you know how like like originally like the original concept of Hawk and Dove was that they were like opposed politically but um managed to be able to work together for common good.
01:25:37
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right um My version of Hawk and Dove would just absolutely fucking hate each other. And they have a podcast. Yeah. ah I don't know why that's the first thing that came to mind, but that is the first thing that came to mind the Absolute hawk and dove. mean, that's pretty good.
01:25:58
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Yeah. That's pretty good, Matt.
01:26:04
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I don't know, is there anybody so anybody like in the Justice League? haven't done Aquaman yet, but... yeah Well... ah Hawkman and Green Arrow got knocked out in Absolute Evil. Hawkman and Sandman, Wildcat, Iron Monroe.
01:26:19
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Yeah. I'm trying to think like... There's certainly no shortage of third-string DC characters that I like. Plastic Man? Plastic Man.
01:26:33
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Azrael?
01:26:35
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mean, Ultimate Azrael would be pretty fun.
01:26:39
Speaker
He's a different 420 pound guy. Yeah. yeah who i just I go in and I take every issue of Absolute Batman and then I i draw like red on him. Absolute Zoriel? What would that look like?
01:27:00
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ah He would be a biblically accurate angel. he would yes he but But he would still come to Earth because he fell in love with a mortal woman. But he would... his appearance would be based on ah the books of Enoch.
01:27:15
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You know what would be really fun? To Absolute Sergeant Rock.
01:27:23
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Would that be really fun, Matt? Who is just like, like original Sergeant Rock killed a bunch of Nazis, but Absolute Sergeant Rock is just a Nazi killing machine.
01:27:36
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okay. Okay.
01:27:39
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Like,
01:27:43
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dude who does not give a fuck ah about killing Nazis. Like, does that has no compunction. ah That's all I got for him right now, though.
01:27:56
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I mean, that's that's a stronger premise than a lot of books have. That's true.
Music Video Weddings and Cake Destruction
01:28:01
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Mine would be Absolute Dawn.
01:28:10
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ah Which is all of those fake Dawn Origins at the same time. Great. Let's see. Here is a question from Trivialad.
01:28:22
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Which redding wedding and reception would you rather attend? The one in the video for November Rain or the one in the video for International Players Anthem? I think my answer is obvious.
01:28:33
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Easily International Players Anthem. Easily. Because in the one in November Rain, but i mean, first all, the one in November Rain does turn into a funeral. Stephanie Seymour dies maybe at that wedding.
01:28:51
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Also, like ah who jumps through the cake? That's what I was going to say. is like like There's no reason for him to jump through that cake. Yeah.
01:29:03
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But he fucking bodies it. Who is it that jumps through the cake? Is it Slash? It's not Slash, because that's when Slash is outside the church rocking out. Right, yeah, okay.
01:29:14
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But I would be mad. I'd be like, i wanted i wanted cake. Yeah. Like, hey man. Like, i know that I know that it was raining. we could have, like, lifted the... First of all, it's just rain.
01:29:29
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yeah yeah It wasn't like you did not have to leap out of the way of it. And also, if you had grabbed one end of the table, I could have grabbed the other end and we could have moved the cake inside.
01:29:40
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yeah Like the worst that would have happened is what you did on purpose.
01:29:46
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but International Players Anthem, like now that there is like a fight at that wedding, right?
01:29:53
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Well, yes, people it but like people are standing around being entertained during that fight. ah but That wedding has um the members of UGK, Bunby and Pimsy.
01:30:09
Speaker
RIP. And ah Andre 3000 and Big Boy. And multiple members of three six Mafia. And T-Pain. T-Pain is there.
01:30:20
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Yeah. like I can't actually name all the guests. um But I'm pretty sure DJ Paul is there. i i In fact, I know DJ Paul is there. um but Well, DJ Paul is a dog you do not trust.
01:30:34
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You do not trust him. it's But also, um in addition to – I think ah Slim Calhoun is there. he's He's one of the groomsmen.
01:30:46
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And then, for for no good reason, the one white guy, Lucas Haas.
01:30:52
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Well, hey, there could be three white guys.
01:30:56
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If... ah Well, there's another white guy playing the bagpipes, because don't forget that Andre 3000 is wearing a kilt because he's got Scottish in his family.
01:31:08
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I know, man. He looks like Rowdy Piper. He looks like looks like a Rowdy Piper. um Boy, did you pick a question that is exactly in our exact age demographic?
01:31:19
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Yeah. But to me, there is absolutely no question. Oh, oh there is a fight over the bouquet.
01:31:30
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That's what it is. That's what it is. The bouquet gets thrown, and there is... Oh, somebody falls into a cake in that video, too. I forgot! But it's but it's after the case like it's after the cake's been served, right?
01:31:44
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Or is it? ah That looks like a pretty complete cake. Dang! Matt, we just want some cake. I hate seeing cakes being ruined. But like, obviously, whoever's directing music videos about weddings is like, we we got to destroy that cake. Okay, so if you and me want cake, we can't go the November rain wedding.
01:32:04
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We can't go to the International Players Anthem wedding. Nope. We can't go to any professional wrestling wedding. Never. Or any professional wrestling event with a cake. With a cake in the vicinity.
01:32:16
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Yeah.
