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Xbox changes and Scary movies
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Welcome back! This week, after the rigamarole (winter, weather, fire, EMS, gaming), Ron wonders what the name Xbox will mean with Phil Spencer leaving Microsoft; Chris might see a scary movie and wants to know why people enjoy them. As always, please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on BlueSky, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Introduction and Snow Situation
00:00:06
Chris
Welcome back to another episode of Mythic Draft Podcast. I'm Chris.
00:00:10
whatsnow
And I'm a happily not snowed in Ron.
00:00:14
Chris
How did it finally melt?
00:00:15
whatsnow
Oh my god. Finally.
00:00:19
whatsnow
Well, and then we're supposed to get snow Monday.
00:00:23
Chris
Yeah, I saw that.
00:00:24
whatsnow
They say.
00:00:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:00:26
whatsnow
Not going to be that bad, but still.
00:00:26
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. yeah i Look, this last one, it was nice that it didn't really hang around down here.
00:00:33
whatsnow
Yeah, well, it didn't even stick to the roads up here.
Virtual Command Centers and Technology
00:00:37
Chris
le yeah yeah yeah i spent my uh 12 hours in the virtual command center sunday night yeah finally felt sleep little bit after one
00:00:37
whatsnow
You guys got hammered and we got snow.
00:00:43
whatsnow
Which was nice for me.
00:00:51
whatsnow
Ooh.
00:00:56
whatsnow
What's the virtual command center? Do you have a VR goggles and you sit around and operate a board?
00:00:59
Chris
yes yes yes no
00:01:04
Chris
Yeah, no, they use, the county uses like, Adobe platform from 1903. And yeah, they're
00:01:14
Chris
and yeah they're supposed to be representatives from the major agencies that don't really communicate. Yeah, but yeah, yeah it was what it was.
00:01:26
Chris
yeah.
00:01:26
whatsnow
Have you ever, or this is really inside baseball, because
Ineffectiveness of Emergency Operation Centers
00:01:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:30
whatsnow
you and I are now in the parts of our career where we've done some of this stuff.
00:01:33
whatsnow
Have you ever actually found use in any the emergency operations yet?
00:01:38
Chris
No.
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whatsnow
It's all terrible.
00:01:41
Chris
it is. guess i mean if you're one of those maniacs in a wildfire like out west.
00:01:49
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:01:49
Chris
But otherwise, it's just like, i no, ah I'm going to go do my job.
00:01:50
whatsnow
Yeah, I get.
00:01:56
Chris
And when it's done, you'll know. Yeah.
00:01:58
whatsnow
Right. Yeah, like I've never, not only had a good experience doing that, but never had a good experience in drills with them.
00:02:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:09
whatsnow
Every time I have a drill with somebody who's like, oh we're doing this with intervention operation.
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Chris
Yeah.
00:02:12
whatsnow
I'm like, okay, so you don't really have a real job.
00:02:15
Chris
Right.
00:02:17
Chris
Yeah. Never once in my career have I been like, woof I got to reach out to the planning division to see what's going on. Yeah.
00:02:26
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah. it's
00:02:29
Chris
Yeah.
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whatsnow
I took that NIMS 400 class and I was like, this is everything that's wrong with emergency management.
00:02:37
Chris
Yeah.
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whatsnow
this It's crazy.
00:02:39
Chris
Yeah.
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whatsnow
Nothing gets done.
00:02:41
Chris
No. And I get that you want, you know, ah single point of contact to kind of know things, but that person should just be like, yeah, hard yeah there's there's calls for service, fire department's handling that, ah police is handling their stuff.
00:02:45
whatsnow
Buy-in, I guess.
00:02:58
Chris
It's just, know, it's in the middle of a storm or whatever, but everything else is still happening normally. i mean, i get maybe for like field ops and stuff, it's like, yeah, we're
00:03:05
whatsnow
yeah that's
00:03:10
Chris
cutting more trees than normal. I don't know.
00:03:14
whatsnow
I don't know. i've never I've never had an experience where I was like, oh, this was worth...
00:03:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:20
whatsnow
I just look at those people like, well, we could just put you guys in the field.
00:03:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:24
whatsnow
right We could actually use you out
00:03:27
Chris
Yeah. Well, there's like the thing, like Sunday night, I'm in the virtual command center. I'm like, I could literally be at work doing something, but no, I'm sitting, and look, you know, I was sitting in my nice house, you know,
00:03:40
Chris
But yeah, but again, I could have been a person out in about.
00:03:40
whatsnow
ah Great for you.
00:03:46
Chris
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:49
whatsnow
Yeah, it's it's it's never been ah experience for me where I'm like, this was worth the time.
00:03:52
Chris
I'm going to have to, yeah, I'm going to ask that Monday when i get back to work. I'm like, so when's the last time you, you know, you were on a call or something like, thank God for NIMS five or 400.
00:04:03
whatsnow
It's never. Never.
00:04:04
Chris
that
00:04:07
Chris
This calls for 300. No, Just no. Yeah.
00:04:13
whatsnow
well and and it it always felt like this is ah gotta be how do i say this correctly it always felt like it's for people who want to play firefighter
00:04:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:28
whatsnow
it's like i i want to be involved in the process too it's like oh that's cute well here's your little nims book you go through and we'll be out here fighting the
00:04:31
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Fire Department: Past vs. Present
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whatsnow
fire
00:04:39
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:04:41
whatsnow
know like it just never felt great
00:04:46
Chris
me Yeah, I just, ah again, i think maybe it's something fine for like, you know, city planners and stuff like that, but like boots on the street, if the fire department has a need, it's going to be, you know, it's going to go up through our chain and then over to whoever to say, Hey, yeah, the fire department needs, you know ah a John vote or whatever.
00:05:07
whatsnow
Yeah, like, I have no problem with the, what is that, the JSOB board or whatever. It has all the equipment, you know. That's cool that there's somebody who's there to do that.
00:05:16
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:05:19
whatsnow
I don't need to be involved in that.
00:05:20
Chris
No.
00:05:21
whatsnow
I just need to have that guy's phone number say, hey, get me a hovercraft, right?
00:05:23
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:05:26
whatsnow
Like, that I don't need anything more than that, you know.
00:05:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:31
whatsnow
it's It's always felt weird.
00:05:32
Chris
Yeah. God. Or that's the other thing. Oh, God. Maybe I'll do this. Start doing that next week. Yeah. Like a training guy. Hey, I
Practical Action in Fire Service
00:05:41
Chris
think we need to do this and that.
00:05:44
Chris
I don't see an ICS form. guess you don't really want it.
00:05:49
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I need to see an ICS request. And like, it always blew my mind because when you do all those classes, they're like, and remember, you're really planning for the next operational period. The next eight hours is like, I'm only planning for how I'm going to the station to take a crap.
00:06:00
Chris
Yeah.
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whatsnow
Like, I don't,
00:06:07
Chris
Yeah.
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whatsnow
my life does not operate on this schedule.
00:06:10
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:12
whatsnow
Never has, never will, can't.
00:06:14
Chris
Right. Yeah. but Let's see. Yeah, because the fire department is going to yeah, we'll probably get to put that out in about eight hours. No, we handle the situation.
00:06:22
whatsnow
Yeah, exactly.
00:06:24
Chris
And we yeah if we can't mitigate it, then we do everything in our power to continue to mitigate it until it's done.
00:06:30
whatsnow
Right, yeah. We don't sit here and have meetings about planning what we're going to do.
00:06:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:06:37
whatsnow
Here's here's the bad news, folks. We barely think at all.
00:06:43
whatsnow
We kind of just do.
00:06:44
Chris
Yeah, well, I mean, because that's the thing, though, with emergency services, you can't you can only be but so proactive.
00:06:51
whatsnow
Yes.
00:06:52
Chris
ah It's.
00:06:52
whatsnow
You can preplane everything in the world and go on the call that's nothing like you thought it was going to be.
00:06:56
Chris
Right. Yeah, exactly. it i mean, it is like the embodiment of everybody has a plan to they get punched in the mouth.
00:07:04
whatsnow
Mm-hmm.
00:07:04
Chris
Because, yeah. g Did we have anything in our plans that said a tree was going to fall and, you know, damage an aerial and an engine no no no but on the list yeah yeah no no it's just yeah and again were those guys saying oh you know well you know tomorrow morning you know the next eight hours we gotta do this no like you said they're like this house is on fire we're putting it out and then we're we're either going to clear for the next available call or go back to his station and change your underwear because a tree just fell.
