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THE DREAD BROADCAST EP2: Jessica Lacy Joins the Panel! Horror Reviews, Streaming Picks & Collector Must-Haves image

THE DREAD BROADCAST EP2: Jessica Lacy Joins the Panel! Horror Reviews, Streaming Picks & Collector Must-Haves

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Welcome to Episode 2 of The Dread Broadcast — your new favorite monthly horror news roundtable, hosted by Tim and Johnathan of The Average Reviews Podcast! We’re building a free, creator-powered community, fueled by our love of horror in all its forms. If you’re into slashers, screamers, physical media, or under-the-radar gems, you’re in the right place.  🕯️ This Month’s Highlights Include:  • Special Guest Spotlight: Jessica Lacy (formerly Ivy Tholen) — author of Tastes Like Candy, Maul Rats, and more! She joins us to talk about writing slashers with heart, humor, and grit.  • The Cutting Room:   • Indie screeners from Raindance reviewed by @journeywithacinephile  • @thehorrorvision breaks down the buzzed-about A Desert  • @MovieDumpster joins with their signature insight  • The Curio Cabinet:  • @abhorrormovies brings lesser-known horrors into the light  • @superkickingit shares perfect summer slasher reads & Giallo-inspired books  • @thekiltandtheredneck covers horror gaming updates  • The Crypt:  • @facethemovies & @qthemoviecollector team up for a surprise physical media spotlight  📼 Plus: We tease Episode 3 (coming late July) featuring a found-footage indie horror producer as our next special guest.  🧛‍♂️ Don’t forget to: ✅ Like & Subscribe 💬 Drop a comment 📢 Tag your favorite horror creators — we want YOU in the conversation! 📺 Watch now and rewatch anytime on our channel.  #TheDreadBroadcast #HorrorNews #JessicaLacy #IndieHorror #PhysicalMedia #HorrorPodcast #HorrorCommunity #WhatToWatch #SummerSlashers #GialloBooks #HorrorGaming #A24 #FoundFootage  #RaindanceFilmFestival #SupportIndieHorror #CollectorsEdition

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Introduction and Purpose

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Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Dread broadcast. I'm Tim, one half of the Average Reviews podcast and your solo host tonight as we kick off episode two of this little experiment we started just a month ago.
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If you're new here, the Dread broadcast is a monthly horror news roundtable built by creators for fans. Every month we bring together voices from across the horror space, reviewers, collectors, readers, streamers, podcasters, you name it.
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If you love horror and have something to say, we want you at this table.

Meet the Panelists

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What we're building here is more than just a recap show. It's a space. It's a community.
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It's a celebration of horror in all of its forms and the people who love it in their own unique way. So if you're watching this and thinking, do I belong in something like this?
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The answer is yes. Come as you are minimal minimal prep. Just bring something you're excited to talk about, something that reflects what you already do in your corner of the Internet. That's the heartbeat of the Dread broadcast.
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So for tonight's killer panel, we start off with the cutting room where we have Sean from the horror vision. Sean, you can take a second say hello.
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Hello. Glad to be here. Thank you for the invite. I love what you're doing with this. Awesome. We're excited to have you. um there we go. And David from journey with a cinephile will be joining us later.
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And we also have Sean another Sean from the movie dumpster. Sean, thank you. Thanks for having me. How you doing guys? Super excited to have you.
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I've been listening. I ah so I discovered you guys. ah I was teaching junior high when COVID hit and I was being called into the classroom still while students were not to do cleaning and stuff like that.
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And I found you guys trying to find something to listen to while I was working and I've been listening ever since. So I'm super excited to have you here. Awesome. That's ah that's pretty cool to hear. Yeah, my co-host Joe LaScolla could not make it tonight. Actually had a power outage. I think a tornado whipped through a banger and took took out his ah power line.
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But yeah, we're a horror movie podcast. We do a little bit of everything, but horror is kind of our focus. So it kind of made sense to ah come here on the Dreadcast and talk about, I don't know, horror.
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Well, we're glad to have you. And hopefully the tornado wasn't too devastating. Hopefully we hear something from him soon. Helen Hunt was out there. She's taking care of it. All right. And in the curio cabinet where hidden gems, oddities and under the radar horror gets its moment, we have Aaron returning from last episode. Aaron.
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Yes. Hi, Tim. Thank you for having me. erin here from A&B Horror Movies, and I have eight lesser known and newer independent films that I'm going to share tonight. going to be fun.
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Awesome. So excited to have you. And new this time, we have Kelsey from Slime and Slashers. Hey, thanks for having me. And thank you to all my corns in the live chat right now. i i They're like bombarding the chat. Thank you for being here, you guys. And thank you, Tim, for having me. And I'm so glad to be on with so many fellow creators. And I plan on talking about ah boatload of fricking slasher books today and some Giallo adjacent books. So excited about that and excited to hear what everyone else has to say.
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I cannot wait. Thank you so much for being here. And we also have Evan. He is not here at the moment. He is on his way. He did just message me from the kill in the redneck podcast. I believe he is here to highlight some horror video games tonight and then rounding it out in the crypt. The physical media lovers.
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We have GC returning from our first episode GC from face the movies. Tim, thank you so much for having me back, man. And ah dude, I got to say that intro was phenomenal. Like I was just sitting here bobbing my head, just waiting. And I was like, oh, I look like an idiot just here by myself.
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um Yeah, I'm excited to be here. i have a few physical media releases that I'm excited to talk about. Some new, some old, some that probably nobody's ever heard of. So yeah, excited to be here.
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Awesome. we're good We're glad you liked it so much the first time when you had zero prep that you came back for a second one. And now now we're ah we're excited to see what you prepped for us this time.
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Oh, absolutely. And you brought your friend Q the movie collector with you. Q. yeah Excited to have you here. I'm glad to be here, man. Thanks for bringing me on. I'm excited to talk about some some of the physical media that i have here. And just like GC and everyone else was saying, man, that intro is awesome.
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It got me hyped, seriously. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I ah dabble. Like I said, I dabble with graphic design and editing stuff in my free time. So it's that's my fun stuff. I just do that for fun. And Evan, you did make it, Evan.
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Yeah. Hey, awesome. Sorry. Good to have you. You can say hi now if you want not to put you on the spot.

Jessica Lacey's Journey in Slasher Fiction

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Oh, no. Hello, everybody. Sorry. I just I was sitting here writing notes and then I looked at the phone and I was like, oh, my God, I'm late.
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I need to hurry up. That is all right. All right. So it's a stacked panel. And we haven't even gotten to our spotlight guest. So joining us tonight is an author whose work has carved out a fierce heartfelt space in modern slasher fiction.
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You may know her under her former pen name of Ivy Tholen. But tonight she's stepping into the light as Jessica Lacey. Jessica is the brilliant mind behind Tastes Like Candy, Mallrats, Mother Deer and more novels that blend slasher brutality with heart, humor and kind of grit that keeps keeps you flipping pages well past midnight.
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So under your real real name, starting a bold new chapter. We're honored to have you here tonight to talk about what's next, what inspires you and what's lurking in the pages ahead. Jessica, welcome to the Dread broadcast.
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Hello, i am so happy to be here. And I've been on your podcast multiple times, many times for like a year and a half. now but test Multiple times. And this is this is the first time I'm ever using my real name. It's very exciting.
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The whole thing is, yeah, it's a lot. um It's a shift for me to just go from calling you Jessica after having called you Ivy on camera for so long. So you had to work it because you've known my real name most of the time.
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Yes, I have. It was never it was never ah it was never a behind like behind the scenes. I didn't care if people knew, but I always wrote under a pen name. I chose to write under a pen name because if the book sucked, I didn't want to like ruin my name. So I wanted there to be something.
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If they were bad, I could just delete them and make them go away and then when all of this happened, it was kind of the perfect way to switch it over and start using my own because now I know the books don't suck. So I'm not like embarrassed to thank you.
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i'll pop those up every now and then. So just so you know, you'll see them coming. Just so you're aware.
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Um, but yeah, I don't know. should how how should I tell this story? Cause I'll tell the whole story. Uh, I think, I mean, most of us discovered you obviously under Ivy. Yeah. Uh, clearly you have since found out that people don't think your books suck. You quite enjoy them.
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Uh, in fact, I'm always curious. Let's, let's go back to the moment you realized people enjoyed them when you heard a certain other author yeah drop your book on another show.
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Yeah. I think that was a big moment for you So maybe start there and move forward. I've noticed the whole thing has always come in waves. Like when i started getting daily sales, like that was one.
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And the one that you're talking about is Out of nowhere, my sales kind of blew up and I knew somebody somewhere must have been talking about me. And for the record, I've never run any kind of ads.
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So any of my sales that I got were completely organic, completely word of mouth or people saw the cover. I know the cover was a huge thing. um And they...
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They picked me up from there. So I had these, these massive amount of sales and I was sitting on my couch one day and I do not remember the person, but I know they are somehow associated with Kelsey. I don't remember the person that messaged me, but she messaged me and she was like, I'm at a book event with Steven Graham Jones and he's talking about you right now.
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And i Googled and he had tweeted about me before. And then I found out he had talked about me on a podcast and he compared me to Deborah Hill, which made me cry.
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um And if for anybody who doesn't know who that is, and I don't know why you're listening to this if you don't know who that is, but Poe wrote and produced Halloween. yes um So that's, yes, exactly.
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um who That was the first time i was like, oh, this really doesn't suck. Like this is something real. And it kept me going and it kept me publishing. And I got four books out of it.
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And There had been a couple of instances where people had reached out to me to discuss rights or that kind of thing. And I wasn't super interested because I didn't want to. I don't know. I didn't. I don't want to be in a situation where people are telling me what to write.
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I don't ever want to be in that situation. So I was fine just being independent. But sometime last November, I got a message on Instagram from an editor at Sourcebooks.
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And I spent like two hours trying to verify her identity because you should always do that. Don't get scammed. um But- This is not a scam. This was for real. but This was for real.
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And I ended up, she she ended up wanting to buy all of the existing books plus three more. And um I do have full control over what's in the books.
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Nobody asked me to change anything. um all of the changes that I made to taste like candy were my choices. ah There were a couple of places where they were like, can you do more with this? Can this be bigger?
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um I know that there's a death at the end when the killer dies. um She wanted it more cinematic and it it just became, what it's insane now. Like it was bonkers before, but it's crazy now.
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Sean has read it, he can attest. It is. It is crazy. um But it is it is still me. It is still the same quality. It's still, it's kind of like as if the person who wrote Mother Dear got to take it, got to write Taste Like Candy.
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So any of the growth from there is in Taste Like Candy now. And it's probably my favorite thing I've ever written. And six months ago, it was so cringy, I couldn't even read it.
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So that ought to tell you.
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I was muted. ah That's super exciting. I can't wait to see where you are going now. ah I still, it's incredible to me. You did this all independently.
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Yeah. Moving into that. So, and you kind of covered, there hasn't been like, it's still your vision. That's not changing. No one has to worry about that part, right? No.
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This is all still going to it's always been Jessica and it's still going to be Jessica. Yeah. so you bring my cover designer and my little icon is, is the the new cover.
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Um, he did a great job and we've got something really cool coming for the next book. Cause the books are going to be coming out every six months. So September, we're going to get tastes like candy, April, we're getting mother deer, but she has a new title.
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So that'll be, yes, she has a new title. Um, It's gonna be called Fatally Yours. nobody never Nobody ever told me whether I could or couldn't say that, so I'm just gonna, I don't care. It's called Fatally Yours.
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And i it was it was they wanted to change it because it didn't really sell the book necessarily very well, and I wasn't super attached to the title, so I didn't care. And they did we we threw together a list of of potential names and they focus grouped it and stuff.
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And that was the winner. And it was one I came up with. So I was pretty happy. But yeah, and I added some stuff to the book to make the title make more sense.
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I'm not going to say what that is yet, though. I can't wait for that one. I do like I do like the title. I have to admit I do. It's an alkaline trio song.
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Okay, so does anybody else have more questions for her or am I diving in? i have a few questions. Go for it. you don't mind. Yeah. um I'm really excited to read these revised versions. I've read every single one of your books except for Tastes Like Candy 2.
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And you told me yourself, Jessica, that I should just wait. Yes. Till it's released. So that's the only reason I haven't read that one yet, but I have loved them all. oh I am so glad you got to keep the cover artist. Cause I do think that really set your books apart from other indie books, in my opinion.
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Absolutely. I'm also wondering with this new release and like the redone covers and everything, are you also going to have audio books available? Because I know a lot of people love audio books that, um,
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who are into reading these days. Yes, um I am. ah Spotify is going to be releasing audio books for the, they currently we have the four existing ah books are ah part of the deal, but I can't imagine if the other ones don't sell well, they won't also get picked up as well.
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I do not know anything about them. I don't know when they're coming. i don't know. i know nothing except they are coming.