01:32:19
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That's rough. Like, what other music videos have weddings? I mean, I i probably don't want to go to those.
01:32:29
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does it Is there any music video that's just like a nice wedding? I mean, there are a lot of country music videos with weddings in them. I probably don't want to go to those.
01:32:40
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I probably don't want to go to any of those. Yeah.
01:32:44
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They don't usually make a lot of videos for like the country music I like. Yeah.
01:32:51
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There was that Eurovision
01:32:54
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act a few years ago that did a song called Marry Me that their whole stage performance was a wedding. And it ended up being like ah that like the kind of lead singer was was a lady who was singing. And it was a very catchy song.
01:33:11
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And then um all of her dancers were also ladies, but one of her dancers was the groom with like a fake mustache on. And then they... like you know they kissed at the end and everybody was very excited because they were both ladies.
01:33:27
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And that seems like it would be a fun wedding to go to. But it wasn't really a music video, it was a stage performance. There's a Drake music video for the song Falling Back in which he is getting married to
01:33:44
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I would guess two dozen women. And so um I think he doth protest too much.
01:33:54
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Because none of these are... All of these women are older than he likes, as far as I know. Okay. ah I would not want to attend that wedding, and I can tell you that. Yeah, probably not. I don't care if I do get cake.
01:34:15
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Yeah, if you're going to try to go to a fun music video wedding, I guess the cake's getting destroyed. I just looked up music video about a wedding. Yeah. And there's a Maroon 5 song. That's off, though.
01:34:28
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No. author Never. ah A Meghan Trainor song. Probably don't want to go with that one. No. ah
01:34:40
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I think that's about all... I think we've pretty much covered it. Slim Pickens. Oof. Did he do a wedding song? and Not that I'm aware of. What about White Wedding?
01:34:51
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you to go to the video for White Wedding? i don't know if there's cake. Is there a wedding in the video for White Wedding? or No, think it's just Billy Idol. Yeah. i mean he he I mean, he might have some fun stories.
01:35:06
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What's up? It's me, Billy Idol.
01:35:10
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Oh, it's... I'm sorry. it wasn't happening They do blow off a stained glass window, and then some, like, 80s babes come out.
01:35:21
Speaker
Okay. That sounds fun. i mean, I'm sure they got some good stories. Oh, no, they ride a motorcycle through a stained glass window. I mean, so far, that's in the lead, because I would love to see that.
01:35:32
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Ben Gully, our mutual friend Ben Gully, I'm not about to ask a question from him. I'm about to just talk about a joke that we have told each other for years. Okay. um We've always thought it would be funny ah if instead of David Bowie, they had cast Billy Idol as the Goblin King in Labyrinth.
Pop Culture Queries and Listener Engagement
01:35:54
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That'd be pretty good. There was just like a behind-the-scenes thing where it's like Billy Idol on set in costume. And he's like, oh, you need anybody to rough anyone up?
01:36:07
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Rough anybody up on set? my old me My old friend Dave.
01:36:14
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He's a wizard with a bat. That's pretty good. I like it. That sounds a lot like the Pennyworth. The prequel to Gotham. Do you want to take one more question or are we out of time? Let's do one more.
01:36:28
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Let's do one more. All right. We'll get through it quick.
01:36:33
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ah let me let me find Let me find a really good one to ask. Rocket Witzel wants to know which Dracula is the best looking.
01:36:43
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Which Dracula is the best looking? Yeah. Christopher Easy. Like, well, I don't know if Rocket is asking which one is the most handsome. Or which one believe um is looks coolest.
01:37:00
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But maybe Christopher Lee is the answer to both. I mean, yeah I think he's certainly in the running. i do think there is something to say for Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracula with that big fucking white hair.
01:37:16
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Oh, so you're not talking about like when he's handsome, like young Dracula? No. It's when he's old, weird, licking Jonathan Harker's neck Dracula that you're... It's such a distinct look when he looks like that.
01:37:30
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It's like...
01:37:33
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like When he's young and he's got the long hair and stuff, that's fine. But like he looks like a total and absolute freak when he's old what he's got the old he's got the big white hair.
01:37:44
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It'll it it'll be stuck in my mind for the rest of my life, that particular like take on Dracula, if nothing else.
01:37:55
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Yeah, it's it's very distinct. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's got to do it for this episode. Thanks to everybody who's sending questions. we We did not get nearly all of them, ah but we appreciate people for sending questions in.
01:38:10
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01:38:27
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01:39:13
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01:39:39
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01:40:12
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that does Thanks for listening, everybody. We know about Dawn now. And now, no one can stop us. We know some about Dawn. We know a little bit about Dawn. Yeah, we know more than we did.
01:40:24
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We know more than we did, which was nothing. So... we do what i looked Almost by default, we know more. We knew that she had like...
01:40:36
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like a A onesie kind of thing that had skulls on it. That was kind of all we knew. She has chain wallet. And a chain wallet.
01:40:47
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Yeah. I will say, I don't think Robert incorporated the chain wallet. We'll be back next week with ah another episode. Until then, folks, do not forget that Black Lives Matter. Trans rights are human rights.
01:40:58
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As are abortion rights. Drag is not a crime. And cops aren't your friends. Free Palestine, we love you. We love you. Yeah!
01:41:20
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everything to flash.