00:07:17
whatsnow
No, don't think that was on our list. Off to look on the bingo board.
00:07:26
whatsnow
yeah we And yet somehow...
00:07:44
whatsnow
ah Yeah. yeah i I'm for sure that the driver of one of those pieces probably shit himself.
00:07:50
Chris
I don't think so. Cause he doesn't really poop.
00:07:53
whatsnow
That's fair. That's fair.
00:07:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:56
whatsnow
Moves once every six months like a bear.
00:07:58
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. I do know there was a certain captain who almost did because yeah, they were around the other side of the engine.
00:08:08
whatsnow
Yeah. But you know, the the funny thing is like that happened, right?
00:08:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:12
whatsnow
And I came to work two days later, operations in the fire department, except for one minor thing of ruining my ocd was perfectly fine and well where was engine one
00:08:23
Chris
What ruined your OCD?
00:08:27
Chris
Oh, because it was running out of headquarters.
00:08:30
whatsnow
yes engine one's running out of headquarters and engine two is running out of station one and i was just like can't handle this my
00:08:31
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:37
Chris
yeah
00:08:43
Chris
Well, you know, if if we had certain things aligned, you would still go out as Engine 1. They would go out as Engine 16.
00:08:52
whatsnow
That is impossible.
00:08:52
Chris
But, yeah.
00:08:53
whatsnow
No one can handle that.
00:08:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:55
whatsnow
It's only been ah um something we talked about for 20 years.
00:08:59
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah. Yeah.
00:09:03
whatsnow
Literally impossible.
00:09:05
Chris
But, yeah, that was, like, and like you talk about, that night when it happened. Cool. Yeah, I get the phone call. Hey, this fell. Okay. Anybody get hurt? Nope. Sweet.
00:09:16
Chris
Can you drive back to the station? Yep. All right. See you tomorrow. Cause what else are we going to do?
00:09:24
whatsnow
just You just handle it. that's all we That's all we do in the fire service.
00:09:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:29
whatsnow
We just just handled it.
00:09:31
Chris
Maybe that could be your retirement gig. You can, you know, the real ICS 300.
00:09:38
whatsnow
They know do not want me doing that. There's a lot of things they don't want me doing. That's definitely one of them. i
00:09:45
Chris
i don't know though can you imagine uh what's his face from cambridge mike uh shit
00:09:49
whatsnow
Oh, um... whatever mike's last we shouldn't say his last name we shouldn't blow him up anyway yeah
00:09:54
Chris
yeah yeah yeah but i mean super smart guy he teaches his class and everything but i bet you if we sat down really bullshit with him he'd be like yeah you're absolutely right yeah yeah
00:10:02
whatsnow
it's it's bullshit we all know it's bullshit yeah it's it's yeah it we don't do any of it yeah i'm taking that
00:10:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:17
whatsnow
blue card class and you know it's make sure you have your worksheet and you're filling your worksheet out for the for the class it's like what i'm sorry i'm getting off the engine with my clipboard instead of you know my tools
00:10:18
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:10:27
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:10:31
Chris
Right. Well, because what blue card is made for is, you know, a department with a compliment of, you know, 88 people going to every call.
00:10:41
whatsnow
and and at least three chiefs at least yeah
00:10:43
Chris
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With, and each of them has a scribe. Yeah.
00:10:48
whatsnow
Yes. Well, they have chiefs that are scribes for other chiefs.
00:10:54
whatsnow
that's how they That's how they roll.
00:10:55
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah. Unless you're in like Phoenix or FDNY ain't happening.
00:11:01
whatsnow
No, no, no. sweetly We don't have time.
00:11:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:06
Chris
No, but it's also, it's not needed.
00:11:08
whatsnow
And somehow, no, and somehow the fires still go out.
00:11:13
Chris
yeah
00:11:15
whatsnow
You know, it's just like that conversation. we you know, somehow our fire department operated with one engine and two ambulances for all those years.
00:11:26
whatsnow
And things just got handled. And now we're like, oh, my God, we're dropping off the fourth person on the truck. This is a travesty. Guys, we used to go to fires with three people.
00:11:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:39
whatsnow
I'm not saying that was right.
00:11:40
Chris
Yeah. Right.
00:11:41
whatsnow
It's not.
00:11:41
Chris
But yeah, it's, it's also not the sky is falling.
00:11:45
whatsnow
now yeah
00:11:46
Chris
Yeah. I'm all for, yeah. Let's have, you know, as many people, as many people as you need to be safe, get the job done more efficiently, you know, cause, and, The goal is for everybody to go home at the end of this shift and retire out and milk the system until you know, you're 108 years old.
00:12:03
whatsnow
yep 100 the plan it's just boy the conversations i have with some people like
00:12:04
Chris
But Yeah.
00:12:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:15
whatsnow
guys are bonkers
00:12:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:18
whatsnow
and it's fine like you should be looking towards things that are safer a lot of shit we did was not safe but boy it's not a big deal if we staff an ambulance instead of the fourth person on the truck
00:12:24
Chris
yes absolutely right
00:12:32
Chris
yeah right uh well say we had the conversation this morning we were talking about engines and think back to like when we started like
00:12:39
whatsnow
I know. and I can't say these things. I'm ah im a card-carrying member of the union. Yeah. Yep.
00:12:55
Chris
engine 210 engine four and engine five. The two old pierces and that old American, that old American La France, I can guarantee you to this day is still running.
00:13:07
whatsnow
Probably.
00:13:08
Chris
Yeah, but they don't make them like that anymore.
00:13:11
whatsnow
Well, yeah, you know, they also didn't have roll protection and seatbelts.
00:13:17
Chris
But I'm talking about the motor and the drive train and the pump.
00:13:22
whatsnow
Yeah, that that all of that is true.
00:13:23
Chris
why aren't those made, you know, to that beefiness anymore?
00:13:29
whatsnow
Well, because we wanted to have computer-operated pumps and...
00:13:33
Chris
a
00:13:35
whatsnow
automatic governors and you know like we all wanted the cool you know cruise control on the motor and you know it's like well yeah but those when you add those things to these motors into the pump panels it makes them more complex and then they have all these problems you know our old governors were literally a switch you know and you
00:13:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:52
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:56
Chris
Yeah. I can remember. Oh my God. I feel like a dinosaur now. Cause i remember when we got those two new engines and they were talking about, yeah, they got these automatic governors. don't trust that garbage as a computer thing. or Tell me what to do. ah No, but I'm not using that.
00:14:13
whatsnow
I remember we got the first set of twins, the first new set of twins, and they had the the push button, you know, little LCD panel to increase pressure.
00:14:17
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:24
Chris
Oh my gosh.
00:14:25
whatsnow
And I was like, this is awful.
00:14:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:26
whatsnow
Where's my little knob? I need my knob.
00:14:28
Chris
Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was so nice. You just cranked it out. And then if in a hurry, you could slam it in.
00:14:35
whatsnow
yeah. yeah it just
00:14:36
Chris
God. Oh, Pierce. If you're listening, build an old engine like that.
00:14:40
whatsnow
They're not.
00:14:43
whatsnow
They won't.
00:14:43
Chris
God, you imagine that?
00:14:44
whatsnow
Nobody would buy it. Nobody would buy it.
00:14:45
Chris
Just, I would.
00:14:48
whatsnow
i
00:14:50
Chris
Can you imagine that? They said, yep, this is a working engine.
00:14:55
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:14:55
Chris
Yeah, it's got airbags. It's got, you know, safety belts and all that. But the pump, yeah, it's a cable-drawn system. You got a manual governor.
00:15:07
whatsnow
You know what makes me crazy in the fire department now? when the packing on the pump is leaking and we act like it's an emergency right if the if that wasn't tripping on the packing to keep the packing wet you were like oh we gotta send this thing to the shop
00:15:17
Chris
my gosh.
00:15:21
Chris
We used to have pumpers that if it wasn't leaking, there was a problem.
00:15:28
Chris
yeah yeah god you remember what was it that one engine it was like oh yeah it's supposed to drip x amount of times per minute or some shit
00:15:31
whatsnow
yeah
00:15:37
whatsnow
yeah we never think about those engines the arrows we never sent those to the shop ever they were never out of service ever ever well yeah we agree yeah think about god rest its soul the old a16-2 the old box ford you know that i mean ran forever forever i don't i don't know
00:15:49
Chris
unless the one time it was like in an accident or something but yeah
00:16:01
Chris
Oh my gosh.