Writing Techniques and Influences

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So. I'm really excited about it. It was, it was, yeah I got to, um they gave like a questionnaire kind of thing about what kind of person you would want to be narrating. Cause I think that I get approval, but I at least get to suggest. So we're we're hunting for a young sounding Texan girl.
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So yeah, I'm very, very, very excited. So they're going to, they're going to be authentic sounding as well, which I'm really happy about. That's awesome. I'm really excited about that. The books take place in Texas, so.
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Buc-ee's.
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When I saw the Buc-ee's reference, I was like, oh my God, Buc-ee's. I mean, I live in Louisiana. and We don't really have any super near, but every time I've taken a road trip, we stop by to get those hot roasted peanuts.
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Yes. Oh, yes. I've been doing it by keys. That's fantastic. I think we have one over the end now, maybe. Oh, excellent. I think it's exciting about the audio books, especially Jessica, because I feel like you are one of the rare authors who I think can write like a horror movie style.
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yeah And that is so difficult for authors to do. There's only a few other people besides you who I've ever felt that with when I've been reading their books. I would say you, um Adam Caesar, David Sodegrin would be a few others that I would say have that horror movie style.
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Do you attribute that to you know your love of horror movies or what what kind of influenced your style basically? For me, it's intentional. I'm intentionally trying to write a slasher movie that you can read.
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um and Because i was not allowed to watch horror movies whenever I was growing up. And I was allowed to read whatever I wanted. So whatever I could get my hands on.
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And cut my teeth on Fear Street. So this is what I'm doing is basically Fear Street, but more modern and way more violent.
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One of the things that we're trying to impart with this book is it's it's cute and fluffy and pink, but it's violent. Very, very violent. um They are considered YA because I write about teenagers, but I write about teenagers because that's who the victims in slasher movies are.
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So I've never been sort of trying to talk down to an audience or write specifically for young people. It's more of a y'all want to come along, you're welcome along for the ride. This is people your age. But I have people who are fans of the kind of movies that I'm fans of. Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Scream, all of that kind of stuff.
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um I think Adam Caesar probably... sees things with a similar light because I know he's extremely influenced by horror films in general. So that may be why you're seeing that in both of us, but it's a hundred percent intentional with me.
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And recently I went back and started rereading some, old Fear Street books. And it's not one for one, it's not identical because my voice is very different than his.
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But you can see the beats in the story that absolutely match up with the Fear Street books. And it's not intentional at all. It's just that those things have bored themselves into my brain, that that just happens to be the way that I write.
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So it's a combination of the the fear street and then just getting ideas and inspiration from horror films. Every time I sit down and I think, okay, I want to kill someone with a lawnmower. I started thinking about what's been done in film and what can i how can I play with that? And I'll go and I'll watch a handful of movies that have lawnmower kills and I'll see what I can do differently.
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Leprechaun too. Because writing flashers is literally, it's literally just doing the same thing over and over again, but in a completely different way. It's just knowing the tropes, knowing what you can do and just going crazy with it. I don't know.
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It's, it's just fun. I just really love fun horror and I think that we're getting a lot of it again and I'm glad to be part of it. have to agree with the chat and like your kills are some of the most creative kills ever. I love them.
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I mean, watermelons, like the description of watermelons and tastes like candy, the dunk scene and tastes like candy as well. Oh my gosh, so many great moments. I cannot wait to read the revised edition, especially because you said that you feel like you've grown as a writer and comparing like, you know, your more recent book, Mother Dear to Tastes Like Candy, I do feel like those are my two favorites of yours out of all that I've read. and they're But they're very different because Tastes Like Candy is um more of there's an exposition. You do get to know the main character and her group of friends.
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You do spend a little time getting to know them. And I think that's actually really unique because in a horror movie, you don't always have to have likable characters. It doesn't matter. a slasher could be freaking bonkers insane cheesy as hell and it's badass it's great but with a horror book it doesn't always work if you have unlikable characters it really depends on the author but what you did with taste like candy is you made them really likable and i think that made the kills which were creative and badass to begin with even more impactful but when you go to mother deer that one
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it starts a lot quicker. Like you get a taste of a kill really early on in the book versus Taste Like Candy. So was that on purpose, you trying to do a kill sooner in your more recent book or you know just yeah wanting to go a different direction? What were your thoughts about that? It was 100% intentional.
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um One of the biggest complaints about the original Taste Like Candy was that it was slow to start. um And so whenever I got another crack, it tastes like candy. I added an opening kill.
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Like I think from now on, I feel like I'm sort of, I don't read reviews most of the time, but occasionally I will have someone else read them. And if so something is coming up repeatedly, that's a problem.
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And I want to be able to work on it, but I can't handle reading direct reviews, positive or negative. It just doesn't work for me. um and but But now I know people want something right out of the gate. I'll happily give you something right out of the gate. I will have a throat slit on page three if you want that.
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ah But I did love the character development in Taste Like Candy. That didn't bother me at all. But I just noticed it was very starkly different when I started Mother Dear and it was like a chill right there, right in the beginning. But then you did still pepper in the character development. So that was still there, you know, even though you kind of added something different at the beginning. I like how you could see the evolution. So that makes me extra excited to see the revised versions.
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I'm I'm with you. One of my favorite parts about your books has always been the characters. They often feel like people I know in real life. And sometimes that makes it more fun when they die. Sometimes that makes it harder when they die. It just depends on who you're writing.
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ah We do have a question from the comments that since you were talking about Fear Street, do you have a favorite Fear Street book, Jessica? The Cheerleaders series. I was so obsessed with those.
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And the cover of the, I think it's the first one where she's got the pom-poms and they're in the shape of a skull. That is my favorite book cover of all time. And I can't right now tell you which one it is. It's the first evil, I'm pretty sure.
00:22:46
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I'm pretty it's the first one Anyway, favorite of all time. And I want to ape it someday for something. I mean, All right, we've talked you've written some great teen characters. Is there a certain character that has stuck with you the longest after finishing a book?
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Katie Rose. Do you mean writing one or reading one? after youve Like while you're writing it and you have finished writing it, but that character is still in your head, planting ideas for more. sake Katie Rose from Mother Dear, 100%. And she starts popping up everywhere.
00:23:22
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And that's fine because I kind of it's i'm I want her but she's popping up. She's she's she's got a ah she's she's currently in Tastes Like Candy, too, but she's getting ah another cameo in that book that's going to be nuts And then she's definitely part of Tastes Like Candy 3.
00:23:38
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So Kelsey's really excited. I really am. I really love your books quite a lot. It was kind of just on a whim that I discovered you. I know my friend Kelly suggested when I was asking for book club picks like years ago.
00:23:54
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um three years ago maybe, I don't know, ah quite a long time ago. And she she was like, oh, it tastes like candy. I hadn't heard of it, but I looked up the cover and I was like, oh my God, yes, this has to be one of the choices.
00:24:06
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And it won the poll and like literally 99.9% of everyone who read it was, which was quite a few people at the time, loved it. And I loved it. And right then I was like, this is my favorite slasher book ever. And I've read quite a few since then. It's still,
00:24:21
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The only one that comes close is your other book, Mother Deer. I really liked that one too, a lot. Just, it was definitely different. Like there's different dynamics, but such a quirky family, like going back to your description of the characters, Mother Deer's characters are so zany.
00:24:37
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kind of love it because your humor, it's in Tastes Like Candy, but it's really just finessed so perfectly in Mother Deer. It's so perfect, that one. It is. So like, that's like so close to being my second though. That one, I believe i messaged Jessica after I read that one and I said, it reminded me of the TV show Arrested Development, but with people killing people in it.
00:25:02
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Like that was the combination of that book and it was a great time. So that one, that one for a for anyone who hasn't read it, which I always assume people haven't.
00:25:13
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I assume my read my editor hasn't read some of my stuff and

Exploring Slasher Elements and Marketing Challenges

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that's just wild. But anyway, um, It's basically father of the bride, but the it's the mother we're following instead. There we go.
00:25:27
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And ah instead of getting arrested for hot dog buns, it's she's just snapping and killing people instead. And it's told from the perspective of the youngest daughter, there's three daughters and she's nuts and just likes killing people for fun.
00:25:43
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um Kind of like a really weird teenage Patrick Bateman female like yeah. she's like But she's lovable. She's likable.
00:25:56
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Dexter Morgan's brother kind of situation. I did not hear that. I'm so sorry. I was saying like a Dexter Morgan like his brother. He like I don't ever watch the show Dexter. There was like he he wasn't raised properly so he was just killing people for fun and you know the rest you have to watch the show but think of that instantly. Sorry.
00:26:14
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I love Dexter. I get what you're I get what you're saying. I love that show. Uh, long since I've seen it. like the idea. I haven't read the book, uh, but what you have been talking about, i kind of now want to look up your books to be perfectly honest. Cause I love slasher movies and I don't really read, I read slasher books.
00:26:29
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That's an obvious thought. It never really popped in my head till this conversation. So I'm definitely going to be looking you up to be perfectly honest. Perfect. Thank you. There's been a big wave within the past couple of years. Um, my book tastes like candy originally came out in 2020. And at that point there was not a lot out there.
00:26:45
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um There was like stuff on the extreme side, but I personally just good for people that want to read it. ah Not for me. um So I wanted something that was a little bit more like,
00:26:57
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scream but i also am super into movies like jawbreaker heathers so my goal was to sort of write slashers with the feel of those kind of those kind of movies and then it's in a book so you can take it anywhere and if you can't handle slasher movies you can read it i've had a a lot of people say that to me which is wild people that don't like slasher movies liking my work is bizarre to me
00:27:23
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So I was going to ask, how would you sell it to those of us here on this panel who might not have read the books but love slashers ah going into that? Like, i love your books because I've read a couple of those other slashers that are out there.
00:27:39
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Reading your books gives me the same feeling as watching the movies that I love. It's that level of fun that I get watching Scream. It gets dark and it's intense, but it's also characters I care about, situations I care about.
00:27:57
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dark humor that has me laughing out loud very often. My problem with a lot, because I've read, i don't really read slashers anymore because they really upset me. and I'm just like, why did, why, why, why?
00:28:09
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And then I get really mad at the marketing because everything is being marketed as as a scream, as a book, and they're just not. And you don't have to lie.
00:28:20
Speaker
You could market it a different way because I've read a couple of books that were promised to be slashers that weren't, that were fine, but I was mad because I was promised a slasher. um But there's a lot of that going along going on around there. And I think a lot of people who aren't Slasher books can't exist without slasher movies, I don't think.
00:28:39
Speaker
Does that make sense? yeah if it's yeah if it's not If it doesn't have the influence of slasher films, it's just a murder mystery, which is fine. It's just a regular thriller. When you start incorporating weird kills, with you know you're picturing it in your head,
00:28:55
Speaker
1980s movie style. When you start adding those sort of things in, you have somebody stalking somebody. You have, you know, when we're talking about comparing things to Scream, you have, everybody's a little bit aware. I try really hard not to throw in random just movie ah references to like, i don't I don't have any characters going, this is exactly like what happened in Urban Legend. like I can't do that and I hate when I read it.
00:29:23
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But I'm not afraid to use ah reference to slumber party massacre in a really oblique way that maybe be somebody might understand. Or I use the phrase peachy keen in the new taste like candy. And I'm assuming people think drawbreaker when they hear that.
00:29:38
Speaker
I hope they do. Yeah.
00:29:42
Speaker
Yeah, like metahumor, it can land sometimes and sometimes it can. I mean, Scream kind of mastered that formula, so I see why people love to rip it off to this day. But I could totally see what you mean in a book that might not translate as well.
00:29:54
Speaker
it doesn't It doesn't. It does not. And there was, I'm not going to say what the book was, but there was a book that was, if it it if they hadn't done that, it probably would have been one of my favorite slasher novels I'd ever read, but they added too much in there.
00:30:07
Speaker
at this point, it's kind of like when writers make main characters writers. Right. horrorrified king making care of your Horror fans horror fans. You gotta go somewhere else. You gotta, you gotta do something else.
00:30:21
Speaker
So I've just been trying to pretend like none of these characters have ever seen a horror movie. So if I sneak stuff in, in the writing, it's there, but it's not somebody directly referencing a kill in Friday the 13th six. Like it's not that. Right. You're not beating them over the head with, and I like that.
00:30:39
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Yeah.
00:30:42
Speaker
I have a question. What are your favorite slashers? If you had to pick your top three. And now that we're in the summer, what are your favorite summer camp slashers? My favorite summer camp slasher of all time is Sleepaway Camp 2.
00:30:56
Speaker
um i love love that yeah I love all of those bad sequels to mo like the prom night movies. I love those things. my my My number one favorite slasher movie of all time is my number one favorite movie of all time. And that's Nightmare on Elm Street 3 Dream Warriors.
00:31:10
Speaker
my My absolute favorite. Fantastic. And it's the original. It's not. I love the original. It's a perfect film, but it's not Dream Warriors. um But ah Slumber Party Massacre is, is Slumber Party Massacre weirdly is the one that I always come back to whenever I'm writing.
00:31:26
Speaker
And the way, because if you watch those movies, those there's just the girls kind of interacting in fun ways. And um that's kind of how I want things to play out inside my head and then get on the page that way. um But yeah, I like trashy slash your sequels more than anything. Oh, absolutely. I do like Slumber Party Massacre too.
00:31:48
Speaker
That's my absolute. I like slumber party massacre too, so much. It's mentioned in my bio. That's fantastic. Yes. And I love that sleep away camp too. It's Bruce Springsteen's sister.
00:31:59
Speaker
Uh huh. We don't talk about that enough. Um, and my favorite scene is when the girl says, are you looking for a gun? And she says, yes, but this will do. And she pulls out a drill. fantastic No, a drill in a really like,
00:32:14
Speaker
cheerful voice because the killer in that movie is cheerful as hell and she's just she's fantastic it's not a good movie by any means but it's definitely a fun movie and i think that's that's one of my goals is i don't think a lot of i don't think a lot of writers are trying to entertain people I think a lot of writers may want to make, I think it was Sean, it was Adam Green that said, ah why do we want to make the people watching them our movies feel bad?
00:32:42
Speaker
like i i don't want to torture people, even if I'm writing about really, really violent, dark stuff. So I try to balance it out with humor and just sort of weirdness and just sort of elevate it. It's still like, once again, it's intense, um but it's also fun. i don't know.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, agreed. All right. Does anybody have a final question? One last one before we head into the next segment?