00:16:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:10
whatsnow
800,000 miles on it you know and treated like dog shit.
00:16:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:16:15
whatsnow
we Nobody treated those animals as nicely.
00:16:19
Chris
No.
00:16:19
whatsnow
And you know what? It ran until it basically caught fire.
00:16:24
Chris
so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the thing.
00:16:26
whatsnow
it
00:16:26
Chris
Yeah. Like we did not. yeah You would try to take care of that ambulance and he would get mad at you.
00:16:31
whatsnow
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:32
Chris
god It's like you washed it and it's like beat you.
00:16:35
whatsnow
yeah we the The dirt kept all the paint on.
00:16:40
whatsnow
yeah we yeah
00:16:42
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah. The door won't close. Yep. B-shift cleaned it. Yeah.
00:16:46
whatsnow
yeah yeah it was just it's just a ah different i don't know different animal and it's like what happened what happened that ambulance but then as soon as we got those internationals it all went it all went downhill
00:16:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:56
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:17:01
Chris
Oh gosh, the freight shakers. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:06
whatsnow
Or my theory, as soon as we got a contract with Atlantic, everything needed maintenance all the time. it It seems like if you just didn't do the maintenance, the thing ran by itself.
00:17:17
whatsnow
Start doing maintenance, it all gets screwed up.
00:17:19
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:17:21
whatsnow
you know You know, we're doing the right thing.
00:17:23
Chris
i remember the one. Do you remember when we had the mechanic that would come to the station? Corey.
00:17:28
whatsnow
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:17:29
Chris
I remember the one time I can't remember what unit it was. He was like, I can't explain it, but it's making its own oil. I mean, just keep running it. We're like, okay.
00:17:36
whatsnow
We had a gold mine.
00:17:37
Chris
He's like, it doesn't make sense, but it's still working and it's going to work.
00:17:37
whatsnow
sure
00:17:43
whatsnow
There was oil was going into the coolant system.
00:17:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:46
whatsnow
What? Cool. But it just ran.
00:17:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:52
whatsnow
just it just operated. Like we didn't. those load Those arrows. We didn't do diddly dick too. You barely checked them. You ran them outside.
00:18:01
Chris
right yeah yeah yeah
00:18:02
whatsnow
You turned them on. Done.
00:18:07
whatsnow
There's a part of me that really yearns for those days of the fire department.
00:18:12
Chris
yeah
00:18:13
whatsnow
Like Donnie and I were talking the other day about, like when we got here, you didn't train all day. You didn't. You barely trained. They were like, that's a fire engine. Get your ass on it. Give it a call.
00:18:26
Chris
yeah yeah
00:18:29
whatsnow
And I'm not saying that's right.
00:18:31
Chris
Right.
00:18:32
whatsnow
But boy, was a better job.
00:18:35
Chris
Yeah. But, but also you talk about like the training. Oh my God. There's people listening going, yeah, I've tuned out, but it for the training, it was your Lieutenant or most of the time is your acting Lieutenant.
00:18:48
Chris
And it was, hey guys, let's, you know, we'll drive around downtown. We'll, you know, pre-plan stuff or it was, Hey,
00:18:57
whatsnow
Sure.
00:18:59
Chris
Let's, you know, pull, it it was stuff that was for your company.
00:19:03
whatsnow
over okay
00:19:03
Chris
It wasn't, oh, well, that you know, the truck's doing this, so we need to do, no. Yeah, the truck does their truck stuff. We're doing our stuff.
00:19:12
whatsnow
we didn't have a truck back then you know we just
00:19:14
Chris
Yeah, yeah. And then when we did have a truck, they were the jerks of the world.
00:19:19
whatsnow
they were the tricks nothing's changed i always said i got lucky i got assigned to the engine company but if i was assigned to the truck company be like fuck those engine guys
00:19:20
Chris
yeah Yeah, well.
00:19:27
Chris
Yep.
00:19:29
Chris
yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:19:33
whatsnow
Those guys suck.
00:19:33
Chris
Oh, is it too warm in there?
00:19:34
whatsnow
Truck rules.
00:19:35
Chris
Let me cut a hole for you.
00:19:36
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:19:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:37
whatsnow
Oh, you pushers can't get the door. let me open it for you.
00:19:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:42
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, we all know engine company's the best company.
00:19:47
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:19:51
whatsnow
I'm just excited that my fire station might finally have some gym equipment again that was not built in 1962.
00:19:56
Chris
Yep.
00:20:00
Chris
that's I'm still going to print out like exercise pictures of guys with afros.
00:20:07
whatsnow
yeah we will miss them when we're one they're gone
00:20:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:12
whatsnow
and they're going to another firehouse which is oh spas possibly going to another firehouse which i was blown away by it when they were like hey we don't even have any gym equipment in firehouse i'm like what kind of firehouse doesn't have gym equipment that's what you're doing wrong yeah and even at old station one we had i brought crap in and we just worked out from there you know
00:20:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:21
Chris
Yeah. Right. You remember even the old headquarters, we had stuff down in the cage.
00:20:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:36
whatsnow
is
00:20:36
Chris
Yeah. I mean, when you and I started, it was the old triangle weights. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
00:20:41
whatsnow
the big the big big metal balls on ah for a barbell
00:20:46
Chris
Yeah. Uh-oh. ah rl
00:20:50
Chris
ah
00:20:50
whatsnow
all of our shirts were but you know it's like just one sleeve and it was a like a unitard that was our uniform man speaking uniforms i got a gripe about salisbury fire department
00:20:54
Chris
ah yeah yeah yeah uo
00:21:02
Chris
okay yes yes yeah which whichever way you want to spin it yeah
00:21:03
whatsnow
so i'm i'm doing my blue card class that you guys make me do or asked me to do shouldn't make they made i've been voluntold to do and they got videos from phoenix fire department now they're a little older these videos these guys are in like sweatpants and sweatshirts and t-shirts and sweatshorts they're not wearing blue pants with garrison belts and
00:21:16
Chris
yeah yeah
00:21:31
whatsnow
all this crap, I want to go back to that world.
00:21:33
Chris
Well, the guys that were in the sweatpants or sweatshorts, they just got done at the gym. That's why they, you they had, ah they were in the gym, they were last out, but their unit got called. So they had to go on it. Yeah.
00:21:43
whatsnow
Is that what it is
00:21:44
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is.
00:21:45
whatsnow
All of them are in that though.
00:21:47
Chris
Yes. Yes. I would not want to wear sweatpants at work with those animals.
00:21:54
whatsnow
It's fair.
00:21:56
Chris
ah Come on, man.
00:21:57
whatsnow
It's fair.
00:21:58
Chris
Because we are all, when you get down to it, a bunch of little kids.
00:22:02
whatsnow
It's true.
00:22:02
Chris
And it would be one of those things where, you know, yeah, you're the Lieutenant on the engine, you're talking to the media and your chauffeur comes in pants. You yeah.
00:22:11
whatsnow
Yeah, that's fair.
00:22:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:14
whatsnow
that's That's a good point. There's a reason I don't talk to the media right there.
00:22:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:17
whatsnow
Just for that reason. Because I know that my driver would pants me.
00:22:27
whatsnow
My driver would not dare pants me. I would suplex her.
00:22:33
Chris
I don't know. She probably suplex you.
00:22:37
whatsnow
I feel like I can still establish dominance and kick the crap out of everybody on my shift.
00:22:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:41
whatsnow
Currently.
00:22:41
Chris
ah Well, the it's because your nozzle guy is 110. Yeah. He's
00:22:46
whatsnow
Is he 110? Maybe?
00:22:50
Chris
ah he's at least 80. Yeah.
00:22:52
whatsnow
oh oh you meant old age. oh yeah I thought you were talking about the new Nozzle guy who's like 110 pounds.
00:22:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:59
Chris
Oh, no, no, no, no. no no no no i was about
00:23:03
whatsnow
Oh, yeah. Pop-up is...
00:23:04
Chris
yeah
00:23:05
whatsnow
we don't really let him ride the nozzle we just kind of like oh yeah you're still fireman yeah yeah here's your applesauce
00:23:15
Chris
yeah no your new kid he yeah yeah
00:23:21
whatsnow
get another one doesn't party doesn't go out after work i not a drunkard who's on with these kids
00:23:34
Chris
Yeah. Can you imagine some of these? Yeah. Like we would get off at seven o'clock in the morning and go quote unquote play golf.
00:23:42
whatsnow
Yeah, golf.
00:23:42
Chris
And yeah.
00:23:47
whatsnow
Yeah, that they don't do that stuff, man.
00:23:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:49
whatsnow
They're all, like, boring. Like, I'm gonna go to the gym. Ugh.
00:23:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:56
whatsnow
Terrible.
00:23:57
Chris
Yeah. Terrible. Hmm.
Phil Spencer and Sarah Bond's Departure from Xbox
00:24:03
Chris
Well, you're ready for topic one?
00:24:05
whatsnow
Sure. Topic one is kind of a to me, sad.
00:24:11
Chris
no.
00:24:13
whatsnow
Xbox announced this week that Phil Spencer has been shit canned.
00:24:20
Chris
Yeah, and and Sarah Bond left like that.
00:24:21
whatsnow
Mr. Xbox.
00:24:25
whatsnow
Well, apparently that was also a you're out too.
00:24:27
Chris
Yeah, I think that was... ah yeah Yeah, I don't know if this is part of your topic, but I don't know. The reason she left, it's maybe one day we'll find out, but I don't know if it was one of those. She saw the writing on the wall and it was one of those, hey, Phil's leaving and we need you to whoever's stepping up to present this shit sandwich to everybody and, you know, fall on the spear. And she's like, out.
00:24:54
whatsnow
I just, my topic was, because Phil Spencer, to me, because I guess I'm, what, side tangent to this, I just thought about it the other day. Like, I haven't upgraded my Xbox.
00:25:06
whatsnow
I have Xbox One. I haven't turned it on in forever now. Because I don't even use, I don't use Xbox like that anymore, but...
00:25:13
Chris
yeah yeah you're literally one of the play anywhere people yeah yeah
00:25:16
whatsnow
but yeah I'm a Play Anywhere person at this point. which Phil pioneered that to me, so I'm like, oh, that's great. But apparently, i guess a hardware company like Xbox isn't so happy about that anymore.
00:25:33
whatsnow
But he's like Mr. Xbox to me. He's been... before
00:25:38
Chris
i mean he was the he he was a gamer's gamer
00:25:40
whatsnow
Yeah, he he well, he started as like ah a commentator, right, for Xbox, basically.
00:25:46
Chris
Yeah, right.
00:25:47
whatsnow
He was like an Xbox Live community coordinator or something.
00:25:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:51
whatsnow
Community coordinator back in the day. was like and he was very involved. And I I will give credit. I have no I don't really know anything about the new person except that they were in charge of like an AI thing beforehand.
00:26:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:04
whatsnow
And the first thing they did was link their gamer tag. cool you know but try to get some credit with them yeah that's the person but they
00:26:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:14
Chris
Asha Sharma. Yeah. What did she, yeah, there was something else that she did before.
00:26:23
whatsnow
i know that she came from like microsoft ai's programs to now she's the head of xbox
00:26:27
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:32
whatsnow
you know hopefully they can write their ship i don't know what the ship is anymore and that's it that's literally my topic is because like what has xbox even become because i don't know like i can look at sony playstation and say i know what sony playstation is sony playstation is a company that's going to make an inferior product and they're going to hold off on putting out the playstation 6 as long as possible
00:26:37
Chris
yeah
00:27:00
whatsnow
and they're gonna have some really weird ips and they don't want to work with anybody
00:27:04
Chris
ah
00:27:08
Chris
because the reason is they haven't had to yeah
00:27:12
whatsnow
it's true it's true they haven't had to but i that it's true well that the difference i think
00:27:15
Chris
i mean that's why nintendo can keep making its weird ass decisions
00:27:24
whatsnow
The difference between Nintendo and Sony to me is that Nintendo isn't trying where Nintendo, Sony is.
00:27:31
Chris
yeah
00:27:32
whatsnow
Like Nintendo seems perfectly fine. Like, oh, we'll make our market share and that's it. Like they that they have no skin in the game of like changing that.
00:27:43
Chris
yeah yeah it's biting them in the ass though i mean they've just shut down two more studios recently so yeah
00:27:45
whatsnow
Sony seems like we got to dominate everything. Yeah.
00:27:55
whatsnow
and that's what Xbox is like, right?
00:27:57
Chris
yeah
00:27:57
whatsnow
Xbox decided they were going to have Xbox gaming studios and they just bought up all these studios and then shut them down.
00:28:04
Chris
yeah yeah yep
00:28:05
whatsnow
And it's, I don't, I don't know what the gaming industry is going to be now.
00:28:11
Chris
yeah oh that's what it was asha sharma was the coo of instacart before this yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah i look i've always been a sony guy but yeah seeing
00:28:17
whatsnow
Whoa. It's fun.
00:28:20
whatsnow
People use that. Yeah.
00:28:30
Chris
When I heard that Phil was, you know, leaving, it's just, it's so weird. I mean, like you say, it's somebody like Phil Spencer. Yeah.
00:28:38
whatsnow
yeah
00:28:39
Chris
If this was a planned thing, you think it would be, oh, you know, what we're going to announce that at the end of, you know, in six months, Phil's stepping out. and He's going to, you know, pass the reins on to so-and-so and it's going to be this transition period.
00:28:53
Chris
It was just Phil's out, Sarah Bond's out. Here's Asha.
00:28:57
whatsnow
yeah and that was weird to me uh on top of
00:29:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:04
whatsnow
everything on but also like looking at going cool now what you know what is because they didn't the one thing they didn't do was like announce anything they didn't come out and say and this is what we're gonna do with xbox now
00:29:09
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:29:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:22
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:29:24
whatsnow
which feels like Sony, the way you want to look at it, either won or lost the console war, right?
00:29:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:35
whatsnow
Because it feels like now Xbox isn't even in the console business.
00:29:39
Chris
Yeah. It's just, I mean, I still don't understand why there wasn't a bigger halo push this year
00:29:51
whatsnow
I believe so.
00:29:51
Chris
or, well, yeah, but I mean, yeah, but I mean, you talk about, you know, what is Xbox doing?
00:29:52
whatsnow
The Fallout debacle...
00:29:57
Chris
Like you said, they bought, they own Bethesda now, right?
00:30:02
whatsnow
ah believe so
00:30:03
Chris
Yeah. I mean, oh, The Fallout TV show is doing wonderful. Hey, look, here's a new Fallout game. Here's the remaster of Fallout 4. Stuff like that. yeah the bit Use what's you know hot right now.
00:30:17
whatsnow
the fallout debacle is crazy to me nothing was done nothing look i get the first season you weren't prepared for it but you kind of had to know it was going to be something you know and then you
00:30:23
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:33
Chris
Right. And with the second season leading into whatever anniversary it was, it was like, come on.
00:30:39
whatsnow
i did nothing yeah um i think some of that is bethesda being bethesda you know
00:30:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:48
Chris
Yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, we got elder Elder Scrolls six coming out.
00:30:52
whatsnow
Do we?
00:30:53
Chris
Yeah. 2032. Yeah. I don't believe it.
00:30:55
whatsnow
Do we?
00:30:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:58
whatsnow
Do we?
00:30:59
Chris
Yeah. i don't believe it
00:30:59
whatsnow
We have Elder Scrolls remasters coming out. We've got that.
00:31:03
Chris
yeah
00:31:03
whatsnow
Cool. Like, that's something...
00:31:04
Chris
wait but But Bavisda didn't do that.
00:31:07
whatsnow
No, that's all we've gotten.
00:31:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:10
whatsnow
And they made the comment the other day, was it Morrowind? I think it's Morrowind. They said, we're not going to remaster Morrowind because we don't think people would like it in this world environment.
00:31:23
Chris
Hmm. Hmm.
00:31:25
whatsnow
so But you're not putting anything out.
00:31:26
Chris
Right, yeah. Yeah.
00:31:28
whatsnow
how you How do you make money?
00:31:28
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:33
whatsnow
Yeah, Starfield was a colossal piece of crap.
00:31:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:37
whatsnow
Sorry.
00:31:38
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. It it was not, you what people wanted.
00:31:44
whatsnow
It looked like ass.
00:31:45
Chris
Well, yeah.
00:31:45
whatsnow
It made me think my computer was broken because the video, because it looks so bad. I was like, this can't be the game.
00:31:53
Chris
Right.
00:31:54
whatsnow
It has to be my, and then I'm like looking at other people's and it's like no, it looks like somebody smeared Vaseline all over their monitor.