Adaptation Possibilities and Community Support

00:33:10
Speaker
I actually did have a thought. Again, I did say haven't read your books, but since you guys are talking about how they're very much like actual horror movies, have you ever had the idea to maybe you write one of these as a screenplay? Has that ever happened?
00:33:22
Speaker
I never have. I've never thought about writing a screenplay. I have thought about writing a graphic novel. Oh, OK. I'll take the graphic novel. That sounds fun. Yeah, I think that would be really, really, really fun. But um I'm not usually a huge fan of books based on movies.
00:33:37
Speaker
If that makes like, I like, i like no, sorry. Movies based on based on but i know i like like a followo on movies. I like stuff like that. I love novelizations. I love this was heavily inspired by, you know, something else. Love that.
00:33:53
Speaker
Not a big fan of film adaptations. So. I get that one. I could sit here and and name many we've covered over on movie dumpster. Some are good, but most it's like Salem's lot. They can't figure that one out. I'm still waiting. Nope.
00:34:07
Speaker
Nope. ah you You usually have a There's another podcast you do those episodes with. What is that one? Oh, yeah. Just like a side thing of our movie dumpster. We call Book to the Movie. kind of Yeah. Riffing on Back to the Future, actually.
00:34:21
Speaker
And we have a buddy who does a YouTube channel where he kind of does called Taking the Page. He does ah kind of that's his whole channel comparing the novelizations to the movies. And we'll bring them on occasionally. We we covered like a Batman Forever has a novelization. The Super Mario Brothers movie has a novelization. So we kind of lead a little bit more to what you're talking about.
00:34:40
Speaker
But yeah, it is kind of weird when you get that like Jurassic Park's like an anomaly, even though it's so different than the book. It's like they it very rarely works out. So I guess you kind of have the right idea by not even bothering to write the screenplay.
00:34:55
Speaker
All right. Misery. Misery was a good book to film. That's true. Yeah. It's great movie. It's fantastic. Planning and doing King tends to be good. Planning being a key word there.
00:35:06
Speaker
Yes. A short King novel. That kind of sounded like I thought it that Mike Flanagan directed Misery. That was a... He also does good adaptations of Stephen King books. And we're getting Carrie currently in production. Mm-hmm.
00:35:21
Speaker
from Flanagan. Don't know if you need more Carrie, but if it's I know I'll watch it. I will. I'll watch anything Flanagan does. I read a rumor that they're treating it like as though Carrie's situation were like a school shooting and she were the shooter.
00:35:38
Speaker
That could be interesting if that is true. Interesting thing. I don't know if that is real or not. It sounds cool, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:49
Speaker
All right, so ah but I want to wrap it up with a fun one. i Well, you know what? Yeah.
00:36:00
Speaker
OK, if one of your characters had to survive a classic slasher villain, who is that villain most likely to be?
00:36:11
Speaker
Who is the villain in a clear slasher? Oh, which which classic slasher would your main character most likely survive?
00:36:21
Speaker
Okay, I think the most one that would likely, i think Jenny from Mallrats could take down Jason.
00:36:31
Speaker
I think she could. And no one can prove it otherwise. It's fiction, both of them. So it doesn't. I'm with you. Yeah. She seems like the one that would be like, No, I just got to take care of this.
00:36:43
Speaker
I can't have this walking around hunting me down. And she would just kick his ass. I think with assistance, I think you would need help. But I've always wanted to add a Jason like character to the universe. And I'm going to eventually and tastes like candy three.
00:36:57
Speaker
But oh, yeah. and Nice little tease there. for my friday the 13th love and heart okay
00:37:08
Speaker
all right well jessica thank you so much for answering our questions and giving us some insight into what's in the work with you uh like sean mentioned he wants to look up your work where can people find the jessica lacy version of tastes like candy Anywhere you can pre-order books. It comes out September the 9th.
00:37:29
Speaker
So right now we're doing pre-orders. It's on Amazon, it's at Barnes and Noble. um If you, I don't know when you can, I don't know how early you can do this, but you can request it at your library as well. Nobody's ever been able to get my books in libraries before, now they can.
00:37:45
Speaker
um So yeah, it's a pre-order, go wherever. if you're interested, thank you. And thank you for having me and talking to me a million times. Oh, no, I'm so glad you were here. I've been looking forward to this for a long time.
00:38:03
Speaker
I'm glad we could finally get it out. Get it out there to the public. I can't wait for more people to discover your books. It's all that's the most exciting part is is that more people are going to get to read them that wouldn't have even known they existed. Because like I said, I never marketed them. I never advertised them.
00:38:19
Speaker
And now we're going to see what happens if we tell people about the ah Yeah, I'll just word of mouth, which is incredible to me. That's the power bookstagram and positive reviews.
00:38:33
Speaker
Honestly, I i know, i like I thank every single person that's ever shared it or recommended it or you know liked it, reviewed it. Like that's the reason why it became popular enough to get picked up and why we're looking at seven books with source books.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:51
Speaker
Awesome. Well, thank you.

Film Recommendations and Discussions

00:38:54
Speaker
Let's we're gonna go into well, we're talking about fun kills. We have in our cutting room where he texted me he's running a little late. He's he's gonna be here.
00:39:07
Speaker
But currently we have one member of the cutting room with us. So Sean from the horror vision. Are you ready to talk about the movie you brought for us tonight? Oh, yeah.
00:39:18
Speaker
awesome so sean kick us off you can tell us a little bit about what you do your show all of that and do what you do best so i'm one of the hosts of the horror vision and we're i guess we're trying to cover like all horror including adjacent and you know at one point i even added a show that was like this that's not fucking horror because i was like i want to cover something that's not horror and i know people are going to be like that or so i'm like just call the call it that But we try to cover it all. Jessica comes on a lot. We do a show called Slasher Party.
00:39:53
Speaker
We work through my co-host, Missy, and I. She's one of the co-hosts. We work through all the Friday of the 13th. And then Jessica joined us for The Hatchets recently, which, Jessica, I just finished editing three and four today. So that'll go up next week.
00:40:07
Speaker
Those are fun movies. If you have not seen Victor Crowley, those are awesome movies. Those are fantastic movies. And keep your eye out for those episodes from the Horror Vision next week, right? and And actually, Jessica picked the next ones we're covering, which I had forgotten until I edited today, edited the prom night, because I didn't know. said, going to cover prom night one through four. I'm like, three and four? I had no idea. there ah I mean, a third I maybe would have assumed with four. I had no idea.
00:40:34
Speaker
And three is last one. Four is available on streaming places. It's weird. I found like a DVD two pack. I haven't ordered it yet. I don't know if it's available, but I was just image searching and I saw that. I was like, oh, how convenient if that's available.
00:40:48
Speaker
So, um but yeah, we just try to cover everything. So I'm also an author and i I just love the genre and I love community. You know, that's like, to me, that's why I really like what you're doing here because it's so good to talk to people that like this stuff, you know,
00:41:06
Speaker
and the internet has been fabulous. I just think back to being, you know, a kid and I had nobody to talk to, you know, very few friends to talk to about some of the stuff that I was into. So, you know, I feel like we're living in a golden age, but,
00:41:21
Speaker
I really wanted to talk about this movie that came out this, it was, I guess it was in theaters two months ago. It did not play by me. And i mean, you might say, well, Clarksville, Tennessee, that's not really surprised.
00:41:33
Speaker
However, we get a lot of movies. I'm shocked. Our regal gets a lot of stuff. So I was actually shocked. We didn't get it. And this is Joshua Erkman's debut. It's called a desert.
00:41:47
Speaker
It's right now. It's a prime rental. I think it's either 599 or 699.
00:41:52
Speaker
This is close to being in my favorite movie the year. I've watched it three times so far. And it's... ah
00:42:00
Speaker
it it remind I'm a big David Lynch fan. I'm not going to say it's Lynchian, but they don't give you everything. There's a lot of suggestion and just... It's a beautifully shot film um written by Bossy Baker and Joshua Erickman.
00:42:18
Speaker
And... cinematographer is Jay Keitel. I'm not sure if that's Harvey Keitel's family or not. um But it's basically it starts with a guy that's on the road. He's a photographer. He had one book like I guess a decade before of photographs of kind of ruined buildings.
00:42:36
Speaker
And ah put him on the map and he struggled since then. And so Kay Lennox plays this gentleman, Alex Clark. He's no GPS, no cell phone, driving through the American Southwest.
00:42:48
Speaker
and just finding abandoned places to take photos of. And I'm not a photographer, so I don't know what kind of camera, what it's called, but it's one of those big cameras where you actually have to like cover your, you know, there's like a hood um for the person using it.
00:43:02
Speaker
And he goes into just ruined buildings and and weird landscapes, takes photos, and he runs across a gentleman played by Zachary Ray Sherman and his sister. And a lot of weirdness ensues.
00:43:17
Speaker
There's direct input, like there's direct insinuation that this Zachary Ray Sherman's character, Rennie is something more than human.
00:43:29
Speaker
then then and this is the thing that like takes us from a four-star to a five-star movie second half of the movie the lead character is david yow the front man from the jesus blizzard and i'm originally from chicago and the jesus blizzard is the best live band of all time and he's been in movies for years you know he's in like under the silver lake he's in i do not feel at home in this world anymore so many movies in small roles and i always wondered like somebody give this guy ah something more meaty and he just knocks out of the park and he gets involved
00:44:01
Speaker
And it's, I don't know, it's beautiful. It's a lot about the ruin of this country and kind of nature aggressively taking things back from humanity.
00:44:16
Speaker
But nothing's overt. That's what I love. And it just takes its time. It'll drive some people crazy for sure. Like if you can't sit through Lost Highway, I'm not saying this is exactly that pace, but don't and don't even bother. i don't I don't think this will work for you.
00:44:31
Speaker
uh but yeah i just i so strongly recommend it every time i watch it i've seen i've not only caught something new visually or sonically but the other night i was watching and i just had all these epiphanies about like all this nuance and these kind of metaphors and all this stuff underneath what you know is on the surface of the film and you don't always get that you know so it's it's just a fantastic movie
00:45:04
Speaker
I pulled up the IMDB and was scrolling it while you were talking. I'm definitely interested. Sarah Lind is in it. She was in, oh man, a year or two ago, she was in A Wounded Fawn, which is one of my favorite movies. yeah, that was great.
00:45:25
Speaker
I loved that movie. And you know, there's a similar there's a similar thing where that movie has some really odd moments in it right where you're like oh absolutely the final act is like crazy yeah it's completely and insane and and you get you're wondering like is this okay so i'm seeing this are the characters seeing this are all the characters seeing this this is kind of similar in a way okay yeah because that one starts out kind of like a survivalist in a way right that shows the date at the guy's house and then
00:45:59
Speaker
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Things get very strange from what I recall. Great film. Very strange. Yeah, that's right. I was thinking at the beginning with the, well, there's that like almost prelude where it's the painting auction.
00:46:11
Speaker
Yes. and And then it leads, so that sets things up, and then it leads you into that Sarah Lynn going on the date with the guy. And the masks. There's like these crazy masks that will haunt your nightmares.
00:46:23
Speaker
That like, there's just that moment where they kind of pan the camera over, and in the room adjacent to where they are in the open doorway, you see that like owl mask thing and the cloak, and the way the music cue comes in. It's very, very giallo in a way. Oh.
00:46:39
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I need to rewatch. Sorry, I jumped in there. No, no, please, please.
00:46:48
Speaker
I got to check out desert. I haven't heard about it. That's awesome.
00:46:56
Speaker
I screwed description. No, I hadn't heard of it either. My Internet's being wonky. So if I interrupt somebody, I'm sorry. Sorry about
00:47:06
Speaker
Never fails, right? The connection issue. Okay.
00:47:13
Speaker
So Sean, anything else you want to throw out there? Any, where, where is it best for people to find you and the horror vision and what you do? Uh, really we're on all podcast streaming platforms and i put a lot of work into the YouTube shows. i try to add visuals, uh, as well. Cause I really like editing and yeah, I just kind of go all out with that. So really YouTube or, or you know, Spotify, Apple podcasts, um,
00:47:42
Speaker
We're on Instagram, but I'm just, I'm awful with social media. So. but Yeah, you should post, you should post something about the episodes that I do so I can repost them.
00:47:53
Speaker
Well, I know Missy posts most of the stuff. um It can't be shared because you're a comic private. Oh, I didn't realize it. Okay. So I get in the habit of posting stuff and then I fall out of it. It's like usually the state of the world. I just get, I'm like, oh God. And I just, I just ignore social media for a while. So.
00:48:13
Speaker
I get that.
00:48:16
Speaker
I get that. Awesome. Well, thank you, Sean. Anything else you want to throw out there before we go to the next? No.
00:48:27
Speaker
All right. Awesome. was great to have you. And we're going, since we're still waiting on David from Journey with a Cinephile to show up, we're going to jump.
00:48:38
Speaker
That means the next, the Curio cabinet. So Aaron, this is your spot. You ready? Awesome. I'm so ready. So like last time, if you were here- It's all you, man. Excellent. Here we go. So like last time, I went through some independent films that I've watched recently.
00:48:55
Speaker
i had most of the physical copies last time, but these are newer films that I've watched in the last month, mostly independent films. It's nice to give a shout out to them. um And I'm going to run through them pretty quickly. i have eight films I'm going to suggest.
00:49:08
Speaker
If anyone has seen them, I'd love for you to jump in. um The first one is called Bark by Mark Schulerman, and it is about a man who wakes up tied to a tree in the forest, and he has no idea how he got there.
00:49:24
Speaker
So imagine that it's like one of those films you can immediately put yourself into the shoes of this main character. I'm getting chills thinking about it. And then it goes in a direction that I didn't expect.
00:49:35
Speaker
And I've got to say, if if anyone has seen it, I've got to say the ending was a complete surprise and it stayed with me for days. Has anyone seen Bark?
00:49:47
Speaker
Excellent. Okay. Well, check out Bark. This one is available on Prime. rented it on Prime so you can check it out there.
00:49:57
Speaker
To be honest, based on the title, I get Bark and Good Boy mixed up just because Bark is what a dog does. And Good Boy is ah not a dog. So just not knowing that much about either of them, I often got them mixed i But good to know the distinction now.
00:50:14
Speaker
it's It's so good. There's a little bit of a play on words. I don't want to give anything away, but imagine if you had to consume bark, let's say, to stay alive. Just think about that. um Let's see. So the next one, actually, I should have mentioned, I'm from A&B Horror Movies.
00:50:30
Speaker
You can check out my channel on YouTube. I do a lot of interviews. Recently, I've had Lloyd Kaufman on from Troma. um I talked to Rhonda Shearer. If you remember Rhonda Shearer from the 90s, USA Up All Night with...
00:50:44
Speaker
Gilbert Gottfried, which was fantastic to chat with her. i just chatted with Lynn Lowry yesterday, so stay tuned for that. She was in Shivers, Cronenberg Shivers. And oh my God, I'm drawing a blank.
00:50:59
Speaker
I'll come back to it. um Oh, Roman Romero's The Crazies from the 70s. She was in some fantastic 70s films. So it was absolutely amazing to chat with her. And I also talk with a lot of independent directors. So some of the folks on this list I've either spoken to, um so stay tuned for those interviews, or they're coming up.
00:51:18
Speaker
So often what I do is I'll watch these independent films. And if I really like them, I'll reach out to the directors and and set up a set up an interview. So that's what I'm doing. And I've started having guest co-hosts on to help me interview. So if anyone here is interested, Tim just joined recently.
00:51:34
Speaker
We interviewed Jennifer Reeder who directed Perpetrator. yeah um And GC, think you're still on You are joining in a couple of weeks to interview. Actually, I'm going to get to it. I'll come back to that um because it's on my list.
00:51:47
Speaker
All right. So back to my list. Actually, one more thing. You can also find me on Instagram, abhorrormovies. and aaron's movies 8587 i'm on there a lot more than i should be okay senator i am but i don't really go on letterboxd all that much i know i should i should um okay let's see if then the you don't follow aaron aaron is so prolific it's amazing i tell him that all the time he has so many interviews dropping with so many interesting people you definitely gotta go check him out
00:52:21
Speaker
ah You're too kind. i second that. It's been amazing. i mean, i haven't I never would imagined I'd get to talk to some of the people that I have talked to. It's been a humbling experience. And the next movie I want to talk about is one that I just watched, I guess, last week.
00:52:37
Speaker
And it's probably one of my favorite ones that I've seen in a while. And it is called Nightfall, A Paranormal Investigation. It's about two paranormal investigators in the 80s who get into a case that's way over their heads.
00:52:53
Speaker
And it's terrifying. It was one of those films. I watched it by myself in my basement with the lights out, and I kept looking over my shoulder, especially in the final act. It is so damn scary.
00:53:04
Speaker
Again, Nightfall, of paranormal investigation. I don't think this one is streaming yet. um It's directed by two guys out of Australia, Miles McEwen and Ripley Stevens.
00:53:15
Speaker
um Like I said, it's not streaming, but keep your eyes open for this one. um Next, I've got Abduct by Chris Riggie. um This one is on Fossum and Prime Video.
00:53:25
Speaker
It's more of a sci-fi horror comedy psychological thriller. um It's about an hour long. It's fairly short, but I loved it. um It's basically about a group of friends that go away on a weekend getaway and the woman's boyfriend is abducted and returns.
00:53:45
Speaker
in another man's body. So think about that for a moment. um And the ending is really cool. I didn't expect the ending of this one. So that's abduct. Has anyone seen abduct? I know this one is streaming at the moment. It's on Fossum and Prime Video.
00:54:00
Speaker
I started watching it because I thought that was zoe Leah Thompson's daughter. I can't think of her name. I thought it was a completely different actress in the poster and I was mad that it wasn't. Oh, it's not her.
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, if you look, what is her name? Zoe Deutsch. Zoe Deutsch. Yes. No, it's not her, but it does look like her. It looks exactly like her to the point where I feel like they did that on purpose.
00:54:26
Speaker
But if you say it's worth finishing, I'll finish it because it is short. It's short and there's a twist that I didn't see coming. It takes a turn. In fact, i I did sit down with the writer and director and it was very difficult to do the interview because we didn't want to give any spoilers. It's like, well, how do we talk about this twist?
00:54:43
Speaker
So I would check out Abduct. um Another one that I watched recently that I loved is called Marshmallow. This is streaming on Prime. I suspect some folks here have seen this one already. There's a lot of buzz around it. It's a really smart summer camp slasher um with an unexpected ending, and I really enjoyed it.
00:55:03
Speaker
That is directed by Daniel Del Purgatorio. And like I said, you can watch it on Prime.
00:55:10
Speaker
Okay, three more. ah The next one is called- I'm a sucker summer camp slasher. It's good. I think you'll like it. Add it to your list. Next up, I've got a movie called Catch Up on Waffles. on my list.
00:55:21
Speaker
Okay, perfect. Catch Up on Waffles. This is by John Deeson. um I don't think it's streaming yet, but it's a fantastic film. It's basically about a group of friends who go into a diner and decide they're going to start killing everyone inside.
00:55:36
Speaker
So let that sink in. It's very trauma-esque in a lot of ways, but it's also a lot of fun, um like trauma films are. um I think that movie is going to get a lot of attention. It's not streaming yet, um but check out Ketchup on Waffles.
00:55:50
Speaker
um Two more, three more. um For sale by Exorcist, and this is by Melissa and Chris LaMartina. So if you like the WNUF films, um the Out There Halloween tape movie, What Happens Next Will Scare You, this is the new film from them.
00:56:06
Speaker
Melissa LaMartina directs, and Chris LaMartina wrote the script, and it's hysterical. It's more... comedy than horror but it's basically about a real estate agent who flips houses after she exercises the demons that live inside it's quite funny and she decides she's going to find try to find her forever home and then things don't go as planned so check out for sale by exorcist it's on 2b plex and fossil um i highly recommend that one yeah that one's a lot of fun
00:56:40
Speaker
Yes. I don't know who said that, but oh, it's so funny. Yeah. yeah that I caught it first of all, yeah. Oh, you did? Oh, cool. Yeah. It was fun. I chatted with Chris and Melissa recently.
00:56:50
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um I haven't posted that video yet, but yeah, it was a lot of fun. um Next, I have Sugarcane, and this is one I just watched this week. It's on Flex, Tubian Prime. um It's directed by Pat Baker and Daryl Postley Jr., and it's basically about a serial killer who kidnaps women and then and on the dark web lets people bid on how he would like ah they would like him to torture and kill them.
00:57:18
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So I'll let that sit in for a moment. Very dark, but it's really well done. The pacing is good. I liked it. So Sugarcane. And then lastly, and this is the one that GC and i were going to interview the director next week.
00:57:31
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And I do have a physical copy. It's called Potter Noster and the Mission of Light. Kind of a horror comedy. It's about a cult that disappear cult from the 70s and they disappeared until now. And they invite a group of youths to come visit their cult and things don't go as planned.
00:57:49
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There's some catchy songs in it. It's quite a trip. um And it's like it's what independent films should be. I love this one. I think Amazon has two more copies of it if you want to get Blu-ray, at least as of this morning.
00:58:04
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um And that's it. You can rent this one on Prime or you can get a physical copy. And those are the eight movies I wanted to recommend this month. but Actually, let me just read them through quickly. So Bark... you always Okay. I was just reading through bark, for nice nightfall, a paranormal investigation duct marshmallow, ketchup on waffles for sale by exorcist, sugar cane and Potter Noster and the mission of light.
00:58:33
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Those are my eight recommendations this time around. So if you added a movie to your watch list after watching Aaron talk about his list of eight movies, that is exactly why I have invited Aaron every time because his social media is filled with him recommending movies like this.
00:58:52
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And I'm always like, man, I need to have time to watch this one because they all he makes them all sound so good. And Aaron, thank you so much. I try. Yes. If anyone saw Lucky Lou, because that was my top recommendation last time, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Looky Lou.
00:59:07
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Oh, Evan's raising his hand. I tried to convince my wife. I did. I don't know if watched it. Yeah, liked it. Yeah, it's good. I haven't seen it on my show. Go ahead, Lee.
00:59:21
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So.
00:59:26
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Oh, we lost them. I think someone said they had them because I had the director and writer. um I interviewed them too a couple weeks ago. I think someone was saying that. but I'm not sure who it was. I have it on my shelf actually.
00:59:39
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Oh, on your shelf. Okay. Yeah. We, uh, one of the other guys on our show ah really, really liked it. So we did an episode where he was trying to convince me it wasn't going to cross my lines or if it did, that it was worth it. And so we put the episode up and then actually, I think it was the writer reached out to us on Instagram. So we wanted to have them on.
00:59:58
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I just rewatched straight, yeah straight edge Kager, the other, um, is it Is it Jason Zink is the director? It is Jason Zink, yes. Yeah, so I rewatched Straight Edge Kager, which is fantastic. And then I'm going to do Looky Lou probably maybe tonight. But yeah, I don't really want my girlfriend to watch that one until I get along through with it. i I would watch it by yourself. It's yeah very creepy, unnerving.
01:00:21
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And it's a trilogy, so they I think they're almost done with part two. Oh, wow. And they're going to film a third one. So check it out. Maniac vibes. I loved it. Anyway, Tim, I'll stop talking.
01:00:31
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Did I go over 10 minutes? No, you you're you're right at 10 minutes. i'm all here. I'm here for the conversation. That's what that's what I want. So I love it. But Kelsey, are you ready to go next?
01:00:45
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um All right. So next up. Okay. This is all you. You have your, your. platform now. It's all you.