00:31:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:02
whatsnow
it It's awful.
00:32:05
Chris
Eye doctors were so busy that week, everybody felt they had glaucoma.
00:32:08
whatsnow
Yeah. Everybody had to be like, Either that or like the video card markets crashed because everybody's like, I have to buy a new video card because this clearly is a problem.
00:32:15
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:32:19
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:32:20
whatsnow
It was so bad. And
00:32:21
Chris
Yeah. I'm going update my drivers.
00:32:24
whatsnow
look, i'm goodnna I use Game Pass pretty regularly.
00:32:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:28
whatsnow
pay for the Game Pass. though They have started to de-shittify it, so it's starting to get worse, which is is going to be a problem in the future.
00:32:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:36
Chris
Right.
00:32:36
whatsnow
But I love that I play Xbox games on my PC. I don't really... I'm not in the console game anymore.
00:32:44
Chris
Right.
00:32:44
whatsnow
So I'm not shitting on Xbox. I just want to know what the fuck the plane is. Language.
00:32:48
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, seriously, if you're going to get out of it, the hardware market, just say it.
00:32:56
whatsnow
Yeah, just say we're out.
00:32:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:58
whatsnow
Say we're going to be a game studio. We're going put a new Halo out every three years.
00:33:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:01
whatsnow
We're going to put a new, you know, I said we're putting out Marathon, which, cool.
00:33:02
Chris
Right.
00:33:09
Chris
this weekend's the server slam yeah i well so think i've talked about on here before but yeah i was part of the alpha for marathon i yeah it's just not my cup of tea i'm not an an extraction shooter guy and like buddies of mine that
00:33:12
whatsnow
Sure.
00:33:21
whatsnow
Mm-hmm.
00:33:29
Chris
I used to play destiny with a lot. They're like, oh yeah, we're to download it and everything. And like three of them already like, yeah, already uninstalled it. I played like three rounds, got my teeth kicked in. i don't like extraction.
00:33:40
whatsnow
right.
00:33:40
Chris
So, but it'd be cool. Yeah. If that's your thing, you know, go for it. But yeah, but like Xbox, you've got, yeah, your Bethesda stuff, uh, force is big, right?
00:33:53
whatsnow
Force is huge.
00:33:54
Chris
I mean, that's one of the best racing games out there.
00:33:57
whatsnow
okay
00:33:58
Chris
Um, you've got the Microsoft simulator stuff.
00:34:03
whatsnow
Which they put out free last time-ish.
00:34:07
Chris
did Yeah. Something like that. um We haven't heard anything from gears.
00:34:12
whatsnow
They did put out Avowed. No.
00:34:16
Chris
um
00:34:16
whatsnow
No Gears. Let's see.
00:34:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:19
whatsnow
I'm looking at what they own. Halo, Gears, Psychonauts. There is going new Fable game. That's coming out soon-ish.
00:34:27
Chris
Yeah. But I heard it's, different like it but but but i mean like the um morality system isn't the same at all which was a huge part of that yeah
00:34:31
whatsnow
Well, Fables are...
00:34:45
whatsnow
seeing what else stands out.
00:34:51
whatsnow
The Dipup BattleTech game last year was pretty good.
00:34:56
Chris
um minecraft yeah
00:34:58
whatsnow
Yes, they do own Minecraft, which I guess still makes money.
00:35:03
Chris
yeah yeah uh sea of thieves they didn't really do anything with that
00:35:09
whatsnow
It still goes. still has people that love it.
00:35:12
Chris
yeah yeah right it just you would think though you know lean into you know halo and gears and forza don't they tangentially own something with call of duty
00:35:16
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:35:32
Chris
Like Activision or something.
00:35:34
whatsnow
Oh, maybe.
00:35:35
Chris
i don't know. But yeah, I mean, just, yeah. But like you said, you know hey, yeah here's here's our roadmap. you know It's going to be these main tentpole games. And that's our big push. And it's yeah you you can use it on Game Pass and PC six months before you can play it anywhere else.
00:35:57
whatsnow
Apparently, they're putting out Halo standalone multiplayer game.
00:36:03
Chris
Really?
00:36:04
whatsnow
Yep.
00:36:05
Chris
Hadn't heard of it.
00:36:06
whatsnow
I hadn't heard anything about it.
00:36:10
whatsnow
And they're
00:36:13
whatsnow
going to do a re-remaster of Halo CE. Cool.
00:36:20
Chris
Halo Studios reported developing a new standalone live service Halo multiplayer game, potentially launching as early as 2026 to act as a long-term, rapidly updated platform. Hmm.
00:36:33
whatsnow
just There are people who love the Halo multiplayer world.
00:36:34
Chris
Hmm.
00:36:37
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:36:38
whatsnow
ah
00:36:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:40
whatsnow
I enjoy the Halo campaigns, but I know that I'm an old man. and
00:36:44
Chris
Yeah, I mean, that's yeah
Xbox vs. Sony: Future Strategies
00:36:47
Chris
Destiny. I enjoy the PvE part of Destiny. I dabble a little bit into the you know the multipplay the raids and stuff like that. But for the most part, yeah, just, yeah, Space Gun go pew pew.
00:37:03
whatsnow
Space Gun Go Pew Pew is in fact correct.
00:37:05
Chris
Yeah. Right.
00:37:07
whatsnow
I just, I don't know, man. It feels like a weird world for an Xbox and i could I could see Microsoft being like, we're done.
00:37:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:17
whatsnow
you know
00:37:18
Chris
Yeah. I mean, is this, and I can't remember cause we were too young at the time, but like Atari, is this kind of what Atari did?
00:37:29
whatsnow
I mean, remember when Atari just what they just sold their name right they weren't even anything left anymore right yeah they'd be just a name and i i guess it could be become xbox right um i mean bungee is just a name right because nobody works at bungee anymore who was a bungee person you know it definitely shows you know
00:37:35
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because like Atari was, yeah yeah, I remember seeing it like on the side of a game. I'm like, how the hell is this Atari?
00:37:46
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:56
Chris
No. No, it shows.
00:38:02
Chris
But again, I think that's part of it, well like you said earlier, where Sony tried to get you know be the all knowing, all powerful. And it's like, yeah, just let Bungie be Bungie.
00:38:13
whatsnow
Yes. Yeah.
00:38:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:15
whatsnow
let
00:38:15
Chris
It's cool that you, eat ah yep. Hey, we, you know, we bought your studio. We're, you know, giving you money to fund projects, but keep doing the good stuff you're doing. But instead it was, no, everything's gotta be, you know, live service and to you need to work on this.
00:38:31
Chris
And then this gets shuttered and there was supposed to be a new update for destiny.
00:38:33
whatsnow
I don't want to.
00:38:36
Chris
There's supposed to be one coming out in 11 days or 12 days from now. And now it's been pushed to June 9th.
00:38:44
whatsnow
they were done
00:38:46
Chris
No. Well, I mean, we got our lightsabers. I mean, we have to do more with that.
00:38:49
whatsnow
I understand that, but then they said they were done, and then now they're not done, which is fine.
00:38:53
Chris
but but but But part of it's also, I'm sure, is, you know, oh, look at all the money we made with, you know, putting in the lightsabers and stuff.
00:39:02
whatsnow
Oh, yeah. It will become Fortnite.
00:39:04
Chris
yeah
00:39:06
whatsnow
Yeah, 100%. you'll You'll have the next you know nerd thing to nerd out about for Destiny. But like I can say, i don't want to say this out loud, but I have to say it to be truthful to myself.
00:39:20
whatsnow
I didn't really enjoy The Last Halo.
00:39:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:23
whatsnow
The Last Halo was an experience that was like, this is not Halo.
00:39:28
Chris
Right.
00:39:29
whatsnow
And that hurts. Because I'm a Halo guy.
00:39:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:33
whatsnow
here
00:39:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:34
whatsnow
You know, I've played every Halo game, as far as I know. There might be some, you know, mobile games I didn't play. But other than that, I've played every Halo game.
00:39:45
whatsnow
And the last one was bad. And that, again, but you think about when was that? That was probably 10 years ago.
00:39:54
Chris
uh it was last halo last halo game
00:39:55
whatsnow
Was that Halo?
00:40:02
Chris
the last mainline halo game is halo infinite uh 2021 by three yeah that was by 343 yeah yeah
00:40:07
whatsnow
Oh, okay. So that's five years ago. And we've heard nothing since.