Exploration of Slasher Books and Graphic Novels

01:00:55
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Go. Great. ah I am going to be talking about slasher books because to me, when you're talking about books, summertime screams a couple of things.
01:01:04
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Slasher books, slasher movies as well. And also you got great coming of age books that just give me summer vibes. and also Animal Attack books. But we're talking slashers today because I just think that is just peak summertime. And I'm also going to be talking about a few Giallo-adjacent books that I have read and do recommend because now summertime,
01:01:28
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is going to remind me of Giallo movies because i am a co-host for the second year of an event called Giallo July. This is the brainchild of my friend and co-host Alex the Bookibus. You can find her on YouTube, on Instagram, the Bookibus.
01:01:43
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And she came up with Four Prom Stall based on Giallo movies. And the idea is to obviously watch Giallo movies, but also to read books that are like crime, mystery, thriller. I said, that's all good and fine because Giallo, when it comes to how it relates to books, does relate more to mystery crime, you know, pulp books. But when i think Giallo movies, I think of slashers. So I said, I'm going to read slashers. I'm just making it fit together. So that's why I'm combining slasher books today and Giallo adjacent books.
01:02:18
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All right. So we got a few to get through. going try. It's perfect. to not take too long, but of course we have to start off with
01:02:28
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the author formerly known as Ivy Tholen, AKA Jessica. i think any of her books are great slasher books to start with. Like i said, very few authors can make a book feel like a movie.
01:02:40
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It's a very honed skill. And I feel like more movie lovers, specifically more horror movie lovers, would be book lovers if they read more books like this.
01:02:50
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Because I think what is missing is that feel of, oh, this feels fast-paced. You know, maybe people No shade to King, but maybe people who like movies just try King and they're like, this is kind of long winded. Like, this is a little too much.
01:03:03
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Like, I think this is a perfect kind of in between fun thing that anybody who likes a fun movie slasher could really get into. Like I said, my two favorites taste like candy and mother deer, but look out for those re-releases that Jessica talked about.
01:03:18
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All right, and after that, since we talked a little bit about summer camp and summer camp slashers, I do have a few summer camp themed books here. The first one, which is probably my second favorite slasher book, is ah Under the Blade by Matt Serafini. This one's really, really underrated. It definitely has Friday the 13th vibes.
01:03:37
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It's about a woman who survives a massacre at a camp she was a counselor at, but many years later, she decides to go back and write a book about her experience. And yeah, that might seem like a bad idea. You're right, it is a bad idea.
01:03:50
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But it sounds typical slasher fodder. There's more that happens and develops at the end. Really, really like this book. Underrated as hell. No one talks about it. Worth picking up. Very unique slasher.
01:04:03
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Then we have slashers that are comedic and fun. Think heavyweights, like, you know, Disney heavyweights, but in book form and with some slashing involved. We got Fat Camp. Excellent movie. Yes, exactly.
01:04:16
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A deli meat? Anyway, he like finds a deli meat in the kid's cabin. ah Fat Camp by James Sabata. There is a lot of juvenile humor. Like I said, the fart jokes are there, just like Disney's heavyweights.
01:04:29
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However, There's a lot of heart in this and there's great kills in it too. So don't be put off by the name. um You might think, oh, is there like fat shaming and stuff? It's actually really, really powerful and well thought out. And the place the author is coming from is not like a negative mean place, like criticizing people's looks.
01:04:50
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This is a great book. it's got It's got a lot to it. And I never hear anyone talk about it, but shout out to my friend Cameron Chaney, who's a fellow author, horror author. he told me with book. If you're looking for something with heart. that Autumn Crow?
01:05:06
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Yes, Autumn Crow, yes. um And that, if you want Halloween vibes during the summer, it's not a slasher per se, but it is a collection of great stories, all kinds of stories, super hardcore Halloween feels.
01:05:17
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ah And also, he has ah first book in a series called Autumn Crow High Fresh Hell, which definitely has really great horror movie vibes as well. He's someone who can write like you're reading a horror movie too, Cameron Chaney.
01:05:30
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But yeah, he has great recommendations too. So some of these books I found out from him, other ones I just discovered on my own. But one that reminds me a little bit of Tastes Like Candy in that it's got a lot of character development. You're not just getting into the slashing is Slash by Hunter Shea.
01:05:46
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This guy is going through grief from losing his wife and he decides to go where she essentially lost her life. It was like investigating this area and, oh no, I'm sorry. This has been a few years since I read this. He goes back to the place where she survived like a big massacre, trying to look for clues about, you know, if the killer's still around. This one's really unique because it's got a lot of grief in it and a lot of development, but the slashing's really great too. So this one's unique and definitely worth checking out.
01:06:17
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um If you're looking for something that is very meta, I think that Curse of the Reaper by Brian McCauley is a good one. He also has Christmassy slasher series that he released about a year and a half ago. There's two books out now in the series, and those are great, but this one you could read any time of the year.
01:06:36
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We are following a an actor who is the star of a horror movie franchise, a slasher franchise, but he ends up getting replaced as the lead character and um he starts kind of almost acting like the slasher character.
01:06:53
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So what is going on Can you be trusted? What's going down? This one's really great. Yes, it is so good. It's it's also, um I just think really underrated. Not a lot of people talk about this one either.
01:07:04
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um If you're looking for more... Can I chime in here? Of course. i love Curse the Reaper. Curse of the Reaper.
01:07:15
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I don't know how you felt when reading it. The character was written to me like Jason, who he's portraying in the movies. yes Jason, but played played by Robert Englund.
01:07:26
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Yes. Yes. Like the actor himself reminded me more of Robert. And I'm reading that book going, this would be the best way to re to reboot. I hate reboots, remakes, all that.
01:07:40
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But that book uses the vessel to bring back Freddie. So good. That book is very clever. Excellent. Yes. Excellent book.
01:07:51
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Yeah, I love that book. I think a lot more people should be talking about It's just really, really unique. And I love all like the meta references. So I'm not someone who shies away from meta stuff. Yeah, it could get a little over the top sometimes with references.
01:08:04
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but sometimes I like it. It's a nice little fun, yeah nod you know, so that doesn't bother me, but more summer camp kind of themed books. And this is Adam Caesar. So I'm not gonna be talking about Clown in a Cornfield.
01:08:15
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You guys might know Adam Caesar. He's the author of the book that now it's been adapted into a film. I haven't seen the film yet, but I'm actually not a huge fan of Clown in a Cornfield. However, I've loved everything else I've ever read from Adam Caesar.
01:08:28
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And he actually has a lot of great books that read like movies a lot like Jessica does. So this one's a great one with some slasher vibes. The con season, it takes place at an abandoned, like closed down summer camp and they're hosting a um ah convention and they get like this old school horror movie actress to come and,
01:08:49
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they end up trying to recreate like an actual slashing kind of scenario at the camp as an experience kind of thing. And she has to contend with the people. And I know it's kind of counter ofintuitive counterintuitive because she's got a shotgun on the cover, but trust me, the vibes are there. Like the Friday the 13th-esque vibes are are kind of there.
01:09:09
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It's a little different, but um if you want a another meta book, but it's a short novella, this one is really, really fun. Another guy who writes really great, ah easy to absorb horror novels, Jeff Strand, always has comedy in his novels.
01:09:25
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This one's 20th anniversary screening, and I love it because it's kind of like a mockumentary style. like It's written like an internet article examining like a slasher franchise and how it was like a cursed franchise and They were bringing it back into theaters and like crazy stuff was happening. So this one's really, really great, really clever.
01:09:43
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um Jeff Strand, if you're looking for something that's not a slasher and you just want some fun, like laugh out loud humor, clowns versus spiders, probably the funniest book I've ever read. You like animal attack and clowns, one or the other, that one will do you fine.
01:10:01
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Count me in. I promise I'm almost done with the slasher books, but um If you're looking for an old school book, because I do collect paperbacks from hell, if you guys are familiar, Brady Hendricks coined that term. It's just a term for vintage horror books that are a little lesser known.
01:10:18
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Joyride, this one's rare. It's kind of hard to find. But if you ever come across it in the wild, especially for a cheap price, pick it up. This is Joyride by Stephen Cry, and you don't see a lot of slashers that are this old.
01:10:31
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Let me just confirm the publishing year, but first printing July 1983. So you see a lot of influx of slasher books now because the people who grew up watching the golden era of slasher movies are now adults writing these slasher books or odes yu to slasher movies exactly but back in the day you don't get a lot of that because you know people were living in it so not a lot of adult writers were seeing that in the theater and copying it but this one's really good uh it's nothing super special but it's just really well done you do get the pov of the killer and i don't know it's a it's a
01:11:08
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a well-written old school novel. And you can't say that ah about all paperbacks from hell, trust me. I've read a lot of them. Some of them are literal trash, but this is like good trash, if you will.
01:11:20
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Is it like the movie Joyride with Paul Lucker? Oh, no, no. Okay, there's no candy cane in that one? I think it's a little better than that movie. Oh, a little better. Okay. oh Just a little.
01:11:33
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All right. And um one last slasher book and then I'll move on to my giallos. Actually two. All right, so if you want a creature feature mixed with slashing vibes, we've got Children of the Dark by Jonathan Jans. And there is a sequel out to this ah that was just, I think, released on Amazon this last year, maybe.
01:11:52
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you know, a year and a half ago, maybe. But I've got to read the sequel. I enjoyed this one. I read it a couple of years ago. Definitely heavy summer vibes, you know, kids coming of age, going against big baddies and also monsties.
01:12:06
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So you got kind of a twofer there. And last but not least, if you want a great female main character, we've got Escape from Happydale. It is a trilogy of books, but this one's really fun. We've got a final girl who goes on to help other people survive like slasher attacks.
01:12:23
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So she goes around and like you know basically goes head to head with any kind of slasher she can find and saves other people. or in fact kind of creates other final girls because she saves them.
01:12:34
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So yeah, those are my slasher books. If you have any questions about any, let me know. i could try to answer them, but some of them it's been years since I've read, but I've enjoyed all of these. I endorse all of these and great slasher vibes. All very different though, for the most part.
01:12:53
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all right and now if you're in the mood for giallo vibes or Italian vibes in general, literally, just found out this existed. This is the New York Ripper 2 graphic novel. So it's like a sequel to the New York Ripper by Fulci, which is so f freaking sleazy, but kind of amazing.
01:13:11
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Yeah. and where Where's the duck mask? That's what I want to say to say. can't even, I don't think I can even show you because it's so sleazy on the inside. I just wanted to show you that it exists.
01:13:27
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That's so cool. Where is this from? Vinegar Syndrome? I can't remember. Ivan Press does those. They they were, for a while they were partnered with Vinegar Syndrome and then they just relaunch. Their stuff is really good. They have a lot of Fulci stuff and they have a a sequel to,
01:13:44
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um what do you call it? The Beyond. Oh yeah. It's not done yet. I love The Beyond. And I know you guys mentioned The Beyond on last week's episode or last month's episode. So yeah, I love The Beyond. So I would love to read a sequel to that.
01:14:00
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They're a great company. Yeah. Yeah. So- how Will they get out of the painting though? That's what have to find out. Read the book. Yeah, exactly.
01:14:11
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maybe So yeah, that's my first rec and I think this is the only one that I have not read. So just beware. i can't personally endorse it, but I know that it's sleazy. So just be aware when you go into it.
01:14:23
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All right. And then we've got a couple of literally giallo inspired books. You can tell by the yellow cover. So giallo in Italian means yellow. The reason why that became associated with books with yellow covers is because the publishing company Mondadori in Italy in the nineteen twenty s They started to republish American mystery crime novels in Italian with yellow covers.
01:14:48
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So hence why these two odes to Giallo, these are modern kind of odes to Giallo. Both of these have yellow color covers with, yes, black glove killers. So my first one will be David Sodegrin. I mentioned him early.
01:15:00
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earlier talking about how he writes like horror movie in a way and this one's super bleak i love this one i gave this one five stars not everyone i know gave this five stars some people were like it's too bleak i was like is there such a thing as too bleak we're going to bleakness bitch i guess yeah So next up, we've got Five Deaths of Seven Songbirds. Now, the kills aren't the greatest thing ever, but they are fun. So you've got a group of students who form a school band in college. They're studying abroad, and they're getting picked off one by one. The mystery, like in Giallo sometimes, it's not really like the most important part of it. It's all about vibes.
01:15:40
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When I read this, I listened to the soundtrack of Deep Red while I was reading this, and it was freaking amazing. It was the greatest experience ever. so i don't know, if you're kind of like in into maybe listening to a movie soundtrack while reading, that might be a good pairing for you because like on on its own, is it the greatest book ever? No.
01:15:59
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But if you're looking for Giallo vibes, put on that fricking deep red soundtrack, blast that goblin and read this bad boy. Great stuff. um And then- Goblin's always good.
01:16:10
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Oh my God, yes. I saw them perform like live here. it was amazing. It was incredible. um So my last things, and I swear I'm done, I know there's a lot of books you're like, shut up, I don't even read. But I don't even read, because it's fun, you know?
01:16:26
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And there's like a lot of stuff that I feel like if horror movie peeps would give books a chance, they would love them. Because I was someone who only thought I liked movies. I was like, I'm not a reader.
01:16:37
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But then I discovered there's more out there in horror the horror realm of books than Stephen King. Not totally bashing King. I like a lot of King's books, but they're not for every person, especially people who are not sure they're readers. So anyway, if you're looking for Italian vibes, that is not giallo. This is just like Italian horror vibes.
01:16:57
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Specifically, if you're looking for Lucio Fulci, Odes to him, the director. The Final Gate, short little novella, quick, fast-paced, definitely Italian horror vibes, and literally says it's an homage to Lucio Fulci.
01:17:12
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And another David Sodogren book, And By God's Hand You Shall Die. Out of all the Sodogren books, his books are getting more popular these days, but I feel like this one would... not appeal to the masses like a lot of his other books do because it's super sleazy, kind of like Italian horror in a great way. So yeah, this has a lot of religious elements, you know sexual elements, but creepy zombies as well. And it is also a literal ode to Lucile Fulci.
01:17:39
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And Adam Caesar also has an ode to Fulci and Italian horror. And he has his book, Tribesman, which is a literal homage, I believe, to Cannibal Holocaust.
01:17:52
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So think that, but in book four. Oh, wow. Oh, and I did forget. The last thing i want to mention, if you're looking for a horror movie tie-in, I recommend The Jason Strain because it is so over the top. You've got freaking a shark and Jason battle.
01:18:08
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You got these people sent to an island to be on a reality TV show, and the whole goal is to survive. Jason, but also like, you know, the elements on the island, but it's so ridiculous.
01:18:20
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Jason comes across this TV agent and he's like trying to compel Jason to not kill him. And he's like, Jason, baby, come on, I can make your money, baby. Now this book is hard to find. However, I got to shout out the wonderful YouTube channel, the Slash Tracks Network.
01:18:37
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He's also known as the 80s librarian, the 80s horror librarian. He makes audiobooks of really hard to find old school horror movie novelizations and horror movie tie-in books. So if you're looking for some rare things,
01:18:52
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especially like we're talking Friday the 13th novelizations, we're talking Halloween novelization. Those books go for a pretty penny if you look online, but he's got audio books of all of those books on his channel for free.
01:19:05
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Great channel. The Jason Strain, hilarious narration, can't recommend it enough. If you're looking for a cheese fest that is totally like horror movie vibes, but in book form, The Jason Strain.
01:19:16
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And that is my list. right Awesome. For what's his name? the The horror librarian? Is that what the alternative title? His alternative name? The 80s horror librarian. I'm sorry. 80s slasher librarian.
01:19:30
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I've listened to some of the Nightmare on Elm Street books on his channel. Yeah. He's got a lot of great stuff on there.
01:19:38
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My TBR just grew by like 15 books at least. I'm glad to hear it. Yes. Thank you so much. Sodergrin is interesting. I just discovered him. i follow him on Instagram. I think it's paperbacks and pugs.
01:19:54
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Yes, yes. He's got a pug and then like that's his publishing company. Yeah. He loves his pug. His name is Boris. He just had a birthday. Yeah. Yeah, he's great. And by the way, he is a horror movie fan, just like Jessica, just like Adam Caesar. So I think there is a reason why all of those three authors can write really like your, you know,
01:20:14
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absorbing a movie, but in book form. I think it's because, you know, all of them are horror movie fans. Now, he's got a great, great taste in giallo. However, I got to call David Sotogren We don't agree on letterboxed other movie ratings. He gave the Goonies two stars.
01:20:29
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He gave one of my favorite frickin' new crazy, like Shaw Brothers movies that I just discovered, The Boxer's Omen. He gave that two stars as well. And he was like, uh, whatever. was like, how could you give this movie two stars? And he was, I can't even believe that he gave it two stars. The Goonies, that, and he gave Midsommar one star. I'm like David Soderbrin. Anyway, that's my whole funny story of how he doesn't even know I'm out here.
01:20:57
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fashion is on Letterboxd. All my Patreon members know I do it. It's it's a running thing now. So David Sodergren, if you happen to ever see this, I love you as an author. I'm so sorry. I'm just joking about our differences in movie taste, but yeah.
01:21:11
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It's live. I can't edit it. I don't care. But also if you're looking for um a different kind of giallo, Shaw Brothers did, there's a great kind of giallo style Shaw Brothers movie called Corpse Mania. It's so good. I just watched it for the first time this year.
01:21:28
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And um I found out about it from my friend again, author Cameron Chaney, author of Autumn Crow. He was like, oh, this was really fun. it's about, but be warned, it's like this guy who's into necrophilia,
01:21:40
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and But it's definitely got Giallo artsy vibes and shit. It's wonderful. Awesome. Thank you so much, Kelsey. So much good stuff. Thank So much good stuff.
01:21:51
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We're going to jump back to the cutting room. David is with