00:40:18
whatsnow
And it tells to me that a lot about when I see people playing Halo, they're playing the Master Chief Collection.
00:40:25
Chris
Right.
00:40:27
whatsnow
That tells me everything I need to know about what's going on and in the world of Halo.
00:40:31
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:32
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:40:35
whatsnow
um so i mean that's another thing sony does it's oh instead of a new game we're just going remaster this other game you loved it's like yeah that's cool
00:40:40
Chris
Yeah. Oh my gosh. The the Last of Us 2 remaster definitive.
00:40:45
whatsnow
right yeah it's maybe put some new games out
00:40:47
Chris
Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's like, I mean, It's funny, we joke about that, but then one of the studios that they owned, that was that's all they did was remasters Bluepoint. They just got rid of them.
00:41:04
Chris
So it's like, what the are you doing?
00:41:06
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:41:08
Chris
so But I think part of that was they had Bluepoint working on some kind of multiplayer, always-on thing. And it's like, no, they were a you know a remake company. They were really good at that. you know why we why are you going to make them do something else
00:41:29
whatsnow
but I think one of the problems is
00:41:33
whatsnow
and I'm not gonna blame Epic because, you know, but Fortnite did so well and it changed the perception of what gamers want.
00:41:37
Chris
yeah right yeah
00:41:44
whatsnow
It, it didn't change the reality of what we want. It changes the perception of what gamers wanted. And it's such a juggernaut that I don't know that, I don't know that they'll stop doing this stuff.
00:41:56
Chris
yeah
00:41:56
whatsnow
You know, they'll stop. They still just be looking for the next Fortnite all the time.
00:42:01
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah and I think like you said yeah it's fortnight was that one off it's like you know Minecraft that was huge you fortnight huge um you don't get those all the time and I get you know if you don't swing you won't hit but don't force people to
00:42:02
whatsnow
You
00:42:13
whatsnow
Right.
00:42:21
whatsnow
Yeah, but the difference is you you have to swing. You don't just do the same thing that they did or try to, you know, it.
00:42:26
Chris
Right. Exactly. Yeah.
00:42:34
whatsnow
halo shouldn't be a microtransaction game right like that's what kind of annoyed me about halo infinite was like oh you've turned this into something that i have to have these booster packs to play like i know
00:42:38
Chris
No. No.
00:42:50
Chris
ah Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's because they want you to feel that FOMO and,
00:42:57
whatsnow
yeah i don't ever that's i guess the difference for me is i don't
00:42:59
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:02
whatsnow
Yeah. No, that's Blizzard.
00:43:04
Chris
Diablo, is that Xbox? Yeah, it's Blizzard.
00:43:08
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:43:09
Chris
Yeah, so.
00:43:10
whatsnow
They're putting a new expansion out next month.
00:43:15
Chris
Yeah, okay.
00:43:15
whatsnow
think it's next month. Yeah.
00:43:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:18
whatsnow
Diablo never sets you wrong. It's always been Diablo, which is kind of all you want out of it.
00:43:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:24
whatsnow
No,
00:43:25
Chris
Right.
00:43:28
whatsnow
no that Blizzard...
00:43:32
whatsnow
Plus it's own animal.
00:43:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:36
whatsnow
You know, it still boggles my mind that, you know, World of Warcraft is like their number one IP and it's 25 years old?
00:43:40
Chris
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
00:43:44
whatsnow
When did... 04. it's 21 years old.
00:43:46
Chris
It's gotta be.
00:43:51
whatsnow
Good lord.
00:43:51
Chris
World of Warcraft.
00:43:55
whatsnow
o four it's twenty one years old twenty two years old
00:43:56
Chris
Wow. Okay. Yeah. come
00:44:01
whatsnow
lord
00:44:01
Chris
Weren't they supposed to be like doing a remake? Or something of vanilla.
00:44:05
whatsnow
They did. They did that, yeah.
00:44:06
Chris
OK.
00:44:07
whatsnow
Yeah,
00:44:07
Chris
There we go. Yeah.
00:44:08
whatsnow
There's Warcraft Classic. but But they're just... you basically They basically restarted Warcraft.
00:44:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:16
whatsnow
And as the expansions come out, they just have the expansions that... So it's not even now an event it's not even vanilla anymore. It's now it's, you know, whatever.
00:44:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:23
whatsnow
Burning Crusade.
00:44:25
Chris
yeah
00:44:25
whatsnow
ah It burns my soul that I know these things.
00:44:30
Chris
ah yeah
00:44:32
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:44:33
Chris
but yeah, i mean, God,
00:44:37
Chris
with Xbox, oh my gosh, with Xbox, if they really step away from the hardware business, ah Sony's going to be unbearable because there's no not going to be anybody pushing against them because no offense, Nintendo's stuff is not pushing, you know, to the edges of hardware specs.
00:44:48
whatsnow
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:58
whatsnow
No.
00:45:00
Chris
So, I mean, other than PCs, Yeah, Sony's not going to have anything to really vet itself against.
00:45:10
whatsnow
Yeah. Yeah. They. Uh.
00:45:11
Chris
And lazy PlayStation is not a good PlayStation. So.
00:45:20
Chris
um
00:45:20
whatsnow
They also
00:45:26
whatsnow
seemingly have no desire to be better.
00:45:30
Chris
Yeah, I mean, it's um just keep going so
00:45:36
whatsnow
Well,
00:45:41
whatsnow
well I heard the other day that that they're delaying the PlayStation 6 for memory issues.
00:45:44
Chris
oh yeah well and i mean i get part of that is because of the ram yeah i mean we're right in the ramage phase right now where it's ridiculous how much it costs but yeah yeah
00:45:49
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:45:57
whatsnow
Yeah, hey RAM's crazy right now.
00:46:02
whatsnow
And it's just...
00:46:06
whatsnow
It's a... Yeah, it's a problem. I don't know.
00:46:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:10
whatsnow
I don't know what happens if Xbox just doesn't put out the new Xbox 2 or whatever the fuck they're going to call it.
00:46:15
Chris
Right, yeah. Yeah.
00:46:17
whatsnow
you know I think maybe they put out a mobile game. I don't you know. i don't know
00:46:21
Chris
Well, weren't they talking about when their next was supposed to be like a hybrid kind of thing?
00:46:24
whatsnow
Yeah, it's supposed
00:46:28
whatsnow
I think the next thing that's supposed to come out is the the handheld version, whatever, that's supposed to play the cloud gaming.
00:46:33
Chris
Yeah. and Okay. And that should compete against the ROG ally and The Steam box? No, Steam.
00:46:43
whatsnow
Steam Deck.
00:46:43
Chris
What's the... Steam Deck. Yeah.
00:46:45
whatsnow
Yeah, Steam Deck is...
00:46:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:49
Chris
But again, it can't be $1,000 like those two are.
00:46:53
whatsnow
No. It can't. It can't.
00:46:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:59
whatsnow
and may I mean, hope not.
00:47:00
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:47:02
whatsnow
I guess I should say.
00:47:04
Chris
It's...
00:47:04
whatsnow
Well, it's sad for Phil Spencer.
00:47:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:07
Chris
ah Yeah. I mean, I hope he's doing well.
00:47:08
whatsnow
you know I'm sure he's laughing in Roth IRAs and 401k monies.
00:47:16
Chris
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
00:47:17
whatsnow
I'm sure when we say it's sad for Phil Spencer, he's like, I'm still a millionaire. I'm cool.
00:47:22
Chris
Yeah. And Phil, we know you listen, so.
00:47:22
whatsnow
you know Right. Yeah.
00:47:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:26
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:47:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:30
whatsnow
Well, on to topic two.
00:47:32
Chris
Sure. Topic
The Appeal of Scary Movies
00:47:34
Chris
two. um So there's a new movie out this weekend. I think it just debuted last night. I don't know.
00:47:45
Chris
It's the... seventh, I think in the series of scream.
00:47:50
whatsnow
They made a new scream.
00:47:51
Chris
Yes, they did. And evidently Matthew Lillard is back and like a bunch of the original characters are back.
00:47:58
whatsnow
Did he die?
00:47:59
Chris
like it I don't know, man, but it's my, my whole thing is, I mean, what, why do we go see scary movies?
00:48:02
whatsnow
oh well look that's a whole other my uh you gotta talk to my wife i can't answer this question she's she she subscribes to shutter which is nothing but scary movies 24 hours a day seven days
00:48:25
Chris
Oh, that's comforting.
00:48:29
whatsnow
So whenever I walk upstairs and the TV's on, it's either on Grey's Anatomy or or ah or her some sort of horror movie. Yeah.
00:48:37
Chris
So either way, something that's terrifying.
00:48:40
whatsnow
Yes. It's all bad for me. It's all bad for me.
00:48:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:44
whatsnow
Yeah,
00:48:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:47
whatsnow
yeah I don't know what the thrill of scary movies is. I've never gotten it.
00:48:51
Chris
Yeah. I, yeah. So, I mean, I remember like when my wife and I first started dating, I thought that was just something you did. Like you watch scary movies, like on dates and stuff.
00:49:03
Chris
And like, can't remember. We went to see the Amityville horror in the theater and yeah, just, I don't like so what's that.
00:49:08
whatsnow
The Ryan Reynolds ones? Was that Ryan Reynolds?
00:49:12
Chris
Yes.
00:49:12
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:13
Chris
Yeah. Terrifying.
00:49:15
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:16
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And then we walked back to our condo in the dark. um
00:49:21
whatsnow
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:22
Chris
Yeah. But I mean, I, I don't like scary things. We, we know this, but my wife is like, yeah. Oh, you know, it's, it's scream seven and it's bringing all this back and everything. ah And I was like, I mean, i guess I'll go with you. She's really, but's like, do I really want to pay money to like leave a wet spot in a theater?
00:49:44
whatsnow
see like scream wouldn't bother me because it's just it's not like it's not supernatural
00:49:49
Chris
I mean, yeah, that is the more of the just the slasher kind of thing.
00:49:53
whatsnow
right it's the supernatural ones that get me i don't like any of those creepy doll movie annabelle and all crap i'm out i i can't
00:49:56
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:50:01
Chris
Uh-uh. Nope. Nope. Yeah.
00:50:05
whatsnow
I watched, I can't remember, it was it called Darkness Falls? when I had nightmares for months about that movie.
00:50:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:12
whatsnow
And my wife's like, it's not scary. I'm like, it's to me, it is
00:50:16
Chris
Yeah. yeah let say my My oldest watch likes to watch scary movies. And she was...
00:50:25
whatsnow
That's surprising to me.
00:50:26
Chris
Yeah, yeah. yeah well She was home. And for some weekend, i don't know. And one, she's a maniac because everything she watches, she has subtitles on.
00:50:40
Chris
I'm like, ge do you not hear well, Nana? I mean, what? God, she's like, I just like to have the subtitles just in case I don't hear what they say. I can read it. I'm like, okay, they're brainchild, whatever. But she's watching.
00:50:54
Chris
she she i just walk into the room and she was watching a movie. And I look and it was like, don't know, just normal dressed people and everything. I was like, oh, what are you watching?
00:51:04
Chris
And the little shit goes, oh, it's a remake of Little House on the Prairie. That's it.
00:51:10
whatsnow
Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:51:11
Chris
Well, that's weird, but okay. So I sat down and I'm like playing on my phone. I'm like watching a little bit. I'm like, oh, this, okay. And she's like, yeah, this is supposed to be so-and-so and this is supposed to be so-and-so.
00:51:22
Chris
was like, okay, I'm trying to put things together. I'm like, all right. Well then I'm looking down at my phone and all of sudden I hear like music, like, cor go go or I'm like, well, that doesn't sound like Little House on the Prairie at all.
00:51:35
Chris
And I look up and like the screen now has a darker tint to it. and it's like the so the caption says demonic gurgling or something like that i was like what what what have they done to little house in the prairie she's like no it's actually what i don't know one of those like possession movies i was like what the hell is wrong with you and she he here so i got up and left the room i was like what the hell
00:51:54
whatsnow
Oh, no, I'm out. I'm out.
00:52:03
whatsnow
Now, I'm going to defend scary movies. Because when we were younger, scary movies and comedies equaled one thing. And what was that thing?
00:52:13
Chris
sleepover oh boobs oh yeah yeah i thought you meant what you did yeah oh yeah god yeah yeah there were boobs all the time yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:52:14
whatsnow
No. Boobs in the movie. Okay.
00:52:21
whatsnow
Yeah. They were boobs all the time. So that's why you watch those movies. Because they were boobs. Yeah.
00:52:28
Chris
yeah
00:52:29
whatsnow
Otherwise, I'm out.
00:52:31
Chris
yeah it's yeah no no yeah like poltergeist and uh yeah
00:52:32
whatsnow
I'm not watching any of these scary movies.
00:52:37
whatsnow
Oh, God, no. Culture Dice is so terrifying. And that little girl dies in real life.
00:52:41
Chris
yeah
00:52:46
whatsnow
Yeah, the little girl died.
00:52:48
Chris
What?
00:52:49
whatsnow
yeah yeah yeah that's yeah that's why she's not in yes and the guy is they're digging the pool for the back of house and ends up being like an indian burial ground and he falls into the bones yeah no and then poltergeist 2 has that super creepy preacher oh god it's terrible
00:52:50
Chris
No.
00:52:59
Chris
Is that the one where they like reach through the TV? Oh, yeah.
00:53:08
Chris
Yes! Oh, God, yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, The Exorcist, Rosemary's Baby.
00:53:21
whatsnow
The Exorcist. Exorcist never really got me as bad, but Poltergeist. It's Craig T. Nelson. The man's coach, for God's sakes.
00:53:29
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:32
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:53:34
Chris
Hellraiser.
00:53:36
whatsnow
Oh, Hellraiser. I have such terrible things to show you.
00:53:37
Chris
Yeah, how I watched Hellraiser for a girl.
00:53:41
whatsnow
Oh.
00:53:42
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:43
whatsnow
fair was she into weird leather and pins oh okay
00:53:49
Chris
not pins.
00:53:56
Chris
ah Uh, yeah.
00:53:58
whatsnow
yeah but otherwise you're watching it for the boobs yeah yeah hey chance at boobs here you higher percentage chance of boobs therefore i'm watching this movie
00:53:59
Chris
But yeah. Yeah. Or a chance at boob. Yeah.
00:54:09
Chris
Right. Right. Yeah.
00:54:10
whatsnow
know one always got? Well, clearly the one that got me the worst, Jaws.
00:54:17
Chris
Uh, yeah.
00:54:17
whatsnow
You know, still the greatest movie I've ever made, the scariest movie I've ever made.
00:54:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:21
whatsnow
But then I think it was Gator?
00:54:23
Chris
Doll's eyes.
00:54:25
whatsnow
Where they push the kid into the swimming pool and there's a gator in a pool?
00:54:29
Chris
What the hell?
00:54:30
whatsnow
Yeah, that one got me bad.
00:54:32
Chris
Gator.
00:54:33
whatsnow
think it was called Gator. Yeah, yeah. giant gator like comes out of the so the sewers and gets in a swimming pool it was bad yeah and the c chub yeah yeah it has burt reynolds in it yes yes yeah
00:54:45
Chris
Gator the movie. 1976. 1976.
00:54:48
Chris
It's listed as an action comedy. It's Burt Reynolds. Oh my gosh. Gator is an action adventure film directed by and it was directed by Burt Reynolds.
00:55:02
whatsnow
that's cool that's a fun fact
00:55:05
Chris
Wait, no, this has to be a different movie.
00:55:08
whatsnow
I don't know. There was a there's a movie.
00:55:09
Chris
Gator, is stars as Gator Mikulski, a moonshine runner who goes undercover for the feds to take down his childhood friend, the corrupt crime boss, Bama McCall, Jerry Reed.
00:55:14
whatsnow
No, that's not it.
00:55:20
whatsnow
No, that's not it.
00:55:21
Chris
Oh, it's a sequel to White Lightning.
00:55:24
whatsnow
Alligator eats kid in swimming pool.
00:55:31
whatsnow
Movie. um Alligator was the name of the movie.
00:55:38
Chris
Alligator.
00:55:39
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:55:39
Chris
Okay.
00:55:39
whatsnow
1980. Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:47
whatsnow
Mutate alligator terrorizing a city.
00:55:49
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:55:50
whatsnow
Yeah.
00:55:51
Chris
A giant hormone-enhanced alligator terrorizing the sewers of Chicago after being flushed down the toilet as a baby.
00:55:57
whatsnow
Yeah. And then in Chubb, there's a terrible scene where the girl takes a shower and blood comes out because of the
00:56:04
Chris
Duh.
00:56:05
whatsnow
think It's a dog is dead in the sewers. It's a weird movie.