Diverse Horror Film Anthologies

01:21:54
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us now. David, you had some ah special screeners you got access to, right? Yeah, that is correct. ah First, sorry that I was late. I can't, I guess, put stuff in my cal or my calendar properly. so that kind of explain what was going on there.
01:22:09
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um But yeah, I actually, one of the companies that usually sends me screeners, they had some movies that were at Rain Dance Film Festival. And when I tried to get the screeners they were talking about, they were like, oh, we got to see if you can get them through this. And I somehow got accredited for it. And they had a ton of horror films. So I ran through and I was going kind of give a little bit of information on some of these and then highlight three of them that I thought were especially quite interesting. Um,
01:22:33
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Since we had a heavyweights reference earlier, the first one I'm going bring up here is D for melody and American nightmare. This is kind of like a stream of consciousness inspired by American psycho. But the big thing here is that one of the co-stars is Sean Weiss is a character in this one where he is playing a sleazy agent that our killer is.
01:22:55
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trying to get his way back to but he feels like he needs to kill people to level up before he confronts this guy. So this one was my biggest issue with it is it's over two hours long, but because of just how well they edit some of the stuff and how surreal it goes, it was ah quite an interesting watch, actually.
01:23:13
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um One I wanted to at least give credit to was the movie called Hole. This one is actually the first film I've ever seen from Slovenia. This one, a little bit lighter on the horror elements, but it's two people are trying, they're con artists and their next mark, the girl of the group actually accidentally kills her, but it turns out she's not dead as they're digging a hole to bury her. She gets away. So they have to figure out where she is in the woods before they can leave.
01:23:40
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um Another one that was making its world premiere at this film festival was called Loner. This one is a guy who's kind of dealing with some personal issues and he ends up winning this cabin that's out in the middle of the woods. This one is very Blair Witch Project and inspired, like inspiredd where he's by himself, but he's kind of streaming all this stuff, like recording it to like show later.
01:24:05
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And he actually encounters this young woman who wants to be let into his cabin one night. And she he denies her that, but then he starts getting haunted by kind of what happens there. And there could actually be something supernatural in the woods around him.
01:24:21
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And then kind of we're talking a little bit about giallo. There is one that is definitely heavily inspired by that. And that is Sanara. It's Saturn Analia. I guess this is actually a real festival that happened in Italy at some point.
01:24:35
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But this one is definitely pretty much taking vibes of Suspiria where we have a young lady who goes to a boarding school and there could be a secret that's hidden within this one.
01:24:46
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And I have to give credit to the filmmaking team here because i actually went out and got Claudio Simonetti to do the score of this one, even though not his best work, but still kind of a fun thing when you're going to do a lot of, you know, Giallo inspired stuff there.
01:25:01
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But the three that I really wanted to kind of highlight was the first one is the invisible half. This one is from Japan and it's almost this director kind of paying homage to like the J horror stuff that came out in the two thousands where we have this young woman who is, she's half Japanese, half British, but she's living in Japan. So she's bullied for it.
01:25:24
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And she ends up going to a new school. And while she's there, there's this other girl who is bullied and something happens where some of these mean girls actually prank this girl and then she disappears. Well, it seems like there might have been an entity following her.
01:25:37
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And the only way you can see this entity is you have to have a smartphone with earbuds in because you can actually hear it coming towards you when that is in. So nobody can kind of see this. And we actually get some pretty cool scenes where very it follows type thing where somebody will get attacked and only our main character can see it but she's also not safe and anybody who's kind of around her as well so that one kind of really kind of surprised me and i actually think this made its world premiere there so that's one I'm not sure distribution on any of these offhand but that would be one that I would definitely kind of keep an eye out for if you are a J horror fan what was that one again uh the invisible half
01:26:17
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And then the next one is a anology film from Bangladesh. First film I've ever seen from this country as well. What was kind of interesting here is that this anthology has four stories. I think this one might be available on YouTube already.
01:26:30
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I think he released it in parts and then they kind of just compiled it here for this to kind of play together. But this one is just kind of very interesting personally did not know a whole lot about like their culture. But this one definitely takes a lot of stuff from like India, where there's like one of them that just jumps into a musical out of nowhere. And it was actually a lot of fun with what they do there, because that story actually is a ah little village where everybody is like either an artist or can sing. They just have some sort of talent. but There's a little girl who doesn't.
01:27:02
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And there is a group of butchers that live in the forest that if she doesn't know how to if she doesn't learn how to sing by the her eighth birthday, which is the next day, they are going to decide what to do to her. And but there's a lot of these stories here that they compile a lot of um the Muslim faith And then also kind of pagan ideas, I think kind of plays very well because there's one of the stories actually has a, a man who is married to a woman and they have a reoccurring theme here where every morning we're seeing this, his wife make him his coffee.
01:27:34
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And then he gets up, he's very rude to her, goes into his office to write. But we actually feel like that this guy actually might be something supernatural where he whispers into people's ears to tell them to do bad things. And we kind of see how this plays out. And there's really kind of just more to how these two are actually connected.
01:27:51
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And then the first story that I really kind of wanted to bring up when i actually was watching it is that we have these group of guys who are paid to desecrate a temple. And when they do this, every time that it comes to the hours that they're supposed to do their prayers, this entity comes after one of them and it ends up staging the deaths where to everybody outside, it looks like it's an accident.
01:28:16
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But when we actually see it is that something will happen that'll draw them to do something. And I'll just say the first one a guy's going to touch this girl that he had, we saw earlier, and then ends up sticking his fingers into like a light socket.
01:28:28
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So it's kind of stuff like that where they really kind of go brutal with the effects on that one. So that's one of the big things that never seen a movie from Bangladesh. And i mean, they're coming out pretty strong here with what they were showing there.
01:28:39
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Sounds like kind of like ah not not quite Final Destination, but kind of that level of overkill. Yep. Yep. We're kind of doing that. And there was another one that when I was writing my review, I can't think of what it kind of made me think of, but.
01:28:52
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Yeah, it's really playing with like, and I think it's great that they do this, is that we see what the victim sees, but then you're seeing it from like what and everybody else sees. and just kind of cool how playing with that type of reality and perception of reality.
01:29:08
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And then the last one I wanted to bring up is another one that this one is a Ecuador and United States co-production. And it's called Shaman, where we have these group of missionaries go to Ecuador and they are converting kind of the populace. There is a Catholic priest that's they're helping them.
01:29:28
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And this is a family where there is a husband who is a recovering drug addict. And then the mother is the one who's really kind of like spearheading what they're doing. And they have a teenage son and he ends up going into this cave that the local populace that does not follow Christianity wants everybody to avoid because there's an entity that lives in there. And if you kind of enter the cave,
01:29:50
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You break its seal and can get out. Now this kid ends up becoming possessed and the mother believes it is the local shaman and his followers that did something to her son. She doesn't believe.
01:30:02
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And her husband is more of just telling her like, Hey, he's sick. Like we need to get him help where she is convinced that something, you know, was fed to him. Something bad happened. The only issue that I have with this one is it kind of gets a little bit generic with a lot of possession films that you see.
01:30:16
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But I did find it quite interesting to kind of follow this religion that is more localized to this area. And where this cave actually is located is that there is a volcano nearby, which they make some for great exterior shots as they kind of show that kind of mountain like looming in the background there.
01:30:33
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But kind of was another one that I wanted to showcase just because of the fact that it's from another country that I've never seen

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01:30:39
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a movie from. So got to give a credit to this film festival for kind of expanding that type of horizon.
01:30:45
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Yeah, you definitely brought the international flavors in movies to us tonight. Yeah, that's awesome. Out of those, what is your top like if we see this title available, we need to watch it right away. what Which one would you recommend above them?
01:31:04
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Um, I would probably end up saying the one that really kind of stuck out to the most was that Dewey Shaw, the one from Bangladesh, just because of i and the, that, yeah, the anthology portion of it really kind of was cool. Cause it can't, it, I mean, it runs over two hours, but because they're broken up into segments, it doesn't feel like it.
01:31:23
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And there is a good flow to how the stories go together. And I think that sometimes is an issue for anthologies, but being that it's the same filmmaking team, It's more like creep show where it's like, okay, they know the vibe they're going for. And even like the more comedic one still fit.
01:31:37
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Okay. Awesome. Great stuff, David. Thank you. All right. Evan, you ready for your spotlight? Why not? ah All right. Evan, what have you, I have no idea what you have for us. What have you got for us, Evan?
01:31:53
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So what I've brought to you guys today is not technically horror movies, but what I've brought is horror video games and horror video game news. Everybody wants to get a little bit nerdy. And sometimes the way to get nerdy is by playing video games. We could watch movies all damn day long, but at the end of the day, sometimes you just got to shut your brain off and go to a whole nother place.
01:32:16
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And the way to do it is by playing some horror video games. It's the shit I love, and I'm sure everybody else can love, too. With that, some of these are games that that they've not been released.
01:32:31
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ah Some have been released. you know we've I've brought in Seven Days to Die. It's been updated with new types of things going on in it with extreme weather.
01:32:42
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ah Pretty much you're dying of heat, cold, radiation damage. If so, if you're kind of like... a I'd say like fallout kind of thing you'd like to see bad shit happen to you.
01:32:55
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That's what this is doing now. This is also a zombie game. So not only are you trying to survive the elements, you're also trying to survive past these zombies, which is a new inclusion was something called a plague spitter.
01:33:11
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And it was released actually today. Like the update was today. So you haven't got to know if I have not got to play it yet. I was I've been sitting here trying to write notes and stuff like that, just trying to put my brain to it.
01:33:29
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um But what I have been able to play recently is Phasmophobia. um I don't know if any of y'all know anything about that game. It is you ever felt like being a ghost hunter?
01:33:43
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or you like watching people hunt ghosts and you don't have to die. Well, yeah this is the perfect game for you. Uh, unfortunately you can die in the game, but you ain't going to die in real life. Uh, so with this is, it's an updated, uh, an updated game.
01:34:04
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Um, And it's it's got a nice little update, just makes things a lot harder. You know, you're gonna die regardless. as's I try to play as hard as I can and every time um I'm dead or I've got somebody else that I'm trying to kill and I just kind of am an asshole and leave them in the house.
01:34:23
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um But what I wanted to bring is that Blumhouse has now started making video games. I know this can be a little bit hard on some people.
01:34:37
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It's a good news or bad news. That's kind of what I was getting at was some people could be, you know, one way or the other on it. But, um, so Blumhouse is working with this new independent Spanish team, uh, Vermila studios to bring us something called Chris all theater of idols.
01:34:57
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It's a first-person horror survival game set in a demented version of Spain that's filled with monsters of modern folklore.
01:35:09
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You have to go through murderous marionettes and giant, ornately adorned skeletons that are hunting you through the dark streets in towering gothic buildings. So if you're looking for gothic, you're looking for dark Spanish type of feeling, this is it.
01:35:25
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What I think was kind of funny when I was, uh, I got to see a video about it was instead of trying to gain ammunition when you're playing game is you're actually taking blood from human humans and chickens.
01:35:42
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So, you know, you gotta sometimes Aqua Teen Hunger Force and arise that chicken.
01:35:49
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Um, to refuel your health bar as well as your guns but that will be out later this year on stream on ps5 xbox you know whatever uh next thing i had was eyes of hellfire which is also blumhouse as well um you base it's based on real irish legends of the society known as the hellfire club but you play in an abandoned gothic lodge
01:36:21
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I don't know too much about it. I've tried to watch a little bit about it, but really in reality, I too, too much to say really in reality. Uh, yeah, but you got early access on that in August, 2025.
01:36:37
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But what I did get excited about was a resident evil nine. We are back in, ah raccoon city after 30 Oh,
01:36:50
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return. Cool. I'm sorry. Yeah, Requiem. Yeah. Are you i saw i so I saw you Tim doing that? I didn't know if I needed to stop talking or yeah nine. I was holding up nine.
01:37:06
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Oh, was one i'm nice yeah. Yeah, it's Resident Evil nine Requiem, which is It was produce shown at the June 6th Summer Game Fest.
01:37:17
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um Unfortunately, the release date is going to be in February of 2026. That's a good thing, actually. absolutely that's ah That's a great thing, actually. We shouldn't be complaining about it being in 2026. Let them work on the game.
01:37:31
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The last couple were really good. does Just keep it rolling. That's a good thing. That is true. i do But I would like it a little bit quicker. But yeah, you're right. Work out all the bugs. Yeah.
01:37:43
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selfishly with this you but now you play as a new protagonist fbi agent grace ashcroft so i'm sorry to anybody who was a leon and ada fans from uh resident evil 4 and 2 we ain't getting it that way if you played the last two they set this up pretty heavily she's like the main character's daughter from the last game So I'm just kind of excited. She has kind of like powers and shit.
01:38:11
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um It's been a couple years since a Village came out, but she could do some stuff. So kind of curious how that's going to play in game. So kind of with you. I'm kind of excited for that. Well, with it, she's like I said, we're going back to Raccoon City, but she is investigating a series of strange deaths at a hotel where her mother died eight years prior to the game.
01:38:35
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And for those of you who are able to, the demo will be made available at the 2025 Gamescon convention in August.
01:38:46
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And that is pretty much all I've got on video games. It is possible that Leon might show up late in the game, but that'd be a real nice surprise if we could get it
01:39:02
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Awesome. I see a lot about horror video games. I've actually never played one. That's not. That's the way to go. If you if you not in my room, go for it.
01:39:13
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and
01:39:18
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Awesome. I love that you're highlighting that little corner of the horror ni

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01:39:22
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niche. So thank you for that, Evan. ah Thank you, Evan. Where can people find you? What do you what do you do? Tell tell us more about you.
01:39:31
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So I am ah co-host of the Kilt and the Redneck, me and my Scottish friend who lives in Scotland, of course, and I'm from Tennessee. So we just kind of bring our own views from across the world to talk to each other about different types of movies.
01:39:47
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um We don't just stick with horror all the time, but right now we're finishing out a what we would technically consider a horror month. um And from here, we just had so much fun with Planet Terror and all the goo and gore from that, that we said, you know what?
01:40:05
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Let's have a gore fest. Let's just go as many gore fest movies as we can. I wrote Aaron one night. I was like, you know what, Aaron? Oh, yeah. I'd love I'd love to have you on for a gore fest. And he's like, OK.
01:40:17
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Oh, yeah. I can't wait. This is this is the best, you know? But watching Planet Terror, we were like, man, that all that gore just makes us realize how much more that we are such gore hounds.
01:40:30
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Yes. You got to break you got to break the baba out now. Yeah. Blood. There you go. Put it on your list. Yes.
01:40:41
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Awesome. Great stuff over there. And we are on to our, uh, the crypt where we talk about physical media releases and the highlights from the month. GC is kicking us off GC. What have you got for us?
01:40:53
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What's up, guys? First of all, i want to say shout out to the comment section, man. It's been on fire all night. And as far as my co-panelists, mean, you guys are freaking awesome. All this stuff that you've been dropping, i am a little bitter because you guys are going cost me a lot of money.
01:41:10
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This hobby is already expensive enough, so, you know, damn it. But...
01:41:17
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But yeah, to to get this started, I selected a few films that I acquired for the month of June. Some of them are not new releases per se, but they still deserve to get a spotlight shined on them because they're absolutely phenomenal.
01:41:34
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um One of them that I want to start with. So this one kind of plays into our fears. This is not the typical horror movie that you would expect. This is actually based on true story.
01:41:46
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It's kind of a character study. And we're all familiar with with the typical fears that most of us have, right? Millions and millions of people have when it comes to going to the dentist, going into the ocean, sharks, you know, the dark.
01:42:00
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And just to name from a few, but this one in particular, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a lot of people watching this are gonna be able to relate. And this is Free Solo, The Fear of Heights.
01:42:14
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Let me, and again, the reason I say this, cause it's not your typical horror movie and I'm not the easiest person to scare, but let me tell you, like when I watched this,
01:42:26
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Man, i was white knuckling my couch the entire time. And I rock climb and I do extreme sports and stuff like that. and And the reason this is crazy is because Alex Honnold, this guy, he climbed over 3,200 feet without a rope.
01:42:45
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I'm talking about like almost three and a half hours, four hours of rock climbing on El Capitan in California and no parachute, no nothing. Like this guy just went straight up there. And if you haven't seen this, I mean, visually it's one of the most beautiful documentaries that I've ever seen.
01:43:04
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And one of the best character studies that I've ever seen. This was filmed and directed by Jimmy Chin and his wife, which are phenomenal. I mean, photographer. He's one of my photography idols.
01:43:16
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But this is on Disney Plus on 4K. So you're able to watch it on there. It's by National national Geographic. If you're looking for a physical copy, I actually got this one on eBay.
01:43:27
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ah This is a this is from the UK. So you do have you need region-free player to be able to watch it. but I highly recommend it. Even if you're not into this type of stuff, trust me like this, you're, my hands are sweating just thinking about it.
01:43:44
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And again, i I don't have a fear heights, but man, like I was just, my jaw was on the floor. ah So that's one of the first recommendations. That one's a non-traditional horror. It's more of the relatable, you know, nature's going to kill us type horror.
01:43:59
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Now the next one I got on the list. Do you see chiming Did you, Did I want, I'm sorry?
01:44:10
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Did you see the movie Fall? I think that's what it was called. So if you, I personally love that movie just because of the whole i height aspect and the whole climbing aspect. But if that movie made you a bit uncomfortable with heights, just brace yourself.
01:44:23
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yeah Because it makes that movie look like a walk in the park. but Yeah. No, yeah. It's, this is, and the fact that's based on true story. Oh, it's real. It's so intense. Yeah. Yeah.
01:44:34
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Good shout there. um And so for the next one, this one is a bit older. um I'm sure some of you guys have heard of it at least. And just I want to put the situation. Imagine you wake up one day, you're wearing this psych type of jumpsuit.
01:44:52
Speaker
You don't remember who you are. And you're looking around and and you're in this room. There's nothing in there whatsoever. And then you see these doors, right? they These kind of latches.
01:45:02
Speaker
You go through this latch, you go through this door, and you end up in another room. Again, nothing around. Completely sterile. But you find somebody else. You get to talk to them. They don't know who they are as well.
01:45:15
Speaker
You try to work your way through this kind of maze only to find that there's death traps all over the place. Every time you walk in the room, either incinerated acid works. And that is one of the cube movies that I'd be able to acquire. And this is cube zero.
01:45:31
Speaker
So say that sounds like cube you're describing. I was waiting to one. cube. Such a mind blower. And cube two was pretty good too. but Let me tell you that, which is Hypercube. And let me tell you guys, it's so crazy to be able to get a hold of these movies. They have not gotten the boutique treatment like they should.
01:45:51
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um i know the second one is still on DVD. The first one is a UK release, if I'm not mistaken. And then this one I got from Turbine. And I actually ordered this online and I got it used.
01:46:05
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This is like a media book. But let me tell you guys, especially for the book fans out there, because this is something that is just, I mean, as you're looking at the art and then it's absolutely stunning. So you have, right. that That's the DVD. It comes with the DVD and it comes with the Blu-ray, but there go. And this is a German release by the way, but just to kind of, I mean,
01:46:32
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It's all in German, so I'm going to have to use Google Translate to read it. seems like Germany always gets some of the best releases, man. Like we just covered Necronomicon over on Movie Dumpster, and you can only get the German release of that. Like Ghoulies 3 for the longest time. It's now coming to America, but it was only Germany. and it was It was a beautiful disc, but it just made me think of that. It looks awesome.
01:46:53
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No, it is, man. i agree with you, Germany. I mean, I'm jealous. They're getting some, Australia, Germany, they're getting some of the best stuff. I mean, like stuff like this, you'll have like some of the names in English, but everything else is just, I mean, i hierogic hieroglyphics to me.
01:47:07
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But I still recommend it just because, again, we have apps like Google Translate. So you just put the phone over it, take a picture, and you're still able to read it. And I mean, for right now, this is the only way to get this Blu-ray.
01:47:20
Speaker
and highly highly recommend it if you're into those type of movies i know i sure am that's it's a great way to get them all together yes absolutely yeah if now for my next one i don't know if i have any criterion fans out there but if i do i mean let's rejoice on this 50 off sale for the month that just started on friday um but it's also mourn for our wallets and our finances Now, i picked I have two on my list here that I'm going highly recommend.
01:47:53
Speaker
And one of them is a 4K of this beautiful, beautiful movie that, again, it is not natively in English, but it has subtitles. It's black and white. And i mean...
01:48:05
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the seventh seal. yeah maybe If you have not seen this movie, I mean, this is an absolute masterpiece. And ah just to give a bit of a premise of the film, um this takes place back in the Crusades during the medieval Sweden, ah during the plague.
01:48:21
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And there's a knight that he comes face to face with with a hooded figure, which is death. So he challenged and challenges him to a game of chess. And this guy is pretty much like he's trying to cheat death.
01:48:34
Speaker
And throughout the whole film, it's just this beautiful like scenic masterpiece with again beautiful black and white choreography like everything is just amazing and it's just dialogue and it's it's one of those movies that afterwards it really um stays with you it really makes you think because it's i mean you're kind of the no It's not so much of horror, but it's more of dealing with, again, our mortality and like life's meanings. like like What is everything really about? And make sometimes making hard decisions, like in this film, he has to make.
01:49:09
Speaker
But highly recommend this movie. And if you're able to get it on 4K, it's one of those when it comes to black and white and these type of older films, which this is... The second oldest film I've ever seen, this is from 1957. 97 minutes, it's in Swedish, but again, English subtitles, so it's very easy to follow.
01:49:29
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um It's not so much heavy dialogue, but still enough where it's it's kind of like if you enjoy Parasite, less dialogue, but more um more cinematic and more landscape and stuff like that.
01:49:45
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Now, we're moving on, and Man, I'm going to save these two for last. These are phenomenal. ah This movie in particular, I'm a big, ah not just horror fan, but history fan as well.
01:49:57
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So when you're able to blend horror, history, and found footage, I mean, I'm in. Like, I am a suck for it. So this movie in particular, I know...
01:50:08
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ready Oh, okay. Perfect. thoughm I'm sure I'll have some fans of the movie here. But if not, I'm hoping you will become fans because this movie doesn't have the biggest cult following.
01:50:19
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Not many people talk about it. So this month, I'm actually doing a podcast episode on it with one of buddies. And this is As Above, So Below. and man this movie is absolutely stunning um it takes place in the catacombs underneath paris and one of the things about this movie it's um that that i absolutely love is for the fact that it has it talks about alchemy so um if you've ever read the book the alchemist
01:50:53
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And you've enjoyed a book like that. It has to do with alchemy. But it also has to do with two particular books. By a writer named Dante Alighieri.
01:51:04
Speaker
And it is The Inferno. And it's The Divine Comedy. And sorry it's not... Oh, there we go. And that is my co-host, Bodhi, by the way. Nice.
01:51:14
Speaker
But yeah, so so this movie takes place ah where these these people, they're trying to up they're pretty much trying to find the Alchemist Stone, right? They're historians, and and they they find like this hidden map behind this old painting, old historic painting. So they find this map, and they figure, OK, we got to get under to the catacombs to be able to find it.
01:51:35
Speaker
Little do they know that they end up going into the depths of hell. to the nine circles of hell and man i mean highly recommended if you haven't seen it i mean please do and if you've already seen it and you were kind of on the fence on it rewatch it because there's a lot that you miss and this is a movie again that it really makes you think makes you think about the decisions we make and creepy as hell here yeah And I mean, the special features, I got this release in particular ah because the features, I mean, they're shooting underground interviews with the photography and the director inside above so below to hell and back.
01:52:13
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And I'm a big like special features type of guy and booklet guy. And when it comes to stuff like this, highly recommend it. This is released by VIA Vision. and this one's on blu-ray i don't think it's on 4k anytime soon either and though i wish they did make it on 4k but yeah another highly recommendation got two more so at any time tim if you need to stop me please do because i will keep rambling now i lost track of when you started so okay good good
01:52:49
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Good, man. ah Now, the next recommendation that I have, it might not be for everybody, but again, this is another Criterion release. And I do know that, David, you're going to appreciate this one.
01:53:01
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i think you I think you know which one I'm talking about. too Guys, I cannot praise this release enough. um If you haven't seen this movie, it's on HBO. You'll be able to stream it.
01:53:12
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um I do recommend, if you're horror fans, It's just going going blind. I mean, honestly, 20 bucks for this movie and Vampyr.
01:53:25
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This movie is from 1932 and it's kind of like, um it's almost like a silent film. It's in German with English subtitles, but it almost feels like a silent film um just because it's so atmospheric and so visually stunning that it kind of just speaks for itself. And this is again, ah obviously if, spoiler alert, it's a vampire movie.
01:53:51
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This movie was not, unfortunately, there is no 4K, but it is a Blu-ray that is, a again, stunning by Criterion. They did an amazing, amazing release with this. And one of the things that I'll say about this, out of all Criterion's releases, it comes with a chunky book, which it has the the right, again, for my literary fans, my reading fans, like this is just, oh,
01:54:19
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like stunning and then it's kind of like little digipack itself which is obviously i mean look at that if anybody's a fan of black and white photography yeah that's cool like it's so good that i had my dog just licking the box now and i'm like bloody no um yes every okay so we have some fans ah said guys skyrocketed after that There we go.
01:54:43
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And ah yeah, we got the disc. And then we have another booklet, which is, again, it's more writing and it's kind of some photography, but it's also essays based on the film.
01:54:54
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And guys, I i mean, if i if out of it's going to be hard to pick any of the movies that I've recommended so far, but this is one that, again, if you have 20 bucks that your you know you could just forget about and throw at one of these,
01:55:09
Speaker
I don't think you'll regret it. I mean, again, it's such a beautiful collector's item and it's it inspired. Every time I've seen this, it's inspired my photography in so many levels and also my videography.
01:55:22
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Now, last but not least, this is my absolute favorite release by Vinegar Syndrome to date. Like none of the releases will top this for me personally.
01:55:37
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Empty my wallet. I'm sorry. Trust me. You'll thank me, though. I know it's going to be tough, but it's going to a tough month, but we'll get through it. um Enter the void. Yeah. if If you have not seen this masterpiece, I mean, like, come on.
01:55:56
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bank package the The amount of detail that went into this packaging is just, I mean... just visually stunning. I know Arrow did a release on this film, but I mean, it it does not do it justice compared to like the love that went into this release by vinegar syndrome is just incredible.
01:56:18
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um And I'm just showcasing this for a second and then I'm going to definitely get into a little bit of this film.
01:56:25
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But here I'll put this down and then we got the booklet.
01:56:31
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which they did something pretty funky and pretty cool, which all the pages are different colors. Let's see if I could. Oh, there we go. That's cool. Yeah, it's and yeah, I mean, if this. The graphic design on that has me feeling like an amateur. No, dude, I mean, again, like I've never so um I've never seen something absolutely so stunning.
01:56:54
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And when I saw it online, I just it did not do it justice. I could not believe what I was looking at. um now this film it i remember seeing it for the first time on netflix and this was back in the day let me see here if i could pull up really quick the year that this came out this was a 2009 release by ifc films and i remember going into it blind i'd never seen the trailer for it and i was just like enter the void and this is all i saw the poster on netflix um but plain it wasn't even shiny and holographic where i was like oh it's shiny what is this
01:57:28
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And I started watching this and it's by Gaspar Noe. Never seen any of his films and man, like what a rollercoaster.
01:57:40
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um This film, it takes place in Tokyo in the club, like kind of like the neon club scene. So, I mean, again, you're already expecting some beautiful aesthetics, beautiful filming and it's It has to do with a Tibetan belief, the Tibetan book of the living and the dying, or that pretty much the Tibetan book of the dead.
01:58:01
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ah Their belief is that when you die, your soul wanders for 30 days, pretty much trying to check on your loved ones, trying to you know finish anything any anything you left unfinished.
01:58:14
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Now, this this film itself follows, let me see here if I can remember his name. It's been a bit since I've seen it, but it says it follows nat Nathaniel Brown, which is pretty much a gentleman. If you do see the trailer for this film, I mean, it's not going to be a spoiler or anything, but there's a moment a critical moment that happens where he ends up finding himself within those 30 days.
01:58:35
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And within the 30 days of his death, I mean, again, it is just so much happens that even the end, you're not going to expect. But as you're watching this movie, it's one of those you might have to watch it twice because there's so much that happens, even probably three times, that you miss.
01:58:55
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And it really makes you go into this introspective, kind of like you're sitting there for a week afterwards, really questioning. our existence our lives like what else is out there like it's such a beautiful piece um it does also talk about um the spirit molecule which is dmt and it's um it's a