00:56:09
Chris
Oh, that's not nice. Oh,
00:56:11
whatsnow
Yeah. He needs had some...
00:56:14
Chris
alligator does star Robin Riker.
00:56:16
whatsnow
I don't know who that is
00:56:18
Chris
and don't know. Robert Forster, Robin Riker, Michael Gazzo, and Sue Leon in her final role.
00:56:25
whatsnow
Hmm.
00:56:25
Chris
Oh, a cult classic that spawned a sequel, Alligator 2, The Mutation, in 1990.
00:56:32
whatsnow
Ooh. Never saw that one.
00:56:37
Chris
Alligator 2, The Mutation. Oh, wow, that's terrifying. Yeah. A giant alligator mutated by toxic chemicals dumped in the sewers by a corporation terrorizes a city leading a detective Joe baloney and a Cajun hunter Richard Lynch.
00:56:54
whatsnow
yeah
00:56:57
Chris
To team up to stop it before a town party directed by john Hess it's a PG 13.
00:57:01
whatsnow
the guy o Heather O'Rourke who played Carol Ann from Poltergeist died at the age of 12 1988 from a misdiagnosed intestinal obstruction while filming Poltergeist 3 yeah it's fair
00:57:03
Chris
Hmm.
00:57:18
Chris
Yeah, see, I think they just want to tell us it was a misdiagnosed bowel issue.
00:57:25
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:57:27
whatsnow
I mean, I'm on your side. Don't go to scary movies.
00:57:28
Chris
Pet cemetery?
00:57:29
whatsnow
Oh my god, Petson Artarii is terrifying. That's a terrible movie.
00:57:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:34
whatsnow
oh
00:57:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:35
whatsnow
God. Cujo.
00:57:38
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:57:41
Chris
Um...
00:57:45
Chris
Yeah. Oh, the thing.
00:57:48
whatsnow
It's a great movie. I'll watch the thing. Kurt Russell, come on.
00:57:54
Chris
yeah Oh, ah what what was that one with ah Sam Neill in the.
00:57:57
whatsnow
And Wilford Brimley.
00:57:59
Chris
ah
00:58:00
whatsnow
Oh, Event Horizon.
00:58:02
Chris
Yes.
00:58:03
whatsnow
Yeah, it's a fucked up movie.
00:58:04
Chris
Oh, God. Yeah.
00:58:07
whatsnow
That's a fucked up movie.
00:58:08
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:09
whatsnow
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:12
Chris
Cabin Fever. We watched that. God, that was bad.
00:58:16
whatsnow
My wife loves that movie.
00:58:17
Chris
28 days later.
00:58:18
whatsnow
Not a fan. Zombies.
00:58:19
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:24
Chris
It's like, Ooh, the ring. You remember that phenomenon?
00:58:29
whatsnow
The Ring is a terrifying movie to this day.
00:58:31
Chris
Yeah. But I'm saying, remember that whole thing about it and Oh, Oh God.
00:58:32
whatsnow
Ringu is even worse. Yes, I do. It's bad.
00:58:36
Chris
What was the one that they did in Maryland?
00:58:40
whatsnow
Oh, Blair Witch.
00:58:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:47
whatsnow
There was also another weird kid movie that was like The Ring.
00:58:48
Chris
hmm uh children of the corn yeah yeah yeah eraser head what the hell is that
00:58:50
whatsnow
i can't remember it was called.
00:58:54
whatsnow
Oh, no, no, that's also so bad.
00:59:06
Chris
yeah mean some of them were just scary yeah like friday the 13th nightmare on elm street halloween
00:59:14
whatsnow
Of all of those, Halloween is the best one. By far.
00:59:19
Chris
yeah yeah the text
00:59:21
whatsnow
What is that movie with the kids?
Impact of Scary Movies on Viewers
00:59:23
whatsnow
And he's like crawling across the ceiling. Oh, man.
00:59:26
Chris
uh scary movies with kids well it that's one of the most terrifying things
00:59:36
whatsnow
The book's way scarier than the movie, though.
00:59:37
Chris
uh nope um witches that was creepy but this must be what you're talking about earnest scared stupid
00:59:48
whatsnow
That was definitely it. It was Ernest James Sinkin. I remember specifically that was the movie I was scared of the most.
00:59:52
Chris
Hmm.
00:59:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:59:56
whatsnow
What was that movie called? It was like a Japanese movie.
01:00:00
Chris
The orphan?
01:00:00
whatsnow
The girl was like babysitting. Oh, man.
01:00:05
Chris
Oh,
01:00:08
whatsnow
It's somewhere around the same time as The thing as the Ring.
01:00:13
Chris
yeah. don't know.
01:00:14
whatsnow
Yeah. That's got Brian Cox in it, The Ring, I believe.
01:00:18
Chris
Really?
01:00:19
whatsnow
Yeah, he's in a lot of movies that you wouldn't expect him to be in.
01:00:20
Chris
Hmm. Yeah.
01:00:25
Chris
hmm
01:00:25
whatsnow
And the creepy brushing the hair scene. oh I'm not to able to sleep tonight. Great. I got to work tomorrow. on Thanks.
01:00:34
Chris
yeah yeah okay somebody's them they insidious i think that's a movie my daughter was watching psychopath yeah
01:00:46
whatsnow
uh those movies are terrifying any of those insidious franchise movies are terrifying the grudge yes i don't remember that part but just remember the kid running around let school
01:00:54
Chris
Oh, I think this is a Jew on the grudge.
01:00:58
Chris
Was that the one that like the fist coming out of the guy's head or whatever?
01:01:06
whatsnow
least
01:01:06
Chris
Yeah, I just don't get the.
01:01:08
whatsnow
oh they made a new evil dead movie and it's scary those those those movies aren't supposed to be scary
01:01:14
Chris
Yeah, I thought Army of Darkness, that was. Yeah.
01:01:16
whatsnow
Yeah, we're talking to a lovely comedic jaunt.
01:01:18
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:22
whatsnow
Yeah.
01:01:22
Chris
Yeah, hail to the king.
01:01:24
whatsnow
I'm on a bubble again.
01:01:26
Chris
Yeah.
01:01:28
whatsnow
Yeah.
01:01:28
Chris
Klaatu, Natu.
01:01:30
whatsnow
I said the words. said the words I did by Park.
01:01:33
Chris
You know what mean?
01:01:33
whatsnow
Send me back.
01:01:36
Chris
Yeah, I just, I don't know. So yeah, yeah. I mean, if you like scary movies out there, go yeah, I mean, good on you, but no, I want to know why. Yeah.
01:01:45
whatsnow
Clearly people love him because they're going to Scream 7. I
01:01:48
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
01:01:51
whatsnow
mean, do they bring back Doofy?
01:01:55
Chris
Doofy. That was from so the scary movie, not Scream.
01:01:58
whatsnow
Yeah, but in it's based off of what's his name in scar scary movie erin Scream.
01:02:02
Chris
Oh, Arquette. David Arquette.
01:02:03
whatsnow
yeah yeah
01:02:05
Chris
His character had to have died.
01:02:09
Chris
I don't know.
01:02:10
whatsnow
first off I think I watched one of the screams and second all it was 20 plus years ago probably Courtney Cox yeah
01:02:13
Chris
probably of It's probably the first one. Drew Barrymore.
01:02:20
Chris
Courtney Cox. Yeah, Matthew Lillard. ah Oh, God, what's that kid's name? Skeet something? Skeet Ulrich?
01:02:28
whatsnow
sure lot of skates out there I think so yeah
01:02:29
Chris
Yeah, yeah. David Arquette. Yeah, because isn't that why David Arquette Courtney Cox got together? Yeah, yeah. Hmm, yeah.
01:02:39
Chris
So, yeah.
01:02:40
whatsnow
And then, you know, that was when she decided she was going do movies and then stop doing movies promptly after that.
01:02:47
Chris
Oh, God. Yeah. She got some plastic surgery. and the
01:02:50
whatsnow
Oh, got real bypass surgery. Yeah.
01:02:52
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:55
whatsnow
Yeah.
01:02:56
Chris
Well, I think that was a good podcast.
01:02:58
whatsnow
Yeah. and I'm going to help you enjoy your Scream 7.
01:03:01
Chris
I hope not. But, ah yeah. Take care, folks. And, yeah. Warmer weather is coming.
01:03:08
whatsnow
It's coming. It has to. They say this we get a buzzer next week.
01:03:13
Chris
Don't say that.