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01:59:20
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not too big part of the film but it is in the in the beginning so that if that's something that interests you that type of science and research that's pretty cool i mean it's going to be in here a bit and i mean it's loaded with extra features which talks about that as well but i mean guys if this is a type of movie it's a bit long i think it's about 155 minutes for the director's cut and 143 minutes for the regular cut but if you have like a good like rainy night
01:59:50
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and you're just kind of feeling very introspective and you have energy, like watch this film. Because this is kind of one of those you got to be in the mood for it just because of the dialogue and all that good stuff.
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um But yeah, those are my recommendations. If you enjoyed any of these, make sure to follow me on Instagram at face the movies.
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um You could also follow me on my YouTube channel. i I have some eclectic type videos. I could do either an unboxing one day. or kind of make a top five list of movies that are going to just really make you sit there and and think about life or kind of scare the crap out of you or make you laugh.
02:00:30
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So um I'm a little bit all over the place with that. I do a lot live streams. I actually have one coming up tomorrow to celebrate the new release of Jurassic Park. So yeah, yeah we're going to be talking about, i have some, uh, two guests on and we're going to be talking about the original. going to taking you guys back to the original Jurassic park, spared no expense.
02:00:52
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And, um, it's going to be fun. Uh, the series is called a cinema rewind where I do that usually once every two weeks to a month. I know I have Aaron that's going to be on a guest. One of my upcoming episodes, which is going to be great.
02:01:05
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I can't wait to, I'm so excited to have you on, man. and Cool. But yeah, I mean, so guys, you can follow me on there and I have a podcast, which is Friday night, Friday night. You could find me on Spotify and Apple podcast.
02:01:19
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But yeah, thank you so much for having me. i hope you guys and appreciate, enjoy the show and tell. And yeah. Yeah. So glad you came back after your quick jump in on the previous episode.
02:01:32
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And if you follow GCF Face of Movies on Instagram, He mentioned he does some photography and stuff. And some of the photos you set up to highlight your special editions and box sets or whatever are just stunning in themselves.
02:01:50
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Excellent work, man. I love it. Dude, it's funny because I just had a friend recently asked me, he's like, oh, dude, like, what do you do with these photos? And I'm like, what do you mean i just take them. And he's like yeah, but how do you set up the backdrop? of Like, are you Photoshopping and stuff? I'm like, no, I just, I, like one of the pictures I took in my fridge and he was like, what? He was like, are you serious? was yeah, it's all about lighting. That's what I always tell people. It's always about lighting.
02:02:12
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You take care of the lighting and the picture will take care of itself. You know, that's funny because I was thinking that usually on our show, well, right now I'm in a frigging room. It's dark as anything, as you could notice, anyone watching this.
02:02:24
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But on our show, I 100% agree with you, JC. JC, Jesus, excuse me. JC, good Lord. It's been a long episode. But yeah, the lighting, Joe, my co-host, we do it all. We call it the video dungeon, just as basement.
02:02:37
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But like lighting, it really does make everything. Lighting and audio is always kind of key. ah that That would be my advice that no one asked for. yeah Lighting and audio. yeah look at all the stuff random lights that i have i think my jason mass died on me like i had like a moon back here somewhere that died but yeah it really sets the mood man and sean i love like how you have it all dark and everything because i just wish at some point like i just saw like two red eyes come up out of nowhere oh no jody oh no i am not sleeping at all tonight thank you that would be amazing man
02:03:11
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All And GC, you brought a friend with you, a buddy to tonight's episode. We have Q, the movie collector Q. Welcome. Hey everyone. as How's everyone doing today? Um, I'm glad you guys had me on. Um, I've got a few titles, but I must say this has been like one of those months where I've barely been home, but, um, I was able to check out one of these titles I'm going to show and I'm go talk about it as being one of my favorites.
02:03:39
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Um, And one of those is a movie that's called it's by it's from Shudder and it's from it was one of ah vinegar syndromes releases and it's called Sissy. I if you guys remember. a this i um went into it completely blind. um And I have this thing about when I watch, when I purchase any Vinegar Syndrome titles, I watch the trailers first. And to my left, I've got a whole shelf of Vinegar Syndrome.
02:04:12
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And every single movie I've watched based off watching trailers have been golden. I don't have a single bad title. So this movie was no exception to that. So, um and C.S.E. follows, um,
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ah um A girl who's a heavy social media influencer. um And she ends up meeting an old old childhood friend that she wants her to tag along with her for a weekend getaway to celebrate her wedding.
02:04:45
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um They get there and they meet some other old friends that that kind of rekindle some bad memories. um And you find out the main character, her name's Cecilia, you find out why she's called Sissy.
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um But one of the things that took me by a major surprise was the amount of gore that was in this movie I did not see it coming whatsoever and when it happens, it's very unexpected um But I highly recommend anyone that's into Shuttle releases.
02:05:23
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This is one. I would definitely recommend which is a sissy and um Then these other ones I'm just going to talk about just briefly because I haven't had a chance to check them out. um But one literally just showed up on my doorstep as I was coming in setting up for the day.
02:05:39
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And um this one is actually from Terror Vision. It's actually one of their, I think it's their first box set of movies that they released. And it's a set of movies in their set called Shoestring Slashers.
02:05:55
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There's a movie here called Beware, Basement Jack, and Phantom Brother. um Always love what TerraVision puts out. I think a few months back they brought back Rumpelstiltskin.
02:06:10
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Uncle Rumpel's on his way, guys. Yeah. Yeah. So, um but yeah, I've always liked what they put out. And earlier, someone mentioned w n u the WNUF films, which I'm excited check out that one film that he was talking about. But I've got those as well. So, TerraVision be putting out some classics. So, I'm excited to check this one out.
02:06:37
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Yeah, I think the idea behind that, Shoestream Slaster, I didn't get that one. i believe Joe, he's not here to set to confirm, but I think he picked that up. But I think they're gonna be trying to do that like on the regular cause I think it sold pretty well. Yeah, I hope they do, man. I really hope they do enough of them. I'm super excited to check this out. One thing about with with my collecting habits is that it gives me a chance to um watch movies that I've never watched before or even heard of. Just, you know, things that are kind of classics to everyone else but unknown to myself.
02:07:10
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So this is just one of those box sets that I'm super excited to check out. blind um Even if the movies are horrible, it's a fantastic box. The artwork's unreal. And I think Lynn Lowry is in one of those films.
02:07:24
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Basement Jack, maybe. I haven't watched any of them yet, but yeah. Yeah, so Basement Jack years ago, she had Lynn Lowry's in that one. is that area okay And um the next one that I got in was a part of ah vinegar syndromes Halfway to Black Friday sale And I think this was this the yeah, this was one of the mystery titles um I've heard about this movie for years never seen it and it's ah less scared Jessica to death oh um
02:07:56
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I'm excited to check this one out just because of all the things I've heard about it. Um, and This is definitely a a blind watch for me, but everyone tells me it's great. So I'm excited to check that out and then last but not least um I'm a big fan of um like the HP Lovecraft movies um So this one that popped up on my radar that picked up I didn't even know until I got it in my door and like I took the package off. I was like, oh, OK, well, it makes sense because it's got Jeffrey Combs and um um gosh, what is her name? Barbara Crampton in it. And ah that's a one on one on one films release of Castle Freak.
02:08:37
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yeah I would say it's a Castle Freak reanimator. beyond from beyond cast hu Yeah, yeah. I work on that. It's beautiful. can you hold it up again?
02:08:47
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Yeah. Yeah. So one of the many movies where Jeffrey Combs finds the Necronomicon. And the pat in as well the packaging is really nice and I really love what oneon one on one films does with their packaging. It's awesome. Yeah, they're so good. Nice. And nice booklet and all that stuff. said you haven't seen that one?
02:09:09
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No, I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Be in for a treat. Make sure you don't have any- ah Well, i was gonna say maybe you don't have a friend in the room, but maybe that might enhance the yeah the movie story. Yeah.
02:09:23
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i sorry And um oh, I got one one more one more. um And this one. And just for the record, I don't get out to go to the the movies that often. And I should.
02:09:36
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um But when this one came out this year, I saw people raving about it. So I also picked up the monkey. oh Yeah, dude. You know, it's funny. It's fun watch.
02:09:48
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A movie dumpster. We don't do a ton of new movies. We do a lot of those like Forgotten Gems and the classics. Well, classics to us, maybe not to the general public. Like Munchy, of course. But we reviewed that.
02:10:00
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I love The Monkey, but my co-host, he had read the original story. And I guess he he really liked the original story. and He didn't like what they did with the movie. And he really didn't like it. So it was kind of an interesting conversation, and kind of both on other ends. but i highly recommend it i thought it was a trip man i can't wait to watch it jonathan and i did an episode on the monkey when it came out it was it was a blast it was a funny movie it was a good time it was a good time one of the most fun movies of the year yeah it is and we also did an episode of castle freak too oh no yeah we did was gonna say it's got cory from ah halloween kills or ends if that does anything for you
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Oh, okay.
02:10:38
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Q, was that your last one? Yeah, that was my last one. That was my last one. Tell people where they can find you all the good stuff. All right, well, you guys, you can follow follow me on ah YouTube. I do 4K. I do mainly reviews on 4K releases, but I also do releases on Blu-rays as well at Q, the Movie Collector. And you can also follow follow me on Instagram where um every now and then I'll go live on Instagram um and I'll post pictures and stuff. Not nearly as nice as GC's pictures, but I post some pictures. Hey, hey, hey. Listen, guys. Listen, like, if you take anything from tonight, make sure not only to follow everybody and subscribe to everybody on here, but Q, i mean, dude, q is just, like, he is always, like, I'm always just sitting here and I'm like, I feel like ah like a lazy freaking slice of crap because...
02:11:31
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I'm like, you're trying to pump out videos and stuff, but Q is just constant. I'm like, dude, I don't know how he does it. Like, I don't know. This guy's always making good, amazing content. And I'm going to be having Q on a few live streams too. I've already had him before on our final destination one, but please go follow him and give this dude some love. He's amazing. he's one of my buddies.
02:11:50
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Thanks, GC. All right. And i Movie Dumpster, Sean, I want to put you on the spot if I can, because q brought up something very related to what you guys are doing right now.
02:12:08
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So if you want to play, like it premiered 17 minutes ago. oh Oh, yeah. we're we Actually, I think I mentioned it already. Necronomicon, which is an H.P. Lovecraft anthology directed by, oh, God, I forget who exactly is all involved. But Brian used it kind of headed the whole thing.
02:12:24
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Very not well known. it wasn't even released in theaters in America. But it is one of the ones you could get the German Blu-ray. I highly recommend it. It's an unbelievable anthology. And then you add H.P. Lovecraft's mythology to that.
02:12:36
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Say what you will about the man, but his stories are very interesting. And we're kind of doing a series of Lovecraft movies. we We just covered the Dunwich Horror from the 70s, which is a big departure from that story, but the movie's interesting.
02:12:50
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And then we're going to be doing a kind of double episode ah to kind of round round out the theme on the unnameable one and two kind of a double feature episode. So yeah, HP Lovecraft, we're kind of deep in the shit of Lovecraft right now.
02:13:04
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And then we're actually going to be jumping into some so more stuff that's, not that this stuff isn't our speed, but stuff we're going into like Mutant Hunt after this and Karnasaur we're going to be hitting up in July. So that's kind of the kind of stuff we're usually tackling over a movie dumpster.
02:13:19
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Yeah. Yeah. Awesome, awesome stuff. Get over there and check out their summer of HP Lovecraft going on right now. So like what episode dropping right now, actually. So check that out.
02:13:34
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Yeah, were wherever wherever you your podcast, but we also do premiered on YouTube where if you guys ever have seen that, you can kind of put your video up and have like a live chat with people and just kind of fun thing to do with the fans.
02:13:45
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And yeah, you can check out the full episodes. audio or video, whatever your preference is over on movie dumpster podcast.com or over on YouTube.
02:13:54
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It's great stuff. So that's a wrap on episode two of the dread broadcast a massive thank you to everyone.
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who tuned in live, the chat was lit tonight and the best way, it was awesome. Or if you're just watching the replay, thank you. So whether you came for the reviews, the recommendations, the books, the physical media hall, we're glad you are here.
02:14:22
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To our incredible guest, Jessica Lacy, thank you. Thank you for having me. And thank you for always being one of my biggest like fans and supporters. You've been, Tim, you have been like screaming about me from the rooftop forever.
02:14:39
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Kelsey did the same thing. And then Sean, and it's just been, my face is not up here cause I have trouble like talking about these books and, and if I had to show my face and and and I can't can't handle it, but you guys have like drawn me out and forced me to participate. It's been one of the greatest things ever. So thank you so much for everything.
02:15:04
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That's why we I gathered them here for this to be here before to support you because I know we all love what you do. So I'm just hoping that through this, some other people on this panel, some people watching buy a book, read Jessica's tastes like candy coming out soon. It's worth it. Yeah. Number nine.
02:15:29
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Awesome. So to our panel, David, Journey with the Cinephile, thank you. Thank you. Sean, the Horror Vision, Sean, thank you for coming out tonight.
02:15:40
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Thank you. Movie Dumpster, Sean. Thanks, guys. Yep, we got Aaron again. always Aaron's going to miss next month, but I know he's already coming back. I'll be back.
02:15:54
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Thank you for having me. That was a blast. Kelsey, great addition tonight. I love the book recommendations. More people need to talk about, more movie people need to read horror books. I agree.
02:16:06
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I agree. That's why you're here. Thank you so much. Yeah, i mean, Give it a chance, guys. You might not think you like to read, but just try it. Try it. Not to bash King again, but just try something else. There's other people out there. Why did you ever rise? I mean, she's got great book.
02:16:24
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well But thank you for having me. And thank you to my peeps in the chat. You guys. so They were awesome. Thank you. They were awesome. Evan with the horror video games, a new corner for the show. Great stuff there.
02:16:38
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ah Thank you for having me. ah Sorry I went so quick.
02:16:44
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thats I'm not going to make that joke. you sweet I was about to, so. We were all thinking. thanks for returning.
02:16:56
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Dude, thank you for having me back, man. This time I actually was able to prepare, which was nice. And I just got to point out, Sean, dude, i'm like so I saw you from the corner of my eye and your screen was completely black. And I just saw you like Nosferatu just like emerge from the darkness.
02:17:11
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And I'm like what like, what the hell just happened? You know, it's funny, I was kinda going through the little document that Tim sent over and I was like, he's like specifically, don't sit in front of a window. I'm like, okay, well how am I gonna fix this? There's no lamp in this room, I just moved. But I'm glad I got some so my laughs out of my own in ineptitude. Collect a hi, make a hi-nie-ho.
02:17:35
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You're a total zombie right now, I'm sorry. I've been trying not to say that for like 20 minutes. That email was pre-generated by our platform. you I mean, it was good advice. I just couldn't take it. I was was like, ah, shit.
02:17:54
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And cue your first time on here cue great job Thank you so much for being available being present and doing this with us tonight awesome Anytime man, I appreciate it. Just want to throw this out there. I've got a review drop in here in the next few days It's gonna be my first big giveaway and here's a clue It involves an HP Lovecraft movie.
02:18:17
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That's a limited edition 4K of that HP Lovecraft movie. So stay tuned. We didn't know, but June was the month of hp Lovecraft for us tonight. oh Great stuff. You all brought something special tonight.
02:18:33
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Thank you for sharing your passion with us and giving horror fans even more to obsess over and empty their wallets over. Yeah. And to our viewers, if someone on this panel brought the heat tonight, let them know.
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02:19:07
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Episode three drops July 31st. And yes, we've already got a special guest lined up, a producer of some independent horror movies who is currently waist deep in production of a found footage horror movie.
02:19:23
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So hit the bell on YouTube. Follow us on Instagram. Tell your favorite horror creator to come join the table. ah Jonathan joined us. So <unk> and doggie disaster to take care of my pupper got sick.
02:19:39
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So I had to do some cleaning. Oh, man. That's that's the worst news. Dude. Oh, man. I um just walked in the apartment. I was like oh what's that smell? Oh, Jesus. Oh, no. Well, I'm Tim and I'm Jonathan.
02:19:52
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Yeah. And on behalf of us over at the dread broadcast, stay spooky and we will see you all next time.